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Speaker 1: The Timberwolves defeat the Lakers to take a two to

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Speaker 1: First, the timber Ward I thought Lebron and that fourth

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Speaker 5: Uh, just seem like it's two heavyweight fighters, man just

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Speaker 5: How many field goal attempts had two thirteen for twenty

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Speaker 5: They bringing the old Joe. Them boys ain't playing man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, they they came to play to night. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: it was a timely shots. It's too many, Joe, it's

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Speaker 1: look at points off turnovers, and look how many Minnesota had,

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Speaker 1: I thought the Lakers played really well the third quarter again,

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Speaker 1: kind of got away from him. You know, they had

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Speaker 1: But I thought the Lakers just turned the ball over

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Speaker 2: I thought they missed too many.

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Speaker 5: When we watch sports, okay o choe, we watched for

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Speaker 5: at a high level. Right, these dudes out here compete

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, because there's the thing because they put

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Speaker 1: times he's like, bro, that's up, Gay Vincent, that's a

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Speaker 2: I'm going on the top of y'all. Hey, Hey, the

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Speaker 5: And he drove it, he driven it out to the

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Speaker 2: And when base line snatched the screws.

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Speaker 8: At that thing, Hey, Joe, y'all, y'all think y'all think

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Speaker 7: Or was he just tired to night?

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Speaker 2: He said fool something or something something. He wasn't feeling right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he kept he kept cut holding his stomach or

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Speaker 2: It's hard to tell.

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Speaker 1: And I believe that's the expectations. And Luca's not gonna

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So I mean, listen, how you feeling now?

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Speaker 1: I feel good? No, no, no, no, no. Five is

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Speaker 1: obviously it's not happening in five. I feel good the Laker.

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Speaker 1: It can still happen in five five, it may not be.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that, Joe, don't do that a little while

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Speaker 2: O gosh.

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Speaker 5: The one thing that concerns me. You know this young

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Speaker 5: As long as they can take your home court, man,

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Speaker 5: they gonna be tough to be, bro, like, we need.

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Speaker 2: Bron needed fifty tonight to win. He needed fifty.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry he only one rhythm, had only one seam

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Speaker 2: But man, you need people to.

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Speaker 5: Put pressure on on that rim man, get in that

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Speaker 1: We needed Ruy. I mean, I mean something you never know.

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Speaker 1: I can never tell what I'm gonna get from Ruin.

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Speaker 1: Eight points is not nearly enough four rebounds, Bro, I

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Speaker 1: need more than that. I mean, Bro, you got thirty

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Speaker 1: eight points and you got I mean, you got thirty

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Speaker 1: eight minutes and you got yeah, eight points, Lebron, you

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Speaker 5: A minus nineteen. It was the highest plus minus. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just tough to overcome when you're look,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you thought that. I don't know

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Speaker 5: And like if Randall Randall Grinson like he's being like

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Speaker 5: and happening down there because they too small to deal

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But what I don't understand, Joe, I've never seen

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Speaker 2: The most lefties gonna go to that dominant hand.

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Speaker 2: You know they want to go to that dominant hand.

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Speaker 2: And they let random spend every time to the left,

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Speaker 2: I get it. I get it, Joe. It's a lot

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Speaker 2: easier said than done.

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Speaker 1: But you're not going to be I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: allow you to beat me. If I'm a boxer, you

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Speaker 1: out with your dominant hand. Now, you might catch me

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Speaker 1: with something I don't see, but it ain't gonna be

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Speaker 1: then once he picks up his dribble and he fakes right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the sky like I'm like, I'm David Thompson.

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Speaker 2: They come back limp and lay it up. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. Joe. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Joe, Nah, You're not wrong, But like I said, it

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Speaker 5: is a little harder than what you say. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he's been ultra aggressive on he was nine to ten

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Speaker 5: which lets me know. You know when he called, he

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know he's helping them.

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Speaker 5: Man, He's giving these guys wide open shots just by

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm go ahead, don't Joe, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to look up, look at the staff

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Speaker 1: because I don't really have it on my computer, Like

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Speaker 1: I would at home.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then the Lakers in trouble.

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Speaker 6: Hey Joe, Joe, the next game, the next game in

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Speaker 6: a minute, in the minutes, he heyet ain't looking good.

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Speaker 2: We got this.

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Speaker 6: Look listen, Lebron like like Joe say, Lebron gonna have

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Speaker 6: to score fifty. Luga has to. I'm sure if he had,

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Speaker 6: you got a stumer tummy egg. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 6: it is. Hopefully he's able to recover and come back

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Speaker 6: to playing. How we know, how we know he can play?

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Speaker 6: Austin Rids give us something like we did tonight. But

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Speaker 6: Uncus is it's not looking good?

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Speaker 1: Look I think for me, when I look, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at this, do I expect Lebron?

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Speaker 2: Can Lebron do it? Yes? I've seen him go thirty

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Speaker 1: You're asking an awful lot because the next game is

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be Sunday. So if if you think about it,

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Speaker 1: got two days off. So when you're older, you need

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Speaker 1: more time to recover. Joe, you need more time to

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Speaker 1: suit him. Send those stummer take boots. You need more

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Speaker 1: that red table. You need more of recovery. So I

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Speaker 1: this game he went straight to the locker room, putting

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Speaker 1: he got it on his back. So he's doing everything

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Speaker 1: he possibly can to start the recovery process as soon

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Speaker 1: as possible. But he is forty. He is there's no

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Speaker 1: another virtue. Also, like he gave you the night, they

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Speaker 1: really need Luca to play better than what he played.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully that bug.

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Speaker 1: Would be as a twenty four hour bug and it'll

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Speaker 2: But I don't think if you think about it, they

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the total, because I

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Speaker 2: That's fifty five, and Austin Reeves had twenty.

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Speaker 1: That's seventy seven point that No, but the problem is

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Speaker 1: We're gonna need. Okay, three, they sucked. They cancel each

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Speaker 1: to offset what nobs read and what uh, who's at

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Speaker 1: the Devin Cienzo what they gave you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, they hear some shots. I mean Devin.

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Speaker 1: touch earth and his step back and held the leg up.

436
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: Mike Conley got a rebound, ran out and banked it.

437
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 1: I don't know how he made it from how he

438
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: banked that from that angle, Joe, I still don't know

439
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 1: how he did it.

440
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 5: That's what the basketball guys, baby, he living right, you're

441
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 5: living right. Hey, you're living right. Yeah, basketball guys, give

442
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 5: you some grace. That's what That's why I said.

443
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Speaker 1: If you remember, and when they had COVID, he ended

444
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 1: up winning the horse competition because he's at dextriss he

445
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: could shoot either hand. Yeah, so if they would have

446
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: a horse competition, I would probably pick my I would

447
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: probably It'll be very interesting if Luca, uh, Mike Coley,

448
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: and Steph Curry would enter it. It'll be very interesting

449
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: because both all three of them can make some crazy,

450
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: ridiculous ass shots.

451
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, man, they do. Uh. I'm gonna tell

452
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: you something, Luca aar.

453
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 5: They're gonna have to get on the bandwagon with uh

454
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 5: uh with broun Ojoe.

455
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 2: You know, like.

456
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 5: It's gonna take at least two of them to probably

457
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 5: explode to you know, to get a game in Minnesota

458
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 5: because they.

459
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 2: Seeking Luca every trip, bro.

460
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 5: So you got imagine that he got the ball in

461
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 5: his hand on offense almost every play if Brin ain't

462
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 5: got it, and then defensively it's like we're seeking, were

463
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 5: seeking for you every play.

464
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: So he's having a lot of energy to.

465
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 5: You know, to to to be able to uh, you know,

466
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 5: put his stemp on the game man.

467
00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, he got he's gonna have to step up.

468
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think, Look, you gotta make him work

469
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna let you. I'm not gonna let

470
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: you rest on the defensive end so you can punish

471
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: me and use all your all of your energy for offense.

472
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: That's how you that's how you make an offensive player

473
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: exert energy. You make him work on the defensive end.

474
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: So hey, oh oh, you think you're gonna drop forty

475
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: on me and coast on it end. No, you're not right,

476
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna try to give you thirty. I'm gonna

477
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: try to make you exert energy. And now I'm gonna

478
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: put your ass in the pick and roll. I'm gonna

479
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: make you fight on the picks. I'm gonna tack you

480
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna make you exert burn some of that

481
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: energy so you don't have as much on the other end.

482
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Joe, I think.

483
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: And the thing is is that when you say go off,

484
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: they need to go off in an efficient manner. You

485
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 1: can't take twenty shots and make four and say well

486
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: I had twenty five points.

487
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 2: That's not good. You need to go off like Lebron.

488
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: You need to go off in an efficient manner for

489
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: it to mean something. And so I agree with you

490
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: to think those two guys are Luke and Lebron probably

491
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: need to team up for about in order for them

492
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: to win this series. They're gonna that seventy seven was good,

493
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: but they might need to be around the eighty five

494
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: ninety between the between the three of them. Joe, So

495
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: somebody gonna know a forty point, somebody gonna have to

496
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: have a high twenty or low thirty, and the other

497
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: guys's gonna have to be in the mid twenties in

498
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: order for them become I can't count on the other

499
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: guys that's gonna I can't go in and say, well,

500
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: I know Finish Smith gonna give me twelve tonight, Well,

501
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: Reui gonna probably give me sixteen.

502
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: I can't go in thinking that right right.

503
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: You know, we put a game play together, Oh, Joe,

504
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, oh, y're gonna give me his eight.

505
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: Who's gonna give me probably five to six? Okay, I

506
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: could correct rest this old Chris Henry. He probably gonna

507
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: give me four. One's gonna probably be about thirty forty.

508
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: So I can piscil day. I kind of know what

509
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get right outside of the outside of your

510
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: top three.

511
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what I'm gonna get from Ruin. I'm

512
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: not sure.

513
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm not really counting on the whole lot of points

514
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: from ban do I count maybe one three from Gabe Vistling.

515
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna get from anybody else.

516
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: And so it's hard because those guys go off, they

517
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: can still possibly lose.

518
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: But I know if those guys don't go off, they

519
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: don't have a chance.

520
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, and listen, it's damn the just as three.

521
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 6: I want to say two man, because sometimes you know,

522
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 6: res res can get hot.

523
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 7: When reason was on, he's on. But I like Lebron's

524
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 7: approach to the game tonight. He didn't. He didn't come

525
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 7: out trying to facilitate.

526
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 6: He came out and established dominance early, which he didn't

527
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 6: do in game two. Luca was on fire. He allowed

528
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 6: Luca to stay in rhythm. But Lebron approached the game

529
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 6: difference tonight. You know what, I'm gonna get myself a

530
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 6: rhythm and let the game go. Let the game come

531
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 6: to everybody else as it will, as it made Luca

532
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 6: wasn't feeling well to night.

533
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 7: Something had to be wrong.

534
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 6: Whatever it is, they got to fix it for the

535
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 6: next game, which is Sunday, right.

536
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: I think so, I think the next game is gonna

537
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: be Sunday.

538
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 7: Oh Joe, yeah, this is the next game is Sunday.

539
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 6: I think I think it would be who Lebron to

540
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 6: approach the game this same manner and being very aggressive.

541
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 6: Early in the game, I think he had sixteen, but

542
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 6: in the second quarter something like that, he had twelve Lebron.

543
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: Lebron had fourteen, He had fourteen, He had fourteen in

544
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: the second. He had six in the first, fourteen in

545
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: the second he didn't. He was like, okay, I think,

546
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: I think, oh Joe, he might have had five seven,

547
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: might have had like seven.

548
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: In the second and the third quarter.

549
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: And then he caught had back to back three that

550
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: it looked like he was about to let a number

551
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: one because Luca got to pass up to him in

552
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: a hurry and he just fumbled it. And then the

553
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: next thing you know, they come back down because when

554
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: he smoked that layup, they hit a three. Then he

555
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: fumbled the ball and then they come back and he'd

556
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: they get enough they get it so that those are

557
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: swings and points and in momentum when you do things

558
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: like that, and you know it normally happens like that, Joe,

559
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: you smoke one on one end, they come back and

560
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: get points on the other end. Yep, you turned them

561
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: all over and now they right back at you and

562
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: you kitchen. Yep, you got take care of the rock man,

563
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs. You know every position, you know

564
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: it's valuable.

565
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 5: But here's my thing. You got and man ain't even

566
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 5: shoot no free throws at night. Man, he's still ain't.

567
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: To me.

568
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 5: He had twin nine to night, but he still ain't

569
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 5: had one of them games, one of them signature games.

570
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 5: You know, I think I'm looking for him to go

571
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 5: out about forty forty five, Oh Joe, hearman.

572
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: Hop open So yeah, because if he goes for forty five,

573
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: Jay and Daniel's not gonna get twenty two shots.

574
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: So I hope you're right. I hope you're right. Now.

575
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: It may be okay, it might be one of them.

576
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 5: Official when you know, he was the best three point

577
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 5: shooter in the NBA this year.

578
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: He was fine.

579
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: We had the most, Yeah, he had the most threes.

580
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: He wasn't the best. He had the most threes. Listen,

581
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 1: he was five for ten from the three to night.

582
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: He's shooting at three ball now. Yeah, but if you

583
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: think about it, McDaniel with thirteen or twenty two, uh,

584
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: twelve or twenty six, I can live with that. But

585
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: he got he made about three in that fourth quarter.

586
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: He made some threes in the fourth that kind of

587
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: that bay just lkay, the game's over. And that's what

588
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: you do. You want the closer, you want your clothing.

589
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: When he come in Mo Rivera. When the Yankees got

590
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: to the night, sometimes he got a four out saved,

591
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: but most of the time, ojo. When they open that

592
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: bullpen in the ninth Inny and they say end of

593
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: the same man, and he come by that thing, and

594
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, he got one pitch and all he throwt

595
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: is that cut fanstball that cut him. He go, that's

596
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: my clothes, and that's what you want. You want your closer.

597
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: I will put them all in your hands, delivered, get

598
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: us this win. He's putting the ball in that man's hand.

599
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: And he made every right play. He hit the open

600
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: guy or he finished at the rim. So I cannot

601
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: complain about you know, they had a lead. Cause look

602
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: the Laker like, Okay, we're gonna make your y'all. Hearn

603
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: this one close ball game? What did they do three?

604
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: Instead of being now you're up five?

605
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 2: What he do again?

606
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: He come back two point another three? Give it to me,

607
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: Give it to me, now come on, now come. I'll

608
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: be waiting for it, I mean wait for Yeah. So

609
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: I cannot complain because a man did it what we're

610
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: supposed to do.

611
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

612
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: And and I'm thinking, if you're a coach, you are

613
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: jj reddick, Joe, you ain't thinking Jay McDaniels about to

614
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: give you a thirty bomb? You, Joe, you ain't thinking. No, no,

615
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: give me give me the stats. How many times did

616
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: j McDaniels have thirty in the season. This is a

617
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: career high for him. It was a career high, folks.

618
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 5: It was a correct But listen, when you got your

619
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 5: when you got your main guy and man pushing for him,

620
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 5: pushing him for his coach star, you know, feeding that

621
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 5: confidence into him like that, like he gonna perform like this.

622
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: You know he gonna have some some some career high games.

623
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm looking for him to have another one. I'm not.

624
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest

625
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: with you. He's a starter, but he's a role player,

626
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: and role players that I will. I can see this.

627
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: They normally play better at home. Yeah, yo yo yo,

628
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: you oh Joe, your third point receivers. They normally play

629
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: back at home crime backing them as opposed on the road.

630
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: And so we understand guys are very familiar in the environment.

631
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: Got no problem with that. But I'm not counting on

632
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: him to give me another thirty piece. Uh, Julius random,

633
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: Look like you said, he's the bulldog. You're asking an

634
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: awful lot because you don't really because if you asked

635
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: Lebron to bang with you basically the whole night, he

636
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be getting nothing on offense, not that point,

637
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: not the bank, not the bang, the bank, because Julius

638
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: trying to bang. Listen, It's that's why you had them

639
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: little mishaps at the end of the game. Mislay up,

640
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: just a fumble of the bottle because I knew when

641
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: if he had caught that bob, he probably gonna let

642
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: it ride for three Yeah.

643
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.

644
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. He's smoked. He's supposed to do that one. He like, man,

645
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: I ain't even get I ain't got it. Hey, I

646
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: got I ain't even got it in me tonight. But

647
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: uh I thought, I thought, look you could we can

648
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: sit here and say, yeah, they missed too many free throws. Yes,

649
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: they turned the ball over, but somebody forced those turnovers. Now,

650
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: the misfree throws that you just missed, that's a lack

651
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: of concentration. Now you can't miss six free throws in

652
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: the first half. You can't because now you're trying to

653
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: stretch the lead. But those turnovers, some of them, I

654
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: mean Luca dribbed the ball off the back of half,

655
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: the back of his foot, Rudy Gobert snatched, Rudy, Rudy

656
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: Gobert took the ball out your hand. Luca really him down,

657
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: he wanted him.

658
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 5: And three, you know, from you picking up from game one,

659
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 5: picking up the energy, eir for making him work on

660
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 5: both fans of the floor at some point. This is

661
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 5: the plan is to wear him down to where he

662
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 5: make those mental type of mistakes, and you know it

663
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: helps the Timberwolves.

664
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what's been happening. That was, that's

665
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: that's that's that's how you have to do it. I mean,

666
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: you got a guy like Luca, He's immenstally confident. He

667
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: sees a couple go in, now he's gonna start. He'll

668
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: go like, okay, okay, okay, I got it. But and

669
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: then and the thing is with him, if you watch him,

670
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: he could miss three or four threes and then he'll

671
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: go on the hot stretch and he'll make four or four.

672
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: The shot that he hit on Julius Redder, he had

673
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: no shot. He had no business making that, man, I

674
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: don't know what first of all, don't know why he

675
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: took it. Listen, m all make it. It was some

676
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: elite shot making. I'm talking about tonight. I'm talking about

677
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: them dudes was making some tough shots.

678
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: Bro.

679
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 5: This is why we watched man, the game was. It

680
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 5: was definitely fun to watch the night. Them dudes compete

681
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 5: at a super high level, which is why we're starting

682
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 5: to deal with a lot of these injuries in.

683
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: This postseason too.

684
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 5: By the way, Yeah, guys are playing hard, man and

685
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 5: you having these freak freak accidents.

686
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 2: Man, you know, one little injury could could you know? Drail?

687
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: Some teams playoff.

688
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: Host, you know what I mean, You're you're you're right,

689
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: And I think the thing is is that got First

690
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: of all, the Lakers are really challenged defensively because you

691
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: got a forty one year old guy that was an

692
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: All NBA player, but he can't move like he once could.

693
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luca and aar they're not good defensive place players.

694
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: So you got three guys really that are not defended.

695
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: First of all, when you put those guys out there,

696
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: Ruin is not known as a defender. That's not what

697
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: he's good at. During your Phinnish Smith is okay. I

698
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't say he's an elite defender, but I think he's okay,

699
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: he's adequate. So you got a bunch of guys. You

700
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: got a bunch of guys that don't defend at a

701
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: high level and they can't protect one another. Right, So

702
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: now I don't got no look when I'm puting Lebron

703
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: at the five, Yeah he is back like the fence

704
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: runt he Ruin on rud playing the five. Whomever four

705
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: or five doesn't matter. Yeah, cause heyse, when.

706
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 5: A man come through that, it's old lady, old lad,

707
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 5: he coming to that.

708
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: You ain't to put me on your card, your car,

709
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: damn your poster, because don't know what to buy a

710
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: poster no more, they got cards. They got it, So

711
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: you're not finn have man signing signing over the top

712
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: of Mike.

713
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: Listen, I can't believe you. Look at Joe with that

714
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: man all the way't.

715
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 5: Even thinking about look trim, Hey, I tried.

716
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: You know, in the playoffs, Joe, you do things you

717
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: don't normally do. Right now, Old Joe, you know what

718
00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You go over with the middle.

719
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: Damn, that's really hot, but I got to give it

720
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: an effort. No, don't feel Hey, Joe, you don't.

721
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: You don't.

722
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 8: You're gonna get blowed up like damn. Hey, how fought

723
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 8: you back? How about you back there? I can't, Joe,

724
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 8: I'm looking like that.

725
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, Hey, look I would have been already

726
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 5: on that block over them for he even went baseline,

727
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 5: just to let him know, don't even come this week.

728
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 5: I'm cutting out. Let that man come Baseline, boy. I

729
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 5: know you.

730
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: I knew it was over with.

731
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: Oh hey, I gotta catch it on Joe. Hey, you

732
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: just I'm gonna catch it running on away with you.

733
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna jump you dunk it on't be you

734
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: i'mnna run down away with you.

735
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: What you doing?

736
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Hey, you're not finn put me on You're not finna

737
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: put me on?

738
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: No poster.

739
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 5: Don't nobody want that smoke when that young boy comes.

740
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: No, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not fitna be on

741
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: your highlight. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not.

742
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: I'm not.

743
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: Uh your game for it Sunday? Uh, probably no, it's not.

744
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the it's probably gonna be the late game,

745
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: Probably gonna be late game? What type? What type? What

746
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: time do they play as? Actually gonna look up the

747
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: time they probably what you thinking, Joe, you think they're

748
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: gonna be what the third game?

749
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: You're gonna be prime time they playing? And member, I

750
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: don't think.

751
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be prime time because uh

752
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: who Uh, it's gonna be the second game, the freak.

753
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: Three thirty game.

754
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: It is, it is, it's not, well, I guess five

755
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: thirty would be considered prime, but it's it's it's gonna

756
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be ABC game.

757
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well yeah, because you.

758
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: Got at Maddy Luca, because ain't nobody, ain't nobody else

759
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 1: got stars like that. You got man, you got Luca,

760
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: you got Brown. Ain't nobody else got three superstars playing

761
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: like that. Not Boston, uh not not uh Indie Milwaukee,

762
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: not the Knicks, and and and and Detroit. So nobody

763
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: has what they have. Okay, So New York Detroit is

764
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: the ten a m Gay Lakers, Minnesota twelve thirty, and

765
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: then you got Boston Orlando huh, which means it's one

766
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: one one. It's what you're looking at it as you're

767
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: looking at it at specific time. But no, it's one o'clock,

768
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: and then's the three thirty game, and then you got

769
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: the uh, the seven, and then you got the six

770
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: thirty games. So uh, it's gonna be We're gonna they

771
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: gonna bounce back. I like, hey, I'm not over the concerned.

772
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm not over concerned. I love I love I love

773
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: the confidence. I love the confidence. I love the confidence

774
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: that you have in your Lakers.

775
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 7: I like it.

776
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah we have.

777
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a very interesting, a very different conversation

778
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: on Sunday night, Joe.

779
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: They aren't worry. Hey, they got they need to win

780
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: Game four. We gonna win. Hey, nonna need you eat?

781
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Uh one? Okay?

782
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, hey now you know you saw you saw

783
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: just a sample of what gold James is cable love,

784
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: you just saw a sample.

785
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what they could do.

786
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 6: Okay, hold on, hold all on, matter of fact, matter

787
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 6: of fact, how confident are.

788
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: You getting my money? Because you tell you're gonna have

789
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: my money in Green Bay? All off scale of one

790
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: to ten, scale of one to ten. How confident are

791
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: you in the Lakers winning game? Winning winning game?

792
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 7: Folk?

793
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: Say four five.

794
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 7: On the scale of one to ten point five.

795
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 5: It courl that, hey, you some of them provided you

796
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 5: was talking aboudy, you better send them some of them

797
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 5: in the game.

798
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, Lucas, you know I look, excuse me.

799
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: Before we get to the rest of these NBA games,

800
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: we gotta start to talk about what happened. Not only

801
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: yesterday last night, Oh Joe, you and I were at

802
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: lambeau Field for the first round round, but today rounds

803
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: two and three has passed and should door Sanders hasn't

804
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: been selected. One hundred and two pigs five quarterbacks elected

805
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: cam Ward cam Ward.

806
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: With number one overall. No surprise there.

807
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: We knew that once they had he had his workout,

808
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: they they canceled all other official visits that told me

809
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: everything I needed to know. Boom now, Jackson Dark, Tyler Shuck,

810
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: Jaylen Milroe, Dylan Gabriel. Now for for context, I want

811
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: to provide contacts, oh Joe, because that's what we like

812
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, Daniel Jeremiah had Shaduur the second ranked quarterback.

813
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: Four days ago. Cam Ward was the eighth overall best player.

814
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: Shaduur was the twentieth best overall player, Jackson Dark the

815
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: thirty sixth overall best player, Tyler Shuck seventy fifth overall

816
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: best player, Jalen Miroe eighty sixth.

817
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel won forty eight. Mel Kiper Junior.

818
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: The Guru just four days ago had Shaduur ranked over

819
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: cam Ward. He had shr Door as the fifth best player,

820
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: cam Ward as the sixth best player. Jackson Dark at

821
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: the twenty eight the best player, Tyler Shook forty six.

822
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus had him second behind cam Ward just

823
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: yesterday morning.

824
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: But we saw today cam Warden cam Ward went first.

825
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: The Giants traded back into the first round on show

826
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: to take Jackson Dark. In twenty fifth Tyler Shook with

827
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: forty to the Saints, and we thought Bear Shoulder could

828
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: possibly be nine, go nine to the Saints.

829
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: Bear.

830
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: No, they take Tyler Shuk Jalen Milroe ninety second overall

831
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks and Dylan Gabriel ninety.

832
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: Fourth to the Browns.

833
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Now we were there were talking about well, Shador Arm,

834
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: you know you're outside of Cleveland and then you got

835
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: not not not not.

836
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 7: Don't start that shit.

837
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: No, no, just give me some I'm gonna tell you.

838
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Let me give me a second on Joe Baltimore outside Pittsburgh,

839
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: got Cincinnati, Cleveland. I don't see what Dylan Gabriel arm

840
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: is any stronger than your doors. I could be wrong.

841
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: I could be I could be, but I don't know.

842
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: And I know I'm gonna turn it over you owe Joe,

843
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: because I know Joe got questions, I'm gonna turn over you.

844
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this before I do O Joe.

845
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: In all my years that I go back to, like

846
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: really following the draft and understanding where players are going

847
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: getting drafted back in eighty seven and almost forty years,

848
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this.

849
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, uncle, I've never seen nothing like this myself. Obviously.

850
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 7: I know I only played a short time, but I've

851
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 7: been around long.

852
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 6: Enough to know obviously the year that the eleven twelve

853
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 6: years I did play, and all the time i've been

854
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 6: I've been retired and enjoying the game and watching it

855
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 6: from afar and understanding how player, how good players are

856
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 6: regards to what scouts may say, the iron the sky

857
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 6: doesn't lie. I washed the door play from high school

858
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 6: to college in Jackson State to what he was able

859
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 6: to do at Colorado.

860
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 7: I want everybody to understand that you're never biggot in

861
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 7: the program. You'll never be bigger than the program, no

862
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 7: matter who you are, and they will show you.

863
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 6: They will always remind you at any given time if

864
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 6: at any point you think you are bigger than the program.

865
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 7: And that is all we seeing.

866
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 6: That's all we're seeing right now, Joe Unk, that is

867
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 6: always seeing right now regards to who you are. There's

868
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 6: some things I think Prime might have said. I don't

869
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 6: want to quote it, but he would.

870
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 7: He where he said. It's similar to.

871
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: We're gonna go, we go what.

872
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 6: Archie Manning said when it came to Eli. Same thing,

873
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 6: no different anyway. I got something today I really want

874
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 6: to read.

875
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: Chat.

876
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 6: I want you to listen to me real quick. I'm

877
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 6: not here to store up. I'm happy for everybody that

878
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 6: got drafted. I want you to listen to something that

879
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 6: was sent that was sent to me on Instagram chat.

880
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 6: Y'all stay with me real quick and just listen to

881
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 6: me very very closely.

882
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 2: Uncle.

883
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 6: What we were winnising once again is the machinery of

884
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 6: a system that is never quite known what to do

885
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 6: with a free black man, much less than a free

886
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 6: black family. The NFL, with all this pageantry and power,

887
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 6: finds itself uncomfortable, even threatened, when it likes of the

888
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 6: Sanders family walk into a room, not asking for seat

889
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 6: of the table, but daring to bring their own dion shador.

890
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 6: This family has refused to shrink to fit the confines

891
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 6: laid out for them, and so the machine does what

892
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 6: it has always done. It seems to diminish, to distort,

893
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 6: to remind them and us that there are still a

894
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 6: place for black folk, and is not at the head

895
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 6: of the table but the tragedy, you see, it's not

896
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 6: in their refusal to bow, but it is in the

897
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 6: nation's sphere of black excellence unchained. The fear that has

898
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 6: always been the real danger, not the power of our stride,

899
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 6: but the shadow we cast when we stand upright, unafraid

900
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 6: and unapologetically ourselves.

901
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking. I was talking to my sister.

902
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: She said, well you thanks your door. I said, Libby,

903
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. If he don't go

904
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: in the second round, I think he might slide out

905
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: of the third.

906
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 7: Bunks all the games.

907
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: It's all look your dress, your draft story. My brother's

908
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: draft story was a lot different than mine. My brother

909
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: didn't have to wait first round, seventh pick on a plane,

910
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: on the plane, the Green Bay boom you second round? Hey,

911
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: hold with with with red, flash with with with with

912
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: character issues, school to school, bounce from over and over?

913
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: Why do you go here? Why do you go here?

914
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Bad?

915
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 2: Still?

916
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 6: Second round? We're taking a chance on him. There ain't

917
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 6: no no off the field issue is what you do?

918
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 6: No issue, no nothing. Oh he's always cocky. I have

919
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 6: a question women, John Woben, Johnny Manziel, cocky.

920
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: Oh, give you one better. What was Baker?

921
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 7: What was Baker Mayfield? What was Baker Mayfield?

922
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 6: Okay, now, now now what I will say when it

923
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 6: comes to college and you watch film that motherfucker.

924
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 7: IM sorry, Johnny Manziel and Baker Mayfield? What they played?

925
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: What.

926
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 6: They were absolutely awesome. But again, you can't take away

927
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 6: what Shad was able to do. At a Denmer, Colorado

928
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 6: team that won one game, they come back the next

929
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 6: year with Shador win for what.

930
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: And then the next year I think they went nine.

931
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah I heard what? Did I hear you?

932
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: I heard someone says that his confidence doesn't match your game. So,

933
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: in other words, he does a lot of talking and

934
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: his game is not indicative of the type of bravado

935
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: what mm hmm?

936
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 5: Hey, okay, oh Joe, So yeah, question is do y'all

937
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 5: even think he'll get drafted at this point? I mean,

938
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 5: what we do? We do three rounds already? Oh Lord,

939
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 5: have mercy, Joe. I mean, look, definite. I started to

940
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 5: think about it. I'm like, hold on, I'm only watching.

941
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 5: I'm trying to see two get drafted. I'm like, hol

942
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 5: you know, I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping he goes

943
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 5: in the fourth round. Because, okay, let me ask you this.

944
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: Teams that needed a quarterback, what do they do they

945
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: took a quarterback in the second or the third round. Yeah,

946
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: if you already took a quarterback in the second or

947
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: third round, what the likely lot you're taking a quarterback

948
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: into four, fifth, sixth, or seventh round.

949
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 6: All right, So now you tell Now you're telling me

950
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 6: the people that you did pick in the second and

951
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 6: third round you feel they're better than your door. So

952
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 6: at what point does it come on a team as

953
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 6: I'm not even gonna mention anything about free agency.

954
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 7: What if they prove a point in making way to

955
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 7: the seven?

956
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: It is possible, Joe? What what?

957
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: What?

958
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 7: What point are they trying to prove?

959
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 6: Especially at this point, Joe, I've never seen I've never

960
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 6: ever seen anything like this.

961
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 7: I'm not talking about I'm not talking about black and white.

962
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 7: I ain't talk about none of that. I'm talking about

963
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 7: based on what I've seen.

964
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 6: On film with my own eyes, where he was red

965
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 6: the other quarterbacks compared to other quarterbacks outside of camboard.

966
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 7: What are we looking at?

967
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not a scout, I'm not a GM, but

968
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 6: I do have conversations. I do understand and know the game.

969
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 6: You're not telling me everybody that had drafted before him?

970
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 6: What are we talking about it?

971
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 7: Again? I'm happy for everybody that got draft.

972
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying we're not trying to diminish anybody.

973
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: We're trying to make sense of what we're seeing with

974
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: your door, because I think the thing of what was

975
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: O Joe, if there was an injury that we didn't

976
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: know about, we saw will will hire the cornerback out

977
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: of what you call him. He had a propicity when

978
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: they gave him a scare. They say he has a

979
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: high risk for knee injury, so he slid down. Okay,

980
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: if there's a red flag that we don't know about,

981
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: but I don't the guy got great. He was on

982
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: the I think the honor roll. I think you have

983
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: a great GPA. He's never been in trouble. The numbers

984
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: speak for themselves. So for me to see a guy

985
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: rated this high with no issues, that's what's puzzling. Look

986
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, O Joe, you and I don't know,

987
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: excuse me what those thirty two teams and how they

988
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: view him. You know, they say beauty is in the

989
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: eye to be older. You think that's good. I don't

990
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: think that bad. You right like red, I like black,

991
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: You like this, I like that.

992
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

993
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't know based on the rankings of all these

994
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: people that get paid to do this, and if their

995
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: paion is subjective, But nobody. I don't think anybody really

996
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: has your door pay cam Ward's, like mel Kiper has,

997
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: should do it one. As far as quarterback, most everybody

998
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: had him two behind cam Ward.

999
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: But to see this precipitous fall, this precipitous drop.

1000
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: And guys, I mean some guys had Dylan Gabriel uh

1001
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: when they had the ranked the one hundred and forty

1002
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: eight best player, Mel Road the eighty six best best player,

1003
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: Kyler Shilk seventy fifth, should do it. Almost never got

1004
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: past the twentieth best player in the draft. He was

1005
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: twentieth on some people's board. He was the fifth best

1006
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: player on some people's board. And he's he's a Day

1007
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: three possible. Well that well that it's day three, so

1008
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: you get one, two, and then you go, you know,

1009
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: around four through seven.

1010
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 6: Listen, I've never seen I've never seen collusion like this

1011
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 6: before ever.

1012
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 7: I've never seen it.

1013
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: And you know what it is.

1014
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 6: Let's call the spade the spade for those that are watching,

1015
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 6: for those that in his chat. I'm not saying it

1016
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 6: is anything wrong with those that were drafted before him.

1017
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, based on my knowledge of the game

1018
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 6: and understanding of football and what I've watched throughout the years,

1019
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 6: especially from.

1020
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 7: That specific position.

1021
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 6: Now, the only thing I can say, the only red

1022
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 6: flag for them, it's his approach to the game and

1023
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 6: is confidence. I'm assuming that they don't like that, But

1024
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 6: how do you not want a player to feel the

1025
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 6: way he feels? How do you not want a player

1026
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 6: that believes in himself, in his skill set and what

1027
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 6: he's done and works his ass off to get to

1028
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 6: that could do the only thing, But that can't be

1029
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 6: a bad thing because there have been other players that

1030
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 6: have come before him that approach the same game, but

1031
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 6: that same demeanor, insame, attitude and belief similar to him.

1032
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 7: So to me, it really makes no sense.

1033
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 6: But again nothing and they will always time and time

1034
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 6: remind us in certain instances.

1035
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 7: That you will never be bigger than the machine or

1036
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 7: the program.

1037
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: And that's all this is.

1038
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 7: That's all that comes down.

1039
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: And it could be it could be a good thing

1040
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 5: for him too, you know what I mean, if he

1041
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 5: do get an opportunity.

1042
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: On his shoulder. Man, You know what I mean?

1043
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, for all the dollars, and they say it is

1044
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 5: the people who didn't believe in the teams who continue

1045
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 5: to pass up on him.

1046
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You use that firing desire

1047
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: when you touch the field, bro, you know, you let

1048
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: him know what's up. So I don't know.

1049
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: It could be a blessing in the sky tom Brady,

1050
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: but people that were tom Brady went to win the

1051
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: sixth round.

1052
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: But tom Brady wasn't as rated as high as your door.

1053
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was a backup basically his whole career except

1054
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 1: the last six seven games of his senior season, right,

1055
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: So that's the difference.

1056
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: And like I said, tom Brady turned out to be

1057
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: what tom Brady turned out to be.

1058
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: I had a very similar story to your door because

1059
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: people like, well if he was that good, why didn't

1060
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: he go to a D one school?

1061
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: Well, with my grades, I couldn't. I couldn't.

1062
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't have got into Juco only place how you

1063
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: get into because there was no there was no you know,

1064
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: you didn't have to have the same standardized testing grade

1065
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: to get into a Division two school as you did

1066
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: a Division one because my year old Joe nineteen eighty six,

1067
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: it would have it.

1068
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: That was the first year prop forty eight, So you

1069
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: had to make seven hundred.

1070
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: Remember I told you my credits called by folk yeah,

1071
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: that was also about sat score folk. Now they give

1072
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: you a hundred to put your name on the thank

1073
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. I might have got that roll, Joe.

1074
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: I might have left y'all. I might have left y'all

1075
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: for my own name.

1076
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

1077
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 5: I'm not going Joe, Hey, don't hold it to that, now,

1078
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 5: don't hold me. I'm laughing with you because I was

1079
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 5: a PROBA when I went to college too. I didn't

1080
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 5: have my acord, and uh, you know it was challenging, bro.

1081
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 7: You know, I we dont we ain't take the SA team.

1082
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: We took the A C.

1083
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: And you know back then on Joe, you know, I

1084
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: played the game that I played the game that Friday night,

1085
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: and then I my sister, my sister, Yeah, my sister

1086
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: drive me to Georgia Southern to take that test, the test,

1087
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at all these students they right, I'm

1088
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: just sitting there like I don't know nothing on here.

1089
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 7: Listen. You know it's like, listen, I ain't even I

1090
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 7: ain't even got no business laughing.

1091
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 6: I don't even have no business laughter, because you gotta understand,

1092
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 6: I had my I had my red flags and my

1093
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 6: character issues going to the League because of my reason

1094
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 6: for bouncing around from school to school. You gotta understand,

1095
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 6: I graduated from beach Eie hell. I didn't even graduated

1096
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 6: from goddamn high school.

1097
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: A time.

1098
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 7: Mcgrave was so bad. Listen, Joe, Joe, I swore for God. Listen.

1099
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: We family were.

1100
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: Family.

1101
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 7: My dream, my dream was I wanted to go to

1102
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 7: fam you. So I'm coming out of high school.

1103
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 6: I told my grandma and said, Mama, I want to

1104
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 6: go down to family, right down and tell lassy. My

1105
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 6: grandma said, listen, baby, it ain't looking good for you.

1106
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 6: There's nothing to go with you. I'm gonna give you

1107
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 6: officers on where you might be able to go, but

1108
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 6: it definitely able to be fam you.

1109
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 7: I ended up. I ended up at Langston University, NI

1110
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 7: a school. Obviously.

1111
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 6: I'm sure we have some people in the chat from

1112
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 6: from Oklahoma. Ended up at LANs University. Getting there the

1113
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 6: first semester, I get thrown out for fighting. I get

1114
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 6: thrown out for I get I get thrown up a fight. Man,

1115
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 6: I'll never forget. Rest is soul. Doctor Ernest Holloway, Rest

1116
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 6: in Peace shipped me back to Miami. I come to

1117
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 6: my grandma. I told my Grandma, what happened? Look, you

1118
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 6: know my roommate. I think my roommate stole my parel

1119
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 6: grand money, my grandma. Say listen, baby, I've done all

1120
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 6: I can with you. I wash my hands, I gotta

1121
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 6: sing you. I gotta sing you to you by my

1122
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 6: da inn La.

1123
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 7: Let me see what she could do with you. That's

1124
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 7: how I ended up.

1125
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 6: That's how I ended up at Sala Monica College nineteen

1126
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 6: ninety seven with Steve Smith Boom.

1127
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 7: That's two years down. So I played with Sea that

1128
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 7: first year.

1129
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: Long.

1130
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 6: Behold, here I go again, not going to class. I'm thinking,

1131
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 6: you know, I'm a skill set. It's gonna get me

1132
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 6: through the door man.

1133
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 7: And people don't play that. They don't play that. Damn

1134
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 7: Santa Monica.

1135
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 6: Oh no, hey, Joe, I'm I'm ineligible the third year,

1136
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 6: so I got to sit out the third year.

1137
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 7: So that's three years down. I'm at Southwest doing classes.

1138
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 6: I'm at West l A doing classes, and I'm doing

1139
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 6: classes as Santa Monica just to get my grades together

1140
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 6: so I could play in nineteen ninety nine. That's four years.

1141
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 6: I go out there, I get my stuff together. I

1142
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 6: have one for one scholarship. I had two schools off

1143
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 6: me a full ride, one for one San Diego State

1144
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 6: Aztecs and coach Dennis Erickson.

1145
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 7: He was at Oregon State.

1146
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: Man.

1147
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 7: I hey, Joe, I squeezed to the crack I got.

1148
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 7: I got to Oregon State.

1149
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 6: Man all I needed, Joe, I just needed to be

1150
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 6: on the big stage, just to show them folks I

1151
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 6: could play.

1152
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: That's it.

1153
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: Well.

1154
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 6: Once I got to Oregon State, man I play. I

1155
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 6: was there four months. I ain't gole the man class.

1156
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 6: I ain't going to new classes. Yeah, this is my

1157
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 6: last shot. My singular focus were straight football. Hey, Joe,

1158
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 6: I showed out at Organ State that little what that

1159
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 6: little four months I had?

1160
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 7: Man, I got drafted in the second round.

1161
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 6: Despite all my issues, with all my troubles, all my

1162
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 6: off the field stuff, I ain't look bad.

1163
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: They say, well, uh uh uh uh uh Shannanda your

1164
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: grades where the rest of them? I say, these aren't

1165
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: looking too good. And the ones that's coming to min

1166
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: ain't gonna look much better. So I don't know, Joe,

1167
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, y'all. Hop that's all I got for it. Hey,

1168
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: this is my friend. Hey, look by Pristvie. Year in college? Oh, Joe,

1169
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: ug got problem for they, so I couldn't play the

1170
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: first semester. Yeah, it's a freshman.

1171
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: I can go to the games.

1172
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 5: I gotta sit in the stands. I gotta watch the dude,

1173
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 5: I gotta watch my homies.

1174
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: Grind out there. You know what I mean.

1175
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 5: I can't compete, I'm like, so it built up of

1176
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 5: firing me. So when I did get eligible, I just

1177
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 5: took it out on everybody in the SEC, Bro, you

1178
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So, yeah, you know, sometimes sometimes

1179
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 5: when things get delayed a little bit, you know, you

1180
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 5: can you can must up some fire to continue.

1181
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: You can must up some fireer when you get out there,

1182
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: you can let him know what's up, you know what

1183
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean? And yes, for sure, that's why when it

1184
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: goes back to shador Man, uh, you know, wherever he goes, Bro,

1185
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll be happy and hopefully with that chip Man,

1186
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: let him know what's up, you know, pus, get back

1187
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: in the get back in the lab.

1188
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: You're absolutely.

1189
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 6: And the funny thing about it too, wherever Shadur come,

1190
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 6: wherever he goes.

1191
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 7: I love the saying it's not where you get drafted,

1192
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 7: it's what you do once you do there.

1193
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 6: Absolutely, and understand the competitor. I understand the competitor that

1194
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 6: he is and where he goes whoever and wherever he goes.

1195
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 6: If it's if it's a team that doesn't have one

1196
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 6: of the elite superstar quarterbacks, his competitive nature is gonna

1197
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 6: kick in and there's a chance that he can beat

1198
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 6: those quarterbacks out despite whatever odds or collusion they have

1199
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 6: against Dad. When he gets a chance, he gonna show him.

1200
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 6: I know that, just the competitor in him. He's not

1201
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 6: gonna he's not gonna. I'm not gonna hold his head.

1202
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 6: He's not gonna let it down. He just wants that opportunity.

1203
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 6: And once they open that door, and he closed it

1204
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 6: behind him, after playing after after they playing the game,

1205
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 6: they played.

1206
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 7: These plays two days, man child please man.

1207
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah from like I said, ont you, I went through

1208
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: something very similar. And I just remember having a conversation

1209
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: with my brother who came in there that night when

1210
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: I didn't go in the first three rounds, and I

1211
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: say bad. I went to the East West Shrine game.

1212
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: I went to the Blue Gray, I went to the

1213
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: I went to the Combine. I said, Man, them guys

1214
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: that they drafted ain't better than me. I said, they're

1215
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: not better than me. Spank, I said, I saw up,

1216
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: I see all of them.

1217
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: I said.

1218
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: I went to the East West Shrine game, and I

1219
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: was the best receiver there, I said, I said, I said.

1220
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 2: All I want is an opportunity.

1221
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: Give me a give me a helmet and some shoulder

1222
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: pass and hey, whoever comes, Hey, I'm gonna throw all

1223
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: y'all ass in the water. Whoever swell back to shore,

1224
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: that's who get it. Yeah, I like that, that's it, Like,

1225
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: hold on and what about the reports? What about the reports?

1226
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 6: Now this is happened. Multiple players have done this. He

1227
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 6: didn't throw at the combine.

1228
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he but he threw. But he threw at

1229
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: his pro date. Yeah.

1230
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: There have been a lot of guys that don't throw.

1231
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: Because I want to throw. I want to throw the

1232
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: guys that's familiar with me. I'm familiar with them because

1233
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: if a guy, you're not gonna bring a guy in

1234
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: on a Sunday. And he hadn't thrown to those guys.

1235
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: So I wanted, you know, hey, I want to see

1236
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: how I know how my guy run routes. They know

1237
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: how I throw the ball.

1238
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: Boom. It's a perfect marriage.

1239
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: Because I want everybody to look good and possibly, oh Joe,

1240
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: there might be some guys if I don't throw with

1241
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: my pro day. If I don't throw, guess what this

1242
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: s guy's not gonna come to see them because everybody's

1243
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: not gonna be a first join second round pick. Might

1244
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: be some guys getting picked up as a free agent,

1245
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: so I want to cast shot, cast them any good light. Yeah,

1246
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: I just look, it's tough and nothing when you're going

1247
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: through something. Yeah, people that you're gonna be already a

1248
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: at this point, at that point in time, Ojoe, you

1249
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: ain't really trying to hear that because you can't see.

1250
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: All I can see was what's in front of me.

1251
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: Because it takes a special type of a person to

1252
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: see beyond their circumstances.

1253
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: All I can see is right here. No, not where

1254
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: I wish to be, not where I'm going to be.

1255
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: Because that's why a lot of people make decisions based

1256
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: on where they are currently, not where they wish to be.

1257
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough.

1258
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: Uh. And I heard what you said, and you know,

1259
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: and like I said, I heard people say, well, I

1260
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: mean he really extremely confidence, but his game doesn't match

1261
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: the confidence coach prime. Wait, look, and I don't know

1262
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: if anybody that's selected now was even in the NFL

1263
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: or selected or in a position uh when Prime was there.

1264
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: So I don't know how I wouldn't You know, guys

1265
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: say I don't. I don't want to make this team's

1266
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: gonna Oh yo, you and I played this game, when

1267
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: we've covered this game, and we've been around this game

1268
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: along time. These teams gonna do it the hell they

1269
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: want to do now they don't y'all, y'all, they gonna

1270
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: make them have have this guy quarterback on how this

1271
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: guy is a coach.

1272
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: We gonna do what the health we want to do.

1273
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna select who they want to select who they

1274
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: and they believe the Hey, we believe the guy, and

1275
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: they'll tell you, we believe dealing Rooks is better than

1276
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: you do it. We believe Jackson Dark, we believe Shook,

1277
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: we believe mill Rope, we believe their upside is better

1278
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: than your doer. How do how do we prove that

1279
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: that's not? I mean, y Dylan Gabriel did throw for

1280
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: had like one hundred and fifty. I mean, he got

1281
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: what sixteen seventeen thousand yards? He got one hundred and

1282
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: thirty hundred and forty plus tendown. I don't know, but

1283
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's.

1284
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: I just I don't know what chat.

1285
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm at a lost I normally would it be able

1286
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: to have give you a good give you a good

1287
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: excuse or good reason. I don't like to use the

1288
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: word excuse. I would like to give you a reason

1289
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: why I think a person or a player slid. I

1290
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: have some intel red flags, even though I wouldn't tell

1291
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: you exactly, but I would, you know, hint around and

1292
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: then I'll let you deduce it for yourself.

1293
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: Oh, y'all, don't got nothing. I don't got nothing that.

1294
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: It's not about grades.

1295
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a pre existing condition, he doesn't have

1296
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: oh the character issue that he has.

1297
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 2: He's extremely confident.

1298
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: He believes in himself, which is I think that one

1299
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Speaker 1: of the most important things you can have as an

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Speaker 1: athlete is confidence of believe in you, because if you

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Speaker 1: don't believe in you, who the hell else will?

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Speaker 2: Joe Nobody? Yeah, you always got to believe in yourself. Man,

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Speaker 2: the uthermodes.

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Speaker 1: All those all those days when I was training alone,

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Speaker 1: wasn't nobody there, No coaches saw it, no other players.

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Speaker 2: I did this, I believe.

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Speaker 1: To me, I believe that I was preparing for something

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Speaker 1: greater even though the circumstances that I was in currently. Look,

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Speaker 1: and I mean it should tell you something. Yes, his

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Speaker 1: dad gave him great opportunity, great coaches. He you know,

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Speaker 1: he was with Braid and he had a throwing coaching,

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Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. And that what they're supposed

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Speaker 1: to do put the kids in the best situation so

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Speaker 1: they can succeed. So why would I if I had

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to put my kids in a situation that

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Speaker 1: I think will enhance them or help them succeed. Nah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I want you to get

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Speaker 1: it out of the mud like I did. What kind

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Speaker 1: of sense does that make?

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Speaker 7: M H None at all?

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Speaker 6: Man, So listen, listen you if you don't need twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty Vision and those in the chat, even if you

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Speaker 6: don't like shrdor those in the chat, even if you

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Speaker 6: don't like Prime, if you have common sense and you've

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Speaker 6: been watching and seeing what's going on, you know what

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Speaker 6: it is that at this point you know exactly what

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Speaker 6: it is. I mean, it doesn't need to be said.

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Speaker 6: Even if you feel the players that have gotten drafted before.

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Speaker 6: If you feel the players that have gotten drafted before,

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Speaker 6: sha door that at the quarterback position, even if you

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Speaker 6: feel they're better.

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Speaker 7: Even if you do, you still know what it is.

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Speaker 6: And if you don't, you just being purposely you purposely

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Speaker 6: being naive based on a personal vendetta that you might

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Speaker 6: have against you know, the sayings family, this is never ever, ever,

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Speaker 6: ever ever been done, and people saying and people saying

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Speaker 6: he's not good and he can play at the next level,

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Speaker 6: like stop, man, stop. You know, quarterback is one of

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Speaker 6: the hardest positions to find, which is why some teams

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Speaker 6: haven't had success in eons.

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Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, he come on now should

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Speaker 1: he even got frank called by someone pretending to be

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Speaker 1: from an NFL team and said, have to wait a

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Speaker 1: little longer.

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Speaker 2: Man, whoever did this? Man?

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Speaker 1: Y'all, y'all, y'all have some clowns. Bro, Man, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know why, y'all. I don't even know why you

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Speaker 1: would do that. I mean, at that moment, guy's on

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Speaker 1: edge and you're just hoping that you get a call.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, that's the call you're really

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Speaker 1: hoping that you get. Obviously you want to get it

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Speaker 1: as early as you possibly can. But just and then

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Speaker 1: somebody playing on the phone. Really, guys, come on man.

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Speaker 1: Sean pay says, he's very surprised the doer hasn't been

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Speaker 1: drafted yet. There'll be this chip on the shoulder. There'll

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Speaker 1: be this chip on the shoulder. And beware, because this

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Speaker 1: guy is gonna play in this league. Shoulders in good

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Speaker 1: spirits after not get it drafted in day two. God

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Speaker 1: don't make mistakes. I got faith in God no matter what. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: check this out. Scholarship was justin Herbert's backup. He's eight

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Speaker 1: days older than Trevor. Lawrence was a freshman at Oregon

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Speaker 1: with Bo Bow. He turns twenty six when the season starts,

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Speaker 1: and he's had three seasons that ended an injury. So

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Speaker 1: now you're talking about Ojoe. Remember I said, does he

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Speaker 1: have an injury history?

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Speaker 2: Does he have red flags that we don't know about?

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Speaker 1: Right, here's a guy that's about to be twenty six,

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Speaker 1: had seasons in three different occasions with an injury.

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Speaker 2: That all I'm saying, y'all chat, take and do with

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Speaker 2: that whatever you like. I think it's right. I think

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Speaker 2: we have to. Oh, Jo and I when we talk

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Speaker 2: sports and we talk. We have to give you context.

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Speaker 1: He says, Okay, this guy went here because I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to explain, well, Shanon, maybe he has a preconditioned, pre

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Speaker 1: existing condition. Maybe he's there's a character issue off the field,

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Speaker 1: maybe have some kind of a problem. We don't know,

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Speaker 1: but we know one guy is about to be twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, O chobn.

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Speaker 9: When I got drafted, I was twenty two, Tue, I

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Speaker 9: don't even know I was twenty two. I turned as

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Speaker 9: a matter of fact, I got drafted in April. I

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Speaker 9: was twenty one when I got drafted. I turned twenty

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Speaker 9: two in June. This guy's about to turn twenty six.

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Speaker 9: It's there's nothing, there's nothing we can do. We can

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Speaker 9: just talk about it and then hoak s your door.

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Speaker 9: Makes the best of it.

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Speaker 1: Joe, let me ask you this, what do you think

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Speaker 1: what's the equivalent of something like this happened in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Do you know a player that was rated extremely high

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Speaker 1: and not only did he fall out of supposed to

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Speaker 1: be a lottery pick, maybe a top five lottery pick,

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Speaker 1: slid all the way out of the first round, slid

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Speaker 1: all the way out of the second round because they

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Speaker 1: only have two routes in the NBA and ended up

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Speaker 1: having to become an NBA free agent.

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Speaker 5: The one person I can really remember is uh probably

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Speaker 5: Rashard Lewis him sitting in the green room because you

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Speaker 5: know that to the draft, and I think he was

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Speaker 5: probably the last one in the green room and I

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Speaker 5: think he thought he was going lottery and I think

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Speaker 5: he ended up going in the second round. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's that's tough, bro. Like I couldn't imagine that. Like

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Speaker 5: it's already anxiety, you know, from being in there. They

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Speaker 5: told me I was gonna be a top ten pick

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Speaker 5: off the old Joe. So I was invited. I was

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Speaker 5: invited to the green room. I'm sitting in there. Look

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Speaker 5: even though you know people people don't made promises and

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Speaker 5: all that, and I'm like, man, you never know, bro,

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Speaker 5: you never right, you know what I mean. So uh,

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Speaker 5: but it was definitely a surreal feeling, you know, getting drafted,

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Speaker 5: getting getting a chance to shake David Stearns's hand.

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Speaker 2: Uh, just a memorable moment for me. And I remember

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Speaker 2: it like it was yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, outside of Rashad, I don't really know, Uh,

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Speaker 5: nobody who's kind of got left back there like that.

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Speaker 2: But it's gotta be a tough feeling, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 5: Hey, look, yeah, Rashad had a great career from that bro.

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Speaker 5: He probably still wearing a chip on his shoulders to

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Speaker 5: this day.

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Speaker 1: You're probably you're probably right, yeah, when you look at

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Speaker 1: I mean Thurman Thomas. Thurman Thomas ended up falling asleep.

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Speaker 1: He thought he was gonna be a first round pick.

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Speaker 1: He goes in the second round. Thurmas in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. He wonted he run the m V p

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Speaker 1: uh and I think ninety one, so uh yeah, but

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Speaker 1: a precipitous fall like this, I can't recall it, never

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Speaker 1: ever