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Speaker 1: episode the Gangst the Chronicles podcast, where Gangst the rep lives.

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Speaker 1: It's your boy Big Steel with Jell. Y'all know when

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Speaker 4: You starting to show off already. I'm straight, my nigga.

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Speaker 4: Every dance could just moving the ground, moving around a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I with that ship, man with that ship,

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Speaker 4: with the Gangster Chronicles.

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Speaker 4: Still, you're gonna make me stop coming. Man, you better

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Speaker 4: We gonna stay with the regular ship, the Gangster Chronicles.

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Speaker 4: I ain't the one and only ship. I'm just me.

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Speaker 1: keep it going. Here we go. Right now, we like

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Speaker 1: to welcome every one to another episode of Against These

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Speaker 1: podcast your boy, big Shill.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna do the one and only Big Steel

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Speaker 4: in this bitch Madliboo's most wared motherfucking Yeah. Well, we

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Speaker 4: giving you all the juice now, man, you icon of podcasting.

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Speaker 4: You understand that's what they called my nigga this weekend

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Speaker 1: Right, just normal dude that don't figure some stuff out.

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Speaker 4: They was like, ship nigga, you you original? You a

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Speaker 4: nigga that's the originator or nothing. Hey, but you know

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Speaker 4: what the talk of the time when he was right now, Dog,

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Speaker 4: this Kendrick and this Drake record, Dog, I don't heard

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Speaker 4: everybody in them. Mama don't have an opinion on it.

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Speaker 5: To open that, you crack open that motherfucking notebook and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I really try not that man. Hip hop

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: Is making them listen to what people are what them

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Speaker 5: Who's saying what you know what I mean, Whose style

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Speaker 5: Like, that's the energy that you know, our arrows brought up.

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Speaker 5: It's real dope that some of that is present right now?

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Speaker 3: Feel me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so eight. When you first came in

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Speaker 4: Oh shit, man hip hop, just man rap, just hip

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Speaker 5: And but you know what though, that made for a

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Speaker 5: And it's like when you really about your art, you

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Speaker 5: You know, you just talking about this hip hop shit

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Speaker 3: So you're right. You know, Kendrick Man his fans, he.

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Speaker 3: He coming out of Compton Man.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, when you know what do his stuff spread?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you said the fashion shows and shit like he had.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know it's funny about the clothes though,

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Speaker 5: Hey, nigga might have been conjuring up some real shit, nigga,

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 5: So I've been dead ass seriously about hip hop since

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 5: They got their own life, they got their own energy,

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Speaker 5: I see. They want Drake to make a Nas type

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Speaker 5: feel me. Drake is making a record that fits his brand,

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Speaker 5: And I feel like we gotta stop wanting all these

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Speaker 3: Do so, I just I just listen with a.

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Speaker 5: Open with an open mind, man, And and you know,

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Speaker 3: You feel me from the from the clothes.

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Speaker 5: To everything, dad, because Nigga, I don't wear the same

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's nothing about advancing I guess it's

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Speaker 1: You get me.

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Speaker 4: Artistry is all kind of expressions, and he's always been

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Speaker 4: And on a worldwide scale. When you mentioned Compton, you

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Speaker 4: And Compton's most warning. So you you have the mindset,

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Speaker 4: Do the thing I don't like. I guess dude is

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Speaker 4: wuld be going at DUT's wife. I don't know that's

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Speaker 4: what I'm hearing, because you know I heard, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think Birdman said that Drake got three more records

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Speaker 1: Something like that. So I don't know. Man, I'm cool

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Speaker 4: I said, you going from the realm of just dissing

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I want to go and you know.

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Speaker 4: Search Court Records and divorce records and paternity records and

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Speaker 4: seeing if you got f's.

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Speaker 1: In school and shit like that.

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Speaker 4: You know, it goes to a different realm of dissing because,

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Speaker 4: like I said, now it goes to the element of beefing.

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00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: And how how hard do you take that? You feel? Me? Yeah,

435
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: because I don't know. Man. If I hear a regular

436
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: the dude going in on my wife, man, it's gonna

437
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: make me feel a certain kind of way. Trucks.

438
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, And a lot of people don't get that because

439
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 5: a lot of the comments and all that they egging

440
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 5: it on.

441
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: They yeah, they want them to get personal, and it

442
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: ain't personal or nothing, you know what I'm saying.

443
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 5: They want it, they want it, But as soon as

444
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 5: it turned into beef and it's spill over into the streets,

445
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 5: then hear the same people like, oh, they need to

446
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 5: chill and just keep it on wax. So, you know,

447
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of the people in the

448
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 5: comments sections understand that. Just because you don't view Kendrick

449
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 5: or Drake and a certain light, you gotta know they

450
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 5: they very powerful, paid individuals, and it could be somebody

451
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 5: and they entourage that's straight off the curves that's really

452
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 5: with it, and Mike feel like I need to set

453
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 5: it off if I run into anybody from the other side.

454
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: And then now we got.

455
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 5: A beef going on some street ship or on some

456
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 5: physical violence shit, and we're gonna look back at the records,

457
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And and it's gonna be

458
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 5: judged by the words, because words are the first weapons

459
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 5: in war.

460
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: Half the time, you feel me, and then it turns

461
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: into the other thing. So it's really you, right eight,

462
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: You're definitely right. My brother is leaving the realm of.

463
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 5: Who is the hardest MC, and it's going into a

464
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 5: whole nother dimension, you know what I'm saying. When they

465
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 5: get too into digging of this and digging of that,

466
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 5: I mean, that takes the fun out of it for

467
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 5: me too.

468
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: When they come to even.

469
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 5: Certain battle rap, it's like YO talking about a bunch

470
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 5: of unnecessary shit, like you like, you know, no shots

471
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 5: to the shave room, but it's a shave room rat.

472
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: And feel me, it's like, I ain't really with all that.

473
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 5: You know, we was just talk to verbally dismantled fools,

474
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And you could come with

475
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 5: the hardest lyrics the bars and everything and still lose

476
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 5: the battle in the court of public opinion because this

477
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 5: man said he know your wife sleeping with your cousin

478
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 5: and you know what I'm saying, and he come out

479
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 5: with the Instagram post proving it.

480
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 3: So it's just crazy, man, It's it's wild.

481
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Old Boy seemed like the type of dude that

482
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: he used his resources to go dig up shit on people.

483
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm shit. I'm basically in

484
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: a situation to where nigga, I can go hire me

485
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: some private investigators, Like if I'm going to court or

486
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: some shit, I'm gonna go pay somebody, some a couple

487
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 4: of thousand to go dig up some man. You can

488
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 4: go as far back is when a nigga used to

489
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 4: pee in the bed. You feel me. I want to

490
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 4: know if a nigga used to pee in the bed

491
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: when he was a kid, and shit like that, and

492
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: nigga nigga, you know, they want to expose a lot

493
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 4: of personal motherfucking issues, and to me, it takes it,

494
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: It takes it away from the realm of dissing to

495
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: where you basically ready to you know, you ready to

496
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: get hands on involved because now you are, or you

497
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 4: are digging into personal situations and shit, you know, like

498
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 4: you said, talking about people's families or moms or pops

499
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 4: or living situations growing up. You know how you used

500
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: to be as a kid and your mom didn't have

501
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: this or your dad didn't have that. You know, I

502
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: consider that you're getting into the realm of beefing. You know,

503
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: I'm aa turn it from yeah, nigga, I'm the hottest

504
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: motherfucker on the microphone, and nigga you or this and that,

505
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna turn it into nigga, you was a

506
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 4: poor motherfucker on fold stamps and y'all used to sleep

507
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: all in the same room as a kid and shit

508
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: like that. Now, like I said, now you're trying to

509
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: get into a situation to where it's unpredictable.

510
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you don't know where you can go?

511
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, nah, I just I'm just like, man, that was

512
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 5: a bar, you know what I'm saying.

513
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like you see it, and it's always the

514
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: it's always the homies, it's always the entourage. Let's face it,

515
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: ain't nobody who ever kicks Drake out of bounds. Ain't

516
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: nobody who ever kicks Kendrick gout of bounds. But you

517
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: will see they entourage about town if they're in the

518
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: same city or whatever, and that's when the stuff kick off.

519
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

520
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And that's the whole thing, you know what I mean.

521
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 5: So we don't have to worry about that when it

522
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 5: comes to country music and R and B and jazz

523
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 5: and rock and roll, you know, I mean, hip hop

524
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 5: has always had.

525
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: That element, you feel me.

526
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 5: And you know they said the rap cells was down

527
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 5: thirty seven and country music was soaring, and all of

528
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 5: a sudden, you know, these beefs breakout and Chris Brown

529
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 5: is rapping against the Migos and Drake and Kendrick and

530
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 5: j Cole and now all this rock em soccer excitement

531
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 5: is back, you know what I'm saying. But it's like, damn,

532
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 5: we can only bring our shit back with beef.

533
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: That what I'm saying. We gotta do some niggative shit

534
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: to bring hip hop back. That's crazy, ain't it. That's crazy.

535
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: Beef is leading to the renaissance of hip hop coming back.

536
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: I remember it seemed like that's been that's been the

537
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 4: forefront of what's going on in music the last couple

538
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: of years. Uh, And like I hate to talk about

539
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: shit like that because you know, I come from an

540
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 4: era where you know, we had disc records and niggas

541
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: had beef and and you know, we too were at

542
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: a point where we were uncontrollable when it came to

543
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: our attitudes and our mind state with music. But it

544
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: also led down a negative path in hip hop. You know,

545
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: it kind of put a lot of West Coast artists

546
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 4: on Paul's when the record companies were scared to, uh,

547
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: fuck with us.

548
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: You get me.

549
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: It seems like, you know, like you said, uh, it

550
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 4: seemed like every rapper that started coming out figured like

551
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: the foundation for my existence is gonna be beefing with

552
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: a motherfucker. I don't give a fuck if it's a

553
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: nigga from three counties away or fucking five states away.

554
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna wake up this morning and say, all

555
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 4: this nigga whacking. Yeah, fuck this nigga. You get me.

556
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: Look at all the beefing and all them and all

557
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: the you know.

558
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: Was it. Did we have as.

559
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: Much murdering and killing when we was rapping and shit like? Like,

560
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: I know niggas had their issues and shit, but I

561
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: don't know if we had as much killing and deaths

562
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: of hip hop niggas. When you know what I'm saying,

563
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: because if you look for the last maybe what the

564
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: last five years, niggas was dropping when it came to

565
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 4: hip hop.

566
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: Tell you what it is is a couple of things.

567
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 1: Eight we w wasn't on drugs. We was on some

568
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: weed and some Tennessee or whatever like that. But these

569
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: catch is taking heroin now, dog, these catches on heroin,

570
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: all those pills and you know, all this stuff. They

571
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 1: don't hear.

572
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: I get a lot of drug heavy because like you said,

573
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: we we advocated for weed and drinking a forty ounce

574
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, maybe sipping on some motherfucking

575
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: hen and See or some shit, but you know that

576
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: that Uh, the mind state today is fucking you cann

577
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: Do you some wean? You can do you some motherfucks

578
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: all heroin and heroin. You know, sniff you a couple

579
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: of this, pop you a couple of that. Everything is fine.

580
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Again.

581
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: We had we had dishes and beefs in our era

582
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: of hip hop minds was you know, late eighties to

583
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: you know, the beginning of the two thousands. Did we

584
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: have so much killing you getting me all the Chicago dudes.

585
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: It was dropping and all the other rappers and you

586
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: know all of what this and you know what it

587
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: is too. This internet is a motherfucker dog. Social media

588
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: people is you know, dropping bodies live on camera and

589
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy stuff. You seen cats get wet

590
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: up in their car while they on the live dog.

591
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: You know, they called anybody out there liking niggas lacking.

592
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: They letting cats have it broad they like you did.

593
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: That's what them drugs, man, They so brazen because of

594
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: them drugs. Bro, I'm telling you, I.

595
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: Don't think I never seen you know, like I said,

596
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 4: we had a treacherous with the neighborhoods and the banging

597
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: and the cripping and blood. But as far as hip

598
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: hop is concerned, you know a lot of motherfuckers who

599
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: claim to be grabbing the microphone or putting themselves in

600
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 4: the in in that situation was coming up, you know,

601
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 4: niggas was getting hit like shit like we on the street.

602
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Corn. Well, you know what it is, man, Like I said,

603
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: it's the combination of the drugs and you like in

604
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: front of it's like you own twenty four to seven

605
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: people got their phones with him. They going live so

606
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: it's like a motherfucker's gonna really try to prove his

607
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: manhood to the rest of this world. He don't want

608
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: to look like he oh, you feel what I'm saying,

609
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: So he go take it to a place to where

610
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: he probably don't have to go. We didn't have all

611
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: that pressure back then.

612
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the motherfucking social media got crazy.

613
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 5: I remember one year. I don't know if it's around

614
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 5: COVID or something, but they said two hundred independent rappers

615
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 5: got killed exactly.

616
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: Like if you go, if you go check right now

617
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 4: and go back to like I don't know, maybe five

618
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: to eight, five to seven years ago, you will see

619
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 4: a gang of just wrapped you like niggas is still

620
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 4: affiliated with the streets. I'm sure you know, but it's

621
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: crazy to see how many so called up and coming

622
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 4: hip hop rappers who was just getting smoked like like

623
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: not no, you know, we got the pop thing and

624
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 4: we got the biggie thing. You know, but that was

625
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: on We already know what that was about.

626
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: You get me.

627
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 4: You look up right now, it's thirty month fucking little

628
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 4: hip hop dudes that like you ain't even like, damn,

629
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: this dude not shot. This dude got killed this dude

630
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: got killed. This dude got killed. And that's what it's

631
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 4: fucked up for us, because you know, now it's like

632
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: it's not even you gotta be certified, so to speak.

633
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: You know, in our days, nigga, you didn't have a record, nigga,

634
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: you wasn't no, you wasn't on, You wasn't no hip

635
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 4: hop dude, you get me. You know, if you was

636
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 4: in the studio putting out records, that's what you know,

637
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 4: determined your status. Shit nowadays, motherfucker, I put out two

638
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: knixtapes and I'm you know, I'm certified.

639
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: You feel me. And then so a lot of those

640
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: you know, up and.

641
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 4: Coming rappers or rappers in their own communities or sections

642
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: or whatever, a lot of niggas is getting popped because

643
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 4: you still got them mother fucking neighborhood ties to the streets,

644
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: and beefing seemed like.

645
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: Beefing seemed like the way.

646
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: To uh well, be stain yourself, beef moving needle bullshit exactly.

647
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 4: So today you just a regular motherfucking rapper, you know,

648
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: trying to put our shit. Next thing, you know, you

649
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 4: go out shoot a couple of niggas or pop out

650
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: or get the arguing with.

651
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: A nigga on the internet.

652
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: Now, nigga, you the popular a rapper and shit and

653
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 4: you might not make it.

654
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: You feel me? That's for real, dog, you know what,

655
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna have both of y'all. How many years

656
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: ago did get Richie do try and come out like

657
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: twenty years ago? Probably to me that I think when

658
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: people saw that fifty had so much commotion around him,

659
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: it's like he came in the game with the beef

660
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: with joh Ru, who was the most popular category. Time

661
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: he got stabbed in the studio, he got shot, and

662
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: it's like he came out like the monster. You feel

663
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was almost like he became with

664
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: Tupac would have been had he you feel what I'm saying,

665
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: it was that same little negative or he just had

666
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: bullshit with everybody. He had the ship where he had

667
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: ship with almost every rapper. It was to the point

668
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: to where niggas was almost scared to say something about him.

669
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: And I think these kids saw that, and that's what

670
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: they'd been raised off. A dog. I think this whole

671
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: generation been raised off conflict.

672
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: That's the whole thing.

673
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 5: And I think that it's a deeper problem know what

674
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Number one, I wish niggas would have had

675
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 5: conflict resolution classes and elementary though just learn how to

676
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 5: not take everything from zero to one hundred, you know

677
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. That's one two. The drug get the

678
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 5: drugs mixed with the addiction to attention, like you said,

679
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 5: the social media shit, it's crazy. I mean the niggas

680
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 5: was niggas was killing niggas, go to the nigga graveyard

681
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 5: and film a rap video, you know what I mean,

682
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: dancing on the nigga grave. You know what I'm saying,

683
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 5: Like it's just got crazy, and you know, they started

684
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 5: locking niggas up and it was a new Niggas was

685
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 5: having number one hits getting locked up for the crazy

686
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 5: crazy shit in fucking in fucking jail for and then

687
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 5: to top it off, the label exact some of them,

688
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 5: not all, but some of them was like, oh yeah,

689
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 5: them the kind of niggas we want to sign and

690
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: for budgets behind and they was searching for niggas because

691
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 5: I don't have.

692
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 3: A couple labels. Hit me and ask me you ain't

693
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: got no little homies.

694
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 5: That's acting crazy in Long Beach right now that we

695
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 5: could you know what I'm saying, put on like they

696
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 5: looking for artists that got beef, the young niggas who

697
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: you know, took nines and shit all on the Instagram.

698
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: They looking for that.

699
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 5: So and then the executives, I'm like, okay, so I

700
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 5: get you that do y'all go to they listening parties.

701
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: Hell now, so the execs know that this person might.

702
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 5: Get killed before the album come out, I'm not gonna

703
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 5: go hang out with this dude that is listening party.

704
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put him in a type of contract to

705
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 5: where if he do die, I'm to get the insurance

706
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 5: off of you. Then I'm gonna have all rights to

707
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 5: his likeness and image, even on some digital shits in

708
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 5: case I gotta send a hologram or this nigga up

709
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 5: to Coachella.

710
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 3: Like it's really deep, you know what I'm saying.

711
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 5: It's deep, And I feel like in our era, we

712
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 5: still had a lot of people of the.

713
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: Culture sitting in them big offices.

714
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: We had rust with Simmons, and you know what I'm saying,

715
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 5: we had different people who were still part of this culture,

716
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 5: loved the culture, came up in the culture, signing artists.

717
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 3: You know, now, it's all about the laptop. That's the

718
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: an r.

719
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 5: Let me look at your SoundCloud, let me look at

720
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 5: your followers, let me look at your streams. All right,

721
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 5: you and some kind of beef on social media, all right, cool,

722
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 5: come on in and get a deal.

723
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they want now. Man. It's almost like

724
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: record companies, man, and just media and period. Man is

725
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: really profit enough of black misery and pain or in conflict.

726
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: This stuff just goes so much further. And then when

727
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: you find out that most of these major corporations they

728
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: have ownership in the Spotify and stuff like that, and

729
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: they also got a lot of money invested in these prisons. Right,

730
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: so if they can grow up and think about it

731
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: like this, they gonna make money from here on out

732
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: to the year three thousand. Because if they can get

733
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: if they can keep generation the niggas stuck on dope,

734
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: killing each other and just acting crazy, and that's the

735
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: popular thing they ain't doing up keeping the hold. They

736
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: just got a nice fresh supply.

737
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they win it.

738
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 5: But then you got the flip side where you got

739
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 5: young niggas like Lord Russell who figured out how to

740
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: do it independently, how to work social media.

741
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: To his advantage.

742
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 5: How to drop records about just having fun in the

743
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 5: Bay Area and get people to like it.

744
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: How to get his audience in.

745
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 5: Gauged to the point where now rappers that sell millions

746
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 5: of records, it's hitting him up and asking him, yo,

747
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 5: let me get down with you because he got a wave.

748
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 5: And you know that part needs to be highlighted too,

749
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 5: because it's a lot of young people following him and

750
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 5: they don't want to be the next statistic.

751
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: They want to be an artist.

752
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 5: Rap take care of they and l Russell is a

753
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 5: good example of what a young person could do right now,

754
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 5: and it's off.

755
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: Is the perfect example. But these little niggas don't want

756
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: to be l Russell right now. Man, It's like not but.

757
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: You still you looking at these little niggas that that's

758
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 5: that's already if you remove rap, they already.

759
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: They're still gonna be on the streets. You know what

760
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

761
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 5: That's that's not every young niggas. Some young niggas is

762
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 5: going to school playing ball. It's you know, it's some

763
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 5: young niggas out there that got they act together.

764
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: Them the niggas who want to be like Larrussell. You

765
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

766
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 5: And then you got the other niggas. It don't matter

767
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 5: about Rap. They was gonna be with the ship no

768
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 5: matter what. All Rap did was helped them get some.

769
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: Attention the shit, you know.

770
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 4: And that's the situation with that is, like you said,

771
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 4: there was a lot of young dude, there's a y'all

772
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 4: of young men who are still born in this poverty,

773
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 4: in these in these sections. And there's a lot of

774
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 4: these young men who don't have an aspiration to be

775
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 4: a Larussell. You feel me because of Nigga. Ain't nobody

776
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 4: in my neighborhood growing up trying to be a Larussell.

777
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: They trying to be a trag new Park. You get me.

778
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: So that's where it always turns, Like I said, you

779
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: you it all. I don't know what, like I would say,

780
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 4: product of my environment, right, there's a lot of.

781
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: Dudes who are who.

782
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: Are led astray from having the mind state of oh,

783
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 4: I don't have to be no banger or I don't

784
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 4: have to wound why I'm gonna be sports.

785
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard, you get me.

786
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: My son turned and he had a choice of not

787
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 4: to become a Larussell or MC eight or whatever, because

788
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: he had other choices. He grew up in the area

789
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 4: excuse me, where he wasn't faced with. You know, I'm

790
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: not going to the local elementary or junior high school,

791
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 4: you know, in in in Compton, I'm going to elementary

792
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 4: and in fucking h mirror, yetta, you get me. Uh,

793
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: there is no exposures. There might be a few wannabes,

794
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 4: you get me. It might be a few wannabes, But

795
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 4: as far as you know, walking home from school and

796
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 4: every fucking every fucking pole or empty house is hit

797
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: up with the neighborhood or or when I get off

798
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 4: the bus, the school bus, I'm walking through a through

799
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 4: an area where it's ten niggas on the block already

800
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 4: right now, niggas is influencing me because they know me,

801
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: you feel me. I live right down the street. So

802
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 4: it's gonna be some of that. Hey, my nigga, come

803
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: hang on, Well, what's up? WoT you want that influence?

804
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 4: So a lot of the rappers are already, like you said,

805
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 4: they already influenced or affiliated just by association of where

806
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: I'm staying. So now all these niggas who go in

807
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: at home and going nigga ride, they kitchen with a

808
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 4: computer and a motherfucker go with shit, nigga, let's become

809
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: the crew and let's start rapping. But now all they

810
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 4: raps want to be you know, beefing or fuck your

811
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 4: neighborhood or or who is this nigga? What does this

812
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: nigga say he from? Or he a rapper from from

813
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 4: that section. That's automatic beef. You get me. It ain't

814
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 4: even own no motherfucking record. Shit, it's just automatic beef

815
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: because that nigga's a rapper from that section. So you

816
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: got fucked up choices that. And then when, like I said,

817
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 4: when you see a lot of niggas who still want

818
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: to be gang affiliated because they feel like I got

819
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 4: to you feel me, they don't have that mind stay up. Well,

820
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: I really don't have to do that shit, you get me.

821
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: I know, I heard a little cat say one day,

822
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: and this really tripped me. I heard a little dude

823
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: tell me one day, man, I want a dialect mean,

824
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean you want to doubt? Listen?

825
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: He said, Man, I want to go out. He said,

826
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: I want to go out like gigga.

827
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 4: It was, it was, it was, It was a rite

828
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 4: of passage back in my time to you know, get

829
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: arrested and go to places like ya or or you know,

830
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 4: wayside or whatever.

831
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: That was right of passage if you was.

832
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 4: A motherfucking young hood nigga, Nigga, you finish, go do

833
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: some time, Nigga, they finish sing you the Ya.

834
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: Nigga.

835
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: You come home like the motherfucking super gang banger you getting.

836
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: That's the respect you get. And some of us like

837
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: just life talking to the HOMEI rich, Yeah, Nigga, Shit, Nigga,

838
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 4: I thought like nigg I thought that was everything, nigga

839
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 4: to get arrested and then go do some time and

840
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 4: then be up in the county and shit like nigga

841
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 4: where you from?

842
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: Telling nigga where you from?

843
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: And ship now niggas nigga, nigga we official, So man,

844
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: that was everything. As some mothersfuckers knowing is dumb as

845
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 4: fuck you in jail, But that that was your connection, nigga.

846
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: And it's crazy, man, because these little kids today, Man,

847
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: I swear to God forever. The Russell what's the other

848
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: brother's name with the dreads, Man, it's out there. It's

849
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: a couple of positive cash that's moving, man. But I'm

850
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna tell you that the main draw is the beef. Man.

851
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: Look at it, now, Look at this, look look at

852
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: the whole shit with social media. Now, man, we've allowed

853
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: motherfuckers that don't have no place in the culture to

854
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: come in and be real taste makers up in his bigs.

855
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: They just don't came up in hip hop and kicked

856
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: their feet up on the table everything else and their

857
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: opinion matter. They'll say some shit and have three thousand

858
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: of the motherfuckers retweeting that shit. And these motherfuckers don't

859
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: know the first thing about hip hop.

860
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then and then it's like we forget who

861
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 5: to be gangster own because it's like, all right, why

862
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 5: they get to come inside the house and hip hop,

863
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 5: kick their feet up, make all the money and disrespect everybody.

864
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: And keep more shit going in a little bit. Man,

865
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: if you look at the climate that's going on our dog,

866
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: it's like, dudes don't replace women as the number one

867
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: gossip columnists. Every podcast out there is on some gosp.

868
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: And shit, yeah, mossap Man, gossip.

869
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: Man, gossip Man. And I don't know if you get

870
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: much worse than that. And it's some shit out there,

871
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: crook that can get, They can really get motherfuckers hurt.

872
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, dog, this camera on this phone, who this a

873
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 5: motherfucker boy?

874
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm.

875
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: Saying it is, And I think that's the thing today, man.

876
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: I just think these kids got so much more shit to,

877
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: so many more distractions, so many more ways to get eliminated, man,

878
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: and they just I'm gonna tell you, this shit is addictive.

879
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: I've seen grown ass men going this motherfucking lite like

880
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: Boldfaced Live just to get some clicks and views, like like.

881
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 5: Of course, yeah, niggas used to come in the barbershop line,

882
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 5: get some pretention the motherfucker YouTube doing it.

883
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: And I think just one person, it's a whole lot

884
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: of people, man, And it's like beef is driving everything out. Man.

885
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: You know, the title's gotta be more slationious and everything else.

886
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: So I guess at the end of the day, Drake

887
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: and Kendrick go both benefit from this shit, man, a

888
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: great deal, because shit, Kendry, don't put this shit up

889
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: on streaming site, so already you don't have this, Like

890
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: I think he had like five million views in the

891
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: first hour or some shit.

892
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: Like that, number one on Apple right now.

893
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 4: I mean, people just like I said, people unfortunate. We

894
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: as black people too. We love some shit, love some

895
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 4: bullsh some shit. We love to see some bitches duking

896
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 4: it out. We love to see some niggas shooting at

897
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: each other or beefing or talking shit to each other.

898
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 4: We love to see another the next motherfucker, you know,

899
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: put the next motherfucker down. It's like it feeds some motherfucker.

900
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: You get me, like, man, I can't wait to see

901
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 4: a motherfucker kick So and Soul's ass, or I can't

902
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: wait to see what's so and so got to say

903
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: about motherfucking or.

904
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: Just like we couldn't wait for this shit.

905
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 4: Man, I can't wait to see what Drake say about Kendrick.

906
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 4: Now it's like I can't wait to see what Kendrick

907
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 4: say about Drake. And unfortunately, you know, it's it's gloves off.

908
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: You say something. He's saying something about the homies, old

909
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: lady to us, gloves off.

910
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: It's gloves off though, because now at the end of

911
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 4: the day, it's still all about numbers. I don't give

912
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 4: a fuck you get in this day and age, it's

913
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: all about numbers right now. How many more can I

914
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 4: stream than you?

915
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: You get me.

916
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 4: It's gotten to the point to where you, like you said,

917
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: you would think that you would have the respect of

918
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: like you know, well, I ain't gonna say nothing about

919
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 4: your mama or your kids, you know. I think that's

920
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 4: kind of the you know what we had as far

921
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: as the cold, but there is no cold today. When

922
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 4: it comes to the value of a stream, you get me, shit, nigga,

923
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 4: if this motherfucker finna give me ten million more streams

924
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 4: than hey, I'm gonna talk about your kids, I'm gonna

925
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: talk about your mama, your girlfriends. I'm gonna talk about

926
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: it all because people is waiting to listen it, they

927
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 4: waiting to hear.

928
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: Well, man, I'm gonna tell you this, and this is

929
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: what people don't know. I was talking to the homie

930
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: top Dog last night, you know, dude, though you know

931
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: here Tde and you know, me and him was just talking. Man.

932
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: We didn't talk talk very little about this shit. But

933
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: one thing that he did say is that Kate out

934
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: is his family and he don't appreciate cats using his name.

935
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: You feel what I mean to even in senorate, any

936
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 1: kind of disrespect, you know, right, So so he wasn't

937
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: cool with that.

938
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 4: Well that's what dude's gonna do. Like I said, uh,

939
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 4: nothing is off the table. You feel nothing, Nothing is

940
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: off the table. I don't give a fuck. And then,

941
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 4: like you said, a lot of a lot of situations,

942
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 4: money brings uh uh courage, you get me. Money brings

943
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 4: that motherfucking that that green courage, that that that blue face,

944
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: or that green dollar. Might a motherfucker feel invincible, So

945
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 4: find the exactly. But that's a lot of people, you know,

946
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 4: a lot of people who sit on a stack of

947
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 4: money or feel they're untouchable because you know, I got

948
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: a billion dollars, nigga, you can't touch me. So nothing

949
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 4: is off the table for some dudes. Uh, That's what

950
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 4: I said. Everything is is, it's everything. When a motherfucker

951
00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 4: respects you, you feel me, loyalty takes you nowhere. Man,

952
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 4: respect half motherfucker's not trying you really as they know

953
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: what you're about at this point. Like I said, at

954
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's all about the numbers.

955
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 4: It's all about the dollar sign and the numbers. Because

956
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 4: niggas feel like they can say whatever you're giving me,

957
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say whatever for a laugh or a joke

958
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: or a download.

959
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely I want to know this. I want to know

960
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 3: do we need more great records? Are we lacking great

961
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 3: records that can do.

962
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 5: As much streams as a disc record, that could get

963
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 5: as much attention as much love? Are we lacking those

964
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 5: great records? Like could could those great records kind of shifted?

965
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: Disfing and beefing ain't nowhere? We know that.

966
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, like, more great records coming from artists,

967
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 5: I mean global fucking great ass records like shit Niggas

968
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 5: straight up minutes. That motherfucker is a great fucking classic record,

969
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 5: dear Mama, great fucking classic record. If some of these

970
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 5: guys that are going at it with each other, if

971
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 5: they start concentrating on making great classic records, will that

972
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 5: shit the game somewhat?

973
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: You know what? I think, Krook, That's an interesting question,

974
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: and I've asked myself that before. I just think that

975
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,959
Speaker 1: we in the ara man to where people to get

976
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: somebody's attention is so difficult nowadays that you almost gotta

977
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: be some doing some bullshit. It's like every corner you

978
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: go around, somebody got something going on. Right. If you

979
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: walk outside and you can see somebody fighting fighting, ain't

980
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna be as shocking as it normally would because you

981
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: see it every day, right so, I think dudes is

982
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: just going over the top right now. I think they're

983
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: doing it because they almost have to. That's what I

984
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: don't think.

985
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 4: I don't think motherfuckers are influenced by making great records.

986
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: The females want to tell you they got the best pussy,

987
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 4: and the niggas want to tell you they got the

988
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: biggest wallets. Nobody wants to concentrate on just making good music.

989
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 4: If you get me, the females are all one. The

990
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: females want to let you know, Hey, nigga, I got

991
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: the best pussy, And then the niggas want to go, hey, nigga.

992
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: I got the biggest wallet.

993
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 4: Look at my Look at my motherfucking chinchilla covered G

994
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: five nigga.

995
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: You get me, you feel me?

996
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 4: And every bitch is comparing themselves and compete of who

997
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: got the best puss. Nough bitch, my pussy is the

998
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: no bitch, I got the best pussy over he's real, bitch,

999
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: I got the best pussy. You feel me, because that's

1000
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 4: all the records really are sustained about.

1001
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: You give me, what was you gonna say?

1002
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 5: Crook well shit, they got it. They got something else

1003
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 5: to worry about the minute, Like.

1004
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 4: All they care about right now is niggas is like, nigger,

1005
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 4: look at this big ass wallet I got. Nigga about

1006
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 4: Wiley's so big I had to break that motherfucker head

1007
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 4: on the toe truck.

1008
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: Nigga about wallet is so big, man, I'm gonna tell you,

1009
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna say his name because he wanted

1010
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: the homies. He told me straight up, he said, well,

1011
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Hendrick can't win as better because he ain't got as

1012
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: much money as Drake. It's all about the wilet And

1013
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: I said, dogs, So you really just judging all this

1014
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: based on.

1015
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's gonna turn It's not even gonna be

1016
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 4: about the lyrics. It's gonna be about who's the flossiest,

1017
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 4: and everybody you know that. You know, mister Man is flossy.

1018
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: You know, Kendrick not too flassy. Mister Man is flossy.

1019
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, people are more fascinated.

1020
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 4: People are more fascinated with your motherfucking pocket change. You

1021
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 4: get me, don't They don't give a fucking you know,

1022
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 4: Oh man, this nigga put out one of the dopest

1023
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 4: records of No niggas are more fascinated with how much

1024
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 4: money your motherfucker got. And you know that's the that's

1025
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 4: that's the that's what motherfucker's impressed is off of. You know,

1026
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 4: they're impressed off of the pocketbook, not the lyrical skills.

1027
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 4: They're impressed off the pocketbook. Wow, yep. And guess what.

1028
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 5: Guess what's gonna wipe their ass out in a minute,

1029
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 5: Ai nigga.

1030
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: Hell ya, it's coming, bro, Well it's here. What fuck

1031
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: you think? Kids?

1032
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 4: Pressed because a motherfucker can rap good? No motherfucker impressed

1033
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 4: because the motherfuckering nigga.

1034
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: This nigga rich, he's rich.

1035
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 4: Kendrick, don't portray that even though he got bread, my nigga,

1036
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: don't portray the you get me. Yeah, he not flos,

1037
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: he not you know, he not onto Rodge rolled up.

1038
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 4: You know, you know, all the pieces on and you

1039
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 4: know in the middle of the club, you know, with

1040
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 4: a hundred thousand and ones and you know, like you

1041
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna rent out of baseball stadium to take

1042
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 4: a bitch to dinner and shit like that. He not

1043
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 4: doing all that money. But money impresses a lot of motherfuckers.

1044
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the hommy told me that though though he

1045
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: said with dat, he said he ain't got the bridge,

1046
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: rake gut, he said, Drake get a million dollars a show.

1047
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: He can't compete with that.

1048
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 4: Like I said, some people are impressed with the money,

1049
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 4: and some people are impressed with just true the true artists,

1050
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 4: the true.

1051
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: Artists that the motherfucker is. You get me.

1052
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 4: When those evils don't infatuate you know, motherfucker like, oh man,

1053
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 4: I gotta go have my own plane, or I gotta

1054
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 4: have thirty thousand platinum watches and I gotta have a

1055
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 4: watch worth two million dollars and shit like that. You know,

1056
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,959
Speaker 4: you're impressing motherfuckers that will never be able to have shit. Yeah,

1057
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 4: for real, Why you gotta impress a motherfucker that will

1058
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: never be able to have the shit? Yeah, that's great,

1059
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 4: just as normal and motherfuckers will be satisfied. But you know, hey, crook, Yeah,

1060
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 4: let me ask you this, bro.

1061
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: You being one of them dudes man that you know,

1062
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: put a lot into his lyricism, have you ever had

1063
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: one of those labels tell you that you need to

1064
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: dumb your shit down?

1065
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 3: So absolutely, But you know what I'm saying, like.

1066
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 5: I had it all broke, i'd have been on three

1067
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 5: or four major labels. So I done dealt with all

1068
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 5: all of that type of shit. Motherfucker come in and say, well, hey,

1069
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 5: maybe you should make a song like this, you know,

1070
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 5: and play whatever the latest dumb down hit is. You

1071
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I done have niggas tell me

1072
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 5: that they did the research and if you say the

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Speaker 5: same word at least forty five times on the record.

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Speaker 3: That it's more likely to hit.

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Speaker 5: And try to make all the formulas that they can make,

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01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 5: and you know that's what they do.

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Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I.

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01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 5: Done brought them some things that I thought was crazy,

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01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 5: and it was like, nah, that's you gotta go talk

1080
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 5: about some bitches in the clubs, some big boty bitches,

1081
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 5: and we need to hear you talking about popping bottles

1082
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 5: and you know, all that type of shit. And I'm like,

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01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 5: you know, I can use my imagination and do that,

1084
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 5: But when I was young, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, Nigga, I'm not living like that. So I'm rapping

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01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: about what I'm living because that's what I seen.

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 5: The niggas who are hung they posters up on my

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01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 5: little fucking wall in my shackle. That's what they was doing.

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01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 5: So but yeah, you got an RS. They used to

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01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 5: do that, you know what I'm saying. So I had

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01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 5: to carve my own lane, you know what I'm saying.

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01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 5: I had to say, all right, since I'm not gonna

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01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 5: play by their rules, i gotta get off of their

1094
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 5: motherfucking game board.

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01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 3: And go independent, and I gotta go and.

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01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 5: Create my own community that's gonna support the art I

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01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,479
Speaker 5: want to put out because I'm not playing the game.

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Speaker 3: I tried it too.

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01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 5: I had a couple joints, one with a con on

1100
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 5: it when he was hot.

1101
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 3: I had another joint.

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01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 5: Then motherfuckers wanted like two hundred and fifty to break

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01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 5: the record.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, couse money to break the motherfucking records, a million dollars.

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01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 3: So I'm like, yo, you know what, I'm just doing

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Speaker 3: my own way.

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Speaker 5: I always been that way though, you feel me like

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01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 5: I always I'm never.

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01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,959
Speaker 3: Scared to turn turn the corner on what everybody else

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01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 3: doing and do my own shit. That's what I had

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01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 5: And you know, now, that's basically where the game is

1113
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 5: at for independent artists now. The shit that I was

1114
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 5: doing ten fifteen years ago. That's what everybody is doing

1115
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 5: now to survive. They got social media platforms, They building

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01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 5: their own communities up.

1117
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 3: They selling their own communities directly to the consumer.

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01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 5: CDs, motherfucking vinyls, motherfucking T shirts and hoodies and hats

1119
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 5: and all that shit. See, I've been doing that. That's

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01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 5: how I stayed here this long, you feel me. But

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01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 5: now that streaming is only paying zero zero zero point

1122
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 5: three cents on a dollar, now, a lot of people

1123
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 5: are saying, damn, I need to be doing this. You

1124
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 5: know this, so they taking up that business model. But

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01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 5: business models change. Used to be cassettes, then it became CDs,

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01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 5: and it became streams.

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 3: It's about to become something else.

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 5: So I just think that on an artist, they need

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01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 5: to get ready for what's coming because it's about to change.

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01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: Bro.

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01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 3: It ain't gonna matter what kind of rap you make it.

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 5: I don't care if you're lyrical, I don't care if

1133
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 5: you're not. You feel me is about to change again,

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01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 5: and I hope niggas is ready.

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01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, man, I appreciate you coming on here, manic

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01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: shopping up with us to night. Man.

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01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 5: Hey man, you know anytime, man, you know what I'm

1138
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 5: saying I'm going to gainst the chronicles. Man, it's King Crooked,

1139
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 5: east Side Long Beach hip Hop.

1140
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: You feel me certified certified. You heard me? All right

1141
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: then dog, I'm money.

1142
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 3: All right, My brothers, y'all be safe. Piece and blessing

1143
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: to y'all and the family one love.

1144
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: Well it was King Crooked.

1145
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 3: Man.

1146
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really hope this shit don't go to a

1147
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: place dog to go beyond rap because it hasn't fair

1148
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: too well with other communities.

1149
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 4: Man when it came to just funking with the West. Nah,

1150
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't, I don't particularly uh speak

1151
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 4: on people's or whatever they call themselves doing. You know,

1152
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 4: if it's dissing or it's beefing, whatever it is, that's

1153
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 4: just anywhere man. You know, when pride is involved, you know,

1154
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 4: and then you got people on the side, you know,

1155
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 4: you know, you don't know what can happen. So m hm,

1156
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 4: you know, you just gotta be careful when it comes

1157
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 4: to disagreements and hip hop as far as artists is concerned,

1158
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 4: because we've seen a lot of negativity generated from dudes

1159
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 4: beefing and hip hop and just gives us a bad

1160
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 4: name on just trying to create, you know, music and

1161
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 4: just have a voice for our type of lifestyle.

1162
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 3: You get me.

1163
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: A lot of us use this platform to speak to

1164
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 4: the masses of people to explain of where we come

1165
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 4: from and the walks of life we've been through.

1166
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: And it just it's just, you.

1167
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 4: Know, it turns into negativity because you know, niggas pride

1168
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 4: get involved, and some niggas want to stick their chest

1169
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 4: out and show how tough they are.

1170
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: Unfortunate.

1171
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 4: You know, football teams beef, but the end of the game,

1172
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 4: they don't be out there scrapping.

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01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: Most of the time.

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01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 4: You might got one or two personal issues, but you know,

1175
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,479
Speaker 4: usually you can shake them. Mother Usually you can shake

1176
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: a motherfucker hand after competition.

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01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: You get me like that.

1178
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 4: Even in a boxing match, you can beat each other's

1179
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 4: asses for ten to twelve rounds and then once that

1180
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 4: being bean go uh, you usually can congratulate a nigga,

1181
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 4: hug it up, shake it up. You know whatever. Hip

1182
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 4: hop is different. Like I said, a lot of niggas

1183
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 4: are street affiliated, even the dudes who call themselves you know,

1184
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 4: not those type of artists. You give me, yeah, and

1185
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: it seemed like you know a lot of artists now

1186
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 4: who gang banging? Who wants to claim gangs and you

1187
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 4: know want stuff, wants to affiliate themselves with gangs. N

1188
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 4: I said that singers included ain't just hip hop dudes.

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01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: You get me, This.

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01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 4: Life dollars is fascinating to a lot of motherfuckers.

1191
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: Man.

1192
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 4: Putting that red or blue rag in your back pocket, man,

1193
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 4: it's fascinating motherfuckers.

1194
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 4: And you know, a nigga come from the other side

1196
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 4: of the motherfucking planet and he wants to be affiliated

1197
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 4: with this lifestyle.

1198
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: Man, it's just until he see it's a full time job.

1199
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 4: So you know, I'll just watch yourselves man out there,

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01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 4: Like I said, Uh, it's a different it's a different

1201
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 4: day or different Uh, it's a different time when it comes.

1202
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 4: Like I said, sports motherfuckers, you got other motherfucker all

1203
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 4: kind of different different entities that motherfuckers do. And at

1204
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know, that's just what

1205
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 4: it is. You know, you have a nice day or whatever.

1206
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 4: We have ties to the streets, man, with this hip

1207
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 4: hop shit, and a lot of niggas still want to

1208
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 4: you know, feel like, uh, their association to the streets

1209
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 4: is everything, man, So I don't give a fuck. If

1210
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 4: I'm if I'm crooning a bitch or serenading a bitch,

1211
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 4: I'm gonna turn around the mall nigga telling nigga this

1212
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 4: is so and so, and this is this nigga. I

1213
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 4: clang crip of blood and we gonna get it on,

1214
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, y'all just gotta be careful out there.

1215
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: Man.

1216
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 4: You you there's nothing to play with when it's beef.

1217
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 4: And you know when you when you can when it

1218
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 4: can turn left.

1219
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: Y'all had a homeboy, man, whose son? What's going around

1220
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: spray painting? You know, catch names straight payton catch He

1221
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: was marking cat's hoods up. Man. They killed that boy.

1222
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's treacherous man. So y'all just be

1223
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 4: careful with what y'all doing, man, and that sitting on

1224
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 4: that note, man, Y'll make sure. May y'all subscribe to

1225
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 4: the channel, man, you know, hit that subscribe button, leave

1226
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 4: a comment, and we out of here.

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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 1: Well, that concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast.

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01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,920
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01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,160
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Speaker 1: leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for The gangst

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcasts of Norman Steel Aaron m c a Tyler.

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