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Speaker 4: You understand that's what they called my nigga this weekend
Speaker 4: when we was out of town. They was like the
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Speaker 1: Right, just normal dude that don't figure some stuff out.
Speaker 4: They was like, ship nigga, you you original? You a
Speaker 4: rigid you know when you originate some shit, they want
Speaker 4: to put that old ghit. They don't never get the
Speaker 4: mother fucking money though. I don't want to be the
Speaker 4: nigga that's the originator or nothing. Hey, but you know
Speaker 4: what the talk of the time when he was right now, Dog,
Speaker 4: this Kendrick and this Drake record, Dog, I don't heard
Speaker 4: everybody in them. Mama don't have an opinion on it.
Speaker 4: Did you get to hear the record?
Speaker 1: No, man, I haven't listened to it. It's one of
Speaker 1: them things bro to where when I first heard it,
Speaker 1: I had to go back and give it another list.
Speaker 1: And it's tight. He's saying a lot of stuff in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a real detailed type of cat. So
Speaker 1: it's really detailed, and it's a lot of stuff that
Speaker 1: you could mess around or pass right over if you're
Speaker 1: not paying attention.
Speaker 4: It's not nobody doing the AI verse, you know. Ain't
Speaker 4: nobody doing the AI verse?
Speaker 1: You did? All this stuff really came with three different
Speaker 1: beat changes, it was hard. I called the Homie Man.
Speaker 1: We got the Homeboy Ken crooking here. You know, I
Speaker 1: wanted to have you gonna hear because you know me
Speaker 1: and you talk a lot off record, Crook, So I
Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on this stuff too.
Speaker 3: You know, well, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man. So I saw everybody had an opinion. I
Speaker 1: saw my man Gilly, who we just met this weekend
Speaker 1: for the first time. He came out and said that
Speaker 1: the record was corny. And for the record, everybody is
Speaker 1: entitled to have their own opinion. That man is entitled
Speaker 1: to have his opinion. But if I had a record
Speaker 1: called the Chicken Man, I wouldn't have shit to say.
Speaker 1: If I had a record in my if I had
Speaker 1: a record in my vault called the Chicken Man, I
Speaker 1: would just stay neutral. Dog who has a record called
Speaker 1: the Chicken Man. Gilly got a record called Chicken Man.
Speaker 4: So you want to poke at you want to poke
Speaker 4: on Gilly right now, that's what you want.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, actually, Gilly, you know I like
Speaker 1: what they're doing. We ain't got no podcast beef. He
Speaker 1: got a right to have his opinion. But I'm just saying, though,
Speaker 1: if I had a record called I don't know how
Speaker 1: much corny corny you can get. The Chicken Man, Uh,
Speaker 1: the chicken Man in reference to what though drugs.
Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, so that's the chicken man. Mac Tin
Speaker 4: called himself the Chicken Hawk.
Speaker 1: But mac Tin will running around no videos with no
Speaker 1: chicken wings in his pocket, and shit, why are you
Speaker 1: poking that gift? While you know he got a right
Speaker 1: to have his opinion.
Speaker 4: I mean, I haven't listened to the song. It's dope uh,
Speaker 4: dope in in in the opinions of hudo because some
Speaker 4: dudes who are hip hop, they're gonna feel like you know,
Speaker 4: Kendrick's one of those those rappers who's not the average rapper.
Speaker 4: A lot of dudes are looking for a hip hop song.
Speaker 4: Like I said, sometimes when when when you're getting outside
Speaker 4: of the realm of music and you want to become
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: Shit, it's a lot to process.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, like I don't know, I may be listening
Speaker 4: to maybe thirty seconds of it. Like I said, Kendrick
Speaker 4: is one of those dudes. You feel me hear what
Speaker 4: as you have said?
Speaker 1: Listen because he'll say some stuff like the line he
Speaker 1: said about Jay Prince and them when we said our park,
Speaker 1: his son said, the mixture running the family with our park.
Speaker 1: His son. I was just like, man, this dude is
Speaker 1: a rapping motherfucker, And I think, quick, you know, you're
Speaker 1: one of those guys man that really paying a lot
Speaker 1: of attention to your lyrical detail, right right. Do you
Speaker 1: think that's being lost on the cult or somewhere people
Speaker 1: actually going back and listening to stuff before they pass
Speaker 1: judgment on it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And everybody want to jump in on an algorithm.
Speaker 5: You know, it's the conversation, it's hot, it's the topic
Speaker 5: of the day, So they listen to it real quick,
Speaker 5: and then they turn the camera on, you feel me.
Speaker 3: They don't really sit with the record.
Speaker 5: They don't really dissect what he's talking about, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. They just they just listen and then boom,
Speaker 5: turn the camera on to start talking.
Speaker 3: So they can try.
Speaker 5: To capitalize off of the algorithm and what everybody talking
Speaker 5: about be one of the first ones with some you
Speaker 5: know content out there, you feel me. So, yeah, that's
Speaker 5: from from the listener's perspective, Yeah, and then from the artists.
Speaker 5: You know, Kendrick is one of them dudes who's still
Speaker 5: being rewarded for having a sharp pin. You feel me
Speaker 5: like it's a lot of artists who feel like they
Speaker 5: wasting their time trying to improve their craft because they
Speaker 5: see a lot of whack. Kendrick is one of them
Speaker 5: dudes who's still being rewarded on a high level for
Speaker 5: having creativity, for caring about his skill set. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. He's still getting those accolades, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. So I think we need his presence,
Speaker 5: you know, and Cam's other people on this level, you know,
Speaker 5: doing that too, But we need Kendrick, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, because the next generation is watching just like
Speaker 5: I was watching. I was watching Everybody. I was watching
Speaker 5: Big Daddy Kane. I was watching Rock Cam. I was
Speaker 5: watching Coolgi Rap, I was watching Ice T the DC.
Speaker 5: I was watching Public Enemy, nwa Q, Scarface.
Speaker 3: You watching. When you're young and you start.
Speaker 5: To open that, you crack open that motherfucking notebook and
Speaker 5: you pick up that pen, and you've been influenced by
Speaker 5: everything you've been hearing. So the next generation, if everything
Speaker 5: they're hearing is weak and it's whack, then they gonna
Speaker 5: think that's the thing to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I really try not that man. Hip hop
Speaker 1: is such an opinion based sport, right, so I'm careful nothing.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm always cautious in disregard to somebody else's
Speaker 1: opinion because at the end of the day, that's all.
Speaker 1: It was somebody's opinion. Man. But dope, it's dope, and
Speaker 1: whack has always been whack. And I do think that
Speaker 1: people are not really sitting back and listening to stuff,
Speaker 1: and no more I think they listening to the first
Speaker 1: off is the beat jamming is the hook ketschi and
Speaker 1: they don't care what somebody saying on the record. It
Speaker 1: seemed like you could be on there going google guy, guy.
Speaker 1: But if the beat is jamming, it's almost like it's
Speaker 1: gone because for a minute, you know, when you it
Speaker 1: was getting so auto tuned heavy for a minute to
Speaker 1: where it was like, man, if you throw the auto
Speaker 1: tune on there and just going there hummer melody and
Speaker 1: got a cracking beak, you can mess around. Have a
Speaker 1: platinum record.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: And it's a young kid named Denzel, Denzel Curry, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, who's making great music for his generation.
Speaker 5: And he tweeted something he said it took two of
Speaker 5: the biggest artists in the world to beef for the
Speaker 5: people to care about lyricism again. So you're right, everybody
Speaker 5: listening just to the beach, the hooks, whatever they could
Speaker 5: turn up to. You know, they they looking for a
Speaker 5: vibe instead of you know, any kind of information or
Speaker 5: any kind of you know, stories or whatever.
Speaker 3: They're looking for a vibe. But this right here, these
Speaker 3: two heavyweights going at it.
Speaker 5: Is making them listen to what people are what them
Speaker 5: two artists are saying now, they listening to the lyrics
Speaker 5: right now, you know what I'm saying. And they having
Speaker 5: a big open debate online on all social media platforms
Speaker 5: about who was saying the dopest ship and that right there,
Speaker 5: that little energy, that spirit.
Speaker 3: That's where I'm cut from. I'm cut from that cloth of.
Speaker 5: Who's saying what you know what I mean, Whose style
Speaker 5: is hard, Who's saying some hard ship?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like, that's the energy that you know, our arrows brought up.
Speaker 5: It's real dope that some of that is present right now?
Speaker 3: Feel me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so eight. When you first came in
Speaker 1: the gang man like you know, during that era, you
Speaker 1: really had to be able to rap, right, It wasn't
Speaker 1: really no room for the for what I like to
Speaker 1: call the publicity stunts. The swag rapping wasn't quite out
Speaker 1: check you know the word ket can just get off
Speaker 1: with a swagger and just get that off and become
Speaker 1: a full complete artist. You actually had to be able
Speaker 1: to rap. Where do you think shit kind of start
Speaker 1: falling off at?
Speaker 4: Oh shit, man hip hop, just man rap, just hip
Speaker 4: hop rap, whatever you want to call it, whatever you
Speaker 4: consider yourself in whatever category. A lot of shit, to me,
Speaker 4: rap started falling off when companies started getting scared of
Speaker 4: the truth.
Speaker 1: In our music.
Speaker 4: You know, because we would tell our truths about you know,
Speaker 4: situations where we're in and thus, you know, violence portrayed
Speaker 4: in our music. A lot of people start wanting to
Speaker 4: stray away from our music. Thus you had a lot
Speaker 4: of you know, let's glamorize you know, money and and fame,
Speaker 4: and let's glamorize who got the biggest chains. And you
Speaker 4: know that's when to me, when raps started not caring
Speaker 4: about lyricism, and let's just face it, some of some
Speaker 4: of that just flies over motherfucker's head. You know a
Speaker 4: lot of people want to hear one two three ABC
Speaker 4: when you pride yourself in lyrics and try to come
Speaker 4: up with something that's unfadable. A lot of people tend
Speaker 4: to want to call that, you know, whack or or
Speaker 4: because they don't understand. We've had a lot of gifted lyricism,
Speaker 4: you know, come from times where people just didn't understand
Speaker 4: the music. You get me, motherfucker, rather hear an ice
Speaker 4: cube than a black thought from the roots, you get me.
Speaker 4: And not that cube was any better or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just that.
Speaker 4: Being having real pride in your lyrics, you know, didn't
Speaker 4: fathom everybody. A lot of niggas just wanted to hear
Speaker 4: a simple beating, a simple ABC you feel me. So
Speaker 4: to me, that's when music started turning. When motherfuckers didn't
Speaker 4: give a damn about what we were rapping about or
Speaker 4: the truthness in our or music. You know, let's just
Speaker 4: rap about you know, corny shit and how big your
Speaker 4: chain is and what kind of motherfucking name brand shoes
Speaker 4: or pants you got on you feel me.
Speaker 1: It was easy to get caught up, man because personally, man,
Speaker 1: I had a situation right and uh, I think when
Speaker 1: you get those deals, you follow the money. You kind
Speaker 1: of talk about management. Everybody else just go along with
Speaker 1: the program. So I was called myself doing a lot
Speaker 1: of whisk proper popular, and uh, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: It took me all around the world, but I didn't
Speaker 1: feel good about it. Mm hm, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Can't listen to it now. I
Speaker 1: think it's garbage. I thought it was trash because and
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these cats go look
Speaker 1: back down the line when they career kind of don
Speaker 1: weighing down to be like, man, am I really proud
Speaker 1: of what I put out there? I don't care how
Speaker 1: much money you made of it.
Speaker 4: You gotta you really gotta, you really gotta add that
Speaker 4: to a lot of the music that's going on today,
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of the simple shit and a
Speaker 4: lot of the vulgar shit that go around. You feel me,
Speaker 4: And not just with the females, with the dudes too,
Speaker 4: with the braggadocious and the you know, the the rapping
Speaker 4: and whatever. Gotta think what motherfucker gonna feel about themselves
Speaker 4: twenty years from now, you give me, when they get
Speaker 4: a little more mature, Are they gonna be pride for
Speaker 4: about the music they put out? Or you know, like
Speaker 4: a Motherfucker's a lot of niggas just want to check
Speaker 4: you feel me shit, And.
Speaker 1: The ain't nothing wrong with that either, man. But I
Speaker 1: think music is so personal, you know, and I see
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that cats doing the day, and
Speaker 1: I honestly can't say that. You know, maybe ten fifteen
Speaker 1: years from now, they won't look back and have some regrets,
Speaker 1: you know, but if they taking care of their family, hey,
Speaker 1: like you said, some people just want to get a
Speaker 1: check a crook. Yeah, you know what, I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing with this record too, You almost gotta be
Speaker 1: in it. You have to be in it. You can't
Speaker 1: be a dumb motherfucker be a Kendrick Lamar fan. You
Speaker 1: can't be a dumb motherfucker be a Crooked I fan.
Speaker 1: You can't be a dumb motherfucker and be just a
Speaker 1: fan of anybody. Got some kind of lyrical depth today stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 5: And but you know what though, that made for a
Speaker 5: cool ass fan base, because I'll begin to Twitter all
Speaker 5: the time, you know, with my rap conversations on Twitter
Speaker 5: and all that X whatever it's called now, And you know,
Speaker 5: you go through some people's fan bases, man, and they're
Speaker 5: just as stupid as the.
Speaker 3: Rapper they love you feel me.
Speaker 5: And it's like when you really about your art, you
Speaker 5: just attract a different type of fan. And it's kind
Speaker 5: of cool, you know what I mean, because we have
Speaker 5: respectful conversations. We don't be disrespecting each other on social
Speaker 5: media like motherfucker Twitter warriors and keyboard warriors and shit.
Speaker 5: You know, you just talking about this hip hop shit
Speaker 5: that we love. That's it, and that's that energy attracts
Speaker 5: that energy.
Speaker 3: So you're right. You know, Kendrick Man his fans, he.
Speaker 5: Got a wive wide ranger fans, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 3: He coming out of Compton Man.
Speaker 1: And yeah, when you know what do his stuff spread?
Speaker 3: Like do the fashion shows and shit like and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said the fashion shows and shit like he had.
Speaker 5: The fashion show in Italy spitting you feel me, Like
Speaker 5: that's crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That his pen took him there to that height.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know it's funny about the clothes though,
Speaker 1: because I saw Doc he had some shit on. It
Speaker 1: looked like like he was in one of the monk
Speaker 1: uniforms or some shit like that, Like he was in
Speaker 1: a priest and the priest robe with something.
Speaker 5: Hey, nigga might have been conjuring up some real shit, nigga,
Speaker 5: some sholing temple shit on these niggas.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But really, though, bro, it's like, as a person from
Speaker 5: my era, I started early. I jumped in the studio
Speaker 5: my first time. My mom's put me in a studio
Speaker 5: and her twin sister rest in peace, my honte when
Speaker 5: I was eight years old.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 5: So I've been dead ass seriously about hip hop since
Speaker 5: since a kid, and I paid attention to everything that
Speaker 5: was going on. So I've seen a lot of errors,
Speaker 5: you feel me, and I'm super open. I'm open to
Speaker 5: experiencing hip hop on a new level in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: I don't look for the young generation to do everything
Speaker 5: that the ogs did.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: They got their own life, they got their own energy,
Speaker 5: they got their own minds, and they want to create
Speaker 5: what they want to create. So I'm very open. But
Speaker 5: a lot of people in my age group they not
Speaker 5: I see. They want Drake to make a Nas type
Speaker 5: Eat the record, and they want Kendrick to make a
Speaker 5: hit Him Up Tupac record, But that's not them, you
Speaker 5: feel me. Drake is making a record that fits his brand,
Speaker 5: and Kendrick is making the same kind of record that he.
Speaker 3: Always made with his artistry. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And I feel like we gotta stop wanting all these
Speaker 5: younger generation cats to be somebody from the past that
Speaker 5: they not, you feel me, because that ain't giving them
Speaker 5: a chance to express theirself how they want to express theirself.
Speaker 3: Do so, I just I just listen with a.
Speaker 5: Open with an open mind, man, And and you know,
Speaker 5: and I understand that things change.
Speaker 3: You feel me from the from the clothes.
Speaker 5: To everything, dad, because Nigga, I don't wear the same
Speaker 5: shit I was when I was twenty.
Speaker 1: You feel me, Yeah, I don't wear the stuff. And
Speaker 1: when I do try to step out eighty ten, my
Speaker 1: ass up so bad. I don't even want to wear
Speaker 1: nothing new. I'm just stick to certain jeans and shit.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's nothing about advancing I guess it's
Speaker 1: nothing about advancing your broadening your horizons. I just feel
Speaker 1: like in certain situations, you know, trying to keep some
Speaker 1: authenticity is in favor of depending on the era you
Speaker 1: came from. You know, my fans ain't gonna want to
Speaker 1: see me in leather pants. And the polka dot shirt
Speaker 1: and shit like that, because I'm gonna lose more fans
Speaker 1: than I gain. In fact, it's it's just like you said,
Speaker 1: it's it's different eras. And even though Kendrick is you know,
Speaker 1: he's from Compton and he grew up around gang bangers
Speaker 1: and the element and the situations, you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: his his artistic is expression is is wearing you know,
Speaker 1: platinum crowns on his head, you know, thorn crowns, and
Speaker 1: and you know, being in fashion shows. And you know
Speaker 1: that's just where some that's just where the element of
Speaker 1: what of what you.
Speaker 4: Choose to be called as an artist.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: Artistry is all kind of expressions, and he's always been
Speaker 4: the type who wanted to express outside of being that
Speaker 4: element you give me. Yeah, I saw niggas gang banging
Speaker 4: when I grew up around gang bangers. I saw the
Speaker 4: dry buys and the niggas claiming hoods and all of that.
Speaker 4: But I dare to be different, you get me. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't think anything is wrong with that. And just
Speaker 4: like you said, some people, some people fall victim to
Speaker 4: the fact of but he's from Compton, you get me.
Speaker 4: And on a worldwide scale. When you mentioned Compton, you
Speaker 4: think of the MC eights, the Easies, the dre's the
Speaker 4: element of what Compton is, you know, So some people
Speaker 4: tend to uh get stuck on that. You get me
Speaker 4: because me as a fan from overseas somewhere, when I
Speaker 4: hear Compton, I'm thinking of, oh, you know what I'm saying, Compton,
Speaker 4: that's the land of the killers in n w A.
Speaker 4: And Compton's most warning. So you you have the mindset,
Speaker 4: the mind state at a particular set, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like when I hear Compton, I'm supposed to
Speaker 4: see this. So just like you said, you see a
Speaker 4: lot of people, they're they're split as far as the
Speaker 4: records are concerned, you know, because like you said, they
Speaker 4: want to hear some I want to hear motherfucking h
Speaker 4: m c A and DJ Quick type of shit. I
Speaker 4: want to hear jay Z and Niles type of shit,
Speaker 4: and you Niggas is talking about all kinds of other,
Speaker 4: you know, shit that I can't get into. So to
Speaker 4: each his own. And you know, true fans and people
Speaker 4: who are lyrical or you know, not to say I'm
Speaker 4: not lyrical on myself because you know, I can understand
Speaker 4: the record. I can listen to it and hear the
Speaker 4: metaphors and you know, all of that, and that's what
Speaker 4: some people pride themselves on. You get me, you know what?
Speaker 4: Do the thing I don't like. I guess dude is
Speaker 4: coming out with his response record, and I guess he
Speaker 4: wuld be going at DUT's wife. I don't know that's
Speaker 4: what I'm hearing, because you know I heard, you know,
Speaker 4: I think Birdman said that Drake got three more records
Speaker 4: ready or.
Speaker 1: Something like that. So I don't know. Man, I'm cool
Speaker 1: with all the competition that, but when you get to
Speaker 1: talk about people's wives and kids and stuff, man, I
Speaker 1: think somebody can get beat the fuck up for real.
Speaker 4: I said, you going from the realm of just dissing
Speaker 4: to now do you really want to beef? Because you know,
Speaker 4: like I said, but they are two artists who pride
Speaker 4: themselves on being able to dig personally into your life,
Speaker 4: into your career and whatever embarrassment is everything. I guess
Speaker 4: as far as you know fucking, I'm just gonna make
Speaker 4: some music and it's gonna be on point.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I want to go and you know.
Speaker 4: Search Court Records and divorce records and paternity records and
Speaker 4: seeing if you got f's.
Speaker 1: In school and shit like that.
Speaker 4: You know, it goes to a different realm of dissing because,
Speaker 4: like I said, now it goes to the element of beefing.
Speaker 1: And how how hard do you take that? You feel? Me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I don't know. Man. If I hear a regular
Speaker 1: the dude going in on my wife, man, it's gonna
Speaker 1: make me feel a certain kind of way. Trucks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And a lot of people don't get that because
Speaker 5: a lot of the comments and all that they egging
Speaker 5: it on.
Speaker 3: They yeah, they want them to get personal, and it
Speaker 3: ain't personal or nothing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: They want it, they want it, But as soon as
Speaker 5: it turned into beef and it's spill over into the streets,
Speaker 5: then hear the same people like, oh, they need to
Speaker 5: chill and just keep it on wax. So, you know,
Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of the people in the
Speaker 5: comments sections understand that. Just because you don't view Kendrick
Speaker 5: or Drake and a certain light, you gotta know they
Speaker 5: they very powerful, paid individuals, and it could be somebody
Speaker 5: and they entourage that's straight off the curves that's really
Speaker 5: with it, and Mike feel like I need to set
Speaker 5: it off if I run into anybody from the other side.
Speaker 3: And then now we got.
Speaker 5: A beef going on some street ship or on some
Speaker 5: physical violence shit, and we're gonna look back at the records,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And and it's gonna be
Speaker 5: judged by the words, because words are the first weapons
Speaker 5: in war.
Speaker 3: Half the time, you feel me, and then it turns
Speaker 3: into the other thing. So it's really you, right eight,
Speaker 3: You're definitely right. My brother is leaving the realm of.
Speaker 5: Who is the hardest MC, and it's going into a
Speaker 5: whole nother dimension, you know what I'm saying. When they
Speaker 5: get too into digging of this and digging of that,
Speaker 5: I mean, that takes the fun out of it for
Speaker 5: me too.
Speaker 3: When they come to even.
Speaker 5: Certain battle rap, it's like YO talking about a bunch
Speaker 5: of unnecessary shit, like you like, you know, no shots
Speaker 5: to the shave room, but it's a shave room rat.
Speaker 3: And feel me, it's like, I ain't really with all that.
Speaker 5: You know, we was just talk to verbally dismantled fools,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And you could come with
Speaker 5: the hardest lyrics the bars and everything and still lose
Speaker 5: the battle in the court of public opinion because this
Speaker 5: man said he know your wife sleeping with your cousin
Speaker 5: and you know what I'm saying, and he come out
Speaker 5: with the Instagram post proving it.
Speaker 3: So it's just crazy, man, It's it's wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Old Boy seemed like the type of dude that
Speaker 1: he used his resources to go dig up shit on people.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm shit. I'm basically in
Speaker 4: a situation to where nigga, I can go hire me
Speaker 4: some private investigators, Like if I'm going to court or
Speaker 4: some shit, I'm gonna go pay somebody, some a couple
Speaker 4: of thousand to go dig up some man. You can
Speaker 4: go as far back is when a nigga used to
Speaker 4: pee in the bed. You feel me. I want to
Speaker 4: know if a nigga used to pee in the bed
Speaker 4: when he was a kid, and shit like that, and
Speaker 4: nigga nigga, you know, they want to expose a lot
Speaker 4: of personal motherfucking issues, and to me, it takes it,
Speaker 4: It takes it away from the realm of dissing to
Speaker 4: where you basically ready to you know, you ready to
Speaker 4: get hands on involved because now you are, or you
Speaker 4: are digging into personal situations and shit, you know, like
Speaker 4: you said, talking about people's families or moms or pops
Speaker 4: or living situations growing up. You know how you used
Speaker 4: to be as a kid and your mom didn't have
Speaker 4: this or your dad didn't have that. You know, I
Speaker 4: consider that you're getting into the realm of beefing. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm aa turn it from yeah, nigga, I'm the hottest
Speaker 4: motherfucker on the microphone, and nigga you or this and that,
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna turn it into nigga, you was a
Speaker 4: poor motherfucker on fold stamps and y'all used to sleep
Speaker 4: all in the same room as a kid and shit
Speaker 4: like that. Now, like I said, now you're trying to
Speaker 4: get into a situation to where it's unpredictable.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you don't know where you can go?
Speaker 5: Yeah, nah, I just I'm just like, man, that was
Speaker 5: a bar, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like you see it, and it's always the
Speaker 1: it's always the homies, it's always the entourage. Let's face it,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody who ever kicks Drake out of bounds. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody who ever kicks Kendrick gout of bounds. But you
Speaker 1: will see they entourage about town if they're in the
Speaker 1: same city or whatever, and that's when the stuff kick off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And that's the whole thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So we don't have to worry about that when it
Speaker 5: comes to country music and R and B and jazz
Speaker 5: and rock and roll, you know, I mean, hip hop
Speaker 5: has always had.
Speaker 3: That element, you feel me.
Speaker 5: And you know they said the rap cells was down
Speaker 5: thirty seven and country music was soaring, and all of
Speaker 5: a sudden, you know, these beefs breakout and Chris Brown
Speaker 5: is rapping against the Migos and Drake and Kendrick and
Speaker 5: j Cole and now all this rock em soccer excitement
Speaker 5: is back, you know what I'm saying. But it's like, damn,
Speaker 5: we can only bring our shit back with beef.
Speaker 1: That what I'm saying. We gotta do some niggative shit
Speaker 1: to bring hip hop back. That's crazy, ain't it. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Beef is leading to the renaissance of hip hop coming back.
Speaker 4: I remember it seemed like that's been that's been the
Speaker 4: forefront of what's going on in music the last couple
Speaker 4: of years. Uh, And like I hate to talk about
Speaker 4: shit like that because you know, I come from an
Speaker 4: era where you know, we had disc records and niggas
Speaker 4: had beef and and you know, we too were at
Speaker 4: a point where we were uncontrollable when it came to
Speaker 4: our attitudes and our mind state with music. But it
Speaker 4: also led down a negative path in hip hop. You know,
Speaker 4: it kind of put a lot of West Coast artists
Speaker 4: on Paul's when the record companies were scared to, uh,
Speaker 4: fuck with us.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: It seems like, you know, like you said, uh, it
Speaker 4: seemed like every rapper that started coming out figured like
Speaker 4: the foundation for my existence is gonna be beefing with
Speaker 4: a motherfucker. I don't give a fuck if it's a
Speaker 4: nigga from three counties away or fucking five states away.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna wake up this morning and say, all
Speaker 4: this nigga whacking. Yeah, fuck this nigga. You get me.
Speaker 4: Look at all the beefing and all them and all
Speaker 4: the you know.
Speaker 1: Was it. Did we have as.
Speaker 4: Much murdering and killing when we was rapping and shit like? Like,
Speaker 4: I know niggas had their issues and shit, but I
Speaker 4: don't know if we had as much killing and deaths
Speaker 4: of hip hop niggas. When you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: because if you look for the last maybe what the
Speaker 4: last five years, niggas was dropping when it came to
Speaker 4: hip hop.
Speaker 1: Tell you what it is is a couple of things.
Speaker 1: Eight we w wasn't on drugs. We was on some
Speaker 1: weed and some Tennessee or whatever like that. But these
Speaker 1: catch is taking heroin now, dog, these catches on heroin,
Speaker 1: all those pills and you know, all this stuff. They
Speaker 1: don't hear.
Speaker 4: I get a lot of drug heavy because like you said,
Speaker 4: we we advocated for weed and drinking a forty ounce
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, maybe sipping on some motherfucking
Speaker 4: hen and See or some shit, but you know that
Speaker 4: that Uh, the mind state today is fucking you cann
Speaker 4: Do you some wean? You can do you some motherfucks
Speaker 4: all heroin and heroin. You know, sniff you a couple
Speaker 4: of this, pop you a couple of that. Everything is fine.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 4: We had we had dishes and beefs in our era
Speaker 4: of hip hop minds was you know, late eighties to
Speaker 4: you know, the beginning of the two thousands. Did we
Speaker 4: have so much killing you getting me all the Chicago dudes.
Speaker 1: It was dropping and all the other rappers and you
Speaker 1: know all of what this and you know what it
Speaker 1: is too. This internet is a motherfucker dog. Social media
Speaker 1: people is you know, dropping bodies live on camera and
Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy stuff. You seen cats get wet
Speaker 1: up in their car while they on the live dog.
Speaker 1: You know, they called anybody out there liking niggas lacking.
Speaker 1: They letting cats have it broad they like you did.
Speaker 1: That's what them drugs, man, They so brazen because of
Speaker 1: them drugs. Bro, I'm telling you, I.
Speaker 4: Don't think I never seen you know, like I said,
Speaker 4: we had a treacherous with the neighborhoods and the banging
Speaker 4: and the cripping and blood. But as far as hip
Speaker 4: hop is concerned, you know a lot of motherfuckers who
Speaker 4: claim to be grabbing the microphone or putting themselves in
Speaker 4: the in in that situation was coming up, you know,
Speaker 4: niggas was getting hit like shit like we on the street.
Speaker 1: Corn. Well, you know what it is, man, Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's the combination of the drugs and you like in
Speaker 1: front of it's like you own twenty four to seven
Speaker 1: people got their phones with him. They going live so
Speaker 1: it's like a motherfucker's gonna really try to prove his
Speaker 1: manhood to the rest of this world. He don't want
Speaker 1: to look like he oh, you feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So he go take it to a place to where
Speaker 1: he probably don't have to go. We didn't have all
Speaker 1: that pressure back then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the motherfucking social media got crazy.
Speaker 5: I remember one year. I don't know if it's around
Speaker 5: COVID or something, but they said two hundred independent rappers
Speaker 5: got killed exactly.
Speaker 4: Like if you go, if you go check right now
Speaker 4: and go back to like I don't know, maybe five
Speaker 4: to eight, five to seven years ago, you will see
Speaker 4: a gang of just wrapped you like niggas is still
Speaker 4: affiliated with the streets. I'm sure you know, but it's
Speaker 4: crazy to see how many so called up and coming
Speaker 4: hip hop rappers who was just getting smoked like like
Speaker 4: not no, you know, we got the pop thing and
Speaker 4: we got the biggie thing. You know, but that was
Speaker 4: on We already know what that was about.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: You look up right now, it's thirty month fucking little
Speaker 4: hip hop dudes that like you ain't even like, damn,
Speaker 4: this dude not shot. This dude got killed this dude
Speaker 4: got killed. This dude got killed. And that's what it's
Speaker 4: fucked up for us, because you know, now it's like
Speaker 4: it's not even you gotta be certified, so to speak.
Speaker 4: You know, in our days, nigga, you didn't have a record, nigga,
Speaker 4: you wasn't no, you wasn't on, You wasn't no hip
Speaker 4: hop dude, you get me. You know, if you was
Speaker 4: in the studio putting out records, that's what you know,
Speaker 4: determined your status. Shit nowadays, motherfucker, I put out two
Speaker 4: knixtapes and I'm you know, I'm certified.
Speaker 1: You feel me. And then so a lot of those
Speaker 1: you know, up and.
Speaker 4: Coming rappers or rappers in their own communities or sections
Speaker 4: or whatever, a lot of niggas is getting popped because
Speaker 4: you still got them mother fucking neighborhood ties to the streets,
Speaker 4: and beefing seemed like.
Speaker 1: Beefing seemed like the way.
Speaker 4: To uh well, be stain yourself, beef moving needle bullshit exactly.
Speaker 4: So today you just a regular motherfucking rapper, you know,
Speaker 4: trying to put our shit. Next thing, you know, you
Speaker 4: go out shoot a couple of niggas or pop out
Speaker 4: or get the arguing with.
Speaker 1: A nigga on the internet.
Speaker 4: Now, nigga, you the popular a rapper and shit and
Speaker 4: you might not make it.
Speaker 1: You feel me? That's for real, dog, you know what,
Speaker 1: I was gonna have both of y'all. How many years
Speaker 1: ago did get Richie do try and come out like
Speaker 1: twenty years ago? Probably to me that I think when
Speaker 1: people saw that fifty had so much commotion around him,
Speaker 1: it's like he came in the game with the beef
Speaker 1: with joh Ru, who was the most popular category. Time
Speaker 1: he got stabbed in the studio, he got shot, and
Speaker 1: it's like he came out like the monster. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was almost like he became with
Speaker 1: Tupac would have been had he you feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it was that same little negative or he just had
Speaker 1: bullshit with everybody. He had the ship where he had
Speaker 1: ship with almost every rapper. It was to the point
Speaker 1: to where niggas was almost scared to say something about him.
Speaker 1: And I think these kids saw that, and that's what
Speaker 1: they'd been raised off. A dog. I think this whole
Speaker 1: generation been raised off conflict.
Speaker 3: That's the whole thing.
Speaker 5: And I think that it's a deeper problem know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Number one, I wish niggas would have had
Speaker 5: conflict resolution classes and elementary though just learn how to
Speaker 5: not take everything from zero to one hundred, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. That's one two. The drug get the
Speaker 5: drugs mixed with the addiction to attention, like you said,
Speaker 5: the social media shit, it's crazy. I mean the niggas
Speaker 5: was niggas was killing niggas, go to the nigga graveyard
Speaker 5: and film a rap video, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: dancing on the nigga grave. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like it's just got crazy, and you know, they started
Speaker 5: locking niggas up and it was a new Niggas was
Speaker 5: having number one hits getting locked up for the crazy
Speaker 5: crazy shit in fucking in fucking jail for and then
Speaker 5: to top it off, the label exact some of them,
Speaker 5: not all, but some of them was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: them the kind of niggas we want to sign and
Speaker 5: for budgets behind and they was searching for niggas because
Speaker 5: I don't have.
Speaker 3: A couple labels. Hit me and ask me you ain't
Speaker 3: got no little homies.
Speaker 5: That's acting crazy in Long Beach right now that we
Speaker 5: could you know what I'm saying, put on like they
Speaker 5: looking for artists that got beef, the young niggas who
Speaker 5: you know, took nines and shit all on the Instagram.
Speaker 3: They looking for that.
Speaker 5: So and then the executives, I'm like, okay, so I
Speaker 5: get you that do y'all go to they listening parties.
Speaker 3: Hell now, so the execs know that this person might.
Speaker 5: Get killed before the album come out, I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: go hang out with this dude that is listening party.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put him in a type of contract to
Speaker 5: where if he do die, I'm to get the insurance
Speaker 5: off of you. Then I'm gonna have all rights to
Speaker 5: his likeness and image, even on some digital shits in
Speaker 5: case I gotta send a hologram or this nigga up
Speaker 5: to Coachella.
Speaker 3: Like it's really deep, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It's deep, And I feel like in our era, we
Speaker 5: still had a lot of people of the.
Speaker 3: Culture sitting in them big offices.
Speaker 5: We had rust with Simmons, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: we had different people who were still part of this culture,
Speaker 5: loved the culture, came up in the culture, signing artists.
Speaker 3: You know, now, it's all about the laptop. That's the
Speaker 3: an r.
Speaker 5: Let me look at your SoundCloud, let me look at
Speaker 5: your followers, let me look at your streams. All right,
Speaker 5: you and some kind of beef on social media, all right, cool,
Speaker 5: come on in and get a deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they want now. Man. It's almost like
Speaker 1: record companies, man, and just media and period. Man is
Speaker 1: really profit enough of black misery and pain or in conflict.
Speaker 1: This stuff just goes so much further. And then when
Speaker 1: you find out that most of these major corporations they
Speaker 1: have ownership in the Spotify and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: they also got a lot of money invested in these prisons. Right,
Speaker 1: so if they can grow up and think about it
Speaker 1: like this, they gonna make money from here on out
Speaker 1: to the year three thousand. Because if they can get
Speaker 1: if they can keep generation the niggas stuck on dope,
Speaker 1: killing each other and just acting crazy, and that's the
Speaker 1: popular thing they ain't doing up keeping the hold. They
Speaker 1: just got a nice fresh supply.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they win it.
Speaker 5: But then you got the flip side where you got
Speaker 5: young niggas like Lord Russell who figured out how to
Speaker 5: do it independently, how to work social media.
Speaker 3: To his advantage.
Speaker 5: How to drop records about just having fun in the
Speaker 5: Bay Area and get people to like it.
Speaker 3: How to get his audience in.
Speaker 5: Gauged to the point where now rappers that sell millions
Speaker 5: of records, it's hitting him up and asking him, yo,
Speaker 5: let me get down with you because he got a wave.
Speaker 5: And you know that part needs to be highlighted too,
Speaker 5: because it's a lot of young people following him and
Speaker 5: they don't want to be the next statistic.
Speaker 3: They want to be an artist.
Speaker 5: Rap take care of they and l Russell is a
Speaker 5: good example of what a young person could do right now,
Speaker 5: and it's off.
Speaker 1: Is the perfect example. But these little niggas don't want
Speaker 1: to be l Russell right now. Man, It's like not but.
Speaker 5: You still you looking at these little niggas that that's
Speaker 5: that's already if you remove rap, they already.
Speaker 3: They're still gonna be on the streets. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: That's that's not every young niggas. Some young niggas is
Speaker 5: going to school playing ball. It's you know, it's some
Speaker 5: young niggas out there that got they act together.
Speaker 3: Them the niggas who want to be like Larrussell. You
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And then you got the other niggas. It don't matter
Speaker 5: about Rap. They was gonna be with the ship no
Speaker 5: matter what. All Rap did was helped them get some.
Speaker 1: Attention the shit, you know.
Speaker 4: And that's the situation with that is, like you said,
Speaker 4: there was a lot of young dude, there's a y'all
Speaker 4: of young men who are still born in this poverty,
Speaker 4: in these in these sections. And there's a lot of
Speaker 4: these young men who don't have an aspiration to be
Speaker 4: a Larussell. You feel me because of Nigga. Ain't nobody
Speaker 4: in my neighborhood growing up trying to be a Larussell.
Speaker 1: They trying to be a trag new Park. You get me.
Speaker 4: So that's where it always turns, Like I said, you
Speaker 4: you it all. I don't know what, like I would say,
Speaker 4: product of my environment, right, there's a lot of.
Speaker 1: Dudes who are who.
Speaker 4: Are led astray from having the mind state of oh,
Speaker 4: I don't have to be no banger or I don't
Speaker 4: have to wound why I'm gonna be sports.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard, you get me.
Speaker 4: My son turned and he had a choice of not
Speaker 4: to become a Larussell or MC eight or whatever, because
Speaker 4: he had other choices. He grew up in the area
Speaker 4: excuse me, where he wasn't faced with. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to the local elementary or junior high school,
Speaker 4: you know, in in in Compton, I'm going to elementary
Speaker 4: and in fucking h mirror, yetta, you get me. Uh,
Speaker 4: there is no exposures. There might be a few wannabes,
Speaker 4: you get me. It might be a few wannabes, But
Speaker 4: as far as you know, walking home from school and
Speaker 4: every fucking every fucking pole or empty house is hit
Speaker 4: up with the neighborhood or or when I get off
Speaker 4: the bus, the school bus, I'm walking through a through
Speaker 4: an area where it's ten niggas on the block already
Speaker 4: right now, niggas is influencing me because they know me,
Speaker 4: you feel me. I live right down the street. So
Speaker 4: it's gonna be some of that. Hey, my nigga, come
Speaker 4: hang on, Well, what's up? WoT you want that influence?
Speaker 4: So a lot of the rappers are already, like you said,
Speaker 4: they already influenced or affiliated just by association of where
Speaker 4: I'm staying. So now all these niggas who go in
Speaker 4: at home and going nigga ride, they kitchen with a
Speaker 4: computer and a motherfucker go with shit, nigga, let's become
Speaker 4: the crew and let's start rapping. But now all they
Speaker 4: raps want to be you know, beefing or fuck your
Speaker 4: neighborhood or or who is this nigga? What does this
Speaker 4: nigga say he from? Or he a rapper from from
Speaker 4: that section. That's automatic beef. You get me. It ain't
Speaker 4: even own no motherfucking record. Shit, it's just automatic beef
Speaker 4: because that nigga's a rapper from that section. So you
Speaker 4: got fucked up choices that. And then when, like I said,
Speaker 4: when you see a lot of niggas who still want
Speaker 4: to be gang affiliated because they feel like I got
Speaker 4: to you feel me, they don't have that mind stay up. Well,
Speaker 4: I really don't have to do that shit, you get me.
Speaker 1: I know, I heard a little cat say one day,
Speaker 1: and this really tripped me. I heard a little dude
Speaker 1: tell me one day, man, I want a dialect mean,
Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean you want to doubt? Listen?
Speaker 1: He said, Man, I want to go out. He said,
Speaker 1: I want to go out like gigga.
Speaker 4: It was, it was, it was, It was a rite
Speaker 4: of passage back in my time to you know, get
Speaker 4: arrested and go to places like ya or or you know,
Speaker 4: wayside or whatever.
Speaker 1: That was right of passage if you was.
Speaker 4: A motherfucking young hood nigga, Nigga, you finish, go do
Speaker 4: some time, Nigga, they finish sing you the Ya.
Speaker 1: Nigga.
Speaker 4: You come home like the motherfucking super gang banger you getting.
Speaker 4: That's the respect you get. And some of us like
Speaker 4: just life talking to the HOMEI rich, Yeah, Nigga, Shit, Nigga,
Speaker 4: I thought like nigg I thought that was everything, nigga
Speaker 4: to get arrested and then go do some time and
Speaker 4: then be up in the county and shit like nigga
Speaker 4: where you from?
Speaker 1: Telling nigga where you from?
Speaker 4: And ship now niggas nigga, nigga we official, So man,
Speaker 4: that was everything. As some mothersfuckers knowing is dumb as
Speaker 4: fuck you in jail, But that that was your connection, nigga.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy, man, because these little kids today, Man,
Speaker 1: I swear to God forever. The Russell what's the other
Speaker 1: brother's name with the dreads, Man, it's out there. It's
Speaker 1: a couple of positive cash that's moving, man. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you that the main draw is the beef. Man.
Speaker 1: Look at it, now, Look at this, look look at
Speaker 1: the whole shit with social media. Now, man, we've allowed
Speaker 1: motherfuckers that don't have no place in the culture to
Speaker 1: come in and be real taste makers up in his bigs.
Speaker 1: They just don't came up in hip hop and kicked
Speaker 1: their feet up on the table everything else and their
Speaker 1: opinion matter. They'll say some shit and have three thousand
Speaker 1: of the motherfuckers retweeting that shit. And these motherfuckers don't
Speaker 1: know the first thing about hip hop.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then and then it's like we forget who
Speaker 5: to be gangster own because it's like, all right, why
Speaker 5: they get to come inside the house and hip hop,
Speaker 5: kick their feet up, make all the money and disrespect everybody.
Speaker 1: And keep more shit going in a little bit. Man,
Speaker 1: if you look at the climate that's going on our dog,
Speaker 1: it's like, dudes don't replace women as the number one
Speaker 1: gossip columnists. Every podcast out there is on some gosp.
Speaker 3: And shit, yeah, mossap Man, gossip.
Speaker 1: Man, gossip Man. And I don't know if you get
Speaker 1: much worse than that. And it's some shit out there,
Speaker 1: crook that can get, They can really get motherfuckers hurt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dog, this camera on this phone, who this a
Speaker 5: motherfucker boy?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying it is, And I think that's the thing today, man.
Speaker 1: I just think these kids got so much more shit to,
Speaker 1: so many more distractions, so many more ways to get eliminated, man,
Speaker 1: and they just I'm gonna tell you, this shit is addictive.
Speaker 1: I've seen grown ass men going this motherfucking lite like
Speaker 1: Boldfaced Live just to get some clicks and views, like like.
Speaker 5: Of course, yeah, niggas used to come in the barbershop line,
Speaker 5: get some pretention the motherfucker YouTube doing it.
Speaker 1: And I think just one person, it's a whole lot
Speaker 1: of people, man, And it's like beef is driving everything out. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, the title's gotta be more slationious and everything else.
Speaker 1: So I guess at the end of the day, Drake
Speaker 1: and Kendrick go both benefit from this shit, man, a
Speaker 1: great deal, because shit, Kendry, don't put this shit up
Speaker 1: on streaming site, so already you don't have this, Like
Speaker 1: I think he had like five million views in the
Speaker 1: first hour or some shit.
Speaker 3: Like that, number one on Apple right now.
Speaker 4: I mean, people just like I said, people unfortunate. We
Speaker 4: as black people too. We love some shit, love some
Speaker 4: bullsh some shit. We love to see some bitches duking
Speaker 4: it out. We love to see some niggas shooting at
Speaker 4: each other or beefing or talking shit to each other.
Speaker 4: We love to see another the next motherfucker, you know,
Speaker 4: put the next motherfucker down. It's like it feeds some motherfucker.
Speaker 4: You get me, like, man, I can't wait to see
Speaker 4: a motherfucker kick So and Soul's ass, or I can't
Speaker 4: wait to see what's so and so got to say
Speaker 4: about motherfucking or.
Speaker 1: Just like we couldn't wait for this shit.
Speaker 4: Man, I can't wait to see what Drake say about Kendrick.
Speaker 4: Now it's like I can't wait to see what Kendrick
Speaker 4: say about Drake. And unfortunately, you know, it's it's gloves off.
Speaker 1: You say something. He's saying something about the homies, old
Speaker 1: lady to us, gloves off.
Speaker 4: It's gloves off though, because now at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, it's still all about numbers. I don't give
Speaker 4: a fuck you get in this day and age, it's
Speaker 4: all about numbers right now. How many more can I
Speaker 4: stream than you?
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: It's gotten to the point to where you, like you said,
Speaker 4: you would think that you would have the respect of
Speaker 4: like you know, well, I ain't gonna say nothing about
Speaker 4: your mama or your kids, you know. I think that's
Speaker 4: kind of the you know what we had as far
Speaker 4: as the cold, but there is no cold today. When
Speaker 4: it comes to the value of a stream, you get me, shit, nigga,
Speaker 4: if this motherfucker finna give me ten million more streams
Speaker 4: than hey, I'm gonna talk about your kids, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: talk about your mama, your girlfriends. I'm gonna talk about
Speaker 4: it all because people is waiting to listen it, they
Speaker 4: waiting to hear.
Speaker 1: Well, man, I'm gonna tell you this, and this is
Speaker 1: what people don't know. I was talking to the homie
Speaker 1: top Dog last night, you know, dude, though you know
Speaker 1: here Tde and you know, me and him was just talking. Man.
Speaker 1: We didn't talk talk very little about this shit. But
Speaker 1: one thing that he did say is that Kate out
Speaker 1: is his family and he don't appreciate cats using his name.
Speaker 1: You feel what I mean to even in senorate, any
Speaker 1: kind of disrespect, you know, right, So so he wasn't
Speaker 1: cool with that.
Speaker 4: Well that's what dude's gonna do. Like I said, uh,
Speaker 4: nothing is off the table. You feel nothing, Nothing is
Speaker 4: off the table. I don't give a fuck. And then,
Speaker 4: like you said, a lot of a lot of situations,
Speaker 4: money brings uh uh courage, you get me. Money brings
Speaker 4: that motherfucking that that green courage, that that that blue face,
Speaker 4: or that green dollar. Might a motherfucker feel invincible, So
Speaker 4: find the exactly. But that's a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 4: a lot of people who sit on a stack of
Speaker 4: money or feel they're untouchable because you know, I got
Speaker 4: a billion dollars, nigga, you can't touch me. So nothing
Speaker 4: is off the table for some dudes. Uh, That's what
Speaker 4: I said. Everything is is, it's everything. When a motherfucker
Speaker 4: respects you, you feel me, loyalty takes you nowhere. Man,
Speaker 4: respect half motherfucker's not trying you really as they know
Speaker 4: what you're about at this point. Like I said, at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's all about the numbers.
Speaker 4: It's all about the dollar sign and the numbers. Because
Speaker 4: niggas feel like they can say whatever you're giving me,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say whatever for a laugh or a joke
Speaker 4: or a download.
Speaker 3: Absolutely I want to know this. I want to know
Speaker 3: do we need more great records? Are we lacking great
Speaker 3: records that can do.
Speaker 5: As much streams as a disc record, that could get
Speaker 5: as much attention as much love? Are we lacking those
Speaker 5: great records? Like could could those great records kind of shifted?
Speaker 3: Disfing and beefing ain't nowhere? We know that.
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, like, more great records coming from artists,
Speaker 5: I mean global fucking great ass records like shit Niggas
Speaker 5: straight up minutes. That motherfucker is a great fucking classic record,
Speaker 5: dear Mama, great fucking classic record. If some of these
Speaker 5: guys that are going at it with each other, if
Speaker 5: they start concentrating on making great classic records, will that
Speaker 5: shit the game somewhat?
Speaker 1: You know what? I think, Krook, That's an interesting question,
Speaker 1: and I've asked myself that before. I just think that
Speaker 1: we in the ara man to where people to get
Speaker 1: somebody's attention is so difficult nowadays that you almost gotta
Speaker 1: be some doing some bullshit. It's like every corner you
Speaker 1: go around, somebody got something going on. Right. If you
Speaker 1: walk outside and you can see somebody fighting fighting, ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be as shocking as it normally would because you
Speaker 1: see it every day, right so, I think dudes is
Speaker 1: just going over the top right now. I think they're
Speaker 1: doing it because they almost have to. That's what I
Speaker 1: don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think motherfuckers are influenced by making great records.
Speaker 4: The females want to tell you they got the best pussy,
Speaker 4: and the niggas want to tell you they got the
Speaker 4: biggest wallets. Nobody wants to concentrate on just making good music.
Speaker 4: If you get me, the females are all one. The
Speaker 4: females want to let you know, Hey, nigga, I got
Speaker 4: the best pussy, And then the niggas want to go, hey, nigga.
Speaker 1: I got the biggest wallet.
Speaker 4: Look at my Look at my motherfucking chinchilla covered G
Speaker 4: five nigga.
Speaker 1: You get me, you feel me?
Speaker 4: And every bitch is comparing themselves and compete of who
Speaker 4: got the best puss. Nough bitch, my pussy is the
Speaker 4: no bitch, I got the best pussy over he's real, bitch,
Speaker 4: I got the best pussy. You feel me, because that's
Speaker 4: all the records really are sustained about.
Speaker 1: You give me, what was you gonna say?
Speaker 5: Crook well shit, they got it. They got something else
Speaker 5: to worry about the minute, Like.
Speaker 4: All they care about right now is niggas is like, nigger,
Speaker 4: look at this big ass wallet I got. Nigga about
Speaker 4: Wiley's so big I had to break that motherfucker head
Speaker 4: on the toe truck.
Speaker 1: Nigga about wallet is so big, man, I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna say his name because he wanted
Speaker 1: the homies. He told me straight up, he said, well,
Speaker 1: Hendrick can't win as better because he ain't got as
Speaker 1: much money as Drake. It's all about the wilet And
Speaker 1: I said, dogs, So you really just judging all this
Speaker 1: based on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's gonna turn It's not even gonna be
Speaker 4: about the lyrics. It's gonna be about who's the flossiest,
Speaker 4: and everybody you know that. You know, mister Man is flossy.
Speaker 4: You know, Kendrick not too flassy. Mister Man is flossy.
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, people are more fascinated.
Speaker 4: People are more fascinated with your motherfucking pocket change. You
Speaker 4: get me, don't They don't give a fucking you know,
Speaker 4: Oh man, this nigga put out one of the dopest
Speaker 4: records of No niggas are more fascinated with how much
Speaker 4: money your motherfucker got. And you know that's the that's
Speaker 4: that's the that's what motherfucker's impressed is off of. You know,
Speaker 4: they're impressed off of the pocketbook, not the lyrical skills.
Speaker 4: They're impressed off the pocketbook. Wow, yep. And guess what.
Speaker 5: Guess what's gonna wipe their ass out in a minute,
Speaker 5: Ai nigga.
Speaker 1: Hell ya, it's coming, bro, Well it's here. What fuck
Speaker 1: you think? Kids?
Speaker 4: Pressed because a motherfucker can rap good? No motherfucker impressed
Speaker 4: because the motherfuckering nigga.
Speaker 1: This nigga rich, he's rich.
Speaker 4: Kendrick, don't portray that even though he got bread, my nigga,
Speaker 4: don't portray the you get me. Yeah, he not flos,
Speaker 4: he not you know, he not onto Rodge rolled up.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, all the pieces on and you
Speaker 4: know in the middle of the club, you know, with
Speaker 4: a hundred thousand and ones and you know, like you
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna rent out of baseball stadium to take
Speaker 4: a bitch to dinner and shit like that. He not
Speaker 4: doing all that money. But money impresses a lot of motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the hommy told me that though though he
Speaker 1: said with dat, he said he ain't got the bridge,
Speaker 1: rake gut, he said, Drake get a million dollars a show.
Speaker 1: He can't compete with that.
Speaker 4: Like I said, some people are impressed with the money,
Speaker 4: and some people are impressed with just true the true artists,
Speaker 4: the true.
Speaker 1: Artists that the motherfucker is. You get me.
Speaker 4: When those evils don't infatuate you know, motherfucker like, oh man,
Speaker 4: I gotta go have my own plane, or I gotta
Speaker 4: have thirty thousand platinum watches and I gotta have a
Speaker 4: watch worth two million dollars and shit like that. You know,
Speaker 4: you're impressing motherfuckers that will never be able to have shit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: for real, Why you gotta impress a motherfucker that will
Speaker 4: never be able to have the shit? Yeah, that's great,
Speaker 4: just as normal and motherfuckers will be satisfied. But you know, hey, crook, Yeah,
Speaker 4: let me ask you this, bro.
Speaker 1: You being one of them dudes man that you know,
Speaker 1: put a lot into his lyricism, have you ever had
Speaker 1: one of those labels tell you that you need to
Speaker 1: dumb your shit down?
Speaker 3: So absolutely, But you know what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 5: I had it all broke, i'd have been on three
Speaker 5: or four major labels. So I done dealt with all
Speaker 5: all of that type of shit. Motherfucker come in and say, well, hey,
Speaker 5: maybe you should make a song like this, you know,
Speaker 5: and play whatever the latest dumb down hit is. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I done have niggas tell me
Speaker 5: that they did the research and if you say the
Speaker 5: same word at least forty five times on the record.
Speaker 3: That it's more likely to hit.
Speaker 5: And try to make all the formulas that they can make,
Speaker 5: and you know that's what they do.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I.
Speaker 5: Done brought them some things that I thought was crazy,
Speaker 5: and it was like, nah, that's you gotta go talk
Speaker 5: about some bitches in the clubs, some big boty bitches,
Speaker 5: and we need to hear you talking about popping bottles
Speaker 5: and you know, all that type of shit. And I'm like,
Speaker 5: you know, I can use my imagination and do that,
Speaker 5: But when I was young, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, Nigga, I'm not living like that. So I'm rapping
Speaker 3: about what I'm living because that's what I seen.
Speaker 5: The niggas who are hung they posters up on my
Speaker 5: little fucking wall in my shackle. That's what they was doing.
Speaker 5: So but yeah, you got an RS. They used to
Speaker 5: do that, you know what I'm saying. So I had
Speaker 5: to carve my own lane, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I had to say, all right, since I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: play by their rules, i gotta get off of their
Speaker 5: motherfucking game board.
Speaker 3: And go independent, and I gotta go and.
Speaker 5: Create my own community that's gonna support the art I
Speaker 5: want to put out because I'm not playing the game.
Speaker 3: I tried it too.
Speaker 5: I had a couple joints, one with a con on
Speaker 5: it when he was hot.
Speaker 3: I had another joint.
Speaker 5: Then motherfuckers wanted like two hundred and fifty to break
Speaker 5: the record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, couse money to break the motherfucking records, a million dollars.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, yo, you know what, I'm just doing
Speaker 3: my own way.
Speaker 5: I always been that way though, you feel me like
Speaker 5: I always I'm never.
Speaker 3: Scared to turn turn the corner on what everybody else
Speaker 3: doing and do my own shit. That's what I had
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 5: And you know, now, that's basically where the game is
Speaker 5: at for independent artists now. The shit that I was
Speaker 5: doing ten fifteen years ago. That's what everybody is doing
Speaker 5: now to survive. They got social media platforms, They building
Speaker 5: their own communities up.
Speaker 3: They selling their own communities directly to the consumer.
Speaker 5: CDs, motherfucking vinyls, motherfucking T shirts and hoodies and hats
Speaker 5: and all that shit. See, I've been doing that. That's
Speaker 5: how I stayed here this long, you feel me. But
Speaker 5: now that streaming is only paying zero zero zero point
Speaker 5: three cents on a dollar, now, a lot of people
Speaker 5: are saying, damn, I need to be doing this. You
Speaker 5: know this, so they taking up that business model. But
Speaker 5: business models change. Used to be cassettes, then it became CDs,
Speaker 5: and it became streams.
Speaker 3: It's about to become something else.
Speaker 5: So I just think that on an artist, they need
Speaker 5: to get ready for what's coming because it's about to change.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: It ain't gonna matter what kind of rap you make it.
Speaker 5: I don't care if you're lyrical, I don't care if
Speaker 5: you're not. You feel me is about to change again,
Speaker 5: and I hope niggas is ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, man, I appreciate you coming on here, manic
Speaker 1: shopping up with us to night. Man.
Speaker 5: Hey man, you know anytime, man, you know what I'm
Speaker 5: saying I'm going to gainst the chronicles. Man, it's King Crooked,
Speaker 5: east Side Long Beach hip Hop.
Speaker 1: You feel me certified certified. You heard me? All right
Speaker 1: then dog, I'm money.
Speaker 3: All right, My brothers, y'all be safe. Piece and blessing
Speaker 3: to y'all and the family one love.
Speaker 1: Well it was King Crooked.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really hope this shit don't go to a
Speaker 1: place dog to go beyond rap because it hasn't fair
Speaker 1: too well with other communities.
Speaker 4: Man when it came to just funking with the West. Nah,
Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't, I don't particularly uh speak
Speaker 4: on people's or whatever they call themselves doing. You know,
Speaker 4: if it's dissing or it's beefing, whatever it is, that's
Speaker 4: just anywhere man. You know, when pride is involved, you know,
Speaker 4: and then you got people on the side, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, you don't know what can happen. So m hm,
Speaker 4: you know, you just gotta be careful when it comes
Speaker 4: to disagreements and hip hop as far as artists is concerned,
Speaker 4: because we've seen a lot of negativity generated from dudes
Speaker 4: beefing and hip hop and just gives us a bad
Speaker 4: name on just trying to create, you know, music and
Speaker 4: just have a voice for our type of lifestyle.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 4: A lot of us use this platform to speak to
Speaker 4: the masses of people to explain of where we come
Speaker 4: from and the walks of life we've been through.
Speaker 1: And it just it's just, you.
Speaker 4: Know, it turns into negativity because you know, niggas pride
Speaker 4: get involved, and some niggas want to stick their chest
Speaker 4: out and show how tough they are.
Speaker 1: Unfortunate.
Speaker 4: You know, football teams beef, but the end of the game,
Speaker 4: they don't be out there scrapping.
Speaker 1: Most of the time.
Speaker 4: You might got one or two personal issues, but you know,
Speaker 4: usually you can shake them. Mother Usually you can shake
Speaker 4: a motherfucker hand after competition.
Speaker 1: You get me like that.
Speaker 4: Even in a boxing match, you can beat each other's
Speaker 4: asses for ten to twelve rounds and then once that
Speaker 4: being bean go uh, you usually can congratulate a nigga,
Speaker 4: hug it up, shake it up. You know whatever. Hip
Speaker 4: hop is different. Like I said, a lot of niggas
Speaker 4: are street affiliated, even the dudes who call themselves you know,
Speaker 4: not those type of artists. You give me, yeah, and
Speaker 4: it seemed like you know a lot of artists now
Speaker 4: who gang banging? Who wants to claim gangs and you
Speaker 4: know want stuff, wants to affiliate themselves with gangs. N
Speaker 4: I said that singers included ain't just hip hop dudes.
Speaker 1: You get me, This.
Speaker 4: Life dollars is fascinating to a lot of motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Putting that red or blue rag in your back pocket, man,
Speaker 4: it's fascinating motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: And you know, a nigga come from the other side
Speaker 4: of the motherfucking planet and he wants to be affiliated
Speaker 4: with this lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Man, it's just until he see it's a full time job.
Speaker 4: So you know, I'll just watch yourselves man out there,
Speaker 4: Like I said, Uh, it's a different it's a different
Speaker 4: day or different Uh, it's a different time when it comes.
Speaker 4: Like I said, sports motherfuckers, you got other motherfucker all
Speaker 4: kind of different different entities that motherfuckers do. And at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know, that's just what
Speaker 4: it is. You know, you have a nice day or whatever.
Speaker 4: We have ties to the streets, man, with this hip
Speaker 4: hop shit, and a lot of niggas still want to
Speaker 4: you know, feel like, uh, their association to the streets
Speaker 4: is everything, man, So I don't give a fuck. If
Speaker 4: I'm if I'm crooning a bitch or serenading a bitch,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna turn around the mall nigga telling nigga this
Speaker 4: is so and so, and this is this nigga. I
Speaker 4: clang crip of blood and we gonna get it on,
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, y'all just gotta be careful out there.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You you there's nothing to play with when it's beef.
Speaker 4: And you know when you when you can when it
Speaker 4: can turn left.
Speaker 1: Y'all had a homeboy, man, whose son? What's going around
Speaker 1: spray painting? You know, catch names straight payton catch He
Speaker 1: was marking cat's hoods up. Man. They killed that boy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's treacherous man. So y'all just be
Speaker 4: careful with what y'all doing, man, and that sitting on
Speaker 4: that note, man, Y'll make sure. May y'all subscribe to
Speaker 4: the channel, man, you know, hit that subscribe button, leave
Speaker 4: a comment, and we out of here.
Speaker 3: Ye.
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