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Speaker 2: Detroit, Detroit, Detroit, what up though, Detroit?

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Speaker 1: We in here? What up? Don't hey?

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Speaker 2: The Pistons are in the playoffs and they win it. Man, life,

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Speaker 2: life should be good out here right now. First of all,

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Speaker 2: and give yourself a roundom applause to the family. You

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Speaker 2: stock X. We appreciate you guys. Man, we we out here, Detroit.

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Speaker 2: We had we're supposed to do a show here last year.

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Speaker 2: I fucked that up. I apologize, well, actually my kids

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Speaker 3: A good dad.

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Speaker 4: It's very few good dads, Ross and Matten and being

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Speaker 2: Blame it on them. But nevertheless, man, we're back. We're

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Speaker 2: really excited again. Shout out to stock X. We got

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Speaker 2: some great guests. We're gonna have some great conversations.

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Speaker 1: Stack.

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Speaker 2: You got a little bit of history with this city

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Speaker 2: right here. You almost got beat them. Was beat the

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Speaker 2: shit out of you out here, you know, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what, you know what's crazy, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: Or none of that.

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Speaker 4: They love the fact that I'm a RIDA and Detroit

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Speaker 1: Want to and be good, and be good, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Z, Shout out everybody out of the day.

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Speaker 2: Man, You're lucky that it was out in the Auburn

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Speaker 2: Well again, we're really excited to be here and without

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Speaker 2: boy uh one of the hottest young rappers in this space.

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Speaker 2: Also a big time gamer. I'm interested to learn a

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show man T Grizzily.

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Speaker 5: May sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Let's start there, Yes, sir, forever my moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm releasing Yeah, what's your fans expect when this

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Speaker 1: Out in the drop. So this album it's all me,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. There's no features, no filters,

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Speaker 1: no none of them features, none of it just me,

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Speaker 1: for the people that's out there grinding and chasing their

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Speaker 4: Man, I mean you ten years ago, you was in prison,

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Speaker 4: you know, and you pop out today. I mean bigger

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Speaker 3: And salute to all that too, because a lot of

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Speaker 4: We've seen a lot of people not bounce back, but

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Bro, So my thing I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 1: I create a vision in my head or who I

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Speaker 3: Detroit rap scene is, how has it ever been?

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Speaker 4: How do you feel being one of the you know,

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Speaker 4: We talk about Detroit hip hop, define that for people

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Speaker 1: Detroit hip hop for me through my lens, is this

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Speaker 2: I'm from Northern California Bay Area Sacramento area. So anytime

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We gonna find a way

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Speaker 1: What would you like in both of them? I was good.

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Speaker 2: Did you box to Yeah? I boxed, And so I

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Speaker 1: Man, I really ain't have a way to get back

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Speaker 1: I wanted to, but I just I just couldn't.

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Speaker 2: Growing up, what's your fondest memories about the city of Detroit.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of different moments, Bro. It'd be going

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Speaker 3: The first day out Pistons playoff anthem.

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Speaker 4: How does this feel to half that, you know, being

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Speaker 1: Man? It was amazing. Bro. First of all, the feeling,

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Speaker 1: the feeling is crazy. I remember, this is your city,

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Speaker 1: that's your team. Yeah. Yeah, it showed you to get going.

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Speaker 1: But I remember I was in like the fourth fifth grade.

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Speaker 1: it's like a complete full circle moment. Even though it moved,

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Speaker 1: you know, he said they knew they's had a tap in. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's really priceless though, like being a you can't get

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Speaker 4: So I think at this moment, you know, we're talking

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Speaker 4: think we have a StockX gifting moment. Fatigu Grizzly. Oh

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Speaker 4: yeah yeah, so you can be fresh for the game.

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Speaker 4: Shout out stock X one more games. You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Stock as.

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Speaker 2: One that my phone is on hold on real quick, bro.

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Speaker 1: It feel amazing, bro, It feel amazing, Like the vibe

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Speaker 3: Sure, Let's get back to the game of presence.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you got a huge you got over one point

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Speaker 1: So I'm being honest, bro, I probably was a gamer

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Speaker 2: I saw you talk to the dudes for the million

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Speaker 2: explain what that is, because I mean, you could put

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Speaker 2: They be You put real life ship in the game

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Speaker 2: Bro. Did you ever think you'd be paid to play

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Speaker 1: Though? Never, and you're making good money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure. It's it's I encourage anybody

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Speaker 2: So when I be on at the fucking Twins to

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Speaker 1: And let them do their thing. Let them do the man,

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Speaker 3: How did your sneaker taste develop over time?

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Speaker 1: Sneaker tastes develop over time. Be honest with you, and

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Speaker 3: Waiting in line and thathing like that ain't no getting on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't doing none of that now because you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you balance gaming? Fatherhood music? And you're

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Speaker 1: Man, I would say you need an assistant and a planer, Bro.

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Speaker 1: For real, everything has to be scheduled, even stuff you

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Speaker 4: A lot of stuff going on, you know, in the streets,

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Speaker 4: and you know, for the youth, what was some what's

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Speaker 1: So for the youth, man to the to the youth.

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Speaker 1: You feel me I learned right there, Like all right, bet,

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Speaker 1: y'all serious, you feel me? It up, he said, I've learned.

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Speaker 1: Just everybody wish they didn't do it, So just don't.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you, bro, I appreciate y'all. Definitely want to

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Speaker 2: So we'll line up with you and figure out when

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Speaker 4: But thank you for your time. I need that gameing

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Speaker 4: Don't let them life. He lost hand to hand combat

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Speaker 4: in that game. He's hacking with a knife like Jason.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, ain't it. They say you can't.

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Speaker 2: Bring an to a gul fight, But I think he's

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Speaker 3: It's like this nigga just hit.

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Speaker 5: Me with an.

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Speaker 2: He's from long.

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Speaker 3: Range, from Tom Brady range.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna show you how he don't play the game.

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Speaker 4: What new map just dropped? Don't say nothing, what new

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, don't be what sniper you run? I don't

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Speaker 2: He's been smoking. Don't believe the bullshit, but knowing man,

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Speaker 2: y'all give it up. Grizzy man. We appreciate you, brother,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, dog, appreciate you. Our next guest is the

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Speaker 2: NBA champion found a home out here in Detroit. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the show. Rashid Wallace by sheid, what's up? My brother?

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Speaker 5: What it does?

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Speaker 1: What's happening? Baby?

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Speaker 5: You good man? Sat same can't complain?

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Speaker 2: Hey, so I hear she like two weeks ago, I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 2: we're doing a live show. StockX said they need you

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Speaker 2: your fan favorite. Let me know your information. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: fly you out here. Take care of you take. She's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm in, but I'm gonna drive. I said, what, this

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Speaker 2: motherfucker drove eleven hours here from North Carolina just to

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Speaker 2: be here with you, guys, man, So give it up

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Speaker 2: from she Yes, sir, oh no, driving is my thing.

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Speaker 5: I ain't even gonna lie. That's that's my thing.

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Speaker 2: You came here in one of the biggest trade deadline

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Speaker 2: play the game two days, one game Hawks versus the Nets. Stack,

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Speaker 2: you're out of here for some real basketball because you

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Speaker 1: So pick up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was playing men's gym at U c l

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Speaker 2: A with Stack. Those are all summer league numbers. Don't

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Speaker 5: Man, it was lovely.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: We were just sitting there as me stacked JT and uh,

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Speaker 2: I know, paint the picture for everybody. What was y'all

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Speaker 5: Like right now, all right, we're all chilling in here

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Speaker 5: right now, right girl playing and that ship just came

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Speaker 5: everybody like oh you know, that's how we was.

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Speaker 2: We looked at him like did you just see that?

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Speaker 5: I was like, look, I'm looking at my phone like

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Speaker 2: That like nigga, is that you That's how I looked

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Speaker 5: Was like, man, we you know, we was like damn

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Speaker 5: though it was good, it was lovely. I felt rejuvenated,

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Speaker 5: you know, playing with some some younger guys who got

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Speaker 5: Terry Stotts is our coach, so it was it was good.

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Speaker 5: But then when I got that call, so I'm like,

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Speaker 1: It's still play ball.

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Speaker 5: The funny thing about it, I'm with Portland and we

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Speaker 5: came here to Detroit like about two weeks prior to

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Speaker 5: the trade. I'm talking big ship man, y'all can't stop us,

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Speaker 5: y'all ain't ship this and that man being the funk

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Speaker 5: out of here, and.

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Speaker 1: Y'all know how I go, right, But it wasn't personal,

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Speaker 1: you know, so the game.

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Speaker 5: So it is during a game, part of the game.

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Speaker 5: So then I get traded, right, so boom, I'm here

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Speaker 5: and I meet the gods.

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00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, just talking to everybody.

437
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 4: Bro.

438
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,879
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, you know that wasn't you know some

439
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,960
Speaker 5: serious shit I was talking, you know, a couple of

440
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 5: weeks ago. You know, it's all part of the game.

441
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,120
Speaker 5: So you know, everybody just laughed. It off and everything,

442
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 5: but no, it was it was a brotherhood, man, and

443
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 5: and coming here with that team, who would have thought?

444
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 5: Who would have thought? Everybody on that team was solid.

445
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 5: Everybody on that team was solid veterans, of course, except

446
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,119
Speaker 5: for our more younger players, but man, everybody was a

447
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 5: journeyman if you look at it. On that team, myself,

448
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,119
Speaker 5: Ben Rick, the only one who was an original was

449
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 5: take Shawn, Yeah, and other than that, everybody else was

450
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 5: a journeyman. Even even our bench d Ham, Eldon Campbell

451
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 5: Orles Williamson, you know, everybody else was a journeyman. And

452
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 5: it was like, man, we we but we got it though.

453
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 5: We got what it meant to be in the league.

454
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 5: We got what it meant like, look all these motherfucking

455
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 5: games count, and man, by most times graces we clicked

456
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 5: and boom. We just went out there and you know,

457
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,919
Speaker 5: did what we did? You know we got We do

458
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 5: have one record with that team that I know for sure,

459
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 5: especially in today's era, will never be broken. Nope, we

460
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 5: held I think it was either six or seven teams

461
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 5: under something like seventy points for seven straight games. That'll

462
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 5: never be done again. And the thing is we didn't

463
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 5: even try to do it. We were just out there playing,

464
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 5: just us being us. We didn't even try to do that.

465
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 2: We was like, oh shit, LB was y'all coach Larry

466
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 2: Brown man pound for pound? Well like for LB, LB

467
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 2: is not. What was it like fucking with LB?

468
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 5: I see, I see. Larry Brown was a mad scientist.

469
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 5: For those who know basketball, you know, of course LB

470
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 5: has been a great coach in a lot of places

471
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 5: that he went championships or conference championships something. He's a

472
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 5: mad scientist man. He you know, did some things that

473
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 5: Coach Smith did. And when I say coach Smith, Dean

474
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 5: Smith down in Carolina, you know that was his mentor

475
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 5: as well. So when he did some of the things

476
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 5: that Coach Smith did, Like okay, let's say during the

477
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 5: regular season, we got to play called three circle. It's

478
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 5: for you three circle. So it's gonna be me and

479
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 5: Jack setting the screen for you coming off on a

480
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 5: double for you to go to week's side so they

481
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 5: don't come playoff time. All right, We're going to do

482
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,719
Speaker 5: three circle. But here's the wrinkle. Everybody expecting you to

483
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 5: come off, so they trying to prepare for it and

484
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 5: jump it. So now all it is is me back

485
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 5: screen Jack and now Jack coming off and then you

486
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 5: hitting me and then I'm popping out or whatever the case.

487
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ship.

488
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 6: But it's like, yo, who the fuck would have thought

489
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 6: of that?

490
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: The wrinkle?

491
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like wrinkle, Like.

492
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 5: It's a hard wrinkle. And but LB's a mad scientist, man,

493
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 5: He's He's one of the best coaches I've.

494
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:57,719
Speaker 1: Ever played for.

495
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had LB and Charlotte super probably my best year. Yeah,

496
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 4: I had my best year. We got into the playoffs though. Yeah,

497
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: coming from Portland in Atlanta, how does it feel? You know, men,

498
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 4: you both are active in the communities that we play in.

499
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 4: How does it feel to have the city of Detroit

500
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 4: embrace you like they did when you came in?

501
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: Oh?

502
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 5: Man, it was lovely. It was lovely. And I think

503
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 5: that hell precedents to the point where Ship. I was

504
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 5: out in the streets.

505
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm out on the streets, on the streets because y'all

506
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 2: play they Yeah, yeah, we played.

507
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: This way though.

508
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,719
Speaker 5: I frequent and out here downtown Joy Road, you know,

509
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 5: just just hanging out.

510
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 6: You know, I'm out in these streets and and.

511
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 5: The city embraced me though, And that's what I love

512
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 5: you know, because for the simple fact, I think they

513
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 5: embraced the blue collar ness because of the way that

514
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 5: the city is. And look, y'all see me now, I

515
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 5: ain't flashy, I ain't got no ice. You know, that's

516
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 5: that's just my persona. And and I think that's one

517
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 5: of the things at the city embraced, like, Yo, this

518
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 5: is every day dude, you know this and that. I'm like, shit, yeah,

519
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 5: I do go to the market for myself by myself,

520
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 5: this and.

521
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: That, so I am.

522
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 5: But it's just the fact my job you see on TV,

523
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 5: I'm the nine to fives entertainment.

524
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: I'm just like y'all.

525
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that but the city embraced that. And man,

526
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 5: I didn't have a problem going anywhere. It was mad

527
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 5: love everywhere downtown, you know, in different sections, you know,

528
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 5: East Detroit, West Detroit. It was all loved because why

529
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 5: we all represented the city and then they knew we

530
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 5: were some killers.

531
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, straight up.

532
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 3: We all dealt with some bad press.

533
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of a lot of times people

534
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: misunderstood your passion for the game and use things off

535
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 4: the court, you know, different nicknames and the press that

536
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 4: did anytime the n of that ever bother you or

537
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: deter you from being who you are.

538
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: I know the answer, but I'm answering.

539
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 5: No, it didn't. But I actually honestly gave it some

540
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 5: thought one time, though at the time I was married

541
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 5: in Portland.

542
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna crack up with this.

543
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 5: So I know, y'all remember the incident with Damon stottle

544
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 5: Myron and I when you know, if they don't explain it, well,

545
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 5: we were we were coming back from Seattle during the game,

546
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 5: and you know, we got pulled over. The cops said

547
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 5: we had weed and this, and that we didn't have

548
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 5: it because I already smoked my jay, it was already gone.

549
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 5: It was so I knew you had had ship with

550
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 5: a d on end I had so hey past tense

551
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 5: and you know, we got into a little trouble. So

552
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 5: on the way home, I'm like, man, I don't think

553
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 5: they're gonna show this on Sports Center the next day.

554
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: Before you get there.

555
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 2: I don't mean to cut you off, didn't I heard

556
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: is urban did the team bus pass y'all when he

557
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: was pulled over on the side of the road.

558
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get to that.

559
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: So here it is.

560
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 5: You know, they pulled us over, and so it's a

561
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 5: rookie cop. So you know, of course you got two

562
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 5: NBA guys. Man, man, it should look good on my record.

563
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 5: It's a name for myself. So I'm like, all right,

564
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 5: So the rookie cop, you know, boom, he out there,

565
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 5: he got us, and the lights is flashing. The mind

566
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 5: you if you know most of you guys ever drove

567
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 5: on a dark road. Let's say y'all drove from here

568
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 5: to Indiana or here to Chicago, something like that. Right,

569
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 5: you know you're going to run into a dark road

570
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 5: with no fucking lights. Right, So here we are Boom,

571
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 5: we on the road, no lights. So all we see

572
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 5: coming around and being we see some flash, some big

573
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 5: lights and all they see is the flashing lights.

574
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 6: In the darkness. Hey that's the bus right there.

575
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 5: Team bus go by were like, oh damn, So the

576
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 5: team bus pulled off for a second, you know, they

577
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 5: pulled over. The PR guy got out for a second.

578
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 5: Damn No, they got off the bus. But no, it

579
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 5: was just a PR dude. And you know the cop

580
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 5: the cop did is you know, you stepped back this night?

581
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 5: He got back on the bus.

582
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: All right.

583
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 5: So I ain't mad at him for that because I

584
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: would have been like, let's leave too. So we're like,

585
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 5: oh man. So then boom, next morning, I wake up

586
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 5: and on ESPN and so my ex wife she's my

587
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 5: ex wife today, but at the time she was my wife.

588
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 5: She's like, oh, what did you do this and that that?

589
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 5: I'm like waking she waking me up, hitting me and Ship,

590
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, what what's happening?

591
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: What's happening?

592
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 5: What did you do this?

593
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: And that? That? You on TV? I'm like, what are

594
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: you talking about? Ain't nothing happened. I ain't do nothing.

595
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 6: I ain't get no text, I ain't been cracking nothing.

596
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm chilling.

597
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 5: We ain't have a game, no text. She turned the

598
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 5: TV on and then talking about the traffic stop, right,

599
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh, Ship, yeah, So you know I

600
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 5: had to be real with her. It happened and this

601
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 5: and that. Right, But the funniest part of that. So

602
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 5: we at home one night chilling la la la la.

603
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: La, watching watching The Chapelle Show.

604
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 5: Right, So we're chilling, and you know, they got I

605
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 5: think it's a segment he had when keeping the Real

606
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 5: Goals wrong or something like that. Right, So they had

607
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 5: the cop walking down the street with the baton and

608
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 5: he's seen a car with the windows up all smoky.

609
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 5: He taps on the window and rolls the window down,

610
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: and it's Charlie Murphy and Ashy Larry and all you

611
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 5: see is smoke come out of the car and Charlie Murphy.

612
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 5: All he said was Rashi all.

613
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: My wife was mad as fuck ya.

614
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: But me, I am on the floor.

615
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 2: That's legendary, legendary.

616
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm crying, my stomach hurting, my face hurting from

617
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: laughing so hard, and.

618
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 6: You're under arrest.

619
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: Rush sheet while up it's not.

620
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 5: And it was nothing else that I could do. So

621
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 5: she was like, see, see, that's that bullshit, and now

622
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 5: your son's got to go to school and list.

623
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn.

624
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 5: I was like, that's the only time out of my

625
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 5: whole career, I really felt bad. Other than that, as

626
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 5: far as a text on the court that I'm justified,

627
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 5: it was still kind of dope.

628
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: Though it was still kind of dope.

629
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 5: Though it was funny to me, Yeah, it was hilarious,

630
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 5: but she didn't find it funny, like even to this day,

631
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 5: I might catch it.

632
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: Oh I'm crying, I'm crying.

633
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: I had something similar to Kanye West with the ship

634
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 2: he talked about me and I think it's funny, but

635
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: my ex wife still be getting mad at that shot.

636
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm about to drive.

637
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: Like Matt Boss. Just WHI A nigga.

638
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 5: Asked, Hey, it's life life, It's urban legend.

639
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: Now it's above us exactly. Still active in the Detroit

640
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: the community visit Flint consistently during the water crisis.

641
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: Where does that stand?

642
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: We talked to mo'cleves last summer and he said, it's

643
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: still not as good as it needs to be. But

644
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: why do you feel it's important to give back to

645
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: a community that gave you so much?

646
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 5: It's still fucked up in Flint. To be honest, I'll

647
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 5: say it no sense. Nobody else do. But it's what

648
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 5: I grew up with. Man, It's what I grew up with,

649
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 5: you know. It was It was crazy that the day

650
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: that I took my family and my friends up there

651
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: from North Carolina from Philly, ran into an organization called

652
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 5: New Era Detroit and they was out there doing the

653
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 5: same things we were doing. I was like, shit, can

654
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 5: we walk with y'all? Cause you know, we got a

655
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 5: truckload full of stuff? They had a truckload full of stuff,

656
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 5: and it's like he was like, yeah, you know the

657
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 5: leader Zeke. He was like, yeah, come on, you know,

658
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 5: because it's all for us, so all for the people

659
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 5: up there in Flint, you know, whoever needed it. And

660
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: so we was going door to door and then just

661
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 5: doing a lot of things here. When I was playing here,

662
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 5: you know, out of Kettering High School and just being

663
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 5: again in the community in the daytime and nighttime, your

664
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 5: presence is felt. It was fun. It was good though,

665
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 5: but it was much needed, you know, just to let

666
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 5: the people know, like yo, I was in that same situation.

667
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 5: So y'all not alone. So everything that I could do,

668
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 5: that's what I tried to do for the city of Detroit.

669
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: Everything that I do or did here in the city Detroit,

670
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: I tried to do in the city of Philadelphia, the

671
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 5: city of Portland, DC when I played there, wherever I go. Yeah,

672
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: because man, it's universal, you know, it's that that lower

673
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 5: income is universal. Bro, it don't matter what city.

674
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: Talk to us about them early. This is kind of

675
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: off script, but you mentioned DC. You had you C

676
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: Webb and Juwan Howard rod strickland Mark Price, Mark Price

677
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: talked to us about them early DC days, and I

678
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: mean a power forward heaven over there with you three

679
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: over there in particular, Man, you.

680
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 5: Wanted me to tell you the truth about that. It

681
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 5: wasn't even a learning lesson on the court. It was

682
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: more of a learning lesson off.

683
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: Of the court.

684
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 5: Explain that I had veteran players, I had a veteran

685
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 5: power for by the name of Bob McCann. He was

686
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: the first one to really break taxes down to me.

687
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 5: You know, as a young and coming up, we're not

688
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 5: thinking about you. Hear about tax season and it's like, oh,

689
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 5: that's when you get all the money back and cook

690
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 5: everybody in the hood, everybody talking our taxes, taxes, taxes

691
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: right now. It was like, we get there. But and

692
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: that's what he broke down to me. He was like,

693
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 5: he's like, young fella, he was like, you're in a

694
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 5: different tax bracket now, you know. He's like, you know

695
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: your mom growing up and your aunties and all of them.

696
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: He's like, no, you're not in that tax bracket no more.

697
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 5: Where you're getting back them a couple of hundred dollars

698
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 5: and this and that. You know you're going to do

699
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: this and have to do that, And he, you know,

700
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: broke the whole tax thing down to me, and I'm like, damn.

701
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 5: And then you know, just breaking it all down about

702
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 5: all right now you're traveling, like, hey, look, you know

703
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna have different things this and that. He's like, man,

704
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 5: he was like, you a good kid, and you don't

705
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: need to get caught up in that bullshit out there

706
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 5: with them chicks who be in the hotels and.

707
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: All of that stuff.

708
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 5: And you know, I'm like, man, I said, I feel

709
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: you eventually. I did eventually, but that's another story.

710
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: You got experience as the best teacher exactly.

711
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: And but it was just everything about life, not even basketball, bro.

712
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 5: It was life that they taught me. That bab mccannn

713
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 5: taught me, that Sea Web taught me, that Jawan taught me,

714
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 5: you know, and and that whole team Mark Price again

715
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: playing with him? What who? I never thought in God's

716
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 5: Green Earth that I would play with Mark Price. I

717
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 5: grew up watching him. We're playing with him on the

718
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 5: video games Live and all that shit. You but to

719
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 5: play with him, so all right, that's that's that's thorough.

720
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 1: You know.

721
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 5: I definitely accepted and respected that because it's like, damn,

722
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 5: last year I was watching you with Cleveland and he

723
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 5: was falling in the playoffs, and here I am this

724
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 5: year playing with you.

725
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: That was a time back, though, when we really used

726
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: to practice and the first team would go at the

727
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: second team. Tell me what it's like for a young you.

728
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: And although Webb and Juwan were both young, what was

729
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: it like those battles and practice between three of the

730
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: best young power forwards in the game at the time.

731
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 5: First, I was starstruck, to be honest, I'm not gonna lie,

732
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: because I was just watching those guys play. At the

733
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 5: University of Michigan. They changed the fashion rules, you know,

734
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 5: the big baggy shorts and uniforms and socks and yup

735
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 5: and you know, the shoes and all. They changed it,

736
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 5: and of course we all was affected by that. You

737
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. We all had that little fab

738
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 5: five venus. And so I'm like, damn, I'm playing with

739
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: two of them. I'm playing with Chris and Juwan.

740
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 6: I'm like, man, And I was.

741
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 5: A big fan of them, and just to but to

742
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 5: hear the basketball knowledge that they gave me, you know,

743
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, bet, and here I am

744
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 5: the second team. It's myself, Robert, Pat Tim Legler, uh

745
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 5: Don McLain, who went to u C. L A and

746
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 5: I'm missing oh uh and second five, damn, damn.

747
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: His name is on the tip of my Tonguebert mcelvain, Oh,

748
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: Jim mcelevain.

749
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 5: Oh, that's second five. So that second team. So we're

750
00:33:51,160 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 5: going against trash Mark Price, Calbert Cheney, Mitchell Butler Webb

751
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: and Juwan or they could have through you know, Big

752
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: George and there George mure sign depending on how his

753
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 5: knees felt, you know, with practice stuff. But man, that

754
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 5: ship a learning lesson for sure. Battles got my ass beat,

755
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 5: but it's a learning lesson. Came back the next day. Yeah,

756
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 5: I'm sore, I'm hurting, but you got to come back

757
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 5: the next day. It's all part of it.

758
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it different kind of different times. Some

759
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: of our best memories in Golden State were off the court.

760
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: Can you share any funny most of them, all of them,

761
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: all of them. Can you share some of your off

762
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: the court stuff here that you can share. I mean,

763
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: you told us the crazy story about when you guys

764
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: won a championship and you went home and did what

765
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: you had to do, But can you tell us any

766
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: fun stories about this this team in particular.

767
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure. I'll definitely give y'all g rated.

768
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 3: Story I think they want are there ain't no shit

769
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: if you want now.

770
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 5: She guys are grown down and their coaches here and there.

771
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: You know, I got you keep it g keep it

772
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: g my bad.

773
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 5: But I will mention one guy because this is my guy.

774
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 5: He's crazy. So here we are, we're defending the championship.

775
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 5: We go to Atlanta, so that's when you know everywhere

776
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 5: I carried the belt and all that shit. Right, So

777
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 5: we all go out to eat. It's about all in all,

778
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 5: it's about fifteen of us. It's about maybe six or

779
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: seven guys on the team, but you know, we got

780
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 5: a couple of homies with us and this and that.

781
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 5: So we go out to eat. Everybody have a good

782
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 5: time eating, drinking. Boom, we get full. So now we

783
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 5: hopping the cabs. No ubers. Back then it was.

784
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: Cabs and carry you had that belt with you at

785
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: all these places.

786
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so you know, guys hopping cabs and you know,

787
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 5: for some of the friends that was local. You know,

788
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 5: they drove, but we all pulled up to the spot

789
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 5: right boom. We in Atlanta go to the club, so

790
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 5: mind you all you see the big mob cats ranging

791
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 5: from like six two six three to about like seven

792
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 5: seven to one, right, like damn, hey, yo, hey yo.

793
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna need y'all here at the front door.

794
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 5: So, you know, as we're walking up getting out the car,

795
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 5: a we seen, that's your security came. So who's leading

796
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 5: the charge, the shortest dude out the bunch, Lindsey Hunter,

797
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 5: it's my guy. It's my guy, right, So he's leading

798
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 5: the charge. So we all four, you know, we all four? Right,

799
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 5: So he walks up and you know Lynz strolling like

800
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: George Jefferson and boom walks. He's just walking through. So

801
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 5: the security like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Where are you going? Man?

802
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 6: He's like, man what He's like, hold up, man, you can't.

803
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 5: Just walk in here like that. We need to see

804
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 5: some ID. So lindsay did the old school Dragonfly Jones,

805
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 5: like like, like, man, you see you know who we are.

806
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 5: He's like, man, we don't pistons, man, we don't pistons.

807
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 5: And he's like, all right, but I still need to

808
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 5: see some ID, Like you want to see some ID.

809
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 5: And at the time I was wearing a championship ring.

810
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 5: I didn't bring the belt to the club because I

811
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 5: didn't want to leave it or no shit, but so

812
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 5: I just had to ring on right. And then he

813
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 5: was like, Lindsay said, you want to see our id

814
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 5: ray show them my I D. I showed the security

815
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 5: that ring. That bitch was blinging. Lindsay was like, that's

816
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 5: our I d chump and just walked on through the door.

817
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 5: And hey, we walked on the door behind you.

818
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: It took like land.

819
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 5: It was lovely though, but we always went together in

820
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 5: the group.

821
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: Man, that's dope.

822
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 4: Big walk us through what a game day routine looks like.

823
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: For she from when you wake up.

824
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: Don't leave nothing out everything, don't leave nothing out, all the.

825
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: Medicine and stuff you need to get ready for a

826
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: day's game, y'all.

827
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 5: Something else.

828
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 6: I just want to let y'all know.

829
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 5: No, it was fun, though, so more daily routine. Let's

830
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 5: say game day, wake up, take the kids to school,

831
00:37:51,680 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 5: come home, blow one, chill out, go to practice or around,

832
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 5: depending on you know what it is, practice, shoot around, boom.

833
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: After that, maybe with one or two of the guys,

834
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 5: a couple guys on the team, we might catch lunch somewhere.

835
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 5: Then we all got to break up right after that,

836
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 5: cause we got to pick the kids up from school.

837
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 5: So go pick the kids up from school, come home,

838
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: do homework. It's my turn to cook. My wife she

839
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 5: did the homework. You know. It was always just everybody

840
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 5: had their role.

841
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: Even on the game day, I like all this, Oh yeah, oh.

842
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 5: No, no, I took it. Yeah, sure, but I mean

843
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 5: just just the regular routine. It's just like, you know,

844
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 5: if it was my turn to cook's and we had

845
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 5: a game, that's the only time I got an excuse

846
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 5: other than that, even if I wanted to hang out.

847
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 5: She was like, I don't give a fuck. You better

848
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 5: make sure that y'all there's some food in there and

849
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 5: the dishes done all that. I respected that, all right.

850
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: I made sure the kitchen was clean, food, all that stuff.

851
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 5: But on game day, yeah, take my neck. She picked

852
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 5: the kids up from school, go to the game. On

853
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 5: the way the game might blow one or might blow

854
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: one when I wake up, but then go to the game,

855
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 5: so I'm in the right frame of mind. And because

856
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 5: I live right down the street from the palace. But man,

857
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 5: I loved it. It was It was nice short ride,

858
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 5: quick ride going to the game, and man, once you

859
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: step in between them lines, it's it's lovely. I just

860
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 5: want to let y'all know, it's a whole different atmosphere.

861
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 5: So y'all, y'all see it from one side. And and

862
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 5: for those who did go to the palace and around

863
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 5: this time, that playoff time, y'all understand like the thickness

864
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 5: of the atmosphere, you know what I'm saying. And man,

865
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 5: just just to see that once you step in the lines,

866
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 5: smell that popcorn and to see everybody up there, and

867
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 5: all you hear.

868
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: Is try.

869
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 5: The whole arena state fire be fired.

870
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 2: That's doe, give it up, that's dope.

871
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: Y'all have. Y'all have always had.

872
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 2: An amazing home court advantage.

873
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: Were talking about this earlier today.

874
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: Stocks like when you came when y'all was good coming here,

875
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: even not during the playoff, during the regular season, like

876
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: during the announcements and the fire all that was just like, god, damn,

877
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: it's a real shit right here.

878
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: Man.

879
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 6: Man, hey Mason, he's the genius.

880
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: Man.

881
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 5: You know, he came up with the whole Detroit basketball slogan.

882
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 5: And so I had to protect my guy one day.

883
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 5: You know, we in Cleveland, and so I'm about to

884
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 5: check into the game. So I'm sitting at the scorers table,

885
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: and you know, just so happened that somebody from Detroit.

886
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 6: I can't remember who, but you know, hit the.

887
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 5: Ball out of bounds and the guys talking about something

888
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 5: Cleveland's basketball. Hey you you uh uh uh uh No,

889
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 5: don't don't try to copy my man. Don't try to

890
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: copy my man. Don't do that. Don't it's only one.

891
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 5: Don't do that. Come up with your own slogan. And

892
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 5: then I checked into the game. It's only one man.

893
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 5: Mason was a genius at that man the way he

894
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 5: announced everybody on a team name, not just the starters,

895
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 5: with everybody out, the energy and man, he elect that

896
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 5: crowd y'all. He's still here during the morning show. Mason

897
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: in the morning.

898
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: To cut off sweats, Where did that come from? Sweat

899
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: and the pulled out pockets? Yeah, every little different with

900
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: your ship. But you have motherfuckers throughout the league. I

901
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: was one of them to this day. They cut off sweat. Now,

902
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: how did that come about? You have some cut off

903
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: warm up sweats on last night?

904
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 5: Actually that I did that. I did the inside out

905
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 5: pockets first, came when I was playing in college. It's like, like,

906
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 5: you know, shit, I ain't got no money. So it

907
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 5: was my sign to myself, I'm hungry. I gotta get

908
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 5: some money. I'm hungry because if your pockets are inside out,

909
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 5: can't ship go in there, ain't no money going in there,

910
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 5: and you can't even get no lint in there. But

911
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 5: once you get some money, you can go ahead and

912
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 5: put them pockets the right way. So it was just

913
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 5: a little lesson with that. But as far as the

914
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 5: cut off sweats, I started doing that in Portland when

915
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 5: I got traded, because the rain out there always rained

916
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 5: out there, and you know, it was a little bit

917
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 5: more chillier. Not necessarily the snow cold, but that rain

918
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: cold is a different type of fucking cold. And Hey

919
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: started practicing with sweatpants. And then one day the bottom

920
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 5: of my sweatpants got caught under the heel of my

921
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 5: shoe and oh it's a little slip, all right, all right,

922
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 5: once it's out for a couple of weeks, you know.

923
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 5: But that's when I was like, Hey, told the trainer, Hey,

924
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 5: bring me them scissors, And from then it kept my

925
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 5: knees warm. That was the biggest thing. About it playing

926
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 5: in Portland and a lot of cold arenas. If you

927
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 5: think about it back then when we played, there's a

928
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 5: lot of heikes.

929
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: There's an ice heights on the floor.

930
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 6: So that shit was cold as fucking there, you know.

931
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: And so let me go ahead, warm these old ass

932
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 5: knees up like a fifty seven Chevy man. Just practice

933
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 5: with these sweatpants on and cut them off. Yeah, they

934
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 5: was cut off, probably up to like right about.

935
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: Here, and shit was flying still fly.

936
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 5: And but no, you know, you know where I knew

937
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 5: I made an impact. I think I can't remember if

938
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 5: it was Nike or Adidas. I seen it one day.

939
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: They started making those kinds of shorts.

940
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, yeah, I said, making us.

941
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: Like she used to cut them.

942
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: But then the NBA, I don't know what what Sprouncer

943
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: were with at the time. They started making shorts a

944
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: little bit longer, but it still looked cooler because they

945
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: had the seams all to see. I didn't like the

946
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: scenes I like to cut off. Look, you know, the

947
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 2: little they definitely try to bite your ship.

948
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Though.

949
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 5: Hey I'm from Philly.

950
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: We trend setters, as you should be.

951
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 5: When did pregame dance come into play pre game dance

952
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 5: right here, Yeah, pregame dance used to be honest.

953
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: Can they catch you doing this in the clubs out here? No, okay,

954
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: just making.

955
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 5: Sure that was just pregame dan, to be honest, it

956
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 5: came from the people. It came from the energy of

957
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 5: the crowd, because during when Mason was announcing our names,

958
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 5: the crowd was hyped. Everything was all It was just

959
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 5: that energy. We all like, I felt their energy and

960
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 5: I did a special tribute as well. Like and only

961
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 5: in the playoffs. Every time we made the playoffs, I

962
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 5: would point this way, and the whole crow.

963
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: I point this way and every which way I would point.

964
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 5: I would point all four direct wrestler man like a wrestler,

965
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 5: and the crowd to be hype, and it's like.

966
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: Let's get this shit going, this shit going.

967
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 6: And it was just exciting and just being silly and

968
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 6: having fun.

969
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Man.

970
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 5: You know, everybody think that basketball players is always mad

971
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 5: and this and that no were out there having fun too,

972
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 5: stepping between them lines. But I loved it, man. It

973
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 5: was all energy is classic. It's classic, and it's sparked.

974
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 5: I guess some of the younger guys do it in

975
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 5: some of the huddles today with the with they they

976
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 5: style a little dancing or whatever, but it was fun

977
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: doing that.

978
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: What is it like to be here back at this

979
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: time though? This is a special time in Detroit again.

980
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: They're back in the playoffs. But like you said, the

981
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: atmosphere is thicker than energy, is different during the playoff time.

982
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: What does it mean for you to be back here

983
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: now later although you're not playing, but it's still the

984
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: kind of the same spirit for the city of Detroit.

985
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 5: Well, I know for the for the players themselves, you know,

986
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 5: this is a new ground, which is good for them

987
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 5: in their careers. Like, hey, this is what it's like.

988
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 5: It's a different feeling, it's a different fever. But for

989
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 5: the fans, for the people, it's like, all right, shit,

990
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: all right, this is the start of it. You know

991
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 5: we're back now, you know we're on the way. We

992
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 5: got to build it up so it won't just happen overnight.

993
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 5: It got to be that, you know, had that team

994
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 5: that's built up, and the fans are the ones that

995
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 5: I think reminisced the most about them being back in

996
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 5: the playoffs right now.

997
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: That's what's up. Five straight conference finals appearance from two

998
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: thousand and four to two thousand and eight. Let's start

999
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: off talking about you guys beating the pit of the Pacers.

1000
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: In the two thousand and four Eastern Conference Finals. Tayshaun

1001
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: blocks Reggie shot. We just have Reggie on the show,

1002
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: and he said that shit still handsome. He said he

1003
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: would trade his push off on Jordan to hit the

1004
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: jumper to be able to take this layup back and

1005
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: be able to make it. What was going through your

1006
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: guys mind, obviously that that could have stealed it right there.

1007
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: Look at the score, by the way, look at the score.

1008
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: This is the first half score in today's NBA. This

1009
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: is the fourth quarter with fifteen seconds ago, and Tayshan

1010
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 2: had this incredible block.

1011
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 5: Talk us through this. I got I got that picture.

1012
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 5: You see that angle they just showed from up top.

1013
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 5: I got that picture in the vault, and I swear

1014
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 5: to goodness, y'all, that ball is like a fraction of

1015
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 5: an inch away from the backboard.

1016
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: About as close as I was hitting Kobe with the ball, Yes, close,

1017
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 2: clock right, the.

1018
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 5: Fracture right there, and I was like, oh my gosh,

1019
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 5: I was like that. At the time. I was like,

1020
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 5: all right, good block or whatever. You know, we got it,

1021
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 5: but reminiscing about it, you know, maybe a year or

1022
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 5: two after that was like, damn, that was a that

1023
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 5: was a great playoff moment, like we all we all

1024
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 5: know playoff moment, Jordan scoring sixty three in Boston play

1025
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 5: a great play off moment. You know, Reggie hitting what

1026
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 5: was it the scoring nine points or eight points in

1027
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 5: like three seconds or some shit like that in New York, you.

1028
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: Know, great play.

1029
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 5: That was a great playoff moment because again, as Reggie said,

1030
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 5: if he would have went up there to dunk it.

1031
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 6: That would have been gained and that could have changed

1032
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 6: the series.

1033
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 5: But Tayshawn gave that extra effort and man, just to

1034
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 5: watch that he ran down from from damn near at

1035
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 5: the corner, It's like, no, you're not getting this. Reggie

1036
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 5: got I think that that sparked and saved it.

1037
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: Reggie gotta dunk that. Yeah, Reggie had to dunk that.

1038
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 5: You know, Red thought like, look, he gave that one

1039
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 5: look back like there's nobody here. I guess he didn't

1040
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 5: see Tayshawn come out of nowhere.

1041
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: Hey, Sean was kind of transparent. He's the same color

1042
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: as the court, so he might have.

1043
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 5: Said that, yeah he got he got that.

1044
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: Two thousand and four heavy underdog versus the Lakers an incredible.

1045
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean, no one counted, No one gave you guys

1046
00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: a chance.

1047
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: But this city and that team, what did it mean

1048
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 2: to first and foremost beat the Lakers? But how did

1049
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: y'all slow shack doown?

1050
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 5: No, we didn't slow shackdown, like like Ben and I

1051
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 5: and Elden Campbell and Corlis and Mimi Ocres. We played

1052
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 5: them to our best. We just made it hard for him.

1053
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 5: You know, big fellas was still big fella. I'm saying

1054
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 5: he was still the most dominant athlete at that time.

1055
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 5: But no, we just had to slow him down. And

1056
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 5: it's like, look, we got more fouls, we got the

1057
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 5: energy of more files, Like we just gonna have to

1058
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 5: fuck him up, you know, not necessarily deliberately, like intentionally,

1059
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 5: but look, we can't make it easy for him. And

1060
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 5: that's what it was. You know Ben's strong ass, y'all

1061
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 5: stay home. I was like, damn, because I remember Shack

1062
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 5: beating my ass, beating our Vita Saboni's ass, beating Jermaine

1063
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 5: O'Neill ass, and you know when we was all in Portland.

1064
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 5: But when I came here and we played them in

1065
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 5: the chick He's like, no, I got him. I said,

1066
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 5: oh shit, like all right, all right, cool, Now I

1067
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 5: can stay home and do what I need to do

1068
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 5: and help everybody else out. And man, it was just

1069
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 5: that chemistry, dog, you know, it was. It was crazy.

1070
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 5: It was that good chemistry. Everything fell in line.

1071
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: What did it mean your first ring into this city?

1072
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 5: Man, for me, it means a lot. For me, it

1073
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 5: means a lot. I went three times, but it was

1074
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 5: only successful once. But man, well let me tell you, like,

1075
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 5: I remember that to this day, and it's it's nostalgic,

1076
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 5: and you get the crocodile tears and everything each year

1077
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 5: because you know, you're watching it when the NBA Finals

1078
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 5: come up, and the first thing you're doing is looking.

1079
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: Up like, damn, we got one.

1080
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 5: I remember when we did this, you know exactly, and

1081
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 5: it was it was awesome.

1082
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: Man.

1083
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 5: I loved it.

1084
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: I loved it.

1085
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 5: And to this day, you know, to come back here

1086
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 5: to the city is like, oh shit.

1087
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: You know, you get love from everybody everywhere, you know, from.

1088
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 5: From the people on the street and the restaurants to

1089
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 5: everybody in the strip clubs and.

1090
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: All the juke joints, everybody between.

1091
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 5: Well everybody in between. But it's love and that's and

1092
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 5: that's what I like. I'm I'm glad that the city

1093
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 5: embraced me because I embraced them, and man, it was

1094
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: it was a match made in heaven.

1095
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: You were a witness to Lebron james Is coming out

1096
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: party in the two thousand and seven Eastern Conference Finals

1097
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 2: where he scored twenty five straight points and we're able

1098
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: to knock you guys off. What was it like being

1099
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: in that moment? Obviously you're a vet. You see this

1100
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 2: young boy coming through and he's just on one.

1101
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 5: We was like, man, get the fuck out of here

1102
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 5: with a lot of the shots he was making. But no,

1103
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 5: that's twenty five straight Great talent, great, great fucking talent.

1104
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 5: At that time, you know, we didn't know he was

1105
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 5: going to be the player that he is today.

1106
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 4: All right, So I'll nobody't to say switch after five

1107
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: or six, But I wait till you got the twenty five.

1108
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: Hey.

1109
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 5: Hey, we tried to get schemes and scam saying all

1110
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 5: that shit didn't work, men, fuck Like you know, young

1111
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 5: young fellas set that mark right there, and it was great. Uh,

1112
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 5: you know, as I said, we didn't know that he

1113
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 5: was going to become the player he is today. So

1114
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 5: you know that also made it, as you just said, Jack,

1115
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 5: like no, we're not going to switch it all like that.

1116
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 5: You know, like Tayshawn got on Tyshawn was a remarkable

1117
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 5: defender ship. You know, he did a great job on

1118
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 5: Kobe in the finals, you know, the year or two before.

1119
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 5: So we was like, all right, like tay got him,

1120
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 5: and we stayed home doing this, doing that, and then

1121
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 5: you know, we just tried different schemes when that wasn't

1122
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 5: working and just to help him out. But yeah, hey,

1123
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 5: that was the hell of a runoff. You know, I

1124
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 5: gotta gotta tip your hat to that ship. You know,

1125
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 5: it is what it is. Let's talk, kicks. I was

1126
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 5: harassing you earlier about the shoes he was on. Y'all

1127
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 5: didn't even see. He got hisself of his shoes right here.

1128
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 5: He got some sweat his shoe.

1129
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 4: These are some rare Rashid Wallace's and he got his

1130
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 4: whole picture on the side of him and they swayed

1131
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 4: fire fire and he had something on yesterday too.

1132
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: But you don't even care about that type ship. That's

1133
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: what makes it so dope, you got yourself on the

1134
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: side the shoe. You don't even give a fuck, so wrong.

1135
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 3: Made what made you stay loyal to the forces?

1136
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 5: The nickes n times, Well, I played in them because

1137
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 5: it's the only shoe that protect my ankle. As y'all

1138
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 5: can see, it's already high, so it covers your whole ankle,

1139
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 5: unlike you know most of the times where cassaday they

1140
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 5: wear low times you got some guys to wear three quarters,

1141
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 5: but no, you got to protect your money makers. And

1142
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 5: at the time, air Force one was the most fashionable

1143
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 5: but yet highest high top shoe that protected my ankle

1144
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 5: and along with tables.

1145
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: So you played high and had to wear high shoes always.

1146
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: I feel you'll as you know.

1147
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 5: But here's the thing, though, y'all, here's the thing, so

1148
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 5: y'all won't think that, you know, you could just go

1149
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 5: ahead to the foot locker or whatever and buy them

1150
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 5: out the box and go get to the court.

1151
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: Don't do it.

1152
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 5: I had orthotics, all right, so I had I had

1153
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 5: little insert real shoes right, yeah, man, the insoles in

1154
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 5: these joints the box, Oh my god, it's like converses.

1155
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 4: With all the new technology coming out and you being

1156
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: who you are, especially while you were playing, Nike didn't

1157
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 4: hit you up like she. Man, we could put the

1158
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 4: same logo on some of these new fresh Nikes. Man,

1159
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 4: you sure you don't want to switch up? You was like,

1160
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 4: I'm staying loyal. I ain't want it.

1161
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 5: They tried to when at the time they tried it,

1162
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 5: but no, I didn't want it. I already set the mark. Now,

1163
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 5: you know, I was already known for wearing airs then,

1164
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 5: so as as some people call them airs, some people

1165
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 5: call them uptowns, you know this and that.

1166
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: But I was already But you ship didn't even look

1167
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: like it was laced up tight. I know, the big

1168
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: strap never was strapped like.

1169
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: They convinced you to do the strap eventually.

1170
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, strap on the bag thing. Strap was a Philly thing,

1171
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 5: Like Philly when we wear hot top air Force ones,

1172
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 5: just keep it at the back, on the back. So

1173
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 5: that was the Philly thing we did. So you know,

1174
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 5: that's what they did on the playground. That's what I

1175
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 5: grew up with. And hey, take that ship.

1176
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: To the league.

1177
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 4: They ain't never tried to give you to somebody like

1178
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 4: come on, she want you wet these bronze One time.

1179
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: Once I got established.

1180
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 5: No, but early on I didn't have my shoe at first,

1181
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 5: Like when I was playing in Washington, I ain't had

1182
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 5: my own shoe. I was playing in sea webs and

1183
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 5: real talk, Bimbo Coles, tools, No, some some air mats,

1184
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 5: Cross Trainer, Ken Griffy.

1185
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: Oh that was just fire. Did you just strap them neither?

1186
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: Huh No, No, they ain't had no air bubbles everywhere around.

1187
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 5: I had to get a heavy ankle tape because they

1188
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 5: have no support at all.

1189
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 6: But they was fashionable. I was like, oh, these joints

1190
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 6: is fire.

1191
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 5: Oh definitely, wearing ankle braces, taping your ankle all that

1192
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 5: ship with them.

1193
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: But they look good though you out there with third

1194
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: basement shoes on.

1195
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 5: Man, No bullshit, no bullshit.

1196
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: Then I feel somewhere.

1197
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 6: And then but when once I got to Portland, you know,

1198
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 6: of course home and night. Then our guy, my guy.

1199
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 6: I know a lot of people mad at him right now.

1200
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: But.

1201
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: Nicoo man, that's our brother.

1202
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 4: Man.

1203
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: They talking about.

1204
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: Taking some ship right now. Though it's all right.

1205
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm with him.

1206
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 5: He you know, approached me and ended up you know,

1207
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 5: getting a Nike contract with them. He was my rep.

1208
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 5: And the rest is history.

1209
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: Just you guys that know Nico's the guy that traded Luca,

1210
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: so he now he's a GM, but before he was

1211
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: the Western Region Nike rep that took care of Kobe everybody.

1212
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: Nico has always been to homie.

1213
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: He's done some heat right now, but he used to

1214
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: be he me.

1215
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, if you the man sit next

1216
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 4: to the man in this building, don't you laugh because

1217
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 4: one day you might be asked to do something you

1218
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: don't want to do. Yes, sir, exactly what happened in

1219
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 4: that situation. Any players today that have the high top

1220
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 4: air force one with she Wallas type of game that

1221
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 4: you would allow to wear your shoes, that you would

1222
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 4: want to wear your shoes?

1223
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, that's that's a good question.

1224
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

1225
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 4: I mean, well, smoking the doesn't have to be a

1226
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 4: thing because we just league in the league now so

1227
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 4: you can pick anybody.

1228
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 3: You have a lot of guys to pick from them.

1229
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: What kind of chances did we take for these dudes

1230
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: that have just chances?

1231
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 5: Hey, look listen here, remember them the days putting that

1232
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 5: Tiel up under the door, were thinking that ship man,

1233
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 5: that shit ain't worked.

1234
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: For the whole hallways smoked out.

1235
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 5: Let's open this and get the vacuum to go this.

1236
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: Man and put and put a shower cap on the

1237
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 2: on the smoke.

1238
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 5: None of that ship, Oh yeah, put put the wash

1239
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 5: cloth on the sector. And then you see when you

1240
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 5: get your check and ship you seeing that the fine

1241
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 5: three three fifty for smoking in room. Damn, y'all don't

1242
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 5: really know like that.

1243
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: Fuck it.

1244
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: We used to take real chance of smoking because you called.

1245
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: So when you guys first in league, it was the

1246
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: one preseason test and you were good. Yes, All of

1247
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 2: a sudden mid two thousand they started the four random tests,

1248
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: which was bullshit, but we were still smoking. So that

1249
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: means any given day you could have a p test.

1250
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: So I know, I used to pay my trainer to

1251
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: get me a heads up, like, yo, bro, let me

1252
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: know what's on the list. At first, the league would

1253
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: give you names, but then they found out we was

1254
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: too smart, so they would just say, hey, heads up,

1255
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: we're testing your team today.

1256
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: So they would test four or five guys. So every single.

1257
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: Time I know I got a call, I had to

1258
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: prepare as if I was getting tested. We have to

1259
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: take them nasty ass drinks and drink all that water

1260
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: and you know we are.

1261
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 4: It was horrible, terribly. You couldn't getting no routine. When

1262
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 4: I came to the league, it was easy to get

1263
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: a routine. When they threw them random drug tests, they

1264
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 4: threw you all off.

1265
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 5: But you know what, I won't say the whole thing,

1266
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 5: but I think they randomed the randoms. And here's why

1267
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 5: I say random because one day, you know, he came,

1268
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 5: They came and tested a couple of guys on the team.

1269
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh, my name wasn't called. I'm like,

1270
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 5: all right, bet he not coming back for another three

1271
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 5: months next least, right, So I'm like that.

1272
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 6: So you know, one home you know, had a little bowl.

1273
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 5: Hoked up. He did the next.

1274
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: Day he came back back to back days.

1275
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 6: Whose name is on the list today?

1276
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 5: Just yours cheat and a couple of other players. I'm like,

1277
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 5: oh fuck. I'm like, fuck it, I'm caught. I'm like,

1278
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 5: it's nothing I could do about it. Like, ain't no

1279
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 5: drinks or none of that ship you didn't call clipping

1280
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 5: dirt man that ship. No, I wasn't tripping. I won't tripped.

1281
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, because it's the first time of fence, you know,

1282
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 5: That's what I'm thinking right. I never got called. They

1283
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 5: never was like, oh, you came up dirty and this

1284
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 5: and that.

1285
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: They didn't care.

1286
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 6: It was either that or I was like, damn, they

1287
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 6: random the randoms.

1288
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: Where you diluted to diluted, you drink too much water,

1289
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: so heat all kinds.

1290
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 5: Of that motherfucker was hot. Hey, that pistol is hot.

1291
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this.

1292
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 5: You could have put that money in any type of

1293
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 5: other drug scenario, bitch, when it came up motherfucking positive

1294
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 5: from marijuana.

1295
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Man.

1296
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 5: I'm glad, you know. I'm glad for the guys on

1297
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 5: the team right now. The city is doing well with it,

1298
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 5: and man, I just wish them, wish them well. You

1299
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 5: know they got they gotta do it, do as good

1300
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 5: as they can. They they did what they could the

1301
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 5: other night, tied it up, brought it home one one.

1302
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 5: They did their job. It's always the jobs, as y'all know.

1303
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 5: We vets. Hey, all I need is one. We just

1304
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 5: gotta get one on the road and take care of home.

1305
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't wear it.

1306
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: You got a jersey in there too.

1307
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 5: Yeah I got a nice cage jersey. Yeah, okay, but no, definitely,

1308
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 5: thank you. Stock as for that though, Man.

1309
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: The art of the turnaround jumper?

1310
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 2: You being damn near seventy one and you shot the

1311
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: ball two feet above your head. Where did the art

1312
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: of the turnaround jumper? Because I actually saw you at

1313
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: a high school camp and it's been circling around. I

1314
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: G you're not on ig that much. But there was

1315
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: just a clip the other day about you hit a

1316
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: turnaround jumper off the glass in high school. I'm like, damn,

1317
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: that's the same shot you killed in the league with.

1318
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: So what did that? What did that shot?

1319
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: Probably? One on one? I locked that ship up. He

1320
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: could not get that shit.

1321
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 4: He tried some new he got some move man where

1322
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: he backed you down and he tried to wrap his

1323
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 4: leg all the way around you when I'm going no,

1324
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 4: he got the new move work, but he tried to

1325
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 4: I was on that again.

1326
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 5: No. Actually, truth be told, it came from high school.

1327
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 5: So playing ball or the first couple of scrimmages, you know,

1328
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 5: it was a normal thing to hist the rebound and

1329
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 5: bring the ball down and who's taking it a little guards.

1330
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 5: So for a whole season my freshman year, my high

1331
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 5: school coach, every time we had to like run laps

1332
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 5: or anything, like outside of a sixteen yo. I had

1333
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 5: to run with the ball like this, and it became

1334
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 5: muscle the same way y'all would see a football player,

1335
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 5: if you know, for guys who went high school in college,

1336
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 5: you would see the football guys just walking around with

1337
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 5: the football. They going to science class and you're like,

1338
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 5: what the fun and coach like, yeah, coach it, I

1339
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 5: can't fumble it no more. So it was the same

1340
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 5: way I had to had to hold a ball above

1341
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 5: my head and doing laps, you know, every running drill.

1342
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 5: I'm like fuck. And it became a natural reflex. So

1343
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 5: now every time I grab the rebound, it was automatically

1344
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 5: up our outlast four core outlets, half core outlets, and

1345
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 5: it was just a natural reflex. And I didn't want

1346
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 5: to come out the game because he said, every time

1347
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 5: I bring the ball down, you coming out.

1348
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: I ain't coming out to day.

1349
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: And natural reflex, you know, That's what they tell all

1350
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 4: big men now, especially when they get rebounds, keep doing

1351
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: bring the ball down, keep the ball.

1352
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

1353
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: Do you still teach that when when you coach a

1354
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: big man.

1355
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 5: Got to go what I got quite a few drills

1356
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 5: actually for them to keep that ball above their heads.

1357
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 5: You know, just automatically you catch that rebound, you're right

1358
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 5: there offensive rebound. Instead of bringing it down to go

1359
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 5: back up, you're already there. Ship six eleven seven feet

1360
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 5: seven to one. Go ahead and drop that bitch in there.

1361
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: Last time he was on the show, you talked about

1362
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: how Joe Klein punked you.

1363
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 3: With a viral clip.

1364
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 4: Anybody else besides Joe Klein punk you way he was

1365
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 4: playing the league?

1366
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 5: No, because now that I can remember that that punked

1367
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 5: me like he did.

1368
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 4: Dog on everything story, some people that might not have

1369
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 4: heard it, all right, all right, So.

1370
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 5: So here I am. I'm I'm a rookie, and Joe

1371
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 5: Klein went to the University of Arkansas. That's my guy.

1372
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 5: Ended up being my teammate later on in my career.

1373
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 5: But so here it is, I'm a rookie. He's playing

1374
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 5: for a Phoenix. So we're out in Phoenix and I'm like,

1375
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 5: all right, bet playing them. And it's a certain play

1376
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 5: that Jimmy Lineam ran where the big man gets the

1377
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 5: lib for the dunk. So the first time I went up,

1378
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 5: you know, boom, I caught it. I dunked it, and

1379
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 5: y'all what y'all don't want it tonight. So Joe Klein

1380
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 5: looked at me. He said, hey, you do that ship again.

1381
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna fuck you up, man, whatever, old ass dude,

1382
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 5: we ain't get out of here with that ship whatever.

1383
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 5: You ain't ready for this, so boom. Like two plays

1384
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 5: days later, Yo so os, which stands for the same

1385
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 5: old ship. He's like s O S S O S.

1386
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 5: I'm like, bet hey, right, I take off. It was

1387
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 5: like air missile defense. The next thing I know, I'm

1388
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 5: like this. I'm like damn, and he's standing over me

1389
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 5: like this. I told you I was gonna knock your

1390
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 5: ass out better. Don't try that shiit no more.

1391
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Oh bro.

1392
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 5: I was like, I had a whole different respect for

1393
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 5: veterans in the league. Then with him and Terry Cummings.

1394
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: Terry strong as a motherfucker. Terry comes with strong as

1395
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: fuck bro again.

1396
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, y'all, I don't mean to go back down

1397
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 5: way for our memory lane, but it's funny as fuck

1398
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 5: so here. I am freshman, I mean not freshman rookie.

1399
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 5: Excuse me. Terry Cummings is on his way out, but

1400
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 5: he's at the time, he's playing with Milwaukee, right so like,

1401
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 5: all right, you go and Terry Cummings and night, I'm like,

1402
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 5: all right, cool, I know who he is. I saw

1403
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 5: him play on TV with Sydney Mindcreef and all that.

1404
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, cause they was big rivals with

1405
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 5: the Sixers, doctor j Andrew Tony, all of that, right,

1406
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, bet. That's when I knew the

1407
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 5: difference between weight room strength and grown man with kids strength. Okay,

1408
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 5: let me tell y'all it's a big difference. Don't let

1409
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 5: that weight room strength pump y'all up to think. Y'all

1410
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 5: caught dieseling this and that, y'all deal with an old

1411
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 5: man who'd been through some shit, who got like four

1412
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 5: kids and about eight grandkids to rustic ass hands. Hey,

1413
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 5: let me tell you, I'm trying to back this man down.

1414
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 5: First of all, he gets the ball in the post,

1415
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 5: hot knife going through butter laying me up left and right. Damn,

1416
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 5: I get.

1417
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: The ball in the post. It's like this the same way.

1418
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 5: This couch ain't going nowhere. This is me trying to

1419
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 5: dance and the man I passed the ball out. I'm frustrated.

1420
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 6: Repost what repost man?

1421
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: You crazy?

1422
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 5: I'm reposted I'm posting out there at the three point line,

1423
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 5: Terry Cummins was strong and ship and that's when I

1424
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 5: knew the difference between grown man's strength and weight room strength.

1425
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 5: Strong dude, man, I'm telling them NBA veterans man for real.

1426
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 4: Shout out to Regard miller Man. He's the reason why

1427
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 4: we have this new segment called factor fiction. I think

1428
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 4: he started it because his sister came on the show

1429
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 4: and he had a lot to say that was fact

1430
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 4: to fiction. We're gonna start with you. You was eject

1431
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 4: fact to fiction. You was ejected from the McDonald's fact How.

1432
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: How the fuck you get kicked out of an All

1433
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: Star game?

1434
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: The McDonald's how you please? I didn't even do that

1435
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 3: fact fact fact?

1436
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: How did that happen?

1437
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 2: Bro?

1438
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 5: Like no socause man like? I could deal with playing hard?

1439
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: I could.

1440
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 5: If you busting my ass, I could deal with that.

1441
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Yo, don't come at me

1442
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 5: with all the elbows and dirty ship though you ain't

1443
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,959
Speaker 5: got to do that. If I'm busting your ass, don't

1444
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 5: come at me with that bullshit. Dog make you with it.

1445
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 5: The big Boy, Darnelle Robinson, the Big Fellow from Chicago.

1446
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 5: You know, we ended up being friends in the long run,

1447
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 5: but it was like, yeah, you know, he shot the elbow.

1448
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 5: I ain't appreciate that ship man, so you know I

1449
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 5: gave him that elbow back. And yeah, they gave me

1450
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 5: the tech man and kicked me out of that much

1451
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 5: one or two. I didn't care. I didn't want to

1452
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 5: be there. I didn't want to be there. No, no,

1453
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 5: to be honest, I didn't want to be there. Like

1454
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 5: I'm y'all already know I'm not an All Star Game

1455
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 5: type of I don't give a fuck about the All

1456
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 5: Star Game. And McDonald's is snatch. So they're like, oh, yeah,

1457
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 5: he top player in the country, you gotta be there.

1458
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, so I was half hearted with all

1459
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 5: the ship there. The other records you probably have, the

1460
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 5: probably won't be broken. The only person could kicked out

1461
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 5: McDonald's All American game fact with.

1462
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 1: Ronald McDonald was there too.

1463
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just had came from the children's hospital

1464
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 3: the day before.

1465
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: No bullshit.

1466
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: You know, I know I was there too.

1467
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: Yes, one of your first scrimmage games in the us

1468
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: U n C, you dunked on senior big man Eric

1469
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: Montross and said, your job is mine factor fiction.

1470
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 5: Those words. No, it wasn't those exact words. We hear

1471
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 5: the words, but it was something like that. It probably

1472
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 5: was something like this my ship now or you know,

1473
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 5: something like that.

1474
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: Let him know you was here. How'd that go?

1475
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 5: My presence is felt, my presidence. But him and Coach

1476
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 5: Smith taught me a lesson. So playing against Eric Montrose,

1477
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 5: that's my guy. Rest in peace. So I'm like, all right,

1478
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 5: in practice for the first you know, month or so,

1479
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 5: he's busting my ass. You know, I'm like shit because

1480
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 5: I'm still struck, like, oh ship he was. I just

1481
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 5: watched him a couple of months ago winning championships. So

1482
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 5: here I I'm practicing and playing against this dude. So

1483
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, bet so first month he busted

1484
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,439
Speaker 5: my ass and I'm like, man, bet I got his game.

1485
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 5: Here I am. We in practice. He goes for his

1486
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 5: jump hook. So with his jump pook, he always liked

1487
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 5: to just put the elbow out first and then go

1488
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 5: up with the right hand hook. I got you, I

1489
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 5: got it, I got it. Take the elbow. I stepped

1490
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 5: back and I'm jumping straight up. Block that shit. Right boom,

1491
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 5: we start to break block that shit to stack stack we.

1492
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 6: Out, let's go, we out, Boom, they come back down.

1493
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 5: Next time he clears me the fuck out smacks me

1494
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 5: all in my face. I'm talking about hearing me like this,

1495
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 5: Jon Pull. I'm like, oh, so, I'm like, okay, it's

1496
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 5: an accident. You could take that, you know, the first time,

1497
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 5: it's an accident. But when he came back down and

1498
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 5: did it again, same thing. Oh no, dog, we got

1499
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 5: to fight right there. I'm like, man, the fuck out

1500
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 5: of here. They're like, oh, you're gonna cut that shit out, coach.

1501
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 6: Oh no, we don't do that.

1502
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 5: We don't say that here.

1503
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 6: Oh give him a vest.

1504
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 5: So anytime you had to, you know, you you were

1505
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 5: getting disciplined by any of the coaches, you had to

1506
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 5: wear a weighted vest. Yo, run them laps.

1507
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: That's it.

1508
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 5: I had to run till Coach Smith told me to stop.

1509
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 5: So I ran for about maybe like ten minutes. But

1510
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 5: it was a learning lesson, you know, like, shit, I

1511
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 5: can't fuck I can't fuck with the All American Senior.

1512
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 2: Facts back to fiction. You actually like NBA Rep. Joy Crawford.

1513
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: That's my guy with him, that's my guy. It's from

1514
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: that Philadelphia area.

1515
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1516
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had our differences back in the day. But hey,

1517
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 5: like everything else, you know, we all got it something.

1518
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 5: I guarantee you if I ask y'all. Right now, how

1519
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 5: many in here don't like y'all coworkers?

1520
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: They don't want to raise their hand, they don't want

1521
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 2: to here.

1522
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, but hey, it was it was we was at work,

1523
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 5: but off of the cord. No, Joey a good dude,

1524
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 5: Philadelphia area dude. You know it does a lot of

1525
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 5: good charity work. So no, I Fox with Joey Crawford

1526
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 5: Quick hitters.

1527
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind.

1528
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: Let us know, first team all dark alley U plus

1529
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 2: four going down a dark alley?

1530
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: Who you taking?

1531
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 5: Taking myself? I'm taking Ben Wallace, I'm taking uh Darvin

1532
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 5: ham Strong, I'm taking Isaiah j R. Rider Easy right rider.

1533
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 5: And at my point, like a dark alley situation, I'm

1534
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 5: gonna have to go with strict dying.

1535
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 6: Roger, strictly strictly dying.

1536
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 1: I ain't at that.

1537
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 5: Aggressive big point guard.

1538
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: Favorite spots to eat at during your time here in Detroit?

1539
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 5: Oh wow, we were up there in that whole little

1540
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 5: Birmingham area then, So it was a couple steak joints. Uh,

1541
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 5: it was shipped at what's that hotel up there where

1542
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 5: y'all used to stay at?

1543
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: What was that?

1544
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: I was just asking you that night, what was that

1545
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 2: ship called the.

1546
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: Middle?

1547
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't get burgers though, but.

1548
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 5: No, that you know, sitting up there the towns and

1549
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 5: then I would come down here I think at the time. Uh,

1550
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 5: Derek Coleman had a restaurant, Sweet Georgia Brown's that was

1551
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 5: open downtown Detroit. One more.

1552
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: That was one more.

1553
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 5: See, that's why I don't hang out with certain friends

1554
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 5: right there, because I heard what he said over there. No,

1555
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 5: that was not my favorite restaurant, the Strip Club Wings, No,

1556
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 5: that's not It was Jack's. I can't eat in that atmosphere.

1557
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, six pieces of magic City right now?

1558
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 5: Right now, Oh, ship security, get this guy out of here.

1559
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: Your favorite Detroit memory as a Piston.

1560
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 6: Wows so many on off the court.

1561
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: Tell us one of each.

1562
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 5: On the court or dealing with basketball, I would say

1563
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 5: the parade that was cracking. It was over two million

1564
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 5: people that showed us.

1565
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: Well, really, that's dope.

1566
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 5: It was people hanging out of office buildings, hanging off.

1567
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: Of parking came downtown for that.

1568
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were Jefferson Avenue came down there, and man,

1569
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 5: that was.

1570
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: That.

1571
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 5: That's that's what you wish for. That's that's nostalgic. That's

1572
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 5: what you wish for. You know when when weird little

1573
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 5: kids and you on a court and you know, you're like, oh,

1574
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 5: three two and this is for the championship, and they

1575
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 5: passed the ball and so and so and with you talking,

1576
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 5: that's about five seconds right there. And then you like

1577
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 5: one and you put the shot up and if you

1578
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 5: miss it, oh.

1579
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 1: He gets found.

1580
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 5: They gotta do it again. But if you hit it,

1581
01:12:59,080 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 5: you like they wouldn't you.

1582
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 2: That's what that felt like.

1583
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 5: I thought. I thought it was a great feeling when

1584
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,799
Speaker 5: when in three City Titles when I was in high school,

1585
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 5: that parade.

1586
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: Nothing like it.

1587
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 5: To see them out there hanging out there showing us love,

1588
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 5: giving us love. Oh my gosh, bro, I'm telling you

1589
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 5: that was. That was it, you know, And you know

1590
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 5: they had us in some fly ass whips because it

1591
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 5: is the city of Detroit, so it's like, you know,

1592
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 5: they had us in the courfets and all that ship.

1593
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 5: So you know, we just waving real residential type, you know.

1594
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 5: But but it was it was lovely man, you know

1595
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 5: I got that. I got that film somewhere on an

1596
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 5: old school you'll remember the old school VHA quarters. Yeah,

1597
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 5: I got that somewhere. But man, it's wow. It was exhilarating.

1598
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 5: It was exhilarating. I can't lie, you know. And then

1599
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 5: going up there on the stage and then just seeing

1600
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 5: that massive crowd. You knows we love y'all. It's like

1601
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 5: it brings you to tears.

1602
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: Bro, I love it.

1603
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 4: With the Pistons in the playoffs right now and everything

1604
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 4: they got going on, what message would you send to

1605
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 4: the Pistons and the Pistons stands right now.

1606
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 5: Stay with him. Stay with him, y'all been with him

1607
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 5: for this long. Stay with him. The young fellas they

1608
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 5: you know, they getting it together. They back in it

1609
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 5: in the fight. Stay with him. Believe in them once

1610
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 5: they believe in themselves to be able to like, look,

1611
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 5: this one threshold that we face this year, win or lose.

1612
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 5: Our goal is to get to that next threshold. So now, okay,

1613
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 5: playoffs is nothing.

1614
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1615
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 5: We made the playoffs last year, last couple of years.

1616
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 5: So now we gotta get out this first round. That's

1617
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 5: our goal. Get out of first round. So guys just

1618
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 5: got to keep fighting. It's gonna be a bitch. It's

1619
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:54,799
Speaker 5: going to scrap.

1620
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

1621
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 5: You know you're gonna feel like the rest is against

1622
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 5: you everything, but hey, you gotta go out there and

1623
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 5: do it no matter what. And you got the city

1624
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 5: behind you. Now. You know what I'm saying. It's been

1625
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 5: so long since since the fans felt this feeling like,

1626
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 5: oh you gotta you gotta eat that energy up. You

1627
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. When you in the building, I

1628
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 5: know it's gonna be crazy tomorrow. You know, y'all know

1629
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 5: Mason's gonna come with the whole Detroit basketball everything, the firewords, smoke,

1630
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 5: all that shit is yo. The atmosphere is going to

1631
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 5: be there. They just gotta thrive off of it.

1632
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 2: She Man, We want to thank you. I appreciate you, Bro,

1633
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: We love you. Thank you for what you've done to

1634
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: the game, for the city of Detroit and spending some

1635
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: time with us.

1636
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: Man.

1637
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 2: Give it up for Rashee Wallace.

1638
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 5: Man. Appreciate y'all, Love you all, man.

1639
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: I love you all again.

1640
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 2: Thank you the StockX for having us out. It's been

1641
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: a joy. We can't wait to come back. Thank you

1642
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: guys for coming out. We'll be around a little bit

1643
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: for a meet and greet and then we got to

1644
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: dip off and smoke a little bit. But man, enjoy yourself,

1645
01:15:54,400 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, and have a good one. Well that

1646
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: was the Chapelle ship, wasn't it.

1647
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 5: Yeahs a pleasure for me to have the Great Charlie

1648
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 5: Murphy rest in peace.

1649
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 3: Say come on, God, damn it.

1650
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: M hm m hm m hm hm