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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Car Stuff, a production of I Heart Radio's

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Hi, and welcome to Car Stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host Scott Benjamin. I am Ben Bolan, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am Kurt Garren. And today, Oh you know what, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>before we even get into our topic, yeah, as I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to jump right in there both feet. But

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<v Speaker 1>but I think there's something that we had talked about

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<v Speaker 1>on the last show that I think we still have

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<v Speaker 1>to address, and that is your brand new car. Pen

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<v Speaker 1>you're in you're new to you car, right, my new

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<v Speaker 1>to me car, So tell us what it is. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've been in this thing for about a week, so

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<v Speaker 1>tell us a little bit about it. Did we did?

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned that did we meant not talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>people week? So we we've talked about what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but you were a day away from picking it up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I took possession on a seventeen Ford Escape, a

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<v Speaker 1>little over sixty thous miles on it. But I got

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal. So I I am currently seller trying

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<v Speaker 1>to sell my Monte Carlo. That's a whole different bag

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<v Speaker 1>of badgers, But so far I really enjoy it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know how it is if you've owned older cars for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, first off, Also, never buy a brand new

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<v Speaker 1>car if you've driven around older cars for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like the freaking future when you hop into

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's built. More recently, I was looking into escapes

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<v Speaker 1>because I did a fantastic, blazing road trip from Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>to New Orleans and back in a Ford Escape. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a hybrid, and to be honest, I probably killed

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<v Speaker 1>the hybrid uh with a little bit of a lead foot.

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<v Speaker 1>On the way back to Atlanta. I shaved a probably

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour off whatever the average drive time would be.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna say your life, Well, I I may be

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<v Speaker 1>shaved a may have shaved a few days off my

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend's life. She was not happy with my driving the

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<v Speaker 1>scary trip. Well, we had places to be, yeah, I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I had an appointment in Atlanta at that time. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>But this car, this car is need and it's weird

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<v Speaker 1>when you start driving in um you know again in

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<v Speaker 1>newer vehicles. Is the first car I've ever had that

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<v Speaker 1>has a backup camera that I'm like, maybe learning to trust,

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<v Speaker 1>but I still have to you know, I still have

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<v Speaker 1>to pop my hand over the shotgun seat and do

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<v Speaker 1>the turnaround. You're living in the future. Man, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've you know, driven relatives cars that have backup cams

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<v Speaker 1>and they've only been around for like ten years now,

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<v Speaker 1>but none of my cars have ever had them. But

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<v Speaker 1>but that is definitely a futuristic thing, and it's tough

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<v Speaker 1>to it's tough to get accustomed to trusting that is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I will. I'm gonna be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm always going to have to do a

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<v Speaker 1>physical eye check. I don't use it, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure curtaining experience with a backup cam very little.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe in a rental car, yeah, every now and then.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you trust it? No, Because when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the screen, I just I can't get used to

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing exactly, Like looking to the right and

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<v Speaker 1>the left. You have to just you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with the visual that the screen gives you in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get a good feel about what's to the

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<v Speaker 1>right or left of the car. And you can see

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<v Speaker 1>behind you, great, but then this little fish i'de off

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<v Speaker 1>to the sides. Yeah, you don't get a good sense

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<v Speaker 1>of distance and size or even if what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always good to look like there's nothing coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the left except a greyhound. It's just and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a dog, that's a that's painting on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of a bus. If I yeah, if I had

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a terrible joke. You're working life. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I had if I had like a kid or a

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<v Speaker 1>new driver, and I was, uh, letting them learn that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff, then I would probably do the old

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<v Speaker 1>you know, parking lot of a school on a weekend

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing and be like, all right, just turn

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<v Speaker 1>on that back camera and just go in circles. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>use that to drive. So aside from aside from the

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<v Speaker 1>backup camera, what's your overall impression of this thing? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is it you It's like it's like future. Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>do love it? Okay, So you're not like it, are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you still reminiscing about what it was like to

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<v Speaker 1>drive the money car lot? Yeah? I kind of thought

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<v Speaker 1>you would. Absolutely, So anything that you're looking forward to, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>have you jumped it yet? Have you jumped? I jumped?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, you've had it like two weeks now. What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? Uh? Yeah, not yet. OK. I'm doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of I broke out my old map where I

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<v Speaker 1>have the you know about this, and it's gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>these concentric circles where I mapped out how long it

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<v Speaker 1>takes to drive somewhere and back. So that and I've

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<v Speaker 1>had this since I started driving, so that I could

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<v Speaker 1>figure out, you know, if I have forty eight hours

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<v Speaker 1>and I cut in like of that forty eight hours,

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<v Speaker 1>I cut in six hours of sleep every twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 1>then how far can I get? How far can I

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<v Speaker 1>come back? Right? How how obviously want to get in

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<v Speaker 1>that time? We'll see, man. It's also it becomes, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it transcends habit into addiction. But I've got some cool

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<v Speaker 1>day trips lined up. I've got one really close by

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<v Speaker 1>the way. This weekend as we're recording it. I'm taking

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<v Speaker 1>some of our colleagues up to a Hindu temple in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's pretty neat, it's legit, man, And also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still a cheap skate. It's also free to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like if you ever, you know, Scott, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to you want to get the kids some

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<v Speaker 1>culture on a on a little day trip, It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>very reasonable to get there. And they've got a got

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<v Speaker 1>a cool temple. They've got a they've got a can

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<v Speaker 1>I say kick ass? They have a kick ass gift shop,

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<v Speaker 1>A little snap shot. The only thing they ask is that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you have to not wear shoes in the temple.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to not speak in the temple, a rule

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<v Speaker 1>that is regularly disregarded by children. I should I should mention.

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<v Speaker 1>And the third one, the third rule, which might be

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<v Speaker 1>a little weird, is they they ask you not to

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<v Speaker 1>bring meat onto the premises. And it's worded in such

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<v Speaker 1>a way that, like you ever read laws or rules

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<v Speaker 1>and you think, what the heck happened? I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>some somebody must have run in there just like covered

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<v Speaker 1>in barbecue sauce and ribs or something. Because they're very

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<v Speaker 1>hardcore about the meat thing, and that's literally the only thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very hardcore. Surely can bring beef turkey, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be exception to the will ask cured meat

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. I will ask to dried meat, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can put in your pocket. It's gotta be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm like, oh me, this is just my pocket, jock.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just this pepperoni way that it came with the pants. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, long answer, short man, yeah, I am really

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be back on the road. Is are there

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<v Speaker 1>other cars that I would you know that that I

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<v Speaker 1>would want? Well, sure, they're always going to be other

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<v Speaker 1>cars I got. I got close to, I got close

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<v Speaker 1>to making some less well informed decisions, let's say, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know how it is, like it's an emotional decisions sometimes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're making it. Whenever you're making a big purchase.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are all kinds of psychological factors that

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<v Speaker 1>come into play where you think, for instance, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making up numbers, right, But let's say you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay You're getting some super high end car and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like eighty thou dollars, and then you see another car

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<v Speaker 1>and it's thousand. But by the time you're already spending

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<v Speaker 1>eighty grand, you're like, well, how much is it? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what a price can you put on happiness? Right? And

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<v Speaker 1>go back and you try to persuade your significant other

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not crazy. You know, we've all been in

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<v Speaker 1>some variation of sure. So it's here's the thing, though,

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<v Speaker 1>we've also been whenever we buy a car new to

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<v Speaker 1>us or brand new, new or used whatever, we always

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<v Speaker 1>know that there are some owner modifications we have to

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<v Speaker 1>make right. It could be something as simple as, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting some tuning done, getting some wheels that you prefer.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be oh god, like, what's that stuff? I

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<v Speaker 1>hate rain X? You know, like it's time to put

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<v Speaker 1>the rain X on and Scott Scott on the sea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all all those little things. But one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been considering, and I am not alone in this,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I've been considering adding to this new car

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<v Speaker 1>would be dash camps front and back, nicely done. I

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<v Speaker 1>would as well enjoy a dash cam. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I wanted all the time though, And I've got

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a few stipy lations that would have to

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<v Speaker 1>be in place, I guess before I ever purchased one.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll discuss those at some point. But what about you, Kurt,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think you would ever go for a dash cam? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>especially after doing a little research for this conversation here, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to talk about some interesting things in

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<v Speaker 1>this kind in this podcast that maybe people haven't really

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<v Speaker 1>considered when they're looking at the dash came because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've all seen dash cam footage that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>either one it's either hilarious, right, or you're watching something

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<v Speaker 1>that is well, it's practically like tragedy unfolded in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you. If you happen to see one that's like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You see some interesting things like newsworthy things you find, um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe maybe we should just let some

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<v Speaker 1>of these go until we until we actually get to them,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's some there's some other twist to this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I find fascinating in some ways that you

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<v Speaker 1>can use dash cams either to your advantage or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even to your disadvantage as well. Will discuss. But we've

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<v Speaker 1>probably we've got we wanted to do a show on

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<v Speaker 1>dash cams for a long time. It's not like their

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<v Speaker 1>brand new technology of course. And I know we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, dash camp footage that we've seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some some funny some unique things that we've seen or

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<v Speaker 1>just in passing, you know, nothing really in depth, but

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<v Speaker 1>um we have really talked about like you know, who

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<v Speaker 1>needs them, or how much they cost or what they

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<v Speaker 1>do or you know, the real the intent behind them,

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<v Speaker 1>the real purpose behind them. So there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>angles here that we just have never covered over the

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<v Speaker 1>over the past years. I mean, I know we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>again just touched on a few things, but we've never

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<v Speaker 1>really talked about them in one complete show. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think with Kurt here and with Ben here and myself,

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<v Speaker 1>we should be able to have a pretty decent discussion

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<v Speaker 1>about what we've seen, what we know about them. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is necessarily the place, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm not reigning on anybody's parade here when

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<v Speaker 1>I say that, I don't think we're gonna, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>recommend one specific model for you to get that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best one or anything like that. This technology changes

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<v Speaker 1>relatively quickly, just like you would expect. There might be

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<v Speaker 1>some that are that are recommended by certain websites like

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<v Speaker 1>c net or you know, any consumer consumer guide or

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<v Speaker 1>you know places like that that might say the is

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<v Speaker 1>the best one right now for the its price point,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's fine. We can talk about those. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>such a variety of price point, Oh there really are. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another thing is is the incredible right of prices.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kurt and I were talking off air about

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<v Speaker 1>the gap between the lowest and the highest price one

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<v Speaker 1>that I was able to find. It's it's uh, it's immense,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a huge difference, but what you get is also

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<v Speaker 1>completely different, So we can we can dive into all this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that it's something that's it's worthwhile talking

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<v Speaker 1>about because it seems like we would all benefit from

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<v Speaker 1>something like this, I mean almost everybody. And Ben you

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned to me off air as well that UM

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<v Speaker 1>and and a Kurt that you almost see this as

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<v Speaker 1>becoming like maybe a UM have required feature on cars.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely that is mandated, right, And the reason yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I feel that's a solid bed is

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<v Speaker 1>because of the rise of onboard camera technology that we

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<v Speaker 1>already have for you know, parking assistance, like a rear

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<v Speaker 1>view camera. Right. Also in terms of insurance and determin

0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:05.000
<v Speaker 1>need liability, it's it's a no brainer for insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that I would see it happening is I

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<v Speaker 1>would see I would see certain models or types of

0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:18.520
<v Speaker 1>dash cams being incentivized by private insurance companies. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a lot of these uh, insidious kind of

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<v Speaker 1>overarching systems. It rarely starts out as something you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. It starts out as something you can opt into.

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<v Speaker 1>For a discount, right and then a few years later

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<v Speaker 1>the discount becomes less and less important because the true

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<v Speaker 1>cost of insurance in everybody's head is the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>insurance that you pay when you have a dash cam.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of course you would why wouldn't you, of course

0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.800
<v Speaker 1>normalize it. That's what I think is happening. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to become normalized technology. I think, yeah, I really think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but right now, I think about who needs

0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.880
<v Speaker 1>these right now? For for my short list of people

0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that needs them, and it's probably includes everybody really, but

0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.360
<v Speaker 1>for now, you know, truck drivers, fleet owners, bus drivers,

0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.680
<v Speaker 1>anybody that drives for maybe a shared ride company like

0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Uber or Lift. You know those drivers they need them.

0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.920
<v Speaker 1>They point them the opposite direction to uh point inside

0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.199
<v Speaker 1>the vehicle for safety, so they use them as well

0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.360
<v Speaker 1>taxi drivers of course. Um. And then the general idea

0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.320
<v Speaker 1>is that you know, you get this camera that that

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<v Speaker 1>records a wide angle of view. A lot of times

0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.280
<v Speaker 1>you'll see the the angle as one of the selling

0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.880
<v Speaker 1>features on the on the cameras typically like a hundred

0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and seventy degrees, So you get a wide angle and

0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just a constant recording of of what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the vehicle or wherever that lens happens to

0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.880
<v Speaker 1>be pointing, if it might be pointing inside the vehicle,

0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.640
<v Speaker 1>as we said for a share driver. But you also

0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.720
<v Speaker 1>could have multiple cameras on the car. You could have

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<v Speaker 1>all all different variations of this. But you know, so

0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.319
<v Speaker 1>these views are all from you know, one or more viewpoints.

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<v Speaker 1>And as Ben said, this could be extremely valuable for

0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.680
<v Speaker 1>insurance companies if they decided that, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a dash cam on your car, we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>of view a bit of a cut rate on your

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<v Speaker 1>premium for the next six months or the next year

0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.280
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, as long as you keep that on and

0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.440
<v Speaker 1>make that available to us if there is an accident,

0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.840
<v Speaker 1>if there is a problem, and uh, and of course

0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you would agree. You have to agree to that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess once that's all in place, you can again

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<v Speaker 1>count on that benefit coming through, even though you have

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<v Speaker 1>to invest in the technology to begin with, or if

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<v Speaker 1>you're lucky enough, maybe you've got a car that already

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<v Speaker 1>has this built in, because there are cars that have

0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.880
<v Speaker 1>systems built in that will do this already. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>would have to assume that this encompasses almost any car

0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.640
<v Speaker 1>right now that is claiming to be driverless, any car

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<v Speaker 1>that is claiming to have an autonomous mode. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>one in particular I'm thinking of is one that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in recent news and maybe the two of you

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<v Speaker 1>have also seen this. But there's something in the Tesla

0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:51.440
<v Speaker 1>models that's called Centry mode. If you heard Tesla center mode. Okay,

0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.520
<v Speaker 1>so this is uh something that uses the Tesla cam

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<v Speaker 1>videos I guess as a dash cam footage, and Centry

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<v Speaker 1>mode is something is a mode that you can put

0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the car in that again uses the cameras. And there

0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:05.400
<v Speaker 1>are eight cameras in total on the new Tesla model,

0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.560
<v Speaker 1>so there's a lot of them. I mean they're forward facing,

0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.880
<v Speaker 1>rearward facing, you know, left right that you know, it's

0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.800
<v Speaker 1>it's they're all over the place. These these cameras. You

0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.320
<v Speaker 1>can look up the locations if you want, but they

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<v Speaker 1>capture video of vandals that might be up to no

0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.920
<v Speaker 1>good around your vehicle. And it does this in a

0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool fashion. I think. Um I've watched some people

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<v Speaker 1>try to trigger the system. You know, just see what

0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it takes to activate this system, because you have to

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<v Speaker 1>put your car into centry mode. It's not going to

0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.200
<v Speaker 1>automatically do that, and you do have to they say

0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.920
<v Speaker 1>install the dash cam, but it's not really installing, it

0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.760
<v Speaker 1>is just more like having access to it. So there's

0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.800
<v Speaker 1>very specific steps you have to go through in order

0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to set up your Tesla cam system in order to

0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.400
<v Speaker 1>make it work this way. But if you have a

0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Tesla car that was built after August of any of

0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.440
<v Speaker 1>these models, the Model three, the Model S, or the

0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Model X, you will have that feature available to you

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<v Speaker 1>as of February of two thousand nineteen, so you can

0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:59.680
<v Speaker 1>activate this, but again you have to go through the

0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.400
<v Speaker 1>process us to be able to do. It's very effective,

0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.160
<v Speaker 1>but it does activate all these cameras when there is

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<v Speaker 1>a presence noted around your vehicle that looks like they're

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<v Speaker 1>up to no good. And it's funny to watch, you know,

0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the videos, and you can watch them on YouTube or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever video platform you want, but you'll see an owner

0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to trigger his own sentry mode, you know, trying

0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to trigger the camera, and sometimes it works, sometimes it

0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:21.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't work. So it's kind of comical, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>what works, Like, all right, I'm I'm pretending as if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking through a parking lot next to my car,

0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, he said his driveway doing this like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking next to the parking a parked car here

0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:32.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't turn on, but he'll stop and look in the

0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.320
<v Speaker 1>window of the car and it will turn on. It'll

0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.040
<v Speaker 1>activate it. And one of the most clever things about

0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.520
<v Speaker 1>this is that the cameras pick up you know, all

0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.480
<v Speaker 1>of them activate, and you know, it picks up audio

0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and everything. The really cool part about this is that

0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it's always recording anyway. So if you've got it in

0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the centry mode. Let's say that an action happens, like

0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:52.920
<v Speaker 1>someone bumps into your car in the parking lot and

0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.680
<v Speaker 1>they leave. You know that it happens a lot. You know,

0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.520
<v Speaker 1>they'll open the door into it or park you know, parking,

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<v Speaker 1>they may bump your bumper. What's really cool about this

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<v Speaker 1>is that the recording is actually beginning there. The recording

0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:09.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're accessing is recording ten minutes before the action

0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.720
<v Speaker 1>was detected. So it's because it's continually going, it recognizes

0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that moment when something happens, that's the moment that it

0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.000
<v Speaker 1>actually activates and turns on. But you get video and

0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.280
<v Speaker 1>audio from ten minutes prior to that because of the

0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.680
<v Speaker 1>continuous record, which is smart. You know. I like that

0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:29.080
<v Speaker 1>because we've all been at least adjacent to a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where we see a bumper, like a little a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of paint has lost on one bumper another it's

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<v Speaker 1>a parking lot. Someone misjudged the distance or something, or

0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:43.600
<v Speaker 1>someone was jerk with a shopping cart. I saw something

0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.440
<v Speaker 1>years ago on the internet and this was a true story.

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<v Speaker 1>So somebody got their car hit and then they came

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<v Speaker 1>out of you know whatever story they were in, and

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<v Speaker 1>they see this little like piece of notebook paper on

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<v Speaker 1>the windshield. And this person said, Hi, I'm sorry bumped

0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.840
<v Speaker 1>into your car. I don't have any money, uh, and

0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna give you any of my information. But

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<v Speaker 1>somebody saw it happen. So I'm writing this note and

0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Wow, that's it's pretty cold. That's pretty cold.

0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.840
<v Speaker 1>A sociopath is out there in the parking lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the bed bath and beyond or whatever. Also, you know,

0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you're captured on on surveillance cameras. You're gonna get caught.

0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:39.160
<v Speaker 1>My conscious wouldn't allow this. Yeah, there are people out

0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.760
<v Speaker 1>there who will rationalize doing completely irresponsible things. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I think it's better for everybody if we all

0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.520
<v Speaker 1>have dash cams as stick because I do have some concerns.

0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.000
<v Speaker 1>But um, to step back. You know, one thing we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say the way that a way that a dash

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<v Speaker 1>cam is to biically gonna work. It's gonna be uh,

0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be as fancy as the testlas

0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:09.800
<v Speaker 1>centry mode that's like very high end. Instead it's going

0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to be something like a small thing mounted on your windshield,

0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.879
<v Speaker 1>often with a suction cup, right um, and some you

0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:21.359
<v Speaker 1>can use permantent adhesive on. But it's a commitment, especially

0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.960
<v Speaker 1>if it breaks or you want to upgrade. To your

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<v Speaker 1>point Scott about how fast the technology is evolving. And

0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:32.760
<v Speaker 1>then it typically records on micro SD card, right yeah,

0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:37.119
<v Speaker 1>some sort of internal or external type of storage. And

0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:41.320
<v Speaker 1>then you have to be careful because in many of

0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.520
<v Speaker 1>these devices the footage will just be collected until that

0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.520
<v Speaker 1>card is at capacity, and then it'll just loop and

0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.040
<v Speaker 1>start erasing everything. Yeah, it starts to rewrite the old

0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.919
<v Speaker 1>files and so old videos are often recorded over unless

0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you stop them. If there's an event to some sort,

0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, an accident or you know, in occurrence of

0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.159
<v Speaker 1>whatever that you want to see like maybe maybe we

0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:02.919
<v Speaker 1>were driving home and you know, a deer in in

0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:04.280
<v Speaker 1>front of you, in front of your car and it

0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>was so close you couldn't believe it. But then you

0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:07.400
<v Speaker 1>want to check the footage of being home to see

0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 1>how close it really was. Just you know, something cool

0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 1>like that might have happened, or you might have witnessed

0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:13.960
<v Speaker 1>an accident and you want, you know, that person to

0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.919
<v Speaker 1>uh have some sort of benefit from your foot at

0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:18.840
<v Speaker 1>your file footage. You know, you can you can offer

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that to them if you wanted to, or you know,

0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:22.640
<v Speaker 1>it could be something that you're involved in as well.

0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.240
<v Speaker 1>It could be that it could just be a picturesque drive.

0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you want something kind of cool to upload if

0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.439
<v Speaker 1>you're driving the Tail, the Dragon or something like that,

0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.600
<v Speaker 1>some really interesting road or um, you know, some somewhere

0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.160
<v Speaker 1>like that. Now we've we've seen, you know, people use

0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.520
<v Speaker 1>go pros for this for a long long time, but

0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.960
<v Speaker 1>it's slightly different. The go pros just record until the

0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.320
<v Speaker 1>battery is dead or you know, the space is filled up.

0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And their thirsty beasts, Yeah, they really are. I mean

0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:47.639
<v Speaker 1>we've had experience with them in the road rally that

0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.879
<v Speaker 1>we did, but we were continually changing batteries and locations

0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and moving it all over the place, and we had

0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:54.879
<v Speaker 1>we had several of them going all at once. That

0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:56.760
<v Speaker 1>was kind of a different thing. It's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like a purpose built dash cam that is mounted in

0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.680
<v Speaker 1>one spot all the time. It never moves, it's got

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:04.840
<v Speaker 1>power from the from the car systems. You know. It's

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like an accessory that's running all the time. It's

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 1>just a it's a different beast, really, But I will

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you this, I was surprised to find that you can.

0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.480
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to. You know, everybody's got a smartphone in

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.920
<v Speaker 1>their pocket, right and chances are you've got an old

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.920
<v Speaker 1>smartphone that's sitting in a desktore somewhere. Likely you can

0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.760
<v Speaker 1>turn that old smartphone into a dash caam if you

0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 1>want it. There are apps that are available that you

0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:28.960
<v Speaker 1>can use to you can download the and use your

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.399
<v Speaker 1>smartphone as a dash cam. And it does have a

0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of features that you would expect in other dash cams,

0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:36.959
<v Speaker 1>only the storage is a little bit different. The way

0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the files are saved and rewritten are different on some

0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I know that you know that doesn't apply to every

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.640
<v Speaker 1>single app that might be out there, but it will

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:45.879
<v Speaker 1>give you things that you didn't expect to have on

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a smartphone type device like this, Like you know, we're

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a little time stamp that the image you'll also tell

0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you, you you know, critical information like your speed, your located,

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>your maybe your location probably if you have GPS involved,

0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 1>but um, it could also show you you know which

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.439
<v Speaker 1>direction you're at. It just it could be a lot

0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.760
<v Speaker 1>of valuable information for you if you need it in

0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.960
<v Speaker 1>let's say a court case, because you can take footage

0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.399
<v Speaker 1>from dash caams into a courtroom situation and show them

0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:14.240
<v Speaker 1>They've been used many, many times to prove innocence in

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of cases. Ah, yes, yes, because we're also

0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.880
<v Speaker 1>interacting with the world of scams here, right, Yes, So

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.479
<v Speaker 1>we've got to think about it this way. All right.

0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.480
<v Speaker 1>So you're you're the esteemed Kurt Garin, and you are

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 1>driving down the streets of Mumbai or something, and you've paused, Kurt,

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.679
<v Speaker 1>You've stopped maybe at a stoplight or stop sign or something,

0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and then out of nowhere, someone runs towards your car.

0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 1>They slam their hands on the hood and then they

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:50.920
<v Speaker 1>throw themselves on it, then throw themselves back on the ground. Uh,

0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.199
<v Speaker 1>and then have some accomplices who are ready to go

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to court and say that you hit this person. They

0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.840
<v Speaker 1>saw it right. Yeah. Luckily for you, you have a

0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.480
<v Speaker 1>dash cam. It's right there, uh, in the vicinity of

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 1>your rear view mirror. And that dash cam, let's say

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you have a sixteen gigabyte SD card. It's been recording

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.720
<v Speaker 1>for up to two hours, and so you can say,

0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, that's fine, buddy, I will see you in court.

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.879
<v Speaker 1>And then, like you said, Scott, you can play the

0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 1>footage of you at a full stop when this guy

0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>runs up and then you know, fakes his injury or

0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 1>fakes this accident. And as ridiculous as that sounds, how

0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>many videos of that have we seen in the last

0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.240
<v Speaker 1>week when we were researching this. This is a real thing,

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.159
<v Speaker 1>that Kurt. That's probably the reason that we see a

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of cameras in certain areas of the world. I

0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:41.359
<v Speaker 1>think so too. I mean, how many how many times

0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:43.879
<v Speaker 1>did we see the scenario that that Ben was talking

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 1>about play out in the videos that we watched, you know,

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the compilations of a dash camp footage, Yeah, there are there.

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.640
<v Speaker 1>It's different this scenarios. But there was a guy. There

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.199
<v Speaker 1>was a guy that I saw running dive onto someone's

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.240
<v Speaker 1>hood and he and this is the worst one I saw.

0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:02.119
<v Speaker 1>He repeatedly mashed his own head into the windshield until

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the windshield broke and then he fell on the ground.

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:06.359
<v Speaker 1>So this guy was really into it. I mean, he

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>was going for big money. It wasn't just you know,

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you knocked me down and I'm a little hurt. It's

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:12.280
<v Speaker 1>it's I've got a cut on my head. Now you

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 1>have me hard enough and fast enough. But the footage

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>shows that the guy, you know, the driver had stopped

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>long before the man even you know, was near the

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>veal ten feet in the car. He dove onto the

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 1>hood and then smashed his head into the windshield three

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 1>or four times and then rolled onto the ground. And

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 1>that happens over and over and over again. It happens

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 1>with You'll see bicycle riders doing trying to pull the

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 1>same scam. Of course cars will try to pull the

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.440
<v Speaker 1>same same scam. And and Kurt, you and I talked

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:40.360
<v Speaker 1>about this before. This is this is a big time

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 1>insurance fraud, right yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a couple of

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 1>different ways that they can do this. There's um there

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>actually I've looked this up. There there four main types

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>of staged accidents that scammers will try to pull on

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you on the road that can be thwarted with the

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>dash cam. No, I remember we talked to years and

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>years ago about common accident scams. But this list maybe news.

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I suspect, I strongly suspect, as some golden oldies on that,

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that it does. Yeah, these are now these

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>are staged accidents. You gotta remember this. But I guess

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the golden the golden lining and this silver silver I'm

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>terrible with these things. That the silver lining on this cloud,

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>this puffy cloud. Yeah, you had a real hard time

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>with leading a horses somewhere. But okay, whatever, it's the

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 1>idea that the good part about this is you can

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 1>have a dash cam and uh and get out of

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 1>any of these situations if you happen to have this recording.

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Now here's the problem. Yeah, still a lot of people

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 1>don't have dash cams, right, I mean, they're not mandatory,

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.199
<v Speaker 1>no one, So it's an expense. Well, no one in

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:45.239
<v Speaker 1>this room has one, yet I am getting something. I

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 1>honestly think that it's not a bad idea for you know,

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.640
<v Speaker 1>all of us to get one. And probably I might

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:52.479
<v Speaker 1>even look into the one from you know, my wife's car,

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>my daughter's car, just because of what we've seen. But

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>these four types of scams, these four accidents, um they

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 1>actually named them. There's the drive down on, which involves

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>a scammer who motions for a victim to move forward

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>or to you know, merge into a lane, or to

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. Like you've all seen this right, you stop,

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 1>someone kind of motions you through, you start to go, well,

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>they would then begin to go as well, and then

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the person that you know they have motioned would wreck

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 1>into them. That would be the problem. You would be

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 1>your problem. They would be the merging victims problem, because

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>the scammer would deny motioning them forward at all. They

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>would say like no, I never did that. I don't

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 1>know what happened. He just cut right into me. But

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you would be able to spot that on a good

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 1>quality dash cam. There's the panic stop. I think this

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.200
<v Speaker 1>is one that we're all familiar with from those videos

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that we've watched the compilations. Uh, this is one where

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>someone in front of you just jams on the brakes

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>for no reason. It could be a green light. They

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 1>slam on the brakes and you're you just smash right

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>in the back of and partially what happens here, it's

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>not just you know, like they slam on the brakes

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and hope someone isn't paying attention. They're watching the rear

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 1>view mirror for somebody to either look down or to

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>look out the window to the left or right, maybe

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe hold up a phone like this. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>they are. They're watching for something like this to happen,

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>like for you to just for a second not pay attention.

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>That's when they apply the brakes, and that's when you

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>smash into, making it your fault of course. Uh, it's

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>dirty games. Also sometimes they'll even back up into you.

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>There's no one else around, so you've seen that then, right, yeah, okay,

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>so what happens, Well, they're trying to get you to

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>where you're in them by repeatedly hitting their brakes, and

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>then if you're paying attention, they'll just ease back into you.

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>See on the dash cam you actually see the reverse

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>lights as they back into you, which is super frustrating

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>that it happens, But it seems like a lot of

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>times the second that the driver gets out of you know,

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the victim gets out and points at dash cam or says,

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I have a dash cam the car that's in front. Besides,

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>they're just going to take off and and they leave you.

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Of course you've got their license plate information, You've got

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>now maybe even a physical description of them if they

0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>get out of the vehicle. Um, you know, and you're

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 1>able to see that on the that at footage. But

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>it's it's invaluable because otherwise I guess who's at fault

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>in that situation. All they have to do it's just

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>that he said, she said situation in court, right, and

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>given the location of the damage, it's gonna be the

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>person in the car, in the rear car exactly right.

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And but unless there's a witness. Unless there's a witness,

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 1>but there's sometimes there's cameras everywhere, so you never know

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to back into somebody and make it

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>look like a rear under though you're pretty desperate, you

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>know your stam has gotten to the desperate levels. Good point,

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you have just touched on something that I feel. Okay,

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>we're in the middle of our list here. Two more.

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.360
<v Speaker 1>But um, a lot of times, what will happen when

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 1>something like this happened, especially the pedestrian accidents that we

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about before, Suddenly out of nowhere, there are many witnesses, right,

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, they look like about the same age and

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, the same group of people as as the

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 1>person that's wrong. Yeah, but they'll step out from the

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>shadows and there's like three witnesses. They've got, you know,

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>phones in their hand. They take and still photographs of

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>their friend who was on a skateboard seconds ago, laying

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>in front of your car, you know, saying that they

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>were just hit. But they weren't even hit at all.

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>They just laid down in front of you. So they

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>these witnesses appear and you know, you get out again

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and show them. I've got a dash cam. A lot

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 1>of times they will just take off running and I've

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.479
<v Speaker 1>seen it many times on these dash cam videos on

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>both sides. And the other thing that happened, right, yeah,

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the other the other thing. The other thing that that

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 1>occurs is they may have even you know, somebody that

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.360
<v Speaker 1>comes by and says, hell, hey, you know what, I've

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>got a repair shop nearby. Um, I can I can

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>hook you up with you know, um just a cash deal,

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>So why don't you just come over and pay me

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>five dollars cash and I'll replace that bumper and you know,

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>no insurance will get involved that kind of thing. So

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that happens. And then there's other another scam where people

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>pull up like suddenly, what do you know, there's a

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>tow truck right there, happens to be two cars away

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>from the car that you just hit, and they stop

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and offer their assistance. And it's the same situation. Now

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>they've got your car where the the the other car

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and they're saying, well, why don't you just pay for

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the tow to this shop and we'll figure it out,

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and it ends up being like a cash transaction. Never

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>never let that happen. But um, there's so many different

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>levels to these scams. It's unbelievable when you really think

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>about it. I had two more real quick ones if

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't mind, but these are these are the stated accidents.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>There's also the side swipe, which is you know, we

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>can all picture this too, I think, and it's one

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about Ben the old side swipe. Yeah, this

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>is when there are two turn lanes like picture two

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>left turn lanes, and the scammer will take the outside

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>lane and as the victim starts to make the inside turn.

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>The scammer just waits for them to get a little

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>bit too close to that outside lane, which often happens,

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, right front of your car, and they will

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>they will side swipe you. And then they'll say or

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>they'll move their car so that your car side swipes

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>their car is more accurate to say, so that you

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>hit maybe the back quarter of their views exactly right,

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and then they will speed up and and you know,

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you know, of course, cause this accident to happen,

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and then of course say that you know, you you

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>came over too far into the outside lane, it was

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>your fault at Sarah. But dash cams will take care

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>of this as well. There's another interesting thing there too

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>that makes that scam believable, and it's that a lot

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>of people, when they're taking turns on a double turn lane,

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>whether right or left, a lot of people are really

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>garbage about staying in their own lane. Anyway, Yes, and

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why. It's one of those many, many

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>things that I will not hesitate to go. A little

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>road rage Judge drew its jud jury execution happens daily,

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:31.959
<v Speaker 1>doesn't it, I mean, it really does. I mean, just

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's just it's so elementary. Well, it's usually the

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>outside person cutting in right, it's usually going too far,

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, lanes in the intersection, you know, because they're like, oh,

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>it's easier to make the right on red here. But

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 1>then I'll just sort of, I don't know, I just

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of wobble my car into the lane that I

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>would ideally have liked to have been in at some point.

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's really hoping. That's that's putting a lot

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of faith in and the fact that somebody's gonna allow

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you into because a lot of people that are aggressively

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>defending that for whatever reason, they're aggressively defending that fifteen

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>feet of pavement in front of their car. I don't

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>know why, but but it happens. Hey, what's number four?

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>The number four? Oddly enough, it's named my favorite dance movie,

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>The The The Swoop and Squat. Oh yeah, I'm just kidding.

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't dance, Scott, I kind of. You know,

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>It's been said around the office that I do have

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a dancer's body, and I don't know

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>if that's true or not. I think it's because going

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.719
<v Speaker 1>back to the same bolt stuff from previous episode. I

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>think it's because of the energy you put into your

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>daily running. It must be, yes, your training. It probably

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>is my training. Yeah, I'm pretty intense. Um. And you

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>know you see pop, you can see that. I mean,

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>you've seen how how I eat. You know I eat

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I mean, so you know it's just fuel

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>for the machine. Well, also, you know this the swooping squat.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this. Kurt uh Scott

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.239
<v Speaker 1>is the what was it it was? He is the

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>champion of the sup swooping squat in southern northwest Ohio.

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a very small region, but one I'm the best.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>That dance is really so that's where if you're gonna

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>do the swooping squat, that's where you go. That's where

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you have a have a satin jacket with that embroidered

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>on the back. It's very classic because again it's a

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>very discreet part of Ohio. So sorry, man, what's number four? Okay,

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>this has gone silly enough. I guess the swooping squat.

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>This is another um of course, another stage accident, and

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>of course this involves where the scammer passes the victim

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and emerges ahead of them while applying the brakes, and

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>then the victim can't react in time and then rear

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>ends the scammer. Now that this sometimes will be played

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>out with two cars to to scammer cars, which is

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I find I find kind of extra elaborate, really um,

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And this is when the first car has passed the victim,

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the sec car then pulls ahead of both of them

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and then slams on the brakes, then making the middle

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>car then have to slam on their brakes and that's

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>where the accident happens. And then the first car that

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>caused all this leaves, And of course there's no blame

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to be had in that right because hey, I had

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>to stop fast as well because that car was stopping,

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>so they had an extra level to this whole thing.

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>But that has also been captured by dash cams many

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>many times in the past. You can watch examples of

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>all of these happening on dash cams, which I find

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>really fascinating because you can just watch these things unfold

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>once you know what to watch for. And you know,

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know for sure, but have you ever felt

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:38.719
<v Speaker 1>like you've been like kind of part of something like that?

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're in traffic and someone is just breaking

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>completely irrationally. Someone is you know, almost it feels intentional

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that they're trying to get you to ram the back

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>end of their car and you're trying to be careful,

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and it just feels like that. Yesterday I had a

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>very close moment on the freeway, which is terrifying. Someone

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>came to a near dead stop, I mean from freeway speeds,

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>almost dead stopped to get over a lane for no

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>good reasons. It was unbelievab. There's that there's that like

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>three or five seconds where you are just confident that

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>you're not only gonna hit that bumper in front of you,

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and that luckily didn't happen. And then you look behind

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you and you're like, oh, that guy's gonna hit me.

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna it's gonna happen. Here it comes, and then

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't, and you're just like so happy when all

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>that has passed, but also angry at that person because

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, what, what kind of fool does something like

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that on a freeway. But again, you know, there's moments

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like that when you think, all right, if something bad

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>did happen, I would have been in a much better

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 1>condition going into court trying to fight this thing if

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I had footage from a dash cam, and furthermore, I'm

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>just gonna hoppy horse. This is second because I'm setting

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>something up here, Guys. Furthermore, if everybody has a dash

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 1>cam because it's mandatory, then you will have multiple reports

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of anything like that, even if it's not a scam,

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>even if it's someone who was just januine when lee

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a bad driver because they're a dumb person, you just

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>you're just really terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, even then, there

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 1>will be multiple angles. It will be impossible to try

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to spin a different narrative. I'm setting that up because

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I would like to take a moment if it's okay

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>to talk about my pressing concerns, my anti dash cam

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 1>oh philosophy. Do I feel like we need to say this?

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>So not only will not only will this sort of

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>technology in my mind, become mandatory in the near to

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>mid future, but also cars will The trend of cars

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>being connected to the web is unfortunately going to continue. Right,

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>everything your phone can do, your car can do, and

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>then your car will be able to do more. You'll

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>be connected, especially like you said, Scott, with the rise

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>of autonomous vehicles will be connected in these massive citywide

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 1>regional grids, right, and that will happen way before we

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>get any kind of federal level thing, of course, because

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>technology always outpaces legislation. The problem with this is that

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>we will have very few privacy like actionable privacy guarantees,

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and this stuff will start running through Like as soon

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>as these dash cams are connected to the cloud, right,

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>they'll be on all the time. Why wouldn't you turn

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.240
<v Speaker 1>it off? Right? It may be illegal top rated vehicle

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>without a working dash camp at some point where am

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I supposed to smoke by crack? Right? Where is Scott

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>suppose to smous? That wasn't mean that someone in the

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>back of the room didn't hear that. It was like

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it's short for Scott ethan No, no, really like what

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean? So the stuff that you do in your

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>private car is then going to be public knowledge or

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem right right right? Uh? And that could

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>go with you know, that's gonna be tied to GPS

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>data as well. Um, it's not I'm not of course,

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that anybody is uh smoking drugs or

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that they're doing illicit stuff automatically for yourself. Okay, sorry

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Scott Athan, but I will say I will say that

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it is a terribly misleading argument for anyone to say, well,

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're not doing anything wrong, what are you still

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 1>worried about when you're not doing anything more? That's just

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 1>that's that's disingenuous. It's misleading, and there is there are

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>potential there are potentially profound privacy concerns when it comes

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to dash kims Hi. Okay, I've had this argument for

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a long time about the you know, I understand the

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the thought behind this too. You know a lot of

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>people are is like, well, I'm I'm not doing anything.

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not saying anything interesting enough on my phone.

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Why would anybody really care about listening in I don't.

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Anybody can listening if they want to.

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 1>It's boring, right, it's not the point. The point is

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>that somebody is listening into a private conversation on your

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>private phone. That's the problem. And if it becomes like

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.240
<v Speaker 1>this with dash cams inside your car, um audio inside

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the car, because you know, the audio is another element

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 1>of this whole thing, and then you know, early on

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I tell you this is one reason that I probably

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to get a dash cam in my car now.

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I I do think I want one that has video,

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think that I want one that has audio.

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 1>And there's a couple of reasons. One is because my

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 1>taste in music might suck. And you know, any type

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>of video that might appear might have some terrible music

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 1>applied to it, you know, which we've all seen that too,

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Like you like, have you ever seen those videos? And

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like a great video, something's really cool is going

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.280
<v Speaker 1>to happen, but you're like, what is that person listening

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to voodoo music or something? I don't know what's going on? Russian? Yeah,

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Russian dash cam music. That's what. It's terrible. It's terrible stuff.

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>How many just like inane conversations have you heard on

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>these as well, Like people just talking with their girlfriend

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>or their husband or their wife or whatever about whatever,

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, like one of the grocery store and then

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>something happens and they both go oh my, you know,

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>or whatever happens in front of them. You know, it's

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's adds a little bit of drama, sure, but

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you got to listen to them just chat chit chatting

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>before and that's a private conversation that's now public right right,

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>they're saying stuff like, well, you know that that other

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>yogurt just gives me the gas I got, I got,

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't, I can't sit in the room. Holy hell,

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>what is that guy in the BMW? And suddenly bam, yeah,

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>and then something happens, and you know that's the trouble, right,

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean that you get that that five or ten

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>seconds of conversation that you wouldn't necessarily want anybody to hear,

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 1>but it adds to the video. It's part of the video.

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing is like, I don't know

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>about you. Sometimes, like when that happened yesterday, that an

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 1>event that that near accident, all filters are off at

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that point when I'm when I'm speaking, I'm I was angry.

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>He might just consider that. You know. There's also some

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>sometimes when something that you say could be misconstrued or

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>applied to whatever. You know, like they might hear you

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>say something aggressive or angry about that driver or whatever.

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 1>And if you think that they're not going to go

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 1>back that far in the footage, you're wrong. They're gonna

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>take all of that and maybe even more. They might

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>take additional footage from you for a court case, the

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:17.240
<v Speaker 1>entirety of the two hours on that on that sixteen years.

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Here's one example that I can point to in particular

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>that the showcases this, UM, there's a there's a guy.

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>This is a very recent case, and I know there

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>have been other ones, but this is a recent one

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>that happened in UM. I'm scanning the notes to South Wales,

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>South Wales. So this is a guy. His name is

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Scott Curtis. He's forty five years old from South Wales,

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and he just received a jail term for two years

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and six months based on footage from his own dash camp.

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 1>So his own dash cam convicted him and he was

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 1>apparently Scott Curtis was up to no good. He's a

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>drug dealer and he was jailed by his own you know,

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>caught by his own dashboard camp. He was recorded saying

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>as he sold, he sold gear, which gear means, I

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess, um, in pairs it's meth amphetamine. Gear is

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>particularly meth ampheta. He was, He was, yeah, he said,

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.399
<v Speaker 1>well I didn't know either. I didn't. I guess Kurt

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>knew that. Kurt, why don't you call it gear? Did

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you know that, Kurt anyway? Because I say gearhead all

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the time, I think it's just a different meaning, I guess.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>But but he was saying something. I mean, he said

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a few real damning things here and is he said

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>something like he doesn't do valium, but he said he

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>does sell gear as what he sold. What he said, Um,

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, they suspected him of selling this, but his

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>he was caught throwing little baggies of heroin and cocaine

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>out of his car in some car chase. Uh, then

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 1>they caught him, you know, he claimed it wasn't he

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't doing anything wrong. Of course, they see that he

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.439
<v Speaker 1>has a dash caam, so they go to the dash

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>cam footage. They take it as audio as well, and

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>they go back two hours in the footage and it

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>shows him like I think, he's like polishing the hood

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>of his car and he's talking to someone on the

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>phone and you can hear it outside and again he's

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>talking about you know, like he doesn't sell valium, but

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>he does sell gear and he's talking about other other

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 1>um class A drug deals that he had done from

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 1>this yellow forward focus that he was driving. And uh

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and apparently like once he was shown this, he said,

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've still was made here. He was still

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>maintaining his innocence in court even and they said, look,

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>here's here's the footage, here's what we've got, and he

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.320
<v Speaker 1>just completely admitted to the whole thing went away for

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.399
<v Speaker 1>two and a half years. But again, that's one case

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>where you know, as a lot of lawyers have said,

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, these dash cam footage, you know, these these

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>files can cut both ways. It can help you or

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>it could really hurt you in some cases. You know,

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 1>if it shows you've been driving aggressively up until the

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>point of that accident, and then you're trying to say

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>this accident was caused just by another bad driver, they

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>may have, you know, a different opinion if they look

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 1>at that. I'm also wondering, now that you mentioned it

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:52.320
<v Speaker 1>for audio enabled dash cams, I'm wondering if the content

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>there could be pulled without an accident occurring, you know

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like maybe somebody's got a messy divorce proceeding, yeah,

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>or maybe somebody is, uh, they're doing some financial crimes.

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, they're having a conversation on the phone

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.439
<v Speaker 1>that gets picked up. Like you said, we'll take your head.

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>We'll think about this also. Like let's say that you know,

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 1>we talked about uber and lift drivers and you know

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>drivers that are just shared right maybe taxis or something.

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>They've got the camera lens facing backwards, but they've also

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>got audio once they can record what's happening. It's for

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>their own safety, really, and I understand that it makes sense. However,

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>it's also illegal unless you're telling them that you're recording them.

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, they can see the video. They can you know,

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe you've even got a little sign. But it might

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>have to might have to say recording audio as well,

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>because you might pick up their private conversations and then

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>be able to use that against them somehow, or use that,

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a different way, or might become public.

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Now they that's different in every state, right right, George's

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>one party. Well that's a good that's a good point.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so so it varies state by state, but

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's there's so many different concerns here with

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 1>audio and video and and what you're picking up and

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 1>what you're using it for, and also when at what

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>point do you have to give someone your private footage

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>that you you know you've taken or how far back

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>can they go in that footage? You know what I mean?

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 1>That's there's a lot of gray area here, which is

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.280
<v Speaker 1>another reason to be concerned about the use of the cameras.

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And you guys are automatically calling me tinfoil, hattish and crazy. No,

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 1>of course not, of course, now we do that? Wh

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>do that off, Mike? Now, you know what, I think.

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I've only had a couple more things here and then

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll maybe wrap it up. But I did want to

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 1>say that there are some some brands out there that

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.399
<v Speaker 1>are expensive, and there's some brands out there they're inexpensive.

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>We haven't really talked about the disparity and price yet,

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and I will tell you that you know, you can

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>pick you can pick one up from like some of

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the big names that you would expect, like Garment or

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Cobra or Pioneer, and I think there's even some called

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>like there's one called falcon I which has some real

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 1>high end equipment. Is Ken would um lots of different

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>makers and lots of different features you can look for.

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>But when I said, you know that Kurt and I

0:44:57.920 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>were talking about the disparity and prices, you know that

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the difference in like the from Low to High. The

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.359
<v Speaker 1>cheapest one that I found online that you can buy.

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't hardly believe this when I found it. You

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>can buy a seven twenty DP full HD car camera

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 1>recorder that has a hundred and seventy degree wide angle

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and night vision h claims hdm my hookups for three

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 1>dollars and sixty four cents. I know, I know, and

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I got to believe that that is probably not a

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>high deaf image that you would would be able to

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>use in court. I bet it's pretty low rez. I

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think that it's going to be as fantastic as

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it may makes itself out to appear in in this ad.

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>For three dollars and sixty cents, there's just no way. Yeah,

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest with you, man. If the point

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>of a dash Kim is the stop scams, that sounds

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>like you're injury into one. But then I was surprised

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>on the other end of the spectrum. You know, you

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>do the sort feature and you get the most expensive one,

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and you do get to a company that I mentioned

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>just a second ago, falcon I, and falcon I has

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>a completely different set of clientele. I believe they've got

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.280
<v Speaker 1>the fleet owners. So these are people that are adding

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 1>um DEF cams to their fleet of trucks, like maybe

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 1>semi trucks or you know, cross country shallers. These will

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 1>have multi camera capability. They have passwords, sign ins that

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the drivers don't have access to. Um it has streaming

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>capability so that you know, they can be viewed from

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>anywhere the owner chooses, you know, like if they're back

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>in the office or at home or wherever, they can

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>watch what the drivers are up to. WiFi capability all

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that we're talking in the neighborhood of like twelve hundred dollars.

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>But the cameras they may be equipped with, like you know,

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 1>anywhere from three to eight cameras. UM Again, they have

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of added complexity to the system as well.

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're they're not uh, you know, the three

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>dollar camera that we're talking about here, UM at the

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 1>cheap end. These are the real, real expensive ones, and

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>there's everything in between. And I kind of found that

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>UM the best ones the ones that are mostly recommended

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 1>by the current list lists for you know, the best

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>value for your money, the best you know, the best

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>optics at night, that type of thing. The ballpark price

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 1>here seems to be right around two and fifty dollars.

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 1>That seems to be like a topic, like a really

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.800
<v Speaker 1>good quality one brand name, one that has a good image,

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 1>it's got good reputation, good ratings. You can get them

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>for fifty dollars that are still decent, but they won't

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 1>have the options that the ones that are to fifty

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>will have. And I mean this is like with anything else.

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>You can go to the extremes, you can go to

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the three dollar one, you can go to the twelve

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.319
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollar one if you want, but somewhere in the

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 1>middle is usually the best, best deal for you. It's

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 1>so weird too, because, as you said, this field is

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 1>still evolving very quickly with the technology, right, and it's

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:43.799
<v Speaker 1>converging with other technologies, cloud connections, so on. Uh. But

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we mentioned how new dash cams are,

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Like dash cams really started mainstreaming for civilian drivers in

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and twelve. Yeah, that is nuts, because you know,

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 1>we've seen so many dash cam footage clips from police cars,

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 1>police police if you use these for seems like ten

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>twelve years. Some of the best television in American history

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>is composed almost entirely of footage from police dash caam.

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I watch I watch hours of that every week. I

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's so it's so entertaining to me. I love

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 1>because it's it's all police chase is captured on some

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of these dash cams, and some of that footage is

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>just unbelievable. It's it's it's amazing to watch. But you

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>can get similar footage. I guess if you're here, you're

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>up to it. Then if you're out jumping your foard

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 1>escape someday, I do expect that you'll have a dash

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 1>cam in place when you do that. And Kurt A,

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get a dash cam, do you think eventually? Yeah?

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:39.720
<v Speaker 1>What do you think I capturing? Your gonna be chasing

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 1>down bikers on the road, doing a little intimidation tactics.

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:47.319
<v Speaker 1>You're you're like the opposite, right, yeah, I play? Yeah,

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I know you do. I do want to know where

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you go to jump your cars though, Oh there are

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:56.360
<v Speaker 1>there are places all over thanks to the fine services

0:48:56.480 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 1>of the City of Atlanta. Uh, you know what I mean,

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 1>you can jump your car almost the big thing is

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>whether you can land it. That's crazy. The Department of

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Transportation is building ramps for us. Now, yeah, yeah, it

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:14.359
<v Speaker 1>just seems like it anyway it does. Um I would say, also,

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 1>this is a serious question. Do you think we could

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>get a price break if we all went in, like

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:23.320
<v Speaker 1>if we if we each got one front, one rear

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>camera and then we'll be buying six Uh I'm not

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>going to go with that four dollar And you know

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that's that's something too, like you might be able to

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>buy a set up that has a front and rear, which,

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 1>by the way, it makes for really great footage, you know,

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>if there is, there's a lot of footage online, so

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 1>if you if you haven't done this yet, I can't

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>imagine that many listeners have these, but check out dash

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 1>cam footage. Most of it is going to come as

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>as Kurt said, from Russia. Check out the Russian dash

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 1>cam footage. There's other there are other players in the game,

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 1>but Russia is by far and away the best when

0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:00.399
<v Speaker 1>it comes to dash cam footage. Primo Russia, and it's

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>just the wacky stuff seems to happen there. Yeah, Russia

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 1>is to dash cams as as the United States is

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the baseball. There are other people doing it, but there's

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 1>one country that clearly is the best. I feel like

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm prepping for the s a t here when I

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 1>hear a question like that. You know, you can see

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 1>some you can see all kinds of things. You can

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>see meteorite, you can see a meteor shower. Yeah, Kur

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>was just talking about this. That was that's one of

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 1>your favorite ones, right, the meteorite strike in Russia. Yeah, crashes,

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:35.479
<v Speaker 1>you can see some air disasters happen unfortunately in front

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of you. There's lots of natural disaster footage, Bridges collapsing,

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that type of thing. Um. Just there's a multitude of

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>things you can you can look for, but they all

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:46.479
<v Speaker 1>come up under the keyword of dash cam footage. And

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it's something worthwhile to watch, just to kill a little

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 1>time if you need to. Uh, It's it's entertaining. It's

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:54.839
<v Speaker 1>also a little scary and it may even kind of

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 1>shock you into wanting to get one of these for yourself,

0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:00.160
<v Speaker 1>just to protect yourself. When you really start to look

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:01.880
<v Speaker 1>at some of the scams that are pulled and some

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of the uh, the dire consequences that could result if

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 1>these people didn't have a dash cam, you know that

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 1>they could have be in real serious legal trouble. Better

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 1>safe than sorry. And then also I would I would

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>consider for anyone who is just concerned about documentation in general. Uh,

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I do want you to know it is not illegal

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to have your dash cam running if you are pulled

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 1>over by law enforcement or anything like that. So, um,

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you know it's it's it keeps everything transparent. There's plenty

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 1>clips of that online too. Yeah. I think we're at

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 1>this stage. We're at kind of a sweet spot because

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 1>once this stuff comes becomes cloud connected, guys, I'm gonna

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 1>freak out. I'm gonna I am going to freak out

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and go a little bit like uh, conspiratorial, and I'll

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 1>probably I'll probably try to find some way to disconnect

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 1>mind from the web. We'll just hang onto that escape

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and you'll be okay, right, yeah, I hope. So yeah,

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like, um, when we were lost in

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that great North American quiet own or something, we had

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to use your old tomahawk. Yeah, yeah, that's right. It

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 1>was a garment, Yeah, an ancient garment u um GPS

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:10.759
<v Speaker 1>device and it worked perfectly. It really got us out

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.360
<v Speaker 1>of a jam. Yeah that place. And now is the

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:15.799
<v Speaker 1>time to buy your dash cams and then save them

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:18.760
<v Speaker 1>for when you can't find one that doesn't automatically connect

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:22.800
<v Speaker 1>you to the NEDA a good idea. Yeah, alright, no,

0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm in. I'm in. My new business is going to

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:29.319
<v Speaker 1>be vintage dash camps. Wait aren't you also stockpolling light

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 1>bulbs for some reason? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well, I

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 1>mean you don't like that information? Oh sorry, sorry, No,

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you're fine. I like the teaser. We don't know where

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you store them. No, that's that's critical. Yeah, that's mission

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 1>critical for me in that bunker. Okay, Look, I'm leaving, alright,

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean I wouldn't hear from other people. Find us

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:55.600
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook, find us on Twitter, find us on Instagram.

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Let us know your experience with dash cams. No, obviously

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:02.440
<v Speaker 1>we're not saying driver as a criminal. Obviously we're not

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 1>saying anything derogatory about the fine men and women in

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement who are literally risking their lives every day. Uh.

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>But law enforcement caught onto dash cams way before the

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>civilian world did, and they did so because there's a

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 1>reason they work. They can save money. More importantly, they

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>can save your life. Yeah. They protect them, right, They

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 1>protect them against many many legal battles that would have

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 1>been lost had there not been uh kind of that. Well,

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the only blinking eye, right, and that's that's like, it

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>just shows you what's there, simply that no more. I mean,

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you get you get the audio, you get the video.

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 1>It's all laid out right there, and let the judge decide.

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>And I guess I save your life. I mean, you

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 1>can save you from a life in prison. Well that's true,

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:44.200
<v Speaker 1>yeah too, yeah, all right, well alright, so I think

0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:46.680
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0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:48.840
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0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:01.880
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0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:04.560
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0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:06.560
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0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.520
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0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:11.680
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0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.000
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0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:18.680
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0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:21.880
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0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:25.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, hit us up, uh and maybe we'll

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>have like a drawing. No, Scott, you painted us into

0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:32.360
<v Speaker 1>this corner. Now, now we're doing I'm not giving away

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>anything from my desk. I love everything on my desk.

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, Well I think that's about it. Well,

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.160
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