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Speaker 1: wanted you inside of Studio thirty four. This is the BFFs.
Speaker 1: Here's Frank Stamfel, I am gregg sauceman. Come back man,
Speaker 1: what's up man? Happy post Christmas? I hope you had
Speaker 1: a healthy surfing of Chinese food last night, Greig, I had.
Speaker 1: I went to a Christmas party last night. We went
Speaker 1: to a Christmas I do. I go do Christmas every year? Sweet?
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, you get the best of all the holiday.
Speaker 1: It was great. So I did China did Chinese on
Speaker 1: uh Christmas Eve and saw moving. So I did my
Speaker 1: Jewish Christmas. And then last night I went to our
Speaker 1: Judy is like basically her aunt and uncle or Christmas.
Speaker 1: We had a Monster's turkeys, some awesome corn and Spidge
Speaker 1: and he's delicious. It sounds great. Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1: It sounds grea. We spoke about this earlier downstairs and
Speaker 1: we could kind of just explain it to everybody in
Speaker 1: case you don't know where does the origin of Jewish
Speaker 1: people eating Chinese food on Christmas? Come from? Sure? Great question? Um,
Speaker 1: really not a complicated answer when you told me either. No.
Speaker 1: So basically, uh, the Chinese restaurants and ones that are
Speaker 1: open because back in the day the most Chinese people
Speaker 1: were not Christian, so they didn't sell her Christmas, so
Speaker 1: they stayed open. End a story. There you go. So
Speaker 1: the Chinese at a Chinese restaurant. So on Monday on
Speaker 1: Tuesday when we were here on Christmas Eve, we ordered
Speaker 1: in Chinese for the staff for lunch, so we got
Speaker 1: the standard Chinese. We got General. The day that I'm out,
Speaker 1: Greig orders launched for everybody did got General. We got
Speaker 1: General Choush Chicken, we got like Lomaine, we got a
Speaker 1: beef dish, a pork dish, and doublings classics. Right, So
Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, no, we did General Chousa. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's one. We basically one of the other. Um. So
Speaker 1: then Tuesday night we went to a different like as
Speaker 1: Chinese place where I got dot non noodles and I
Speaker 1: these dry rubs spicy wings. It was delicious. Whoa, that's
Speaker 1: like some advanced dry rubs spicy wings. So my go
Speaker 1: too is usually we got to fried rice. Obviously I
Speaker 1: go do some sort of fried rice. Love fried rice
Speaker 1: and usually either a chicken or beef dish and some
Speaker 1: like garlic or spicy sauce. It's basically Chinese chicken with garlic.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. You know the Chinese restaurant in my neighborhood,
Speaker 1: they have awesome curry chicken. Here's a tie restaurant here
Speaker 1: and makes awesome curry chicken. Yeah, but this is a
Speaker 1: straight up like it's not even tie. It's just normal
Speaker 1: tiny spot make curry chicken. It's great. So you would
Speaker 1: like to know the place where we went to on
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve? They were packed, like packed because June and
Speaker 1: I walked through. That makes sense. I called them, how
Speaker 1: long is the wait for two people? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Like ten minutes? Very cool? So we walked there. We
Speaker 1: took our time for guys, got a half hour to
Speaker 1: get there? We walking like how longs we have a
Speaker 1: two people? An hour? And I just called you. You
Speaker 1: told me it was ten minutes. You're like, well you
Speaker 1: called me a half hour ago, Like yeah, but hour
Speaker 1: an hour? Wait? But instead of the bar first, first
Speaker 1: the bar, I don't care. So we we we sat
Speaker 1: at the bar. We're talking at the bartender. You know
Speaker 1: me I gotta talk to the bartend to make friends
Speaker 1: social butterfly Greg. So Christmas Eve and Christmas are there
Speaker 1: two busiest days of the year. Yeah, why not? One
Speaker 1: of the only establishments open on the money? Why not?
Speaker 1: Then we saw Uncut Gems, which I really enjoyed this
Speaker 1: right night. So Uncut Gems is the movie with Adam
Speaker 1: Sandler serious role. So what's like without giving anything away,
Speaker 1: so what's like the general synopsis of the movie. He
Speaker 1: gets in trouble because of like gambling den So he
Speaker 1: is a He is a jeweler in Midtown, the diamond district,
Speaker 1: and he obviously sells all these diamonds, but he is
Speaker 1: a gambling addict and doesn't just be like letters on games.
Speaker 1: He's been like thousands and basically continues to swindle, basically
Speaker 1: rob Peter to pay Paul where he would like, oh
Speaker 1: this guy money, then would make a deal in his
Speaker 1: store and take the deal that he had instead of
Speaker 1: paying this guy. You didn't go that on it? And
Speaker 1: Adam sayone also like direct this I think behind he
Speaker 1: was a producer of it, I think, but the director
Speaker 1: was the Saftie brothers who were also Jews. It was
Speaker 1: a very Jewish movie. No. I mean, look, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a great way to capitalize on, you know, the
Speaker 1: industry right now. But it's also a good reminder, right
Speaker 1: for people who are jumping into the sports gambling and
Speaker 1: sports wagering world, you know, not to get too caught
Speaker 1: up in you know, everything that's going on, right so
Speaker 1: you gotta wage it responsively, and this is a good
Speaker 1: way to remind people of that. So it was that
Speaker 1: was a smart way for Adam Sandler and co. To
Speaker 1: uh take advantage of that. It's really enjoyable movie. Judy
Speaker 1: gave it like a C plus. I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, we'll take it that. I feel like a
Speaker 1: sailer hasn't made a great movie in a while. This
Speaker 1: is really good. I really She thought Sandler was great.
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett had a major role in it. I watched
Speaker 1: Eight Crazy Nights on Monday, so that was my Adam
Speaker 1: Sandler experience. Great classic. There are a few that I
Speaker 1: have to watch everything a year to try and get
Speaker 1: myself in the spirit Eight Crazy Nights. Although I'm not Jewish,
Speaker 1: I do have celebrat Hanaka. It's still an awesome movie
Speaker 1: to watch around this time of You're hilarious movie. So
Speaker 1: that Die Hard obviously one of the best Christmas movies
Speaker 1: of all time. I wish Ey was here so that
Speaker 1: I can argue with him about it. Um yeah, classics
Speaker 1: Jingle all the Way to Jingle all the Way. We
Speaker 1: talked about it, and some one else was my friends
Speaker 1: has never seen Jingle all the Way in now Year
Speaker 1: of Living. My group text was going crazy because I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what underrated Christmas movie? Jingle all
Speaker 1: the Way? Like, it's not underrated, it's awesome, and I
Speaker 1: feel like everyone should know that it is great. It's amazing,
Speaker 1: It's one of the best Christmas movies. Great Christmas soundtrack.
Speaker 1: Sinbad is great in the movie as well. Awesome Arnold Arnold.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's kind of hard to take him seriously.
Speaker 1: It's like feeding the deer like beer later on in
Speaker 1: the movie. Did you watch um mother on the phone? Now?
Speaker 1: That's so good? Do you actually basketball? Asterner? I watched
Speaker 1: a ton of basketball. I I lost one bet. Speaking
Speaker 1: of betting responsibly, I I lost on the Bucks, didn't
Speaker 1: show up to what was that too much? And then uh,
Speaker 1: and then I bet on the Clippers, and you know,
Speaker 1: I was on the Clippers. I know you said on
Speaker 1: the clippery we were all on the Clippers, So I
Speaker 1: was on the I made it back with the Clippers.
Speaker 1: Thisterday ended up going one in one, but a lot
Speaker 1: of big upsets, and I thought overall the play was
Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, the first game the Raptors weren't there.
Speaker 1: They have a lot of injuries, obviously, And I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna start to work some more basketball talk into
Speaker 1: the show here. Uh, now that we get further away
Speaker 1: from football, obviously, we're still gonna talk about like the
Speaker 1: playoff games and and uh, you know, maybe like playoff
Speaker 1: Fantasy Survivor and you know, situations like that. So we'll
Speaker 1: get into playoff fantasy football obviously today, and we gotta
Speaker 1: talk a lot about what happened this season, a little
Speaker 1: bit of a look ahead to next year. We will
Speaker 1: work in some basketball talk. We'll take it into January
Speaker 1: some baseball as well. Tomorrow we'll look toward weeks seventeen.
Speaker 1: Assume right, sure, if you like, we can hit on
Speaker 1: some stuff like DFS plays. You got play your season
Speaker 1: long league in two weeks seventeen. Please, I'm begging you,
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Speaker 1: are made. Back here on the BFFs, Frank Stample, Greg
Speaker 1: Sussman hanging out with you and Frankie. I know on
Speaker 1: Tuesday show, I got through like the first half of
Speaker 1: the first round, kind of looking back on what we gave,
Speaker 1: what we did raw, and I was hoping we'll be
Speaker 1: able to kind of continue that today. Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all for you know, taking a look back
Speaker 1: at drafts early a DP, what went wrong, what we
Speaker 1: got wrong, which players busted the most, and try and
Speaker 1: learn from those mistakes. I think that you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of people, as soon as football ends, they kind
Speaker 1: of want to jump into the next four Well, let's
Speaker 1: start talking pastball, let's start talking baseball, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to those things for sure. We have a lot
Speaker 1: of time to talk basketball, to talk baseball in the
Speaker 1: month of January. February. Uh, pitchers and catchers don't report
Speaker 1: intil February as well. But I want to take this
Speaker 1: time to really reflect on what we got wrong in football,
Speaker 1: try and learn from it, try and figure out how
Speaker 1: we can become better next year. Um. And I think
Speaker 1: ultimately that will help make us better players. That will
Speaker 1: help make other people better fantasy players as well. So
Speaker 1: I think that makes a lot of sense. So I
Speaker 1: got to like the Deanandre Hopkins Davante Adams here um
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and that brought us to like five six essentially,
Speaker 1: which interesting by the way that James Connor wut of
Speaker 1: a five spot when it was all setting, which is like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. So I have nff C a DP
Speaker 1: pulled up for the month of August. I'm usually just
Speaker 1: I'm just a fantasy data Okay. I don't you know,
Speaker 1: use PPR should do it over here, so you can
Speaker 1: use whatever you like, Frank. So what I'm looking at
Speaker 1: here had James Conner right around pick eleven. So here
Speaker 1: it has Danta Adam Yandra Hopkins five six and Connor
Speaker 1: at seven. Yeah, but I mean that's where he was going,
Speaker 1: like mid to late first round. It doesn't matter where
Speaker 1: he went. It was busted and he was terrible. Yes. Um, So,
Speaker 1: whether you want to start with Connor, whether you want
Speaker 1: to start with the wide receivers, I'm going to pass that, alright,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I want to start with running back. Then
Speaker 1: our GST league fell and fell and fell and fell,
Speaker 1: and you weren't there, and as this guy was falling,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, what do I do? The
Speaker 1: name was David Johnson. He went one pick before us
Speaker 1: in that G S T league. We think James Conner
Speaker 1: neither was right, but at number ten in our league,
Speaker 1: number seven or eight or so in a DP, it's
Speaker 1: David Johnson. Why did David Johnson bust? Well, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of things that happened here. Obviously early on
Speaker 1: in the season, did not run efficiently. He was still
Speaker 1: catching touchdowns and he was used a lot in the
Speaker 1: past game, but injuries took over the fact that this
Speaker 1: team traded for Kenyan Drake. I don't know that David
Speaker 1: Johnson is the running back for Cliff Kingsbury, so you know,
Speaker 1: they give David Johnson that big extension. Whether or not
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury was on board with that, um, I'm not
Speaker 1: entirely sure. But for whatever reason, they trade for Kenyan
Speaker 1: Drake and Kenyan Drake ends up taking over, and even
Speaker 1: when David Johnson was healthy enough to play, was used sparingly.
Speaker 1: He was a backup. David Johnson was used as a
Speaker 1: handcuff to Kenyan Drake. So between all the injuries that
Speaker 1: David Johnson suffered from, and even when he was on
Speaker 1: the field, he didn't look great the elusiveness that we've
Speaker 1: seen before, the strength, um it, he was not the
Speaker 1: same player David Johnson. Clearly, you know, either was playing
Speaker 1: hurt or all these injuries have kind of added up
Speaker 1: to ultimately him just not being the player that he
Speaker 1: once was. Greg and that in that big year with
Speaker 1: Bruce arians um and he never really ran efficiently. He
Speaker 1: was always great in the past game, caught a bunch
Speaker 1: of passes, caught a bunch of touchdowns. But the fact
Speaker 1: that Kenyan Drake came in the injuries to David Johnson,
Speaker 1: He's gonna end up somewhere else. I don't think that
Speaker 1: he's gonna be back with this team, whether he's cut
Speaker 1: or traded, goes to Tampa Bay, goes to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: If he winds up in the right system, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get him at a discount next year, which could be
Speaker 1: profitable for fantasy football. But there were a lot of
Speaker 1: factors in play here for why David Johnson did not
Speaker 1: work out. David Johnson thinks, to me, he's really really interesting,
Speaker 1: and I look at it as being really nervous to
Speaker 1: be honest with you about him going forward. I get
Speaker 1: why you like him in Casey or Tampa Bay or
Speaker 1: something like that. Like I understand why the reasons like
Speaker 1: and why the reasons for the bounce back. But see
Speaker 1: what Kenyan Drake has done it in this offense with
Speaker 1: David Johnson was seemingly unable to do in the office.
Speaker 1: I think he's a red flag right like five, he
Speaker 1: was never really healthy, but that was just like three
Speaker 1: years on a row. He hasn't really been healthy, And
Speaker 1: I made the joke a lot with Josh Gordon. That
Speaker 1: when people come jumping in on Josh Gordon, jumping into
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon, and it it hasn't been good in like six years,
Speaker 1: and finally, like this year, people saw, all right, Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon isn't good anymore. I don't know if I want
Speaker 1: to go that forward David Johnson, but it's clear when
Speaker 1: this team acquired Kennyan Drake, like, all right, fine, David Johnson,
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds are hurt. I get it. But when they
Speaker 1: got healthy, okay, I understood going with the hot hand,
Speaker 1: But David Johnson is your guy, He's who are you paid?
Speaker 1: And he's still don't go back to him. I'm wondering
Speaker 1: what David Johnson is in the future. I don't know
Speaker 1: what does he have left in the tank? Basically right,
Speaker 1: So that was what I was gonna say. But like,
Speaker 1: he's still so young, and I it's it's well, he's
Speaker 1: not as young as you would think. Man. Old. He
Speaker 1: came in the league later than most people realize. I
Speaker 1: believe he played four years in college, so you know,
Speaker 1: he came into the league later than most people expected.
Speaker 1: And he's now twenty eight years old, so he doesn't
Speaker 1: have as much where as other people, he only has
Speaker 1: one season, that one great season where he had two
Speaker 1: hundred ninety three rushing attempts, had eighty receptions, he had
Speaker 1: twenty total touchdowns. Uh in eighteen. Last year he did
Speaker 1: have two hundred and fifty eight rushing attempts, but at
Speaker 1: its three point six yards per carry, it was a
Speaker 1: terrible season for him. Right in that Mike McCoy led
Speaker 1: offense for the Arizona Cardinals. So I think it's a
Speaker 1: good point that you bring up. Right, Kenyan Drake plays
Speaker 1: within the same system, comes in, He's running well, shows
Speaker 1: off his explosiveness. The offensive line didn't look nearly as
Speaker 1: bad with Kenyan Drake running behind it as David Johnson did.
Speaker 1: They used him in the past game. Kenyan Drake was
Speaker 1: a full on workhorse and he performed in that role.
Speaker 1: We already saw when David Johnson was playing that Chase
Speaker 1: Edmonds was starting to eat into his workload as well.
Speaker 1: So I think you're onto something there. Um, it's a
Speaker 1: fair question how much does David Johnson have left in
Speaker 1: the tank. I think that if he goes into a
Speaker 1: system where he is the lead running back for a
Speaker 1: team where he sees fifteen plus touches, like the fact
Speaker 1: that he hasn't been efficient, he'll be able to overcome
Speaker 1: that if he's a work course. Obviously a lot of
Speaker 1: running backs do, Leonard Fournett for example. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's fair to question where David Johnson's talent is
Speaker 1: at this point in his career. At we'll see. That's
Speaker 1: why I just want to make sure what can we
Speaker 1: learn from it? Though? Right? Like just tweeted and he
Speaker 1: spelled my name wrong. Well, I retweeted it. I did
Speaker 1: it over again. Right, you didn't delete this tweet though
Speaker 1: I believe I did seeing it all my timeline, Frank, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe you need to refresh your timeline, Greg, because I'm
Speaker 1: looking at my Twitter right now and I redid it
Speaker 1: and I spelled it correctly. Money. Try Is there anything
Speaker 1: that we can learn from David Johnson? Like, was there
Speaker 1: anything coming in that we could have said? So? Why
Speaker 1: did he drop a G S day? I don't know
Speaker 1: because in high stakes draft he was still going in
Speaker 1: the middle of that first round that he was going
Speaker 1: pick four or five six. Everyone you know, wanted to
Speaker 1: everyone who wanted to drap they running back early. I
Speaker 1: wanted David Johnson in a full PPR format because you
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna catch passes at the least a
Speaker 1: tempo offense. With Cliff Kingsbury, you knew that they were
Speaker 1: going to run a ton of plays, which they did.
Speaker 1: It's so I was not hesitant. I've never had an
Speaker 1: opportunity at him, but I was hesitant at him because
Speaker 1: of Cliff Kingsbury's usage um of running back in college
Speaker 1: when we saw him as a head coach that like,
Speaker 1: you knew they would play fast. But how much would
Speaker 1: he use David Johnson? It would be a lot of shotgun.
Speaker 1: How successful is he in the shotgun? They could use
Speaker 1: him as a receiver as much as were of the the past.
Speaker 1: Like those are the questions I had about him. And
Speaker 1: again the system wasn't the problem, as we have now
Speaker 1: seen with Kennyan Drake. Like all the reasons we didn't
Speaker 1: like people didn't like David Johnson had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with David Johnson. It was the system and the system
Speaker 1: was fine. That's what scares me again him at the players.
Speaker 1: So to ask your question of what can we learn,
Speaker 1: uh huh. I think the fact that he has been
Speaker 1: hurt as much as he has in recent years. He
Speaker 1: did play sixteen games last year, he was hurt this year.
Speaker 1: He only played one game the year before that. I mean,
Speaker 1: the guy has been banged up. I think you can
Speaker 1: take that away from this and the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: he hasn't really been running efficiently the past couple of seasons,
Speaker 1: so maybe we should have looked into that more. We
Speaker 1: knew that this was not gonna be a great offensive
Speaker 1: line coming in, but we thought that the volume here again,
Speaker 1: I'll bring up the name Leonard Fournette. Fournette is not
Speaker 1: an efficient runner, but he got so much work both
Speaker 1: on the ground and as a receiver that he was
Speaker 1: still able to pay off from a fantasy perspective. And
Speaker 1: I think that's how I looked at it coming in
Speaker 1: for David Johnson. I remember saying those exact words that
Speaker 1: the volume for David Johnson was going to outweigh his
Speaker 1: UH inefficiency. So I thought that David Johnson can kind
Speaker 1: of put up a similar season what Leonard Fournette did.
Speaker 1: But it just seemed like the injuries piled on Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury UH really does not like the player David Johnson
Speaker 1: UM and someone like Kenyan Drake was better for his system.
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, Greg, So, I think what we can
Speaker 1: learn from it is someone who is banged up the
Speaker 1: past couple of years, someone who has not been an
Speaker 1: efficient player, kind a bad offensive line. You know, take
Speaker 1: all those things into account when you're drafting running back
Speaker 1: in the first round. Obviously, yeah, absolutely, and the leondfer stuff.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be at that today, probably because of where
Speaker 1: he went. But like that went wrong? You didn't you
Speaker 1: like the Leonard from No Where that I did? No,
Speaker 1: I mean I started moving him up, but I didn't
Speaker 1: draft Leonard fort anywhere. It's not like, you know, I
Speaker 1: wasn't pounding the table telling people to take Leonard Fournette.
Speaker 1: I was worth everything we just said about David Johnson.
Speaker 1: You can say the same thing about Leonard Fournette. But
Speaker 1: he managed to stay healthy. It worked absolutely, So I mean, look,
Speaker 1: this is this is a good, you know kind of
Speaker 1: comparing contrast. They were both similar situations. One worked and
Speaker 1: one didn't. The first round breakdown continues right after This
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Speaker 1: are made. Okay, Frankie let's tie the David Johnson conversation
Speaker 1: with the bow let me move want to be on
Speaker 1: the running back of the un in this tier is
Speaker 1: David Johnson, James Conner and I was always James Conner guy,
Speaker 1: and Lebian Bell lady On Bell was the third running
Speaker 1: back in that conversation. And my response to you always
Speaker 1: with Jets office life sucks. It's a bad and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's really bad. Did I ever say that we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go to the tape. We can find the tape,
Speaker 1: that's easy. So lady On Bell in his first and
Speaker 1: the only season with the Jets probably disappointment. Ultimately, he
Speaker 1: played every game or every year but one when he
Speaker 1: was bowling instead, and he finished this season's rbif pr
Speaker 1: RB fifteen, so he just outside the RB one's here
Speaker 1: RB nineteen in points per game. What went wrong with
Speaker 1: lady On Bello this year? A lot of it is
Speaker 1: the same as David Johnson, outside of the health of
Speaker 1: the fact that the system was not conducive to running
Speaker 1: backs being great for fantasy Shout out to Adam Gaze,
Speaker 1: thank you for that. Uh, you don't know how to
Speaker 1: use one of the best receiving running backs in the
Speaker 1: NFL really not that hard. But the offensive line didn't
Speaker 1: help things, Greg, I mean three point three yards per carry.
Speaker 1: Not that Levian Bell was. He's not really one of
Speaker 1: the better efficient running backs, right. I mean, his value
Speaker 1: even when he was with Pittsburgh was catching the football
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. The fact that you know, when
Speaker 1: this guy would play full seasons, we're talking about someone
Speaker 1: who catched over seventy over eighty passes in a season.
Speaker 1: This year he does have sixty one receptions. A lot
Speaker 1: of that was front loaded early on, in the first
Speaker 1: month of the season, he was being used as a receiver, uh,
Speaker 1: and then they got away from that. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's just on Adam Gaze. I know, midway
Speaker 1: point in the season, when the offense started playing better,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald started contributing to the play calling more. He
Speaker 1: told Adam Gaze what he wanted to do, and then
Speaker 1: we saw, you know, a spike in Robby Anderson's production.
Speaker 1: Crowder started bouncing back even the tight ends are being used.
Speaker 1: So maybe a little bit of that was on Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: But ultimately the system Adam Gaze was not great this year.
Speaker 1: For Levian Bell's usage, the offensive line was god awful.
Speaker 1: The offense in general was not really a great one
Speaker 1: there once again running the fewest plays in the NFL
Speaker 1: in terms of volume here with Adam Gaze and the Jets.
Speaker 1: So I think more than anything, it's the system, the
Speaker 1: offensive line, and the offense all being bad. It wasn't health,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I don't think it's Levan Bell has lost
Speaker 1: the step. You know, he sat out of season. I
Speaker 1: think it really just has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: playing for the New York Jets. I do believe that.
Speaker 1: I think if he was on Pittsburgh again this year,
Speaker 1: he's probably a top ten, top eight running back for fantasy,
Speaker 1: maybe even better than that. He's just playing all of
Speaker 1: it on Adam Gaze, I think so. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: don't think that that's a cop out. I think it's
Speaker 1: actually fair criticism, so that a lot of it falls
Speaker 1: on Gaze. For sure. We saw him his in ability
Speaker 1: to use Kenny Drake obviously with Dolphins. Um what about
Speaker 1: the fact that Bell just didn't play football last year.
Speaker 1: Did he lose a step in that time? I don't
Speaker 1: think so, because for a lot of this here, like
Speaker 1: he was still giving it as all against the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: You know, a couple of weeks ago on Thursday I Football.
Speaker 1: He ran well in that game, actually ran efficiently that
Speaker 1: that was the season high in terms of rushing yardage
Speaker 1: over eight yards against a good defense. So he was
Speaker 1: still playing hard. He's still breaking a lot of tackles,
Speaker 1: but a lot of the times, remember his style is
Speaker 1: he's he's a patient runner. He was behind one of
Speaker 1: the better offensive lines when he was in Pittsburgh. So no,
Speaker 1: his play style with the Jets offensive line, which is
Speaker 1: not a good one, just didn't really work out for him.
Speaker 1: I still think that Levian Bell has a lot left
Speaker 1: in the tank. I think that he's still a good receiver. Uh.
Speaker 1: He proved that he had a few contested catches earlier
Speaker 1: on in the season. I think he can still play.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is based on the system,
Speaker 1: offensive line, and the Jets. He's back with the Jets
Speaker 1: next year. He finished, as you said, the fifteenth overall
Speaker 1: running back of PDR leagues. Most likely scenarios he's back
Speaker 1: with the Jets, although of course there's a lot of
Speaker 1: reporters that are saying he will not vague. I don't
Speaker 1: think he will you know, I still think it remains
Speaker 1: the most likely scenario. Do you think because of the contract, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's harder to trade. Yeah, yeah, it's not that it's
Speaker 1: not easy to trade. But like a team like the
Speaker 1: Chiefs for example, like they still have Patrick Mahomes on
Speaker 1: that rookie contract, correct, so they could take on that
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell money, I think Frank Clark. So, I
Speaker 1: don't know the Chief's calf situation, but everything's manipulated. It
Speaker 1: would be manipulated. So with all that being said, what
Speaker 1: do you take them next year? So we've been talking
Speaker 1: a lot about the Aaron Jones group of running back
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, and I think with Aaron Jones performance this
Speaker 1: past week that pushed him up draft boards heading into
Speaker 1: next year as well, it's probably closer to a borderline
Speaker 1: first early second round pick for Aaron Jones. I think
Speaker 1: Bell goes in that Gurly range, late second early third
Speaker 1: round pick, maybe a little bit later than that, maybe
Speaker 1: even just a solid third round pick, early to mid
Speaker 1: third round pick. But I think now once you get
Speaker 1: past those top twelve running backs, I think he's likely
Speaker 1: drafted as a high nd RB two, assuming that he
Speaker 1: is back with the Jets. If he ends up somewhere
Speaker 1: else in a better situation, obviously like the Chiefs one
Speaker 1: of the best offenses in the league. I think that
Speaker 1: likely makes him a mid to late first round pick
Speaker 1: once again heading into next year. But with the Jets,
Speaker 1: probably an early to mid third round pick. A huge difference, dude,
Speaker 1: and in the first round, the middle of the third
Speaker 1: your situation there that matters enough for Levion Bell. We
Speaker 1: just saw it. I mean, if that's Adam is gonna
Speaker 1: be back, that's not gonna change. They're gonna, I hope,
Speaker 1: address the offensive line if they If they don't, then
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas should be the next GM gone, you know,
Speaker 1: within the first couple of seasons here with the Jets,
Speaker 1: because it's very clear that they need to upgrade the
Speaker 1: offensive line. I think they'll do that, you know, whether
Speaker 1: it's through free agency, through the draft, um. But ultimately
Speaker 1: the system hasn't been great for him. So if he's
Speaker 1: back with the Jets, I think he's probably an early
Speaker 1: third round pick. Let me move on, Frank and get
Speaker 1: to the next guy. You're noticing a theme here, Greig.
Speaker 1: The top twelve running backs rearly drafted here basically half
Speaker 1: of them busted. Levian Bell, James Conner, David Johnson. I
Speaker 1: would even consider Alvin Kamara bust season. Say Kwan Barkley
Speaker 1: a bust, and then you look at the rest of
Speaker 1: the names that are in this mix. Joe Mason was
Speaker 1: not great for a large majority the season. Damian Williams
Speaker 1: came in at RB twelve. No, I'm just saying, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the top twelve running backs drafted and basically
Speaker 1: half of them were bust. So looking early round, running
Speaker 1: back can win you a league. Christian McCaffrey, Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: was fine, Nick Chubb was great, Dalvin Cook was great.
Speaker 1: These guys can win you leagues. They touched the ball
Speaker 1: more than any other player in the NFL. It's still
Speaker 1: a risky position, man, no matter how which way you
Speaker 1: want to slice it, it is a risky position. Greg
Speaker 1: The next guys in the first round that went off
Speaker 1: the board weren't running backs. They were wide receivers. Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas and Julio Jones. They had good years, rank and
Speaker 1: they had great years. Where do you take them next year?
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is going to be a top three or
Speaker 1: four pick. He will be will he be taking before Jackson.
Speaker 1: I'm sure people are going to There's gonna be people
Speaker 1: on both sides. I know that you're probably one that
Speaker 1: is going to lean with Lamar Jackson there, and everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna make the argument, well, Lamar Jackson was drafted outside
Speaker 1: the top twelve quarterbacks. A lot of the quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: actually performed this year and finished inside the top twelve
Speaker 1: were drafted outside of the top twelve in terms of ADP.
Speaker 1: The Josh Allen's, the Jameis Winston's, the Lamar Jackson's obviously
Speaker 1: of the world. So they're gonna make the argument, well,
Speaker 1: you can try and find that quarterback again next year,
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback late like they always do, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna say, I want this safe, steady production at one
Speaker 1: of the skill positions, which will be Michael Thomas, and
Speaker 1: I probably lean in that category as well. So I
Speaker 1: think Michael Thomas a top three or four pick, and
Speaker 1: it is warranted. He deserves to be so drew in
Speaker 1: his quarterback Uh, you know, you have to go back
Speaker 1: and look at the production in games that he played
Speaker 1: with with um Teddy Bridgewater. I do think, you know,
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater would be the starting quarterback for the Saints
Speaker 1: if Drew Brees is gone. But remember every week we
Speaker 1: talked about the consistency out of Michael Thomas, consistently putting
Speaker 1: up receptions in yards. He didn't really have a down
Speaker 1: game this year. A lot of those games came with
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater as well. So if Teddy is there, maybe
Speaker 1: your downgrade Michael Thomas a little bit. But even if
Speaker 1: Bridgewaterson's quarterback, I can't see him slipping past pick five
Speaker 1: or six. It's Julio your second wide receiver off the
Speaker 1: board heading into next year. Um, if he's not second,
Speaker 1: he's close to it. I think DeAndre Hopkins, the the
Speaker 1: town level is still there for him. He got off
Speaker 1: to a slow start, but the second half of the
Speaker 1: year was really really good. With for DeAndre Hopkins finishes
Speaker 1: the season as the fourth wide receiver is the standards
Speaker 1: in PPR leagues he finished, He's currently nine points beyond
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, playing one game less on it points for
Speaker 1: a game basis, Julio Jones was better than DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: in full PPR. I still lean with Hopkins Hopkins too,
Speaker 1: but the obvious question is the guy that is ahead
Speaker 1: of both of them, Frankie. In this year's ranking, that's
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin. Godwin finishes his season with eighty six catches,
Speaker 1: over hundred yards receiving, and nine touchdowns. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know who their quarterback will be. UM. Personally, I think
Speaker 1: it will be Jamis Winston. Once again, I think either
Speaker 1: gets tagged or I just don't know that the answer
Speaker 1: for the Bucks at this point in time. Although Bruce
Speaker 1: arians might want to bring in his own guy through
Speaker 1: the draft or free agency, or you're bringing a Cam
Speaker 1: Newton or whatever it might be. Um, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna go with what they know, and they've talked up
Speaker 1: Jameis Winson, so I think he'll be back there. It's
Speaker 1: very bad, very good from a fantasy perspective. Shore He's
Speaker 1: He's right, He's a guy. He's gonna throw three touchdowns
Speaker 1: at three interceptions. That's what he does. Yeah. So, uh,
Speaker 1: Godwin nine touchdowns on this season. Both he and Evans
Speaker 1: were very good. Not as consistent as you would hope
Speaker 1: because one time one guy has a game, one time
Speaker 1: the other other good game. Because God when the first
Speaker 1: round pick next year, I think he is a borderline.
Speaker 1: I think he's at the back end of the first round,
Speaker 1: maybe early second round pick, and you don't think you're
Speaker 1: gonna change depending on who the quarterback is. But uh,
Speaker 1: the spike weeks for whether it was Guy Win or Evans,
Speaker 1: I mean, those are monsters, especially if you play in
Speaker 1: best ball, Like if Winston is the quarterback, you just
Speaker 1: want exposures so much passing volume, he throws the ball
Speaker 1: down the field. Uh. They put Godwin in a great
Speaker 1: position to succeed this year lining up in the slot more. Uh,
Speaker 1: they were using him in that Larry Fitzgerald's role from
Speaker 1: this Bruce Arians offense from when he was with the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: and it was conducive to a great season again he was.
Speaker 1: He's currently the wide receiver to only playing fourteen games.
Speaker 1: He didn't play last week. He's still wide receiver two overall.
Speaker 1: He's wide receiver two overall in fantasy points per game. Personally,
Speaker 1: I would lean with the Hopkins and Julio just because
Speaker 1: they've done it longer, more consistent quarterbacks away. But I
Speaker 1: think once you get past those, guys like Chris Godwin
Speaker 1: and Mike Evans are very clearly going to be inside
Speaker 1: the top five, top six seven of wide receivers drafted
Speaker 1: late first round picks, early second round picks. You have
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, and I'll lean with Godwin. I think he's
Speaker 1: the more versatile player. You move him more around the field.
Speaker 1: He's He's certainly more consistent than Evans. Evan has higher
Speaker 1: upside on a weekly basis. But give me the safer player.
Speaker 1: That's Chris Cottoman, interesting inter using stuff. The quarterback obviously
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Speaker 1: Michael's Hell Fregg, you got a question for me during
Speaker 1: the break? Yeah, I think it's interesting to kind of
Speaker 1: pitt the Bucks wide receivers up against Davanta Adams, because
Speaker 1: I think they're all gonna be in a similar range
Speaker 1: heading into next year. You know, Devanta Adams was a
Speaker 1: dud earlier on in the season. You know, he was
Speaker 1: still seeing targets, he was catching balls, he was you know,
Speaker 1: he had the yards there, but did not score a
Speaker 1: touchdown until late in the season. He was so safe
Speaker 1: for touchdowns in the past couple of seasons. And you know,
Speaker 1: La Fleur comes in here as the head coach of
Speaker 1: the Packers Greg and changes this offense where they don't
Speaker 1: really rely on Aaron Rodgers as much. The defense plays better,
Speaker 1: so they don't really find themselves in negative game scripts
Speaker 1: where they need to be throwing the ball as much.
Speaker 1: The volume obviously leans with the Bucks, but you might
Speaker 1: get more consistency out of a Davantae Adams, who is
Speaker 1: clearly the go to guy for Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.
Speaker 1: So I kind of just leave it open ended. I
Speaker 1: think it's a fair question. I think they're all gonna
Speaker 1: go in a similar range next year, you know, late
Speaker 1: first round range. But between the Bucks wide receivers and
Speaker 1: Devanta Adams, which way would you lean? So for me,
Speaker 1: it's really tough because Davante Adams, you saw what the
Speaker 1: goods the good is of him in week sixteen, right
Speaker 1: thirteen catches a hundred billion yards and get in the
Speaker 1: end zone. But like that's the best you can get
Speaker 1: out of Davante Adams. But the amount of the Packers
Speaker 1: throw really scared man scares and Mat Lafleur is the
Speaker 1: head coach with this offense. They want to run the
Speaker 1: football and they already running football team. I know Davante
Speaker 1: Adams was hoveringbots to injury pretty much all season. The
Speaker 1: books as currently constructed or not, They're going with you,
Speaker 1: Chuck and Chuck and Chuck and Chuck. That is Bruce Arians.
Speaker 1: That will always for Sara vbrus Arians. You and I
Speaker 1: have talked a lot over the past two or three
Speaker 1: years now, Frank, since we've been doing this about learning
Speaker 1: and learning about coaches and learning about styles and using
Speaker 1: that to our advantage. From what I know from his
Speaker 1: time at Tennessee to his time at Green Bay. Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur is not a vertical coach. He wants to run
Speaker 1: the football and use game control and a good defense
Speaker 1: and manage the game. For that reason, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the quantity. I'm gonna take Chris Godwin, gonna take god
Speaker 1: Would you take Mike Evans as well over Davonta Adams?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Do you know it's crazy? I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the targets right here for Davontae Adams that
Speaker 1: hasn't been an issue since he's returned eleven, ten, twelve, ten, six, thirteen,
Speaker 1: and sixteen targets. So he has double digit targets in
Speaker 1: every game but one since returning from injury. You're right.
Speaker 1: They definitely want to play better defense. They want to
Speaker 1: run the ball more. Aaron Jones has been great this
Speaker 1: year with the under the floor, you know, scoring touchdowns,
Speaker 1: catching passes. Uh. They they did don't want to rely
Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers as much. But when Aaron Rodgers needs
Speaker 1: to pass the ball, every team is going to have
Speaker 1: to pass the ball. Vante is a guy like they
Speaker 1: don't really have a number two options. Jimmy Graham is
Speaker 1: washed up. Lazard is fine. They take a few deep
Speaker 1: shops with him per game. MVS has not worked out
Speaker 1: this year. I remember that debating MVS or Jona Austin.
Speaker 1: How about none for the season. I said it on
Speaker 1: Tuesday's show, how I was between MVS and Geronimo my
Speaker 1: auction So so I like both right, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people were taking both Steelers wide receivers as well,
Speaker 1: Moncrief and James Washington, and a lot of people were
Speaker 1: also just pairing up the Steelers and James Conner and Jiujiah.
Speaker 1: We did that, sure, Okay, I think I would lean
Speaker 1: with Adams, though, I think I would take Adams over
Speaker 1: the Yeah, okay, the target volumes still different when they
Speaker 1: throw the ball, they throw it. He's yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that about it. He is talented. Cushion issues obviously, this
Speaker 1: Towe issue, it's annoying. Um at the end of the
Speaker 1: first round that wrap round depending on who you would take.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned Jujus miss Schuster on Tuesday. We just
Speaker 1: mentioned him. Now, the other wide receiver that was really
Speaker 1: in that range he was talked about O'Dell on Tuesday
Speaker 1: was Tyreek Hill. That's Tyreek Hill got injured in the
Speaker 1: first quarter of the first game, missed a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of time early, and then came back and pretty much
Speaker 1: was Tyreek Hill again. I feel like, kind of just
Speaker 1: looking at it, Tyreek Hill probably goes around the same
Speaker 1: spot next year, right, Yeah, late first round, early second round.
Speaker 1: I saw some like super early mox where that's where
Speaker 1: he does end up going. Have no problem with him
Speaker 1: in that spot, had no problem with him as a
Speaker 1: first round He's writing this mix with Adams and the
Speaker 1: Bucks wide receivers, they're all gonna be the first with
Speaker 1: doing it again. I'm commament Tyreek Hill. I like Tyree Hill.
Speaker 1: I thought you got in a little bit of discount
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, I'm he did his job for
Speaker 1: me this year. Yeah, I would say that that is fair.
Speaker 1: You know, outside of the injury, which sucks because when
Speaker 1: he was on the field, he's been pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill has been here. Uh not as many touchdowns
Speaker 1: as you've hoped. He still has been a little bit
Speaker 1: boom or bust. So you look at like the past
Speaker 1: four games, for example, he's only scored in one of
Speaker 1: those games. He did score two touchdowns back in Week fifteen,
Speaker 1: but last week five for seventy two in Week fourteen
Speaker 1: six for sixty two. The Chief's offense hasn't been as
Speaker 1: dynamic this year because Patrick Mahomes has been banged up.
Speaker 1: But next year, I think, you know, there'll be a
Speaker 1: little bit of a buying opportunity here for Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: where you know, Patrick Mahomes can use this offseason to
Speaker 1: get healthy and we've seen what Patrick Mahomes is capable
Speaker 1: of what his upside can be. And based on that upside,
Speaker 1: obviously Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey are his go to receivers.
Speaker 1: That is not going to change. There is not a
Speaker 1: number two wide receiver on this team to speak of.
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is that guy, but like Sammy Watkins is
Speaker 1: not great at this point in his career. DeMarcus Robinson
Speaker 1: is who he is, McCole hardman. They'll take a few
Speaker 1: deep shots per game. Tyree Hill is undoubtedly the guy,
Speaker 1: and I actually think that based on how this season
Speaker 1: has gone, uh and this past month, depending on what
Speaker 1: he does in the playoffs, because if he blows up,
Speaker 1: you know people are gonna remember that. But if he doesn't,
Speaker 1: I think that creates a little bit of a buying
Speaker 1: opportunity here for Tyree Hill and the Chief's offense as
Speaker 1: a whole. Listen, I'm backing on the Chiefs, Mini Mahomes
Speaker 1: men on Tyreek Hill. No issue there. You mentioned Danny
Speaker 1: Williams a few moments ago. I think it'll be interesting
Speaker 1: to see what they do it running back. I think
Speaker 1: we will assume they're not gonna stay pat right, They're
Speaker 1: gonna do something. I think, um, there's just too many
Speaker 1: people available, whether it's David Johnson and leviyan Bel via
Speaker 1: trade drafting or running back with DeAndre Swift or signing
Speaker 1: a moment and Drake potentially signing one of those guys,
Speaker 1: So definitely a lot of names to pay attention to
Speaker 1: their Um, Kareem Hunt will end up somewhere, not back
Speaker 1: with Kansasy. I think that's safe to say. I think
Speaker 1: that's safe to say as well. Let's move on, Frank
Speaker 1: to the other running mats that were taking around this spot.
Speaker 1: Two guys that had really good years was Nick Chubb
Speaker 1: and Dalvin Cook. Uh. Nick Chubb, I'll start with him
Speaker 1: because I owned Nick Schubb for longer than I owned
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, and I think when Nick Chubb was the
Speaker 1: volume was there obviously led the League of Russian going
Speaker 1: into this past week. Well, Kareem Hunt came aboard. It
Speaker 1: changed everything, right, He didn't play third downs anymore, he
Speaker 1: didn't catch passes anymore, and it really sucked his value
Speaker 1: in PVR leaves. And it's very, very frustrating. Now. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen with Kareem Hunt next year.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen with the coaching staff
Speaker 1: next year. I think Nick Chubb was really really good,
Speaker 1: but I can tell you as a Chubb owner, that
Speaker 1: was really frustrating and more frustrating than I hope they
Speaker 1: wouldn't be. Yeah, and this was a huge topic of
Speaker 1: conversation throughout draft season. There was a lot of people
Speaker 1: who didn't want Nick Chubb because they were like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: when you get to the Fantasy Football playoffs in the championship,
Speaker 1: and Nick Chubb is not going to be um, He's
Speaker 1: not gonna be seeing the same workload as he did
Speaker 1: earlier on in the see reason. Well, they were right
Speaker 1: about him busting in the Fantasy Football Championship. It certainly
Speaker 1: wasn't due to volume reasons, because he still saw fifteen
Speaker 1: carries in Week sixteen. But yeah, we spoked about this
Speaker 1: on Monday. He was one of the bigger letdowns in
Speaker 1: the Championship. But look at the games before that. I
Speaker 1: mean a hundred and twenty seven yards and a rushing
Speaker 1: touchdown against the Cardinals in Week fifteen. Uh, he didn't
Speaker 1: see as many carries later on in the season with
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt there, certainly didn't see the targets of receptions.
Speaker 1: He is capable of catching the ball. We know that
Speaker 1: now because there was there was some question marks about
Speaker 1: his receiving role coming into the season. The first two
Speaker 1: months of the year. Great they used him as a receiver.
Speaker 1: You know, you would get where he wound up with
Speaker 1: his UH, with his receiving or seven targets, thirty five catches,
Speaker 1: two d and seventy seven receiving yards, you don't want
Speaker 1: that to be better out of your your early round
Speaker 1: running back. But again, when he does on the ground,
Speaker 1: UH certainly makes up for that. He leads the league
Speaker 1: in rushing attempts. UH. He leads the league in rushing
Speaker 1: yards as well, fourteen hundred and fifty three rushing yards. So,
Speaker 1: assuming Kareem Hunt is gone, I think Nick Chubb is
Speaker 1: gonna be in the mix as a top five pick,
Speaker 1: top five six pick heading into next year with no
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. I think that that's warranted. Are you taking
Speaker 1: him ahead or after Cook? I would take assumming Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt is gone, I would take Nick Chubb ahead of
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, and I think that they should go in
Speaker 1: and in that same range. I think that they're both
Speaker 1: gonna be top five, top six face just because he's
Speaker 1: been healthier in his career. You know, Dalvin Cook probably
Speaker 1: a more dynamic player overall. They certainly use him more
Speaker 1: in the pass game than the Browns used Nick Chubb. UM,
Speaker 1: but he has been more injury prone. We've seen that
Speaker 1: now basically every year that he's been in the carew
Speaker 1: in in the NFL, he's missed long stretches of time
Speaker 1: now dealing with the shoulder injury. Chubb has just been
Speaker 1: healthier and because of that, I think they're both gonna
Speaker 1: be great. But you're splitting hairs. I would lean with
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb for the health reason over Dalvin Cook. What's
Speaker 1: say you? Maybe my leans probably Dalvin Cook. I think
Speaker 1: this is a um A coach, and he's like I
Speaker 1: think Freddy Kitchen is the joke. I know he wanted.
Speaker 1: He's giving the ball and Nick up a billion times,
Speaker 1: and that's that's what I think about this. Nick tub
Speaker 1: was great this year, even with Freddy Kitch. So I
Speaker 1: just like Minnesota and their style what they do. They
Speaker 1: love that smash mound. They want to run the football.
Speaker 1: They don't want to leave it in the hands of
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, who sucks, so they leave down the cook. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Alexander Madison's there, He's going to take away some opportunities.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be annoying every once in a while. I think,
Speaker 1: great now my leans downin cook. I don't know that
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a wrong answer. I think both are
Speaker 1: gonna be very popular. And I will have this conversation
Speaker 1: in April and I'll well, you disgard everything I'm saying now.
Speaker 1: Right now I'm saying, don't cook sure fair enough? So
Speaker 1: that really kind of it is. She's out like the
Speaker 1: first round of guy. You know, Dvin Coops were early
Speaker 1: second round, but like kind of finishes it out. So
Speaker 1: let me go into round two. You think Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: already on Tuesday you mentioned if Coleman was going Joe
Speaker 1: make him and Joe Mixon is a really interesting one too,
Speaker 1: because Joe Mixon was a guy that started in that UM,
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, David Johnson, James Connor, like he
Speaker 1: was there with those guys what it was all said
Speaker 1: and done. He went in the middle of the second round.
Speaker 1: Joe Mason end of the season pretty strong. We're a
Speaker 1: new with a new quarterback, hopefully a better offensive line.
Speaker 1: What do think about Joe Mixon next year? Joe makes
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an interesting one to figure out. And
Speaker 1: I had Nick Arcolano on midway through the season. I
Speaker 1: believe you know, you were getting ready for your wedding
Speaker 1: whatever it might be great after I got married, maybe,
Speaker 1: uh and um, we were talking about dynasty byloads. And
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon obviously was a very popular one on the
Speaker 1: early part of the season because he's still super young.
Speaker 1: We know what he's capable of. He is someone that
Speaker 1: can handle a full workload, and as the season went on,
Speaker 1: they started to give him that workload. He's a better
Speaker 1: pass catcher than they've actually used him as during this
Speaker 1: season with the Cincinnati Bengals and really his career, he's
Speaker 1: a really good pass catcher. He has everything that you
Speaker 1: want in a workhorse running back, Greig. The talent is there,
Speaker 1: the draft pedigree is there. The offensive line is going
Speaker 1: to get better next year. Jonah Williams is gonna return.
Speaker 1: He was the first round pick of this year's draft
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, and I think overall, their offense is
Speaker 1: gonna be better. No, Joe Burrow is gonna come in here.
Speaker 1: They're gonna draft him first overall, and I think, yes,
Speaker 1: there'll be some growing pains for a rookie quarterback, but
Speaker 1: he has shown a lot at the collegiate level. Greg
Speaker 1: and I think that there is reason to be excited
Speaker 1: about this offense overall, and Joe Mixon and the really
Speaker 1: this workload that he has received under Zach Taylor, that
Speaker 1: a rookie head coach here later on in the season,
Speaker 1: and because of that, he will be a popular pick
Speaker 1: come next year. I think that he is going to
Speaker 1: go ahead of some of these other names like Girly
Speaker 1: and Levion Bella. I think he's gonna be more of
Speaker 1: a mid second round pick. I think around Levian mel
Speaker 1: makes sense. I think every other thing Mixing and Miles
Speaker 1: Sanders are gonna go like in the same in the
Speaker 1: same range we went through the first round and we
Speaker 1: didn't name Miles Sanders. Well, we were going over the
Speaker 1: first round of this year. Your traps, do you? I
Speaker 1: think all the names outside of David Johnson, I guess,
Speaker 1: you know what, as a silly statement, because Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: will go behind Dalvin Cook, behind Nick Chub, He'll go
Speaker 1: behind take On Barkley, will go behind Christian mccaffree, will
Speaker 1: go behind Alvin Camara, hin Zekie Elliott. That's six. I
Speaker 1: just named right there. He's gonna go. Those players will
Speaker 1: be first round players still as well. I agree then
Speaker 1: also first round players. You have Michael Thomas is a
Speaker 1: lock that's seven. You have DeAndre Hopkins a lock that's eight.
Speaker 1: You have Julio Jones a lot that's nine. Maybe Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna say I would take Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: head him. That's there are a lot of people that
Speaker 1: are going to agree with that. It's not a crazy standard.
Speaker 1: So that's that's ten. I think that's ten strong. I
Speaker 1: think after that, I mean, you could get into Devon Adams,
Speaker 1: you can get into Tamba guys, and you're get into
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon, right, I think that's Derrick Hennery is a
Speaker 1: really interesting name too, like it will be a late
Speaker 1: first round pick. Ye will be yes, he will be
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry over Joe Mixon. Um, that's a close call.
Speaker 1: That's a close called. Probably would lean with Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: If Ryan tadd Hills back some consistency year over year
Speaker 1: offense looked great. Um under Riots tattle Hill. Once he
Speaker 1: took over A J. Brown, Everyone's gonna be excited about
Speaker 1: next year. John Nu Smith. We know what Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: is capable of. The monster workload here. Doesn't catch the
Speaker 1: ball in the backfield, but the rushing yardage is gonna
Speaker 1: be there. The rushing touches, uh, the his usage in
Speaker 1: the red zone, that's all gonna be there for Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: So I think it's close, But as of now, I
Speaker 1: would lean Derrick Henry over Joe Makeson heading into I
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Speaker 1: up with three questions in three minutes. Frank, question number one,
Speaker 1: and I brought it up a lot to you in
Speaker 1: the past week or two. Will you make Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: a top five pick? In personally, I will not not
Speaker 1: nine a one quarterback league. And I'll let you expand
Speaker 1: on this a little bit as well, because I know
Speaker 1: you feel more strongly about it. I put out a
Speaker 1: poll before the show asking where do people think Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson should go next year, and of the vote, current
Speaker 1: leading vote getter says second round for Lamar Jackson in
Speaker 1: a one quarterback league and a super flex. There's no
Speaker 1: doubt he is either the the first overall pick or
Speaker 1: the second overall pick behind to McCaffrey. But in a
Speaker 1: one quarterback league, I will not be selecting Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: in the first round. How about you. I will be
Speaker 1: selecting Lamar and Jackson the first round. As I said,
Speaker 1: just is rushing alone, which I'll read see you now.
Speaker 1: He had twelve hundred rushing yards and seven touchdowns. There,
Speaker 1: harb one, folks. He is six in the NFL in
Speaker 1: rushing yards overall. Okay, pretty crazy. So they'll will you're
Speaker 1: here in the off season. They're gonna dial back the runs.
Speaker 1: They don't want to. They don't want it to be silly.
Speaker 1: This is who they are, this is who he is.
Speaker 1: They're not going to change that. What happens when they
Speaker 1: lose Greg Roman, Well that's their carversation. Oh all right, Greggy.
Speaker 1: If they lose Greg Roman, it's a different conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I think that they will lose Greg Roman. Well,
Speaker 1: if they do, I think there. I trust John harmon Off.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna bring another Marty Morning Way time to
Speaker 1: do this. He's gonna bring someone that will get the
Speaker 1: best of Lamar Jackson. He's easier said than done. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, question too, Yeah, question number two this week,
Speaker 1: Robert given the third is going to start for Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: would you play him in DFS? Yeah? I mean I
Speaker 1: haven't looked at the salaries yet, but I assumed that
Speaker 1: he will run a similar offense obviously to what Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson has done all year. He will be able to
Speaker 1: provide some rushing yardage. A tougher matchup against Pittsburgh obviously
Speaker 1: here and it must win Game four Pittsburgh. But you know,
Speaker 1: trying to find a quarterback that that is that cheap,
Speaker 1: that offers rushing upside as well, I think you'll be
Speaker 1: hard pressed to do so. So Yeah, I think r
Speaker 1: G three in DFS makes sense. Question number three, You
Speaker 1: don't think Greg Roman will be in Baltimore next year?
Speaker 1: Where will he be? Uh, let's go with someone's that's
Speaker 1: gonna fire their offensive coordinator. No, I don't really have
Speaker 1: a good nitches has anything comes Someone's gonna need an
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. He's the coach or maybe a head coach.
Speaker 1: That lead is alice coordinator. He's gonna go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: See that. We all we hope st