1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Crueer analyzes and debates the critical issues facing our 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: nation and Ringside Politics. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: Jumping the Ring with Jeff Creweer. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Is he squares off against the liberal media in Ringside Politics. 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: His blow by blow analysis will keep you up to speed. 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 3: With what's happening in our nation and. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Around the world. 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: This is politics with a punch. 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Ringside Politics with Jeff Creueer starts now. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 4: Good day everyone, Jeff Creweer here, Welcome to Ringside Politics 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 4: on Real America's Voice. We're going to be jam packed 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 4: today on the program. Heavy coverage of what is currently 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: going on in Minneapolis. We've got all kinds of a 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 4: focus we're going to be giving on that in the 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 4: program today, and some great guests are going to be 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: joining us to discuss that and other topics, including the 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: possibility of a US intervention in Iran. 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You know, 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: after the twenty twenty election was stolen, folks, so we 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: got busy here on ringside creating our own program that 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: has been growing ever since. It's called Project Keep the Republic, 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: and it's very unique. It was modeled after what Benjamin 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: Franklin said at the end of the Constitutional Convention when 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: he was asked, what kind of government have you given us? 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 4: He applied, Madam, a republic. But here are the keywords, 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: if you can keep it? 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 5: Now? 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: What does it take to keep a republic? 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: Real tangible action, adopting the warrior ethos, placing mission first, 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: never accepting defeat. Folks were never quitting. Organizing groups across 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 4: the country based on the days of the week. 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Note and 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: video that I think you'll enjoy in photos with President Trump. 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 4: My latest video is about something we're talking about today 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 4: and that's what is going on in Minneapolis. And the 59 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: video is entitled ice Agents need to be able to 60 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 4: do their jobs. Check it out right there at crewair 61 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 4: dot net and share it with your friends. Also information 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: about my first book, America's Last Chance, wrapping up the 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: second one. Hopefully we'll have that out well before the 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 4: midterm elections. Also on crew ara dot net, we've got 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: my midterm election countdown clock the most important midterm in 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 4: the history of our country. You can subscribe to our 67 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 4: new podcast right number two in Louisiana on the Air, 68 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: which you have crew Air. 69 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: You can also sign up for our. 70 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: Free Ringside Politics newsletter, which keeps you updated on what 71 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: we're doing. And I'd love for you to take our 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: poll we just posted it. Here's a question. Iran is 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: facing the biggest protests in the forty seven year history 74 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: of that Islamic regime. What should the US response be. 75 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 4: We've got options on there for you to examine. Give 76 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: me your thoughts anywhere from nothing to military invasion and 77 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: all kinds of options in between. So check out crewair 78 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 4: dot net castro vote let me know what you think 79 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: we should do with Iran. We've got a guest coming 80 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: up who's going to be talking about that issue a 81 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: little bit later on. You can contact me there on 82 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: the site. You can also email me at Jeff atwgso 83 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 4: dot com. You can also contact me on social media. 84 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 4: We're on gab, get her True Social and x at 85 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: Jeff Creeer, and we're also on Facebook at Ringside Politics. 86 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: All Right. 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 4: Every time we gather, we share our favorite pro Trump 88 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: image of the week, and this one is from Robert 89 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: in Virginia, and this is very good shows what these 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: European leaders are doing and the direction they're going, and 91 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 4: of course where President Trump is trying to leave them, 92 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: but these people are insistent on going in the wrong path. 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: So thank you Robert in the great state of Virginia. 94 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: Every time we gather, we give out a shout out 95 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: to ringson Politics Champion of the week this week. 96 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: It's a group that is. 97 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: Trying to preserve history. 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Some of the hot. 119 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: Topics that we're following on this program today, of course, 120 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 4: what's going on in Minneapolis. We've got a live shot 121 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: of what is happening there. These protests have been accelerating. 122 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: An individual was shot earlier this morning at about nine 123 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: o'clock Central time. He approached ICE Avents agents with a 124 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: weapon and two magazines. According to Department of Homeland Security officials, 125 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: they got into a struggle and he was shot and killed. 126 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 4: After that incident, protesters started gathering, screaming at ICE agents, 127 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: yelling at them, throwing things at them. The agents have 128 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: deployed tear gas to disperse the crowd. More protesters are arriving. 129 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: This happens just two weeks two plus weeks after the 130 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: shooting of Renee Good, another individual who was doing what 131 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: she shouldn't have been doing with ICE agents. So this 132 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 4: is a very problematic situation going on in Minnesota. Here 133 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: is the incident of what happened with the gentleman that 134 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 4: we're showing you right now, this fifty one year old 135 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: person who was shot and killed because he came at 136 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: ICE agents with a weapon, and they have distributed photos 137 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: of the weapon, the handgun that he had with him. 138 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 4: And you know, you don't approach agents in a confrontational, 139 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 4: violent manner. You don't approach agents with a firearm and 140 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: try to utilize that firearm. 141 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: I mean, something is going to happen to you, like 142 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: what happened to this person. Now. 143 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: Of course, the protesters all see this as a way 144 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: to attack ICE, and they consider, you know, Ice the enemy. Well, 145 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: what ICE is trying to do is, of course, implement 146 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: what we you and I, the American people voted for 147 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: in November twenty twenty four. You know, President Trump, when 148 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: he ran for office all the way starting in twenty 149 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: sixteen and twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, one of 150 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: his biggest issues was controlling immigration, securing the border. ICE 151 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: is implementing the will of the people. Ice is implementing 152 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: what we voted for. So this is the will of 153 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: the American people that these protesters that these Democrats are 154 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: trying to thwart, and these incidents wouldn't be happening if 155 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: these protesters would be abiding by what these ICE agents 156 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: are telling them to do. They are just trying to 157 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 4: follow the law. The American people wanted folks that are 158 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: here illegally to be deported. That's what these ICE agents 159 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 4: are trying to do. Some of these folks, about seventy 160 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: percent of them, have a criminal past, many of them 161 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: very violent. So you're here illegally, that's a crime. Then 162 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: you have other crimes that you're committing. Some of these 163 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: folks are pedophile, some are murderers, some have been involved 164 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: in rape and human trafficking. And that's what ICE is 165 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 4: trying to do, remove these people from neighborhoods. 166 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: There should be. 167 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: Celebrations all over our country from people welcoming ICE, thanking 168 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: ICE for what they're doing, thanking President Trump cleaning up cities, 169 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: cleaning up neighborhoods. But instead, what do the Democrats do. 170 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 4: They embraced people like kill mar Abrego Garcia, a guy 171 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 4: who was a gang member, spousal abuser, human trafficker, trying 172 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 4: to make sure that he stays in our country. They're 173 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 4: applauding the actions of Rene Good when she was impeding 174 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 4: an ICE investigation operation. 175 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 3: And I'm sure they're going to applaud this fifty one 176 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: year old. 177 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: Person who had a weapon on him and could have 178 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 4: killed ICE agents. So the Left celebrates criminals, celebrates those 179 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 4: who are here illegally, goes after people that are putting 180 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 4: their lives on the line every day. These ICE agents, 181 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: these family members of ICE agents. My heart goes out 182 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: to them. My prayers are with them. They're being docksed, 183 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 4: they're being targeted. Some of them are in hiding, and 184 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 4: they're trying to harass them at hotels if they stay in. 185 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 4: These protesters, many of them are lunatics and are criminals themselves. 186 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: So I'm calling on President Trump. I've been calling on 187 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: President Trump to invoke something called the Insurrection Act, which 188 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 4: will allow him to deploy federal troops there to bring 189 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: a handle on what is going on in that city 190 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: and to try to bring some law and order to Minneapolis. 191 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: Because here's the problem, folks. The governor is making things worse. 192 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: The mayor is making things worse. He's the guy who 193 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: said get that f out of the city. The mayor 194 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: that is irresponsible. That is, in my opinion, disgusting. These 195 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: people are making things much much worse in their city, 196 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: in their state. 197 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 3: They're trying to. 198 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: Evade responsibility for the fraud that was involved in their state, 199 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: the Somalia fraud, and Nick Shirley and others uncovered trying 200 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: to divert attention to ICE and lead protests against it 201 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: because they don't want to pay the political price and 202 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 4: maybe criminal charges for what happened with all this waste, 203 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: fraud and abuse involving the Somali population in the state 204 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: of Minnesota. So now they're latching onto this using it 205 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: as a campaign to demonize ICE and the Trump administration. 206 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: So I think the president needs to look at options 207 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: such as trying to bring lawn order to the great 208 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 4: state of Minnesota by deploying federal troops. And that can 209 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: be done by invoking the Insurrection Act. The last time 210 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 4: it was done was a ninth, teen ninety two by 211 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: President George H. W. Bush after riots in Los Angeles, 212 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 4: the Rodney King riots, if you remember those, all right, 213 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: A lot. 214 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: To get to as we roll on. 215 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: We've got some great guests, you're going to be checking 216 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: in with us right here on ringside on Real America's Voice, 217 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 4: Jeff Career with you. 218 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. 219 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: All right, We're back, folks, And of course we're covering 220 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 4: so many different issues here today, but focusing primarily on 221 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: what is going on in Minneapolis. Just to recap, you know, 222 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: several weeks after what happened in Minneapolis, the shooting involving 223 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: Renee Good and the thirty seven year old died as 224 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: a result, you had master protests after that, and today 225 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 4: this morning, an individual was shot and killed by ICE agents. 226 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: He had a weapon with two magazines. The agents felt 227 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: obviously threatened by the situation and the person has been killed. 228 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: Don't have a name of the fifty one year old man, 229 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: but it has led to a protest. Tear gas has 230 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: been deployed, We've had an unlawful assembly called so the 231 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: ICE agents on the ground trying to restore order there. 232 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 4: And obviously it's a chaotic situation made worse by local 233 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: leaders that are encouraging protesters and the fact that you 234 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: have a lot of the police a National Guard that 235 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: really have been ordered to stand down and not really 236 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: help arrest some of these individuals that are committing crimes 237 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 4: and attacking ICE agents. Well, let's bring on our first 238 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: guest and gentleman who is very familiar to our viewers 239 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: here in the RINGSI Podics program. He's a legal analyst, 240 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 4: author and former assistant US attorney. He wrote a great 241 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 4: book called Postgate, very knowledgeable, involved in the whole Watergate 242 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 4: scandal that led to the downfall, of course of President 243 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: Richard Nixon. Let's say hello to our friend John O'Connor, 244 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: who's joining us here in the program today. 245 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: And John, how are you sir? 246 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 6: Welcome? 247 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: Hey, John, are you with us? Can you hear us? 248 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 7: Yes? 249 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: I can? 250 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: There you are? How are you sir? 251 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: All right, let's go back to John if we could 252 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: in a little bit try to get that connection worked out. 253 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: And we want to hear from John on of a 254 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: of issues. And he can also give us some of 255 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: his legal expertise on what is going on in Minnesota. 256 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: So we've got another guest that we can bring on. 257 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: Now. 258 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: Now you heard my Ringside Politics web pole question where 259 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: I'm asking what should we do in Iran? I mean, 260 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: the options are all the way from nothing to supporting 261 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: the CIA for regime change. To supporting Israel, humanitarian aid 262 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: for the protesters, military aid for the protesters, or US 263 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 4: military involvement. Well, someone that knows a lot about it. 264 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: She's a former Iranian political prisoner. She's a board member 265 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: for the US Foundation for Liberty and Human Rights. Hamira 266 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: Hassami is with us, and Hamia, how are you welcome? 267 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 6: I'm fine, Thank you, thanks for having me. 268 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: Well, thank you for joining us. And Mahart goes out 269 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 4: to all the Iranian people dealing with this brutal regime. 270 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: You suffered tremendously a political prisoner. You want to tell 271 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: us about that experience and what you had to endure. 272 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 6: I was in solitary confinement for over a month and 273 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 6: spent a few months in prison for just my activism, 274 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 6: not against the regime, you know. 275 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 8: I was just. 276 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 6: Reading and researching women's right. But the regime when it's 277 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:31,239 Speaker 6: on verge of collapse, it thinks that every single organization 278 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: is against is against it, so it put us in prison. 279 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 6: And in prison, I realized that the only way to 280 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 6: deal with this regime is to join resistance and support 281 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 6: the main Iranian opposition themk So that was an experience 282 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 6: that made me very passionate about the cause and the 283 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 6: goals that themk is following to overthrow the regime. 284 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: So this regime has been in place since the downfall 285 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 4: of the Shaw So we're looking at forty seven years 286 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: incredibly am era and does it what percentage of the 287 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: people in Iran support the radical Islamic regime the iatola? 288 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 4: How many what percentage of people actually subscribe to that 289 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 4: kind of Islamic theocracy. 290 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 6: This regime, it wasn't legitimate from the beginning because when 291 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 6: people overthrew the Shaw's dictatorship, they wanted freedom and democracy. 292 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 6: But how many came and kind of hijacked the revolution 293 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 6: and did not provide what people revolted for freedom. So 294 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 6: from the beginning, people students especially, and they resisted and 295 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 6: they protested this regime and they wanted their rights. And 296 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 6: that's why from the beginning we have a lot of 297 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 6: overcrowded prisons and many people were executed. In nineteen eighty one, 298 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 6: you know, that was the beginning of a bloody era 299 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 6: with the people and the regime. So many people were executed. 300 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 6: A lot of political prisoners end up in nineteen eighty 301 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 6: eight massacre, which were thirty thousand political prisoners, mostly affiliated 302 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 6: with the main Iranian opposition group, the MEK, were hanged 303 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 6: in a matter of two or three months. So the 304 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 6: people from the beginning did not want this regime. So 305 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 6: it's not something new. But somehow because of I guess 306 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: I would say the failed policy of the western countries 307 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 6: that they tried to appease the regime. They try to 308 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 6: somehow try to work with reformers inside the country. So 309 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 6: it didn't work. But people, if you want to give 310 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 6: me a percentage, if I want to, if I want to, 311 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 6: you know know, at percentage is very very low, it's 312 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 6: less than five per crand. 313 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: So ninety five percent want change, they want freedom, they 314 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: want this regime to be overthrown. Now, remember I'm sure 315 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: you were supportive of the two thousand and nine the 316 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 4: Green movement there where you had an uprising, but that 317 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: was brutally repressed. They didn't seem to get much support 318 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: from the outside countries. This is happening and now maybe 319 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 4: even bigger than what you had in two thousand and nine. 320 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: And you do have a president that is lending his 321 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 4: moral support and he could be lending military support soon. 322 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 4: Because this was a president that knocked out their nuclear 323 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: facilities just a few months ago. So if you were 324 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: advising Homara President Trump, what would you advise him to 325 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 4: do with the situation in Iran right now? 326 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 6: I would say that what we see right now is 327 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 6: a culmination of decades of organized resistance against the regime. 328 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 6: So what we saw recently wasn't a spontaneous you know, 329 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 6: as you mentioned, there were two thousand and nine uprising 330 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 6: that started with the what is my vote? You know, 331 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 6: it was like a political demand, and then we had 332 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 6: like in multiple rounds of uprisings in the recent years. 333 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 6: So I would say that there is an organized resistance 334 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 6: inside Iran which is led by the MK affiliated resistance units, 335 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 6: and the Iranian people want change and they want the 336 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 6: whole regime to go. They don't want to work with 337 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 6: one faction of it or the other faction. 338 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: So what should President Trump? 339 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: What should the US role be to try to accelerate 340 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: the movement towards change and reform and getting rid of 341 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 4: this horrible regime which is the number one founder of 342 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: terrorism around the world. So you know, they're only killing 343 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: their own people, they're killing innocent people all over the 344 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 4: world because they support terrorism. So what should our role be? 345 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 4: I've got a poll question right now at my website. 346 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: Crew not asking that very question. You're the expert, So 347 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 4: what would you say. 348 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 6: I would I would welcome, you know, firmness against the regime, 349 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 6: and that's what we have been asking for decades. We 350 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 6: have to put sanctions on the regime. We have to 351 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 6: hold the regime accountable for the massacre, for the authrocities 352 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 6: that it's doing against the people, for the crimes against humanity. 353 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 6: You know, the regime has committed crimes against humanity. It's 354 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 6: not the first time. So we have to hold the regime. 355 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 6: We have to close all the loopholes. We have to 356 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 6: cut the financial help that the regime is getting. We 357 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 6: have to you know, cut down the old revenue that 358 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 6: the regime is gaining. So we have a lot of things. 359 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: That should there be any should there be any military 360 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 4: any military involvement at all, in your. 361 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 6: View, I would believe the Iranian resistance and inside, you know, 362 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 6: there is a very well organized opposition and they are 363 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 6: capable of changing the regime. We have to recognize, you know, 364 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 6: that's very important thing. You have to recognize the right 365 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 6: of the Iranian people to overthrow. As you may know, 366 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 6: there is a resolution in the Congress exactly asking for that. 367 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 6: So if the administration can implement the recommendation that this 368 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 6: policy is given, that would be great. So it's called ter. 369 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: So you're talking about sanctions, supporting the regime, supporting the 370 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: protesters by putting sanctions on the regime, cutting off their revenue, 371 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: and encouraging the protesters withinside that country to succeed in 372 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: overthrowing it without getting any military involvement. 373 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: Okay, so my final question, go ahead. 374 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just wanted to say that the National Councilar 375 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: Resistance of Iran does have a very clear platform and 376 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 6: this entity is led by a woman, Mariam Rajavi, So 377 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 6: it has a clear platform for overthrowing the regime and 378 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 6: what comes after that one? 379 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 4: So we now, what about the Shaws? What about the 380 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: Shaw's son? He has been mentioned as a possible successor. 381 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: A lot of people are supportive of the monarchy, others 382 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: are not. 383 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 6: What say you, Amira, I do not think anybody in 384 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 6: Iran is supporting monarchy. 385 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: To think a love it. 386 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 6: Don't rejected monarchy in nineteen seventy nine, It'll be absurd 387 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 6: and you know, very ridiculous to ask people to choose 388 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 6: one person as monarch. You know, we didn't even people 389 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 6: want freedom and democracy and monarchy isn't. 390 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: Well, and that's what we want. 391 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 4: That's what one for the people of Iran, freedom and democracy, 392 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 4: and we hope and pray that that's going to happen soon. 393 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being with us. 394 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: Thank you for your work in opposing this dictatorial, terroristic 395 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: regime in Iran that hopefully is seeing its last days. 396 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 4: All right, quick time out, More ring psypotics coming your way. 397 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: We've got seen means now of what is going on 398 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 4: in Minneapolis, so we're following the upprising there, these protests 399 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: that have been occurring since the shooting earlier this morning 400 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: of a fifty one year old who was armed and 401 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: in a confrontation with Ice agents. He wound up being 402 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 4: shot dead, but he did have a weapon to magazines 403 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 4: with him, and this is an ongoing situation. We're covering 404 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 4: it throughout the program. Let's take care of some business, 405 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 4: quick time outs, we'll be right back. 406 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: Minnesota's headlines are getting wild. Tim Walls and ilanto Omar 407 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: are being accused of massive fraud and it's so bad 408 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: all you can do is laugh at this point. So 409 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: from Real America's music. 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The Somali 415 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: Waltz available everywhere. 416 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: Salis welcome back, of course, covering what's going on in 417 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 4: Minneapolis today, and I wanted to share with you some 418 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 4: of the comments at the Mayor of Minneapolis had to say. 419 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: He's a guy of or who said to get the 420 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: f out of Minneapolis to ice. He's been acting, in 421 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: my view, in atrocious manner, not as a leader, someone 422 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 4: who is really poured gasoline on this fire. And he 423 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 4: also was a horrible leader during the George Floyd riots 424 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty, and of course the city burned down, 425 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 4: much of it hasn't even been repaired, replaced, restored since then. 426 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 4: So let's check out some of what Mayor Jacob Fry 427 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: had to say this morning. 428 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: Let's check it out. 429 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 9: Just saw a video of more than six masked agents 430 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 9: pummeling one of our constituents and shooting him to death. 431 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 9: How many more residents? How many more Americans need to 432 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 9: die or get badly hurt for this operation to end? 433 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 9: How many more lives need to be lost before this 434 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 9: administration realizes that a political and partisan narrative is not 435 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 9: as important as American values. 436 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 4: Let's bring on our guests who can give us some 437 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 4: insight into what's going on. He's a legal analyst, author, 438 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: former assistant US attorney. John O'Connor is with us, and John. 439 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 8: How are you, Jeff. 440 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 3: Good to have you on the program, sir, Thanks for 441 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 3: being with. 442 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 8: Us in fristing times. 443 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, John, let's talk a little bit about what's 444 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: going on there. Of course, you have ICE agents that 445 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 4: are being attacked by protesters. They are trying to implement 446 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 4: US law. They're trying to arrest people that are here illegally. 447 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 4: They're following through on the will of the American people. 448 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 4: We voted for this by electing President Trump. Yet these 449 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: protesters are trying to stop it. The local and state 450 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 4: authorities aren't helping. They're encouraging the protesters. So it is 451 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 4: a very very difficult situation for these ICE agents to 452 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: be in what's your analysis, John. 453 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 7: As Mayor Fry said, a political narrative. Partisan political narrative 454 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 7: is not as important and values. But who is it 455 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 7: that's trying to put a partisan political narrative on this 456 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 7: simple situation of enforcing our laws. It's the leftists who 457 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 7: are coming in first of all before this to have 458 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 7: sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. And then secondly when this, 459 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 7: which makes it a case that you do not have detainers, 460 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 7: so you can't use the process of allowing local law 461 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 7: enforcement to help bring you and cooperate with you and 462 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 7: bring you lawbreakers. You have to do it yourself through 463 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 7: the federal your federal agents, and you don't have local 464 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 7: backup because the police do not help you help the 465 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 7: ICE agents. So therefore you need more ICE agents, and 466 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 7: so therefore you have a situation in which ICE has 467 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 7: to come into places like Minneapolis. And then of course 468 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 7: there's the protests that are putting fuel on this fire. 469 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 7: This whole thing is caused by this really juvenile leftist 470 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 7: deal that if you are enforcing the immigration laws, there's 471 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 7: something terrible about you. So it's too bad that this 472 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 7: is happening. But on the other hand, we've got a 473 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 7: situation in which should law enforcement merely because there are 474 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 7: protests like this, should they therefore turn tail and run. 475 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 7: It's not a good sign. It's not a good activity 476 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 7: if you award this activity. 477 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 4: And we're going to have on a former police sergeant 478 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 4: to give us some more insight in a few minutes. 479 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 4: But I want to ask you about the question a 480 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 4: lot of people have been wondering, John, should the president 481 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 4: invoke what's called the Insurrection Act? And you correct me 482 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 4: if I'm wrong, which would give him the authority to 483 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 4: send in federal troops to restore order. Last time it 484 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: was used was in nineteen ninety two by President George H. W. 485 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: Bush to restore order after the Rodney King riots there, 486 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: and has been used many times in the past by 487 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 4: different presidents Eisenhower, Kennedy, certainly, Lyndon Johnson utilized a number 488 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 4: of times, even Ronald Reagan utilized at once. Is that 489 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 4: you think a wise course of action or not? 490 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: John? 491 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 7: Broadly, a legal course of action. There's no doubt about 492 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 7: it that you can use the Insurrection Act when local 493 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 7: law enforcement is not adequate to keep law and order. 494 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 7: There's no doubt about that. That's one of the reasons 495 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 7: you'd call in the federal militia. Now, is it a 496 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 7: wise thing to do? Is another matter. I'd think in 497 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 7: a way right now, just d I think President Trump 498 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 7: is wise not to take the bait right now and 499 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 7: let this thing play out and hopefully dissipate. But it's legal, 500 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 7: I'm not so sure it's wise because I think that's 501 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 7: what these other folks would like. They'd like to see 502 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 7: the National guardens so they can claim, oh, it's more 503 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 7: to stopotactic sissus Hitler again. So that's the only that's 504 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 7: my only hesitation here. At the same time, I don't 505 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 7: think that I should turn tail and run. I think 506 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 7: it's a good idea to let this thing play out 507 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 7: like a fish on a hook, let them swim for 508 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 7: a while. They can't protest every day. It's costing somebody 509 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 7: a lot of money to finance these protesters. Some of 510 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 7: them are working for free, of course, but many are not. 511 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 4: And John, let me ask you this, is there anything 512 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 4: that these ICE agents are doing that is illegal in 513 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: any way? Do these protesters have any basis for their 514 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 4: radical response to what ICE is doing? 515 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 7: And as a matter of fact, I think the ICE 516 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 7: agents are very restrained. I can tell you this in 517 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 7: a regular law enforcement basis. 518 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 8: You don't come up. 519 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 7: If I came up and started throwing things at a 520 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 7: police officer, even in the very cool, lefty town of 521 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 7: San Francisco, I think I'd find myself in jail, wouldn't 522 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 7: I find myself thrown in a paddy wagon very forcefully. 523 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 7: And so the ice agents are being very restrained, and 524 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 7: I don't think that they're acting wrongly. Any time there's 525 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 7: a situation like this, they can use reasonable force, and 526 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 7: if confronted by deadly force, of course they can respond 527 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 7: with deadly force. Not only can, they should respond with 528 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 7: deadly force. So when there's a shooting, the question is 529 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 7: there a reasonable apprehension that the agent's life is in danger, 530 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 7: or for that matter, is deadly forced necessary to prevent 531 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 7: serious harm to other people. So that's really the issue 532 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 7: in all these things is the reasonable belief of the officer. 533 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 7: So I see nothing, there's nothing okay wrong with what 534 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 7: they're doing, And as a matter of fact, they're being 535 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 7: very restrained. This whole thing is being set up by 536 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 7: these protesters, and that seems terrible about our country right now. 537 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 6: Jeff. 538 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's the same thing that happened in the 539 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 4: summer twenty twenty when you had outside groups funding these 540 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: protesters and burning down cities. And you know, in that case, 541 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: the president was very restrained as well, didn't invoke the 542 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 4: Insurrection Act, and many people thought he should have back then. 543 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: He's taken your advice so far hasn't. We'll see if 544 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 4: that continues. Hopefully this can dissipate John. As always, we 545 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: appreciate you, thanks so much for joining us. We're now 546 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 4: going to get another perspective of someone who is founder 547 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 4: and CEO of nine to eleven at Ease International. He's 548 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 4: also retired Santa Barbara, California police sergeant. Mike McGrew was 549 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 4: with us here on the Ringside Politics program. Hey Mike, 550 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: how are you welcome? 551 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 8: Good? Thank you for having me here. 552 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 4: Mike, you see what's going on in Minneapolis that we're 553 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 4: covering today. Law enforcement there seems to be in a 554 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 4: no win situation. The leadership there doesn't want them involved. 555 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 4: These ice agents are being attacked. How do you think 556 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 4: the local police are handling it, Mike, Well. 557 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 10: I think it comes down the way you said about 558 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 10: leadership having been involved. 559 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 8: I was involved in the Rodney. 560 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 10: King riots back in the nineties, and I saw how 561 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 10: leadership ended up agitating that situation and creating chaos and 562 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 10: all the Greater Los Angeles area. And we weren't prepared 563 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 10: for that because the leadership didn't want is to be 564 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 10: prepared for that. And now you look at this situation 565 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 10: here and you've seen the different shooting and you've seen 566 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 10: people come to conclusions that somebody was murdered, you know, 567 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 10: very hard worked when they don't know all the facts, 568 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 10: they don't know what's happening in the case. Also, you know, conversely, 569 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 10: on the other side, you know, people need to be 570 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 10: careful about saying that a shooting was a good shoot 571 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 10: before the investigation is done. So you know, these are 572 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 10: things that you have to take seriously. It takes time 573 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 10: to investigate them and and then you move forward so 574 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 10: that you do get the public trust. But with Minneapolis, 575 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 10: you know, I've seen, you know, back when after the 576 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 10: death of George Floyd, I was there. I saw how 577 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 10: four square blocks of the city was taken over and 578 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 10: the police did not go in. I saw how a 579 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 10: police precinct was burnt down, and you know that there 580 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 10: just wasn't a lot of support from their leadership. 581 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 4: Of that well, and it reminds me of the mayor 582 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 4: of Baltimore back during the Freddie Gray riots. He said 583 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 4: that they wanted to give the protesters quote space to destroy. 584 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 4: And then of course, you know they had burnings in Baltimore. 585 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 4: You had it in Ferguson, you had it after Trayvon Martin, 586 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 4: you had it after George Floyd. Now we're going to 587 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 4: see it here expanding. And police are sort of caught 588 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 4: in these situations where you have progressive mayors they want to, 589 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 4: you know, protect their city, telling them one thing, these 590 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 4: protesters that are going crazy and attacking property and people 591 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 4: and in this case are going after ice agents. You know, 592 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 4: I remember back in the George Floyd riots, Minneapolis lost 593 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 4: a lot of police officers. 594 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 3: Remember there was. 595 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 4: A defund the police movement. Kamala Harris was raising money 596 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 4: for the people that were put in jail for that. 597 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 4: And I don't think, Mike, and you can correct me 598 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 4: if I'm wrong, police departments across the country ever recovered 599 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 4: from that. I know in my city of New Orleans, 600 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 4: we're five hundred officers short of where we should be. 601 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 4: I know in Minneapolis there are hundreds of officers short 602 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 4: of where they should be. So this is a very 603 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 4: tough situation for law enforcement. 604 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: Isn't it. 605 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 10: Absolutely. Minneapolis lost a third of its department and they 606 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 10: never recovered. And what happens when that occurs is that 607 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 10: the job becomes even that much more dangerous for the 608 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 10: officers who are enforced in a lot because they don't 609 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 10: have backup. It becomes more dangerous for the community because 610 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 10: you don't have the proper resources doing the police work 611 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 10: out there. And so, you know, it's been a very 612 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 10: difficult time since twenty twenty to recruit. You know, when 613 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 10: there's a negative, just a broad brush that tries to 614 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 10: paint all police officers is bad or that it's not 615 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 10: a noble profess profession. For thirty one years, I worked 616 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 10: with people of amazing courage, character, restraint, compassion. Those are 617 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 10: the people that are working, yes, and you see tens 618 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 10: of thousands of those acts happen every single day throughout 619 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 10: this country. You may not see it on the media. 620 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 10: You may see one or two controversial things happened, but 621 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 10: people need to know that the folks who are serving 622 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 10: they do it not doing it for the money. They're 623 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 10: doing it. 624 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 8: Because they have and they really care about their community. 625 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I'm looking at these ICE agents. I 626 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 4: mean they're literally putting their lives on the line. They're 627 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 4: being docs, they're being attacked. I mean, their families are 628 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 4: being put in danger, and they're doing this to uphold 629 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 4: the law and follow through on the wishes of the 630 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 4: American people that voted for these deportations in the last election. 631 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 4: And for that, they're being called every name in the book, 632 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 4: and they're really in jeopardy themselves. So another tragic incident occurring. 633 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: As you say, we got to get to the bottom 634 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 4: of it with an investigation. But let me just conclude 635 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: by this, and we got to go Mike. But when 636 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 4: you were there in California after Rodney King riots and 637 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 4: they did implement the Insurrection Act and troops did come in, 638 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 4: did that help quell the riots? 639 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 6: You know? 640 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 10: It was It was so bad that we went to 641 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 10: a military base and then we were dispatched out to 642 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 10: different difficult parts of the Los Angeles area, And the 643 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 10: part that I was in, we were told that we 644 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 10: cannot arrest anybody because jails were full, and that the 645 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 10: only person we could arrest was somebody who shot at us. 646 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 10: So the roles of engagement became, like, you know, completely, 647 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 10: it was so foreign to everybody that was out there. 648 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 8: We did the best for the folks that were there. 649 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 10: I mean, I do have to say that I was 650 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 10: completely impressed that the neighborhoods I was in were good people. 651 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 10: Ten percent were the ones that were destroying the neighborhood 652 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 10: and so, you know, it was hardening to see people 653 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 10: come out thank us for being there. But when the 654 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 10: military came in, they weren't prepared. They didn't even have bullets, 655 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 10: and so we were still kind of on our own. 656 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: So you know, yeah, I think they would come in 657 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 4: more prepared this time. But that's interesting that perspective because 658 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 4: you certainly lived through it. And thank you for your service. 659 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining us, and look forward 660 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 4: to visiting with you again. Retired Sergeant Mike McGrew with 661 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 4: us here on the Rings at Poltics program. Let's take 662 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 4: a break, quick time outs. A lot more coming your ways. 663 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 4: We're covering the ongoing situation in Minneapolis, the protests and 664 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 4: the very disturbing attacks on ice continuing by some of 665 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 4: these radicals, So we'll cover it a lot more when 666 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 4: we come back right after this, All right, welcome back, 667 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 4: continuing our coverage of what is going on in Minneapolis. 668 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 4: So the mayor made comments where he blamed ICE agents 669 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 4: for quote, pummeling one of our constituents and shooting him 670 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 4: to death. He denounced the impunity of federal agents operating 671 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 4: in Minneapolis. Governor Tim Walls called on President Trump to 672 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 4: pull ICE out of Minneapolis and allow Minnesota to leave 673 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 4: lead an investigation into the shooting. What DHS is saying 674 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 4: is that the man had a handgun and two magazines. 675 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 4: He approached the Border patrol officers quote in a violent manner. 676 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 4: He resisted when the officers tried to disarm him, an 677 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 4: agent shot him in self defense. So obviously this has 678 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 4: led to more protests and the leaders are just pouring 679 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 4: gasoline on the fire there in Minnesota. To add some 680 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 4: more perspective to this, We've got on a podcast host 681 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 4: and author. We interviewed him before about his great book 682 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 4: about Elon Musk. He's also a spokesperson for Save our Cities. 683 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 4: Let's welcome back to the program a Dennis Neil, who's 684 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 4: with us here in the Ringsipotics program. Hey Dennis, how 685 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 4: are you hell? 686 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: Hi? 687 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 5: Jeff, sorry to be here for this particular incident, and 688 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 5: of course there's not all details known, but I think 689 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 5: that there's one assumption, if I may broach with you, 690 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 5: and that is, when something like this happens, I think 691 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 5: that the federal agents that are involved are operating out 692 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 5: of fear, feeling in danger. I don't think there's any 693 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 5: federal agents out there looking to kill immigrants, illegal immigrants 694 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 5: in any way, and yet the local officials sometimes seem 695 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 5: to take a posture that acts as if that might be. 696 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 3: So. 697 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 5: Remember we just saw in Portland, Oregon, it was only 698 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 5: a week ago perhaps that there was a shooting of 699 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 5: two people. Well, every major city official and local official, 700 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 5: state legislators got out there hours later, our thoughts and 701 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 5: prayers go to the families, and it turned out they 702 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 5: were two affiliates of this violent Venezuelan gang. They were 703 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 5: wanted in a couple of previous shootings, and even the 704 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 5: Portland police had them under investigation. So there's this assumption 705 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 5: by local officials that the federal officials are always bad 706 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 5: and somehow malevolent in this, and I don't well think 707 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 5: that's what's going on. 708 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 4: But I would say, Dennis, you see it in blue 709 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 4: cities in blue states, in red states like here in Louisiana. 710 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 4: When we had ICE here, the governor welcomed them. I mean, 711 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 4: we had cooperation. We had people taking selfies with these agents. 712 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 4: And Commander Lavino, he said there were only one attack 713 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 4: on an ICE agent during all the time that they 714 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 4: were here. You go to Minneapolis and it's constant attacks, 715 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 4: and the local officials have a much different aposture. 716 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 3: But Dennis didn't. And Trump run on this platform that. 717 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 4: We were going to increase deportations and remove the people 718 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 4: that are here illegally, that were let in by Joe Biden. 719 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 4: Don't ICE agents have to do this to implement that policy? 720 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: Is it? 721 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 3: This the will of the people. 722 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 5: They're enforcing the law and the will of the people. 723 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 5: And I saw stunning numbers the other day that said 724 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 5: Clinton during his eight years of deported twenty million. I 725 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 5: think it was Obama in his eight years deported something 726 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 5: like twelve million. Trump has been able to reportort perhaps 727 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,919 Speaker 5: one and a half or two million. And yet there's 728 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 5: all this uproar. It's more because is it because of Trump? 729 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 5: Was because they really think that these people who came 730 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 5: here illegally, who followed no rules, that they deserved to 731 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 5: just be here because they were able to get here. 732 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 3: It's just an outrage. 733 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 5: I got married to a Canadian. Okay, it took us 734 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 5: two years to get approval for her to come over 735 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 5: here and join me, and then it took twenty five 736 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 5: months to get a green card that then lasted only 737 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 5: twenty four months. Okay, she followed the rules. But all 738 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 5: of these millions of people are supposed to come here 739 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 5: and suddenly they're noble heroes and victims of whatever place 740 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 5: they came from, instead of the fact that they are 741 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 5: opportunistic rule breakers who have no respect for the law, 742 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 5: and a certain portion of them are hardened criminals, right. 743 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 4: And you know, when we reward people for doing that, 744 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 4: it's a slap in the face to your family and 745 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 4: so many others who had to follow the law, go 746 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 4: through the process, wait in line, do it the right way. 747 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 4: And now these people are breaking laws getting rewarded for it. 748 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 4: And now when we're trying to enforce the laws and 749 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 4: remove them, you have attacks on ice. I mean, it's 750 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 4: got to be one of the most dangerous jobs in 751 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 4: America today to be an ice agent. 752 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 3: Dennis. 753 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 5: Sure, and not just your own danger of being a 754 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 5: so but danger of being sued, danger of being fired, 755 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 5: danger of getting caught in some kerfuffle. There would be 756 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 5: no kerfuffles, there would be no shootings if protesters stood 757 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,479 Speaker 5: down stage of parade, separate, don't go to where they're 758 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 5: in enforcement actions and get in their face. I mean, 759 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 5: this guy, we know the latest shooting, he was armed. 760 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 5: He had magazines or clips apparently, and he comes to 761 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 5: them in an aggressive way and they can see that 762 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 5: you're armed, and it's a tense situation. 763 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 3: That's no way to be well, Chris Rock, I. 764 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 5: Saw this on the X platform. Jack Chris Rock years 765 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 5: ago put out a funny film where he's a news 766 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 5: commentator standing there explaining, if you want to avoid getting 767 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 5: your butt kicked by police, don't do this, don't do this, 768 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 5: don't do this. Right I could have learned from that video. 769 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's a sad situation that he's dead, 770 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 4: but certainly ICE agents have to protect themselves and if 771 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 4: you're coming at them with a weapon, it's going to 772 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 4: be a bit result. Dennis Neil, thank you so much, 773 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 4: appreciate your insights. We have, of course been following the 774 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 4: situation in Minneapolis, will continue to do that. Right here, 775 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 4: on Real America's Voice. Check in with Real America's Voice 776 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 4: for the latest coverage of ongoing developments in Minneapolis, and 777 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 4: we'll see where this leads. But prayers for the people 778 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 4: there and certainly hope that order is restored, and prayers 779 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,439 Speaker 4: for the ICE agents that are dealing with a lot 780 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 4: of threats against them and their families. All right, we'll 781 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 4: encourage all of you to check us out during the 782 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 4: week on Ringside Politics, the radio show on WGSO at 783 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 4: WGSO dot com. I want to give a big thank 784 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 4: you to all of you for joining us on all 785 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 4: our different platforms, and our great team in Denver for 786 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 4: the fantastic work that they do for us all the time, 787 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 4: right here on Real America's Voice. All right, check out 788 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 4: carewer dot net for our poll and we'll see an 789 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 4: nex Saturday for another edition of ring syb Politics right 790 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,439 Speaker 4: here on Real America's Voice. 791 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 3: Have a great week, everyone, We'll see you later.