Speaker 1: Falling in love is the best feeling in the world.
Speaker 1: You see stars, you feel giddy, But sometimes that makes
Speaker 1: you do crazy things, and sometimes that means murder. Just
Speaker 1: because the story starts out with once upon a Times
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it ends happily ever after. Welcome to Crazy
Speaker 1: and Love, a production of Katie Studios and I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Today's guests are true crime producer Chris Graves, joined by
Speaker 1: Antonette Levy. Anjeanette is a journalist with fifteen years of
Speaker 1: experience as a crime and court reporter. She is currently
Speaker 1: a host and correspondent for the Law and Crime Network.
Speaker 1: You can find her on Twitter at Angeanette five and
Speaker 1: Instagram at an Genette. Episode thirty three, The Case of
Speaker 1: the Football Player, the Firecracker, and the Long fall Down.
Speaker 1: Twenty year old Josh Hilberly from Tulsa, Oklahoma was many things.
Speaker 1: A MoMA's boy, a good friend, a loving big brother,
Speaker 1: and a star football player for his high school team.
Speaker 1: The oldest of two boys, Josh's father loved to describe
Speaker 1: his firstborn son as having a smile that could light
Speaker 1: up a room. On Halloween in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: Josh went to a party and met seventeen year old
Speaker 1: Amber Fields. Josh was smitten from the moment he laid
Speaker 1: eyes on Amber. She was gorgeous and smart, outgoing with
Speaker 1: a rebellious streak that Josh's more introverted personality was attracted
Speaker 1: to a romantic at heart. Josh swept Amber off her
Speaker 1: feet and they eventually began dating. Here's Chris. Josh was
Speaker 1: born and raised in Tulsa, Oklahoma. According to his little
Speaker 1: brother Zach, football was just everything in Josh's world. They're
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma, which that's big football country and being a
Speaker 1: high school football stars pretty big d in Oklahoma, so
Speaker 1: Josh's talent on the field made him really popular in school.
Speaker 1: He was six four pounds. Josh's father and his brother
Speaker 1: loved watching Josh play football. According to them, he was
Speaker 1: just phenomenal and lit up the field every Friday night
Speaker 1: with his talent. Josh had just turned twenty a few
Speaker 1: months before meeting Amber, who was seventeen when they met,
Speaker 1: and just to note in Oklahoma age consider his sixteen.
Speaker 1: So this was two consenting adults. So the connection they
Speaker 1: both felt was pretty immediate and they began dating soon after.
Speaker 1: Josh had a really romantic streak and he used it
Speaker 1: to sweep Amber off her feet quite literally. Amber didn't
Speaker 1: know how to dance, and so one night Josh drove
Speaker 1: them to a basketball court at a park in his
Speaker 1: neighborhood and he had Amber stand on his feet and
Speaker 1: he taught her how to slow dance under the stars.
Speaker 1: So in the spring of Josh decided to follow his
Speaker 1: younger brother Zack into the Air Force, and Zach was
Speaker 1: in the middle of serving a tour in Afghanistan in
Speaker 1: the summer of Josh was then shipped off to Lackland
Speaker 1: Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas for basic training,
Speaker 1: which last got eight and a half weeks. Amber wrote
Speaker 1: to him while he was at boot camp. She drove
Speaker 1: eight hours to the Air Force base to see him
Speaker 1: graduate from basic training. It was a big, big day
Speaker 1: and after graduating, Josh got his orders. He was supposed
Speaker 1: to report to Eilson Air Force Base in the North
Speaker 1: Pole and North Pole, Alaska. This is pretty much in
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. This is when this is all unfolding.
Speaker 1: So Josh and Amber have a big, big decision to make.
Speaker 1: The Air Force is not going to let Amber live
Speaker 1: on base with Josh unless they were married. So that's
Speaker 1: the big question. Do they tie the not? Both Josh
Speaker 1: and Amber's parents felt like they were not a good
Speaker 1: match for one another. Their personality seemed to clash, and
Speaker 1: Amber's mother thought neither Amber nor Josh were ready for
Speaker 1: the adult responsibilities that come with marriage. Despite both families
Speaker 1: thinking the young couples twenty two and Amber eight team
Speaker 1: were wrong for each other, they got married anyway in
Speaker 1: a quick courthouse ceremony in August of The wedding may
Speaker 1: have been a no frills affair, but the reception was
Speaker 1: a fancy blowout at a local country club. Young in
Speaker 1: love and now legal in the eyes of the Air Force,
Speaker 1: Josh and Amber moved to Aileson Air Force Base in
Speaker 1: October of So Josh and Amber moved to this relatively
Speaker 1: small and remote military base. I mean, I'd never even
Speaker 1: heard of it. When I was doing the research on
Speaker 1: the story Internet, I haven't heard of it either, and
Speaker 1: I thought I had heard of all of them. It
Speaker 1: is super, super remote. I can't even imagine living in
Speaker 1: a place like that. Think about how isolating that would be.
Speaker 1: And and in Alaska, you know, isn't it dark for much?
Speaker 1: You know, half of the year dark pretty much all
Speaker 1: of the time, which I would think could affect your
Speaker 1: your mood, your circadian rhythm, your health, And I just
Speaker 1: can't even imagine. There's a lot of factors that that
Speaker 1: this particular location would bring into someone's relationships. So the
Speaker 1: base itself only has about two thousand one active duty
Speaker 1: service personnel, and to compare that to some of the
Speaker 1: other larger army bases, the largest one Fort brag that
Speaker 1: has about five and fifty tho active duty personnel on base.
Speaker 1: So this is like a town in the middle of nowhere,
Speaker 1: and they're moving to the North Pole place that has
Speaker 1: nine months with significant snow, with a yearly average of
Speaker 1: fifty eight inches. The national average is twelve inches, and
Speaker 1: it's considered one of the coldest places in Alaska. As
Speaker 1: you mentioned, there's a lot of darkness because the sun
Speaker 1: doesn't come out for a good part of the year,
Speaker 1: and it has an average low night time temperature of
Speaker 1: negative seventeen degrees in January, which is pretty cold. So
Speaker 1: here you have two very young people who have rushed
Speaker 1: into marriage and are living with each other for the
Speaker 1: first time in this harsh cold environment. So you know, Jeanette,
Speaker 1: Josh's dad thought that Josh was making a huge mistake
Speaker 1: when he started dating Amber and eventually married her. They
Speaker 1: were just so different and now they've compounded that all
Speaker 1: of that with this really remote area. What were Amber's
Speaker 1: parents thought, Well, Amber's mother also thought that Josh and
Speaker 1: Amber were not a good match. She really thought they
Speaker 1: were way too young, they were naive, and that they
Speaker 1: looked at marriage not really in a realistic way. They
Speaker 1: looked at it more as a fairy tale and not
Speaker 1: really as this lifelong commitment that's going to take compromise
Speaker 1: and sacrifice and really work relationships. You have to keep
Speaker 1: them in a good spot, and they require a lot
Speaker 1: of thoughtfulness and work to be successful. So once the
Speaker 1: harsh realities of both marriage and Alaska start to sink in,
Speaker 1: you know, Josh and Amber, they start getting into arguments.
Speaker 1: They're fighting more and more, and both would call home
Speaker 1: crying to talk to their parents. So it's about November
Speaker 1: and winners approached and the days are getting darker. The
Speaker 1: isolation is wearing on Josh and Amber, but they get
Speaker 1: some good news. Amber is pregnant. Josh and Amber find
Speaker 1: out they're having a baby boy, and they decided to
Speaker 1: name him Levi and although having a baby on the
Speaker 1: way should have been really happy. Josh and Amber, we're
Speaker 1: finding that being away from their support systems, their friends
Speaker 1: and family in Alaska was really sending them down this
Speaker 1: this really dark path that they just weren't prepared for.
Speaker 1: They weren't mature enough to handle it. Yeah, you have Alaska,
Speaker 1: new marriage, an air Force space, that's a lot for
Speaker 1: these young people. We're going to take a break. We'll
Speaker 1: be back in just a moment. So we just learned
Speaker 1: that in January it's negative seventeen degree and for all
Speaker 1: we dark. And this is when all of this is
Speaker 1: playing out for Josh and Amber. I mean, can you
Speaker 1: imagine being in that situation? Absolutely not. It sounds like
Speaker 1: hell to me. Winter affects me. I think it affects
Speaker 1: a lot of people. But what this is like a
Speaker 1: winter on steroids. This is a whole another level. Not
Speaker 1: only that she you know, Amber is pregnant, which means
Speaker 1: she's got all of these swings whatever, you know, hormones raging. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and none of it's her fault. It's all her body
Speaker 1: making another human being. That that's compounded by everything else.
Speaker 1: Right by January of eleven, Josh Nimber's relationship was on
Speaker 1: the rocks and teetering on disaster. Amber was still in
Speaker 1: her first trimester pregnant with little Levi. She and Josh
Speaker 1: would argue constantly, neither ever knowing what would set the
Speaker 1: other off. On January second, Josh Namber had been fighting
Speaker 1: because Amber wanted take out and Josh did not. Amber
Speaker 1: started making dinner. Josh quote got in her face, knocked
Speaker 1: a dinner plate and drink out of her hand, and
Speaker 1: then grabbed her breasts. Josh squeeze so hard he broke
Speaker 1: blood vessels and bruised Amber. It seemed like Josh has
Speaker 1: been trying to pop her implants. Amber filed a police
Speaker 1: report against Josh for domestic abuse. The reports stated that
Speaker 1: officers took photos of the wounds and also took Josh
Speaker 1: into custody to cool down for the night, but no
Speaker 1: charges were filed. Just a few months later, the young
Speaker 1: couple got hit with another blow. In May, even Josh's
Speaker 1: discharge from the Air Force due to misconduct for drug use.
Speaker 1: Josh had allegedly been using oxycotton. The troubled couple moved
Speaker 1: back home to Tulsa, Oklahoma, and into a twenty fifth
Speaker 1: floor apartment of the University Club Tower building. The University
Speaker 1: Club Tower is pretty well known. It was built in
Speaker 1: ninety six and was the first building in the United
Speaker 1: States to be designed by using a computer. It has
Speaker 1: an interesting design. In the first eight floors are the
Speaker 1: parking structure for the residents, so and then it shoots
Speaker 1: up into the sky with the rest of the building.
Speaker 1: And Josh and Amber moved into the University Club Tower
Speaker 1: the first week of May eleven, and pretty quick it
Speaker 1: becomes apparent that Alaska and the isolation from friends and
Speaker 1: family may not have been at the root of their problems,
Speaker 1: so Josh and Amber pretty quickly Josh and Amber fell
Speaker 1: back into their routine of arguing. Their fighting escalates and
Speaker 1: on May twenty eleven, Josh is now the one filing
Speaker 1: a protective order against Amber in Tulsa County District Court.
Speaker 1: Josh alleges that Amber grabbed the floor lamp and threw
Speaker 1: the lamp at him, heating him in the head and
Speaker 1: wounding him. Josh reported that the paramedics had taken to
Speaker 1: the hospital where he had received ten staples and eleven stitches.
Speaker 1: That's pretty gash. However, nothing came of Josh's protective order
Speaker 1: filing because neither Josh nor Amber showed up at the
Speaker 1: court hearing on and the case was dismissed, which we
Speaker 1: often see in cases of domestic abuse. You and I
Speaker 1: have covered a lot of stories. Somebody reports and then
Speaker 1: they don't show up to finish the report. That's kind
Speaker 1: of common, unfortunately. You know, maybe there's a cooling off
Speaker 1: period and they don't follow through. Yeah, I mean, what
Speaker 1: other things do you think could have been going through
Speaker 1: Josh's mind for not showing up. Look at our culture
Speaker 1: and you know this whole idea that men are the big,
Speaker 1: strong ones, right, and for a lot of men coming
Speaker 1: to terms with the fact that they may be a victim,
Speaker 1: that is very embarrassing. And you know, it's possible that
Speaker 1: Josh felt a lot of shame over the abuse he
Speaker 1: was suffering at the hands of Amber, and that could
Speaker 1: have possibly played a part in him not showing up
Speaker 1: for that hearing. And the CDC actually reports that one
Speaker 1: in seven men will experience physical violence by their intimate
Speaker 1: partner at some point in their lifetimes, and at least
Speaker 1: three million acts of domestic violence will occur annually to men.
Speaker 1: So men can definitely be victims of domestic violence. This
Speaker 1: isn't uncommon, you know. I think it's almost like a
Speaker 1: first Men are human too, and it doesn't matter your gender.
Speaker 1: Anyone can be an abuser, and I think it's hard
Speaker 1: for some people to wrap their heads around that, even
Speaker 1: though I think we're learning more about that if you
Speaker 1: if you really look at these issues and pay attention.
Speaker 1: So men represent as much as fIF of all cases
Speaker 1: of domestic partner violence, and male victims are also less
Speaker 1: likely to seek out medical care, so that the incidences
Speaker 1: of domestic violence on men may very well be under
Speaker 1: reported because of that whole societal norms about viewing men
Speaker 1: as the big, burly types and it's probably just you know,
Speaker 1: embarrassing for them. So the National Domestic Violence Hotline has
Speaker 1: reported that when they hear from male contacts that reach
Speaker 1: out daily, that these men feel emasculated and like less
Speaker 1: of a man when undergoing situations of abuse at the
Speaker 1: hands of spouses or partners, and some have even reported
Speaker 1: feeling so ashamed that they don't want to acknowledge the
Speaker 1: abuse because they fear that if they do, it will
Speaker 1: make the situation real. So at this point, neither Josh
Speaker 1: nor Amber seem like angels when it comes to domestic violence.
Speaker 1: But I think we need to remember that both of
Speaker 1: them are really pretty much kids. She's nineteen and he's
Speaker 1: still twenty two. So how does a young man who's
Speaker 1: just twenty two years old process being domestically abused, especially
Speaker 1: one who grew up in the hyper masculine world of football.
Speaker 1: And did Josh even know there was help out there
Speaker 1: for him? It just feels like both of their parents
Speaker 1: worst nightmare was coming true. Just eight days after Josh's
Speaker 1: twenty third birthday, at four pm on g In seventh,
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, a Tulsa nine one one operator received
Speaker 1: a strange call. Someone had witnessed a man fall out
Speaker 1: of the twenty five story window at the University Club
Speaker 1: Tower building and watched him plummet seventeen floors to his death.
Speaker 1: The body landed on the roof of the building's parking structure.
Speaker 1: Take a listen to the nine one one call the
Speaker 1: park department and I just saw someone jump out the
Speaker 1: window out of the probably the seventh nineteenth Flooria University
Speaker 1: Club Power Department at keventh Eaton, Denver. Let me keep
Speaker 1: the neighbor of that place is University University Club, which
Speaker 1: is them. Some were on the way, all right, I
Speaker 1: could not smoking figure out here looking right at there.
Speaker 1: I'm looking right at it, and he the glass broke
Speaker 1: and he fell down. Well, the people, okay, I don't
Speaker 1: want to three four or five, seven, eight, ninety eleven,
Speaker 1: twelve four We all right, thank them. When first responders
Speaker 1: arrived to the roof of the parking deck, they found
Speaker 1: Amber distraught and crying next to Josh's broken and dead body.
Speaker 1: Amber was led away by police officers who also arrived,
Speaker 1: and Amber was begging everyone to quote fixed Josh. The
Speaker 1: detectives and police officers who arrived on the scene at
Speaker 1: first believe they were dealing with an accidental and tragic death.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty shocking. It's awful. I can't even imagine
Speaker 1: seeing something like that. So when law enforcement gets to
Speaker 1: the University Club tower, they think they're just dealing with
Speaker 1: a freak accident that somebody might have fallen out a window.
Speaker 1: They asked Amber to come down to the station to
Speaker 1: file a report. Amber's grandmother comes with her. At around
Speaker 1: six pm, Amber and her grandmother are sitting alone in
Speaker 1: a police interrogation room. Amber starts talking to her grandmother,
Speaker 1: and the officer who brought them in to file the
Speaker 1: report watches them on a closed circuit monitor, and he
Speaker 1: decided to record the conversation. The officer didn't tell the
Speaker 1: grandmother or Amber that they were being recorded. So Amber
Speaker 1: is distraught and she starts telling her grandmother what happened,
Speaker 1: and her grandmother instinctively tries to get Amber to stop
Speaker 1: talking to no Avail. We can listen to a little
Speaker 1: excerpt of what the officer recorded. Josh just dead, and
Speaker 1: I'm here. I didn't just lose my husband. Genie and
Speaker 1: Patrick lost their son. Sad lost his brother, his grandma's
Speaker 1: poor Grandma's gonna have ar attack when she finds out
Speaker 1: there her little Josh is gone. Well, I kept seeing
Speaker 1: like I just held his broken body. I wonder if
Speaker 1: his parents know yet. I'm sure if they did, they
Speaker 1: were right. They kept saying, if we stay together, I'm
Speaker 1: going to kill him. So did this happen? How did
Speaker 1: this happen? Why did he have to follow the window,
Speaker 1: fall out of window. I'm a horrible person who could
Speaker 1: do that? Who could do that? Push my husband and
Speaker 1: make him fall up the window? Did you intentionally know?
Speaker 1: Of course, not that's what they're gonna take it. I
Speaker 1: just keep watching him fall over and over and over,
Speaker 1: getting my head watching him flail. I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: my last thought was please catch yourself. You know. I
Speaker 1: just want to know what was going through his head,
Speaker 1: if he knew he was going to die, if he
Speaker 1: said a prayer, or if he cursed my name, or
Speaker 1: if he just I thought that he could catch himself too.
Speaker 1: And then just watching him in the ground. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: When that officer who was recording her that Amber says
Speaker 1: she actually pushed Josh before he stumbled and fell through
Speaker 1: the window. The case now goes from accidental to a
Speaker 1: possible homicide investigation. Amber is arrested on a second degree
Speaker 1: murder charge and taken into custody. Just hearing that is
Speaker 1: so chilling. I mean, she's clearly broken up about it.
Speaker 1: It's not like some of the other interrogation things where
Speaker 1: we've heard like people singing or doing really weird things.
Speaker 1: She does sound broken, but she did say she pushed him,
Speaker 1: so we don't know the situation between them. When that happened.
Speaker 1: Hours after Josh Hilberling fell to his death on June seven,
Speaker 1: two eleven, investigators believe they have what amounts to a
Speaker 1: confession to at the very least second degree murder from
Speaker 1: his wife. When detectives searched Josh and Namber's apartment, they
Speaker 1: found a clean and tidy place with no signs of
Speaker 1: a possible physical fight. Nothing seemed out of place. Officers
Speaker 1: also found a bag pack that belonged to Josh. Amber
Speaker 1: story was that she and Josh had been fighting that
Speaker 1: day because Josh was planning on going to a music
Speaker 1: festival with his friends and he was going to sell
Speaker 1: pills at the festival. She explained that this is why
Speaker 1: the police found Josh's packed bag. Amber also told investigators
Speaker 1: that Josh grabbed her by the shoulders so hard his
Speaker 1: grip left marks and a scratch, and that she had
Speaker 1: pushed him in self defense. She claimed that Josh had
Speaker 1: stumbled back into of the window and the window had broken.
Speaker 1: Before Amber knew it, Josh had fallen to his death.
Speaker 1: But when detective stuck deeper into Josh Naber's relationship, they
Speaker 1: found the protection order Josh had filed against Amber just
Speaker 1: weeks before his death. Detectives felt the protection order pointed
Speaker 1: to Amber being the abuser in their relationship. When investigators
Speaker 1: spoke with Josh's family, his father told him that Josh
Speaker 1: had called him on June seventh, just hours before his death,
Speaker 1: to tell him he couldn't take the fighting and abuse anymore.
Speaker 1: Josh's father said Josh had packed a bag and wanted
Speaker 1: his father to come pick him up. His father was
Speaker 1: at work and told him he couldn't come until later. So,
Speaker 1: according to Josh's dad, earlier in the day on June seventh,
Speaker 1: Josh called him to tell him that he couldn't take
Speaker 1: the abuse from the fighting anymore, and he asked to
Speaker 1: be picked up. Josh said told Josh he couldn't come
Speaker 1: right away because he was at work, and that he'd
Speaker 1: come after he was done, and that would be the
Speaker 1: last time that Josh's father spoke to his son, and
Speaker 1: that call really haunts his father to this day and
Speaker 1: he regrets that he didn't come get Josh when he
Speaker 1: first called. But according to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence,
Speaker 1: the most dangerous time for victim of abuse is when
Speaker 1: they finally decided to leave that abuser. And of course,
Speaker 1: Amber claimed that Josh hadn't actually packed the bag to
Speaker 1: leave her, but he had packed the bag because he
Speaker 1: was planning to go to a music festival with some
Speaker 1: friends where he planned to sell some pills, which is
Speaker 1: part of what Josh had been doing apparently, and part
Speaker 1: of what the strife was in their relationship now that
Speaker 1: he was out of the Air Force and didn't have
Speaker 1: a job, and that this was the whole reason that
Speaker 1: they were fighting to begin with. They were fighting because
Speaker 1: he was leaving to go hang out with his friends.
Speaker 1: Let's stop here for another break. Yeah. The toxicology report
Speaker 1: from Josh's autopsy came back clean. There were no drugs,
Speaker 1: no alcohol in his system, which seems to poke a
Speaker 1: hole in Amber's story. Investigators also spoke to one of
Speaker 1: Josh and Amber's next door neighbors, and he tells them
Speaker 1: that he heard Amber yell no, no, no, and then
Speaker 1: charging footsteps before hearing the sound of glass breaking, and
Speaker 1: then hearing Amber scream oh my god, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god. On June eight, investigators bump up the
Speaker 1: charges against Amber to first degree murder. Amber Hilberling was
Speaker 1: released that afternoon on a two D fifty thou dollar bond,
Speaker 1: that's according to jail records, and while Amber is awaiting trial,
Speaker 1: she gives birth to Levi on August six. Amber has
Speaker 1: offered two different plea deals that would have dropped her
Speaker 1: sentence down to five years with fifteen years of role,
Speaker 1: but Amber declines both of those authors. She maintains her
Speaker 1: innocence and that what happened to Josh was simply a
Speaker 1: horrible accident. I know. She also maintained that the push
Speaker 1: was an accident, that they were in a fight, and
Speaker 1: she didn't realize that those windows could break. You would
Speaker 1: think on a floor of a building you would have
Speaker 1: some pretty maybe shatterproof glass or something like that, but
Speaker 1: in this case, obviously they didn't. And it's just absolutely horrible.
Speaker 1: This was, I hate to say it, a story where
Speaker 1: the parents might have been right, and maybe they should
Speaker 1: have waited a little bit. Definitely, I think anybody that
Speaker 1: young really needs to think twice before committing to a
Speaker 1: relationship long term. To me, when I hear about people
Speaker 1: having children so young, I mean, think about how your
Speaker 1: brain matures, how you mentally and emotionally mature or not
Speaker 1: when you're that young. And that's why when I see
Speaker 1: people getting into these things at sex just such a
Speaker 1: young age and and mistaking probably infatuation for actual love.
Speaker 1: I really want to just walk up to them. Do
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing? Do you know what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it can't work out for the best,
Speaker 1: but I really think you got to think twice. Sometimes
Speaker 1: we may never really know absolutely without a doubt, what
Speaker 1: was going on it. You never know what goes on
Speaker 1: behind closed doors. I truly believe that with relationships, even
Speaker 1: if you think you know a couple really well, you
Speaker 1: don't know what goes on. Amber's child began on March eleventh, thirteen,
Speaker 1: and she took the stand on March sixte Amber testified
Speaker 1: that she pushed Josh in self defense and that she
Speaker 1: never intended to kill her husband. Amber further explained that
Speaker 1: she could not have anticipated the window breaking on March eighteenth,
Speaker 1: two eleven, just seven days after her trial began. Amber
Speaker 1: is convicted of second degree murder. This does not require
Speaker 1: under law that the prosecution prove intent to kill. The
Speaker 1: jury only deliberated for three hours, and the judge upheld
Speaker 1: the jury's recommendation of a twenty five year prison term.
Speaker 1: In March of the Joshua Hilberling Estates sued the University
Speaker 1: Club Tower about the thin windows. The suit was eventually
Speaker 1: dismissed because it was filed after the time window to
Speaker 1: file such cases had closed. Sadly, after a failed appeal,
Speaker 1: Amber was found dead by hanging in her cell on
Speaker 1: October and autopsy found cut scars on Amber's wrists and arms,
Speaker 1: as well as meth anphetamine and her bloodstream at the
Speaker 1: time of her death. Before her suicide, Amber told the
Speaker 1: corrections officer quote she said, I have to live with
Speaker 1: that I killed my husband, and I'm going to have
Speaker 1: to tell my son someday that I killed his father. Thankfully,
Speaker 1: Josh Nambrason is thriving with amper side of the family
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