1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Oh, watchte Clasper into the end down textown, textown, text down, textdown, tapsnap, 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: bluff all over time. Nobody's perfect in the NFL, not 3 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: even the chiefs of the Rams with their unclamish records. 4 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: The Bills, they're a long way from perfect. Bills and 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Texans getting set to kick it off in Houston, Ray 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Ray mcleoud the return man from Buffalo. The punt relatively short, 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: bearcatsick of for and McLoud. The cloud boots it, kicks 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: it around, a couple of players around it. The Texans 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: come up with it inside the thirty yard line. Three 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: receivers to the right, one man to the left. Here's 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: the snap, poor man rush watch it. He gets rid 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: of it, follows down to Hopkins near the goal line, 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: backs his way into the end zone for the score. Touchdown. 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: You sit the snapped of the horcas urban is the 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: return may The punt is blocked. The punt is blocked. 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Texan scoop it up on the near sideline and they 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: bring down the man at the twenty two yard line. 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: The Texans to try a field goal. Here a thirty 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: three yarder Bare Burns kick is up. It is good 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: watch him to throw. Pressured again, he gets away from 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: a sack, rolls to his right, Lorenzo Alexander trying to 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: chase him down. Thrown into the end zone, it is 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: intercepted in the end zone, picked up by Jordan Poyer. 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Halftime in Houston, the Bills trailer Texans Taton and nothing. 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Watson's gonna throw it, passes tipped at the line and 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: in his intercepted picked off by Lorenzo Alexander. He is 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: down at the Texans thirty yard line, twenty three yards 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: for Stephen Housgill kicked his on the way and it 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: is good and the Bills are on the board. Josh 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: Allen is down on one knee at the forty seven 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: yard line. Took a big hit from Jadeveon Clowney. So 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: it's Nathan Peterman for the first time since Baltimore. The 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Bills catch him with a fifty two yard depon house 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: to field goal and they trail it now by a 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: score of ten to six. Wats it takes the snap, 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: gonna throw it, I'm thirty short, looks right. He is 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: brought down back of the thirty one yard line and 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: there's a loose ball of the Bills recover at the 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: thirty one yard line. As Watson went down, the ball 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: came out. Peterman looks to throw stands in the pocket, 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: fires into the end zone, got a man open, fires 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: that way, it is caught, touchdown, touchdown. Buffalo Zay Jones 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: had a step at half on his man. The Bills 44 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: take the lead on a fifteen yard touchdown path. It's 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: a twenty seven yard field goal attempt for Kami fairbar 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: for the tie. The kick is up and the kick 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: is good. The game is time. With a minute thirty 48 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: four left to play. Peterman walks up to the line, 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: trying to make themself bird. Second and ten from the 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: twenty five to snap, Here comes the blitz. Peterman gets 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: rid of it, picked off from Peter Stepson at the 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: thirty yard line. They will walk you for the pick six. 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph runs it in for the goal ahead touchdown. 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: Help the Texans to just twenty points in this game 55 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: of Bills. Talk about a limited offense. Just thirteen points 56 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: on the scoreboard for the Buffalo Bills. Fid here you go, 57 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. That's our game. Rewind presented by Toshibi, the 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: official copy or company of the Buffalo Bills. Good afternoon, 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, John Murphy, steam tasker, here in 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio, getting ready for it, our show 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: where I'm the air from now untill three One Bill's 62 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. A very disappointing the afternoon, folks, 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: Folks you listening. MURF took that loss hard. I took 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: it hard. Still taking it hard. Yeah, And I can't 65 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: even talk. That was a hard loss. And I, for me, 66 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: I was, I was listening and kind of keeping track 67 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: of it. We had a four to twenty five game. 68 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: I did the Tennessee Titan Baltimore Raven game kicked off 69 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: at four twenty five Eastern, so I had a chance 70 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: to at least try and keep up with the Bills 71 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: Texans game. And for me, and I'm in the minority, 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: I know that I was. It was an encouraging loss 73 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: for me. The defense was dominant again. In fact, it 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: was it got better from a great performance the week before, 75 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: and it played even better this last week against Houston. 76 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: If you if you don't muff a punt, if you 77 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: don't get a punt block, if you don't take a 78 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 1: stupid pre snap penalties for the Bills. Oh yeah, he's 79 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: lining up offensively and you're you win that game going away. 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: Your defense doesn't give up any points. That and the 81 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: reason these games are so tough to take it because 82 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: you should have won. Yeah, that's the that's the horrible 83 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: part of it. It is a game should have one. Yeah, 84 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: you're good enough to win that with no offense. We're 85 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: not used to seeing teams play defense a well and 86 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: coming up with the loss. I mean, the Bills are 87 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: playing defense as well as just about anybody in the 88 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 1: league right now. Seven sacks, three takeaways, number of tackles 89 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: for losses, great coverage all over the field. You played 90 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: great defense like that. Typically you're gonna win if you 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: can get anything out of your offense. The problem is 92 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: the Bills get nothing out of their offense. They get nothing. 93 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: And the Steve pointed out the special team's problems. You're 94 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: not they're not good enough to overcome muff punts and 95 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: block punts. Uh, they're not good enough to overcome twelve penalties. 96 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: Twelve penalties, Yeah, number of pre snap penalties. And on offense, 97 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: that's just taking bad They're just playing bad aff and 98 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: they gotta play and they gotta give themselves a chance. 99 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: They had one, you know, and you always go back 100 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: to this, you have that one player, this one play 101 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: that goes bad your way, and it kind of has 102 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: that ripple effect I always talk about. And then you 103 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: have that one play maybe it's gonna go great. Josh 104 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: Allen hits Helvin Benjamin a forty two yard and it 105 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: comes back because you're not even lined up right. I mean, 106 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: it makes you, It makes you want to scream. I mean, 107 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And how do you let a 108 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: guy block a punt? And now you you know, hm, 109 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: muffing a punt. This stuff like that is just it's crazy. 110 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: But that's where the Bills are. If you win the 111 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: way they could, if you win on defense the way 112 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: they did it, they were so dominating. All you had 113 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: to really do was get a push on special teams, 114 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: and they couldn't do that. Housechood was good again. I mean, 115 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: hen't missing the kicks, but he didn't get enough opportunities. 116 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: And then you know, you come back and you drop 117 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: a game like that. Josh Allen coming out of the game. 118 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean the throw Peterman had for the pick, I mean, 119 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: for the touchdown was a nice throw and it looked 120 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: like why, and I thought, Wow, that's it, it's gonna 121 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. And then you know you have 122 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: another um. You know, you give up the they give 123 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: up the pass interference. Good call by the way, Yeah, yeah, 124 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: I have a problem with that. But this is a 125 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 1: game that's frustrating really from the standpoint as you should 126 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: have this one, you should have won. You should be 127 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: three and three. Yep, it should be three and three, 128 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: and you're not. You're two and four. Now you're you know, 129 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: you're climbing out of a hole. Another road game coming 130 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: up to two and four the Bills there. We're gonna 131 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: talk about that game at length in depth today. We 132 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: got a good guest lineup coming up. Dan Orlovski, a 133 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: dozen years in the NFL's a quarterback. Now he's an 134 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: NFL analyst on ESPN. He's going to join us at 135 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: the bottom of this hour. Chris Brown, Bills Inside or 136 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com his regular Monday visit at one 137 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: o'clock today, and Fred Jackson, former Bills running back, his 138 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: regular Monday visit at two o'clock today. Steve and I 139 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: here until three, Ready to take your calls, Ready to 140 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: get your thoughts on yesterday's game. The phone line's open 141 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: at eight oh three oh five fifty and toll free 142 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or 143 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: you can reach us on Twitter. We got a Twitter 144 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: question up you can respond to. So it's the quarterback question. 145 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: We don't know which way it's going. We don't know. 146 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: We have no updates on Josh Allen's status in rappaport. 147 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: Nfl dot Com reported earlier today that Allen will have 148 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: an MRI today more tests on is injured right elbow. 149 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: If Josh Allen is healthy on Sunday, who did the 150 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Bills start at quarterback? What do you think? Pretty simple question? 151 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: Who did they start a quarterback? If Josh Allen is healthy, 152 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: did they go back to Josh Allen? Or is it 153 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: time to give Josh Allen, you know, a break? I 154 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: guess and see if Annesley could do something for you. 155 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: Give us a call, let's know what you think. Eight 156 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight 157 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: live fifty two five fifty or a way in via Twitter. 158 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: If Josh Allen is healthy, who did the Bills start 159 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback? It's a tough call. See if he's healthy, though, 160 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm going with Josh Allen. Look, I'm committed to the 161 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: development program they've set up for Josh Allen. I know 162 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: it's been tough. We'll talk with dan Orlowski about it, 163 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: what he sees both good and bad from Josh Allen. 164 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: But if he is healthy, I'd go back to Josh 165 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Allen to start this Sunday at India. I really would. Yeah, 166 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: I agree, and I've said that from the very beginning. 167 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: If you get into a point and they and they, 168 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: this wasn't the plan. I mean, you didn't. And it 169 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: seems anytime you say anything about Nathan Peterman these days, 170 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: it sounds crazy to say you were going to think 171 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: of anything, that he's gonna play anything bad. But you 172 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: wanted Josh Allen to sit and wait for a while 173 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: before he played. You had to play him way before 174 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: you were ready to play him, or way before he 175 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: was ready. And he's and you got to learn on 176 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: the job. You knew they were gonna be dark days 177 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: like this and this is what you're gonna have to 178 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: live through. But I said, once you made the decision 179 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: to start and play Josh Allen, do not take him 180 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: off the field unless he's injured. You gotta let him 181 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: in there and fight him in the problem then becomes 182 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: keeping him mentally healthy, keeping him on the straight in there, 183 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: keeping him positive, keeping him like, okay, it's okay. Just 184 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: keep playing and getting better. Work on your work on 185 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: your deficiencies. Learn more about the offense, learn more about 186 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do against you, deficient defensively, be 187 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: more patient in the pocket, all the things that you've 188 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: got to do, and take your time, you know. And 189 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: like he came out of the box, he came up 190 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: out of the box yesterday. There was that quick slant 191 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: to to Calvin Benjamin and it bounces it. It's like 192 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: a ten yards throw. Any bounces it to him? Who 193 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: take a deep breath, man, take a deep breath. And 194 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's just a young guy coming out 195 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 1: full of adrenaline and not you know, not taking a 196 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: deep breath before he actually pulls the trigger. And so 197 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: he got better a little bit. He got a little better, 198 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: you know, after that. But still, you know, that's what 199 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: you're looking at. You're looking at a guy who's trying 200 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: to do it all himself with every throw, and he 201 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: got to be more patient and understand you know and 202 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: understand what's going on a little better than that. They 203 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: need to coach him too, and I would commit to him, 204 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: and I know they have committed to him. If he's healthy, 205 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: I'd stay with him starting a quarterback against the Colts. 206 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by this concept of ruining a young quarterback, 207 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: and everybody says, well, Derek Carr, We're gonna ask Dan 208 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: or Lofsky about that. What constitutes ruining a young quarterback? 209 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: How does that happen? I don't know. I mean, I know, 210 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: I see the numbers on Derek Carr. I don't. I 211 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: wasn't following, you know the way I thinking David Cards. 212 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: When I'm thinking David Carr in Houston, I don't recall 213 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: following the Houston Texans that much in death back. Then 214 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: clearly David Carr struggled. I don't. That's the example everybody 215 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: points to, like, well, don't ruin him, like the Texans 216 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: ruined David Carr. Well, I don't know how that happened. 217 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: And I'm intrigued, and I need to know more about 218 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: how a quarterback has ruined. What do we talk about 219 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: seventy two times in his first year. I get that 220 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: and Josh's I'm targeted to get. I think the difference 221 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: is that is it sacks is just sacks that you 222 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: worry about. You kind of know every team and every 223 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: situation that every quarterback has ever been in has been unique. 224 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is different than Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen 225 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: and those guys. This year. He's different than Patrick Mahomes 226 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: last year. His situation is different. Every situation is different. 227 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: And even you go back to Ryan Tannehill coming into 228 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: Miami and starting, it was different for them because you know, 229 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's playing with this particular team in this particular town, 230 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: with this defense, with these wide receivers, this running game, 231 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: this offensive line, and this coaching staff. There are so 232 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: many variables that go into every scenario where you're trying 233 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: to develop a young quarterback. You gotta handle it the 234 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: best way you can day by day with a big 235 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: picture in mind. And I don't think there's any question 236 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: that if you're going to get the most out of 237 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, he'll get more out of it if he plays. 238 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: But you've got to find a way that the job 239 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: one for the offensive staff of the Bills is to 240 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: give this guy some success. Yes, somehow, some way find 241 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: a way to get him to throw the football to 242 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: a guy that can get separation. It's hard to do 243 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: with these receivers. It's hard to do when you're getting 244 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: a pass rush like he's gotten the last few weeks. 245 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: It's hard to do given the fact that you know, 246 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: you've got to make sure he can get his eyes 247 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: in the right spot and look at the defense the 248 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: right way. You got all kinds of things against you. 249 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: But the real question is can you find a way 250 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: to get Josh Allen to have some success throwing the football. 251 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: If you can do that, then you can take another step. 252 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: But right now, you know, his good throws are few 253 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: and far between. When he makes them, they're they're great. 254 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: The last throw he made was the one to Benjamin 255 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: was a dynamic throw down the field on the hat, 256 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, put it right on the money, and he 257 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: got his elbow whacked, you know. So it's like, you know, so, 258 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: you've got to find a way for him to have 259 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: some success. And I think he's better throwing the ball 260 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: in those intermediate to long routes down like he we 261 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: saw yesterday, than he is on the short passes. But 262 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: the problem is if he's going to drop back long 263 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: enough to throw this intermediate and long passes, the pass 264 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: protection's got to hold up, and it hasn't. I think 265 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: the coaching is being challenged here, Steven. I like your point, 266 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: and I agree with your point. They've got to find 267 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: ways to make him successful with all of his limitations, 268 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: with his lack of experience with the and with the 269 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: guys on this offense, with the guys they don't have 270 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: on this office. You know, the limitations they have. They've 271 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: got to find a way to make him comfortable and 272 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: make him successful in at least in a marginal way. 273 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: He's not even there yet. Josh is not He's not 274 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: even you know, he's barely playable the way he's played 275 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, and they they've got to 276 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: find a way to improve upon that. And if he's healthy, 277 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm putting him in. But you might have a different idea. 278 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: Give us a call phone lines open eight oh three 279 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty 280 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: two five fifty, or he can weigh and buy a 281 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: Twitter at one bill slide. Let us know what you think. 282 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: If Josh Allen is healthy, do you play him. Do 283 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: you start him on Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts. To 284 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: call here from Gary in Clifton Springs, New York. Go ahead, Gary, 285 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Hey John hay Steve, 286 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: huge fan of Will list to you guy as much 287 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: as I can. Um, just real quick to your Twitter question. 288 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: If he's healthy, start them? Um? If not, I'm thinking 289 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: that about going with Get Derek Anderson in there, get 290 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: him in reps, get him in the pads, get him 291 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean ready for the game on Sunday. But my 292 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: main reason for calling is I want of your both 293 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: professional opinions on this second quarter thirty nine seconds last, 294 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: we had the ball, three timeouts. Last they won one play, 295 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: then run the clock out. Why is that Yeah, because 296 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: they took a big loss on that play. They went 297 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: minus three on the play. And what will happen is 298 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: and if they were gonna do it anything else where 299 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: they gonna do. If they're gonna hand it off, you're 300 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: not gonna throw it again because if it's incomplete, then 301 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna not gonna get out of the half without 302 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: giving the Texans the ball back. What happens is on 303 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: those plays if you can get a good gain on 304 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: first down, then you're then the wheels are off, and 305 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: then you can go because then you can switch to 306 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: flip the field because if the worst comes to worst, 307 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: you can punt it and get them down in their end. 308 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: But if you give him that one play, he threw 309 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: that little swing pass to Shady McCoy and they got 310 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: minus four yards. So now it's second and fourteen, and 311 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: now you're looking at and there's still thirty seconds on 312 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: the clock with your timeouts. Listen, on second and thirteen, 313 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna drop back and throw it again. Now there's 314 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven seconds left on the clock. With an incomplete pass. 315 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: Now you can't get out of the half. You gotta 316 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: give them the ball back and then anything can happen. 317 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: So what you're doing is you'd give him that one 318 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: shot to maybe make something happen. Give it to your 319 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: best player, Shady. If he can get an eight ten 320 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: yard game, then the wheels are off, the training wheels 321 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: are off. You take the time out and you stay 322 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: on the field. But when you take the loss on 323 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: that first play, you tell off it. That's it. That's 324 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: all the chance you get. If you can't make it 325 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: go on that first play and give yourselves a chance 326 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: on second down or get a first down or a 327 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: big play coming off the field. What you're saying it 328 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: does not show a great deal of confidence in what 329 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: your offense can do. But why would they have a confidence? Yeah, 330 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we We're talking about a team 331 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: that's gonna win with a defense shutting them out. You're 332 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: not going to give them another short field after your 333 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: special teams let you down twice too. I mean they're 334 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: they're kind of you know, as a defense and as 335 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: a head coach, you kind of feel like your defense 336 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: is on an island. Yesterday, your offense wasn't doing anything, 337 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: and your special teams had disappeared, at least everybody except 338 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: Stephen Housket. So you know they had they did have 339 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: thirty nine seconds left and a half, and they had 340 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: the ball on what was it? There? Was it their 341 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: twenty five yard line? Was it a regular touchback or 342 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: I can't remember how they got a twenty yard Yeah, 343 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: they got on their twenty yard line, so they're even 344 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: deeper than if they'd hit a touchback. They took a 345 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: minus play, So now it's second and fourteen on their 346 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: on their sixteen yard line. No way. I mean, there's 347 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: no way you're going to risk that at halftime, given 348 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: the way, even though your defense is playing great, because 349 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: if you don't get out of there, you give them 350 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: a chance. Basically, So I get it. You know, they 351 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: did play a conservative, There's no way about it. But 352 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: you can certainly, you can certainly say that was probably 353 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: the smart thing to do, was playing a conservative in 354 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: that spot. They call here from Paul and North Collins, 355 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: New York. Ahead, Paul, you are on the air. Yeah, 356 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask you a couple of things. 357 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: See what you thought, um in the first drive going 358 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: down the field when allen to the past, I don't 359 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: know they were on the past was like the five 360 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: yard line and the receiver got cole cocked and uh, 361 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: I would have swore that was a penalty. If that 362 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: was Tom Brady, they're up in fifteen plagues. Yeah, they didn't. 363 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: They didn't throw the past. Interference the Bills a short 364 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: a little to Zay Jones. Yeah, I thought it was. 365 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: I thought the hit was early. It was too early, right, right, right, 366 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Well, another thing, after they Peter 367 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: was scoredinated, they were just before he threw the pick. 368 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: Don't you think they should have started pounding the ball 369 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: because of the defense being so good. Even if we 370 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: didn't make a first sound, we could have kicked the ball. 371 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: Defense would have kept them down. You mean, at the 372 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: end of the game, they're trying to win though, right, 373 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: they're trying to move down field to house your field 374 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: goal range. Right. Well, but what I'm saying is, instead 375 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: of having Peterman with his record throwing the ball, let's 376 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: try to just pound it and see what happens. Are 377 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: you sigging? But when they had the three point lead 378 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: after Peterman's TV right, right, I don't know how many 379 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: possessions they had before the Texans tied it up. I 380 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: think they might have switched possession. But yeah, I would. Yeah, 381 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: I'm with you totally. You're trying to play then you're 382 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: trying to shorten the game. You're trying to run the clock, 383 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: and you're trying to just grind out first downs. But 384 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: if you're you know, if you're facing second and nine, 385 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, what are you gonna do? If you're you 386 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So, I mean, I get it. 387 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember the plays you're talking about, but you're 388 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: right there and believe me, that's there. That was their 389 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: plan and about if at once they took a three 390 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: point lead, they wanted that game to get over in 391 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: a big hurry. Yeah. So they're up by three and 392 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: they get the ball back to Bills, get it with 393 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: ten and a half minutes left, and run six minutes 394 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: off the clock. You know, did a pretty good job. 395 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: They had to put it away with three fifty five left. Um. 396 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: The Texans eventually tied it up with a long drive 397 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: of their own, So I think they did a pretty 398 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: good job. That long drive was the thing that did 399 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: it that when the when the Texans really had to 400 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: have it, they put together drive at the end of 401 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: the game to tie that up and forty one yard 402 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: pass interference call was yea, and yeah that was a 403 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: good call. It was yeah, I mean, that's what you gotta, 404 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: that's you gotta. You gotta hand it, hand it to him. 405 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: That was that was a penalty. So, um, and that 406 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: was your your first your Paul had caller said, you know, 407 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: after the Peterman TV they did get conservative. They ran 408 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: six minutes off a ten minute clock, so they did 409 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: exactly what they were supposed to do. In fact, that 410 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: was probably as effective as the offense was had given 411 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: him some help. Yeah, except for the touchdown they got 412 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: um and the first one he said on the first 413 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: drive when they had the bang bang play to u 414 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: Zay Jones down the middle. And that's what I and 415 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: I called a bang bang play because that's the terminology 416 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: the officials use. If it is a very close play 417 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: and it's bang bang, even if it does appear to 418 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: be early, they will not call that. Um. They do 419 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: not want to start calling those plays that happened so 420 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: close to simultaneous that it's it's you know, it was 421 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: the guy hit him early. I agree, no question, but 422 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: that's problem. That's what they do. Though. If it's early 423 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: but not early enough to be earlier than that, I 424 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: guess you're right there. That's you're right when you say 425 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: you're not going to call a bang bang plays. The 426 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: bang bang starts to become bang bang instead of bang bang, right, 427 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: So it starts to be a judgment call. And particularly 428 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: given the fact that it was early in the game. Yeah, 429 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with it, even though it 430 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: probably was early. They make that known that they're not 431 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: going to call those plays. So that's that's when I 432 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: don't even think that while the bench would probably say 433 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: something about it, they won't. Yeah, that's they can call 434 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: him from Pete in Buffalo. Go ahead, Pete, you're on 435 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: the air with us. Yes, I just have one question 436 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: and then hang up. I'm just wondering, how come you 437 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: guys make all kinds of excuses for Allen? And uh, 438 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: and you guys, have you heard any excuses? And Allen 439 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: has mark sorry actually at playing quarterback for the Bills. 440 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: Then Peterman and I just think, have you heard any 441 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: excuses from Wait? Wait, Pete? What what about? What's Josh 442 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: Allen done that that Peterman didn't do? What? Say it again? 443 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: Allen has been Allen has been terrible, and but Peterman 444 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: had a horror. I know he had a horrible game 445 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: last year again his first professional guy game, and then 446 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: this year, this year he didn't get much of a chance. 447 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: And uh, and now yesterday I started the season. Go ahead, Pete. 448 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: Been a hero yesterday except for that one play, Pete. 449 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: Here's the difference. Here's the thing you're missing. Here's what 450 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: you're missing. Peterman turns it over. Period, he turns it over. 451 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: He throws sixes, and he turns it over. Josh doesn't 452 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: turn it over. He does want you know, he has, 453 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: but he doesn't turn it over multiple times in successful drive. Right. 454 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: But the thing is Peterman's gotten less playing time than Allen, 455 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: that's right, and he's turned it over five times more 456 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: he turns it over. You can't turn it over. And uh, well, 457 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: I just think that Peterman's getting a raw deal. And 458 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: because they doll all their money in the basket for Allen, 459 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: now they're gonna go with him, come hell or high 460 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: water and Peterman. I guarantee if Peterman will end up 461 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: on another team at some point, and he'll probably do 462 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: a great job, I'll no one we're listening, and no 463 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: one will be more shocked than most Bills fans if 464 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: Peterman goes on to a successful starting career in the NFL. 465 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, though, but Pete, that's the difference. 466 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. But if if Peterman wouldn't 467 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: turn it over, he wouldn't look so bad and things 468 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't go so bad. There's no doubt about it. He 469 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: earned the chance to start for the flow Bills in 470 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: the preseason this year, and he stunk so badly in 471 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: the early going in Baltimore they pulled him and benched him, 472 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: and then it was off. And then every time he 473 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: has gotten on the field, either in relief or as 474 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: a starter, he throws interceptions. And that you cannot have 475 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: that that is the one thing that you can't, particularly 476 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: if you've got a really good defense, you just can't 477 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: turn it over. And that's I think that is the 478 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: one thing that snake bites Peterman, even more so than 479 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: the ineffectiveness and his you know, he can't the arm 480 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: strength or whatever. He just turns it over way too much, 481 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: and that that will get him benched quicker than anything. 482 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: I know who the caller was talking about making excuses 483 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: for Josh Allen. I haven't. You haven't listened. I've been 484 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: trying to pull talk Murph off the ledge all morning 485 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: about Josh Allen. He is not. He is not making 486 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: excuses for Josh Allen to me. I know that. However, 487 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: if he's healthy, I think he should start. And I said, 488 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: that's the situation they're in. It's dark times, no question 489 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: about it. It wouldn't be quite so dark if they 490 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: had not muffed a punt and not getting a punt 491 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: blocked and taking stupid penalties. It wouldn't be so dark today. 492 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: You'd be three and three and looking terrible with a 493 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: bad offense and a rookie quarterback. But you got a 494 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: team around him that's playing pretty darn well. That wasn't 495 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: good enough yesterday. They got to play perfect. They gotta 496 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: play They can't make mistakes. They can't make stupid mistakes, 497 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: and they certainly can't muff punts and get puns blocked, 498 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: which are not mental mistakes. Those are physical mistakes. They 499 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: were talking about it in the locker room yesterday. We 500 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: were there. Time now for around the locker room, presented 501 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: by units Upstate New York Transplant Services, Save Lives Joined 502 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: team units, donate blood, Visit Units dot org around the 503 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: locker room. Head coach Sean McDermott is assessment of the 504 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: loss in Houston. Look, it wasn't good enough today to win. 505 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: I thought there were some good moments. We battled back 506 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: in a tough environment, and I give the guys credit 507 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: for doing that. But it came down a communication and 508 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: and respect for the football and then and then pre 509 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: snap penalties. You can't can't hurt yourself with pre snap 510 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: penalties like the day today. Quarterback Nathan Peterman, I'm the 511 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: highs and loads of his time at quarterback. Yeah, it's tough. 512 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean, um, put everything having in the winning the game, 513 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: you know. Um yeah, it hurts for for my teammates. 514 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: You know, um everybody out there for sixty minutes, you 515 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: don't given it all. They had tried to come in 516 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: here and help us win, and you know, I didn't 517 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: do it today. So I'm gonna learn from it and 518 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: then take your day by day. Wide receivers A Jones 519 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: and Nathan Peterman's performance, I'm proud of Nate. It's hard 520 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: to be a backup quarterback. It's hard to play quarterback 521 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: in this league. So for him to come in and 522 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: do the best that he could. Um, he didn't want 523 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: to start one interception, obviously, So I mean, I'm proud 524 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: of him. The way he battled, the way he got 525 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: the offense ready to try to finish the game. It 526 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: just wasn't enough as a as a as a group. 527 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: What do you say to a guy? These things just 528 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: keep happening to him every time you gets in the game. 529 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: Nate's resilient. Um Me, personally, I'm not worried about Nate, 530 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: and I know the way that he prepares and the 531 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: way that he goes about his business. So I'm proud 532 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: of that guy. I know a lot's been thrown at him. 533 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: I know a lot of negativity is talked about him. 534 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: But that guy's a fighter. He's a warrior, and he 535 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: inspires me personally to go hard every day. Safety Jordan Poyer. 536 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: It was a difficult loss to the Texas. That's probably 537 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: one of my top three most hurt losses I've had. Um, 538 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: you know, he fights so hard, you know, throughout a 539 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: game you have a solid goal line stand. That was 540 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: a tough loss, man, But coach said it then the 541 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: game man either even losey learn and we definitely gotta 542 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: definitely got to move forward from this and learn from 543 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: from the mistakes that we made and critical moments, and uh, 544 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think we'll be found moving forward. Head 545 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: coach char McDermott on the play of the Buffalo defense. So, 546 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: I thought overall, defensively, they did some good things. We 547 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: did some good things and and um, I think we 548 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: stacked him seven times and and other than the last drive, 549 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, Um, they think struggled to have some offense there, 550 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: and it's a good offense, you know, coach and Brian 551 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: does a good job. Get him credit. Um, But overall, 552 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: I thought we did some good things defensefully, we just 553 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: needed to communicate a little bit better in critical moments 554 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: of the game. Safety Micah High and ray Ray McCloud 555 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: struggles in the return game. Everybody in this locker room 556 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: has faith in Ray Ray and what he can do 557 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: in our part return game. Um. You know I just 558 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: talked to him and you know his confidence isn't shot 559 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: nothing like that. UM. I can remember sometimes my rookie year, 560 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: we guys he had to have talked to me and UM, 561 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, keep my head in it because it's it's 562 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: hard advanced to us. Uh, it's not an easy position. Um, 563 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: that's probably one of the hardest positions on the football field, 564 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: just because of you know, how much responsibility on one 565 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 1: play that you you know, you have to catch the ball, um, 566 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: and so you know they put you back for a reason. 567 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: You gotta do it, and so, uh, you know, back 568 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: you go around the locker room. Presented by units up 569 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: State New York Transplant Services. Hey, we got to help 570 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: get your help to name a Blue Rock Energy Player 571 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: of the Week. Obviously it's going to be a player 572 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Defense. But your voice counts. You can 573 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: vote for the Bills Player of the Week. It's powered 574 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: by Blue Rock Energy, the official electricity supplier the Buffalo Bills. 575 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: Voting is open. We'll announce the winner here in the 576 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: show tomorrow. Go to Blue Rock Energy dot com, potw 577 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: or Blue Rock Energy's Facebook page to learn more the 578 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: nominees for the Blue Rock Energy Player of the Week. 579 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: Bills defensive tackle Kyle Williams, Bills safety Jordan Poyer, linebacker 580 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander, defensive Jerry use Good nominees. Go to Blue 581 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: Rock Energy dot com, slash potw or Blue Rock Energy's 582 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: Facebook page and vote for the Blue Rock Energy Player 583 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: of the game. Talking Quarterbacks, when we return with the quarterback, 584 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback Dan Orlovski will join us. Played twelve 585 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: years in the league now and the NFL analyst on ESPN, 586 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: Dan Aloski. We'll talk to us about Josh Allen and 587 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: more when we return. One Bills Live presented from One 588 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back John Murphy, 589 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, One Bills Live from One Mills Drive and 590 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: joining us on the subway, Fresh Tank High line right now, 591 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: a long time veteran quarterback in the NFL. A dozen 592 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: years as an NFL quarterback currently ESPN NFL analysts happy 593 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: to have Dan Orlovski in line with us, Dan, John 594 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker up here in Buffalo, Thanks for 595 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: joining us. It's good to be with you, guys. How 596 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: are you good? Twelve years in the league for you? 597 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: Are you up for maybe thirteen? Do you feel like 598 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: coming up here in suiting? I'm playing quarterback for the Bills. No, no, no, 599 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm not. You know what, you guys have my good 600 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: friend Derek Anderson there now. I have confidence that's going 601 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: to provide some some veteran leadership and mentorship and wisdom. 602 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: So you guys are in good hands. He's a good dude. 603 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: Talk to us a little about what we can expect. 604 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if if, if Josh Allen cannot go in 605 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: the game this Sunday in Indianapolis, how fast could Derek 606 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: Anderson be up and running and run a significant enough 607 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: part of the offense to be effective in a game 608 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: like this coming week? Yeah, I mean he could certainly 609 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: handle some of it. He's been around so much, He's 610 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: learned so many different systems. See, he's had a way 611 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: of taking plays and making them make sense to his 612 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: brain because he's had you know, the same play called 613 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: so many different times, so many different things. So he 614 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: could certainly go in and function in an offense but 615 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: have to be paired down protection wise and whatnot, but 616 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: he would be able to go and certainly operate. Your 617 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: huddle gets you into good play. The official with the football, 618 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what kind of shape he's in, 619 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: or what shape his arm is in or whatnot, but um, 620 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, I if the cases that Josh Allen can't go, 621 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: you could certainly make a strong argument that Derek should 622 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: be the guy to take the ball. And at least 623 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: you there's the situation where, you know, without trying to 624 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: be unfair or rude, Dave and Peterman's kind of showed you, 625 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: showed you what it is. I don't know how many 626 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: people in that locker room and have much confidence in him. Yeah, 627 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: tell us if you would dan about Derek Anderson And 628 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills signed him to play, but 629 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: here we go, he might have to play. What does 630 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: he bring the Bills? Even if he doesn't have to play, 631 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: how would he help Josh Allen, do you think yeah, 632 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: I mean so outside just obviously have been having been 633 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: around and mental you know, really this is a big 634 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: deal for all the little things. It's mostly the stuff 635 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: that happens from Sunday at four o'clock to Sunday at noon. Right, 636 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: So on a Monday, how do you prepare on a Monday? 637 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: What kind of film do you truly watch on a Monday? 638 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: And how do you take care of your body after 639 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: getting beat up on a Sunday and a workout routine 640 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: and getting in at a certain time, And what's the 641 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: process of getting yourself into a winning routine on a 642 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: Monday and then the same thing on a Tuesday, which 643 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: is your day off. What time do you get in? 644 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: What kind of tape do you study? Are you studying 645 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: game paper? Are you studying cut ups? Are you studying 646 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: blitz packages or you know, coverage packages or whatnot? And 647 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: how do you know how do you take care of 648 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: your body on a Tuesday? Do you work out? Do 649 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: you not work out? You get in the tub, you 650 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: do a massage, whatnot? Do all those things that he 651 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: can offer and down on a Wednesday? You know, okay, 652 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: what time we're going to get on a Wednesday, and 653 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: what's our plan for how we're going to study Wednesday 654 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: tape and and what's our plan for practice that you 655 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: know what, Josh, it might be good for you to 656 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: talk to coach to see if you can get some 657 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: third down reps on a Wednesday, because you know, the 658 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: more extra if you can get six extra looks of 659 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: it's the third down package, that's good. Or hey, Josh, 660 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: let's let's get in and study the game plan on 661 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: a Thursday morning. So just those little details that are 662 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: going to allow him to get a winning routine. When 663 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: you're watching the game previously you just played, and talk 664 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: to me about what you saw here. This is this 665 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: is what I can tell you what I saw. And 666 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: then you know, Derek's been around, so he's played in 667 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of different offenses against a bunch of different teams. 668 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: So hey, we're playing this coordinator this week. Hey, to 669 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: play this coordinator, you got to be really aggressive with 670 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: the football. Or hey, this guy loves to come after 671 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: you on third down and these are his four favorite pressures. 672 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: So just a wealth of knowledge of everything you can 673 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: do to prepare yourself. And I love the signing. Not 674 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: only because it's a good friend of mine. But you know, 675 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: we saw the Browns last year take de Sean Keiser 676 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: and ruin him by one playing him too early and 677 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: then two not giving him anybody in his room that 678 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: had had any kind of experience. So I applaud the bills. 679 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: If you're gonna play Josh youn, you better have somebody 680 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: in the room that can give him some some extra 681 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: set of eyes and wisdom into his ears. Yeah, we 682 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you a little bit about Josh Allen. 683 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: You've you've obviously studied some tape on him. I saw 684 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: your Twitter exchange a week or two ago with Kurt 685 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: Warner and all the things that Josh Allen is going 686 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: through and talk. You know, let me ask you, what 687 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: do you see in Josh Allen? And and is there 688 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: any glimmer of hope into a guy who's struggling so 689 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: badly early on in his career. Yeah. So so let 690 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: me say this one basically going exactly how I had expected. 691 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: First of all, he should not be playing. I said 692 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: that when I was on with you guys in the summertime. 693 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: If the kids should not be playing, he's not need 694 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: to play in an NFL game right now, So it's 695 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: a little bit unfair to him. Two, he doesn't have 696 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: a ton of weapons. You know, they're they're they're limited 697 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: with all the weapons that they can go to. What 698 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: have I seen from him, to be honest, I've been 699 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: encouraged by some of the stuff he's done. The Obviously, 700 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: the athleticism is there, the competitiveness is there, the self 701 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: belief is there. He's been more accurate with the football 702 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: than you know, people thought he was gonna be, which 703 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: was overblown to begin with. But the issues that I 704 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: did see income college and studying him coming out of 705 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: the college have kind of shown themselves that doesn't really 706 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: have a great plan at the line of scrimmage. You know, 707 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: you can tell that he's often surprised by what's going on, 708 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: and that's part of the reason why he should not 709 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: be playing. So you're you're taking your kid that's not 710 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: ready and he's forced to play, and then you put 711 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: the version of trying to kind of win games on him. So, 712 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, guys, though you can't get 713 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: a gauge on Josh Allen right now. You have no idea. 714 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: You can't sit here and say then this dude's gonna 715 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: be awesome. You can't sit here and say this kid's 716 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: gonna think One, it's too early, but two for the 717 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: reasons that I said, like, he's not ready, you don't. 718 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: You don't have ton of weapons around him. So it'd 719 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: be different that he was in Kansas City and he'd 720 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: be struggling with the weapons that Patrick Mahomes has. Then 721 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: you'd be going, oh, we got something. But right now, 722 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is you know you you you hear the 723 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: term fish out of water. He is completely swimming right 724 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: now and you can see it on his cape and whatnot. 725 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: So certainly there's hope. You know, You've got a talented 726 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: kid that I've shown some good signs and has a 727 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: great work ethic. Right, So there's hope, But there's a 728 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 1: lot of things that need to get cleaned up. My prayer, 729 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: my prayer, honestly, my hope is that you don't ruin 730 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: him because this is a really tough situation for him 731 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: to be in. Yeah, so how do you how does 732 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: that happen? Dan? How do you ruin a quarterback? Well, 733 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: you put him in and you ask him to be 734 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: somebody he's incapable of being and do things he can't do. 735 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: And so that's what we're seeing with Josh Allen is hey, gopee, 736 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen right now is not his starting quarterback in 737 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: the NFL. He cannot operate against defenses in the NFL. 738 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: So you're asking him, you're putting him out there and 739 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: you go, hey, go operate his offense against defense in 740 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: the NFL. He is not capable of doing that right now, 741 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: not yet. And then you're gonna go ask him to 742 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: be somebody he's not ready to be. So, hey, go 743 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: be the leader of this franchise. Go be the guy 744 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: that truly matters in us winning or losing on Sundays. 745 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: He's not ready to beat that right now. And so 746 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: that's how kids get rooted. And then you know, guys, Steeves, 747 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: you know this, the mental part of this game is 748 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: so profound, so profound, and you're you're putting a guy 749 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: out there and he's having all these failures, right and 750 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: so at some point, you know, there could be this 751 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: little thing called doubt self belt that can start to 752 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: creep in. Maybe I'm not ready for this, Maybe his 753 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: game is too big. Maybe what people say is true, 754 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: and you hope that's not the case, but we see 755 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: it all the time, and so and then you're getting 756 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: him beat up. You know, he's taking he's getting beat 757 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: up every week to story, Josh Allen's getting beat up. 758 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: Josh Allens get beat up. And so you start seeing 759 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: things that aren't there, and you start not trusting what's 760 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: around you, and you start trying to be somebody or 761 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: do things that you shouldn't be trying to do. And 762 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you get this guy that 763 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: you know becomes a shell of himself over time. This 764 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: is something that slowly happens. It's like a crack in 765 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: a rock that explodes. Slowly happens over time, and then 766 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this guy's escaping the pockets too early, 767 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: sowing the ball too early, not seeing defenders because he's 768 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: still concerned with the rush, all those things, and it's 769 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: this culmination and we've seen it. We see it every 770 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: year that more young quarterbacks in the NFL are ruined 771 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: than they are made. And that's my biggest concern with 772 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: josh On. I'm not saying it happening, but you can't 773 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: deny that it's a very real thing. In situations similar 774 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: to this one, so well, he's not alone. There's a 775 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: lot of rookie quarterbacks playing. Sam Darnold seems to be 776 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: having some success with New York Josh Roses now in 777 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: the game, Baker Mayfield is riding a little bit of 778 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: a roller coaster. Talk a little bit about let's let's 779 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: hear what your take is on Sam Darnold. He had 780 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: a nice win yesterday. Yeah, I mean Sam Darnold has played. 781 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: When Sam Darnold was coming out, he had traits that 782 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: and I was outspoken about the straits that you just 783 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: can't coach really good understanding for color and feel, how 784 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: guys were going to run route straight into the patients 785 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: through in the windows, and then then got into the preseason, 786 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: team started to try and put them and he kind 787 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: of was like, well, I got y'all and he so 788 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: he responded with teams flitting him. So he showed me 789 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: complete understanding, complete play at the line of strammings, if 790 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna do this to me, I've got 791 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: an answer. And so we seamed that on our journals. 792 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: Jarnalds for playing six games, that team has scored thirty 793 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: points three times in six games under Jarnals. They scored 794 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: forty twice, and so he's producing. He's got a great 795 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 1: understanding for their offense. The ball gets out, he makes 796 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: he makes three or four throws a game that you go, man, 797 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: there's a handful of guys company get are making that throw, 798 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: and he's he's at least in four or five of 799 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: their games than the best player on the field. He's 800 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: in complete control of anything. But he was more prepared 801 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: coming into the NFL. Baker Mayfield has certainly had some 802 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: highs and some lows right, but NFL accuracy out like 803 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 1: Baker may feel that real NFL ball plays, and he's 804 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: only going to continue to get better. I haven't seen 805 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: a ton of Josh Rusen, but I will say that 806 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: he looks rhythmically like he belongs like when he's in 807 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: the pocket, he understands what's going on. The ball's gotta 808 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: get out. I want to give it to this coverage. 809 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: So all those three guys have really had some good 810 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: moments and has as a Josh Allen, but they seem 811 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: to have a better understanding of what the defense is 812 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: trying to do to them every play and then have 813 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: a much better plan or answer for what's going on 814 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: post down. Yeah, one more quarterback. Do you get a 815 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: quick comment from you about that second year man, Patrick Mahomes, 816 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: who I thought, when toe to toe with Tom Brady 817 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: and the Patriots last night, I was I was encouraged 818 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: by what Mahomes did last night, even in the loss. Listen, 819 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: I love I love the Mahomes going into the game. 820 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: I love him more coming out of the games. I mean, 821 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: you know, obviously a little probably wound up early on 822 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: and makes the poor redsn mistake right before the half. 823 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: But Lee, I mean you talk about a kid that 824 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: comes out in the second half. You know, great quarterback 825 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: stars are on Peyton Manning, Matthew Stafford, even Jarret got 826 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: really good. To great quarterbacks, they have this trait where 827 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: they have zero memories, I mean zero memory. And for 828 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: the Homes, they kind of struggle a little bit in 829 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: the first half. The two picks the bat one of 830 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: the red zone right before hal and come out in 831 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: the second half and act like it never happened. I 832 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: mean he's scrambling around and making throws like the one 833 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: that got picked off. But they're working so just that 834 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: ability to not have a memory of, oh, whether it 835 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: was good or bad. These guys don't have memories. And 836 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: he leaves this team with thirty one points in the 837 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: second half and falls out. He's incredible in the pocket. 838 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: He's hangers out of the pocket. Just a fun, fun 839 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 1: kid to watch, played football and for him to go 840 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: toe to toe and do what he did in the 841 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: second half, responding, man, that was impressive. Yeah, it was 842 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch. Hey, damn, thanks for 843 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: this great insight. Thanks for joining us. I appreciate you, guys. 844 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: Dan Or Larsky, NFL quarterback for twelve years now analyst 845 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: on ESPUN Covering the NFL Steve and I Beck with more. 846 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: One Bill slide from one Bill's drive and this is 847 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Watson takes the snap, gonna throw and 848 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm dirty short looks right now. We surrounded. He is sacked. 849 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: He is brought down back in the thirty one yard 850 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: line and there's a loose ball of the Bills recover. 851 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: As Watson went down, the ball came out and the 852 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: Bills come up with him. The Advanced Alarmed defense and 853 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: play the game. There were several yesterday Advanced Alarmed providing 854 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: Western the Arms homes and businesses with the find us 855 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: in security at Home Theater the preferred alarm at Home 856 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: Theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. You're laughing at my 857 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: voice yesterday. Well, listen, I everybody should know Murph doesn't 858 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: feel bad. But you don't sound bad. You don't sound 859 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: like yourself, that's for sure. And that that you know, 860 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: defensive play of the game that you called yesterday. You 861 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: weren't feeling it yesterday either were you. I didn't feel badly, 862 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: I just sound awful. Yeah. Hey, we're talking about quarterbacks 863 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: and what would you do if Josh Allen is healthy? 864 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: Do you start him this Sunday? Give us a call 865 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty toll free one eight 866 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Dan on the 867 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: line in Pennsylvania. Hi, Dan, go ahead, you're on the air, 868 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: Oh John. Yeah, I'm sensing some certainly some frustration even 869 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: panic in the studio this morning over Josh Allen. Really 870 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't think yeah, I don't. Well, you put him 871 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: on the clock this morning, John, and so you told 872 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: him the clock was ticking, And that sounds like a 873 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: frustrated comment. But the thing is, I don't see it 874 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: that way. I don't think he was terrible yesterday. I mean, 875 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: he was ten of seventeen for eighty five yards. And 876 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: when I look at the completion percentage of with the 877 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: exception of Darnold Baker, Mayfield's completion percentage through his score 878 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: games is fifty five point six. Dan Orlovski was commenting 879 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: on how on this great accuracy, But I don't think 880 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: fifty five point six is very accurate. The other thing 881 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: is Josh Rosen's speeching for Sandy year to eight is 882 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: also fifty five point six. Josh Allen's is fifty four. 883 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 1: So I'm not seeing I'm not seeing what the panic 884 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: is about. And he talked about the coaches setting him 885 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: up for success. But there's one thing that Josh Allen 886 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: doesn't need right now, and that is a bevy of 887 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: offensive penalties that keeps setting him back and plays that 888 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: called back. I mean, that can't be on Josh. Steve 889 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: did point out if he doesn't turn the ball over 890 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: very much, and I agree with that, but I don't sense, 891 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: you know what, We all knew that this was going 892 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: to be a long term project, all right, but here 893 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: we are in week five, Week five, we're already putting 894 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: him on the clock, and I just think that's an overreaction. 895 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: I think he's got to play better. Dan, is that overreaction. 896 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: He's got to play better. And I don't even look 897 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: at numbers, and I don't even I'll be honest with you, Steve, 898 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: you made this agree. I don't care about comparing the 899 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's numbers to Josh Rosen or Sam Darnold or 900 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: anybody else. I'm looking at these games, watching how we 901 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: plays the series. In the third what disturbed me most yesterday, 902 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: third quarter, seven minutes left to play, the Bill started 903 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: their own ten yard line. It was a terrible series. 904 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 1: They had an illegal formation penalty. You're right, that's probably 905 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: not on Josh Allen, but they you know, Josh wouldn't 906 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: even looking down the field in that entire series. He 907 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: was He'd take a snap and shotgun and looked at 908 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: it for a running line, and I thought, that's not it, 909 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: that's not what they're looking for. I'm put him on 910 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: the clock. I mean, get better. I'm not saying bencham now, 911 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: but get better. He's got to get better, and he's 912 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: got to start taking steps forward. I do believe that. 913 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,479 Speaker 1: I believe that I'm not walking away from Josh Allen. 914 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: If he's healthy, I start him this week. If he's healthy, 915 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: I start him next week too. But he's got to 916 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: get better and series like that the second quarter or 917 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: third quarter to seven minutes left in the third quarter. 918 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: You can't play like that. You can't. You cannot play 919 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: the position like that. Yeah, he's got he's got to 920 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: learn to keep his eyes down the field. He's got 921 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: to learn on whatever plays called, where his keys are, 922 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: where he's supposed to look at the defense, look at 923 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: the safety's find him, look at the front. And and 924 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: like you said, he's got to get help from the 925 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: guys around. They can't line up wrong. They can't have 926 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: off sides, they can't jump off sides in full start 927 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: all the time on offense, they can't bring place back 928 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: with holding penalties. They've got to you know, they've got 929 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: to play well around him and their quarter They've got 930 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: a young rookie quarterback. They have to play better and 931 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: because of that, and they can't put him in a 932 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: position where he's gonna fail his teammates. I'm talking about 933 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: And certainly you can you can listen and we get 934 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: this on Twitter all the time, Like they should have 935 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: thrown a short pass here or they should have. The 936 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: play calling was student. Listen. The play calling is thought out. 937 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: They've got a strategy, they know what they're doing. The 938 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: problem is probably that Josh Allen's having trouble keeping up 939 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: with their train of thought and what they're trying to do. 940 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: They call that play and they'll give Josh a couple 941 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: of tidbits of of things to look for on that 942 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: play when they give him the play, and Josh, you's 943 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: got to play better. He's got to take it upon 944 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 1: himself to see the big picture, look over the defense 945 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: and find an open guy. And if you're wasting your 946 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: time talking about bad play calling, whether it's the Bills 947 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: or anybody else, because if a play is not successful, 948 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: of course you're gonna call him a different play. It 949 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: comes down to the players have got to execute it, 950 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: and that goes down. You can even the bad things 951 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: that happened to the Bills yesterday come down to the 952 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: players executing. Whatever punt return was called doesn't anything to 953 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: do with that. The fact that Zaza or Ray Ray 954 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: didn't catch the ball, whatever you want to do, doesn't 955 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: have anything to do with somebody who you know, DeMarco 956 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: not covering up the tackle or getting covered up by 957 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: the tight end on a play that went for forty 958 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: two yards and then called back. It was a seventy 959 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: seven yard penalty. By the way, that's crazy. So if 960 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about, you know, Josh Allen getting better, yeah, 961 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: he does have to play better. Yeah, he's gonna get 962 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: better by playing, and you stick him back in. If 963 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's going back in. And I think the 964 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: job one for the coaching staff is what I've been saying. 965 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: You gotta give him something then that he can do 966 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,399 Speaker 1: to be successful with. And you got to make sure 967 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: he knows this is normal. He's gonna get better, and 968 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: show him how to get better, help him study, help 969 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: him get a routine that gets him better every week mentally. 970 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: All right. Steve spent his Sunday in Nashville on the 971 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: sidelines for the Tennessee Titans and the Baltimore Ravens. And 972 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: as usual, you have tights and sounds from these sidelines. 973 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: It's from presented by Bows, the official headphones to the 974 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. I was on the sidelines for the Baltimore 975 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 1: Ravens at the Tennessee Titans, and this is a Ravens 976 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: team that has a very big heritage about having playing 977 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: great defense. Yesterday they set a team record with eleven 978 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: sacks on Marcus Mariota. The team that the Bills beat 979 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: the week before now have gone and lost two straight. 980 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota was under duress all day. Terrell Suggs and 981 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: company were really dominated that game. They shut out the 982 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. And this is a team and Bills fans 983 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 1: look back to Week one when the Baltimore Ravens dominated Buffalo. 984 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: Listen right now, I haven't seen too many teams in 985 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 1: the AFC even I would put Baltimore up there. Certainly 986 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: not in wins and losses, and maybe not in the 987 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: buzz that they're creating. But the Baltimore Ravens are as 988 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,959 Speaker 1: tough a team to beat as the Kansas City Chiefs 989 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: and the Patriots. Right now, the Baltimore Ravens are getting 990 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: it done on both sides of the ball, and Joe 991 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: Flacco is playing as good a football right now as 992 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: anybody who's thrown it in the NFL. Their offense took 993 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: an enormous step forward this year when they got three 994 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: new wide receivers and bolsted their offensive line. He got 995 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: Marshall Yanda back on the field. This is a Baltimore 996 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 1: Ravens team that as good as they looked against the 997 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: Bills on Week one, they are that good. They are 998 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: really good this year and they're gonna be a team 999 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: to be reckoned with at the end of the year. 1000 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: That's my sideline Sounds presented by Bose, the official headphones 1001 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Murph, the Ravens are for real. 1002 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 1: I acknowledge that. One of the things I read about, 1003 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: and you might have speak to this on that game, 1004 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: that the Ravens were upset. Dean Peas was their defensive 1005 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: coordinator retired. He was sixty eight years old, retired at 1006 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: the end of last season, and a month later signs 1007 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: on to be the defensive coordinator of Tennessee Titans. And 1008 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: many of the Ravens defensive players who were upset about 1009 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: that and took that out that game yesterday a little bit. 1010 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I spoke to John Harball about 1011 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: it in the in our production meeting leading up to it, 1012 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: and he did it. They did acknowledge it, but Dean 1013 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: was going to retire and stuff. Dean Pease has a 1014 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: son who was in coaching wants to get into it, 1015 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: and Ravens have a policy in place they will not 1016 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: allow coaches on their staff to bring kids on their 1017 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: sons on staff. You know a lot of coaches do that. 1018 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: It's very commonplace. Bill Belichick's done it. Greg Williams has 1019 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: done it, Wade Phillips has done it, and you down 1020 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: the list, Andy Reid the run. You know, all these 1021 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 1: guys have done it. It's it's a very commonplace for 1022 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: coaches to do that. Mike Shanahan brought Kyle Shannon, That's 1023 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: how he got his start. So he goes It's a 1024 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: long list of coaches who did it. The Baltimore Ravens 1025 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: have a policy against that. And uh Dean Pas was 1026 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna do that, was gonna retire. He wanted to have 1027 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: his son come on. They had a policy against it. 1028 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: He retired, No big deal. And then Mike Rabel called 1029 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: him up and said, hey, and we'll we want you 1030 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 1: to be We'll let you bring your son too. So 1031 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: he said, all right, I'll do it. And for that reason, 1032 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, Aussie knew some of those guys that Baltimore 1033 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 1: Ravens said Hey, I understand, go ahead and do it. 1034 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: And they're they're a stand up group of guys. They 1035 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: loved Dean Pas to death. He was a great defensive 1036 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: coordinator for him. But he's sixty eight years old and 1037 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: they know, you know, he's not gonna do that for 1038 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: another ten years. So when push came to shove, and 1039 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: particularly after yesterday, they're all good with it. Ravens as 1040 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: good as the Patriots and the Chiefs. That'd give both 1041 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 1: those teams a game. Now I'm saying, I'm not saying 1042 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be come out of there on a 1043 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 1: three and a three team tournament and beat the Raider, 1044 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,399 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and the and the Patriots. But I'll tell 1045 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 1: you what, um, if they have to play those games 1046 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, that's a team that's tough to beat. Joe Flacco, 1047 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 1: I've always thought he slings that he's healthy this year. 1048 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: His offensive line is playing better and protecting him better, 1049 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: and those wide receivers give him options. All right, Steve, 1050 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: and I'm back with more. Chris Brown's gonna join us 1051 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: when we return. Bill's Insider from Buffalo bills dot Com. 1052 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: More discussion of the Bills with Brownie. More discussion of 1053 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback question where are you going? Where do you 1054 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: go next? Depending on who's healthy. We got him two 1055 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: hours ago. Come on back One Bill's Live presented by 1056 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo 1057 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Falo Bills Radio Network. Sports update update from 1058 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. Head coach Charmdurmay addresses the media later 1059 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: today about four o'clock this afternoon news conference from for 1060 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: the head coach. He may let us know then, may 1061 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: let us know a little bit more about the elbow 1062 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: injury suffered by key quarterback Josh Allen in the third 1063 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: quarter of yesterday's twenty to thirteen loss to the Houston Texans. 1064 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman finished the game. Peterman did not go well 1065 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: and the Bills may have to turn to Derek Anderson 1066 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 1: to play some quarterback for him. Josh Allen's injury update 1067 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,800 Speaker 1: maybe coming later today when McDermott meets with the media. 1068 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: Bills getting set for another road game that's coming Sunday. 1069 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: They play at Indianapolis forty three to forty the final 1070 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: Last night, the paperings over the Chiefs in an outstanding 1071 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: Sunday night football game. Kansas City had a chance to 1072 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: knock down Tom Brady down near the gold mine late 1073 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: in the game fourth quarter, and the man who was there, 1074 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: the Kansas City defender Speaks Brandon Speaks, said he thought 1075 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: the ball was gone. He said, he's not going to 1076 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: take him to the ground because of the new rules. 1077 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: Brady stood up ran from four yards out into the 1078 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: end zone for the new England touchdown that was decisive 1079 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: in their victory over Kansas City. Dolphins quarterback Ryan Tannehill 1080 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: late scratch yesterday came as a surprise that Miami coach 1081 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: Adam Gates was in no mood to discuss it after 1082 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: the game. His shoulder was termed sore showing up in 1083 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: a pregame workout to be cleared, so Adam Gaye said, 1084 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: asked Gays about ask Tanitle about why he did not play. 1085 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: Dolphins wound up winning in overtime yesterday against the Bears. 1086 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: The Ravens celebrated one of the biggest sack parties in 1087 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 1: NFL history yesterday at twenty one did nothing victory over 1088 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: Tennessee sack and Marcus Mariota eleven times in that game, 1089 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: which set a franchise record. Sabers out west, they started 1090 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: their five game road trip with the three to win 1091 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: over Arizona. On Saturday, Rasmus Dialen with his first NHL goal. 1092 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: Buffalo back out of tomorrow night when they played the 1093 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: biggest Golden Nights in Las Vegas faceoff ten o'clock tomorrow night. 1094 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 1: And Major League Baseball the National League Championship Series Game 1095 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: three tonight, the Dodgers play at Los Angeles. That series 1096 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: tied at one win apiece, Game three coming up tonight. 1097 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bills Drive. John Murphy Steve 1098 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: Tasker joined by Chris Brown, Bills insider Buffalo Bills dot Com. 1099 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm good, afternoon, Brownie. How are you. I'm doing okay, okay, Yeah, 1100 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm all right, hanging in, hanging in. Tough loss, tough loss. 1101 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: We know how to hand him. Yeah, we've been talking 1102 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 1: about it free obviously. I didn't know if you've realized 1103 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: we talk on radio, but his talk. Yeah, I thought 1104 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: for me from a distance because I wasn't there in 1105 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: the game, and I did watch that. I watched the 1106 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,399 Speaker 1: broadcast later on last night. It was kind of encouraging loss, 1107 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: because that's a game you should have won. Playing as 1108 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: bad as you did offensively and then as bad as 1109 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: you did on special teams too. Your defense did enough 1110 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: for you to win that game. You actually scored some point. 1111 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: How are you encouraged by that? The defense did enough 1112 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: to win and everything else fell apart. Where's the encouraging part? 1113 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: Because I know that that I know that you can. 1114 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna catch punts and you're not gonna get punts blocked. 1115 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: And your and penalties are easily fixable, particularly formation penalties 1116 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 1: and false starts. All that stuff's easy. It's getting the 1117 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: reading a defense and throwing the football is hard. Yeah, 1118 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: And I think they're going to get better at doing 1119 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: that as well. This defense has gotten better. I mean 1120 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: you talk about it that it's gotten better from halfway 1121 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: through the Charger game till now. I mean it's gotten 1122 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,320 Speaker 1: significantly better, and it got healthier this last week. This 1123 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: is a team that, uh, I mean, you look down 1124 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: the road now, you're you're facing an offense in Indianapolis 1125 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: that is twenty fourth, twenty fourth in the league. Indie's 1126 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 1: got the seventeenth ranked offense in football, their thirteenth in 1127 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: point scored seventeenth, that's right, and thirteenth in points scored. 1128 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 1: Bills are last in points scored. Oh I knew that 1129 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 1: I knew that Houston was eleventh ranked offense and they'd 1130 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: scored fewer points than than than Indianapolis. I just think 1131 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: this both and we thought this going in as well. 1132 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: Both those games would be winnable, and certainly that Houston game, 1133 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: is as difficult as it is to take, was really 1134 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: a winnable game. Andrew Luck's really good at reading defenses. 1135 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: They're they're first in the league and third down conversion. 1136 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: I bet hed better be pretty good at it because 1137 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: he's playing the number three ranked defense in the league, 1138 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 1: and he's playing by himself. And he's playing by himself, 1139 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 1: so he's a lot of injured players and yeah, and 1140 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: he's been injured and he's taking some shots. Um listen, 1141 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 1: I'll put my defense up against that offense, right, I mean, 1142 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: I worry about the other two phases, Steve, That's my issue. 1143 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 1: I love this defense. I love the beat the kicker, 1144 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: I like I like the Bills kicker. If it wasn't 1145 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: for Steven Haushka, you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm Steve. 1146 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: How do you? How are you off sides on a kickoff? 1147 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,879 Speaker 1: With the new rules that don't allow you to even 1148 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: run up to the line, like back in the old days. 1149 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: Just step over the line on the kick. How does 1150 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 1: that happen? Is not? They don't call it off side. 1151 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: They call it off side? How does that happen? Problem 1152 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: is the guys can't see the kick coming, so they 1153 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: trying to get as much of a break as they can't. 1154 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 1: So they try and time it and it doesn't time up. 1155 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 1: But you're not even moving anymore. One guy in Baltimore 1156 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 1: this last week got called because he wasn't a lined right. 1157 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: It was an illegal formation on kickoff because his fun 1158 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: wasn't on the line. He got illegal formations too. We 1159 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 1: have those all too. I'll see your I'll see your 1160 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: offsides on a kickoff, legal formation. That's I mean. We 1161 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 1: try to focus this a little bit. Steve says he's 1162 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,359 Speaker 1: encouraged by the Bill's performance. Hips Are you encouraged, Chris? 1163 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,879 Speaker 1: Were you encouraged? Uh? It's hard to be. Yeah, you can't. 1164 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,839 Speaker 1: You can't win with eighty yards passing they should have, right, 1165 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: but they should have won with eighty yards passed and 1166 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: they had one and to win was forty thirty nine 1167 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 1: yards in one play. You shouldn't have to win with 1168 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: They should have won with thirty with what what's eighty 1169 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: what's what's how many yards they have passing? Uh, one 1170 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: hundred and something? They should have won with thirty nine 1171 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 1: yards less than that. You shouldn't have to win like that. 1172 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: And because of come on, offenses finish. The offense is 1173 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: so ineffective that they are forced to put the defenses 1174 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 1: back to the wall like that on a regular basis, 1175 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: and there cannot be any miscus at all on special teams. 1176 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: There were a couple of major miscuse yesterday. It's one 1177 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: in spite of those two, I know, but they did 1178 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: not win. It's not encouraging to me. Oh, come on, 1179 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot. There's a lot in that defense that 1180 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: gives you a chance, must make you feel good. I mean, 1181 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: that defense is playing the defense. You know, they're behind 1182 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: Baltimore and Jacksonville in the defenses in this league. Baltimore 1183 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: and jackson And that's great. And think about it. We 1184 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: love everything about played our offense. Baltimore played our offense. 1185 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: See if we can't play the paper shooting game here 1186 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: though we can't do that. We've got one phase of 1187 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: this team that is operating at peak efficiency, you know, 1188 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: while we've got the other two that are struggling right now. 1189 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,919 Speaker 1: Tell me how many games in this league as tight 1190 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: as it is, that you're gonna win when one phase 1191 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: is working at optimum efficiency and the other two are 1192 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: are struggling to be functional. You want nine? Last year? 1193 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: Offense is better? Last was better? Last year it was 1194 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't know it was. I don't know. Were they 1195 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: sixth and running last year? Six rushing? At sixth and rushing? 1196 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: Offense is better last year, brownie. Let's get you in 1197 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 1: on our Twitter poll. If Josh Allen is healthy, who 1198 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: did the Bill start at quarterback this Sunday? What do 1199 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: you think if he's healthy? Who? I didn't think about that? Um, 1200 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: wait a minute, why not? You don't eat well? No, 1201 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: I was. Maybe it's because I kind of want him 1202 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: to get a different perspective for a week, you know, 1203 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: just maybe watch. Maybe I've answered the question whether he's 1204 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: healthy or not. Well, who's who you think is gonna play? 1205 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: You can't play Peter Man. Okay, I don't think he can. 1206 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: If you're a player on that roster, and you you've 1207 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: been around Nate and believe me, the kids the ultimate professional. 1208 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: He does everything the right way. He prepares properly, there's just, 1209 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: for some reason, there's a disconnect between practice and the 1210 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: game field, and there's even a disconnect between He even 1211 00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: performs well in preseason games, but it just doesn't translate 1212 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: on a consistent enough basis where I don't know how 1213 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 1: you can go back to him. I mean, he's got 1214 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: nine interceptions on seventy nine career pass attempts. It's an 1215 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: interception percentage of over eleven percent. That's that's about quadruple 1216 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: what the league averages. It's just not a you can't 1217 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: honestly say, as a coach, we're going back to Nate 1218 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: because he gives us the best chance to win here. 1219 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 1: Of course, so I don't think he's an option here 1220 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: in this equations. So now you're down to Derek Anderson 1221 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,919 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen. If you feel like we're assuming Josh 1222 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: is healthy enough to play in this scenario here, okay, 1223 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: I think you have to turn to Derek, provided there 1224 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: is enough of the offensive playbook that he has mastered 1225 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: where you can put together a scaled down game plan 1226 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: for him to execute for you on Sunday. I think 1227 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: you have to turn to that right now. I think 1228 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Josh needs to get a ferent perspective of the game 1229 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: from the sidelines, listening with the earpiece to how Derek 1230 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 1: is interacting with the coaching staff, how he's executing plays, 1231 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: and gain some knowledge from that. And maybe after a 1232 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: game or two with Derek in there, you know, as 1233 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: long as Josh is making the right strides in practice, 1234 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: maybe you go back to him so he can get 1235 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: the experience. Yeah, I would know, And I understand what 1236 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: you're saying. Yeah, I mean, I just think he needs 1237 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 1: a different perspective, even even if it's just for a 1238 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 1: game or to get whatever you feel is the right 1239 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: amount of time. I just think I'm worried he's he's 1240 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: getting to a point where there's diminishing returns here by 1241 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: him playing. That's my concern. Diminishing returns. Yeah, I mean, 1242 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: he's not gonna play much better. He's not gonna play 1243 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 1: any better standing on the sidelines. But I don't know 1244 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 1: if he's Yesterday, there were stretches of that game game 1245 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 1: where I was I found myself asking myself, is he 1246 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: is he getting better by playing right now? With what 1247 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm seeing on the field? All right, So then here's 1248 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 1: the problem. And I don't and look, I don't have 1249 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 1: the train die to know definitively yes or no. I'm 1250 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: not going to pretend to The coach is certainly no 1251 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: better than I do. I get you, But here's the 1252 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: here's the road you're going down. How do you you know, 1253 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: get your great defense too, and all the guys that 1254 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: are playing around him or whoever this quarterback is, say, okay, 1255 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 1: this week, and we're gonna give Derek Anderson the ball, 1256 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 1: and you come out and you play well one and 1257 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: and if you keep winning, you know, obviously he's got 1258 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 1: to stay in the game. Yep, Okay, Well I don't know. 1259 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Josh I was gonna sit the bench the 1260 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: rest of the year. Well, I don't know about the 1261 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 1: rest of the year. Well, then what are you gonna 1262 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: do if he comes out and he has like one 1263 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: bad throw after going five and one in these six games, 1264 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: next six games. I'm not saying it's easy. This is 1265 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: a tough decision. It's a tough decision. Well, yeah, it's 1266 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: but you're yeah, I just think the consequences of benching him. 1267 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you're he's gonna get any 1268 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 1: better sitting on the bench. And we knew this going in. 1269 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's your big sixty four dollars questions to say, 1270 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: you go to Josh Allen early in the season. I'm 1271 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: not saying benching for the year, but well, how do 1272 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: you get him back on the field? And you say, 1273 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna We're gonna not give ourselves 1274 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 1: the best chance to develop our quarterback for the feud. 1275 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: You're doing that now? Anyway he's better than Nate Peterman. 1276 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but now Derek's here, So what are you doing? 1277 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Well trying to get Nate. We'll try and find somebody 1278 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 1: who can win. Now, if if Derek, if you can't 1279 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: have it both ways, you know that's right, give yourselves 1280 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: a chance to win. If Derek Anderson is not the 1281 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 1: best chance to win, and how do you know if 1282 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 1: he is or not? You have nobody. That's a difficult 1283 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,919 Speaker 1: decision to make because you're you're really at a cross 1284 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 1: roads here. I mean, the best way to learn, you know, 1285 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 1: I'll agree with you is usually to play. But I 1286 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: think there gets to there comes a point in time 1287 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: because I think we can all agree that that Josh 1288 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: at quarterback is not the only thing that's lacking in 1289 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 1: production on offense. I think we can all agree on 1290 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,800 Speaker 1: that it goes much deeper than quarterback. Yeah, that's fine, 1291 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 1: that's all fine and dandy, But if you bench him, 1292 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 1: you're already given him the idea that you're he's not 1293 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 1: gonna make it. He's not getting better. No, he's not 1294 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: doing well. I think there are ways to go about 1295 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 1: that where you can say, look, Josh, you got banged 1296 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: up last week. Let's just take a breath. Let's take 1297 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,919 Speaker 1: a breath this week. Breath. I want you to watch 1298 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: Derek see how he plays. That says the same thing. 1299 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: You're stinking it up. So we're gonna bench you. So 1300 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 1: now what's he do? He's gonna sit over there and 1301 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 1: watch and he's there's no easy answers, Steve, But you 1302 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 1: got an offense that has to be better. What are 1303 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: you saying to the rest of your football team when 1304 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: eighty yards passing? Except see, I disagree with both of you. 1305 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: I watched that game yesterday and I watched the broadcast, 1306 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: so I wasn't in there. That offense doesn't have to 1307 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 1: be much better. Come on, Steve, it can be, no question, 1308 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: but it doesn't have to be. It can be, it 1309 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 1: should be, it should be. It doesn't have to be. 1310 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: They should have a game without it. They should have. 1311 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: They could have knelt down in the last ten minutes 1312 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 1: that game given themselves. As long as they don't throw 1313 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,280 Speaker 1: that pick six, you're not gonna win games throwing eighty 1314 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: yards a game. We said it last year with Tyrod. 1315 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you guys are over reaction 1316 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 1: to the to the badness of the offense. It's bad. 1317 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: I know it's bad. I watched they're they're averaging less guys. 1318 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 1: They should have won the game. In spite of that. 1319 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 1: They should have won that game. When you play that way, 1320 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 1: it's no surprise that you don't win that With that 1321 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: game absolute offense, it's an absolutely position to win. They 1322 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 1: did not. No one could be surprised when you look 1323 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 1: at their offensive production in the way they played offense, 1324 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: that's what you get. But putten, how different would it be? 1325 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 1: How different would it be if they wouldn't have muff 1326 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: that punt they ended up they wouldn't end up winning 1327 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 1: that game, which would have been what was a nine 1328 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: to six. The offensive would have been a problem, big problem. Yeah, 1329 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: And how many games, Steve are you're winning nine to 1330 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 1: six in this league? That's how many games. They won 1331 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 1: a ton of them last year like that, not nine 1332 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: to six, getting turnovers and having an offense that through 1333 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 1: for less than two hundred yards. But also ran a 1334 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 1: football DJ and Hamburg on the line with the Hello DJ, 1335 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: DJ gone, let's go to Steve and Rochester. Hello Steve, 1336 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: you're on the air with this guys. I got two 1337 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 1: questions for your first off. I'm curious you guys have 1338 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 1: any insight on what happened to Robert Foster. Seemed like 1339 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 1: he was on the field a lot the first week 1340 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 1: or two, maybe even three, and haven't seen him since. Yeah, 1341 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 1: he had two snaps yesterday. By that by the account 1342 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 1: that I got, I saw he had two snaps. Ray 1343 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 1: Ray McLeod had played in like twenty one percent of 1344 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 1: the snaps the law. The guy who was out there 1345 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: the most was Zay Jones. Yeah, I played the whole game, 1346 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 1: and then also Kelvin Benjamin played most of that too. 1347 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 1: But it looks as though uh Andre Holmes is getting 1348 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 1: more snaps than Robert Foster, probably because they depend on it. 1349 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: He's more dependable, knows what he's doing better, and they 1350 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 1: trust him more. He's getting some targets too, so I 1351 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: think Andre Holmes has emerged and evolved into a guy 1352 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 1: they like better. That's all. He's probably out playing Foster 1353 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: in practice. That's about his way. That's as as far 1354 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 1: as it goes. I agree with that. But I think 1355 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: Holmes is um similar to Benjamin in a way. And 1356 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 1: I think the lack of speed and a deep threat 1357 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 1: is absolutely killing us. A stretching the field it is. 1358 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 1: It is allowing defenses to crouch down and squat on 1359 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 1: routes and things like that because there's no field stretching 1360 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 1: threat right now. Well I don't know that. Yeah, that all, 1361 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 1: I get it. But it's putting Robert Foster out there 1362 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: to run a meaningless nine route unless you can complete 1363 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 1: the thing is not going to help you that much. 1364 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 1: Because you can send a guy as long as he 1365 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 1: can get through the defense and they got to cover him. 1366 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna cover whoever's out there. You need a guy 1367 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: that's out there that you know can catch the football 1368 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 1: is going to be in the right spot. And I 1369 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 1: think it Fosters not on the field. That's got to 1370 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: be the reason. I don't think they trust that he 1371 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 1: knows right where he's gonna be. And Andre Holmes, it 1372 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 1: is going to be there now. Yeah, the athletic ability, 1373 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: the speed isn't there. But the trade off is one 1374 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 1: I think you gotta make. If you're trying to run 1375 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,480 Speaker 1: an offense and give a young quarterback up a target, 1376 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 1: he's got to know. Everybody else has got to be 1377 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 1: in the right spot, whether they can get there in 1378 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: a four or three speed or not. Thanks for Carlin. 1379 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to Christian in Hamburg. Hello, Christian, welcome, you're 1380 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: on the show with us. Hey, guys, all right, still 1381 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 1: understand I just don't understand the commitment to Petermann one 1382 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:48,720 Speaker 1: of the what are people are gonna start getting mad 1383 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 1: within the Bills organization? And here is a Jones say, 1384 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: supporter of things about him. What does this guy do 1385 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: beyind closed doors that we don't see. I mean, he 1386 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 1: seems to have to know people and the emperor has 1387 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 1: no clothes. I don't understand it. Well, Christian, here's the thing. 1388 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,040 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Christian. Here's the thing. Christian. He does 1389 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: everything right until he gets on the field. That's the 1390 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. He has done. He has done 1391 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 1: everything right, uh, on and off the off the field. Uh, 1392 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 1: through the preseason, through the OTAs, through the meeting times, 1393 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 1: through practices, through everything. He does absolutely everything right. And 1394 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 1: uh is a great teammate. He's a great asset to 1395 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 1: the team, a great pro. He works hard at it, 1396 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,799 Speaker 1: it's important to him. But when he gets on the field, 1397 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: he stinks. And he has done it and it's it's 1398 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,560 Speaker 1: been his the way it has gone for him. So 1399 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: he's there because he earns his way onto the field, 1400 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 1: but once he gets there, he cannot do anything to 1401 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 1: stay there. He does, he has done nothing to stay 1402 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 1: on the field as the start of the building. And 1403 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 1: let's face he earned it. He had you know, he 1404 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 1: had a J. McCarron, he had number one draft pick 1405 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: in there and you had him and he came out 1406 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 1: on top of that competition. But I'm telling you there's 1407 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 1: just you can't deny that when he gets out there 1408 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 1: on the field, it does not translate. And I think 1409 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: Christian to your point, Yeah, I think they're beginning to 1410 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 1: see the fact that he doesn't have any clothes on. 1411 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 1: The Emperor has no clothes. Christian, would you rather his 1412 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 1: teammates rip them post game in the media publicly? No, 1413 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 1: I think it's no. I think they're being fair, But 1414 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 1: I think what should have happened is they should have 1415 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,800 Speaker 1: cut him after week one or we're two and if 1416 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 1: people keep saying we knew all along Allen was a project, 1417 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 1: then they should have signed a veteran quarterback in the beginning. Well, Listen, 1418 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: they were calling Derek Anderson in the spring. They were 1419 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 1: so he wasn't ready, and he's at on a list 1420 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,680 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, so they were trying to find a guy. 1421 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 1: They went out and got a J. McCarron before they 1422 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 1: could find Because here's the thing, veteran quarterbacks they got 1423 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: to know they're gonna come in and be a backup 1424 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 1: or a mentor to whoever the Bills were going to draft. 1425 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,760 Speaker 1: If they the guys they called before the draft, I 1426 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 1: don't know if McCarron came in with that right. If 1427 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: McCarron wanted to play, McCarron was sitting behind Andy Dalton 1428 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati. He wanted to play, and that's why the 1429 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 1: Bills trade at him. He wanted to He did not 1430 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 1: want to sit here and be a mentor like that, 1431 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 1: and that's why he's not here. So you have to 1432 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 1: find somebody who will say yes under those conditions. Because 1433 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys out there are at a 1434 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: point in their career like I'm going to come in 1435 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 1: and I want to play. I don't want to come 1436 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,719 Speaker 1: in and be, you know, a babysitter or a stop 1437 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 1: gap or a bridge quarterback. I wanted the chance to 1438 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 1: earn the job. They offered Aj a chance to earn 1439 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 1: the job. He couldn't do it, and now he's backing 1440 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: up in Oakland. So it they did make every effort 1441 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 1: to sign a veteran quarterback. I'll tell you what really 1442 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 1: worries me is that we talked last week about being 1443 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 1: able to recruit players to the Bills going forward with 1444 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 1: a four quarterback situation. What about recording recruiting defensive players. 1445 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 1: I think the defense and us to just be out 1446 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 1: of their mind and playing so well and I haven't 1447 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 1: any support whatsoever. How do you bring people to the 1448 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 1: Bills defense going forward when they have such a horrible oftime? 1449 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 1: Money talks, Yeah, money talk. They'll want to be They 1450 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: know that they're going to get a chance to be 1451 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 1: on a really good defense and that that will that'll 1452 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: make them money. So yeah, that won't that that won't 1453 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 1: be an issue. They'll look defensive players, free agents will 1454 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: love to come and play on this defense. That's a 1455 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 1: that's a plus. Uh. And you know what else some 1456 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,240 Speaker 1: other teams might do is they might come in as 1457 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 1: wide receivers might want to come in and play on 1458 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: this team. And it sounds crazy, but no, and they're 1459 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 1: gonna have a shot to win, and they're gonna that 1460 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to step on the field. There's 1461 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 1: not gonna be too much competition for starting jobs. You know, 1462 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 1: free agent free agent wide receivers may take a second 1463 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: look at Buffalo as well, because they're gonna know there's 1464 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 1: gonna be some spots on offense that are they're gonna 1465 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 1: need to be filled. Chris sticking around for a little bit, right, 1466 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 1: I am Chris Brown. Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills dot 1467 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 1: Com joint rejoined us in a moment. Come on back, 1468 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,639 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill Driving. This is Buffalo 1469 01:11:45,720 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Snap. Peter Man looks to throw him, stands 1470 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 1: in the pocket, fires into the end zone. Got a 1471 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 1: man open, fires that way, it is caught. The Bills 1472 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: take the lead on a fifteen yard touchdown path from 1473 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman to Zay Jones. That touchdown came from a 1474 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: Hunt real Estate Red Zone. Visit Hunt real Estate dot 1475 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 1: com to score on all of your real estate needs. 1476 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steven Tasker, Chris Brown Bills inside of Buffalo 1477 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,760 Speaker 1: bills dot Com talking about yesterday's game, talking about the 1478 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 1: quarterback dilemma. The Bill's face right now. That's our twitter 1479 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 1: pole question. It's not really a pole. If Josh Allen 1480 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 1: is healthy, who did the Bills starting quarterback this Sunday? 1481 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,479 Speaker 1: What's it saying the tweet sheet there? Stay Yeah, we 1482 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 1: get from Tiffany Daniels, one of our regular sadly twitters. Yeah, 1483 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 1: sadly you have to move on from Nate. He just 1484 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,760 Speaker 1: can't get it done on Sunday. If Josh is healthy, 1485 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 1: you gotta stick with him. If you bench him, you 1486 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 1: could possibly damage his confidence moving forward. The team's in 1487 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,720 Speaker 1: a tough spot at quarterback, and Anderson is not the 1488 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 1: answer either. Yeah, she's right. The team isn't a tough spot. 1489 01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. Josh is nicked up, he 1490 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:05,920 Speaker 1: hasn't played well. Um, this game would probably have to 1491 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,599 Speaker 1: be considered all step back. Don't you think, oh yeah, 1492 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,679 Speaker 1: do you think he played Do you think he played 1493 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 1: worse yesterday than he did against the Titans. Yes, okay, 1494 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 1: all right, how about all right? So all right, let's 1495 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: get it from Eric dash Alan without a doubt, let 1496 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,600 Speaker 1: him work through his struggles or allow the Bills to 1497 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 1: move on from him, soother sooner than later. I see. Yeah, 1498 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 1: we're way way long way away from even thinking about 1499 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,280 Speaker 1: doing something like than Josh Allen. Uh. And then from 1500 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:41,559 Speaker 1: Michael Myers, which is this Halloween Halloween character? Right, Derek 1501 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 1: Anderson should play regardless of the Derek anders should play 1502 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: regardless the rest of the season until at least December. 1503 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: Alan needs to get the basic fundamentals correct before stepping 1504 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 1: back on the field. Footwork, accuracy, reads, This should all 1505 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 1: be worked on in practice, not actual games. So they're saying, 1506 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, start from scratch with Josh Allen, that's not it. Well, no, 1507 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's not my concern. My concern is this. 1508 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,120 Speaker 1: My concern is this, and Steve maybe you can speak 1509 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: to this. Uh, when how long does this defense go? 1510 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 1: Let's assume Josh is still in the lineup, he's healthy, 1511 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 1: he keeps playing, you how long before this defense? If 1512 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,600 Speaker 1: the results don't change, starts to get frustrated to the 1513 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 1: point of I mean, what else we got to do 1514 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 1: to try to win games that will listen. I get 1515 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,560 Speaker 1: when does that set in? I get that, And it 1516 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 1: is sad for the for guys on that side feel 1517 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,040 Speaker 1: like you waste waste a year on a great defense 1518 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 1: that that's not going to happen. Because what will happen 1519 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 1: is they'll take great pride in what they're doing and 1520 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 1: they'll continue to do it weekend, week out. They'll be frustrated. Well, yeah, 1521 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,040 Speaker 1: they're frustrated just like everybody's today. I mean, they're bummed 1522 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,800 Speaker 1: that can't get it done today. And then they're saying 1523 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 1: all the right thing. Yeah, and believe me, they're probably 1524 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 1: feeling the right. I mean, this is something there's no 1525 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: question that it's a wasted effort by that defense because 1526 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, the special teams couldn't help. The offensive, couldn't 1527 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,519 Speaker 1: get help, couldn't help. But this, by the same token, 1528 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,840 Speaker 1: the defense probably feels like there's a couple of plays 1529 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 1: they left out on the field. They're not gonna get 1530 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 1: so frustrated where they quit playing. They're gonna get frustrated 1531 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 1: where they might quit being friendly to the offense, you know, 1532 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,720 Speaker 1: but they're gonna they're they're gonna keep playing in fact, 1533 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 1: because they'll take great pride in it, and they'll know 1534 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,479 Speaker 1: that ultimately it'll help all of the defensive players on 1535 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 1: that defense in their careers individually. They're they're not gonna 1536 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,639 Speaker 1: get so frustrated they quit playing. Now. They're gonna get frustrated, 1537 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 1: and the guys in the locker room may hear about it. 1538 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 1: But this locker room, despite the fact that you know 1539 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 1: they're not winning a lot of games or two and four, 1540 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,479 Speaker 1: it's a pretty healthy locker room, pretty healthy atmosphere. And 1541 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't insinuating that they wouldn't keep playing hard. I 1542 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 1: was just concerned that the frustration level would boil over 1543 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 1: because as well as they're playing, they're not getting the 1544 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 1: results that they want. Yeah, well, yeah, I get that, 1545 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 1: but that's not going to change anything about the dynamic 1546 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 1: of the team. I don't think. I think that everybody 1547 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 1: understands that they're going to be even on a on 1548 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,639 Speaker 1: a team that's fifty fifty, there's gonna be some weeks 1549 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 1: where the offense scores forty and some weeks where they 1550 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 1: get shut out, And there's gonna be times when the 1551 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,760 Speaker 1: defense gives up forty and times when they shut their 1552 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,720 Speaker 1: opponent out. So, Um, that's the way it is on 1553 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 1: a football team, Chris Brown, question for you, and I 1554 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: asked Dan or lastly this question last hour people bring up, well, 1555 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 1: you don't want Josh Hallen to play if he's gonna 1556 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,880 Speaker 1: get ruined, if it's gonna ruin him for you know, 1557 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: his entire career. What does it look like when a 1558 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,559 Speaker 1: quarterback gets ruined? Are we seeing that now with Josh's 1559 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 1: I don't know yet, but maybe there's not enough evidence. 1560 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 1: And maybe that's why you do keep playing him, hoping 1561 01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 1: he can pull himself out of it. Uh. Yeah, at 1562 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 1: least in terms of not being productive. Um, I don't 1563 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 1: want to believe that his confidence is shaken in any way, 1564 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 1: shape or form. Only Josh knows that. Um, you know, 1565 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 1: nobody can crawl in his head and know what his 1566 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 1: level of confidence is. I think what I just think 1567 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,719 Speaker 1: we're in a very delicate place right now with his future. 1568 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,800 Speaker 1: And believe me, I'm the first person to say that 1569 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 1: you'll learn quickest by playing. I'm just wondering if there 1570 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: are so many other things on the offensive side of 1571 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 1: the ball that are not right at this time, that 1572 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 1: is playing him going to be wholly beneficial. That's my concern. 1573 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 1: So I guess in the grand scheme of things, it's 1574 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,840 Speaker 1: probably less about what Josh is doing and more about 1575 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 1: the whole thing and what's going on on that side 1576 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,240 Speaker 1: of the ball, and is it beneficial with all of 1577 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 1: those other issues for Josh to keep playing. That's where 1578 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm coming from. I think there's a lot of issues 1579 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 1: in play too, And I think one of the things 1580 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 1: you got to do if you're the coaching staff, it 1581 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 1: is about winning this next game. You got to find 1582 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:54,560 Speaker 1: a way to do it, and you got to do 1583 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,720 Speaker 1: it with the guys in the room. So if that 1584 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 1: means Derek Anderson gets plugged in, if that means Josh 1585 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,960 Speaker 1: Allen says, or or vice verse, if Josh Allen stays 1586 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,599 Speaker 1: in the game and Derek Anderson has elevated the number 1587 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 1: two guy, whatever, I think that's all those issues are 1588 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 1: in play. Josh is a consideration and everything, just like 1589 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,639 Speaker 1: every other player is. Uh and he's and he's way 1590 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 1: more important in long term, But you also have got 1591 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 1: to try and win games for the guys in that 1592 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 1: locker room. So if if it gets the point where 1593 01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 1: Josh is like you guys both said it and I 1594 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 1: kind of noticed it as well that third series, the 1595 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 1: third quarter series he had where they were backed up 1596 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 1: in their own end. He was that was a guy 1597 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:41,080 Speaker 1: who was struggling. You know, his eyes were weren't downfield. 1598 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,479 Speaker 1: He looked one place, it wasn't there. He was looking 1599 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 1: to do something else. And so there were stretches in 1600 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 1: that game where you thought, wow, I don't know, you know, 1601 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,760 Speaker 1: he knew he might need some time. But in a 1602 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 1: big picture, how do you take You can't just it's 1603 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,760 Speaker 1: not like Joe Flacco and Lamar Jackson, you know, it's 1604 01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 1: just put him out of wide receiver for a minute, 1605 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,600 Speaker 1: led Lamar Jackson run a playoff the side. You know. 1606 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 1: So I think that for the coaching staffing, for the organization, 1607 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,000 Speaker 1: it's about winning this next game. And you look at 1608 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks, you look at Josh Allen, and you make 1609 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,760 Speaker 1: a judgment call and say, okay, listen, you know what, 1610 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,519 Speaker 1: maybe we'll get some added benefit to putting Derek Anderson 1611 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 1: in there and Josh sitting down and watching him for 1612 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,960 Speaker 1: a week. Maybe, but at some point you gotta switch 1613 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 1: him back. So where did you just flip a one 1614 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:32,600 Speaker 1: an from the last segment? Yeah, now you say Derek Anderson. No, 1615 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,720 Speaker 1: I say, if that's a judgment call, the team's gotta 1616 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 1: make you gotta you gotta make this shot. You might 1617 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,040 Speaker 1: to make the call or what's best for the team. 1618 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,960 Speaker 1: I think the best thing to do is play Josh Allen. 1619 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 1: If you gotta win this game, is playing Josh Allen 1620 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 1: the best thing to do. I don't know. May not be, 1621 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,720 Speaker 1: but I don't care. If he's healthy, he's healthy, he's 1622 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 1: gotta be the guy. If he's not healthy. But if 1623 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 1: he's not healthy, Derek Anderson's gotta be the guy. I 1624 01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 1: don't I don't want an I don't want any pardon, 1625 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 1: Nate Peterman. But what about winning this game? Well, you 1626 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: can win, Yeah, you can win with Josh. Okay, are 1627 01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 1: you following? I think we came back to pass so 1628 01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 1: I'm listen. I'm saying, I don't know what the coaches 1629 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,479 Speaker 1: are thinking, or what they think about Josh Allen, or 1630 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,599 Speaker 1: what Josh's attitude is in there? Uh, from from where 1631 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,679 Speaker 1: his health is for that, yeah, exactly from where we're sitting. 1632 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 1: I think, Josh Allen, you're gonna plug him back in 1633 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 1: and get him go and try and get him better. Um, 1634 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,240 Speaker 1: there may be some stuff going on in the locker room. 1635 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 1: Josh maybe further gone than we know. Maybe he is 1636 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 1: getting damaged. I don't know. I don't see it. I 1637 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,880 Speaker 1: don't see it. I don't see it. He's got it, 1638 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,599 Speaker 1: he's not getting better. That's what concerns me. Let's take 1639 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,599 Speaker 1: a call from Carling Clarence. Hello, Carl, you're on the air. Hey, guys, 1640 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,800 Speaker 1: I think Josh has got to start too, and just 1641 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,240 Speaker 1: make the offense as vanilla as possible for this kid. 1642 01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,160 Speaker 1: He doesn't he can't grasp at all. Yeah, that's obvious, 1643 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,600 Speaker 1: so just keep it simple. But my question to you, 1644 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,680 Speaker 1: guys is how in God's name can this team have 1645 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,880 Speaker 1: so many penalties, especially when this coach is preaching that 1646 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,439 Speaker 1: more than anybody since smart with the old don't be dirty, 1647 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,840 Speaker 1: don't be dumb line, and I just I just can't. 1648 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,639 Speaker 1: For the life of me, I feel the penalties cost 1649 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 1: us the game. I don't think we should ever have 1650 01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:21,680 Speaker 1: been in that position where Nate had to throw from 1651 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,080 Speaker 1: a touchdown was a minute and so I left. I 1652 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 1: should never have been in that position. Now, I'll tell 1653 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:28,840 Speaker 1: you what, Carl. There's a lot of what you say 1654 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,680 Speaker 1: and if there's anything that can be taking. I kind 1655 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 1: of I kind of teeter totter between blaming the players 1656 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 1: for the penalties or maybe the coaches for putting them 1657 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,960 Speaker 1: out in some some sort of mindset that they weren't 1658 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,680 Speaker 1: ready to play mentally. H If there's one thing you 1659 01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,559 Speaker 1: can lay at the feet of the coaches, it's maybe 1660 01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,760 Speaker 1: pre snap penalties and formation penalties, and it's you know, 1661 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,719 Speaker 1: penalties where you know, what are you doing not lining 1662 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,200 Speaker 1: up properly? If you're not going to do that pre 1663 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,360 Speaker 1: snap penalties you lay at the feet of the layers, 1664 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 1: not the coaches. Yeah, but how can you say coaches? 1665 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 1: I want to make sure you were writing what you 1666 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 1: were saying. Coaches take coaches got a coach that coach 1667 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 1: their players up so they don't get penalties? I put 1668 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:16,320 Speaker 1: that pre snap? How can a player not know that 1669 01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 1: he's not lined up correctly? Right? So that that's on 1670 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,600 Speaker 1: the player, isn't it? You gotta know that? How do 1671 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 1: you line up off sides? Yeah? You know what I mean? 1672 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,760 Speaker 1: Like Andre Holmes is off sides on a kickoff? How 1673 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,600 Speaker 1: are you? How do you what formation? I got to 1674 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 1: find out what formation was called? Why they didn't line that? 1675 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 1: How's the guy not now where to lie. Part of 1676 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 1: that's coaching. The illegal formation penalties, I know at least 1677 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,680 Speaker 1: two of them, not there was one yesterday, there was 1678 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 1: one last week. They didn't have seven guys up on 1679 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 1: the line close enough. You had a lineman that was 1680 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,800 Speaker 1: off the line. You know, he's cheating a little bit, 1681 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,640 Speaker 1: and usually the refs give you a warning, right, I 1682 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,479 Speaker 1: don't know. Usually they give you a warning he's off 1683 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 1: the line too much. They don't have seven online. What 1684 01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 1: happened yesterday? I don't have seven on the line and 1685 01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,559 Speaker 1: they well they got flagged for it three times yesterday. Yeah, 1686 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,880 Speaker 1: that can't happen three times six on offense or two 1687 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 1: starting to six on offense. That's coaching. It is absolutely 1688 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,040 Speaker 1: you gotta know where to line up, right, I mean 1689 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,040 Speaker 1: there's something a guy not know. Well, that's my point. 1690 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 1: You're a professional player, how do you not? That's not 1691 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,320 Speaker 1: on the players, that's on the coaches. Coaches got to listen, 1692 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,760 Speaker 1: make it clear where you're lined up, and know where 1693 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,240 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be lined up. I mean, I don't 1694 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 1: know if it gets more black and white than that, 1695 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,679 Speaker 1: like where you're lining up? Why we aren't they lining 1696 01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,559 Speaker 1: up properly. Then I just somebody's lack of focus something. 1697 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,640 Speaker 1: That's what I think it is. Listen, somebody listen. I 1698 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 1: put that. I put that on the for not being prepared. 1699 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,639 Speaker 1: Call here from Mark and Rochester. Hello, Mark, welcome, Welcome 1700 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,160 Speaker 1: to the show, you guys. I hate to bust up 1701 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 1: this lively discourse, but a couple of things. John frank Sipole, 1702 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:54,439 Speaker 1: Now General was a classmate. Yes, okay, General Frankie. Yes, 1703 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever had his mom's meatball, 1704 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:02,439 Speaker 1: but they're the best. Yeah. They were good to go 1705 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,479 Speaker 1: next time. Secondly, Um, I've been hearing all kinds of 1706 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,200 Speaker 1: stuff from the owner shoulders, how you got to do this, 1707 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,000 Speaker 1: you got to do that? In fans calling in uh, Steve, 1708 01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,720 Speaker 1: you remember I think Mark said if he want the 1709 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 1: fans name your quarterback, you end up sitting with him. 1710 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,280 Speaker 1: So I don't know if if he said that to 1711 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,120 Speaker 1: you guys and that, but I agree with that statement 1712 01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 1: because you got to you got a coach. That's the 1713 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:33,960 Speaker 1: bottom line there. Um. The formation penalties, in my mind, 1714 01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,240 Speaker 1: just drove me nuts. Um, and I don't I just 1715 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 1: don't see it. It's got to be the players. I mean, 1716 01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,160 Speaker 1: I played in high school and the center right next 1717 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 1: to me. I used to have to remind him of 1718 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,000 Speaker 1: a snap count between the huddle and the line because 1719 01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:52,679 Speaker 1: you forget it, and I had off side or did well, 1720 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 1: you know, three times he did it and I got 1721 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,760 Speaker 1: three off side. So I started just telling him it's 1722 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,559 Speaker 1: on two, it's on two, it's on two. Got up there. 1723 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:04,240 Speaker 1: So so that was painful. And here's my question. You know, 1724 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say I know a lot. You know, 1725 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,280 Speaker 1: he heard us. Oh, I played some football. We lost 1726 01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,439 Speaker 1: the football game, sixty eight nothing, So I'm going to 1727 01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:14,320 Speaker 1: say nothing about that. But my question is not about Peterman, 1728 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 1: because I'm sure he got hammered all day. My question 1729 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 1: is Steve, it's to you, really, should they have tried 1730 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,679 Speaker 1: the runs or something that I know there was time 1731 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,920 Speaker 1: left on the clock and timeouts and just on the 1732 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,600 Speaker 1: third down as something, just steaved that as long in 1733 01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,760 Speaker 1: the field as he possibly could, gets intercepted. It's like 1734 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,599 Speaker 1: a punt or whatever, and let us defense tough it out. 1735 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,040 Speaker 1: So I'd like to hear what you gotta say. Yeah, 1736 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,400 Speaker 1: you're talking about right before halftime, mark, No, I'm talking 1737 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,080 Speaker 1: about towards the end of the game. When its thirteen thirteen. 1738 01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, yeah, that's I'll tell you what they 1739 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,639 Speaker 1: are up thirteen ten and the Bills took ten six 1740 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,559 Speaker 1: minutes of the ten minutes off. They gave the ball 1741 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:58,680 Speaker 1: back to the Texans with four minutes ago and the 1742 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,920 Speaker 1: field to go to get to uh, to tie them up, 1743 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:03,519 Speaker 1: and the Texans were able to do it. Now they 1744 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,840 Speaker 1: were aided by the passing. But yeah, you can you 1745 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,840 Speaker 1: can listen. It didn't work. They should have tried something else. 1746 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,960 Speaker 1: But if they had tried something else and that didn't work, 1747 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,439 Speaker 1: you would have asked him to try what they actually tried. So, um, 1748 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,479 Speaker 1: play selection is uh, you know, you can go back 1749 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,599 Speaker 1: and forth. Um, it would have probably been just as 1750 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:27,679 Speaker 1: astronomical of a chance of being successful as Hail Mary 1751 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,120 Speaker 1: as well. So, um, you know, it didn't work whatever 1752 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,080 Speaker 1: they tried. And if they went back and tried it again, uh, yeah, 1753 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,000 Speaker 1: they would try something different if they knew what they 1754 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 1: were gonna call didn't work. We're gonna take a break. 1755 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 1: We're back with more. Chris Brown stage with us One 1756 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,200 Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills 1757 01:26:43,280 --> 01:27:01,080 Speaker 1: Radio One Bills Lives the name of the show chamber. 1758 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,200 Speaker 1: If he's Steve Tasker here every day noon to three. 1759 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,000 Speaker 1: Chris Brown joins us today for the next several minutes. 1760 01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,639 Speaker 1: We've got fred Jackson coming up at two o'clock today, 1761 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 1: Freddy ja. Yeah. In the meantime, you'll take your calls 1762 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 1: about the question of the day. If Josh Allen is healthy, 1763 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,639 Speaker 1: who should start a quarterback? To Sunday eighth fifty toll 1764 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 1765 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,880 Speaker 1: Mike on the line from New Mexico. Go ahead, Mike, 1766 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 1: you're on the air with this. Hey, guys, thank you 1767 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 1: very much for taking my call. Um. We we're talking 1768 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,960 Speaker 1: all about qbs and receivers and everything. I'm wondering why 1769 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:38,400 Speaker 1: we're leaving the OC out of this equation. That last 1770 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:42,880 Speaker 1: drive where Peterman threw that pass to the flat, that 1771 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 1: ill advised pass to the flat. I want to know 1772 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,840 Speaker 1: if that was a play call, because it certainly looked 1773 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,080 Speaker 1: like it was the design play. It was bam, bam, hike. 1774 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,360 Speaker 1: He takes three steps back, he's not even done moving backwards, 1775 01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,000 Speaker 1: and he's throwing that ball. If that was a play call, 1776 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:03,400 Speaker 1: that whole thing's on dable. They know Peterman can't make 1777 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:07,560 Speaker 1: that pass. It's blitzed. They blitzed right, They set the 1778 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,880 Speaker 1: nickel corner and the guy shot. He had to get 1779 01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 1: it out or he's going to be on the goal 1780 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,040 Speaker 1: line or maybe it's a safe. That was not the 1781 01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,400 Speaker 1: throw to make, but he had to get rid of it. Well, 1782 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy never has the arm to get 1783 01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,439 Speaker 1: it to the flat. That's what everybody knows about Peterman. 1784 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,120 Speaker 1: Not only that, but as we're watching TV, the guys 1785 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,879 Speaker 1: on CBS are showing this graphic on how the textans 1786 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:30,800 Speaker 1: that are leaving the middle of the field open. They're 1787 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 1: daring us to try and use that last one thirty 1788 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 1: of o'clock with passes down the middle and running up 1789 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,599 Speaker 1: to the line. Yeah, and instead we call a pass 1790 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 1: to the flat. It's a again, it was I believe 1791 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 1: it was an adjustment to the blitzmke. But you're right 1792 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,000 Speaker 1: about this. Everybody knows that about Nathan. Why doesn't Nathan 1793 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 1: know that? How doesn't know that he can't make that throw? 1794 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,000 Speaker 1: That's what because I want him to succeed, we all do. 1795 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,040 Speaker 1: But how does he not know that that's not his throw? 1796 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,599 Speaker 1: He can't do that? Yeah, I don't know. I don't. 1797 01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,120 Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for you on that one, 1798 01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I don't know that listening, we 1799 01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 1: will never know that. And certainly the coaching staff is 1800 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,960 Speaker 1: burning the midnight oil and trying to jump through hoops 1801 01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,200 Speaker 1: to make this offen something that whatever quarterback is in 1802 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,720 Speaker 1: there can be successful. They're trying to call plays that 1803 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 1: they can they can run, that they know they have 1804 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:19,439 Speaker 1: confidence in. H They have long conversations with these quarterbacks 1805 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,240 Speaker 1: about what they like, what they don't like, what they 1806 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,599 Speaker 1: can run, what they don't run, what they think they 1807 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 1: can see, and what they can't. Offensive coordinator and believe me, 1808 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,600 Speaker 1: switching gears from Josh Allen Nathan Peter is probably a 1809 01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:34,640 Speaker 1: little bit difficult as well. But make no mistake that 1810 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:38,880 Speaker 1: play was called because and certainly it wasn't designed to 1811 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,960 Speaker 1: be a pick six goal on the other way. So 1812 01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,439 Speaker 1: you can pump the brakes on blaming Brian day ball 1813 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:50,639 Speaker 1: for you know that, And you gotta give the defense 1814 01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:52,559 Speaker 1: a little bit of credit to They did bring pressure. 1815 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 1: They're trying to force that ball out of there very quickly, 1816 01:29:55,680 --> 01:30:00,320 Speaker 1: and they got it done. It was a bad rose, 1817 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,360 Speaker 1: a bad decision, and Peterman should have done anything other 1818 01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,080 Speaker 1: than what he did. And I think Murph said this 1819 01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:10,720 Speaker 1: last week though, When you are the offensive coordinator for 1820 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,080 Speaker 1: a unit that has a rookie quarterback who's getting the 1821 01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,719 Speaker 1: first start of his career, it's like you're calling plays 1822 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,200 Speaker 1: with a hand tide behind your back because you are 1823 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,560 Speaker 1: limited in what you can do. You may have a 1824 01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,840 Speaker 1: whole list of plays that you know are going to 1825 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,560 Speaker 1: work against the defense you're going against that week. But 1826 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:32,040 Speaker 1: if you're not confident and your quarterback who's a rookie, says, 1827 01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I like that play because I 1828 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,360 Speaker 1: have trouble reading getting from two to three on that 1829 01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,000 Speaker 1: and I worry about having enough time, bang gets off 1830 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,679 Speaker 1: the list. So now your coordinator, who has a list 1831 01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,960 Speaker 1: of twenty five plays that he likes and thinks can 1832 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 1: work against that defensive scheme that week based on the 1833 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:52,080 Speaker 1: talent he has, you know at the skill positions, maybe 1834 01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,519 Speaker 1: half of those get crossed off the list, and now 1835 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,960 Speaker 1: your options are fewer. Your chances of being unpredictable become 1836 01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,000 Speaker 1: more difficult because now you have to do it based 1837 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,879 Speaker 1: personnel grouping and formation and pre snap shifting in alignment. 1838 01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,240 Speaker 1: So you know, as much as people want to come 1839 01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 1: down hard on Dable. I think you have to understand 1840 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,560 Speaker 1: the circumstances with which he's been asked to operate, and 1841 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,360 Speaker 1: that's with a rookie quarterback, limited talent at receiver, and 1842 01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,680 Speaker 1: an offensive line that only now is starting to gain 1843 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,880 Speaker 1: some traction. Here, Hey, Chris, what's coming up on the website? 1844 01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:25,960 Speaker 1: What do you got coming up? Well, we've got our 1845 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,200 Speaker 1: weekly stats column tomorrow, and we're going to take a 1846 01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:33,519 Speaker 1: look at the sizeable jump that this defense has made 1847 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:38,360 Speaker 1: from week two to week seven. The jump they've made 1848 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:42,599 Speaker 1: in some statistical categories in terms of league rankings may 1849 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,120 Speaker 1: knock your socks off. They've really come a long way 1850 01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,680 Speaker 1: in a very short period of time. And I'm going 1851 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 1: to tell you when you have a couple of games 1852 01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,120 Speaker 1: where you've given up forty plus points on the scoreboard, 1853 01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 1: it's very hard to pull your ranking up in several categories, 1854 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,519 Speaker 1: the least of which is points allowed. But the Bills 1855 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,320 Speaker 1: have done that defensive side of the ball. So we're 1856 01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,000 Speaker 1: gonna kind of dive into that tomorrow on our weekly 1857 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,160 Speaker 1: stats co and coverage of Sean mcdermot's news conference. We'll 1858 01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,559 Speaker 1: have quick hits later this afternoon based on what coach 1859 01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,639 Speaker 1: McDermot has to say, whether he chooses to shed any 1860 01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,920 Speaker 1: light on Josh's injury, Lad Dukasa's injury, or any other 1861 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,200 Speaker 1: development that's going on on one side of the ball 1862 01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 1: or the other. You know, I'm sure he's going to 1863 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 1: have some interesting words for what happened on special teams, 1864 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,720 Speaker 1: because this isn't the first week where special teams has 1865 01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,439 Speaker 1: had a snaffu. I mean, we had a miscommunication last 1866 01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,599 Speaker 1: week the week before on a field goal that costs 1867 01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:34,320 Speaker 1: them three points, and then yesterday they have a couple 1868 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,280 Speaker 1: of miscues that give ten points to the opposition and 1869 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,759 Speaker 1: when winds up being a seven point result. The unfortunate 1870 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:43,120 Speaker 1: about the thing about the whole thing is, yet, when 1871 01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,120 Speaker 1: you're playing with the offense in the shape that it's in, 1872 01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,479 Speaker 1: with the lack of production, a wide receiver, with your 1873 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,120 Speaker 1: quarterback that's struggling the way he is, your offensive line 1874 01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,120 Speaker 1: had holes to fill, and there's just actually they're kind 1875 01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:59,200 Speaker 1: of playing a little better in pass protection, but everybody's 1876 01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,439 Speaker 1: got to play better or every place else if you've 1877 01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,439 Speaker 1: got to overcome a rookie quarterback like they do, and 1878 01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:06,920 Speaker 1: particularly given the fact they're thrown for less than one 1879 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,280 Speaker 1: hundred yards or or between a one hundred and two 1880 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,880 Speaker 1: hundred yards passing. They've got to play better everywhere, and 1881 01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,280 Speaker 1: you've got you know, special teams that are having problems, 1882 01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,400 Speaker 1: and special teams if you make it the only time 1883 01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,679 Speaker 1: you ever. You can lose a game on special teams 1884 01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,360 Speaker 1: way easier than you can win it well, and you 1885 01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,640 Speaker 1: have fewer opportunities to make a difference. And there's you 1886 01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,240 Speaker 1: only got twenty twenty five players a game, and it's 1887 01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,679 Speaker 1: hard to make up for us for a muffed punt 1888 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:34,640 Speaker 1: and uh and two weeks ago, a miscommunication where the 1889 01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,200 Speaker 1: guy thinks it's a fake, it's not a fake. He 1890 01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:37,880 Speaker 1: give it over on a turnover and he almost throws 1891 01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:41,080 Speaker 1: an interception doing it. Then you've got a block punt 1892 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:45,800 Speaker 1: this week. It's that's bad. It's really bad. And you 1893 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,759 Speaker 1: can say whatever you want about the offense. The special 1894 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:51,600 Speaker 1: teams have been bad. Okay, thanks Chris, you got it. 1895 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,920 Speaker 1: Chris Brown Bills inside a Buffalo Bills dot Com. When 1896 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,479 Speaker 1: we come back, Fred Jackson joins the sound of the line. 1897 01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk about yesterday's game and about some other issues 1898 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,479 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Come on back. One Bill's Live presented 1899 01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,560 Speaker 1: by Kalada Health from One Bills Drive and this is 1900 01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:19,840 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Network Stories update the update 1901 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,320 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. The players are ear for conditioning 1902 01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,040 Speaker 1: work and meeting work and a lot to look at. 1903 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,320 Speaker 1: After yesterday's lost twenty to thirteen loss of the Houston Texans, 1904 01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,880 Speaker 1: Bills have a quarterback decision to make as well. Rookie 1905 01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:33,000 Speaker 1: quarterback Josh Allen suffered an elbow injury and the third 1906 01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,479 Speaker 1: quarter was replaced by Nathan Peterman. Peterman, of course, through 1907 01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,439 Speaker 1: the pick six that was return for the go ahead 1908 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:43,880 Speaker 1: touchdown the game winning score. It was a tough loss 1909 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,960 Speaker 1: for the Bills, with some special teams miscus in a 1910 01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,200 Speaker 1: great performance by the Buffalo defense. Head coach Sear McDermott 1911 01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,639 Speaker 1: meets the media later on this afternoon, at which time 1912 01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,479 Speaker 1: he may update the injury condition for Josh Allen and 1913 01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,439 Speaker 1: maybe before guard blad Duke Cops who left the game 1914 01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,680 Speaker 1: with a knee injury. Bill's next game coming up next 1915 01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:02,080 Speaker 1: Sunday at Indiana. Up this elsewhere around the NFL, Adam 1916 01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:05,720 Speaker 1: Gayse says the late scratch of Ryan Tannehill and yesterday's 1917 01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,360 Speaker 1: game for the Miami Dolphins wasn't surprise. He didn't have 1918 01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,520 Speaker 1: much to say about it after the game, though. Tannehill's 1919 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,960 Speaker 1: shoulder was termed so sore he had not shown up 1920 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,280 Speaker 1: at a pregame workout to be cleared to play. Rock 1921 01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,960 Speaker 1: Oswiler started the game before the Miami Dolphins. They threw 1922 01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:23,240 Speaker 1: for three hundred and eighty yards three touchdowns. Dolphins wont 1923 01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,000 Speaker 1: it in overtime thirty one twenty eight over the Chicago Bears. 1924 01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:29,599 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens had a huge game defensively yesterday. They sat 1925 01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:33,200 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota eleven times, a franchise record in a twenty 1926 01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:36,519 Speaker 1: one to nothing victory. Ravens over the Tennessee Titans. Game 1927 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,040 Speaker 1: marked the first time the quarterbacks when arrasked that many 1928 01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,800 Speaker 1: times since the Jets. Greg McElroy was sacked eleven times 1929 01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:45,320 Speaker 1: by the Chargers back in twenty twelve. Sabers out West. 1930 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,599 Speaker 1: They started their five game road trip on the right 1931 01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,600 Speaker 1: note with the three to nineteen win over Arizona on 1932 01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:53,320 Speaker 1: Saturday night. Rassmansdalin scored his first NHL goal in that game. 1933 01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo plays again tomorrow night. They played the Vegas Golden 1934 01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,479 Speaker 1: Nights at Team Obil Arena. That game starts at ten 1935 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,760 Speaker 1: PM tomorrow and tonight major League Baseball playoff action in 1936 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,400 Speaker 1: the National League Championship Series. It is Game three between 1937 01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,320 Speaker 1: Milwaukee and Los Angeles. The series moves to Dodger Stadium. 1938 01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,880 Speaker 1: That series tight at one win a piece. Milwaukee at 1939 01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,120 Speaker 1: Los Angeles in the NLCS Tonight. That's the update from 1940 01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,840 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker joining us on 1941 01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,439 Speaker 1: the Subway fresh Day Kindline. A regular Monday visit from 1942 01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,560 Speaker 1: former Bills running back Fred Jackson, the co host of 1943 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,720 Speaker 1: Bills Tonight airs eleven thirty on Sunday on MSG. A 1944 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,000 Speaker 1: recap of the game, Fred, How are you? John Murphy 1945 01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,400 Speaker 1: and Steve here in Buffalo. Good to talk with you. 1946 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,080 Speaker 1: It's good at Thanks for having me again. Are you 1947 01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,559 Speaker 1: handling yesterday's loss? What did you think? I mean, it's 1948 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,760 Speaker 1: it's a tough one, especially with as well as the 1949 01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,280 Speaker 1: defense played yesterday. It's always gonna be tough, a tough 1950 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,559 Speaker 1: pill to swallow one. They got as much pressure as 1951 01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,320 Speaker 1: they did and uh, we didn't come away with the win. Yeah, 1952 01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,920 Speaker 1: I was telling Murphy, it's a little bit of an overreaction, 1953 01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:53,080 Speaker 1: I say. I think because listen, Texans defense is legit, 1954 01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,639 Speaker 1: they got some really, they got some studs up front, 1955 01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:57,320 Speaker 1: and you knew it was going to be a struggle 1956 01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,880 Speaker 1: with any quarterback in there. And and for the Bill 1957 01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,479 Speaker 1: to have a chance to win it late, um, I 1958 01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,760 Speaker 1: think says a lot. And particularly when you look at 1959 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,920 Speaker 1: the struggles they had on special teams, I would agree. 1960 01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:10,240 Speaker 1: You know, when you when you look at that team 1961 01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:11,800 Speaker 1: from top to bottom of defense, it's one of the 1962 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,559 Speaker 1: most talented teams in the league. So anytime you got 1963 01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,360 Speaker 1: a guy like JJ and Clowning up there, coming compliment 1964 01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:20,920 Speaker 1: each other and creating as much havoc as they have 1965 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,160 Speaker 1: to be able to have a chance to win the game, 1966 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,760 Speaker 1: going on the road down in the Texans stadium, uh 1967 01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,040 Speaker 1: and having a chance to go late in the game 1968 01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,640 Speaker 1: to win it, I think that's something that anybody in 1969 01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,640 Speaker 1: the locker room would have would have liked to have. Unfortunately, 1970 01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,400 Speaker 1: they just didn't come away with the win. Okay, Well, 1971 01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,280 Speaker 1: here's the silver lining and the offense. I thought the 1972 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,280 Speaker 1: offensive line Fred did pretty well against Clowney and JJ 1973 01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,639 Speaker 1: wind in that group the two sacks of Buffalo quarterbacks. 1974 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,040 Speaker 1: I know they were pressured, but it wasn't out of 1975 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,920 Speaker 1: control and in fact, I think the Bills offensive line 1976 01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:52,120 Speaker 1: I played the Texans offensive line considerably in that game. 1977 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,320 Speaker 1: I would agree one hundred percent. I think that when 1978 01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 1: they sewed up there was a talent that they took 1979 01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,120 Speaker 1: upon themselves that you know, we weren't going to let 1980 01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,600 Speaker 1: them create the have that they they're known for doing it. 1981 01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,479 Speaker 1: I think, without a doubt, they lived up to the 1982 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,200 Speaker 1: challenge and protected the quarterbacks as much as they could have. 1983 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,720 Speaker 1: Talk a little I was gonna ask you a little bit, 1984 01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,360 Speaker 1: Fred about what you saw and maybe what you're looking 1985 01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:14,120 Speaker 1: at it. In the Bill's run game, it's one thing 1986 01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:17,479 Speaker 1: they've been able to depend on, even through quarterback struggles 1987 01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,560 Speaker 1: to the last you know, well, when they didn't have 1988 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,639 Speaker 1: a very good passing game the last handful of years, 1989 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,080 Speaker 1: their running game has always showed up. And it didn't yesterday. 1990 01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,800 Speaker 1: I think you got to give the Texans credit on that. 1991 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:31,360 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that they wanted to 1992 01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,760 Speaker 1: do was keep them from running the ball that they 1993 01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:37,200 Speaker 1: want the way that Buffalo wants to. You could tell 1994 01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,000 Speaker 1: that their mentality yesterday is they were going to keep 1995 01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,120 Speaker 1: the ball in Allan's ends and make them beat them. 1996 01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:45,439 Speaker 1: They did want Shady and Ivory to get going like 1997 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:50,320 Speaker 1: they did the week before. I think that's whatever, whatever 1998 01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,840 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator you're gonna face, I think that's what they 1999 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,679 Speaker 1: want to do. They want to make the rookie quarterback 2000 01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,360 Speaker 1: beat them, and Houston did a pretty good job of 2001 01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,360 Speaker 1: that yesterday. They they kind of kept those guys team, 2002 01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,280 Speaker 1: but you know, Shady and uh I did as much 2003 01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:04,920 Speaker 1: as they could to get that running game going and 2004 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,000 Speaker 1: take some of that pressure off of the you know, 2005 01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,360 Speaker 1: both young quarterbacks and Fred. Let's ask you the question 2006 01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,439 Speaker 1: we've been discussing with fans today. Let's say Josh Allen 2007 01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,880 Speaker 1: is healthy and can play this Sunday against Indy, who 2008 01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:17,920 Speaker 1: would you start? Which quarterback would you start against the 2009 01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:21,280 Speaker 1: Colts for the Buffalo Bills. Well, I think you gotta 2010 01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:23,360 Speaker 1: go with Alan, you know, with the way he's performed, 2011 01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, the past three or four weeks, I think 2012 01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,679 Speaker 1: he gives you the best chance to win. Um. I'm 2013 01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,320 Speaker 1: not a knock against Peterman. You know, he's obviously taking 2014 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:36,960 Speaker 1: a brunt of the reasoning for the loss this past weekend. 2015 01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,560 Speaker 1: But I think Alan just brings, you know, more of 2016 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,960 Speaker 1: a stable uh person at the helm when whenever they're 2017 01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,800 Speaker 1: out there competing and I think the God's rally around him. 2018 01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,640 Speaker 1: I think he makes more plays with his feet, and 2019 01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:49,160 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that they're going 2020 01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:52,879 Speaker 1: to need a lot going forward, is him keep creating 2021 01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,640 Speaker 1: plays with his feet and keeping plays alive with his 2022 01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,200 Speaker 1: feet by moving around in the pocket. So I think 2023 01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,320 Speaker 1: obviously he gives you the best chance to win football game. 2024 01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,920 Speaker 1: What do you think the best philosophy is for the 2025 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,840 Speaker 1: offensive staff about putting together an offensive game plan with 2026 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,679 Speaker 1: Josh Allen in there, What do you think they're doing 2027 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:14,680 Speaker 1: and what do you think maybe they've missed well? I 2028 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,040 Speaker 1: think one of the things that I would like to 2029 01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:20,000 Speaker 1: see him do, you know, and it's obvious to sit back, 2030 01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, from my point of view and say throw 2031 01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,040 Speaker 1: more balls down the field. I think you got to 2032 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,720 Speaker 1: back some of those safeties up. You know, when you 2033 01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,800 Speaker 1: complete more balls down the field, it's gonna make it 2034 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:30,639 Speaker 1: to where some safeties are gonna have to stay back 2035 01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,160 Speaker 1: and help some corners. So I think, you know, if 2036 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,720 Speaker 1: you can get stay involved, if if you can get 2037 01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, helping to make more plays down the field, 2038 01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,479 Speaker 1: like he had two big plays yesterday, I think if 2039 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,320 Speaker 1: you can get those guys going and uh, you know, 2040 01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,560 Speaker 1: making the safeties and corners respect that. I think it 2041 01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,160 Speaker 1: opens up the running game and that allows for those 2042 01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:52,400 Speaker 1: guys to, you know, do what they do. And obviously 2043 01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna make it a lot easier for Josh if 2044 01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:56,599 Speaker 1: he can turn around and hand the ball off twenty 2045 01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,000 Speaker 1: and thirty times and take some pressure off of him 2046 01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,000 Speaker 1: doing a tremendous job trying to keep the running game involved. 2047 01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:06,599 Speaker 1: You know, I know Shady had almost twenty carries yesterday. 2048 01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,120 Speaker 1: You know, Ivory probably had about ten plus himself. So 2049 01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,479 Speaker 1: anytime you can try and establish a running game and 2050 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 1: making a defense respect that, it takes a lot of 2051 01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,600 Speaker 1: pressure off for Alan as well. Around the line with 2052 01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,040 Speaker 1: Fred Jackson, former Bills running back. He's the co host 2053 01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:25,160 Speaker 1: with Mike Catalina of Bills Tonight eleven thirty Sunday nights 2054 01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,200 Speaker 1: and recap of that day's Bills game on the MSG 2055 01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:31,560 Speaker 1: TV show Bills Tonight. Fred, Let's let's switch gears a 2056 01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,320 Speaker 1: little bit. Last night, the Patriots beat the Chiefs forty 2057 01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,600 Speaker 1: three to forty A great fourth quarter, that's all I 2058 01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:38,360 Speaker 1: saw by the time I got off the play last night. 2059 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:40,559 Speaker 1: What did you make of that game and what does 2060 01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,160 Speaker 1: it say about, you know, kind of the power centers 2061 01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,800 Speaker 1: of the AFC when the Chiefs can take it that 2062 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,200 Speaker 1: fire at Foxborough, you know, lose by three points and 2063 01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,000 Speaker 1: go toe to toe with them. Yeah, I think when 2064 01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,640 Speaker 1: you look at both those teams, you just see you know, 2065 01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:57,000 Speaker 1: offensive weapons everywhere, and with Mahomes doing what he's doing. 2066 01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,240 Speaker 1: And then you got Tyreek and you got Kareem Hunt, 2067 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,920 Speaker 1: you got Sammy uh and guys and uh, I can't 2068 01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,160 Speaker 1: even think of tight ends name, you know, and guys 2069 01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:10,240 Speaker 1: like that. Just yeah, Kelsey, Kelsey making plays for Kansas City. 2070 01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,559 Speaker 1: They're gonna put up forty points every game. And then 2071 01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:14,120 Speaker 1: you on the on the other side of the ball, 2072 01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,559 Speaker 1: you got Brady with Gronk and Hogan and Gordon now 2073 01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:21,719 Speaker 1: and Edelman coming back. Um, then post running backs making plays. 2074 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:24,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna see shootouts like that and it's gonna be 2075 01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:26,760 Speaker 1: high powered offenses. And that's what you got yesterday. It 2076 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:28,599 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun, you know to sit back 2077 01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,200 Speaker 1: and watch and and you knew the end of the 2078 01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:34,240 Speaker 1: game was gonna come down to whoever had the ball lasting. Uh. 2079 01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,880 Speaker 1: When when you see two explosive offensives like that, uh, 2080 01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,679 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be an entertaining gaming. Uh, it's 2081 01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,120 Speaker 1: it's telling everybody around the league, you know, be prepared 2082 01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 1: to you you're gonna have to be in a shootout 2083 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,080 Speaker 1: to beat us. It's like a latch of a different game. 2084 01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,120 Speaker 1: When you watch so much Buffalo Bills football, you know 2085 01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,920 Speaker 1: what I mean, Bill struggle to score thirteen points. These 2086 01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,679 Speaker 1: guys scored thirteen in the blink of an eye. Yeah, 2087 01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's and that's football, you know, weekend and 2088 01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:01,120 Speaker 1: week out. There's gonna be different things that contribute to 2089 01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:03,760 Speaker 1: whose score, or different people are gonna contribute to who's 2090 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:07,000 Speaker 1: scoring and things like that. And you know, one thing 2091 01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,200 Speaker 1: that the Buffalo brings to the table is there. I 2092 01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,960 Speaker 1: think their defense will keep both those teams by putting 2093 01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:15,200 Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterbacks. I think they keep both those 2094 01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:19,000 Speaker 1: teams from scoring forty points. And it will come down 2095 01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,000 Speaker 1: to those guys doing that when they play the Patriots, 2096 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to keep you know, Brady uncomfortable and 2097 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,840 Speaker 1: poor Simmon throwing some arrand throws and taking advantage of 2098 01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:29,400 Speaker 1: it on the defensive end of the ball or backfield 2099 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,960 Speaker 1: of the ball. One of the most surprising games yesterday 2100 01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,720 Speaker 1: came out of Miami where brock Oswiler got a chance 2101 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,960 Speaker 1: to start. Ryan Tannehill was a late scratch and he's 2102 01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:41,040 Speaker 1: playing against a defense in the Chicago Bears that's really 2103 01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:45,960 Speaker 1: playing extremely well. And brock Oswidler, who I don't know 2104 01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,479 Speaker 1: how you know you talk about Nate Peterman. Brock Oswiler 2105 01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:51,080 Speaker 1: has struggled in his career to play quarterback and all 2106 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:52,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden he comes in, throws for almost four 2107 01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:56,080 Speaker 1: hundred yards, three touchdowns and beat one of the hottest 2108 01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:59,840 Speaker 1: defenses in the league. How does that happen? You know, 2109 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,360 Speaker 1: it's a great coach One said that, that's why you 2110 01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,760 Speaker 1: played the game. You know, brock Oswalder was one of 2111 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,840 Speaker 1: the highest free agents on the market when you know 2112 01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,960 Speaker 1: his contract was up, and there was a reason for that. 2113 01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,839 Speaker 1: You know, he obviously hasn't lived up to the potential 2114 01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,040 Speaker 1: that he had you know when he signed that deal, 2115 01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:19,599 Speaker 1: but he's still a guy that can sling the ball around. 2116 01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,439 Speaker 1: And they still have weapons down in Miami, and God 2117 01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,679 Speaker 1: stepped up and they knew when Oswalder was named the starter, 2118 01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:27,599 Speaker 1: they were gonna have to make some plays around him 2119 01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:30,240 Speaker 1: to win that game, and they did. And that game 2120 01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:33,360 Speaker 1: was another fun shootout to watching, you know, guys running 2121 01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,519 Speaker 1: up and down the field. I think they had probably 2122 01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:39,000 Speaker 1: three or four touchdowns that were over fifty yards. So 2123 01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,360 Speaker 1: anytime you have that in the game, it's a lot 2124 01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:45,320 Speaker 1: of fun to watching. I think guys recognized in the 2125 01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,760 Speaker 1: locker room when we have somebody coming in to play 2126 01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:51,120 Speaker 1: quarterback that hasn't or we wouldn't expecting to start, we 2127 01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,519 Speaker 1: gotta make plays around them help him. And that's exactly 2128 01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,519 Speaker 1: what guys did. With Fred Jackson, former Bill's running back, 2129 01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 1: you joined the Sound the Lion. As we talked about 2130 01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:01,519 Speaker 1: some of yesterday's NFL they Fred, there's like a whole 2131 01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,000 Speaker 1: new group of new running backs in the league that 2132 01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:07,639 Speaker 1: starting to get at tension. Joe Mixon in Cincinnati's running well. 2133 01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,680 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley has had some great years. Do you have 2134 01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,320 Speaker 1: any favorites of the young group of Camara down in 2135 01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:14,400 Speaker 1: New Orleans? There some really good young running backs who 2136 01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,760 Speaker 1: are running around there now. There it is and it's 2137 01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,800 Speaker 1: and it's hard to pick, you know, one or two, 2138 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,599 Speaker 1: because I think they all bring something different to the table. 2139 01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,800 Speaker 1: That's just fun to watch about him. Uh, you know 2140 01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:27,680 Speaker 1: Ezekiel down in Dallas, what he's doing, you know, he's 2141 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,040 Speaker 1: an explosive runner, and he can also just you know, 2142 01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,080 Speaker 1: he's a powerful guy that can run by you in 2143 01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:35,080 Speaker 1: the blinkerman eye as well. Uh. You know Alvin Kamar, 2144 01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:37,360 Speaker 1: what he's doing out of the backfield, you know, lining 2145 01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:39,519 Speaker 1: up a receiver and just beating you know, corners is 2146 01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,960 Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch, especially coming from a 2147 01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 1: running back. Um. But you know Melvin Gordon what he's 2148 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,759 Speaker 1: doing out in San Diego, and I think you gotta, 2149 01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:51,680 Speaker 1: without a doubt, say Todd Gurley is is one of 2150 01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,880 Speaker 1: the best ones of watching what he's doing. You know, 2151 01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,800 Speaker 1: name being named offensive MVP last year, you know that 2152 01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:58,640 Speaker 1: was for a reason. You know, he's a guy that 2153 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:02,880 Speaker 1: will be on the field all redounds and whatever defense 2154 01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:04,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna put put out on the field, he's gonna 2155 01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,559 Speaker 1: exploit it in some kind of way. So, uh, he's 2156 01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,160 Speaker 1: one that I think a lot of guys are looking 2157 01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,360 Speaker 1: to try and catch up to just because of the 2158 01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,400 Speaker 1: sheer numbers that he continues to put up in what 2159 01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,280 Speaker 1: his offensive unit is doing out in you know, lay 2160 01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:19,880 Speaker 1: Another young guy that neither one of us mentioned was 2161 01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:23,600 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette down in Jackson. He's been nick but he 2162 01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,200 Speaker 1: continues to be the driving force behind that offense as well. 2163 01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:31,120 Speaker 1: Also Melvin Gordon three touchdowns in the Chargers winning and 2164 01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:33,400 Speaker 1: the Browns got brought back to earth a little bit 2165 01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,800 Speaker 1: by the by the same the LA Chargers. Uh what 2166 01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,599 Speaker 1: do you see with the Chargers? And you know, why 2167 01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:41,600 Speaker 1: are they riding a little bit what looks to be 2168 01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,160 Speaker 1: a roller coaster this year? They look good one week, 2169 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:49,280 Speaker 1: almost dominant one week and struggle the next. Uh if 2170 01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:51,640 Speaker 1: just from looking at it, they're they're inconsistent in their 2171 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,320 Speaker 1: run game, I think is what I see. Um. You know, 2172 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,760 Speaker 1: if if Melvin Gordon is going, uh, they're a hard 2173 01:46:57,800 --> 01:46:59,640 Speaker 1: team to beat. Because we know what Philip can do 2174 01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:02,920 Speaker 1: is quarterback. We know he can pick any defensive part 2175 01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,280 Speaker 1: that you know, and he does it pre game or 2176 01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,479 Speaker 1: pre snap. So if you get a good running game 2177 01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:12,280 Speaker 1: going with those in that combination with Philip Rivers doing 2178 01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,639 Speaker 1: what he's doing, uh, they're a hard team to beat. 2179 01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:17,599 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they did yesterday. Melvin Gordon running 2180 01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,880 Speaker 1: for Russian for three touchdowns and just being a key 2181 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:24,280 Speaker 1: catalyst on that offensive side of the ball makes them 2182 01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:26,800 Speaker 1: a hard team to beat. And uh, you know, as 2183 01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:28,840 Speaker 1: long as they can stay consistent and turn around hitting 2184 01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:30,760 Speaker 1: him the ball, you know, twenty times, and he's doing 2185 01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,960 Speaker 1: what he's doing. Uh, they're gonna be one of the 2186 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,960 Speaker 1: toughest teams to beat in the FC. They freed back 2187 01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:37,120 Speaker 1: to the Bills to wrap things up. Earlier on we 2188 01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:40,200 Speaker 1: had a sound bite down our show from Jordan Poyer 2189 01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,960 Speaker 1: Bill Safe. You said, that's one of the toughest losses 2190 01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:46,400 Speaker 1: yesterday he's ever been in. Uh. You you weather to 2191 01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,519 Speaker 1: store him through some tough losses and you're ten, you're 2192 01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,360 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. How do you bounce back from that? 2193 01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,120 Speaker 1: And when do you start bouncing back from a loss 2194 01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:56,120 Speaker 1: like that? Uh, It's it's easier said than done. But 2195 01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:57,840 Speaker 1: the number one thing you have to do is to 2196 01:47:57,920 --> 01:47:59,880 Speaker 1: know that you have to bounce back for it because 2197 01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:03,559 Speaker 1: you're going to play Indy this week, and Indy doesn't 2198 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,599 Speaker 1: care about what happened to you last week in Houston. 2199 01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:07,800 Speaker 1: So Uh, they're gonna come out and try and hit 2200 01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,320 Speaker 1: you in the mouth. So you gotta be ready. And 2201 01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:12,040 Speaker 1: the number one thing you do is you come in 2202 01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 1: and you watch film today just like you've been doing, uh, 2203 01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,280 Speaker 1: and you pick it what you did will and really 2204 01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:20,240 Speaker 1: focus on what it is that you can do better, 2205 01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:25,599 Speaker 1: and you know, flush that game tomorrow on the day 2206 01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:27,560 Speaker 1: off to Tuesday. The day off, you you know, you 2207 01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:30,000 Speaker 1: watch a little film here and there, but when you 2208 01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,040 Speaker 1: come back to work Wednesday, that's exactly what you're doing. 2209 01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,240 Speaker 1: You're coming back to work. You're coming back to focus 2210 01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:37,360 Speaker 1: on Indy and forget about what just happened to you 2211 01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:40,080 Speaker 1: in in Houston. And as long as you do that 2212 01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,639 Speaker 1: and get yourself ready to come down and compete, Uh, 2213 01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:45,720 Speaker 1: go down to Indie and compete, you know you'll be 2214 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,280 Speaker 1: all right because you guys have the tools that you 2215 01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,280 Speaker 1: need to to win the game. All right, good advice, Fred, 2216 01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,920 Speaker 1: Thanks very much, Fred, good talking to you. Fred Jackson, 2217 01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,240 Speaker 1: former Bills running back Fred Jackson E co hosts a 2218 01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,800 Speaker 1: regular show Sunday night, eleven thirty on MHG. Bills Tonight, 2219 01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,800 Speaker 1: Fred and Mike Alanna with a complete recap of the 2220 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,040 Speaker 1: Bills game every Sunday night, eleven thirty on msg JO. 2221 01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm Murphy Steve Tasker here at One Bill's Drive with 2222 01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,960 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Our Twitter question today not a poll, 2223 01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,920 Speaker 1: but our question deals with the Bills plans at quarterback. 2224 01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:17,320 Speaker 1: Let's say Josh Allen is healthy this week, who do 2225 01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,080 Speaker 1: you start a quarterback against the Indianapolis Colts. Give us 2226 01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:21,680 Speaker 1: a call, let us know what you think. Eight oh 2227 01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:24,320 Speaker 1: three h five fifty toll free one eight eight eight 2228 01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:28,200 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. I say, Josh, You say, Josh, right, 2229 01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:29,880 Speaker 1: if he's healthy, right, that's the way to go. Yeah, 2230 01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,320 Speaker 1: I think so. I'm not ready to pull the plug 2231 01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:37,040 Speaker 1: on that yet. I think I don't see any sign 2232 01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,160 Speaker 1: we're not with you know. You and I don't talk 2233 01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:40,760 Speaker 1: to him every day, we don't see him every day. 2234 01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing any signs of him being ready to 2235 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:47,559 Speaker 1: cashing in. Certainly, he does look like a young, nervous 2236 01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:51,400 Speaker 1: quarterback at times. There are times when his abilities really 2237 01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:54,120 Speaker 1: shine through. There are times when he makes great throws. 2238 01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:58,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think I've seen the point where it 2239 01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:04,000 Speaker 1: looks like it's bad for the team that he's out there. Uh, 2240 01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,960 Speaker 1: certainly there if you know, with better quarterback play, maybe 2241 01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:09,519 Speaker 1: the team would look better. But as we've both noted 2242 01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:13,320 Speaker 1: a number of times, this is a team with unproven 2243 01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,120 Speaker 1: wide receivers on one side in Zay Jones and then 2244 01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,000 Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin, who is a you know, is not a 2245 01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:22,200 Speaker 1: speed guy's a big target guy that you got to 2246 01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,719 Speaker 1: throw too when he's covered and that, and Josh Allen 2247 01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,920 Speaker 1: doesn't want to throw anybody when they're covered, yet you 2248 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:28,639 Speaker 1: know he's wanting to throw it to an open guy 2249 01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,400 Speaker 1: still as a young quarterback. So you know their limit 2250 01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,360 Speaker 1: on the outside with what they're they're doing. Uh, their 2251 01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:37,040 Speaker 1: run game is being taken away by defenses as a 2252 01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,080 Speaker 1: matter of course to put the game into a rookie 2253 01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:44,639 Speaker 1: quarterback's hands. So their their run game is not producing 2254 01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,160 Speaker 1: like you'd love it to produce because the fact that 2255 01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,280 Speaker 1: that's the one thing the defense knows you've got. So 2256 01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:51,840 Speaker 1: you're up against a lot of things. But I still 2257 01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:55,840 Speaker 1: think in the midst of all of that, you're doing 2258 01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:57,960 Speaker 1: your future favor and you're giving your team your best 2259 01:50:58,040 --> 01:50:59,519 Speaker 1: chance to win with the best guy in there and 2260 01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:02,280 Speaker 1: that most physically gifted guy in there, and that's Josh Allen. 2261 01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,040 Speaker 1: So what do you think if Josh Allen is healthy? 2262 01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,160 Speaker 1: Who did the mill started quarterback on the tweet sheet, 2263 01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:10,400 Speaker 1: Keith Larkin responds, Josh Allen period, end of story. Gotta 2264 01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:12,120 Speaker 1: let him play and then I'll have the offseason to 2265 01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:15,040 Speaker 1: work with new wide receivers. This takes time. It takes 2266 01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,600 Speaker 1: at least twenty four starts before you know what you have. 2267 01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 1: Where Keith got that number twenty I don't know. I 2268 01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:22,640 Speaker 1: was thinking about that and yesterday watching the season and 2269 01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,840 Speaker 1: a half watching Deshaun Watson. That was his twelfth NFL 2270 01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:29,040 Speaker 1: start yesterday. He's not a finished product either, By the way, Watson, 2271 01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:32,760 Speaker 1: he's good. He's talented, very athletic, very mobile, can throw 2272 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,880 Speaker 1: a really nice pass. He's not a finished product though, No, no, 2273 01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:39,599 Speaker 1: he's not, and he'll You know, he had a stretch 2274 01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:41,800 Speaker 1: last year where before he got hurt, where they were 2275 01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:44,439 Speaker 1: lighten it up. They haven't been able to match that 2276 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:47,760 Speaker 1: yet this year after the strong start he had got 2277 01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,080 Speaker 1: another from the tweet sheet John Whitfield, the only answer 2278 01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,479 Speaker 1: is Josh Allen, you don't pull him because he got hurt. 2279 01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,920 Speaker 1: Look how dejected he looked afterwards, didn't even talk after 2280 01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:57,519 Speaker 1: the game. If you bench him, I feel like you're 2281 01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:01,439 Speaker 1: hurting his process, process or progress, whichever you want to put. 2282 01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, um, what do you think about Josh Allen's 2283 01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,000 Speaker 1: reaction to being He was frustrated yesterday. He wanted to 2284 01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,680 Speaker 1: get back in and I liked. One of the things 2285 01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,240 Speaker 1: I like most about him is his competitive spirit, you know, 2286 01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:15,960 Speaker 1: And I think that was not display. He got up 2287 01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:17,560 Speaker 1: and threw a little bit on the sideline after he 2288 01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,240 Speaker 1: left the game time to show people I can play. 2289 01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,240 Speaker 1: I like that about him. I thought that's encouraging. He 2290 01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,439 Speaker 1: didn't sult or anything. Do you think he sulked or anything. 2291 01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:26,400 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Didn't single like. He didn't pull 2292 01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:28,560 Speaker 1: a Jay Cutler and disengage at all. Oh No, I 2293 01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:31,720 Speaker 1: didn't see that at all. Um. I think he was. 2294 01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,960 Speaker 1: I think he uh. I think he was bummed. Yeah, 2295 01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:36,599 Speaker 1: I think he was want to jump back and coming. 2296 01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,639 Speaker 1: He I don't know if he's ever been pulled out 2297 01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:40,680 Speaker 1: of the game, you know what I mean? Yeah, Well, 2298 01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:42,600 Speaker 1: think about this. He gets hurt, gets banged, and he 2299 01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,040 Speaker 1: stays in for another play, and he made a throw 2300 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:47,880 Speaker 1: and it hurt him. Yeah, he had to bend on 2301 01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:49,800 Speaker 1: and that's when he said it. He sat down. But 2302 01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,320 Speaker 1: that had to hurt before that last throw, right when 2303 01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,920 Speaker 1: it hurt before. Yeah, it hurt when it happened. Yeah. Uh, 2304 01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:57,479 Speaker 1: and he got up seeing I mean the people on 2305 01:52:57,600 --> 01:52:59,519 Speaker 1: MST are seeing what happened. Was between throw, he's kind 2306 01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:01,679 Speaker 1: of letting his him dangling and flex it a little 2307 01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:04,200 Speaker 1: bit and he had. The official probably asked, hey you okay, 2308 01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,680 Speaker 1: asked him about his head, and he says, no, it's 2309 01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:09,680 Speaker 1: my arm, not my head. And it was it was 2310 01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,280 Speaker 1: merciless coming in from the left. Everybody said, oh, he 2311 01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,160 Speaker 1: got hit in the chest. Well that wasn't what hurt him. 2312 01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:17,120 Speaker 1: Was merciless coming in hitting him on his throwing arm, 2313 01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,120 Speaker 1: and he came in through one more incompletion and then 2314 01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:24,080 Speaker 1: that hurt him bad. And uh, that's that's when he 2315 01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,800 Speaker 1: had had to come out of the game. Yeah, let's 2316 01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,479 Speaker 1: take you call here from Zach. Zach, go ahead, you're 2317 01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:32,160 Speaker 1: on the air with us. Hey, father, that's how are 2318 01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:37,360 Speaker 1: you doing good? I'm to stay out a team, Yes, 2319 01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:42,559 Speaker 1: I is. Um, they're gonna have to let do go. Um. 2320 01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:45,559 Speaker 1: I was a fan. I liked him as a matter 2321 01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:48,080 Speaker 1: of fact. Yesterday when he came into the game, he 2322 01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:50,840 Speaker 1: looked pretty good for a quick minute. He threw that 2323 01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:55,439 Speaker 1: nice pass to say Jones, but then the roof came 2324 01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,559 Speaker 1: in with that pass for the interception. He really crossed 2325 01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:01,439 Speaker 1: us that game on that pay Well, here's the thing, Zach, 2326 01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:03,400 Speaker 1: and I get what you're saying about him being on 2327 01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:08,280 Speaker 1: the team. You listen, you got Zach Josh Allen who 2328 01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:12,120 Speaker 1: may not be one hundred percent healthy. So you're gonna 2329 01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,920 Speaker 1: go into the game and presumably start somebody other than 2330 01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:18,120 Speaker 1: Josh Allen if Alan can't go, and then you can't 2331 01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:22,080 Speaker 1: afford really to letting Nate Peterman go because you need 2332 01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:25,360 Speaker 1: a body, somebody to take snaps, and as distasteful as 2333 01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:27,920 Speaker 1: it sounds, it may have to be Nate Peterman depending 2334 01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,200 Speaker 1: on Derek Anderson and his ability to get ready for 2335 01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:33,400 Speaker 1: a game. And even if that happens, if Derek Anderson 2336 01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:36,440 Speaker 1: gets his elbow hit, you're back to Nate Peterman again. 2337 01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:38,160 Speaker 1: But at least you've got a guy that can take snaps. 2338 01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I know how distasteful that sounds, but you 2339 01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,360 Speaker 1: can't cut your third quarterback when you need too to 2340 01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,280 Speaker 1: go into a game and not having two available if 2341 01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:49,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, indeed is his injury keeps him out for 2342 01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,000 Speaker 1: a week or two weeks or six weeks or whatever. 2343 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,920 Speaker 1: So I get the fact that you're going, why how's 2344 01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:56,440 Speaker 1: the guy still on the team while he's still on 2345 01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,400 Speaker 1: the team, because he may be the last guy standing healthy. Yeah, 2346 01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:02,120 Speaker 1: these aren't United moves either, right, They don't release people 2347 01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:05,400 Speaker 1: say you're punished because you threw that interception. Though they'll 2348 01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:08,680 Speaker 1: make it's a cumulus, it's not. They don't cut guys 2349 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:13,040 Speaker 1: because they react, right, They cut guys because of where 2350 01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:15,480 Speaker 1: the team's evolving to where they're going. Yeah, all right, 2351 01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We'll pick this up again 2352 01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:20,600 Speaker 1: when we return, if Josh Allen is healthy. Sunday, who 2353 01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:22,560 Speaker 1: do the Bills start a quarterback against the Colts. We 2354 01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:24,800 Speaker 1: got phone lines open for you eight oh three oh 2355 01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,400 Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five 2356 01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,520 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty plus NFL true and false when 2357 01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,000 Speaker 1: we return. One Bill's Lide from One Bill's Drive on 2358 01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:47,920 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. One Bill's Lide from One Bill's Drive, 2359 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,560 Speaker 1: John Murphy's Deep Tasker here for another half hour or so, 2360 01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:53,440 Speaker 1: willing and ready and able to take your phone calls. 2361 01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,920 Speaker 1: The three five fifty and toll free one eight eight 2362 01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,440 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. So you spend so 2363 01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,200 Speaker 1: much time today talking about the quarter backs, justifiably in 2364 01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:04,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback dilemma facing the Buffalo Bills. But I do 2365 01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:08,480 Speaker 1: think we've given short shrift to how well the defense 2366 01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,520 Speaker 1: played yesterday. We mentioned it early, but I mean they 2367 01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:15,120 Speaker 1: played lights out yesterday through the entire game. You know 2368 01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:19,080 Speaker 1: the seven sacks. Yes, Watson had been sacked a lot, 2369 01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:24,960 Speaker 1: but seven sacks, takeaways, goal line stands. What do you 2370 01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:26,800 Speaker 1: want from your defense? You've got it all yesterday from 2371 01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,200 Speaker 1: the Buffalo defense. They were sensational, yester, Let me just go, 2372 01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:32,040 Speaker 1: let me just breathe through their defensive rankings for these 2373 01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:37,800 Speaker 1: different categories. Yards per game their third in the league. 2374 01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:41,360 Speaker 1: Yards per play their third in the league. Yards rushing 2375 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:44,560 Speaker 1: per game their eighth in the league. Yards rushing per 2376 01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:47,480 Speaker 1: play seventh in the league. Passing yards per game they're 2377 01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,280 Speaker 1: sixth in the league. Passing yards per play their third 2378 01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:54,000 Speaker 1: in the league. Sacks per pass attempt their number seven 2379 01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:58,640 Speaker 1: in the league. They are getting it done, absolutely they are. 2380 01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:01,320 Speaker 1: They are really and there an elite defense right now 2381 01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:04,360 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. They do their NFL does 2382 01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:07,520 Speaker 1: the rankings by yards giving up, So forget about points 2383 01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:10,800 Speaker 1: giving up and turnover and all that stuff. They are 2384 01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:13,560 Speaker 1: number three in the league, and yards giving up their 2385 01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:16,000 Speaker 1: number three in the league. Also in yards per play 2386 01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,400 Speaker 1: and passing yards per play their number six, and passing 2387 01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,000 Speaker 1: yards a game. You can't they're having. People are having 2388 01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:25,680 Speaker 1: trouble moving the football on them, and the way they're 2389 01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:29,720 Speaker 1: churning out turnovers is a huge boost as well that. 2390 01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how you play elite defense, and they are. 2391 01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:37,320 Speaker 1: They are getting it done on every level front linebackers 2392 01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:41,760 Speaker 1: and their secondary and the way they played yesterday was phenomenal. 2393 01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:44,920 Speaker 1: And if they you know, obviously, the good thing about 2394 01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:47,520 Speaker 1: this whole scenario, Murphis, isn't this, I guess is what 2395 01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm chirping about all day today. When they're playing like that, 2396 01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:55,040 Speaker 1: the Bills can win every game. Absolutely, the Bills can 2397 01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:58,120 Speaker 1: win every single game they're in. When your defense plays 2398 01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:01,000 Speaker 1: like that, I don't care who's playing quarterback. And that's 2399 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:03,720 Speaker 1: that's the good thing about where the Bills are at 2400 01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,040 Speaker 1: right now. And the sad thing about the discouraging thing 2401 01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:07,680 Speaker 1: is that you know, they waste an effort like they 2402 01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:09,920 Speaker 1: did yesterday, where you had the game in your hand 2403 01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:12,880 Speaker 1: with you know, with four minutes to go and you 2404 01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:19,720 Speaker 1: couldn't win it. And or also the offense was unproductive 2405 01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:24,000 Speaker 1: and your special teams are counterproductive towards it, and your 2406 01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:26,640 Speaker 1: offense is a little bit like that too, when they 2407 01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:28,560 Speaker 1: when they're get can't get out of their own way 2408 01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:31,600 Speaker 1: with formations and penalties, So everybody else on the team 2409 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:34,200 Speaker 1: is kind of at least tread and water, maybe maybe 2410 01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:37,040 Speaker 1: dumping water from the ocean into the boat. You know 2411 01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:40,680 Speaker 1: that the defense is trying to keep afloat, so that 2412 01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:42,800 Speaker 1: The good thing about it, though, is when they're playing 2413 01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,920 Speaker 1: like they are, Man, oh man, you're you're gonna be 2414 01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:48,120 Speaker 1: in a lot of one score games with a chance 2415 01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:51,120 Speaker 1: to win it. You were on the sidelines yesterday. Did 2416 01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:54,520 Speaker 1: watch Baltimore's defense shutout Tennessee twenty one? The Nathina eleven Sacks. 2417 01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:56,800 Speaker 1: Ravens are ranked number one in the league of the 2418 01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars are ranked number two defensively, the Bills are three. 2419 01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:01,560 Speaker 1: Who's the best of that group? Do you think is 2420 01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:04,360 Speaker 1: it Baltimore better defense in Buffalo through the first six 2421 01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:07,920 Speaker 1: games this season? Boy, I don't know. It's close call, 2422 01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:12,680 Speaker 1: because um I think I don't. I can't remember the 2423 01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:16,160 Speaker 1: let me, I can't remember the games that the the 2424 01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:19,120 Speaker 1: Ravens lost. I mean, they're you're sitting here there four 2425 01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:24,800 Speaker 1: and two. I don't think they've had games against a 2426 01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:30,880 Speaker 1: team like Buffalo had against um like like the Ravens 2427 01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:33,600 Speaker 1: defense had against Buffalo, you know, I mean the Ravens 2428 01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:37,360 Speaker 1: defense was against Buffalo offense, and Buffalo I don't think 2429 01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:41,200 Speaker 1: has played an offense as poor as what Buffalo's offense 2430 01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,800 Speaker 1: has been for the teams they've played, you know, So 2431 01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:46,320 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens have a game against the Buffalo offense, 2432 01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:52,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo's I mean, they played Philip Rivers, they played Aaron Rodgers, 2433 01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:57,400 Speaker 1: they played Joe Flacco and who was the fourth one 2434 01:59:57,440 --> 02:00:02,520 Speaker 1: of those first four, yea Kirk Cousins. The Ravens haven't 2435 02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:04,600 Speaker 1: played a stretch of quarterbacks like that. Now. They did 2436 02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:09,880 Speaker 1: play Ben Roethlisberger. Uh, they played Marcus Mariota, they played um, 2437 02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I just don't. I just don't 2438 02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:20,280 Speaker 1: think the offense is that the Baltimore Ravens have faced. Yeah, 2439 02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:22,960 Speaker 1: I think they're I don't know if they're as as 2440 02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, like the Bills offenses that they faced. I 2441 02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:29,240 Speaker 1: think the Bills are playing better against better defenses. They 2442 02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:31,680 Speaker 1: faced some good quarterbacks. Yeah, they played some good quarterbacks. 2443 02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:33,520 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting and over the course of 2444 02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,680 Speaker 1: the sixteen weeks, Hey, listen, we're gonna find out who 2445 02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:38,840 Speaker 1: it is. And the Bills, I think, to their credit, 2446 02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:42,280 Speaker 1: got healthier this last week and it showed in their 2447 02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:46,839 Speaker 1: secondary they were much healthier. Shack Lawson got a sack yesterday. 2448 02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:50,160 Speaker 1: So and I think Jordan Phillips has given them a 2449 02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:54,160 Speaker 1: little energy. Yeah. Absolutely, So they're getting better. And so 2450 02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really and that's why I was kind of 2451 02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:59,720 Speaker 1: encouraged by this loss yesterday. Defense is encouraging, no question. 2452 02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:02,200 Speaker 1: We're talking to you about the quarterback though. If Josh 2453 02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:04,960 Speaker 1: Allen is healthy, who should play the Sunday? What do 2454 02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,120 Speaker 1: you think? Eight h three five fifty toll free one 2455 02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:10,160 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty Keith and West 2456 02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:15,080 Speaker 1: Seneca Go ahead, Keith around the air, you go ahead, Keith? 2457 02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Uh, Steve, I want to see one that 2458 02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:19,720 Speaker 1: I hope you get in the Hall of Fame, buddy. 2459 02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:24,160 Speaker 1: But there's a Josh if he was If het not 2460 02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:27,160 Speaker 1: ready to play, don't play him. Uh. He's our fan 2461 02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:30,160 Speaker 1: tick quarterback. You don't get him killed. That's just the 2462 02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:32,320 Speaker 1: way it's going to be, right, I think. Yeah, And 2463 02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:35,080 Speaker 1: what Keith you're telling I agree with you. If he's 2464 02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:36,800 Speaker 1: not ready to play, give him a chance to sit 2465 02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:39,760 Speaker 1: down and rest it. Um. Well, if he's healthy, what 2466 02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:42,240 Speaker 1: do you think, Keith? Oh, I'm sorry, we just lost. Okay, 2467 02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:45,240 Speaker 1: all right, So that's the thing about it. I think 2468 02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:47,080 Speaker 1: we all kind of sit in the same page. I'm 2469 02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:50,200 Speaker 1: not ready to bail out on him yet. Um, certainly 2470 02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:52,560 Speaker 1: he could play better, and certainly you'd like to see 2471 02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:54,760 Speaker 1: him on a lot of these players. You say, whoa, whoa, 2472 02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:57,480 Speaker 1: take a deep breath, yea, and go through your progressions. 2473 02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:00,920 Speaker 1: Trust your offensive line a little bit because they're playing 2474 02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:04,720 Speaker 1: a little better. They played I think, surprisingly well against 2475 02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:10,360 Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney and Merciless and JJ Watt, So I think 2476 02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,120 Speaker 1: you gotta start trusting them a little bit and know 2477 02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:14,560 Speaker 1: that it's gonna feel uncomfortable in there at times with 2478 02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:16,400 Speaker 1: those guys closing in around you, but you got to 2479 02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:18,400 Speaker 1: give your receivers a chance, and you know on the 2480 02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:22,000 Speaker 1: outside they've got to play better too. But I think 2481 02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:24,080 Speaker 1: if you can sit there and sit down with them, 2482 02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:26,520 Speaker 1: say hey, come on, just take a deep breath, relax, 2483 02:02:26,560 --> 02:02:28,360 Speaker 1: show a little patience in the pocket, and get that 2484 02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:32,000 Speaker 1: release out of there, get the ball out on time. Yeah, 2485 02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:34,120 Speaker 1: I'd like to see more of that. And I know 2486 02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:36,360 Speaker 1: that's what those guys. They're coaching them up hard on 2487 02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:38,040 Speaker 1: all of that stuff that we've been talking about. You're 2488 02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:39,760 Speaker 1: gonna take a break right here. We'll be back at 2489 02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:41,120 Speaker 1: the moment to wrap things up, to get a few 2490 02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:43,680 Speaker 1: more phone calls in One Bill's Live from One Bill's Driving. 2491 02:02:43,760 --> 02:03:04,400 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned from 2492 02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:07,720 Speaker 1: today's show? Presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's 2493 02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:11,000 Speaker 1: homes and businesses with the finance and Security at Home Theater, 2494 02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:13,720 Speaker 1: the preferred Alarm at Home Theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. 2495 02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:15,240 Speaker 1: What have we learned? We had Dan Orlovsky on the 2496 02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:18,720 Speaker 1: show with us early on at twelve thirty, twelve year 2497 02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:21,720 Speaker 1: veteran NFL quarterback now at the NFL analysts for ESPN. 2498 02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:23,920 Speaker 1: You know, people talk about Josh Allen and keep them 2499 02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:25,200 Speaker 1: in there, you might ruin them. And I asked dan 2500 02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:27,160 Speaker 1: Ard Lafsky, what does it mean when people say you 2501 02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:29,040 Speaker 1: ruin a quarterback? How do you do that? Here's what 2502 02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:32,800 Speaker 1: he had to say. You're putting a guy out there, 2503 02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:35,280 Speaker 1: and he's abbing all these failures, right, and so at 2504 02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:38,280 Speaker 1: some point, you know, there could be this little thing 2505 02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:40,720 Speaker 1: called doubt, self doult that could start to creep in. 2506 02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not ready for it, Maybe this game is 2507 02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:46,200 Speaker 1: too big maybe what people say is true, and you 2508 02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:49,280 Speaker 1: hope that copy paste, but we see it all the time. 2509 02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:52,600 Speaker 1: You start seeing things that aren't there, and you start 2510 02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:56,000 Speaker 1: not trusting what's around you, and you start trying to 2511 02:03:56,080 --> 02:03:58,320 Speaker 1: be somebody or do things that you shouldn't be trying 2512 02:03:58,360 --> 02:04:00,320 Speaker 1: to do, and then all of them good. You get 2513 02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:03,800 Speaker 1: this guy that you know becomes the sell of themselves 2514 02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:05,440 Speaker 1: over time, and then all of a sun of this 2515 02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:08,920 Speaker 1: guy's escaping the pockets too early, sowing the ball too early, 2516 02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:11,920 Speaker 1: not seeing defenders could be still concerned with the rush. 2517 02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:15,240 Speaker 1: We see it every year that more young quarterbacks the 2518 02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:19,480 Speaker 1: NFL are rude than they are made. Interesting talks from 2519 02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:21,800 Speaker 1: Dan Alasco. I'll talk with Steve about that at a moment. Also, 2520 02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:24,640 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Bills insider Buffalo bills dot Com, joined us today. 2521 02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:27,440 Speaker 1: We asked him, if Josh Allen is healthy, who the 2522 02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Bill should start at quarterback to Sunday in Indianapolis. I 2523 02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:35,640 Speaker 1: think you have to turn to Derek provided there is 2524 02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:39,440 Speaker 1: enough of the offensive playbook that he has mastered where 2525 02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:42,400 Speaker 1: you can put together a scale down game plan for 2526 02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:44,640 Speaker 1: him to execute for you on Sunday. I think you 2527 02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:48,680 Speaker 1: have to turn to that right now. I think Josh 2528 02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:53,560 Speaker 1: needs to get a different perspective of the game from 2529 02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:57,440 Speaker 1: the sidelines, listening with the year piece to how Derek 2530 02:04:57,640 --> 02:05:01,440 Speaker 1: is interacting with the coaching staff, how he's executing plays, 2531 02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:09,280 Speaker 1: and gain some knowledge from that. Chris Brown saying he 2532 02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,360 Speaker 1: would turn to Derek Anderson, I think we both disagree. 2533 02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:13,640 Speaker 1: If Josh is healthy, I'd stayed with him, right, yeah, yeah. 2534 02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:16,840 Speaker 1: But Orlovsky's comment Steve about and I asked him a question, 2535 02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:18,200 Speaker 1: what does it mean when we say you can't you 2536 02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:20,040 Speaker 1: don't want to ruin a quarterback? I thought it's a 2537 02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:23,120 Speaker 1: really good answer, and I don't. Here's here's part of 2538 02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:25,840 Speaker 1: where I get to the Josh Allen think. I don't 2539 02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:27,920 Speaker 1: see all those signs yet. And Josh Allen, I don't 2540 02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:31,320 Speaker 1: think he's he's seeing ghosts or doubting himself. I'm sure 2541 02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:33,600 Speaker 1: there's a little bit more than anything. I see him 2542 02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:36,640 Speaker 1: not taking time, and I think talk about that third 2543 02:05:36,720 --> 02:05:39,560 Speaker 1: quarter short series when he ran pulled it and ran 2544 02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:42,040 Speaker 1: a little bit too early. I see him not taking 2545 02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:44,640 Speaker 1: a good long lookdown field, not standing in there forcing 2546 02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:46,920 Speaker 1: himself to make a throw downfield, just electing to run. 2547 02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:49,040 Speaker 1: That worries me a little bit. But if he's healthy, 2548 02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:51,760 Speaker 1: I'd say keep going full speed ahead. Let's great. Yeah, 2549 02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:53,400 Speaker 1: if he's healthy, to put him back in there, because 2550 02:05:53,400 --> 02:05:55,480 Speaker 1: I think, let's, let's face it, we've seen it in 2551 02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:59,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, and I have some some confidence in this 2552 02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:01,920 Speaker 1: group here and Buffalo, this coaching group here in Buffalo, 2553 02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:03,960 Speaker 1: they're going to handle him the right way. They're gonna 2554 02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:06,080 Speaker 1: build him up and make sure he's got enough weapons 2555 02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:09,200 Speaker 1: and enough tools and enough coaching to where he feels 2556 02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:11,520 Speaker 1: confident in his game plan. They're gonna get him through 2557 02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:13,480 Speaker 1: any rough patch. And let's face it, this is a 2558 02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:15,880 Speaker 1: rough patch. Oh yeah, getting nicked up in a game 2559 02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:17,920 Speaker 1: where he didn't play well, having to be benched, having 2560 02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:20,480 Speaker 1: the other guy come in throw a touchdown, then lose it. Ultimately, 2561 02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:23,080 Speaker 1: all this stuff's going on, and knowing that you know 2562 02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,040 Speaker 1: what you've got, you've got a chance. If you're healthy, 2563 02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:27,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna be stepping back in that huddle with a 2564 02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:29,760 Speaker 1: defense that's good enough to win with. And all you 2565 02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:32,320 Speaker 1: gotta do is make some think something out of nothing. 2566 02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:37,280 Speaker 1: I think this group is going to get more out 2567 02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:39,200 Speaker 1: of him, and I think I have a lot of 2568 02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:41,160 Speaker 1: confidence they're going to handle this the right way. There's 2569 02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:44,560 Speaker 1: no question Josh Allen's got a lot of football to play, 2570 02:06:45,080 --> 02:06:47,360 Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna keep giving him the opportunity 2571 02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:49,000 Speaker 1: as long as he's physically able to do it, and 2572 02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:50,800 Speaker 1: I think it's the right move. Before we get to 2573 02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:52,840 Speaker 1: a couple of more phone calls, let's get to NFL 2574 02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:56,000 Speaker 1: True and False, brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New 2575 02:06:56,080 --> 02:06:58,640 Speaker 1: York's Artistan Cheese. A couple of NFL issues we want 2576 02:06:58,640 --> 02:07:01,560 Speaker 1: to discuss, and I gotta say I can't believe some 2577 02:07:01,640 --> 02:07:05,600 Speaker 1: of these. That the first one is ultimately false. NFL 2578 02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:08,400 Speaker 1: true or false it is, I'll be the judges. This 2579 02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:11,760 Speaker 1: is an article in the New Jersey dot Com today, 2580 02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:14,480 Speaker 1: So get ready for this. The Jets are a sneaky 2581 02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:19,320 Speaker 1: playoff caliber team, the New York Jets. False, absolutely false. 2582 02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:22,280 Speaker 1: They're three and three and impressive, whenever the Colts yesterday. 2583 02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:25,000 Speaker 1: They're three and three, They're not five and one. The 2584 02:07:25,120 --> 02:07:28,920 Speaker 1: Jets are nowhere near as a decent playoff caliber team. False. Yeah, 2585 02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:31,280 Speaker 1: I'd say false. At this point we say it again. False, Yeah, 2586 02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:35,320 Speaker 1: I'd say I'd say that's uh, that's I agree with that. 2587 02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:38,760 Speaker 1: That they're the AFC. I mean they're way down their 2588 02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:41,600 Speaker 1: number eleven in the AFC let alone, you know, the 2589 02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:44,480 Speaker 1: whole kit and kaboodle. So they're not They're not anywhere 2590 02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:47,320 Speaker 1: near it. You've got a bunch of teams playing better 2591 02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:51,040 Speaker 1: than they are, and you've got I don't know, I 2592 02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:53,160 Speaker 1: just I just don't see it. I'm with you, Murph. 2593 02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:55,280 Speaker 1: I think that's false. I think there's no question Sam 2594 02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:57,200 Speaker 1: Darnold has been impressive. I think he shows a lot 2595 02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:59,360 Speaker 1: of promise there. I think the Jets have got some 2596 02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:02,360 Speaker 1: pretty good guys around him, particularly outside, with some speed 2597 02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:06,280 Speaker 1: guys that he's using, and they're having some success. But 2598 02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:09,400 Speaker 1: I think it goes I think they're they're far from 2599 02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:11,280 Speaker 1: being one of the elite teams in the AFC and 2600 02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:14,080 Speaker 1: even a sneaky dark horse playoff team. True or false. 2601 02:08:14,360 --> 02:08:17,480 Speaker 1: Number two, The Steelers do not need Levion Bell to 2602 02:08:17,600 --> 02:08:20,680 Speaker 1: win the AFC North. I don't know if they're gonna 2603 02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:23,320 Speaker 1: win the division, but I would say that's true. They 2604 02:08:23,400 --> 02:08:25,280 Speaker 1: might not. He might not make that much of a difference. 2605 02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:27,280 Speaker 1: I think you're you're a big Ravens fan. All of 2606 02:08:27,320 --> 02:08:29,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, the Ravens look like the guys who might 2607 02:08:29,080 --> 02:08:30,760 Speaker 1: win it. I think it's true. I think the Steelers 2608 02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:32,400 Speaker 1: and they may have something. They're gonna have something to 2609 02:08:32,440 --> 02:08:34,200 Speaker 1: say about who wins the North, no question about it. 2610 02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:36,640 Speaker 1: They got a lot of games left. But Connor's doing 2611 02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:40,600 Speaker 1: just fine. In fact, at this point last year, Connor 2612 02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:43,240 Speaker 1: has more Fantasy points and has had a better individual 2613 02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:45,840 Speaker 1: season than Levion Bell did last year. Now, granted, Levion 2614 02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:47,520 Speaker 1: Bell came in late and took him a while to 2615 02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:49,960 Speaker 1: get up and running, but I looked at the numbers. 2616 02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:52,920 Speaker 1: They didn't take him that long. They gave him one. 2617 02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:55,280 Speaker 1: They had one game where he had like six carries 2618 02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:56,840 Speaker 1: or eight carries, and then the rest of the time 2619 02:08:56,920 --> 02:09:00,520 Speaker 1: they were handing him the ball. Connor has come in 2620 02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:03,600 Speaker 1: and played extremely well. And I don't think there's any 2621 02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:07,240 Speaker 1: question that the Steelers can win as many games with 2622 02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:09,720 Speaker 1: Connor as they can with Levon Bell. You can, you know, 2623 02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:12,400 Speaker 1: I know people are gonna go crazy over me saying 2624 02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:16,800 Speaker 1: that I'll stick by it. I think Connor can play 2625 02:09:16,840 --> 02:09:18,400 Speaker 1: well enough for the Steelers to be as good as 2626 02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:21,080 Speaker 1: they want to be. And finally, NFL Tourer false Adam 2627 02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Feeling Minnesota Vikings is the NFL's best wide receiver. No, 2628 02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:29,480 Speaker 1: that's false. The reason this is discussed in a Pro 2629 02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:32,200 Speaker 1: Football Talk article, is that he's on pace to shatter 2630 02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:35,240 Speaker 1: the league record for most catches in the season. Fifty 2631 02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:37,840 Speaker 1: eight catches through six games puts them on pace for 2632 02:09:37,880 --> 02:09:41,879 Speaker 1: one under fifty four catches, which would shatter Marvin Harrison's 2633 02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:45,160 Speaker 1: single season reception record. So what, he's not the NFL's 2634 02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:47,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver. He might not make the He probably not 2635 02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:50,240 Speaker 1: top fifteen in the NFL's best wide receivers. He no, 2636 02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:52,360 Speaker 1: we saw him against Buffalo. Racked up a ton of 2637 02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:54,440 Speaker 1: catches against the Bills that had nothing to do with 2638 02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:56,960 Speaker 1: the game. He nothing to offer. Listen, he may be 2639 02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:59,640 Speaker 1: one of the most productive this season, no question. Adman 2640 02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:01,320 Speaker 1: used to But I'll tell you what if you line 2641 02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:03,400 Speaker 1: him up with you can you know a handful of 2642 02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:06,040 Speaker 1: other guys in the league. He's not going to be 2643 02:10:06,080 --> 02:10:11,200 Speaker 1: the one you take aj Green, Julio Jones. Yes, you 2644 02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:14,360 Speaker 1: know you can get DeAndre Hopkins yesterday that you saw 2645 02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:18,920 Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu. Yeah, even guys like that. You know, there's 2646 02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:20,480 Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the league that you would 2647 02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:24,600 Speaker 1: take before you would take Adam Feeling. But you can't 2648 02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:27,200 Speaker 1: sneeze at what he's done. He's helping his team. He's 2649 02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:31,760 Speaker 1: getting a lot of catches, he's productive, but he gets 2650 02:10:32,040 --> 02:10:35,280 Speaker 1: a ton of targets. Yeah, and a lot of guys, 2651 02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:38,200 Speaker 1: would you know, break somebody's legs to get the amount 2652 02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:40,520 Speaker 1: of targets that Theeland gets. Let's get back to a 2653 02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:43,040 Speaker 1: couple of phone calls answering our question of the day. 2654 02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:46,120 Speaker 1: If Josh Allen is healthy, who did the Bills start 2655 02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:49,800 Speaker 1: on Sunday at Indianapolis. Let's go to Irving Buffalo. I IRV, 2656 02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:54,880 Speaker 1: you are on the air with us. Hey, all right, hi, yuh. 2657 02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:59,920 Speaker 1: We all know that's the special teams and the offense, 2658 02:11:00,520 --> 02:11:02,320 Speaker 1: lay the egg and go the game for the Bill. 2659 02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Everybody in the world old no that Peterman can't play 2660 02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:12,680 Speaker 1: quarterback except for our coach and being the general manager. 2661 02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:16,560 Speaker 1: Everybody knows this. Okay. With that being said, I'm not 2662 02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:20,440 Speaker 1: gonna let Leslie Fraser off the hook. When Peterman came 2663 02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:24,600 Speaker 1: in and threw that touchdown pass, it was all good. 2664 02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:27,160 Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna get a win. And the 2665 02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:32,880 Speaker 1: defense came out before the first half, I mean the 2666 02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:36,400 Speaker 1: second half. We came out. We were sending cornerbacks, we 2667 02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:39,280 Speaker 1: were sending linebackers, we were sending the safeties and all 2668 02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:41,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we'd wait to the last drive, and 2669 02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:44,920 Speaker 1: then he dropped seven and rush four. Now, I know 2670 02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:47,920 Speaker 1: the defense played a heck of a game, but I 2671 02:11:48,120 --> 02:11:53,720 Speaker 1: just can't understand why you're your defensive coordinator, take the break, 2672 02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:56,000 Speaker 1: take the chack, take us foot off the gas. That's 2673 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:57,840 Speaker 1: where he did, and we should have kept wits, and 2674 02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:00,360 Speaker 1: I think we would have won that game. Yea so much. 2675 02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:01,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I don't I don't know if I 2676 02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:03,840 Speaker 1: don't know if I would have. I didn't notice that 2677 02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:06,760 Speaker 1: what you notice about them rushing a different number of people. 2678 02:12:06,840 --> 02:12:08,680 Speaker 1: Certainly they do bring pressure once in a while. I 2679 02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:11,760 Speaker 1: didn't notice a huge game plan change. What I noticed 2680 02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:13,560 Speaker 1: was they got a forty one yard or forty two 2681 02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:16,120 Speaker 1: yard pass interference call on that drive that allowed the 2682 02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:18,400 Speaker 1: Texans to move down the field. And that was really 2683 02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:20,600 Speaker 1: the thing that changed it. It wasn't so much the 2684 02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:23,360 Speaker 1: rush patter, at least I didn't think it was a 2685 02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:25,960 Speaker 1: number of guys rushing and the fact that they changed 2686 02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:29,080 Speaker 1: something philosophically. In fact, I would I'd be shocked if 2687 02:12:29,120 --> 02:12:31,120 Speaker 1: that was the case. I think they got helped by 2688 02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:33,160 Speaker 1: a big time penalty. Now, Murph and I both say 2689 02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:35,640 Speaker 1: it was a good call, but I don't think it 2690 02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:41,520 Speaker 1: was any philosophical difference in defense calling from Leslie Frasier 2691 02:12:41,640 --> 02:12:45,080 Speaker 1: that made the difference. Now, and they don't. They don't. 2692 02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:47,720 Speaker 1: They're not a heavy blitz team anyway, you know, they 2693 02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:50,520 Speaker 1: just don't. They don't. They're one of the least likely 2694 02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:52,720 Speaker 1: teams in the league to blitz. Here's one more call 2695 02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:54,480 Speaker 1: from Doug and Amherst. Doug, go ahead, you're on the 2696 02:12:54,520 --> 02:12:59,560 Speaker 1: air with us. Oh Man. I think that Josh Allen 2697 02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:04,920 Speaker 1: is great, great quarterback to become. And I think that 2698 02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:11,040 Speaker 1: m de campisons if he's healthy, Josh, Johnsy Derek Anderson 2699 02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:16,960 Speaker 1: should start. But I think Steve, I mean McDermott and 2700 02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:22,400 Speaker 1: the general manager and the assocordinars sit down Allen and 2701 02:13:22,520 --> 02:13:25,120 Speaker 1: a couple of teammate captains and say, hey, you're our guy. 2702 02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:28,640 Speaker 1: We need you. Just have confidence, you're good, you're great, 2703 02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:30,920 Speaker 1: You're going to be great, and give a chance to 2704 02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:33,400 Speaker 1: heal properly and not rush him in there and trying 2705 02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:37,640 Speaker 1: to reinjure it. Yeah. Yeah, I think I agree with that. Dog. 2706 02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:39,120 Speaker 1: If he's not going to play, you got to make 2707 02:13:39,160 --> 02:13:41,520 Speaker 1: sure he knows he's doing it, because he's injury because 2708 02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:44,240 Speaker 1: and he's got to know that you've got faith in 2709 02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:47,560 Speaker 1: his future, um, and that you see how hard he's working, 2710 02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:50,240 Speaker 1: and that he's making some strides at least in practice. 2711 02:13:51,120 --> 02:13:52,240 Speaker 1: And it's going to be a little bit of a 2712 02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:54,280 Speaker 1: roller coaster. We are going to see some games like 2713 02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:56,840 Speaker 1: this one where and you know where it seemingly he 2714 02:13:56,920 --> 02:13:59,640 Speaker 1: took a step backwards instead of the stepped forwards. So 2715 02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:02,080 Speaker 1: got to be willing to live with that. The old 2716 02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:05,360 Speaker 1: saying is growing pains, you know, and it's painful. Yesterday 2717 02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:07,560 Speaker 1: it was pretty painful for everybody. That's a game that 2718 02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:11,320 Speaker 1: is it's hard to it's hard to live like that 2719 02:14:11,520 --> 02:14:12,920 Speaker 1: when you know it's a game you should have won. 2720 02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:14,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the bottom line of this one. Thanks 2721 02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:16,160 Speaker 1: for your call, Thanks all of you who have called. 2722 02:14:16,160 --> 02:14:17,960 Speaker 1: We're back tomorrow at twelve noon. 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