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Speaker 2: filling in for JP Shadrick today. He's already jetted off
Speaker 2: to London without us. Jeff Logman is here with us
Speaker 2: as always in the Hyundai studios as we get ready
Speaker 2: for two games in London, and we're going to talk
Speaker 2: over whatever that is that we saw in week three. Jeff,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen you since I adjusted that.
Speaker 3: Yeah I did, Yeah, I did then, And I actually
Speaker 3: chose to watch the film Sunday night.
Speaker 2: Oh you're you just went for it and I'm already down.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna rewatch this well.
Speaker 3: Two reasons why okay. One is is because of travel
Speaker 3: in the London Fair today. I want to make sure
Speaker 3: that everything's kind of behind you in your head a
Speaker 3: little bit. But also because I wanted to take the
Speaker 3: pain in one day.
Speaker 2: Yes, just get it out of the way. It was
Speaker 2: a tough one and I think everybody was kind of
Speaker 2: just it was a snowball effect, right, because it was
Speaker 2: one thing went wrong, you know, you miss a kick,
Speaker 2: and then the special teams is doing whatever they are doing,
Speaker 2: Agnees fumbling the ball, Calvin's dropping balls. It was everybody,
Speaker 2: and I think that was different for us, at least
Speaker 2: in the other two games, maybe we could say the
Speaker 2: defense was okay, but it was every facet of the game.
Speaker 3: On Sunday it was and I think it really started
Speaker 3: out exactly how you wouldn't want it to start, okay,
Speaker 3: because you've got a Texans team coming in that's injured
Speaker 3: number one, number two, that's a roster that is rebuilding,
Speaker 3: and they have a rookie quarterback. So you felt really
Speaker 3: good about where you were at from that standpoint, at
Speaker 3: least those of us choking from the outside, and the
Speaker 3: offense for the Jaguars has been a little bit clunky,
Speaker 3: So what you would like to have is, I don't
Speaker 3: want to say it fast start, but you want to
Speaker 3: have some success early. And so the first possession that
Speaker 3: you have, which you get after the Jaguars hold the
Speaker 3: Texans to a three and out, you have a great
Speaker 3: matchup opportunity. You got a motion that brings Evan Ingram
Speaker 3: across and you get a linebacker on Calvin Ridley and
Speaker 3: you're going, here.
Speaker 4: We goor was thinking, yeah, and it's the perfect route
Speaker 4: combination because it's kind of a speed fade, you know,
Speaker 4: corner route, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3: And Trevor throws an absolute dime and it hits Calvin
Speaker 3: in the hands and he's not able to catch it,
Speaker 3: and look, it could have happened to anybody. But the
Speaker 3: hard part is is that when you're struggling on offense,
Speaker 3: you go into a game, you're looking for something positive,
Speaker 3: to get the snowball in a positive direction, and it
Speaker 3: doesn't happen. But then it provides hope for a Texans
Speaker 3: team because they turn around on the next possession, they
Speaker 3: catch the Jaguars in a a defensive mistake because you
Speaker 3: get Tank Dell running down the field for a forty
Speaker 3: six yard game. It gives them first and goal inside
Speaker 3: to five. So exactly how you wanted things to go
Speaker 3: early in the ball game, it doesn't happen. You make mistakes,
Speaker 3: you create negative energy for yourself, and then the Texans
Speaker 3: get positive energy on the road in a place that
Speaker 3: they've had great success, and then from there it snowballed
Speaker 3: in the wrong direction, and it felt.
Speaker 2: Like they were really getting in their own heads at
Speaker 2: a certain point because it was just mental mistakes, penalties,
Speaker 2: things that you know, you don't don't normally see out
Speaker 2: of a discipline team. Even on special teams, they're just
Speaker 2: going for the ball because you see the ball on
Speaker 2: the ground when it's like that, do you just is
Speaker 2: it kind of catching? Is just everybody freaking out, like
Speaker 2: is that a mentality on the sideline or what kind
Speaker 2: of happened when all of those things start to go wrong.
Speaker 3: I think football players are humans, sure, so human nature
Speaker 3: is sometimes when things haven't been going well, you have
Speaker 3: that attitude, we're like, oh here we go again, okay,
Speaker 3: And sometimes that's not the right attitude to have, and
Speaker 3: you got to fight it. Well, they appeared to fight
Speaker 3: it and then climb back in the game, but then
Speaker 3: another mistake would set him back. And so every time
Speaker 3: you'd have something positive in that game, something negative happened
Speaker 3: to slow the momentum down, and special teams was guilty,
Speaker 3: defense was guilty, the offense continues to be guilty. And
Speaker 3: until you can make better plays on all three phases
Speaker 3: of the game. I think that you are what you are.
Speaker 3: But I will say this, I think that the negative
Speaker 3: performance by the offense, which the offense struggled a little
Speaker 3: bit with Indianapolis needed defensive help, definitely struggled against the
Speaker 3: Kansas City team. You felt great about. Okay, we held
Speaker 3: kan City sevent team. We should have won that game.
Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, you have an offense
Speaker 3: that makes mistakes early in this ballgame, and I think
Speaker 3: that that affected the defense a little bit and you
Speaker 3: can't let that happen. But it did.
Speaker 2: And we've been hanging our hat or hanging our hat
Speaker 2: but saying we were really what the defense would had
Speaker 2: been able to do so far, and then you know,
Speaker 2: this isn't necessarily a team built on the defense, had
Speaker 2: built on that offense, and a lot of people had
Speaker 2: been giving them credit. On paper, they look like they're
Speaker 2: very talented. Doug Peterson talked a little bit postgame about
Speaker 2: that hype, and maybe some of the players listening to
Speaker 2: what they were hearing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's I think that's real.
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 7: I think that's real.
Speaker 6: And and.
Speaker 7: You know, you know, I've been around this game too
Speaker 7: long to know that you can't you can't live in
Speaker 7: the past or you're gonna you're gonna fail in the future.
Speaker 7: And you know, we've just got to focus one day
Speaker 7: at a time. We got to get better each day
Speaker 7: and can't worry about next week or the week after,
Speaker 7: can't worry about the London trip coming up. We can't
Speaker 7: you know, we just got to focus in on on
Speaker 7: the week at hand. And and you know that that
Speaker 7: that part of it starts with me and making sure
Speaker 7: that the guys are you know, hearing that message, you know,
Speaker 7: loud and clear for me, and and we'll make sure
Speaker 7: that they get that message.
Speaker 2: Jeff, is there a little bit of that, you know
Speaker 2: looking around the room, Hey, we have a bunch of
Speaker 2: talent here. We should be good and not necessarily you know,
Speaker 2: just I'm not saying they're not putting in the work,
Speaker 2: but just assuming things might be easier than they actually are.
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley is new to this offense. He's very talented,
Speaker 2: but he hasn't played football in a while. Andy's new here,
Speaker 2: so to kind of be going to him as much
Speaker 2: as they are, are they forcing that a little bit.
Speaker 3: Possibly, you know, last year, just just a kind of
Speaker 3: overall thought though with the offense and as far as
Speaker 3: you say, well, we thought we were going to be good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, the players sometimes have the Tennessee to externalize that.
Speaker 3: You know, it's the media they're hyping us. Well, you
Speaker 3: know sometimes as players, again human nature, hear it. You
Speaker 3: think you're pretty good, and sometimes when you think you're
Speaker 3: pretty good, you don't put the work in. But I
Speaker 3: will say that this football team worked hard in training,
Speaker 3: absolutely and one of the hardest working teams, so they
Speaker 3: the work is put in, but transitioning from putting the
Speaker 3: work into executing on game day is different. Now you
Speaker 3: have to understand that this is hard. Okay. The guys
Speaker 3: on the other side get paid to and they have talent,
Speaker 3: whether you think they do or you don't. Because it
Speaker 3: would have been easy to follow on the trap against
Speaker 3: the Texans, Well, this team is just you know, it's rebuilding,
Speaker 3: it's got a rookie quarterback. They can't beat us. We're
Speaker 3: just you know, we're too good. Well, it's the NFL.
Speaker 2: It's certainly what we were saying.
Speaker 3: And stay in every given Sunday. But as far as
Speaker 3: the offense and trying to find a rhythm on offense
Speaker 3: last year, I think one of the trademarks of this
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson offense was it was the system. Okay, system,
Speaker 3: system system. Trevor would find the open guy. And we've
Speaker 3: seen in the past with Doug Peterson, even when he
Speaker 3: was in Philadelphia, it wasn't about star individuals. It was
Speaker 3: about the offense and making sure the quarterback delivered the
Speaker 3: ball to open guys. And I think anytime you have
Speaker 3: a Calvin Ridley or a Justin Jefferson, or you know,
Speaker 3: one of the great receivers in the league that we
Speaker 3: see occasionally on highlights and sometimes in person, you always
Speaker 3: feel the need to feed that player because they're great
Speaker 3: for a reason, and so you should feed that player.
Speaker 3: But you have to have a balance for that, and
Speaker 3: it also has to be earned. You know, Calvin Ridley
Speaker 3: hasn't played football in a long time prior to the
Speaker 3: first game in Indianapolis, and so I think even he
Speaker 3: has to earn that respect and to earn that ball
Speaker 3: coming his way of a high percentage of times compared
Speaker 3: to other people. And was there maybe a little bit
Speaker 3: of overestimating that maybe, But you know the great thing
Speaker 3: is is that, look, this is a long season. Getting
Speaker 3: ready to start game number four here, this week, and
Speaker 3: you've got plenty of time the rights you ship, because
Speaker 3: it's not about where you're at week two or week three.
Speaker 3: It's about trying to find that rhythm and that role
Speaker 3: that you can get to into the postseason. So there's time,
Speaker 3: but it's not like there's a luxury of time. I mean,
Speaker 3: sooner or later you've got to start turning the corner
Speaker 3: and start showing them some signs. But I definitely think
Speaker 3: that there needs to be I will tell you this
Speaker 3: guy in that game against Houston, I said in our broadcast,
Speaker 3: at what point do you think about taking Calvin Ridley out?
Speaker 2: I thought that that might be a possibility because at
Speaker 2: a certain point we talked about I know Doug had
Speaker 2: talked about the whole team pressing, but Calvin feels like
Speaker 2: he's pressing. He's putting as much pressure on himself and
Speaker 2: hyping him, psyching himself out. It seems like at times, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that like like he gets benched.
Speaker 2: Oh no, certainly not. It's just even great player, you're
Speaker 2: gonna get him open by going to other people and
Speaker 2: then going back to him rather than throwing him every
Speaker 2: single time in double coverage. Yes, he is capable of
Speaker 2: making those catches and making those plays. He's not right now,
Speaker 2: but maybe don't force it. If he's double covered, somebody
Speaker 2: else should be open.
Speaker 3: Right well, and sometimes you got to calm this.
Speaker 2: World down absolutely.
Speaker 3: And and and show the players also on the team. Hey, look,
Speaker 3: you know the reality is it's a bottom line business. Okay.
Speaker 3: Productivity is one of the three key components of being
Speaker 3: a good player in this league. And he was not
Speaker 3: productive in that game, you know, with the false starts,
Speaker 3: the couple drops and the one that was early was
Speaker 3: was obviously big, but he wasn't the only one that
Speaker 3: made mistakes. But of course, you know, at some point
Speaker 3: you got to start thinking, okay, what's the best thing
Speaker 3: for our team? And I thought in that game, maybe
Speaker 3: they were going to just take them out just to
Speaker 3: let them take a deep breath.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I think that might have been a
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Speaker 2: now in terms of things with Trevor, He's been throwing
Speaker 2: some great balls, but we saw a little frustration at
Speaker 2: the end of the game throwing that pick. He talked
Speaker 2: postgame on Sunday about wanting to be a little more
Speaker 2: vocal with his teammates.
Speaker 8: We got great players that have proven that they can
Speaker 8: play and play well in this league, and for some
Speaker 8: reason right now, it's just not all clicking and we
Speaker 8: gotta we gotta figure that out. And I think leading
Speaker 8: and just and still in confidence in those guys, but also,
Speaker 8: like I said, that sense of urgency of it's not
Speaker 8: all right, all right, we're getting to the point where
Speaker 8: it's not okay, Like it's I get it and I'm
Speaker 8: gonna miss some throws and you guys hold me accountable.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna There's gonna be plays that I want back.
Speaker 8: There's you know, three or four today that I went
Speaker 8: back where I didn't do my job, and I expect
Speaker 8: the coaches to hold me accountable, and they will. And
Speaker 8: I'm gonna hold the white outs of tight ends, the
Speaker 8: running backs to o line accountable as well for stuff
Speaker 8: that you know, they're not doing the best in their job.
Speaker 8: So we all no one can get their feelings hurt,
Speaker 8: and we don't have guys that do. But we all
Speaker 8: have to have that accountability, and I think that's the
Speaker 8: biggest thing, and we all have to lead in that
Speaker 8: way of taking accountability for what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Jeff Doug had the locker room closed for for a
Speaker 2: good chunk of time after the game against the Texans
Speaker 2: that I don't know, said, I can imagine, but is
Speaker 2: this the point where some of the players, some of
Speaker 2: the guys need to be like, all right, guys, let's
Speaker 2: let's cut it out. We got to figure this out
Speaker 2: and do what we need to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you need a moment, you know, when you
Speaker 3: have disappointment and you didn't meet your own expectations, and
Speaker 3: so sometimes a little bit of quiet time will help.
Speaker 3: By the way, how about the shirt Trevor's got on there.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I loved that out there there
Speaker 2: matching shorts as well. I mean, obviously it's not as
Speaker 2: good when you don't win. But on the way to
Speaker 2: the game, I was like, Oh, we're gonna do great today.
Speaker 3: Mean, Styalin was looking it was good, looking good, But uh,
Speaker 3: sometimes you need time after a game like that to
Speaker 3: reflect a little bit and let it, let it soak
Speaker 3: in sure, disappointment. Allowing it to marinate a little bit
Speaker 3: after a game is good and and sometimes it's also
Speaker 3: good from a from a media availability standpoint that look,
Speaker 3: let these guys take a deep breath before they get
Speaker 3: in front of the camera, maybe say something that they regret,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, so that's just part of the deal.
Speaker 3: But you know the great thing about this situation is
Speaker 3: is that you've got Doug Peterson at the home who
Speaker 3: I have full confidence in. And this is not his
Speaker 3: first rodeo, certainly not talking about a first year head coach. Okay,
Speaker 3: he has been around the league for a long time
Speaker 3: and he's experienced in moments like this. He dealt with
Speaker 3: it last year, and so I believe that he will
Speaker 3: turn this team around. How good will they be, I
Speaker 3: don't know, but I believe that they will be again
Speaker 3: contending for the division title and then be contenders at
Speaker 3: the end of the season. But they've got work to do,
Speaker 3: yes they do, and serious work to do.
Speaker 2: And they run out of that. It's new. It's the
Speaker 2: beginning of the season. Excuse for now in week four,
Speaker 2: and you gotta figure it out. At this point. All right,
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Speaker 7: I grabbed him actually, you know, coming off the field,
Speaker 7: and I just just reiterated to him that, you know,
Speaker 7: take a deep breath, stay locked in, stay engaged. I
Speaker 7: told him he was a big part of part of
Speaker 7: our system and the offense and he's going to have
Speaker 7: a lot of success, and just wanted to reiterate that
Speaker 7: confidence in him. Excuse me, and really and Trevor does
Speaker 7: a great job of that too, of getting with those guys,
Speaker 7: and you know, Calvin, Calvin wants to do.
Speaker 6: So well, so good, so much.
Speaker 7: He wants to prove, you know, and he doesn't have
Speaker 7: to he's a good player and he doesn't have to
Speaker 7: do I'll just be Calvin. And so those are the
Speaker 7: things that we're trying to just get him to do.
Speaker 7: Just relax, focus on his job and the and the
Speaker 7: plays that you know, have his number attached to him.
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Speaker 2: Shadrick Jeff Logman still here with us as we get
Speaker 2: Happy Hour underway. And that was head coach Doug Peterson
Speaker 2: talking a little bit. We had touched on Calvin Ridley
Speaker 2: pressing a little bit, you know, some of those drops
Speaker 2: getting in his own head, and we talked a little
Speaker 2: bit about the offense maybe you know, involving him but
Speaker 2: not always going to him as the number one target,
Speaker 2: because he's probably going to be best when he can
Speaker 2: just kind of run out of nowhere and get himself open,
Speaker 2: and if you focus elsewhere, that should open him up.
Speaker 3: He's a talented player, and look, you got to remember
Speaker 3: that he had a lot of time away from football, yes,
Speaker 3: and so getting back into it. Look, it's not without missteps,
Speaker 3: and so I think that he'll be fine, but it
Speaker 3: will take a little bit of time to get back
Speaker 3: up to speed. And I think part of this kind
Speaker 3: of evolution with him in this offense also is finding
Speaker 3: a comfort zone for everybody. And when you have a
Speaker 3: new player that has the talent of his stature, I
Speaker 3: think press Taylor and Doug Peterson and Trevor, they all
Speaker 3: got to find a comfort level on when he needs
Speaker 3: to get the ball and when you need to let
Speaker 3: the ball go elsewhere. That's all part of the process.
Speaker 3: And you know, the one thing I think I have
Speaker 3: great respect for is Trevor's ability to lead and Trevor smart.
Speaker 3: He figures things out. The good thing and all this,
Speaker 3: I think Trevor has been pretty good.
Speaker 2: I believe so as well. Specifically when things aren't going great.
Speaker 2: Other than maybe that one interception, he hasn't been making errors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the interception, you're pressing a little bit, and linebacker
Speaker 3: tracked him pretty good bit as far as staring his
Speaker 3: But you know, when you're at that point of the
Speaker 3: ball game, you're trying to force something to happen, make
Speaker 3: something to happen, So, yeah, you're pressing a little bit.
Speaker 3: The game before against Kansas City, Trevor was not at
Speaker 3: his best. But I mean, Trevor overall this year has
Speaker 3: been pretty good. Got to get the offensive line to
Speaker 3: play better as well. Running game part of this, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Running Game showed some good signs though in this past game.
Speaker 2: If there is a bright spot, I will have to
Speaker 2: say the Running Game so far has been looking good.
Speaker 2: Traves Etn just looks he's adding to his repertoire a
Speaker 2: little bit, right. Just I don't know if he feels
Speaker 2: he can expand his game a little bit differently, or
Speaker 2: if he's just you know, purely healthy now or whatever
Speaker 2: it is, but he looks a little bit different.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He's the one thing about Travis when he was
Speaker 3: a first year player, which was last year, even though
Speaker 3: it wasn't his rookie year yeah after Yeah, was he
Speaker 3: was trying to hit the hole so fast and a
Speaker 3: lot of times he didn't have the patience that allowed
Speaker 3: the vision and everything else to take over. Now he's
Speaker 3: having And they use this term before speed through the hole,
Speaker 3: not to the hole, and you're really seeing that, and
Speaker 3: they were preaching that with him all pre season, and
Speaker 3: you can see that it's paying off because when he
Speaker 3: goes through a hole, it's happening. And what who benefits
Speaker 3: from that? First of all, he does, but second of all,
Speaker 3: the blocking system does because blocks don't have to be
Speaker 3: held as long when he's rolling through that hole at
Speaker 3: a high rate of speed, and it was encouraging, even
Speaker 3: though it's hard to see it. Sometimes when when the
Speaker 3: team doesn't play well, the first thing you want to
Speaker 3: do is everything's bad. We're terrible, we have clunky offense.
Speaker 3: We're not going to be better. White a minute. The
Speaker 3: offensive line did better in the run blocking game. The
Speaker 3: run game was so much better, and that I think
Speaker 3: took a lot of pressure off of Trevor. And also
Speaker 3: Etn was involved in the passing game, so I think
Speaker 3: there was if there was a positive end that game,
Speaker 3: and you want to you need something to seek your
Speaker 3: teeth into. The Jaguars offense got better in that aspect,
Speaker 3: and I thought they got a little bit better in
Speaker 3: pass protection as well. Not against as a formidable front
Speaker 3: okay in Houston, Okay, And I understand that. Then I
Speaker 3: don't want to take away all the excitement there, but
Speaker 3: that's what you need to have, is to take steps.
Speaker 2: When we look at this offensive line, We've been talking
Speaker 2: about this at nauseum. I feel like at this point,
Speaker 2: but is it getting better? What will is Cam coming
Speaker 2: back going to help? Because you can shift some things around.
Speaker 2: Where do you look at how it is right now,
Speaker 2: because it's not where it needs to be for this
Speaker 2: offense to be as successful as we want them to be.
Speaker 3: It's a great question what happens when Cam comes back?
Speaker 3: And and also the question is what do you do
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the meantime, Walker Little, I.
Speaker 3: Think is playing very well left tackle. And what's amazing.
Speaker 3: And I think that's like his fifth or second, fifth
Speaker 3: or sixth start of the regular season tackle that's it.
Speaker 3: I know, we forget that, you know, and a lot
Speaker 3: of people don't realize that. I mean playing left tackles hard.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of studs out there that
Speaker 3: left tackles got a block. And he's still a very
Speaker 3: young player as far as time spent on task, and
Speaker 3: so that's been impressive and he's probably been the best
Speaker 3: offensive lineman so far. The inside guy struggled against Kansas City,
Speaker 3: they struggled against Indianapolis. Got to remember now, though, Okay,
Speaker 3: there was ninety five and ninety and ninety nine. Okay,
Speaker 3: these three guys, and two of them in Indianapolis, one
Speaker 3: of them with Kansas City, Chris Jones, the Forrest Buckner
Speaker 3: and then Grover Stewart. I mean, three excellent players. There,
Speaker 3: and they struggled up front, as most teams do a
Speaker 3: little bit, but they've got to settle down. And I
Speaker 3: think Bartch has got to play better than he did
Speaker 3: this past game. He struggled a little bit and needs
Speaker 3: sheriff to get a little stronger. Anton needs to play better,
Speaker 3: but he's a rookie. He will. And the question is
Speaker 3: is that if you're not satisfied with where they're at,
Speaker 3: do you consider doing something else?
Speaker 5: And do they That's real?
Speaker 3: I think that's real. And as coaches, I think you
Speaker 3: have to look at everything. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: you should or you shouldn't do it. But you got
Speaker 3: a guy in Shatley who started I think twelve games
Speaker 3: last year, who did a really good job. And oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, you were thinking about replace them with
Speaker 3: Walker little throughout the season, and you know what, you
Speaker 3: couldn't because he played that well. Well, he's there and
Speaker 3: he's still on your roster. So do you consider playing Shatley?
Speaker 3: And when I say consider playing him, do you consider
Speaker 3: playing him at left guard or center center? Yeah, because
Speaker 3: he can play both. I think that'll be an trusting you. See,
Speaker 3: I think you're most likely the coaching staff will have
Speaker 3: little patients. But as uh as the wins don't stack up,
Speaker 3: patients starts to wane.
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Speaker 2: fair about this. I wanted to bring it up. Now.
Speaker 2: Special teams, which I had been heralding for weeks now,
Speaker 2: they fell apart on Sunday. What was going on with that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a little bit of everybody.
Speaker 3: Wasn't wasn't their best outing, It wasn't. The reality is
Speaker 3: is that special team so far this year has been
Speaker 3: a positive.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and probably swung that game for them, you know,
Speaker 2: Agnew's return against the Colts probably otherwise they're zero to three.
Speaker 2: Maybe if made them and you know, and they didn't
Speaker 2: capitalize on it. But getting the kick return in the
Speaker 2: red zone against the Chiefs that should have been a
Speaker 2: touchdown that was not. But yeah, I mean, and it
Speaker 2: was a little bit of So you bring in McManus
Speaker 2: because you want a veteran kicker that you can trust.
Speaker 2: He misses his first kick and then another one's blocked
Speaker 2: which obviously isn't his fault, but it was just when
Speaker 2: it rains at pours with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a tough day. And again it's not
Speaker 3: all Brandon McManus's fault, and he had a tough day
Speaker 3: for multiple reasons. One because on the blockfield goal he
Speaker 3: got involved in the scrum and the scramble for the ball,
Speaker 3: and then on the kick return for a touchdown, he's
Speaker 3: trying to he's trying to run to chase down the
Speaker 3: full back slash tight end that's making the return.
Speaker 2: It's never good when the kickers trying to make the
Speaker 2: tackle at the end.
Speaker 3: You don't want kickers having to play football, Okay, kickers,
Speaker 3: you want kicking and that's it. But you know a
Speaker 3: couple you know missfires by Jaguar special teams. The let
Speaker 3: start with the blockfield goal. All blockfield goals defense or
Speaker 3: opponents typically will attack one guy, okay, and you send
Speaker 3: three at one guy and say you have the guy
Speaker 3: in the middle and then one guy on each side.
Speaker 3: The guy in the middle literally goes after one guy
Speaker 3: right down the middle and tries to punch him in
Speaker 3: the nose. And then you send a guy on his inside,
Speaker 3: and then you send a guy on his outside, okay,
Speaker 3: and the guy down the middle is trying to, you know,
Speaker 3: punch him in the nose so that he can't block
Speaker 3: those two guys on either side, and the Walker Little
Speaker 3: was the target. So they went after Walker Little with
Speaker 3: the guy down the middle of the guy to the
Speaker 3: inside happened to be Anderson Junior, the third overall pick
Speaker 3: of the draft for the Texans, and Anton Harrison, who
Speaker 3: is the tackle right beside Walker Little, kind of lunges
Speaker 3: for just a little bit, just a little bit. Well,
Speaker 3: then when Walker Little gets punched in the nose, and
Speaker 3: I use that he gets hit, okay, his right leg
Speaker 3: kind of loses its placement and it swings open just
Speaker 3: a little bit, just enough space. So now you have
Speaker 3: Anton Harrison just a little bit forward Walker a little
Speaker 3: with a little opening of the gate and then there
Speaker 3: goes will Anderson Junior right through and gets two hands
Speaker 3: to block the kick. And that's unfortunate. It gave the
Speaker 3: Texans great field position and it took points off of
Speaker 3: the board for you, you know, the kickoff return for a touchdown,
Speaker 3: you had a major faux Paul. You had an excellent
Speaker 3: mortar kick, which is a high hangar. That put the
Speaker 3: Texans exactly where you wanted them where they were having
Speaker 3: confusion and who's going to fill the ball the returner
Speaker 3: or up back. I mean, that's perfect, right, And the
Speaker 3: ball's floundering around on the ground a little bit. Well,
Speaker 3: the left side of the Jaguars coverage kickoff team starts
Speaker 3: to collapse, and when they start to collapse, they lose
Speaker 3: a little bit of leverage. Okay, and so they all
Speaker 3: take shots. But you got to remember they're trying to
Speaker 3: figure out who's going to pick the ball up, right,
Speaker 3: So that means that the guys that are coming down
Speaker 3: the field out of control.
Speaker 2: Flying by because that the fullback's bracing to get hit
Speaker 2: and the three guys run right by him.
Speaker 3: And the three guys were I think weren't sure when
Speaker 3: we say three guys, Okay, it was Daniel Thomas Harris,
Speaker 3: think Harris who was elevated off of the practice squad,
Speaker 3: and then the linebacker Caleb Johnson. So those three guys,
Speaker 3: so they all take a shot, and I'm sure they're
Speaker 3: trying to figure out who's going to pick up the ball.
Speaker 3: And so now they're coming in out of control trying
Speaker 3: to figure out who's picking up the ball. They all miss.
Speaker 3: Now you got a safety in Trey Herndon, who now
Speaker 3: is kind of the last layer of defense. He's the
Speaker 3: safety okay on that second layer. And he doesn't do
Speaker 3: a great job. Okay, his angle's bad and the full
Speaker 3: back out runs him to the boundary and then it's
Speaker 3: a foot race and this full back and give him credit. Now,
Speaker 3: Andrew Beck did a good job, okay, and actually showed
Speaker 3: some pretty good speed and everybody's kind of making fun
Speaker 3: of him about him being a fullback. I gotta give
Speaker 3: him credit. He was running pretty fast.
Speaker 2: He did not right for himself. I mean, it wasn't
Speaker 2: complete embarrassing. It wasn't like alignment picked it up.
Speaker 3: And I thought he was better than all right, I
Speaker 3: thought he was really good. Give him credit now. So
Speaker 3: but that was unfortunate because the Jaguars were starting to
Speaker 3: get back into that ball game, and then that play
Speaker 3: happens and and once again there goes the wind out
Speaker 3: of your sales or the life getting sucked out.
Speaker 6: Of you again.
Speaker 2: Just an absolute momentum killer when you're on special teams
Speaker 2: like that. Is that another human nature thing where the
Speaker 2: ball's out and everybody kind of just runs towards it,
Speaker 2: or did people in a discipline thing or am I
Speaker 2: read well.
Speaker 3: No, you bring up a great point about a discipline.
Speaker 2: Thing, because you got to stay your spot right.
Speaker 3: You have ten coverage guys on kickoff, let's ignore the kicker.
Speaker 2: Kickers kick right, yes, hopefully not making tackles. Yes.
Speaker 3: So then you have ten guys that are running down
Speaker 3: the field. You have typically two safety valves. So now
Speaker 3: you have eight okay, that are running down the field,
Speaker 3: four on the left side, four on the right side,
Speaker 3: two safeties and a kicker that you don't want to
Speaker 3: have be involved. So the guys that are on the
Speaker 3: left side, the four they need to make sure that
Speaker 3: the ball is a is are running down the field.
Speaker 3: The ball stays on their right because if they miss,
Speaker 3: there's four other guys on the right side that are
Speaker 3: going to help them. Okay, just like the right side
Speaker 3: guys when they go down the field, they want to
Speaker 3: keep the ball on their left because they know the
Speaker 3: left side guys are going to be there. Well when
Speaker 3: they come down the field. The three guys that kind
Speaker 3: of collapse on the left side, Okay, Harris and Daniel
Speaker 3: Thomas and Caleb Johnson they all took a shot and
Speaker 3: then once they missed, Okay, now that whole left side
Speaker 3: is completely collapsing in the middle of the coverage team
Speaker 3: had actually already started to drift to the right where
Speaker 3: a return was actually set up to be returned. That
Speaker 3: was the planned return side of the Texan Wodgels the
Speaker 3: other side of the field. So so yeah, partly self
Speaker 3: inflicted bad angles and then just flat out missus.
Speaker 2: And just tough timing in the game too, because then
Speaker 2: it just very tough out of the sale at that point.
Speaker 2: And then also I think that tank Dell pass that C. J.
Speaker 2: Stroud had was another one where I think had they
Speaker 2: gotten it within ten again after the fact, and then
Speaker 2: it was well the one late, Yeah, that late one.
Speaker 2: That was another that was probably your dagger where you're
Speaker 2: just like ends over and.
Speaker 3: That one hurt in a big way because Okay, you're
Speaker 3: you're essentially it's a two man route. Okay, Texans only
Speaker 3: have two wide receivers out on this particular play, I believe,
Speaker 3: and you're you have confusion. There's a bunch formation, which
Speaker 3: a bunch formation for people that don't know, you basically
Speaker 3: get three Texans wide receivers that are standing close together
Speaker 3: and the Jaguars are playing man covered, so you need
Speaker 3: to identify who you got. So Kayath and you are
Speaker 3: covering the two microphones in front of us, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: look at you and say.
Speaker 6: I got that one.
Speaker 3: Okay, you got that one?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Okay. There wasn't any of that communication. They just went
Speaker 3: over there on the Jaguars defensive side of the field.
Speaker 3: So you ended up having two guys, which was Trey
Speaker 3: Herndon and Darius Williams covering this Tank Dell guy or
Speaker 3: excuse me, not covering Tank Dell. They both went to it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they went to a guy that was in the flat
Speaker 3: and then when Tank Dell turned it up, he was
Speaker 3: all alone. And you know, again, communication that there is
Speaker 3: not a physical air.
Speaker 5: That's a mental air just lapses if not in the
Speaker 5: rental lace.
Speaker 2: Yep, it's tough to combat a mental error, that's for sure.
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Speaker 7: We have to do better.
Speaker 6: We have to do better.
Speaker 7: Starts up front, starts with the offensive line on offense,
Speaker 7: starts with the defensive line on defense.
Speaker 6: It starts right there. Again, I'm gonna say this again.
Speaker 6: We need to coach better.
Speaker 7: We need to play better.
Speaker 6: We need to execute better.
Speaker 7: Whether we are reading our press clippings, we need to
Speaker 7: get out of our own way right now. We need
Speaker 7: to evaluate ourselves, beginning with me, and we got to
Speaker 7: figure out how to win a game.
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Speaker 2: Doug Peterson seemed like he was lost for words in
Speaker 2: that moment after the game, a man who has never
Speaker 2: lost for words. Brian Sexton joins us now on the
Speaker 2: Happy Hour, thinking he's not my problem stopping this, and
Speaker 2: Doug's usually not lost for words either. Brian and I
Speaker 2: think he was just as dumbfounded as we were to
Speaker 2: a certain degree about all of the mistakes in that
Speaker 2: game against the Texans and just how bad it got
Speaker 2: so quickly.
Speaker 5: I just stopped writing them down.
Speaker 9: I mean I filled up a whole piece of paper
Speaker 9: and at one point I said, I don't know that
Speaker 9: I've ever seen anything like this. I think I stopped
Speaker 9: when the two hundred and fifty five pound full back.
Speaker 9: By the way, do you know this, he is the
Speaker 9: heaviest person in NFL history to return a kick for
Speaker 9: a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Jeff was just saying he thought he's pretty fast, so
Speaker 2: impressive now that he's the biggest guy.
Speaker 3: But there was a call years ago that Brian called
Speaker 3: out of defensive lineman. Look at that fat guy run.
Speaker 5: That was Keith Traylor in Chicageah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it wasn't that, No, well it kind of was,
Speaker 9: but it was a fumble recovery, not a kickoff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I remember it was a But when you
Speaker 3: talk about you.
Speaker 9: Mentioned something about the baby elephant walk. I was trying
Speaker 9: to be funny. It didn't work, but thanks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was funny and Wayne laughed too.
Speaker 5: But I got a lot of help for that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, oh goodness. We talked a little bit about
Speaker 2: this on jags Am that it was all facets of
Speaker 2: the game that messed up against the Texans. It wasn't
Speaker 2: just you know, the offense again, special teams were touched
Speaker 2: on that, and then the defense, for the first time
Speaker 2: this season, really did not This is a new show.
Speaker 9: I haven't done the show. So can I just throw
Speaker 9: my wild theory out and you will? I think maybe
Speaker 9: I've said it to both of you. Doug came into
Speaker 9: his press conference before the Chiefs game on Wednesday, and
Speaker 9: Doug is an affable guy. He's got a quick wit
Speaker 9: to him.
Speaker 5: He seems to enjoy a little bit of banter.
Speaker 9: That Wednesday, Jeff he came in and he gripped both
Speaker 9: sides of the podium and he didn't really look up,
Speaker 9: and he talked kind of like this, and I said, somebody,
Speaker 9: something that's wrong, and ah Na, you're reading too much
Speaker 9: into it. I went, just something doesn't feel right. And
Speaker 9: then they didn't play all that well on offense, which
Speaker 9: I mean, I think if we thought they were gonna
Speaker 9: play well against Kana City with thought of them in defense, right,
Speaker 9: but the defense plays great in the offense, where are they,
Speaker 9: I mean, nowhere to be found?
Speaker 5: Three field goals? And then last week, I mean, just
Speaker 5: the cascading effective mistake, mistake, mistake, mistake, mistake.
Speaker 9: It just kept going there's something off about this team
Speaker 9: and I can't put my finger on it. And maybe
Speaker 9: it's confidence, and you know, maybe they just are are
Speaker 9: like a like a bunch of teenagers who don't know
Speaker 9: how to get out of their own way, which is.
Speaker 5: A phrase that Doug has used. I don't know, but
Speaker 5: it's tough for me to figure it out.
Speaker 3: I think sometimes we overcomplicate it. It's I think it's
Speaker 3: pretty simple and that the player, the players that are
Speaker 3: out there, when given the opportunity, just need to make
Speaker 3: the plays that are there number one, number two, don't
Speaker 3: make the mistakes. I mean six penalties in this ball game,
Speaker 3: which you had six the least penalized team in the
Speaker 3: league going into that game, and then you equal that
Speaker 3: total in one game. And then you got to have
Speaker 3: some energy, and that energy is created from with them.
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
Speaker 5: But why can't they I mean, that's my question.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 9: I mean, we all were excited for this team to
Speaker 9: start the season because we thought, based on last year
Speaker 9: and what we saw in August, that we would see something.
Speaker 9: If we're excited about it, what did they know that
Speaker 9: we don't? Why are they unable to generate that.
Speaker 3: Well. Sometimes last year it starts with just one play, okay,
Speaker 3: and then okay, now let's make another positive play. You know,
Speaker 3: I go back to guy in ninety six game. Brian
Speaker 3: was there for that and that we were struggling as
Speaker 3: a football team and it was not good, and we
Speaker 3: kind of overcomplicated the situation. Then we just said, all right, look,
Speaker 3: let's let's block everything out and let's focus on this game.
Speaker 3: Let's focus on one play at a time. We just
Speaker 3: started stacking plays. And all of a sudden, we started
Speaker 3: stacking plays and start of ignoring the big picture and
Speaker 3: started to live in the moment and tried to excel
Speaker 3: in the moment. And then all of a sudden, the
Speaker 3: big picture stuff just started to come together because we
Speaker 3: were putting play after play together and then we started
Speaker 3: to win.
Speaker 9: Him he won't tell you this because he's far too modest,
Speaker 9: but he was the guy that made the play. Late
Speaker 9: in the ballgame at the Old Memorial Stadium in Baltimore
Speaker 9: against Vinnie Testaverdi and the Ravens, he came up with
Speaker 9: a fumble fumble recovery that gave the Jaguars a.
Speaker 5: Chance to tie it.
Speaker 9: And score the two point conversion and send the game
Speaker 9: into overtime, and it started a seven game winning streak
Speaker 9: all the way to the AFC Championship game. So you
Speaker 9: know exactly what you speak of. They were four and
Speaker 9: seven that year, Kai and the coach was under fire.
Speaker 9: The word in the street really was it. They didn't
Speaker 9: the players didn't like Tom Coughlin, didn't like playing for him.
Speaker 9: They cut Andre Rising. You remember at the circus. I
Speaker 9: mean it felt like the whole thing was melting down
Speaker 9: and they were going to fire Tom and they were
Speaker 9: going to move on. And then, as Jeff said, made
Speaker 9: a play, made another one the next week in the rain.
Speaker 9: They come home from Baltimore and Cincinnati and can't do
Speaker 9: any They score field goals, but the defense plays well.
Speaker 9: I mean, it was just that's what it takes. So
Speaker 9: who on this team Jeff is capable of making that play?
Speaker 3: Quarterback?
Speaker 5: Okay, it has to be him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, it doesn't have to be him, But
Speaker 3: at the quarterback and to me, the quarterback, excuse me,
Speaker 3: Travis Etn Christian Kirk Gridley. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of guys that are capable, but the man that's delivering
Speaker 3: it yeah, has got to be the guy, and I
Speaker 3: believe he can be the guy.
Speaker 9: So last week, at one point, kay, maybe it was
Speaker 9: after the first touchdown, he came to the sidelines and
Speaker 9: Doug met him. Do you remember and Doug said something
Speaker 9: and he kind of gestured Trevor did, and Doug said, no, no,
Speaker 9: everyone relaxed, Just make everyone relax. And it seemed like
Speaker 9: for the first time he was relaxed. Have you noticed
Speaker 9: that about him? The offense wasn't great against the Colts,
Speaker 9: and then it didn't show up against Kansas City. Do
Speaker 9: you think Trevor, who has been in the spotlight since
Speaker 9: he was in middle school, has struggled this year with
Speaker 9: just calming himself down.
Speaker 3: No, I think you know, this past game he impressed me. Okay,
Speaker 3: and so, but I think every year is different, and
Speaker 3: there's always an adjustment when you have a change of components,
Speaker 3: and even when you return the same components, you know,
Speaker 3: because everybody's at a little different level, whether it's one.
Speaker 3: I mean, even though let's start to say, for example,
Speaker 3: that there was no Calvin Ridley, you still have to
Speaker 3: develop chemistry for this year with the guys that are
Speaker 3: out there, Christian Kirk and Jay Jones and Evan Ingram.
Speaker 3: You still have to establish that. So every year is different,
Speaker 3: and every year you have to establish things just from
Speaker 3: the beginning like they never happened before. And I think
Speaker 3: Trevor's just in that process, that's all.
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Speaker 2: Jeff Logerman is here. As always we've been ragging on everybody.
Speaker 2: We should probably spread the wealth a little bit and
Speaker 2: talk about the defense because they had been playing better
Speaker 2: than we thought. But also, where's this past rush we've
Speaker 2: been talking about?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: They said they were going to keep with their guys
Speaker 2: and look at me like.
Speaker 9: I have the answer, tell us, I don't know where
Speaker 9: it is. And Jeff, that to me may have been
Speaker 9: the most maddening part of that game. I mean, that
Speaker 9: was an offensive line playing without Laramie Tunsel, who who
Speaker 9: didn't even travel. Uh at Tyas Howard, you know the
Speaker 9: right tackles on injured reserve. Uh, they're playing with the
Speaker 9: backup left guard. They're playing with the backup center. And
Speaker 9: and the Jaguars got no pressure at all. Were they
Speaker 9: too stubborn about it? We're going to get there with four?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 5: No, the second half when they started.
Speaker 3: Saying, I don't think so, because when they ended up
Speaker 3: trying to bring pressure, they got burned. It kind of
Speaker 3: got backfired in their face a little bit. But I
Speaker 3: will say the right tackle that played for the Texas
Speaker 3: George fan, good football player.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right.
Speaker 3: And there was some backups and one of the guy
Speaker 3: that was a backup left guard.
Speaker 5: Was a former first last year.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm with you. Left tackle was a guy
Speaker 3: that normally plays left guard. The center's a six round
Speaker 3: pick rookie. Okay, let's beat him up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Also, Stroud's been sacked eleven times in the first two games.
Speaker 2: Hits there. He stays in the pocket. He's not running
Speaker 2: away from the hits.
Speaker 3: Let me let me say this though, I think we're
Speaker 3: in for a long haul with CJ.
Speaker 5: Struts.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, you know what I mean. But before
Speaker 3: we start looking at ourselves and saying, you know, what
Speaker 3: did we do wrong, let's give credit where credit is due.
Speaker 2: He fully took advantage of those opportunities.
Speaker 3: I love his college film. I said this for all
Speaker 3: the draft stuff that we did that I said he
Speaker 3: would be my quarterback of I was picking picking first overall,
Speaker 3: just because he has so much arm talent and you
Speaker 3: have to defend the entire field. Well, now you add
Speaker 3: a football IQ that he clearly has and a calmness
Speaker 3: in the pocket. That's a dangerous combination. And so give
Speaker 3: him credit. He played outstanding and his throws are just effortless.
Speaker 5: I mean he said that last weekend.
Speaker 3: You're right, I watched that effortless.
Speaker 2: He says all the right things too. He's going to
Speaker 2: be a perfect franchise quarterback. I watched some of his availabilities.
Speaker 2: He's just talking, you know, talking about making his teammates better.
Speaker 3: You watched this press conference last week, yes.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I would want this to be
Speaker 2: my quarterback. Nothing against Trevor. I'm just saying if that
Speaker 2: was my team, I'd be happy with the choice they made. Also,
Speaker 2: he was talking, They asked someone innocently asked him about
Speaker 2: the Jaguars defense, and he listed off every single starter
Speaker 2: on the defense by name and number, and.
Speaker 3: He gave him numbers I know, and he told me
Speaker 3: you want names.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And by the way, that was on a Wednesday. Okay,
Speaker 3: this was not Thursday or and this was not Friday,
Speaker 3: which could be Wednesday.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're getting ricky quarterbacks, some of the
Speaker 2: hardest thing is learning how to study film. And he's
Speaker 2: already scouted the team.
Speaker 3: I've heard he's a football junkie and he definitely has
Speaker 3: football IQ. I know there was a lot of criticism
Speaker 3: about around him when he was being drafted and all that,
Speaker 3: and I don't know who came up with that, but
Speaker 3: that was inaccurate.
Speaker 9: You're right, long Haul. I have the same feeling about
Speaker 9: him that I had. The Jaguars beat Deshaun Watson when
Speaker 9: they first saw him. Remember he played the second half
Speaker 9: of the twenty seventeen opener because they had ten sacks
Speaker 9: in that game and knocked the other guy out, the
Speaker 9: other guy whose name I can't remember. And I had
Speaker 9: the answer, great question. He was a kid from pitt Yes,
Speaker 9: Dan something or other, and he was just to fill
Speaker 9: in until the rookie was ready, and the rookie was
Speaker 9: ready in the second half, and DeShawn then we didn't
Speaker 9: beat him again, right, I mean, we didn't touch him
Speaker 9: again until he left and was suspended.
Speaker 3: So but I will say that I'd never had that
Speaker 3: feeling with Deshaun Watson, like watching his college film and
Speaker 3: then watching him in the pro game, went oh, we
Speaker 3: got a long decade here of this guy. When I
Speaker 3: watched c J. Stroud, I go, jeez, which is gonna
Speaker 3: be some incredible battles Trevor Lawrence versus c J. Strauss. Sure,
Speaker 3: because right now, I mean this obviously this is a
Speaker 3: quarterback league. It appears that the Jaguars have a quarterback,
Speaker 3: Texans now have a quarterback, and the other teams don't.
Speaker 9: I like how you say appears, I mean because you
Speaker 9: still are waiting. You are still waiting for more evidence.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 9: You know, long playing career, long broadcasting career. You want
Speaker 9: to see more. What do you want to see more.
Speaker 3: Of out of this team or out of c J. Stroud?
Speaker 5: No, of this quarterback of Trevor. You want to see
Speaker 5: him carry this out.
Speaker 3: First of all, a quarterback of the great quarterbacks elevate
Speaker 3: everybody around them, everybody.
Speaker 5: Which I think he did at the end of last year.
Speaker 3: Which they do it in two ways. They do it
Speaker 3: by their performance, right, and they also do it by
Speaker 3: their leadership. Okay, Okay, in the huddle, in the locker room, set,
Speaker 3: in the temple, all season wise, those are what the
Speaker 3: great ones do, and it appears that Trevor has done
Speaker 3: some of those things. Okay. But here comes the challenge.
Speaker 3: And when you're a young player, it's hard to be
Speaker 3: a leader because number one, you got to have performance, okay,
Speaker 3: and number two, you got to have respect you have performance.
Speaker 3: And so Trevor is still in the infancy stages of
Speaker 3: being a leader. But that's got to grow, and it
Speaker 3: will grow, and it's starting to grow. You can see
Speaker 3: that he's more vocal. But there's also got to be
Speaker 3: some leadership from elsewhere, okay, and he needs help okay.
Speaker 3: And I'm not talking coaching wise, because the greatest leadership
Speaker 3: comes from within, okay, because if we're all teammates, okay,
Speaker 3: and Kyle, you look at me and say, why aren't
Speaker 3: you doing this? And we need I need you to
Speaker 3: do X. Okay. I hear that a lot better than
Speaker 3: I do. From a coach. Sure, Okay, So the greatest
Speaker 3: leadership is always from within, and I see that with Trevor,
Speaker 3: and I think that's part of what's missing a little
Speaker 3: bit not having Cam Robinson. Cam, even though look, he's
Speaker 3: not a top ten tackle in the league.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's a top performer, but he's a leader.
Speaker 3: You know, And I think that also not having some
Speaker 3: of that hurts a little bit. But I think Trevor's
Speaker 3: going to be fine, and he's still young and we're
Speaker 3: still in the infancy stages of his all right.
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Speaker 10: By hanging on too much of last year like that's over,
Speaker 10: it's a long football season. We have a lot of
Speaker 10: work to do, that's all we know. Right now, we're
Speaker 10: gonna we're gonna put our head down.
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Speaker 2: we're headed to London, but two of the big names.
Speaker 2: There's some people working through some stuff, but the two
Speaker 2: names I'm looking at here are gonna be Zajoe who's
Speaker 2: did not play last week because of his knee injury,
Speaker 2: and then Devin Lloyd, who hurt his thumb or his
Speaker 2: hand during the game against the Texans. He missed a
Speaker 2: good chunk of that game. We saw a lot of
Speaker 2: Chad Muma. He'll probably be a game time decision by
Speaker 2: the time we get to Sunday, because they don't know
Speaker 2: exactly where that's at yet. And Zay as well. Is Ay's,
Speaker 2: you know, at some point probably going to play in London,
Speaker 2: but we don't know if that will be against the Falcon.
Speaker 9: I don't know that it's very likely this week. Just
Speaker 9: the sense I'm getting talking to people, but more likely
Speaker 9: to be he'd be ready to go for Buffalo.
Speaker 2: How much did they miss him on offense when he
Speaker 2: wasn't in there?
Speaker 5: That's a great question.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know everything was going wrong, so I
Speaker 2: don't know if he was going to save the day,
Speaker 2: but he don't have to imagine.
Speaker 9: That guy at the sticks that makes that clutch catch
Speaker 9: that gets things started.
Speaker 5: I think they miss him.
Speaker 9: And in fact, let me throw this theory at you,
Speaker 9: I think Calvin Ridley might be the problem right now.
Speaker 9: I think that last year, and I know it was
Speaker 9: last year, but you had that rhythm with Kirk Ingram
Speaker 9: and Jones and it was working, and it seems to
Speaker 9: me like they are forcing it to Calvin, and maybe
Speaker 9: they would do better to include Calvin in the med
Speaker 9: and not make it Calvin's offense.
Speaker 3: I think there's something to be said for that get
Speaker 3: back to what worked. But I will say this too,
Speaker 3: that when you have what you believe as a great player,
Speaker 3: you need to feed a great player. And sometimes you're
Speaker 3: going to be a little bit more willing to do that, okay,
Speaker 3: because you know he's special.
Speaker 9: But if you're trying to get back to some efficiency,
Speaker 9: right I mean the third down numbers are abysmal.
Speaker 3: Yes, if you're.
Speaker 9: Trying to just at one point, I look down and
Speaker 9: they were seven of twenty nine for the season in
Speaker 9: the third quarter of this game and I went seven
Speaker 9: for twenty nine. Holy hell. That explains a lot. And
Speaker 9: if you just want to get back to an efficiency
Speaker 9: where you stay on the field, you know what, if
Speaker 9: you're just you go back to what really worked well
Speaker 9: and then oh they're paying attention to this over the
Speaker 9: top to Calvin, I'm over simplifying.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to go back to the Day's Jones
Speaker 3: thing here just for a minute. Because when you look
Speaker 3: at that wide receiver room and we always say this
Speaker 3: is a talented group, the.
Speaker 5: Leader is a totally right, totally.
Speaker 3: Who's the best, best double move wide receiver they have? Okay,
Speaker 3: so do you need them?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean, look, look you want like well, I was
Speaker 3: just saying, you know you want leaders, right, I mean
Speaker 3: there's a leader that you didn't have, you know, for
Speaker 3: this past game on the field, so you want to
Speaker 3: have him back. Now what it looks like when he
Speaker 3: comes back, or what it looks like this week? Okay,
Speaker 3: with Calvin Ridley, there's got to be a comfort level
Speaker 3: with the quarterback. And when I say that, there's got
Speaker 3: to be a comfort level that he feels confident and
Speaker 3: that he's going to make the right decisions and make
Speaker 3: him quick. And it doesn't necessarily have to be forcing
Speaker 3: it to one particular individual, right it can be feeding
Speaker 3: the ball around. But then in certain situations, in certain situations,
Speaker 3: calculated risk wise, you're going to force it to a
Speaker 3: guy because you believe in them. But right now, I think,
Speaker 3: if I'm Trevor, I'm just thinking out loud here, if
Speaker 3: I'm Trevor, do I trust Calvin Ridley yet to where
Speaker 3: I'm going to force the ball?
Speaker 2: Sure seems like he does.
Speaker 3: I mean he has, but are you going to trust
Speaker 3: him this week?
Speaker 2: I don't know. At certain point doesn't wear out because
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to take a while for
Speaker 2: them to get on the same page, because I didn't
Speaker 2: believe that Trevor was going to trust him rut of
Speaker 2: the gate. But from what I've seen, he goes to
Speaker 2: him in double coverage whenever he's you know, and obviously
Speaker 2: we've seen Calvin do crazy things. He's seen the same thing,
Speaker 2: but he seems to be going to him more than
Speaker 2: he's going to, you know, maybe his safety blanket.
Speaker 5: That's why, Yeah, that's why I asked the question.
Speaker 9: I just you know, last year, it didn't matter, was
Speaker 9: it Ingram, was it Zay, was it Kirk. He seemed
Speaker 9: comfortable throwing to all of them. And this year he
Speaker 9: just my perspective, he just doesn't seem as comfortable as
Speaker 9: he was. I'd like to see them lean back in
Speaker 9: the direction of Kirk, Zay when he's there and Ingram,
Speaker 9: and then take your shot to Calvin until he's.
Speaker 3: Comfortable with I think there's something to be said for that.
Speaker 3: But but if I'm Trevor again, I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 3: If I'm Trevor, I lost a little confidence in Calvin Ary. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the ball was I'm not necessarily going to be willing
Speaker 3: to force a ball right as I was before.
Speaker 2: And I don't think before he had lost confidence in
Speaker 2: any of the other guys. I think it was just
Speaker 2: like Calvin was the shiny new toy, and I think
Speaker 2: that's kind of why he was going there. But I
Speaker 2: think you might be right. I think they might shift away,
Speaker 2: and for what it's worth, I don't want to speak
Speaker 2: for Calvin, but he seems to me a little bit
Speaker 2: to be you know, when he's hot, he's hot, and
Speaker 2: right now he's not. So let's wait until he gets
Speaker 2: himself back into this and then start feeding.
Speaker 3: He earns his way back a little. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: two guys that if I'm Trevor right now, I'm a
Speaker 3: little hesitant to throw the ball to maybe three.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Calvin, Yeah, probably gonna not be as excited to throw
Speaker 3: the ball his way. Tang Bigsby.
Speaker 5: Oh, I wouldn't throw to him again.
Speaker 3: Okay, he bounced off his hands.
Speaker 2: He's not for throwing. Hey, just send him down the middle.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And Jamal, Yeah, Jamal. A'm not gonna throw to Jamal.
Speaker 3: He's fumbled a couple of times.
Speaker 9: Three fumbles in his last four games, which, again I
Speaker 9: point and go, that just doesn't seem like, you know,
Speaker 9: he was making plays last year.
Speaker 5: That's part of the whole off.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: I can't put my finger on him. What is that?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 9: But I look at at Trevor right now and think,
Speaker 9: not Trevor. I look at Calvin right now and I
Speaker 9: think maybe he's a little over anxious. He talked about
Speaker 9: wanting his name back, so he has something to prove.
Speaker 9: He's on a one year deal essentially, and he wants
Speaker 9: to get paid like receivers get paid. I wonder if
Speaker 9: there's a little anxiety there, like I have got to
Speaker 9: be the star right now, and maybe they don't need
Speaker 9: to just calm him down a little bit. You know,
Speaker 9: we all know some people in Atlanta who cover the Falcons,
Speaker 9: and they said he tends to get that way, he
Speaker 9: tends to get anxious, and they might need to just
Speaker 9: calm him down again. I mean, I'm not talking about
Speaker 9: third down percentage of talking about someone's feelings. It's hard
Speaker 9: to say that unless he sits here and says, yeah,
Speaker 9: I'm anxious about it.
Speaker 5: But you get what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, right not, I totally get it.
Speaker 2: He's been through a lot. It's completely understandable.
Speaker 5: And he said totally.
Speaker 2: He's in a new setting as well. We were just expecting, oh,
Speaker 2: he'll just be this all star right out of the gate.
Speaker 5: Do you know where he got me?
Speaker 9: In our first preseason television production meeting before the Dallas game,
Speaker 9: he was the first one in and I'm sitting there
Speaker 9: with Bucky and he looks at me, he goes, you know,
Speaker 9: how good I am don't you, And I said, well,
Speaker 9: I think he goes, oh no, no, no, I'm really good,
Speaker 9: and I went, I like this guy, right, I want
Speaker 9: to see that Calvin right clearly at this moment he
Speaker 9: isn't feeling that. Hopefully he does at some point in
Speaker 9: near future, because then I think you have that explosive
Speaker 9: combination that we all.
Speaker 5: Always looks to see this year.
Speaker 2: All right, Brian, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's it for today. Jeff Logovan Conati Stephens here. When
Speaker 2: we return the Jaguars Network coverage of the Doug Peterson
Speaker 2: Show coming up, We're going to talk to Doug before
Speaker 2: we jet off to London. Thank you for listening in
Speaker 2: its Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 12: Schaffrick conformer Jaguar Jeff Logoman discuss the latest Jaguars news
Speaker 12: with the head coach. That Doug Peterson Show starts right now.
Speaker 2: Welcome into the Doug Peterson Show. I'm kind of Honnie
Speaker 2: Steven's filling in for J. P. Shaddrick who abandoned us
Speaker 2: for London early. Jeff Logoman still here and Doug Peterson.
Speaker 2: Of course, good to see you, coach.
Speaker 6: Good to see you guys.
Speaker 5: Thank you, coach.
Speaker 2: Are you a last second packer like me or did
Speaker 2: you already have stuff ready to go earlier this week?
Speaker 2: Because we've been talking about this, there's two strategies, and
Speaker 2: I am the last second person.
Speaker 7: I'm last second. I'm last second. I spent about an
Speaker 7: hour and a half last night late putting my stuff
Speaker 7: in the back, you know, because for us it's different
Speaker 7: because I get to just kind.
Speaker 2: Of where true.
Speaker 7: Yeah, really, it's hard for me to pack on this trip,
Speaker 7: you know, because I don't know what I really need.
Speaker 6: But that was really easy. It was last minute.
Speaker 2: Coach, You're going for two games this year, which is
Speaker 2: a little bit different. I know they have all the
Speaker 2: operations set for that, but what's the mental kind of
Speaker 2: that goes into that, and is it kind of like
Speaker 2: joint practices? How do you look at it?
Speaker 7: Well, for us, you know, with the Jaguar organizations, we've
Speaker 7: done this for many years now, and obviously I've been
Speaker 7: over there about three times and you know last year
Speaker 7: we were there and we do I tell you what,
Speaker 7: We've got a great team of people behind the scenes
Speaker 7: that really put this trip on and really make it
Speaker 7: easy for us as a football team to get over there,
Speaker 7: you know, and we have to treat it just like
Speaker 7: we're here in Jacksonville, you know, on a daily basis.
Speaker 7: You know, this first game, we get the bulk of
Speaker 7: our work done, you know, Wednesday, Thursday before we get
Speaker 7: on the plane, and then we got one day over
Speaker 7: there Friday and you know, a little review, we play Sunday,
Speaker 7: and then the following week.
Speaker 6: We just keep it as normal as possible. You know.
Speaker 7: I do want the guys to kind of enjoy, you know,
Speaker 7: their time in London since we're going to be there
Speaker 7: for about ten days and and get some time to relax.
Speaker 7: We'll have a day off, you know, after the game,
Speaker 7: but after that it's it's back to work and coaches
Speaker 7: will be game planning and and try to keep it
Speaker 7: as normal as I can as if we were here
Speaker 7: in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: Now. You guys have a great setup over there. And
Speaker 3: the challenge of this is that the second game, because
Speaker 3: you're going to be moving from one location to another.
Speaker 3: Was talking to George down the equipment room and and
Speaker 3: they're shipping containers out over there because you're at a
Speaker 3: different location and uh and then there was also a
Speaker 3: shipment that was airshipped over there this week. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's amazing the logistics that go into this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just to get you know, an NFL football team
Speaker 7: over there, and for all the teams that go over,
Speaker 7: you know, I think about Atlanta having to go over
Speaker 7: and then of course.
Speaker 6: Buffalo the next week.
Speaker 7: And of course for us, yeah, we we we you know,
Speaker 7: spend a lot of time ahead of time preparing for
Speaker 7: this and shipping a lot of equipment and gear and
Speaker 7: things like that over there.
Speaker 6: And you know, and and and like I said, it's
Speaker 6: it makes it easy on us.
Speaker 7: We just we just kind of show up and and
Speaker 7: sort of plug and play, as they say, and and
Speaker 7: you know it it it it makes it nice, It
Speaker 7: makes it easy.
Speaker 6: It makes it simple.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, our main main goal and
Speaker 7: focus is to play, you know, to play a football game.
Speaker 3: Well, and a big football game coming up against an
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons team that did pretty well the first two weeks.
Speaker 3: Struggle a little bit offensively against the Detroit lines, but
Speaker 3: that's a good football team that offensively they got a
Speaker 3: really good running back and a really good rushing attack.
Speaker 7: They really do and they're you know, and that's kind
Speaker 7: of how they are built and how they how they
Speaker 7: operate writers.
Speaker 6: Through the run game, and.
Speaker 7: You know, they got an excellent tight end who can
Speaker 7: beat you, a very athletic guy. And you know, you
Speaker 7: look at the defensive side of the ball too. This
Speaker 7: is a physical kind of an athletic group. They're they're
Speaker 7: an older, veteran group. At the same time, they want
Speaker 7: to anyway on film, it looks like they want to
Speaker 7: impose their will and their physicality, you know, especially with
Speaker 7: the offensive line. So you know, we have to be
Speaker 7: in the right frame of mind. We've talked all week
Speaker 7: about being a physical game. Defensively, stopping the run and
Speaker 7: controlling that because they are controlling the ball for almost
Speaker 7: thirty minutes you know, average time of possession, so you know,
Speaker 7: and then offensively, we've got to make sure that when
Speaker 7: we do have the ball that we're doing the most
Speaker 7: of it. We can't turn it over. We have to
Speaker 7: score you know, touchdowns, field goals, things of that nature,
Speaker 7: and play for sixty men.
Speaker 2: Doug mixed results against rookie quarterbacks so far this year.
Speaker 2: Obviously Anthony Richardson and then c J. Stroud. I know,
Speaker 2: Desmond Rider played some last year, but this is kind
Speaker 2: of his first full season going what have you seen
Speaker 2: from him on tape and what do you expect to
Speaker 2: see from him on Sunday.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's it's interesting how many young quarterbacks
Speaker 7: were facing here early in the season. And uh, you know,
Speaker 7: one of the things that with with Atlanta and with
Speaker 7: Desmond Ritter, they're there with all these young quarterbacks. They
Speaker 7: do a great job as a staff to kind of
Speaker 7: protect these guys. They're not putting them out there and
Speaker 7: really exposing them to too much and and really just
Speaker 7: using their strengths right and and letting the run game
Speaker 7: really handle a lot of things for these guys. And
Speaker 7: then the passing game is is a lot of play action,
Speaker 7: a little movement, you know, high percentage type completions where
Speaker 7: the ball's coming out of their hands and are not
Speaker 7: having to process a lot of information.
Speaker 6: And and he's been doing a good job with that.
Speaker 7: And you know, you try to get these guys into
Speaker 7: the into the third down world where where you can
Speaker 7: create some exotic fronts, you can you can do some overloads,
Speaker 7: you can pressure and try to disguise some coverages and
Speaker 7: try to you know, affect their eyes just a little bit.
Speaker 7: Young quarterbacks tend to you know, rush things or get
Speaker 7: through their progressions too fast and the ball comes out.
Speaker 6: But you know, I thought c J.
Speaker 7: Stroud last last week did a nice job of that.
Speaker 7: He handled that extremely well. But again, coaches put him
Speaker 7: in a position to be successful, and that's what you
Speaker 7: expect this week as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, watching him his film looks like he holds the
Speaker 3: ball at times, and so started going back. I did
Speaker 3: looked at some of his statistics from college at Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: It's amazing. The guy ran the ball over five hundred
Speaker 3: times at Cincinnati. I mean, so this is a guy
Speaker 3: that's capable of running.
Speaker 7: He is very capable of running, and that's something that
Speaker 7: we have to, you know, pay attention to. You know,
Speaker 7: it's the one one position on the field defensively that
Speaker 7: sometimes you don't account for as a runners, the quarterback,
Speaker 7: and so we got to make sure that we do
Speaker 7: a good job there. And of course, as you mentioned,
Speaker 7: they got a couple of running backs that are the
Speaker 7: NB John Robinson. I think it's going to be an
Speaker 7: excellent running back in this league for a long time.
Speaker 7: And he's very talented. He got some speed the physicality,
Speaker 7: so you know, it's it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 7: full team effort, you know, come Sunday.
Speaker 2: On the defensive side of the ball, Atlanta spent some
Speaker 2: money in the off season. They I think I have
Speaker 2: seven new starters on defense something like that this year.
Speaker 2: Familiar phrase to Jaguars fans. Kalais Campbell, a bunch of
Speaker 2: other names there. What do you look at defensively? They're
Speaker 2: doing better than projected from what we've seen so far.
Speaker 7: You know, ran Nielson came over from New Orleans, their decordinator,
Speaker 7: and he brought a little bit of that you know,
Speaker 7: Dennis Allen style of defense over there. And and and
Speaker 7: you're seeing that with you know, with Atlanta, this is
Speaker 7: a physical group. You know, Grady Jarrett's one of the
Speaker 7: more quick twitch as a nose tackle interior d Lineman,
Speaker 7: quick twitch, fast, a great leader, get off the ball
Speaker 7: type guy. You know, Bud Dupree and Kalais on the outside.
Speaker 7: These two guys are just a lot of experience right there.
Speaker 7: And they you know, Bud can still move and we
Speaker 7: we know him from playing in Tennessee. And you know
Speaker 7: Kalais Is Kalais.
Speaker 6: He's he's a team leader. He's got some energy, you
Speaker 6: see it, you know.
Speaker 7: And then on the back end they went out and
Speaker 7: Bates is back there in a safety position, and and you.
Speaker 6: Know, Arrell's a corner.
Speaker 7: He's is a guy that you know has been there,
Speaker 7: and he's you know, a kind of a veteran, young
Speaker 7: veteran guy that really has done some nice things.
Speaker 6: And and this this group.
Speaker 7: One of the things you see on film too, is
Speaker 7: they're a game plan team that is going to scheme
Speaker 7: you differently than.
Speaker 6: They played the week before.
Speaker 7: Right, So what we saw against Green Bay or Carolina
Speaker 7: or even Detroit might even be a little bit.
Speaker 6: Different against us.
Speaker 7: It's just just the way he you know, he handles
Speaker 7: his his game plan. So you know, we look at everything.
Speaker 7: We go back and even watch some New Orleans tape,
Speaker 7: you know, when he was there, and and really get
Speaker 7: a feel for for how he's going to try to
Speaker 7: defend us.
Speaker 3: How important is it for you guys on offense to
Speaker 3: have some positive things happen early in that ball game,
Speaker 3: to snowball in the positive direction.
Speaker 6: It's a must.
Speaker 7: I mean, you go back to last week, we dropped
Speaker 7: the touchdown pass, you know early on the on the
Speaker 7: opening drive. Then of course we you know, I miss
Speaker 7: the field goal, so we gave up points right there,
Speaker 7: right away. And those things are those are game changers.
Speaker 7: When you go down the field and score on that
Speaker 7: opening possession, it changes, It changes your attitude on the sideline,
Speaker 7: your demeanor. Defense goes out, and of course defense has
Speaker 7: been going out and getting off the field extremely early.
Speaker 7: But what happened last week is it compounded. Right, we
Speaker 7: missed a touchdown, missed the field goal, they go down
Speaker 7: and score, miscommunication in the back end. Those are the
Speaker 7: things that you know, we can't we can't let happen.
Speaker 7: Those are the mistakes and the mental areas that we're
Speaker 7: trying to clean up right now. And you know, for us,
Speaker 7: it's a matter of offensively, we got to take care of
Speaker 7: the football. You know, again, we know that Atlanta is
Speaker 7: a ball controlled, possession type team, and every time we
Speaker 7: get the ball offensively, again, we got to make sure
Speaker 7: that that we're scoring and doing the things that we
Speaker 7: need to do.
Speaker 6: We got to take care of the football.
Speaker 7: Can't turn it over, and you know, that's kind of
Speaker 7: been our achilles heel, you know, the last two weeks.
Speaker 7: And so those are things that we're working on fixing
Speaker 7: and you know, you know, see you know Sunday exactly
Speaker 7: exactly how that that.
Speaker 2: Plays out, Doug, You've coached for a long time. I
Speaker 2: know after the game last week there was you know,
Speaker 2: just a lot of question marks because the team kind
Speaker 2: of beating themselves. Does that make it harder to coach
Speaker 2: them when you know they're good and they're just making
Speaker 2: silly mistakes? Or is it more difficult because you know
Speaker 2: what they're capable of.
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's a little of both. And you know,
Speaker 6: I was, I was very.
Speaker 7: I was really disappointed last last week after that game,
Speaker 7: probably probably the most disappointed I've been as a head coach,
Speaker 7: you know, with a football team, because it was all
Speaker 7: three phases. It wasn't just the defense or the offense,
Speaker 7: or it was all three phases. We had a hand
Speaker 7: in that loss last week. And you know, of course,
Speaker 7: as a head coach, you look at a lot of
Speaker 7: different things, right, and you try to put a finger
Speaker 7: on it. But at the same time you got to
Speaker 7: realize too, you know, the sun comes up on Monday,
Speaker 7: and it's not as bad as you think. We're We're
Speaker 7: really close in a lot of areas. We're making a
Speaker 7: lot of silly mistakes, and some of it is obviously
Speaker 7: very fixable and correctable, and and and it's really keep
Speaker 7: I keep harping.
Speaker 6: With the guys.
Speaker 7: It's always going to be about us and what we
Speaker 7: do in our preparation and the things that we put
Speaker 7: into the week and you know, work to win our
Speaker 7: mantra is our process. It's our process, you know, from
Speaker 7: from Monday through Saturday, right up until game time on Sunday.
Speaker 6: So you know, we just got to get back to that,
Speaker 6: get get focused in on that.
Speaker 7: I think this was an eye opener for our football
Speaker 7: team for a lot of players obviously, and look for
Speaker 7: a better, better performance this.
Speaker 2: Weekend, hopefully a point to move forward from Doug. Thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us. We'll see you in London. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back with Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.
Speaker 12: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I think you stay through to the division, understand that
Speaker 11: the vision will take care of all the work. When
Speaker 11: you understand where you're going, you know what roles won't
Speaker 11: take you there. So I think for us it's just
Speaker 11: about you know, keeping the vision in mind and not
Speaker 11: letting you know, a loss here, laws there, take leave
Speaker 11: off track, stay disciplined, and you know it's it's a
Speaker 11: simple game. You know when you do things right. You know,
Speaker 11: you overcomplicate things when you, you know, put yourself in
Speaker 11: positions that you don't practice, things that we don't coach
Speaker 11: and then don't communicate. It makes things like yesterday happened.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Doug Peterson Show, presented by Fresh
Speaker 2: from Florida from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric
Speaker 2: Center KA. Nannie Stevens in for j P. Shadrick. Jeff
Speaker 2: just got to talk to Doug and now we're heading
Speaker 2: to London later on tonight. Did you pack everything already?
Speaker 9: You're late?
Speaker 2: Are you a late packer or do you try to
Speaker 2: pre pack?
Speaker 3: Well, I know we had to prepack, you know, so unfortunately,
Speaker 3: but I'm not a prepacker for them.
Speaker 2: You were Wednesday night like getting everything.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, it's gotta be double checking bags tomorrow.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna pack my bags tonight. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not one of those guys like my wife. Oh,
Speaker 3: she'll pack days in advance.
Speaker 2: She's good at that. I'm so bad.
Speaker 3: I can't do that.
Speaker 2: I gotta do laundry, and then I'm like throwing everything
Speaker 2: in last second. I'm stressed, and then I tried to
Speaker 2: this time leave a little bit of space because I
Speaker 2: know I'm going to buy stuff, probably because we're for
Speaker 2: like ten days now.
Speaker 3: Well, and what's very different is in the past it's
Speaker 3: been I think the longest time we were there. One
Speaker 3: year we flew right to London right after a game
Speaker 3: on Sunday that was home. And then one year we
Speaker 3: did it right after a game in Cincinnati. And so
Speaker 3: the longest time we've spent over there has been basically
Speaker 3: a week, and now you're talking about two games ten days.
Speaker 3: So a little different for this football team, different for us,
Speaker 3: for staff, et cetera, just because you're packing for a
Speaker 3: little longer and hopefully there are some facilities where we
Speaker 3: can wash clothes. But for the players, they're wearing football
Speaker 3: stuff for the most fine, and they've got a great setup.
Speaker 3: I will say that of all the years that the
Speaker 3: Jaguars have been going over since I think twenty thirteen,
Speaker 3: maybe the first year it was or whatever it was,
Speaker 3: they haven't figured out. Homs and his staff do an
Speaker 3: amazing job and the facility that they have typically stayed
Speaker 3: at for the last number of years is called the Grove.
Speaker 3: It's awesome setup. The players literally have great hotel. It's
Speaker 3: got grounds where the football field is at. They've got
Speaker 3: a workout room, weight room under a tent, and they
Speaker 3: can walk out of the hotel literally right to the
Speaker 3: practice field and then the food hall and everything is
Speaker 3: right there. It's a perfect setup. But this year it's
Speaker 3: a little different. So you have that set up for
Speaker 3: the first week and it's your home game against the
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons, but then after that you go somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's because the home team gets to
Speaker 2: pick where they go, right And yeah, I think the
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills wanted the good setup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know exactly why, but it's that it's
Speaker 3: a little bit different. And then also two games back
Speaker 3: to back will be a little bit different from from
Speaker 3: the player's standpoint, But the organization does it first class.
Speaker 3: You know, the players have every kind of amenity that
Speaker 3: they need, so it's not like they're going over there
Speaker 3: in the rough and they're without all the great things
Speaker 3: that they have here. Obviously, they don't have the Miller Electric.
Speaker 2: Center, true, not that.
Speaker 3: No, not to that level, but it's good. Nonetheless, have you.
Speaker 2: Ever traveled like, I don't know if you're playing days, like,
Speaker 2: you know, some teams will go to California and they'll
Speaker 2: stay out there for if they have back to back
Speaker 2: games or the West Coast anything like, did you ever
Speaker 2: do anything like that for your career? Because I'm curious
Speaker 2: trying to stay there for as long as we're going
Speaker 2: to be there for these two games and then come
Speaker 2: back what that might be like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the coming back part is it could be.
Speaker 2: Tough because you'll be acclimated to you know, the five
Speaker 2: hour time difference.
Speaker 3: For me, it's it's always I've always had an easier
Speaker 3: time going west than going east. Okay, okay, because when
Speaker 3: you go west, you just stay up a little bit
Speaker 3: later and then you go to bed and or you
Speaker 3: can even go to bed a little bit earlier and
Speaker 3: you get a little extra sleep. When you go east,
Speaker 3: you get all discomputed. It's messed up, yeah, because you're
Speaker 3: going back and it's tomorrow. Well wait a minute, it's
Speaker 3: not tomorrow. It's still tonight, but it's tomorrow. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: so it's a little bit different from that aspect of it,
Speaker 3: but never as a player, never really had to go
Speaker 3: to California and stay there for a long period of time.
Speaker 3: But have gone out to the West Coast many times early,
Speaker 3: you know, on a Thursday or even on a Friday,
Speaker 3: with the opportunity to acclimate to a West Coast time.
Speaker 3: And I hated that. I never liked going out early.
Speaker 3: I'd rather just fly into a game. But London is
Speaker 3: very different. But it's what's incredible is that over the
Speaker 3: years they've done sleep studies. They have it down to
Speaker 3: a science. When I say they have it down to
Speaker 3: a science, they have it down to science from a
Speaker 3: logistical standpoint, getting everything over there that they need to
Speaker 3: but then also from a performance football player standpoint. They've
Speaker 3: done sleep studies, They've done diet studies. What's the best
Speaker 3: way to have your What do you do on the plane?
Speaker 3: Do you try to sleep the whole way? Do you
Speaker 3: take a sleeping pill, do you hydrate? Do you eat?
Speaker 3: You know when you get there? You know when you
Speaker 3: get there. Okay, what's the best thing to do? And
Speaker 3: now they got it where they fly through the night Thursday,
Speaker 3: get as much sleep as you can and you get there,
Speaker 3: go right to the practice. Field and then let the
Speaker 3: players get a nap if they need to on Friday afternoon,
Speaker 3: and then let them have a little bit of free
Speaker 3: time on Friday night, and then you know, Saturday, you
Speaker 3: get back to work.
Speaker 2: Do you alter it when you come back a little bit?
Speaker 2: What have they done in the past? Is Monday maybe
Speaker 2: a day off because we fly back right after the
Speaker 2: game the second game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you get back late Sunday night.
Speaker 2: Yep, and then kind of give that a day off
Speaker 2: instead of what you normally do on Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think again, it's easier going west, so it's
Speaker 3: easier coming back. But at the same token, you still
Speaker 3: have to be able to recoup because you're talking about
Speaker 3: spending what is it seven eight hours in the air
Speaker 3: on an airplane. It's never easy traveling whether you go
Speaker 3: east or west. I'd rather go, like I said, west.
Speaker 3: But when you have so much new, okay new traveling
Speaker 3: to London, having a game, changing hotels, another game which
Speaker 3: has never been done before, and then traveling back in
Speaker 3: and getting right back into game mode again, and then
Speaker 3: a short week after that first game back, it's different.
Speaker 3: It's different. It'll be a challenge, and that's why you
Speaker 3: want to make sure that you try to get back
Speaker 3: to performing well this first week against the Falcons, because
Speaker 3: if you don't play well this week, there's other challenges
Speaker 3: that are associated with the next week and then the
Speaker 3: week after that.
Speaker 2: There are other hurdles. But as we said, they've got
Speaker 2: it down pretty good, and it's gonna be ten games
Speaker 2: now that they've played in London, so that'll be pretty
Speaker 2: impressive and we'll have two in a row this year.
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Speaker 2: we're gonna preview this week's matchup against Atlanta right here
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Speaker 13: So Jacksman, like like you just brought it up, they're
Speaker 13: a team that's gonna come in this game desperate because
Speaker 13: they got a really good coaching staff and they got
Speaker 13: a good team, a talented player team. That's right, They've
Speaker 13: invested in essentially, you know, four pass catchers in the quarterback.
Speaker 13: They took number one and a good player and they
Speaker 13: played well at in the last season, and we got
Speaker 13: gotta play real well.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Doug Peterson Show, presented by fresh
Speaker 2: from Florida Kindannie Stevens here with Jeff Logman. That was
Speaker 2: Art Smith, Falcons head coach. They're in a tough spot too.
Speaker 2: They just had a tough loss to the to the
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions and or both of these teams are going
Speaker 2: to be kind of desperate going into this needing this
Speaker 2: win and never good win. Both teams are desperate because
Speaker 2: you don't know what's gonna happen. But hopefully the Jaguars
Speaker 2: are the good kind of desperate where they get back
Speaker 2: on track and don't just try to play crazy.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be a challenging game. And Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 3: came out and nobody gave them any respect, and then
Speaker 3: they opened the season up with two wins too and oho.
Speaker 3: And what's scary about the Atlanta Falcons is that they've
Speaker 3: got some serious skill position players and a really good
Speaker 3: offensive line that will challenge the Jaguars defensively. The one
Speaker 3: position that's a little bit unsettled which most people are like,
Speaker 3: that's a big question mark. Is Desmond Ritter the quarterback,
Speaker 3: but there's no doubting Bijon Robinson the running back from Texas,
Speaker 3: who they drafted very high. They've got arguably the most
Speaker 3: talented tight end. Kyle Pitts is a freak freak, an
Speaker 3: absolute freak of a tight end. Drake London excellent player
Speaker 3: offensive line, two really good tackles, both of them veteran guys.
Speaker 3: They've got a highly rated center, arguably one of the
Speaker 3: best guards in football in Chris Littram, Noah's uncle. Very well.
Speaker 3: But this is a challenge this week, and the Jaguars
Speaker 3: Allen will be challenged as well because the Falcons aren't
Speaker 3: giving up a lot of points.
Speaker 2: They are not, and we're trying to get our offense
Speaker 2: back on track, so that could be troublesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I mean from a challenging standpoint.
Speaker 3: The Falcons have spent a bunch of money in free
Speaker 3: agency on the defensive side of the ball, and they
Speaker 3: got new faces across the board. Kalais Campbell our friendly face, yeah,
Speaker 3: which I love. Kalayis he and I think they try
Speaker 3: to get him here again in the off season. I
Speaker 3: know he visited yep and some other guys. Jeff o'cuda,
Speaker 3: who is a high first round pick for the Detroit
Speaker 3: Lions cornerback. They signed Jesse Bates the third, who is
Speaker 3: a safety from the Cincinnati Bengals who's a very good player.
Speaker 3: Grady Jarrett's been there forever defensive tackle. He's still really good.
Speaker 3: Bud Dupree, who used to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 3: most recently with the Tennessee Titans, is there. So they've
Speaker 3: got some good players on defense. And Terrell the corner
Speaker 3: from Clemson. And by the way, there may be more
Speaker 3: players from Clemson in this game than any other game.
Speaker 2: They're going to be well represented abround at.
Speaker 3: Clemson guys in this game, man Dabo would would like
Speaker 3: the tennis game.
Speaker 2: I'm sure if you have some time. You mentioned the defense.
Speaker 2: I think I looked and there was maybe at least
Speaker 2: seven different starters they have on defense this year compared
Speaker 2: to last year. And that's a different philosophy than the
Speaker 2: Jaguars took in terms of standing pat on defense. Pretty
Speaker 2: much the.
Speaker 3: Same it is, but it's similar to the Jaguars approach
Speaker 3: that they took in twenty seventiers and they went in
Speaker 3: free agency or signed a bunch of guys and it
Speaker 3: paid off for the Jaguars, and right now it's paying
Speaker 3: all for the Falcons. I mean, they're top ten points allowed,
Speaker 3: averaging eighteen points a game. They're the number four rated team,
Speaker 3: and against the pass, I'm giving you some numbers here, Okay,
Speaker 3: third down efficiency, they're top ten.
Speaker 2: I think we were doing good score.
Speaker 3: I know you know you think about all these Okay, like, okay,
Speaker 3: you wanted this offense to go ahead and get better.
Speaker 3: These are some things red zone and they're just out
Speaker 3: of the top ten, number eleven. So there's some challenges
Speaker 3: this week with this Atlanta Falcons football team. And Author
Speaker 3: Smith is a really good football coach, one of the
Speaker 3: best offensive mines in football. But I think he's a
Speaker 3: really good head coach. He hasn't had the results yet
Speaker 3: in Atlanta, but he also hasn't had the trigger man yet.
Speaker 3: He's had a lot of quarterback issues, going from Marcus
Speaker 3: Mariota last year, which was I don't want to say
Speaker 3: a train wreck, but it didn't go very well, and
Speaker 3: then Desmond Ritter is, you know, the hopeful one and
Speaker 3: they're building everything around that quarterback position. I think they're
Speaker 3: hopeful that Desmond Ridder is the answer, but I don't
Speaker 3: know if he necessarily. As we'll see, time.
Speaker 2: Will tell the second week in a row where the
Speaker 2: Jaguar's gonna be facing off against a quarterback that's been
Speaker 2: sacked a lot. Desmond Ritter has been sacked a lot.
Speaker 2: Segar Stroud had been sacked a lot until he faced us.
Speaker 2: Is this where we see the pass rush step up? Hopefully?
Speaker 2: Should we? Should I stop calling them out and start
Speaker 2: looking elsewhere before.
Speaker 3: What concerns me is twofold one. The offense of line,
Speaker 3: Matthews at left tackle, Mcgarriot right tackle. Good players, good
Speaker 3: good guard, good center. This is a good offensive line.
Speaker 3: They got good skill positioned players. But the other part
Speaker 3: is is because he's been sacked twelve times, a lot
Speaker 3: of people say, oh, easy target, He's easy to sack.
Speaker 3: Desmond Ridder is a mobile quarterback and if you need
Speaker 3: any evidence of that, look at his college stats. In
Speaker 3: college when he was at Cincinnati, had five hundred over
Speaker 3: five hundred rushes. Five hundred rushes as a quarterback. Okay,
Speaker 3: he doesn't have that many in the pros obviously, because
Speaker 3: he hasn't been playing that much, but he has mobility.
Speaker 3: He's not Anthony Richardson okay, which the Jaguars faced week one, okay,
Speaker 3: And he's not CJ. Strout okay, because Anthony Richardson is
Speaker 3: a mobile quarterback who's not afraid to run, and he's
Speaker 3: big and strong like Cam Newton yep Okay.
Speaker 8: C J.
Speaker 3: Strout is a pocket passer and he'll sit there. Desmond
Speaker 3: Ridder is somewhere in the middle there. So you got
Speaker 3: to make sure that you've got an awareness that he
Speaker 3: can run and that he is willing to run because
Speaker 3: he has a history of running in college and he's
Speaker 3: got a young NFL cris where a lot of people
Speaker 3: are using him. I guarantee you the Jaguars defensive staff
Speaker 3: is part of the preparation this week. Have went back
Speaker 3: and watched his college film just to get get an
Speaker 3: idea of what he does.
Speaker 2: You have to see it firsthand in a couple of days.
Speaker 2: Stay with us here on the Doug Peterson Show on
Speaker 2: the Jaguars Radio Network.
Speaker 12: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
Speaker 13: No even a game like yesterday. And that's the one
Speaker 13: thing too, where like those guys have been in some
Speaker 13: You got some salty bets over there, right, that's what
Speaker 13: you're lying on when you bring book, you know. But
Speaker 13: in Dave David kalaiis Jesse Caden.
Speaker 3: You old analogy that won their first rodeo on the road.
Speaker 3: You know. Sometimes that's that's what the XP station is.
Speaker 2: Welcome back into the Doug Peterson Show, presented by Fresh
Speaker 2: from Florida, Ka Nannie Stevens here with Jeff Loghaman. That
Speaker 2: was Art Smith of the Atlanta Falcons. We talked a
Speaker 2: little bit about this just in the segment before. But
Speaker 2: all those new names on defense, they are salty vets,
Speaker 2: as Art called them. And they had a little bit
Speaker 2: of a tough time with Detroit last week. But before
Speaker 2: that they didn't looking real good. They did, I will say,
Speaker 2: I will say on the road, yeah, and Detroit, as
Speaker 2: we've seen, beat the Chiefs there. They're nothing to be
Speaker 2: messed with either.
Speaker 3: Atlanta's offense just struggled mightily. They ended up having I
Speaker 3: can't remember how many sacks of Ritter I have, six, seven,
Speaker 3: whatever it was, which is why he's now one of
Speaker 3: the most sacked quarterbacks in the league. Yep Aiden Hutchinson
Speaker 3: I think had two. But look, this Falcons defense, as
Speaker 3: author Smith was just talking about, is kind of that's
Speaker 3: going to be the rock for this football team Atlanta,
Speaker 3: and that's why he said they brought in these veteran
Speaker 3: guys to kind of stabilize that side of the ball.
Speaker 3: And Kalais is a guy that definitely is perfect kind
Speaker 3: of example of a guy you want to bring in
Speaker 3: free agency because he's all about team, he's productive, and
Speaker 3: he's going to make sure that he brings everybody along
Speaker 3: with him. Jesse Bates the safety, He's got three interceptions
Speaker 3: already three games, he's got three interceptions. Surprised that Cincinnati
Speaker 3: let him go, but they had to pay Joe Burrow,
Speaker 3: so you.
Speaker 2: Got you gotta find the money somewhere. You gotta go
Speaker 2: in the couch and find the coins.
Speaker 3: So well, the Jaguars offensive line will be challenged.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: Grady Jarrett has been probably one of the better football
Speaker 3: players that nobody ever talks about in the National Football League,
Speaker 3: just because Atlanta hasn't been good and he's been there
Speaker 3: his whole career, but he's a good football player that's
Speaker 3: been active. He's a challenge to block what I'm going
Speaker 3: to be anxious about is and I still want to
Speaker 3: watch more film. Where's bud Dupree at? You know, bud
Speaker 3: Dupree was hurt so much when he was in Tennessee.
Speaker 3: You know, when he was with the Pittsburgh Steelers, he
Speaker 3: was pretty dog gone. Good is he back to form
Speaker 3: at all? And then a couple other guys, one of
Speaker 3: them that Lorenzo Carter has been productive, but then Arnold
Speaker 3: and I haven't learned how to pronounce his name yet. Okay, second,
Speaker 3: your player out of Penn State? He where is number seventeen?
Speaker 3: He bickety bikity. I'm still trying to figure that out.
Speaker 2: They'll give us the pronunciations.
Speaker 3: But they've got some good young players mixed with these
Speaker 3: veteran guys, and it's going to be challenge for the
Speaker 3: Jaguars football team. But you know the great thing about
Speaker 3: playing at Wembley is this has really become a home
Speaker 3: field advantage. When it first started, it was there was
Speaker 3: a million jerseys from all teams and all eras of
Speaker 3: professional football. I mean you saw Zonka jerseys and you know,
Speaker 3: Joe Namath jerseys and like jeez, and you'd see so
Speaker 3: many different teams, they were always reper in it. Well
Speaker 3: over the years, the Jaguars following has increased, and obviously
Speaker 3: the more success that this team has, even the bigger
Speaker 3: that it's going to get. But it really has become
Speaker 3: a home atmosphere now that the team runs the operations
Speaker 3: at Wimbley and it's not a league thing. You know,
Speaker 3: the stadium has a Jaguars feel to it, it has
Speaker 3: a Jaguars fan feel to it, and it's a tremendous atmosphere,
Speaker 3: tremendous atmosphere and I love feeling that atmosphere every year.
Speaker 3: And now Tottenham I've never been to and that's going
Speaker 3: to be totally foreign. Been in a foreign country and
Speaker 3: you're an away game.
Speaker 2: It's going to be different a little bit. But we'll
Speaker 2: be there for the week, so we'll get the land
Speaker 2: of land. This should be okay. And when you have
Speaker 2: that advantage, we go there every year. Right, it's a
Speaker 2: little different for us this year with the two games,
Speaker 2: but Atlanta doesn't do that every year, so that you
Speaker 2: have that little bit of an advantage in that regard.
Speaker 2: And as we mentioned, Desmond Ritter I did want to
Speaker 2: mention we talked about some of the sacks on him.
Speaker 2: Smith went over some of those in availability and he
Speaker 2: said three. So there were seven. He said, three happened
Speaker 2: on play action. One was we held on and that
Speaker 2: was a coverage sack, and then two were quick hitters,
Speaker 2: just bum rushes, and then one was Ridder holding onto
Speaker 2: the ball.
Speaker 3: He said, so, and that's that's typically a trait of
Speaker 3: a young quarterback.
Speaker 2: Sure trying to figure things out.
Speaker 3: And which was shocking about c J. Stroud this past
Speaker 3: week because he didn't hold would you wouldn't have known
Speaker 3: that he was a rookie and Desmond Ridder is not
Speaker 3: a rookie, but he's still a young quarterback, and young
Speaker 3: quarterbacks hold onto the ball because they're still trying to
Speaker 3: go through progressions. You know, when Tom Brady and Peyton
Speaker 3: Manning were going through their progressions in their heyday, they
Speaker 3: were already starting the progression before the play was snapped. Okay,
Speaker 3: they had pre snap reads and tips and they figured
Speaker 3: things out, already knew and so the you know, Tom
Speaker 3: Brady might have been on his fourth read before the
Speaker 3: ball was even snapped because he knew. And it was
Speaker 3: the same thing with Tom Brady. Well, young quarterbacks like
Speaker 3: Trevor and Desmond Riddard even more so because he's not
Speaker 3: as experienced as Trevor. It takes more time, they hold
Speaker 3: the ball a little bit longer and so they're going
Speaker 3: to get sacked more. But again, the concern for me
Speaker 3: with this game is Desmond Ritter does have the ability
Speaker 3: to run and that concerns me. With a Jaguars defensive
Speaker 3: front that has not been consistent at getting pressure on the.
Speaker 2: Quarterback, they have not been consistent. That is definitely an
Speaker 2: area that needs to be worked on, among other things
Speaker 2: this week in Week four, So we're going to take
Speaker 2: a quick break. Coming back, we'll talk a little bit
Speaker 2: more about the Falcons and Jean Robinson, who lit the
Speaker 2: world on fire, cooled off a little bit last week,
Speaker 2: but we'll see what we're going to see from him
Speaker 2: coming up on the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars
Speaker 2: Radio Network.
Speaker 12: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now here.
Speaker 2: On the Doug Peterson Show, Kaid Nannie Stevens with Jeff
Speaker 2: log him in and talking Falcons, because why not get
Speaker 2: a pre things for this weekend. A lot of if
Speaker 2: anyone hadn't followed them too closely, Jon Robinson was a
Speaker 2: high pick this year, and he really has lit the
Speaker 2: world on fire out of Texas. Those first couple of
Speaker 2: games really lit things up against the Packers. Was held
Speaker 2: a little bit and check against the Lions because we
Speaker 2: know that defense. We saw that in training camp and
Speaker 2: the co practices that defense over there is pretty good.
Speaker 2: And what does he bring to the table, because as
Speaker 2: we talk about a young quarterback, it's so helpful to
Speaker 2: have a running back that can open things up for you.
Speaker 3: He's a true bell cow running back. What I mean
Speaker 3: by bell cow for those who don't know that lingo.
Speaker 3: He's a guy you can hand it to him twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five thirty times a game and he can carry
Speaker 3: the load. And he was that at Texas and I
Speaker 3: think he can continue to be that now. The running
Speaker 3: back out of Alabama that ended up getting drafted by
Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions, I liked him a little bit better
Speaker 3: just because he was so dynamic in the passing game.
Speaker 3: But Robinson is a true pounded out running back and
Speaker 3: he's also proven to be a very capable waters. You know,
Speaker 3: he's got thirty nine rushes on the air and he's
Speaker 3: averaging five and a half yards of carrier, which is impressive.
Speaker 3: But he's their leading receiver also, which is one of
Speaker 3: two things.
Speaker 2: Rightly problematic, because well it's one.
Speaker 3: He's good, yes, but it also shows that you've got
Speaker 3: a young quarterback, right okay, and the quarterback is dumping
Speaker 3: it down to the running back because he's not seeing
Speaker 3: the field to be able to deliver it to other players.
Speaker 3: But I love Robinson. He's got speed, he's got strength,
Speaker 3: he's got great vision. And the Jaguars have been pretty
Speaker 3: good against the run so far this year, but this
Speaker 3: will be their biggest challenge in stopping the run for
Speaker 3: two reasons. One the offensive line that Atlanta has, but
Speaker 3: then number two, the commitment that they have to it.
Speaker 3: And then number three, and I wouldn't necessarily rank it
Speaker 3: as three is Robinson the running back because he's really good.
Speaker 2: I was going to say before this game against the Texas,
Speaker 2: I would have said, oh, the run defense is a
Speaker 2: strong suit. They shouldn't have too much of an issue,
Speaker 2: but kind of fell apart on us in every aspect
Speaker 2: in that last game. So this is going to be
Speaker 2: a true tesque because, as you mentioned, he's multifaceted as well,
Speaker 2: and there's not always guys coming out of college that
Speaker 2: are immediately like that. So he is rare in that respect.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, he was. You know, he probably could have
Speaker 3: played in the NFL three years ago, which is wild.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a man. You know. The other thing
Speaker 3: I think about the Atlanta offense is that, you know,
Speaker 3: you've got Drake London who's a tremendous player, and Mac
Speaker 3: Hollins another guy who Hodge is also wide receiver that
Speaker 3: they have. But when you look at a young quarterback,
Speaker 3: and it always kind of remains true, you look at
Speaker 3: who the leading receivers are and typically it's tight ends
Speaker 3: and running backs, and that's exactly what it is with
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons, and they're willing to play that style
Speaker 3: of football because Arthur Smith knows that, look, they need
Speaker 3: to play in the way they're going to play and
Speaker 3: win football is they're going to play good defense, depend
Speaker 3: and lean on those veteran guys that they acquired, and
Speaker 3: then also ball control offense. Don't get sloppy with the ball.
Speaker 3: Desmond Ridder has done a pretty good job at protecting
Speaker 3: a ball. He's only got one in reception, one lost fumble,
Speaker 3: and then be able to run the ball, control the
Speaker 3: tempo of the game, and they were able to do
Speaker 3: that two out of three games. And the Jaguars will
Speaker 3: have their hands full again because that offensive line with
Speaker 3: Atlanta and a good running attack will make it harder
Speaker 3: for them to rush the passer, which has been their
Speaker 3: achilles heels so far.
Speaker 2: These two teams seem to be in similar situations as well.
Speaker 2: Right well. Obviously the Falcons, I'm getting a little bit better.
Speaker 2: They had a hiccup against the Lions, but still trying
Speaker 2: to figure things out. Obviously, Trevor's been in the league
Speaker 2: a little bit longer than Ridder has, but trying to
Speaker 2: get that identity going. A lot of new faces on defense,
Speaker 2: and they're in a division that is you know, last
Speaker 2: year was deplorable and now they're looking pretty good. Other
Speaker 2: than the.
Speaker 3: Panthers, Yeah, I think it's still I'm still going to
Speaker 3: keep it back into last year's category because I think
Speaker 3: they got a They've got a long way to go.
Speaker 13: And the.
Speaker 3: To me, you can evaluate every division by starting with
Speaker 3: one position, and that's the quarterback. And you look at
Speaker 3: all of the quarterbacks that are in that division. You know,
Speaker 3: you got a rookie, you got a journeyman, you got
Speaker 3: an unproven young player. It's just it's not happening in
Speaker 3: that division. And you know, the Jaguars, I think, but
Speaker 3: I still believe that they have their handsful because again,
Speaker 3: Author Smith does such a really good job of running
Speaker 3: this offense the way that's going to give them the
Speaker 3: best chance to win. He's a good football coach, and
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of really good football coaches that
Speaker 3: have never gotten the credit because they've never had the man,
Speaker 3: that quarterback, and Author Smith hasn't even had anything coming
Speaker 3: close to being the man yet. Okay, but he's done
Speaker 3: a good job of making them competitive, and Jerry Foutna,
Speaker 3: their general manager, has done a good job of putting
Speaker 3: some pieces in place. The Atlanta Falcons are a quarterback
Speaker 3: away from being a really good football team right now.
Speaker 3: Their quarterback is not there, you know, and hopefully he
Speaker 3: doesn't get there this week.
Speaker 2: Yes, hopefully not this week. Coming up, we've talked a
Speaker 2: lot about the Falcons. After the break, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about what the Jaguars need to do to turn
Speaker 2: things around. We're here on the Doug Peterson Show on
Speaker 2: the Jaguars Radio Network.
Speaker 12: Welcome back the Doug Peterson Show. Continues right now.
Speaker 2: Back here on The Doug Peterson Show presented by Fresh
Speaker 2: from Florida, we talked a lot about the Falcons with
Speaker 2: the Jaguars have a lot of their own figuring out
Speaker 2: that they need to do. Doug Peterson was saying in
Speaker 2: his availability back on Monday, I think someone asked him
Speaker 2: if this could be a turning point, right because after
Speaker 2: that game he was almost speechless at points trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what went wrong when everything went wrong. And
Speaker 2: last season he kind of pointed to that Detroit game
Speaker 2: that went just about as poorly as could go, and
Speaker 2: they used that a little bit as a turning point,
Speaker 2: you know, and turn their season around, made the playoffs,
Speaker 2: have that crazy comeback, and this will be a marker game.
Speaker 2: I think the Texans game, good or bad.
Speaker 3: Jeff Well, I hope so. I hope it is a
Speaker 3: game that we look at and we look back at
Speaker 3: and say, okay, that that was the game that spurred
Speaker 3: them on to great things. And it's not going to
Speaker 3: be easy because you had multiple aspects of your game
Speaker 3: that were off against the Texans, and you've got to
Speaker 3: you've got to fix some things pretty quick. And that's
Speaker 3: the hard part about the season is that you just
Speaker 3: you don't have a whole lot of time to fix things,
Speaker 3: and you don't have the ability to have lengthy practices
Speaker 3: or padded practices to fix things. You're kind of fixing
Speaker 3: things on the fly. But the great thing is is
Speaker 3: that I believe that you've got a quarterback who is
Speaker 3: exceptional and I think he's going to be able to
Speaker 3: help this football team in a huge fashion. You've got
Speaker 3: an excellent head coach who has been there and done that.
Speaker 3: And I like what they did. And I'm going to
Speaker 3: go back to this again because I mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 3: The Jaguars established their their physical nature a little bit
Speaker 3: against the Texans a bit. And when I say that,
Speaker 3: we can't forget that they did one good thing in
Speaker 3: that game. They ran the ball well with ETN and
Speaker 3: I think that's going to carry them and give them
Speaker 3: something to kind of lean on against this Falcons football team,
Speaker 3: and everything else will come. Evan Ingram's a good football player, okay,
Speaker 3: Christian Kirk is a good football player. Calvin Ridley is
Speaker 3: a good football player. When these guys start making the
Speaker 3: plays that are there, this team is going to be
Speaker 3: really special. It's not there yet, but I believe they
Speaker 3: will be there, and the running game is going to
Speaker 3: be a little bit of a crutch until they can
Speaker 3: get back to that. And I hope that Trevor continues
Speaker 3: to protect the ball fairly well, because that is something
Speaker 3: that if you all of a sudden start turning the
Speaker 3: ball over on top of what you've had, you're going
Speaker 3: to have a really hard time.
Speaker 2: I'll give Trevor credit as well, because he's looked good
Speaker 2: and some of those passes that were not caught are
Speaker 2: beautiful throws. He hasn't been making a lot of dumb mistakes.
Speaker 2: Sometimes he gets a little excited early on overthrows some
Speaker 2: people or an interception here or there. Hasn't been doing that.
Speaker 2: He's been making good decisions things. Other things have been
Speaker 2: going wrong.
Speaker 3: We got to catch the ball. Yeah, we got to
Speaker 3: catch the ball. Okay. And last year the Jaguars had
Speaker 3: the most drop passes in the league, and I made
Speaker 3: a note of this. At the beginning of the season,
Speaker 3: it was twenty five. The year before that they had
Speaker 3: twenty eight. I don't know what the number is now.
Speaker 3: I think it's right around six.
Speaker 2: Are we leading so far?
Speaker 3: Okay? And that's not where you want to be you
Speaker 3: need to kind of move past that category. Okay, in
Speaker 3: this past game, Evan had one and Calvin had two.
Speaker 3: You've got to be better in that category, especially when
Speaker 3: you have a gimmey Okay, when the balls are easier
Speaker 3: and they're right there, and three of those drops in
Speaker 3: this past game were right there and should have been calling.
Speaker 2: All right, one more quick break. We'll be back here
Speaker 2: on The Doug Peterson Show on Jaguarts Radio.
Speaker 12: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
Speaker 7: I just think it comes down to each man. Just
Speaker 7: it's a want to, a will to, you know. You know,
Speaker 7: obviously we can it's a staff. You can create it
Speaker 7: with the games and different things, you know, stunts and stuff.
Speaker 7: But I'll say it's hard when the ball's out of
Speaker 7: the quarterback's hand, you know fast, so you're on your
Speaker 7: second step or maybe your third step making a move
Speaker 7: and the ball's gone.
Speaker 6: It does affect that a little bit. But but we
Speaker 6: can be better.
Speaker 7: Just understanding the uh, the pass rush, the game plan
Speaker 7: you know that.
Speaker 6: Week, and and really use that to our advantage. You know,
Speaker 6: when you can't.
Speaker 2: Back here on the Doug Peterson Show, presented by fresh
Speaker 2: from Florida. That was Doug Peterson talking about the pass
Speaker 2: rush and at a certain point he said, as much,
Speaker 2: you got a man up and make it happen. And
Speaker 2: I know we talked to Jeff a little bit about
Speaker 2: the physicality we saw from the offense finally get the
Speaker 2: running game going. But for lack of a better phrase,
Speaker 2: does the defense just need to be more physical?
Speaker 3: Well, I think they're doing a really good job of
Speaker 3: being physical against the run, and then I think that's
Speaker 3: allowing them the opportunity to rush the passer. And they're
Speaker 3: in lives of the challenge this week because of Robinson,
Speaker 3: who's a good back, and you got a good offensive line.
Speaker 3: I think this is a bigger challenge than the Jaguars
Speaker 3: have faced yet this season because they've given themselves a
Speaker 3: chance to rush the passer by being pretty stout against
Speaker 3: the run. Well, here comes the greatest challenge that stopping
Speaker 3: the run, because this is the best running football team
Speaker 3: that they faced. So can they continue to be able
Speaker 3: to stop the run like they did before? Then once
Speaker 3: they do, can they rush the passer better than they
Speaker 3: have in the past. And I think that this is
Speaker 3: going to be a season long. I don't want to
Speaker 3: say struggle, but it's going to be a season long
Speaker 3: conversation that we may have because the old saying it's
Speaker 3: not about the x's and o's is about the Jimmys
Speaker 3: and the Joe's. When you get Aaron Donald or you
Speaker 3: have one of those TJ. Watts okay or Nick Bosa's okay,
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, your pass rush is pretty good.
Speaker 3: And right now there's not one of those guys on
Speaker 3: this football team on the front four, And so you've
Speaker 3: got to be able to do some things I think
Speaker 3: that are one creative and number two, you just got
Speaker 3: to stay after it. And when I say stay after it,
Speaker 3: you've got to have four guys that are pinning their
Speaker 3: ears back, that are in the best position possible and
Speaker 3: have in order to have a chance. And Josh has
Speaker 3: to get healthy and to be better for this football
Speaker 3: team because right now he's their best pass rusher.
Speaker 2: He certainly has the mentality for it, and we know
Speaker 2: he's had that shoulder injury against the Chiefs and hopefully
Speaker 2: if we can get them back one hundred percent. He's
Speaker 2: in a contract here, so you think you'd see the best.
Speaker 3: He has, well, you can tell that he's he's not
Speaker 3: quite at one hundred percent, okay, and that's not a
Speaker 3: good thing, but it's part of playing in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Nobody's at full strength. Trayvon needs to take a step, Okay,
Speaker 3: Trayvon needs to get on the edges of players and
Speaker 3: become a more of a successful pass rusher. He's trying
Speaker 3: to bully guys. Okay, you can do that in college.
Speaker 3: You can't do that in the National Football League. He's
Speaker 3: got to get on the edges of offensive linemen and
Speaker 3: use that power, because that power becomes even greater when
Speaker 3: there's indecisiveness on the offensive lineman's part when you're on
Speaker 3: their edges.
Speaker 2: All right, Jeff, we're getting on a plane soon. We're
Speaker 2: going to London. Where's your go to spot is tourists?
Speaker 3: I just follow JP because he's big.
Speaker 2: Over there, and you know what, he left us early,
Speaker 2: so he gets no credit for today because he's just
Speaker 2: left us to clean total pubou that's true. He knows
Speaker 2: all the spots and he's already probably at a party
Speaker 2: right now. He's probably out a pub right now. Oh
Speaker 2: of course, he's big over there closing things down.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it, though, because uh, staying in
Speaker 3: a different place, staying in downtown London this year. Typically
Speaker 3: I've stayed with the team. This year, I'm not which
Speaker 3: there's some positive and some negative to that, but I'm
Speaker 3: going to try to take a little bit more of
Speaker 3: the sites and sound of London in while still enjoying
Speaker 3: some good football.
Speaker 2: I'll be there with you. As for our viewers and
Speaker 2: listeners six thirty am, we're gonna have the Public's Tailgate
Speaker 2: show kicking things off, so up bright and early because
Speaker 2: kickoff's at nine to thirty Florida time, And of course
Speaker 2: we want to thank everybody here. I'm filling in for
Speaker 2: JP because as we mentioned, he gets no thank yous,
Speaker 2: but we will thank everyone else that helped put the
Speaker 2: show together. Joe Fortunato, Brent Rieber, Andrea Curry, Will Pease,
Speaker 2: Kate Waski, thank you so much. Jeff, thank you for
Speaker 2: letting me come and sit down with you. And of
Speaker 2: course we love to take part in all the fun here.
Speaker 2: So thanks for listening to The Doug Peterson Show on
Speaker 2: the Jaguars Radio Network.