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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. That's how we started things off in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. So a ray drops of today's episode

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Speaker 1: of Reality.

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Speaker 2: With the King.

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Speaker 1: She is here, live and living color in person. As

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Speaker 1: you all know, I love this woman. I am a

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Speaker 1: huge fan of her, not only as a reality starra

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of her music, her voice. She knows

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Speaker 1: I love her album Honey is it serious? I see

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Speaker 1: you and I'm still hard give it up for the

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Speaker 1: Candace Billard Bassett.

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Speaker 3: Hello, good morning, Yah clapping, Yeah we can do a round?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, lah blah blah blauses. Yes, isn't clapping, but

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Speaker 2: the hands are the hands.

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Speaker 3: Are well, Yes, we'll clap now.

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Speaker 2: Ooh.

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Speaker 3: Jet gave me a little extra he did, and we

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Speaker 3: thank him.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so your son gave you a little cake?

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Speaker 3: A little yet, just a little bit?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Poundcake? A twinkie?

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Speaker 3: What's a twinkie? It's oh a twinkie. Oh no, I

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Speaker 3: would say a poundcake, a pound cake. Chris would say poundcake.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Is Chris, you know, enjoying it very much? He does

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Speaker 3: not pass behind without doing a little too little grab

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Speaker 3: Ooh it's a fun place. I'm enjoying the postpartum body.

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Speaker 3: Postpartum is ghetto. Postpartum body is five stars.

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Speaker 2: Why is postpartum ghetto?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's because you don't know what It's

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Speaker 3: like a mixed bag of nonsense and foolery and just

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Speaker 3: and hood nonsense. It's foolishness. I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: haven't told you this, but I've talked about it publicly.

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Speaker 3: Post jet. Like three days post jet, I experienced a

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Speaker 3: blood clot in my left ovary. Yes, these things, these

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Speaker 3: kill people. They take the people to the king, not

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Speaker 3: to but the other kids.

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Speaker 2: The king.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like women will like check out from what I had,

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Speaker 3: like my So we were we went to a postpartum

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Speaker 3: retreat and then we were there for like four days.

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Speaker 3: Went home. I began to feel high fever, excruciating pain

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Speaker 3: in my lower left abdomen, and I just I didn't

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Speaker 3: know what it was. And I wasn't like dialed in

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Speaker 3: really because I was focused on like, oh, the baby,

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Speaker 3: and I think I was just also just out of it.

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Speaker 3: I was having night sweats, which nobody told me about.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is fired because nobody told me about the night sweats,

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Speaker 3: like drenched in sweat. And my dad is a physician.

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Speaker 3: He was in Ecuador on vacation. He happened to call

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Speaker 3: to check in and I was like, yeah, I'm having

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Speaker 3: these pains, and I'm it was so bad. I could

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Speaker 3: couldn't even change my postpartum diaper. I couldn't even bend

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Speaker 3: Horrible. My dad was like, you need to go to

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Speaker 3: who is not He's not like medicine. He's very much

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Speaker 3: like let's triage, let's figure this out. And get you

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Speaker 3: So for my dad to say go to the hospital,

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god. He didn't say what

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Speaker 3: it was. And then I talked to my sister in law.

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Speaker 3: She tells me later, yeah, Tyler, my net Tyler's teacher

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Speaker 3: died from this. My friend Adrian's co worker died from this.

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Speaker 2: Having a blood ci on they're ovary, yes or just.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Blood clot, a postpartum.

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Speaker 1: Blood clot, a post Also women after giving birth, these

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Speaker 1: people died, yes, courteousy of the Pols.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So I had lost like a leader of blood.

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Speaker 3: You only have five. I lost a whole leader. And

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Speaker 2: So then.

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Speaker 3: They put Jet on my chest because I wanted to

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Speaker 3: do the it's called the Golden Hour. They put him

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Speaker 3: like hypoglycemic, like lightheaded, and just like I was going

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Speaker 3: give me fluids and that went away. But I feel

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Speaker 3: like that was kind of the beginning of it.

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Speaker 1: And how many months after giving birth did you have

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Speaker 1: these inscrutating pains and you have to take yourself to

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Speaker 3: Week, a week and a half, week and a half. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I gave birth on October third. We went to the

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Speaker 3: postpartum retreat. We were there for four days. We got

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Speaker 3: home on the fifth day. I started feeling like hot,

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Speaker 3: purple garbage. Yeah, it was horrible. It was horrible. And

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Speaker 3: send it to you in an email. The results like

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Speaker 3: on anti coagulants, blood thinners. For ten weeks. I had

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Speaker 3: to give myself subcutaneous shots in my abdomen every day

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Speaker 3: for ten weeks. And thank god, God knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: Thank god I had already done IVF shots because minister

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Speaker 3: how to do that. I was a pro adic because

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Speaker 3: Because it's like, oh, I did this like a hundred

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Speaker 3: times just to get the baby here, so cool, that's nothing.

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Speaker 3: And I had to do that every day for ten weeks.

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Speaker 3: And so then I'm like grappling with like my mortality,

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Speaker 3: like I just had a baby, and I would if

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Speaker 3: even know me. It was. It was like the wildest

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Speaker 2: Ghetto, no canvas. You almost die.

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Speaker 3: I could have died. Women die from what I had. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I and I and I had the best doctors.

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Speaker 3: after thirty five you're considered geriatric. So I was an

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Speaker 3: me jet his growth. So I was every week and

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Speaker 3: and I have. I'm healthy. I worked out, I was

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Speaker 1: So do they know how the blood clot even happened? No?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean there there was speculation that because part

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Speaker 3: of my placenta is supposed to detach naturally and part

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Speaker 3: and I really didn't. I never kind of went back

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm happy you brought this up because the mortality

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Speaker 1: rate for Black women who give birth, you know, we

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Speaker 1: know the statistics is not favorable, unfortunately, and that's why

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Speaker 1: when it comes to black women giving birth who went

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Speaker 1: twins or more, it's it's very scary in the room.

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Speaker 1: And I know lots of black women who this is

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Speaker 1: grateful number one that you're here. But I'm also grateful

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Speaker 1: that you allowed this audience to hear about your experience

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Speaker 1: so they can understand, you know, to check those things

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Speaker 1: out where there's a stroke, es, a blood clot. These

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Speaker 1: are things that aren't talked about enough. We know about

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Speaker 1: hobble up pressure all that, yeah, but blood cloths are

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Speaker 1: a real thing, and it's.

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Speaker 3: Just it's like, listen to your body. Because I had symptoms.

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Speaker 3: I had a high fever and I had excruciating pain.

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Speaker 3: didn't have a c section, you will have lower abdomen pain.

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Speaker 3: I had a very beautiful, normal vaginal birth. I labored beautifully.

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Speaker 3: had an amazing experience until until then everything else I

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Speaker 3: would do all over again. It was amazing. But it

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Speaker 3: really is just about listening to your body. Your body

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen. Thank God for that. Yes, thank God for you,

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Speaker 2: because lits seny. We need canvas in the basket around y'all.

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Speaker 3: Y'all, oh, we're not ready with you yet. We're a mess.

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Speaker 3: We mean we're a mess.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I haven't you know, this is our first time,

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Speaker 1: meaning face and phase which is crazy, which is wild.

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Speaker 2: Yes, rain jobs.

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Speaker 1: She is more gorgeous in person, and I mean that

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Speaker 1: the face is facing, the wig is wigging in a

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Speaker 1: good way, the outfit is offering. She is a your stunner.

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Speaker 1: You are beautiful, Carlos.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to flood.

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Speaker 2: Now you are.

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Speaker 1: I see why Chris is grabbing your ass, well not

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Speaker 1: the asses of others.

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Speaker 3: Listen, hello, listen, we are anti ass grabbed. This says

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Speaker 3: a ring on it. Okay, he's put in the work

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Speaker 3: to grab this ass.

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Speaker 2: How is Chris doing?

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Speaker 3: He's wonderful. He is work. So he was recently promoted

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Speaker 3: to like a like a regional area director at his

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Speaker 3: restaurant group. So now he's overseeing a bunch of restaurants,

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Speaker 3: which is a lot less work because he was restaurants

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Speaker 3: are as you may know, just grueling, strenuous, you are

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Speaker 3: always at work even when you're not at work. And

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Speaker 3: this position, I feel like he's finally kind of settled

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Speaker 3: in and not constantly ripping and running and cussing. And

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Speaker 3: because when we first met, I joke all the time

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Speaker 3: he kicked a door in and I was like, this

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Speaker 3: white man is crazy, Like this is. I didn't really

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Speaker 3: know him that well. We were working together, so he

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Speaker 3: was always stressed. It's a very high stress environment. This

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Speaker 3: time in his chapter in his career is where he

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Speaker 3: is supposed to be, and he's thriving there and he's

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Speaker 3: loved there. He'd been at this restaurant group before left

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Speaker 3: to open Myron Mixin's to he wanted to be an owner,

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Speaker 3: and then that closed in the pandemic and found his

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Speaker 3: way back to Titan Hospitality and he is he's thriving there.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: And I know because that's his passion food, food, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I know that that's something

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Speaker 1: he takes very seriously. He's on TikTok doing things.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And before we get into all of your success

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Speaker 3: We talked about it on my podcast Undomesticated.

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Speaker 3: And the dynamic between Simone and her children is parallel

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Speaker 3: And Simone has every right to say what she's gonna say,

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they're I mean my parents still I

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Speaker 3: This is what you can do, and then you can

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Speaker 3: Here here are the examples.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: Do your parents will give you money? Yeah? Is it

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Speaker 3: It's like like, hey, I I want to do a

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Speaker 3: give me a loan for that? Sure, here's a check.

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Speaker 3: And we're my sister and I run the business now,

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Speaker 3: Yes, all the utilities high and ghetto. Yes, well I

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Speaker 4: For the most part, you love your life, don't you.

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Speaker 3: We get up there and she's and she just pulled

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Speaker 1: they're a girl, I think a first born should be

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00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: a daughter because she will take care of you in

437
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: your old age.

438
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: Yes, and she'll make sure you're good.

439
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 3: Yep.

440
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to go record for the world to know.

441
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: If God bless me with a daughter, I want her

442
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: to be you go Corlos.

443
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: I do I want my daughter? No, everyone knows this.

444
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: I want my daughter to stand on business like my

445
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: father's Carlos fucking Kings, and that's what we're not gonna do.

446
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: And then I.

447
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: Want her to be smart, educated, gorgeous, poised, and I

448
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: want her to be like dad.

449
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, what baby me? My daughter?

450
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: Girl?

451
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: Yes, my daughter dad? Yes, okay, girl, let me tell

452
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: you what happened, yeah, my dad. And then I'll be like,

453
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: are you good?

454
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: I'm fine.

455
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 2: You want want to go to the mall? Yep, yep, yep. No,

456
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: that was my child. I don't care. She's fifty with

457
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: a husband.

458
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm still on my dad's phone plan. Okay, you're

459
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: my child, listen, and I'll never forget. When I was

460
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 3: getting married, he was like, so you know you want

461
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: to maybe get your own phone plan. I said, no,

462
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: why would I do that? Pray tell why? And he

463
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: was like, okay, and I'm still on his phone plan

464
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: because why for what reason would I ever not? I'm

465
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 3: his only daughter. Okay, I'm a daddy's girl. I will

466
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: be on his phone plan until Kingdom come, until there

467
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: is no more.

468
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: AT and T. Yeah, that's my daughter.

469
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: Okay, Yo, listen, I want to shift off to your career.

470
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: I as you know, I'm a huge fan of your music,

471
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: and you know that I play your songs and I

472
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: do my own karaoke and you're such a beautiful songstress.

473
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: You you have the gift of boys. You can really sing.

474
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: You're not that reality star who do want to hop

475
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: a one two one two to be relevant?

476
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: Like?

477
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: You take your artistry seriously. You have submitted your work

478
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: to the Grand Me, the Recording Academy. Yes, what can

479
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: we expect from you when it comes to your music?

480
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: Because I I'm a bassin hound yeah you know, yes,

481
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm a bassin house and honey, I put some on music.

482
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: Well, your wish is granted.

483
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: Literally.

484
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 3: So do you remember from like old Kardashians when Courtney

485
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: would be like literally, Kim, Yeah, so literally, Kim. I

486
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 3: have a new single dropping in like three weeks, three

487
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 3: or four weeks, three weeks, I think, yes, Like we

488
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 3: are literally like mixing and mastering my new single right now,

489
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 3: and I just shot the video over the weekend and

490
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: I just got the cover for the single and it's

491
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: so fired. It's so amazing, and I'm really proud of

492
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: this next iteration of music. It is. It's so good.

493
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 3: And I don't say that about anything I do, like

494
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: I don't toot my own horn, but I am just

495
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: so proud of this music. I recorded most of it

496
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: when I was pregnant, and I don't know if that

497
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 3: was like my emotions were in a different space, but

498
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: I was just like raw and like I'm saying exactly

499
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: what the fuck I want to say, and I don't

500
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: get like what you think, and it is it is

501
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: exactly what I want my artistry to be positioned as

502
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: at this time.

503
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: Is the R and B pop? Is this soulful R

504
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: and B?

505
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: It is it's R and B with a touch of

506
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: rock cool but also but it's soulful. But I love

507
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: I think in my past life, I was like a

508
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: rock star, like even in my shows, there's I forget

509
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: which song, I think it's do it where there's like

510
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: a little interlude, a little musical interlude, and I bring

511
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: out my guitarist, shout out to Jay Rojas and he

512
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: does like this, like guitar riff, and I'm on the floor,

513
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: like whipping my hair and like headbanging. Yes, I'm a

514
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: rock star, Okay, I'm I'm the long lost black female

515
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: Chili Pepper does. Okay. So I love the instrumentation of

516
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: rock music and how emotional it is and how chaotic

517
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 3: it can be. But my bass is R and B

518
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: because I'm that's who I am. I grew up. I

519
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: was raised by the R and B girlies and men

520
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: in of the nineties.

521
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: Tony Brackston, we saw the cover you did and you

522
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: killed it. Have you heard from her?

523
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: She?

524
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: Years ago? She gave me a nod somewhere. I can't

525
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: remember where, but she gave me a nod somewhere years ago.

526
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: I didn't hear from her on this occasion, but I'm

527
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 3: I'm very close to her sister, Tamar.

528
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my girlfriend.

529
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: I love, love, love Tamar.

530
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: Hi Ta, I love y'all. Call you tomorrow.

531
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I love her for, you know, just for who

532
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: she is, but she's also I love her because she

533
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: we are similarly I think misunderstood and she she has

534
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: a really big heart and I think people miss that

535
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: because they want to misunderstand her. But she's amazing and

536
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: I love her.

537
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: I love her too, and I cannot agree more. You

538
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: are doing Traders this season, and this is such the

539
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: show for you as you're sort of comeback yes to

540
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: unscripted television.

541
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: What can you tell us? And let's don't say much, honey.

542
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: Because I don't want to get I don't get no

543
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: phone calls, not to do I okay, Hi, Hey, y'all.

544
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: You on this show makes a lot of sense and

545
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: I literally am excited to see you. I listen my

546
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: spotty senses. Tell me, if you're not the winner, you're

547
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: going to go far because you are maniacal, a strategist,

548
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: a shade queen, and because you are a pageant girl.

549
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: Honey, you know.

550
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: How to appear sweet, but you also know how to

551
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: be very cunning.

552
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: Is that is that that I'll describe your season?

553
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: I'll take that. Yes, I will put an asterisk over

554
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: to the strategist because I find that I'm not that

555
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: great at strategy in my mind, as evidenced by the

556
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: the chaos and mayhem that you all saw on Housewives. Like,

557
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 3: I was never thinking ahead. I was always like in

558
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: the moment with a butter knife, so.

559
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: Listen, I say, go ahead.

560
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah that was the you know, I'm gonna

561
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: tell you something after about that, okay, because yes, yeah,

562
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: go ahead. Yeah. So no, I people had been started

563
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: like tagging me online and saying, oh, you should to

564
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: do this show, and I hadn't heard of it yet,

565
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: and I was like, what is Traders? I don't want

566
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: to do this because all I saw was like, oh,

567
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: they're outside running and they're sweating and there's bugs and

568
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: water and what I'm not this is no, I don't

569
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: I'm not outside. Is not my ministry unless I'm like

570
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: going from one building to the next. So what do

571
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: I look like with my wig or my sew I

572
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: had a sew in sweating like my scalp is sweating

573
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: in my sew in and I can't like wash properly

574
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 3: because I don't have no black hairstyle in Scotland. So

575
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: I was not really interested. But it kept like every

576
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: season from season one to season three. I just kept

577
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: getting pinged, and then the NBC finally came to me

578
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: and they were like, yeah, we want you to do this.

579
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: We think it'd be great for you. And I was like, eh, okay.

580
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: I like a challenge and I like to prove myself wrong.

581
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: And this was all of that, and so I left,

582
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: and I left my baby. My baby was eight months

583
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: at the time. And you are very much sequestered, and

584
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: you know, you don't have access to the outside world.

585
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: I will just kind of break the fourth wall and

586
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: just give I have to give flowers to Studio Lambert,

587
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: the production company, because they are just wonderful and we're

588
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 3: very good about letting me talk to my son and

589
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: letting me call home and talk make sure that he

590
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: was okay. But no, you're like in it, and you

591
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: are like all you have is like your notebook and

592
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: a pin when you're in your room, and the rest

593
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: of the time you're just out running around or like,

594
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: you know, sleuthing out who the traders are.

595
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: So you're on the show of Porsche Porsche. Yes, Yes,

596
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: how was that experience with her?

597
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: It was fun. It was so I didn't know who

598
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: was going to be there, and I had no idea,

599
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: it didn't have any speculation. So when I saw her,

600
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 3: I was excited. It's like, oh, a familiar face, a

601
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: black person, period, right, because I'm like, who black is

602
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: going to be here? I don't know anybody. And then

603
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 3: I was excited just to see Housewives and I had

604
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: never met Lisa Na and I was like, oh, a

605
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: familiar face that you know runs in the same front yard,

606
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: the Bravo front yard that I have run in. So

607
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: I was excited to see Housewives, but particularly one that

608
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: I knew, albeit you know, wrought with a bit of

609
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: tumult here and there, but I knew, we knew, I

610
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: knew her.

611
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Do you and Porsche get into a verbal

612
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: spat in the castle?

613
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: M h? I mean I can't really say, can I No,

614
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: I cannot be helping you out now.

615
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: I pretty much can see because you know, I know Portia,

616
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: I know you, And are you and Porsiae? Are we

617
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: going to be entertained?

618
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: Oh? Two of you without a doubt in the same room?

619
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: Correct?

620
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 2: Okay?

621
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, that I could say.

622
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: Us fans will not be disappointed when we see you

623
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: in portion in the same room.

624
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: No, okay, Okay.

625
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: You unfollowed her. I did, was that before Scotland? On?

626
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: After Scotland?

627
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 3: I think it was before. I think it was before.

628
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: Now you did follow her when you guys did Ultimate

629
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: Girls Trip?

630
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: I think we. Yes, we had been following each other

631
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: before Ultimate Girls Trip and then yeah, and then and

632
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: then we had our debates in Thailand and we weren't

633
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: really talking like that. But I didn't unfollow her. I'm

634
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: not an unfol like, that's not my my thing. Like

635
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: I can be pissed at you, you know, but I'm not.

636
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: I don't need to unfollow you unless I'm seeing you

637
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: a lot on my timeline. But I'm not thinking like,

638
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: oh I'm mad at this person, let me go find

639
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: them and unfollow them. So, no, we I had been

640
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: following her up until I.

641
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: Wasn't what made you hit the unfollow button?

642
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: Well, I discussed this also on my podcast Domesticated. I

643
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: saw a clip of her on Atlanta Housewives talking about

644
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: I was figure her name the new girl, No, the Angela, Yes,

645
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 3: talking about Charles Oakley. Yes, they were on a cash

646
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 3: trip and she was like, she better be careful before

647
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: I sleep with her husband. And I just saw the clip.

648
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: I was not watching the show. But I see clips.

649
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: I see clips of every I see clips of all

650
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 3: the shows. I see clips of Potomac, I see clips

651
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: of Atlanta, all the clips. And I'm a human who

652
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: has social media, so I'm looking at the clips and

653
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: I was like, what this is great? I just it's

654
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: as a married woman who is in the public eye

655
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 3: and already dealing with like hoes who want to throw

656
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: themselves at your man. Sometimes they're coworkers. It is, It

657
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: just makes me, It makes my grits. Do you need

658
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: a moment, I'll give you.

659
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 2: My rain drops.

660
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: Know. I sometimes have a can of oxygen because I

661
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: gag so much that I sometimes get out of breath.

662
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: Do we need to breathe?

663
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm good now, honey.

664
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna you know, stop drop and roll

665
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: o fire fire.

666
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a fire, honey on thirty fourth Street.

667
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: Okay, but no, it just as a marriage. And I

668
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: said this too, just the conviction of a wife is

669
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 3: different because you you're you're battling against so many things.

670
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: The devil comes to marriages in a lot of different ways.

671
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: It can come in the form of you know, raggedy

672
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 3: two dollar hos. Income in the form of why you

673
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: leave your draws on the floor income in the form

674
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: of you know you, we're just we are two ships

675
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 3: passing in the night because we're both working all the time.

676
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 3: There are a lot of challenge in a marriage and

677
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: as a married woman, much like now that I'm a mother,

678
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: I also like just view things differently and I approach

679
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: life differently. I just don't like to hear a woman,

680
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: especially when who has been married before, say something that

681
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: could be so detrimental to a marriage. And it just

682
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: it just like triggered me, and.

683
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: It triggered you because one of your former co workers, yes,

684
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: try to sleep with Chris or flirt with him.

685
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 3: Well, we saw what happened. I'm gonna leave it there.

686
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: We saw what happened, and we all know what happened

687
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: and what didn't happen, And it just it makes me protective,

688
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: and it makes me just more prickly to certain things,

689
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: and it changes my tolerance. And then also being a

690
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: woman of God, like there's a conviction of a Christian

691
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: wife and trying to be like a good wife who

692
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: is dutiful and prayerful over her her marriage and over

693
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: her family, and that is all always like in the

694
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: front and back in my mind, and so when I

695
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: saw it, it was just like, oh uh uh, this is

696
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: just I don't, I can't, I don't want to see this.

697
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: And I'm now, like I think, in my later thirties,

698
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm more so invested in curating what is in my

699
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 3: orbit and knowing that I have control over a lot

700
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: of what I choose to ingest, and I'm quick to

701
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: you know, do on Instagram. You can do like the

702
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: thing where it says like I don't like this, yes,

703
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: and I don't want to see this anymore, and you

704
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: know that can be anything like I don't want to

705
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: see I don't like watching black people getting beat up,

706
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: so I don't want to watch that. So whereas before

707
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: I would you know, just keep scrolling, you could do

708
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: something about it. I want this, I want to curate

709
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: my timeline, so this is not a part of my

710
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: viewing experience because it seeps into your psyche and I

711
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: don't want that in my space. This was the same thing.

712
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: I just didn't want to see any of it. I

713
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: didn't want to I didn't want to see her or

714
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: any footage or content that had to do with what

715
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: was said. And then I heard later that she apologized

716
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 3: for it or took accountability for it, and I was like, oh, great, perfect,

717
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: and I moved on. I didn't see a need to. Okay,

718
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: now let me go back and refollow. It was done

719
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: and it was really no, it wasn't deep for me.

720
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: It was just I don't like this. I'm gonna unfollow.

721
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: Do you guys talk about it in Scotland?

722
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we don't.

723
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't talk about other stuff.

724
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: Well, there's so much going on right there, like it is.

725
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: From the moment we got there, it was like, go

726
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 3: like you saw. I think they showed like a little trailer.

727
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: We pull up and it's fire, blow up in going

728
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 3: up in the sky. I said, now what is this? Okay?

729
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: On my wig? This is human hair, so I will

730
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: be okay. But I was just like, so many things

731
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: going on, so no, and then it just moves so

732
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: fast that there was not a moment for me to

733
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: discuss it.

734
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: Well, she's not dating a woman, that's right. Are you surprised?

735
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: No? No, I think that. I think one of the

736
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: beauties of Portia is that she is She's I don't

737
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: is she a water sign. She's very fluid, she's kind

738
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: of she's a cancer. Is cancer water? No, they're earth,

739
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think. I don't, don't quote me,

740
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: but she's right, Okay, I know, I'm fire, That's what

741
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

742
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: Her birthday okay is in June, but she's June twenty seconds.

743
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: Okay, she's a cancer.

744
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: Okay. So well, she's very She's always been very, just

745
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: fluid and just does what she wants, which I think

746
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: I admire about her. Anyone who I've always said to

747
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: even say something nice about Ashley for head Darby, She's

748
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: another one that just kind of goes with the flow

749
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: in a way that I don't I can't necessarily do. So, No,

750
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. Good for her.

751
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: Would you be surprised if Ashley tried to date your

752
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: son when he got over the age of eighteen.

753
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: Well, given the turn of events, no, I would not

754
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: be surprised. But just that is a brand of low down,

755
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: low budget, slew footed trailer park. Now sense that that's

756
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: now that is disgusting. I should unfollow do I don't

757
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: think I follow her. If I was following her, I

758
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: would unfollow her. That is gross.

759
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: Were you surprised that Ashley would sleep with Sharissa's son

760
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: who was a friend of hers, and yes, he's twenty seven,

761
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: she's thirty seven, and it happened two years ago allegedly,

762
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: so he was twenty five, she was thirty five. The

763
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: fans are not saying, well, you met him at fifteen

764
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: years old, you saw this guy grow up. Charis did

765
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: my podcast and she said that no friend of hers

766
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: would every day her son's and she felt that if

767
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: the rose were reversed and that a grown man saw

768
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: one of Giselle's daughters grow up and started dating them,

769
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: the whole world would be it ar.

770
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?

771
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 3: I do. I watched that whole interview. It was very good,

772
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 3: Thank you, and I haven't talked to Jerize, but I'm

773
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: proud of her for saying everything that she said, because

774
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: she's not ever really done that before.

775
00:43:53,680 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: What was the question, do you think that Ashley doing that?

776
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: Does it define her character? And do you think there's

777
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: a double standard because she's a woman who did it?

778
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: Do I think it defines her character? I think it

779
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: is confirmation of the character we have always known her

780
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: to have, to which I don't always fault her. I

781
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: don't condemn people for all of their evil, because everyone

782
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: has a story and everyone is who they are because

783
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: of where they have been and what they have been through.

784
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: And I think that much of Ashley's, many of her

785
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: choices are a result of where she has come from

786
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: and what she has been through. And you hear talk

787
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 3: about it, at least when I was there, she talked

788
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: about it a lot, how she came from humble beginnings

789
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: and her they didn't have a lot of mone and

790
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: her parents were abusing substances. And I think that informed

791
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: why she felt like she had to go run up

792
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: behind Gollum, because why would you who chooses? Who makes

793
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: this choice? You know, there is money strewn about from

794
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: this corner of the earth to that one, and.

795
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: This was your choice.

796
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 3: This was a woman in duress. I just and I'm

797
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: you know, I'm glad that she has However it happened,

798
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: you know, mate taken her leave and moved on from that.

799
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: But I think that she is a woman who is

800
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: haunted by her environment, and she is a product of

801
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: her environment, and it makes her do foul, low budget

802
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: things like justify allegedly sleeping with your friend's son, like

803
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 3: my friend's children, those are my nieces and nephews. Now

804
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: let's say, you know, God forbid I get to be

805
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: up to sixty something, and you know, the aliens come

806
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: and get Chris, and I'm single and my best friend's

807
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: son is of age. What do you mean that is

808
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: a child? We don't. I would never like who We

809
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: are not covorting with children, even if they are grown.

810
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 3: I remember you as a child. How do you then

811
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: lay allegedly with this person that you can recall memories

812
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 3: of them being a child. It's the only explanation. Is

813
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: something something is a miss up here and it is

814
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: a result of where you have been. We need to

815
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 3: call it. Where's the therapist? Where is doctor whomever?

816
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: Not?

817
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: The life needed to be fixed. Were you surprised that?

818
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: Robin Dixon said on her podcast she has with Gazell

819
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: recently Shady. She said that although she thought what Ashley

820
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: did was tasteless, you know, they're both grown and she

821
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: doesn't see a problem with it that one of her

822
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: sons got older to be that age and two consenting

823
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: adults did that she wouldn't be upset with the act

824
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: of it. She thought it was tasteless that Ashley did

825
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: not tell series.

826
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 3: Coming from Robin that doesn't surprise me, just because Robin

827
00:47:53,239 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: is very lax, a daisical, like in life, like everything

828
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: is like, oh whatever, I'll get to it, so, you know.

829
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: And I think Robin is a wonderful mother, Like I

830
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: don't fuck with her, but I think that she she's

831
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: she's a great she's a great mom. Like I've seen

832
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: her mother. She's a great mom, and she loves her sons.

833
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: I also think that her her if that's her rational,

834
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: I feel like that comes from a place of the

835
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 3: privilege of having only sons, right when you have daughters. Unfortunately,

836
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: we live still in a patriarchal society, and you have

837
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: to view the world through the lens of a woman

838
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: and differently than you view the world through the lens

839
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: of a man. And I don't have daughters, but I

840
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: will have a daughter, and I have all I think

841
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: I was. I wanted a girl first, and was I

842
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: had a gender disappointment that they all talk about and

843
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: had to kind of come to terms with it. And

844
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: now I couldn't see my life without Jet, and I'm

845
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 3: obsessed with him and he was supposed to be first.

846
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 3: I get it now, But what I wanted was different

847
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: from what God wanted, and I had to kind of

848
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: come to terms with that. But in always wanting a

849
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 3: girl first, I have, I think, always prepared to be

850
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: a girl mom in the way that I presented myself,

851
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: the way that I moved about the world, the way

852
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 3: that I protected her from the world, And I'm prepared

853
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 3: for that. And you, if Robin had daughters, I would

854
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: venture to say that she might have more of a

855
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 3: problem with it because it is seen as more predatory

856
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: in the reverse.

857
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: You said on your podcast Undomesticated that you don't see

858
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: yourself going back to the Real Housewives of Atomac, and

859
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk to you about

860
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: that because I don't like that. Okay, And this is

861
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: me talking to you. It's your big brother and everybody, okay,

862
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: but it's different with me. Okay, mom, Okay, hey, let

863
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: me let me, let me let me take over the

864
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm your I'm your gay godfather, hoodie.

865
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: Okay.

866
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: I don't like it, and I don't want you to

867
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: speak that into existence, and I want you to hear

868
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: me out.

869
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.

870
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Your first appearance on my podcast a couple of years ago,

871
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: you said something that stayed with me. You talked about

872
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: how you manifested that job, how you manifested the job

873
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: of being a real housewife for Potomac, and how you

874
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: pray to God. You talked about how you got on

875
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: your knees and you pray to God. And I don't

876
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: play about prayer either. And God does not play about

877
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: his children bowing down to him in need, because and

878
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: I want you to. I want you to be still

879
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: and receive what I'm saying.

880
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: Okay.

881
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: God does not play about blessing his children when they

882
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: get down on his when they get down on their

883
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: knees and they ask him asking prayer, asking, you shall receive, right,

884
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: And when he doesn't give it to you, it is

885
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: because he got something better for him, or it's not

886
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: the right time.

887
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: God gave you that job.

888
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: Yes he did. Yes, he did.

889
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: No one else did, none of the girls, did the

890
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: production company, the network. God gave you that job, okay.

891
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 1: Because when God saw his child bowed down to him

892
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: and requested that, God smiled at you and said.

893
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: Oh Lord, I'm going to need a tiss in.

894
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: A moment, Sandra.

895
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 3: No, but hear me out a box on the table.

896
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: God smiled at you. Yes, and he and and and psal,

897
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm thirty seven.

898
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: Oh, he gave you the desires of your heart. And

899
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: when I look at you, Okay, you did that show

900
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: because you knew you were appointed to do it. Okay,

901
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: you did that show because you were appointed to do

902
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: it there and you did that show out of sheer obedience.

903
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: And what I'm saying to you is this, it did

904
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: not come in the package that you thought.

905
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: It was going to come in.

906
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, your prayers came to life, but it did not

907
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: come in the package that you requested, and it left

908
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: you with self doubt. It left you with disappointment. It

909
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: left you with hurt, and it left you with pain

910
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: because you signed on to do something and it looked

911
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: nothing like you thought it would.

912
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: And what you are doing now.

913
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: As you say these things, you're protecting yourself from hurt again.

914
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't believe you when you say you don't want

915
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: to go back, because you do, but hear me out,

916
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. And the reason why I don't

917
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: believe you respectfully is because you step into that show.

918
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 2: And you gave it your all. Oh my god, you

919
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: gave it your all.

920
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: And I remember watching a scene on your last season

921
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: and you sat there at a table, and I remember

922
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: you were dead in the eyes because for you, you

923
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: looked around and it was no longer reflective of the

924
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: vision you had, huh. And you questioned your purpose on

925
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: that show, and you questioned your place on that show.

926
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: And I want the world to know you and I

927
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: have never talked about this, no, okay. And what I'm

928
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: saying to you is this time heals all wounds, okay.

929
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: And the last thing I want for you, I don't

930
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: want your pain.

931
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 2: To come in between your purpose pastor King, okay.

932
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: And what you have to figure out for yourself. And

933
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm willing to hold your hand in conversing with you.

934
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: All the girls call me, I give all the girls

935
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: of Ice, and all the girls are winning, right.

936
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: I know?

937
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: Okay. I want you.

938
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: To not have any ego in this because my definition

939
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: of ego I learned this when I was at a

940
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: gospel of radio station, hid because I'm seventeen years old,

941
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm gay Carlos King of the Trent, Michigan, honey, and

942
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm an intern at the gospel radio station.

943
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: Because I took a leap hear and I you know,

944
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: you know't listen.

945
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't ready child, Look where you are well.

946
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: Thank you. God is good all the time, on the time.

947
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: God is good.

948
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: Yes, So a person who was being interviewed, he said, ego.

949
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: The ego stands for erasing God out. He said, it's

950
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: for erasing God out. And I don't want your ego

951
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: to get the best of you because you you were

952
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: raised on legacy. You were raised on hard work, and

953
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: you were raised on setting up the family crest and

954
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: you have a mouth to feed.

955
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: And what we're not going to do.

956
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: Is get on Beyonce's Internet and Carrie Hillson's five G network.

957
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: Hey Carrie, I love her more and speak things into

958
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: to the world that we don't want to happen. I

959
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: think you've been hurt. I think you've been beaten. I

960
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: think you've been And when I say bild mean the physical,

961
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean just like this.

962
00:56:59,160 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 2: Shit is tough.

963
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: And that's why I said I don't care what anyone

964
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: has to say. I'm the guy who understands everything right.

965
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: And I know many girls. I know many girls who

966
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: had to step away for a moment in time to

967
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: figure things out. And I'm not saying that the grass

968
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: isn't always greener, right, because the grass is greener based

969
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: on the seeds you plant in the ground. Okay, but

970
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: what I am saying to you, baby, you came on

971
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: that motherfucker and changed the temperature of that bitch.

972
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: You did. You did?

973
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: We marvel at that, and I'm happy that you stepped

974
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: away because the last thing that I believe God wanted

975
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: for you is to be distracted by the fetus inside

976
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: of you. And there was no way you can have both.

977
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: I unpopular opinion. I don't believe you can have it

978
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: all at once.

979
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 3: I agree you can't have.

980
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 2: All at once.

981
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: So God knew I have to remove you from the

982
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: situation in order for you to be in the in

983
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: the best mind space, mind, body and soul to give

984
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: birth to another human being. And now that you are

985
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: snashed to the gods in the heavens, honey, and now

986
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: that you have that experience, now that you're on trade

987
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: touris honey, which I.

988
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: Considered to be the pregame to getting you know, on

989
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: back on Housewives.

990
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: Oh God Jesus, I want you when you leave here today,

991
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: I want you to get on your knees and I

992
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: want you to have a heartfelt talk to God. No

993
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: one's listening. You don't have to impress your your listeners,

994
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: your fans, the world, these girls, anybody involved. I want

995
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: you and God to have a real conversation, and based

996
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: on that, I want you your actions and your behavior

997
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: and your mindset to follow what God tells you do.

998
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 3: We have a collection play well, No, that's just you

999
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: know this is oh my god.

1000
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: You were hurt. Yes, yes, because you were.

1001
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: You you were giving it everything, and you didn't realize

1002
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: these are my friends and these are alliances, and and

1003
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: I really thought we were friends.

1004
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 3: That's yes, that's a that's part of it. That is

1005
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 3: a significant part of it. I will say this. I

1006
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: remember I want I don't remember what season it was, seven,

1007
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: six seven, I think six seven. I think it was

1008
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: seven when whenever I was going through my first round

1009
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 3: of IVF and you have it's very like tedious time.

1010
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: You have to be giving yourself injections. You're going into

1011
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: the doctor every morning so that they can look at

1012
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 3: your ovaries and look at your follicles in your ovaries

1013
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: and count how many follicles you have and how they're growing,

1014
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 3: and based on how they're growing per day, they will

1015
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: increase or decrease your medication. So I'm like, I am

1016
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: like on edge and having to be like very on

1017
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 3: top of everything, and it's also very emotional and very spiritual,

1018
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: and there was so much negativity going on. I believe

1019
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 3: that season that I my first egg retrieval failed and

1020
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: I know that the stress of the show was why

1021
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: it failed, because I wear all of my stress in

1022
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 3: my gut. It all whenever I am dealing with any

1023
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: type of negative dark energy stress, it sits in my stomach.

1024
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 3: And there is not a play. You can't have life

1025
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 3: growing and also be dealing with dark energy at the

1026
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: same time. I just don't think that it works. And

1027
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 3: I vowed, I said, I don't think I've ever said this.

1028
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 3: I vowed to myself, if Lord, if I can get

1029
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 3: pregnant again, or if I can get pregnant, because that

1030
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: was just me getting retrieving eggs, but if I can

1031
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: get pregnant, I promise I will do everything in my

1032
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 3: power to create a space to bring forth this child.

1033
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 3: I will sacrifice whatever. And and I I knew, I

1034
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 3: knew leaving the not leaving. I knew halfway through that reunion,

1035
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 3: that last reunion, that and I was pregnant at that time.

1036
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 3: I was actually I had this. I snuck into the

1037
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 3: bathroom to give myself my shot, because after you get

1038
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 3: pregnant via IVF, you have to continue your progesterone and

1039
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 3: oil shots for at whatever time I was mine was

1040
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: ten weeks. I had to do shots for ten weeks

1041
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 3: after they implanted the embryo.

1042
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: And.

1043
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: I had to sneak to the bathroom and do my injection.

1044
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 3: And I'm you know, trying to you know, stay focused

1045
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 3: and stay in the game of the reunion, which is

1046
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 3: like our super Bowl for the season, and also make

1047
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 3: sure that I'm not forgetting. I have to take care

1048
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 3: of this too. And then I remember our team of producers.

1049
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 3: They would come into everybody's room and just check in

1050
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 3: and say, how is everybody doing. And we were just

1051
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 3: casually talking about motherhood and where I was in my

1052
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 3: journey because we had been talking for since I started

1053
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: the show, really about like me starting a family, Like

1054
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 3: you saw me grow up on the show. I went

1055
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: from being you know, a single woman to getting married

1056
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: and moving out of a house my mom helped me

1057
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 3: buy and now starting this journey of wanting to become

1058
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 3: a mother. And we were talking about that, and I'm

1059
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: pregnant at the time, and they're asking me like, well,

1060
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: do you think that you'll be ready? And I was

1061
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 3: like no, because I was terrified two share something so

1062
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: sacred and so special and so something that was just

1063
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 3: mine and my husband's and and it results in something

1064
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: tragic and and so I I I lied, I didn't

1065
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 3: I said, I didn't lie. I omitted. And you know,

1066
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 3: it is it's impossible for me to not think about

1067
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: or address, you know, in prayer with family and friends,

1068
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 3: what I would like to do as far as the show,

1069
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: I can't walk down the street and people are like,

1070
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: and it's it's it is. It's a wonderful feeling to

1071
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 3: know that you're loved in that way and missed, but

1072
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 3: it is scary, and it is you know, it makes

1073
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 3: me emotional because I do recall the what just felt

1074
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 3: like beating your head against the wall with people who

1075
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 3: are dedicated to misunderstanding me and not wanting to be

1076
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: in that space while trying to bring life into the world.

1077
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 3: And I, you know, I tip my hat to women

1078
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 3: who are able to do it, and you know, more

1079
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: power to you. I that that just wasn't what I

1080
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 3: wasn't willing to take the risk, and I you know

1081
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 3: I've I have never said never. I have just said

1082
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 3: it's not a priority, and it's not. It's not what

1083
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: I see for myself right now. I don't I don't

1084
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: ever want to close any doors. I'm just cautious, cautiously optimistic,

1085
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: if you will, about the doors that I do want

1086
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: to open or reopen and what that would look like

1087
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: for me and you know, all parties involved, because there

1088
01:06:50,440 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: there are requirements for healing and reconciliation that that would

1089
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 3: need to be in place that are not on the

1090
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 3: table because people are given free reign to run amok

1091
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 3: in the castle and that's okay. I will sit over

1092
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 3: here and do what I'm doing with my husband and

1093
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 3: my baby.

1094
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1095
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: No, And I received that, And and what I can

1096
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: say to you, I think there's a shift that's happening.

1097
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: It's not grandular, right, Excuse me, it's not.

1098
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: It's not grandular by any means, right, But I see

1099
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: a shift happening because you know, when you look at

1100
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: someone like Stacy Rush, who came in and authentically herself

1101
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: and who didn't allow herself to be And when I

1102
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: say this word, I meant in terms of, like, you know,

1103
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: the the process of joining something new and you're just like,

1104
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: what was going on?

1105
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: She allowed her to be mishandled by people.

1106
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: She was like, maybe this is it and my breastings

1107
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: have me a breath, men like which I want to do.

1108
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: And then it's sort of like, oh, well that's different.

1109
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: And I think I think the.

1110
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: I'll say this because whatever I was, I'm gonna say it.

1111
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: I strongly believe the positive reception of Stacy Rush has

1112
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: surprised people. I think it has allowed people to view

1113
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: things differently mm hm.

1114
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: And I think and I think.

1115
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: The warm Grandio's reception of the audience has allowed a

1116
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: lot of people to be like, oh, there's a new

1117
01:08:54,120 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: temperature that needs to be dialed back right and getting

1118
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: back to getting back to the basics.

1119
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 2: And I'll leave it at that.

1120
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, I look, you know for

1121
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: a fact that I have been trying to talk to

1122
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: you face to face for a couple of years, and

1123
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: you and I are both, you know, spiritual people. This

1124
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: happening at this time in our lives is destiny because

1125
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: it was supposed to happen this time because on some

1126
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: real stuff. I didn't feel this way three years ago,

1127
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: two years ago, I didn't feel this way last year, right,

1128
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:43,480
Speaker 1: I felt this way recently, and everything that I'm describing

1129
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: obviously has happened in the past couple of months.

1130
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 2: So that's why A as a.

1131
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 1: Obedient child of the Lord, I would be remiss not

1132
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: to share with you what I feel like he's putting

1133
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: in my heart and my spirit to regurgitate to you.

1134
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: And I do mean it when I say, look, have

1135
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: a conversation with him, because it's you.

1136
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 2: But baby, I think, baby, I think uh uh, A

1137
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: tide has turned. I strongly believe that.

1138
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: I think the Charis interview highlighted that people saying like, well,

1139
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: damn Carlson.

1140
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 2: I like Cherise now. I mean I kind of.

1141
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: Want her back on the show. Maybe not full time,

1142
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: but hey, can she be a friend? And so I

1143
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: do think I think people want to get back to

1144
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: the basics. I think people want real reality again. I

1145
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: think people are over like, okay, girl, I was shady,

1146
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: or we're gonna hate the new girl. I think all

1147
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: of that is sort of like there. I think people

1148
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: are over it, and I think people want real conversation. Yeah,

1149
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: And I think people want real accountability and the willingness

1150
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: for two parties to come to the table saying let's

1151
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: see that.

1152
01:10:58,840 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: You know, listen, we.

1153
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 3: Come to the table, let's see that because there is

1154
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 3: a palpable and genuine want or desire between those people,

1155
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 3: not because it appears that they're being forced, right so

1156
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,879
Speaker 3: to remain gainfully employed.

1157
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: Yes, but but I'm about to get you some more.

1158
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: Everybody in corporate America when they have these teams in

1159
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: order to present the biggest presentation so that everybody can

1160
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: get that cute bonus at the end of the year.

1161
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: As long as we're all here to be a great team.

1162
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't have the vacation with you.

1163
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: Guys, you know during the holidays, but when we're at work,

1164
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: let's all come together and be real and do the

1165
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: best thing for the sake of the show.

1166
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 2: Listen.

1167
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: I also don't subscribe to everybody, of course, I want

1168
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: this more than then then often by mosto realistic.

1169
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: Listen.

1170
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: We may not talk on the phone, yeah, you know,

1171
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: off season, but if I run into you at Whole Foods, yes,

1172
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm able to stand in out twelve and converse for

1173
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Yes, how so, and so all right, well,

1174
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: look I'll see you. We don't have the out to

1175
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: dinner if that's not real. But what I don't want is, well,

1176
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: we have to be buddy, buddy. I think now what

1177
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: we're realizing is as long as we can be respectful,

1178
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: do our job, yes.

1179
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: Not go down that rabbit hole of.

1180
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 1: Non Okay, then I'm all. I'm here for it and

1181
01:12:56,040 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: I want that for you. And I listen, call me crazy,

1182
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: but I see that happening. I see it happening.

1183
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: I really do, I really do, I really do? I

1184
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,520
Speaker 2: really really.

1185
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 3: Do I you are I can't Carlos.

1186
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: Please okay, bye bye bye, Okay, so listen. Are Thomas

1187
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 2: almost up?

1188
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 4: You know?

1189
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 1: Look okay, I'm almost more question obviously you and Wendy

1190
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: O Cphoe. You know, as it appeared on the show again,

1191
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening now because I'm spoken appear

1192
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: to be closed.

1193
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: You know what she's going through in her situation?

1194
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:49,520
Speaker 1: Where do things stand between you and doctor Wendy?

1195
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: As far as I know the things stand upright. I

1196
01:13:54,840 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 3: haven't spoken to her since right when the news aired

1197
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: dropped and I I, well, I had to. I felt

1198
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 3: like I had to reach out to her immediately because

1199
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 3: the way that I found out about the news was

1200
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: on the news. I was doing a promo for a

1201
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 3: stage play that I was doing, and five minutes before

1202
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 3: I went on, they came to me like, hey, we

1203
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 3: have some breaking news. We want you to come in on.

1204
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, sure, I'm thinking it was like, oh,

1205
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 3: you know President Trump, fill out, Okay, let's talk about that.

1206
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 3: But it was this, and I was like, I like

1207
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 3: spiraled because like, because what? And so I felt like

1208
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 3: I had to reach out to her immediately and just say, hey,

1209
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 3: I don't want you to think I like ran down

1210
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 3: to Fox five to talk about you, like, this is

1211
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 3: how this happened, and this is what I said, and

1212
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry this is happening, and and you know,

1213
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 3: she she responded. It took her a few days, naturally

1214
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 3: to respond, and she was grateful for my well wishes.

1215
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 3: And I think I may have spoken to her maybe

1216
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 3: one other time after that, but I haven't really spoken

1217
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 3: to her outside of that, outside of you know, liking

1218
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 3: her photos on Instagram. But I'm also just aware of

1219
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 3: how heavy everything is that's going on, and I'm not

1220
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 3: I don't expect to, you know, talk to her every day,

1221
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: but I do. I think about her all the time

1222
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 3: and I think about the situation all the time, and

1223
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 3: I like run through the OMG of it all, and

1224
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 3: I hope, I pray that it, you know, will will

1225
01:15:58,439 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: work in their favor.

1226
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 2: I agree, and I and I and I do too.

1227
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm doing this new thing this year while

1228
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm asking all of my reality girlies.

1229
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 2: This my final question. Okay, okay, you're ready for this.

1230
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 3: Let me give you some legs.

1231
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 2: Okay, range, Josh, you're ready for this.

1232
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 3: Yes?

1233
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: Who is Candice Diller Bassetts mount Rushmore of reality stars?

1234
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, this is fairly easy.

1235
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: For me.

1236
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:38,480
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay. Number one for me will always be Ninny Leaks,

1237
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 3: you know, for obvious reasons. We're also next door neighbors

1238
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 3: in Sagittarian. Yeah, thirteenth. I'm the fourteenth. So I feel

1239
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 3: like I've always just kind of like understood her for

1240
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 3: that reason. Tiffany New York Collard similarly, she just she

1241
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 3: was kind of the blueprint of for reality television for

1242
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 3: so many and she's hilarious. I've never met her though,

1243
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 3: but she's hilarious through the TV.

1244
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 2: I work with her. The sweetest thing in the world.

1245
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 2: I believe professional on top.

1246
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: I believe it. Yes, Okay, how is four for? Okay?

1247
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 3: I always I always like blank on who a third

1248
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 3: one would be? Always a good third. I need a minute.

1249
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 3: I don't know a third reality because the problem is,

1250
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm watching Bluie, I'm watching Miss Rachel. I'm

1251
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 3: not even sure what is WI who is on?

1252
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:02,600
Speaker 1: They have The Real World, The Kardashians, basketba Loving, hir Pop, Baddies,

1253
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: Bad Girls.

1254
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,839
Speaker 2: Club, The Apprentice.

1255
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 3: Oh you know I could go with because my mott

1256
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 3: mush war is black women. Don't you could fight me

1257
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 3: on it? Jackie Christie, that is a looney tune fit

1258
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 3: for TV in the best way. I just love she

1259
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 3: is just just deliciously crazy.

1260
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 2: I love her, love Jackie.

1261
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: I love that her and her husband do the thing

1262
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 3: where they get married every year. I recently saw the

1263
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 3: stuff about her and her daughter getting busy, getting giggy

1264
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: witted on TV. I can relate. We've never fought on TV,

1265
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 3: but I can relate to the the emotion because I

1266
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 3: saw the clip and I get it. I also know

1267
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 3: that she had some stuff with her daughter right where

1268
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 3: she there was like some stuff about color somebody being

1269
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 3: one of the daughters alleging.

1270
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: Yes, colorism.

1271
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that was a ouch for me. But I

1272
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 3: would still put her up there because part of being

1273
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: I think iconic in this space is it's not always

1274
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 3: pink and soft. Sometimes it's like jacket and ugly. And

1275
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 3: I don't know how she responded to it, but I

1276
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 3: would still put her up there and me, and you

1277
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 3: know what, there was a time. There was a time

1278
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 3: where I would not have put me up there. I

1279
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 3: think I've answered this question and I didn't say me.

1280
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 3: It's twenty twenty six. I'm almost forty flucked that shit.

1281
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 3: I am mount Rushmore. Okay, period period, come back to.

1282
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 1: That show and we claim your spot.

1283
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 2: Listen, we'll pop our ship twenty twenty sixth I bought that.

1284
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: Listen all of the terror cars that I'm saying on TikTok.

1285
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: They said about the Lee bro SARTI, they said, leon

1286
01:19:58,400 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 1: like fuck that it is.

1287
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm telling you funk all this shit. I'm a real

1288
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 2: hood right, pop your ship?

1289
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, So we got Nannie Leek's, Tiffany Pollard, Jackie Christy,

1290
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: and Candace Diller Bassett mount Rushmore and listen.

1291
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: You may see her on your screen soon.

1292
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: However, she is on this season of trade turns, and

1293
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: I am predicting that my good sister is going to

1294
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: go far and possibly even win. So make sure y'all

1295
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: watch The Traders every Thursday on p COG.

1296
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 2: I love you, I love you more.

1297
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 3: This was wonderful, niece post love you.

1298
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: I love you so much. I want the best.

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Speaker 2: I really do, Pastor King, I really did. I've made

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Speaker 2: every single word. That's a wrap.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

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Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.

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Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at

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Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore