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And uh man, it's been a it's 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 5: been a day for. 35 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 7: The whole crew, our whole little crew. 36 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: Man. 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 5: Everybody's gonna have something happen today. But you know what, 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 5: we persevere and here we are no doubt. 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: It has been a crazy Wednesday as the holidays about 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: to kick off and all that. So man, we'll get 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: through it. We got a great show for you today. 42 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: We have a lot of stuff to get to I'm 43 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Let's welcome in Kelvin, our odd 44 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: couple crew, because we wouldn't be able to do them 45 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: without We wouldn't be able to do this find radio 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: program without them. 47 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: I'll get it out. Rob g is our producer, is 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: in instead in the studio. 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Wow, Alex of course is our engineer. 50 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: Martin Weiss is at the anchor desk. He'll keep us updated. 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: And Saga, that's right. Saga is our social media guru. 52 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: And for Elijah who's still on vacation, there you go, oh, 53 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: that's for Elijah, not for Saga. 54 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: So a lot of stuff to get to Kelvin. We 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: could just kick it off the news of the day. 56 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: You want to introduce it the news of the day. 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, the news of the day would be that 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 5: the New York Knickerbockers went ahead and finally got a 59 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 5: coach after all this time. And that coach would be 60 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 5: one none other than Mike Brown. He is now the 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 5: head coach for the next And uh, this is, you know, 62 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 5: coming after some weeks of trying to find one, which 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 5: was interesting when they let Tims go. 64 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 7: Who would it be? 65 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 5: There are some bigger names out there you thought that 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 5: would be in consideration that weren't. And then we know 67 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 5: Rob also that they had had a list of a 68 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 5: handful of people that some never. 69 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 7: Even were able to get interviews, some were able to. 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: Get already had jobs, you know what I mean? 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, a team likeel like you're looking to talk 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: to No, No, he's under contract. 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 5: You can't be calling him. Hey, hello, Rockets, is email available? 74 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: Right? 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: Jason kidd? I know you got a new contract with 76 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: the and. 77 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 7: A number one draft pick coming up? 78 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Like, yeah, so they had a crazy Yeah, 79 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 5: they had a few. Quinn Snyder would be another one, 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 5: Taylor Jenkins, a lot of a halful of people who 81 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 5: had some They did have some meetings and took some interviews, 82 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, Mike Brown got 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 5: the the opportunity. So yeah, so there you have it. 84 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 5: They got their guy do they believe will lead them 85 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 5: to the future. 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 7: What say you? 87 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: Okay, if I'm a New York Knicks fan today, I 88 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: am melancholy. 89 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: I am a Debbie Downer. 90 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: I am distraught because Mike Brown really the Knicks. You know, 91 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: Mike Brown's been around, what is this his fifth start? 92 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be like his fifth fifth team, I should say. 93 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: I know he did the Cavs twice, but this will 94 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: be like his fifth time being a head coach, and 95 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: very they seldom Kelvin Washington, does a coach win a 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: championship after making that many stops? 97 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: Okay, it just normally doesn't happen that way. 98 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: I can think of one guy it's happened too, and 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: that's about it, off the top of my head, who 100 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: made numerous stops and won later on in his career. 101 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: So the Knicks wanted Larry Brown, but I think they 102 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: got closer to Charlie Brown by hiring Mike Brown. I mean, 103 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: Larry Brown did it. Larry Brown won the Pistons with 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: the championship with the Pistons later after being with a 105 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: lot of teams. 106 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: But he ain't Larry Brown. 107 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: Larry Brown also won a championship in college. Larry Brown's 108 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: the only coach who won in the NBA and in 109 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: college basketball. So you're talking about a select group. Mike 110 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Brown hasn't won anything zero zip na. And they thought 111 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: they had something going and Sacramento couldn't win the big game, right. 112 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: There were a couple of times where you thought the 113 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: King's gonna They're gonna beat up Warriors and move on. 114 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: No way, no how, I don't know how you get excited. 115 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: To me, it feels like the Knicks went to kick 116 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: the football and they got it pulled from them. They 117 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: missed it. 118 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 7: YEP. 119 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm all for getting rid of TIBs. 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: I told you that that after they lost the first 121 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: two games in the Eastern Conference Finals at home, including 122 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: that debacle in Game one fourteen points with two thirty 123 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: eight to go, I have no issue with them being fired, 124 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: but to hire another guy who's been around for a while, 125 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: had these teams, never really has won anything. 126 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: Coached you know, in Cleveland and coached for the Lakers 127 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: and all that. 128 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: When the Lakers think he got fired in the second year, 129 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: right after five or six games. 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 2: You remember that disaster. 131 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 1: So my point is, if you're Nick Nation or whatever 132 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: you want to call themselves, Nick faithful or whatever, my god, 133 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: is that all they came away with Mike Brown. 134 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not with it. 135 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 5: Look, if they're Nick faithful, if they're Nick faithful, they 136 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 5: out here about to be Nick looking at other things 137 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 5: right now, Nick cheating, They ain't about to be faithful 138 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 5: right now. 139 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: Rob. 140 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: This is a couple of things. So you touched on 141 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 5: something I want to go back to. I'm not gonna 142 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 5: act like Tom Thibodeau was Phil Jackson. I said that 143 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: during in real time you and now my thing was 144 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 5: all right, then if you have to have in my opinion, 145 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 5: of playing, if we're letting it go a guy who's 146 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 5: had the most success there in twenty two years, he 147 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 5: has now surpassed Pat Riley for the most wins, fourth 148 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 5: most wins in NICK history. He had eleven playoff wins. 149 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 5: He had four appearances in five seasons. So you had 150 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 5: a guy who was creating something, who had gotten you 151 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 5: all the way to game and a half away from 152 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 5: the finals. So to me, okay, you're letting them go 153 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 5: to get and this was my concern. 154 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 7: This was my issue. 155 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 5: And they went from you know, going to New York 156 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 5: going as it's some huge Broadway plays to going to 157 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 5: see a community center play. Now you got Mike Brown, 158 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 5: who's some of the highlights on his career. 159 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 7: He got Coach of the Year in two thousand and nine. 160 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 5: Pretty easy to get a Coach of the Year or 161 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 5: at least be a candidate when you got that era of. 162 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 7: Lebron James right. 163 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 5: Then you go to the Warriors for a few when 164 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 5: Kirk Steve kerb is going through some things. You coach 165 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 5: there for a little bit, so you get some wins 166 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 5: with them. But after that, to me, it's been underachieving. 167 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 5: You underachieved with the Lakers. You had that same team 168 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 5: that came back from an NBA Finals appearance, NBA Championship, 169 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 5: and you underachieved with them. Then the next year, as 170 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 5: you mentioned, you only coach five games. You underachieved the 171 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 5: Sacramento with some really good two all NBA guys and 172 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 5: Ta Bonus and the Aaron Fox and some other players 173 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 5: quality players as well. When they got around was at 174 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 5: the two seed you lost in the playoffs. 175 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 7: So to me, you went and got a guy. 176 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 5: That's one of those well who always get a good job. 177 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 5: Everybody seems to like him, seems to be a nice guy. 178 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 5: And I'm not even saying he's not a solid coach. 179 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 5: There's thirty jobs. Somebody has to have a job. But 180 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 5: for a Nick team that had a chance to get 181 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 5: back in the Eastern Conference at finals and maybe get 182 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 5: to the finals because the East is wide open, this 183 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 5: to me did not womy. 184 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 7: This did not move the needle. 185 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 5: And if as you mentioned, as a Knick fan, I 186 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 5: would be like wait what, and I would actually be upset. 187 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 5: And this goes back to James Dolan mentioning we just 188 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 5: do weird things himself. Sometimes we overreact, sometimes we chase 189 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 5: the shining thing. And to me, he did it again 190 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: by overreacting, chasing the shining thing and getting rid of 191 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 5: somebody who again, fine, fine, then you have to have 192 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 5: a better plan and contingency plan. And I didn't see that, 193 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 5: And this is why the Knicks be nicking. This is 194 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 5: why the Knicks be nicking and ruin up situation. 195 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: The one thing I hear you, I'm aa disagree though. 196 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry with the tibbs. You know, you say you 197 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: got wins. Pat Rodley took the Knicks to the finals 198 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: like this, you know, like so so he can have 199 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: more wins than Pat Roley and all. 200 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: This other stuff. 201 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 7: But Rob. 202 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: After they No, I'm just saying I don't have any 203 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: issue once they lost that series, and I'm just saying 204 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: they all had expectations after they beat Celtics that they 205 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: were going to the finals. And then you lose Game 206 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: one in that fashion and then you being a coach, hey, 207 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: you can shake off one game, right, It's only one game. 208 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: They lost Game two at home and that was the series. 209 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: So I don't have an issue with them firing them. 210 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: What I do is I have an issue with going 211 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: out to get a coach who has a track record 212 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: of not winning. That that's the issue I have. And 213 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: I think that's where you got to look at it 214 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: and go and I get it. There aren't a million 215 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: coaches with a championship trophy in their back pocket. 216 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: And I talked about. 217 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: Michael Malone and I guess they had some bad blood 218 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: or something before, so they you know, I guess they 219 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: held that against them, and which is fine if they 220 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: wanted to do that, but I would have to And 221 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: once they talked to the players and the exit interviews, 222 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: and they felt like Tims had to go because that's 223 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: what this was. 224 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: This wasn't a plan. 225 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: They just signed a guy in the offseason to a 226 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: new extension, so this was not the plan. 227 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: They thought they had their guy. 228 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: You gotta remember their president and GM used to be 229 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: was his agent, you know what I mean, like they 230 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: have a relationship. They didn't do this just just because 231 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: they were scheming to do this all along. This thing happened, 232 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: they didn't get to the finals, and then they talked 233 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: to the players on the way out who weren't feeling 234 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: tips enough to make them say, you know what, let's 235 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: give them another shot at this. So I don't have 236 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: the issue with the firing. I just think there were 237 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: other people or take a chance. I'd even take a 238 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: chance on somebody who you really believe might have that 239 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: it thing and might be the new hotness, rather than 240 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: a retread who hasn't been able to get over the hump. 241 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: You're gonna look back at this. 242 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: There are people in New York, you know, hoping and wishing, 243 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: going maybe this is like when the Yankees hired Joe 244 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: Tory and everybody was down on Joe Tory. The headline 245 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: in the Daily News in New York when Joe Tory 246 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: got hired for the Yankee Kees was clueless Joe, and 247 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: he went on to win five World Series, right, well 248 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: for four or five World. 249 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: Series with the Yankees. 250 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: Four uh so, so people are hoping that it's that, 251 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, like it wasn't a popular higher. 252 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: But he also had Derek Jeter and Marian. 253 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 5: Right come in, good man, Andy Pettitt. I mean they 254 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: had that group was special. There's you that was a 255 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 5: special group. They had five guys that came up to you. 256 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: Joge Posada, I'm one hundred percent So Joe, you want 257 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: to get them all the flowers, that's fine. But but 258 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: the group that he had that was developed in the 259 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: Yankees minor league system was different. This Nick team was 260 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: ready to win last year. They made all the moves, 261 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: all the picks from Michael Bridges, they made the trade 262 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: for Cat Kelvin. 263 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: This was supposed to be it, and it didn't happen. 264 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 5: And my my only thing we were not. I'm not 265 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: overly mad at the firing it since again I don't 266 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 5: think he is the greatest coach of all time. 267 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 7: You let him go. My issue, I've told you was 268 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 7: what was the plan? 269 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 5: But also I'll say this, this is where we will 270 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 5: absolutely fundamentally disagree. 271 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 7: I the firing would. 272 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 5: Suggest that maybe all of a sudden, they're like, oh 273 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 5: I lean more to Maybe there were some players issue 274 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 5: Karl Anthony Towns who also had the same agent, maybe 275 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 5: upset he didn't get some crucial minutes in the game 276 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 5: the game. I can understand that, But to me, I 277 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 5: don't like the firing when it comes to saying the expectations. Dude, 278 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 5: nobody thought the Knicks were getting to the Finals before 279 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: the season and even during the playoffs. I get what 280 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 5: you're saying, they beat the Celtics, now you have to 281 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 5: go to But what I'm saying against Chang you got 282 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 5: to a game six against a eventual really good team 283 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 5: and his pacers. 284 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 7: Maybe we all undermess edit them all year. That to 285 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 7: me doesn't signal firing Cruse. 286 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. I agree that you 287 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: could lose to the patient. 288 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: But you can't give up a fourteen point lead at 289 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: home with two thirty eight. That is the If you 290 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: don't get fired off of that Kelvin, you'll never get 291 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: there could be no reason to fire you. And that 292 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: is that is an all time choke job. Would you 293 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: agree with that day told? I mean, yeah, I mean 294 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: it was one and whatever, but you know, I told 295 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: you I think it was more of a pacer. 296 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 5: That's a story for another day, but I just it's 297 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 5: gonna be what They had one playoff win series in 298 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: twenty two years. I believe it was the Knicks prior 299 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: to him, and to me, they should have another because 300 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: they're the East is wide open. But don't put yourself 301 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 5: back in a situation where you're no longer relevant. 302 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 7: We all enjoy the Knicks being relevant. It's good for 303 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 7: the NBA. 304 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 5: And so I just didn't like the hire of Mike 305 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 5: Brown for this situation. Not that Mike Brown couldn't be 306 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: the Hornets or the Jazz or some other coach, but 307 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 5: specifically for a Nick team that realistically has championship aspirations. 308 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 7: I didn't like to hire. 309 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: All Right eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox on 310 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: This Worship Wednesday eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six sixty 311 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: three sixty nine. 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Hope y'all 356 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 9: have a good upcoming forth coming. 357 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: Up YouTube buddy, Thank you, sir. 358 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 7: Yes, sir. Yeah. 359 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 9: To me, Mike Brown is the exact same coach as 360 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 9: Doc Rivers. When you can't find another coach and you 361 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 9: don't know what else to do, just hire Doc Rivers 362 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 9: or just hire Mike Brown. It's like the knee jerk 363 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 9: reaction if they had just come right out and hired 364 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 9: him and say no, we want him because of this. 365 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 9: To that, okay, but they went through all. They brought 366 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 9: in Don Staley and line Us, whe Schroeder, who else. 367 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: Even Snoopy interview for the job. 368 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 7: I'm just saying, that's funny. 369 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: Woa woah wah woah woah wah, whoa wah woah woah wah. 370 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 7: That was the interview. That was the interview. That's wh 371 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 7: whoa whoa, whoa w whoa whah woh. You know what. 372 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 5: I appreciate the call and I joked about it too. 373 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 5: Mike Woodson is that same type of guy. 374 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: Bring That's what Mike Brown heard when he was being interviewed, 375 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: right I was. 376 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 7: He just did I get the job? 377 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: So I get the job? 378 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: How about Mike in Texas? You're in the couple of 379 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Mike? 380 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 7: How are you? 381 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 5: Hey? 382 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 9: What's up? 383 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 6: Fellows? I'm doing great? 384 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 9: How are y'all doing? 385 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 7: Doing awesome? 386 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, I couldn't believe it either. Man. 387 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 9: They should have made a big splash. 388 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 6: They could have. 389 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 9: I I guess Mike Malone he didn't want to coach anymore. 390 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 7: I would. 391 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 9: I would have been the first George. 392 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: They got some bad blood. 393 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Mike Malone to me, I just if 394 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to go out and go ahead, Mike, finish 395 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: your point. 396 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 397 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 9: And and what about Mark Jackson. 398 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 6: He's just been black bowed to death on this. 399 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 9: He just rough him completely off. 400 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: He has as as it comes to coaching. I mean, 401 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: it's it's obvious. 402 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, somehow it didn't stop him from broadcasting 403 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: the league, but amongst owners, it just seemed like. 404 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: I don't have any proof, but but it looks like 405 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: a black ball to me. 406 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 7: That's what. 407 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 408 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: I think there's some job I think, Yeah, I think 409 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: there's some behind the scenes and maybe some ideologies that 410 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 5: they that he may have that they don't align with. 411 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 7: That may be something something new. 412 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: Well, But there's some other issues too. When he was there. 413 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: I know that there was some stuff that went on 414 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: with the Warriors, but the word must have got out, 415 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: you know. 416 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, is that that they know, like 417 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 5: I said, some ideologies that might not fly with some 418 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 5: other people in this league. 419 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 7: So thank you for the call. Appreciate it. 420 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of the rare times we both you know, 421 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 5: we just agreed that it was very underwhelming for it 422 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 5: for first of all, for the Knicks specifically. Right again, 423 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 5: we're not talking about the Hornets. We're not talking about 424 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 5: the Orlando Magic. We're talking about the Knicks, who finally relevant, 425 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 5: the Knicks, who really had a legitimate chance to get 426 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 5: to the finals and who have still in the sense 427 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 5: that the East is wide open and this is what 428 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 5: they do. 429 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 7: It's kind of like, oh, okay, like no Nick, no Nick. 430 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 5: Fan of mine, the friend of mine who is a 431 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 5: fan has tweeted, has posted something like nothing. They're like, oh, 432 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 5: Mike Brown, that's yay you subsequent Lebron, yay, yay, Hey Ron. 433 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 7: If you threw a. 434 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 5: Mustache on him, it's just me, Mike Woodson. Throw that 435 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 5: black dyed mustache on there. It's just Mike Woodson. Same dude, 436 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 5: I just don't need somebody go get him. 437 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, I was all in on making a 438 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: change after that, not getting to the finals. But this 439 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: is underwhelming. And as you said, I have friends, my 440 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: my New York friends, and I'm you know, a part 441 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: of a couple of group Texas like crickets. Like nobody's like, 442 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: oh we got our guy. Oh my god, we're gonna 443 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: go to the finals next year. 444 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 7: Oh they're not even mad either. That just shows how 445 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 7: indifferent it is. 446 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: Just like it's indifferent. 447 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 5: It's just like, Okay, yeah, I know who he is. 448 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 5: He's had some success, Yeah, he's he's been all right. 449 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 5: There you have it, Edny House, ask Eddie about that. 450 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 5: On the other side, that's the odd couple, Rob and 451 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 5: Kelvin on the worship Wednesday, And as mentioned, we are 452 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 5: joined now by our guy, Eddie House, Emmy winner. That's right, 453 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 5: he is an Emmy winner and of course NBA champion, 454 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 5: NBC Sports Boston, Fox Sports Radio, NBA analyst Eddie House 455 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 5: Underscore fifty on X What up, ed Eddie? 456 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: What up? 457 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 9: What up? What up? 458 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 6: Mark? 459 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? 460 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: Man? 461 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 6: I ain't talking to him in a minute. So I 462 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 6: wanted to shout out him real quick, what's up with 463 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 6: your brother? 464 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 7: What's up? Real good to hear from you right on. 465 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Eddie, did the Knicks get Larry Brown or 466 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Charlie Brown? Because this is how the interview went in 467 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: New York. 468 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: Who take care? 469 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 6: Hey, you're not right, man, You're not right. 470 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: But that. 471 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 9: Heap bump barm. 472 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 7: Was classic. 473 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: Whenever the teacher talked to Charlie Bright, it was classic. 474 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 7: You know what, you get my point. 475 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: The only reason I say this is Larry Brown. 476 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: Was able to win after multiple stops, you know, like 477 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: later in his career with the Pistons, after he was 478 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: coached for four or five teams, And this is what 479 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: Mike Brown is trying to do. It just doesn't move 480 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: the needle for me, Eddie. You know, I'm not saying 481 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: that he can't coach or whatever. He just hadn't done 482 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: enough for me to feel good about this. 483 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 6: Well, I'll say this about Mike Brown. For whatever reason, 484 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 6: in the first few years they played really really hard 485 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 6: for him, Okay, and then it almost like his message 486 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 6: wears off. You know, you only could do so much 487 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 6: of the same thing before it doesn't have an effect. 488 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 6: You know, you could take your woman out every single 489 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 6: night for sake dinner, you know, or every every Friday 490 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 6: for steak dinner. And then eventually she gonna be like, Okay, 491 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 6: can we do something different? 492 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 9: You know what I mean? 493 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 7: I went through that. 494 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: I'm sorry you weren't taking it from you stake them. 495 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 6: You know, he was taking he was taking her. He 496 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 6: was taking her for wings for himself. 497 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 7: Still pulling out the coupon, Yeah, and pulling. 498 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 6: Out the goupon for real. They trying to get a 499 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 6: break out there wherever you can go to get the breaks, 500 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But I think that's that's 501 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 6: been Mike Brown's kind of yeah, his the way he's 502 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 6: been coaching, and you know, at first, it's lively, it's different, 503 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 6: it's a different voice. You feel good you and he 504 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 6: has got playing think about it. In Sacramento, they was 505 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 6: out there rocking for a minute, you know what I mean, 506 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, it was like he's fired, 507 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Because I think that sometimes 508 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 6: that same message falls on deaf ears where you're like, 509 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 6: all right, we didn't heard this before, and so maybe 510 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 6: he has to switch up what he has to switch up. 511 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 6: Maybe this is just a bridge gap or whoever they 512 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 6: gonna get next time. You know what I'm saying, I 513 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: have no idea how it's gonna work out in New York. 514 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 6: And to be honest with you, I don't care. 515 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 516 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 5: Eddie actually Rob he said he loved He's like, wha, 517 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: thank god it didn't get her. 518 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 7: You know even better, coach, Yeah, they wasn't. 519 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 6: They won't. They weren't gonna get one. I think that 520 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 6: that job, to be honest with you, guys, I think 521 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 6: that that job was something that somebody didn't that people 522 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 6: didn't want to really take on because they just seen 523 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 6: what for the first time in twenty five years, You 524 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 6: go to the conference finals and then all of a 525 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 6: sudden he gets fired. He wins fifty games, he has 526 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 6: a record, and then all of a sudden you get fired. 527 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 6: That doesn't look like a desirable job for anybody. It 528 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 6: looks like a job, that's a dead end job. 529 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 1: Well, if you choke in game one and give up 530 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: fourteen points in the last two minutes, you got a 531 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: chance to get fired. Let me ask you this about 532 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: the Bucks and what they've done. Basically, I think what 533 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: they've done is we'll make you honest and you know, 534 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: I think Kelvin thought that this was ANX would be 535 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: the way of Jannie getting. 536 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: Out, but he's excited for the moves that they made. 537 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: Cutting Damian Lillard, how shocked were you at that that 538 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: they're going to eat one hundred and thirteen million dollars 539 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: and basically told him thank you, but no thank you. 540 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 6: Well, I think that what they looked at was okay, 541 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 6: so they cut that salary and then they bring on 542 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 6: somebody else on the other side that can help, be honest, 543 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 6: all right, And so to me it looks like an 544 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 6: organization that is saying, Yiannis, we don't want you to 545 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 6: go anywhere, you know, because if they didn't make any moves, 546 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 6: I think Giannis would would have made a move. But 547 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 6: since they made this move, I feel like that's the 548 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 6: move that where it shows like, hey, we're committed to you, 549 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 6: We're committed to try to build around you. You know 550 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 6: that Dame ain't gonna play next year, and we're willing 551 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 6: to bite that bullet. 552 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: You know for you right that Eddie watch spot on. 553 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna bite one hundred and thirteen million dollar bullet 554 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: because we know he can't help you next year as. 555 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: Much as we you know, we might like him or 556 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: people might like him. He can't play. 557 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's what I mean. I'm telling you what 558 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 6: I believe is that they're doing everything they can to 559 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 6: make sure they don't lose Jannie. Jannie is the centerpiece 560 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 6: of that team. Dame was an add on, you know 561 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 6: what I mean. He was an Ada. 562 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: Why didn't it work, Eddie? Why didn't it work? 563 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: When that trade went down, people were up, Oh my god, 564 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, I can't believe they got Dame to play 565 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: with his player like Giannis. 566 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: Finally we're going to see Dame Dalla and the Bucks 567 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: are going to have a chance. And it didn't work. 568 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: Why didn't it work? In Milwaukee? 569 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say it didn't work, because I think that 570 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 6: would be taking it too far, Rob to say that 571 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 6: it didn't work. I think that it took some time 572 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 6: for it to start to connect, and it started connecting, 573 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 6: and you could see that they were looking like a 574 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 6: team that okay, they could make some playoff runs. They 575 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 6: and once you start making a playoff run, anything can 576 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 6: happen once you get in the playoffs. And so when 577 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 6: Dame went down, that was it. They had no back 578 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 6: Bobby Porters. Think about Bobby Porters. He was suspended because 579 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 6: of the PDS, So they really never really had that 580 00:27:54,520 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 6: team together how they envisioned it from the beginning, and 581 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: so sometimes you got to just say, hey, man, you know, 582 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 6: cut your losses and say hey, we tried it, it 583 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 6: didn't work. Let's let's let's do something else. Let's let's 584 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 6: pivot and move in in different directions. So that's what 585 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 6: I think that Milwaukee is doing right now. Do I 586 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 6: think that they're going to be a contender next year 587 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 6: in the East. I mean the East is gonna be 588 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 6: wide open because there's a lot of injuries over there. 589 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 6: You know, Halli Burn's out, Jason Tatum is out, So 590 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 6: with Gianni's being over there, and I think I'm gonna 591 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 6: tell you an ascending team is the Orlando Magic, Young 592 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 6: Hung Greek. So you know, I think the East is 593 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 6: wide open right now. 594 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I completely agree. 595 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 5: This is This is absolutely if you ever thought you 596 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 5: had a year, if you're Orlando, if you're the Next, 597 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 5: if you're in Cleveland, if you're a handful of teams 598 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 5: that feel like, hey, this is we got a shot. 599 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 5: This is the year to do with Eddie house our 600 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 5: guest Eddie, I want to swing out West, a team 601 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 5: that had the current champions on the ropes to a 602 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 5: Game seven, and you could argue that wasn't their best 603 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: version of themselves. They just got a new coach. I'm 604 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 5: talking about the Denver Nuggets now. They've had a really 605 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 5: good off season thus far. What are you making with 606 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 5: what the Nuggets been able to do? We've already kind 607 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 5: of rob and I have covered the Rockets and some 608 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 5: moves they've made. What about the Knights for you? Did 609 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 5: they get themselves right back in contention in the West? 610 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 6: I believe so because you got to score in Tim 611 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 6: Hardaway Junior. You bring bad Bruce Brown, you know a 612 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 6: guy that helps you, helped lead, help go and get 613 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 6: a championship. You're surrounding Jokic with shooters, right, so he's 614 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 6: going to get all of the attention all the time. 615 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 6: And he's a winning passer. He's a great passer. Not 616 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 6: a good passer, but a great passer. Makes the right play. 617 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 6: The ball is on target, on time, right there, laced 618 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 6: up for you to knock a shot down. So I 619 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 6: think that they went out and I think they they've 620 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 6: been having a great offseason so far. You know, losing 621 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 6: Michael Porter Junior, you look at it like, okay, well 622 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 6: we gain three other guys that could probably do more, 623 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 6: that give you more production than that one person. I 624 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 6: like Am Datson, Yeah, I like Man. I love Cam Johnson. 625 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 6: I think Cam Johnson is a hell of a basketball player. 626 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 6: I remember watching him play out here in Phoenix when 627 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 6: he was playing and then when he went to New 628 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 6: Jersey excuse me, New Jersey, Brooklyn playing for the Nets. 629 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 7: I mean he is. 630 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 6: He's a hell of a basketball player. He can stress 631 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 6: the floor, all of those things. I feel like it's 632 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 6: going to help the Denver Nuggets. So they're gonna be 633 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 6: in They're gonna they're gonna be a team that's gonna 634 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 6: be in contention next year. If everybody stays healthy, there'll 635 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 6: be a team that we're talking about going to the 636 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 6: Western Conference finals. 637 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm sure that's what they want to 638 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 5: get back to, that position to have a championship, especially, 639 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: you don't want to wait waste any Yoka's years. 640 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 7: Addie Man, appreciate it as always. Enjoy the fourth and 641 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 7: this weekend. 642 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 6: On y'all two man, y'all be safe. 643 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 7: All right, for sure. 644 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: Eddy House again, always a pleasure having eat on with us. 645 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 5: We got Shekel City on the way. He see how 646 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 5: Rob dim if I can getting a little preview on 647 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 5: his face now he playing the poker face right now? 648 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 7: All right, all right, maybe not the best we got. 649 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 7: That's why. 650 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 5: Hey, that's how we hear you when you tell us 651 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 5: what to pick. I got this tonight, Yeah, Rob, Sure, 652 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 5: thank you, Rob. We'll go with that too. Shekel City 653 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 5: on the way. Is the Eye Couple Robin Kelvin on 654 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 5: the Worship Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio. 655 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: I was wrong. 656 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 657 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 658 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search f s 659 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: R to listen live. 660 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio. 661 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 5: The Odd Couple, Rob Parker, Kevin Washington on the Worship Wednesday, 662 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 5: dj Ali Alex on. 663 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 7: The ones A TWESDA And it's time now to get 664 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 7: to Shekel City. 665 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: Welcome to sheckls City for Ron Parkers Daley Dix against 666 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: the spread. 667 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 7: There we go, Charlie, ro that was it? 668 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: You didn't I just gave you the record from last night? 669 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 7: Didn't you hear me say it again? 670 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 5: Oh? 671 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 7: Okay? 672 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,239 Speaker 2: So you went one and two, one and two last night. 673 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 7: Very good, I speak. 674 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: You can read the Charlie Browns teacher, one and two 675 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: last night, one sixty six, one sixty nine. My best 676 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: bet Yankees had lost two in a row in Toronto, 677 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: and they're gonna make it three in a row. Because 678 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: I had the Yankees minus one and a half. They're 679 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: down seven nothing already. 680 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: You could have turned yourself my goodness, gracious. Also, I 681 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: got the Mets. They're scuffling. 682 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: Plus one and a half runs uh for the Metropolitans tonight. Uh. 683 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: And the last and final game took the Braves minus 684 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: one and a half run. 685 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: So Braves minus one. 686 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: And a half, Mets plus one and a half, and 687 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: the Yankees minus one and a half. You already know 688 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: is an l. But remember, Kelvin, what's that? I'm not 689 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: telling you who to bet on. I'm telling you who 690 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: I bet on. 691 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: What was that? 692 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: What? 693 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 7: All right? Well, let's getting out to the tire rack 694 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 7: player of the day. 695 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: Back to the wall. 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It is 706 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 5: the way tire buying should be rob you. And obviously 707 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 5: I'm from the metro Detroit area. You spent twenty something 708 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 5: years there, so we're very familiar with it. Then we're 709 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 5: very familiar with it now because we both get back. 710 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 5: You were just there over the weekend. Did you hear 711 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 5: the story about the WNBA player who had some thoughts 712 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 5: on these new teams that are possibly going to be 713 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 5: added to the WNBA. 714 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 7: Did you did you see that? I did. 715 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: I actually agree with her, but for different reasons. Go ahead, 716 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: I want to hear. 717 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 7: Okay, Well, she had a conversation. 718 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 5: They're talking about the teams that are going to be 719 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 5: added to the the WNBA and a couple of the 720 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 5: cities expansion, Yeah, and Detroit being one of them, as 721 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 5: well as Cleveland. 722 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 7: This is Sophie Cunningham, who. 723 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 5: Had mentioned that the Indiana Fever Star, and she just 724 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 5: went on essentially, I'm gonna paraphrase because obviously it's a 725 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 5: little lengthy, but she said, folks, are you know we 726 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 5: got a couple of points about expanding too fast? And 727 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 5: and also do you want to list to the players 728 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 5: where do they want to play? Where do they want 729 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 5: to go? Where are they most excited to play and 730 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 5: draw fans. I think that Miami would have been a 731 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 5: great location. Nashville's an amazing city, Kansas City an amazing opportunity. 732 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 7: And then she goes on to say, I know how 733 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 7: I don't. 734 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 5: Know how excited people are about going to Detroit or Cleveland, 735 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 5: And she took a little shot at Detroit and Cleveland. 736 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 7: So Cleveland and Cleveland and Detroit. 737 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 5: Social media for that area, for news sites and all 738 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 5: that have been taking shots at her. 739 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: But just. 740 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on the shots at the city 741 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 5: and just coming straightforward after shots. 742 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: I don't agree with those. I mean, I get it. 743 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 2: Whenever you say that people going to get their panties 744 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: in a bunch. 745 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 7: Figured the first time is literal. 746 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll know you're right, literally right, But my 747 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: point is if the WNBA failed in those cities, and 748 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: I think if she made that case rather than nobody 749 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: wanted to go to Cleveland or Detroit, I could understand 750 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: her message. 751 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 2: Nashville a big, booming, up and coming city, right. 752 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, we know about Miami and what was the 753 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: other city of Kansas City doesn't have basketball. So her 754 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: point is well taken that there are other places that 755 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: don't have it or don't have failed u w NBA teams, 756 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: And I think that is the argument the shots at 757 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,959 Speaker 1: the end, I think it's what clouded to make people 758 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: just kind of hate on it. But her point about 759 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: a I think it's too quick with the expansion. I 760 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: do agree with too many teams, but it is weird 761 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: that you're going back to two markets where it didn't work. 762 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 5: Which is so only thing I'll say about the shot, 763 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 5: and you you know, you were there. It was weird 764 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 5: because obviously ultimately they weren't this, you know, incredibly thriving team, 765 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 5: but they had a lot of success. They drew the 766 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 5: most fans there during their during a couple of years 767 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 5: in the w NBA, they had the most attendance. Everything 768 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 5: was twenty one thousand at a game they had won 769 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 5: a couple of times. 770 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 2: They weren't making any money. That's the reason that they moved. 771 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 2: They went to Tulsa. 772 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 5: I'm saying, which Lee me to also the other side 773 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 5: of this, prior to Caitlin Clark, Let's not act like 774 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 5: Indiana is this hot spot, you know what I mean. 775 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 5: Let's not act like that. Let's not act like, as 776 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 5: she mentioned Kansas City. I know they don't have basketball there, 777 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 5: but let's not act like it's the most desirable place. 778 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 7: I mean, I might go get to play the barbecue, 779 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 7: but that's it. 780 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 5: So for her kind of taking some shots, and especially 781 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 5: when Detroit, as you know, is downtown Detroit is a 782 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 5: really nice place. Now, I would I would. I would 783 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 5: have probably even conceded this in two thousand and five, 784 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 5: four or five. South Ay, Yeah, Detroit is thriving right now. 785 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 5: So uh but in Cleveland obviously as well, it's had 786 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 5: basketball there, baseball, football, mean, it's been one of the 787 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 5: more sports, better sports towns as well. So I think 788 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 5: her larger point to me would have been, are we 789 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 5: expanding too fast? If you're the w said that, That's 790 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. She stayed that too, you know, the possibility. 791 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 5: I think the city, she said, weren't crazy. I mean 792 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 5: my Miami. 793 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 7: I mean Miami is Miami. 794 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 5: But then you know you're going to the Heat game 795 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 5: to the fourth quarter, you think I'm just Miami heatlets. 796 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: Her point, I guess to me, was was that that 797 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 2: you're going back to two cities that failed. 798 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 5: That's all you just always wanted to bring up Detroit fail. 799 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 5: That's what you're trying to do. You guys see you 800 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 5: going back. 801 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: To your ex wife. 802 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 7: I'm not