Speaker 1: Brothers in the building. That back than y'all.
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Speaker 2: We had we're supposed to do a show here last year.
Speaker 2: I fucked that up. I apologize, well, actually my kids
Speaker 2: fucked it up.
Speaker 3: A good dad.
Speaker 4: It's very few good dads, Ross and Matten and being
Speaker 4: a good guy.
Speaker 2: Blame it on them. But nevertheless, man, we're back. We're
Speaker 2: really excited again. Shout out to stock X. We got
Speaker 2: some great guests. We're gonna have some great conversations.
Speaker 1: Stack.
Speaker 2: You got a little bit of history with this city
Speaker 2: right here. You almost got beat them. Was beat the
Speaker 2: shit out of you out here, you know, you.
Speaker 4: Know what, you know what's crazy, and a lot of
Speaker 4: people I'm glad I can say this today like they
Speaker 4: loved me for the shit that I did because not
Speaker 4: it wasn't had nothing to do with the team.
Speaker 2: Or none of that.
Speaker 4: They love the fact that I'm a RIDA and Detroit
Speaker 4: is for the Riders, so I can come to the
Speaker 4: city any time I.
Speaker 1: Want to and be good, and be good, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Z, Shout out everybody out of the day.
Speaker 2: Man, You're lucky that it was out in the Auburn
Speaker 2: Hills and not downtown Detroit, because you might have been
Speaker 2: fucked up if.
Speaker 1: It was out here in time, probably wouldn't be here
Speaker 1: talking right now.
Speaker 2: Well again, we're really excited to be here and without
Speaker 2: further ado, let's get our first guest out here, homegrown
Speaker 2: boy uh one of the hottest young rappers in this space.
Speaker 2: Also a big time gamer. I'm interested to learn a
Speaker 2: little bit about him in the gaming space too. But
Speaker 2: welcome to the show man T Grizzily.
Speaker 5: May sixteen.
Speaker 1: Let's start there, Yes, sir, forever my moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm releasing Yeah, what's your fans expect when this
Speaker 4: album come.
Speaker 1: Out in the drop. So this album it's all me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. There's no features, no filters,
Speaker 1: no none of them features, none of it just me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I'm really doing it
Speaker 1: for the people that's out there grinding and chasing their
Speaker 1: own moment, you know what I'm saying. I remember when
Speaker 1: I wrote the first My Moment when I was in prison,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to tap back into that space
Speaker 1: and balancing gaming like you were saying, and being a
Speaker 1: having a family and just having to be who I am,
Speaker 1: just putting it all into the music they're coming to.
Speaker 4: Man, I mean you ten years ago, you was in prison,
Speaker 4: you know, and you pop out today. I mean bigger
Speaker 4: than anybody, you know what I say. You've done more
Speaker 4: than some people that's been free this whole time. What's
Speaker 4: the process and train of thought that go through yourself
Speaker 4: from coming on to be able to build yourself to
Speaker 4: where you are today?
Speaker 3: And salute to all that too, because a lot of
Speaker 3: people can't bounce back.
Speaker 4: We've seen a lot of people not bounce back, but
Speaker 4: you mastered it, bro So salute to that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Bro, So my thing I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1: I create a vision in my head or who I
Speaker 1: want to be, where I want to be at, all
Speaker 1: the things that I want to achieve, and I just
Speaker 1: chase that person, bro, and I become addicted to just
Speaker 1: making progress and getting closer and closer to becoming that
Speaker 1: persons that I'm visioning. It's impossible for me to have
Speaker 1: these visions of who I want to be and where
Speaker 1: I want to be at and just not do nothing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the more progress I make,
Speaker 1: the closer I know I'm getting to be coming it,
Speaker 1: and I just get addicted to that feeling.
Speaker 2: BRO.
Speaker 4: During that process, you know, we all go through stuff
Speaker 4: and we need people to lean on. Who are some
Speaker 4: people that you can lean on that you kind of
Speaker 4: on to, you know, to help you get back to
Speaker 4: where you want to be?
Speaker 1: I would say, besides like friends and family, I would
Speaker 1: say my strongest weapon is prayer. Bro. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When it was just me, I had God,
Speaker 1: so give it up. You feel me?
Speaker 3: Detroit rap scene is, how has it ever been?
Speaker 4: How do you feel being one of the you know,
Speaker 4: one of the young Pineeers and involved.
Speaker 3: You know, it's rap scene. You know, when it's damn there,
Speaker 3: it's highest.
Speaker 1: Man. I feel great about it. One thing about Detroit music,
Speaker 1: I've always loved it and appreciated it. I'm happy that
Speaker 1: the rest of the world is getting to appreciate it
Speaker 1: the same way we did this whole time, right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because these people been like celebrities
Speaker 1: to us, and we've been having a music and repeat.
Speaker 1: So I'm happy that the world is not catching on
Speaker 1: and accepting it.
Speaker 4: We talk about Detroit hip hop, define that for people
Speaker 4: that don't know what Detroit hip hop is.
Speaker 1: Detroit hip hop for me through my lens, is this
Speaker 1: authentic music. It's really stories.
Speaker 3: You have your own sound. Yeah, yeah, by far.
Speaker 1: So when people go in the studio, they come in
Speaker 1: from a place of experience. They coming from a place
Speaker 1: of Honger and it's gritty here. It's ugly here, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the experiences, and for a long
Speaker 1: time the world didn't set it because it was too
Speaker 1: gritty and too ugly, you know what I'm saying. But nah,
Speaker 1: it's to the point where people like hold on, were
Speaker 1: we from ugly too? Really the same people from different places,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm happy that the
Speaker 1: door was able to be open for us.
Speaker 2: I can see upbringing the Detroit paint the picture for
Speaker 2: us about your upbringing and how you fell in love
Speaker 2: with music.
Speaker 1: So my upbringing, it's so crazy because it was so
Speaker 1: fun and I didn't even know it was so fun,
Speaker 1: and I didn't even realize a lot of stuff was wrong,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I didn't know that it
Speaker 1: was wrong until I found out. Hold on, we can't
Speaker 1: be doing that, you know what I'm saying. So my
Speaker 1: up bringing it was it was rough now that I
Speaker 1: look at it now. Then it wasn't rough to know
Speaker 1: no better. I didn't know no better. But it was fun.
Speaker 1: It was good times, it was bad times. And as
Speaker 1: far as music, when I started hearing Detroit artists, like
Speaker 1: the first Detroit artists, and then I would actually see them,
Speaker 1: I would see them in the car that they just
Speaker 1: had the song about, or I would see them doing
Speaker 1: the stuff that they were just rapping about that just
Speaker 1: enticed me, and I'm like, man, I want to do
Speaker 1: that too. You know.
Speaker 2: I'm from Northern California Bay Area Sacramento area. So anytime
Speaker 2: there's something depicted about the city, you know, obviously I
Speaker 2: paid close attention to how real was what we've seen
Speaker 2: about BMF and what fifty did about that type of show.
Speaker 2: I know obviously you were younger at that time, but
Speaker 2: your people, how close up a depiction of Detroit is
Speaker 2: that to the truth?
Speaker 1: As far as I really can't speak on none of
Speaker 1: the illegal stuff, but as far as like dudes wanting
Speaker 1: to get money, that's the that's the heart, that's the
Speaker 1: heart and the soul of the city, like Detroit Breedes hustlers.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We gonna find a way
Speaker 1: to get to it regardless. For sure, you play an
Speaker 1: these sports. Growing up, I played a couple sports. I
Speaker 1: played football for a minute, box full of a minute.
Speaker 1: What would you like in both of them? I was good.
Speaker 1: I played pop Winner for a minute. I was cool.
Speaker 1: What position? I was a linebacker? Okay, so you can
Speaker 1: hit people? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did you box to Yeah? I boxed, And so I
Speaker 2: was like seventeen, Well what stops somebody? What stopped you
Speaker 2: from continuing that?
Speaker 1: Man, I really ain't have a way to get back
Speaker 1: and forth to the gym. My coach was on me.
Speaker 1: He like, if you really want to do it, you
Speaker 1: will get here. And I'm like, man, I really don't
Speaker 1: have a way to get there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I wanted to, but I just I just couldn't.
Speaker 2: Growing up, what's your fondest memories about the city of Detroit.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of different moments, Bro. It'd be going
Speaker 1: to the mall after school with all my friends. We
Speaker 1: don't even buy nothing. One person probably probably buy a
Speaker 1: T shirt, but we just walking around or being on
Speaker 1: a block in the ice cream truck pull up and
Speaker 1: it's an older dude over here that just buy everybody something,
Speaker 1: or just I don't know, just being around the neighborhood
Speaker 1: with my with my peers.
Speaker 2: Bro, you're regarded as one of the best storytellers in
Speaker 2: this hip hop's space today. Where did the storytelling the
Speaker 2: aspect of your rapping come from? So it's an artist
Speaker 2: from here payroll Now. He was the first person who
Speaker 2: I heard do a kind of story.
Speaker 1: Type of vibe. I've heard a lot of people do
Speaker 1: story wraps of course, like the slick ricks and stuff,
Speaker 1: but the way he did it. He had this song
Speaker 1: called Best friends and the way he did it, it was
Speaker 1: just so amazing to me. I'm like, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: that one day. And when I finally got a chance,
Speaker 1: like to get around to it and write it, it
Speaker 1: turned out amazing for sure.
Speaker 3: The first day out Pistons playoff anthem.
Speaker 4: How does this feel to half that, you know, being
Speaker 4: home and have that and what was the process of
Speaker 4: getting that done?
Speaker 1: Man? It was amazing. Bro. First of all, the feeling,
Speaker 1: the feeling is crazy. I remember, this is your city,
Speaker 1: that's your team. Yeah. Yeah, it showed you to get going.
Speaker 1: But I remember I was in like the fourth fifth grade.
Speaker 1: We went on a field trip to the Palace of
Speaker 1: Arburn Hills to like a Pistons game, And right now
Speaker 1: it's like a complete full circle moment. Even though it moved,
Speaker 1: but the feeling is amazing. The way it came about
Speaker 1: was I mean, they knew who had the anthem, so
Speaker 1: you know, he said they knew they's had a tap in. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's really priceless though, like being a you can't get
Speaker 1: that kind of being a part of this moment is
Speaker 1: priceless for real.
Speaker 4: So I think at this moment, you know, we're talking
Speaker 4: about the games, that you have in the anthem. I
Speaker 4: think we have a StockX gifting moment. Fatigu Grizzly. Oh
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, so you can be fresh for the game.
Speaker 4: Shout out stock X one more games. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Stock as.
Speaker 2: One that my phone is on hold on real quick, bro.
Speaker 2: So obviously being a Pistons fan, how does it feel.
Speaker 2: I mean this is for everybody, but particularly you. I mean,
Speaker 2: Pistons have been down for a minute. I mean I
Speaker 2: remember when we was in the league mid early two
Speaker 2: thousands and obviously we got a sheet here. We're gonna
Speaker 2: talk to him in a little bit. Pistons basketball was
Speaker 2: something to be dealt with and it had a little low.
Speaker 2: But now that you guys are back, Kate is leading
Speaker 2: the charge. JB is, you know, the head coach, creating culture.
Speaker 2: How does it feel as a fan of a Piston
Speaker 2: to see them back in contention?
Speaker 1: It feel amazing, bro, It feel amazing, Like the vibe
Speaker 1: different when I'm hearing I knew it was real when
Speaker 1: I started seeing people jump ship, like I know, people
Speaker 1: that's had other team go ahead take them other team fans,
Speaker 1: And when I'm starting to see people switch over to
Speaker 1: the pistons. I'm like, oh yeah, right, we back for.
Speaker 3: Sure, Let's get back to the game of presence.
Speaker 4: Uh, you got a huge you got over one point
Speaker 4: two million subscribers on Twitch. What initially drew you to
Speaker 4: becoming being a game and how does that fit into
Speaker 4: your overall legacy.
Speaker 1: So I'm being honest, bro, I probably was a gamer
Speaker 1: before I was a rafting foremost, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then when when COVID hitting, we stuck in the house,
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just gaming all day and I meet
Speaker 1: some people online that was like, bro, you should stream
Speaker 1: like you actually good? And I'm like, how high stream?
Speaker 1: So I had somebody fly out and set me up
Speaker 1: in my crib to the point I'm like, I want
Speaker 1: it so easy. All I gotta do is press a button.
Speaker 1: And I've been streaming ever since, so you had to do.
Speaker 2: I saw you talk to the dudes for the million
Speaker 2: dollars was a game, but it's a while ago. So
Speaker 2: I forgot some dude from Canada set up something for
Speaker 2: you to do. What he set up a motim or
Speaker 2: what he set up? Yeah, some my boy North he
Speaker 2: has like that. So he built servers, servers that's what
Speaker 2: it was. Yeah, so he had built me a grant
Speaker 2: that photo server, and that's what Grizzly World is. So
Speaker 2: explain what that is, because I mean, you could put
Speaker 2: your own products in there. You can put the homies
Speaker 2: products in there. They put anything in there and monetize
Speaker 2: from the game. Right, it's fully customizable. For example, my
Speaker 2: boy got a food truck. Hi, we just put that
Speaker 2: in there. They've been going crazy.
Speaker 1: Food truck. He pull up to the hospital.
Speaker 2: They be You put real life ship in the game
Speaker 2: and then it translates to dollars in real life.
Speaker 1: Exactly. That's exactly.
Speaker 2: Bro. Did you ever think you'd be paid to play
Speaker 2: video games?
Speaker 1: Though? Never, and you're making good money.
Speaker 2: You have to talk about the number, but you're making
Speaker 2: good money playing video games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure. It's it's I encourage anybody
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 2: So when I be on at the fucking Twins to
Speaker 2: get off the game, I need to chill out.
Speaker 1: And let them do their thing. Let them do the man,
Speaker 1: just make sure they streaming straight up?
Speaker 3: How did your sneaker taste develop over time?
Speaker 1: Sneaker tastes develop over time. Be honest with you, and
Speaker 1: I ain't even about to fake it, like, Bro, i'
Speaker 1: voy it has been just a weak timberlind white Loaves
Speaker 1: person always, so I never really got off into being
Speaker 1: like into sneakers crazy. Now if I see some fire,
Speaker 1: then you.
Speaker 3: Waiting in line and thathing like that ain't no getting on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't doing none of that now because you
Speaker 1: can't go wrong with some white loaves.
Speaker 2: Go to every time it was ad Bacs in Texas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, too much dirt out therea to be wearing though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you balance gaming? Fatherhood music? And you're
Speaker 2: one of them artists that's dope, but you make people
Speaker 2: wait like you don't throw a bunch of shit out
Speaker 2: there like you make them wait. That's why obviously May
Speaker 2: sixteen is going to be a big anticipated day. But
Speaker 2: how do you balance just your life because you've got
Speaker 2: a lot of different things going on?
Speaker 1: Man, I would say you need an assistant and a planer, Bro.
Speaker 1: For real, everything has to be scheduled, even stuff you
Speaker 1: don't think, like down to the smallest thing. You got
Speaker 1: to have a routine and everything has to be scheduled
Speaker 1: that way. When I'm want something, can't nobody complain about nothing?
Speaker 2: That's the one thing I told the kids earlier.
Speaker 4: A lot of stuff going on, you know, in the streets,
Speaker 4: and you know, for the youth, what was some what's
Speaker 4: giving some advice? What would you tell you right now
Speaker 4: if they asked you, you know, for some advice being
Speaker 4: a big part of you know, the city.
Speaker 1: So for the youth, man to the to the youth.
Speaker 1: That's I had not too long ago, probably last summer,
Speaker 1: I had went to a few county jails, like all
Speaker 1: over the country, right and each and every last one
Speaker 1: of them, I'm talking about every one of them. It
Speaker 1: wasn't one that had a different type of mindset. They
Speaker 1: wish they didn't do whatever they did. The moment that
Speaker 1: they that I talked to them, that's some of the
Speaker 1: first stuff they say, like, man, I wish I didn't
Speaker 1: do that, Bro, it wasn't even worth it. I wish
Speaker 1: I didn't do it. So to the youth out there,
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, you gonna if you get caught, you're
Speaker 1: gonna wish you did not do it. I use myself
Speaker 1: as an example, like when I got locked up, Bro,
Speaker 1: the moment they put them handcuffs on me, I'll learned
Speaker 1: my Listen, they ain't even have to give me no time.
Speaker 1: You feel me I learned right there, Like all right, bet,
Speaker 1: y'all serious, you feel me? It up, he said, I've learned.
Speaker 1: Just everybody wish they didn't do it, So just don't.
Speaker 1: Don't end up wishing you didn't do something that go
Speaker 1: for chasing your dreams or getting in trouble. Don't be
Speaker 1: in a position where you wish you to do something. Facts.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, bro, I appreciate y'all. Definitely want to
Speaker 2: have you for a full length interview out in La
Speaker 2: So we'll line up with you and figure out when
Speaker 2: you have time, fly you out, put you up and
Speaker 2: really dig into your past and all your greatness.
Speaker 4: But thank you for your time. I need that gameing
Speaker 4: hook up too, because I'm a ceodal. But he ain't
Speaker 4: ship though. He's a niggas behind. He's a snapper. He
Speaker 4: sits back at just nice people. He ain't in the field.
Speaker 4: Don't let them life. He lost hand to hand combat
Speaker 4: in that game. He's hacking with a knife like Jason.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, ain't it. They say you can't.
Speaker 2: Bring an to a gul fight, But I think he's
Speaker 2: doing to kills you again with a knife.
Speaker 3: It's like this nigga just hit.
Speaker 5: Me with an.
Speaker 2: He's from long.
Speaker 3: Range, from Tom Brady range.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna show you how he don't play the game.
Speaker 4: What new map just dropped? Don't say nothing, what new
Speaker 4: map just d I don't play the game. But I okay,
Speaker 4: so he don't know.
Speaker 5: Let you know.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, don't be what sniper you run? I don't
Speaker 4: run a sniper. I run too sall rifles okay, but yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah I got over here. I got over yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: overkill where you can have two assault rifles.
Speaker 2: He's been smoking. Don't believe the bullshit, but knowing man,
Speaker 2: y'all give it up. Grizzy man. We appreciate you, brother,
Speaker 2: Thank you, dog, appreciate you. Our next guest is the
Speaker 2: NBA champion found a home out here in Detroit. Welcome
Speaker 2: to the show. Rashid Wallace by sheid, what's up? My brother?
Speaker 5: What it does?
Speaker 1: What's happening? Baby?
Speaker 5: You good man? Sat same can't complain?
Speaker 2: Hey, so I hear she like two weeks ago, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: we're doing a live show. StockX said they need you
Speaker 2: your fan favorite. Let me know your information. We're gonna
Speaker 2: fly you out here. Take care of you take. She's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm in, but I'm gonna drive. I said, what, this
Speaker 2: motherfucker drove eleven hours here from North Carolina just to
Speaker 2: be here with you, guys, man, So give it up
Speaker 2: from she Yes, sir, oh no, driving is my thing.
Speaker 5: I ain't even gonna lie. That's that's my thing.
Speaker 2: You came here in one of the biggest trade deadline
Speaker 2: trays in the history of the game, and you were
Speaker 2: actually we was talking about this out back when we
Speaker 2: was fellowshipping use with Stack for one day. You guys
Speaker 2: play the game two days, one game Hawks versus the Nets. Stack,
Speaker 2: you killed twenty five, seven and six. She you had
Speaker 2: twenty six rebounds and five blocks. And next thing you know,
Speaker 2: you're out of here for some real basketball because you
Speaker 2: was playing some bullshit in Atlanta, so they had you
Speaker 2: come to Detroit for some real basketball.
Speaker 1: So pick up.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was playing men's gym at U c l
Speaker 2: A with Stack. Those are all summer league numbers. Don't
Speaker 2: don't put that on account. But what did it mean? Obviously,
Speaker 2: you and Stack, being brothers, got a chance to play
Speaker 2: with each other briefly. But what did you feel like
Speaker 2: when you knew you was going to Detroit and all
Speaker 2: the talent that was here at the time.
Speaker 5: Man, it was lovely.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: We were just sitting there as me stacked JT and uh,
Speaker 5: you know, we had the game and in Jersey and
Speaker 5: then you know, we flew down to Miami. He was
Speaker 5: about to play them, I think like the next night
Speaker 5: or the day after and next thing, I know, you know,
Speaker 5: like you said, was chilling on.
Speaker 2: I know, paint the picture for everybody. What was y'all
Speaker 2: doing when you found out you got traded?
Speaker 5: Like right now, all right, we're all chilling in here
Speaker 5: right now, right girl playing and that ship just came
Speaker 5: across the ticker right there, and everybody we look right here,
Speaker 5: everybody like oh you know, that's how we was.
Speaker 2: We looked at him like did you just see that?
Speaker 5: I was like, look, I'm looking at my phone like
Speaker 5: he ain't hit me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that's some bullshit or.
Speaker 2: That like nigga, is that you That's how I looked
Speaker 2: at it, Like, bro, I.
Speaker 5: Was like, man, we you know, we was like damn
Speaker 5: after one game, but no playing playing that with Stack
Speaker 5: though it was good, it was lovely. I felt rejuvenated,
Speaker 5: you know, playing with some some younger guys who got
Speaker 5: it mentally him. JT played with Boris di al on there.
Speaker 5: Terry Stotts is our coach, so it was it was good.
Speaker 5: But then when I got that call, so I'm like,
Speaker 5: all right, bet, so I got you know, I gotta
Speaker 5: go where they go.
Speaker 1: It's still play ball.
Speaker 5: The funny thing about it, I'm with Portland and we
Speaker 5: came here to Detroit like about two weeks prior to
Speaker 5: the trade. I'm talking big ship man, y'all can't stop us,
Speaker 5: y'all ain't ship this and that man being the funk
Speaker 5: out of here, and.
Speaker 1: Y'all know how I go, right, But it wasn't personal,
Speaker 1: you know, so the game.
Speaker 5: So it is during a game, part of the game.
Speaker 5: So then I get traded, right, so boom, I'm here
Speaker 5: and you know it did the press conference and all
Speaker 5: that shit, right, So I go in the locker room
Speaker 5: and I meet the gods.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, just talking to everybody.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, you know that wasn't you know some
Speaker 5: serious shit I was talking, you know, a couple of
Speaker 5: weeks ago. You know, it's all part of the game.
Speaker 5: So you know, everybody just laughed. It off and everything,
Speaker 5: but no, it was it was a brotherhood, man, and
Speaker 5: and coming here with that team, who would have thought?
Speaker 5: Who would have thought? Everybody on that team was solid.
Speaker 5: Everybody on that team was solid veterans, of course, except
Speaker 5: for our more younger players, but man, everybody was a
Speaker 5: journeyman if you look at it. On that team, myself,
Speaker 5: Ben Rick, the only one who was an original was
Speaker 5: take Shawn, Yeah, and other than that, everybody else was
Speaker 5: a journeyman. Even even our bench d Ham, Eldon Campbell
Speaker 5: Orles Williamson, you know, everybody else was a journeyman. And
Speaker 5: it was like, man, we we but we got it though.
Speaker 5: We got what it meant to be in the league.
Speaker 5: We got what it meant like, look all these motherfucking
Speaker 5: games count, and man, by most times graces we clicked
Speaker 5: and boom. We just went out there and you know,
Speaker 5: did what we did? You know we got We do
Speaker 5: have one record with that team that I know for sure,
Speaker 5: especially in today's era, will never be broken. Nope, we
Speaker 5: held I think it was either six or seven teams
Speaker 5: under something like seventy points for seven straight games. That'll
Speaker 5: never be done again. And the thing is we didn't
Speaker 5: even try to do it. We were just out there playing,
Speaker 5: just us being us. We didn't even try to do that.
Speaker 2: We was like, oh shit, LB was y'all coach Larry
Speaker 2: Brown man pound for pound? Well like for LB, LB
Speaker 2: is not. What was it like fucking with LB?
Speaker 5: I see, I see. Larry Brown was a mad scientist.
Speaker 5: For those who know basketball, you know, of course LB
Speaker 5: has been a great coach in a lot of places
Speaker 5: that he went championships or conference championships something. He's a
Speaker 5: mad scientist man. He you know, did some things that
Speaker 5: Coach Smith did. And when I say coach Smith, Dean
Speaker 5: Smith down in Carolina, you know that was his mentor
Speaker 5: as well. So when he did some of the things
Speaker 5: that Coach Smith did, Like okay, let's say during the
Speaker 5: regular season, we got to play called three circle. It's
Speaker 5: for you three circle. So it's gonna be me and
Speaker 5: Jack setting the screen for you coming off on a
Speaker 5: double for you to go to week's side so they
Speaker 5: don't come playoff time. All right, We're going to do
Speaker 5: three circle. But here's the wrinkle. Everybody expecting you to
Speaker 5: come off, so they trying to prepare for it and
Speaker 5: jump it. So now all it is is me back
Speaker 5: screen Jack and now Jack coming off and then you
Speaker 5: hitting me and then I'm popping out or whatever the case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ship.
Speaker 6: But it's like, yo, who the fuck would have thought
Speaker 6: of that?
Speaker 2: The wrinkle?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like wrinkle, Like.
Speaker 5: It's a hard wrinkle. And but LB's a mad scientist, man,
Speaker 5: He's He's one of the best coaches I've.
Speaker 1: Ever played for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had LB and Charlotte super probably my best year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I had my best year. We got into the playoffs though. Yeah,
Speaker 4: coming from Portland in Atlanta, how does it feel? You know, men,
Speaker 4: you both are active in the communities that we play in.
Speaker 4: How does it feel to have the city of Detroit
Speaker 4: embrace you like they did when you came in?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Man, it was lovely. It was lovely. And I think
Speaker 5: that hell precedents to the point where Ship. I was
Speaker 5: out in the streets.
Speaker 2: I'm out on the streets, on the streets because y'all
Speaker 2: play they Yeah, yeah, we played.
Speaker 1: This way though.
Speaker 5: I frequent and out here downtown Joy Road, you know,
Speaker 5: just just hanging out.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm out in these streets and and.
Speaker 5: The city embraced me though, And that's what I love
Speaker 5: you know, because for the simple fact, I think they
Speaker 5: embraced the blue collar ness because of the way that
Speaker 5: the city is. And look, y'all see me now, I
Speaker 5: ain't flashy, I ain't got no ice. You know, that's
Speaker 5: that's just my persona. And and I think that's one
Speaker 5: of the things at the city embraced, like, Yo, this
Speaker 5: is every day dude, you know this and that. I'm like, shit, yeah,
Speaker 5: I do go to the market for myself by myself,
Speaker 5: this and.
Speaker 1: That, so I am.
Speaker 5: But it's just the fact my job you see on TV,
Speaker 5: I'm the nine to fives entertainment.
Speaker 2: I'm just like y'all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that but the city embraced that. And man,
Speaker 5: I didn't have a problem going anywhere. It was mad
Speaker 5: love everywhere downtown, you know, in different sections, you know,
Speaker 5: East Detroit, West Detroit. It was all loved because why
Speaker 5: we all represented the city and then they knew we
Speaker 5: were some killers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, straight up.
Speaker 3: We all dealt with some bad press.
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of a lot of times people
Speaker 4: misunderstood your passion for the game and use things off
Speaker 4: the court, you know, different nicknames and the press that
Speaker 4: did anytime the n of that ever bother you or
Speaker 4: deter you from being who you are.
Speaker 1: I know the answer, but I'm answering.
Speaker 5: No, it didn't. But I actually honestly gave it some
Speaker 5: thought one time, though at the time I was married
Speaker 5: in Portland.
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna crack up with this.
Speaker 5: So I know, y'all remember the incident with Damon stottle
Speaker 5: Myron and I when you know, if they don't explain it, well,
Speaker 5: we were we were coming back from Seattle during the game,
Speaker 5: and you know, we got pulled over. The cops said
Speaker 5: we had weed and this, and that we didn't have
Speaker 5: it because I already smoked my jay, it was already gone.
Speaker 5: It was so I knew you had had ship with
Speaker 5: a d on end I had so hey past tense
Speaker 5: and you know, we got into a little trouble. So
Speaker 5: on the way home, I'm like, man, I don't think
Speaker 5: they're gonna show this on Sports Center the next day.
Speaker 1: Before you get there.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to cut you off, didn't I heard
Speaker 2: is urban did the team bus pass y'all when he
Speaker 2: was pulled over on the side of the road.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get to that.
Speaker 1: So here it is.
Speaker 5: You know, they pulled us over, and so it's a
Speaker 5: rookie cop. So you know, of course you got two
Speaker 5: NBA guys. Man, man, it should look good on my record.
Speaker 5: It's a name for myself. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 5: So the rookie cop, you know, boom, he out there,
Speaker 5: he got us, and the lights is flashing. The mind
Speaker 5: you if you know most of you guys ever drove
Speaker 5: on a dark road. Let's say y'all drove from here
Speaker 5: to Indiana or here to Chicago, something like that. Right,
Speaker 5: you know you're going to run into a dark road
Speaker 5: with no fucking lights. Right, So here we are Boom,
Speaker 5: we on the road, no lights. So all we see
Speaker 5: coming around and being we see some flash, some big
Speaker 5: lights and all they see is the flashing lights.
Speaker 6: In the darkness. Hey that's the bus right there.
Speaker 5: Team bus go by were like, oh damn, So the
Speaker 5: team bus pulled off for a second, you know, they
Speaker 5: pulled over. The PR guy got out for a second.
Speaker 5: Damn No, they got off the bus. But no, it
Speaker 5: was just a PR dude. And you know the cop
Speaker 5: the cop did is you know, you stepped back this night?
Speaker 5: He got back on the bus.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 5: So I ain't mad at him for that because I
Speaker 5: would have been like, let's leave too. So we're like,
Speaker 5: oh man. So then boom, next morning, I wake up
Speaker 5: and on ESPN and so my ex wife she's my
Speaker 5: ex wife today, but at the time she was my wife.
Speaker 5: She's like, oh, what did you do this and that that?
Speaker 5: I'm like waking she waking me up, hitting me and Ship,
Speaker 5: I'm like, what what's happening?
Speaker 1: What's happening?
Speaker 5: What did you do this?
Speaker 1: And that? That? You on TV? I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Ain't nothing happened. I ain't do nothing.
Speaker 6: I ain't get no text, I ain't been cracking nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm chilling.
Speaker 5: We ain't have a game, no text. She turned the
Speaker 5: TV on and then talking about the traffic stop, right,
Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh, Ship, yeah, So you know I
Speaker 5: had to be real with her. It happened and this
Speaker 5: and that. Right, But the funniest part of that. So
Speaker 5: we at home one night chilling la la la la.
Speaker 1: La, watching watching The Chapelle Show.
Speaker 5: Right, So we're chilling, and you know, they got I
Speaker 5: think it's a segment he had when keeping the Real
Speaker 5: Goals wrong or something like that. Right, So they had
Speaker 5: the cop walking down the street with the baton and
Speaker 5: he's seen a car with the windows up all smoky.
Speaker 5: He taps on the window and rolls the window down,
Speaker 5: and it's Charlie Murphy and Ashy Larry and all you
Speaker 5: see is smoke come out of the car and Charlie Murphy.
Speaker 5: All he said was Rashi all.
Speaker 1: My wife was mad as fuck ya.
Speaker 5: But me, I am on the floor.
Speaker 2: That's legendary, legendary.
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm crying, my stomach hurting, my face hurting from
Speaker 5: laughing so hard, and.
Speaker 6: You're under arrest.
Speaker 3: Rush sheet while up it's not.
Speaker 5: And it was nothing else that I could do. So
Speaker 5: she was like, see, see, that's that bullshit, and now
Speaker 5: your son's got to go to school and list.
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn.
Speaker 5: I was like, that's the only time out of my
Speaker 5: whole career, I really felt bad. Other than that, as
Speaker 5: far as a text on the court that I'm justified,
Speaker 5: it was still kind of dope.
Speaker 2: Though it was still kind of dope.
Speaker 5: Though it was funny to me, Yeah, it was hilarious,
Speaker 5: but she didn't find it funny, like even to this day,
Speaker 5: I might catch it.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm crying, I'm crying.
Speaker 2: I had something similar to Kanye West with the ship
Speaker 2: he talked about me and I think it's funny, but
Speaker 2: my ex wife still be getting mad at that shot.
Speaker 1: I'm about to drive.
Speaker 3: Like Matt Boss. Just WHI A nigga.
Speaker 5: Asked, Hey, it's life life, It's urban legend.
Speaker 2: Now it's above us exactly. Still active in the Detroit
Speaker 2: the community visit Flint consistently during the water crisis.
Speaker 1: Where does that stand?
Speaker 2: We talked to mo'cleves last summer and he said, it's
Speaker 2: still not as good as it needs to be. But
Speaker 2: why do you feel it's important to give back to
Speaker 2: a community that gave you so much?
Speaker 5: It's still fucked up in Flint. To be honest, I'll
Speaker 5: say it no sense. Nobody else do. But it's what
Speaker 5: I grew up with. Man, It's what I grew up with,
Speaker 5: you know. It was It was crazy that the day
Speaker 5: that I took my family and my friends up there
Speaker 5: from North Carolina from Philly, ran into an organization called
Speaker 5: New Era Detroit and they was out there doing the
Speaker 5: same things we were doing. I was like, shit, can
Speaker 5: we walk with y'all? Cause you know, we got a
Speaker 5: truckload full of stuff? They had a truckload full of stuff,
Speaker 5: and it's like he was like, yeah, you know the
Speaker 5: leader Zeke. He was like, yeah, come on, you know,
Speaker 5: because it's all for us, so all for the people
Speaker 5: up there in Flint, you know, whoever needed it. And
Speaker 5: so we was going door to door and then just
Speaker 5: doing a lot of things here. When I was playing here,
Speaker 5: you know, out of Kettering High School and just being
Speaker 5: again in the community in the daytime and nighttime, your
Speaker 5: presence is felt. It was fun. It was good though,
Speaker 5: but it was much needed, you know, just to let
Speaker 5: the people know, like yo, I was in that same situation.
Speaker 5: So y'all not alone. So everything that I could do,
Speaker 5: that's what I tried to do for the city of Detroit.
Speaker 5: Everything that I do or did here in the city Detroit,
Speaker 5: I tried to do in the city of Philadelphia, the
Speaker 5: city of Portland, DC when I played there, wherever I go. Yeah,
Speaker 5: because man, it's universal, you know, it's that that lower
Speaker 5: income is universal. Bro, it don't matter what city.
Speaker 2: Talk to us about them early. This is kind of
Speaker 2: off script, but you mentioned DC. You had you C
Speaker 2: Webb and Juwan Howard rod strickland Mark Price, Mark Price
Speaker 2: talked to us about them early DC days, and I
Speaker 2: mean a power forward heaven over there with you three
Speaker 2: over there in particular, Man, you.
Speaker 5: Wanted me to tell you the truth about that. It
Speaker 5: wasn't even a learning lesson on the court. It was
Speaker 5: more of a learning lesson off.
Speaker 1: Of the court.
Speaker 5: Explain that I had veteran players, I had a veteran
Speaker 5: power for by the name of Bob McCann. He was
Speaker 5: the first one to really break taxes down to me.
Speaker 5: You know, as a young and coming up, we're not
Speaker 5: thinking about you. Hear about tax season and it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: that's when you get all the money back and cook
Speaker 5: everybody in the hood, everybody talking our taxes, taxes, taxes
Speaker 5: right now. It was like, we get there. But and
Speaker 5: that's what he broke down to me. He was like,
Speaker 5: he's like, young fella, he was like, you're in a
Speaker 5: different tax bracket now, you know. He's like, you know
Speaker 5: your mom growing up and your aunties and all of them.
Speaker 5: He's like, no, you're not in that tax bracket no more.
Speaker 5: Where you're getting back them a couple of hundred dollars
Speaker 5: and this and that. You know you're going to do
Speaker 5: this and have to do that, And he, you know,
Speaker 5: broke the whole tax thing down to me, and I'm like, damn.
Speaker 5: And then you know, just breaking it all down about
Speaker 5: all right now you're traveling, like, hey, look, you know
Speaker 5: you're gonna have different things this and that. He's like, man,
Speaker 5: he was like, you a good kid, and you don't
Speaker 5: need to get caught up in that bullshit out there
Speaker 5: with them chicks who be in the hotels and.
Speaker 1: All of that stuff.
Speaker 5: And you know, I'm like, man, I said, I feel
Speaker 5: you eventually. I did eventually, but that's another story.
Speaker 2: You got experience as the best teacher exactly.
Speaker 5: And but it was just everything about life, not even basketball, bro.
Speaker 5: It was life that they taught me. That bab mccannn
Speaker 5: taught me, that Sea Web taught me, that Jawan taught me,
Speaker 5: you know, and and that whole team Mark Price again
Speaker 5: playing with him? What who? I never thought in God's
Speaker 5: Green Earth that I would play with Mark Price. I
Speaker 5: grew up watching him. We're playing with him on the
Speaker 5: video games Live and all that shit. You but to
Speaker 5: play with him, so all right, that's that's that's thorough.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I definitely accepted and respected that because it's like, damn,
Speaker 5: last year I was watching you with Cleveland and he
Speaker 5: was falling in the playoffs, and here I am this
Speaker 5: year playing with you.
Speaker 2: That was a time back, though, when we really used
Speaker 2: to practice and the first team would go at the
Speaker 2: second team. Tell me what it's like for a young you.
Speaker 2: And although Webb and Juwan were both young, what was
Speaker 2: it like those battles and practice between three of the
Speaker 2: best young power forwards in the game at the time.
Speaker 5: First, I was starstruck, to be honest, I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 5: because I was just watching those guys play. At the
Speaker 5: University of Michigan. They changed the fashion rules, you know,
Speaker 5: the big baggy shorts and uniforms and socks and yup
Speaker 5: and you know, the shoes and all. They changed it,
Speaker 5: and of course we all was affected by that. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. We all had that little fab
Speaker 5: five venus. And so I'm like, damn, I'm playing with
Speaker 5: two of them. I'm playing with Chris and Juwan.
Speaker 6: I'm like, man, And I was.
Speaker 5: A big fan of them, and just to but to
Speaker 5: hear the basketball knowledge that they gave me, you know,
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, bet, and here I am
Speaker 5: the second team. It's myself, Robert, Pat Tim Legler, uh
Speaker 5: Don McLain, who went to u C. L A and
Speaker 5: I'm missing oh uh and second five, damn, damn.
Speaker 2: His name is on the tip of my Tonguebert mcelvain, Oh,
Speaker 2: Jim mcelevain.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's second five. So that second team. So we're
Speaker 5: going against trash Mark Price, Calbert Cheney, Mitchell Butler Webb
Speaker 5: and Juwan or they could have through you know, Big
Speaker 5: George and there George mure sign depending on how his
Speaker 5: knees felt, you know, with practice stuff. But man, that
Speaker 5: ship a learning lesson for sure. Battles got my ass beat,
Speaker 5: but it's a learning lesson. Came back the next day. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm sore, I'm hurting, but you got to come back
Speaker 5: the next day. It's all part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it different kind of different times. Some
Speaker 2: of our best memories in Golden State were off the court.
Speaker 2: Can you share any funny most of them, all of them,
Speaker 2: all of them. Can you share some of your off
Speaker 2: the court stuff here that you can share. I mean,
Speaker 2: you told us the crazy story about when you guys
Speaker 2: won a championship and you went home and did what
Speaker 2: you had to do, But can you tell us any
Speaker 2: fun stories about this this team in particular.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure. I'll definitely give y'all g rated.
Speaker 3: Story I think they want are there ain't no shit
Speaker 3: if you want now.
Speaker 5: She guys are grown down and their coaches here and there.
Speaker 1: You know, I got you keep it g keep it
Speaker 1: g my bad.
Speaker 5: But I will mention one guy because this is my guy.
Speaker 5: He's crazy. So here we are, we're defending the championship.
Speaker 5: We go to Atlanta, so that's when you know everywhere
Speaker 5: I carried the belt and all that shit. Right, So
Speaker 5: we all go out to eat. It's about all in all,
Speaker 5: it's about fifteen of us. It's about maybe six or
Speaker 5: seven guys on the team, but you know, we got
Speaker 5: a couple of homies with us and this and that.
Speaker 5: So we go out to eat. Everybody have a good
Speaker 5: time eating, drinking. Boom, we get full. So now we
Speaker 5: hopping the cabs. No ubers. Back then it was.
Speaker 4: Cabs and carry you had that belt with you at
Speaker 4: all these places.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so you know, guys hopping cabs and you know,
Speaker 5: for some of the friends that was local. You know,
Speaker 5: they drove, but we all pulled up to the spot
Speaker 5: right boom. We in Atlanta go to the club, so
Speaker 5: mind you all you see the big mob cats ranging
Speaker 5: from like six two six three to about like seven
Speaker 5: seven to one, right, like damn, hey, yo, hey yo.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna need y'all here at the front door.
Speaker 5: So, you know, as we're walking up getting out the car,
Speaker 5: a we seen, that's your security came. So who's leading
Speaker 5: the charge, the shortest dude out the bunch, Lindsey Hunter,
Speaker 5: it's my guy. It's my guy, right, So he's leading
Speaker 5: the charge. So we all four, you know, we all four? Right,
Speaker 5: So he walks up and you know Lynz strolling like
Speaker 5: George Jefferson and boom walks. He's just walking through. So
Speaker 5: the security like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Where are you going? Man?
Speaker 6: He's like, man what He's like, hold up, man, you can't.
Speaker 5: Just walk in here like that. We need to see
Speaker 5: some ID. So lindsay did the old school Dragonfly Jones,
Speaker 5: like like, like, man, you see you know who we are.
Speaker 5: He's like, man, we don't pistons, man, we don't pistons.
Speaker 5: And he's like, all right, but I still need to
Speaker 5: see some ID, Like you want to see some ID.
Speaker 5: And at the time I was wearing a championship ring.
Speaker 5: I didn't bring the belt to the club because I
Speaker 5: didn't want to leave it or no shit, but so
Speaker 5: I just had to ring on right. And then he
Speaker 5: was like, Lindsay said, you want to see our id
Speaker 5: ray show them my I D. I showed the security
Speaker 5: that ring. That bitch was blinging. Lindsay was like, that's
Speaker 5: our I d chump and just walked on through the door.
Speaker 5: And hey, we walked on the door behind you.
Speaker 1: It took like land.
Speaker 5: It was lovely though, but we always went together in
Speaker 5: the group.
Speaker 2: Man, that's dope.
Speaker 4: Big walk us through what a game day routine looks like.
Speaker 4: For she from when you wake up.
Speaker 2: Don't leave nothing out everything, don't leave nothing out, all the.
Speaker 4: Medicine and stuff you need to get ready for a
Speaker 4: day's game, y'all.
Speaker 5: Something else.
Speaker 6: I just want to let y'all know.
Speaker 5: No, it was fun, though, so more daily routine. Let's
Speaker 5: say game day, wake up, take the kids to school,
Speaker 5: come home, blow one, chill out, go to practice or around,
Speaker 5: depending on you know what it is, practice, shoot around, boom.
Speaker 5: After that, maybe with one or two of the guys,
Speaker 5: a couple guys on the team, we might catch lunch somewhere.
Speaker 5: Then we all got to break up right after that,
Speaker 5: cause we got to pick the kids up from school.
Speaker 5: So go pick the kids up from school, come home,
Speaker 5: do homework. It's my turn to cook. My wife she
Speaker 5: did the homework. You know. It was always just everybody
Speaker 5: had their role.
Speaker 2: Even on the game day, I like all this, Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 5: No, no, I took it. Yeah, sure, but I mean
Speaker 5: just just the regular routine. It's just like, you know,
Speaker 5: if it was my turn to cook's and we had
Speaker 5: a game, that's the only time I got an excuse
Speaker 5: other than that, even if I wanted to hang out.
Speaker 5: She was like, I don't give a fuck. You better
Speaker 5: make sure that y'all there's some food in there and
Speaker 5: the dishes done all that. I respected that, all right.
Speaker 5: I made sure the kitchen was clean, food, all that stuff.
Speaker 5: But on game day, yeah, take my neck. She picked
Speaker 5: the kids up from school, go to the game. On
Speaker 5: the way the game might blow one or might blow
Speaker 5: one when I wake up, but then go to the game,
Speaker 5: so I'm in the right frame of mind. And because
Speaker 5: I live right down the street from the palace. But man,
Speaker 5: I loved it. It was It was nice short ride,
Speaker 5: quick ride going to the game, and man, once you
Speaker 5: step in between them lines, it's it's lovely. I just
Speaker 5: want to let y'all know, it's a whole different atmosphere.
Speaker 5: So y'all, y'all see it from one side. And and
Speaker 5: for those who did go to the palace and around
Speaker 5: this time, that playoff time, y'all understand like the thickness
Speaker 5: of the atmosphere, you know what I'm saying. And man,
Speaker 5: just just to see that once you step in the lines,
Speaker 5: smell that popcorn and to see everybody up there, and
Speaker 5: all you hear.
Speaker 2: Is try.
Speaker 5: The whole arena state fire be fired.
Speaker 2: That's doe, give it up, that's dope.
Speaker 1: Y'all have. Y'all have always had.
Speaker 2: An amazing home court advantage.
Speaker 1: Were talking about this earlier today.
Speaker 2: Stocks like when you came when y'all was good coming here,
Speaker 2: even not during the playoff, during the regular season, like
Speaker 2: during the announcements and the fire all that was just like, god, damn,
Speaker 2: it's a real shit right here.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: Man, hey Mason, he's the genius.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: You know, he came up with the whole Detroit basketball slogan.
Speaker 5: And so I had to protect my guy one day.
Speaker 5: You know, we in Cleveland, and so I'm about to
Speaker 5: check into the game. So I'm sitting at the scorers table,
Speaker 5: and you know, just so happened that somebody from Detroit.
Speaker 6: I can't remember who, but you know, hit the.
Speaker 5: Ball out of bounds and the guys talking about something
Speaker 5: Cleveland's basketball. Hey you you uh uh uh uh No,
Speaker 5: don't don't try to copy my man. Don't try to
Speaker 5: copy my man. Don't do that. Don't it's only one.
Speaker 5: Don't do that. Come up with your own slogan. And
Speaker 5: then I checked into the game. It's only one man.
Speaker 5: Mason was a genius at that man the way he
Speaker 5: announced everybody on a team name, not just the starters,
Speaker 5: with everybody out, the energy and man, he elect that
Speaker 5: crowd y'all. He's still here during the morning show. Mason
Speaker 5: in the morning.
Speaker 2: To cut off sweats, Where did that come from? Sweat
Speaker 2: and the pulled out pockets? Yeah, every little different with
Speaker 2: your ship. But you have motherfuckers throughout the league. I
Speaker 2: was one of them to this day. They cut off sweat. Now,
Speaker 2: how did that come about? You have some cut off
Speaker 2: warm up sweats on last night?
Speaker 5: Actually that I did that. I did the inside out
Speaker 5: pockets first, came when I was playing in college. It's like, like,
Speaker 5: you know, shit, I ain't got no money. So it
Speaker 5: was my sign to myself, I'm hungry. I gotta get
Speaker 5: some money. I'm hungry because if your pockets are inside out,
Speaker 5: can't ship go in there, ain't no money going in there,
Speaker 5: and you can't even get no lint in there. But
Speaker 5: once you get some money, you can go ahead and
Speaker 5: put them pockets the right way. So it was just
Speaker 5: a little lesson with that. But as far as the
Speaker 5: cut off sweats, I started doing that in Portland when
Speaker 5: I got traded, because the rain out there always rained
Speaker 5: out there, and you know, it was a little bit
Speaker 5: more chillier. Not necessarily the snow cold, but that rain
Speaker 5: cold is a different type of fucking cold. And Hey
Speaker 5: started practicing with sweatpants. And then one day the bottom
Speaker 5: of my sweatpants got caught under the heel of my
Speaker 5: shoe and oh it's a little slip, all right, all right,
Speaker 5: once it's out for a couple of weeks, you know.
Speaker 5: But that's when I was like, Hey, told the trainer, Hey,
Speaker 5: bring me them scissors, And from then it kept my
Speaker 5: knees warm. That was the biggest thing. About it playing
Speaker 5: in Portland and a lot of cold arenas. If you
Speaker 5: think about it back then when we played, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of heikes.
Speaker 1: There's an ice heights on the floor.
Speaker 6: So that shit was cold as fucking there, you know.
Speaker 5: And so let me go ahead, warm these old ass
Speaker 5: knees up like a fifty seven Chevy man. Just practice
Speaker 5: with these sweatpants on and cut them off. Yeah, they
Speaker 5: was cut off, probably up to like right about.
Speaker 1: Here, and shit was flying still fly.
Speaker 5: And but no, you know, you know where I knew
Speaker 5: I made an impact. I think I can't remember if
Speaker 5: it was Nike or Adidas. I seen it one day.
Speaker 2: They started making those kinds of shorts.
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, yeah, I said, making us.
Speaker 1: Like she used to cut them.
Speaker 2: But then the NBA, I don't know what what Sprouncer
Speaker 2: were with at the time. They started making shorts a
Speaker 2: little bit longer, but it still looked cooler because they
Speaker 2: had the seams all to see. I didn't like the
Speaker 2: scenes I like to cut off. Look, you know, the
Speaker 2: little they definitely try to bite your ship.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 5: Hey I'm from Philly.
Speaker 2: We trend setters, as you should be.
Speaker 5: When did pregame dance come into play pre game dance
Speaker 5: right here, Yeah, pregame dance used to be honest.
Speaker 2: Can they catch you doing this in the clubs out here? No, okay,
Speaker 2: just making.
Speaker 5: Sure that was just pregame dan, to be honest, it
Speaker 5: came from the people. It came from the energy of
Speaker 5: the crowd, because during when Mason was announcing our names,
Speaker 5: the crowd was hyped. Everything was all It was just
Speaker 5: that energy. We all like, I felt their energy and
Speaker 5: I did a special tribute as well. Like and only
Speaker 5: in the playoffs. Every time we made the playoffs, I
Speaker 5: would point this way, and the whole crow.
Speaker 1: I point this way and every which way I would point.
Speaker 5: I would point all four direct wrestler man like a wrestler,
Speaker 5: and the crowd to be hype, and it's like.
Speaker 1: Let's get this shit going, this shit going.
Speaker 6: And it was just exciting and just being silly and
Speaker 6: having fun.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: You know, everybody think that basketball players is always mad
Speaker 5: and this and that no were out there having fun too,
Speaker 5: stepping between them lines. But I loved it, man. It
Speaker 5: was all energy is classic. It's classic, and it's sparked.
Speaker 5: I guess some of the younger guys do it in
Speaker 5: some of the huddles today with the with they they
Speaker 5: style a little dancing or whatever, but it was fun
Speaker 5: doing that.
Speaker 2: What is it like to be here back at this
Speaker 2: time though? This is a special time in Detroit again.
Speaker 2: They're back in the playoffs. But like you said, the
Speaker 2: atmosphere is thicker than energy, is different during the playoff time.
Speaker 2: What does it mean for you to be back here
Speaker 2: now later although you're not playing, but it's still the
Speaker 2: kind of the same spirit for the city of Detroit.
Speaker 5: Well, I know for the for the players themselves, you know,
Speaker 5: this is a new ground, which is good for them
Speaker 5: in their careers. Like, hey, this is what it's like.
Speaker 5: It's a different feeling, it's a different fever. But for
Speaker 5: the fans, for the people, it's like, all right, shit,
Speaker 5: all right, this is the start of it. You know
Speaker 5: we're back now, you know we're on the way. We
Speaker 5: got to build it up so it won't just happen overnight.
Speaker 5: It got to be that, you know, had that team
Speaker 5: that's built up, and the fans are the ones that
Speaker 5: I think reminisced the most about them being back in
Speaker 5: the playoffs right now.
Speaker 2: That's what's up. Five straight conference finals appearance from two
Speaker 2: thousand and four to two thousand and eight. Let's start
Speaker 2: off talking about you guys beating the pit of the Pacers.
Speaker 2: In the two thousand and four Eastern Conference Finals. Tayshaun
Speaker 2: blocks Reggie shot. We just have Reggie on the show,
Speaker 2: and he said that shit still handsome. He said he
Speaker 2: would trade his push off on Jordan to hit the
Speaker 2: jumper to be able to take this layup back and
Speaker 2: be able to make it. What was going through your
Speaker 2: guys mind, obviously that that could have stealed it right there.
Speaker 2: Look at the score, by the way, look at the score.
Speaker 2: This is the first half score in today's NBA. This
Speaker 2: is the fourth quarter with fifteen seconds ago, and Tayshan
Speaker 2: had this incredible block.
Speaker 5: Talk us through this. I got I got that picture.
Speaker 5: You see that angle they just showed from up top.
Speaker 5: I got that picture in the vault, and I swear
Speaker 5: to goodness, y'all, that ball is like a fraction of
Speaker 5: an inch away from the backboard.
Speaker 2: About as close as I was hitting Kobe with the ball, Yes, close,
Speaker 2: clock right, the.
Speaker 5: Fracture right there, and I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: I was like that. At the time. I was like,
Speaker 5: all right, good block or whatever. You know, we got it,
Speaker 5: but reminiscing about it, you know, maybe a year or
Speaker 5: two after that was like, damn, that was a that
Speaker 5: was a great playoff moment, like we all we all
Speaker 5: know playoff moment, Jordan scoring sixty three in Boston play
Speaker 5: a great play off moment. You know, Reggie hitting what
Speaker 5: was it the scoring nine points or eight points in
Speaker 5: like three seconds or some shit like that in New York, you.
Speaker 1: Know, great play.
Speaker 5: That was a great playoff moment because again, as Reggie said,
Speaker 5: if he would have went up there to dunk it.
Speaker 6: That would have been gained and that could have changed
Speaker 6: the series.
Speaker 5: But Tayshawn gave that extra effort and man, just to
Speaker 5: watch that he ran down from from damn near at
Speaker 5: the corner, It's like, no, you're not getting this. Reggie
Speaker 5: got I think that that sparked and saved it.
Speaker 1: Reggie gotta dunk that. Yeah, Reggie had to dunk that.
Speaker 5: You know, Red thought like, look, he gave that one
Speaker 5: look back like there's nobody here. I guess he didn't
Speaker 5: see Tayshawn come out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Hey, Sean was kind of transparent. He's the same color
Speaker 2: as the court, so he might have.
Speaker 5: Said that, yeah he got he got that.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and four heavy underdog versus the Lakers an incredible.
Speaker 1: I mean, no one counted, No one gave you guys
Speaker 1: a chance.
Speaker 2: But this city and that team, what did it mean
Speaker 2: to first and foremost beat the Lakers? But how did
Speaker 2: y'all slow shack doown?
Speaker 5: No, we didn't slow shackdown, like like Ben and I
Speaker 5: and Elden Campbell and Corlis and Mimi Ocres. We played
Speaker 5: them to our best. We just made it hard for him.
Speaker 5: You know, big fellas was still big fella. I'm saying
Speaker 5: he was still the most dominant athlete at that time.
Speaker 5: But no, we just had to slow him down. And
Speaker 5: it's like, look, we got more fouls, we got the
Speaker 5: energy of more files, Like we just gonna have to
Speaker 5: fuck him up, you know, not necessarily deliberately, like intentionally,
Speaker 5: but look, we can't make it easy for him. And
Speaker 5: that's what it was. You know Ben's strong ass, y'all
Speaker 5: stay home. I was like, damn, because I remember Shack
Speaker 5: beating my ass, beating our Vita Saboni's ass, beating Jermaine
Speaker 5: O'Neill ass, and you know when we was all in Portland.
Speaker 5: But when I came here and we played them in
Speaker 5: the chick He's like, no, I got him. I said,
Speaker 5: oh shit, like all right, all right, cool, Now I
Speaker 5: can stay home and do what I need to do
Speaker 5: and help everybody else out. And man, it was just
Speaker 5: that chemistry, dog, you know, it was. It was crazy.
Speaker 5: It was that good chemistry. Everything fell in line.
Speaker 2: What did it mean your first ring into this city?
Speaker 5: Man, for me, it means a lot. For me, it
Speaker 5: means a lot. I went three times, but it was
Speaker 5: only successful once. But man, well let me tell you, like,
Speaker 5: I remember that to this day, and it's it's nostalgic,
Speaker 5: and you get the crocodile tears and everything each year
Speaker 5: because you know, you're watching it when the NBA Finals
Speaker 5: come up, and the first thing you're doing is looking.
Speaker 2: Up like, damn, we got one.
Speaker 5: I remember when we did this, you know exactly, and
Speaker 5: it was it was awesome.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 5: And to this day, you know, to come back here
Speaker 5: to the city is like, oh shit.
Speaker 1: You know, you get love from everybody everywhere, you know, from.
Speaker 5: From the people on the street and the restaurants to
Speaker 5: everybody in the strip clubs and.
Speaker 2: All the juke joints, everybody between.
Speaker 5: Well everybody in between. But it's love and that's and
Speaker 5: that's what I like. I'm I'm glad that the city
Speaker 5: embraced me because I embraced them, and man, it was
Speaker 5: it was a match made in heaven.
Speaker 2: You were a witness to Lebron james Is coming out
Speaker 2: party in the two thousand and seven Eastern Conference Finals
Speaker 2: where he scored twenty five straight points and we're able
Speaker 2: to knock you guys off. What was it like being
Speaker 2: in that moment? Obviously you're a vet. You see this
Speaker 2: young boy coming through and he's just on one.
Speaker 5: We was like, man, get the fuck out of here
Speaker 5: with a lot of the shots he was making. But no,
Speaker 5: that's twenty five straight Great talent, great, great fucking talent.
Speaker 5: At that time, you know, we didn't know he was
Speaker 5: going to be the player that he is today.
Speaker 4: All right, So I'll nobody't to say switch after five
Speaker 4: or six, But I wait till you got the twenty five.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 5: Hey, we tried to get schemes and scam saying all
Speaker 5: that shit didn't work, men, fuck Like you know, young
Speaker 5: young fellas set that mark right there, and it was great. Uh,
Speaker 5: you know, as I said, we didn't know that he
Speaker 5: was going to become the player he is today. So
Speaker 5: you know that also made it, as you just said, Jack,
Speaker 5: like no, we're not going to switch it all like that.
Speaker 5: You know, like Tayshawn got on Tyshawn was a remarkable
Speaker 5: defender ship. You know, he did a great job on
Speaker 5: Kobe in the finals, you know, the year or two before.
Speaker 5: So we was like, all right, like tay got him,
Speaker 5: and we stayed home doing this, doing that, and then
Speaker 5: you know, we just tried different schemes when that wasn't
Speaker 5: working and just to help him out. But yeah, hey,
Speaker 5: that was the hell of a runoff. You know, I
Speaker 5: gotta gotta tip your hat to that ship. You know,
Speaker 5: it is what it is. Let's talk, kicks. I was
Speaker 5: harassing you earlier about the shoes he was on. Y'all
Speaker 5: didn't even see. He got hisself of his shoes right here.
Speaker 5: He got some sweat his shoe.
Speaker 4: These are some rare Rashid Wallace's and he got his
Speaker 4: whole picture on the side of him and they swayed
Speaker 4: fire fire and he had something on yesterday too.
Speaker 2: But you don't even care about that type ship. That's
Speaker 2: what makes it so dope, you got yourself on the
Speaker 2: side the shoe. You don't even give a fuck, so wrong.
Speaker 3: Made what made you stay loyal to the forces?
Speaker 5: The nickes n times, Well, I played in them because
Speaker 5: it's the only shoe that protect my ankle. As y'all
Speaker 5: can see, it's already high, so it covers your whole ankle,
Speaker 5: unlike you know most of the times where cassaday they
Speaker 5: wear low times you got some guys to wear three quarters,
Speaker 5: but no, you got to protect your money makers. And
Speaker 5: at the time, air Force one was the most fashionable
Speaker 5: but yet highest high top shoe that protected my ankle
Speaker 5: and along with tables.
Speaker 2: So you played high and had to wear high shoes always.
Speaker 1: I feel you'll as you know.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing, though, y'all, here's the thing, so
Speaker 5: y'all won't think that, you know, you could just go
Speaker 5: ahead to the foot locker or whatever and buy them
Speaker 5: out the box and go get to the court.
Speaker 1: Don't do it.
Speaker 5: I had orthotics, all right, so I had I had
Speaker 5: little insert real shoes right, yeah, man, the insoles in
Speaker 5: these joints the box, Oh my god, it's like converses.
Speaker 4: With all the new technology coming out and you being
Speaker 4: who you are, especially while you were playing, Nike didn't
Speaker 4: hit you up like she. Man, we could put the
Speaker 4: same logo on some of these new fresh Nikes. Man,
Speaker 4: you sure you don't want to switch up? You was like,
Speaker 4: I'm staying loyal. I ain't want it.
Speaker 5: They tried to when at the time they tried it,
Speaker 5: but no, I didn't want it. I already set the mark. Now,
Speaker 5: you know, I was already known for wearing airs then,
Speaker 5: so as as some people call them airs, some people
Speaker 5: call them uptowns, you know this and that.
Speaker 2: But I was already But you ship didn't even look
Speaker 2: like it was laced up tight. I know, the big
Speaker 2: strap never was strapped like.
Speaker 3: They convinced you to do the strap eventually.
Speaker 5: Yeah, strap on the bag thing. Strap was a Philly thing,
Speaker 5: Like Philly when we wear hot top air Force ones,
Speaker 5: just keep it at the back, on the back. So
Speaker 5: that was the Philly thing we did. So you know,
Speaker 5: that's what they did on the playground. That's what I
Speaker 5: grew up with. And hey, take that ship.
Speaker 1: To the league.
Speaker 4: They ain't never tried to give you to somebody like
Speaker 4: come on, she want you wet these bronze One time.
Speaker 1: Once I got established.
Speaker 5: No, but early on I didn't have my shoe at first,
Speaker 5: Like when I was playing in Washington, I ain't had
Speaker 5: my own shoe. I was playing in sea webs and
Speaker 5: real talk, Bimbo Coles, tools, No, some some air mats,
Speaker 5: Cross Trainer, Ken Griffy.
Speaker 2: Oh that was just fire. Did you just strap them neither?
Speaker 2: Huh No, No, they ain't had no air bubbles everywhere around.
Speaker 5: I had to get a heavy ankle tape because they
Speaker 5: have no support at all.
Speaker 6: But they was fashionable. I was like, oh, these joints
Speaker 6: is fire.
Speaker 5: Oh definitely, wearing ankle braces, taping your ankle all that
Speaker 5: ship with them.
Speaker 3: But they look good though you out there with third
Speaker 3: basement shoes on.
Speaker 5: Man, No bullshit, no bullshit.
Speaker 1: Then I feel somewhere.
Speaker 6: And then but when once I got to Portland, you know,
Speaker 6: of course home and night. Then our guy, my guy.
Speaker 6: I know a lot of people mad at him right now.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 3: Nicoo man, that's our brother.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: They talking about.
Speaker 2: Taking some ship right now. Though it's all right.
Speaker 1: I'm with him.
Speaker 5: He you know, approached me and ended up you know,
Speaker 5: getting a Nike contract with them. He was my rep.
Speaker 5: And the rest is history.
Speaker 2: Just you guys that know Nico's the guy that traded Luca,
Speaker 2: so he now he's a GM, but before he was
Speaker 2: the Western Region Nike rep that took care of Kobe everybody.
Speaker 1: Nico has always been to homie.
Speaker 2: He's done some heat right now, but he used to
Speaker 2: be he me.
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, if you the man sit next
Speaker 4: to the man in this building, don't you laugh because
Speaker 4: one day you might be asked to do something you
Speaker 4: don't want to do. Yes, sir, exactly what happened in
Speaker 4: that situation. Any players today that have the high top
Speaker 4: air force one with she Wallas type of game that
Speaker 4: you would allow to wear your shoes, that you would
Speaker 4: want to wear your shoes?
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, that's that's a good question.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, smoking the doesn't have to be a
Speaker 4: thing because we just league in the league now so
Speaker 4: you can pick anybody.
Speaker 3: You have a lot of guys to pick from them.
Speaker 2: What kind of chances did we take for these dudes
Speaker 2: that have just chances?
Speaker 5: Hey, look listen here, remember them the days putting that
Speaker 5: Tiel up under the door, were thinking that ship man,
Speaker 5: that shit ain't worked.
Speaker 2: For the whole hallways smoked out.
Speaker 5: Let's open this and get the vacuum to go this.
Speaker 2: Man and put and put a shower cap on the
Speaker 2: on the smoke.
Speaker 5: None of that ship, Oh yeah, put put the wash
Speaker 5: cloth on the sector. And then you see when you
Speaker 5: get your check and ship you seeing that the fine
Speaker 5: three three fifty for smoking in room. Damn, y'all don't
Speaker 5: really know like that.
Speaker 1: Fuck it.
Speaker 2: We used to take real chance of smoking because you called.
Speaker 2: So when you guys first in league, it was the
Speaker 2: one preseason test and you were good. Yes, All of
Speaker 2: a sudden mid two thousand they started the four random tests,
Speaker 2: which was bullshit, but we were still smoking. So that
Speaker 2: means any given day you could have a p test.
Speaker 2: So I know, I used to pay my trainer to
Speaker 2: get me a heads up, like, yo, bro, let me
Speaker 2: know what's on the list. At first, the league would
Speaker 2: give you names, but then they found out we was
Speaker 2: too smart, so they would just say, hey, heads up,
Speaker 2: we're testing your team today.
Speaker 1: So they would test four or five guys. So every single.
Speaker 2: Time I know I got a call, I had to
Speaker 2: prepare as if I was getting tested. We have to
Speaker 2: take them nasty ass drinks and drink all that water
Speaker 2: and you know we are.
Speaker 4: It was horrible, terribly. You couldn't getting no routine. When
Speaker 4: I came to the league, it was easy to get
Speaker 4: a routine. When they threw them random drug tests, they
Speaker 4: threw you all off.
Speaker 5: But you know what, I won't say the whole thing,
Speaker 5: but I think they randomed the randoms. And here's why
Speaker 5: I say random because one day, you know, he came,
Speaker 5: They came and tested a couple of guys on the team.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh, my name wasn't called. I'm like,
Speaker 5: all right, bet he not coming back for another three
Speaker 5: months next least, right, So I'm like that.
Speaker 6: So you know, one home you know, had a little bowl.
Speaker 5: Hoked up. He did the next.
Speaker 1: Day he came back back to back days.
Speaker 6: Whose name is on the list today?
Speaker 5: Just yours cheat and a couple of other players. I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh fuck. I'm like, fuck it, I'm caught. I'm like,
Speaker 5: it's nothing I could do about it. Like, ain't no
Speaker 5: drinks or none of that ship you didn't call clipping
Speaker 5: dirt man that ship. No, I wasn't tripping. I won't tripped.
Speaker 5: I'm like, because it's the first time of fence, you know,
Speaker 5: That's what I'm thinking right. I never got called. They
Speaker 5: never was like, oh, you came up dirty and this
Speaker 5: and that.
Speaker 1: They didn't care.
Speaker 6: It was either that or I was like, damn, they
Speaker 6: random the randoms.
Speaker 2: Where you diluted to diluted, you drink too much water,
Speaker 2: so heat all kinds.
Speaker 5: Of that motherfucker was hot. Hey, that pistol is hot.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this.
Speaker 5: You could have put that money in any type of
Speaker 5: other drug scenario, bitch, when it came up motherfucking positive
Speaker 5: from marijuana.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Man.
Speaker 5: I'm glad, you know. I'm glad for the guys on
Speaker 5: the team right now. The city is doing well with it,
Speaker 5: and man, I just wish them, wish them well. You
Speaker 5: know they got they gotta do it, do as good
Speaker 5: as they can. They they did what they could the
Speaker 5: other night, tied it up, brought it home one one.
Speaker 5: They did their job. It's always the jobs, as y'all know.
Speaker 5: We vets. Hey, all I need is one. We just
Speaker 5: gotta get one on the road and take care of home.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't wear it.
Speaker 2: You got a jersey in there too.
Speaker 5: Yeah I got a nice cage jersey. Yeah, okay, but no, definitely,
Speaker 5: thank you. Stock as for that though, Man.
Speaker 1: The art of the turnaround jumper?
Speaker 2: You being damn near seventy one and you shot the
Speaker 2: ball two feet above your head. Where did the art
Speaker 2: of the turnaround jumper? Because I actually saw you at
Speaker 2: a high school camp and it's been circling around. I
Speaker 2: G you're not on ig that much. But there was
Speaker 2: just a clip the other day about you hit a
Speaker 2: turnaround jumper off the glass in high school. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: that's the same shot you killed in the league with.
Speaker 2: So what did that? What did that shot?
Speaker 1: Probably? One on one? I locked that ship up. He
Speaker 1: could not get that shit.
Speaker 4: He tried some new he got some move man where
Speaker 4: he backed you down and he tried to wrap his
Speaker 4: leg all the way around you when I'm going no,
Speaker 4: he got the new move work, but he tried to
Speaker 4: I was on that again.
Speaker 5: No. Actually, truth be told, it came from high school.
Speaker 5: So playing ball or the first couple of scrimmages, you know,
Speaker 5: it was a normal thing to hist the rebound and
Speaker 5: bring the ball down and who's taking it a little guards.
Speaker 5: So for a whole season my freshman year, my high
Speaker 5: school coach, every time we had to like run laps
Speaker 5: or anything, like outside of a sixteen yo. I had
Speaker 5: to run with the ball like this, and it became
Speaker 5: muscle the same way y'all would see a football player,
Speaker 5: if you know, for guys who went high school in college,
Speaker 5: you would see the football guys just walking around with
Speaker 5: the football. They going to science class and you're like,
Speaker 5: what the fun and coach like, yeah, coach it, I
Speaker 5: can't fumble it no more. So it was the same
Speaker 5: way I had to had to hold a ball above
Speaker 5: my head and doing laps, you know, every running drill.
Speaker 5: I'm like fuck. And it became a natural reflex. So
Speaker 5: now every time I grab the rebound, it was automatically
Speaker 5: up our outlast four core outlets, half core outlets, and
Speaker 5: it was just a natural reflex. And I didn't want
Speaker 5: to come out the game because he said, every time
Speaker 5: I bring the ball down, you coming out.
Speaker 1: I ain't coming out to day.
Speaker 4: And natural reflex, you know, That's what they tell all
Speaker 4: big men now, especially when they get rebounds, keep doing
Speaker 4: bring the ball down, keep the ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you still teach that when when you coach a
Speaker 2: big man.
Speaker 5: Got to go what I got quite a few drills
Speaker 5: actually for them to keep that ball above their heads.
Speaker 5: You know, just automatically you catch that rebound, you're right
Speaker 5: there offensive rebound. Instead of bringing it down to go
Speaker 5: back up, you're already there. Ship six eleven seven feet
Speaker 5: seven to one. Go ahead and drop that bitch in there.
Speaker 2: Last time he was on the show, you talked about
Speaker 2: how Joe Klein punked you.
Speaker 3: With a viral clip.
Speaker 4: Anybody else besides Joe Klein punk you way he was
Speaker 4: playing the league?
Speaker 5: No, because now that I can remember that that punked
Speaker 5: me like he did.
Speaker 4: Dog on everything story, some people that might not have
Speaker 4: heard it, all right, all right, So.
Speaker 5: So here I am. I'm I'm a rookie, and Joe
Speaker 5: Klein went to the University of Arkansas. That's my guy.
Speaker 5: Ended up being my teammate later on in my career.
Speaker 5: But so here it is, I'm a rookie. He's playing
Speaker 5: for a Phoenix. So we're out in Phoenix and I'm like,
Speaker 5: all right, bet playing them. And it's a certain play
Speaker 5: that Jimmy Lineam ran where the big man gets the
Speaker 5: lib for the dunk. So the first time I went up,
Speaker 5: you know, boom, I caught it. I dunked it, and
Speaker 5: y'all what y'all don't want it tonight. So Joe Klein
Speaker 5: looked at me. He said, hey, you do that ship again.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna fuck you up, man, whatever, old ass dude,
Speaker 5: we ain't get out of here with that ship whatever.
Speaker 5: You ain't ready for this, so boom. Like two plays
Speaker 5: days later, Yo so os, which stands for the same
Speaker 5: old ship. He's like s O S S O S.
Speaker 5: I'm like, bet hey, right, I take off. It was
Speaker 5: like air missile defense. The next thing I know, I'm
Speaker 5: like this. I'm like damn, and he's standing over me
Speaker 5: like this. I told you I was gonna knock your
Speaker 5: ass out better. Don't try that shiit no more.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Oh bro.
Speaker 5: I was like, I had a whole different respect for
Speaker 5: veterans in the league. Then with him and Terry Cummings.
Speaker 2: Terry strong as a motherfucker. Terry comes with strong as
Speaker 2: fuck bro again.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, y'all, I don't mean to go back down
Speaker 5: way for our memory lane, but it's funny as fuck
Speaker 5: so here. I am freshman, I mean not freshman rookie.
Speaker 5: Excuse me. Terry Cummings is on his way out, but
Speaker 5: he's at the time, he's playing with Milwaukee, right so like,
Speaker 5: all right, you go and Terry Cummings and night, I'm like,
Speaker 5: all right, cool, I know who he is. I saw
Speaker 5: him play on TV with Sydney Mindcreef and all that.
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, cause they was big rivals with
Speaker 5: the Sixers, doctor j Andrew Tony, all of that, right,
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, bet. That's when I knew the
Speaker 5: difference between weight room strength and grown man with kids strength. Okay,
Speaker 5: let me tell y'all it's a big difference. Don't let
Speaker 5: that weight room strength pump y'all up to think. Y'all
Speaker 5: caught dieseling this and that, y'all deal with an old
Speaker 5: man who'd been through some shit, who got like four
Speaker 5: kids and about eight grandkids to rustic ass hands. Hey,
Speaker 5: let me tell you, I'm trying to back this man down.
Speaker 5: First of all, he gets the ball in the post,
Speaker 5: hot knife going through butter laying me up left and right. Damn,
Speaker 5: I get.
Speaker 1: The ball in the post. It's like this the same way.
Speaker 5: This couch ain't going nowhere. This is me trying to
Speaker 5: dance and the man I passed the ball out. I'm frustrated.
Speaker 6: Repost what repost man?
Speaker 1: You crazy?
Speaker 5: I'm reposted I'm posting out there at the three point line,
Speaker 5: Terry Cummins was strong and ship and that's when I
Speaker 5: knew the difference between grown man's strength and weight room strength.
Speaker 5: Strong dude, man, I'm telling them NBA veterans man for real.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Regard miller Man. He's the reason why
Speaker 4: we have this new segment called factor fiction. I think
Speaker 4: he started it because his sister came on the show
Speaker 4: and he had a lot to say that was fact
Speaker 4: to fiction. We're gonna start with you. You was eject
Speaker 4: fact to fiction. You was ejected from the McDonald's fact How.
Speaker 1: How the fuck you get kicked out of an All
Speaker 1: Star game?
Speaker 3: The McDonald's how you please? I didn't even do that
Speaker 3: fact fact fact?
Speaker 1: How did that happen?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 5: Like no socause man like? I could deal with playing hard?
Speaker 1: I could.
Speaker 5: If you busting my ass, I could deal with that.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Yo, don't come at me
Speaker 5: with all the elbows and dirty ship though you ain't
Speaker 5: got to do that. If I'm busting your ass, don't
Speaker 5: come at me with that bullshit. Dog make you with it.
Speaker 5: The big Boy, Darnelle Robinson, the Big Fellow from Chicago.
Speaker 5: You know, we ended up being friends in the long run,
Speaker 5: but it was like, yeah, you know, he shot the elbow.
Speaker 5: I ain't appreciate that ship man, so you know I
Speaker 5: gave him that elbow back. And yeah, they gave me
Speaker 5: the tech man and kicked me out of that much
Speaker 5: one or two. I didn't care. I didn't want to
Speaker 5: be there. I didn't want to be there. No, no,
Speaker 5: to be honest, I didn't want to be there. Like
Speaker 5: I'm y'all already know I'm not an All Star Game
Speaker 5: type of I don't give a fuck about the All
Speaker 5: Star Game. And McDonald's is snatch. So they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: he top player in the country, you gotta be there.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, so I was half hearted with all
Speaker 5: the ship there. The other records you probably have, the
Speaker 5: probably won't be broken. The only person could kicked out
Speaker 5: McDonald's All American game fact with.
Speaker 1: Ronald McDonald was there too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just had came from the children's hospital
Speaker 3: the day before.
Speaker 1: No bullshit.
Speaker 3: You know, I know I was there too.
Speaker 2: Yes, one of your first scrimmage games in the us
Speaker 2: U n C, you dunked on senior big man Eric
Speaker 2: Montross and said, your job is mine factor fiction.
Speaker 5: Those words. No, it wasn't those exact words. We hear
Speaker 5: the words, but it was something like that. It probably
Speaker 5: was something like this my ship now or you know,
Speaker 5: something like that.
Speaker 1: Let him know you was here. How'd that go?
Speaker 5: My presence is felt, my presidence. But him and Coach
Speaker 5: Smith taught me a lesson. So playing against Eric Montrose,
Speaker 5: that's my guy. Rest in peace. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 5: in practice for the first you know, month or so,
Speaker 5: he's busting my ass. You know, I'm like shit because
Speaker 5: I'm still struck, like, oh ship he was. I just
Speaker 5: watched him a couple of months ago winning championships. So
Speaker 5: here I I'm practicing and playing against this dude. So
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, bet so first month he busted
Speaker 5: my ass and I'm like, man, bet I got his game.
Speaker 5: Here I am. We in practice. He goes for his
Speaker 5: jump hook. So with his jump pook, he always liked
Speaker 5: to just put the elbow out first and then go
Speaker 5: up with the right hand hook. I got you, I
Speaker 5: got it, I got it. Take the elbow. I stepped
Speaker 5: back and I'm jumping straight up. Block that shit. Right boom,
Speaker 5: we start to break block that shit to stack stack we.
Speaker 6: Out, let's go, we out, Boom, they come back down.
Speaker 5: Next time he clears me the fuck out smacks me
Speaker 5: all in my face. I'm talking about hearing me like this,
Speaker 5: Jon Pull. I'm like, oh, so, I'm like, okay, it's
Speaker 5: an accident. You could take that, you know, the first time,
Speaker 5: it's an accident. But when he came back down and
Speaker 5: did it again, same thing. Oh no, dog, we got
Speaker 5: to fight right there. I'm like, man, the fuck out
Speaker 5: of here. They're like, oh, you're gonna cut that shit out, coach.
Speaker 6: Oh no, we don't do that.
Speaker 5: We don't say that here.
Speaker 6: Oh give him a vest.
Speaker 5: So anytime you had to, you know, you you were
Speaker 5: getting disciplined by any of the coaches, you had to
Speaker 5: wear a weighted vest. Yo, run them laps.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 5: I had to run till Coach Smith told me to stop.
Speaker 5: So I ran for about maybe like ten minutes. But
Speaker 5: it was a learning lesson, you know, like, shit, I
Speaker 5: can't fuck I can't fuck with the All American Senior.
Speaker 2: Facts back to fiction. You actually like NBA Rep. Joy Crawford.
Speaker 2: That's my guy with him, that's my guy. It's from
Speaker 2: that Philadelphia area.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had our differences back in the day. But hey,
Speaker 5: like everything else, you know, we all got it something.
Speaker 5: I guarantee you if I ask y'all. Right now, how
Speaker 5: many in here don't like y'all coworkers?
Speaker 2: They don't want to raise their hand, they don't want
Speaker 2: to here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but hey, it was it was we was at work,
Speaker 5: but off of the cord. No, Joey a good dude,
Speaker 5: Philadelphia area dude. You know it does a lot of
Speaker 5: good charity work. So no, I Fox with Joey Crawford
Speaker 5: Quick hitters.
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind.
Speaker 2: Let us know, first team all dark alley U plus
Speaker 2: four going down a dark alley?
Speaker 1: Who you taking?
Speaker 5: Taking myself? I'm taking Ben Wallace, I'm taking uh Darvin
Speaker 5: ham Strong, I'm taking Isaiah j R. Rider Easy right rider.
Speaker 5: And at my point, like a dark alley situation, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna have to go with strict dying.
Speaker 6: Roger, strictly strictly dying.
Speaker 1: I ain't at that.
Speaker 5: Aggressive big point guard.
Speaker 3: Favorite spots to eat at during your time here in Detroit?
Speaker 5: Oh wow, we were up there in that whole little
Speaker 5: Birmingham area then, So it was a couple steak joints. Uh,
Speaker 5: it was shipped at what's that hotel up there where
Speaker 5: y'all used to stay at?
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 2: I was just asking you that night, what was that
Speaker 2: ship called the.
Speaker 1: Middle?
Speaker 2: I couldn't get burgers though, but.
Speaker 5: No, that you know, sitting up there the towns and
Speaker 5: then I would come down here I think at the time. Uh,
Speaker 5: Derek Coleman had a restaurant, Sweet Georgia Brown's that was
Speaker 5: open downtown Detroit. One more.
Speaker 2: That was one more.
Speaker 5: See, that's why I don't hang out with certain friends
Speaker 5: right there, because I heard what he said over there. No,
Speaker 5: that was not my favorite restaurant, the Strip Club Wings, No,
Speaker 5: that's not It was Jack's. I can't eat in that atmosphere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, six pieces of magic City right now?
Speaker 5: Right now, Oh, ship security, get this guy out of here.
Speaker 2: Your favorite Detroit memory as a Piston.
Speaker 6: Wows so many on off the court.
Speaker 1: Tell us one of each.
Speaker 5: On the court or dealing with basketball, I would say
Speaker 5: the parade that was cracking. It was over two million
Speaker 5: people that showed us.
Speaker 2: Well, really, that's dope.
Speaker 5: It was people hanging out of office buildings, hanging off.
Speaker 1: Of parking came downtown for that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were Jefferson Avenue came down there, and man,
Speaker 5: that was.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 5: That's that's what you wish for. That's that's nostalgic. That's
Speaker 5: what you wish for. You know when when weird little
Speaker 5: kids and you on a court and you know, you're like, oh,
Speaker 5: three two and this is for the championship, and they
Speaker 5: passed the ball and so and so and with you talking,
Speaker 5: that's about five seconds right there. And then you like
Speaker 5: one and you put the shot up and if you
Speaker 5: miss it, oh.
Speaker 1: He gets found.
Speaker 5: They gotta do it again. But if you hit it,
Speaker 5: you like they wouldn't you.
Speaker 2: That's what that felt like.
Speaker 5: I thought. I thought it was a great feeling when
Speaker 5: when in three City Titles when I was in high school,
Speaker 5: that parade.
Speaker 1: Nothing like it.
Speaker 5: To see them out there hanging out there showing us love,
Speaker 5: giving us love. Oh my gosh, bro, I'm telling you
Speaker 5: that was. That was it, you know, And you know
Speaker 5: they had us in some fly ass whips because it
Speaker 5: is the city of Detroit, so it's like, you know,
Speaker 5: they had us in the courfets and all that ship.
Speaker 5: So you know, we just waving real residential type, you know.
Speaker 5: But but it was it was lovely man, you know
Speaker 5: I got that. I got that film somewhere on an
Speaker 5: old school you'll remember the old school VHA quarters. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I got that somewhere. But man, it's wow. It was exhilarating.
Speaker 5: It was exhilarating. I can't lie, you know. And then
Speaker 5: going up there on the stage and then just seeing
Speaker 5: that massive crowd. You knows we love y'all. It's like
Speaker 5: it brings you to tears.
Speaker 2: Bro, I love it.
Speaker 4: With the Pistons in the playoffs right now and everything
Speaker 4: they got going on, what message would you send to
Speaker 4: the Pistons and the Pistons stands right now.
Speaker 5: Stay with him. Stay with him, y'all been with him
Speaker 5: for this long. Stay with him. The young fellas they
Speaker 5: you know, they getting it together. They back in it
Speaker 5: in the fight. Stay with him. Believe in them once
Speaker 5: they believe in themselves to be able to like, look,
Speaker 5: this one threshold that we face this year, win or lose.
Speaker 5: Our goal is to get to that next threshold. So now, okay,
Speaker 5: playoffs is nothing.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: We made the playoffs last year, last couple of years.
Speaker 5: So now we gotta get out this first round. That's
Speaker 5: our goal. Get out of first round. So guys just
Speaker 5: got to keep fighting. It's gonna be a bitch. It's
Speaker 5: going to scrap.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know you're gonna feel like the rest is against
Speaker 5: you everything, but hey, you gotta go out there and
Speaker 5: do it no matter what. And you got the city
Speaker 5: behind you. Now. You know what I'm saying. It's been
Speaker 5: so long since since the fans felt this feeling like,
Speaker 5: oh you gotta you gotta eat that energy up. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. When you in the building, I
Speaker 5: know it's gonna be crazy tomorrow. You know, y'all know
Speaker 5: Mason's gonna come with the whole Detroit basketball everything, the firewords, smoke,
Speaker 5: all that shit is yo. The atmosphere is going to
Speaker 5: be there. They just gotta thrive off of it.
Speaker 2: She Man, We want to thank you. I appreciate you, Bro,
Speaker 2: We love you. Thank you for what you've done to
Speaker 2: the game, for the city of Detroit and spending some
Speaker 2: time with us.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Give it up for Rashee Wallace.
Speaker 5: Man. Appreciate y'all, Love you all, man.
Speaker 1: I love you all again.
Speaker 2: Thank you the StockX for having us out. It's been
Speaker 2: a joy. We can't wait to come back. Thank you
Speaker 2: guys for coming out. We'll be around a little bit
Speaker 2: for a meet and greet and then we got to
Speaker 2: dip off and smoke a little bit. But man, enjoy yourself,
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, and have a good one. Well that
Speaker 2: was the Chapelle ship, wasn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeahs a pleasure for me to have the Great Charlie
Speaker 5: Murphy rest in peace.
Speaker 3: Say come on, God, damn it.
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