WEBVTT - #312 - Troy Ave

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Blue Black Cap podcast in here, Troy Ave

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<v Speaker 1>is in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh the hey that one God has gave paper shake.

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<v Speaker 2>New album is out, New album is out? Absolutely How

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<v Speaker 2>is everything?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? You are wrapped up in a lot of fucking

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of back and forth on the internet

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I just saw my Saundres drop the new

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<v Speaker 1>record today. Did you see that?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I don't. I don't. I don't entertain like Chash

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<v Speaker 2>you feel me, like when we don't stop to pick

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<v Speaker 2>the coins of the floor. It don't make no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, really, Chash, I've I'm I can honestly say

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go to the rest of my life without hearing

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<v Speaker 2>a song from a taxi Robert you feel me?

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<v Speaker 1>Put you put a record out about him though?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, He's no. I just talked about him being a

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<v Speaker 2>taxi robber when I make records these effects, I actually

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<v Speaker 2>robbed taxi drivers and he stole one hundred and three

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<v Speaker 2>thousand total, a walkie talkie and a go ring and

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<v Speaker 2>he just seven years in jail for that. So I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't listen to the music of somebody whose life is

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<v Speaker 2>worth fifteen dollars a year. It made no sense, and

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<v Speaker 2>I sugges you don't either, so you don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>w You just like consuming trash hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>So if somebody this is you, you're not even like

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<v Speaker 1>let me just take a listen, bro, I never.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what the fuck am I listened to it for?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't. I'm not like one of these.

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<v Speaker 2>When I tell you the type of music I listen to,

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<v Speaker 2>I listen to soul music. I listen to Tupac, I

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<v Speaker 2>listen to psy Like it's different. Shit. I don't just

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<v Speaker 2>be listening to rap, just listen to rap. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>give a fuck about that. I'd rather when I sit

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<v Speaker 2>in my pool in my house, I'm listening to fucking

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<v Speaker 2>You'll put eighties dance hits on like Scarf Fish doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just if someone, if someone put a whole song

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<v Speaker 1>together together by me, I'm at least listening to.

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<v Speaker 2>A can't listen to it because it's no there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>nigga do. I don't have no skeletons in my closet,

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<v Speaker 2>can't nobody pull nothing like I'm I'm super authentic. Not

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<v Speaker 2>to say that like self god whatever. I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Like authentic is the fact that I'll be living in

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<v Speaker 2>my truth. So something that somebody's gonna says nothing that

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<v Speaker 2>you could come out and say to discredit me. This

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<v Speaker 2>person did this to me before, Like how somebody could

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<v Speaker 2>say chain or got wedgied and cut by boxing bar

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<v Speaker 2>and old and now it's a big thing. Or my son,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a taxi robber. You try to get it straight

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<v Speaker 2>from the incident. Now you're activist. Know you're a taxi

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<v Speaker 2>robber and a hater. You know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 2>what are they gonna say about your as I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>successful businessman. I own Lamborghinis and other farms. I got

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen properties, like I own trucking companies. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a restaurant businesses, Like, what are you gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>about me? I don't have a whole baby. Mom's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the shit you're gonna put unless you're gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>up some shit like or having an opinion that most

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<v Speaker 2>people don't share. So if what the fuck am I?

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<v Speaker 2>There's never gonna be no shocking shit that they gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say about me that I don't know about myself, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not offensive. They're gonna try to make something up

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<v Speaker 2>and use it in an offensive way. I don't consume bullshit,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't eat junk.

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<v Speaker 1>For well, I think like a couple of things to

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<v Speaker 1>clear up, because I do think that now that obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the trial and you know everything is past, you could

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<v Speaker 1>you could speak the most part, for the most part.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to jail for no fucking I ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say for no reason. But how long you are we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be up to the judge. Maybe a year, maybe longer,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe less. Maybe the judge would be like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you ain't been in no trouble before this or after this,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know it was isolated incident, a jealous bottom feeder,

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<v Speaker 2>preddie kidd fell and mans nigga hater that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fucking gasoline on the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, I think because it kind of helped me

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<v Speaker 1>walk me through this because tax Stones lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Ratstone. We adjust people. Probably the guy's

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<v Speaker 2>in jail, fact you won, he's in jail. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Banger's dad Bringer, it ain't no you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's levels levels to winning and ship you feel sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I had lost custody in my kids. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>fight for that. I had to pay over two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand lawyer fees. Yes, all of this type of ship

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<v Speaker 2>that I had to go through my career was crippled,

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<v Speaker 2>like it ain't. You can't, you can't. I'm kicking the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking scumbag cocker roaches when they're down. You feel me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm step on them. It's gonna be guts on the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of my shoe. His name is Ratstone. He wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a letter to the judge and his whole defense was

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<v Speaker 2>that he didn't kill banger Troy Ab did it wrestle

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<v Speaker 2>for the gun and Troy Ab shot his friend. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's a fucking rat and he's a fucking cocker roach,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a bottom feeder. And we need to remove

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<v Speaker 2>haters from the fucking community. We need to remove them.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to be treated with the same this thing

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<v Speaker 2>as we do fucking snitches that do crowns with their

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<v Speaker 2>homies and turn around and flip on them, as we

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<v Speaker 2>do it, child molests, as we do with rapists, all

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<v Speaker 2>these type of people, because hate is a cancer, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just he was over to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what I was gonna say. So I've this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that the one thing about this

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman is he does have a lot of industry friends, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so me being somebody who was actually friends with Banga, right,

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of love for you. I never was

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<v Speaker 1>like free dude, fuck that, like, dude killed my boy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Like I personally like it

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. I'm not in the situation. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there, but like I think that the the I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that the reason why you're not necessarily going

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<v Speaker 1>through a lot of the backlash that like maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like six ' nine went through, is because the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>at least how it's been explained, is you just cleared

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<v Speaker 1>your name up after a lawyer essentially wrote a letter

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<v Speaker 1>pinning everything on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it wasn't so much lawyer, it was so much him.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do anything without your lawyer's approval. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to give your lawyer this information. His lawyers is not

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<v Speaker 2>coming up with alleged CRuMs that we was involved in.

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<v Speaker 2>That's him being a god that's in the know of

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<v Speaker 2>street things, you know what I'm saying, It's not his

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer's not coming up with this info. So they wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a letter to the judge. But even before that the

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<v Speaker 2>whole defense was that, you know I it was your

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<v Speaker 2>av They said they got your ab out there shooting

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<v Speaker 2>on camera. You know what I'm saying, Like just cony

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<v Speaker 2>shit that we're not going for. And as far as

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<v Speaker 2>like me and six nine is solely different because six

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<v Speaker 2>nine is or was an active gang member. When you

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<v Speaker 2>in gang shit, that shit is in the streets. You

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<v Speaker 2>keep that shit in the streets. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody rapes your mother, you go kill them or you

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<v Speaker 2>whatever happens to them. It don't be no police shit involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my street business I kept in the streets. I

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<v Speaker 2>got shot when I was fifteen. Never heard about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the streets. I barely don't even wrap about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got shot my head on Christmas Day. I was there,

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<v Speaker 2>the Pope detective was at my best side. I ain't

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<v Speaker 2>have nothing to say because we kept that in the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>This ship is the Internet. This ship is the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing that. This is like a stalker, somebody who would

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<v Speaker 2>tweet somebody seven hundred and eighty times over a five

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<v Speaker 2>year period. This is craziness. It's like the person who

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<v Speaker 2>killed John Lennon that the bitch who killed Selena even

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<v Speaker 2>though she wasn't a stalker, she was an assistant. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a totally different situation. You feel me just

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<v Speaker 2>started in the public, and you don't never allow nobody

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<v Speaker 2>to just say I'm gonna crash out, throw my life

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<v Speaker 2>away and I'm taking you down with me. Now, get

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck over me. You go off that bridge yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get off my body.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, right right. And I do think too, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you said letter aside that it was a

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<v Speaker 1>situation that was but I do think the letter kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like at least optically kind of like it's like, hey, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>just like go with what this letter says. You want

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<v Speaker 1>me to hold myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Down, you feel me? Yeah, you want to. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to play a fair You want to you want to

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<v Speaker 2>play a fair and decited that you know, I would

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<v Speaker 2>even let somebody determine the rules of engagement, the rules

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<v Speaker 2>of the game, you know what I'm saying. Which it happened,

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<v Speaker 2>but then it's like, wait, hold on this. We both

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<v Speaker 2>in the ring box and this person took the gloves off,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what I mean, they they spray some

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<v Speaker 2>shit in my eye. The fuck I'm supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to you because.

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<v Speaker 2>And the real ones is seeing that if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the public opinion, even with people like my son

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<v Speaker 2>and generally he's nuts, the taxi Robert, He'll put up

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<v Speaker 2>a post and people will be under his comments like

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<v Speaker 2>fuck you talking about you. I have a real nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>He bugging. He did what most rappers talk about doing.

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<v Speaker 2>You want him to take the murder of his friend.

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<v Speaker 2>You want him to take attempt to murder on somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that shot him, and he took the gun from like

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<v Speaker 2>people in the comments. Even when Chaino put up a

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<v Speaker 2>post like these guys got to make their comments limited.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say channel, we're talking about Mano.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Manos Chanel, you know exactly who is the one

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<v Speaker 2>I love?

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<v Speaker 1>I love Mano.

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<v Speaker 2>Man I was just in, Uh, Mano doesn't love you,

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<v Speaker 2>you love him? He doesn't love you. That's solid. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a good guy, man good. What is he done? Good?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean what he does about the hood? I can't

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<v Speaker 2>speak to you help anybody in his community with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you judge men, judging men's character by their actions.

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<v Speaker 1>But you may not have great records together.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys, you've done favors for him, and I've and

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<v Speaker 2>I've done records and I've carried he.

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<v Speaker 1>On your album too.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's on He wasn't in New York City album?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the record? You?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm thinking of project.

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<v Speaker 2>When I do albums, I'm meticulous with them. I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about the record. I think people people I admire on

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<v Speaker 2>New York City the album, not just whoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you never admired main or ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Because he's admired. I support it because he was

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<v Speaker 2>from from Brooklyn and he was coming up. I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>support I show love, you know what I'm saying. Always

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<v Speaker 2>I show love. That's how I'm gonna always show love.

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<v Speaker 2>So I brought his album when he came out. It

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<v Speaker 2>was trash, you know what I'm saying. Trash though, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's only one that I first album was great. It's

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<v Speaker 2>first time on the album. Here we're gonna go with

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<v Speaker 2>the cat first. The first album was great. His debut

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<v Speaker 2>album on a Lant it was crazy. The first album

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<v Speaker 2>is great. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Bet is it better than get a record on there

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<v Speaker 1>called Soldier?

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you it is not better than And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even gonna say classic like Outcast and Ship like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Since you saying the album album, no, I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the greatest albums okay on the walls,

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't got a bunch of albums.

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<v Speaker 1>Over here, not some here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's better than but but I'm not gonna I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's better by end. He could never do

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<v Speaker 2>nothing better than.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Menos first is better than that album from

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<v Speaker 1>nas his first album, because he's put out other albums

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<v Speaker 1>to empires.

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<v Speaker 2>Show what bro his first album was hard. We got

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<v Speaker 2>seriously looking to your we gotta look down slept on

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<v Speaker 2>you only person saying that that's not true. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you you and him's album is hard Bro. His first albums,

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<v Speaker 2>it's good. Take it told people getting the comings, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me. And especially from New York.

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<v Speaker 1>My Bandana Soldier. He has some ship on that first alum.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you call his album great, what would you

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<v Speaker 2>call New York City album? If you had to rate them.

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<v Speaker 1>From one, I think it's a better album mains if

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<v Speaker 1>you have I want to see you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of New York City. I think that's your

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<v Speaker 1>best album.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see that. I think, Yeah, you think

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<v Speaker 2>you hate one yet, then that's more of everything. But

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<v Speaker 2>what when you say great album? If on scale of

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what would be we want to ring? Get

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Died trying to be a ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely, a lot of things. I won't. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, like a nine point eight. I'm I'm okay,

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<v Speaker 2>get Richard I trying, And I got a personal thing

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<v Speaker 2>with like fifty, Get.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Die Trying as a ten. New York City album

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<v Speaker 1>for me is like a like a hard eight, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Maynos album is like a seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you shitting me? His first album is fire Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Pitchfork because Pitchfork actually work today. God,

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<v Speaker 2>they give people zeros.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bunch of fucking Williamsburg, fucking Wienis and type pants,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking greating albums.

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<v Speaker 2>You say it's a great album because it has right

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<v Speaker 2>out on that is it lyricism? It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a concept album Voice Records Records. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a good concept. It started off with him getting freed

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<v Speaker 1>from jail. I liked the album.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you want me to No, No, it's objective. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to know why your opinions like that because

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<v Speaker 2>I want it because people have opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I why are like first album?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I want like I No, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to know anymore. But I just I was saying,

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<v Speaker 2>like your opinion, like I think it was. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you why I love YG album, his first album, Classics.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say, it's about it. That's like a

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<v Speaker 2>nine point two when we say greats and classics. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>most people will tell you New York City album is

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<v Speaker 2>the classical? Made you what I deal? It is classical NEWPAP.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what most people will tell you. It was the classics. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>But I've never heard nobody say his it was a classic.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I didn't say I didn't take classic. I said

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<v Speaker 2>Though we what I mean great album? So we have

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<v Speaker 1>Or yeah, so it's mid, it's a great album.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if we got two levels above its mid, two

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the same Cuban link.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't claim that. He claimed the people claim that.

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<v Speaker 2>The people claim that. The people went in his comments

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<v Speaker 2>and said he had a chainity that he but fate.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, when you're pointing out just the like

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<v Speaker 1>Cuban link.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like, that's a little in the Cuban link.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were some of the things you pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>that were like, yo, look you still got the same

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<v Speaker 1>Cuban link.

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<v Speaker 2>I never say anything that's the people, but to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say to say, like one Cuban link and another Cuban

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<v Speaker 1>link are the same.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're not talking. He's talking about the Jesus peace

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<v Speaker 2>actually whatever he pulled out way in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>that minute running back.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's different from I saw a post of yours

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<v Speaker 1>where you were talking about look he's wearing that same

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<v Speaker 1>pain link without the peace.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never I've never said that that's a fact. I

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<v Speaker 2>know what I say. I've never said that. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>documentary short that shows everything. Who's putting it together?

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<v Speaker 1>These are you putting together?

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<v Speaker 2>These? Do the people?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>The people? I got the fact those show podcasts, even

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<v Speaker 2>the title I did with me as Batman. Everybody knows

0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Batman is Bruce Wayne. He has beautiful women, he lives

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.600
<v Speaker 2>luxurious houses, jobs, nice cars, and there's a bunch of

0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:31.440
<v Speaker 2>bottom feet of haters, the Penguin Bane Joker. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>all these people are. So let me ask you Destroit

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<v Speaker 2>because the people put that together. I said on the

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<v Speaker 2>fact of show, I feel like Batman fact those show

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<v Speaker 2>Real One viewers. I need y'all make me a cover

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<v Speaker 2>like that with all these haters, and he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you are at times participating in

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>unnecessary drama for someone as that's as rich as you

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.560
<v Speaker 1>are and for someone who's been through as much as

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<v Speaker 1>you've been through.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's all a part of perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, like, like you got some try to kill you

0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.640
<v Speaker 1>on Christmas. Obviously the shooting that happened that we all

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>know about. You know what I'm saying. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of like this the court case got wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up and you just kind of dive right into a

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of fucking drama, and I just feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna tell you that that's your perspective, not

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<v Speaker 2>really thoroughly knowing me before music the shit happened to

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.360
<v Speaker 2>me that you see, it's just highlighting now because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>entertainer and I got some fame in a little bit

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.719
<v Speaker 2>of celebrity, but I really come from the streets and

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.640
<v Speaker 2>trying to make it out of that. It was hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me to get to even this point of that

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<v Speaker 2>point of you knowing me. I've been through way worse

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.919
<v Speaker 2>shit before I got to that point of you knowing me.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that you see this in this highlighted, it

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<v Speaker 2>just it's blown up more. But I haven't been through

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<v Speaker 2>as far as what I was. Where I'm coming from,

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing pretty good. I'm not talking about financially. I'm

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 2>talking about as far as things with people. When you

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<v Speaker 2>one of those guys, as far as like I've always

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<v Speaker 2>been like a popular person, you know, I've always worked,

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 2>like from high school whatever. There's been people that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like me for certain reasons. When I got in the street,

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting more money than people. I'm driving next to cars.

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.959
<v Speaker 2>They ain't like me for certain reasons, and shit happens

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.120
<v Speaker 2>in there and you got to protect yourself. But at

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<v Speaker 2>this point saying that, do I think I'm getting in

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<v Speaker 2>unnecessary stuff? It's all a matter of perspective. It's like

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 2>it's there's fucking a full time champion like Klay Thompson

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 2>have to show his rings to somebody. Somebody say, Clay,

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 2>you're above that. Why are you doing that? It's sole

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 2>a matter of perspective. You feel what I'm saying, there's

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Kobe the Black Mamba have to go off and play

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Kyrie Irving for token shit like bro, I'm a chimp.

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't got to play you at this Olympic shit.

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Because it's all a matter of perspective, right, I don't.

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:50.679
<v Speaker 2>I think that with me, I would be too, I

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<v Speaker 2>would be above. And I've never have started any issues

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<v Speaker 2>with people, but sometimes when people come to me, and again,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want you or any viewers to only look

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<v Speaker 2>at or lock into the issues that I do take

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 2>on because mad issues come across my desk and I

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 2>fucking ignore them. So if I ignore twenty issues or

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 2>people taking shots at me and this songs and trying

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.439
<v Speaker 2>to destroy my character, if I ignore that and I

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 2>choose to you know what, fuck these twenty people, their

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 2>roach guts on the bottom of my shoe. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>deal with these other four or five people. And I

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 2>think that's my that's my prerogative to do that. You

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.479
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, It's like a fuck it, and

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll maybe I'll deal with those other people later, maybe

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I won't. But perspective is saying, if you have a perspective,

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.640
<v Speaker 2>it all about where you're from your experiences with life

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 2>and whatever. For sure, jay Z was top of the top.

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 2>He didn't have to go at us. He was already

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of him. He didn't have to do many things

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 2>that he done. He didn't have to do that. Jay

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 2>Z was ahead of us. I'm from New York. I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed he got to the point and he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm a really step on his neck. This when

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Nas started putting out weak music, you know what I mean,

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 2>no disrespecting knowledge, but it wasn't like and then he

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 2>came back with that still madic shit, like fuck you

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>talking about this is me?

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<v Speaker 1>So my thing is is like you talked about like

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<v Speaker 1>the new album and how it's like one of your

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<v Speaker 1>best bodies of work. You think it's your best body

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<v Speaker 1>of work.

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 2>It is my best body of work because I've been

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<v Speaker 2>through the like New York City. The album took my

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 2>whole life to make that that a major without to

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 2>deal most so major. What I did is the album

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I always wanted to make because it's a combination and

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 2>a culmination of everybody I grew up listening to him

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 2>wanting to hear and rap and all my favorite rappers.

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I put Fat Joe on that ship. I had fifty

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<v Speaker 2>cent on every pushing teeth fab like whoever everybody was

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 2>on this shit, nor Prodigy, you know what I'm saying.

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 2>I made that album because I had the ability and

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<v Speaker 2>access to people. Ray Kwan ray Kuan one of my

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>favorite rappers for sure, you feel me. So that's that album.

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 2>New York City was the album that I did for

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<v Speaker 2>the city. That can't that that'd be one of my

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<v Speaker 2>greatest albums of classic albums to people from New York

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<v Speaker 2>City because I did that for the city. I took

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>my shine in my highlight and I sacrificed for the city.

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't trying to appeal to people everywhere else because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like my city needs this. I'm not gonna jump

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 2>on the south beat like everybody else is doing just

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:18.479
<v Speaker 2>to try to get on. I'm a sacrifice and I'm

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>a stand in tentoes down and rep for my city.

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 2>But this album did Hate I won. This is me

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>going through my most tragic time in life, going through

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 2>the lowest points in life. You know what I'm saying,

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 2>like total in the public eye and then overcoming that

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<v Speaker 2>and this city is like it ain't just dead.

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Hate.

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I wins ded hated. We won. Anybody that overcame some shit.

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>If you woke up this morning and you got some

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>level of success and his people hating on you, and

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 2>you still breathing, still carrying on as dead hated, we

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 2>won real shit. And it ain't nobody in hip hop

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.439
<v Speaker 2>history that could has gone through the shit that I

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>went through, lived, survived, and then been able to put

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<v Speaker 2>an album out with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that at times the spectacle if some

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>of these beats you're wrapped up and you might take

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>away from people like diving into the album?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Fuck Nigga's the opposite.

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Fuck No, I don't. I'm gonna be honest. I don't

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 2>even take the tongue like, like I said, I'm one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most authentic and raw artists to where I

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 2>don't pick and choose my battles. I don't say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, guys, this might be not politically correct right now,

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>let's not do this like I take the battles as

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 2>they come if I have time for it, you know

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So like I even think did hat

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I win has allowed people to see how lyrical choice

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>averge I mean real life lyrical like, since you niggas

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>like writing letters, higgo win did hater?

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<v Speaker 1>I won?

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm a boss. You would bump like the breakdown of

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>that you know hip hop on that album. I said,

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>since you niggas like writing letters, one get a pin.

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I write this as a free man. Paid half a

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>mill out the pen. I'm out of your lead. Don't

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>pretend bowling on point like a pin. I sat many months.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>You rode to the judge soon as you walked in.

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Mister Collins and his entourage me doing a lot of shootings,

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<v Speaker 2>a recent one outside of New York City club pursue them,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it's people suing, trying to take all I

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>stack got attempted murder because I took the gun from

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 2>him and bust back. These ain't no made up raps.

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm paraphrasing the facts. I'm the king of the underground.

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>He's just the underground rat. I rose up above the

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>road and sty trying to pull your boy back with

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>a coach shoulder cold to hand. Whoever reaching gets smacked,

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Smitret Brerett r L. I'm with w Iron, Lambo's and

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Bentley's where I dwell. It's a mansion for sale. I

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 2>bought that you just brought to a cell. A real

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>nigga lives on while a fake one dies in jail.

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I took the actual court documented statement from Ratstone and

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 2>put it in a song and made it lyrical. Mister

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Collins and his uncle rive doing a lot of shooting.

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not made up ship that people do. People make

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>up words, bowling on point like a pin. Everybody's no bars,

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 2>taking off smitter that you are l. I'm a w

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 2>you r l. I'm a w I in Lambos, iron

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 2>w I n win. You didn't get that stopping here,

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 2>don't do that. I'm a w I in Lambos and

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Bentley's where I dwell. It's a mention for sale talking

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>about where I dwell. I bought that you just brought

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 2>to a cell. Like these are the ships that people

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 2>won't get or understand. So now when you got the

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>light on you and shit, or you got more eyes

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>on you, people like, oh shit, I ain't know what

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 2>your avers that dope and I see it. I got

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 2>a podcast called Facto show. I see it in fact

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>because now I put out old records that I put

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>out a year ago, and motherfucker, yo, this is crazy. Yo.

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I put it out a year ago. You didn't see it,

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>then it's cool you wasn't paying attention. I don't. I

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 2>don't hope. Yeah, nothing. You late to the party, But

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 2>come on in now and enjoy it. We always we

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 2>showing love, we spreading love and destroy hate.

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this man, obviously uh rest in

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>peace to Hovain man who passed away last year from

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>a heart attack. Do you after when you lose somebody

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>like that? Did it make you regret any of the

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff that you put into the air about Hovain?

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Nah? I didn't, because I put nothing but facts into

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>there about Hoven. What you don't what you don't know

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>about Oven, You don't know the real You don't know

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 2>the real him, And just like a lot of people don't.

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I was on Math HALFE podcasts and I had to

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.719
<v Speaker 2>correct somebody. They were saying yeah and a p I said, man,

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 2>did you do anything for his kids with What you

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know is that I gave him the name Hoven.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 2>What you might not know is that I bought him

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>into the industry. You made I know that, Okay. Now,

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>what you don't know is your relationship with him comes

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 2>through me, right. What you don't know is he didn't

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 2>fuck with you. It was me saying, nah, I'll fuck

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 2>with keV you bugging. But Hovein knew how to play

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the game. Like I said, I'm raw and the cut.

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't pretend to fuck with people when I don't,

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't. If I fuck with you, I generally do.

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>If I don't, I just don't. There's no beef, no

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 2>personal I don't. He knows how to put on the

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>smile and face. That's why I say, hey, you be

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 2>at the forefront, be the manager. Now did he grow

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>to fuck with you later on? Yeah?

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>But me and him had like hours and hours of

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>conversations the last years.

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<v Speaker 2>So now here go to thing. Let me tell you

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>when when it counts and is real, it's countless people

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 2>who had hours and hours of conversations with him. They

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't countless people who had hours hours of conversation with me.

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Because it's worth more. It's not just given to anybody.

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 2>It's giving the people who I genuinely care for and generals.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason why I bring that up is because

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously I'm.

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Gonna tell you I don't regret anything. That's the truth.

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>But you're his kids godfather, correct yeah, one of one

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of his kids godfathers. And my thing is is when

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>there's that level of like love, it a certain point, right,

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>because I think there was like a certain point in

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>time or you put out like a almost like a podcast.

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>It was like a thirty minute thing where you were

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about what happened and you're talking about Vaine.

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 2>It was a check on the Dope Boy Chucky project.

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:08.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it was like kind of like you talking

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>for like it was about a half hour.

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Was just talking about the whole initiate part of me

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 2>meeting them, because, like I said, I deal in facts.

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I was talking about how when I got a management

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 2>deal with Butcher was God bless the day, real man.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 2>He put me on with rap and they say, Yo,

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give you this much money a week, And

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, why can you take some of that money

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>out of my money and give my partners k Cash

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>and Hovain which got nothing to do with music. I'm

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>just putting them on. We ride around selling music. Yo,

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>can you give them three hundred a week each? Six

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 2>hundred not out of your money, but out of my money.

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I did that. That's how I sacrificed for my people.

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 2>So for somebody that I did that for, they owe

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 2>me more than that. For somebody I helped get out

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 2>the projects, they owe me more than that. For somebody

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 2>who I gave a name to, I put this, this

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 2>was the dream of it is. I put them on

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 2>with their dream. I didn't. But it was managers that

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>I could have went with. And like most people do,

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>they switch managers, they just the people that they came

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 2>up with. I never did that, even with God with

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.919
<v Speaker 2>Money Nails, Chris Lighty, I'm like, yo, listen, I'm gonna

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 2>fuck with y'all, but my dog gotta be with me.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 2>That's real loyalty when when most managers be like, well, na,

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 2>it's only me or nobody you notice from being in

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 2>the game. But I'm like, yo, listen, that's twenty percent.

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 2>But my dog, who got no experience and don't know shit,

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 2>he got to be with me although I ain't fucking

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>with you. That's real loyalty that most people won't do.

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 2>And for somebody that does that, they owe me more.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 2>They owe me more than that than to have a

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:40.399
<v Speaker 2>we gotta understanding of I got charged with with Ford

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Counsel weapons possession, attempted murder and they was lingering the

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 2>murder of my friend Banger, my real friend over over

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>my head. I'm teld about Bangers, my real man, like

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>when he come home from jail, I'm bailing him out.

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:56.919
<v Speaker 2>We got the crib with a chef having shit there.

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.919
<v Speaker 2>Ove ain ain't there. You feel me. It's a fact.

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 2>So my thing is is, yeah, I'm saying they owe

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 2>me more than that to where if you and your

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>guys right here. I don't know everybody's position, but they here.

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 2>He's doing his thing. He's doing his thing. Let's just say,

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 2>y'all ride around, you get caught with a gun illegally.

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the dynamic y'all relationship, but I feel

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>like one of your guys should be like, yo, keV,

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 2>keep shit going. I'm gonna take this gun charge. I

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna sit for long. Just hold me down financially,

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>because if you go to jail, all this shit stops.

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Real shit. So now imagine coming from the street knowing that,

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 2>and now you into music, making more money and being

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:39.359
<v Speaker 2>more successful, and the game plan is oy yo, listen, y'all,

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 2>fucking nobody'll help me with no money for bail, no lawyer,

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 2>no nothing. It's cool. I got that. It's so all

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I need. I'm gonna fight this attempted murder and I'm

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna fight this gun this of a gun charge. Y'all

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>just fight the gun chargers. I'm paying for the lawyer

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and everything. I don't pay for a lawyer with hope

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.879
<v Speaker 2>before and beat it. John Stella Tonia beat a gun charge,

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 2>phone spinked it. Hey, I just need you all to

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 2>do that, all right, Bet I'll call Wolf you on

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 2>the phone home STD in court that yo. If they

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 2>when he finally when they bought up that they caught

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>the guns in it in court, he said the I'm

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna take the other gun because that's what we do.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.439
<v Speaker 2>That's what I did for him. That's what I'm gonna

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>do for anybody in a higher position that's holding us down.

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>back to the interview.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess for them to act funny all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden when he's gotta hold the end of the debugging,

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<v Speaker 2>that ain't want honey.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, that's like Hoving's passed away, Like he's not

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>here anymore, you know what I mean. And like, well,

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>we spoke after that. We spoke after that, We spoke

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>on multiple occasions. I've seen them and you know, it

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.280
<v Speaker 1>is what it is that don't take back the facts.

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>So my thing is this is like, you know there's

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Ship that's online now that like his kids are gonna

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>have to grow up and like you know when they

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>look up their pops on that fucking YouTube.

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.919
<v Speaker 2>Bro, it's it's the truth. But you gotta live in dying.

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>You don't regret anything that you said about him, like

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>because you were if I had made up stuff and

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I came up with slandering Ship and cool, but I

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 1>said Ship, that was the truth.

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.760
<v Speaker 2>They said I was on drugs, He said I was bugging.

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 2>He told somebody he had to get away before you

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 2>had to put hands on me playing the fuck were

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 2>with you put hands on joy ass that don't, nigga,

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Like these are the narratives that they pushed so that

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't look crazy when everybody's like, well why did

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 2>you leave as why wasn't you there? We come from.

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 2>If you come somewhere with somebody, you leave with them.

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 2>You don't leave your friends. I don't give a fuck.

0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 2>If you hear shots in the other room and your

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>people's went in that room to go to the bathroom, you

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>run the fuck in there. You don't walk out the door.

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 2>I got to get out of here. You go see

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 2>and make sure they're good. That's where we come from.

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 2>And when the pressure was on, they didn't stand on that.

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 2>So if his kids, if my kids got to see

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 2>shit online about me that shoe, they got to see it.

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 2>The fucking lady who said it im until looked at

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 2>her just died. People don't give a fuck. She should

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 2>have never said that shit. The bitch could burn in hell.

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Good riddance. I just think, like you taking it, it's

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 2>all about perspective, It's all about how you feel, and

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 2>you can't ever pacify somebody feelings because I was there

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 2>ground zero of the betrayal. That's like me saying, if

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:37.760
<v Speaker 2>something happens with you and my wife Keef, leave it alone.

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Well I think again, you talk about perspective. I think

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 2>like talking to him, there's like a different perspective on life.

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 2>You got you, but then you have the truth, bro,

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I only dealing the truth. I'm telling you don't know

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 2>this person. How I dealt with this, How everything that

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I said about these people. I show video evidence to

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 2>prove it everything. Here's the fact that you can ask.

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 2>You can ask yourself. You don't have to ask him.

0:41:58.880 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't ask him.

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 2>You don't even have to ask you ask yourself because

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I only deal in fact. No made up ship. Hey, yo, listen,

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.919
<v Speaker 2>average your man right, y'all came up out the mother together.

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 2>He put you on, He did everything for you. Why

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 2>why did you leave him and take all those guns.

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest one. Why fighting for his life?

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Myself a ridiculous leaf.

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I can't even there's no point in talking about my

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 1>guy's dad.

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.839
<v Speaker 2>So we don't even talk to God being dead. He's

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>my guy, keV. He didn't fuck with you. I'm the

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 2>win that made him fuck with you. So when he

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 2>came to the point, w you where you say some

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<v Speaker 2>ship like yo, average controversial? I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do the fucker is kept talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the win that start all this ship and you

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<v Speaker 2>having loyalty. Bro, I'm telling you, I have no reason

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<v Speaker 2>to lie. Whether I leave, whether I do this interview,

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<v Speaker 2>leave or not, I'm still gonna be rich, Bro, I'm

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 2>still gonna be me. I'm still gonna drop an album and

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm still gonna go top ten and Billboard. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do number one and number two independent, and I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>gonna live. I'm still gonna be at the floor seats

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<v Speaker 2>on fights. My life is still gonna be good. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling you real life ship, Bro. You don't even play

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 2>my records, and it don't matter. I'm gonna still be good.

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 2>But I'm telling you just for life moving on, be

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<v Speaker 2>loyal and truthful and holding down for the people that

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<v Speaker 2>would really hold it down for you. And don't ask

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 2>him he's dead. You can't but ask yourself, why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>somebody do that? These are the facts. Why was Ad

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for his life in a room by himself? Things

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 2>could have turned out different? So get left to take

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 2>all of these guns you went unless the converse, the

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 2>conversation you person that can take the gun.

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<v Speaker 1>The conversations that you guys had before he passed. Were

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys in a positive place because you posted like

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<v Speaker 1>a rest and peace post?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, we we was cool. But I'm gonna

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>tell you what the last conversation, Uh, the last conversation

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.360
<v Speaker 2>we were supposed to get up and he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>spun me like I've seen him in person, pulled him

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<v Speaker 2>on com in fact, well let's talk, nigga, Like you

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I saw your posts and I was like, well, shit, like,

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know if this was the

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>energy like it seems it was a positive post. You

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of negative energy towards now, that's not true.

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I spoke, I spoke to him. We had a situation

0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.760
<v Speaker 2>where we had to speak about some business.

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<v Speaker 1>But because you guys im in looking when you guys

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>were like fucking Damon and Hove.

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.760
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, It was like having Hoven.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm saying like in terms of like we was

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<v Speaker 2>like cho I never won't be like no other man.

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>But what I'm saying is, well, you can speak to

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody and nigga, two troops can be one you. They

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 2>could have done all of this bullshit and you can

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 2>still feel for their loss. That picture that I showed you,

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:28.280
<v Speaker 2>that that video that can be true. That that video

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 2>that I put up, that's before rap shit, that's freestyling.

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 2>And my mom's basement studio that I built and we

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 2>count with my drug money. You hear me that I

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 2>put them on to your here, come on, like I'm

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the type of friend and like, yo, I'm going by

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 2>these bricks you can put in with me. No, I

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 2>don't want to put in the eye. Well, I'll get

0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:48.279
<v Speaker 2>the bricks and whatever you sell, give me half. But

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 2>you got the opportunity to come in and be a

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 2>whole partner. That's before rap. That's before anything. That's when

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you and Temple not even know you care.

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<v Speaker 1>You can you can agree on two things can be

0:44:58.000 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 1>true at the same right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying you invite to the funeral invited? I

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<v Speaker 2>found out first, and I ain't know people getting invited

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<v Speaker 2>to the funerals. Who the fuck is invited to the funeral?

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I've never been invited to a funeral in my life.

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, that's nuts to be invited to

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<v Speaker 2>a funeral. Yes, you fucking grieving, So I wouldn't invite

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:17.399
<v Speaker 2>nobody your funeral if you put it like up, hey,

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 2>this person is gonna be is died this with funeral court,

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 2>you had to go to court that day, right, I

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 2>had to go to court that day, But not even that,

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<v Speaker 2>like Bro, I found out hoping died before you knew, or.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually I actually think I might have found out.

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I found out like the night that happened.

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 2>I found out, Yeah, I found it the night before.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody called me and were like, hey, just so you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's happened.

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I found seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a call as well.

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, then there you go. That's when I found out

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 2>he died. But you don't get invited to a funeral

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 2>at all. You could just go. I know people that

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't even like mutual friends of us, that don't even

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>they didn't even speak to him whatever, they went to

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 2>the funeral. It ain't no funerals opening.

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<v Speaker 1>When you lose somebody like him, does it make you

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>like kind of maybe want to patch some ship up

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>with someone like Leo?

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck? No, I don't leave the bro for what tell

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 2>is it here?

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<v Speaker 1>One? All right? Well, look then the new album's out. Yeah,

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>new albums out.

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 2>One God is getting the paper straight steam drop on

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.399
<v Speaker 2>the podcast Roll every every week we got episodes. Roll

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 2>with God. Believe in God. Spread love and destroy hate.

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 2>That's the mess to everybody. Spread love and destroy hate.

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Hate is a cancer there, any type of hate.