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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: I never thought we'd see this day erin Torres. I

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Speaker 2: honestly did not think that it was possible. I did

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Speaker 2: not think that there would ever be a scenario where

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Speaker 2: we actually see the Purdue boiler Makers in the Final

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Speaker 2: four once again. But it's gonna happen this Saturday, after

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Speaker 2: they win their regional final in the Midwest over Tennessee

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Speaker 2: to advance to the school's first Final four since nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 3: It's surreal. Forty one points from zach edy lot to

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Speaker 3: dive into, to say, the least lot to dive. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: wait a second here, can you guys sense this? Can

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Speaker 3: you sense these subdued? This Manzi's nodding her head. The

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Speaker 3: record just stopped. The erin Torres is subdued. Are you

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Speaker 3: subdued because of Perdue? Is that what's going on? Or

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Speaker 3: are you just are you hungover from ubound win yesterday?

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Speaker 4: What is working?

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Speaker 5: Too?

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Speaker 3: Was working until two am Eastern time, So if I

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Speaker 3: got hung over, I was at some bars that are

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Speaker 3: not open in the Los Angeles area.

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Speaker 4: No, listen.

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Speaker 3: It was an incredible game, it was incredible effort. Perdue

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Speaker 3: deserve to win.

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Speaker 6: I just you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, what what what do you want me

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Speaker 3: to say? I mean the foul discrepancy in this game.

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Speaker 3: I mean Tennessee shot Purdue shot twenty two more file

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Speaker 3: shots than than Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what you want me to say. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's like, I.

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Speaker 3: Just wish we could get a little bit more of

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Speaker 3: a balance with what we're looking at here. And you know,

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Speaker 3: and I think Tennessee fans are rightly pissed because like

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Speaker 3: you know that you just you get to this point.

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Speaker 3: You just want to see a a good game. And

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Speaker 3: it was a good game. Perdue deserve to win. Uh

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Speaker 3: Edie made plays down the stretch, don't and connected not.

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Speaker 3: I just yeah, I mean it was just, you know,

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Speaker 3: just turned into a file fest like every other Purdue

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Speaker 3: game does.

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Speaker 2: And it is what it is, you know, Okay, he's

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Speaker 2: small picture. I'm gonna be a big picture today. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna try to We're gonna try to talk about this

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Speaker 6: So you're mad, maybe you're not mad. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But the Zach Edy free throw discrepancy, as we look

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Speaker 2: at this small picture, is something that you've talked about

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Speaker 2: throughout the season. I have, and it's and it is

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Speaker 2: a conversation and every game Perdue plays. In fact, there

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Speaker 2: was a conversation in entering this tournament of how is

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Speaker 2: Zach Edy going to be officiated? And we saw it

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Speaker 2: today with him getting to the line twenty two times.

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Speaker 2: In fact, CBS had the stat that became the sixth

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Speaker 2: player in college basketball history to attempt four hundred free

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Speaker 2: throws in a season.

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Speaker 3: By the way, there's a video surfacing of Zach Edy

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Speaker 3: cutting the nets without standing on the left.

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Speaker 2: That's great, That's actually awesome.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so let me let me jump in. No, listen,

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Speaker 6: what I will say.

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Speaker 3: The story is incredible, and I think the story is

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Speaker 3: extra incredible from the perspective of not just that it's

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Speaker 3: been since nineteen eighty but you and I were talking

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Speaker 3: before the show everything that has happened in the lead

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Speaker 3: up to this moment the last three years, and I

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Speaker 3: know you know, but I'll reset it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't want you to recond because that's gonna

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Speaker 2: be my thing. I don't want you to steal my

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Speaker 2: thunder because I'm actually excited about Purdue.

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Speaker 6: Okay, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: And so like, because I came in and we started

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Speaker 2: the show and you just wear in like a wet blanket. No,

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Speaker 2: totally were Manzi? Can we turn Monzi's mic on? I

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Speaker 2: want verification? Torres was bummed when this show started.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, yeah, your energy was down.

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Speaker 2: You know, we need to work through this of this

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Speaker 2: conversation because it isn't it's this Perdue gave us no

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Speaker 2: different than any other Perdu game.

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Speaker 6: Throughout the season.

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Speaker 2: It all depends on how officials officiate, right sure. And

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Speaker 2: I just don't think anybody has any idea how to

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Speaker 2: he's seven to three and here's the thing that has

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Speaker 3: Seven foot three like two hundred like three hundred pounds,

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Speaker 3: It's just I don't know, I just whatever, the Purdue

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Speaker 3: deserved to win the game. Uh, Dalton connect did not

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Speaker 3: make enough shots down the stretch. But it was just

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Speaker 3: a weird, weird, weird you know.

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Speaker 2: See, this is the problem that I saw with this

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Speaker 2: Edy and that's for either team, and in the end,

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Speaker 2: Perdue ends up being the team that lasts. But I

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Speaker 2: would even argue that maybe Lance Jones hit the biggest

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Speaker 2: is what is like, I can't fault Tennessee and I

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Speaker 2: can't fault Purdue when you're going to your All American,

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Speaker 2: when you're going to your conference player of the year,

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Speaker 2: because that's what both were doing.

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Speaker 6: What also ends up happening is everybody else becomes irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: And it is so difficult, especially in the Tennessee aspect,

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Speaker 2: is he can get to the free throw line, but

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Speaker 2: they're not calling it every time with Connect, and it's

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Speaker 2: a different game. So now when you look at when

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Speaker 2: at these shot attempts. Of what Tennessee had had, Connect

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Speaker 2: So that's where I think Tennessee in terms of and

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Speaker 2: can't fault them too much, but it was almost like

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Speaker 2: and the the referee portion of it, it's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, like when whoever they played Dukearenzi State, like

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Speaker 2: the conversation is just not gonna end. The whistle was

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Speaker 2: a different outcome in Tennessee wins. But it it does entirely,

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Speaker 2: you know, way on how the game is officiated because

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Speaker 2: he's seven three, Zach Edy just like nobody could figure

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The sas with that though, because I've heard that a lot,

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Speaker 3: and this is something you know. We had Matt Painter

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Speaker 3: him about He gave a great answer. The difference was Shack.

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Speaker 3: With Shack was a forty something percent free throw shooter.

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Speaker 3: Zach Edy as a seventy plus percent free throw shooter,

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Speaker 3: so there's no benefit to fouling him. But I see

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Speaker 3: your point, there's no real way to guard him. I listen.

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Speaker 3: It sucks because now it feels like I'm taking away

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Speaker 3: from this moment to Purdue. I know you were excited

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Speaker 3: to lead with Purdue getting this monkey off their back.

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Speaker 3: I don't want it to become the conversation that I

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Speaker 3: made it because I do think in the bigger picture,

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Speaker 3: we need to celebrate what this team has done over

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Speaker 3: the last twelve to thirteen.

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Speaker 2: And quite honestly, we'll be doing that all week long,

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Speaker 2: here at Fox Sports Radio down the hall. Anytime Zach

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Speaker 2: Ede would do something, there's you know, how is that

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Speaker 2: a foul?

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Speaker 2: How do you call that? How do you end up

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Speaker 2: calling that? And that's always a conversation. I think the

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Speaker 2: It's how do you defend them if he's also going

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Speaker 2: did hit some key free throws down the stretch, but

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Speaker 2: Shack had to deal with it well.

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Speaker 3: And I will say, and this is where Prdue gets credit.

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Speaker 3: And if you know, Matt Paynter or whatever, they made

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Speaker 3: That's where the credit is due to Matt Paynter as

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Speaker 3: of a pick your poison today. Prdue did not shoot

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Speaker 6: So I just bring it up because.

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Speaker 3: That's that's what makes this moment in time with this

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Speaker 3: Zach Edy and some of the same role players. Is

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Speaker 3: you have a team that can shoot threes, you have

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Speaker 3: then when you follow him he shoots seventy percent from

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Speaker 2: This is also, and this may not be fair to

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Speaker 2: Purdue in saying this, this is the difference between what

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Speaker 2: Yukon did yesterday and what Purdue is in terms of Yukon.

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Speaker 2: And the reason I bring Yukon into the conversation is

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Speaker 2: because that's that's that's the measuring stick right now. And honestly,

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Speaker 2: with now only five teams remaining in the bracket, it's Yukon,

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Speaker 2: the men's final four. Two left in the women's they'll

435
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Speaker 2: punch those tomorrow. As for the men's side of things,

436
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Speaker 2: Duke up early on NC State twelve to nine, about

437
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Speaker 2: eight minutes in that ACC showdown in Dallas, Monts. He'll

438
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Speaker 2: be here with an update in about ten minutes or so.

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Speaker 2: He's here in Torres. I'm Dan Beyer. We are allowed

440
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Speaker 2: for the tireq dot com studios. Still talking about Purdue

441
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: punching their ticket to Arizona. They'll be representing the Midwest

442
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: region and facing the winner of this Duke NC State

443
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 2: game in one of the national semifinals coming up on Saturday.

444
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 2: The path of Purdue is something that you wanted to

445
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 2: dive into. My point was for everything that Perdue had

446
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 2: opportunities in the past that maybe seem like an opportunity

447
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: where they could take advantage of and go to a

448
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 2: final four. Here they maybe have their best team that

449
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 2: they've ever had as a number one seed and won

450
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: their eight to nine they ended up beating Utah State

451
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 2: with ease. They took care of a fifth seed, Gonzaga,

452
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: who was probably a four seed because Kansas just wasn't

453
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 2: the same Kansas without Kevin mccullor and a healthy Hunter Dickinson,

454
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Speaker 2: and then they faced the two seed in Tennessee in

455
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Speaker 2: beating them today. So the Purdue road has been I

456
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: don't want to say chalk, but it's darn near Ben.

457
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 2: There haven't been any hiccup sec with maybe we've seen

458
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Speaker 2: in some other regions.

459
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's interesting because I remember doing the selection

460
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 3: Sunday show with you. So I think two things are true.

461
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 3: One and I hope this doesn't come off in a

462
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 3: negative way. They absolutely earned their spot. As you said,

463
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 3: they essentially faced the highest seed they possibly could along

464
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Speaker 3: the way. I'll counter by saying I remember saying on

465
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Speaker 3: that selection show, I said, as soon as I saw

466
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Speaker 3: the bracket was gonna break, I said, I love the

467
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 3: path because Utah State. First of all, if you can't

468
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 3: beat a sixteen seed, you know that's on you. Eight

469
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: seed Utah State, they're center six foot eight, Okay, game

470
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Speaker 3: over there, don't it's whatever?

471
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Speaker 8: And it was.

472
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Speaker 3: It was a twenty something point win Gonzaga. They played

473
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Speaker 3: in the Maui Invitational early this year. Gonzaga, as we saw,

474
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 3: they had a lot of kind of big, kind of

475
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 3: kind of athletic, big guys that want to space the floor,

476
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 3: step out, hit threes. They don't have those guys that

477
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 3: can go mono formano. And I said, I I literally said,

478
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: the day of the BRACD came out, I said, the

479
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 3: only team in this this this bracket that can beat

480
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Speaker 3: them when Purdue is playing their best is the Tennessee Balls.

481
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Speaker 3: I did pick PURDUEO to win this game. I actually

482
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Speaker 3: my national championship game was Yukon Perdue, which very un sexy.

483
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: They were the two best teams all year. But it's

484
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 3: weird because again I don't want to diminish what they've.

485
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Speaker 6: Done, but I just I like the path.

486
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Speaker 3: And I think you said luck is involved, and luck

487
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 3: is always involved, but I this isn't luck. But it

488
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: is the right breaks if you will where you know,

489
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Speaker 3: if you play I don't know if the two seeds

490
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Speaker 3: in Iowa State, that's kind of physical.

491
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Speaker 6: If you get you know, I'm just trying to think of.

492
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Speaker 2: Who else you got to play in Indianapolis in the

493
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Speaker 2: first two days, first two games, and then you have

494
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Speaker 2: a four hour car ride to Detroit. Yes, I mean

495
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: like sometimes the Midwest region isn't so up now. Indiana

496
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: is centrally located to a lot of spots that tend

497
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: to host certain games. Milwaukee, but a lot easier to

498
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: go to Detroit than it is to I don't know,

499
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: maybe go to Des Moines, maybe VA, Kansas City, or

500
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: you know a place like that, so that also falls

501
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: in their favor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just and it's the luck is not

503
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: the right word, and I hope it's not coming off

504
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: like that, but it is. You know, there's just little breaks.

505
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm a Yukon of lump. Guess what

506
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: you'vekon got some breaks. The East Regional was in Boston.

507
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: We saw what the crowd was like there. If the

508
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 3: East Regional is in Orlando, Florida, or Lexington, Kentucky, you're

509
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: not gonna have the same crowd. So it was just,

510
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 3: you know, I do think there are teams that can

511
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 3: beat this Purdue team. I just didn't think any of

512
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: them were in their particular bracket. And that's okay, that's

513
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 3: how the bracket breaks sometimes. But again to your point

514
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: face the highest seed essentially possible in every single round.

515
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Speaker 3: I think we all agree Kenzaga was better even if

516
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 3: one was four versus five, and absolutely deserved this opportunity.

517
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Speaker 2: And that brings me to this Duke team that we're

518
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: watching right now against NC Stayed as they near the

519
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: midway point of the first half. I am not a

520
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: Duke hater. I've never I'm not a Duke fan by

521
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: any means. I know that there are reasons throughout the

522
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: years why certain schools will come to dislike.

523
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Speaker 6: Duke or hate Duke.

524
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Speaker 2: Maybe they were duked in a way where they felt

525
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 2: like they didn't get a call or didn't get the

526
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Speaker 2: calls because the other team has Duke on the front

527
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: of their uniforms. But there is no doubt, Aaron, when

528
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Speaker 2: you're talking about paths to a Final four Duke getting

529
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 2: the opportunity beating Vermont is a thirteen seed. Then they

530
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Speaker 2: had James Madison, who ended up providing no resistance whatsoever

531
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Speaker 2: as a twelve seed in their matchup in the second round.

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Speaker 6: Bela was Duke.

533
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Speaker 2: Duke didn't miss any shots in that scenario, and then

534
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Speaker 2: you lose an All American like Jamal Shed with Houston,

535
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Speaker 2: and I think Calvin Sampson said it best on Friday,

536
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Speaker 2: and I had even texted a buddy before I heard

537
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: Colvin Sampson's comments. There is no one more important to

538
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: their team in college basketball outside of maybe Zach Edy

539
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: at Purdue, that is more important to their team than

540
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Speaker 2: Jamal Shed And so when he went down, just Houston

541
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: was cooked. There was no way that they It was

542
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: a three point game at the end. But Houston was

543
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: a better team than Duke was if Jamal Shed is

544
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: on the floor, and it wasn't. And then now you

545
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: here you are, You're facing a conference foe as the

546
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: eleven seed and a conference foe, and it's something that

547
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: you point up where you can actually have a bit

548
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: of a chip on your shoulder. So's Duke's path of

549
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 2: playing a Houston team without Jamal Shed Maybe an eight

550
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: or nine seed had best considering how difficult it was

551
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: for them to manufacture any offense. Now you're sitting there

552
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: facing a thirteen to twelve and now on eleven, on

553
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: your way to maybe another Final four. Man, it doesn't

554
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: get much easier for Duke.

555
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't. And it's funny because that's what I was

556
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: thinking as well. J Martin and I talked about it

557
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: on our Saturday show, but and J mart grew up

558
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: in the Triangle area. We talked about the significance of

559
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: this game. But the crazy part is usually Duke is

560
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: just like little brother. I guess we gotta play little

561
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 3: brother again to go to the final four whatever. But

562
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: Duke lost to this team in the ACC Tournament. Now

563
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: we didn't know at the time, like, oh, you know,

564
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: NC State's gonna go on this amazing run and they're

565
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: gonna win the ACC Tournament.

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Speaker 6: Then they're gonna get to the Elite eight.

567
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: But it's like Duke can actually have that chip on

568
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: their shoulder of like, oh, the last time we played them,

569
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: we didn't come out ready. I'm sure that's what they're saying.

570
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 3: I'm sure NC State fans would say different. But we

571
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: didn't come out ready. They took what's ours. We went

572
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: to that ACC tournament to win it. We're not letting

573
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Speaker 3: them do this to us again. So it's a funny scenario.

574
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Speaker 3: And listen, you know, it's the oldest cliche in the book.

575
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Speaker 3: He can only play the teams that are put in

576
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Speaker 3: front of you. But you're exactly right. You talk I mean,

577
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: the Shed injury was just so crushing, and you know,

578
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: it's one of those things where you don't want to

579
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 3: diminish Duke winning that game, but Houston's up six. I

580
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 3: don't want to say they were in complete control by

581
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Speaker 3: any stretch, but once he like like, I actually think

582
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Speaker 3: it was the opposite. I think the fact that Houston

583
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 3: was in that game late is like a wild estimate

584
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: to them. That they were even competitive in that game

585
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: doesn't change the fact though that it is just it

586
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: is a very advantageous path.

587
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Speaker 2: It was the men against boys when you were talking

588
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: about Houston against Duke because of the youth of Duke

589
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: and the veteran nature of that Houston team. But you're

590
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: right on the play previous, Shed just stole a pass

591
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: and broke away and scored, and Houston seemed to be

592
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: to be off and running, and it just it ended

593
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: up changing in a heartbeat. The other thing about this

594
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: NC State duke matchup in the or the ACC tournament

595
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: earrant that is interesting is we've seen Purdue in Tennessee

596
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: play earlier. Yes, we saw Alabama and Clemson play earlier.

597
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: It was even noted on the TV broadcast Steve Lapis

598
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: was saying that Rick Barnes was saying, it's easier to

599
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: correct your mistakes. I'm going to ask you that when

600
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: when you're the team making those mistakes against that team earlier. Now,

601
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's better to have lost or

602
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: have won. Clemson beat Alabama in the acc SEC Challenge,

603
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: Alabama gets revenge yesterday, Purdue ends up winning and winning again.

604
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Speaker 3: I mean, Brad Underwood said you caused nothing we haven't

605
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: seen in the Big Ten. So they apparently saw Yukon

606
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: twenty times over the course of the season.

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Speaker 6: So well, you know, that's another one that's a.

608
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: Perfect I think that the Big Ten showed well in

609
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: the tournament, but yeah, to say that, did you see

610
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: that quote?

611
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 6: I didn't not.

612
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: John Fanta, who covers the Big East, was at the

613
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Speaker 3: media day, and I haven't seen video, but let's just

614
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: say in Yukon circles, it's certainly basically what he said was, look,

615
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 3: we respect that program that Dan Hurley has built, but

616
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: it's nothing we haven't seen in the Big I did.

617
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Speaker 2: I saw another Underwood comment when somebody asked him if

618
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Speaker 2: he felt like this helped turn the corner of the program,

619
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Speaker 2: and he gave a complete an answer that you would

620
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Speaker 2: expect to give after you just lost in the Elite eight.

621
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Speaker 2: Like there wasn't a lot of perspective with it. Could

622
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Speaker 2: have handled it better, But I'll get to that in

623
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Speaker 2: a second. Just the point I was gonna make with this, Aaron,

624
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: is this NC State team that Duke is trying to

625
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: bounce back from is this same NC State team? Because

626
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: you could argue that maybe Perdue wasn't the same team

627
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: that Tennessee faced or vice versa because they played so

628
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: early in the season. I think Clemson and Alabama played

629
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: nowither late November, early December, so we're talking about months away.

630
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: This was weeks away. This was actually part of the run.

631
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: Like Duke is a part of the NC State run,

632
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: whether it ends here or continues to go, Duke is

633
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: still a part of this miraculous run by NC State.

634
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: So it's not like this NC State team is necessarily

635
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: different than maybe a team that you played three or

636
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: four months ago. And I think that actually helps Duke

637
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: in the scenario. Is NC State is the team that

638
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: continues to be on this run, So they're going to

639
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: be the same team getting the production that they are getting.

640
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was interesting with the Purdue stuff.

641
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think you can even argue Tennessee

642
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: is a better team today than when they played in November.

643
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: Gonzag is a better team than they play in November,

644
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: and so it's a credit to them beating two teams

645
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: who already faced I know we're focused on this late

646
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: game as Duke does have a seven point lead, as

647
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: you just said, but it is a testament to Purdue

648
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: to go.

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Speaker 6: I saw something trending on Twitter cracked me out.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, all right, well, I'll tell you what trending

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Speaker 2: right now is Manzi blagya. She's going to give us

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Speaker 2: the latest of what is happening. Is we are allowed

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Speaker 2: from the Tirec dot com studios. All right, Mansey, what's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 7: I did not have her due winning, but you know

656
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Speaker 7: that's beside the point. They punched their ticket to the

657
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Speaker 7: Final four for the first time since nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 6: They were joined nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: Monci, I don't even think I was.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, my parents were in Costa Rica and they

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Speaker 7: had my brother who.

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Speaker 1: Was just turning one year old.

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Speaker 6: Yes, my parents weren't even together in nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my parents were in cost Rico with my brother.

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Speaker 2: I was a little bit, well, the only one here

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Speaker 2: that was alive in nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: Just don't say that.

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Speaker 3: I think Steve Hartman was actually at the nineteen eighty

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Speaker 3: final four. One he seriously was. He told me like

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Speaker 3: seven different stories about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he did, and yeah, sure that makes it.

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Speaker 6: I was three, so I don't remember the nineteen eighty

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Speaker 6: final four. The department was professional, just pacing back and forth.

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Speaker 1: Yes he was at that time. Yeah, what hasn't that

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Speaker 1: man done?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 7: But yes, per due punching their ticket to the final four,

678
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Speaker 7: and we're gonna see who punches the next ticket. Between

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Speaker 7: eleven seed NC State and four seed Duke Duke on

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Speaker 7: top twenty one to fourteen, seven minutes to go in

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Speaker 7: the first half. On the ladies' side, South Carolina still

682
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Speaker 7: hasn't lost thirty six and oh they're headed to the

683
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Speaker 7: Final four and NC State on the ladies side, is

684
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Speaker 7: headed to the Final four. That must be so exciting

685
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Speaker 7: for the school, right, like for the fans for the

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Speaker 7: what back, Yeah, that both the ladies and the men

687
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Speaker 7: are competing to do with.

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Speaker 1: Your cheer squads, Oh my god, that's such a good

689
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Speaker 1: question they have. Do they have individual for the movie

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Speaker 1: and then, like you.

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Speaker 2: Split or do they have just dedicated ones for the

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Speaker 2: men's basketball and the women's Because that's the case as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to look into that. That is a great,

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Speaker 1: great question.

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Speaker 3: If only there was another team with two teams in

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Speaker 3: the Elite eight that also played yesterday that do you

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Speaker 3: know the answer?

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Speaker 6: It's University Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: No, do you know the answer with the cheer happen

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Speaker 1: with the.

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Speaker 3: Cheerleaders, Yeah, Usually they have a split squad bands. I'm

702
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Speaker 3: a little confused on and administrators, the fat cats upstairs.

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Speaker 6: They just fly back and forth.

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Speaker 3: No, I will say, like I did talk to some

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Speaker 3: Yukon people like they like the like the alumni groups

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Speaker 3: that run all the events. You know, you got to

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Speaker 3: split up, send half here, half there and it'll be

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Speaker 3: the same. By the way, if you know, if both

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Speaker 3: teams events to the final four as well some I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's happened for U combos.

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Speaker 7: I know you briefly mentioned it, but did you talk

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Speaker 7: about the three point line?

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Speaker 1: Dan on the yes? Yeah? What is you have one job?

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Speaker 7: How can the three point line be different on both

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Speaker 7: on the ends of the courts between this NC State

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Speaker 7: for the Ladies game against Texas. That was just ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: And they had a statement. The NCAA came out and

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Speaker 7: so that the coaches were made aware. The coaches still

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Speaker 7: decided to play instead of delaying the game and you know,

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Speaker 7: fixing it, which I understand, but that's so dumb.

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Speaker 1: One game going on in the NBA.

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Speaker 7: Nuggets all over the Cavaliers one fourteen to ninety two,

723
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Speaker 7: four minutes to go in the game.

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Speaker 1: Nicola Jokic another triple double. No surprise there.

725
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Speaker 7: In Major League Baseball, the a'ser beating the Guardians three zero,

726
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Speaker 7: top of the seventh Inny, while the Rots the Red

727
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Speaker 7: Sox have taken the lead over the Mariners in Seattle

728
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Speaker 7: four to one, top of the sixth inning. The Diamondbacks

729
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Speaker 7: up on the Rockies three to one, bottom of the fifth.

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Speaker 7: The Padres have twelve runs in three innings.

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Speaker 1: Padres all over the Giants twelve to two.

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Speaker 7: It's the top of the fourth inning, and the Yankees

733
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Speaker 7: completed a four game sweep off the Astros in YEP

734
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Speaker 7: In Houston, they came out on top four to three.

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Speaker 7: Juan Soto with the RBI single in the ninth to

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Speaker 7: give New York.

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Speaker 1: The leadenough to say Juan.

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Speaker 2: So then she goes what like shelf to get the mike.

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Speaker 1: It really is.

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Speaker 7: So when I see a Spanish name, I do, like,

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Speaker 7: you know, kind of good likeria just so I don't know,

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Speaker 7: it just happens.

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Speaker 1: It just happens.

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Speaker 2: It's all good. Inness hit her up at Monte by

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Speaker 2: the way. She's got something on her mind and she's

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Speaker 2: gonna let us know about it in about seven minutes

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Speaker 2: or so.

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Speaker 6: He's erin Torres.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Bayer, according to Manci, next year on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 8: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot

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Speaker 8: com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live.

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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Sunday. He's erin Torres.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan byer Duke a NC state fighting for the

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Speaker 2: final spot in the Final four. Blue Devil's up twenty three,

757
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Speaker 2: eighteen four to fifteen to go until halftime. Produe punched

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Speaker 2: their ticket earlier with the win over Tennessee. Of course,

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00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: Yukon and Alabama already making plans for Glendale, while they

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Speaker 2: will face off in a national semifinal on Saturday one

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Speaker 2: that erin Torres will be uh will be ats. I'll

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Speaker 2: be there, yes, and you'll be staying there through the

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Speaker 2: extended weekend as well. Hit Aaron up at Aaron Underscore Tors.

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Speaker 2: You can find me at dan Byer on Fox. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to why we don't hate Duke like many

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Speaker 2: others do. But first it's that time, Corin, and now.

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Speaker 8: It's time for absolutely According to Monci, I love it.

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Speaker 10: Hello, Mancy, Oh yeah, a lot of According to Monte Corton, Monty,

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Speaker 10: Caitlyn Clark not the only player of the WNBA needs.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Listen, Kaitlyn Clark is the real deal.

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Speaker 7: Whether you like her or not, she does have the

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Speaker 7: most pressure on her shoulders to bring her game, her hype,

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Speaker 7: her lovers, haters, all of them to the pro level.

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Speaker 7: But people love drama, We love controversy. The w NBA

775
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 7: doesn't have any major rivalries, any storylines that fans follow.

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00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 7: There's really no drama between players in the NBA.

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00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: Fans want to see what Dylan Brooks is gonna do against.

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Speaker 7: Lebron James the next time that they play each other,

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Speaker 7: or what's gonna happen when Chris Paul has to play

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Speaker 7: a game that's you know, ref by Scott Foster. These

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Speaker 7: are all storylines we like to follow. Incomes Angel Reeks.

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Speaker 7: This lsu Iowa Lark versus Reese drama is exactly what

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Speaker 7: the WNBA needs, a college rivalry like Larry Bird and

784
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Speaker 7: Magic Johnson that continued into the pros. Both recent Clark

785
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Speaker 7: have said that there is no drama between them off

786
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Speaker 7: the court, but who really believes that. I'm not saying

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Speaker 7: that they hate each other, but I bet that the

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Speaker 7: other is secretly hoping that the other one falls on

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Speaker 7: her face and.

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Speaker 1: Braces her nose.

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Speaker 6: They said they both like each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't believe that there's no way at goal.

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Speaker 7: I'm not saying they hate each other, but I'm saying

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Speaker 7: they hope the other one falls on their face and breaks.

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Speaker 1: Now it's one one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I don't love the Magic and Bird comparison because I

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Speaker 2: think it's it's different. I also think that that Angel

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Speaker 2: Reese uh entered into the conversation because of Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: mocking like I felt, yes, Bird and Magic were on

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Speaker 2: their own, on their own planes and Reese, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, I just necessarily disagree with you on that, But

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00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 7: here we are. It is a thing now and now

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Speaker 7: they're going to see each other again, a rematch from

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Speaker 7: last year. It's just imagine if this kept going to

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Speaker 7: the WNBA.

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00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: They both have fans and haters who.

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Speaker 7: Love arguing with each other on social media. This, honestly,

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Speaker 7: I think is a perfect recipe for the WNBA. But

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00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 7: Agel Reese is not declared for the draft yet, so

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Speaker 7: it might not happen.

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Speaker 1: But it's just what they need. Drama, rivalries, storylines.

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Speaker 3: I say, I agree, it would be incredible if they

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Speaker 3: could bring a lot of that audience to the WNBA.

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Speaker 3: But enough about Kaitlyn Clark because of quartering to Monci

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Speaker 3: carry to Manzi. It's about damn time somebody does something

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00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: about Draymond Green.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what do we do?

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Speaker 7: I don't understand how the Warriors continue to act like

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Speaker 7: they're okay with Draymond Green throwing tantrums and acting like

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Speaker 7: a child. The Warriors have nine regular season games left,

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Speaker 7: holding onto the last playing spot in the West, just

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Speaker 7: one game ahead of the Rockets, who have won eleven

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Speaker 7: in a row. It's not just crunch time for the

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Speaker 7: Golden State Warriors. It's do or die for them, and

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Speaker 7: Draymond does not care. He got thrown out four minutes

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Speaker 7: into the game against the Magic for continuing to talk

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Speaker 7: smack after receiving a technical from making contact with an official,

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Speaker 7: just to grow as man, continuing to bitch and complain.

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Speaker 7: But yet, Kaylin Clark and Cameron brinkneed to do better

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Speaker 7: on the floor. I digress. That's a separate conversation. Fine,

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Speaker 7: Steph Curry was visibly upset with this when this happened,

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Speaker 7: understandably so to me, this is the turning point with Draymond.

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Speaker 7: When we saw Steph react like this, you can't defend

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Speaker 7: him anymore. He's making a mockery of the game, going

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Speaker 7: on his podcast and saying, well, we already know he's

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Speaker 7: disrespecting his teammates day in and day out, on and

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Speaker 7: off the court. It's about dantime. That's Steph, not not Steph.

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Speaker 7: Steve Kerr puts on his big boy pants and actually

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Speaker 7: does something about it.

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Speaker 1: With all the drama that Green has created this season,

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Speaker 1: how has.

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Speaker 7: Kerr not benched him despite his stupid behavior.

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Speaker 1: The Warriors are still in the playoff picture. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine if they were actually peaceful, an organized team if

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Speaker 1: they would have won just.

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Speaker 7: Five more games, just five, they could be six in

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Speaker 7: the Western Conference.

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Speaker 1: Green is destroying the Warriors.

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Speaker 7: He's embarrassing Curry, who is still a face of the NBA,

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Speaker 7: and Kurt doesn't have the balls to just bench Green.

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Speaker 2: It's according to Manzi. But I gotta interrupt here. According

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Speaker 2: to Months, I guess I can't all right, go ahead, Patrick. Accordingly,

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Speaker 2: according to Manzi, don't give a start time if you

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Speaker 2: don't intend spawn a.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know. We give our opinions too, area. We

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Speaker 6: don't all right, day ahead today.

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Speaker 10: According to MONSI don't give a start time if you

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Speaker 10: don't intend to start at that time.

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Speaker 1: Like, is this how movies are?

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Speaker 7: I just went to the movies last night, actual, which

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Speaker 7: I hadn't gone a long time. I bought a ticket

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Speaker 7: for a movie that started at six fifty. Why did

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Speaker 7: it start twenty five minutes later? I could have been

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Speaker 7: watching Alabama Clemson, but no, I sat in my seat

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Speaker 7: at six fifty.

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Speaker 1: Guys at seven.

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Speaker 7: The previews started at seven fifteen, the movie started.

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00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: I was so upset. Is this normal?

869
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: You're apple watch off during the movie. No, you can't

870
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: see what time it.

871
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: Is, But that's what I'm saying it said six fifty start.

872
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 7: Why are you telling me the movie starts at six

873
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 7: fifty and you're gonna start at seven to fifteen.

874
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 6: I saw this.

875
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: I definitely thought it was like a ten to fifty

876
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: two NCAA tournament game.

877
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 7: Start no, No, twenty five minutes after the start time.

878
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: I'm the guy who goes, maybe the concert will start

879
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: at eight pm? Like that is who I am. So

880
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: we better be there at seven point thirty when no

881
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: one is even playing, not even the opening game.

882
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 7: I think this concert is different from a movie.

883
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm mine a ticket for six fifty eight. Start the movie?

884
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 6: What movie? Did you see the trailers?

885
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: Late night with the Devil?

886
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 6: Oh? All right, I have that's gonna be neat with

887
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 6: produca candidate? Yeah, back ended? All right? Do we have

888
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 6: a back end of this?

889
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 4: I don't know.

890
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 8: No, we don't according tell me.

891
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 6: All right?

892
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: There it hit her up at Bonzi Miladio's Duke of

893
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: seven two twenty nine left to go on the first

894
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: half on nc State, he's aeron Torres.

895
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 6: I'm dan Byer while we don't hate duke.

896
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: Next on Fox, there's something happening in the NCAA tournament

897
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: that I don't know if you realize it or not,

898
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: but it is happening. He's Aaron Tauris, I'm Dan Byer.

899
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903
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Speaker 2: buying should be. We're gonna get into the hate versus

904
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: not hating Duke, and both Aaron and I are on

905
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: the side of not hating Duke, but there's different reasons

906
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 2: for it. Not that we're Duke fans by any means,

907
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: but I almost feel like we're in the minority of

908
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: people who aren't Duke fans that don't have this hate

909
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: and this just biased angst towards the Blue Devils, because

910
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: I just see it a lot more so than any

911
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: other programming college basketball, and I don't even think it's close.

912
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: It is like there, it seems to be like a

913
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: common thread where if you don't love Duke, then you

914
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: must hate Duke. But I think we're going to try

915
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: to bring it into the scenario where that's not exactly

916
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: the case.

917
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be curious for your perspective. I just know

918
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: where I stand. But it is amazing.

919
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 6: I'll tell you this.

920
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: And I know we want to get back into the topic,

921
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 3: but the number of fan bases that truly despise Duke

922
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: is unbelievable. It's it's you know, everyone knows UNC and

923
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: NC State, all these ACC teams. I tell this story

924
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: all the time. There was a poll done when I

925
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: lived in Connecticut on Connecticut sports talk radio. Who is

926
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: the number one most hated villain of Connecticut sports fans?

927
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: It was Duke because in nineteen ninety Christian Laitner hit

928
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: a buzzer beer that would have sent Yukon to the

929
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,959
Speaker 3: Final four in nineteen ninety, so thirty whatever years ago,

930
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: Arizona fans hate Duke because they think they got a

931
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: weird a couple of weird calls in the two thousand

932
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: and one championship game that gave Duke a title. I

933
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: was at the Arkansas Duke game in Arkansas this year.

934
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: I don't think Duke fans even consider them that even

935
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: know about it. But Arkansas fans were like ninety four

936
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: National chance. So the point I'm trying to make it's a.

937
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: Lot of people, and yeah, Arkansas wins that game, and

938
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: they still hate Duke. Wisconsin fans hate Duke from twenty

939
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 2: fifteen and Coach K's halftime interview, which, by the way,

940
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: he never did halftime interviews. He would always pass it

941
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 2: off too shire, pass it off to some other assistant

942
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: and be like, you talk to them. And then at

943
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: the Final four, it's like Coach K while they're calling

944
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: a lot of fouls and what do you know, next

945
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: thing you know, Duke an hour later is cutting down

946
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: the nets. In Wisconsin, fans are like, what, so, I've

947
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 2: got NC State, North Carolina, Yukon, Arizona, Arkansas, Wisconsin.

948
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: I don't even mention Kentucky because that was going to

949
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: be dumping on the guy's chest.

950
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: Yep, the episode, Kentucky is all on the list of

951
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: Duke haters. But we're going to get to why we

952
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: don't hate Duke in a second. Here's just the point

953
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: that I quickly want to make you heard MANCI tell

954
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: you South Carolina and NC State have punch their tickets

955
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: to the final four in the women's bracket tomorrow. Iowa

956
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: ls he was going to go, and USC or Yukon's

957
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 2: going to go, doesn't matter who wins in those You've

958
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: got two marquee programs that are going to be going

959
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: to the NCAA Tournament and areay have the unbeaten team

960
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: in South Carolina. So darn near perfection by the women's

961
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: Committee and the women's tournament to get a final four

962
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: that you would love to see. And I think, Aaron,

963
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: there are people that are going to say, why can't they?

964
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, this is why, this is why the women's

965
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: game is more popular because of what's happening in the

966
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: men's game. If Duke wins this game against NC State,

967
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: name me a better final four, right that you could

968
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: get of Yukon, Purdue, the number one seed Duke, make

969
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: it Duke or Kentucky could have been interchangeable. Maybe you

970
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: have North Carolina or Arizona instead of Alabama. But three

971
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: out of four ain't bad if Duke ends up winning this,

972
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: So it's going to be a really really good final four.

973
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: Now what I'm curious about, and again, game is not

974
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: over yet. NC State could come back, but it's just

975
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: the point of of you know, is it possible to

976
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: even get that general interest back in college basket? Because

977
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: next weekend would be a really, really good one, and

978
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't even think people realize that it could have

979
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: been almost best case scenario for the men's tournaments.

980
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: I want to give you credit because you have a

981
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: skill that I was not aware of. You can see

982
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: into the future because I have this tweet in my

983
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 3: headlined up. Because I'm a guy that always has to

984
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: defend men's college hoops. I get told how awful it is,

985
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: how bad the product is, how the women's game has

986
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: surpassed them, how these kits shouldn't even have to go

987
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: to college period. And I feel like, you know me

988
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: and Doug Gottlie, you love the sport, so it's a

989
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: little bit different. But I feel like I'm always defending

990
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: this sport. And it's like, I remember last year. If

991
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: you remember last year, were you and I hosting the

992
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: Elite eight show? Because I was on air during the

993
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: Texas Miami Elite eight game.

994
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know if I was. I

995
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 6: don't think that I was.

996
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: On air, but I bring it up because if you

997
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: remember last year, the final four was ukon Miami, San

998
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: Diego State, and Florida Atlantic, and there were first of

999
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: all based on the seating it was one of the

1000
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: lowest seeded final fours ever.

1001
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 6: Ticket prices plummeted.

1002
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: But and all I heard all week the worst final

1003
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: four fore bah blah, and it's like, remember Texas had

1004
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 3: a lead at halftime against Miami.

1005
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 6: Texas was I believe a two seed?

1006
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: The Final four was in Houston, and I was like,

1007
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: all we needed was one result to go different, for

1008
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: it to go from the lowest ticket prices in the

1009
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 3: history of the Final four to the highest ticket prices

1010
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: in the history of the Final four. And so again.

1011
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: If Duke holds on, I just don't think anybody has

1012
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 3: a leg to stand on. Two huge brands. National Player

1013
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 3: of the Year. I know Alabama doesn't resonate nationally, but

1014
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: one it's a fun style play too. I do believe

1015
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: as somebody who does follow the sport three hundred sixty

1016
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: five days a year, I think Natots is a rising

1017
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: star in this business. This isn't a one off. Oh

1018
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: you know South Carolina when they made it with Frank Martin.

1019
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 6: It's like, no.

1020
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: Natoates has won two SEC regular season titles, two SEC

1021
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: tournament titles, now in a final four, three second weekends

1022
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: in five years of the head coach he is a

1023
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 3: rising star in this business. So even the if Duke wins,

1024
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 3: even the surprise team, I think is a very fun

1025
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 3: and interesting story.

1026
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: I think the game against you kind will be a

1027
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: lot of fun just to to see that style. We

1028
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: could see a lot of points. It'll be fun to

1029
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: watch on Saturday in Arizona. That's the only thing about

1030
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: it is the locales of the schools sure that are

1031
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 2: making the trip.

1032
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 6: It's a truck for everybody. Well, can I jump in

1033
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 6: on that really quick?

1034
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe how many Yukon fans texted me this

1035
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: week or that today. This morning I woke up to

1036
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: him because I work late on Sare's how are you

1037
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: going to the Final Four? And I will say, I

1038
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: don't want to make my fan base sound arrogant, but

1039
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: I think Yukon fans realized pretty good that they were early.

1040
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people wanted to go last year,

1041
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: but the run was so surprising they didn't make it.

1042
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: Not saying there won't be a lot of Duke fans,

1043
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm sure there will be a lot of Purdue fans.

1044
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: Felt like there were a lot of Yukon fans that

1045
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: maybe discreetly booked their travel a month or so ago

1046
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 3: and maybe didn't tell anybody until it became official. And

1047
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: by the way, you know, the pathway was always going

1048
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: to be Brooklyn to Boston for them, So I think

1049
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: there will it'll be cool. You've been to final fours,

1050
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: you know that sometimes you can get corporate local. You know,

1051
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: people in the community can come. I think we're gonna

1052
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: have a ton of Purdue fans once in a lifetime

1053
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: for them. Duke has a national brand. I think Yukon's

1054
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 3: gonna bring a lot of people. I think Bam is

1055
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: gonna bring a.

1056
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: Lot of people.

1057
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just say this, And I heard Steve Hartman

1058
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: and our show prior say if there's one thing that

1059
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: you gotta do, you got to go to a Final four.

1060
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: And I actually disagree with that because the court in

1061
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: the middle thing is just nobody wins. Nobody wins. Absolutely

1062
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: nobody wins. And this is something that's going on forever.

1063
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: I was there the first year that they did it

1064
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine at Ford Field in Detroit.

1065
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: When you have sixty to seventy thousand, it's just even

1066
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: the good seats aren't that good. Aeron Jerres that's the

1067
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: troublesome portion of it. And Saturday is much better than

1068
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: Monday when you're at the event because you've got a

1069
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: Friday's probably the best day, to be honest, because everybody's

1070
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: in town. You know the games on the rise, and

1071
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: you go check out. The practice is you have a

1072
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: good time and celebrate and do all that games on Saturday.

1073
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: There is a bit of a letdown after the game

1074
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: because half everybody exits, and then you just have the

1075
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: Monday game. But I'm not discouraging you from going to

1076
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: the final four. I just would say, and I'm not

1077
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: talking about you, I'm talking to the listener because Steve

1078
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: Hartbin said you have to go to a final four.

1079
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: I just think that your expectations, Like I think, like

1080
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: golf fans and sports fans, you have to go to

1081
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: the Masters. I don't gara about you overpay. You have

1082
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: to go. You have to see it, especially if you're

1083
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 2: a golf fan. If you're a college basketball die hard,

1084
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: sure absolutely get it.

1085
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 6: But I don't know if it's a must do well.

1086
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 6: It's funny.

1087
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 3: And the other thing too is and this is gonna

1088
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: get gonna get super nerdy. But we hear this all

1089
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: the time with the Super Bowl is good host cities

1090
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: and bad host cities. And Indianapolis is actually a great

1091
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 3: host city. Everything's right in the downtown area. New Orleans

1092
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 3: a few years ago is a great host city. Arizona

1093
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: and the Phoenix area is no great. And that's the

1094
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: other thing too, is you know, you go to a

1095
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 3: Final four, you want to do the events kind of

1096
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: around the games, and the stadium is forty five minutes

1097
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: from Scottsdale, Phoenix, Tempe, that little try area right there.

1098
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I would say, like, if your team's in

1099
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 3: it and it's gonna be a cool thing, I absolutely

1100
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: encourage it. I don't want to say it's not a

1101
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: bucket list thing, but I would say this, if you're

1102
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: gonna go, make sure it's a city that you want

1103
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: to go to. Right If you just want to get

1104
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: away to Phoenix because you live in Wisconsin or Connecticut

1105
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: or indian or wherever and just get away for a weekend,

1106
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 3: that's a great reason to go. If you just want

1107
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: to go to New Orleans around something, make it the

1108
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: Final Four. But yeah, I'm kind of with you if

1109
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: you just say, hey, I'm going to the Final Four

1110
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: this year and it's in Houston, and you get Florida Atlantic,

1111
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: San Diego State, it's not gonna be as fun as

1112
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: you get.

1113
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: You get VCU Butler ukon of Connecticut Final four A

1114
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: A as I that was a I just remember and

1115
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: our media seats were on the moon easy when.

1116
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: You and I were at the college football National Championship

1117
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: Game stadium, it's adult.

1118
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: We were in a press box. This one, we were

1119
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: in the actual seats that they turned into pressed and

1120
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: had to be subjected to the elements. All right, why

1121
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: why do you not hate Duke?

1122
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: I will say, I think they're imminently less hateable without

1123
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 3: coach K. And you brought up the point of the

1124
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen National Championship Game where he did a halftime

1125
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: interview complain about the refs. I think when Coach K

1126
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: was there, Listen, there's no tangible way to prove it,

1127
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: but I think, you know, he's a legend of the game,

1128
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 3: the way that Lebron gets calls, where that Kobe got calls,

1129
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 3: the way that whatever. I think there was a belief

1130
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: that Duke got calls without and Coach K. You know, listen,

1131
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: he's an all time great, but you know he kind

1132
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: of had that arrogant smugness to him. He kind of

1133
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: like he was talking down to you. It felt like

1134
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: sometimes as a fan where I just don't think enough

1135
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: people know about John Shire. And I think there was

1136
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: a little bit of the Filipowski stuff earlier this year

1137
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: with the with the you know, the court storming and

1138
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 3: oh this is we have to ban court storming. And

1139
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: then you know he's he's being carried off by three teammates.

1140
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 3: And then a day later it's like he's dunking from

1141
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 3: the foul line in the next game. So I think

1142
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 3: maybe that started. I just can't like John Shire, just

1143
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: I can't get fired up rudy against the guy. I mean,

1144
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: he's young, he's humble, he does his own halftime interviews.

1145
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: You know, it seems like a good guy. But I'll

1146
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: tell you what, And Jay Martin and I talked about

1147
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 3: this a little bit last night. I think for the

1148
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: sport of college basketball, Yukon winning a second straight national

1149
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: championship is good because now Yukon is the unquestioned program

1150
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: going forward, and Dan Hurley kind of has that chip

1151
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: on their shoulder.

1152
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 6: Either like him or you don't.

1153
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 3: But I think Duke potentially winning it, and it would

1154
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: be good for the sport too, because then all those

1155
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: fan bases that we met at Kentucky, Carolina, Yukon, NC State, Wisconsin,

1156
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: et cetera. Now they just sit around and they kind

1157
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: of smack their head and say, oh crap, we're in

1158
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 3: for another thirty years of this thing. They got all

1159
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 3: the good players, This coach knows what he's doing, and

1160
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: you know, we were hoping that Shire was going to

1161
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 3: be a disaster and we could laugh in their face.

1162
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 6: Here we are in year two.

1163
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: If you were to win a national championship, even to

1164
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 3: get to a final four, I think would be good

1165
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 3: for the sport.

1166
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: It's interesting when you talk about moving forward in what

1167
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: Duke could do because the Philipowski Wake Forest scenario or incident,

1168
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: however you want to put it. I would say that

1169
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: actually gave a face to who Duke agreed. I don't

1170
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: think that they had that face. And now all of

1171
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: a sudden you're saying, wait, a Duke person is crying

1172
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: and maybe faking an injury.

1173
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that he was faking, but.

1174
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: That was the narrative that was out there, and you're like, oh,

1175
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: typical Dukes. That's Duke for you. The other thing that

1176
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: the momentum could be good for college basketball, and we'll

1177
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: have more of a Yukon conversation in a bit, is

1178
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: when you look at that recruiting class, including the number

1179
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: one overall recruit in the class of twenty twenty four

1180
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: that's coming in next year, Cooper flag Duke's. Duke's presence

1181
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: in notoriety with their freshmen that are coming in will

1182
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: be much bigger next year. You're gonna know that faces,

1183
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: You're gonna know the names on Duke, and I think

1184
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: that will also make them different. Again, they have to

1185
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: get through this second half against NC State and then

1186
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: who knows what happens in the national semi final, but

1187
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: to have that brand, yeah.

1188
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 6: I think it would be good for college basketball.

1189
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: You And this is the conversation that we've had for

1190
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 3: the last month, is the recognizability in the women's game

1191
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 3: of Caitlin Clark right now. And I've actually argued kind

1192
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 3: of the counter is, I think, you know, the women's

1193
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: game I think is truly being elevated by Kaitlyn Clark.

1194
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: But how much of that audience can they retain when

1195
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: she leaves? But to their credit, they built a star,

1196
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: as Monzi brought up last hour, Angel Reese is a

1197
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: recognizable star, and I think I don't think it's an

1198
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 3: exaggeration to say.

1199
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Speaker 6: I think the two most if you want to use the.

1200
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: Word polarizing college basketball coaches right now, are Don Staley

1201
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 3: and Kim Moulki. And I think that's a great thing

1202
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: for the women's game. I just don't think we know

1203
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: enough about Dan Hurley, Kyle you know, yeah.

1204
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I agree with that.

1205
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 4: I think no.

1206
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: I think that coaches play a role in it, and

1207
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: it always has and I think that's been a big

1208
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: part of it. When I look at Caitlyn Clark, it's

1209
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: where Caitlyn Clark is shooting from. Sure, that's why when

1210
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: I bring up like the logo that they put on

1211
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: the court of when she set the record, like it's

1212
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 2: amazing when you think about, like, that's where she's shooting from.

1213
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: Where the men's game right now, the best player in

1214
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: the country is seven to three and takes his shots

1215
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: either from the free throw line or a foot away

1216
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: from the basket, like and it's just and that is

1217
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: not what we what we love and that's not what

1218
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: we're into in basketball right now. It's the Steph Curry

1219
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: and that's okay. That it is.

1220
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 6: If there was a player like Caitlin Clark in the

1221
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 6: men's game hunter for Trey Young. Remember how big everyone

1222
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 6: made Trey Young.

1223
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 3: Yes, And it was like and in he honestly by

1224
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 3: the end of the year, like, I don't have the

1225
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: stats in front of me.

1226
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 6: This isn't like a rip trade.

1227
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: But they lost like eight of their last ten games,

1228
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 3: and I think he kind of bought into the and

1229
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: it was like, yeah, and there was I remember there

1230
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: was one time, like I was watching a game on

1231
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: ESPN two and they had a Trey Young tracker What

1232
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: is he right now? And it's like, but I do think, yes,

1233
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 3: I agree with that. If if Zach Edy was six

1234
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: foot three, shoot, you know, I'm using six foot three

1235
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 3: because that's like a Steph Curry size six foot three

1236
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: shooting from where Kaitlin Clark shoots maybe the maybe the

1237
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: you know, the certainly the biggest star in men's sport.

1238
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 6: Whatever, you get the point.

1239
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's just it's not where the excitement of

1240
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 2: the game is today. And that's I think one of

1241
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: the bigger problems that that that the men's game probably

1242
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: has right now. He's eron Torres. I'm Dan Beyer. I

1243
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 2: will tell you next hour why I don't hate Duke, because.

1244
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 6: They and.

1245
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: They'll either be celebrating and cutting down the nets when

1246
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: we bring it up, or we will just try to

1247
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: soften the blow of Duke blowing a halftime lead. But again,

1248
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: they're up six at the half against NC State in

1249
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:53,000
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1260
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Speaker 2: Duke with a six point lead on end C State

1261
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: three minutes gone by in the second half of their

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1266
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1267
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Speaker 6: U hit him up on ex at Kaplan NFL. Hello Adam, how.

1269
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Speaker 4: Are you guys? I'm well, it's been a while. Could

1270
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Speaker 4: it be back?

1271
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: It has been a little while here there and everywhere,

1272
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: and I Noah, you've been busy as well. Let's a

1273
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 2: variety of things going on as we're less than a

1274
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: month away from the draft. Let's kind of look in

1275
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: that rear view mirror though of what happened this past week.

1276
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: To fill it, Olph, the Eagles finally trade his son,

1277
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: Reddick heaving So to the New York Jets. How did

1278
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: that deal end up shaking out? Since we knew that

1279
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: Reddick had been available for the past few weeks.

1280
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Deigo has been trying to move him. They

1281
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 4: made a decision.

1282
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 5: It's just kind of interesting that the guy's going to

1283
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 5: replace him came over from the Jets and Bryce Hoff

1284
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 5: and they want to get their their first round pick

1285
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 5: from Laster Nolan Smith on the field. They brought back

1286
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 5: Josh Schwett, who will start opposite Huff. Sweat took a

1287
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 5: pay cup, but he's going to beat back. So Eradika

1288
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 5: turns thirty once a new deal. They weren't going to

1289
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 5: get this done, and they knew it had to be.

1290
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 5: He had to be moved because it just was not

1291
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 5: going to work, and they avoided a potential issue in

1292
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 5: training camp in the season where it became a bigger problem.

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Speaker 4: So they moved on. And by the way, I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's terrific.

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00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 5: He had four straight years of double digit sacks, an

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Speaker 5: NFL record, three straight seasons with three different teams with

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Speaker 5: double digit sacks Cardinals, Panthers, then the Eagles in a

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00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 5: first year in twenty two.

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Speaker 4: So really good football player.

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Speaker 5: The Cardinals were involved, a couple of other teams are involved,

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Speaker 5: but the Jets.

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Speaker 4: The Jets are kind of going for it. Guys.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of pressure here on Joe Douglas, the

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00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 5: general manager and Robert saliv the head coach to make

1305
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 5: the playoffs, and they wanted one more piece on defense

1306
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 5: for a defense that's already good. They could certainly use

1307
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 5: another edge rusher opposite Jermaine Johnson, and Re's going to

1308
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 5: be that guy.

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Speaker 4: And that's how it came down, Adam.

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Speaker 6: So I don't want to be, you know, old guy

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Speaker 6: on the lawn here. Uh No. But you know, you

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00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 6: see the Rashi Rice story this morning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we know the.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Carter story from this time last year. We know

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00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 3: you know the tragic story involving Henry Ruggs. One, I

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00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 3: haven't seen any real updates on Rahi Rice. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you have anything. But then two, is this

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00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 3: a topic that the league believes they are Have they

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00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 3: addressed it, do they believe they need to address it?

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Speaker 6: Or are these all isolated incidents?

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Speaker 5: Well they're isolated. But and again we don't know exactly.

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Speaker 5: We know what's been alleged, but we don't know Rice's involvement,

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Speaker 5: if at all. So let's just put that to the side.

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Speaker 5: But in terms of NFL players going back decades car racing,

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Speaker 5: we know what happened in the NBA. You remember the

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01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 5: Bobby Fields incident, which was awful. I remember that being

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01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 5: an NBA guy many years ago. So I think it's

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01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 5: worth looking at Aaron. To be honest with you, I

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01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 5: think it's something that the league has to take a

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Speaker 5: deeper look at. By all counts. By the way Rachie

1331
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 5: Rice off the field, there's been nothing that I'm aware

1332
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 5: of from talking to people have worked with him before

1333
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 5: or did work on the draft last year, and he

1334
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 5: had a terrific rookie season.

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Speaker 4: We'll learn more about it. Another Jalen Carter had.

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Speaker 5: Issues off the field, yes, of what had happened in Georgia,

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01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 5: but maturity had to grow up. The Eagles took a

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01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 5: risk on him and so far it looks good. But

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01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 5: that's a year by year process with him. So no,

1340
01:00:55,360 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 5: it's a fair game to talk about that issue. It's

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01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 5: just overall. I mean, it's not like there have been

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Speaker 5: fifty incidents of car racing illegally, but we've seen in

1343
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 5: professional sports that it's something that the league has to

1344
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 5: take seriously.

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Speaker 2: Adam Kaviln joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's

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Speaker 2: erin Torres.

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Speaker 6: I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Sunday. I know that the NFL wants

1349
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: everybody to be safe on the on the surface. We

1350
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: also know that they don't like kickoffs being kicked off

1351
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: through the back of the end zone. Yeah, so this

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: change of the kickoff rule is pretty drastic. How how

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01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: do they how do they meet in the middle, how

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01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: do they balance to come up with this? I know

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01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,959
Speaker 2: they're taking it from you know what the XFL previously used,

1356
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: But is there a legitimate chance that this sort of

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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: formation ends up staying long term in the NFL?

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01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 5: Sorry, So I was at the owner's meetings this week

1360
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 5: where this this this went down, and I could tell

1361
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 5: you getting their Monday. It wasn't like I was taking

1362
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 5: a poll, but just from talking to people around the league,

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01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 5: I didn't think this was going to get passed for sure.

1364
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 5: I could tell you it didn't look like didn't look

1365
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 5: good money after noon. And I've mentioned this before and

1366
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 5: FSR for the years. When Roger Goodell wants something, he's

1367
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 5: very good at getting people on his side. So within

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01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 5: twenty four hours it was a landslide for this to pass.

1369
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 5: Now it's a drastic rule change, It's going to look

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Speaker 5: really different, it's going to look odd now. The strangest

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Speaker 5: of it is the coverage team is on the plus

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Speaker 5: side of the forty. Yeah, but yet they're not. This

1373
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 5: is the big things. I watched the demonstration from the league.

1374
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 5: They showed us. You know, the players could always the

1375
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 5: def the coverage teams could get a running start before

1376
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 5: not anymore. That's why, Dan, on your point, because the

1377
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 5: thing is the running start was everything, and those high

1378
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,479
Speaker 5: speed collisions. Now they have to wait till the ball

1379
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 5: is caught or if it's dropped it's picked up, then

1380
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 5: they could come downfield.

1381
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 4: So that's that's sort of the give and take of it.

1382
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 5: They are convinced they're gonna be less collisions, less injuries,

1383
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 5: less can ushians, and they're predicting up to a sixty

1384
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 5: percent return rate. This is a NFL history historical low

1385
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 5: of just twenty two percent of kickoffs return Dan, that's

1386
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 5: on your point. It became a boring play that was

1387
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 5: almost extinct, and now they think that's going to be

1388
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 5: out the window. Now, remember this is a one year trial.

1389
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 5: It's not sure for twenty five. It's not in there.

1390
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 5: But this is what I know about. It's my twenty

1391
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 5: fifth year covering the league. They could say that, but

1392
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 5: if it looks great and everybody's loving it, something will

1393
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 5: because something will change. We're not going back to the

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01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 5: same kickoffs. Trust me on that. If this looks good,

1395
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 5: there will bring ly some elements of it. I just

1396
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 5: know the way this is if the fans love it.

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01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 5: Goodell's all about what the fans want. If they love it,

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01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 5: he could be convinced.

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Speaker 2: That's the toughest part about it that I think is

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01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: because it's going to look so different, like yeah, it's.

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01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 6: Just the actual optics of seeing it lined up.

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01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 4: I know.

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01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 6: I think it's going to take the fan a little while.

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01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 4: There to take a while.

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01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 5: And that's what Rich McDon on your point that Rich McKay,

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01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 5: the chairman of the Competition Committee who's the president of

1407
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 5: the Falcons, brought that exactly up. People are gonna have

1408
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 5: to get used to it, but once they see the

1409
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 5: excitement of it, it's like, okay, well, this is the

1410
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 5: cool thing about the old guard in the National Football League.

1411
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 4: They know they have to be more forward thinking.

1412
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 5: Sure, player safety is important, but there are different things

1413
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 5: you could look at. And they took that of from

1414
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 5: the former XFL and by the way, the USFL, or

1415
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 5: actually they called the UFL.

1416
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 4: Now they just started their first weekend.

1417
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: Adam, you know, turning our attention back to the draft

1418
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: obviously under a month away. As Dan just referenced, the

1419
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy narrative, Is there any is this year's Will

1420
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 3: Levis is going number one?

1421
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 6: Or you think there's any validity to him shooting?

1422
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 5: Well that was I shot that down for profable Nework

1423
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 5: shoot this one down too. So what happened last year?

1424
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys are aware of this.

1425
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 5: This is some of the dumbest stuff that I saw

1426
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 5: out there. So my boss is there Pro Football Network

1427
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 5: dot Com said, Hey, is there any truth to this?

1428
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 5: This story about Will Levis has been told that the

1429
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 5: Panthers are taking him. I'm like, that's definitely false. So

1430
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 5: they said, could you check on it just to make sure,

1431
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 5: because what happened is some of the news aggregators what

1432
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 5: they do is they they're not reporters. They just take

1433
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 5: what's out there, sure, and they aggregate it. They put

1434
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 5: it on Twitter or now the former Twitter called x.

1435
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 5: I was like, I'll get this confirmed within ten minutes.

1436
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 5: So high up and the Panther said, no, this is

1437
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 5: He goes. He goes, all we're going to tell you

1438
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 5: is we definitely didn't tell anyone that they're going number one.

1439
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 5: He goes, why would we want to? We want to

1440
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 5: get calls. But look if someone blows us away, you

1441
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 5: got to look at it. But they were going with

1442
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 5: Bryce Young. I'd put that out like a month before that,

1443
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 5: that Bryce Song was going to be the pick, and

1444
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 5: he was now the McCarthy stuff. Here's what I'll tell you.

1445
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 5: This is how I've learned my lesson with quarterbacks. And

1446
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 5: this is no shot at Mark Sanchez. He did go

1447
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 5: to back to back ABC Championship games. Mark Sanchez was

1448
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 5: not a talented pastor. He should have been a second pick.

1449
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 5: So when it comes down to it with JJ McCarthy,

1450
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 5: as I wrote my mock last week for ProFootball Nework

1451
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 5: dot Com, which you could still find there under their

1452
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 5: mock draft area, I mean I wrote that that we

1453
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 5: have people, we have scouting sources that grated him as

1454
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 5: a second, as a midsecond rounder, not even early guys.

1455
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 5: And in my next one, I'm gonna have a little

1456
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 5: bit even more on this in terms of where he

1457
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 5: might go where he should go. It's where will he

1458
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 5: go versus where he should go. Realistically, he's the second

1459
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 5: round talent. The quarterback position is largely overdrafted. The biggest

1460
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 5: one that the one that just and to this day

1461
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 5: I'll never forget it the twenty seventeen draft in Philly.

1462
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 4: So I'm on the air locally doing radio that week.

1463
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 5: I'd been at ESPN doing the NFL Insider Show, and

1464
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 5: I said, my friend Bill Poullion and I were on

1465
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 5: there the Hall of Fame jenneral manager, and Bill and

1466
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 5: I were talking alive on the air, and I said,

1467
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 5: I know this is not gonna be popular, don't shoot

1468
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 5: the messenger, but Mitch Trubisky will go in the top ten.

1469
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 5: And Bill's like this ridiculous. He was a getting man

1470
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 5: at me. He said he didn't agree with it because

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01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 5: the guy didn't start enough at the college level. Little

1472
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 5: did we know that Ryan Pace, the general manager then

1473
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 5: of the Bears, kept it quiet and when they announced

1474
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 5: the trade, remember it never got leaked, we couldn't figure

1475
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 5: it out. We're like, well, who would the Bears trade up?

1476
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 5: For sure, we were dumbfounded. So on your point about

1477
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy, the quarterback position, folks, is always of all

1478
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 5: the positions overdrafted.

1479
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 4: It's just the way it is.

1480
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 5: It'll never change because there's a segment the National Football

1481
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 5: League when you don't have a franchise quarterback, you're always

1482
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 5: going to be looking for one, all Oh the Bears.

1483
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 6: It was such a shock. John Fox didn't even know.

1484
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 5: Well, he found out that like twenty four hours before,

1485
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 5: but Pace kept it quiet.

1486
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 4: Foxy actually talked about that, which is kind of rare.

1487
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 5: By the way, I mean, I give Ryan Pace credit.

1488
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 5: In fact, he probably wish he would have leaked it. Sorry,

1489
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 5: but anyway, you know, and again seeing not as I

1490
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 5: talked to so close to Tarisky about it. If Trubisky

1491
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 5: is the second pick, we're never talking about it. But

1492
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 5: guess what, he made the playoffs the second year in

1493
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen.

1494
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the double doink is all that we think

1495
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 6: of correct against.

1496
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 4: That's a great call, gave a great memory.

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01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: Yep, Adam Kaplan, our NFL insider, thanks so much for

1498
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 2: the time. Adam enjoyed the rest of the madness of March.

1499
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: We we'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 4: That's good. Thanks.

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01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: Hit him up at Kaplin NFL. He's Aeron Torres. I'm

1502
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: Dan Beyer. We got a ballgame in Dallas for the

1503
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: latest of what's going on between NC State and Duke.

1504
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 6: Here's WONCEI Belanios.

1505
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: Yes it is again.

1506
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 7: I don't care who wins, and yet I'm so nervous

1507
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 7: and I'm sweaty, and I don't like it. I got

1508
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 7: the Clipper game on, but let's check in in college hoops,

1509
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 7: Elite eight trying to punch their ticket to the Final four.

1510
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: Four seed Duke with a very.

1511
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 7: Slight lead over eleven seed NC State thirty seven thirty

1512
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 7: six is a score twelve minutes and forty one seconds

1513
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 7: to go in the game. Purdue is officially headed to

1514
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 7: the Final Four for the first.

1515
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: Time since nineteen eighty.

1516
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 7: The number one seed defeated two seed Tennessee seventy two

1517
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 7: to sixty six behind Zach Eaedy, who had forty points

1518
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 7: and sixteen rebounds. In the women's only eight. One seed

1519
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 7: South Carolina's headed to the Final four, and third seed

1520
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 7: NC State is also headed to the Final Four. In

1521
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 7: the NBA, one game already in the books for today,

1522
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 7: and it's the Nuggets. With their win over the Calves,

1523
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 7: they are the first Western Conference to team to clinch

1524
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 7: a spot in the playoffs this year.

1525
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: So they beat the Cavs one thirty to one oh one.

1526
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: But we've got NBA games going on right now.

1527
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 7: Lakers twenty six points compared to the Nets six points,

1528
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 7: three minutes to go in the first quarter. The Clippers

1529
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 7: are beating the Hornets thirty one to twenty five after

1530
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 7: the first quarter, and the Raptors are currently losing at

1531
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 7: home to the seventy six Ers thirty five to twenty one,

1532
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 7: ninety seconds to go in the first and they're about

1533
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 7: to end the first quarter in Washington with the Miami

1534
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 7: Heat on top twenty nine to twenty six. In Major

1535
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 7: League Baseball, a tie game in Oakland between the Guardians

1536
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 7: and the A's.

1537
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: It's three to three bottom of the ninth inning.

1538
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 7: Oakland does have a man on first base and they

1539
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 7: have all three outs. The Red Sox are beating the

1540
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 7: Mariners in Seattle five to one bottom of the eighth inning.

1541
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 7: The Diamondbacks are up on the Rockies five to one

1542
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 7: top of the ninth inning. Still all padres against the Giants,

1543
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 7: even though San Francisco has added a couple runs, but

1544
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 7: San Diego is on top twelve to four bottom of

1545
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 7: the seventh inning. At the Houston Open, Stephen Jaeger wins

1546
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 7: the Houston Open, finishing twelve under two sixty eight one

1547
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 7: stroke over five players, including Scottie Shuffler. So do those

1548
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 7: five players that are tied for second place have to

1549
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 7: share all the money.

1550
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: Well, they take second, third, fourth, fifth, tide. Yeah, they

1551
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: combine it all. So so when you when there's a

1552
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 2: four way tie for second, yeah, the five way tie

1553
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: for second, it takes up second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth.

1554
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: So then the person under that is in seventh, which,

1555
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 2: by the way, if you look at our bracket challenge,

1556
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 2: they do not do it like that. So when you're

1557
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 2: actually in twenty fourth place, says you're in seventh. Yeah,

1558
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: because there's so many times that they'll take the second

1559
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 2: place money, third place money, fourth places like that, combine

1560
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: it all and then they distributed even line.

1561
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: Well, the more you know, yes, ninety.

1562
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: Hey, Manzi's gonna want to stick around because she may

1563
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 2: be needed as a lifeline in this game of easy

1564
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: As one, two three four. NC State's just retaken the

1565
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 2: lead forty to thirty eight. TV timeout could be coming up.

1566
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, some drama in Dallas. Let's get right to

1567
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: our game. Eron Torres easy As one, two three four.

1568
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 2: He's got Patrick Sweeka, Monci Blanio, so Mary Mack as

1569
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:35,480
Speaker 2: his lifelines. Okay, if he needs the categories today college basketball,

1570
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, and the NFL. There's two of one

1571
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: of those categories. I'll let you guess s which the.

1572
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 3: Mary Max my college hoops girl, Manzi's my baseball girl.

1573
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 3: Patrick AMALINOI for the NFL. Al right, Sarry Max's the

1574
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 3: biggest college hoops person. This is where I give you

1575
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 3: a topic. You don't have to give me all the

1576
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 3: correct answers, just some of them. And the goal is

1577
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 3: to get a perfect score of ten. You're over under

1578
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 3: today is eight and a half eron torres? Are you

1579
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 3: ready to play easy as one? Two, three, four?

1580
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 6: I've never been more ready for anything in my life.

1581
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: Name one of two of the most recent schools to

1582
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: make three straight final fours in the men's NCAA tournament.

1583
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 3: One of two to make three straight final four most

1584
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 3: recent thing. Two I'll say UCLA in the two thousand

1585
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 3: and six, seven and eight range.

1586
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 6: Is that your final answer? That is yes?

1587
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: Show me Ucla? There it is, You are correct. The

1588
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 2: other one Michigan State. Oh, I would not have one

1589
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: two thousand, two thousand and one, Mary Mack, Did you

1590
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: know that one?

1591
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 8: No?

1592
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 7: But I'm I'm a few fans, so you know I

1593
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 7: got a good shot.

1594
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: Party for Sparty, all right? Now, on the question number two,

1595
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: name two of three Major League Baseball teams with the

1596
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: highest win totals courtesy of bet MGM entering the season.

1597
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: So obviously there are lines on how many games you're

1598
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: going don't win? According to bet MGM, which three teams

1599
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: at Major League Baseball had the highest win totals entering

1600
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 2: the season.

1601
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 6: I need two of them.

1602
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna bring in Manzi, and I think

1603
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 3: we'll agree. On the Dodgers, I would hope.

1604
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, one. I think the number keeps going up on them.

1605
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 3: So they So the Dodgers. Who are the other good

1606
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 3: teams this year? I would say maybe Atlanta.

1607
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,520
Speaker 7: I was gonna I was gonna guess Atlantakahuh not the Rangers, surprisingly,

1608
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 7: last I read, I don't think they even though they're

1609
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 7: the raigning champs.

1610
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I would go Braves, can I can?

1611
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: I look at who's in the.

1612
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 6: Al just going there we go? Yankees have your boy one.

1613
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 7: I don't know if they were expected to make such

1614
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 7: a big jump.

1615
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 6: Not the Red Sox.

1616
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 2: Hold they're not even try Come on, theres looking up

1617
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 2: the answer, I promise you.

1618
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,759
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just looking at the at the standings.

1619
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the sanding so I can get

1620
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: the names.

1621
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 7: You know what, I really think it's the National League.

1622
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 7: I think you should go. I would go Braves and Dodgers.

1623
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 6: We'll go die Braves. Answer. Show me the LA Dodgers

1624
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 6: one and three and a half.

1625
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: He keeps going up.

1626
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 6: Yes, show me the Atlanta Braves.

1627
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 4: There it is.

1628
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 6: One and a half.

1629
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 2: The other one probably going down the Houston Astros. Ninety

1630
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: two and a half was their win total.

1631
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 7: The next one like behind them too during the season.

1632
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 6: All right, He's like golf, you'll get half of the check.

1633
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 2: If Aaron Torres is a perfect three for three and

1634
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 2: he's got two lifelines left, will he finish off the

1635
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: perfect game or just even hit the over? We'll find

1636
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: out next year on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports Sunday

1637
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: in Dallas. NC State has opened up a five point

1638
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: lead on Duke. They're under the ten minute mark in

1639
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: the second half. NC State nine of twelve from the

1640
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 2: floor in the first half of the second half, and

1641
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 2: the wolf Pack actually have an opportunity to make get

1642
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 2: a six point lead with another free throw, and they

1643
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: do by Ben Middlebrooks. So NC State up on Duke

1644
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,799
Speaker 2: forty four to thirty eight nine five in counting in Dallas.

1645
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: Winner gets Purdue in the national semifinals in the final

1646
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: four coming up on Saturday. He's Eron Torres. I'm Dan Byer.

1647
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: We are smack dab in the middle of a game

1648
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: of easy as one, two, three, four, Aeron Torres. Not

1649
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 2: like Duke who's in a three minute scoring drought. He

1650
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: is three for three right now and as two lifelines,

1651
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: Patrick Sweeka and Mary Mack are there for him. Question

1652
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 2: number three is Aaron is on his quest for a

1653
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: perfect score of ten? This goes to the NFL. Aaron

1654
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 2: named three of four of the most recent players from

1655
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 2: the University of Michigan to be drafted in the top

1656
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: five of the NFL drafts.

1657
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 6: Oh my god, now Aiden Hutchinson's won.

1658
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I just I want to say something the listener

1659
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: as well, in this conview, this game is not out

1660
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: to trick you, Okay. Sometimes there are reasons why certain

1661
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 2: things are are brought up, maybe because they're on the news.

1662
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy is in the sure, but we're not.

1663
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 6: You know.

1664
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: It's not Quity pay who was a first round pick

1665
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 2: but he was not top five. It's not gonna be

1666
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: that type of name, but name three of the four

1667
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: most recent players from Michigan to be drafted in the

1668
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,879
Speaker 2: top five of the NFL drafts.

1669
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 3: Tom Brady was the first rounder. Right now, I'm just kidding,

1670
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 3: I'm candy, I'm kidny.

1671
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 6: That was not an answer. You know, listen, Pat real quick,

1672
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 6: do you have any thoughts and you can say no, hmmm,

1673
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 6: I mean like I was gonna say. Aiden Hutchinson, like

1674
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 6: top five for.

1675
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 3: Shaun Gary was later in the first round. Seauan Gary

1676
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 3: was later in the trying to think of if there

1677
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 3: were any hardball guys. I don't Smith later, well, Massie

1678
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: Smith was later. Good call, you have ten seconds. So

1679
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 3: I don't want to keep the game going because I don't.

1680
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get this.

1681
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 6: I'm I mean, I know we were good, We're good.

1682
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 6: What is the what is the answer? I'm not even interesting? Okay,

1683
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 6: so show me Aiden Hutchinson. There it is. Ok there's

1684
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 6: your fourth point. Jake Long, Oh, that was a eight.

1685
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 4: That was a million.

1686
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 6: Overall pick in the NFL draft. But I was right,

1687
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 6: there was no other hardball guys. Correct.

1688
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 2: Brayln Edwards third overall in two thousand and five and

1689
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 2: Charles Woodson fourth overall in nineteen ninety eight. Those are

1690
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 2: all names that we know. So that's why I was

1691
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 2: trying not to trick anybody, but I in terms of

1692
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: it's crazy to think that Charles Woodson all the way

1693
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: back to nineteen ninety eight is one of the more

1694
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: recent Michigan football players to go in the top five.

1695
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 3: And I guess if I had thought about just the

1696
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 3: biggest names, I mean, I could have obviously gotten Charles Woodson, but.

1697
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 6: I didn't think it went back that long.

1698
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 3: But I also knew Harbaugh never had those super high

1699
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 3: He's had a lot of guys drafted.

1700
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 6: You always look at the draft boards.

1701
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 3: It was eight, nine to ten guys from Michigan, but

1702
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 3: it wasn't those like first round guys, And that was

1703
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 3: a lot of the knock on him as did he

1704
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 3: have those elite of elite players.

1705
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, So you got a point there, So you

1706
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 2: got four. You have an opportunity to finish with eight

1707
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: tier and we end with college basketball era. Name four

1708
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: of five pack twelve schools other than UCLA that have

1709
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:10,520
Speaker 2: multiple Final Four appearances as a member of the league.

1710
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 3: Is men's basketball, right, Yes, Arizona's one. Huh, I'm gonna

1711
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 3: say Oregon. I now is let me ask you a question.

1712
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 3: Is any team that has made the final four in

1713
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 3: a tournament considered a final four team? And I asked

1714
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,759
Speaker 3: that because I don't know if it was officially branded

1715
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 3: the final four in like nineteen thirty nine, for example.

1716
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so in nineteen thirty nine, that would be sufficient. Also,

1717
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: we are talking about various versions of the PAC twelve

1718
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: PAC ten packed eight also work. However, getting to a

1719
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: final four from a different league does does not come. Okay, okay,

1720
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 2: so within the PAC twelve parameters dating back to the

1721
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 2: first tournament in nineteen thirty.

1722
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: So I'm say Arizona, I'm gonna say Oregon. I'm just

1723
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 3: trying to think of who else is in the old

1724
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 3: PAC twelve. No Ucla, right.

1725
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, UCLA's off the board. That was the easy one,

1726
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: the way too easy.

1727
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say cal That a nice little run under

1728
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 3: Pete Newell. If you remember in the fifties sixties, maybe

1729
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,560
Speaker 3: I don't think Oregon State. I don't think Washington. I

1730
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 3: don't think Washington State. I'll say Callen Stanford. Okay, yeah,

1731
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 3: I'll say Callen Stanford.

1732
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 2: All right, show me Arizona Wildcats. Of course, you know

1733
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 2: we know a couple off the top of our head.

1734
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 2: Show me Oregon. Yeah, I made it recently. What twenty

1735
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,759
Speaker 2: seventeen was that the year and time was in Arizona?

1736
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah. And then nineteen thirty nine when they won

1737
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 6: the first ever.

1738
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 3: Like I ran, oh, just like as nineteen thirty nine

1739
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 3: and that was what we call flex, Mary Mack, that's

1740
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 3: what we call it.

1741
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 6: Flex.

1742
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 2: That's what Kyle Philipowski's been doing, but it hasn't been

1743
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: working out as well for him. Show me Cal, show

1744
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 2: me Cow Yes, you're absolutely right. Cal had three appearances,

1745
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 2: and finally show me Stanford.

1746
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 4: There it is.

1747
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 2: Good job as USC was the other us C yes,

1748
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: with two of appearances in the final four.

1749
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 6: Good job. Aaron ears like the sixties, the fifties.

1750
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 5: You know.

1751
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: It's funny because I have I usually keep these windows up.

1752
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: It's okay, And then the window that I had that

1753
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: my information on I ended up closing. But there it

1754
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 2: is your pac twelve eight out of ten. Pretty good

1755
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: for a game of easy as one two three.

1756
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 6: Thanks Jim Harbough.

1757
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 2: He's erin Torres. Hit him up at Aaron Underscore Tours.

1758
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: He can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. NC

1759
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: State has extended their lead now to eight over Duke,

1760
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: forty eight forty eight, nineteen left to go in that

1761
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 2: contest in Dallas.

1762
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 6: He's Aaron. I'm Dan.

1763
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: I will tell you why I don't hate Duke as much,

1764
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 2: and now I won't feel bad about it. That's next year.

1765
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 2: On Fox Sports Radio. All right, we got a dandy

1766
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 2: going on. NC State's missed only five shots this second half.

1767
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: They are taking it to Duke right now, six twenty

1768
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: two left to go in regulation. Aaron, NC State up

1769
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 2: nine on the Blue Devils.

1770
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you know. We open the show

1771
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 3: by me whining about the refereeing in the Tennessee game.

1772
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 3: Kevin keats the NC State coach just got an an

1773
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 3: out of the coaches box technical foul with his team surging.

1774
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 6: So they are they are up by nine.

1775
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 3: But if Duke somehow comes back to win this game,

1776
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 3: that will be a conversation on the social media streets.

1777
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 6: I can promise you that much.

1778
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: That is, considering how many times they could call it

1779
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: and never ever do, to take this opportunity to actually

1780
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: do it and call it is pretty crazy, but NC

1781
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: State right now a ten point lead on Duke in

1782
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,120
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Speaker 6: Now.

1788
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Speaker 2: We were talking earlier on how there's so many people

1789
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: here that are probably rooting against Duke and just sharing

1790
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: as hard as they can for Duke to lose. I

1791
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 2: have no dog in this fight. I don't hate Duke.

1792
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 2: You gave your reasons earlier for why you don't hate Duke.

1793
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you my reason for not being

1794
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm curious, and I think it's something that a lot

1795
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 2: of us can relate to. When you're younger, when you're

1796
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: a kid and you're in sports, it is so much

1797
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 2: that youth is your foundation for how you viewed sports,

1798
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 2: I believe the rest of your life because it is

1799
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: so much of an impact on whether it be the

1800
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: team that you follow for forty years, the team that

1801
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 2: you dislike for forty years, but also of just the

1802
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: landscape of sports at that time Eron and I think

1803
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 2: one of the great things about the NBA in the

1804
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: nineteen eighties was you actually had a sport where you

1805
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 2: could hate both of two of the best teams. Sure,

1806
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 2: I didn't like the Lakers or the Selfish. I couldn't

1807
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 2: stand either of them. It's it's pretty crazy, and I

1808
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 2: think that those feelings continue.

1809
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 6: To this day.

1810
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: The reason I don't hate Duke is because I remember

1811
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 2: when Duke wasn't ten And it's not of the Duke

1812
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: not making the tournament. It's Duke will get to the

1813
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 2: final four and then they will figure out a way

1814
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 2: to fold.

1815
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 6: Or lose or not do anything. I mean that in

1816
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 6: years in a row.

1817
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 3: Because the reason I ask is because you know, I

1818
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 3: heard a conversation about Matt Painter this week about you know,

1819
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: all the great coaches they eventually break down that wall,

1820
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 3: and you know, I grew up in Connecticut and it

1821
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: sounds crazy. Jim Calhoun had that reputation, makes his first

1822
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 3: lead eight in nineteen ninety, gets back to four or

1823
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 3: five second weekends, doesn't break through until ninety nine. So

1824
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 3: you start to get into that ninety seven ninety eight range.

1825
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 3: You start to wonder, is it ever going to happen.

1826
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 3: What was it about three four final fours in a

1827
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 3: row that Duke got to and then couldn't win once

1828
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 3: they got Yeah?

1829
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 2: Right, So in eighty six they made it to the

1830
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,839
Speaker 2: National Championship game and lost to Purvis Ellison in Louisville

1831
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 2: at a game that I think entering it, people felt

1832
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 2: Duke was going to win. They didn't make it in

1833
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 2: eighty seven, but they made it back in nineteen eighty eight.

1834
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 2: That's Danny Manning and Kansas beating Oklahoma in the final

1835
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: and Duke loses in the national semifinals. The next year

1836
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: they go and we remember Michigan and Seaton Hall, but

1837
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,959
Speaker 2: Duke was also a team that final four with Illinois

1838
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 2: as well in eighty nine.

1839
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 6: So they don't make it. And then you go in

1840
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety and you make it.

1841
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: Back to the National Championship game and you lose by thirty.

1842
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is is in nineteen ninety one

1843
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 2: when they beat UNLV, you have to go back to

1844
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: that time and I remember that game.

1845
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 6: I made Jiffy pop. We made Jiffy pop that night.

1846
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 2: I remember it where you put it on the stove

1847
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: and it pops up in the tinfoil. That's what we

1848
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: had that night that Duke beat UNLV. In nineteen ninety one,

1849
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 2: Duke wasn't even a one seed. They were actually a

1850
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 2: two seed in the tournament that year. I vividly remember

1851
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: that because Ohio State was actually the one seed in

1852
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 2: their region and Ohio State lost to Saint John's in

1853
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: the regional semifinal, lost to the late great Malik Sealy,

1854
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: and that Saint John's team, and then Duke beat Saint

1855
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 2: John's in the regional final to go to the Final

1856
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: four and face UNLV. But as an Ohio State fan

1857
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 2: even back then, I'm like, oh, man, if they could

1858
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 2: get a chance at UNLV, that would be something I

1859
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 2: really liked that Ohio State team. It wasn't like, oh

1860
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 2: now UNLV has found their match, like I assumed UNLV

1861
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 2: was gonna crush Duke that night. And then when it

1862
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 2: became the game that it did and Christian Latner in

1863
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 2: the free throws and the shot that that UNLV didn't hit,

1864
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: that changed everything. And just like the nineteen eighty US

1865
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: Olympic hockey team, there was still another game for Duke

1866
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,759
Speaker 2: to win and they ended up beating Kansas two nights later,

1867
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: but that then started That then started the run, and

1868
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: Duke was never the same. But because I remember them

1869
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 2: prior in not being able to break through, even though

1870
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 2: they did beat Connecticut. You know is you know you

1871
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 2: mentioned in the nineteen ninety regional final for what they

1872
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 2: did in the final four when they got there just

1873
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 2: wasn't worth writing, you know, just it was a Duke

1874
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: was thought of as the team that just couldn't win

1875
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 2: it and couldn't get over the hump. So that's why

1876
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 2: I never really hated him, because I still think of

1877
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: the school as that school despite all of their success

1878
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 2: over the last now thirty plus years.

1879
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, the haters are going to have

1880
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, a lot of joy in

1881
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 3: the streets right now because Kyle Philipowski just filed out

1882
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 3: Duke's best player.

1883
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 6: And I don't know, want to steal your thunder.

1884
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 3: I know you're leading the show, but that's what North

1885
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 3: Carolina State or NC States opened up a double digit lead.

1886
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 2: Here is this are we are we loving this story

1887
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 2: as much as we should?

1888
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 3: Okay, here's my other question, Like, so as a Yukon

1889
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 3: and I'm not trying to make it all about Yukon.

1890
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 3: But Yukon in twenty eleven famously won five games in

1891
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 3: five days at the Big East Tournament and.

1892
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 6: Went on to win the national champion.

1893
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 3: Like, we're getting dangerous and no one had ever won

1894
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 3: five games in a conference tournament until this year with

1895
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 3: NC State, we're getting dangerously close to history repeating. And

1896
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 3: I haven't heard anybody even bring that up. Maybe it's

1897
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 3: because Yukon has looked so dominant. I think everybody thought

1898
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 3: they were to lose to Marquette, then they were gonna lose

1899
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 3: to Duke and then whatever. But to answer your question, no,

1900
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 3: and I and why and I'll tell you why I

1901
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 3: think it is.

1902
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 6: Is it? Well, it's two reasons.

1903
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 3: One, I think we love the underdog story when it's

1904
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 3: Oyola Chicago with Sister Jean or Florida Atlantic last year,

1905
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 3: even though they were whatever, seven seed, eight seed whatever,

1906
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 3: NC State acc weren't very good all year. This is

1907
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,839
Speaker 3: the great part of the tournament is that every March,

1908
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 3: every team has a chance to play their way in

1909
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 3: and then have a chance to win once you get there. Okay,

1910
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 3: but I think because they're not a no name school,

1911
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 3: and I think because at the end of the day.

1912
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 3: We know they're not one of the best teams. Probably

1913
01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 3: they're playing like it right now, but they haven't been

1914
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 3: one of the best teams for anywhere up until two

1915
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 3: weeks ago.

1916
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1917
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 3: I don't feel like people are loving this story as

1918
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 3: much as as people should be.

1919
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 2: I think Kemba Walker had so much to do with

1920
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 2: that with Yukon and their run because it was him. Yeah, right,

1921
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean, like it's basically him and this is this

1922
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: is not if there was one person carrying NC State

1923
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: right now.

1924
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 3: Sort of DJ but he's taken on that mantle. I'm

1925
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 3: not saying he is totally, but he's kind of taken

1926
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 3: on that mantle.

1927
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 6: DJ Burn Yeah. They also have DJ Horn Yeah.

1928
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: And then they've gotten a lot of contribute. Dir has

1929
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 2: been great over these last two weeks. Everybody's contributed, but

1930
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 2: Kembo was the he was Yeah, he was the one

1931
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 2: man show and he's a one man wrecking crew. And

1932
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Speaker 2: then going through what they ended up going through, you know,

1933
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 2: to get there, and you know, they beat what Kawhi

1934
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,520
Speaker 2: and in San Diego State and the.

1935
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 6: Regional semi finals and then the thing with Ken.

1936
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Speaker 3: But two, he had that moment in the Big East

1937
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 3: Tournament where he crossed up Gary McGee sent them Sprout,

1938
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 3: and then from there it was like people were kind

1939
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 3: of paying attention. This was and I'm not trying to

1940
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 3: make this a Fox ESPN thing, but the Big East

1941
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 3: Tournament was on ESPN. It was kind of whatever. It

1942
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 3: was kind of that that late, you know, Saturday showcase.

1943
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 3: So you're following it day by day, where now it's like, Frankly,

1944
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 3: the ACC wasn't that good this year.

1945
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,560
Speaker 6: So they beat Duke and then it's like this is

1946
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Speaker 6: NC State. They beat too.

1947
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: Then they're playing Virginia the next day and you're like,

1948
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Speaker 3: I don't really want to watch them play Virginia.

1949
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,719
Speaker 6: And then they're playing Carolina. Well, they'll probably lose to Carolina.

1950
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1951
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 3: It feels different. I can't quite put my finger on it,

1952
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: but it feels different.

1953
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 6: It does for sure.

1954
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Speaker 2: We talked about just a couple of hours ago, and

1955
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 2: if you're just tuning in, He'sier and Torres, I'm Dan Byer.

1956
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 2: We talked about Purdue and the things that had to

1957
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: go right for them or the things that maybe went

1958
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 2: their way, and by the way, a lot of that

1959
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 2: stuff has to happen for turny runs. But we talked

1960
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 2: about the Jamal Shed injury and I used it in

1961
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 2: terms of how it helped Duke, Like when you look

1962
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 2: at this run by NC State that they're three forty

1963
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 2: seven away from from completing, when you look at this run,

1964
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 2: like Jamal Shed's injury plays a part in NC State

1965
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 2: sun oh yeah, And we don't look at it that way,

1966
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 2: like we forget about because if if Jamal Shed was

1967
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 2: fully healthy, I think Houston beats Duke and now NC

1968
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 2: State has to go through Houston. And we'll always if

1969
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 2: NC State ends up holding onto this, we'll look at

1970
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: this as the remember when they beat Duke. But we're

1971
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 2: not going to say at the end of the game

1972
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 2: prior Jamal Shed got hurt for Houston like that all

1973
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 2: gets lost in the in the weeds and that's not

1974
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 2: thought of any more. The run will be everything on

1975
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 2: the surface of them getting to stop at the end

1976
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 2: of regulation against Oakland just to survive the ACC Tournament

1977
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 2: buzzer beater that you have to survive. Heck, they were

1978
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 2: down at half to Louisville, right, you know, in the

1979
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 2: first game of the ACC Tournament. Like there are a

1980
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 2: lot of things that we're going to point out and

1981
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 2: be like, what an amazing run, And that's not even

1982
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 2: gonna be half of it for NC State, because we're

1983
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: gonna forget about the things like the shed injury or

1984
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 2: just Oakland not even getting a shot off at the

1985
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,799
Speaker 2: end of regulation in that, you know, in that matchup,

1986
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 2: and we're not We're probably not even gonna be talking

1987
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 2: about NC State not having to play Kentucky because now

1988
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: when you look at all these wins and how how

1989
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 2: it piles up, it's just gonna look at what an

1990
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 2: amazing run by NC State. I do think them coming

1991
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 2: from a power conference does change the narrative of it's

1992
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 2: not as much of a cinderella as say another eleven seed.

1993
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: Sorry George Mason, you know a great example, you know,

1994
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: and because they were the first even a VCU and

1995
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 2: playing in that first game, I felt had a different

1996
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 2: feel and they knocked off top seed Kansas to go

1997
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 2: to the to the final four that twenty eleven season.

1998
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 2: There were different fields and all sister Jane with loyal

1999
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 2: oh was you know, I mean like, there are all

2000
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 2: these things, but them coming from a power conference is

2001
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 2: the reason why I don't think that we are so

2002
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 2: wrapped up into them being a Cinderella in an amazing story.

2003
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 3: I think when you have that fourteen next to your

2004
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 3: name and that's losses. They entered the NCAA Tournament at

2005
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 3: twenty two and fourteen, so you do some math, what

2006
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 3: were they fifteen and fourteen entering the big the ACC tournament?

2007
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 6: Is that right? Yeah?

2008
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 3: They won five games in five days, so they've won

2009
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 3: nine so far. So they were, yeah, sixteen and fourteen

2010
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 3: going into or seventeen and fourteen whatever going into the

2011
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 3: ACC tournament. It just feels different when Loyola is thirty

2012
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 3: and three or whatever and I don't know what their

2013
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 3: record was. So yeah, and by the way, I'm enjoying

2014
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 3: it as we kind of led the segment with a

2015
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 3: lot of people do like do like kind of wallowing

2016
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 3: in Duke's misery.

2017
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 6: But I don't think this.

2018
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 3: I don't think America has really like fully wrapped their

2019
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 3: arms around this thing, like maybe they would have if

2020
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 3: it was a smaller conference school.

2021
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 2: Then VCU, to their credit, was in at large team

2022
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 2: like they were picked. They were one of the final

2023
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 2: schools picked. Where here NC State, if it came down

2024
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 2: to the selection process, would not have been picked without

2025
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 2: that automatic bid. So there's listen and I'll say this

2026
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 2: too really quick. It's a very random topic, but it's

2027
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 2: what I just said a minute ago. This is what

2028
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 2: makes March great. This is why we shouldn't expand the tournament.

2029
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 2: You know, Greg Sanki keeps talking about expanding the tournament

2030
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 2: for access.

2031
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 3: This is the only sport. I mean, it's not the

2032
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 3: only one, but everyone enters March with access. It's the

2033
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 3: only sport, right, I mean, you could be the Philadelphia Eagles.

2034
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 3: You could start ten and oh, or that's a bad example.

2035
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 3: You can start six and oh. If you go ten

2036
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 3: and oh and ten from that point on, you don't

2037
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 3: have a chance to make the playoffs once you get

2038
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 3: to the final month of the season. So NC State

2039
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 3: is the best example yet on why we shouldn't expand

2040
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 3: because it proves everybody has a shot. It's got to

2041
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 3: be the right coach, the right group of guys. But

2042
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 3: but everybody's got this shot.

2043
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 2: Is is there a way though that Greg Sanki and others, well,

2044
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,839
Speaker 2: try to spin it, don't. Yeah, they'll spin it and say, look,

2045
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 2: this is why there should be more Power five schools

2046
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 2: in powers forget how many Power leagues there are.

2047
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 3: Now it's gonna be back to five in basketball and

2048
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 3: four and football.

2049
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2050
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 2: So when you have that argument of saying, well, see,

2051
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 2: this is why we need this is I think that's

2052
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 2: exactly what they'll do. They'll point to an NC State

2053
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 2: despite being the automatic qualifier, and they'll use it to

2054
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 2: their advantage by saying, see, in a normal scenario, NC

2055
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 2: State wouldn't have made the tournament, and that is why

2056
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 2: we need to expand it to seventy two or seventy

2057
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 2: six to give those opportunities. In reality, if you were

2058
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,759
Speaker 2: to do a seventy two or seventy six school tournament,

2059
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 2: you actually would maybe make it tougher on a team

2060
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 2: like NC State because you're playing an extra.

2061
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 6: Game, no doubt.

2062
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so there's four more opportunities for teams to

2063
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 2: lose games. In that scenario, NC State would have if

2064
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 2: it was a field of seventy six and they weren't

2065
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 2: at large, they would have had to have played, you know,

2066
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 2: one of those extra games, just like we had in

2067
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: the first four. So that's something that the committee would

2068
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 2: also have to have to look at.

2069
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 5: All.

2070
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Right, So here's where it stands. NC State up ten

2071
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 2: on Duke sixty to fifty. Duke is just one time

2072
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 2: out final situation both in the one and one, so

2073
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 2: still a couple more follows before NC State ends up

2074
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 2: shooting two and now it's a twelve point lead, two

2075
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 2: twenty eight in counting in NC State, Yes, one hundred

2076
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 2: and forty seconds away from going to the first Final

2077
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 2: four since nineteen eighty three. He's erin Torres. I'm dan Byer.

2078
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,719
Speaker 2: Will bring in the conclusion of that and who will

2079
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 2: be the new villain in college basketball, something we'll discuss

2080
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 2: next year on Fox Sports Radio. We could be witnessing

2081
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 2: history in a matter of minutes. He's erin Torres.

2082
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 6: I'm dan Byer.

2083
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 2: NC State's a minute twenty seven away from being the

2084
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 2: six eleventh seed so advance to a final four. They're

2085
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 2: up eleven on Duke sixty five fifty four again in Dallas,

2086
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 2: and NC State has the basketball shooting two free throws

2087
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 2: the rest of the way. Just a crazy run. It's

2088
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,839
Speaker 2: also could be a changing of the guard. Aaron Torres,

2089
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 2: I've thought a lot about this. I've heard a lot

2090
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: of in this image of this day of name, image

2091
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 2: and likeness, and then in this day of the transfer portal.

2092
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 2: I know a lot of coaches don't love that the

2093
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 2: transfer portal is open right now, Bran Underwood complaining and

2094
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 2: trying to prep for an Elite eight game and also

2095
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 2: making calls on recruits and trying to bring players into

2096
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 2: the program as he's also trying to coach his team

2097
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 2: and leading up to yesterday and what was their biggest

2098
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 2: game in some time. There are things that have to

2099
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 2: maybe be worked out with the transfer portal. But you

2100
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 2: have an NC State team, a starting five that has

2101
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 2: built solely on guys who played elsewhere, and what I

2102
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 2: wonder now, Aaron, we know how big of a huge

2103
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 2: deal it is. I actually think for college basketball fans

2104
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 2: this will not work. But I feel that college basketball

2105
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 2: regionally and within those markets is alive and well that

2106
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 2: it brings. The transfer portal is fun. The transfer portal

2107
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 2: is a way of trying to improve your team if

2108
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 2: you're connected. Now. It's different on the outside and looking

2109
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 2: at it as a whole, because it's just impossible to

2110
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 2: keep track of all the different players moving here, there

2111
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 2: and everywhere. But if you have an NC State team

2112
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 2: that has put together with a starting lineup of guys

2113
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 2: who didn't start in Raleigh when they started their basketball career.

2114
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 2: It gives a lot of hope, and I think will

2115
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 2: actually garner interest locally in those spots much much more

2116
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 2: than we ever thought that it could.

2117
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 3: Dan, I'm sad we only have thirty five more minutes

2118
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:49,759
Speaker 3: because I could do two hours on this topic, because

2119
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 3: I've said for about three years everybody hates the portal,

2120
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 3: and I get it. If I was a coach having

2121
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 3: to re recruit my guys every single year, it would

2122
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 3: be chaos, and I understand why the coaches are frustrated.

2123
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 3: It has created interest from college basketball fans through pretty

2124
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 3: much the NBA Draft, because remember there's a lot of

2125
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 3: players that will enter the NBA Draft but also announce, hey,

2126
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 3: I'm testing the waters, but if I come back, I'm

2127
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 3: not coming back to this school or my coach got fired,

2128
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna test the waters. But if I come back,

2129
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 3: I'll also be in the portal. And I can tell you,

2130
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 3: as somebody who outside of Fox Sports Radio primarily covers

2131
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 3: college athletics, it is a Dan you know, you go

2132
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 3: to my YouTube channel, whatever I bring it up, A

2133
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 3: good portal segment will do ten times the number of

2134
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 3: what a reaction to NC State ducal because everybody wants

2135
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 3: to know who are those guys?

2136
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 6: Is my guy good?

2137
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 3: And the cool thing about the portal is while it

2138
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 3: does open while the tournament is going on, it really

2139
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 3: ramps up as the season is ending, so you look

2140
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 3: at you know, listen, I criticize the NBA a lot,

2141
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 3: but you know, having the free agency right after the

2142
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 3: season is a great thing for interest. Where the college

2143
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 3: football portal as an example, you know, the season ends

2144
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 3: and then it's sort of open, but we're prepping for

2145
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 3: bowl games, and then our focus turns back from the

2146
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 3: portal to the postseason where it's like college basketball, it's

2147
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,879
Speaker 3: like we get another six to eight weeks of essentially

2148
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 3: free agency and roster building. It to your point, it

2149
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 3: is so important in this era. People pay attention, certainly,

2150
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 3: and I think it's only getting bigger as the years

2151
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 3: go on.

2152
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 2: The Twitter handle of a NCAA buzzer beaters and game winners,

2153
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 2: it's got about twenty thousand followers. Put this graphic up

2154
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 2: and the reason why it is so stunning to me,

2155
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 2: I think it also sheds a lot of light about

2156
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 2: what the transfer portal is took. The the eight schools

2157
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 2: that made the Elite eight and did their starting five

2158
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:49,480
Speaker 2: and where their players most recently played their college basketball

2159
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 2: prior to maybe joining that school or for it was

2160
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 2: that school. The point being is Tennessee has four Orange

2161
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 2: te's in their column of five. Dalton connect the only

2162
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: one that ends up transferring in Duke, all Dukes. All

2163
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 2: five guys started at Duke younger. The point being Duke

2164
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 2: didn't have anybody leave Purdue four of the five one

2165
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 2: transfer coming in NC State has different logos, Like you

2166
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 2: had to figure out who it was like with all

2167
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 2: five of the logos. But you know what that also

2168
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 2: says is that says that Rick Barnes has something good

2169
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 2: in Tennessee. They just needed one. They just needed to

2170
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 2: take one card from the hand that they were done.

2171
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 2: You know, if you're playing poker, guess what give me two?

2172
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 2: You know you don't want to throw all Not every

2173
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 2: program is throwing away all of their players. And if

2174
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 2: players are exiting the program, it's usually because things aren't

2175
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,480
Speaker 2: good from that program, right Like, and there are scenarios

2176
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 2: where mid majors are hurt because maybe a player wants

2177
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: to go and play you know, power five, power six

2178
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 2: basketball instead of at the low major or mid major level.

2179
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 2: But I don't blame the person for that either. That's

2180
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 2: what every kid dreams about playing, you know, to being

2181
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 2: able to play in front of twenty thousand as opposed

2182
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 2: to maybe five or six thousand are playing on national

2183
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 2: TV every week. I don't blame a player for doing that.

2184
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,639
Speaker 2: I understand that it may hurt some of those smaller schools,

2185
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:11,360
Speaker 2: but now I think it's just a way of an

2186
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:15,719
Speaker 2: embracing it and making it just better for your school.

2187
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 2: And I think it could actually be really fun. And

2188
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 2: now I'm curious on how much, you know, I don't

2189
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 2: know if there are schools that will be able to

2190
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 2: follow a path like NC State made. And again, this

2191
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:29,919
Speaker 2: run has been pretty amazing, but I think the Transfer

2192
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 2: Portal is getting a boost from their run in this tournament.

2193
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 3: Well two things. One, you're right about the great programs,

2194
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 3: they're always gonna have holes. Look at Yukon Camp spent

2195
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 3: they return three of their top six you know whatever,

2196
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 3: but they needed a guy to replace Jordan Hawkins, whos

2197
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 3: now with the New Orleans Pelicans. Camp Spencer late in

2198
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 3: the process, goes into the Portal. He ends up at Yukon.

2199
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 3: He has been the missing piece that I think has

2200
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 3: taken them to another level. The counter to that NC

2201
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 3: State isn't the only one. Alabama lost. I think five

2202
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 3: of their top six, four their top six from last year.

2203
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 3: Remember Brandon Miller, but Noah Clown. He was a first

2204
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 3: round pick. And I bring it up because they went

2205
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 3: in the portal Grant Nelson the Star that Thursday night win.

2206
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 3: He was a guy that kind of what I mentioned,

2207
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 3: he entered the NBA Draft, didn't get the feedback that

2208
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 3: he likes, decides to return to college, and it was

2209
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 3: a race between them and a few other schools to

2210
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 3: get him Astrada rightsl etc. So I mean, these are

2211
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 3: things that Alabama fans in the offseason or whoever it

2212
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 3: is an Alabama fan knows they're losing four their top

2213
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 3: five guys, and it's like, okay, who are these guys

2214
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 3: that we need to know? And so it is truly

2215
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,719
Speaker 3: college basketball free agency. I do wish to an agree

2216
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 3: there was a way to, you know, regulate it a

2217
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 3: little bit. You know, I think the way that it

2218
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 3: was initially set up of the one time transfer means

2219
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 3: the one time transfer unless you've graduated, unless it's whatever.

2220
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 3: I think that was good, and I know a lot

2221
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 3: of coaches took a lot of guys last offseason assuming

2222
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 3: they wouldn't be able transfer. Now they're losing him again,

2223
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 3: so it needs work. It isn't perfect, but it is

2224
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,679
Speaker 3: the version of college basketball free agency. It's not something

2225
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 3: that you know, Doug Gottlieber Kollin Cowhard's gonna leave their

2226
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 3: show with. But there is definitely interest from the fans

2227
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 3: of those programs.

2228
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just interesting to see how NC State put

2229
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 2: this together and other schools. As he said, they just

2230
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 2: need one player. They just need too And by the way,

2231
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 2: uh look, we love Fargo, we love the Bison, but

2232
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:19,759
Speaker 2: how can you blame Grant Nelson?

2233
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 7: Right?

2234
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 2: I mean, now the NB eight, all right, doesn't work out,

2235
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 2: But guess what I get to go and play on

2236
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 2: a team that has an opportunity to go to a

2237
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen, to now go to a Final four, which

2238
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 2: again is what you dream of as a kid, and

2239
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 2: to be able to fulfill that dream, and and heck

2240
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 2: just you know, playing in the playing in the ACC Yeah,

2241
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 2: you know, in having that opportunity, guess what I got

2242
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 2: to go play against Duke and Cameron Indoor, you know,

2243
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 2: and these NC State kids are going to a final four. Now,

2244
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 2: It's not only did we get to beat Duke in

2245
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 2: the ACC tournament, we beat him in the NCAA tournament

2246
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 2: and we ourselves went to a final four.

2247
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 6: So there's a lot of lot of good stuff that

2248
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 6: can come from something, and I sucked.

2249
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 3: I actually talked to Grant Nelson about that at media

2250
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 3: availability on Wednesday, and he said I had never played

2251
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 3: in an NCAA tournament.

2252
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 6: That was a part of my decision.

2253
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 3: Yes, I wanted to be developed for the NBA, but

2254
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 3: I wanted to go to a place that I felt

2255
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 3: pretty good I could have an impact, but also that

2256
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 3: I would play in this NCAA tournament.

2257
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 6: Again, I mentioned this earlier.

2258
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 3: I know everybody's quick to poo poo college sports, and

2259
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 3: you know, everything's about getting to the NBA and listen

2260
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 3: for those top ten prospects that know they're gonna be

2261
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 3: one and donees.

2262
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 6: I get it, but I think for a lot.

2263
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 3: First of all, for a lot of these kids, playing

2264
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 3: in the tournament is the peak of literally their careers.

2265
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:35,440
Speaker 6: Most of them don't go to the NBA.

2266
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 3: But even the ones that go to the NBA, it's like, well,

2267
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to college for one year and I

2268
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 3: want to play in that tournament. I want my one

2269
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 3: shining moment. And so again people crap on the portal.

2270
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 3: But again I wish there were ways that could be regulated.

2271
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 3: But I think your point Dan is spot on about

2272
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 3: the impact that it's having not only on roster building,

2273
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 3: but more importantly, I think on fan interest as well.

2274
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 2: He's eron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. Let's throw it over

2275
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 2: to the news desk with Manzi. So I think that

2276
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 2: the uh, it's just a matter of time as the

2277
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 2: clock is ticking.

2278
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 7: Yes, DJ Burns Junior definitely had a smile on his face.

2279
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 7: With twenty eight points for the wolf Pack. They're up

2280
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,560
Speaker 7: seventy three to sixty one to four seed Duke thirty

2281
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 7: two seconds left, Can I can I make one?

2282
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 6: No point quickly, just so you know.

2283
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 2: So Nevada is the wolf Pack, but they're the wolf

2284
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 2: space pack. NC State is the wolf Pack. One word, Yes,

2285
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 2: I do you know what I mean?

2286
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, but yet I knew it because.

2287
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 2: She was she heard me, but she wasn't listening or

2288
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 2: vice versa.

2289
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 6: Both.

2290
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 1: No, I got it. So you're saying.

2291
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 6: One has a space and one does.

2292
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 7: And so did I say it where it made it

2293
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 7: seem like there was a space.

2294
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 6: No, not at all.

2295
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 2: I just wanted to bring up that point about NC

2296
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 2: State wolf Pack. Yeah, and there's another wolf pack that

2297
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 2: just puts a space between wolf and pack and college

2298
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 2: athletic And how is that legal?

2299
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 6: Just happen? How is anything? Did you know?

2300
01:45:58,240 --> 01:45:59,759
Speaker 3: I think you probably know this. You know the crighton

2301
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 3: blue it's one word. They it's blue Jay's like one,

2302
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:05,600
Speaker 3: it's weird by high school. It was Blue Jays, so

2303
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 3: we were one word as well. Well, I thought it

2304
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 3: was two words. Is it universally two words otherwise or no?

2305
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:10,719
Speaker 3: I thought it was two words.

2306
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 7: I think the Blue Jays, like the baseball team is

2307
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 7: two words, right, Yeah, it's two words?

2308
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, huh.

2309
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 3: I remember I wrote an article about Creighton got a

2310
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 3: sternly worded email from their sid about properly using.

2311
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 1: Blue Jays because you made it two words.

2312
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 6: I made it two words.

2313
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:27,799
Speaker 1: How funny?

2314
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 8: Oh?

2315
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 1: Interesting?

2316
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 7: Well, wolf pack one word two seconds away from heading

2317
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 7: to the final four.

2318
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,679
Speaker 1: Did you say they're only the sixth eleventh seed. Yes,

2319
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,640
Speaker 1: to make it to the final four? Correct, that's crazy?

2320
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 1: Good for them, Good for them? Mayes.

2321
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 2: I want a stat on the other side that will

2322
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,879
Speaker 2: and we'll dissect it and why that that number is interesting?

2323
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 7: Okay, go ahead, all right, Well they're not the only

2324
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 7: ones that punched their ticket to the Final four. As

2325
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 7: per due earlier today defeated two seed Tennessee seventy two

2326
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 7: to sixty six.

2327
01:46:58,560 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 1: So we have our final four.

2328
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 7: Alabama, Yukon, Purdue, NC State who had them, raise your hand.

2329
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 2: Probably there are people who had Duke in the final

2330
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 2: that were like living large and feeling good about it.

2331
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 2: But yes, it is now over. I did not believe

2332
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 2: it was going to happen.

2333
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I could not believe it either.

2334
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,799
Speaker 7: I mean, they outscored Duke in the second half fifty

2335
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 7: five to thirty seven, after Duke, you know, won the

2336
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 7: first half. So really, whatever whatever they said, I have

2337
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 7: time in the locker room. It worked. Let's check in

2338
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,759
Speaker 7: on the NBA. It's been all Lakers really against the Nets.

2339
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 7: It still is. It's eighty two to sixty five with

2340
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 7: about five minutes to go in the third quarter. The

2341
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 7: Clippers are still up on the Hornets eighty three to

2342
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 7: seventy six with about four minutes to go in the

2343
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 7: third Apparently James Harden something happened to his finger, but

2344
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 7: he's still playing. During pregame shoot around, he hurt his finger,

2345
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 7: but apparently he's fine. He's still in there. And Clippers

2346
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 7: are on top the seventy six ers holding on to

2347
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 7: their lead over the Raptors in Toronto eighty five seventy

2348
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 7: two halfway through the third quarter. The Heat still beating

2349
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 7: the Wizards seventy eight to sixty nine halfway through the

2350
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 7: third as well. After the first quarter, the Knicks are

2351
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,600
Speaker 7: on top of the Thunder twenty two to seventeen.

2352
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 1: The Mavericks weren't sure if Luka Doncic was gonna play.

2353
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 7: He is playing, and they're beating the Rockets thirty six

2354
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 7: to twenty four after the first quarter. The Rockets trying

2355
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 7: to get in the play in tournament in the Western Conference.

2356
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 1: They've won eleven in a row.

2357
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 7: The Bulls are beating the Timberwooves after the first quarter

2358
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 7: thirty three to twenty two, and the Spurs are beating

2359
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 7: the Warriors thirty four to twenty seven after the first quarter.

2360
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 7: Victor one Vanyama was fine twenty five thousand dollars for

2361
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,839
Speaker 7: throwing that ball into the stands in that ot victory

2362
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 7: over the.

2363
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 1: Knicks, which is so silly.

2364
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 6: They still got the ball.

2365
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 1: It's so silly, Like I, you know, he's obviously not

2366
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 1: paying for it. He doesn't care.

2367
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 7: In Major League Baseball, one game going on, it's the

2368
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 7: last one of the day Cardinals and Dodgers here in

2369
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 7: LA and they are scoreless bottom of the second inning.

2370
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,640
Speaker 1: Some of the games that wrapped up the Phillies. They

2371
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 1: came back to beat the Braves five to four.

2372
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 7: The burs outscored the Mets four to one to finish

2373
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 7: the three games sweep. The Pirates came back from behind

2374
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 7: to defeat the Marlins nine seven and ten innings and

2375
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 7: complete a four games sweep.

2376
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 1: The Royals crushed the Twins eleven zero.

2377
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 7: Bobby Wood Junior was just a double short of hitting

2378
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 7: for the cycle, and he did it super early. It

2379
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 7: was like the fifth inning he could have done it

2380
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 7: wasn't able to. And the Yankees completed a four game

2381
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 7: sweep of the Astros New York one four to three,

2382
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 7: and Stephen Yaeger won the Houston Open today.

2383
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 1: It was a lot going on.

2384
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 7: Yes, I had to look it up because it doesn't

2385
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:29,480
Speaker 7: look like Gagermeister.

2386
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:30,720
Speaker 1: I was like, why is this is gonna be one

2387
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 1: of those situations where I.

2388
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 7: Say it wrong, Tom, I can't can not That is

2389
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 7: the worst ever.

2390
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 1: I I can't know. Yes, what was I gonna say?

2391
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 1: I can't do it? Never doing it?

2392
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 7: And there is no update as for Rashid Rice, the

2393
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 7: receiver of the Kansas City Chiefs, apparently. Dallas Morning News

2394
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 7: says that they're searching for him in a connection with

2395
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 7: the six vehicle crash that occurred Saturday night in Dallas.

2396
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 1: They think he was driving a.

2397
01:49:56,439 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 7: Corvette, a Corvette and Lamborghini speeding lost control the chain reaction.

2398
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 7: There were four people who had minor injuries, according to

2399
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 7: the report.

2400
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 2: Now to jump back to the tournament, because there's no

2401
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 2: great transition to make from that. This is the point

2402
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 2: that I wanted to make about NC State making it

2403
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 2: as an eleventh seed, being the sixth school to do so.

2404
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 2: Moncie Belonius. Do you know what seed has made the

2405
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 2: most final fours like of the of the.

2406
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess one seed, Yes.

2407
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 2: That is correct. Do you know what seed has made

2408
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 2: the second most final forurs?

2409
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 1: I guess two seeds?

2410
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 2: Okay, what about the third? The third most final fource?

2411
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:41,839
Speaker 2: What seed three, okay, and let's do let's do fourth,

2412
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 2: four seed. Okay, all right, you're doing you're doing really

2413
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 2: really well. What about what about number five.

2414
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 1: The five seed?

2415
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 2: Okay? What about six? Who's made the what seed has

2416
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 2: made the sixth most final force?

2417
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: Eleven seed?

2418
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 2: Eleven seed and the sixth seed are now tied. Six

2419
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 2: six seeds going to the final four, and now NC

2420
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 2: State makes it the sixth eleventh seed. Seven seeds have

2421
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 2: only made four final fours. Your Yukon squad decade ago

2422
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 2: ends up winning a national championship from that spot. There

2423
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 2: have been eight seven seeds to make final fours before,

2424
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 2: but only three nine seeds and just one ten seed

2425
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 2: has made a final four. The point being with this is,

2426
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 2: I think there's a reason for it, Aaron, and I

2427
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 2: think it's the committee getting out of maybe getting out

2428
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 2: of their way. Maybe it's the mid major schools that

2429
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 2: we saw of a George Mason of a Loyola of

2430
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,679
Speaker 2: a VCU in those schools being put in that spot

2431
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 2: and making runs. But I think it's really difficult to

2432
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 2: seed five through nine in the tenth in the NCAA tournament.

2433
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 2: By the way, thank you very much much. Yeah, yeah,

2434
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 2: it's thanks for playing along, you know. So like the

2435
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 2: eleventh seeds, I'm not saying that NC State doesn't deserve

2436
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 2: an eleven seed or these other eleven seeds that are here,

2437
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 2: but usually when a team is like a seventh seed,

2438
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 2: they've kind of just been whatever throughout the season.

2439
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:10,719
Speaker 6: You know, you run into.

2440
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 2: A buzz saw maybe of a two seed, and you

2441
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 2: don't have opportunity to gain momentum when you're in that

2442
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 2: eleventh spot. Maybe the sixth seed has had some of

2443
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 2: the problems just like a seventh seed has had, so

2444
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 2: you knock them off. Maybe you're better because you just

2445
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:26,720
Speaker 2: make it into the tournament. Maybe you play in the

2446
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 2: play in in the first four and you get some momentum,

2447
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 2: like being in that eleventh spot. Like I think, like

2448
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 2: there has to be a reason and why they are

2449
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 2: the sixth to eleventh seed. And we've only seen four

2450
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 2: to seven seeds, Like that's a difference of four lines

2451
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 2: in seeding, and we've had more eleven seeds make it

2452
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,599
Speaker 2: than a seven seed and in a final four. I think

2453
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 2: it's tough for the committee to kind of judge that

2454
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,800
Speaker 2: middle of the road and maybe you're moving teams here

2455
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 2: and there, like a BYU. We saw them move off

2456
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 2: as a seed line because of certain restrictions. But when

2457
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 2: it comes down to the eleven seed are usually pretty

2458
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 2: darn good load to mid major or maybe just one

2459
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 2: of those teams on the bubble that has been up

2460
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 2: and down all year. But I think there's got to

2461
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 2: be a reason why we see more eleven seeds make

2462
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 2: it then, So.

2463
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 6: I have some of the others. I have a few

2464
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 6: conspiracy theories. You want to you want to save them?

2465
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 6: Or should we?

2466
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear him on the other end, let's do it. Yeah,

2467
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 2: Aaron Torres gets conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory toys is coming

2468
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 2: up the Final four. A set hit them up at

2469
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 2: Aaron underscore Toris, you can find me at Dan Byer

2470
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 2: on Foxlove from the tireq dot Com Studios. NC State

2471
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 2: is going to the Final Four. We react to that

2472
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 2: in Conspiracies next year on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, you know,

2473
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 2: just like everything else at the NCAA tournament. He's Aeron Torres,

2474
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer, It's Fox Sports Sunday. I have been

2475
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 2: wrong about everything and during this show, which the Duke

2476
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 2: NC State game took place during our show, if you

2477
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 2: were to go back and listen to the podcast, which

2478
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 2: I encourage you to do. Fox Sports Radio dot Com

2479
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 2: click on podcasts and Fox Sports Radio Weekends. I was

2480
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,600
Speaker 2: speaking in a tone or I just felt it was

2481
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:06,679
Speaker 2: a given that Duke was going to win. I talked

2482
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 2: in the in the case of this is going to

2483
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 2: be a darn good final four, yukon Purdue Alabama. You

2484
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 2: put Duke in there like it's really tough to pick

2485
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 2: four better, you know, Matt, Like That's how I was talking.

2486
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 2: And then NC State makes every shot in the second

2487
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:25,719
Speaker 2: half and locks up Duke and rolls onto the final four.

2488
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 2: But how things change? An eleven seed for the sixth

2489
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 2: time makes it to the final four. You had a

2490
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory?

2491
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 3: What happened right there? You put your hand on the stove.

2492
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 3: You got DJ Burns holding that one all day. That

2493
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 3: was unbelievable. There was a lot of Kawhi laughs in

2494
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 3: that one. That was a very old man joke. Conspiracy

2495
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 3: theory on eleven's okay, So thank you, Mary. This is

2496
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 3: why Mary is the best. You already knew where I

2497
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 3: was going with this. There was once a port op

2498
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 3: named Don Brown. I had to explain what X files

2499
01:54:57,800 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 3: was too, so love I love you being on top

2500
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 3: that shout out Don Brown.

2501
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 6: Okay, So a couple of things.

2502
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 3: One and you actually have mentioned you mentioned this at

2503
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 3: We did a show on Friday, I believe it was

2504
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb of the first weekend of the NCA tournament

2505
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 3: Keep that music going married, So we the first weekend

2506
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 3: of the tournament. You mentioned that it's like, how do

2507
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 3: you accurately seed eleven seeds? Because there's one team that's

2508
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 3: twenty eight and five that's totally a byproduct of playing

2509
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 3: nothing but bad teams. But there's another team that's twenty

2510
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 3: eight and five from a small conference that's actually legitimately good,

2511
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 3: and there's just no way to know, And so eleven seeds.

2512
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 6: You think about him?

2513
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 3: George Mason, I believe Loyola Chicago was an eleven seed VCU,

2514
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 3: So like those teams were potentially just misseeeded, you know

2515
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 3: what I mean. And it's like, to your point, that's

2516
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 3: one and then two. I do wonder if there's a

2517
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 3: slightly easier path, right, Like a ten seed has to

2518
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 3: play a two seed in the second round. An eleven seed,

2519
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 3: if they win, would play a three seed and then

2520
01:55:58,080 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 3: once you get to that second weekend, it could be cartage.

2521
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 3: You could be playing a nine seed, a seven seed

2522
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 3: or whatever. So that's just my my half baked conspiracy theory.

2523
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 2: I know, I think that I think that absolutely plays

2524
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 2: a role into it. I think there are teams that

2525
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 2: also play themselves into the tournament and then they.

2526
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:16,080
Speaker 6: Can get they've been hot and stay hot.

2527
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 2: And and they're in one of the last lines. And again,

2528
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 2: this is only the sixth time that it's happened. But

2529
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 2: if you were to follow everything on the seed line,

2530
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 2: why does a seventh seed only have four appearances in

2531
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 2: a final four?

2532
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 6: So weird? Yeah, because then you'd have to play the

2533
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 6: two in the second round.

2534
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 2: And seven is safely in the bracket. Sure like they're

2535
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 2: a tournament team. They are a tournament caliber team, a

2536
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 2: decent team. But that's there's the eight seeds. It's kind

2537
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 2: of crazy that there were seven eight seeds that ended

2538
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:51,880
Speaker 2: up making it. But when you consider gosh, in two

2539
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 2: thousand you had two eight seeds ending up making it,

2540
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 2: So you had two of them in one season. There's yeah,

2541
01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 2: there's what we had last year, two five seeds that

2542
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 2: end up making There're only been ten in the history,

2543
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 2: and you're always picking five to twelve matchups. I think

2544
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 2: that that's why you're seeing a lot of reasons on

2545
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 2: why you're getting the eleven seeds in Never has a

2546
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 2: seed twelve.

2547
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 6: Or lower made a Final four. So that is going

2548
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 6: to be a territory that it's gonna happen eventually. Yeah, I.

2549
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 2: Think it will. The closest that we've gotten. I'll say

2550
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:31,000
Speaker 2: this the closest we gotten with Saint Peter's when they

2551
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 2: were a fifteen seed and made it to the Elite

2552
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 2: eight and lost to North Carolina. But in watching what

2553
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 2: North Carolina State just did, you can't tell me that

2554
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 2: Oakland couldn't have gone on this run. Fair if you

2555
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 2: would have seen Goalkie launching threes against Duke in the

2556
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 2: way and they had other guys as well, but not

2557
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 2: a lot of other guys, but they did have other

2558
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 2: guys that Oakland could have gone on that run. Now,

2559
01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would have played Marquette the

2560
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 2: way that NC State did, maybe it would have ended

2561
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 2: in the Sweet sixteen. But I will pat myself on

2562
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 2: the back for this. I remember ten years ago telling

2563
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 2: a group of people because there was a sponsor there

2564
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 2: was going to do something for the network, and they did,

2565
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:21,879
Speaker 2: and their whole thing was was based on a sixteen

2566
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 2: upsetting a one in one of those long shot sort

2567
01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 2: of deals. And I said, it's going to happen, you know,

2568
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,760
Speaker 2: within the next five or ten years, because when you

2569
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 2: expanded the tournament and you expanded those sixteen seeds, some

2570
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 2: of those sixteen seeds were now fifteen seeds. And so

2571
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:42,640
Speaker 2: since that point we've seen two upsets happen with Virginia

2572
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 2: and obviously Purdue, who goes to the final four today.

2573
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 2: But it just makes it a whole different world. I

2574
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 2: think that you will see, Yeah, I think you could

2575
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 2: just as well have seen in Oakland go on a

2576
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 2: run like this today. So there will be there will

2577
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 2: be a twelve at some point. There will be maybe

2578
01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 2: a thirteen at some point. But it's just crazy that

2579
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 2: eleven seeds when we've only had four seven seeds really quick.

2580
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 3: Well, we're on the subject of sixteen seeds being one

2581
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 3: best story for team to win the championship. Yukon repeating

2582
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 3: NC State another dream run from the ACC tournament perdue

2583
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 3: obviously avenging last year. I mean, if there's a Bama

2584
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 3: take on All years, But seems like there's three stories

2585
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 3: that are easy to wrap your arms around if you're

2586
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:20,800
Speaker 3: a college.

2587
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 2: Then the funny thing this and I'll try to make

2588
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 2: it quick. If Purdue does it, it's not on precedented

2589
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 2: since stan Virginia did it. However, we talk a lot

2590
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 2: of it in one of the conversations about Zach Edie

2591
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 2: are as pro prospects sure, and they aren't great.

2592
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 6: How great would it be for this to be the pinnacle.

2593
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's not going to have a

2594
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 2: good pro career or whatever the case is, but there

2595
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:43,840
Speaker 2: is that talk of how does he fit into the NBA?

2596
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:46,160
Speaker 2: For him to go out on top like that, I

2597
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 2: think that would probably be the best story.

2598
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 6: Fair NC State. It'd be interesting NC State.

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01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 3: First of all, if NC State were to do it,

2600
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 3: that would obviously match the Kemba Walker run five wins

2601
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,919
Speaker 3: and five days at the at the Conference Tournament national championship,

2602
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:00,600
Speaker 3: but two obviously, then you get a lot of the

2603
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 3: reverential nineteen eighty three stuff. I don't you would know

2604
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 3: better than I would what seed they were or what

2605
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:08,600
Speaker 3: had to happen for them to win. But that's obviously

2606
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 3: one that we're talking about, you know, forty one years later,

2607
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 3: so I can imagine that it would it would have

2608
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:16,280
Speaker 3: much the same if if it continues.

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02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that this run would top what

2610
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 2: they did because of just of what that meant and

2611
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 2: the team that they were facing. But if they were

2612
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:26,040
Speaker 2: to face Yukon, who is set to go for back

2613
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 2: to back national championships, and pull off that upset, it

2614
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:30,600
Speaker 2: may rival.

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02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 6: Beating you know, Fi Slamma Jamo Kema Walker handing a

2616
02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:36,160
Speaker 6: baton to DJ Burns. Hey hit him on Van Aeron

2617
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 6: underscore towards enjoy the final four. Okay, thank you? All right,

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Speaker 6: next Tuesday, all right, there it is.

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Speaker 2: He'll be hanging out with me. I'm Dan Byer. It's

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Speaker 2: been Fox Sports Sunday. Thanks to Monsie, Patrick and Marry

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Speaker 2: and everyone. We'll talk to you next week.