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Speaker 3: So we got Mark.

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Speaker 1: Stein coming up in about twenty minutes, Long time NBA insider,

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Speaker 1: can we see the Mavericks pull of surprise fmarw and

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Speaker 1: get the latest day, Kyrie Irving gets a new three

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Speaker 1: year deal from the Mavericks. Tonight, we're looking ahead at

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Speaker 1: the draft tomorrow night, breaking down the trades we've seen

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Speaker 1: coming up the next few weeks. Nobody better to talk

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Speaker 1: to tonight than Mark Stein in advance of the NBA Draft. Now,

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Speaker 1: but I say trades, all right, and Chris tops Porzingis

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Speaker 1: has been traded again and again. This is proof that

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Speaker 1: really I could be an NBA insider because last night

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Speaker 1: when the Celtics traded Drew Holliday away, getting Affonty Simons back,

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Speaker 1: which was a great trade for them.

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Speaker 3: Uh, what do we say last night? This era of

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Speaker 3: the Celtics is over, Johnny over and Drew Holliday is

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Speaker 3: not the first, not gonna be the last big name

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Speaker 3: they deal this offseason. What was the next guy said,

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Speaker 3: you just wait until christops Porzingis gets traded, And he

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Speaker 3: gets traded like fourteen hours later. Like I was just

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out where it was gonna be.

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Speaker 1: How did I not say I have inside info telling

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Speaker 1: me that Porzingis is next to get traded, because it happened.

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Speaker 3: You actually said, Larry Bird.

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 1: I did say Larry Bird, Lar Bird, Bird Bird and

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Speaker 1: Michale will both go on the same traun mean, you.

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Speaker 3: Can always say it. I mean, who's gonna prove you wrong?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I hear things. I could be a guy

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Speaker 3: on the street busking. It could be a guy at

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Speaker 3: the barber shop. I got sources, like I could I

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Speaker 3: like that, I could be like, it could be the

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Speaker 3: second voice in your head. Maybe it like a detective

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Speaker 3: is better, Hey, sports detective? Because I could tell this

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Speaker 3: was the Celtics understanding and hey, one bad injury to

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Speaker 3: Jason Tatum means the end of an era, right, That's

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Speaker 3: how fast it goes in the NBA because a year ago,

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Speaker 3: at this time, right you would have said, well, could

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Speaker 3: the Celtics be a dynasty? And again, you know we've

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Speaker 3: gone from hey, right after a team wins? Can they

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Speaker 3: repeat to right after a team wins? Oh, this could

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Speaker 3: be the next dynasty in the NBA. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: which was funny with Boston because out of the other

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Speaker 3: them up? That's yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't say dynasty because that's just stupid.

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Speaker 1: But hey, did they open a title window? That's maybe

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Speaker 1: the better thing to say, Hey, what's this time we talked?

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Speaker 1: Because the title window for the Thunder it clearly opened

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Speaker 1: they still have their guys that they need to under

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Speaker 1: They got first round pat draft picks. Like their window

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Speaker 1: to win a title is open. But dinah, let me

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Speaker 1: come on, man, you would have said at this point

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Speaker 1: last year, Celtics win the title this exact day last year, Hey,

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Speaker 1: they win the title. Look at their young talent Tatum

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Speaker 1: They could be a dynasty. Where are we one year later?

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Speaker 3: This era is over and you're not going to recognize

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Speaker 3: the Celtics on the floor next season. Jalen Brown could

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Speaker 1: I think White they'll probably keep, but Jalen Brown certainly

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Speaker 3: He's a terrific player, but is he really worth that money?

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Speaker 3: And clearly the Celtics are worried about money because what

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Speaker 3: you're just gonna pay this money of these guys and

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Speaker 3: future for our Celtics team. That's what the Celtics are doing.

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Speaker 3: They're figuring out their future.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, hey, Drew Holliday, maybe not for the next

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Speaker 1: that can score. I love this trade. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: does this work out for the Celtics all the time.

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Speaker 1: But that's Brad Stevens's a smart guy. That's a move

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Speaker 1: you make, right. This is but this era of the

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Speaker 1: Celtics is over. Dynasty talk is so st but it's

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Speaker 1: so irrelevant because, yeah, sometimes it does take one bad

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm not meaning the Josh kroncky. Hey

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Speaker 1: we could trade Nikola yokichiff if we have a bad injury. No,

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Speaker 1: this is we saw the injury happen and this sets

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Speaker 1: the Celtics back. And now Celtics you're looking at They're saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: Smoking mirrors this year, but we're looking at next year.

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Speaker 3: We're looking at twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, when

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Speaker 3: we can spend more money and try to figure out

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Speaker 3: how do we become a championship team again built around

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Speaker 3: Jason Tatum winning returns and whoever else we have left.

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Speaker 3: Like again, this era of the Celtics, this great erathing,

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Speaker 3: it's over. Yeah, the Kronky thing. I owe to a

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Speaker 3: little bit of the reaction to what happened in Boston

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Speaker 3: and not getting the full here's your bullet points. If

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Speaker 3: you're going to speak on these matters, Should these questions

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Speaker 3: we have a high priced Chris stops Porzingis, we have

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Speaker 3: McCalla or I'm sorry, we jettison Holiday and we take

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Speaker 3: on a contract that's lower that helps us out, and

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Speaker 3: then we've got a guy that's ten years younger that

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Speaker 3: we think is ascending to another level. Great. The trade

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Speaker 3: of Porzingis takes some fully out of that, so now

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Speaker 3: they're going to save some two hundred million dollars. And

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Speaker 3: it's about being pragmatic. It's about being smart of resetting

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Speaker 3: your roster. Why pay all that money into attacks to

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Speaker 3: be a middling team when when you're star your ace

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Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, if he plays, it's because he decides he

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Speaker 3: wants to get a few games in at the end

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Speaker 2: But for all.

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Speaker 3: Rational purposes, you're playing this season without him, and you

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Speaker 3: recognize that, and it's like, all right, what's the team

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Speaker 3: need to look like to get us the most flexibility

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Speaker 3: to build the best roster around him because he's still

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Speaker 3: Simons and you start to retool and give yourself financial

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Speaker 3: flexibility to do so. And we're gonna see a bunch

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Speaker 3: of other moves that do exactly that same thing. So

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Speaker 3: of that nonsense that goes to it, that's fine, right,

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Speaker 3: we're making the math add up and getting those deals made.

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Speaker 3: But for the dynastic talk, yeah, dynasties aren't one or

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Speaker 3: two seasons. Like we've totally bastardized what that term meant

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Speaker 3: the next It's like when we do the MVP talk,

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Speaker 3: we do the same thing with teams, trying to immediately

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Speaker 3: rank them against the Bulls, against the Lakers, against the

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Speaker 3: Burden McHale, Celtics and all of those things. Okay, see

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Speaker 3: he's got their one. That's great. Celtics got their one,

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Speaker 3: and now we look to what that next iteration is.

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Speaker 3: It'd be I think very interesting to hear the fan

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Speaker 3: because it seemed like he would be the face alongside Tatum,

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Speaker 3: but like I said before last season, there was talk

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Speaker 3: It's it's a really fine line that shows you how

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Speaker 3: fast things can happen. Right, But here's the other part

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Speaker 3: the same conversation, which is why it was such a

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Speaker 3: big deal. And the Lakers got sold for ten billion dollars, right,

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Speaker 3: Jeanie Bus and the Bus family sell the Lakers for

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Speaker 3: ten billion dollars. Now that the day that trade happened,

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Speaker 3: maybe things will get better. They'll certainly spend more money

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Speaker 3: because the Lakers were run like a mom and pop shop,

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Speaker 3: which it's sad to see that go away, But clearly

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Speaker 3: and you know what they have to pay for salary wise,

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Speaker 3: and money was always a thing, and we've hit that

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Speaker 3: point in sports. We're here in twenty twenty five where

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Speaker 3: you can't just be a millionaire and buy a team

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Speaker 3: and own a team. You have to have stupid money

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Speaker 3: see there being a cash reason for a team to

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Speaker 3: that person or that ownership group does not have enough

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Speaker 3: the hundreds of billions of dollars where hey, not that

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Speaker 3: it needs to be a rounding error, but okay, if

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Speaker 3: it's one hundred million dollar mistake, okay, I have so

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Speaker 3: much money from my other form, my other investments, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we can do that. Here. I bought the sports teams

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Speaker 3: to try to win. It's what I wanted to do.

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Speaker 3: It's something that's fun for me. Like, these are who

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Speaker 3: owners of sports teams need to be because you kids said, well,

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Speaker 3: they're so incredibly rich. No, they're not rich. Like the

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Speaker 3: guys needed to and the people needed to buy a team, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: look at it this way.

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Speaker 1: This is why I'm concerned for the Celtics. Right, Bill

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Speaker 1: Chisholm agreed.

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Speaker 3: To buy the team right from the grospects, right, and

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Speaker 3: they're waiting for everything to go through whatever. Six plus right,

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Speaker 3: six billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Right, he's still trying to get investors, right, he still

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Speaker 1: has to get approved, and it's not And and no

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Speaker 1: one knows just how much money he has or what

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Speaker 1: he's investing of this six point one billion. So this

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Speaker 1: So we are less than twenty four hours away from

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Speaker 1: that absolutely won't happen. Hey, sorry, sorry, we know he

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving contract extension with the Mavericks a few hours ago.

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Speaker 3: Man, how are you man?

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Speaker 1: So look, obviously you know we're looking to tomorrow and

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Speaker 4: pick and Cooper Flag is really a Maverick.

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Speaker 3: Is he going to be in a much better mood

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Speaker 3: than he was when the Kevin Durant trade was announced

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Speaker 3: during Fanatics fast Sunday morning.

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Speaker 4: Well, he wasn't visible, and you know after Silvern went

436
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Speaker 4: to Duke. So I think he's gonna be in quite

437
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Speaker 4: a skitty mood when he's when.

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Speaker 6: With the first pick in the twenty twenty five NBA Draft,

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Speaker 6: the Dallas Mavericks select Cooper Flag from Duke University. He

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Speaker 6: can't wait to say that.

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Speaker 1: Eli mark Stein, our guest here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So now that's gonna be you know, that'll be a

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Speaker 1: great part of the draft tomorrow night. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: something we're all talking about. But obviously getting into that,

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Speaker 1: we've already seen a slew of trades made already in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. The Celtics in the last twenty four hours

447
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Speaker 1: say goodbye to Drew Holliday, they say goobye to Chris

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Speaker 1: tops Porzingis are the Celtics done? Could Mornings be on

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Speaker 1: their way out of Boston the next couple of months?

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Speaker 4: Well, I know, I know, and you didn't say it tonight,

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Speaker 4: but I know because you introduced me to this show

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Speaker 4: almost every time by saying there's no one better to

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Speaker 4: talk to, even though even though I know you guys

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Speaker 4: would rather talk to Buker, I know you usually do

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Speaker 4: say that. I know, I know you guys read every

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Speaker 4: word that we publish at the Steinline, So I'm sure

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Speaker 4: you remember on May twenty eighth, a month ago, on

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Speaker 4: the Steinline, we wrote Jake Fisher and I this would

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Speaker 4: be the summer of trades, and we've already seen four

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Speaker 4: or five massive deals before the draft. I mean it

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Speaker 4: is it has been a trade frenzy. Look, Boston's big business,

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Speaker 4: I think is done. I don't foresee them getting the

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Speaker 4: kind of offer that it would take to pry loose.

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Speaker 6: Jalen Brown or Derrick White.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Brad Stevens is just this is this is

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Speaker 4: actually one of the most amazing stories in the league.

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Speaker 4: That's just what this guy was seen as a lifer coach.

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Speaker 6: He's been so good.

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Speaker 4: As an executive, and just everybody's known for months that

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Speaker 4: Boston was gone. Have to make moves like this, And

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Speaker 4: obviously the Tatum achilles tear is really you know, that's

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Speaker 4: a huge factor here because you know, if Boston wins

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Speaker 4: the championship, or at least if Jason Tatum isn't facing

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Speaker 4: the loss of a season due to an achilles rupture,

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Speaker 4: you know, Boston probably doesn't go to this extreme in

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Speaker 4: terms of you know, shedding salary and luxury tax.

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Speaker 6: But you know, they they have made to you.

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Speaker 4: Know, in quick succession, two trades that have you know,

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Speaker 4: sliced their luxury tax bill by nearly two hundred million,

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Speaker 4: and you know they've they've done some They've done some

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Speaker 4: pretty impressive business. I would never say the Celtics are done.

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Speaker 6: Because the phone will and that's that, and the phones

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Speaker 6: are just ringing like crazy all over the league.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, we called it the Summer of Trades

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Speaker 4: a month ago, and just look at what's.

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Speaker 6: Happened since, you know, June fifteenth.

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Speaker 4: Desmond Vane Kevin Durant, the Boston trades.

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Speaker 6: It's just on and on and on, you know, it

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Speaker 6: just and it's not over.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 6: It is by no means over.

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Speaker 3: So let's circle back to the Kevin Durant deal heads

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Speaker 3: to the planet Houston. How much better does it make them?

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Speaker 3: If it does it all?

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Speaker 4: The thing is, I really like it for Houston because

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Speaker 4: the Rockets were just uniquely suited to you know, I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't say they gave up.

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Speaker 6: You know nothing. Jalen Green is a former number two pick.

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Speaker 4: For all of his playoffs struggles against Golden State, he

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Speaker 4: had a thirty eight point game in that series. He's

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Speaker 4: still a very highly rated young player with a lot

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Speaker 4: of room to grow. Dylan Brooks was very effective as

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Speaker 4: a Rocket and he's going to bring that toughness that

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Speaker 4: Ishba has been talking about since the season ended, that

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Speaker 4: the Suns want and you know, the number ten pick,

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Speaker 4: it is a lottery pick. It's not, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: the true draft experts, and I'm not a true draft expert,

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Speaker 4: the true draft experts have been saying that this is

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Speaker 4: an eight player draft. So number ten isn't the greatest

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Speaker 4: pick on the board. But what I'm trying to say,

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Speaker 4: is Houston could surrender those three trade assets and it

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Speaker 4: doesn't hurt them at all. Like they have Aman Thompson

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Speaker 4: and tari Ethan to take over for Dylan Brooks.

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Speaker 6: They're not going to miss Jalen.

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Speaker 4: Green because they have three four five young players that

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Speaker 4: internally they probably rated higher than him in terms of

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Speaker 4: the way that the Rockets' front office approached this. And

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Speaker 4: you know that number ten pick, Okay, they gave that up,

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Speaker 4: but they still hold Phoenix's twenty twenty seven and twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty nine first and if the Suns continue to struggle,

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Speaker 4: I mean, those picks could be really valuable. So, I mean,

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Speaker 4: of all the teams that were kind of in the

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Speaker 4: mix for Durant, the Rockets were just uniquely set up.

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Speaker 4: They could give up two or three pieces to a

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Speaker 4: team that finished second in the West and it doesn't

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Speaker 4: really hurt them. And you know, we've been talking all

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Speaker 4: season long about the timeline concerns in Houston, the Rockets,

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Speaker 4: the Rockets. Basically during during the regular season, the Rockets

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Speaker 4: ruled out going for Kevin Durant because they took the

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Speaker 4: view that we want to give this young group a

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Speaker 4: chance to play see how they do on the playoff stage.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Durant's going to be thirty seven in September. We

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Speaker 4: don't want a player who is so much older than

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Speaker 4: all of our best players, who were all under twenty five.

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Speaker 4: But things changed in the playoffs. Houston was a number

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Speaker 4: two seed, lost the game seven at home. They struggled

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Speaker 4: offensively that whole series against Golden State, and it really

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Speaker 4: illuminated the need for a bucket getter like Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 4: and you know, Emo Udoka, the Rockets coach, is a

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Speaker 4: huge supporter and Durant Powell, so he was pushing for it.

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Speaker 4: So the Rockets. But the main thing is the Rockets

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Speaker 4: did it on their terms. And I think any other

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Speaker 4: team that might have gone for this, your Minnesota's, your Miami's,

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Speaker 4: your Toronto's, even San Antonio.

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Speaker 6: I think all those teams would have had to give up.

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Speaker 4: More than they were comfortable giving up. And you know,

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Speaker 4: Durant was also not really excited about going to all

548
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Speaker 4: those places, and that was another factor.

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Speaker 6: So I think the Rockets did really well here all right.

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Speaker 3: Lastly, Mark, you got to help me out with this

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Speaker 3: earlier today because obviously we see some teams that make

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Speaker 3: moves because of financial situations, which we understand. Look the Celtics,

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Speaker 3: you know they had financial situations with Holiday and Porzengis.

554
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Speaker 3: But then Josh Crocky today is starting talking about, hey,

555
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Speaker 3: you know, going to the first apron, second apron, and

556
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Speaker 3: he basically says, hey, you know, you know, a bad injury,

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Speaker 3: a bad signing, and I'm thinking about trading fifteen Nicola Jokic.

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Speaker 3: Why would you even say that.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why you would even throw that out there,

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Speaker 1: that something bad could happen enough today we might have

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Speaker 1: to trade Jokic at some point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, he didn't say it quite

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Speaker 4: like that. You are embellishing it just to touch, but

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Speaker 4: but yes, it was.

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Speaker 6: It was a statement that raised eyebrows all over the league.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Josh Cronky wishes he never even broached it

567
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Speaker 4: because it was completely unprompted.

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Speaker 6: And I have you know, his.

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Speaker 4: Dad has always been you know, Denver writers for years

570
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Speaker 4: were calling him silent stand because he would never speak

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Speaker 4: to the media. I mean, I got to give Josh

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Speaker 4: Cronky credit here. I mean, he's had three or four

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Speaker 4: press conferences since you know, since they you know, they

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Speaker 4: fired Calvin Booth and like them alone with three games

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Speaker 4: left in the regular season.

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Speaker 6: It's the latest in league.

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Speaker 4: History who we've ever seen a team bound for the

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Speaker 4: playoffs make a change like that, and it.

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Speaker 6: Was two changes. I mean, like I said, since then.

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Speaker 4: Kronky has done Josh has done three or four press conferences.

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Speaker 4: He's been incredibly available.

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Speaker 6: He's making all the.

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Speaker 4: Questions, which you know, again we don't always get in

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Speaker 4: today's NBA.

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Speaker 6: He's been, you know, very.

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Speaker 4: Accessible, and so I'm a little bit reluctant to criticize

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Speaker 4: him because he's been so available. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: that was uh, you know, I would say that was

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Speaker 4: an own goal.

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Speaker 6: And he is a soccer.

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Speaker 4: Guy, you know, he's the Kronky's on arsenal.

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Speaker 6: That was that was an own goal that I am.

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Speaker 6: I am sure he wishes he had that.

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Speaker 3: I got a Jokic graphics sent to me in a

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Speaker 3: Lakers uniform about three minutes after that audio shocker exactly.

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Speaker 4: He's on Twitter at the st Jason when Jason sent

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Speaker 4: you on went one with him in the Knick's UNIFO.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Cat and bridges for yokis right. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: make it happen. I'm gonna put it out there in

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Speaker 3: the universe.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Check him out at the Steinline. All the latest on.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving and his new deal with the Mavericks, what

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Speaker 1: it means for them going forward. Mark, I know it's

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Speaker 1: been a long day. Appreciated. Enjoy the draft tomorrow, night man.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Fun Rocky three best movie of the last fifty years,

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Speaker 4: hands down, See you guys later.

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Speaker 3: Bigger Mark.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Always great stuff from Mark Stahn, always great stuff. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Jason was the one that said no, no, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about Cat and Bridges.

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Speaker 3: Said to be in a Knicks unit. I could, I

615
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: could sell stand, I could sell Josh Cronky on Cat

616
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Speaker 3: and Bridges for you. Remember one of the other as

617
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Speaker 3: he did mention with the the X exorcism of their

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Speaker 3: front office when they got rid of Michael Malone and

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Speaker 3: Kevin Booth, Roggie stood up and he just said, hey, look,

620
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Speaker 3: we kind of knew we were going in this direction.

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Speaker 3: If we win a few games, is everybody mad at

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Speaker 3: us if we then do that? I got to appreciate

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Speaker 3: that he at least stood up for it then, even

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Speaker 3: though he put his foot in his mouth today.

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Speaker 1: Time now to find out what's trending in the wide

626
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Speaker 1: world of sports. From Man has been called the Stan

627
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Speaker 1: Kronky of Fox Sports Radio, if only because they both

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Speaker 1: have the same mustache, and is Steve Sager.

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Speaker 8: Building my own stadium? Surely say mustache? They share one, Yes,

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Speaker 8: they do. You've never seen both of them together, have

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Speaker 8: you at the same time? Actually, I've seen both of

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Speaker 8: them at a Rams Charger game.

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Speaker 5: No, we don't have access to where he walks sleep.

634
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 5: Let's get to the baseball at a moment, because everything's

635
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 5: final now. Wins for the Dodgers and Padres, but not

636
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 5: the Giants. That WNBA late game did go to Indiana

637
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 5: a win at Seattle ninety four to eighty six, but

638
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 5: not necessarily because of Caitlin Clark, her teammate Leah Boston

639
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 5: at thirty one points and Kelsey Mitchell scored twenty six.

640
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 5: Caitlin Clark from three point where range was zero for six,

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Speaker 5: she finished with six points in thirty one minutes on

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Speaker 5: the court. Clark had nine assists and eight turnovers. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: that disaster of a soccer game for El Salvador finished

644
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 5: on FS one Canada too. Nothing El Salvador played three

645
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Speaker 5: games in the Gold Cup tournament, got shut out in

646
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Speaker 5: all three, and tonight it took him almost seventy minutes

647
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Speaker 5: to even get a shot. Meanwhile, they committed nineteen fouls,

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Speaker 5: two red cards in the first half, a red card

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Speaker 5: on the bench at halftime on the way off the field.

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Speaker 5: Canada had eighty percent of the possession in the game.

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Speaker 1: This is like in Bad News Bears when Matthou says,

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Speaker 1: all right, Ogilvy, what what do we do?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: We did hit seventeen foul balls and Tanner was almost

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Speaker 1: safe on that ground ball.

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Speaker 5: The first Yeah, that's pretty much it. It just reminds

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Speaker 5: me of an expansion hockey team that's completely talentless. So

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Speaker 5: they just try and clutch and grab for sixty minutes

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Speaker 5: and see if they can win one nothing because there's

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Speaker 5: nothing else going on. As for Major League Baseball, the

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Speaker 5: late game in Anaheim went to the Angels in ten innings,

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Speaker 5: three two over Boston. What a night for first rounder

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Speaker 5: Christian Moore for in the University of Tennessee for the

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Speaker 5: Angels tonight, the tying solo homer in the eighth ruining

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Speaker 5: a great star from Garrett Crochet. He hit the game

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Speaker 5: winner two run shot in the tenth as well. Miami

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Speaker 5: a four to two win at San Francisco. The loss

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Speaker 5: to Justin Verlander, who's now zero and five. After his

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Speaker 5: five innings were tight, he was down three to nothing.

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Speaker 5: The Padres got to save from Robert Suarez and came back,

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Speaker 5: winning four to three over Washington. Pods were down three

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Speaker 5: to nothing early. Suarez reportedly will be suspended for two games,

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Speaker 5: not three, for hitting sho Hee Otani in La last week.

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Speaker 5: Oughtani at Colorado tonight. It is twenty seventh home run

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Speaker 5: of the season. The Dodgers were nine seven winners. The

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Speaker 5: Rockies record this season now eighteen and sixty one. Houston

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Speaker 5: b Philadelphia won nothing on an eighth inning homer. Atlanta

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Speaker 5: beat the Mets in New York seven to four. The

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Speaker 5: Mets offense went five for thirty one with fourteen strikeouts.

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Speaker 5: There's still a game and a half back of the

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Speaker 5: first place Phils in the NLS. The Mets have lost

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Speaker 5: ten of eleven and the Cardinals win was eight to

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Speaker 5: seven over the Cubs. Notable that it was a close

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Speaker 5: game because in the fourth the Cubs center fielder Pete

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Speaker 5: Crow Armstrong, who otherwise is having a great year. Forgot

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Speaker 5: how many outs there were, allowing a Cardinals runner to

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Speaker 5: tag up from second and score on a sacrifice fly

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Speaker 5: that made it eight five at the time, Cardinals eight

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Speaker 5: to seven over the Cubs. The final, Cincinnati in eleven

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Speaker 5: beat the Yankees Texas and ten innings won at Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: Seattle sent the Twins to a fifth straight loss. New

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Speaker 5: Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers says he's pretty sure this will

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Speaker 5: be his last season. The Celtics are trading Christaps Porzingis

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Speaker 5: to Atlanta in a three team deal. The Nets get

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Speaker 5: a first rounder and Terrence Man, who was born in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 5: Boston gets George Niang and a second rounder in twenty

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Speaker 5: thirty one. Niang, from Massachusetts. He averaged twelve points a

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Speaker 5: game for the Hawks last season. The Mavericks are giving

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Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving a new three year contract. He had surgery

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Speaker 5: in March for a torn acl and the New Orleans

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Speaker 5: Pelicans traded c J. McCollum to Washington for Jordan Poole

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Speaker 5: and Sadik Bay in a second round draft choice. The

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Speaker 5: NBA draft starts on Wednesday. The Nets now own five

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Speaker 5: selections in.

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Speaker 3: The first round. This week back to you. Thank you, Steve.

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Speaker 1: The Knicks are going to get those five picks to

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Speaker 1: give mckelbridges back.

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Speaker 3: So just an that's thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yes, five pixel from the same year.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next. Well, there is one high profile NBA

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I know who. It's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Doc Rivers to stop. It's not gonna be talk it is.

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Speaker 1: so uh look, getting ready for the draft tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I know who the Knicks head coach

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Speaker 1: is going to be. Now is last week when we

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Speaker 1: the next Knicks coach is going to be who? Who

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Speaker 1: would you get me? And he said Mike and Norry?

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Speaker 1: All right, t Wolves assistant who actually coached the playoffs

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Speaker 3: He's one of those late risers. What happened today the

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Speaker 3: Knicks interviewed Mike and Norriy to be their next head

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Speaker 3: coach and why it feels like he's going to be

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Speaker 3: the guy number one. He's the anti TIBs, right, he's

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Speaker 3: a players coach. He gained a lot of attention for

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Speaker 3: his fun in game interviews where he would say some

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Speaker 3: fun things talking about the team. Uh, he's got a

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Speaker 3: great defensive acumen strategy. You know, you've heard I've heard

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Speaker 3: a lot of coaches and experts talk about how Easy

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Speaker 3: breaks down defensive assignments and is able to get players

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Speaker 3: to buy into his philosophy. So that's something that's needed,

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Speaker 3: right obviously, But why do I think Mike and Nory

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Speaker 3: is going to be the next head coach. You just

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Speaker 3: interviewed the two guys who are your front runners last week? Right,

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins. These were your guys because

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Speaker 3: everybody else told you no, right, all the other teams said, no,

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Speaker 3: you can't talk to Jason Kidd, you can't talk to

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Speaker 3: quin Stott. You can talk to any of these people.

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Speaker 3: We're not giving you permission. Call the box. Who are you?

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Speaker 1: They would say, here, we'll drive Doc rivers to the interview,

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Speaker 1: and we'll wait for him outside in the car. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and if you hire them, let us know and I

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Speaker 1: can tell the driver to leave, because then you got

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Speaker 1: them from there. Right where we're done with Doc?

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Speaker 3: Uh? These are the two front runners, right, these are

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Speaker 3: two front runners, we thought, and so you talk to

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Speaker 3: them sometime last week. Didn't hear a lot about their interviews?

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Speaker 3: You would have heard it. They went unbelievably, well, hey,

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Speaker 3: the front runner seems to be Mike Brown, front run

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Speaker 3: seems to be Taylor Jenkins. But here you are five

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Speaker 3: days later and suddenly, yeah, we're talking to Mike and Nory.

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Speaker 3: Why is that the case? Right?

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Speaker 1: Clearly, Brown and Jenkins either didn't impress or remember Brown

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Speaker 1: interviewed with the job before when Shim's got it in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. So why are you going on talking to

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Speaker 1: Mike and Nory if this is if these guys are

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Speaker 1: because you don't want the clown car to show up

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Speaker 1: and say, because it's already been an awful search for

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Speaker 1: the Knicks, who we're told no by so many teams.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, here you are Mike and Nory, right, all

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Speaker 1: the stuff. He checks all the boxes again. Relationship with

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Speaker 1: Kat is awesome because now it seems like they're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep him and try to go forward. And you mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe he can unlock something defensively his offensive system. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've heard for people say hey, it would work.

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Speaker 3: With the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: Feels like he's the guy right all five days later

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Speaker 1: after the two after the two favorites, you interview him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got a feeling this is the next Knick, Yes,

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Speaker 1: next head coach.

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Speaker 3: After a decade. I don't know how much you're unlocking defensively,

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Speaker 3: but I like that theory. That's certainly great. Well, because

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Speaker 3: you have to unlock it. And Jalen Brunson, dude, because

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Speaker 3: he have a cheat code no, no, no, no, you know

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Speaker 3: you're not unlocking anything, and just don't get hurt. On

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Speaker 3: the perimeter that we put some like ankle bracelets on

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Speaker 3: that you can then control like a video game. They

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Speaker 3: make their feet work, don't get hurt. Those are their shoes.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're doing, like they're robots. All of that.

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Speaker 3: Which is interesting with Mike and Nory is that he

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Speaker 3: wasn't on the initial list for any of the odds right,

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Speaker 3: and we headed all the way down to stephen A.

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Speaker 3: Smith as the next head coach. Hell, I think Spike

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Speaker 3: Lee showed up at the back end of some of

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Speaker 3: those lists. But I don't think there's an issue with

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Speaker 3: exhausting all potential options and getting a lot of voices

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Speaker 3: and opinions of what needs to happen and what was seen,

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Speaker 3: unless you're you're thinking they're all going to come in

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Speaker 3: and lie to you. No, they actually want the job.

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Speaker 3: It pays millions of dollars, so they're going to come

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Speaker 3: in with constructive things based on what the roster is,

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Speaker 3: what your needs are, and how to move forward. And

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Speaker 3: you take each of those as well as those swings

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Speaker 3: at the guys that are employed that you think are

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Speaker 3: that much better? And now you go. And Mike and

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Speaker 3: Norry could very well be that guy in rhymes with

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Speaker 3: rock not happening, still potentially an option. Mike a Nori,

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Speaker 3: the actor Jason look here, don't make me do it?

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Speaker 1: Coming up next. Why Aaron Rodgers sounds like he's retired

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Speaker 1: already