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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, the biggest brand in the league, there's

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Speaker 1: it's a polarizing conversation. Been following the podcast YouTube content

428
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Speaker 1: for a couple of years now, always love your stuff.

429
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Speaker 1: When you brought up Kelsey a little bit of a

430
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Speaker 1: decline from its prime years as a tight end, I

431
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Speaker 1: don't get why people got so bad, And for those

432
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Speaker 1: of you that don't know, it kind of went viral

433
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Speaker 1: because the Daily Mail picked up a line that I

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Speaker 1: gave Coward about that I think he's getting old and listen,

435
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Speaker 1: I'm a Kelsey fan, but people were like saying I

436
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Speaker 1: crushed him. I said, I think he's a little old.

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Speaker 1: You know, he used to be an a plus player

438
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Speaker 1: and now he's like a B plus and every chief,

439
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what the podcast or YouTube show,

440
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Speaker 1: everyone's picking up Jason Dunn, a guy that I always

441
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Speaker 1: used to like as a player and I still do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was the blocking tight end for Tony

443
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Speaker 1: Gonzalez was shitting on me, which you know, you know part,

444
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Speaker 1: it's just part of the deal playing in this lane.

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Speaker 1: But people thought, I think Jason kel or Travis Kelsey's

446
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Speaker 1: not any good anymore, which is not true most athletes,

447
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Speaker 1: especially if football started declining in the mid thirties, So

448
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Speaker 1: it just shouldn't be that shocking to folks. Just wanted

449
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Speaker 1: to back you on that one. My question is, if

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Speaker 1: it is your call, how would you go about rebuilding

451
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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. It's clearly an operation in need

452
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Speaker 1: of restructuring given how bad the football team has been.

453
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Speaker 1: Feel free to speculate. Well, obviously, the first order of

454
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Speaker 1: business is to separate from the coach. It's just time.

455
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Speaker 1: It just is. He's been there twenty five years. It's

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Speaker 1: over and there's nothing wrong with that. Things end. The

457
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Speaker 1: majority of things in life, right, The overwhelming majority percentage

458
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Speaker 1: of people that like are happily married till their dying

459
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Speaker 1: day is small. Most things come to an end. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: that turns out to be me. Hopefully, if you're listening,

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Speaker 1: that turns out to be you. But most things, whether

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Speaker 1: it's business, whether it's our personal relationships, just end. You know,

463
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Speaker 1: obviously you want them to go on forever. That's just

464
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Speaker 1: not reality. So this thing with Belichick is over, then

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Speaker 1: I think you need to ask yourself because the Patriots

466
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Speaker 1: have not had a general manager the entire time with Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Scott Pioli was not the GM. Nick Cassario is not

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Speaker 1: the GM. They had a lot of influence. Bill picked

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Speaker 1: the players. So if you're gonna fire Bill, and even

470
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna elevate Jrod Mayo to be your next coach,

471
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Speaker 1: who is going to pick the players because the coach cannot.

472
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Speaker 1: The coach obviously has a lot of influence, but he

473
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Speaker 1: has to have a personnel guy that he can lean on.

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll leans on John Schneider. It's ultimately his call.

475
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Speaker 1: He makes more money than John, but he John's proven

476
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Speaker 1: himself to I don't know know what he's doing, so

477
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Speaker 1: guess what he listens to him? Andy Reid won two

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls in the last five years. Brett Viach picks

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Speaker 1: the players. Why he trusts him, He knows it's too

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Speaker 1: much energy to do, and it makes everyone's job easier

481
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Speaker 1: if we all have a specific role, no different than

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Speaker 1: as a player. They don't ask Patrick Mahomes to make tackles.

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Speaker 1: And listen, Bill's gotten away with it for a long

484
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Speaker 1: time because he had Tom Brady. You remove Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: We see most of his picksuck. He's a really good

486
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, but he can't pick the players, and you

487
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Speaker 1: need to figure out a GM now, I do think

488
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Speaker 1: before you just elevate Gerrod Mayo, are you sure that

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Speaker 1: we don't need outside council? We don't need to start

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Speaker 1: from scratch right, And that would be the question that

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Speaker 1: only check or excuse me Crafts can answer, because all

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Speaker 1: indications show that they are going to hire mount Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know enough about them besides

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Speaker 1: like as a player, and he obviously he's been an

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Speaker 1: assistant for Bill for a while. But it's a tough decision.

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Speaker 1: I think the hardest part about the restructure is how

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Speaker 1: you break up, because breakups are not easy. Breaks is

498
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Speaker 1: very easy. If you've talked to you know been dating

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Speaker 1: a girl for two months. It's like whatever, I'm I'm

500
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Speaker 1: not that interested, right, this is not working out. Breaks

501
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Speaker 1: are tough when you've been in a relationship with someone

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Speaker 1: twenty five years. Personally, professionally, it's gonna get weird. It's

503
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Speaker 1: gonna get there's pride, there's ego, there's sweat equity, there's

504
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Speaker 1: time equity. It's just gonna be very complicated. And to me,

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Speaker 1: before we even get into who's next, how is this

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Speaker 1: divorce gonna happen? Are they Is Bill gonna go fuck

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Speaker 1: you fire me, I'm not gonna be here? Or is

508
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Speaker 1: it gonna be like a mutual breakup? Is it gonna

509
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Speaker 1: be like Bill, where would you like to go? Somewhere else?

510
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: Will trade you to me? That's one of the most

511
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Speaker 1: fascinating non playoff stories of the entire NFL. How do

512
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Speaker 1: the Crafts break up with Bill Belichick? How does Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick break up with the Crafts? I would say the

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Speaker 1: Crafts are more likely to be cutthroat than Bill is.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think Bill's gonna tap out. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Bill is gonna be cool with like, eh, I'm

517
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Speaker 1: just I'm just retiring, or just like I'm cool with

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Speaker 1: coaching somewhere else, and I think he is gonna be

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Speaker 1: cool with someone coaching somewhere else. But I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be start with when Robert and Jonathan tell him

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Speaker 1: he's no longer welcome as their head coach. Too old,

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Speaker 1: too rich to just for it to be smooth. As

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Speaker 1: anyone who's known any older person with some coin in

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Speaker 1: the bank. And I'm not talking Belichick level coin. I'm

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Speaker 1: just talking, Hey, this guy made some millions, you know,

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Speaker 1: with his as a construction guy, owned a construction company,

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Speaker 1: and he's really successful, and he's you know, he's worth

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars. That guy is usually not open to

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Speaker 1: ideas at seventy three years old. You're talking Belichick, who's

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Speaker 1: is accomplished, as he's accomplished and been making i don't know,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five million dollars for the last decade, you

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Speaker 1: think he's just gonna be like, oh yeah, we'll just

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Speaker 1: go our several ways. It's not the way those humans

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Speaker 1: are wired. I've been around a few, uh not with

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Speaker 1: probably the money Bill is, you know, making in terms

536
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Speaker 1: of a salary, but very very successful businessmen. It usually

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Speaker 1: gets ugly at the end if they have to pivot

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Speaker 1: and they just can't retire off in the sunset, and

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Speaker 1: that's what coaches usually don't just tap out. No, definitely

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Speaker 1: not someone like Bill. AFC quarterbacks are really freaking loaded.

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Speaker 1: Top guys all seem to be young with a long

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Speaker 1: runway left. If you're a GM starting a franchise, how

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Speaker 1: would you rank the AFC quarterbacks on your draft board?

544
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Speaker 1: One to five, age, injury history, demeanor, talent, everything included

545
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Speaker 1: big Texans fans. I'm hoping you would pick CJ. Over

546
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I one hundred percent would I would go Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I would go The injuries make me nervous, but I

548
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Speaker 1: do think that Burrow is a more consistent player than Allen.

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Speaker 1: But the injuries are a factor. I would still I

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Speaker 1: would guess. I would just hope it's a lot like

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Speaker 1: like Kevin Durant when he got injured early, he just

552
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Speaker 1: kind of like, I'm still betting on the guy. So

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Speaker 1: I would go Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen, Herbert, c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 1: I would take definitely CJ. Stroud over Trevor Lawrence. Whin

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Speaker 1: he factored in just the contract as well, But I

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Speaker 1: think the top guys. I think that top three the

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Speaker 1: only thing that can chatter that as injuries, Like look

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Speaker 1: at Josh Josh Allens, what he did the other night

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Speaker 1: against the Eagles, Like who else? I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if Mahomes has that in the bag right now. Like

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's high end is the highest, doesn't mean he's

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Speaker 1: the best player, right Like Giannis when he's playing defense

563
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Speaker 1: and doing the whole thing, is his best is probably

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Speaker 1: the best. Like this guy could score forty and be

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Speaker 1: the best defensive player in the league on a given night. Now,

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Speaker 1: is you catch a better player like all around? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's not a very good defensive player. So I think, listen,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is going to be number one until he's not.

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Speaker 1: But I think Burrow that game bro had against the Niners,

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks before he got injured,

571
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Speaker 1: was like Jesus christis guy's good? Am? I crazier? Does

572
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Speaker 1: everyone give Michigan Ohio State too much credit? Their schedules

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Speaker 1: these teams play are pitiful. The Big Ten currently seems

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Speaker 1: to be a graveyard of washed up programs. Why should

575
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Speaker 1: we buy into the playoff hype when they are one

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Speaker 1: when one play one or two games per year and

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Speaker 1: that are true test basically saying they only have one

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Speaker 1: or two two tests of a year. Is that why it

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Speaker 1: seems they're unprepared come playoff time. Well, Hio State almost

580
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Speaker 1: beat Georgia last year. I agree the Big Ten like,

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Speaker 1: those two teams are really good. I think we have

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Speaker 1: to acknowledge it. Those two teams are really really good.

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Speaker 1: They were this year, they were last year. For the

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Speaker 1: rest of the country, Michigan, Ohio State could win any conference, definitely,

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Speaker 1: four of the five. I don't know about the SEC,

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Speaker 1: but they definitely. Ohio State has had years where they

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Speaker 1: definitely would have won the SEC. Michigan we're about to

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Speaker 1: find out. But it's not their fault that Wisconsin sucks,

589
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Speaker 1: that Nebraska is a joke, that Iowa's offense is looks

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Speaker 1: like a high school offense. The Big Ten is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a lot better, Like you're not gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to hide as much with Kaylin new Borr Oregon coming in,

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Speaker 1: even USC, they're gonna have so much more talent. Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Smith mount in Michigan State, I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: dramatically improved in the next couple of years. I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: this is where college football comes in. Like last year

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, Remember their schedule was pretty easy. But if

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Speaker 1: you watch football, you need like this team's pretty talented,

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Speaker 1: Like this team's a legit Super Bowl contender. He's gotta

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Speaker 1: watch them, like you can watch Michigan Ohio State and go.

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Speaker 1: These teams are really good, whether they're beating the crap

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Speaker 1: out of Rutgers or Maryland or whoever. Their eye test

603
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: is pretty obvious. And if you watch enough college football,

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00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear. Now I'm in total agreement. The Big

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Speaker 1: Ten is pretty overrated. Here's my take. Always on like

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Speaker 1: what conference or which Yeah, which conference is better? No

607
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Speaker 1: one cares about your depth. No one cares about the

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Speaker 1: fourth team in your conference, right, who are your best

609
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Speaker 1: two teams and what are their ceilings? That's what the

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Speaker 1: SEC has always had. It's like, well, the SEC is overrated.

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Speaker 1: Look at their fifth best team is Mississippi State or

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Speaker 1: whatever on a given year. Yeah, I don't care. Their

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Speaker 1: best two teams are better than every other team's best

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Speaker 1: two teams. So if that's your pitch, if your best

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Speaker 1: pitch is that, that's all I care about. Right, the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve, this year was our conference? Is that good?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but Oregon and Washington were really damn good.

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Speaker 1: So for the first year, everyone took a lot of

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Speaker 1: pride in those two teams were sweet and until Oregon

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Speaker 1: lost to the second times like, Oregon could win the

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Speaker 1: national championship. So if you have multiple teams that you

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Speaker 1: feel could win the national championship, that's all that matters.

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Speaker 1: We judge you on the high end. We don't judge

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Speaker 1: you on the middle in the lower tier. That's a

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Speaker 1: media argument, just trying to our you over something that's irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: It's about your high end teams, right Like, ultimately, the SEC,

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Speaker 1: if it had been a twelve team playoff, is putting

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Speaker 1: in some really good teams. Obviously Alabama and Georgia. Missouri

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Speaker 1: is really good. I mean ole Miss. Who would you

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Speaker 1: take ole Miss against Iowa? Ole Miss against you know, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: Like I'd give ole Miss every bit of a chance.

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Speaker 1: So I actually everyone acts like the SEC sucks this year.

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Speaker 1: Is like do they suck that bad? I mean, LSU's

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Speaker 1: like their fifth best team. They might have the Heisman

635
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Speaker 1: Trophy winning quarterback. Their offense is incredible, So I hear you.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes definitely, we can overrate, you know, a conference,

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Speaker 1: but that's just the way it goes. Okay, it's time

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Speaker 1: You know, the best part about being a backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: is if they really like you and you just get

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Speaker 1: in with the team that has a really good started quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you never have to play. It's like you just keep

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Speaker 1: your job. They like you. You get to make seven figures,

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Speaker 1: get to be on an NFL team, get to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball in practice, get to stay in shape for

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Speaker 1: single You know, you got a lot of options when

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Speaker 1: you go out at night like life's good. But the

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Speaker 1: moment is a backup that you gotta play. You can

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Speaker 1: get exposed. Look at Jake Browning. Jake Browning ideally just

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Speaker 1: beat Joe Burrow's backup for as long as he can.

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Speaker 1: Never have to play. Got a chance to play. Played

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Speaker 1: pretty good, played pretty good. You know, Josh Dobbs got

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Speaker 1: to play too much. It's like, ah, we need to

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Speaker 1: reign it back in. Tim Boyle, who somehows has been

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Speaker 1: in the NFL and unless you watch preseason, you never

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Speaker 1: see the guy play because the Jets are such a

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Speaker 1: debacle and it's like mandated by Rogers and his people

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Speaker 1: that they have to have former Packers on the team

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Speaker 1: at every single position. It's like, this is Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Thing's not really working out, Let's bring in Tim Boyle.

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Speaker 1: Then he throws a Hail Mary. He doesn't even get

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Speaker 1: it to the end zone, which leads to a pick six.

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Speaker 1: And the overall Tim Boyle experience was just pretty embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: And if I was Woody Johnson, because you could be like, well, owners,

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Speaker 1: because I'm big believer in this, Like owners can't medal

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Speaker 1: in football, hire people and let them cook when the

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Speaker 1: team's being really shitty, and I stop having faith in

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Speaker 1: you as an owner of GM, Like, I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get involved. We're paying Zach Wilson ninety to ten

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Speaker 1: million dollars and we're starting Tim Boyle, a guy that

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Speaker 1: can't even throw the ball the fucking end zone from

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Speaker 1: the fifty yard line. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna watch

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Speaker 1: this anymore. Play zact until the season ends. And that's

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Speaker 1: what I would imagine happened. But Tim Boyle is a

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Speaker 1: good example of if I force you to play it

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00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: could be really ugly, like Jeff laccol shows back up

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Speaker 1: throws a couple touchdowns, like oh Joe Flacco, He's not

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Speaker 1: that bad guy won a Super Bowl. Tim Boyle, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't for Aaron Rodgers probably wouldn't be in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Very accomplished athlete, but I think your time

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Speaker 1: is over. That was this week's almost almost Anything Player

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Speaker 1: Order now, big fan of the pod, I've got a

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Speaker 1: mailbag question for you, with a little preamble. As a

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Speaker 1: Steeler fan, I'm torn on Kenny Pickett. He's shown some

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Speaker 1: flashes of it throughout his career, and he's definitely someone

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Speaker 1: it seems both fans and teammates wants to succeed and

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Speaker 1: become the guy. You often criticized him as being an

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Speaker 1: inherently low ceiling player. That's true, but it seems like

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Speaker 1: he's set for one more year to get it right.

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Speaker 1: My question for you is, what's the best case scenario,

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Speaker 1: even if it's a long shot, that you could see

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Speaker 1: happening in terms of an offensive coaching higher for the

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Speaker 1: Steelers next season, and what would Kenny Sealing look like

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Speaker 1: if Omar Kahan were to somehow pull off said higher,

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Speaker 1: thanks in advance. You know, people forget just because it's

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Speaker 1: a long time. It's almost twenty years ago now. When

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers drafted Alex Smith. For the first

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Speaker 1: four plus years before Harbaugh showed up, he wasn't just

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Speaker 1: a bust. It was pretty embarrassing. He was injured, the

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Speaker 1: football was bad. He actually had one decent year with

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Speaker 1: north Turner, but then north Turner went to be the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Chargers, and his career just derailed

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Speaker 1: again with Mike Singletary and it was just ugly. And

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Speaker 1: it took till Jim Harbaugh got a hold of him

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Speaker 1: to get the train back on the tracks, and he

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Speaker 1: became a very very respectable player. Now he was the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick, but you know, Kenny Pickett only

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Speaker 1: nineteen picks separating him and Alex Smith. You know in

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Speaker 1: a draft, if you're the twentieth pick that you would

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Speaker 1: say someone like that, he has to learn to play

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Speaker 1: to his strengths. He is not like when you have limitations,

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Speaker 1: if you're Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: You can just do shit that no one else can.

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Speaker 1: It always bothers me as just a lover of football

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Speaker 1: when Baker Mayfield tries to make these crazy plays, because

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Speaker 1: every once in a while he makes them, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna do that like five more times, and then

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Speaker 1: he'll try to do a three sixty and run away

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Speaker 1: and then like Fred Warner, will you know, sup plex him?

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Speaker 1: It's like, you can't run away from these guys. Throw

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Speaker 1: the ball away. You're much closer like Philip Rivers athletically

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Speaker 1: than you are to some of these guys. And Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett is a good athlete, but so was Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: And I think he got around Andy Reid and he

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Speaker 1: got around Jim Harbaugh and they just kind of contained him.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the type player he has to

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Speaker 1: become because the moment look at Mac Jones. Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: it's not all his fault, but I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of times feels like he's closer to Josh Allen or

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert than he is to you know, just your

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Speaker 1: run of the mill player. And what happens disasters because

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Speaker 1: when you don't have a great arm you throw a

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Speaker 1: pretty interceptible ball. Now, Like you said, Kenny Pickett does

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Speaker 1: have a little moxie and a poise to him in

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Speaker 1: these big spots because he has a lot of comeback victories.

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Speaker 1: So you got to give him a lot of credit

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Speaker 1: for being mentally tough, because he could have a really,

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Speaker 1: really crappy game and somehow in the fourth quarter after

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Speaker 1: said crappy game, find a way to have a really

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Speaker 1: good drive. He's done that. We've all seen him do

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Speaker 1: that countless times in his career. Knows is a gym

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Speaker 1: for some reason. Ever since I brought in this Christmas

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Speaker 1: tree to my house, maybe I'm allergic to the Christmas tree.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Christmas tree inflation is a real deal.

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Speaker 1: But I just think when you get a guy with

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Speaker 1: a low ceiling, he has to play within himself. Anytime

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Speaker 1: that he tries to play outside and tries to do

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Speaker 1: the stuff great players do, you're gonna lose. You're gonna lose.

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith went on to have those three or four

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Speaker 1: great years relative to his career because he just knew

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Speaker 1: his limitations and he didn't color outside the outside of

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Speaker 1: the Lions mahomes Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, you know, even CJ. Strout.

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Speaker 1: They can color outside the Lions a little bit. They

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Speaker 1: can try stuff that's like no, no, no, yes. Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett doesn't have many no no, no yeses. He usually

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Speaker 1: has no no no. That's Mac Jones. That's his go

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Speaker 1: to play. No no no, we're on fired. That's the

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Speaker 1: that's the Mac Jones. People seem to want anyone but

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Speaker 1: Perty to be the MVP. Even debating how many others

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Speaker 1: players in this offense are more important, whether it's CMC,

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Speaker 1: Debo Trent not, many want to see what seems pretty

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Speaker 1: obvious to me. No other quarterback has run Shannan's offense

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Speaker 1: as effectively since Matt Ryan's MVP season in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aigman, Peyton Manning, etc. All

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Speaker 1: had weapons and coaching. Lay could not win a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl until he got Charrell Davis. When Brock Purty is out,

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Speaker 1: this offense is unwatchable. Has proven in the NFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 1: When other Cornerstone players are out, Purty keeps it competitive.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what we're arguing anymore. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is such a small percentage of people they're like,

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Speaker 1: party's overrated, Perty is not that good. We all watch football.

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Speaker 1: We all can admit something like just Rock Purty is

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Speaker 1: not Josh Allen. He's not saying he's not gonna break tackles,

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Speaker 1: even though he did the other day. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: throw the ball seven one hundred and fifty yards down

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Speaker 1: the field. But if you watch him play, do you

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Speaker 1: know what brock Purty is. He's everything we wanted Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield to be. He's every reason that John Dorsey and

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns drafted Baker Mayfield number one. They wanted

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Speaker 1: him to look like this. The accuracy, the playmaking. Brock

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Speaker 1: Purty is what Baker Mayfield was supposed to be as

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Speaker 1: the top pick. This is the fact. Part of the

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Speaker 1: reason the brock Purty narrative is what it is because

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Speaker 1: he was a seventh round pick. If brock Purty had

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Speaker 1: been a second round pick, I think we would discuss

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Speaker 1: this differently. When you're think about Bryce Young. Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: came from Alabama, where he was a multi year starter

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Speaker 1: two years ago. He played one of the great most

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Speaker 1: talented defenses we've ever seen the team. Brocker, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young beat in the SEC championship game. They ended

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Speaker 1: up losing in the National Championship, but had I think

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Speaker 1: seventeen players drafted on defense and he fucking dominated him

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Speaker 1: and I loved him in college. He has been putrid

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Speaker 1: in the pros. I mean, he couldn't be any worse now.

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Speaker 1: Frank doesn't know what he's doing organization and shambles offensive skill. Guys,

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Speaker 1: we can try to summarize and justify for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: If you just watch the guy play, you go, this

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Speaker 1: guy sucks this Now. Time will tell whether it was

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Speaker 1: a situation or whether it's him. I'd be pretty nervous,

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Speaker 1: I really would. But I hear so many people say this,

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Speaker 1: and I understand why they do. It's like, we gotta

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Speaker 1: give Bryce Young time. We can't totally write Bryce Young off.

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Speaker 1: He has a lot of career left. This year will

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Speaker 1: not define him. If brock Perty had looked like Bryce Young,

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Speaker 1: every single person and their mother and all their mother's

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Speaker 1: friends would think he's the worst NFL player in the

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Speaker 1: history of the league. So where you're drafted, like after

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Speaker 1: a couple of years, it doesn't matter either good, you're bad,

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Speaker 1: You're a starter or a backup whatever. But like those

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Speaker 1: first couple of years kind of define the way we

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Speaker 1: talk about you, because, well, how could every team in

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Speaker 1: the league have passed on this guy seven to ten times?

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00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: How's that possible? Hell, the forty nine ers today just

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Speaker 1: cut Ty Davis Price, who was a third round running

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Speaker 1: back from LSU who I thought was pretty sweet in college.

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Speaker 1: By the second year, they just got rid of him. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's because lazy practice player Kyle doesn't like him,

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Speaker 1: can't learn the playbook. I don't know. It might not

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Speaker 1: just because he's not good enough. But Rock Party was

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Speaker 1: in that draft and they took that guy in front

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Speaker 1: of him. That guy got waved today to make room

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Speaker 1: for Logan Ryan. Meanwhile, brock Purty is tied with Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott for MVP odds in twenty twenty three in early December.

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Speaker 1: So I think the narrative is a like if brock

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Speaker 1: Party had been the number one overall pick, everyone would

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Speaker 1: be like, is this the best player in the league?

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Speaker 1: How good is this guy? Is this one of the

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Speaker 1: best small quarterbacks we've ever seen? It's this guy. Do

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Speaker 1: you know who My comp for brock Purty is my

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Speaker 1: athletic Drew Brees. That's ultimately the way he plays, he's

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Speaker 1: a mobile Drew Brees because he hangs out on accuracy anticipation,

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Speaker 1: but his leadership is Moxie. Is just all the intangible

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Speaker 1: stuff off the charts, but he can move, which you

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Speaker 1: have to be able to do in today's game. And uh,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I think brock Purty is everything that

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Speaker 1: we thought Baker Mayfield is going to be, at least

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Speaker 1: guys like me who thought Baker Mayfield is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a really good player. I have not heard anyone say,

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00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: in response to the mock outrage over the college football selection,

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00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: that all these schools ran toward the network money cost

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Speaker 1: us the Pac twelve. Even Florida State was looking to

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Speaker 1: break their current television deal. Now that networks are cashing

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Speaker 1: it in, they want good TV and Bama Georgia provides it.

847
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: And for those clowns at ESPN, your bosses did this.

848
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: Only Herbie understands this. Collin's analogy when I talk to

849
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: the other day, was wait, so you want me to

850
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: pay for the wedding and then I don't get to

851
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: have any influence over the meal. It's like television's paying

852
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: for all this stuff. Man. This sport, the sport of football,

853
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: is all based on us, me, you and every single

854
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: person listening this, sitting on our couch and consuming. It's

855
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: why I just saw on my Twitter timeline during Monday

856
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: night football, you would have thought that Michael Jordan was

857
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: playing Magic Johnson. I fought a lot of people that follow,

858
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, cover basketball, and they were like, oh my,

859
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: the n season tournament. Adam Silver finally did it. He

860
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: did it. Adam Silver figured it out because the nd

861
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: season tournament. I guess there was a Celtics Pacer game

862
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: that was, you know, got a good effort in regular

863
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 1: season game, you know, thumbs up for you guys. I guess.

864
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: And I saw today that someone I follow put out

865
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: the television ratings and almost seventeen million people watched the

866
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: Bengals with their backup quarterback play the Jags probably you know,

867
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: a bottom five brand in the NFL. Seventeen million people

868
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: that Pacer Celtics game, which you know, clearly the Pacers

869
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: Tyers Halliburton one of the better players in the NBA

870
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: and Celtics one of the biggest brands. Based on my

871
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: Twitter timeline, I would have thought ten million people watched it.

872
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: They barely had a million people. And then the doubleheader

873
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: was Kings Pelicans, seven hundred and thirty thousand people watched.

874
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: To put that into perspective, ten million people on Friday

875
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: night watch Friday Night the worst television night of the week, Oregon, Washington.

876
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: So I guess it's a long way of saying television

877
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: and football is the reason football. The NFL is the

878
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: number one sport, and college football is the number two sport,

879
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: pays for fucking everything. All these enormous weight rooms and

880
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: coaching offices in the NIL flowing. The reason the NIL

881
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: is flowing is because of the fans. There are more

882
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: of them. And honestly, I think Adam so the NBA

883
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: is gonna have a new commissioner in two years. That's

884
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: something I'm pretty I believe pretty strongly in. And I

885
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: know a lot of people. You know, I even heard

886
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: Coward say Mark Cuban run for president. Whatever. I think

887
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban sold the majority stake in his team simply

888
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: because going back to when he cashed out in the

889
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: dot com bubble by low Sell, high Mark Cuban shorting

890
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: the NBA. The NBA is in major trouble with their

891
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: television deal. ESPN's running out of money, Disney's and Shambles.

892
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: These streaming networks are very you know, very very strict

893
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: in what they pay for stuff based on the numbers.

894
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: If you just follow the NBA media, they've been talking

895
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: about this salary cap tripling for a decade. Honestly, I

896
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: think they will be lucky to get the same amount

897
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: of money they got the last television deal. And honestly,

898
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna get less. There are way less people watching

899
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: the sport and that's why television ratings matter so much

900
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: when we describe pro sports. That's where all the money

901
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: comes from. And I understand if you're not that into

902
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: it and it's like it doesn't interest you, I get it.

903
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: But that's the entire business. That is the business model. Right,

904
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: you go to in and out their business model. You're

905
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: getting the same double double that you got a year ago,

906
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be very expensive and you're gonna

907
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: be you know, get through the drive through pretty quick.

908
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: Same thing with Chick fil A. Every time you have

909
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: a Chick fil A sandwich, taste the fucking same their

910
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: business models. You're coming back quick service. The line moves

911
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: fast even though there are seven million cars. You know, you

912
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: go to costco. You buy in bulk, but you get

913
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: it for cheap, right. The NFL's business model is simple.

914
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: When you turn on the game, players and coaches are

915
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: gonna try, and the games are gonna matter even when

916
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: they don't. And that's why they've lapped these other sports.

917
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Scarce product, scarce inventory. You only play once a week,

918
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: And when you turn on the television last night, Bengals

919
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: versus the Jags, Jake Browning versus you know, by the

920
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: end of the game, CJ. Bathort, it meant a lot.

921
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: It felt like a playoff game. That's football. That's football.

922
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: And I think when it came down to the college

923
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: football playoffs, it's like, we can't put a seventeen point underdog, right.

924
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: If you gave the NFL the ability to choose, would

925
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: they rather choose, you know, let's just pick a random

926
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: team like the Rams going on some crazy run and

927
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: knocking off the Cowboys Eagles in forty nine ers, right

928
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden being a ten point underdog

929
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: to the Ravens in the Super Bowl. Or would they

930
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: rather have forty nine Ers Ravens coin flip game right,

931
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: Cowboys Ravens? Of course. Honestly, if the NFL could choose.

932
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: They put the cowboys there all the time. But the

933
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: best part about their business they don't necessarily need to

934
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: because most playoff games and most NFL games are relatively close.

935
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: I think eighty plus percent are a one score game.

936
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: That is not the case with college and we've seen

937
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: it in recent memory, like part of what made last

938
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: year cool. In the in the semi finals, we got

939
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: two incredible games Michigan TCU and Georgia Ohio State. That

940
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: was not the case in recent memory though in that

941
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: college football finale was awful. What was the final score?

942
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: Seventy to seven? It was unwatchable. So if you have

943
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: the opportunity to choose, when I'm paying for everything, like

944
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: you said, they're taking the money. When when someone pays

945
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: you a lot of money, like, I don't know a

946
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: lot of people listening, I don't know how closely you

947
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: follow golf. John Rahm is rumored, and by now it

948
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: feels more than rumors is going to go to the

949
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: Live Golf Tour. And the number started at like three

950
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: hundred million, four hundred million, it's up to like five

951
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars. And whether this is negotiating

952
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: ployer with the PGA Tour. Whether it's not, I don't know,

953
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: but I do know this that eventually the PGA Tour

954
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: is gonna have to get involved with the sadis why

955
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: they have all the money and the PGA Tour is

956
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: not big enough to do it on their own. They

957
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: can't keep functioning the way they're functioning and maintain a

958
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: business model. But the moment you go into business with

959
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: the sadis, who literally have all the cash they have,

960
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,479
Speaker 1: you know, an outsized importance in your business model. Why

961
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: they're paying for everything. It's funny, you know, my dad's

962
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: not around anymore, but some things just live inside my

963
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: head that you will value everything you have when you

964
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: start paying for it. It's easy to complain about dinner,

965
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: or easy complain about something in the house when you're

966
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: fucking just living in it as a twelve year old.

967
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: And as you get older, you buy a house, you

968
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: remodel stuff, you realize how much stuff costs. You start

969
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: really valuing everything. It's hard to value things as a

970
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: little kid, right, It's why you just complain about things.

971
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: You look back to you go, God, I was a

972
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: little idiot, you know, And those words are so true,

973
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: but you know your parents or whoever you're living with

974
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: growing up, are the people paying for everything you have

975
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: no money, So of course you got to listen to them, right.

976
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: No different in business when whoever is the one making

977
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: all the financial decisions or paying for it all. It's

978
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: why so many of these companies. I listen to a

979
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: great podcast it's called Acquired. They do these like three

980
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: to four hour it's really long in depth look at

981
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: different businesses. The most recent one is on visa like

982
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: where it originates all the way through now. And there

983
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: was a great one on Costco and all this incredible

984
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: information about Costco right, like how big Kirklin is relative

985
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: to all these other companies, but any company, right, if

986
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: I'm just just pick you know, data Rade, or you

987
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: know some of the toothbrush brands or the you know,

988
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: toilet paper companies, the percentage of business that I do

989
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: through Costco relative through all the other chains is outweighed

990
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: to Costco. Like I need them. They make me a

991
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: lot of money, so they can kind of hold me

992
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: to the fire on stuff, even though they don't. They

993
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: only have a couple requirements, like whatever skew you give

994
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: them has to be different. From any other SKU you

995
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: give anyone else, but they don't fuck people and one

996
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: of you know, people like doing business with them, at

997
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: least according to this podcast I listen to. I've never

998
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: done this is what costco beside as a consumer and

999
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: I think sometimes, like listen, Florida State gets to complain,

1000
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: but like you said, they desperately want out and into

1001
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: the sec. Why there's more money. It always like society

1002
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: revolves around money. I've said, listen, I've been a private

1003
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: sector believer in low taxes since I was like seven

1004
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: years old, I mean and the old and that was

1005
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: when i was poor up through my twenties where I'm

1006
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: sitting now. And because the whole world we talk a

1007
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: lot about a lot of different stuff, it all comes

1008
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: back to money. This makes the fucking world go around.

1009
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: If you don't believe that, you are so naive, everything

1010
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: comes second to that. It's all about that. From politics

1011
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: to business, all revolves around the almighty dollar, which you

1012
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: could argue it has never been less almighty, but that's

1013
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: a conversation for something different. But my point is that

1014
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: this college football situation and where they're at as a

1015
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: sport and as an operation is all revolving around cash,

1016
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: and I do think they had a valid argument to

1017
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: not put Florida State. If Florida State was really good,

1018
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: they wouldn't hesitate Florida State. It's a big brand. But

1019
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: I also think, yeah, does Alabama get the benefit of

1020
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: the doubt? Does Alabama is an easy one for them

1021
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: to put them in there? Of course it is. They're

1022
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: the biggest brand in college football, given their coach and

1023
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: given their success over the last twelve fifteen years. So

1024
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: you can't take the money and then complain about it.

1025
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: I can't stand those people. I remember last year what happened.

1026
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: There was some accounting change about something, and all these people,

1027
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: like you know, media people were complaining about it, and

1028
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: it was like, how do you think ESPN you think

1029
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: they're using this and Disney's using these you know, quote

1030
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: unquote loopholes to do business that helps free them up

1031
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: money to pay all you guys. I hope you know.

1032
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: That's how the world works. And sometimes people can just

1033
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: be very naive, And I think sometimes naivete comes from emotion,

1034
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 1: be very emotional. The best people in business aren't emotional.

1035
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: There isn't any emotion involved, and that's why I don't

1036
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: think there was that much emotion involved when it came

1037
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: down to Florida State and when came down in Alabama.

1038
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: The NFL has been little emotion for a long time,

1039
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: all about television ratings, all about making the most money

1040
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: possible and everyone's benefited, and for the most part, no

1041
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: one really complains in terms of like, you know, players

1042
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: bitch and moan sometimes about like Thursday games, but they

1043
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: make more money because of those Thursday games, right the

1044
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: seventeenth game, Like, they make more money because of it.

1045
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: So there's a give and take with everything, and as

1046
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: long as more money comes along with it, you can't

1047
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: accept that money and then also bitch without being a

1048
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: little bit of a hippocrite. The volume