WEBVTT - What went wrong in Fantasy Football 2019? Lamar Jackson 2020 ADP

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<v Speaker 1>It's that's fun. Find bro say frantas practice start of

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<v Speaker 1>ball ladies and tell me in yours with that. We

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<v Speaker 1>wanted you inside of Studio thirty four. This is the BFFs.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Frank Stamfel, I am gregg sauceman. Come back man,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up man? Happy post Christmas? I hope you had

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<v Speaker 1>a healthy surfing of Chinese food last night, Greig, I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a Christmas party last night. We went

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<v Speaker 1>to a Christmas I do. I go do Christmas every year? Sweet?

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Yeah, you get the best of all the holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great. So I did China did Chinese on

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<v Speaker 1>uh Christmas Eve and saw moving. So I did my

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish Christmas. And then last night I went to our

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<v Speaker 1>Judy is like basically her aunt and uncle or Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a Monster's turkeys, some awesome corn and Spidge

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<v Speaker 1>and he's delicious. It sounds great. Yeah, it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds grea. We spoke about this earlier downstairs and

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<v Speaker 1>we could kind of just explain it to everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>case you don't know where does the origin of Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>people eating Chinese food on Christmas? Come from? Sure? Great question? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>really not a complicated answer when you told me either. No.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, uh, the Chinese restaurants and ones that are

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<v Speaker 1>open because back in the day the most Chinese people

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<v Speaker 1>were not Christian, so they didn't sell her Christmas, so

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<v Speaker 1>they stayed open. End a story. There you go. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese at a Chinese restaurant. So on Monday on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday when we were here on Christmas Eve, we ordered

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<v Speaker 1>in Chinese for the staff for lunch, so we got

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<v Speaker 1>the standard Chinese. We got General. The day that I'm out,

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<v Speaker 1>Greig orders launched for everybody did got General. We got

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<v Speaker 1>General Choush Chicken, we got like Lomaine, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>beef dish, a pork dish, and doublings classics. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday night, no, we did General Chousa. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's one. We basically one of the other. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>then Tuesday night we went to a different like as

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese place where I got dot non noodles and I

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<v Speaker 1>these dry rubs spicy wings. It was delicious. Whoa, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like some advanced dry rubs spicy wings. So my go

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<v Speaker 1>too is usually we got to fried rice. Obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>go do some sort of fried rice. Love fried rice

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<v Speaker 1>and usually either a chicken or beef dish and some

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<v Speaker 1>like garlic or spicy sauce. It's basically Chinese chicken with garlic.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic. You know the Chinese restaurant in my neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>they have awesome curry chicken. Here's a tie restaurant here

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<v Speaker 1>and makes awesome curry chicken. Yeah, but this is a

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<v Speaker 1>straight up like it's not even tie. It's just normal

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<v Speaker 1>tiny spot make curry chicken. It's great. So you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to know the place where we went to on

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Eve? They were packed, like packed because June and

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<v Speaker 1>I walked through. That makes sense. I called them, how

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<v Speaker 1>long is the wait for two people? I don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>Like ten minutes? Very cool? So we walked there. We

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<v Speaker 1>took our time for guys, got a half hour to

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<v Speaker 1>get there? We walking like how longs we have a

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<v Speaker 1>two people? An hour? And I just called you. You

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<v Speaker 1>told me it was ten minutes. You're like, well you

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<v Speaker 1>called me a half hour ago, Like yeah, but hour

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<v Speaker 1>an hour? Wait? But instead of the bar first, first

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<v Speaker 1>the bar, I don't care. So we we we sat

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<v Speaker 1>at the bar. We're talking at the bartender. You know

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<v Speaker 1>me I gotta talk to the bartend to make friends

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<v Speaker 1>social butterfly Greg. So Christmas Eve and Christmas are there

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<v Speaker 1>two busiest days of the year. Yeah, why not? One

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<v Speaker 1>of the only establishments open on the money? Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Then we saw Uncut Gems, which I really enjoyed this

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<v Speaker 1>right night. So Uncut Gems is the movie with Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Sandler serious role. So what's like without giving anything away,

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<v Speaker 1>so what's like the general synopsis of the movie. He

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<v Speaker 1>gets in trouble because of like gambling den So he

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<v Speaker 1>is a He is a jeweler in Midtown, the diamond district,

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<v Speaker 1>and he obviously sells all these diamonds, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>a gambling addict and doesn't just be like letters on games.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been like thousands and basically continues to swindle, basically

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<v Speaker 1>rob Peter to pay Paul where he would like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>this guy money, then would make a deal in his

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<v Speaker 1>store and take the deal that he had instead of

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<v Speaker 1>paying this guy. You didn't go that on it? And

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<v Speaker 1>Adam sayone also like direct this I think behind he

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<v Speaker 1>was a producer of it, I think, but the director

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<v Speaker 1>was the Saftie brothers who were also Jews. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a very Jewish movie. No. I mean, look, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great way to capitalize on, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>industry right now. But it's also a good reminder, right

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<v Speaker 1>for people who are jumping into the sports gambling and

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<v Speaker 1>sports wagering world, you know, not to get too caught

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<v Speaker 1>up in you know, everything that's going on, right so

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta wage it responsively, and this is a good

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<v Speaker 1>way to remind people of that. So it was that

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<v Speaker 1>was a smart way for Adam Sandler and co. To

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<v Speaker 1>uh take advantage of that. It's really enjoyable movie. Judy

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<v Speaker 1>gave it like a C plus. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, we'll take it that. I feel like a

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<v Speaker 1>sailer hasn't made a great movie in a while. This

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<v Speaker 1>is really good. I really She thought Sandler was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Garnett had a major role in it. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>Eight Crazy Nights on Monday, so that was my Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Sandler experience. Great classic. There are a few that I

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<v Speaker 1>have to watch everything a year to try and get

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<v Speaker 1>myself in the spirit Eight Crazy Nights. Although I'm not Jewish,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have celebrat Hanaka. It's still an awesome movie

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<v Speaker 1>to watch around this time of You're hilarious movie. So

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<v Speaker 1>that Die Hard obviously one of the best Christmas movies

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. I wish Ey was here so that

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<v Speaker 1>I can argue with him about it. Um yeah, classics

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<v Speaker 1>Jingle all the Way to Jingle all the Way. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it, and some one else was my friends

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<v Speaker 1>has never seen Jingle all the Way in now Year

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<v Speaker 1>of Living. My group text was going crazy because I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what underrated Christmas movie? Jingle all

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<v Speaker 1>the Way? Like, it's not underrated, it's awesome, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like everyone should know that it is great. It's amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the best Christmas movies. Great Christmas soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 1>Sinbad is great in the movie as well. Awesome Arnold Arnold.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's kind of hard to take him seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like feeding the deer like beer later on in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. Did you watch um mother on the phone? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>That's so good? Do you actually basketball? Asterner? I watched

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of basketball. I I lost one bet. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of betting responsibly, I I lost on the Bucks, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>show up to what was that too much? And then uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I bet on the Clippers, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the Clippers. I know you said on

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<v Speaker 1>the clippery we were all on the Clippers, So I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the I made it back with the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>Thisterday ended up going one in one, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of big upsets, and I thought overall the play was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. You know, the first game the Raptors weren't there.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a lot of injuries, obviously, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna start to work some more basketball talk into

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<v Speaker 1>the show here. Uh, now that we get further away

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<v Speaker 1>from football, obviously, we're still gonna talk about like the

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<v Speaker 1>playoff games and and uh, you know, maybe like playoff

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasy Survivor and you know, situations like that. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into playoff fantasy football obviously today, and we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about what happened this season, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a look ahead to next year. We will

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<v Speaker 1>work in some basketball talk. We'll take it into January

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<v Speaker 1>some baseball as well. Tomorrow we'll look toward weeks seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Assume right, sure, if you like, we can hit on

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff like DFS plays. You got play your season

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<v Speaker 1>long league in two weeks seventeen. Please, I'm begging you,

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<v Speaker 1>do not do that. Frank's back, Daddy's back. I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back after this NFL season is now upon us,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can become the eighth person away in one

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in a FANDULA Draft Kings tournament. My setting

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<v Speaker 1>are made. Back here on the BFFs, Frank Stample, Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Sussman hanging out with you and Frankie. I know on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday show, I got through like the first half of

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<v Speaker 1>the first round, kind of looking back on what we gave,

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<v Speaker 1>what we did raw, and I was hoping we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to kind of continue that today. Yeah, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm all for you know, taking a look back

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<v Speaker 1>at drafts early a DP, what went wrong, what we

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<v Speaker 1>got wrong, which players busted the most, and try and

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<v Speaker 1>learn from those mistakes. I think that you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, as soon as football ends, they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want to jump into the next four Well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>start talking pastball, let's start talking baseball, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to those things for sure. We have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time to talk basketball, to talk baseball in the

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<v Speaker 1>month of January. February. Uh, pitchers and catchers don't report

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<v Speaker 1>intil February as well. But I want to take this

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<v Speaker 1>time to really reflect on what we got wrong in football,

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<v Speaker 1>try and learn from it, try and figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>we can become better next year. Um. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately that will help make us better players. That will

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<v Speaker 1>help make other people better fantasy players as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that makes a lot of sense. So I

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<v Speaker 1>got to like the Deanandre Hopkins Davante Adams here um

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday, and that brought us to like five six essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>which interesting by the way that James Connor wut of

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<v Speaker 1>a five spot when it was all setting, which is like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. So I have nff C a DP

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up for the month of August. I'm usually just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a fantasy data Okay. I don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>use PPR should do it over here, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>use whatever you like, Frank. So what I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>here had James Conner right around pick eleven. So here

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<v Speaker 1>it has Danta Adam Yandra Hopkins five six and Connor

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<v Speaker 1>at seven. Yeah, but I mean that's where he was going,

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<v Speaker 1>like mid to late first round. It doesn't matter where

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<v Speaker 1>he went. It was busted and he was terrible. Yes. Um, So,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you want to start with Connor, whether you want

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<v Speaker 1>to start with the wide receivers, I'm going to pass that, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I want to start with running back. Then

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<v Speaker 1>our GST league fell and fell and fell and fell,

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<v Speaker 1>and you weren't there, and as this guy was falling,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god, what do I do? The

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<v Speaker 1>name was David Johnson. He went one pick before us

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<v Speaker 1>in that G S T league. We think James Conner

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<v Speaker 1>neither was right, but at number ten in our league,

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<v Speaker 1>number seven or eight or so in a DP, it's

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<v Speaker 1>David Johnson. Why did David Johnson bust? Well, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that happened here. Obviously early on

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<v Speaker 1>in the season, did not run efficiently. He was still

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<v Speaker 1>catching touchdowns and he was used a lot in the

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<v Speaker 1>past game, but injuries took over the fact that this

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<v Speaker 1>team traded for Kenyan Drake. I don't know that David

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson is the running back for Cliff Kingsbury, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they give David Johnson that big extension. Whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury was on board with that, um, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>entirely sure. But for whatever reason, they trade for Kenyan

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<v Speaker 1>Drake and Kenyan Drake ends up taking over, and even

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<v Speaker 1>when David Johnson was healthy enough to play, was used sparingly.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a backup. David Johnson was used as a

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<v Speaker 1>handcuff to Kenyan Drake. So between all the injuries that

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<v Speaker 1>David Johnson suffered from, and even when he was on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, he didn't look great the elusiveness that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen before, the strength, um it, he was not the

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<v Speaker 1>same player David Johnson. Clearly, you know, either was playing

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<v Speaker 1>hurt or all these injuries have kind of added up

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<v Speaker 1>to ultimately him just not being the player that he

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<v Speaker 1>once was. Greg and that in that big year with

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce arians um and he never really ran efficiently. He

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<v Speaker 1>was always great in the past game, caught a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of passes, caught a bunch of touchdowns. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Kenyan Drake came in the injuries to David Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna end up somewhere else. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be back with this team, whether he's cut

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<v Speaker 1>or traded, goes to Tampa Bay, goes to Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>If he winds up in the right system, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get him at a discount next year, which could be

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<v Speaker 1>profitable for fantasy football. But there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>factors in play here for why David Johnson did not

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<v Speaker 1>work out. David Johnson thinks, to me, he's really really interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at it as being really nervous to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you about him going forward. I get

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<v Speaker 1>why you like him in Casey or Tampa Bay or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Like I understand why the reasons like

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<v Speaker 1>and why the reasons for the bounce back. But see

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<v Speaker 1>what Kenyan Drake has done it in this offense with

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<v Speaker 1>David Johnson was seemingly unable to do in the office.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a red flag right like five, he

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<v Speaker 1>was never really healthy, but that was just like three

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<v Speaker 1>years on a row. He hasn't really been healthy, And

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<v Speaker 1>I made the joke a lot with Josh Gordon. That

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<v Speaker 1>when people come jumping in on Josh Gordon, jumping into

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Gordon, and it it hasn't been good in like six years,

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<v Speaker 1>and finally, like this year, people saw, all right, Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon isn't good anymore. I don't know if I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go that forward David Johnson, but it's clear when

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<v Speaker 1>this team acquired Kennyan Drake, like, all right, fine, David Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Edmonds are hurt. I get it. But when they

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<v Speaker 1>got healthy, okay, I understood going with the hot hand,

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<v Speaker 1>But David Johnson is your guy, He's who are you paid?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's still don't go back to him. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>what David Johnson is in the future. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what does he have left in the tank? Basically right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that was what I was gonna say. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still so young, and I it's it's well, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not as young as you would think. Man. Old. He

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<v Speaker 1>came in the league later than most people realize. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he played four years in college, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he came into the league later than most people expected.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's now twenty eight years old, so he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have as much where as other people, he only has

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<v Speaker 1>one season, that one great season where he had two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred ninety three rushing attempts, had eighty receptions, he had

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<v Speaker 1>twenty total touchdowns. Uh in eighteen. Last year he did

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<v Speaker 1>have two hundred and fifty eight rushing attempts, but at

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<v Speaker 1>its three point six yards per carry, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible season for him. Right in that Mike McCoy led

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<v Speaker 1>offense for the Arizona Cardinals. So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good point that you bring up. Right, Kenyan Drake plays

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<v Speaker 1>within the same system, comes in, He's running well, shows

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<v Speaker 1>off his explosiveness. The offensive line didn't look nearly as

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<v Speaker 1>bad with Kenyan Drake running behind it as David Johnson did.

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<v Speaker 1>They used him in the past game. Kenyan Drake was

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<v Speaker 1>a full on workhorse and he performed in that role.

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<v Speaker 1>We already saw when David Johnson was playing that Chase

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<v Speaker 1>Edmonds was starting to eat into his workload as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you're onto something there. Um, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fair question how much does David Johnson have left in

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<v Speaker 1>the tank. I think that if he goes into a

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<v Speaker 1>system where he is the lead running back for a

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<v Speaker 1>team where he sees fifteen plus touches, like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he hasn't been efficient, he'll be able to overcome

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<v Speaker 1>that if he's a work course. Obviously a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>running backs do, Leonard Fournett for example. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's fair to question where David Johnson's talent is

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in his career. At we'll see. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I just want to make sure what can we

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<v Speaker 1>learn from it? Though? Right? Like just tweeted and he

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<v Speaker 1>spelled my name wrong. Well, I retweeted it. I did

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<v Speaker 1>it over again. Right, you didn't delete this tweet though

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<v Speaker 1>I believe I did seeing it all my timeline, Frank, Well,

0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe you need to refresh your timeline, Greg, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at my Twitter right now and I redid it

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<v Speaker 1>and I spelled it correctly. Money. Try Is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>that we can learn from David Johnson? Like, was there

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<v Speaker 1>anything coming in that we could have said? So? Why

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<v Speaker 1>did he drop a G S day? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>because in high stakes draft he was still going in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of that first round that he was going

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<v Speaker 1>pick four or five six. Everyone you know, wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who wanted to drap they running back early. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted David Johnson in a full PPR format because you

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<v Speaker 1>knew he was gonna catch passes at the least a

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<v Speaker 1>tempo offense. With Cliff Kingsbury, you knew that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to run a ton of plays, which they did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so I was not hesitant. I've never had an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity at him, but I was hesitant at him because

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<v Speaker 1>of Cliff Kingsbury's usage um of running back in college

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<v Speaker 1>when we saw him as a head coach that like,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew they would play fast. But how much would

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<v Speaker 1>he use David Johnson? It would be a lot of shotgun.

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<v Speaker 1>How successful is he in the shotgun? They could use

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<v Speaker 1>him as a receiver as much as were of the the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Like those are the questions I had about him. And

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<v Speaker 1>again the system wasn't the problem, as we have now

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<v Speaker 1>seen with Kennyan Drake. Like all the reasons we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like people didn't like David Johnson had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with David Johnson. It was the system and the system

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<v Speaker 1>was fine. That's what scares me again him at the players.

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<v Speaker 1>So to ask your question of what can we learn,

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<v Speaker 1>uh huh. I think the fact that he has been

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<v Speaker 1>hurt as much as he has in recent years. He

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<v Speaker 1>did play sixteen games last year, he was hurt this year.

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<v Speaker 1>He only played one game the year before that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy has been banged up. I think you can

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<v Speaker 1>take that away from this and the fact that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't really been running efficiently the past couple of seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe we should have looked into that more. We

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<v Speaker 1>knew that this was not gonna be a great offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line coming in, but we thought that the volume here again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bring up the name Leonard Fournette. Fournette is not

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<v Speaker 1>an efficient runner, but he got so much work both

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground and as a receiver that he was

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<v Speaker 1>still able to pay off from a fantasy perspective. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's how I looked at it coming in

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<v Speaker 1>for David Johnson. I remember saying those exact words that

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<v Speaker 1>the volume for David Johnson was going to outweigh his

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<v Speaker 1>UH inefficiency. So I thought that David Johnson can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of put up a similar season what Leonard Fournette did.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just seemed like the injuries piled on Cliff

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<v Speaker 1>Kingsbury UH really does not like the player David Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>UM and someone like Kenyan Drake was better for his system.

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<v Speaker 1>As you mentioned, Greg, So, I think what we can

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<v Speaker 1>learn from it is someone who is banged up the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of years, someone who has not been an

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<v Speaker 1>efficient player, kind a bad offensive line. You know, take

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<v Speaker 1>all those things into account when you're drafting running back

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round. Obviously, yeah, absolutely, and the leondfer stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be at that today, probably because of where

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<v Speaker 1>he went. But like that went wrong? You didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>like the Leonard from No Where that I did? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I started moving him up, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>draft Leonard fort anywhere. It's not like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't pounding the table telling people to take Leonard Fournette.

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<v Speaker 1>I was worth everything we just said about David Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>You can say the same thing about Leonard Fournette. But

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<v Speaker 1>he managed to stay healthy. It worked absolutely, So I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is a good, you know kind of

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<v Speaker 1>are made. Okay, Frankie let's tie the David Johnson conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with the bow let me move want to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the running back of the un in this tier is

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<v Speaker 1>David Johnson, James Conner and I was always James Conner guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lebian Bell lady On Bell was the third running

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<v Speaker 1>back in that conversation. And my response to you always

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<v Speaker 1>with Jets office life sucks. It's a bad and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really bad. Did I ever say that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to the tape. We can find the tape,

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<v Speaker 1>that's easy. So lady On Bell in his first and

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<v Speaker 1>the only season with the Jets probably disappointment. Ultimately, he

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<v Speaker 1>played every game or every year but one when he

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<v Speaker 1>was bowling instead, and he finished this season's rbif pr

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<v Speaker 1>RB fifteen, so he just outside the RB one's here

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<v Speaker 1>RB nineteen in points per game. What went wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>lady On Bello this year? A lot of it is

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<v Speaker 1>the same as David Johnson, outside of the health of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the system was not conducive to running

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<v Speaker 1>backs being great for fantasy Shout out to Adam Gaze,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for that. Uh, you don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>use one of the best receiving running backs in the

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.359
<v Speaker 1>NFL really not that hard. But the offensive line didn't

0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 1>help things, Greg, I mean three point three yards per carry.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that Levian Bell was. He's not really one of

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<v Speaker 1>the better efficient running backs, right. I mean, his value

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<v Speaker 1>even when he was with Pittsburgh was catching the football

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<v Speaker 1>out of the backfield. The fact that you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>this guy would play full seasons, we're talking about someone

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<v Speaker 1>who catched over seventy over eighty passes in a season.

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<v Speaker 1>This year he does have sixty one receptions. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that was front loaded early on, in the first

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<v Speaker 1>month of the season, he was being used as a receiver, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they got away from that. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's just on Adam Gaze. I know, midway

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<v Speaker 1>point in the season, when the offense started playing better,

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Donald started contributing to the play calling more. He

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<v Speaker 1>told Adam Gaze what he wanted to do, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we saw, you know, a spike in Robby Anderson's production.

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<v Speaker 1>Crowder started bouncing back even the tight ends are being used.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe a little bit of that was on Sam Donald.

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<v Speaker 1>But ultimately the system Adam Gaze was not great this year.

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<v Speaker 1>For Levian Bell's usage, the offensive line was god awful.

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<v Speaker 1>The offense in general was not really a great one

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<v Speaker 1>there once again running the fewest plays in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of volume here with Adam Gaze and the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think more than anything, it's the system, the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, and the offense all being bad. It wasn't health,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. I don't think it's Levan Bell has lost

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<v Speaker 1>the step. You know, he sat out of season. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it really just has a lot to do with

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<v Speaker 1>playing for the New York Jets. I do believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if he was on Pittsburgh again this year,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably a top ten, top eight running back for fantasy,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even better than that. He's just playing all of

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<v Speaker 1>it on Adam Gaze, I think so. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that that's a cop out. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually fair criticism, so that a lot of it falls

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<v Speaker 1>on Gaze. For sure. We saw him his in ability

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<v Speaker 1>to use Kenny Drake obviously with Dolphins. Um what about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Bell just didn't play football last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he lose a step in that time? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so, because for a lot of this here, like

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<v Speaker 1>he was still giving it as all against the Baltimore Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a couple of weeks ago on Thursday I Football.

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<v Speaker 1>He ran well in that game, actually ran efficiently that

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<v Speaker 1>that was the season high in terms of rushing yardage

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<v Speaker 1>over eight yards against a good defense. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>still playing hard. He's still breaking a lot of tackles,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of the times, remember his style is

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 1>he's he's a patient runner. He was behind one of

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<v Speaker 1>the better offensive lines when he was in Pittsburgh. So no,

0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 1>his play style with the Jets offensive line, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not a good one, just didn't really work out for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think that Levian Bell has a lot left

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<v Speaker 1>in the tank. I think that he's still a good receiver. Uh.

0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 1>He proved that he had a few contested catches earlier

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<v Speaker 1>on in the season. I think he can still play.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of it is based on the system,

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, and the Jets. He's back with the Jets

0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 1>next year. He finished, as you said, the fifteenth overall

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<v Speaker 1>running back of PDR leagues. Most likely scenarios he's back

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<v Speaker 1>with the Jets, although of course there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>reporters that are saying he will not vague. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he will you know, I still think it remains

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<v Speaker 1>the most likely scenario. Do you think because of the contract, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's harder to trade. Yeah, yeah, it's not that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not easy to trade. But like a team like the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs for example, like they still have Patrick Mahomes on

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<v Speaker 1>that rookie contract, correct, so they could take on that

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Levy on Bell money, I think Frank Clark. So, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the Chief's calf situation, but everything's manipulated. It

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.920
<v Speaker 1>would be manipulated. So with all that being said, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you take them next year? So we've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about the Aaron Jones group of running back

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Todd Gurley, and I think with Aaron Jones performance this

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<v Speaker 1>past week that pushed him up draft boards heading into

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<v Speaker 1>next year as well, it's probably closer to a borderline

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<v Speaker 1>first early second round pick for Aaron Jones. I think

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Bell goes in that Gurly range, late second early third

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<v Speaker 1>round pick, maybe a little bit later than that, maybe

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.199
<v Speaker 1>even just a solid third round pick, early to mid

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<v Speaker 1>third round pick. But I think now once you get

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<v Speaker 1>past those top twelve running backs, I think he's likely

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<v Speaker 1>drafted as a high nd RB two, assuming that he

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<v Speaker 1>is back with the Jets. If he ends up somewhere

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>else in a better situation, obviously like the Chiefs one

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>of the best offenses in the league. I think that

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.400
<v Speaker 1>likely makes him a mid to late first round pick

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<v Speaker 1>once again heading into next year. But with the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>probably an early to mid third round pick. A huge difference, dude,

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and in the first round, the middle of the third

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>your situation there that matters enough for Levion Bell. We

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>just saw it. I mean, if that's Adam is gonna

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>be back, that's not gonna change. They're gonna, I hope,

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 1>address the offensive line if they If they don't, then

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Joe Douglas should be the next GM gone, you know,

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 1>within the first couple of seasons here with the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's very clear that they need to upgrade the

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>offensive line. I think they'll do that, you know, whether

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it's through free agency, through the draft, um. But ultimately

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:30.919
<v Speaker 1>the system hasn't been great for him. So if he's

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<v Speaker 1>back with the Jets, I think he's probably an early

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>third round pick. Let me move on, Frank and get

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to the next guy. You're noticing a theme here, Greig.

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>The top twelve running backs rearly drafted here basically half

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>of them busted. Levian Bell, James Conner, David Johnson. I

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>would even consider Alvin Kamara bust season. Say Kwan Barkley

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a bust, and then you look at the rest of

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the names that are in this mix. Joe Mason was

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 1>not great for a large majority the season. Damian Williams

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 1>came in at RB twelve. No, I'm just saying, I'm

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>looking at the top twelve running backs drafted and basically

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.120
<v Speaker 1>half of them were bust. So looking early round, running

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>back can win you a league. Christian McCaffrey, Ezekiel Elliott

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:18.160
<v Speaker 1>was fine, Nick Chubb was great, Dalvin Cook was great.

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>These guys can win you leagues. They touched the ball

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>more than any other player in the NFL. It's still

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a risky position, man, no matter how which way you

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>want to slice it, it is a risky position. Greg

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>The next guys in the first round that went off

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the board weren't running backs. They were wide receivers. Michael

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Thomas and Julio Jones. They had good years, rank and

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:41.880
<v Speaker 1>they had great years. Where do you take them next year?

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>Michael Thomas is going to be a top three or

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>four pick. He will be will he be taking before Jackson.

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure people are going to There's gonna be people

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>on both sides. I know that you're probably one that

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.360
<v Speaker 1>is going to lean with Lamar Jackson there, and everyone's

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna make the argument, well, Lamar Jackson was drafted outside

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<v Speaker 1>the top twelve quarterbacks. A lot of the quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 1>actually performed this year and finished inside the top twelve

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>were drafted outside of the top twelve in terms of ADP.

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>The Josh Allen's, the Jameis Winston's, the Lamar Jackson's obviously

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>of the world. So they're gonna make the argument, well,

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you can try and find that quarterback again next year,

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 1>draft a quarterback late like they always do, and they're

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, I want this safe, steady production at one

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<v Speaker 1>of the skill positions, which will be Michael Thomas, and

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>I probably lean in that category as well. So I

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>think Michael Thomas a top three or four pick, and

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 1>it is warranted. He deserves to be so drew in

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>his quarterback Uh, you know, you have to go back

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and look at the production in games that he played

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>with with um Teddy Bridgewater. I do think, you know,

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Teddy Bridgewater would be the starting quarterback for the Saints

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>if Drew Brees is gone. But remember every week we

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>talked about the consistency out of Michael Thomas, consistently putting

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>up receptions in yards. He didn't really have a down

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>game this year. A lot of those games came with

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Teddy Bridgewater as well. So if Teddy is there, maybe

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 1>your downgrade Michael Thomas a little bit. But even if

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Bridgewaterson's quarterback, I can't see him slipping past pick five

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>or six. It's Julio your second wide receiver off the

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.679
<v Speaker 1>board heading into next year. Um, if he's not second,

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>he's close to it. I think DeAndre Hopkins, the the

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>town level is still there for him. He got off

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to a slow start, but the second half of the

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>year was really really good. With for DeAndre Hopkins finishes

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the season as the fourth wide receiver is the standards

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>in PPR leagues he finished, He's currently nine points beyond

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Hopkins, playing one game less on it points for

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>a game basis, Julio Jones was better than DeAndre Hopkins

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 1>in full PPR. I still lean with Hopkins Hopkins too,

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but the obvious question is the guy that is ahead

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 1>of both of them, Frankie. In this year's ranking, that's

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Chris Godwin. Godwin finishes his season with eighty six catches,

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>over hundred yards receiving, and nine touchdowns. Now, I don't

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 1>know who their quarterback will be. UM. Personally, I think

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it will be Jamis Winston. Once again, I think either

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:09.959
<v Speaker 1>gets tagged or I just don't know that the answer

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>for the Bucks at this point in time. Although Bruce

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>arians might want to bring in his own guy through

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the draft or free agency, or you're bringing a Cam

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Newton or whatever it might be. Um, I think they're

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna go with what they know, and they've talked up

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Jameis Winson, so I think he'll be back there. It's

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>very bad, very good from a fantasy perspective. Shore He's

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 1>He's right, He's a guy. He's gonna throw three touchdowns

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>at three interceptions. That's what he does. Yeah. So, uh,

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Godwin nine touchdowns on this season. Both he and Evans

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>were very good. Not as consistent as you would hope

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>because one time one guy has a game, one time

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the other other good game. Because God when the first

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>round pick next year, I think he is a borderline.

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I think he's at the back end of the first round,

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe early second round pick, and you don't think you're

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna change depending on who the quarterback is. But uh,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the spike weeks for whether it was Guy Win or Evans,

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, those are monsters, especially if you play in

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>best ball, Like if Winston is the quarterback, you just

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>want exposures so much passing volume, he throws the ball

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>down the field. Uh. They put Godwin in a great

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>position to succeed this year lining up in the slot more. Uh,

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>they were using him in that Larry Fitzgerald's role from

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>this Bruce Arians offense from when he was with the Cardinals,

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and it was conducive to a great season again he was.

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>He's currently the wide receiver to only playing fourteen games.

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>He didn't play last week. He's still wide receiver two overall.

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:32.719
<v Speaker 1>He's wide receiver two overall in fantasy points per game. Personally,

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I would lean with the Hopkins and Julio just because

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>they've done it longer, more consistent quarterbacks away. But I

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>think once you get past those, guys like Chris Godwin

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and Mike Evans are very clearly going to be inside

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the top five, top six seven of wide receivers drafted

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>late first round picks, early second round picks. You have

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Mike Evans, and I'll lean with Godwin. I think he's

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>the more versatile player. You move him more around the field.

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>He's He's certainly more consistent than Evans. Evan has higher

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>upside on a weekly basis. But give me the safer player.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael's Hell Fregg, you got a question for me during

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the break? Yeah, I think it's interesting to kind of

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>pitt the Bucks wide receivers up against Davanta Adams, because

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I think they're all gonna be in a similar range

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<v Speaker 1>heading into next year. You know, Devanta Adams was a

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>dud earlier on in the season. You know, he was

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>still seeing targets, he was catching balls, he was you know,

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>he had the yards there, but did not score a

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>touchdown until late in the season. He was so safe

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>for touchdowns in the past couple of seasons. And you know,

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>La Fleur comes in here as the head coach of

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the Packers Greg and changes this offense where they don't

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>really rely on Aaron Rodgers as much. The defense plays better,

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>so they don't really find themselves in negative game scripts

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>where they need to be throwing the ball as much.

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>The volume obviously leans with the Bucks, but you might

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>get more consistency out of a Davantae Adams, who is

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>clearly the go to guy for Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>So I kind of just leave it open ended. I

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's a fair question. I think they're all gonna

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.479
<v Speaker 1>go in a similar range next year, you know, late

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>first round range. But between the Bucks wide receivers and

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Devanta Adams, which way would you lean? So for me,

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's really tough because Davante Adams, you saw what the

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>goods the good is of him in week sixteen, right

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>thirteen catches a hundred billion yards and get in the

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.959
<v Speaker 1>end zone. But like that's the best you can get

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>out of Davante Adams. But the amount of the Packers

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>throw really scared man scares and Mat Lafleur is the

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>head coach with this offense. They want to run the

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>football and they already running football team. I know Davante

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Adams was hoveringbots to injury pretty much all season. The

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>books as currently constructed or not, They're going with you,

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Chuck and Chuck and Chuck and Chuck. That is Bruce Arians.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>That will always for Sara vbrus Arians. You and I

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>have talked a lot over the past two or three

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>years now, Frank, since we've been doing this about learning

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and learning about coaches and learning about styles and using

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that to our advantage. From what I know from his

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>time at Tennessee to his time at Green Bay. Matt

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Lafleur is not a vertical coach. He wants to run

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the football and use game control and a good defense

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and manage the game. For that reason, I'm gonna take

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the quantity. I'm gonna take Chris Godwin, gonna take god

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Would you take Mike Evans as well over Davonta Adams?

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Do you know it's crazy? I'm

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>looking at the targets right here for Davontae Adams that

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been an issue since he's returned eleven, ten, twelve, ten, six, thirteen,

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and sixteen targets. So he has double digit targets in

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>every game but one since returning from injury. You're right.

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>They definitely want to play better defense. They want to

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>run the ball more. Aaron Jones has been great this

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>year with the under the floor, you know, scoring touchdowns,

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>catching passes. Uh. They they did don't want to rely

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>on Aaron Rodgers as much. But when Aaron Rodgers needs

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to pass the ball, every team is going to have

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to pass the ball. Vante is a guy like they

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>don't really have a number two options. Jimmy Graham is

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>washed up. Lazard is fine. They take a few deep

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>shops with him per game. MVS has not worked out

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>this year. I remember that debating MVS or Jona Austin.

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>How about none for the season. I said it on

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Tuesday's show, how I was between MVS and Geronimo my

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>auction So so I like both right, and a lot

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>of people were taking both Steelers wide receivers as well,

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Moncrief and James Washington, and a lot of people were

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>also just pairing up the Steelers and James Conner and Jiujiah.

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>We did that, sure, Okay, I think I would lean

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>with Adams, though, I think I would take Adams over

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the Yeah, okay, the target volumes still different when they

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball, they throw it. He's yeah, I think

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>that about it. He is talented. Cushion issues obviously, this

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Towe issue, it's annoying. Um at the end of the

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>first round that wrap round depending on who you would take.

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned Jujus miss Schuster on Tuesday. We just

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 1>mentioned him. Now, the other wide receiver that was really

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>in that range he was talked about O'Dell on Tuesday

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>was Tyreek Hill. That's Tyreek Hill got injured in the

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>first quarter of the first game, missed a whole bunch

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>of time early, and then came back and pretty much

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>was Tyreek Hill again. I feel like, kind of just

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>looking at it, Tyreek Hill probably goes around the same

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>spot next year, right, Yeah, late first round, early second round.

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I saw some like super early mox where that's where

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>he does end up going. Have no problem with him

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>in that spot, had no problem with him as a

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 1>first round He's writing this mix with Adams and the

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Bucks wide receivers, they're all gonna be the first with

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 1>doing it again. I'm commament Tyreek Hill. I like Tyree Hill.

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought you got in a little bit of discount

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>last year. I mean, I'm he did his job for

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>me this year. Yeah, I would say that that is fair.

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, outside of the injury, which sucks because when

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>he was on the field, he's been pretty damn good.

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hill has been here. Uh not as many touchdowns

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>as you've hoped. He still has been a little bit

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>boom or bust. So you look at like the past

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>four games, for example, he's only scored in one of

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>those games. He did score two touchdowns back in Week fifteen,

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>but last week five for seventy two in Week fourteen

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>six for sixty two. The Chief's offense hasn't been as

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>dynamic this year because Patrick Mahomes has been banged up.

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>But next year, I think, you know, there'll be a

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a buying opportunity here for Tyreek Hill,

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>where you know, Patrick Mahomes can use this offseason to

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>get healthy and we've seen what Patrick Mahomes is capable

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of what his upside can be. And based on that upside,

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey are his go to receivers.

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>That is not going to change. There is not a

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 1>number two wide receiver on this team to speak of.

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Travis Kelsey is that guy, but like Sammy Watkins is

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>not great at this point in his career. DeMarcus Robinson

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>is who he is, McCole hardman. They'll take a few

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>deep shots per game. Tyree Hill is undoubtedly the guy,

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and I actually think that based on how this season

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>has gone, uh and this past month, depending on what

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>he does in the playoffs, because if he blows up,

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>you know people are gonna remember that. But if he doesn't,

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that creates a little bit of a buying

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>opportunity here for Tyree Hill and the Chief's offense as

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a whole. Listen, I'm backing on the Chiefs, Mini Mahomes

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>men on Tyreek Hill. No issue there. You mentioned Danny

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Williams a few moments ago. I think it'll be interesting

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to see what they do it running back. I think

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>we will assume they're not gonna stay pat right, They're

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna do something. I think, um, there's just too many

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>people available, whether it's David Johnson and leviyan Bel via

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>trade drafting or running back with DeAndre Swift or signing

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 1>a moment and Drake potentially signing one of those guys,

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>So definitely a lot of names to pay attention to

0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>their Um, Kareem Hunt will end up somewhere, not back

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>with Kansasy. I think that's safe to say. I think

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>that's safe to say as well. Let's move on, Frank

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>to the other running mats that were taking around this spot.

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Two guys that had really good years was Nick Chubb

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>and Dalvin Cook. Uh. Nick Chubb, I'll start with him

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:14.399
<v Speaker 1>because I owned Nick Schubb for longer than I owned

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook, and I think when Nick Chubb was the

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>volume was there obviously led the League of Russian going

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>into this past week. Well, Kareem Hunt came aboard. It

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>changed everything, right, He didn't play third downs anymore, he

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't catch passes anymore, and it really sucked his value

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>in PVR leaves. And it's very, very frustrating. Now. I

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's gonna happen with Kareem Hunt next year.

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's gonna happen with the coaching staff

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 1>next year. I think Nick Chubb was really really good,

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>but I can tell you as a Chubb owner, that

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>was really frustrating and more frustrating than I hope they

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be. Yeah, and this was a huge topic of

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>conversation throughout draft season. There was a lot of people

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>who didn't want Nick Chubb because they were like, oh, well,

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>when you get to the Fantasy Football playoffs in the championship,

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and Nick Chubb is not going to be um, He's

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be seeing the same workload as he did

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>earlier on in the see reason. Well, they were right

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>about him busting in the Fantasy Football Championship. It certainly

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't due to volume reasons, because he still saw fifteen

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>carries in Week sixteen. But yeah, we spoked about this

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>on Monday. He was one of the bigger letdowns in

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the Championship. But look at the games before that. I

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.320
<v Speaker 1>mean a hundred and twenty seven yards and a rushing

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 1>touchdown against the Cardinals in Week fifteen. Uh, he didn't

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 1>see as many carries later on in the season with

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Kareem Hunt there, certainly didn't see the targets of receptions.

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>He is capable of catching the ball. We know that

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>now because there was there was some question marks about

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 1>his receiving role coming into the season. The first two

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>months of the year. Great they used him as a receiver.

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, you would get where he wound up with

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>his UH, with his receiving or seven targets, thirty five catches,

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>two d and seventy seven receiving yards, you don't want

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that to be better out of your your early round

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 1>running back. But again, when he does on the ground,

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:51.919
<v Speaker 1>UH certainly makes up for that. He leads the league

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>in rushing attempts. UH. He leads the league in rushing

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>yards as well, fourteen hundred and fifty three rushing yards. So,

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>assuming Kareem Hunt is gone, I think Nick Chubb is

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in the mix as a top five pick,

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>top five six pick heading into next year with no

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Kareem Hunt. I think that that's warranted. Are you taking

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>him ahead or after Cook? I would take assumming Kareem

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Hunt is gone, I would take Nick Chubb ahead of

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook, and I think that they should go in

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and in that same range. I think that they're both

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be top five, top six face just because he's

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:31.360
<v Speaker 1>been healthier in his career. You know, Dalvin Cook probably

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a more dynamic player overall. They certainly use him more

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>in the pass game than the Browns used Nick Chubb. UM,

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>but he has been more injury prone. We've seen that

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>now basically every year that he's been in the carew

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>in in the NFL, he's missed long stretches of time

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 1>now dealing with the shoulder injury. Chubb has just been

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>healthier and because of that, I think they're both gonna

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>be great. But you're splitting hairs. I would lean with

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb for the health reason over Dalvin Cook. What's

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>say you? Maybe my leans probably Dalvin Cook. I think

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 1>this is a um A coach, and he's like I

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>think Freddy Kitchen is the joke. I know he wanted.

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>He's giving the ball and Nick up a billion times,

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's what I think about this. Nick tub

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>was great this year, even with Freddy Kitch. So I

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>just like Minnesota and their style what they do. They

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.320
<v Speaker 1>love that smash mound. They want to run the football.

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 1>They don't want to leave it in the hands of

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins, who sucks, so they leave down the cook. Yeah,

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Alexander Madison's there, He's going to take away some opportunities.

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be annoying every once in a while. I think,

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 1>great now my leans downin cook. I don't know that

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a wrong answer. I think both are

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be very popular. And I will have this conversation

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 1>in April and I'll well, you disgard everything I'm saying now.

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Right now I'm saying, don't cook sure fair enough? So

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that really kind of it is. She's out like the

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 1>first round of guy. You know, Dvin Coops were early

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>second round, but like kind of finishes it out. So

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>let me go into round two. You think Odell Beckham

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.879
<v Speaker 1>already on Tuesday you mentioned if Coleman was going Joe

0:40:59.920 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>make him and Joe Mixon is a really interesting one too,

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 1>because Joe Mixon was a guy that started in that UM,

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, David Johnson, James Connor, like he

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>was there with those guys what it was all said

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and done. He went in the middle of the second round.

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Joe Mason end of the season pretty strong. We're a

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>new with a new quarterback, hopefully a better offensive line.

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>What do think about Joe Mixon next year? Joe makes

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:28.800
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be an interesting one to figure out. And

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I had Nick Arcolano on midway through the season. I

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>believe you know, you were getting ready for your wedding

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 1>whatever it might be great after I got married, maybe,

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>uh and um, we were talking about dynasty byloads. And

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon obviously was a very popular one on the

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>early part of the season because he's still super young.

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>We know what he's capable of. He is someone that

0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>can handle a full workload, and as the season went on,

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>they started to give him that workload. He's a better

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 1>pass catcher than they've actually used him as during this

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>season with the Cincinnati Bengals and really his career, he's

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>a really good pass catcher. He has everything that you

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>want in a workhorse running back, Greig. The talent is there,

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the draft pedigree is there. The offensive line is going

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to get better next year. Jonah Williams is gonna return.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 1>He was the first round pick of this year's draft

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 1>with the Bengals, and I think overall, their offense is

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be better. No, Joe Burrow is gonna come in here.

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna draft him first overall, and I think, yes,

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>there'll be some growing pains for a rookie quarterback, but

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.439
<v Speaker 1>he has shown a lot at the collegiate level. Greg

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.720
<v Speaker 1>and I think that there is reason to be excited

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 1>about this offense overall, and Joe Mixon and the really

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>this workload that he has received under Zach Taylor, that

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a rookie head coach here later on in the season,

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.399
<v Speaker 1>and because of that, he will be a popular pick

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>come next year. I think that he is going to

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>go ahead of some of these other names like Girly

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and Levion Bella. I think he's gonna be more of

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>a mid second round pick. I think around Levian mel

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. I think every other thing Mixing and Miles

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Sanders are gonna go like in the same in the

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 1>same range we went through the first round and we

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't name Miles Sanders. Well, we were going over the

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>first round of this year. Your traps, do you? I

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 1>think all the names outside of David Johnson, I guess,

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what, as a silly statement, because Joe Mixon

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<v Speaker 1>will go behind Dalvin Cook, behind Nick Chub, He'll go

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<v Speaker 1>behind take On Barkley, will go behind Christian mccaffree, will

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<v Speaker 1>go behind Alvin Camara, hin Zekie Elliott. That's six. I

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<v Speaker 1>just named right there. He's gonna go. Those players will

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<v Speaker 1>be first round players still as well. I agree then

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<v Speaker 1>also first round players. You have Michael Thomas is a

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<v Speaker 1>lock that's seven. You have DeAndre Hopkins a lock that's eight.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Julio Jones a lot that's nine. Maybe Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna say I would take Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>head him. That's there are a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to agree with that. It's not a crazy standard.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's ten. I think that's ten strong. I

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<v Speaker 1>think after that, I mean, you could get into Devon Adams,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get into Tamba guys, and you're get into

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon, right, I think that's Derrick Hennery is a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting name too, like it will be a late

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick. Ye will be yes, he will be

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<v Speaker 1>Derrick Henry over Joe Mixon. Um, that's a close call.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a close called. Probably would lean with Derrick Henry.

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<v Speaker 1>If Ryan tadd Hills back some consistency year over year

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<v Speaker 1>offense looked great. Um under Riots tattle Hill. Once he

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<v Speaker 1>took over A J. Brown, Everyone's gonna be excited about

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<v Speaker 1>next year. John Nu Smith. We know what Derrick Henry

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<v Speaker 1>is capable of. The monster workload here. Doesn't catch the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in the backfield, but the rushing yardage is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be there. The rushing touches, uh, the his usage in

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone, that's all gonna be there for Derrick Henry.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's close, But as of now, I

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<v Speaker 1>would lean Derrick Henry over Joe Makeson heading into I

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<v Speaker 1>up with three questions in three minutes. Frank, question number one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I brought it up a lot to you in

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<v Speaker 1>the past week or two. Will you make Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>a top five pick? In personally, I will not not

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<v Speaker 1>nine a one quarterback league. And I'll let you expand

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<v Speaker 1>on this a little bit as well, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>you feel more strongly about it. I put out a

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<v Speaker 1>poll before the show asking where do people think Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson should go next year, and of the vote, current

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<v Speaker 1>leading vote getter says second round for Lamar Jackson in

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<v Speaker 1>a one quarterback league and a super flex. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt he is either the the first overall pick or

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<v Speaker 1>the second overall pick behind to McCaffrey. But in a

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<v Speaker 1>one quarterback league, I will not be selecting Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round. How about you. I will be

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<v Speaker 1>selecting Lamar and Jackson the first round. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>just is rushing alone, which I'll read see you now.

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<v Speaker 1>He had twelve hundred rushing yards and seven touchdowns. There,

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<v Speaker 1>harb one, folks. He is six in the NFL in

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<v Speaker 1>rushing yards overall. Okay, pretty crazy. So they'll will you're

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<v Speaker 1>here in the off season. They're gonna dial back the runs.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to. They don't want it to be silly.

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<v Speaker 1>This is who they are, this is who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to change that. What happens when they

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<v Speaker 1>lose Greg Roman, Well that's their carversation. Oh all right, Greggy.

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<v Speaker 1>If they lose Greg Roman, it's a different conversation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I think that they will lose Greg Roman. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if they do, I think there. I trust John harmon Off.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna bring another Marty Morning Way time to

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<v Speaker 1>do this. He's gonna bring someone that will get the

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<v Speaker 1>best of Lamar Jackson. He's easier said than done. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, question too, Yeah, question number two this week,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert given the third is going to start for Lamar Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>would you play him in DFS? Yeah? I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't looked at the salaries yet, but I assumed that

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<v Speaker 1>he will run a similar offense obviously to what Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson has done all year. He will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>provide some rushing yardage. A tougher matchup against Pittsburgh obviously

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<v Speaker 1>here and it must win Game four Pittsburgh. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find a quarterback that that is that cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>that offers rushing upside as well, I think you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>hard pressed to do so. So Yeah, I think r

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<v Speaker 1>G three in DFS makes sense. Question number three, You

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Greg Roman will be in Baltimore next year?

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<v Speaker 1>Where will he be? Uh, let's go with someone's that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fire their offensive coordinator. No, I don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>a good nitches has anything comes Someone's gonna need an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator. He's the coach or maybe a head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>That lead is alice coordinator. He's gonna go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>See that. We all we hope st