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It wasn't even that close up two games 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: to none tonight Nets Bucks Game three, Clippers Jazz Game two. 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Following the loss last night, the Nuggets head coach Michael 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: Malone said his team quit. They've had their way with 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: us on both ends of the court. I felt we 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: quit tonight, which is something you never want to see. 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: So I guess for Game three, I'm just gonna try 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: to find guys that will at least go out there 27 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: and leave it all on the line. I may have 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: a hard time coming up with five guys that filled that. 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: But these two games, these second halfs, have really been disappointing. 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: And that's an understatement. Coach, Can you name the names 31 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: of everybody who quit? Did the entire team quit? Tell 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: me who didn't quit last night? The worst thing you 33 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: can ever say about an athlete is you quit. Michael 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Malone is not Bill Belichick, he's not Phil Jackson, he's 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: not pat Riley. They got rings, Michael Malone. Don't call 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: him Mike calling out his team. Maybe they respond. Maybe 37 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: he should understand. Two, the Phoenix Suns are a better team. 38 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: They're a whole lot healthier than the Nuggets are. Did 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: the MVP quit last night? Did the joker quit last night? 40 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: Or was he the guy who didn't quit? And can't 41 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: you say this to your team in the locker room? 42 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: And now I know Michael Malone was saying, hey, you 43 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: know include me in this. Did he quit? How did 44 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: he quit? Like? At what point did you quit coaching? 45 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: I just don't understand this now. Do I like that 46 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: we get all this information? Do I like that it's 47 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: full disclosure? Do I like that they're going to say 48 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: something in front of the media. Yeah? It makes my 49 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: job easier. But I don't play for the Nuggets. If 50 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: I played for the Nuggets, I would have been livid 51 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: with my coach. You want to say something to us, 52 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: you say something to us as a team. Don't do 53 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: this through the media, because then I would say, coach, 54 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: who quit? Did I quit? How about we aren't as 55 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: good as the Phoenix Suns. The Suns played extremely well. 56 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: We don't have our starting backcourt. Chris Paul was wonderful 57 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: last night. But are you telling me that Michael Porter Jr. 58 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: Who has a bad back, he quit last night? Did 59 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: the joker quit last night? I'm sure they're going to respond. 60 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll play a whole lot better in Game 61 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: three back home. But don't call out your team and 62 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: say they quit, because it starts with you. How did 63 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: you let him quit? Can't you spend this and make 64 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: it positive where you say, Look, I love that we 65 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: had guys out there who were hurt, but we were 66 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: still playing hard. When we go back home, we're going 67 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: to regroup. Here, do I need to call you out 68 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: in front of the media to then make me look 69 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: better by calling you out in front of the media. 70 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: And it felt like, you know, it was more of 71 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: a pr move here. Oh you know what, I can't. 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: I can't send a message to my team by talking 73 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: to my team. I'm going to send a message through 74 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: the media. I guess it can work. I guess the 75 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: players will be like, oh, we'll show him. We don't quit. Really, 76 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: you're just not a better team. The Phoenix Suns are 77 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: a better team. You might not. You may say, look, 78 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: we're trying to match them, and we can't. Right now, 79 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: this is a Phoenix Suns team that had a better 80 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: recor than the Nuggets during the regular season. I think 81 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: we look at the Suns and we go all those 82 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: cuddly Suns, Oh, look at them, ever the bubble Suns. Yeah, 83 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: and then we saw what happened during the regular season, 84 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: and you're watching what's happening during the postseason. Now, do 85 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: I think If the Lakers were healthy, they would have 86 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: eaten the Phoenix Suns. I do, but they weren't. Did 87 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: the Lakers quit? Did Frank Vogel come out and say, hey, 88 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: we quit? These don't like when coaches do that? And 89 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: do you see that in a movie? Just talk to 90 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: your team? How many guys, twelve thirteen guys come here? 91 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: We have to understand what's at stake here? Do I 92 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: have to tell you what's at stake here? Let's let's 93 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: be in this together. How do I gotta make adjustments? 94 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: Bear with me. We're gonna try to counter some of 95 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: the things that they did, and we're going to be 96 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: better in Game three when we go home and I 97 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: got to do my job better. Does that resonate a 98 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: little bit more with your team when you talk to 99 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 1: them as grown ups instead of going and we quit? 100 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: Play the beginning part of that again here with Michael Malone, 101 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: they've had their way with us on both ends of 102 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: the court. I felt we quit tonight, which is something 103 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: you never want to see. So I guess for Game three, 104 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try to find guys that well, at 105 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: least go out there and leave it all on the line. 106 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: I may have a hard time coming over. Okay, so 107 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: that's I don't know where you're gonna find these guys, 108 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: Like you don't look down the roster and down on 109 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: the bench and go, oh my god, did you see 110 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: who showed up? Who's going to play for us? No? 111 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: You know the roster here? But I didn't like it. 112 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: I didn't like when I heard it. But Michael Malone 113 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: knows his team obviously far better than I know the Nuggets. 114 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: I would just know that in a situation like that, 115 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: if a coach says publicly we quit, now the media 116 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: goes to you and says, did you quit? Not, You've 117 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: opened the door. I'm allowed to ask you that coach 118 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: said you quit? Hey, joker, did you quit? Who quit? 119 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: Did you notice anybody quitting out there? I don't think 120 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: you want to go down that road. Yeah, because now 121 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: the whole series is going to be Remember that time 122 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: the Nuggets quit. It's like, dang, that's yeah, it just 123 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: hangs there. Yeah, mclub, have the Bucks quit a little bit. 124 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: If you're the Bucks coach, are you thinking that, like 125 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: what do teams quit? Because there's no way the Bucks 126 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: talent wise are that far bullet by? Well, that's Okay, 127 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: there are times when you're just not good enough. Does 128 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: that mean you quit? But that doesn't seem like I 129 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: look at the rosters. This doesn't seem like times like 130 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: the Nuggets shouldn't be getting blown out? Should they? They 131 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: have the MVP, I know, but it feels like it's 132 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: one on five. Yeah, they have a bunch of scrubs 133 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: around him. That's true. It's it's just not good. It's 134 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: just not good. Like Will Barton has been out seven 135 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: weeks with a hamstring injury. He scored ten points, he 136 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: played fifteen minutes. Okay, but it feels like he's at 137 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: least trying. Michael Malone was happy with Barton's performance. He 138 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: says that it's embarrassing that a guy that hasn't been 139 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: able to play for seven weeks was out there leaving 140 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: it all on the line. I don't feel like anyone 141 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: else did. Somebody then asked the joker, did you quit? 142 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: And he says, I know, I didn't quit. He says 143 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: that maybe the Nuggets. He says he didn't feel like 144 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the Nuggets quit. Maybe they hung their heads a little 145 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: bit there. Yeah, Paul, you could look at this and 146 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: everyone talks about defense and all this stuff and quitting 147 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: and trying. The Brooklyn Nets are shooting forty four percent 148 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: from three, Milwaukee Bucks are shooting thirty percent. The math 149 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: just adds up. If you could shoot three, you're probably 150 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: gonna win. The Phoenix Suns are shooting thirty nine percent 151 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: from three, their second in the league free throw percentage. 152 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: Guess who the best teams are in free throw percentage 153 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: in the postseason? The Nets, the Clippers, the Suns, the Hawks. 154 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: You know the teams that are out. The Mavericks are out, 155 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: the Celtics are out, the Lakers are out there the 156 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: poorest free throw shooting teams. Oh, Mike Love, and you 157 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: got a pull question for me today. Yeah, so we 158 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: have a couple directions. Quick question on NBA? Is it 159 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: worse to have a lack of effort or a lack 160 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: of talent if you're a fan? Which is the worst 161 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: of the two scenarios? I I you can't create talent 162 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: like I can create effort. I think a lack of 163 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: talent that usually would be the deciding factor. Yes, but 164 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: there's nothing worse than watching a bunch of super talented 165 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: people not try guys who aren't very talented. But man, 166 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: they're working real hard. That's fun. Way, you're all right. 167 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: I could get behind these guys, but they're super talented 168 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: and they're not anything like guy, what the hell? You 169 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: guys are supposed to be awesome. But I can't teach talent. 170 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: I can teach effort. I can't teach go out there 171 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: and be great. I'm not any good. I'm trying. I'm trying. Yeah, 172 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't quit like Fritzie when he plays basketball or Marrio, 173 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: they don't they play hard. They're just not any good. Wow. Yes, time, 174 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: I agree with Seaton. If you're not living up the expectations, 175 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: that's the most frustrating thing. If I'm watching a game 176 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: or especially my favorite team, and they've got a roster 177 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: that should be going far and they're just laying eggs 178 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: because it looks like they just don't care or I 179 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: care more than them sitting in my living room. That's 180 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: far worse than just the group that we have. Isn't 181 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: that good yet? Thank you, Todd. I don't know what 182 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: it looks like when a team quits, like do they 183 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: just like drop their hands down that they try to 184 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: miss shots, They don't care, They blame each other, They 185 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: point fingers. They don't play defense, Like, what is quitting? 186 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: What does quitting look like? You're not diving on the floor. 187 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: I look, I was. I was fake hustle. I was 188 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: fake hustle. Man I was because if I just wanted 189 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: to get the coach to notice me, and I could 190 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: fake hustle like the best of them. It doesn't matter. 191 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't any good. But man I that coach knew 192 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: I was out there. I'm playing hard, coach yae. So 193 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: what's the difference between fake hustle and really hustling? Like, 194 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: if the coach is out there, if you're like putting 195 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: in all this effort to make it look like you're hustling, 196 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: why don't you just really hustle? Well, no, there are 197 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: times when you do fake hustle because I wanted When 198 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: you die for a loose ball and you know you're 199 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: not going to get the loose ball, all it is 200 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: is for basically people to see, oh my god, did 201 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: you see what that guy did? But that's it sounds 202 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: like disingenuous hustle. Yes, and I led the league and 203 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: disingenuous hustle and no chance at that I wanted to 204 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: because I didn't want to play defense, but I wanted 205 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: the coach to know that. God, I was try so hard. 206 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: Trying so hard, yes, Paul, but if that coach went 207 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: for a quick water break, you're putting your hands on 208 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: your hands. Oh, yes, Dodd. So is that like when 209 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback throws it into deception and he's like the 210 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: last man that could possibly stop this guy, I'm gonna 211 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: get touch and he kind of just gotta waves his 212 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: arm at him and throws himself to the ground, looking 213 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: like he tried to make a diving tackle. It's like 214 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: when I come into the studio every morning and then 215 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you guys start typing away, like you start acting really 216 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: busy and checking and what kind of sound Hey, can 217 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: you check with Marvin, see what kind of sounds like 218 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: papers or rod blade? All right, guys, U usually come 219 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: in at a certain time every day, and when I 220 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: hear your feet, I type really hard, and I squint 221 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: a lot, because squinting makes me you think, I'm thinking, Yeah, 222 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: I make sure there's something going on the printer. Yeah, see, 223 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: that's that's people are printed things. This is serious. And 224 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: then when you say hide me, I'm like, give me 225 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: a second. Said, yeah, I'll talk to you a man, 226 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm busy with this. That's the movie. Busy with this. 227 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: Dollars Shave Club has a great Father's Day gift set 228 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: Dollar Shape Club dot Com slash Patrick including the Dollar 229 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: Shape Club six blade razor. That's Dollar Shapeclub dot Com, 230 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: slash Hatrick mccluvin and other one. Okay, NBA, all right, 231 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: does Chris Paul need to get to the finals to 232 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: validate his career? No, He's already a Hall of Famer. 233 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean does it help? Well, what if he wants 234 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: to be like a top fifty player, like you know 235 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: that NBA list of top fifty. He seems like he 236 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: has a lot to gain here. I think if he 237 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: went to the NBA finals, then people might recognize him. 238 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: Like his body of work. He hasn't been on the 239 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: big stage. He's had the potential to be on the 240 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: big stage. But he's a Hall of Famer. He had 241 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: seventeen points, fifteen assists last night, zero turnovers. There have 242 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: been six playoff games where a player has had at 243 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: least fifteen points, fifteen assists and zero turnovers. Chris Paul 244 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: has three of those. The other ones Jason Kidd, Johnny 245 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: Moore and Magic Johnson to the day past stat of 246 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: the day, stat of the day. He comes that what 247 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: stat of the day? So once again Nets Bucks Game three, 248 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: tonight Clippers Jazz game two. Jordan Love apparently, after the 249 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: day before not looking like he could be a starter 250 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL, apparently looked great. We'll hear from Jordan 251 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Love coming up in a little bit. Also, Tom Brady apparently, 252 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: due to that knee injury that he suffered last year, 253 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: wasn't able to be Tom Brady. There were things that 254 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: it prevented him from doing, which I have no idea 255 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: what that means. But Tom got his knee scoped, and 256 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: he says now he's able to do some things he 257 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: couldn't have done before. He's not faster than me, so 258 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what this allowed him to do. But 259 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: we'll hear from Tom Brady coming up a little bit later. 260 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: On eight seven seven three d P Show Email UNDRESSDPA 261 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick dot Com Twitter handle at dp's show. We'll 262 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: take a break. It's coming up on sixteen after the hour. 263 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: This is the Dan Patrick Show. 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We'll hear from Jordan 282 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Love Is he going to be the starting quarterback for 283 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. There's a pr move going on 284 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: on both sides with Aaron Rodgers and the Packers make 285 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: no mistake about it. There are games being played. There's 286 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Jedi mind games being played here. We'll dive into that 287 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: coming up. Jeff Passon covers baseball for ESPN. He joins 288 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: us on the program, as we've been talking about spin 289 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: rate and doctoring the baseball. What's the illegal, what's cheating? 290 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: You've got players calling out players. Pete Alonzo the met 291 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: says there's a conspiracy theory to keep down salaries in 292 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: certain years. Oh, Jeff, let's sort through this. When did 293 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: this become a story a decade ago? And I'm not 294 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: exaggerating when I say that, Dan, I wrote a story 295 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: when I was with Yahoo Sports. I think it was 296 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: eight years now. I wrote a story about how pitchers 297 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: are starting to use sunscreen and rosin in order to 298 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: get a little bit of a sticky feel on their hands. 299 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember this, but Clay 300 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: buck Holtz was pitching at Rogers Center indoors and had 301 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: sunscreen on his arm. That's when you knew there was 302 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: an issue here. When Clay buck holes is running his 303 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: hands as his hands through his hair and he's got 304 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: like Jerry Curl going on in back and you see 305 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: on his arm and he keeps going to his arm 306 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: and there's sunscreen there. In a Dome Stadium. I was like, okay, 307 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: you know ballplayers love to cheat, Like that's just that's 308 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: what this comes down to, is it not? Is this 309 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: not just a reminder that baseball players love pushing boundaries 310 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: as far as humanly possible and that if you, and 311 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean you, as Major League Baseball writ large, give 312 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: a baseball player an inch dand they take a marathon, 313 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: like that's just what they do and how I think 314 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: they're wired and program And it's interesting thinking about other sports, like, 315 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: is the desire to push your performance to different levels 316 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: doing things that are in a very gray area prevalent 317 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: in any other sports? I mean, I don't know baseball 318 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: or I don't know football in basketball and hockey as well. 319 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: And I'd love to hear your answer to that, because 320 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is just a thing that's 321 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: unique to baseball or if it exists everywhere. But it 322 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: feels like this just started to escalate a month ago, 323 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: that it got really big and now I watched Garrett 324 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: Cole last night. I tuned into the Twins Yankees game 325 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: just to watch Garrett Cole on the mound to see 326 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: what he did or what he didn't do. A very 327 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: impressive performance by him. But now all of a sudden, 328 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: Baseball is going to be closely monitoring what pictures, how 329 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: do they do this? What what you wear? Are we 330 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: inspecting you the inning by inning? Okay, I want to 331 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: get back first to your first question. I say ten years. 332 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: That's a little bit of a flip answer, because this 333 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: is something that's really accelerated over the last probably three 334 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: years or so, when guys graduated from sunscreen and rosin 335 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: to some of these, uh, you know, other substances. And 336 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: there there have been pictures out there Dan who for 337 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: a while now have had their own like homebrew. I mean, 338 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: I have heard of one who takes um like a 339 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: firm grip stick and melts it down and mixes it 340 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: with coca cola and and like cooks it inside of 341 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: a coke can. It's like, I mean, it's like baseball heroin. 342 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: And they go out and use this and get extreme spin. 343 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, when Major League Baseball did 344 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: not crack down and essentially turned a blind eye to 345 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: guys who were using increasingly sticky substances, others all of 346 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: a sudden are like, well, if they're doing it, they're 347 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: getting advantages that I don't have, and I don't want 348 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: to get passed by. I don't want to lose out 349 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: on money. I don't want my team to be disadvantaged 350 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: because of this. So I'm just going to join in 351 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: the party as long as the league isn't saying anything 352 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: about it, and that's that, you know. I don't think 353 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: this is the same as steroids. I think the parallels though, 354 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: are that players felt like they were going to be 355 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: missing out on opportunities or they were going to fall 356 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: behind if they didn't do it. In the league because 357 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: it didn't say anything emboldened players to do that. How 358 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: this is going to turn out, It's going to be 359 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: a disaster. I mean, umpires who already have a contentious 360 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: relationship with players are literally going to be tsaying them 361 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: like ten times a game. And there are going to 362 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: be some players who get angry at the implication that 363 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: they might be cheating. There are going to be some 364 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: players who, when they get caught, which is bound to happen, 365 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: are denying it. You know, if players actually are dan 366 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: scared straight by the possibility of being caught, then if 367 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: umpires aren't catching anyone, it's gonna look like they're not 368 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: doing their job, like they're just all kinds of mine fields. 369 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: But major League Baseball believes this is important enough now 370 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: to make it a priority. Here's my problem with this, though, Jeff, 371 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: that you know, we want to have more offense. Oh, 372 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: we got too much offense. Now we want to have 373 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: a little more of an equal footing. Oh wait, they're 374 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: too good on this side. Now we got to help 375 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: the hitters. So next year we're going to help the hitters. 376 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: This year we've helped the pictures. Like they're back and forth. 377 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: They got to make up their mind. What kind of 378 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: game do you want? And then enforce the rules because 379 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: somebody using an illegal substance, Um, it's called an illegal substance? 380 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: Is that cheating? Like what it's varying degrees of cheating? 381 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: And and then like how much is too much? How 382 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: much is just enough that we're going to allow you 383 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: with the unwritten rules of baseball? Yeah? I look at 384 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: it this way. If you have a rule that is written, 385 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: either apply the rule or get rid of it. And 386 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: if you are going to apply it and player is 387 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: going to break it, then that to me is cheating, 388 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: Like it is clearly trying to get an advantage on 389 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: field over an opponent, and you know, doing so by 390 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: hook or in this situation, by crook, and you know, 391 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: in terms of baseballs helter skelterness. I think in this 392 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: situation there's actually some ability to it, Dan, because I'm 393 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: glad you tuned in to watch baseball. A lot of 394 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: people aren't, and they should be. They should be incentivized 395 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: to watch Joheyotani and watch Jacob deGrom and watch Tatis 396 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: and Akunya and Guerrero Junior, and watch Juan Soto and 397 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: watch all of these really brilliant ball players who populate 398 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: the big leagues these days. But the game stinks right now. 399 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: And if you ask anybody, and I mean anybody inside 400 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: of the sport, they will tell you that strikeouts have 401 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: become too prevalent in the game, has slowed down too much, 402 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: and that creating some action in the game is imperative 403 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: for its long term and short term survival. And so 404 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: to do something where you make the pitchers a little 405 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: less dominant, I actually don't think that's a problematic thing, 406 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: even if it does continue on this trend of trying 407 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: to do too much or trying to manipulate the game 408 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: too much. I'm watching the Yankees Twins game, and they 409 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: were showing batting averages, and I thought they were telling 410 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: you how much a player weighed. I thought it was like, oh, 411 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: he weighs one eighty eight. Oh he's won seventy six. 412 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: Oh there's somebody weighs two thirty five. And then I realized, 413 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, these are batting averages and you're going okay, 414 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: So there is something to this. We had Fernando Tatis 415 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: Junior on yesterday and he said, I'm seeing pitches I've 416 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: never seen before. Now granted he's a young player, but 417 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: he's saying, I'm at the plate and I'm seeing things 418 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: that I've never seen before. That to me sounds a 419 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: little more alarming than just hey, I need a little 420 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: grip on the ball so my slider doesn't get away 421 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: from me. Right, And these two things are interrelated because 422 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: for a long time, I think the reason that it's 423 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: coming to a head now is the fact that the 424 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: sport is hitting two thirty seven and hitters are like, 425 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: okay enough. Like for years, pitchers have told us that 426 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: they need some tack on the ball in order not 427 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: to let it fly, in order to keep things safe. 428 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: And I do believe then there's there's some validity to that, 429 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: because what teams are asking pictures to do now, and 430 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: what pictures feel like they have to do is go 431 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: Max's effort. And when you go max effort and you're 432 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: throwing stuff with the arms that guys have now at 433 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: ninety seven to one hundred, or you're trying to rip 434 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: off a slider Jacobs ground who, by the way, I 435 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: don't think uses anything but Jacobs Degraum throws a slider. 436 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: Ninety three slider is ninety three miles per hour. It's 437 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: silly stuff that we're seeing across the game. But it 438 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: transitioned from we need a little bit of grip to 439 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, this grip works really well. I think 440 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and try and use something austrial adhesive 441 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: that strong men are using to lift Atlas stones. Like 442 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: that's where we are right now. Where they've gone and 443 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: just taken something that made sense and just taken it 444 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: too far. As a former pitcher told me last night, 445 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: he said, they're throwing fricking frisbees. It's like whiffleball, And 446 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: he said, we're not supposed to be able to do 447 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: that with the baseball normally, naturally. You know what, though, 448 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't want to just blame this 449 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: dan on foreign substances. I think you're still going to 450 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: see and here's the path I think it's going to take. 451 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys have been scared straight 452 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: already and are going to stop. I think there are 453 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: going to be a few who continue using just the 454 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: way there are some who continue using steroids even when 455 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: there are penalties in place. These days. You're still going 456 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: to see nasty pitches though, because it's not just the 457 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: tacky stuff that's doing it. The technology more than the 458 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: sicky stuff, I think has led to this point. By 459 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: the technology, I mean, guys go into labs like literal 460 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: pitch creation labs right now, where they look at slow 461 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: motion video of what they're doing, where they're releasing the ball, 462 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: what the spin is coming off they do. I mean, 463 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: they put pressures on different fingers and try to figure out, okay, 464 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: how do I create this optimal pitch that moves to 465 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: get strikeouts. That's where most of it is happening right now. 466 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: The sticky stuff just exacerbates it. It's always great to 467 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: talk to you see. There's a benefit from this because 468 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: it gave us an opportunity to talk to you again, Jeff, 469 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: So I think it's a win win for all of 470 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: us here. Thank you Baseball for cheating. I truly appreciate it. 471 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: That's Jeff Passon. He's the baseball insider for the Mothership. 472 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: All right, let's settle on our poll question here. I 473 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: always liked so we put up. Is using a foreign 474 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: substance to improve your grip illegal and cheating or illegal 475 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: and not cheating? Okay, you have hitters who say, I'm 476 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: okay with you using something so that ball doesn't get 477 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: away from you, like Tom Brady deflating a football illegal 478 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: and cheating, illegal not cheating. It's a rule. It's a 479 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: stupid rule. Yeah. I don't care if the other quarterback 480 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: is got a football to his liking because he's got 481 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: to throw it. I don't. I couldn't care less about it. 482 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: And instead of the NFL saying, you know what, it's 483 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: a silly rule, they they went to the mat with 484 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and they wanted to prove a point there. Yeah. Right, 485 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: Is there a difference between something that's cheating and something 486 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: that's against the rules. Yeah, And I think what Brady 487 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: did and I do think the football's were deflated. It's 488 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: always you know, the cover up is work than the crime. 489 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: If you just said, look, you know I took some 490 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: error out of it just because you know I'm more 491 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: comfortable throwing it that way, all right, you want to 492 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: dock me on one check or whatever it is. And 493 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: then when we had Aaron Rodgers on and he goes, 494 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: I like it inflated even more. I like a real 495 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: rock hard football in there. So is that illegal? If 496 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: you inflate a football? Is that illegal? If Peyton Manning 497 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: likes it this way and Patrick Mahomes likes it this way, 498 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: what do I care? Yes? But wasn't there this whole thing, 499 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: and who knows if it happened where the officials measure 500 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: the balls, put xces on it, then allegedly somebody mets 501 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: with the balls afterwards. That just the process of that 502 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: sense seemed so over the top. And I've never seen 503 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: definitive proof that happened. But well, I am I surprised 504 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: if it did happen. No do I understand if I'm 505 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback, if I'm Tom Brady and I say, look, 506 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: let me feel those footballs because I want to. If 507 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm playing basketball, and I say, hey, if you deflate 508 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: it a little bit, I can control it. I can 509 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: palm it. But if you put more error in it, 510 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: then I can't. Do you think players, you know, players 511 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: get to they see the basketball. When you start a game, 512 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: they'll let both sides, like both captains will look at 513 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: the ball and bounce the ball, and then they get 514 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: to check what they want. And then if they say no, 515 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't like that, nobody makes a big deal about that. 516 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: If you give me a ball that has a little 517 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: bit air, a little air out of it, I love 518 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: it because I just there's a better feel to that. 519 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: It's the same thing with these quarterbacks. McLeman. But what 520 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: if the official at the beginning of the NBA game 521 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: decide on the ball, says this is the ball, and 522 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: then the NIXT sneak out that ball and put in 523 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: another ball out of the blue without telling you if well, 524 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: that's different from the standpoint of both teams with the 525 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: same basketball and possession to possession. If Tom Brady when 526 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: he plays, or if my punter when he kicks, or 527 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: my place kicker when he kicks, you should be able 528 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: to have a football to your liking. If everybody has 529 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: a choice. There's no advantage to it. Yeah. See right, 530 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: So if you go back to pitching, both sides have 531 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: sort of unofficially agreed, go ahead, use a little bit 532 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: of sunscreen and some rosin or whatever. Lose a little 533 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: bit of pine tart for the grip and control, no problem. 534 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: But now when you're using military grade you know, superglue 535 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: to get some kind of crazy spin. All right, Now 536 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: you've gone too far before. There was an illegal substance before, 537 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: but everybody agreed that was okay, Yeah, it's it's more 538 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: illegal now. Yeah, now this one's even more illegal. Though. 539 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: Are you using an illegal substance? Yeah, but not the 540 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: really illegal substance there. Yeah, Paul. Do you think Major 541 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: League Baseball investigates this or FOE investigates this. They say, 542 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna look into it. We're gonna do a deep 543 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: time because if they wanted to, they could find out 544 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: which teams had this ship to their clubhouse and which 545 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: teams didn't. Well, I have a little information on that 546 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: that there are probably eight teams or more who have 547 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: had spider tach delivered to their facility, to their stadium. 548 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: You said eight teams, eight, eight to ten at least 549 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm told now, I don't know if this is a 550 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: pitcher who's not gonna order something to his house, but 551 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: is it the clubhouse guy? But eight I'm told yesterday 552 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: by somebody who knows what's going on here that eight 553 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: to ten teams have had shipments of spider tack delivered 554 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: to their stadium. And you know, these are small jars, 555 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: but a jar can last you a pitcher for the 556 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: entire season there. But this is for strongman competitions, but 557 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: spider or attack is not. In the baseball world. They 558 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: ship this to a lot of places, to a lot 559 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: of people. I can buy it on Amazon, but it's 560 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: being sent to baseball stadiums. From what I'm told, Yes, 561 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: mclin went. The teams just say we're using it for weightlifting. 562 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: That would be my first I yeah, like we want 563 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: a better I guess if Jim Carlos Stanton wants to 564 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: use it to lift weights, then I'm like, okay, yeah, 565 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: I get that. It's you know, when it's one hundred 566 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: and twenty eight pounds shortstop, who goes yep, I need it. 567 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: I need it when I'm doing those curls. Tim Toughele, 568 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: Tim Toughele. Nice reference there, Fritzie. Know whatever I think 569 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: of a skinny ballplayer. I remember when we were growing up, 570 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: guys were just little guys. Well, they were normal, they 571 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: were natural. That that's how you looked back then. Now 572 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: you look back and you go, was he sick? No, No, 573 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: he wasn't sick. But I don't think anybody was lifting 574 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: weights back then. Yeah. Uniforms didn't do the many favorites either. 575 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: They remember i'll tight the pants word all that. Well, 576 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: then players, players wanted you to see how strong they 577 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: were and how good a shape. And then we immediately 578 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: jumped to where you're using steroids too. Then they started 579 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: wearing bagg You remember Manny Manny Ramirez looked like he 580 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: wore laundry to the plate is pajamas and he'd be there. 581 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: It looked like you could put two mannies in there. 582 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. Phone calls coming up 583 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: back after this, Dan Patrick, thanks for listening to The 584 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 585 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine 586 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us 587 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live 588 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlie. 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I've had a moment to calm down 615 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: just a minute, Okay, I gotta say, man, I've I've 616 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: had an issue up by the way, good morning guys. 617 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: I've had an issue with your Tom Brady stance for 618 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: years now, okay, and every time I hear it, I 619 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: get worked up. All right, fire away there, Brian, what's 620 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: on your mind? Okay? The rule is there for a reason. 621 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: Everyone plays with the same equipment, the field is the 622 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: same size, everyone is on the same page. Those are 623 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: the rules. They know the rules. I'm not a Tom 624 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: Brady hater. I actually like him more than I would 625 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: be against him. But I do have to say that 626 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: he knew the rules. He skirted the rules to gain 627 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: an advantage that has to be called cheating. You've been 628 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: dismissing it for a lot of years. I just want 629 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: to say, if you're okay with that, then you should 630 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: be okay with my kicker getting to kick through goal 631 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: poll set are six inches wider and eight inches starter 632 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: than your kicker. Brian, you had me until you went there. Okay, Sorry, 633 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: you got worked up. You're letting somebody have an advantage 634 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: outside of the rules that other people aren't taking and 635 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: got punished. He got punished, Brian, did he did. But 636 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: you're defending. You're saying he shouldn't have gotten punished. No, 637 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying it's a stupid rule, Brian. Now I don't 638 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: think it's a stupid rule. I think I think the 639 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: rule is there because everyone gets the same field to 640 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: play on, including the equipment. Do you think the footballs 641 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 1: are all the same. No, but I think there's a range. 642 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: I think the goalposts are all the same. Within a micrometer, 643 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: it's not the same. That's not the same. You can't 644 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: adjust the goalpost. I can adjust a football. And come on, 645 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: you want to do with the football. It's it's a rule. 646 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: He broke a rule, he lied about breaking a rule. 647 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: In my opinion, he got punished. He got severely punished 648 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: by this. Right, we can all agree it's a stupid rule. 649 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: Your quarterback likes a football a certain way. You can 650 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: look at the football that Peyton Manning uses and it 651 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: looks different than the one that Aaron Rodgers uses. And 652 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers liked a football that was overinflated, that it 653 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: was rock hard. Is that cheating? No? When you deflate it, 654 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: we feel like, oh wait a minute here, okay, and 655 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: we're arguing about two things, or discussing two different things. 656 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: Did he break the rule? Yes? Did he get punished yes? 657 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: Do I think the rule is stupid? Yes, that's it. 658 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sympathetic to Tom Brady. He was gonna sue 659 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: the show for Tampa Bay for God's sakes. Yes, the 660 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: teams are allowed to prepare the footballs to this like 661 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: specifications that the quarterback wants. If the ball had to 662 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: be exactly the same for every single quarterback, the league 663 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: would provide the balls, not the teams. But instead, the 664 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: teams are allowed to prepare the balls. They can scuff 665 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: them up, they can wear them down, they could do 666 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: anything they want to them. But as long as they're 667 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: in this PSI ring, yes, in this range. So it's 668 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: there's gray area here. Did Tom do this or somebody 669 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: do this in my opinion. Yes, was it a rule 670 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: that he broke or somebody broke. Yes? Did he get punished? Yes, 671 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying the rule is stupid. You're a quarterback 672 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: can play with the football all that he wants to, 673 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: and my quarterback is going to play with the football 674 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: how he likes it. I don't have any problem with that. 675 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: If you've already said that football needs to be this 676 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: can't be anything different. But that's gonna be pretty tough. 677 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: Like do we ever say you know that basketball I 678 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Seems like whenever we go to the garden 679 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: that basketball is not fully inflated. I mean, why have 680 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: an inflation rate? How about it's just one? Yes, boy, 681 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of arbitrary rules. Rule five, Section four, 682 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: Articles three in the NFL, all players must wear helmets, 683 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: shoulder pads, thigh pads, and knee pads. Players without those 684 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: rules will be subject to a fine and will be 685 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: removed from the game until the violets are correct. I 686 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 1: would say at least a third of the NFL players, 687 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: defensive backs and wide receivers especially do not wear knee 688 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: pads and haven't. This is a rule and is still 689 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: a rule that all players who wear knee pads, but 690 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: they let the players choose based on their own personal comfort. 691 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: That's the same thing they don't enforce any pad roll. Well, 692 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: shoulder pads all different sizes. Clay Matthews shoulder pads look 693 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: like the ones you'd wear in Pop Warner, Michael Bennett, 694 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: do they go? Everybody's shoulder pads gotta be the same 695 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: size here? I mean, can we all agree that your 696 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: socks have to be pulled up to a certain level 697 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: or you get fined as this stupid rule. I mean, 698 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: the NFL can be our kic and some of the things. Hell, 699 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: we don't even know what a catch is. Y, I 700 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: send some Minnesota Viking bitterness. He does. He kept talking 701 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: about the field goal kicker was out of the blue, 702 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: a little Gary Anderson PTSD there I or that other 703 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: one where they basically has the Seahawks. He's like, well, 704 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: if Tom Brady could do this hack on my Vikings 705 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: kid hit a field goal in the playoffs, Yeah, we 706 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: can't widen the goal post wide enough to help you. 707 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: I did not understand the tie in with the goal post, 708 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: but now I think it's a Viking thing. Well, look, 709 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: you had me with the other stuff. I'll listen to that. 710 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: But when you say, oh, let's change the goalpost for 711 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: my kicker, deflating a ball is not equivalent of moving 712 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: in a goal post. But I apparently this has been 713 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: festering in Brian for a long time, and I'm glad 714 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: we got that out as we can have our relationship 715 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: move forward. Oh how did we get here? Cheating? Oh 716 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: that's right, cheating Age seven seven three d P Show 717 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 1: email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle 718 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 1: at DPS show. Coming up next hour, Michael Kay, the 719 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,959 Speaker 1: Yankee broadcaster, will join us. We'll talk about Garrett Cole. 720 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: But he's also written a book all of his interviews 721 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: he does that they have on the S network. So 722 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: he's interviewed everybody from A Rod to Jay Z. 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