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Speaker 1: Hi there, um. I'm calling because I'm trying to track

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Speaker 1: down some information about my mother's partner who died in

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Speaker 1: two My mom has been waiting thirty seven years to

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Speaker 1: say goodbye to Billy. I guess my questions she They

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Speaker 1: called her to identify the body. She came back back

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Speaker 1: in the summer of nine two. My mom says after

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Speaker 1: her permission, he'd been sent to a cemetery where people

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Speaker 1: are buried in mass graves by the city and they said, oh,

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Speaker 1: we send him to a potter's field. She never knew where.

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Speaker 1: So I'm on the phone with the Office of the

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Speaker 1: Chief Medical Examiner here in New York. Under what circumstances

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Speaker 1: would a body be sent to a potter's field? From you, guys,

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Speaker 1: if we were unable to contact any family members or friends,

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Speaker 1: or no one came forward to make arrangements for a person,

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Speaker 1: or if we did reach someone and they made the

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Speaker 1: on Hart Island, Hard Island. So Hard Island is the

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Speaker 1: potter's field for the city of New York. According to

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Speaker 1: the Medical Examiner's Office, Billy has to be buried on

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Speaker 1: Hart Island. The only problem is when I searched the

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Speaker 1: city's Heart Island database, Heightsman nothing, William Heightsman nothing. There

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Speaker 1: is no William Heightsman. But then what's going on? What

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Speaker 1: it's the Hard Island look Up Service. Look Heightman, William

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Speaker 1: thirty seven years old. Date of death June two at

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Speaker 1: Cabrini Medical Center. He's buried at plot number one thirty six.

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Speaker 1: I just fucking found Billy Heightman. There's no z and

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Speaker 1: that's why we haven't been able to find him this

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Speaker 1: whole time. Oh my god, this whole thing was just

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Speaker 1: a misspelling. I fucking found Billy today on the show

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Speaker 1: Heart Island from Crime Town. I'm io till it right,

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Speaker 1: and this is the ballad of Billy Balls. I got

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Speaker 1: the number of the Potter's Field and on the other

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Speaker 1: end it was the Great Diggers, and I says, where

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Speaker 1: is the body of William Heitzman? And they laughed, they laughed.

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Speaker 1: I remember just the raw feeling of the fucking pain

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Speaker 1: of I agree, and I would like to not remember

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Speaker 1: that feeling. Quiz. The only thing this stopped it was

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Speaker 1: you being born? All right, We're gonna find that, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna find Okay, okay, Chapter eleven, there's someone under this ground. Well,

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Speaker 1: not too far away from the bright and dazzling lights

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Speaker 1: one of America's darkest secrets. Almost one million people buried

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Speaker 1: here since the eighteen hundreds on just over one d acres.

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Speaker 1: Potter's failed on. Heart Island is a small patch of

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Speaker 1: land in the easternmost parts of the Bronx. Can you

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Speaker 1: describe physically what Heart Island looks and feels and sounds like? Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's the least developed part of New York City, right,

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Speaker 1: so it's truly this rural landscape. Melinda Hunt is an

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Speaker 1: a nonprofit working the catalog and tell the stories of

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Speaker 1: the people buried there. She spent a lot of time

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Speaker 1: on the island. There aren't any markers, so it doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like what we call a traditional cemetery private cemetery, right,

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Speaker 1: because there aren't all these markers. So it's just it's

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Speaker 1: a bird sanctuary. There's herds of de here, as these

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Speaker 1: red raccoons. It's just all this wildlife there because people

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Speaker 1: Island Sound that sailboats going by, and it's just this

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Speaker 1: really meaningful place because so many people are buried there.

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Speaker 1: It's actually the country's largest natural burial ground, and it's

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Speaker 1: a very sustainable ecological system of burials, except that it's

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Speaker 1: Heart Island is run by the Department of Correction, the

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Speaker 1: agency best known for overseeing the city's prisons. Over the years,

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Speaker 1: it was home to a missile base, an insane asylum,

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Speaker 1: the pine box at the morgue and loaded into a

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Speaker 1: So that's how it's done. Inmates from Rikers Islands, a

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Speaker 1: Melinda interviewed for a documentary she made called Heart Island

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Speaker 1: they were dead people. It's inherently shameful to have prisoners burying.

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Speaker 1: The dad Melinda say, is that because the Department of

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Speaker 1: there's a shroud of shame around it and the people

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Speaker 1: a deterrent based on shame, and so the shame creates

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Speaker 1: um stigma. You can't celebrate a life if it's tainted.

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Speaker 1: my mother. You are the long term life partner but

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Speaker 1: like kind of what she would have encountered. Um, Well,

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Speaker 1: if she went to identify she was providing a service

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Speaker 1: no further rights, and my mother would not have had

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Speaker 1: the city would have tried to find it next of kin,

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Speaker 1: was at Cabrini. We have a theory about how this

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Speaker 1: might have gone down. I asked Billy's daughter Amanda about

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Speaker 1: it the first time we met. She did say, which

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Speaker 1: the grandma didn't want anything to do with it and

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Speaker 1: told him to funk off. As her legal guardian. Amanda's

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Speaker 1: grandmother did have the right to make the decision that

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Speaker 1: didn't have egal rights to him in and based on

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Speaker 1: the Heart Island rules, I'm not sure she has the

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Speaker 1: right to visit him today near Kitty Department of Corrections,

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Speaker 1: don't ask for proof and friends do visit, Oh their friends,

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Speaker 1: you know. Not to discredit her. God, that's so humane,

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Speaker 1: that's so and so unexpected from the DC to me

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Speaker 1: And that's just a call that you're able to make,

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Speaker 1: right exactly. We have to trust that there was a

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Speaker 1: relationship and that she would want to be clothed. Wow. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what is your name? Mrs Calvert? Wow? Ms Calvert? Thank

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Speaker 1: you a million times over. Thank you, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: No problem. You guys have a great day too. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Whoa dude? What? I cannot believe what just happened. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe what has happened. You realize what this means, right?

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Speaker 1: This means there's no obstacle to my mother getting to

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Speaker 1: has been waiting to do for thirty seven fucking years.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing right now? Where are we going?

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Speaker 1: We're walking to my mom's house, where I'm going to

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Speaker 1: tell her that I found Billy's body and that she

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Speaker 1: can go visit him with no restrictions. Today is just

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Speaker 1: a chance to process this. It's big I'm away. I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy to see you, Mark Mine. Look at you

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Speaker 1: a little pastel colors. Oh god, my mom doesn't know

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Speaker 1: why I'm here. I asked her to sit down, but anyway, goad, um,

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Speaker 1: well I have I have some some news. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: you know. So I'm sorry what you heard? What I says?

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Speaker 1: Where are you going? I'm need to go to where wherever?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go next. Next we're going to Heart Island.

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Speaker 1: That's after the breaks. Oh there she is right there. Okay.

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Speaker 1: and I picked my mom up at her apartment. Hey,

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Speaker 1: as being her. My mom's dressed all in black with

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's total London fog. After a half

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Speaker 1: The ferry to Heart Island leaves from here. Salt Air.

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Speaker 1: Nice it is, huh. It's basically like a suburban fishing town.

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Speaker 1: It's a quaint little village vibe, but everything is covered

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Speaker 1: in mist. My mom carry is with her a white

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Speaker 1: envelope that she plans to bring to Billy. I'm smuggling possible.

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Speaker 1: They're worry. We walked towards a dock that's fenced off

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Speaker 1: Oh God, hold my hand, my body. The mist is

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