1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app on the radio from one until four. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: Then after four o'clock John and Ken on demand the 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: podcast you could hear what you missed because it's the 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: same thing as the radio show. 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Well, we got word of this story late last week 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: and we were going to talk to the Riverside County 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: District Attorney, Mike Hestron, but instead we're going to go 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: better and deeper into the story. We're going to talk 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: to the actual victim involved in the possibility of her 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: attackers parole. A man by the name of Cody Woodson KLEMP, 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: sixty seven years old. He is from a Renal valley. 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: He was granted parole earlier this month by the State 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: Parole Board. It is California's Elderly Parole program. Prisoners fifty 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: or older are eligible for parole hearings that they served 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: twenty continuous years of their sentence. Then they have to 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: determine whether or not they're suitable for release. Prior to 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, the Elderly pro Program and acted in 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen with pro review for inmate sixty year older 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: who've served twenty five years, so they lowered it in 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one to fifty year older with twenty continuous 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: years served at their sentence. This man has served twenty 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: nine years, but he got one hundred and seventy year 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: sentence from the judge in nineteen ninety four. It is 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: a terrible and horrendous story. And not only did he 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: sexually assault our guests numerous times, but he was already 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: a convicted rapist, found guilty of rape in nineteen seventy 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: six and attempted rape in nineteen ninety one. This case 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about, a jury convicted him in June of 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four. Forty felony counts, all of them horrific. 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: And the woman that suffered most of this abuse is 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: willing to talk to us, but she's going to remain anonymous. Hi. 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: Are you there, Yes, I'm here, welcome. I know this 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: is obviously extremely difficult to talk about, but it's really important. 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: Cody clamp is the name, and he was related to you. 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: Yes, he was my uncle my marriage. 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: And apparently you were put in his care. 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. The Department of Child and Protective Services, ironically enough 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: placed me in his care at fourteen when I was 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: awarded the court and I lived with him during that time. 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: They did not do a background check. How they had 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 3: done a background check, they would have known that he 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: was actually twice convicted of rape and he had and 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: then he had two attempted rapes, and then obviously he 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: raped me as a child multiple times. 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: So the government placed you with your uncle even though 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: he had a long rape history. And what happened with 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: your original mother and father? Why did they have to 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: place you with him? 51 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to go into too much detail 52 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: about that. I just kind of want to keep the 53 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: focus on Yeah, this race, it was clear from what we're. 54 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: Reading it you had a tough life before this. 55 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: I did, Yeah, I really did. 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: Well. 57 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: Can you describe what was happening? You're fourteen? What's he 58 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: doing here? 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: So so I you know, I suffered rape, I mean 61 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: at his hand for almost a year and and it 62 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: was it was brutal. I would wake up to him 63 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: kicking the bed and and I'm I'm to kick the 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: bed and you know, say wake up with the N word. 65 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: He would sneak into my room and they weren't, you know, 66 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: as if my list wasn't enough. They were attacks. He 67 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: attacked me multiple times. So he was playing out his 68 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: rape fantasies with a child. And like I said, that 69 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: happened at any given opportunity that he had for about a. 70 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: Year a year. Was there anybody else in the household. 71 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, his wife and some children, and he was very 72 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: abusive to them at the time. 73 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: His wife and children, So they all knew about this 74 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: going on, and he was abusing them. 75 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, he was abusing them too. They don't. 76 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: I believe that my aunt did not know what was 77 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: going on at the time because he did a really 78 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: good job making her think that he hated me in 79 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: front of He was very manipulative in front of people. 80 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: He would call me all kinds of names. He was 81 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: very abusive to me emotionally. But behind, you know, closed doors, 82 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: or any opportunity that he had alone with me, then 83 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: that's when he was abusing me. And so and the 84 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: others were children. You know, my cousins were children and 85 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: they were being physically abused by him. 86 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: This is happening in nineteen ninety He already was found 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: guilty of rape in nineteen seventy six attempted rape in 88 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one, he spends three years in a state 89 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: hospital as a mentally disordered sex offender. Do you know 90 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: why he was released after those rapes? 91 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: I have no idea. You know, I was a child 92 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: at that time, but if you think about it, you know, 93 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: at that time Patten was specifically focused on, you know, 94 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: treating these sex offenders with groups and you know, weekly therapy. 95 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: The intention was three years of rehabilitation every day. And 96 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: he got out and he was, like I said, he's manipulative. 97 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 3: He actually he got out and he committed a worse crime, 98 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: which has happened every single time he gets out of prison. 99 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: So he got out, he commits a worst crime because 100 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: now he's abusing children myself, And yeah, I have no 101 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: idea why they let him out. The bigger question is 102 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: why with me he was not deemed a sexually violent 103 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: pred because had he had been, he would not have 104 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: been eligible for this. 105 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: So well, you would think one hundred and seventy years 106 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: in prison would keep him from being eligible for anything, 107 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: but I guess this new elderly parole. It doesn't matter 108 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: what your sentence is. 109 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what your sentences unless you kill a 110 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: peace officer. And I think there's one other thing. I'm 111 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: not exactly sure, but I know for sure it's killing 112 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: a peace officer. But yeah, you could essentially rape a baby, 113 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: a newborn. You could rape a newborn child. And once 114 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: you have served twenty years of that sentence, at age fifty, 115 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: ye're eligible for parole as long as you're old. And 116 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: you say you're six. 117 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: Fifteen is not elderly. It's not even close to. 118 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: Being elder that's right, that's right. 119 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: And yeah, and so this is a parole board. I mean, 120 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: how many people voted on his release? 121 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, so this was a it was a two 122 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: panel parole board, and there was one person who was 123 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: quote unquote observing. And to be honest, we thought for 124 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: sure he that they that his speech, let's call it, 125 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: you know, his speech would keep him in the parole board, 126 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: poketols and his legitimacy, and it looked for sure like 127 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: he was going to stay in. But what the parole 128 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: board came back and said, they excused him, and they said, 129 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: this is going to be a grant for parole based 130 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: on the law, and we will we Yeah, as you 131 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: can imagine, my whole entire life was was it's unreal 132 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: and not just for me but for others. But yeah, 133 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: that was the sense that they had to do it. 134 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: It was you know, they were appointed by news. 135 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: Why did they even have a hearing? Well, I don't 136 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: understand they had to do it. 137 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: That poss said. 138 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: That's what he said. Let me tell you what's worse. 139 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: He went up for parole in twenty nineteen and on 140 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: the transcript of the hearing, the governor the I'm sorry, 141 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: the commissioners told him exactly what to say, to say 142 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: and do in the next hearing. So he so, let 143 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: me let me walk you through it. He sentenced to 144 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy years in prison. He gets his status, 145 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: he requests parole under the elderly provisions. He goes up 146 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: to the board. He sits at the board. He finds 147 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: out that his static ninety nine are which is a 148 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: report that evaluates his quote unquote risks a risk assessment 149 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: to other people that he gets a high score. So 150 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: what he does is he stipulates that he'll do five 151 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: more years before he comes back up to the board 152 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: because he has work to do. He was going to 153 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: stay in any way, so that the stipulation was ridiculous. 154 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: It was manipulative. So he sits through the hearing, and 155 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: in the hearing, a line for line tell them exactly 156 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: what they need him to do. We need you to 157 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: say this, we need you to do this. We need 158 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: you to write a book report, we need you to 159 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: go through we need to say, we need you to 160 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: say to stop blaming the victim. Now, remember he had 161 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: served twenty six years in prison and had never once 162 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: did anything anything to be rehabilitation. 163 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: So the whole things are forced to empty, the presents. 164 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: It's it's a complete joke. 165 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Here, can you hold on for us? Can you please 166 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: hold on for another segment? Yeah, okay, thank you. This 167 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: our guest is anonymous, so we don't know her first 168 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: name or her last name, but she was sexually assaulted, 169 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: viciously raped over a period of a year by a 170 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: man she was put into his custody. It turns out 171 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: it was her uncle. His name is Cody Woodson Klemp. 172 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: He was already a convicted rapist when he took in her, 173 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: and she was then fourteen years old. He is eligible 174 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: for parole, and apparently he's jumped the first hurdle to 175 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: be released from prison, even though we got one hundred 176 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: and seventy year sentence a judge in nineteen ninety four. 177 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: More coming up Johnny kenkf I AM six forty Live 178 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: Everywhere iHeartRadio app. 179 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 180 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 181 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: We continue with our anonymous guest. 182 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: Yes, she is the victim of severe sexual abuse and torture, 183 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: psychological abuse and torture at the hands of an uncle. 184 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: She was placed in his care when she was fourteen. 185 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: This went on for a year. This guy was already 186 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: a convicted rapist and I love this because they still 187 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: placed her in his home. And administrator for the La 188 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: County Department of Children's Services said at the time it 189 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: followed similar procedures for background checks, but only since nineteen 190 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: ninety one. Prior to that time, prospective guardians were simply 191 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: asked if they had criminal backgrounds. So that's why they 192 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: didn't know he was a rapist. I just to ask you, Oh, 193 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: of course not. 194 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: I don't have a criminal and nobody had any curiosity. 195 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,239 Speaker 2: He didn't volunteer that he was a rapist. Huh. 196 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: So she was placed in his care in nineteen ninety Wow, 197 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: it was horrific. The reason we're talking about. This story 198 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: is that this evil could be released from prison and 199 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: we're getting the first ancatastave is Cody Woodson KLEMPA Marino Valley. 200 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: It's this elderly parole program because he's sixty seven and 201 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: he has served twenty nine years of one hundred and 202 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: forty seven year sentence. He's passed the first hurdle towards 203 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: release and might be Gavin Newsom could be the only 204 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: thing block in the way. So let's bring our guests 205 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: back on and talk more about this. 206 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: Have wait, we're trying to get her back on the air. 207 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: Oh did we stay? Did we get disconnected? She dropped down. 208 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: She said what I want to ask her too about 209 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: She really doesn't want this man in the public because 210 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 1: she thinks he'll do this again. But she's also a 211 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: concerned for her own life because obviously, if you're the 212 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: one fighting for this man's release and he's a psychological wacko, 213 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: this could be trouble. 214 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: I mean, she's got physical and psychological scores. To this day, 215 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: it looks like she had to go. 216 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: Oh she did have to go. Okay, Well, we can 217 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: read some of what she said in one of her interviews. 218 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: And by the way, I didn't get to this part 219 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: of the story. This ended because she ran away at 220 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: age fourteen. She ended up in a group home. She 221 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: eventually reported the abuse to a counselor, who then reported 222 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: it to police. The only reason the abuse stop is 223 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: because I had the guts to run away. I had 224 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: no money, I had nowhere to go, and yet anything 225 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: I faced in the streets would have been better than 226 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: I was facing at home. Reminds me of what was 227 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: that that Turpin family, remember them, the father and mother 228 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: that were abusing all those kids, And one of them 229 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: finally broke away and ran and got help and got 230 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: them all arrested. 231 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: She didn't want to talk about it in the air, 232 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: but she did tell details of her life. 233 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: Before, oh before she got sent to this guy's home. 234 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and her mother was disabled, and she had at 235 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: least a dozen other children. All of them were adopted 236 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: out to foster homes or families developmentally disabled. I don't 237 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: know exactly what condition, but to have twelve children all 238 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: sent to foster homes, and at age three, another uncle 239 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: of our guests beat her mother's toddler son to death 240 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: in front of her. And that's how our guest wound 241 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: up in the foster care system for the next five years. 242 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: Then she was placed in the custody of her father 243 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,239 Speaker 2: and aunt in Long Beach. Her father was an inattentive 244 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 2: philanderer who neither had parenting skills or the selflessness to 245 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: raise her. My dad said he didn't want me anymore, 246 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: and from age eight she was placed in Clemp's care, 247 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: and she was going in and out of the child 248 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: welfare system. She was in a children's home, a ward 249 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: of the court, and eventually Clemp and his wife agreed 250 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: to take her in social services. 251 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: Not and again the only thing they did was ask, 252 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: can do you have a criminal record? 253 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: I know, but he was already convicted rapist Ynice. Yeah. 254 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: I mean, we've had there's been a problem except for 255 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: the brief period after the three strikes legislation was passed 256 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: in the nineteen nineties. California has had a horrific problem 257 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: in letting the worst murderers, rapists, whack jobs out of 258 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: prison too early and then watching them do these repeat 259 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: crimes and just gruesome, vicious stuff. 260 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong. 261 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: With the people of this state going back generations that 262 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: they elect a series of moronic legislators and idiot governors, 263 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: and we keep ending up in the same place. And 264 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: this doesn't happen in a lot of other states. In 265 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: most other states, you would never have this situation. You 266 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: would not have a guy coming out after twenty nine 267 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: years of a one hundred and seventy year sentence. 268 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: That just simply wouldn't exist. During a November eighth parole 269 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: suitability hearing, one of the commissioners, and this is according 270 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: to our guest and her husband ask Clemp if he did, 271 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: in fact threaten to kill the victim prior to his 272 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four conviction, and he said, yes, he wanted 273 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: to kill her. 274 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: So how is this not I mean, this is a 275 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: story at the Santase Mercury News. 276 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: How is this. 277 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: Not what the court just the information in this story 278 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: is enough to keep him in prison till he dies exactly. 279 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: But you could see the fanaticism of the people in 280 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: the prison system now is there is no story heinous 281 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: enough to keep? 282 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: And I remember the manch So they keep telling us 283 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: these are non serious, non vitin defender. Well they're down, 284 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: of course they have all these so they rejigger this 285 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: elderly parole thing down to fifty years old. 286 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: I didn't know it's fifty. I thought every other record. 287 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: They rejiggered it in twenty twenty one to get it 288 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: down to fifty. 289 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: Well, why I remember it's sixty yes, which is really bad. Uh, 290 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: it's about the their physical condition. It's about that. Well, 291 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: they should just not be let out. You end up 292 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: getting lost in the weeds debating minor points. The truth 293 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: is you do this kind of vicious raping for a 294 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: whole year against your blood relative. You, I mean, you 295 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: really ought to be killed. Well, you realize the end. 296 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Of the story. Here has a way you can respond. 297 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: The DA's office in Riverside County put out a press release. 298 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: Anyone opposed to Klemp's release can contact the parole people 299 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: at or Newsom actually nine one six four four five 300 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: two eight four one. That's nine one six four four 301 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: five two eight four one. Or you can contact Newsom 302 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: at ten twenty one oh Street, Sweet nine thousand and Sacramento. 303 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: Because if Newsomb truly is running for president, I don't 304 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: think you'd want this guy release. And what if this 305 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: guy does go do some serious damage? Right, maybe he'll block. 306 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: This he's he's inconsistent. Newsom is sometimes he blocks these things, 307 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 2: sometimes he doesn't. There doesn't seem he doesn't like. 308 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: Let murderers out. That's one thing that Gray Davis was 309 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: big on too. Doesn't this doesn't let too many murderers out. 310 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: He didn't let rfk's murderer out. 311 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: But no, he didn't, although that Manson girl got out. 312 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: Yeah that's true, she did. Yeah, it was like the 313 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: fiftieth time. I guess by what a disaster the whole 314 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: system is, and what a disaster just the public is 315 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: in the state for voting for this stuff, voting for 316 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: the legislators who passed this stuff, you know, every just 317 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: just it's they don't do this anywhere else. 318 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: They just don't. 319 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: Nobody would even think of it, let alone put it 320 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: into law. 321 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll be right back down and Ken I 322 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: am six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 323 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 324 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 325 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: One more thing about that woman we had on the 326 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: last half hour who was raped for a year when 327 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: she was fourteen years old back in nineteen ninety four. 328 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: Her uncle is now in the Vergie getting released from 329 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 2: prison a hunt written forty years early. 330 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: Already a convicted rapist, but they didn't pick up on 331 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: that when they placed her in the home. 332 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: And one of the key moments was when she was 333 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: put into the uncle's house by child services because her 334 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: family situation had fallen apart, and so they put her 335 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: there and the uncle was supposed to raise her. Nobody 336 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: checked that the uncle had two rape convictions in his past. 337 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: Nobody bothered to do that in government. By coincidence, I'm 338 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: looking at the New York Times during the commercial break, 339 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: and they've got a very long story. It says it 340 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: would take twenty two minutes to read, so I'm not 341 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 2: reading it. I haven't even started to read it. I 342 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 2: just wanted to read the headline. Before nearly one hundred 343 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: random attacks in New York City. The mentally ill, homeless 344 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: people who committed those acts were failed by a system 345 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: that keeps making the same errors. They didn't treat them properly, 346 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: They released them when they shouldn't have released them. I'm 347 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: sure there's nine one hundred different stories as to what happened, 348 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: and often it is the decisions of these people in 349 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: government that are inexplicable. Why don't you do a background 350 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: check to see if a guy has these rape convictions. 351 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: Why are these parole officials releasing this guy. Why are 352 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: there one hundred random attacks in New York, all released 353 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: from a mental hospital without the proper treatment. Why do 354 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: all those inspectors go under the bridge and see the 355 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: homeless encampment and the flammable materials and the illegal businesses 356 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: and nobody does anything. It's the same story no matter 357 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: what you look at. You have government people who just 358 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: simply don't do their job. 359 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: They don't care. 360 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: These aren't ideological political debates. This is just you get 361 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: up in the morning, either do your job or you don't. 362 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: And when you don't do it in certain agencies, it's 363 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 2: catastrophic the consequences. 364 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: It was only required at the time that you ask 365 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: the applicant if they have a criminal record, and he 366 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: said no, I'm sure. Oh hey, oh boy. 367 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: These people really lack the slightest bit of imagination. Hey, 368 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: maybe we should check and see if they have criminal backgrounds, 369 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: because life could get worse for this poor girl. As 370 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: bad as it was with the rest of her family, 371 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: it actually got worse. Nobody thought of that. 372 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: Huh uh, All right, Well, if you were listening. Last hour, 373 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: we talked about some attacking monkeys in India, including one 374 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: that apparently attacked a little boy and tore out his intestines. 375 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: Debra Mark had something to say about that, Oh. 376 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 5: Those are very bad monkeys. 377 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: Well they are, and then after the cross talk led 378 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: her to announce that she may have to take a 379 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: day off. You're taking the week off anyway. You told 380 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: us that this morning, So that was a fast I 381 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: need it even more. Now you want to come on 382 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: the here tomorrow as oh devers to just draw it 383 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: to return today over the monkeys health day. Well, now 384 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: I have a turkey story for you, and I have 385 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: to say I sympathize. Do either one of you have 386 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: a guess? And this is a number coming from obviously 387 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: an animal group, so maybe taken with the greatest salt. 388 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: How many turkeys are killed each year for Thanksgiving in US? 389 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: One hundred million, one hundred million, says Eric. All right, John, 390 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: I will go with seventy two million, seventy two million. 391 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 5: Mark, I'd say twenty. 392 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: Five million right between you. 393 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: Two forty six million, forty six that's the approximate number. 394 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: She was the closest without going over you considered three 395 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: hundred million plus Americans, but not everybody SAT does Thanksgiving, 396 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: and then you do it by household. So if you 397 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: do the division right, forty six million turkeys are uh 398 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: so I'm doing nobody likes a single one of those 399 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: turkey dinners. 400 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Uh, you are correct. You know, I've been trying the 401 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: deep fried turkey, which makes it because they're alf dry. 402 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: My mother made a nice turkey, but it was very dry. 403 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: And you know, as kids, we used to eat the 404 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: sandwiches for days. We slather on mayonnaise just to give 405 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: it some sort of moisture or something that I would 406 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: only eat. That's what the cranberry sauce is for, right 407 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: till you put you know, even in the gravy, right right. 408 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: Oh, even in adulthood. I just ate the stuffing. I've 409 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: been In fact, the turkey's not an everyday food for 410 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: most people. 411 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: Tells you it's not that a peace that's right chicken. 412 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: If it was good, we wouldn't just be eating the 413 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: turkey on Thanksgiving? 414 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: Right? 415 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: But how many times do you have a turkey sandwich? 416 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: Do you make a turkey sandwich at home? Never? 417 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: So I'm reading from the president and co founder of 418 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: a group that were more cold farm sanctuary, and obviously 419 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: they take in turkeys to try to they would like 420 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: you to adopt one so at their farm sanctuary. But 421 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: he throws in the other sad thing that's happened to 422 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: the turkeys besides being slaughtered for Thanksgiving. It's that good 423 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: old Avian flu. And they believe that the number of 424 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: the birds also had to be put down more than 425 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: sixty million since twenty twenty two, due to the fact 426 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: that you know, they raise them on these turkey farms 427 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: and they're all close in together. So once one gets 428 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: the flu, it can spread quickly unless you put a 429 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: stop to it. By and he does use the word culling. 430 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: Culling refers to the killing of animals before they would 431 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: have been slaughtered for human consumption. 432 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: Nobody's bird flu is highly contagious. Nobody speaks plainly. Why 433 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 2: do you have to come up with culling culling? I 434 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 2: thought is when you collect something, how did you get 435 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: out of this? Well, it's an improper word to describe 436 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: the master. He also says that bird flu has infected people. 437 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: Human cases have been reported for some time now have 438 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: shown a fifty two percent mortality rate disease outbreaks in animals, 439 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: exacerbated by the stress, the overcrowding, and the responsible overuse 440 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: of antibiotics. 441 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: No wonder they taste bad. Well, yeah about that part too. 442 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: Parts kind of gruesome. They're all stretched out and angry. 443 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: Factory farmed turkeys, which by one estimate, account for more 444 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: than ninety nine percent of US farm turkeys, can't engage 445 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: in natural behaviors. They have been forced to grow so 446 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: fast and large that mating is physically impossible. Oh no, 447 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: so the industry, Yeah, the industry does artificial insemination, which 448 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: includes the disturbing and violent practice of milking, oh god, milking, 449 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: milking the toms. The male turkeys are milk for their 450 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: for their you know, John, their sperm, and then they 451 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: inseminate that. 452 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: Wait wait wait, somebody goes and yeah, they distract it, 453 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: manipulates a little turkey penis. 454 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: They showed turkey porn. 455 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 5: This is not funny, this is really sad. 456 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: And you and I said, I sympathize having turkey. 457 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 5: They good, ken, Well, John's not gonna have turkey. 458 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: I never had much turkey. 459 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: No. John made a big speech a couple weeks ago 460 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: about don't they're not doing turkey, right, No, we haven't 461 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: done turkey. For somebody's making a lasagna or something. 462 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: We might go down to a restaurant. I'm just not 463 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: up certain holidays. I can't get into. 464 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: You're missing the point. 465 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 5: Okay, John, you're missing the poort again. 466 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: You're missing the point. What's the point? 467 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 5: The point is these poor turkeys, they can't even mate. 468 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: They're treated so awfully, right, and then and you wonder 469 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 5: why we have avian bird flu. And then we have 470 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 5: to massacre the birds because humans are smushing them together. Right, 471 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 5: And then so one gets sixth in the other, and 472 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 5: so on and so forth. 473 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: And if you survive, you get milked against your will. 474 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: Just the procedure, which is the ventilation shut down. 475 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's basically says. 476 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: It's like leaving a dog in a hot car to 477 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: die on a hot day. 478 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: Is that what they do? 479 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: Animals die slowly over the course of hours. Is ventilation 480 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: to the barn is sealed off and the heat is 481 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: turned up, so they cook them basically. Yeah, but they 482 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: also just die of no air. Right. 483 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 6: The turkey I had today was treated well? 484 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Was it tasty? Yeah? The sales lunch today was great? 485 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: Oh oh, how do you know, the turkey was treated well. 486 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: It was treated well by me. Tasted good though, Yeah, 487 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: it was pretty good. 488 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: It was actually prettyist. What do you and Debora Mark 489 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: talk about off the air? 490 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 5: I wonder I think we should ban turkeys on Thanksgiving. 491 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 5: We should come up with something else, you know, just 492 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 5: cranberry sauce or or. 493 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: Arbelly. 494 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 2: Oh god. 495 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: He claims they're actually very smart and very sociable animals. 496 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: They are. 497 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: Socially sophisticated. The words this guy used, socially sophisticated. 498 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: This little cocktail part animal doesn't tilt its head up 499 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 2: and drown in the rain. 500 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: Is that true though? Is that another? 501 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I like it. 502 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: I know you like it, but I news it. 503 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: Might be because I heard that one too when I 504 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: was a kid, and I guess we all found that fun. 505 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: You have to learn. He'll hang on to anything if 506 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 1: it's fun. It doesn't matter if it's true or though. 507 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stay around forever for him. 508 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: I'm interested in amusing myself. That's you're amused? Yeah, all right, 509 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: we'll be right back. John kenya k if I am 510 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: six forty Live Everywhere Radio app. 511 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 512 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 513 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna let Debra Mark rest for the rest 514 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: of the week. She will not be doing the news, 515 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: So there you go. We'll have to just cut back 516 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: on the animal torture stories. 517 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 2: Shave them up though. 518 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: A favorite punching bag. It shows you, you know, times 519 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: change and some thing's become irrelevant for us years on 520 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: the show was the United States Postal Service. We have 521 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: these two stories which are I would say, diametrically opposed. 522 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: We have a guy and he's in LA who's been 523 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: working for the Post Office since December thirty first, nineteen 524 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: fifty five. Think about that, Dwight Eisenhower was president. We 525 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: still had the Rosa Park story. The Brooklyn Dodgers won 526 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: their first and only World Series the year he started. 527 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: He was just a twenty year old. He is now 528 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: ninety years old and still working at the Los Angeles 529 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: International Service Center, which is a Post Office processing center, 530 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: and he says he has no intentions to quit. 531 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: Do you realize he's a lot sharper than Biden, and 532 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: this guy's ninety two. You could put him in the 533 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: White House and he'd probably do better. 534 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: He probably would make a lot more sense. So though 535 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: he does admit he's not very good at texting, Oh no, 536 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: you could imagine the oh that's terrible. Yes, but his 537 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: coworkers come to him with advice, talk about their careers. 538 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: You know, I see so many debates and polls and 539 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: articles about Americans think he's too old. It's not age, 540 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: it's whether you're feeble or not. Did you see what 541 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: Trump did today on Biden's birthday? 542 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: Oh? Issued is yeah, now medical record so he's lost 543 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: weight and he's as been fit as ever right seventy seven. 544 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it is an age, it's your condition. Biden 545 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: is a bad deteriorated state. This guy, this postal worker 546 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: guy's ninety two and he's going strong. 547 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. We have seen obviously from when he was vice president, 548 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: when he ran against when he ran in twenty twenty 549 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: against Trump changes. But the last three years since he's 550 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: been president really rough ones for Biden at late seventies 551 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: and now eighty one years old, and it doesn't go backwards. 552 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: You know. This whole No, you can't reclaim it, this 553 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: whole debate about re electing him as obviously you don't 554 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: reelect him. He's spent This gets progressively worse. 555 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: New some new, some new some. 556 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 6: No, this postal worker guy is John's hero though he's 557 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 6: working until he's going to die. 558 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, that's right. 559 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: There you go, that's right. That's the idea. Now on 560 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: the other side of the coin, and I just couldn't 561 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: get over this number. There's been a US postal worker 562 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: has been indicted with a group of people in stealing 563 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: twenty four million dollars in checks. That is a windfall. 564 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: Now we're talking about. You know that stuff goes on 565 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: at my post office. I'm convinced of it. We lost 566 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: so many checks that. 567 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: Ever got to stop using old paper checks. 568 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: Well we've tried. 569 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: In fact, I put I think it was a check 570 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: in the mail a couple weeks ago in the mailbox 571 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: near me. I didn't go to the post office. I 572 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: just said, and they had like this big notice on 573 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: it and the slot got really tiny that you know 574 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: there are people that are getting in there. Yeah, it's 575 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: taking the taking the checks that you're mailing out. 576 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: I strongly suspect our local postal workers where we go are. 577 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: You said your wife didn't trust paying like online, Well 578 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: she's gotten used to it. 579 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 1: It's come around to it. 580 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's been the whole thing. 581 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: The three people indicted stole more than twenty four million, 582 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: including more than twelve million and stolen checks that were 583 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: posted for sale online. You can do that, huh? And 584 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: eight million in checks from the US Treasury. 585 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: We got one of those checks back. There was some 586 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: investigation done and somebody had had whited out some of 587 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: the information. 588 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they have to do. You have to 589 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: alter it. 590 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they altered the checks, and but nobody. 591 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: Should cash a check that's got to white it out 592 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: on it. 593 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: How dumb is that I'd used the term white it out. 594 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what they did. Something method they have. 595 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: Right right? 596 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: I bet you a fools mobile deposit? Oh yeah, right could. 597 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: But those checks don't clear right away. They have to 598 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: still undergo. 599 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: Do they undergo some kind. 600 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: Of on the next door app My post office is 601 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: notorious all A lot of the neighbors have complained about 602 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: their checks disappearing, either the ones that were mailed to 603 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: them or the ones that they mailed out. So there's 604 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: some kind of criminal gang. Oh yeah, no, it's a 605 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 2: big business. 606 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: That's what apparently people have been and it's got to 607 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: be ways to get into the mailboxes and suck out 608 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: all the checks that people are mailing into pay bills, 609 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: and they just alter them and use them. 610 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Nothing more horrifying than going into my post office. Oh, 611 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: just so much crime, now, I know, so anyway, good 612 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: for the United two year old guy. 613 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: In fact, there was helicopters circling over my home yesterday 614 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 1: for two hours. Finally found out they were looking for 615 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: a home invader guy. Apparently they caught him, but he 616 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: was I guess he was running around in the backyards 617 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: of the neighborhoods and they were chasing them with the helicopters. 618 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: I was at a shopping center the other day and 619 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: there were helicopters for an hour buzz Usually that means 620 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: they're trying to track somebody on the street, and I 621 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: wondered if there was like a smash and grab going 622 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: on somewhere else in the mall. 623 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: Conway's here. 624 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 6: Hey, Now, when there's helicopters about my house, I go 625 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 6: out usually buzzed. But I do that that sort of 626 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 6: Eastern European song helicopter helicopter. 627 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: You did do that? Huh? 628 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 6: Sometimes I do that. Ye neighbors love it. Neighbors keep 629 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 6: the kids away your clothes. You must have been Oh yeah, 630 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 6: you must be a riot to live next door too. 631 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 6: I'm an acquired taste. 632 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: Hey, Now, when you guys came out here from. 633 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 6: New Jersey or Pennsylvania, New York, I don't know what 634 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 6: your last stop was before he came out here, New Jersey, Jerseys. Okay, 635 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 6: is this town better now than it was when you 636 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 6: came out here? 637 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: No, it's worse. 638 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well we got here there was still reeling 639 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 2: over the riots of nineteen ninety two, so things are 640 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: tense here. I have to say, But could you know 641 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: what do you mean by that? 642 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: No, there wasn't that many homeless people or crime that 643 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: I can remember, except there there was a big gang 644 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: crime for a couple of years. 645 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 6: Okay, here's my point. There is no John and Ken 646 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 6: in San Francisco. That doesn't exist. No, no, it doesn't. 647 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 6: We haven't guys here in LA and this place would 648 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 6: be like San Francisco if it wasn't for you too. 649 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: That's the point. 650 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: That's that, that's the point, that's the will embrace the point. 651 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, the nineties were pretty good in LA. 652 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: Once Rotten took over. Seventies were good except for murder. Right, Yeah, 653 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: so if you weren't one of the victims, if. 654 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 6: You were murdered, you did okay. 655 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: But it was a lot of fun growing up you. 656 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: We'll take all the credit for you. You don't like 657 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: the twenty twenties, Is that what you're saying. No, it's tough. 658 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 6: It's tough, man, you know, looking at the at the 659 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 6: King's roster, the Lakers roster, Rams or I don't know, Dodgers, 660 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 6: about ninety percent of those people that play on these 661 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 6: teams were not born before nine to eleven. They weren't 662 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 6: you know, there are a lot of men in their twenties, 663 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 6: like like Lebron James was ten. Yeah, you know, I 664 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 6: Dowdy was six. You know, the guy plays for the Kings. Yeah, 665 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 6: Jonathan Quaker used play for the Kings. He was four, 666 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 6: I mean or six. And it's and it's weird to 667 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 6: think back that we all have such a fresh memory 668 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 6: of what happened on nine to eleven, and this generation 669 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 6: of athletes don't remember it. The whole generation wasn't here. Yeah, 670 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 6: And all they know is what we've told them. And 671 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 6: I don't think we're telling them enough because they're getting 672 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 6: squirrely with this. So I'm Asama bin laden Letter. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 673 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 6: we've got to remind him that this was a pretty 674 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 6: hairy toime. 675 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, when when when a generation dies off, it's like, 676 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: that's why all this stuff is coming back against the 677 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: against the Jews, because the whole generation, that's right, experience 678 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: of Holocaust, just about the entire generation is dead. It's 679 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: happening again. So well this is how it started. Yeah, 680 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: think about this in just a couple of days. Sixty 681 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: years since DAYFK was assassinated. 682 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: Is that right? 683 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're twenty third, right or twenty second or 684 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: twenty third? I think twenty twenty second November nineteen sixty three. Yeah. 685 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 6: I was five weeks old and my mom was very depressed. 686 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 6: You remember that I was born. 687 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: Oh, ding dog, Ding dog? 688 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: You got anything on the show? Not really, No, but 689 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. 690 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 6: It's not gonna be that great. Okay, it's really not. 691 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 6: Things could change, No, I'd look around. 692 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: I flip around, look around. There's always our podcast, that's right. 693 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 6: I haven't heard break the podcast up or flip around, 694 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 6: and there's three hours we had Christmas music. 695 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 2: Flip around. It's not gonna go good today, go good. Well, 696 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 2: there's always always tomorrow, all right, Conway, next time He's 697 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: got nothing car and Andrew Caravella has the news live 698 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: in the CAFI twenty four hour Newsroom. 699 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to The John and Ken Show. 700 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: You can always hear us live on kf I Am 701 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: six forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 702 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app