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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in Final Showdowns Week eighteen. If you're

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Speaker 2: a National Football League season is upon us. Two games

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Speaker 2: in the book, a lot of handwringing, crying into beers

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Speaker 3: Should be excited to be here with the team. Happy

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Speaker 3: New Year.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the last day we actually get to

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Speaker 2: say that before people can hit you with uh, you know, butter.

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Speaker 3: Or soap in socks. As part of full.

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Speaker 2: Metal jacket like initiation by guys Andy Furman Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 2: with me as always, gentlemen, Welcome to week eighteen.

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Speaker 3: How are we doing this? Fine morning?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 4: Life is good.

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Speaker 3: My life is good. Bucky, you get over there?

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Speaker 2: He quit on me. Did I get loud enough? We

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Speaker 2: got Mark and Shay making us sound so pretty this morning.

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Speaker 2: As we get ready, we had the two games yesterday

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Baltimore. That's the undercard, even though it meant the

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Speaker 2: AFC North getting it done. Cincinnati Pittsburgh in one of

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Speaker 2: those games, that becomes a wow, Pittsburgh did that again

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Speaker 2: kind of thing. As I was driving in, I did

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Speaker 2: hear a little bit of the conversation about Saquan and

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Speaker 2: the record. So I want to do that before we

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Speaker 2: do a pole question. Why aren't we talking about the

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Speaker 2: fact that Dickerson needed two more games than oj Simpson

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Speaker 2: because the rule had been changed six years prior.

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Speaker 5: Why is it baseball is quick to put asterisk next

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Speaker 5: to everything and the National Football League is what as

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Speaker 5: a record? You know, when I was growing up, they

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Speaker 5: played twelve, fourteen game seasons. Now they's sixteen seventeen games.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna go to eighteen. The benchmark is still one

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Speaker 5: thousand yards. Well, if you do it at twelve games,

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Speaker 5: like Jimmy Brown did it, that's a big deal. You

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Speaker 5: do one thousand yards of seventeen games, you know, not bad,

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Speaker 5: but still is that what jim Brown did?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: It is funny because Troy Aikman made it very clear

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Speaker 2: he was not impressed with Najie Harris's fourth straight thousand

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Speaker 2: yard seasons, even though he's the first guy to do

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Speaker 3: Man, So while.

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Speaker 2: It's not like it's not a grand mark, right, we're

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Speaker 2: talking fewer than sixty rushing yards per game. The fact

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Speaker 2: that you still rush the ball enough and haven't siphoned

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Speaker 2: off a bunch of those to a second or third

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's still something to it, a little bit of longevity

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Speaker 2: Football Sundays, Andy Verman.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great, I will say this.

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Speaker 5: I got one stuff further, not only count the number

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Speaker 5: of games played, but count how many times you carry

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Speaker 5: the football. You know, if Dickerson did it, then an

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Speaker 5: x amount of carries as opposed to Sakuon Barkley did

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Speaker 5: but they don't do it with those records. I don't

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Speaker 5: get it. I mean they talk about how many wins

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Speaker 5: whatever it may be, under the lights, on the road,

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Speaker 5: at home, whatever, lefty quarterback? Right, but why not tell

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Speaker 5: me how many times you rushed the football, how many

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Speaker 2: At that point, Dickerson had thirty four more carries than Barkley, right, right,

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Speaker 2: And I love my guy, Eric Dickerson. He was instrumental

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon here on Fox Sports Radio because he did

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Speaker 2: his famous rant against Jeff Fisher and all things wrong

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Speaker 2: with the Rams, including several dump button messages with us

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Speaker 2: an evening. I prompted him a couple of times that

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Speaker 5: What he said to the report about a week or

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Speaker 5: and the reporters said to Erica, well, you know, records

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Speaker 5: are made to be broken, and Eric Dickerson went crazy,

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Speaker 5: Wait a minute, how many records do you have?

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Speaker 4: No, how many records do you have? I mean, what

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Speaker 4: are you records? That make to be broken. This is

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Speaker 4: my record.

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Speaker 1: I want it.

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Speaker 4: I want to keep it. Good for you.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 4: He's honest.

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Speaker 5: Too many athletes, so many people in general. You want

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Speaker 5: to say what's politically correct? Eric Dickinson, I love you.

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Speaker 5: You said what everybody really wanted you to say. Your record,

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Speaker 5: Keep it.

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Speaker 2: I like the pettiness and I like the fact that

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Speaker 2: he's trying to protect his dollars too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, buddy.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's part of it is the guy's been

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Speaker 2: doing the inscriptions for fifty to seventy five bucks a

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Speaker 2: pop of you know, a single season rushing champ for

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Speaker 2: forty years. That's a lot of money. Why Pete Rose

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame inscriptions.

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Speaker 7: He didn't get to do well one thing annoying ed

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Speaker 7: four a long time. He loves the attention that he's

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Speaker 7: always gotten. He loves me in a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 7: He loves being the record holder.

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Speaker 1: It means a lot.

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Speaker 7: And I think we should appreciate his transparency when it

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Speaker 7: comes to that. Sure, because regardless of how you obtained

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Speaker 7: the record, regardless of whether you want to say, oh

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Speaker 7: what that was fourteen games versus sixteen games versus seventeen games.

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Speaker 7: At the end of the day, the general public doesn't

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Speaker 7: really care. As long as you're the record holder. They

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Speaker 7: always refer to you as the record holder. And if

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Speaker 7: lees at the bottom of it, so be it. But

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Speaker 7: I don't think Vickerson cares, and I can appreciate the

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Speaker 7: fact He's like, no, I want to continue to be

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Speaker 7: the record holder. I don't want anyone else to do it.

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Speaker 7: I know you would like me to be like, no,

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Speaker 7: records are meant to be broken.

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Speaker 1: He's like, no, not at all.

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Speaker 3: It's part of the identity.

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Speaker 2: And I think Saquan even in his comments Andy Bucky

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Speaker 2: was you know, he referenced, Hey, what his dad had

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a family name that is now in the

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Speaker 4: I would say they.

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Speaker 2: Don't care about those. I mean, nobody acknowledges Barry Bonds.

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Speaker 2: He's the outlier in all of this.

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Speaker 5: Right, I want to expanded what Bucky says the public

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Speaker 5: doesn't care. I'll go on stuff further. Bucky say the

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Speaker 5: public doesn't care about records. I say the public doesn't

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Speaker 5: when the NFL played twelve fourteen game seasons. They don't

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Speaker 5: know because when they hear a record they say, oh,

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Speaker 5: that's great. You know, then you have to go I

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Speaker 5: oh wow, I didn't know. I didn't know they played

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Speaker 5: twelve fourteen games when Jimmy Brown was playing and he

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Speaker 4: They don't know.

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Speaker 1: No, they don't know.

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Speaker 7: I mean, anytime you have guys seeing their version of

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Speaker 7: need to know about their level of like sports history

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Speaker 7: dig down deep when it comes to it. That's why

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Speaker 7: it really doesn't matter. I mean, you know, the facts are,

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Speaker 1: One will go back and check the history anamals and.

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Speaker 5: Just I've always believed that people who get the high

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Speaker 5: Of course, say, look, I hear people who are tough

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Speaker 5: of it. They're so called not rushmore of sports or basketball.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, they always leave Wilt Chamberlain's name off.

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Speaker 4: They're wide. They probably never either heard of them or

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Speaker 3: Some of it though, Andy.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's perspective in time and down and distance,

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Speaker 5: The longest time, if you have to ask, you pull

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Speaker 5: ten people on the street, say who's the old time

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Speaker 5: leading scorer in the NBA, they would say MJ.

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Speaker 4: They wouldn't say it was Kareem. It was Kareem for

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Speaker 2: But I mean, look at the all time seasons, like

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Speaker 2: knew those numbers, right. It was like ingrained in US.

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Speaker 2: How many home runs did Willie Mays hit? How many

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Speaker 2: Like we all knew that, Like that was we all

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Speaker 2: knew the back of the baseball card with the I

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Speaker 2: don't know, because baseball hit differently.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was me growing up in Chicago that I

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Speaker 2: I was gonna watch live baseball during the afternoon because

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Speaker 2: it was on WGN. Well, I I'm a little younger

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Speaker 2: than that. My mom loved Ron Santo. Yes, that was

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Speaker 2: always the guy in the house, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: And they screwed that guy because they put him in

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame after he died. But that that's

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Speaker 2: a whole other problem with the induction process. But you

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Speaker 2: go to the all time rushing leader in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League, does anybody know a lot of young guys

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Speaker 2: wouldn't know who it is, and it sure as hell

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Speaker 2: don't know what the yardage is, right right?

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Speaker 3: Emmitt Smith at.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen three point fifty five, the last of which was

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Speaker 2: earned as a member of the Arizona Cardinals. Crazy, right,

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Speaker 2: So and then after that you got Peyton we Go.

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Speaker 2: I mean Frank Gore's third Would anybody know that off

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Speaker 1: No, Frank Gore third, all.

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Speaker 2: Try sixteen thousand career yards. Wow, four point three yards

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Speaker 2: back in the day.

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Speaker 2: But to all of that, Andy, I mean, it is

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Those are your choices, and you gotta make good in

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Speaker 1: Okay? So I'm gonna take the lesser of all evils,

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Speaker 7: I can't deal with Aaron Rodgers and all the conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 1: Just injured, and I don't know if you ever get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're up? I mean what you want to talk

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Speaker 3: Video game ratings come trade evaluations.

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Speaker 4: This is a combination of like who I really don't want?

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Speaker 2: Really, well, that's kind of it, right, and they look

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Speaker 5: Well, that's fine, because you know I talked to Bucky

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Speaker 5: I don't want anything to do with him. I don't

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Speaker 2: Okay, as far as there's my Aaron Dickerson take of

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Speaker 5: Right last night, Russell Wilson finished the game one hundred

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Man, he was so bad. He

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Speaker 2: We've taken the blows and get to week eighteen. Man,

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Speaker 2: it was so bad that you had empty seats in

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Speaker 3: Oh it's too cold, that's why, come on, get some handwarmers.

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Speaker 3: That was one of the dumbest things.

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Speaker 1: I think. It takes off, he takes off and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 5: You guys brought that up because certainly, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: But I mean you can play late, but you still

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Speaker 7: Then his arm fell off, and then you remember very

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Speaker 3: In the UH passing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great, yeah, all all of that stuff matters. Man,

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Speaker 7: Like getting hit because it hurts more. Yeah, it's hard.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to get.

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Speaker 4: Earl marle.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 3: But now we're opening, we're going history last who else

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Speaker 1: This was great? Yeah, you can talk about Johnny United

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Speaker 3: There, George coming over the Margo one.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Sunny Billy Kilmer. You want to throw

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 2: I still dabble in the trading card business, and there's

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Speaker 3: These great moments to commemorate, like just giant plays in baseball.

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Speaker 2: But they did the y a tittle on the knees

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Speaker 2: They did a painting of Norwood's wide right, like they

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Speaker 2: own product now, let alone their history at this point,

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Speaker 2: so much infighting and slap fighting about what they do

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Speaker 2: and talking about the game. But I thought it was

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Speaker 2: interesting go from the Dickerson and the record into the

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Speaker 2: veteran quarterbacks as it you guys would just rather if

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Speaker 2: I gave you a secret option for you would just

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Speaker 2: punt the ball.

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Speaker 3: Is really what it comes down to. Punt check and

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Speaker 3: on onward we move.

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Speaker 2: As we continue, we still have a couple of games

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Speaker 2: to pick, including that big Sunday Night finale.

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Speaker 3: Which will feature the voice of Paul Allen.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get a couple of highlights into the

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Speaker 2: at Bucky Brooks. Find me over at Swollendome. We continue

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Speaker 2: ready to pick a couple of games?

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Speaker 4: Of course?

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Speaker 3: All right, good, So, since we did a little bit

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Speaker 3: of Aaron Rodgers love unless we didn't, Dolphin said, check.

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Speaker 2: How about we start right there with the game that

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Speaker 2: still has meaning Dolphin's still alive. Narrow one point favorites

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Speaker 2: New York. Thirty eight and a half is the total.

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Speaker 2: It will be a Snoop Huntley performance. Here to a

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Speaker 2: tongue of I logan to miss his sixth game here

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Speaker 2: eight Cham has been struggling in the run game. He

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Speaker 2: had that one hundred and twenty yard game against San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise he's under fifty rushing yards in his last five games.

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Speaker 3: Surrounding that effort.

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Speaker 2: Has been active in the passing game though, the scoring

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Speaker 2: offense obviously from Miami sputtering with No two and no consistency.

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill Alen Waddle's been on the shelf all of that.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, we got the New York Football Jets.

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Speaker 2: The put me out of my misery. I'm interviewing Ron

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Speaker 2: Rivera and Rex Ryan just to spite you. Okay, maybe

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Speaker 2: you can learn some things from them along the way.

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Speaker 2: But for Aaron Rodgers going down in a blaze of glory?

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Speaker 2: Can we play the John Bon Jovie song in the

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Speaker 2: background for him? Fellas Andy, what do you think?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what. There's a couple of storylines

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Speaker 5: in this game. Number one, I hope to goodness is

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Speaker 5: the last game I love to see Aaron Rodgers hebby

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Speaker 5: walks into the sunset or his cave.

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Speaker 3: Is it just because of his playing or I mean,

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Speaker 3: because not his attitude.

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Speaker 5: He's a great player, he was a great player, but

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Speaker 5: his attitude and Bucky has made it obvious to me.

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Speaker 5: And I needed to hear from a player, and Bucky

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Speaker 5: told me he's not a good teammate.

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Speaker 3: He's just not Look at what Garrett Wilson is at

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Speaker 3: this point, all right, and.

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Speaker 5: Then then I hear a story about Tua's not playing today,

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Speaker 5: but he didn't come out the other day and said, well,

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Speaker 5: if we make the playoffs, I'll play.

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Speaker 3: Really, you know, he said the doctors wouldn't clear him.

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Speaker 3: He said, he feels fine.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: This is the Dofvels will qualify if they win in

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Speaker 5: the Bronco lose today, but the Miami Dolphins reckon an

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Speaker 5: AFC game six and five. That's one better than Denver,

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Speaker 5: so we'll see what they need to win this game. However,

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Speaker 5: I hope they lose.

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Speaker 3: Carson Wentz is gonna win that game, though, isn't he?

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Speaker 4: Well, well, I'm a Bengal fan. I hope the Dolphins lose.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Fucky, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: It's one of Hey, we're in the last throws of

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Speaker 2: our two seventy two, so we got to celebrate them.

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Speaker 1: All. Yeah, let's go. Let's go to Dolphins.

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Speaker 7: Trying to figure out a way to get it done

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Speaker 7: too is not playing Snoop only did okay and Flashes.

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Speaker 1: Let's just go to Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: There you go, adding to chaos, Chargers said Raiders. Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Raiders, Chargers still remember what kind of hurting they got

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Speaker 2: put on them last year when they traveled to Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas their four point favorites forty one and a half,

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Speaker 2: still playing for the opportunity to go to the planet

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Speaker 2: Houston instead of their other opportunities. There you go, Superman two,

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Speaker 2: old NERD reference for me, another movie you can add

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Speaker 2: to your list of things you should be watching as

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Speaker 2: you go through six and a half for seven is

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Speaker 2: the number on this one as we look at in

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Speaker 2: forty one and a half, So not expecting a scoring fest,

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Speaker 2: but we've seen the Raiders still playing hard. Whether Antonio

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Speaker 2: Pierce gets to stick around or not remains to be seen.

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Speaker 2: But between Abdullah and certainly Brock Bauers has been fantastic

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Speaker 2: this season, winners of two straight. As you go for

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Speaker 2: the Chargers, still the best scoring defense in the game,

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Speaker 2: just giving up seventeen point six points per game.

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Speaker 3: JK.

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Speaker 2: Dobbins was back to run things and win again for

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Speaker 2: the five Seeds, still of great import.

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Speaker 3: Bucke. We start with you do the Raiders rally around

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Speaker 3: Antonio and.

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Speaker 7: A AP has n't played hard, and so APU give

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Speaker 7: him a chance. I just don't know if they have

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Speaker 7: enough talent to do it, so I'm gonna go to

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Speaker 7: other way. I love AP and what he's done for

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Speaker 7: the Raiders. I think they lose to Day though.

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Speaker 5: Mm hm oh okay, I think the question of the

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Speaker 5: game is not going to lose. Kind of keep it close.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you got Aiden O'Connell. I mean, the only

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Speaker 5: thing that got going for them besides AP is a

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Speaker 5: tight end. Brock Bauers. I mean, he's a great player,

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Speaker 5: and it's a shame that a guy like that is

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Speaker 5: on a team like that he's on. But you know,

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Speaker 5: here's the question. Also, you talk about the MVP. We

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Speaker 5: talked about that. Obviously he's a quarterback Award and the

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Speaker 5: conversation is obviously Lamar Jackson, se Kwon Barkley, he probably

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Speaker 5: won't get it. Josh Allen, maybe Joe Burrow maybe we

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Speaker 5: mentioned maybe a conversation wise, he won't get it. Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 5: But I will tell you some other guys that should

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Speaker 5: be in the conversation if you could have a list.

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Speaker 4: JK. Dobbins. JK.

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Speaker 5: Dobbinson's last two games they running back for the Charges.

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Speaker 5: He's average over seven yards a game and thirteen yards

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Speaker 5: of game in the last two games for the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: So I think the Chargers win. They were a better team.

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Speaker 5: They're going to rally around obviously for AP but they're

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Speaker 5: just not that good of a team.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: I will say it is exciting to see JK. Dobbins

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Speaker 2: actually being able to play in meaningful games. Remember he

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Speaker 2: was most to be the next great guy in Baltimore

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Speaker 2: to pair with Lamar Jackson, just couldn't stay healthy. Eventually,

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Speaker 2: from one Harbor Brother to the other. Because that's what

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Speaker 2: happens if the Chargers lose this one and fall down

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Speaker 2: to the sick, hey, we get the Horror Bowl once again.

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Speaker 2: The other is it's it's funny because you got Alt

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Speaker 2: and then you've got Rock Bowers, and then we had

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Speaker 2: the conversation Chargers. They had decided very upfront because it

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Speaker 2: gets me to bring the Jaguars into this that it

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Speaker 2: was Alt or Brian Thomas Junior were the two picks

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Speaker 2: that they were deciding through. But all of that to say,

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Speaker 2: it does get my Woe is Me bears into the

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Speaker 2: mix because Brock Bowers would have looked really good. They're

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Speaker 2: not that Caleb Williams or that offense has ever decided

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Speaker 2: to throw the ball to Cole Comet, who's been very

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Speaker 2: loud and vocal. It reminds me of Greg Olsen actually

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Speaker 2: when he was leaving Chicago and heading to Carolina. A

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Speaker 2: lot of the same kind of complaints about organizational instability

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Speaker 2: and problems.

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Speaker 5: But we'll get what would you wish somebody wanted to

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Speaker 5: go to Chicago? I mean, guys like the Kiss of Death.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's that's part of the conversations. You know,

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Speaker 2: for a long time that was Cincinnati two. So you

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Speaker 2: hold your tongue over there.

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Speaker 5: It should But what they should do, they should do

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Speaker 5: like they doing in soccer. Either the worst team goes

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Speaker 5: down and not wow put them in the Canadian Football League.

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Speaker 4: Relegation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean they've been a train wreck and plenty

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Speaker 2: of content for us fellas, but I mean they're not

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Speaker 2: the worst team and maybe one of the worst organizations.

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Speaker 3: Right, we can put them on the metal stand. That's

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Speaker 3: why I don't think for a minute if I'm.

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Speaker 2: Ben Jonnson, I'm walking anywhere near that job unless I'm

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Speaker 2: assured this guy's out, that guy's out. Ryan Pole's empty

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Speaker 2: suit can still hang in the closet there, but otherwise

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Speaker 2: I'm done, you know, And to.

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Speaker 5: Get rid of the term tank game because Bucky and

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Speaker 5: I went through that before. But okay, we don't think

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Speaker 5: players and to a team's tank because there's too many

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Speaker 5: players right now that want to get there.

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Speaker 3: You just say on the on the field. Yeah right, okay,

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Speaker 3: So what you need to do.

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Speaker 5: The two teams are the two worst records, have a

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Speaker 5: bowl game I call it the Toilet and have a

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Speaker 5: sponsored by sound of Flush or something like that, and

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Speaker 5: the winner gets the draft pick way after the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 5: have the Toilet Bowl.

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Speaker 2: We do have ads for the squatty party that run

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Speaker 2: did he got that little lot of support for you.

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Speaker 1: A little squatty potty.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Game two seventy three, This one's for

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Speaker 3: number one. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think what people would rather watch the Toilet Bowl

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Speaker 4: than the Pro Bowl? I really do.

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Speaker 5: The Pro Bowl is a joke. So the week after

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, have the two worst teams play. I

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Speaker 5: call it the Toilet Bowl, and the winner gets the

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Speaker 5: first draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I immediately want to go, how many people

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Speaker 3: watch the Pro Bowl again? In twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 1: A bunchy.

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Speaker 4: TV's in Vegas are on heavy duty.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: And then we're a desperate lot for our football. Knowing

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Speaker 2: it goes away, there's no question about all right, let's

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Speaker 2: get to another game. Seahawks and rare operation shut down

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Speaker 2: on the side of McVeigh. Seattle six and a half

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Speaker 2: or seven point favorite Geno Smith in line to earn

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Speaker 2: an extra six million dollars in con tracked incentives another win.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty five yards completion percentage, he's got

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Speaker 2: to be over sixty eight zero point five percent, So

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Speaker 2: you know what, this is another movie to put on

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Speaker 2: your list people, rounders, check check check. Zach Charbona should

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Speaker 2: see nine hundred touches as a receiver out of the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I got my touches, I got my completion percentage. But

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Speaker 2: for the Rams, the opportunity to win the third seed

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Speaker 2: and Jimmy Jimmy Garoppolo back under center again, Seattle heavy

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Speaker 2: favorites in this one. This is the curiosity. Though we've

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Speaker 2: watched the turnovers over the course of the year. You've

661
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: got Seattle minus seven in that column, the Rams plus seven.

662
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: And as I heard you guys saying on the way in,

663
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: remember you can't sit everybody, Andy, you go first.

664
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: Okay with Pete Carroll when you need it.

665
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 5: Really, Seahawks may have ten wins to going nowhere, they

666
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: have no chance for the playoffs. Every little Well, Pete

667
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 5: Carroll says he wants to get back in coaching.

668
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: He does.

669
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, let him coast to Jets. Really, why not? He

670
00:29:59,560 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: deserves to.

671
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: He's already done there before.

672
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was the coast the Jets. Well Rich Ryan

673
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 5: did too, So let's let's beat Carroll goes to Jets.

674
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Now.

675
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 5: As far as Gino Smit's concern, I hope he gets

676
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: the bunny the bonus because he'll get himself a new jaw,

677
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 5: the one that was broken. He get a new joke,

678
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 5: get a little plastic surgery, get a good job this time.

679
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: Wow, look at that?

680
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, he went there. I know I did.

681
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: Seattle's gonna win this one half w ten commit ten

682
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 5: wins and not going to the playoffs.

683
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: Something's wrong with that picture.

684
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: Time. Something's wrong with that picture for sure.

685
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: Several years ago, remember when that losing record and went

686
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: to the playoffs.

687
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: That's right, that's the way that the cookie crumbles. As

688
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: they said, nuts, Uh.

689
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Let's go rams ram it all day, yeah, rams all night.

690
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: Did you ever hear the Elton John version did El

691
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: John did a version hanging out with Ryan Seacrest when

692
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: the Rams were coming to l A.

693
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, brilliant, nice and don't know how to rabbit

694
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: with a great piano backing. It was great.

695
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: Really, Ryan Seacress was positively bewildered. I used to see

696
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: him sleeping in his room over here when he was

697
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: doing his fourteen jobs back in the day when he came.

698
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: He well, but now he's on a private jet and

699
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: they built a studio that's on the jets, so he

700
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: doesn't he doesn't need to, you know, come hang down

701
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: the hallway by me, keep an eye on.

702
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 5: I will say this like I kind of like feeling

703
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 5: Wheel of Fortune. I think he's doing a pretty good

704
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 5: job and Wheel of Fortune, you know, I kind of

705
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 5: tune in.

706
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of liked acid tongue pat Sayjack in

707
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: the final years.

708
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: You know what, he got really salty and angry.

709
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: It was great because he's an old guy, old people.

710
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: He's a cup fan. What do you want?

711
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 8: Yeah?

712
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 5: But still, but Ryan's secret relate to the younger people.

713
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 5: I think he's more it's more social, that's what he's

714
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 5: more social, you know.

715
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: I like him.

716
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: He's say Jack Hat just had it with the Acidine

717
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: guesses and bad like, this game's been on for forty years,

718
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: why aren't we start? Actually, you know what, though, guys,

719
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: he's kind of like a lot of a lot of

720
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: us when we watch coaches and players. How come we

721
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: can't get the final two minutes right even if we've

722
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: been coaching for two decades.

723
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: I might was ironic. It is crazy how that works, right,

724
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: can't get to coaching right?

725
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: Well, even those veteran guys going back to Russ and

726
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: not realizing, hey, I can't get to that Sode line.

727
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: It looks right there, not quite so close. That's Bucky

728
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: Brooks at Bucky Brooks where you find him. You find

729
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: Andy at Andy Furman FSR, Bucky, NFL dot Com, NFL Network,

730
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: Foxsports dot Com, Andy writing columns, doing radio spots, promoting

731
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: it all in the world of X as I do

732
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: shamelessly at Swollen Dome as well, and at Mike Harmon

733
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: on Blue Sky, which eventually I will actually post stuff there.

734
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: So load it up.

735
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great here in twenty twenty five. We

736
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: got one more game to go before we wrap up

737
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: this hour, and we'll do it next with a story

738
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: about how this game comes together with one team calling

739
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: dirty pool and complaining to the league office. We'll tell

740
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: you what that's about next year on Fox.

741
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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

742
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

743
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

744
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 6: listen live. Welcome back in Fox Sport.

745
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: It's a radio Fox Football Sunday Live from the tyrac

746
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: dot com studios. Mike Harmen alongside Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman.

747
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: As we rolled through here on a beautiful morning. It'st

748
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Speaker 2: week eighteen of the National Football League season divisional games.

749
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: I'll spare you my normal traditional rant about the scheduling, because,

750
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: let's face it, a lot of these divisional matchups, you know,

751
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: which are supposed to be really really important, don't mean

752
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: a damn thing here in week eighteen, you know, like

753
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: the Bears and Packers. Normally, I said to Marcus, you know,

754
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: he gets ready to leave us here, fellas, I said,

755
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: you get to watch the Bears of the Packers. That

756
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: He just stared blankly through me. If I could read

757
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: his mind in that moment, I think he now hates me.

758
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: On a whole other level.

759
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: All right, we got one more game, and this one

760
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: actually has grand meaning Viking, said Lias.

761
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: All right, So the Lions three point favorites at home

762
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: fifty six and a half the total of the last

763
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: I saw it had actually gotten up to fifty eight

764
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: and a half on Thursday, and the story that I

765
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: teas fellas one of the great moments. Minnesota ownership nineteen

766
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: hundred tickets bought two million dollars spent and a message

767
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: to their season ticket holders to sell them below the

768
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: cost so that they could pack Viking fans into Detroit.

769
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: Detroit said hey, hey, not so fast, and the league

770
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: said beat it now. They'll probably be a rule change

771
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 2: after this, but there'll be a lot of folks dressed

772
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: like Ragnar or Hagar the Horrible tonight in Detroit.

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00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: There you go.

774
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: You want to talk about history, Look what I did

775
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: for you right there, Andy Furman, get very much.

776
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: Whatever percentage got it, got it.

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00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 5: How many Lunatics are driving from Minneapolis to Detroit anyway?

778
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: I don't know what the distance might be, but I

779
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 5: wouldn't do it, really, I mean, would you?

780
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

781
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 4: I mean you would for this.

782
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: Game, for the number one seed, for all the males

783
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: for all of this to potentially make Detroit people cry

784
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: in their beers after getting chested for two years.

785
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 9: Yeah you do, really?

786
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, see them, see them crying.

787
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: Look at you haters.

788
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: I can't believe.

789
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: No, no, a lot of this is hate watching Bucky.

790
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 3: We know this isn't it. Yeah, okay, flight, Well.

791
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: The flight is going to be one yeah, one hour.

792
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: It's the one to two.

793
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 5: Hour flight flying from Minneapolis to Detroit. They got to

794
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 5: rent the car to go to the ball game. Come on, okay,

795
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 5: so red a car, thirty bucks a day, and then

796
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 5: a hotel. You gotta spend the hotel.

797
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're driving back. You just be a little late

798
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: for work. Let's go your boss stand.

799
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

800
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. It's a chance. It's a chance to

801
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: win it.

802
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 7: More importantly, it's a chance to do the Gladiator double

803
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 7: thumbs down.

804
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a.

805
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 5: Chance to tell people you were there. You know, that's

806
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 5: the name of the get. People are crazy. They said, oh,

807
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 5: I was at the game.

808
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 4: I was at the game.

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00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 5: You know what. I remember there was a game years

810
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 5: ago in Cincinnati. Forgot what it was. It was a

811
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 5: rain delay. I think it was a no hitter. Tom

812
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 5: Brownie may he rest in peace. He puts to no

813
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 5: hither And it was like a rain delay, and like

814
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 5: maybe there were like two thousand people there, but like

815
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 5: years after the game, everybody and their mother said they

816
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 5: were there. That's one of those people to say they're there,

817
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: and then that's what's gonna happen tonight in Detroit, I

818
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 5: think it's okay. And for the lead to say, uh uh, hey,

819
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 5: it's all about the green Backs, it's all about the

820
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 5: guelt Sure, they'll take the money, why not buy it?

821
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: Great idea good ownership. Really in Minneapolis, well, I mean.

822
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: The tickets were already sold. Everybody got their part.

823
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: But then if you went to a certain league partner

824
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: on the secondary market, they get a second bite at

825
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 2: the apple.

826
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 5: Well we'll see. I'll be watching. I'll see how many

827
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 5: people are run. But Viking fans.

828
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: I just say this though, Andy, I mean, if you,

829
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: if you could do that for your season ticket holders

830
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: and given the option, because let's face it, you do

831
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: have a percentage of those season ticket holders in every

832
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: marketplace that cost is no object.

833
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: Can we talk about it? The lamentation of how many

834
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: games can I go to?

835
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: With the expanded college football playoffs, it's like, all right,

836
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: pick one, shut up or pay for it, I mean

837
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: one or the other, or sitting watching on a big TV.

838
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: Well about that.

839
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 5: I think it's crazy anyway, because whoever wins this game

840
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 5: was the ANFC North Division at home field advantage, Okay,

841
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 5: and the loser becomes a wildcard.

842
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 4: Sure, there's something wrong there.

843
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 5: I mean, really, fourteen wins in a wildcard there's something

844
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 5: crazy there it is, But again, win.

845
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: That's all you gotta do is win.

846
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: Right, It's an aberration right where we have this kind

847
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: of dominance because you also have look what the Packers

848
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: were able to do over the course of the year,

849
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: and you know, you don't get to choose the schedule

850
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: as you roll through, right, if you take care of

851
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: your division work and they like the Lions and then

852
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: you roll through, there you go even with no defense

853
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 2: worse statistically, in a manner matter of it is, they're

854
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: still tied over the course of the NFL season at

855
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: twenty point eight points per game allowed, ted for eighth

856
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: in terms of total defense, scoring thirty three a game.

857
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: Fellas, he likes the Lions. What do you think, Budgers.

858
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going with the Vikings. Flat the Vikings have

859
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 7: been underrated the entire time this season. They haven't got

860
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 7: the respect that they deserve. Sam Donald's been like the

861
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 7: feel good story. People talk about what eleven twelve games

862
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 7: where he has a passer rate in over one hundred.

863
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 7: That's not the story to me. The story to me

864
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 7: is Brian Floyd's and how he heats of Jared Goff.

865
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 7: You have to understand when you look at the history

866
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 7: of Brian Floyd's versus Jared Goff, he has thrown some

867
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 7: shutouts against Jered Goff.

868
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Speaker 1: I think we see another one.

869
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 7: We see golf struggle a little bit against the crazy,

870
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 7: wacky defense that the Minnesota.

871
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: Vikings do because they gonna they gonna heat you.

872
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 7: Up, They're gonna bring pressure on fifty percent of the

873
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 7: downs early. I think it's a hard game for Detroit

874
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 7: look for the Vikings to do it. And I told

875
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 7: you double thumbs down wow, Kevin O'Connell to Dan Campbell

876
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 7: at the end of the game.

877
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: Kennedy's thumbs down in his face.

878
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: So you're saying he's doing more of a Brett Bee

879
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Speaker 2: Lama on steroids kind of situation as to what he did.

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Speaker 4: When next week, when I see you but I'm gonna

881
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Speaker 4: give you a thumb in your face.

882
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: Well, how much does the Lions effort against San Francisco

883
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: for inform this one a little bit because that was

884
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: a battle. Yeah, more than they thought. And lastly, guys

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Speaker 2: each really quickly. Ben Johnson did the stumble bum to

886
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: mock the Bears. What does he do to Brian Flores?

887
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: Oh, he has to do something.

888
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 3: He got something and a sewell carry or something again,

889
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Speaker 3: it might.

890
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: Be something like this, something big.

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Speaker 3: Here you go and he thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate ing Andy Furman, FSR Bucky and I continue next

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Speaker 2: do Fox. Hey, welcome in another hour, final week of

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Speaker 2: the regular season, Week eighteen underway, two games in the books.

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Speaker 2: get his perspective on tonight's game in a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and our guy Shay making us sound so pretty this

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Speaker 2: fine morning. It was his birthday the other day. We've

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Speaker 2: celebrated that at Nausium. He gets more glug when it's

908
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: all said and done, but with me as always my guy.

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks five years in the league, working over with

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars coach mentor columnist, Fox Sports.

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Speaker 3: Dot com, NFL dot com.

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Speaker 2: He's probably got three or four other books in the fire.

913
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: He's got his own letterbox campaign of all the movies

914
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: he sees, because we did the Golden Globes as bottom

915
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: barrel betting earlier, and I've actually seen about half of

916
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: those that that shape put up for you guys.

917
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: We go to the movies a lot, my daughters and I.

918
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: That's one of our things together. So there you go.

919
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: Although I have had a number of people say Flow

920
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 2: is their favorite movie of the year about the cat,

921
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 2: so there you go. I did go see a cool

922
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: new uh animated Lord of the Rings movie in the

923
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Speaker 2: theater the other day.

924
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: Oh it's pretty cool.

925
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: That's a lot of stuff you're over there seeing it.

926
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: But I had a couple of days off. You know,

927
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: you got to take care of business. We all lean

928
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Speaker 2: into some stuff. I watched a bunch of holiday movies,

929
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: so I'll have some rankings of holiday movies, including that

930
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Speaker 2: Chiefs thing.

931
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Speaker 1: And Die Diehard a holiday movie, of course.

932
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 2: So as Batman returns, it's Christmas Time with Max, Shrek

933
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: and the Penguin. I'm with you getting after it, you know,

934
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: I mean all of those things. I celebrate the holidays

935
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: because they tell me after today, I kind of got

936
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: to shut up about it. We've already stopped playing the

937
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: holiday music or whatever. It was like, you know, Elvis

938
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: saying about why can't every day be like Christmas? For

939
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: the most parts, people are in a better mood for

940
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: those weeks.

941
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a Pulley, but mostly.

942
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: The holiday cups are gone from my favorite little coffee spot.

943
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: It's terrible.

944
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: Maybe you can find them on discount though, as you

945
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: go through Hey, speaking of getting something at a discount.

946
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, coming off of last night's performance A Boy

947
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: that was a tough watch at times on both sides. Right,

948
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: you saw the openings drive and touchdown from the bank,

949
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, here we go, let's get a little

950
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: bit nuts, you know, like Michael Keaton said in the

951
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine Classic Batman, you want to get nuts,

952
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: Let's get nuts. But we have a situation where by

953
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase finds the end zone, T Higgins would leave

954
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: with the ankle, which is a high ankle sprain, saying,

955
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: you know, gutting it out as best he could. You

956
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: were missing your top running back, so Khalil Herbert presst

957
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: into action. But it really comes down to those final minutes.

958
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: Very unlikely still in that game, coming off of the

959
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: punt that goes off a foot and recovered, sliding out

960
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: of bounds, all of those things to where you still

961
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: have a chance. George Pickens, Friarmuth, drop balls left and

962
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: right and problems and then Russ in the first half

963
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 2: Bucky was terrible, and then he bookended that with two

964
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: of the most inexplicable minutes of football by a veteran

965
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: quarterback that I think we've seen. It's not that the

966
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: throws are off, it's just the decision making that was

967
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: supposed to be why you acquired him.

968
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is tough, right, And it's tough because I

969
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 7: celebrated Russell Wilson coming on board and they in the

970
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 7: midst of it, right, and everybody goes through these ups

971
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 7: and downs, and part of the roller coaster ride that

972
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 7: the season is. It's unfortunate for the Stellers. They're doing

973
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 7: it at the worst time, right, The worst time for

974
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 7: them is heading into the postseason, head into the playoffs.

975
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 7: And that's and for Russell, Uh, you just wonder, like,

976
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 7: for someone who and I'm a big Russell fan, how

977
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 7: can he make these mistakes right now? Because that is

978
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 7: what he was supposed to be doing for justin fields

979
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 7: like that was part of the reason for making sure

980
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 7: that he was a quarterback as opposed to fields. They

981
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 7: were going to get the benefit of the winning pedigree,

982
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl experience, the playmaking, the smarts, the toughness,

983
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 7: all of that hasn't necessarily give him that.

984
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: But I will say this, Russell was.

985
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 7: Impacted by the drop seas sure, George Pickens three drops,

986
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 7: Friarmouth gets hand delivered a dime at the end of

987
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 7: the game.

988
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: Drops.

989
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the best fastball that Russell could muster up.

990
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 7: He threw it right there, right through the wickets.

991
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: Now at that point he didn't have any time left,

992
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: so it really wouldn't have mattered maybe, but.

993
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, I do wonder if they would had enough

994
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 7: time to like get it, spike it or whatever, at

995
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 7: least had a chance theater. Yeah, yeah, but so that

996
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 7: but yeah, you look, Russ can't take the sass that

997
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 7: he took, and he can't make the decision that he

998
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 7: made to run instead of just throw it out.

999
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: Of bounds, throw it out of bounds to fight another.

1000
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: Day because he also got drilled. So in addition to

1001
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: losing time off the clock, you can't tell me he

1002
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: wasn't smart. And going back to that huddle after that

1003
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: run where he got his world rocked. I mean, he

1004
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: did have that deep ball to George Pickens. That was

1005
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: one of those you started to get out of your seat.

1006
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: You know that Leo Leonardo DiCaprio meme, you know from

1007
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: Once upon a Time in Hollywood where he starts to

1008
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: stand up.

1009
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: He's smoking. He's like, oh ah, yeah, that's it.

1010
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: That that was saying, Oh the deep ball there, it

1011
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: is because the defender was ten yards behind Pickens and

1012
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: it fell harmlessly to the ground. But it's like, I

1013
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: don't think he would have caught it even if he

1014
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 2: got a hand on it. The way he was playing

1015
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: yesterday anyway, Uh so, you know, all the infighting there

1016
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: is really the other part of this story is that

1017
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: it was jest dating right, four weeks, loss of four straight,

1018
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: the struggles that we've seen, and then the back and forth.

1019
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: Tomlin pulls no punches in his post game. I thought

1020
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: his halftime talk was kind of interesting, the comments he

1021
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: had the lease assaulters because he was getting killed for

1022
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: the decisions in short yardage. Russ couldn't get it, and

1023
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: then they gave it to Warren and they get stopped. Ultimately,

1024
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: Cincinnati goes down and gets a field goal. He goes,

1025
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: if we can't get a yard we deserve to lose

1026
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: or we don't deserve to win, which is true, I

1027
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: guess in grand fashion, but it's still the all right,

1028
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: explain the Arthur Smith play call.

1029
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: To go to the jail, and Warren.

1030
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 7: Though, yeah, I don't, man, we have too much time

1031
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 7: on our hands as coaches, right, too much, too much time,

1032
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 7: too much tinkering.

1033
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, you know this would be kind of cute.

1034
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: Let's do this instead of like the main thing. The

1035
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: main thing. It's hard and Daylan Warren has done some

1036
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: things for them. You just don't think he goes to him,

1037
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, in those moments.

1038
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, as much as Najie Harra's got dismissed in the

1039
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: telecast because we talked about it and alluded to it

1040
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: a little bit last hour when we talked to a

1041
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: thousand yard rushers And whether that really has any meaning,

1042
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you do it four years in

1043
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: a row, you're talking about some longevity, some durability to

1044
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: a degree in an age where we split those carries

1045
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: up a bunch and we've got quarterbacks that are running

1046
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: a ton.

1047
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1048
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: I don't dismiss it categorically. I know it doesn't have

1049
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: the same juice that it had when I was a

1050
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: young kid pulling those thousand yard rushing or receiving cards

1051
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: out of a pack of tops football. But it's the

1052
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: same kind of idea.

1053
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't.

1054
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 7: And I think when people do to math, it's like

1055
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 7: sixty something yards a game, seventy gam mean, it's not

1056
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 7: a lot, but it's the consistency of the moment, and

1057
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 7: it just sounds so good when you say like a thousand,

1058
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 7: you know, a thousand round number. Yeah, nice, nice, nice

1059
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 7: round number. We understood it, We grew up at a

1060
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 7: time with that was big for running backs. And even

1061
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 7: though it's not the same, I can't let it go.

1062
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: I just can't let it go. And I can't I

1063
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: can't say that a is it's no good if you

1064
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: don't get it anymore.

1065
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,479
Speaker 3: But I think Bucky to that point, and this maybe

1066
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: it's my old head thinking and my love of three

1067
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 3: yards and a cloud of dust, the fierce defense of

1068
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: Matt Suey blocking for Walter Payton and all of those

1069
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 3: things back in the day, and him lowering his head

1070
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: which he'd be penalized and find like nobody's business today

1071
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: in the National Football League.

1072
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: But that's not where we're at. We only had fourteen

1073
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: guys coming into today that hit a thousand yards. Yeah, right,

1074
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: Top ten still makes you leave, Yes, I mean you're

1075
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: looking at the number nine runner is Chewba Hubbard. He's

1076
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: not gonna play at eleven ninety four, and then James

1077
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: Connor's ninth at just under eleven hundred yards. Mean, and

1078
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: if running the football and controlling the line of scrimmage

1079
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 2: is what I've been, It's been preached to me forever.

1080
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: You got to win in the trenches, and I believe

1081
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: that firmly. You'll never convince me otherwise. A guy rushing

1082
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: for a thousand yards still has value, still has meaning.

1083
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think it still has value.

1084
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: You still want to.

1085
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 7: Respect and appreciate people that have the consistency, because that's

1086
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 7: that's also what it speaks to, right, It.

1087
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: Speaks to your ability to show up each and every

1088
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: week for your team. And if you get that, you

1089
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: want people to be rewarded for that. So I can

1090
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: I can respect that part of it.

1091
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 7: And look, man, it's not what it was yester year,

1092
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 7: but it certainly is accomplishment that we should celebrate and appreciate.

1093
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Speaker 2: It gets dismissed out of hand, and and maybe maybe

1094
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: too easily, and maybe I'm just an old head that

1095
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: can't let it go. We were talking about some of

1096
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: the classic Elder Statesmen still playing football.

1097
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Speaker 3: Last hour.

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00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: You can get the bod. It'll go up after the

1099
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: show's over. Wherever you get your fine podcast, download it,

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00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: give it five stars, rate it, We'll love you forever.

1101
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: You want to give the extra early twenty twenty five gifts,

1102
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: make sure to evangelize your friends and family. We'll definitely

1103
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: appreciate it. But it's the uncomfortable conversation that we seem

1104
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: to have every year, and it's the Steelers. And this

1105
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: goes to I guess the lunatic fringe as they've been described,

1106
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: you know, related to Ryan Day and other folks. But

1107
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: it comes back to Mike Domalin and the Steelers again.

1108
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no I have no confidence that they

1109
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: go and win a playoff game, no matter who they play.

1110
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: So you know, how long do we do?

1111
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 2: We just keep resetting it to where it's the same

1112
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: same old story. Hey, a nice story. For a couple

1113
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: of weeks, they win eight or nine games and then

1114
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: they go home unceremoniously. Yeah, oh this is crazy and

1115
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: I love Mike t right, But what we got that's

1116
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: crazy there?

1117
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: Bucky, Yeah, no, is it is crazy.

1118
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 7: It's oh can Dorsey getting fired before the final game.

1119
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 7: I just saw I come across like wow, oh okay.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

1121
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 3: I just like that, that excited utterance, like, what do

1122
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: we got?

1123
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? So that that's bananas.

1124
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 7: Here here's what I say about Mike Tomlin, because there

1125
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 7: is a bit of a love hate relationship with Mike

1126
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 7: Tomlin in Pittsburgh. Because you have people that sit on

1127
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 7: the side of the fence, like, look at the consistency,

1128
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 7: the whatever, no losing seasons, the number of playoff appearances

1129
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 7: in those things. And then you have the guys who

1130
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 7: said he's lost his last five playoff games in a row.

1131
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 7: He's three and eight, gosh like, after the fantastic start

1132
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 7: that he had, and they just I won't say they underachieved,

1133
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 7: they're just kind of stuck. Right, You're not quite great,

1134
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 7: You're you're good, but how how often you can be

1135
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,479
Speaker 7: satisfied with being good? It's very similar. And we've used

1136
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 7: this team a lot. It's the Atlanta Braves thing when

1137
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 7: we grew up in the nineties. Sure the Braves win

1138
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 7: the division all the time, but they have one World

1139
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 7: Series title to show for all of their consistency and

1140
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 7: their greatness. And if you're a fan, is that a disappointment?

1141
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 7: Are you happy always being in the conversation?

1142
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: I mean out here in Los Angeles put the dodge

1143
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: with it, right, same thing before last year's title and

1144
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: now expectations of so many more, but same idea. Right,

1145
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 2: you dominate, you got Hall of famers, you got all

1146
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: of these big things, and what do you got to

1147
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: show for it? Miami's got two, right, the Marlins went

1148
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: their two World Series and then divest of everything. So yeah,

1149
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: it's just that curiosity of what's going to make you happy. Right,

1150
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: would you rather have expectations that get dashed or just

1151
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 2: know you're playing meaningful football in December?

1152
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 7: Take I try and take a realistic view, like, you

1153
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 7: can't win it all the time, so you always want

1154
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 7: to be in the conversation.

1155
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: But in being in the conversation, you're gonna deal with

1156
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: a lot of heartbreak. Sure, you know if you're always

1157
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: in it, but you never it's rare that you win it.

1158
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 7: It's a lot of heartbreak associating that because you always think, man,

1159
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 7: if we could have just if we just do this,

1160
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 7: if we just do that. The Stealers, they aren't going

1161
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 7: to fire Mike Tommin because he just I think he

1162
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 7: just signed an extension. He has some more years on

1163
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 7: the thing and there despite to the contract. There are

1164
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 7: a lot of people that would take that, right. There

1165
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 7: are a lot of bad teams that would take not

1166
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 7: having losing seasons. Uh no, being in the conversation like, hey,

1167
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 7: you know what, he might not we might not win

1168
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 7: it all, but we at least are.

1169
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: Always going to be in the thing.

1170
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 7: There's something too that where stillers have higher expectations, their

1171
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 7: standards are different.

1172
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old rule thumb of like what am I

1173
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: going into the marketplace and finding right? Because I mean,

1174
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: look what the Jets are doing right now, and Rex

1175
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 2: Robin and Rob.

1176
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: Rivera like you don't like to you don't like to recycle?

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00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm entertained by watching it because Smith with me,

1178
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, this is great.

1179
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 6: Oh.

1180
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 7: I can only imagine what he's saying. And hey, guys,

1181
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 7: I think I think we down to our final two.

1182
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 7: I think Ron Rivera they're there. They're the final list

1183
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 7: for the jobs. Get excited, Jets fans. You know what's

1184
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 7: coming to our town.

1185
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if nothing else, I mean, like we

1186
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: talk about the Steelers, we have to talk about the

1187
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: Rooney rules. So that's satisfied, So that part of the

1188
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: process as we go in is done. Uh. He also

1189
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: was in an organization that went through a lot of change.

1190
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a learning or two, uh that you can

1191
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: glean from those conversations. So I don't just miss it

1192
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 2: off hand, like you know, just completely. I wouldn't hire him,

1193
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: but i'd certainly listen to him. Likewise, Rex, come on

1194
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: in and entertain me for a while. Entertained old brick

1195
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: over here, go play some video games with the Steelers.

1196
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: What do you do with Russell Wilson? Is he coming back?

1197
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: So here's where it goes? Or right? Right?

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00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 7: So you made the move for Russell Wilson thinking that

1199
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 7: you're betting on the floor, right, higher floor than Justin Fields.

1200
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 7: But now there's a part of me that's like, man

1201
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 7: would have been better if they just kept trudging along

1202
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 7: with Justin Fields, because at least Justin Fields gives you

1203
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 7: some juice with the legs, you know, like if if

1204
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 7: he's not Russell, it's not gonna be able to throw

1205
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 7: it great, I don't get to running.

1206
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1207
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 7: So I think you probably bring him back because who

1208
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 7: else is gonna want him? I think it's probably easy

1209
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 7: for you to make that happen.

1210
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just now you're not excited about it.

1211
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: See, I just took all the wind out of your sails.

1212
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: You just got I got sad Bucky Brooks. There was

1213
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 2: a sign sad Bucky Brooks.

1214
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're just like, I don't know what are

1215
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: we gonna do that?

1216
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: But just remember how happy everybody was with the moon

1217
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: Ball with him and George Pickens, and now they hated.

1218
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: It was great and now they hate each other.

1219
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: It was great too, it wasn't How much would you

1220
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: give pickens performance of uh well, lack of effort, yesterd Man, he.

1221
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: Doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't give it.

1222
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 7: And there there's something there's something, man, there's something in

1223
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 7: the water down there that doesn't.

1224
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: Allow wide receivers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they just they just

1225
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: have some weirdo stuff.

1226
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: Some salty stuff. Yeah.

1227
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: Eventually Tom Lit'll write a book about it all. It'll

1228
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: be the most fascinating thing that we then turn into

1229
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: a TV movie at Bucky Brooks where you find him

1230
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 2: on Twitter, find me over at Swollendme. You mentioned it before,

1231
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: Brown's making some noise after getting thumped by the Ravens yesterday.

1232
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: Is that the end of the changes. We'll talk about

1233
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: it and look it back into Week eighteen coming up

1234
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: next year. On Fox Sports Radio, Hey, welcome back in

1235
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,120
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1236
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,000
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00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,480
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1244
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: They'll talk some college football.

1245
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: Playoffs, bowl season Week eighteen, some reviews of good, bad Ugly,

1246
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: some tales from Vegas from Bill. All of that coming

1247
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: up here in about thirty five minutes as Bucky and

1248
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: I sign off today. Bucky, you had the excited utterance

1249
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: over the Browns and the oustring of their offensive line

1250
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: coach and coordinator Ken Dorsey. He's fired after one year, Stefanski.

1251
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: We heard rumors earlier this year. Speculation got of maybe

1252
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 2: the lunatic fringe, maybe not the raining coach the year

1253
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: potentially getting ousted as well. Look, five quarterbacks last year,

1254
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: four quarterbacks this year. You're still beholden to the contract

1255
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: you gave to Shaun Watson. You're gonna blame Ken.

1256
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: Dorsey for that.

1257
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a tough one.

1258
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: You're not looking at.

1259
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: Your roster and what you've assembled the fact that Nick

1260
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: Chubb was available for what about seven games where he

1261
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: was one hundred percent.

1262
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 7: Man, it's so crazy when you think about it, right,

1263
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 7: And it's so crazy like when you like when we

1264
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 7: go to Cleveland, we think about the number of people

1265
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 7: that are gonna lose their job because Deshaun Watson doesn't

1266
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 7: work out for them.

1267
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be bananas, right.

1268
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 7: Ken Dorsey's is brought over to upgrade this offense, to

1269
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 7: simplify the offense and make it where the quarterback can thrive,

1270
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 7: and no one's been able to do it. The shot

1271
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 7: wasn't has been the same player since we last saw

1272
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 7: him in Houston.

1273
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 3: Well before he did the operation shutdown.

1274
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: For a year's that's it.

1275
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 7: He has not been the same. And look, they can

1276
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 7: recycle coaches or whatever. At the end of the day, man,

1277
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 7: it's the player. It's the player, the players keeping him

1278
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 7: from doing what they need to do.

1279
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jerome Ford five point four yards per carry?

1280
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: Great?

1281
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: You know he with Nick Chubb over the course of

1282
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: the year, they ran pretty well. I mean Chubb obviously

1283
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 2: diminished a bit coming off the injury. He was fewer

1284
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: than four yards per carry. Jerry Judy had himself a

1285
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: nice little run, probably made himself on some money and

1286
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: a future in the league. He's over twelve hundred yards

1287
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: on the year, had a quiet game, six for sixty two.

1288
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, and you're running out Bailey's happy, and it

1289
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: all goes to you should have matched whatever Indianapolis wanted

1290
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: to give Joe Flaco.

1291
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 7: I mean, that's kind of it, right, But it didn't

1292
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 7: go around because what it did is it look it

1293
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 7: threadned the quarterback. Yeah, it threadned Wason having him in

1294
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 7: the building because he out played Watson in that offense.

1295
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: At some point, man, they're gonna have to have a

1296
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: hard look.

1297
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 7: They have to make a hard decision and determined if

1298
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 7: he's going to do, if he's the guy or not.

1299
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 7: And there's nothing that he has done suggests that he

1300
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 7: is the guy.

1301
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: You know, completed sixty three percent of his pass attempts

1302
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: this year, five point three yards average, five touchdowns, three

1303
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: interceptions in seven games before he was shut down. You're

1304
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: just watching it is he's not even available to be bad,

1305
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: and he's terrible when he's on the field, and then

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01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: most of the time you can't even get an evaluation

1307
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: because he's off it and you're so hamstruck.

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01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 7: Blaming and you blame you, blaming it on everybody else.

1309
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 7: And what it also does is when you do that, right,

1310
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 7: the entire team is looking at how you treat him.

1311
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: Well, look at Miles Garrett, everybody else, Yeah, right.

1312
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: Look at Miles Garrett and all his public quotes about well,

1313
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: we got to evaluate, we got to see what's going on,

1314
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: and you know, he can only take care of what

1315
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: he does on the defensive side. And they were plucky, right,

1316
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: they show showed some heart yesterday against Baltimore early, just

1317
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: overmatched when it's all said and done. But you've got

1318
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: a guy who's widely regarded as one of the best

1319
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,479
Speaker 2: defensive players we've seen in what the last twenty five years,

1320
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: and he's just raising his hands, going, I don't even

1321
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: know what to do anymore. It's a bad spot to

1322
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: be in.

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Speaker 3: It is a very vast fut And if Stefanski be

1324
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: let go, like say, he walks the plank out of

1325
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 3: this coaching cycle, like, what are you getting to come

1326
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 3: in and replace him?

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Speaker 7: They all wants that job and you've seen them, Yeah,

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01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 7: you've seen them cycle through so many different guys. It's

1329
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 7: gonna be a tough thing. He's gonna have to take

1330
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 7: it back and just say, you know what, I'm putting

1331
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 7: it on me. I'm putting it on me. I'm gonna

1332
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 7: go back to being the play call it. I try

1333
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 7: to do it. I tried to hand it off. You

1334
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 7: know who's the best person to call the offense?

1335
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: Me?

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01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 7: If we're playing the video game, I can't hover over

1337
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 7: your shoulder Harmon to say, hey man, won't you call

1338
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:02,919
Speaker 7: this player?

1339
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: Whatever? You know what I'm gonna do.

1340
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take the sticks and I'm gonna figure out

1341
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 7: how to get it done. That's what Kevin Stefanski needs

1342
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Speaker 7: to do.

1343
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: He's got the headset, go back in head coach hanging

1344
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: out in the coach's box up top.

1345
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 3: How about that a whole other thing.

1346
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: He's got a proxy, a robot with a an iPad

1347
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: standing in for him on the sideline.

1348
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Speaker 3: He's Bucky Brooks at Buggy.

1349
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Speaker 2: Brooks where you find him RIDOMANFL dot com, Foxsports dot

1350
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,479
Speaker 2: Com and every Sunday morning here with us on Fox

1351
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Andy Furman and Andy Furman FSRS where you

1352
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: find him coming up next, because we've got a guy

1353
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: he covers the Lions extensively proud of Detroit. Our guy

1354
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: Chris Purfett will tag him in as we talk about

1355
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 2: the big Sunday night game. But first we go over

1356
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Speaker 2: to the update desk. A man who's got his hair

1357
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: finally to him. He's shaved. He's ready for a big

1358
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: week eighteen. As the Chargers head over to Las Vegas. Yeah,

1359
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: he'll be on it as they try to go to

1360
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: the planet Houston instead of setting up another Hord Bowl.

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 3: It's Isaac Low and gron who day.

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Speaker 9: How about them Bengals My new favorite team.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Way to go guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait a.

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Speaker 9: Minute, I'm supposed to be objective. Oops. Ah, Yes, we

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 9: will get to we will get to the ramifications, all

1368
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 9: the ramifications of the Bengals victory. Where we have developing

1369
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 9: news in the NFL already This morning has multiple outlets

1370
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 9: reported that the Cleveland Browns have fired offensive coordinator Ken

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01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 9: Dorsey after one season. Browns losing at Baltimore yesterday thirty

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Speaker 9: five to ten to finish the year three and fourteen. Indeed,

1373
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 9: on the field on Saturday night, the Cincinnati Bengals did

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01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 9: stay alive with a nineteen seventeen win at Pittsburgh the Bengals,

1375
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Speaker 9: who closed the regular season on a five game winning streak,

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01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 9: can make the playoffs if the Broncos and Dolphins both

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01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 9: lose today. The Steelers lost meanwhile, means that the Chargers

1378
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 9: can clinch the five seed with a win today at

1379
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 9: Las Vegas. The Steelers, who closed the regular season on

1380
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Speaker 9: a four game losing streak, would then finish as the

1381
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 9: six seed and visit Baltimore in the wildcard round. Finally fellows.

1382
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 9: The Kansas City Chiefs charter flight yesterday to Denver for

1383
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 9: today's game against the Denver Broncos was delayed four hours

1384
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 9: when an ice storm shut down Kansas City International Airport.

1385
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 9: Despite the four hour delay, Chiefs arrived in Denver at

1386
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 9: a pretty reasonable hour six pm Mountain time last night,

1387
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Speaker 9: and among the reactions on social media as this flight

1388
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 9: delay was going on, at Chiefs Hive posted an AI

1389
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 9: image of a referee shoveling snow on an airport runway

1390
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 9: with the caption quote, shout out to the refs again

1391
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 9: coming to the Chief's aid. And then Jimmy posting quote,

1392
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Speaker 9: refs just called illegal procedure on the weather and gave

1393
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 9: the Chiefs a fourfeit win unquote Forfeit was spelled wrong, but.

1394
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Speaker 4: You get the idea. Back to you, guys, for fit.

1395
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 3: Like you're running a gym.

1396
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: Thanks Eilo and Izaglow and Crown keep up with him

1397
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: and all of the the goings on as we get

1398
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 2: ready for a big weekend here Week eighteen of your

1399
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: NFL season, Denver ten and a half point favorites with

1400
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: Kansas City coming to town, but obviously a lot of

1401
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: eyeballs and dollars being spent and talking about and getting

1402
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: ready for Minnesota and Detroit tonight the finale Bucky at

1403
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks where you find him find me over at Swellando.

1404
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: We were talking about this a little bit last hour.

1405
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: We tag in Chris Purfett at Chris Burfett Priud of

1406
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 2: Detroit where he does his work.

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Speaker 3: I brought this story up last hour. Chris wanted to

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01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 3: get your first.

1409
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: Blush on it, Okay, Ziggi Wilf and Company buying nearly

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01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: two thousand tickets and sending a note to their season

1411
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: ticket holders offering them an opportunity to buy at a

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01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: lower price point of many for as low as two

1413
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 2: hundred dollars to try to get some Minnesota influence into ford.

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Speaker 8: Field, So I'm curious how the NFL sees this moving forward.

1415
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 8: But besides that, I've also seen some of those fans

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01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 8: who bought those tickets immediately turned and put those on

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01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 8: resale market as well, So I know what they want,

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Speaker 8: and I believe a lot of these will be focused

1419
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 8: around the Vikings bench and that's what they want. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's ford Field has become notorious this year as far

1421
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 8: as an element that has created a lot of false starts.

1422
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 8: The Vikings have pride much like Lions fans do about

1423
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 8: getting some fans on the road, but you know, there's

1424
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 8: there's been this kind of back and forth about how

1425
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 8: many will be available. I'm curious how much the NFL

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Speaker 8: lets teams kind of do this where they buy tickets,

1427
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 8: But you know, for now, if if the Vikings do that,

1428
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 8: it probably opens the floodgate. So a lot of other

1429
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 8: teams putting down money for big games like this to

1430
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Speaker 8: get their fans in the door.

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01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: I gotta dig that just and may look if I'm

1432
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: if my ownership group that the Bears don't spend money

1433
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: on anything, so they're sure as hell not going to

1434
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: go buy two million dollars tickets if a game had

1435
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: any meaning in Week eighteen, they play the Packers today

1436
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 2: and the secondary market flooded with availability there as the

1437
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: Packers are a double digit favorite. Bucky, I mean, you know,

1438
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: from a fan perspective, I mean is this has got

1439
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 2: to be one of those things to win win over

1440
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: if you're an ownership group. Man, come on, not only

1441
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 2: can I potentially profit and pay off my Christmas debt,

1442
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: but if I really wanted to go to the game

1443
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: that they're offering me an opportunity to go into hostile

1444
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: territory and and try to create some sort of advantage.

1445
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 3: I think it's a win.

1446
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it is a win.

1447
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Speaker 7: It is a win for the Wolves to kind of

1448
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 7: create opportunities for Viking fans got to be there and attendance.

1449
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Speaker 1: I told you, man, look like we love you, then

1450
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: we hate you, then we love you.

1451
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 7: And what went to be the lovable losers and the

1452
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 7: Lions to now the bullies who kind of pummeled everybody,

1453
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 7: run scores up on people, They run trick plays like

1454
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 7: it's a flag.

1455
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: Football game, playing razzle dazzle.

1456
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 7: They've now become a little villainous and so ziggy, and

1457
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 7: the Vikings and they kind of want to bring some

1458
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 7: of that back and they would love nothing more. The

1459
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 7: teams love than to go in somebody else's.

1460
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: House and win.

1461
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, and if you can do it with some of

1462
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 7: your fans at the end celebrating. I told you when

1463
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 7: I'm giving the analogy about the double thumbs down and Gladiator,

1464
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 7: there is some of that they want to put back

1465
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 7: in Dan Campbell's face because as much as we love

1466
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 7: the manly, macho culture that he's created, maybe people are

1467
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 7: growing tired of the act.

1468
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 8: Well, I will say the Lions do embrace it. There

1469
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 8: is what the general manager. General manager Brad Holmes is

1470
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 8: always where it has been for multiple years now, wearing

1471
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Speaker 8: the villain shirt.

1472
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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: But we've talked about it the city with bad Boy

1474
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 3: Pistons boy.

1475
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but everything goes through its cycles, right, Remember how

1476
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: much we fell in love with the Warriors for about

1477
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: eighteen months and now a decade later, everybody's still saying

1478
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: they ruined basketball. Right now, They're the worst thing to

1479
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: ever happen to the NBA. As we talk about where

1480
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 2: the games evolved for the Lions, it's fascinating theater to

1481
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: me as to you know, an organization that finds it shift.

1482
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: Remember Dan Campbell getting mocked coming out of his initial

1483
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: press conference. But I really hope the NFL is not

1484
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 2: going to do anything here. But I really hope that

1485
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: they don't going forward the fact that this becomes a

1486
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: publicized story, but I think you should encourage it.

1487
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 8: I'm just curious how far it goes for certain places,

1488
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 8: Like if suddenly we turn around next year we have

1489
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 8: Lions Cowboys or something and the Lions buy up like

1490
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 8: a ton of tickets and embarrass the Cowboys with how

1491
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 8: many Lions fans are in Dallas, which they're all, We're.

1492
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: Already doing that in La do it in Vegas, we

1493
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 3: do it everywhere.

1494
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 8: If we put it on an industrial scale where we've

1495
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 8: got millions and millions of dollars from teams pumping in

1496
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 8: to put fans into a stadium, I'm just genuinely curious

1497
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 8: if someone's going to eventually cry foul. Not not here,

1498
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 8: but there's probably going to be an owner out there

1499
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 8: somewhere who's like, this is not fair that you are

1500
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 8: coming into my building and embarrassing my team in my place.

1501
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 2: Now to be fair, I mean going back again to

1502
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: where it is all about the filthy Lucer. Guys, as

1503
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: long as you're going through the official resale ticketing partner

1504
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: of the NFL, everybody's going to get one thirty second

1505
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: of that resale value whatever the NFL's cut is. So

1506
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: maybe you know what they're getting that munchy they're gonna get.

1507
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 2: They're goin to get set, they get a second bite

1508
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: at the apple.

1509
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why I don't think it's an issue at all,

1510
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 7: because they're gonna get their cut. They're happy as long

1511
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 7: as they get the money. There's a lot of intrigue

1512
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 7: around the game and they would love to see something

1513
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 7: that It makes one interesting storyline that the Sunday Night

1514
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 7: crew I have to talk about.

1515
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 3: All right, Oh, I feel good.

1516
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 8: But also like for a stadium as big as ford Field,

1517
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 8: two thousands, not too much.

1518
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 3: But that's the other the part like you mentioned Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the party deck and it's one tenth

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01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: of that, all right for the night, And for the

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01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 2: night that is we've got Johnson versus Flores. All right,

1522
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 2: who is the player that gets to be part of

1523
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 2: the trick play? And what do you expect tonight?

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Speaker 8: Well, I will say if there is a quarterback that

1525
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 8: has has you know, not blinked in the face of

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01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 8: Flora's defense. It has been Jared Goff who has now

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01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 8: beaten this Flora's defense I believe at least three times

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01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 8: in Detroit. But I it's got to be Pine Sewel, right,

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01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 8: Like they they love trying to get the ball to

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Speaker 8: Pine Sewel. They try to have him throw a touchdown

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01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 8: pass not long ago, and he is at the heart

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Speaker 8: of everything the Detroit Lions do, Like they run rushing

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01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 8: plays designed with Pine Sewel in mind to be the

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,879
Speaker 8: convoy leader. Like they they open up, they throw towards

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01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 8: receivers who have had giant holes open because of Pine Sewell.

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Speaker 8: This is a man who does everything and is probably

1537
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 8: one of the best offensive players for the Detroit Lion

1538
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 8: and the best right tackle and a Pro bowler. So yeah,

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01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 8: I think you get it down there. I think they're

1540
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 8: gonna try to let and if it's you know, in

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01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 8: a score, is in a place where they like it,

1542
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 8: why not try Pine Sewell doing something.

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01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 2: He's also shown that, you know, there's general disregard for

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01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: teams at times the Bears. That was the most disappointing

1545
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: thing in a disappointing year for me. Bucky is after

1546
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 2: the stumble bump play and chuckling it up that no

1547
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: defensive player said, I'll take a fifteen yarder for the team.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think when it comes to I think when

1549
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 8: it comes to Ben Johnson the trick plays. We are

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01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 8: seeing other teams trying to run trick plays. It's just

1551
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 8: that they they don't have the coordination the Lions do

1552
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 8: on running these plays. There's the hooking ladder that was

1553
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 8: right last week by aman Ross, Saint Brown and Jamison Williams.

1554
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 8: And if it works as well as a normal play,

1555
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 8: if you have the cord to make it work every down,

1556
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 8: not just out of desperation, but as part is your

1557
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 8: main playbook, why wouldn't you run it well?

1558
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: But there's there's a difference between running and play to

1559
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: where it's just full on disrespect versus it's a trick play.

1560
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 2: There's a line and I think the Ben Johnson has

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01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 2: uh the hubris has gotten him a couple of times

1562
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: and it's worked.

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01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 8: He it's it is a Hubris a little bit, and

1564
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 8: I'm curious what it is because, like so you bring

1565
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 8: up the stumble play, I know his original idea he

1566
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 8: had talked about was to put that ball directly on

1567
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 8: the ground. Yeah, but Jared Goff talked him out of

1568
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 8: It's like, no, that's kind of silly. Let's but that's

1569
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 8: part of but that's also part of how he works

1570
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 8: with his guys. He gets the buy in for this.

1571
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 8: He revises these kind of plays and he makes sure

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01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 8: that it's it's going to work with what the personnel

1573
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 8: he has.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

1575
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: No, I look, it's working and it's a beautiful thing.

1576
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 2: And we've talked about it a little off air, you

1577
01:13:55,280 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: and I about coaching prospects. Just eventually the football guyds

1578
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: do come home on you in some way, shape or form.

1579
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: He's Chris Prefet at Chris Prefet read him Pride of Detroit.

1580
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 2: You hear him here on the network. He'll be part

1581
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: of Red Zone Radio as Steven and Rich going out

1582
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:12,839
Speaker 2: a big Week.

1583
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 3: Eighteen at Bucky Brooks.

1584
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: Where you find him READIMNFL dot com, Foxsports dot Com

1585
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: find me over at Swollen Dome. As we continue here

1586
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio from the tire Rack dot Com studios,

1587
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: we'll wrap up what we have for.

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01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 3: A big Week eighteen in the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: Graandy, So welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football

1590
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: Sunday finishing up thanks to Chris follow Chris at Chris Purfet.

1591
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: We got our guys shame making us sound pretty Isaac

1592
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 2: lowing Kron getting ready for a big day of Chargers

1593
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 2: action at Isaac Loohancrown where you find him. Find me

1594
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome. I'll have some pithy comments about

1595
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 2: what I see week eighteen, mocking the Bears, no doubt

1596
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: along the way all of that, and then Smith and

1597
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: I back at it tomorrow night. The Eyewatcher Flex podcast

1598
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: is up through some darts at the week eighteen schedule.

1599
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 2: If you're still using it for fantasy purposes. If you

1600
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: did win your championship last week, congratulations, give us a

1601
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 2: heads up as to who got you there. Owing back

1602
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 2: to the Lions for a second, Bucky, Thirty seven point

1603
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 2: eight percent of all teams that played in a championship

1604
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,799
Speaker 2: game on ESPN dot Com had Jamier Gubes.

1605
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 3: How about that.

1606
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 2: Fantastic run down the stretch as well, once the greatness

1607
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: of David Montgomery went down for the count. But as

1608
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: we look at it going forward, you know, as much

1609
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: as we talk about the games, Bucky Tomorrow's It's all

1610
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 2: about looking ahead, right. We talked about Ken Dorsey and

1611
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: the offensive line coach getting dismissed in Cleveland. We're talking

1612
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 2: about coaching changes. We obviously joke about the interview process

1613
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: with the Jets. The Bears will go down that process

1614
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 2: as well, and everybody doing their pie in the sky

1615
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: of who they may hire. I asked rhetorically about Ben Johnson, like,

1616
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: unless I have complete control over everything, including maybe I

1617
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 2: get an ownership stake, as you know, a hallis McCaskey Johnson,

1618
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 2: I'm not going to Chicago with what's going on there

1619
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: and the history of meddling and everything else. And you

1620
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 2: look at all the jobs around there. Is there any

1621
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 2: of the cities where you'd be surprised or we may

1622
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: see a bit of a surprise in terms of a firing.

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01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 7: I think people talk about Las Vegas ap potentially being

1625
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 7: one and done there with Tom Brady's influences up or whatever.

1626
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 7: I don't know if ever showed because they kind of

1627
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 7: did knowing the thing before. But I'm certain he's a

1628
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 7: great coach and he would certainly run some of that

1629
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 7: stuff back there.

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Speaker 1: It would be a little bit of newing the.

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01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 7: Program with the edge that he's always created. You know,

1632
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 7: like people talk about Jackson Mille, Chicago is already open.

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01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 7: There's always a surprise one. So maybe keep an eye

1634
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 7: on the Innnanapolis Colts. There's some disappointment there. The quarterback

1635
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 7: hasn't played as well as many anticipated. This team is

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01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 7: kind of going I won't say nowhere, but they're just

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01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 7: kind of in a division that was winnable for them.

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Speaker 1: That might be one that you want to keep an

1639
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: eye on. The general managing to head coach.

1640
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Speaker 2: Because we got that today Indianapolis Jacksonville to finish it off.

1641
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: Still a lot of speculation there in Jacksonville, whether it's

1642
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 2: coaching GM out, or whether Doug Peterson returns, or whether

1643
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,560
Speaker 2: they run it all the way back. Certainly stik in

1644
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 2: two years with Anthony Richardson, and we've got reports that

1645
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: even your third string quarterbacks telling him he's got to

1646
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: work harder. Correct the reports that Ellinger pulled him aside

1647
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: talking about different players, Buckner and others that had designed

1648
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: their and their expectations and being woefully let down by

1649
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 2: his work ethic. Now he won't play today. It'll be

1650
01:17:55,720 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: a Joe Flacco experience for the final game here. But yeah,

1651
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: just that one would not shock me at all if

1652
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 2: Ursa did pull the trigger there, because, as you said,

1653
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 2: the division was winnable. Houston took a huge step back. Slowik,

1654
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: who was the hot nam last year is now just

1655
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: a guy, and c J. Stroud behind a bad offensive line.

1656
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 2: Now they had a lot of injuries to keep players.

1657
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 2: But you know he has an organization. You gotta rise

1658
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 2: above that. I mean, everybody's got injuries. Look at you

1659
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 2: got uh you need a huge scorecard to figure out

1660
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 2: who the hell is playing defense for the Lions tonight.

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01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gonna be a trip because the Lions. To

1662
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 7: think about the Lions that you love and respect, they

1663
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 7: don't make excuses for who they have, who is available

1664
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 7: or not.

1665
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna line up and play. They're gonna do what

1666
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: they do. And a lot of people say, oh, we're

1667
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: just gonna do it do but the Lions literally do that.

1668
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 1: They don't care who they are. They gonna play man

1669
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: to man, they're gonna do those things. They're gonna b Liz.

1670
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 7: They can bring pressure and then on offense, they're gonna

1671
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 7: put enough points up where they force you to play

1672
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 7: their style. Contrasting styles. It's gonna be a great game

1673
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 7: to watch them excited about some.

1674
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 2: Well just say this though, Bucky, I mean, I really

1675
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 2: wish that we have that swagger back in Chicago, like

1676
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: with the defense and with the culture that Detroit's built,

1677
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: because then you can just play all sorts of road

1678
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: Warrior clips from the eighties.

1679
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 3: We're from Chicago. Would we like to beat people up?

1680
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 7: I mean, I think that's a big part of it.

1681
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 7: You have to play that way in Chicago's to Windy City.

1682
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 7: Implement whether the Bears have a story tradition of being

1683
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 7: dominanto defense, you got to play into that.

1684
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 3: That's it. We'll see what happens going forward. You had

1685
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 3: the defensive coach.

1686
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: Now, while the firing and hiring cycle begins, I'm sure

1687
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 2: the guys have some odds Coming up next. Follow him

1688
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 2: at Bucky Brooks, Follow me at Swallowing Dome. It's Countdown

1689
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: to Kickoff, presented by bad MGM. Coming up next here,

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Speaker 2: it's Fox Sports Radio.