WEBVTT - Florida Set To Execute “The Hog Trail Killer” Tonight  

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Thursday, September 10th. The state of Florida at

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<v Speaker 2>it again tonight. They are scheduled to execute the 15th

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<v Speaker 2>inmate of the year. He is a convicted killer. However,

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<v Speaker 2>many people believe he's actually a serial killer. And with that,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. This

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the more fascinating death row cases we

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<v Speaker 2>have covered. He's convicted for one crime. Robes, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he might have as many as 12 to 15 bodies

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<v Speaker 2>on his resume, if you will.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think they have at least 13, but maybe more.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you start to read about the details of

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<v Speaker 3>these murders, they're all in the exact same fashion, form

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<v Speaker 3>and fashion. They have the hallmarks of one killer, and yes,

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<v Speaker 3>a serial killer. This is a frightening case. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was just thinking, look, he's going to be put to

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<v Speaker 3>death for one murder, but I was just thinking about

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<v Speaker 3>all the other victims, all the other family members of

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<v Speaker 3>those victims. That's a bunch. That's a tough pill to

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<v Speaker 3>swallow to know that with his death, you'll never actually

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<v Speaker 3>get closure in a way because you'll never actually, you

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<v Speaker 3>never had that formal justice served in the sense that

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't have to admit. He wasn't actually held accountable

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<v Speaker 3>for for maybe a dozen plus more deaths.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and nobody has been in those dozen plus deaths.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're talking all men in these deaths. And Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't familiar with the story, the Fort Myers Eight

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<v Speaker 2>that we'll get into. This is incredible. Let's start with,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, Robes first and foremost. I said Florida is

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<v Speaker 2>at it again. Robes, they're up to 15 today. 19

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<v Speaker 2>was their record that they set last year. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>look at the list, I can confirm, but at least

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<v Speaker 2>one more is on the books coming up pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're going to be up to 16.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they going to blow through the I mean, DeSantis

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<v Speaker 2>is leaving office this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I would, if I had to wager, I would

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<v Speaker 3>say he's absolutely going to beat last year's record.

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<v Speaker 1>No question.

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<v Speaker 3>No question. They've been executing several a month. Some cases

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<v Speaker 3>this summer, they had three in one day, or two

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<v Speaker 3>in one day. Two in one day in the state

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<v Speaker 3>of Florida. There were three in one day, but those

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<v Speaker 3>are multiple states. But Florida has just been efficient. I

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<v Speaker 3>would say. And it's one of those cases where, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't anticipate how many more there will be because

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<v Speaker 3>he's been signing them as they come up on his desk.

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<v Speaker 3>Unclear how he's determining which cases- To push forward. But

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<v Speaker 3>this one, this is a 30-year-old murder. And so it

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<v Speaker 3>does appear he has been going, when I say he, DeSantis,

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<v Speaker 3>has been going out and clearing out some of these

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<v Speaker 3>older cases where you have inmates on death row for 30, 40,

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<v Speaker 3>even 50 years. He had a.

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<v Speaker 1>50-year in there, didn't he? Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a very recent one, was it not?

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<v Speaker 2>But this guy we're talking about this time is Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>Owen Conahan Jr., convicted for a 1996 killing. He was convicted, though,

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<v Speaker 2>in 1999. We'll explain why. It took a little time

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<v Speaker 2>to track him down. This is going to happen, scheduled

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<v Speaker 2>for 6 o'clock tonight at the state prison in Stark, Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>this evening. Now, Robes, we say this might be a

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<v Speaker 2>possible serial killer, but he was convicted. The crime in

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<v Speaker 2>particular was in 1996.

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<v Speaker 1>And, Robes, these are... Okay, this is one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the crime he was convicted of, but they

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<v Speaker 2>are saying possibly he did this to a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>other folks.

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<v Speaker 1>But the way the.

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<v Speaker 2>Story goes, he lured a man into the woods with

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<v Speaker 2>the promise of paying him money to pose for nude pics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he wanted bondage pics. So the victim was like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, you give me $ 150, $ 200. I'll let you

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<v Speaker 3>tie me up and take pictures of me. But here's

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<v Speaker 3>the deal. Once you're nude and tied to a tree.

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<v Speaker 3>He could do whatever he wanted. And that's what it

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<v Speaker 3>appears he did.

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<v Speaker 2>And they found this man, his body the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>He had been raped, strangled, and his genitals were cut off.

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<v Speaker 2>Those details, Robes, are pretty specific. And that's a reason

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<v Speaker 2>we just shared that detail. The victim here was a

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<v Speaker 2>21-year-old man, Richard Allen Montgomery. Now, Robes, that was in 1996, right? 1996. However,

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<v Speaker 2>there's another case that they think helped solve this one

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<v Speaker 2>that happened two years prior.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>In 1994.

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<v Speaker 3>And the victim was Stanley Burden, and he described... and

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<v Speaker 3>nearly identical assault. He said he was assaulted. He was strangled.

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<v Speaker 3>He was tied to a tree because yes, he too

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<v Speaker 3>had agreed to pose for nude pictures for a specified

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<v Speaker 3>amount of money. And he said that this man, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Owen Conahan Jr. tried to strangle him for 30

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<v Speaker 3>minutes and finally just gave up and left him for dead.

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<v Speaker 3>But he managed to escape, tell his story. And when

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<v Speaker 3>he was on the witness stand, he actually still had

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<v Speaker 3>marks on his neck from the strangulation. And he identified Conahan.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is how they eventually caught him.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to think, Robes, that was in 94.

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<v Speaker 2>And police started to piece all these things together.

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<v Speaker 1>But another one was in 1995.

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<v Speaker 2>This one was scary as hell. This guy's name was

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<v Speaker 2>David Payton. He got away as well, but he said

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<v Speaker 2>a man had picked him up, a man believed to

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<v Speaker 2>be Conahan, picked him up. They were driving to a

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<v Speaker 2>location in the woods. Same thing, paying money to take pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>They had car trouble, got stuck. They had to get out.

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<v Speaker 2>He was getting help from somebody else who came to

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<v Speaker 2>push the vehicle. So the victim, David Payton, was in

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<v Speaker 2>the driver's seat while the two men, Conahan and the stranger...

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<v Speaker 2>were pushing the vehicle out. He said he looked in

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<v Speaker 2>the back seat. He saw tarp, rope, all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Scared the hell out of him.

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<v Speaker 3>As it should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Took off in the car. Just took off. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of here. The car ends up being

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<v Speaker 2>reported stolen by Conahan. And so when this guy, David Payton,

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<v Speaker 2>saw all the stories happening later, he said, holy shit,

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds exactly like what, and called it in. Ropes. Boom. Boom.

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<v Speaker 2>And so to think he's going to death row for

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<v Speaker 2>a crime that was in 96, but as early as 94, 95.

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<v Speaker 2>So the area where this victim was found, Richard Allen Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 2>they in the coming years, in that span of a

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<v Speaker 2>few years, found at least five other bodies missing.

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<v Speaker 1>In that area.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. It's the hog trail. It's a, it's a hiking area, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>of that part of Florida and yes, five bodies discovered

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<v Speaker 3>in the same general area of where burden was assaulted.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, he had a place he liked to go

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<v Speaker 3>to and it was working for him. Some of them

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<v Speaker 3>were tied to trees. Some of them had genitals removed.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, every single body had the exact same hallmark.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so Roves, they were never able to definitively,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have as good of a case with those

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<v Speaker 2>other ones. So they went with the case that they

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<v Speaker 2>had more evidence and they could get a conviction on.

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<v Speaker 2>But Roves, that left these other cases unsolved. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to be that much of a crack

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<v Speaker 2>detective to go, these had to be connected to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's crazy is he was arrested in 97, convicted

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<v Speaker 3>in 99, but the investigation didn't end there. Because there

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<v Speaker 3>was another discovery. And by the way, all of these bodies,

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<v Speaker 3>if I recall, I read none of them had clothing

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<v Speaker 3>on them. So that was also of note that all

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<v Speaker 3>of these bodies were naked and obviously varying degrees of

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<v Speaker 3>they said some of them were skeletal remains that they found.

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<v Speaker 3>They found eight more men in the wood. They called

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<v Speaker 3>them the Fort Myers Eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Myers Eight.

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<v Speaker 3>And some of them were skeletal. They said one of

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<v Speaker 3>them actually was on the more recent side, but none

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<v Speaker 3>of them had clothing. All of them were bound. Many

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<v Speaker 3>of them had genitals removed or mutilated. Yes. So who

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<v Speaker 3>else in the same area, in the same time span,

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<v Speaker 3>and he often chose, and this is something we see

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of times with serial killers, chose transient folks,

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<v Speaker 3>folks who maybe didn't have people looking for them. Yeah. men,

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<v Speaker 3>young men who weren't reported missing by their families because they,

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<v Speaker 3>for whatever reason, left home and were in a period

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<v Speaker 3>of transition, a state of transition.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these never identify, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something that is just not how you're supposed to die, man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just folks don't even know who they are, these

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<v Speaker 2>folks that have been killed. And bro, you're talking the

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<v Speaker 2>count here is at least 13 other deaths that have

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<v Speaker 2>not been solved in the exact same area with the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same M.O., Robes, you have to deduce.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The thinking is, it's kind of the consensus and it's understood.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a serial killer that's going to be executed today.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. And thank God. I mean, he wreaked that much

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<v Speaker 3>havoc in two years, in a two-year time span. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>thank God both of those men got away and were

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<v Speaker 3>able to give enough information to police to lead them

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<v Speaker 3>to this man. Because when you have someone who is

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<v Speaker 3>preying on There's no link. There's no connection. It's almost

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<v Speaker 3>impossible to find that person because there is no familiarity.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no personal connection that would lead you to him.

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<v Speaker 3>You needed to have someone survive to get away, to

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<v Speaker 3>explain to police this is what happened, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>piece it all together that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that something?

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<v Speaker 2>The one guy looked in the backseat and said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>hell no.

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<v Speaker 1>He just caught a glimpse of the stuff in the backseat.

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<v Speaker 1>and said, I am out of here, and took off.

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<v Speaker 1>That is something. But stay here, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Conahan, we want you to hear his appeal to the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court. After, and I saved it to the end, Rose,

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<v Speaker 2>based on, I wanted to make sure you heard all

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<v Speaker 2>that other stuff. And you're not going to believe the

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<v Speaker 2>case he is making to the Supreme Court for why

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<v Speaker 2>they should stay his execution.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. It looks like

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<v Speaker 3>Florida will be executing its 15th inmate of the year

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<v Speaker 3>by lethal injection. This is their third execution in three weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're talking about Daniel Owen Conahan Jr. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a man who police believe is responsible for at least

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<v Speaker 3>13 deaths. He was convicted of just one of those

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<v Speaker 3>gruesome murders, but he has maintained his innocence from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>and he hasn't backed down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Robes, not much of a case to make, but he did,

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<v Speaker 2>and as they often do, or always even do, make

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<v Speaker 2>a case to the Supreme Court. Now, in his filing, Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>asking for a stay of execution, he actually used words

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<v Speaker 2>like innocence, prove his innocence. He is saying that DNA

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be tested that would prove him an innocent

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<v Speaker 2>man and that somebody else is responsible for the killing

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<v Speaker 2>of this victim.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so his appeal to the Supreme Court reads as follows.

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<v Speaker 3>This court is Mr. Conahan's last opportunity to access Florida's

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<v Speaker 3>statutory procedures for testing available DNA evidence that could prove Mr.

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<v Speaker 3>Conahan's long-maintained innocence, undermine his death sentence, and or identify

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<v Speaker 3>an alternative suspect. There were no eyewitnesses linking Mr. Conahan

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<v Speaker 3>to the crime, and no direct evidence has ever linked Mr.

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<v Speaker 3>Conahan to the crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Mr.

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<v Speaker 3>Conahan has steadfastly maintained his innocence for nearly 40 years

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<v Speaker 3>and should be allowed to test material items of evidence

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<v Speaker 3>that were collected as part of the criminal investigation that

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<v Speaker 3>led to his wrongful conviction and sentence of death.

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<v Speaker 2>Kim Kardashian is not putting out statements in support of

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<v Speaker 2>this guy's innocence.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody is.

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<v Speaker 2>For the most part, yes, you have groups out there

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<v Speaker 2>that are against the death penalty. They're against every death

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<v Speaker 2>sentence and understand that, but there is not some drumbeat

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<v Speaker 2>of innocence for this guy. It was remarkable robes. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess this is why it is important to get convictions

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<v Speaker 2>on other murders. What if something weird did happen here?

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<v Speaker 2>He's not actually charged with another crime, never convicted with another.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you do there? I don't know how nervous

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<v Speaker 2>anybody would be as they were waiting for the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 2>We should say, as of this recording here on this Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court hasn't officially responded that they are not

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<v Speaker 2>going to stay the execution. I guess something could happen,

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<v Speaker 2>but given their track record, Robes, we're not expecting that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and we certainly know that DeSantis is not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be intervening in any way, shape, or form, so

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<v Speaker 3>it would only be the Supreme Court, and we know

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<v Speaker 3>from Past executions, the bar is so high, and this

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<v Speaker 3>case certainly doesn't even seem to come close to meeting

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<v Speaker 3>any kind of standard where he would even have a

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<v Speaker 3>shot at anything or anyone stepping in to stop this execution,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way. And look, I was looking at these

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<v Speaker 3>numbers in Florida. 71 executions have been carried out in

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<v Speaker 3>the U.S.

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<v Speaker 2>Since 2025.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Florida accounts for 33 of them. So that's 46%. But

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<v Speaker 3>this year's executions, we've had 24 so far. Florida has

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<v Speaker 3>carried out 14. That's before this evening. That's 58%. So

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<v Speaker 3>if that number is going to go up even more,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not great at math, but that is an unbelievable

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<v Speaker 3>percentage that Florida is not only leading the way, they

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<v Speaker 3>are well over half of all the executions in this

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<v Speaker 3>country are taking place in the state of Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are six more scheduled in the country for

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<v Speaker 2>this month, for the month of September. And one of them, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>is Florida. But Rome's the one, and we will get

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<v Speaker 2>into this, folks, the one everybody's paying attention to, will

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<v Speaker 2>be paying attention to, is what's happening in Tennessee on

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<v Speaker 2>September 30th.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to see a woman executed for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in 200 years, they say in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>The first woman in 200 years in that state. And

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<v Speaker 3>she is trying and has been trying to stay that

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<v Speaker 3>execution for multiple reasons. She was a teenager when it happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But look for that coming up soon on our feed

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<v Speaker 3>because this is a story that is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>making major headlines here in the coming days. But we

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<v Speaker 3>will keep our eye on that Florida execution chamber. We

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<v Speaker 3>always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside

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<v Speaker 3>TJ Holmes.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk soon.