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Speaker 1: he's here, the most feared man at Radio Row year

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco. He's doctor David Show, long time team

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Speaker 1: physician for the San Diego Chargers. Now, were they in

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Speaker 1: LA by the time you are or were just never

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Speaker 3: Let me spell it for the fifty seventh time. I

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Speaker 1: I covered it.

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Speaker 3: I talked about Oh, Philip Rivers has come out and

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Speaker 3: said I've injected him dozens of times for rib block successfully.

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Speaker 1: Which is interesting?

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Speaker 4: Is that really boring the career of Justin Herbert who

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Speaker 3: From mind blown dry needling. Look got shipped. It's one

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Speaker 4: So would they have had to do it with like

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Speaker 3: I don't even imagine the scenario where it can happen done.

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Speaker 2: All right, so doctor David long term consequences and had

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Speaker 2: Ryan Leaf took it any further than what he tried to. Verbally,

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Speaker 2: Him, it was I mean, I've I've trained, so I

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Speaker 3: But actually I was talking to you guys as I

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Speaker 2: You did not answer the question, Doc, And I'm telling you,

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Speaker 6: Look, I'm a lover, not a fight defense you know.

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Speaker 3: twenty five years. What has since I did? For people

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Speaker 3: What was First of all, I'm not trying to propel

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Speaker 6: Back of the day, even right now, it's very important.

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Speaker 3: So it's been twenty five years since the so he's

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Speaker 3: Who was my best man. It's been over dozens years

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 3: It started with this is the guy who started me

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Speaker 3: It's like, look, I'm doing me like, I haven't talked

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Speaker 6: He performed It was my best dad.

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Speaker 1: He brought Saow up too.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's blaming me for his daft Jase And

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Speaker 3: that's really personal to me. Sure he married my wife

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Speaker 3: After sayow Like, I like, it's been over a dozen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm upset about the friend part and whatever.

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Speaker 3: I can handle myself, but it just doesn't make sense

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Speaker 4: I was just so you know, he's clearly battling a

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Speaker 3: I wish him well. It's fact pattern is it's been

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Speaker 6: It was in the first conversation.

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Speaker 3: The first conversation was the swear words, uh two days

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Speaker 5: Do you know what, you guys look a lot better

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Speaker 5: this time than you did last year?

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Speaker 1: This you know that is that's called a poor hotel

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you go out the front door you got

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Speaker 1: Then they lock one of them. One of them locks

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Speaker 2: See you.

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Speaker 6: Want to be I don't. I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 6: No man, by the way, I'm just think they should

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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean here's the thing. I actually really like

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Speaker 4: think it's it's it's fine, But the logistics of where

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Speaker 6: It's it's too spread out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah for one and I mean it is exactly like

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Speaker 1: Look, I get a vacation with the wife out of it.

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Speaker 6: You get to get a vacation. They got to get

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Speaker 1: But not in San Francisco. That's at that point, right, So,

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Speaker 1: It's weird, man like, like you can't sit down and

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Speaker 6: You know, like what is sandwich? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You got to throw this and that on there, just

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Speaker 5: On your sandwich that have set yourself a weird aoli

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Speaker 6: I'm not a big avocado on a sandwich. Guy. Just

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Speaker 1: We had a nice Italian meal.

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Speaker 4: Now, Jonas pointed out that maybe LeVar the chef was

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Speaker 1: Chef was Mexican. Is it okay?

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Speaker 5: I was asking the question, is my grandmother just spun

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That not a pison? Is it okay?

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Speaker 5: Sure you know what you go learned how to do it,

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Speaker 6: What do you have?

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Speaker 1: What kind of Italian chicken farm?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 4: Of course he does. We did put the vodka sauce on.

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Speaker 4: Sauce is good on the chicken. See have you ever

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Speaker 4: been there the spot I told you about always? Did

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Speaker 1: That'd be for the price.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is the Tom Brady not having adult in the fight conversation?

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Speaker 1: Is it legit? Should people leave it alone?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: How how what's your take on it? Over blown? Overblown? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean I really believe that I just think that

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Speaker 5: No, I look, there's a bunch of old players coming

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Speaker 1: I mean, how dare he?

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Speaker 6: How dare he?

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Speaker 1: How dare he? I mean the guy won those guys

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Speaker 1: super Bowls. Let's not forget that.

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Speaker 5: They want him to do they want him to But

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Speaker 5: here's what I here's what I said to Brady. I said,

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Speaker 5: let's not forget that he's who he's hiring to be

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Speaker 5: his head coach. To who he He's got a dog

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Speaker 5: in the fight, right, He's got klink Kubiak is going

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Speaker 10: So yeah, Jonas, So look, I don't what do I care?

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Speaker 10: I don't I think cares. It's I think you said

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Speaker 10: it the other day or today or whatever. But there's

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Speaker 10: no sizzle. So people are looking for sizzle for this game.

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Speaker 10: This is a blog game?

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Speaker 1: Is it a blog game?

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Speaker 2: I think it's like it's going to come and go,

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Speaker 2: Seattle is going to win, and it's just this is

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Speaker 4: But that's also because Pete's predictions were so far off

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Speaker 1: He had terrible year picking games.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, really year picking games I had a

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Speaker 1: No, you lost like Drake May. Yeah, you can't beat

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Speaker 1: you can't beat whoever you do picks with.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I did you know?

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Speaker 5: Yeah I did break you never beat me, never in

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Speaker 5: the history revision history.

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Speaker 4: No, we go back to our producer every time he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he lost lost, he does that just a tweak making.

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Speaker 1: No, because it's true. We have a document on a spreadsheet.

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Speaker 5: But but I did have a good season picking games,

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Speaker 5: and I went oh to nine in the playoffs to start.

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Speaker 1: Why are pointing out me? You were two and I

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Speaker 1: went that's the difference.

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Speaker 5: I went three and oh in last week though, and

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Speaker 5: we had a special best bet so and I got

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Speaker 2: If I win my picks, I care, But if I

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Speaker 5: But so, why do I think this is a bad

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Speaker 6: I just don't think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think New England's that good. I'll be honest

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Speaker 5: with you, really, I don't. I think when you analyze

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Speaker 5: the roster, and which I did, I do one through

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Speaker 5: forty four and you look at the starters, their team

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Speaker 5: is not that good.

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Speaker 1: Dang, how let me they're not that good or not

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Speaker 1: that talented.

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Speaker 6: They're not that talented.

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Speaker 1: They're a good team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great How many How many teams have

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Speaker 2: made it to the Super Bowl that aren't good team?

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Speaker 5: Well, okay, there aren't many. There are the Eagles. The

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Speaker 5: Eagles with Nick Foles. That was an accident. That's the

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Speaker 5: greatest accident in the history of the National football.

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Speaker 1: And they just accidentally won.

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Speaker 5: But you know, if you go back and look at

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Speaker 5: the roster of that team, the talented roster.

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Speaker 6: Okay, let's go back, like even the Chiefs last year.

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Speaker 5: If you ranked like offensive linemen they had like Creed

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Speaker 5: The offensive lines in this game aren't great. They're average

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where would you if Seattle's played pretty well, they've

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Speaker 4: played better if you if you stacked these two teams

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Speaker 1: The past, you know, five six years, these have got

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Speaker 1: the Seattle team is pretty good, yeah, the worst.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this This is the offensive player of

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Speaker 1: Which Seattle beat Philly or Kansas City last year? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that defense is nasty. That defense.

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Speaker 5: Look, if you can rush for and get after the

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Speaker 6: I mean, it makes you so good on defense. You

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Speaker 5: And so yeah, you know, I remember about week six,

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Speaker 6: In the league but by the end of the year.

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Speaker 5: And I said what they said, Yeah, I said, you

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Speaker 5: it's played out there.

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Speaker 4: So what's your reservation then for the Seahawks, who are

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Speaker 1: What's your reservation where this goes wrong for them? Darnold? Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's yob? But you know what, though he's actually played well,

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Speaker 1: he's played great.

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Speaker 5: But I think Kuback's done a great job of making

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Speaker 6: Okay, he has he has made, he's made. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, what y'all?

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Speaker 5: But I know, but I know you, but I know

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Speaker 5: good situation.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you tell me it's the Jets a good situation.

445
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,120
Speaker 4: But hey, who are the Highers the defensive coordinator?

446
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 6: Yeah? But Brady, But Brady, let me ask you this.

447
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this one thing. If you're truly great,

448
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: that stuff doesn't matter.

449
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 6: So if you're if.

450
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,160
Speaker 1: You're true, it all matters. If you're an Okay, let's

451
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,360
Speaker 1: say Swiss to play when Brady would cour.

452
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 4: No, no, no, this is one that's near and dear

453
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Speaker 4: to your heart. And this is where you always have

454
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 4: a hard time making it argument. You're gonna try to

455
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 4: pivot and.

456
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 1: Wiggle your way. I'm not wiggling to hear anythink.

457
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Speaker 4: Is Aaron Rodgers not one of those talented quarterbacks in

458
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 4: the NFL? Histor yes, next to day Marino?

459
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 1: Probably right? Yeah?

460
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 4: Is that fair to say, well, there's others, but yeah,

461
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 4: he said, Okay, Mahomes whoever else?

462
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 1: Talent wise? Okay, he has won super Bowl?

463
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, so what you just said, if he's that great,

464
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 4: he should be.

465
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 5: Able to win multiply. He should be there the whole time.

466
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 5: There you go, they were there, there, You're sustainable. Success

467
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 5: comes with the great quarterback play. Sure, but we're talking

468
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Speaker 5: about winning a super Bowl. There's there's two different conversations.

469
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: Variables to win a super Bowl.

470
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Speaker 5: That's why when people say, oh, look at the quarterback,

471
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 5: you didn't win, Like Dan Marino never won a super Bowl,

472
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 5: that's because on understood.

473
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Speaker 4: But for Sam Donald right, when you look at what

474
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 4: he was drafted into, there's no chance he's gonna be

475
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 4: able to win. With the Jets, he was great.

476
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Speaker 6: It would be a chance. Rogers was just.

477
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: There and that didn't work out as a complete disaster.

478
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Speaker 6: Rogers was one hundred and twenty two years old. But

479
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 6: he says, instead, Pete haven't went back.

480
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 1: If they mark Sanchez, Dan Marino never won one.

481
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Speaker 5: If what are we talking about When Josh Allen went

482
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Speaker 5: to the Bulls, when Josh Allen went to the b

483
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Speaker 5: When Josh Allen went to the Bill they didn't when

484
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Speaker 5: they went Super.

485
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: Bowl, they didn't want a super But Josh Allen went

486
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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl.

487
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Speaker 5: When Josh Allen went to Buffalo with any good, they

488
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 5: were terrible.

489
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: He's made weren't good. But like He's made them what

490
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Speaker 1: they are because they're not better than what they have been. Yeah,

491
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: like we who had what the third highest winning percentage

492
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Speaker 1: of any coach in the NFL.

493
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Speaker 5: I know what I'm saying is you always talk about

494
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Speaker 5: the quarterback going to the situation.

495
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Speaker 4: Situation of circumstances. By the way, for any player, not

496
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Speaker 4: just amount, but if you're you're right in a lot

497
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 4: of ways you're right. But if you're truly one of

498
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 4: the greats, you overcome that no matter what. So God

499
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 4: to overcome what though the situation, you make it great

500
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Speaker 4: because you're great.

501
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Speaker 5: No, because you're looking at a team. Is the Buffalo

502
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 5: situation great right now? It's not awful, It's gonna be.

503
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 5: They just elevated. They're also the coordinator and they couldn't

504
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 5: find another kid to come in. Let me ask you this,

505
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 5: if you had to pick right now, Buffalo or New England,

506
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 5: who would you pick?

507
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 6: Next year?

508
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: Probably New England?

509
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, here's my But here's always bamboozle too though

510
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: you know he didn't like them this year.

511
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Speaker 1: Anyway, Bamboozle.

512
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Speaker 4: Here's I say to you is I have less questions

513
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 4: about what New England's going to be than I do Buffalo,

514
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 4: who is there? They just high their defense pint of

515
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 4: Jim munder right, how's that going to work? As he

516
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 4: called plays in the NFL? Can they get more talented

517
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 4: on the outside of wide receiver? It seems to me

518
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 4: that's been missing. Peace teams have a lot of questions.

519
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 6: But they have Josh Allen.

520
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Speaker 4: That's great then, and they have Drake May, who I'm

521
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Speaker 4: a believer and I think what he's going to be

522
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Speaker 4: a camp.

523
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Speaker 1: The last three games, Drake May hasn't looked like he's

524
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Speaker 1: playing in some tough.

525
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: Defenses playing in Huh, what game is Drake May playing?

526
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 2: What do you mean is he playing? Is he playing Sunday?

527
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: Yeah?

528
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: Oh, because I haven't seen Josh Allen play on this

529
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: Sunday that Drake May.

530
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Speaker 5: That passes and it was thirteen seconds, otherwise he would

531
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Speaker 5: be playing in the game he had playing again, And

532
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 5: who you are?

533
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Speaker 6: You are? Who you are? Are you hidding me?

534
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: When when you see it that way?

535
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 5: I'm just some I'm I'm a big believer in getting

536
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 5: to a super Bowl is not just on the quarter Okay,

537
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, what about He's been to a super Bowl?

538
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 6: Right?

539
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: If things don't go on next year in Cincinnati. Didn't

540
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Speaker 1: stay there. Well, that's a whole other issue.

541
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Speaker 6: No, it's not.

542
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 4: It's exactly what you're saying. Cincinnati is a cheap organization.

543
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 4: You don't want to say it because they're nice to

544
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 4: you all say it. And if things don't work out,

545
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 4: they end up moving on from Zach tayl and all that.

546
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 4: He might try to go somewhere else, of course, of course,

547
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 4: And why would he want to go somewhere else, because

548
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 4: the situation.

549
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 5: Circumstance doesn't want to throw to Chase Higgins anymore like

550
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: an idiot, which is crazy, because he wants to go

551
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 5: to a better situation circumstance.

552
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: This funk swallows them all up. This funk.

553
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: You can outperform dysfunction, and that is what dysfunction.

554
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: But a great quarterback would walk in and cure dysfunction.

555
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: Now burw is a great man.

556
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 4: So was it.

557
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 6: When he went to the Super Bowl?

558
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: That's it.

559
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 6: That's not a win.

560
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: But he went, Okay, that was the greatest quarter He

561
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Speaker 1: hasn't been there yet.

562
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Speaker 6: He looked dyfunctional that year when they went to the

563
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 6: Super Bowl. Should have won.

564
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: It costed them in the biggest game of the year.

565
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: What dysfunction cost to the Bengals. Hell, they lost, But

566
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: how did dysfunction costly? Well, had enough pieces around it

567
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: and the black Aaron Donald last player. Otherwise I have

568
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Speaker 2: a touchdown on the right sideline. I mean that that

569
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: cost him the game. It wasn't dysfunction. They didn't spend

570
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: enough money, said they say the sun shines on the dogs.

571
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: You know, blind dog's ass at least one time we

572
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Speaker 2: put its.

573
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Speaker 5: Like we put too much on a quarterback when it

574
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 5: comes to the Super Bowl wins.

575
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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

576
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Speaker 4: I think you're putting too much on the quarterback in general,

577
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 4: because they're not going to overcome dysfunction or a bad.

578
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: Situation of circumstances.

579
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 5: So if Sam Darnold walked into the jet situation as

580
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 5: he is right now, the player.

581
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: Is does not make them better. He doesn't make them better.

582
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: He can make them, yes he can, he can make

583
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 2: them better, but the better of being better enough no.

584
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: Better enough.

585
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 5: So basically, there are only four win because of quarterbacks

586
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 5: in the NFL, and the rest of them all win

587
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 5: with You win because of Lamar Jackson, You win because

588
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 5: of Joe Burrow, You win because of Josh Allen.

589
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: You win because of Patrick Mahomes.

590
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 5: The rest of them are all lumped together as circumstances.

591
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Speaker 1: There's a few. Here's how I describe it.

592
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Speaker 4: There's there's certain players for at every position that are extraordinary,

593
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 4: extraordinary talented. Where you're right, they are a high side

594
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 4: that raises the level of boats around them. However, in

595
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 4: order to win a super Bowl, you need to be

596
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 4: in a situation circumstance that actually allows you to excel,

597
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 4: allows you to be the player you could be. That's

598
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: that's why sam Donold is here. That's why it's working now.

599
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: As opposed to the Jets, as opposed to God bless me,

600
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: even Carolina that which they're they feel like they're moving

601
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 4: in a better, you know direction this year, but they're

602
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: still not that close, right, But I mean, did.

603
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 5: He get better? That's the thing too. There's also that

604
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 5: possibility part of player.

605
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: You learn, you learn.

606
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: That you're wiser. But I mean, if that's the case,

607
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: if it's just purely the quarterback, then why aren't all

608
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: of the quarterbacks that are that are that exceptional and

609
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: are are you know, the what is it once in

610
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: a generation talent? Why aren't they winning winning national titles

611
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: in college, If by if by theory, if by definition

612
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: of what you're saying, those same guys should overcome it

613
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: in college. It should have been easier to win a

614
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: national title than to win a Super Bowl.

615
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: Who is the best quarterback in college football this year? Mendoza?

616
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: They won a national title?

617
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, But Caleb Williams didn't win a national time,

618
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: didn't win his conference.

619
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: And Patrick.

620
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 4: P Patrick, I almost call him Daniels by the way,

621
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, Josh.

622
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: All played away.

623
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 6: I mean, he's going to bouncers and Bard.

624
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: He's a generational talent, Pete, but he should be able

625
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: to have done it out of lesser Now you're now,

626
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: you're now you're taking it to the extreet?

627
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: Was that Oregon?

628
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 6: Right?

629
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: Okay?

630
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 5: Michael Pennock to Washington. Didn't win it there, didn't win

631
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 5: it was bow Nick's a generational quarterback. No, he's off

632
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 5: the top first front, Nicky. But is he a generational

633
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: court He's played really well so far.

634
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: I think you're underrating him a lot right now. No,

635
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: he's played well. I give him. Pete Prisco with us here,

636
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: uh uh, you got before we let you go, you

637
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: got to pick up the game, Seattle.

638
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 6: I'm going to beat the daily.

639
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: What if New England wins, what's the storyline? I mean,

640
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: I get, by the way, what is the storyline if

641
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: if he wins? If New England wins, what's the storyline?

642
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: Because it's a shocker.

643
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 5: Right, I don't think everybody shot because they're on a

644
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 5: four and a half point on. I was gonna ask

645
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 5: you are you are you taking the spread? Who's your

646
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 5: pick on the spread? Seattle, Seattle? And I think I think,

647
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 5: I think that defense is nasty. I don't like the

648
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 5: offensive line of the of the Patriots at all. I think,

649
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: by the way, Will Campbell's gonna have to move the guard.

650
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 5: In my opinion, I think he's gonna end up really

651
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: hard on and and I think that problem on the

652
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: left side is going to be an issue. Garrett Bradberry

653
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 5: is not very big. That could be an issue on

654
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 5: the inside. So I think they're gonna get dominated up

655
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 5: front and that's gonna be a problem for Drake May.

656
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 5: And one thing Brady Brady will love this one thing

657
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 5: about Drake May in the playoffs.

658
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 6: You know what happened.

659
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: Pressure it has he.

660
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: Doesn't know what he's saying out there, they're gonna run him,

661
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: and I think that's gonna.

662
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 5: That's gonna Know you're right, they're gonna But you know what,

663
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 5: they run that jumbo package a lot with the big

664
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 5: tackle for Patriots. But you know what, Seattle has been

665
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 5: really good to get stopping that jumbo package all year long.

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Speaker 1: live here from Radio Row at the super Bowl in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. It happened and unbelievable developing story is going

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Speaker 1: to get traded? Unmoldble Did he get traded? I don't know. No,

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Speaker 1: I thought you said it did.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, we were we were throwing out that

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Speaker 2: excited there. We said which one was more likely? Uh,

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Speaker 2: Johanna is getting traded? Or or ab making it in

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Speaker 2: to do this this spot this morning.

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Speaker 9: I made it in the naked you guys know, like

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Speaker 9: the like the outside of the perimeter of the media center.

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Speaker 9: It keeps growing during the week, right like it's like

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Speaker 9: if you're on Monday, there's like really not a lot

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Speaker 9: and then it goes blocks out and blocks out, and

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Speaker 9: uh that created some issues this morning getting over here.

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Speaker 9: I gave myself a five minute cushion as far as

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Speaker 9: how far I was going to go, and I needed

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Speaker 9: that five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Do you run for Tom or do you run for Diste?

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Speaker 1: I mean this morning, this morning, I ran for Tom.

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Speaker 1: How badly do you have radio format X right, what

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Speaker 1: do you mean?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I was just because I wanted to ask him the

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Speaker 1: first question. If you guys didn't mind, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: introduce him. Albert Brian, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist

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Speaker 1: at the m m QB. Get him on ex at

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Speaker 1: Albert Breer Thursday tradition a tradition here at the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Can I shoe? The first question?

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Speaker 6: Just? You got it?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet paper?

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Speaker 1: That's freezing that. I'm gonna walk away from this weight.

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Speaker 2: There you go. I mean you could take a few, man,

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Speaker 2: you might need them impactly, but you made it.

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Speaker 1: You're here. Run great. Great.

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Speaker 9: I told Brady I was gonna run. And this is

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Speaker 9: philosophical for me. When I do things like this early,

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Speaker 9: I would rather the half hour of physical activity. It'll

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Speaker 9: make me feel better through the morning for sure than

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Speaker 9: a half hours sleep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my Thot's with you on that, not me.

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Speaker 1: Do you run for distance or time? Well this morning,

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Speaker 1: like I said the little var I ran for time

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Speaker 1: because I was late.

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Speaker 9: So I actually there are a couple of girls doing

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Speaker 9: live shot over there and they saw me jogging through

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Speaker 9: and ye got some weird looks.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, you delivered this Poltian.

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Speaker 2: They knew you were jogging to deliver the goods, they

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Speaker 2: would have been clapping for you. Actually, you know, I

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Speaker 2: just think it's all in context, right.

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Speaker 9: I actually also like I didn't I wouldn't have time

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Speaker 9: to do this after anyway, because I got to go

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Speaker 9: to like I think we're in Santa clair A at

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Speaker 9: like seven am or something.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So yeah, it's a hike travel.

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Speaker 6: It's far.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, like so uh the West Coast super Bowl is

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Speaker 9: complicated and they're like it's like almost all of them now,

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Speaker 9: you know, Like because we went Vegas, Phoenix, La here,

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Speaker 9: back to LA next year. It's I think it'll be

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Speaker 9: in Vegas in two years. Will be my guests. They

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Speaker 9: haven't awarded it yet. But Atlanta, No, why is there

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Speaker 9: some La LA because of the stadiums LA.

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Speaker 5: Hold on, but you've got Atlanta did a great job

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Speaker 5: with theirs.

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Speaker 1: Why can't they go back to Atlanta? They are going

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Okay, it's it's La Atlanta. Sorry, three years

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Speaker 1: would be yes, Yeah, And then what about Dallas? What

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Speaker 1: about Houston?

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Speaker 9: What about Like the weird thing about Dallallas was I

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Speaker 9: don't get like I've talked to the Joneses about this,

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure they want it, which is interesting because

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Speaker 9: like one thing I heard from somebody there was they

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Speaker 9: it's actually not that big a money maker for a

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Speaker 9: city Dallas. In Dallas, if you remember, it was a

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Speaker 9: disaster when it was there, right, and that wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Really their fault.

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Speaker 9: Part of it was their fault, but they I mean

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Speaker 9: the part of that was their fault was they were

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Speaker 9: trying to jam one hundred and ten thousand people in

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Speaker 9: the stadium and break there.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the only way Jerry gets a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl though. No to that point though, I think people

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Speaker 1: would find this interesting.

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Speaker 4: I someone had wrote a report about what basically the

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Speaker 4: city gives up and they give up everything, like there's

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Speaker 4: no taxes there, they give them the hotels.

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Speaker 1: They give it like literally everything.

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Speaker 4: I mean, So, so what is the advantage that just

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Speaker 4: economic stimulus that I mean, that's it.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean for some of these cities.

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Speaker 9: It's like showing I think that they're if you prove

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Speaker 9: that you can host one of these, it shows you

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Speaker 9: can host almost anything, you know. And so there's there's

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Speaker 9: some of it like where it's like all right, Like

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Speaker 9: like for Atlanta, for example, Atlanta is not an obvious

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Speaker 9: host city for X, Y and Z either way, Miami

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Speaker 9: or New Orleans or you know, LA would be. So

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Speaker 9: for Atlanta, it's like, if we show we're really good

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Speaker 9: at this, then other events will come here. Indianapolis like

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Speaker 9: that was great value for them because they knocked it.

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Speaker 9: If you guys remember that suit, it was knocked it

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Speaker 9: out of the start, really lucky with the like seventy

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Speaker 9: degrees there all week. But like outside of that, like

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Speaker 9: Indie showed we can manage this, and like I think

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Speaker 9: everybody who went to that Super Bowl had a great experience.

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Speaker 1: You could walk everywhere like it was easy.

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Speaker 4: By the way, like the Indy five hundred, it's a

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Speaker 4: huge right, right, And I would say, like they're obviously combine.

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Speaker 1: Every year it's the convention capital of the country. Ye,

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's that place is.

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Speaker 6: As easy as ever.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not advocating, I know it's in a

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Speaker 4: you know, en closed environment. But it's a cool weather place.

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Speaker 4: But there's other cities that you would think as.

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Speaker 5: Well, as especially as they build out these domes.

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Speaker 1: Though, if Cleveland does what they're gonna do, are they

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Speaker 1: get rewarded.

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Speaker 9: That I I don't think so, because the hotel room

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Speaker 9: situation might not be what you need to be.

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Speaker 1: You should see ours.

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Speaker 9: I think that Jacksonville, you guys, an interesting neighborhood, colorful neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the size of the room.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I have I have a couple, uh, I

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Speaker 9: have a couple radio friends who are in the tenderline.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 9: I saw a great T shirt yesterday just said that

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Speaker 9: Tenderland cross vendor awaits and that's very true.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Albert Brews with us year. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, the history of the organization, you know from

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Speaker 1: the area. What is it we were talking about this earlier.

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Speaker 1: What's with the they're lucky and this is a Seattle

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Speaker 1: super Bowl and they're fortunate just to be here. What

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Speaker 1: is that about?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think like if you look at Seattle, their

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Speaker 9: team is more built around high draft picks. You know,

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Speaker 9: guys who are becoming brand names. You know, we all

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Speaker 9: know Jackson Spit and Jigba and Kenneth Walker and Byron

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Speaker 9: Murphy was a high pick. Devin weather'spending the fifth fifth

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Speaker 9: pick in the draft, and so Leonard Williams was a

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Speaker 9: high pick and has been great for them. DeMarcus Lawrence

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Speaker 9: was a star in Dallas, and so there's just a

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Speaker 9: ton of recognizable names, and they were built in a

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Speaker 9: very conventional way, you know, the Russell Wilson trade turned

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Speaker 9: into a bounty of draft picks and they nailed a

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Speaker 9: lot of them.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 9: So I think if you look at Seattle, it's more

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Speaker 9: while this team is really good, they've got a chance

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Speaker 9: to get better over the next couple of years if

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Speaker 9: you really look at it, you know from the thirty

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Speaker 9: thousand foot view versus New England, where it kind of

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Speaker 9: feels like they microwave to contender, you know, like where

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Speaker 9: they were four and thirteen, four and thirteen, and there

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Speaker 9: are a ton of free agents that are playing prominent

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Speaker 9: roles and a lot of guys that people haven't heard

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Speaker 9: of but have connections to Rabel And you know, I

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Speaker 9: think that sort of become New England's chip on their shoulder,

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Speaker 9: which is like, we're no.

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Speaker 1: One Cinderella.

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Speaker 9: Stop telling us that we're a bunch of you're taking

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Speaker 9: the points of right. I actually I hadn't thought about

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Speaker 9: the spread, but I think I am. I for the site.

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Speaker 9: I think I picked it's a mic Verbel moment to

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Speaker 9: get Seahawks twenty three Patriots twenty which would be cover. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: at the end of the segment.

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Speaker 2: That's all right, it's not a spoiler, ler, But you

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Speaker 2: mentioned that this is the same type of storyline that

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Speaker 2: the Patriots went into for the first time they started there.

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Speaker 9: And here's the similarity. I think it's a bulevar if

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Speaker 9: you look back at that team we thought about it.

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Speaker 9: I remember, like you know, when I was in college

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Speaker 9: when that happened, and I remember thinking like this, yeah,

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Speaker 9: this is one of the that was one. So I

885
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 9: was my senior year in college O one, O two,

886
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 9: this fat school.

887
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: Year and uh that was my second year in the league.

888
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bet you guys house.

889
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 9: I remember a lot of things about that game and

890
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 9: then the very at the end of that night I

891
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 9: might not remember for I, uh, but yeah, like I

892
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 9: think that old one team if you look back at it, right,

893
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 9: Like I remember that.

894
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: The middle school, yeah, probably high school. Yeah yeah, sophomore.

895
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 9: Junior okay, so were you class about three yeah, okay,

896
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 9: and then that will be your junior year.

897
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: Great year, great year in the Quinn household.

898
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 9: Now, So, like, I think we looked at that one

899
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 9: team as like, this is a bunch of ragtag pre

900
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 9: aid whateverlah blah blah blah, free agent, all these guys that, like,

901
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 9: it doesn't even make sense that they won the whole thing. Well,

902
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 9: the sixth round quarterback was Tom Brady. They had Mike

903
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 9: Brabill and Teddy Willy, Willy McGinnis, Tyler Lawyer, Boy, Troy Ball.

904
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean that was Hall of Fame.

905
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 9: I mean, so you look at all of these names

906
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 9: and it's like Richard Seymour was a rookie on that team.

907
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 9: Matt Light was the rookie left tackle on that team,

908
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 9: So you were Brown David when he was the center. Like,

909
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 9: so you had all these guys that like we didn't

910
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 9: know yet but wound up being the core of a

911
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 9: team that would win two more super Bowls after that.

912
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 9: So I think if there is a similarity that might

913
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 9: wind up being it where it's like we look back

914
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 9: at this team in three or four years and maybe it's.

915
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: A little better than we thought. I want to go

916
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: more to the business of the NFL.

917
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 4: We saw some talk about the nfl PA being staunched,

918
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 4: and the players staunched it against an eighteenth game. We

919
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: know that's them just kind of you know, position themselves

920
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 4: for a negotiation because obviously the owner's one and if

921
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 4: the owners won, it's going to happen. How long until

922
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 4: we get to an eighteenth game? And then what do

923
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: you think the players can get back in return for that.

924
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 9: Eighteenth So I think what's interesting is two years from now,

925
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 9: I said, the Super BOWLS is in Atlanta, right, they

926
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 9: have not set a date for it yet, and.

927
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: Because they don't know when to set it, and that

928
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: i'd be a little later.

929
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 9: If you look at the if you look, you see

930
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 9: they have whatever next weekend next year. I think the

931
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 9: super Bowl is on Valentine's Day, which is the latest

932
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 9: ever been. It's actually going to be a guinea pig

933
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 9: for them, right for because that's the one year where

934
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 9: the second.

935
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: You don't want to piss off too horror, this hall

936
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: Mark's gonna be so bad at you.

937
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 9: Think about this though, like they get the guinea pig

938
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 9: next year, right, because February fourteenth is a second Sunday,

939
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 9: which is always a super Bowl in February, right, and

940
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 9: then President's Day is always the third Monday. So it

941
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 9: happens to be that next year is the one year

942
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 9: where it's naturally just going to fall on President's.

943
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: Day weekend, get the extra dayoff and.

944
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 9: So and then the year after there's no date set

945
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 9: for the Atlanta Super Bowl, and I can just you're

946
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 9: talking to the Atlanta people. It's frustrating the hell out

947
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 9: of them, right because they have to block off the

948
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 9: entire month because you have to set an extra week

949
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 9: for each date, right, So now they've got to block

950
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 9: off the entire month. Hotel space, convention space, all this

951
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 9: stuff has been put on hold in Atlanta. We're only

952
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 9: two years out now, where like it's it's an issue

953
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 9: for them, And most people I've talked to think that

954
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 9: was because they have that year ear mark is the

955
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 9: one that they would try to go to eighteen games.

956
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 9: Now they've The problem is the NFLPA doesn't have an

957
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 9: executive director now, so how do you negotiate that. The

958
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 9: David White who talked the other day as the acting

959
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 9: and executive director. Can you really negotiate that big a

960
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 9: thing without having an act I mean from.

961
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: The from the owner's standpoint, like it's a great time, right, yeah, right,

962
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 4: But I don't think players I would think the union.

963
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: I think I would think until the union actually put

964
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: someone in place, it'd be on hold.

965
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 9: Here's what I would ask for if I were the players,

966
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 9: and I don't know if they will because the older

967
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 9: players are usually in control of the union. But get

968
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 9: players a free agency after three years, because if we're

969
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 9: talking about eighteen games versus sixteen games, right, which is

970
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 9: what it was only five years ago, say that's eight

971
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 9: more games that you have to go through.

972
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: That's a half a season.

973
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 9: That's eight more games that you have to go to

974
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 9: sort of get the free agency before we're even talking

975
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 9: about playoffs. You've also got the extra playoff games, so

976
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 9: there are two more teams than there were back then

977
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 9: playing a playoff game. So, like you know, I think

978
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 9: you got to do some things to make it easier

979
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 9: for these guys to get to the money. And what

980
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 9: it winds up doing is if you're getting more guys

981
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 9: at a younger age too free agency, it's going to

982
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 9: push the market because you're gonna get everyone else. It

983
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 9: pushes everyone else up. And so maybe it includes some

984
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 9: sort of changes to the franchise tag. But like if

985
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 9: I were the players, I'd be like, okay, Like I'm

986
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 9: going to listen to this, but you got to do

987
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 9: those sorts of things. What they can't get caught up

988
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 9: in and where the players have always with the owners

989
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 9: have always taken advantage of them is oh, we'll give

990
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 9: you off season time. We'll help you out here, We'll

991
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 9: help you out there. You know what, you don't have

992
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 9: to come to OTAs. You don't have to do this,

993
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 9: you don't have to do that. Do you know what

994
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 9: the player? You know what the owners like deep down

995
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 9: think when the players ask for more time off. You

996
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 9: mean I get to shut the lights off for another.

997
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: Few weeks at expenses.

998
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, you mean you're gonna pay for your own training.

999
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 9: I mean I don't have to feed you. I mean

1000
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 9: I don't have to Like it's so like they I

1001
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 9: think that the the union has to.

1002
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: Make this hurt for the players a little bit, you

1003
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

1004
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 6: Or the Yeah.

1005
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 9: So I think it's like that part of it is

1006
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 9: how do they do that? And I think finding a

1007
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 9: way to get more guys paid and get more guys

1008
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 9: to the pot of goal. That's the end of the

1009
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 9: rainbow for every pro athlete.

1010
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 6: That you know.

1011
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 9: You have to find ways to do that because if

1012
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 9: they're going to be taking on more damage and guys

1013
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 9: continue to get bigger and faster. And I think you

1014
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 9: can see the difference in seventeen from sixty sixteen games.

1015
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 9: These guys are more beat up than they were, Like,

1016
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 9: I think these teams come in more beat up. In fact,

1017
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 9: I think it's a huge fact the Patriots and Seahawks

1018
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 9: are generally healthy. I mean if you get like what

1019
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 9: huge injuries if those teams at that, like really.

1020
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: They had a kid go off the Seattle seats do

1021
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: you have but that was but.

1022
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: They even worry if you're yeah, yeah, that was interesting.

1023
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 9: I'll be interested to see what is okay, So you don't.

1024
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: Know Patriot games? Is that what we call it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1025
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: I like that.

1026
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: I like that doing it though you know they're playing games,

1027
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1028
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: And I'm a little confused when you mentioned this earlier,

1029
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: you said the nfl P doesn't have an executive director

1030
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: right now? Why not? What happened? What happened to Lloyd.

1031
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: He was throwing them one making it right? It might

1032
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: might it might have been the cheering game.

1033
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: Can we stay really, I'm gonna stay on the ownership

1034
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: for for quick and obviously the what some people think,

1035
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: you know, I gotta do it since we're doing all

1036
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: these conspiracy theories and Patriot games and man cheering. Uh Tish,

1037
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: mister Tish, Yeah, Steve Tish, what's the what's the latest

1038
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: on that? What do you think the next I mean,

1039
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: is it as simple as his statement is? Is being

1040
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: taken that phace value? What was this investigation look like?

1041
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: How do you see this play? We talked but they

1042
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: were all adult women?

1043
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 9: Yes, oh yeah, okay, it's still like I mean, we're

1044
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 9: still we're still waiting into the world's oldest industry, right,

1045
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 9: so where we're going, right, it's like a different I mean,

1046
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 9: I think like the NFL, the way they handle these

1047
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 9: things and have handled these things over the years is

1048
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 9: they've sort of let the public relations fall out happen

1049
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 9: and then assessed the damage after. And we've seen that

1050
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 9: happen over and over again. And I just I feel

1051
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 9: like listening to Roger if you want to be cynical

1052
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 9: about it.

1053
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: The other day.

1054
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 9: It just seems like he's kind of like, let's see

1055
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 9: how this all plays out, and let's see if this

1056
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 9: is a problem for us. Because here's the thing, all right,

1057
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 9: you guys know how long it took them to not

1058
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 9: to get down Snyder out of there, right?

1059
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: And the reason why.

1060
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 9: Is because all those guys that like, I'm not saying

1061
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 9: everybody has skeletons like this in their closet, but everybody

1062
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 9: has skeletons in their closet. And I don't think the

1063
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 9: owners want the precedent of taking someone's team away now,

1064
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 9: like because once that happens, now, every time something happens

1065
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 9: with one of the owners that is immoral or whatever

1066
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 9: on the top and blood and then they don't want

1067
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 9: that precedent. So and you got to remember, this isn't

1068
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 9: like the commission when he's standing up there talking about

1069
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 9: a coach or a player.

1070
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: These are his bosses, you know.

1071
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 9: So and I thought it was interesting because usually Roger

1072
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 9: is pretty pretty controlling and and and and has really

1073
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 9: good feel for what he can say and what he

1074
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 9: can say can't say. Like at the press conference the

1075
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 9: other day, somebody asked him about the personal content policy,

1076
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 9: and his answer was I don't think we're there yet

1077
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 9: when he was talking about Tish right, And then I

1078
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 9: asked him a few minutes later, I said, do you

1079
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 9: think this reflects poorly on the league? And he said, well, sure,

1080
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 9: but that's what the personal conduct policy is for. So

1081
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 9: he at one point said we're not there yet in

1082
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 9: the personal conducts policy, and now he's saying no, this

1083
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 9: is sort of the lane that it'll fall into. I've

1084
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 9: just seen this too many times where.

1085
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: We can talk.

1086
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 9: He can stand up there and say as much as

1087
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 9: he wants, like the owners are holding held the highest standard,

1088
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 9: higher standard than players, higher standard than coaches. It's just

1089
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 9: not true, right, and it's going to take more for

1090
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 9: an owner to be sanctioned in a way that's really

1091
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 9: going to hurt him, and for a guy to have

1092
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 9: his team taken away. I don't think that that's anything

1093
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 9: any of the owners want. Because of the president. It

1094
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 9: says how much longer does Roger Goodell have? And then

1095
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 9: is there someone who's in line to succeed him? I mean,

1096
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 9: I think that's part of the problem, Like is that

1097
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 9: there I don't know. I think that guy with Brian

1098
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 9: Rolap who left. And you know, I think when roll

1099
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 9: Up left who you know, people don't know him. He

1100
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 9: basically ran media for the NFL. He was it wasn't

1101
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 9: officially second in command, but I think most people viewed

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Speaker 9: him as the second command.

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Speaker 6: He loved.

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Speaker 9: He left to go run the PGA. I think that

1105
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 9: I'm involved in that, like all these guys. I think

1106
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 9: all these guys are starting to age out. Though LeVar

1107
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 9: come back, though, I mean he could, he could come back,

1108
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 9: but he's in his mid fifties now. And traditionally they

1109
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 9: have like, all right, like we're bringing somebody in who

1110
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 9: we want to have in here for twenty years, so

1111
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 9: they have the investment in the league, and so, like

1112
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 9: I know, for a roll Up like that was part

1113
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 9: of the equation was I'm whatever, he is, fifty five,

1114
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 9: fifty six years old, Roger is definitely going to do

1115
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 9: a new deal.

1116
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Speaker 1: That was the feeling.

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00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 9: At least if Roger's here for another five or ten

1118
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 9: years now, I'm going to be my sixties. They're not

1119
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 9: going to put somebody in their sixties in that office,

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Speaker 9: you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean.

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Speaker 9: And so I think that's something that a lot of

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00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 9: owners have been asking questions on because they have lost

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00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 9: guy Chris Halpin was another one who you know who

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Speaker 9: left the league probably five years ago, who had been earmarked.

1126
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Speaker 9: And you know there are still names there. You know,

1127
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 9: Peter O'Reilly is somebody who runs the international business and.

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Speaker 1: So we got a little Patty sweek good Irish lab.

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Speaker 1: So so there, I mean, they're they're, they're there's.

1130
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Speaker 9: Not somebody lined up the way Roger was in like

1131
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 9: O two oh three oh four, where a.

1132
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Speaker 1: Lot of people knew.

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Speaker 9: And I don't think Roger to be honest with you,

1134
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 9: like I did a lot of reporting on this. I

1135
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 9: did a story on him four or five months ago

1136
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 9: on the good and the bad of Roger as the commissioner,

1137
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 9: and and uh like some people feel like that's intentional

1138
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 9: that he doesn't that he hasn't groomed a success.

1139
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: Or, has no interest in.

1140
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 9: You, he has no interest in leaving anytime soon for him,

1141
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 9: And and the feeling would be like if some owners

1142
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 9: feel like there's a new voice, then if he hasn't

1143
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 9: groomed a successor, well then who because it's such a

1144
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 9: complicated and.

1145
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: He's also wiped the floor with the union for he

1146
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: has done a good job.

1147
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1148
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 9: I mean, like that's the other thing is like, look

1149
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 9: at the health of the broadcast deals and where the

1150
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 9: broadcast deals are probably going next. It's going to be astronomical,

1151
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 9: you know, obviously, like you said, like his ability to

1152
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 9: command the labor situation, He's done that, you know, So

1153
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 9: I think, you know, the owners look at it and

1154
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 9: see a guy who isn't perfect but has done a

1155
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 9: really good job for them, wants to stay in the role.

1156
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 9: And I don't think Roger has any time Lee has

1157
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 9: any interest in leaving anytime soon. He'll, I'm sure, do

1158
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 9: a new contract and then the question will be whether

1159
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 9: that's his last contract, the same way it was the

1160
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 9: last time he did for his loss, but at the

1161
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 9: beginning of his loss.

1162
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: Speaking to Alberbreer with us here finishing up with ab

1163
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: here live from Radio Row at Fox Sports Radio two

1164
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: Pros and a Cup of Joe. Robert Kraft not in

1165
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame again, Yeah, all right, so what gives? Like,

1166
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: what do we He's in a Super Bowl again? Seems

1167
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: in another supero.

1168
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 9: I actually thought the Belichick one was more egregious. But

1169
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 9: I you know, Robert should be into you know, I

1170
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 9: think it's the process and not to you know, it

1171
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 9: take a while to.

1172
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: Go through the whole thing.

1173
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 9: But really the way you want to look at this

1174
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 9: is you have the modern era candidates is what we

1175
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 9: that's what we all think of is like the normal

1176
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 9: category going in and what they way we've set it

1177
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 9: up now is that there's this like category where you

1178
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 9: have three seniors candidates, a contributor, and a coach, and

1179
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 9: so you're voting on five guys.

1180
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: The voters are voting on five guys.

1181
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 9: The three seniors candidates are by definition last chance guys, right,

1182
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 9: So that's Elsie Greenwood, That's that's Kenny Anderson, and that's

1183
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 9: Roger Craig. So those three guys are the last chance guys.

1184
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 9: Then you have a coaching contributor who are basically like

1185
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 9: the modern era candidates. You can kind of keep voting

1186
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 9: on them.

1187
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: So isn't that.

1188
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 9: Flawed if you're looking at these guys like look at

1189
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 9: these three guys in this context and these two guys

1190
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 9: in that context. And then you have like some older

1191
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 9: voters who believe that there's this backlog of players that

1192
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 9: they have to get in.

1193
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: While they're still in the committee.

1194
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 9: So it's like those guys are saying, no, well I

1195
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 9: can't and you already have the thing where And I

1196
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 9: agree with this like players before, coaches, coaches before, gms

1197
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 9: and owners right like, so I look at it like

1198
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 9: and I think the saying is like the closer you

1199
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 9: are to the ball, the closer.

1200
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: You are to the hall, right, like, it's just if you.

1201
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 9: If I'm looking at it, and I say, like, man,

1202
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 9: Roger Craig, and I think there's a great case for

1203
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 9: Roger Craig. I think Roger Craig will get in, right

1204
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 9: like he sort of should. He changed the running back position, right,

1205
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 9: so he was the fore runner for Thurman Thomas, who

1206
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 9: was the fore runner for Marshall Fox, who's the four

1207
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 9: runner absolutely now, right, And so I think there's a

1208
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 9: great case for Roger Craig. If you had to vote

1209
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 9: for one guy and you look at and say, well,

1210
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 9: I might not get another chance to vote Roger Craig in,

1211
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 9: And Belichick's going to get in eventually.

1212
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: So and I think it's bad, it's and that's the way.

1213
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: But the problem is to a moment like.

1214
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 4: To make that the same yeah, they're in the same category,

1215
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 4: and then and having to like basically chalk it up

1216
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 4: to someone who maybe their last chance that oh you

1217
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 4: happen to be there when the year of Bill Belichick

1218
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 4: was eligible.

1219
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: But how do you justify a four time Super Bowl champ,

1220
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 2: a two time first team All Pro, tons of Pro

1221
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: Bowls like L. C. Greenwood is a victim. It's same

1222
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: as Roger Craig, a team full of Hall of famers.

1223
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: That's said, that's a saying commentary, why is.

1224
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 4: There a cap? Why doesn't it come down to voting

1225
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 4: percentage per player? Like why don't they look at it

1226
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 4: doing it a little bit different? So instead of saying

1227
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 4: we have a set male we're putting in every year,

1228
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 4: there might be years.

1229
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 9: The way it works with that category is a little

1230
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 9: different in that, like, so you can only vote for three, right, right,

1231
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying, And then it's and then it's

1232
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 9: eighty percent, and so that if you do the math

1233
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 9: of that, like it's actually so let's say I thought

1234
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 9: Belichick was gonna sweep. So I'm stunned. I like I

1235
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 9: talked to voters, I really respect I thought it was

1236
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 9: fifty for fifty. I thought there was no way anybody.

1237
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: Well, Bill, don't know who you voted for Yeah. I

1238
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: thought I thought no one could check that.

1239
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 9: I thought I didn't think anybody could sit there and

1240
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 9: not check that box.

1241
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: That was my opinion. How could you sit there with

1242
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: that in front of you and not how could you

1243
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: not know? Right?

1244
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 4: Like, of all the candidates, could you really the one

1245
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: that was like your nemesis?

1246
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: I check that one?

1247
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 9: Did you?

1248
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: Did you not? I don't know?

1249
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 9: But but if you actually do the math of it, right,

1250
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 9: So let's say Belichick went fifty for fifty. Now you're

1251
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 9: talking about you have one hundred and fifty total votes,

1252
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 9: three vest yes votes for all fifty voters. Now you

1253
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 9: have four guys trying to get to forty votes with

1254
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 9: only one hundred available. That's hard, and so the math

1255
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 9: becomes really difficult. And I actually think it should be

1256
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 9: hard to get in. Yeah, but I don't think you

1257
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 9: should be voting on gaming somebody in. I think you

1258
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 9: should be voting on here's a list of five. If

1259
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 9: there are four yeses, I take the four most obvious yeses,

1260
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 9: not like, oh well this guy can I can put

1261
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 9: this guy in anytime, So I'm just gonna put the.

1262
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: Fourth guy in. Albert always fun Man, thank you for

1263
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: making the jog over here. It's a year going to

1264
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: that show or yeah.

1265
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 9: I think I have to because it was only like

1266
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 9: a tents of a well, yeah, and you gotta leave it.

1267
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: What time we have a I think the bus has

1268
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: started at six.

1269
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 9: I'm not going to make it back here by six,

1270
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 9: but the buses are right over there at my hotels.

1271
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: Okay, they could get a real spicy I know that

1272
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: this is better for you than New Orleans, Brady.

1273
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I felt like the last time we were

1274
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 4: here the city was in a better spot than now.

1275
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: Now.

1276
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: We ventured out more yesterday, and I take some of

1277
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 4: that back because.

1278
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: Like getting in, you need to know where to go

1279
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: in this it's a beautiful. I'd love to see, That's

1280
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1281
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: I was like, it's it's it was kind of sad

1282
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 4: to see some of what's still going on.

1283
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: And you know what, they could probably use some food

1284
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 2: with their food, Well, they could use some Louisiana.

1285
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: That's right. I let you guys know that.

1286
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: Look, the big game is here in Santa Clair. My

1287
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 2: man ab just gave us a ton of game, and

1288
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: you can get up on game with the original Louisiana

1289
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: has sauce as well. You can keep it, make it hot,

1290
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 2: make good, three simple ingredients of peppers, vinegar, and sold.

1291
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: Instead of a touchdown dance, you'll be busting out the

1292
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: bourbon street boogie.

1293
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: That's Louisiana Hut. Make sure you mat you sou it

1294
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Speaker 1: is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on

1295
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,120
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1296
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,120
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