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Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're doing a real deep dive here with

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Speaker 1: Lauren Lapis on episode number one oh seven. Grandma was

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Speaker 1: a rolling stone. This episode is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a doozy, so see beelt yourself in uh and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show, Lauren Lacus. Okay, so we see

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Speaker 1: Carrie Russell in the backyard and her mound of hair stunning.

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Speaker 1: Daniel unbel I thought, maybe they can't have to pay

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Speaker 1: in this episode because there's just too much hair, too

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Speaker 1: much from that would make too much hair in one episode.

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Speaker 1: I didn't remember. I don't I remember when Carrie Russell

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Speaker 1: then cut her hair when she was on Felicity and

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Speaker 1: it was a huge deal. It was the it was

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Speaker 1: But if I had that hair, I could take over

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Speaker 1: the world. That's like amazing hair. She just and she's

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Speaker 1: that's he must go out with her. You can't go

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Speaker 1: with her, and by the way, what a cute couple.

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Speaker 1: I know, cute. I remember almost nothing about her except

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Speaker 1: that she was so nice to me. I mean, she

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Speaker 1: could tell this was like my She'd been in the

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Speaker 1: business forever, she'd done a bunch of stuff. This was

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Speaker 1: like my sixth episode, and we would sit in between scenes.

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Speaker 1: I remember we would sit we were at the Disney

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Speaker 1: we talked about music and we talked about but I mean,

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Speaker 1: the whole week. And maybe that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: I was more relaxed during this episode. But I distinctly

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Speaker 1: just remember how nice a human being she was. She

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Speaker 1: was great. Did you have any sort of crush on her?

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Speaker 1: Of course I had a crush, She's Carrie Russell, but

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Speaker 1: I never liked, never tried to like hit on her

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Speaker 1: or do anything inappropriate. But it was But I mean

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Speaker 1: it's hard not Did she have somebody? I honestly I don't.

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Speaker 1: Did you have a girlfriend? Were you dating Nicki Cox

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Speaker 1: at this point? Maybe you may have been dating Nikki

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Speaker 1: been dating Nikki. I have no idea, and dating is

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Speaker 1: put in quotes, by the way, his fifteen year old dating. Um,

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Speaker 1: But but it was she was fifteen. I was um,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, it was. It was. She was just Yeah,

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Speaker 1: was like kind of running me through the what certain

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Speaker 1: things in the script meant, which we'll get into in

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Speaker 1: the later scene. I can't wait to see because she

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Speaker 1: get to that in a later scene. This incredible leap

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Speaker 1: twice badly. It was not this take, and Michael was like,

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Speaker 1: over and over and over again, and I could not

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Speaker 1: it because of me? I was He didn't think I

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Speaker 1: certain things. By the way, notice you can't understand what

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Speaker 1: So you watch me. I got I like make a laugh,

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Speaker 1: if you listen to that is the most Wilfordell moment.

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Speaker 1: It's so like that is the thing that Will do.

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Speaker 1: then you don't want to be gagging at someone that

428
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Speaker 1: you're kissing. It's like that's not that's not polite. So

429
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 1: Danielle really disgusting. It's like the idea, it's really it's

430
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Speaker 1: like it's actually gonna make me. It's gonna make me

431
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: gags because I know, I know, I know it really

432
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 1: is sick um. But it's disgusting that idea of like

433
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 1: a mouthful of fake spiff and then leaning in with

434
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 1: something in your mouth to kiss somebody. I know, because

435
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: you're holding it like you're like keep talking about it.

436
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: We don't need to keep talking about but I know

437
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: I've had to do a bunch of weird kisses or

438
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: like kisses where they're like make it a good one,

439
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: sort of where someone's like can you really do it

440
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 1: this time? And it's like okay, and then you look

441
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: at the other person like okay, and then you just

442
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: really do it. But it's like, geez, like, it's just

443
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: a weird job. It's a weird job. That's the thing

444
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: you're at work, you're at it's like, it's just it's weird. Yeah. Well,

445
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: Terry Russell was very, very nice and took my hand

446
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: and kind of I really appreciate that. And then when

447
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: I've definitely had situations where I've been so grateful for

448
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: extra communication and as I as I, you know, work

449
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 1: more and more, I feel like I get more confident

450
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: saying like here's how we're gonna do this and whatever.

451
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: But I definitely in the first time is doing that

452
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, didn't say anything and felt more like

453
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: I'm just going in my own little world as we

454
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: prepare for this moment and then we have to do it,

455
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: and you know, so it's strange to me. We've talked

456
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: about a little, but it's very strange that in the nineties,

457
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: kissing on a kids TV show was a totally normal thing,

458
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: and now it does not seem to be the case. Right,

459
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: like family sitcoms I don't think have this component. Why

460
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: is that? I mean, because it's not like we've gotten

461
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: more conservative, is it? Is it because we've actually gotten

462
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: like there's more access to porn, so like we don't

463
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: like people don't like you watch a kids show, you

464
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: don't need to watch people kissing. You can go find

465
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: that somewhere else when kids can find it, and there's

466
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: so many shows that are beyond their age. It's because

467
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: the accessibility of that kind of content has been like

468
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: completely enabled, right culturally, like we can find if if

469
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: kids want to find watch people kissing, I guess you

470
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: can search for that, right so on. But back then,

471
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: it seems like you were servicing the idea of like

472
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: like all being slightly luscifious, like like having to be

473
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: a little sexy, and that was like part of the

474
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: who But now that we just seem out of place,

475
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: like it's I'm not watching the show for that, you know.

476
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's because it was like t G

477
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: I f if you think of that, like families gathering

478
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: around to watch, so you want to give something for everyone.

479
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: It's like there might be the seventeen year old kids

480
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: sitting there, there might be an eight year old, there

481
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: might be a data mom and or whatever. So it's

482
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: like that. It was like you're pleasing a bunch of

483
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: different audiences in one show, which we don't really before.

484
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. It's it's there's no more,

485
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: for lack of a better phrase, in between shows, it's

486
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: either Disney Channel or it's um, you know a family show,

487
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: like like, um, what was the Modern Family? It's like

488
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: the idea where it's kind of like in between now.

489
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: So just like Lauren saying where it's like kind of

490
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: teenagers making him out on Modern Family, well, you know,

491
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: they take it even farther. They talk about sex and

492
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: she got predic to talk about it. But do you

493
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: watch people? Yes, there was there was an episode where

494
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: you know that you walk in and the parents were

495
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: in we might have to dug this we're in, I

496
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: mean like literally, Okay, It's like it's like so it's

497
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Speaker 1: one of those things where I guess that's on a show.

498
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's on a television show. I wouldn't believed

499
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: you without the description. I believed you when you said that, yes,

500
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: they go there. But can I throw another suggestion or

501
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: another idea that maybe is there a possibility? And maybe

502
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: this is just my hopeful, wishful thinking, but like, is

503
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: there a part of it that also is about that

504
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: the people writing the content are now uncomfortable asking real

505
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: twelve because I know that when I do think that's

506
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: a part of it, because I know that when I

507
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: have been on sets, the conversation around well, we would

508
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: never ask a child to do that, well, we would

509
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: never have. We would never like, we're not doing that

510
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: because that's an uncomfortable thing to ask any fourteen year

511
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: old to do? Is now? And they weren't asking that,

512
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: They weren't asking that question. We were actors. It didn't

513
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: matter whether or not we were uncomfortable or comfortable with it.

514
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: Whatever the writer wrote is what you. You did, and

515
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: you were made to feel that if you did have

516
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: some if something did make you uncomfortable, it was inappropriate

517
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: for you to express that. You weren't really supposed to say,

518
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to do this, I

519
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: don't want to feel comfortable. You're a prop as an actor,

520
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: basically you say the words that we do what's written

521
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: on this page, no questions asked. Having autonomy as a

522
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: child actor is very difficult, you know. You you you

523
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: start to believe that if you if you stand up

524
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: for yourself or do or do not want to do something,

525
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: or do or do not want to say a certain

526
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: line a certain way or whatever, you feel like you're

527
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: making waves and you feel like you're part of a problem,

528
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: and it's and so unhealthy, you know, And I, you know,

529
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: I just started not listening. I mean, you were always

530
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: in front of me at the notes session because I

531
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: would always go I'd get notes and I go okay, okay,

532
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: and you guys would joke with me later like you

533
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and Ben would walk by and go like okay, okay,

534
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: knowing that what I was actually doing was was just

535
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: going all right, and then I'm going to do it

536
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: however the hell I want to do it, and that's

537
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: just what it's going to be. So that, I mean,

538
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: that was there's a great kind of freedom in that

539
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: where it's like, at the end of the day, I'm

540
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: the one standing in front of the camera. So unless

541
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna walk out onto the set and move my mouth.

542
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it the way I want to

543
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: say it, um, which which some. But in the meantime,

544
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: we're going to keep you after the show is over

545
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: and keep doing this scene over and over and over again.

546
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: So so will for what you're saying is like you

547
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: were in a battle of wills and they were going

548
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: to keep going until you made But that came later

549
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: that the oak just saying okay and doing it my

550
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: own way probably wasn't until about fourth or fifth season.

551
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: I mean that was like later in the day where

552
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I got this now, and so I'll

553
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: listen to your notes, but I'm gonna do it the

554
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: way that I want to do it, um. And that

555
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: was I got that from Bill and Rusty, And when

556
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: you saw when they got notes, they were like all right,

557
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: and then they go and rehearse and it was like,

558
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: let's really blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

559
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: And so there was like the power grab. I don't

560
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: even wasn't even a power grab. It was just trying

561
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: to balance it again where it was just kind of like, okay,

562
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: we're not We're past the point of just put the

563
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: words in my mouth? Um, which was which is crazy? Hey,

564
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: this is Bobby Brown and I'm relaunching my podcast The

565
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: Important Things. What's important to me is everything from how

566
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: to live my life, how to run my biss business,

567
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: what to do if I feel anxious, what to do

568
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: if I'm overwhelmed. Certainly I will tackle a lot of

569
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: the issues about getting older. I will tackle with curiosity

570
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the issues about what should we be eating,

571
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: because everyone tells us something different and I'm just curious

572
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: how other really busy, interesting women get things done. My

573
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: first episode is Giada de Laurentis, who is adorable and

574
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: gave such great information. Talked to Jenna Elfman, Gabby Reeese.

575
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, the woman knows everything. Talk to

576
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Jillian Michael's and that's going to be a great one.

577
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: I hope that you will come along for the ride

578
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: because it's been really fun to do this. So listen

579
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: to the Important Things with Bobby Brown wherever you listen

580
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: to podcasts. Okay, so we have Sean comes in wearing

581
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: a funny hat. Yeah, now that's where I can trime in. Now, Okay,

582
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: if we are really going to get to that, what's

583
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: up with the hat, the best hat. That's three but

584
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: the hat is like it's three's you know. They were

585
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: just like let's let's let's let's say they went fishing

586
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: as boldly and it was like, yeah, it was movie,

587
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: it was. This is actually a very I would say

588
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 1: this scene is one of the most sitcommun scenes evert

589
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: from start to finish, like all the wooze, the kissing,

590
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: the jokes themselves, Eric the lipmaster. This feels like this

591
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: feels like the show Boy Meets World was most of

592
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: the time, not do you know what I mean? This

593
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: is like, this is us kind of failing to distinguish

594
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: ourselves from pretty mainstream, like not great sitcoms. This is

595
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: like joke, joke, joke, me and and he so yeah,

596
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: it was like of course, of course, like yeah, it

597
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: congratulating him on kissing her. But I did get a

598
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: laugh from Corey at the end, like you kissed of

599
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Phoenie or of these days swap spit with a phenie

600
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: with It was categorizing her as you know, I know,

601
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: I know, categorizing her as like a phenie. That was

602
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: just great because it's act she's so cute. It's like

603
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: that's just a funny way it is. It was a

604
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: funny way of thinking about it, calling her a phenie.

605
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: It's really cute. So this is the first reference to

606
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: Sean eating so much. Did you guys catch that? Actually

607
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: did write it in? Because we talked about on the show,

608
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm always eating and scenes, and this was it was

609
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: actually written in, So I guess it was a character.

610
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: It was the character saying that you probably were not

611
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: eating at home and so everywhere you were, Yeah, you

612
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: were always eating. But going back to you being the

613
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: most adjusted actor already, you actually ate in scenes. And

614
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: I mean to the point where all actors. When I

615
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: was literally maybe an hour before we came on this

616
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: podcast watching an episode of Sopranos, and these amazing, multi

617
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: award winning actors are pushing their food around with the

618
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: good man. That's what good acting is. But when you

619
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: really go some times it really works. Like I was

620
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 1: just watching something I can't remember what it was, and

621
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: it was a more recent thing and the girl was like,

622
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean all these donuts and I was like, no,

623
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: she's not. And then she's still there with a donut

624
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: and she literally picked off a corner of a think.

625
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: I was like, show don't out in your mouth. I'm

626
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: gonna need you to shove in your mouth like you

627
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: actually ate. And they're all all these shows. We just

628
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 1: when you push around the food with your fork. Agree.

629
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: I like to see people eating. I really do. It's great.

630
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: Well maybe maybe I would agree with you, but I

631
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: have PTSD from you and it makes you sick. I mean,

632
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: I've definitely gone for it. Like I was on the

633
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: show Good Girls and I had to eat some donuts

634
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: and shove them in my mouth as part of my

635
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: character being like sloppy, and I just kept going. But

636
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: by the end I was like spitting them out and

637
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: like it was just just getting disgusted. It's like, you know,

638
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: you can commit to a point, but true, it's the

639
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: it's the push around in the fork shake. The fork

640
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: shake is big. You put one piece of food on

641
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: the fork and you shake it over the plate as

642
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: if that is fake eating. And it's as you're doing

643
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: your line, you're just shaking your fork. That is a

644
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: common one. The mood of the four. Yeah, it's very strange,

645
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: but right are you always eight? Very impressive? So Corey

646
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: tells Alan he didn't go to Baltimore with Grandma because

647
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: she didn't show up. And then we move into the

648
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: kitchen and there are hundreds of muffins everywhere and Alan

649
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: tries them and says they're a little dry. He says

650
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: he's been in Corey's shoes before with grandma not showing up,

651
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: and he tells a story about Grandma not turning in

652
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: his permission slip in school so he couldn't go on

653
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: a school field trip. And so we go. We go

654
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: from the least boy meets World seeing to the most

655
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: world you know what I mean, Like this is what

656
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: made the show special Rusties performance, giving this monologue, the

657
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: casualness of them just setting down and having this without

658
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: like the special music playing, like you were saying, like

659
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: there is there's an effortlessness to this scene. And it's

660
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: it's diffusing, right, it's diffusing all the tension. It's telling

661
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Corey like you're spinning out, dude, Like you're just being

662
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: a kid right now. And and I'm going to tell

663
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: you this life lesson, but it's going to be relaxing.

664
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like you're in trouble. It's

665
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: not like any you know anything, anybody did anything wrong.

666
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: This is just life, kid, And that it's like such

667
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: a great tone. It's also not from Phoenie, which I like,

668
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: we don't get a lesson from Poenie at all in

669
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: this episode. It felt like the kind of lesson that

670
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: I wish more people gave, do you know what I mean? Like,

671
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not something that you hear very often.

672
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: Um Like, I just think a lot of shows would

673
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: have made that a big dramatic, sad thing that his

674
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: grandma's like this. Maybe when she comes back in they

675
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: have like a heart to heart and she explains why

676
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: she's like this or something, And it was just more

677
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: like he got to kind of accept it, and he

678
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: just and he accepted it really well, like he just

679
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: was like, okay, yeah, not to be the person who

680
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: always has like the therapy background on the whole thing. Please.

681
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: I think the thing that is the most interesting to

682
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: me about this scene is that it's all about p

683
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: o V. And we regularly tell ourselves stories about our lives,

684
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: and Alan could have very well and he would have

685
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: been correct if his p o V had been my

686
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: mom always abandoned me. When I needed my mom, she

687
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: wasn't there, and in big important moments in my life,

688
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't count on her. That's a p o V.

689
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: That's a p o V from his experience he could

690
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: have had. It's the same po V Corey could have. Now,

691
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: my grandmother made me a promise about something I was

692
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: so excited about, and when I trusted her, she let

693
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: me down, or the same exact situation from just a

694
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: different p o V. A different story we could tell

695
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: ourselves is Grandma is flawed, and sure, she may not

696
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: be there after she's promised to be there. But on

697
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: the other hand, the moments when she's made it up

698
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: to me, the other moments when she is there for

699
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: me are so salient to me because they were so special.

700
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: And that my mom wasn't watching the you know, the

701
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: the takeoff, she was watching me, and I knew she

702
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: was watching me, and I knew, yes, that was good,

703
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: Like it's it's it's great, it's it's a great description

704
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: and you know it's not and I would I would

705
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: just add it's also redirecting to the relationship versus a

706
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: a very specific experience, right, Like I'm not going to

707
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: hold on to one memory, I'm going to hold onto

708
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: this relationship ongoing. Like I could hold a grudge or

709
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: I could just let that one go because I know

710
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: there's another one coming that that's going to be great.

711
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: And so it's it's redirecting from you know, this one

712
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: specific memory or this one loss to you it's better

713
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: to have a relationship with this person in the long run.

714
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: And I can't love people in slices. You take the

715
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: whole thing or you don't. Yeah, And there will be

716
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: conflict in every relationship. There will be conflict. And it

717
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that person is bad or that relationship

718
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: is necessarily bad. It's just that there will be conflict

719
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: and there will be moments of being let down in

720
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: every relationship. And and it it doesn't need to be

721
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: you can tell it. You can tell a story to

722
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: yourself that could make it way worse than it is,

723
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: or you could tell the story to yourself that's much

724
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: more like, this is the person, These are their flaws,

725
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: and I love them anyway, and here are some great

726
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: things about them. I just it was like it was

727
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: I just thought it was a very well thought out

728
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: p o V for them to have, not only just

729
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: to see how well established and like, what a what

730
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: a great well rounded person Alan is, but also that

731
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: that's the story he's going to pass on to Corey

732
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: about his grandmother instead of you know, your Grandma's gonna

733
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: let you down a lot. Yeah, I really every time

734
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: we watched these shows now, I really wish I had

735
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: understood how good Rusty was when we were doing these episodes.

736
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: I know he's so good, and I wish I thought

737
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: about something I thought about earlier when we were talking

738
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: about Betsy. Um uh. Something that happens on a sitcom

739
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: set often is uh, you everybody gets so obsessed with

740
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: the jokes, with the comedy, with the beats, it starts

741
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: to become who's getting the biggest laughs, who's getting you know,

742
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: And not like in a bad way. It's mostly supportive.

743
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: It's mostly like, oh my god, did you see what

744
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Will is doing this week? Do you see what Ben's

745
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: doing this? And we would be we would be aware

746
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: of the sort of bigger swings that people are taking

747
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: comedy wise, that we would totally as a community overlook

748
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: the more subtle, basic performances that somebody like Betsy is

749
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: doing in this episode, which is just as hard, by

750
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: the way, but I bet you more than anything, Betsy

751
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: was probably disappointed as an actor often that she didn't

752
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: get more laughs, that she wasn't being written a better role,

753
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: because when you're on a sitcom, you keep thinking, where

754
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: am I going to get my chance to like get

755
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: a joke in or you know, get a laugh or

756
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: have a whole episode about me. But the reality is

757
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: she's wonderful in this episode. She's very small part, but

758
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: she's wonderful. And same with like Rusty. I feel like

759
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: we probably just breezed over this scene in our minds

760
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: because it wasn't like as funny as you throw in

761
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: the bag, you know, so like that, like what will

762
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 1: we talk about the next week? We're not sitting around

763
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: going Rusty is monologue and you know, you just totally

764
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: take it for granted. But the reality is it's genius

765
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: because it's so understated, so simple, so believable, and in

766
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: this could have been so cheesy in the hands of

767
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: a wrong actor, like it's a it's a monologue on

768
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: a sitcom. When he nails it, he just one of

769
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: the things I was thinking about, which is interesting, And

770
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: again I don't know why my mind went to this place.

771
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: Was they easily could have made it Betsy's mom and

772
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: given Betsy a better role this week oh yeah, Like

773
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: it could have been Betsy giving the lesson. It could

774
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: have been Betsy giving the monologue, because because now Alan

775
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: has done that in a number of episodes, and it

776
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: easily could have been an episode where they really left character.

777
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: They were, ye, they were very focused on that would

778
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: have been good. Yeah, it would have been great, and

779
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: it would have it would have actually, you know, taken

780
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: Betsy's character to the next level. But it was Alan again,

781
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: which again he nailed it, of course, but that went

782
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: through my head, was like, break the Betsy character here,

783
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: break the Amy character here, and they just didn't. The

784
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: answer is, I think a lot of male writers and

785
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: a lot of boy p o V and the that

786
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: boy on our show, the boy p o V was

787
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: very heavy, heavily reliant on his relationship with his father

788
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: more so than teacher, and his male teacher and his

789
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: hand and you know what that is what it is.

790
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why that hit me, but I was like, man,

791
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: I would have broken the Amy character. Yeah, okay, I

792
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't really want to break this open,

793
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: but man, it felt like a sideyard. Okay, I was

794
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: going to bring it up. I don't want to. I

795
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: didn't want to get into a fight with anyone here.

796
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, where are the mums? Where's the car? Well, okay,

797
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 1: the same thing. There got a lot of questions about

798
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: how she pulled up and came in. Did you say

799
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: that when she ran she ran out? And did I

800
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: thought if she went to the right downstage, you know,

801
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: toward camera, that then it could have been a side yard,

802
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: like that's where she pulled up, because he's talked about

803
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: the moms being right there in the area where we

804
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: do those scenes over the fence. But instead she ran

805
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: toward the back the treehouse, free house. She ran upstage

806
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: toward the treehouse, which makes all that means that her

807
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: car was probably either in the front of Penny's house,

808
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: like further to exactly, like maybe there's a driveway that back, yes,

809
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: camera right, Okay. I always thought it was a sideyard

810
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: my life, Okay, and then I but I was like,

811
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this episode, I'm gonna see I'm gonna

812
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: try to do the math on this. Listen. The truth

813
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: is it's a very weirdly designed set up because the

814
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: writer says the front door of the Matthews house where

815
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: Rue McClanahan walked into thunderous applause is directly opposite that

816
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: back door, which means that is a backyard. However, there

817
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: are also double doors in the living room that go

818
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: out to somewhere, So what does that go out? And

819
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm picturing, so like when I'm picturing, looking at it,

820
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: just as like my brains just filling it in. It's

821
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: like I'm seeing I'm looking from the front, right, that's

822
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: what you think, right, But they're looking from the front

823
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: of the house, right, like my brains filling in that wall.

824
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: That makes sense because they're coming in. But I also

825
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: know many people use the side door to enter their home,

826
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: so it's like this is not uncommon, so maybe front

827
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: door it feels like a front it's red. Yeah to me,

828
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: it's also to me it just in my head. Maybe

829
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: it's an East Coast thing, you know, different than a

830
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: West Coast thing. But are we never call somebody who

831
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: lived behind us our neighbor. It's like I live next

832
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: to my teacher, he's my neighbor. That to me, everybody everyone, Okay,

833
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: Never it's always like, oh no, they live behind us,

834
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: or they're my neighbor. That's always how we would say it.

835
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: This episode kind of changed it for me where I

836
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: was like, it's a backyard, but I was also wanting

837
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: to defence ever get higher. I was so surprised a

838
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: byt Hello. Defence was the whole time there the whole time, right,

839
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: it was they wanted an intimate neighborly relationship. It really

840
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: is also a tiny backyard. I mean that's if that's

841
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: the backyard, it's that's true. Yeah, I think it's let's

842
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: let's be honest. It's the nineties. It was whatever was

843
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: convenient in the moment. We were ruying anything. So um,

844
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: we get this amazing scene. We get this amazing scene

845
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: with with Alan and Corey, and then the Winnebago shows

846
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: up again. We hear lakukaracha. Grandma comes in and tells

847
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: Corey that something came up. He says it's okay that

848
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 1: they didn't go. Eric then runs in and says, quick, dad,

849
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Speaker 1: if Phoenie comes in here, I've been in my room

850
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: for the last twenty minutes. Sure enough, Phoenie comes walking

851
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: in and he says that Eric and his hormones need

852
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: to stay inside the house. And Grandma stands up and

853
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: and says, I will vouch that he's been in his room,

854
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: and um, Phenie says, well, that's impossible because your car

855
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: just ran over my mom's and that's pretty much the end.

856
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: She runs out to go, I guess what, run over

857
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: more of hers more. She wants to run over more

858
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: more of the moms. Yeah. I would love to have

859
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: seen some type of real scene, not just that, but

860
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: like a real scene between Bill Daniels and Rue McClanahan,

861
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: I know, just old school actors, Like some scene of

862
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: just the two of them, to me would have been awesome.

863
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: I wonder what their relationship was. I wonder if they

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00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: knew each other before. I don't know, just knowing the

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Speaker 1: how small Hollywood is, especially back then, I wouldn't be

866
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: surprised if they had worked together and knew each other.

867
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: But that seemed like a missed opportunity for me. And

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Speaker 1: I understand that it's a kid show and you know,

869
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: two older people on some might not whatever, but that

870
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: to me as an actor, I was like, man, I

871
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: would love to have seen them, you know, something more

872
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: than what their characters would have been good with each

873
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: other because she was like three wheeling and having fun.

874
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: That's why I wondered After watching that, I was like,

875
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if she was supposed to be recurring, and

876
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: like I wonder why that didn't happen because she was

877
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: such a great character. She could have gone at odds.

878
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, she could have been at odds with anybody

879
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: on the show, So I wouldn't be surprised if they tried. Yeah,

880
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's one of those negotiation things, like she

881
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: paid a certain amount and then she was like, I'm good.

882
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm good. Then our tag Corey and Shaun around the bed,

883
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: admiring Corey's baseball card the grandma got him from a

884
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: swap meat, and Sean says that his grandma must really

885
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: love him because that car card is about a hundred

886
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars, and Corey realizes that it's possible she

887
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: killed a man in Reno just to watch him die. Um.

888
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: This made me laugh though, because anyone who knows right

889
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: or strong, the idea that he has baseball card knowledge

890
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 1: at his fingertips is so not rider that I would

891
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: have had at this point. I would have had garbage

892
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: pale kid knowledge. That was the only card I ever collected,

893
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: as I had a big garbage pale kid collection. I

894
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: organized it. I thought it would be worth money. Someday

895
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: it probably would be worth money, and I can't find

896
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: it no way where it was. They are actually worth it,

897
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: They are right. I should have kept them. And then

898
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Magic the Gathering cards came later, not at this point,

899
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: but I would have been collecting magic within no, wait,

900
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: at this point, it probably was already. It was probably

901
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: by then, yeah, because I know I was an unlimited

902
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: I bought. I bought my first paxtor an unlimited Magic

903
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: the Gathering. So if somebody wants to backdate that and

904
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: find out, um, so I would have been playing magic.

905
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: This was November of ninety three. I think I was

906
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: already playing magic, all right. Anyway, those are the cards

907
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: I would have cared about. That was so funny, Rider

908
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: talking like, no, this card cal Ripken. He had to

909
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: look up what cal Ripken even was. Writer, your hair

910
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: is glorious in this scene. It's really got a lot

911
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: going on. I was like, actually pretty surprised by it

912
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: because I felt like I remembered it more as a

913
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: straight mushroom situation, but it had like death and coral

914
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: and it's really where I noticed they straightened his hair

915
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: with the round brush and it was so shiny. It

916
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 1: was it was really and it was long. I felt

917
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: like maybe you needed a hair cut here, but it

918
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: looked great. Yeah, it's really it was really classics. It

919
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: was really great. Well, Lauren, Um, I'm so thankful that

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00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: you were here with us this week. And where can

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00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: we find you? Where can we watch you? Also? I

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00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: want to talk to you really briefly. You have an

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00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: animated show coming up, right, Crimes? Can you tell us

924
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? It's really fun. It's um, it's me

925
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: and Nicole Buyer, who is one of my good friends

926
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Speaker 1: and also is just so Hilarious's also the host of

927
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Nailed It if people watch that on Netflix. But um,

928
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: she's on five trillion shows. I think she had five

929
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: billboards unventur at the same time. Recently. I was like,

930
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: this is not fair, what's happening? Um, But she deserves it.

931
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: But we are it's like a it's like a send

932
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: up at like SVU and stuff like that. So it's

933
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: like we're detectives solving crimes, but we're really raunchy and

934
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: like you know, nasty women. It's really fun. Um can

935
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: see you? Where can we find you? Tell us your socials?

936
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: Give us all that information. You can find me on

937
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Lauren lap Kiss and my podcast

938
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: Threedom and Newcomers that I do with Nicole Buyer, where

939
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: we watch things we've never seen. We've been covering all

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00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: of the Marvel cinematic universe and mercifully it's coming to

941
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: an end soon and I cannot wait so much. Yeah. Yeah,

942
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: we watched twenty watched twenty movies. Um, there's twenty seven though,

943
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: so we're not watch really did you watch them in

944
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: chronological or or release date? Chronology or release date? Yeah,

945
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: not chronological, So I'm sure there's back. Yeah, there's a

946
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: whole formula for starting with Captain America. You're gonna have

947
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: to go back and do it again. Then, okay, good,

948
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: you're a fan, you love that stuff. I mean, I'm

949
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: getting into it. I'm I'm finding a lot of joy

950
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: um where I can. But I'm so glad my son

951
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: hates all things Marvel and that has just made my

952
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: life so much easier. We did Star Wars for an

953
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: episode and I was like, if I have children who

954
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: love Star Wars, I guess at least I'll know what

955
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: this is now because I've been avoiding my entire life

956
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: and I'm afraid but you had never seen the original

957
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: Star Wars New Hope, so you really were more of

958
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: a TV kid huh yeah, oh yeah yeah, and there's

959
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: a fantasy yeah. Um. But anyways, so yeah, those are

960
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: my podcasts and then I don't know, you can just

961
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: watch me on random show Good Girls all streaming on Netflix,

962
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed being on that show. And my

963
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: movie The Wrong Missy it's on Netflix. And that's that's it.

964
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens next. You're just You're so talented

965
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: and I love you and I love being a mom

966
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: of you with you me too. Lauren has the cutest

967
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: baby girl who's about to be one. I still need

968
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: to rspp to your party. We're coming. Oh yeah, oh

969
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: good great? Um yeah, and you have the cutest children

970
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: in the world. And it's been so great having you

971
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: guide me in so many moments with new baby. Oh

972
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: my god, it's crazy babies. Alright, Well, um, thank you

973
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Speaker 1: for listening. You can follow us at Pod Meets World

974
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: Show on Instagram. You can email us your thoughts at

975
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: Pod Meets World Show at gmail dot com. And also

976
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: we've got merch We've got t shirts. At pod meets

977
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: World Show dot com. There are I think three shirts

978
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: that you guys can get. Lauren, you let me know

979
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: which one is your favorite. We'll make sure we get

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Speaker 1: you assured. And uh yeah, and Lauren, you know, also,

981
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: just thank you so much for this. Was your idea

982
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: for us to start this podcast, and it's really when

983
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: out there a few years ago after that con, I

984
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: was like, you know, people don't know that, but it

985
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: was really Lawren's idea. So thank you for this, and um,

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Speaker 1: you're so welcome and I'm so glad you're doing it

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00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: and my royalties. Yeah, but now to the audience, we

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00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: love you all. Pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is an

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Speaker 1: I heart podcast produced and hosted by Daniel Fishel Wilfred

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00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: l and Ryder Strong Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman.

991
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor,

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Speaker 1: Tara sup Boch, producer Lorraine Vierez, Engineering boy meets World

993
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle

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Speaker 1: Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram at pod Meats

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