Speaker 1: Games all here again back out of Joe Rose John
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Kimbo Camper giving you another uh sterling podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out that Hell is a podcast.
Speaker 1: That's the only one I do. That's all. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: ain't doing a lot of podcasts do what I do,
Speaker 1: and it's the only one I listened to, that's the
Speaker 1: only one we're signed up for both. I know I
Speaker 1: should probably I should probably start scanning the uh the
Speaker 1: podcast world and and listen to more. Don't worry. Everybody
Speaker 1: does a podcast. Now you can have a phone and
Speaker 1: you can have a little privacy area. I was just
Speaker 1: looking through something yesterday, just kind of going through some stuff,
Speaker 1: and I see, uh Greg Cosell. He's a big pot.
Speaker 1: They got a big, big roll out of his podcast.
Speaker 1: Everybody got a podcast. I just don't know where you well,
Speaker 1: I know where you find him, but I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I need to delve more. We won't worry about the podcast.
Speaker 1: We'll worry about the more. Hey, guys, uh Minicamp wraps
Speaker 1: up and it's kind of become a little tradition. You know,
Speaker 1: these guys have been through O T A s. They've
Speaker 1: been been here for a long time going through offseason conditions.
Speaker 1: You excuse me, most podcasts don't get that have to
Speaker 1: edit that logan that's even live. This your live and
Speaker 1: real and whatever you do, don't don't don't sneaks and
Speaker 1: ruin our podcast. Bro a right, But anyways, kind of
Speaker 1: come a tradition where that last day everyone's been through.
Speaker 1: It's been a grind for some of these guys, especially
Speaker 1: the especially the college kids that came right out of
Speaker 1: their season, went right in to start working out for
Speaker 1: whether they were going to combine or not give themselves
Speaker 1: ready for pro days, combine all those things and boom
Speaker 1: right into it. So they haven't had a break. They
Speaker 1: had much of a break since really since going back
Speaker 1: to last August. So I'm sure they're they're they're not.
Speaker 1: So anyway, coach gives them the last day of the
Speaker 1: of the mini camp off. Well, I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of learning and being at minicamp the
Speaker 1: last couple of days. Um, there's some learning to be done.
Speaker 1: You can tell the veteran guys that have been here
Speaker 1: that are going full speed, aren't thinking about anything, been
Speaker 1: in this offense and defense and then all the new
Speaker 1: guys stand out like a sore thumb, not sure where
Speaker 1: to line up, going about half speed because they're thinking
Speaker 1: instead of just playing. And so that's what this is
Speaker 1: for man learning. They've been in the they've been in
Speaker 1: the teaching rooms and and going through position stuff with
Speaker 1: their coaches, but it's different getting out there and making
Speaker 1: adjustments with some guy over here. Would you guess, Sean
Speaker 1: that some of these guys, in particular the rookies may
Speaker 1: want to say, well, look, I think I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: stick around here in South Florida until training camp rolls around.
Speaker 1: I think so, I mean, why not? You know people
Speaker 1: are saying I'm going here for vacation. I'm going there
Speaker 1: for vacation. A lot of people live where other people
Speaker 1: vacation right their jobs on the line. More most importantly,
Speaker 1: and did Joe's point, You could absolutely tell when Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill in the first group are in the huddle and
Speaker 1: they break or they're on the ball and they're going
Speaker 1: hurry up and the communications really flawless. Defense the same
Speaker 1: way now the twos and threes come out and Bryce
Speaker 1: Petty is trying to get everybody back in the huddle
Speaker 1: after they've been on the line of scrimmage, because everybody's
Speaker 1: looking at each other going what what do we? Where
Speaker 1: do we I line up? Where do I go? So
Speaker 1: I do think that some of these young guys, they
Speaker 1: may go home for a week and then and I'm
Speaker 1: and then you come back early, get back in the classroom,
Speaker 1: get back in there, because there's nothing, like Joe said, perfectly,
Speaker 1: there's nothing that can emulate or or or kind of
Speaker 1: go out on the field and go through at full speed.
Speaker 1: You can't do that in the classroom. You can learn
Speaker 1: it things, you can get tag names, you can remember
Speaker 1: keys that will help you remember plays and tags on
Speaker 1: certain things. But to actually do it when the clock's
Speaker 1: running and you're under pressure and you're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out where to line up, let alone what coverage it
Speaker 1: is and how my route adjustment changes. You know, after
Speaker 1: the ball snapped, there's a lot of thinking going on.
Speaker 1: You could feel the smoke coming out a lot of
Speaker 1: helmets out there. But let me ask you both, this
Speaker 1: is your because you're offensive guys. You you've you've lived
Speaker 1: in offensive huddles. I haven't lived in offense huddles. But
Speaker 1: and when I when I when I listen to things.
Speaker 1: Now when I hear coaches talk about plays, man, I
Speaker 1: just think, I just think, man. And look it's not
Speaker 1: just the Dolphins. I think everybody's in this mode now.
Speaker 1: The play calling is so worthy these days. You know,
Speaker 1: it's very long, very worthy. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean back in the day, you know, it's like yo,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, two thirty seven and then
Speaker 1: you throw some the you know, the route numbers out
Speaker 1: or something. You know, it's quick, short and everything. We
Speaker 1: were very smart guys. Yeah, exactly, take off. That was it.
Speaker 1: And so you you, so you get and you you
Speaker 1: basically get. You get the you get the scheme, the
Speaker 1: blocking scheme, and you get routes. Right, so it's basically
Speaker 1: get it. Now you're listen doing this, you know the
Speaker 1: word it's it's just so you. And I wonder if
Speaker 1: that makes John makes it difficult for some of these
Speaker 1: guys that are coming in. You know, you're trying and
Speaker 1: trying to trying to jump jump over the hurdles of
Speaker 1: the of the of the terminology and keep getting tripped up.
Speaker 1: Does that have something to do with it? What makes
Speaker 1: it more difficult? And I guess it does. And what
Speaker 1: makes it more difficult is when you come from a
Speaker 1: university that has a board with four pictures on it,
Speaker 1: and you've got eight guys signaling to eight different people.
Speaker 1: On the sidelines, i have one person signaling to the
Speaker 1: wide receivers want to on your on that side. Now
Speaker 1: I've got another coach signaling to the receivers on the
Speaker 1: other side. Now I've got somebody going to the offensive
Speaker 1: line and giving them their protection. So as a quarterback,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything. I'm looking at the play that
Speaker 1: I'm getting from the sidelines. Lyneman has the protection, white
Speaker 1: outs have the routes. Back has his his read on
Speaker 1: too hot from the weak side, I'm blocking here, I'm
Speaker 1: hot here. They have all that taken care of. So
Speaker 1: now you come to the NFL and you've got you know,
Speaker 1: shift to why shift a seminole right? Tag it with
Speaker 1: another thing, and then you've got something in the middle
Speaker 1: to say, well, that's really a dummy call. Now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill it and give you another call at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, or call two plays at once. So
Speaker 1: there there's a lot of things going on that guys
Speaker 1: are not up to speed with you, So it's hard
Speaker 1: to evaluate the new players that are here. You can say, hey,
Speaker 1: that guy runs well, that guy catches the ball well,
Speaker 1: but you can't tell me if he was right on
Speaker 1: that player or not, because you don't know he doesn't right.
Speaker 1: I can just remember coming in and and and you know,
Speaker 1: they draft me as outside linebacker. I've never played linebacker
Speaker 1: in my life, so I'm just I'm just becoming new
Speaker 1: to I've never covered anybody in my life. So I
Speaker 1: come out here and and we run, and I remember
Speaker 1: the first cover we put in was our one coverage,
Speaker 1: one coverage. If I'm on the strong side, tight inside,
Speaker 1: I gotta get out to the yo cut and I
Speaker 1: gotta get you know, get the short out. I gotta
Speaker 1: be the short outside. If if I'm on the weak side,
Speaker 1: I got the week back man to man. I remember
Speaker 1: those things. Yes, you know all that, but so so
Speaker 1: I remember the first time. So so bill On he goes,
Speaker 1: all right, get you know, you go to the show
Speaker 1: Old Cancer. So so it's it's a zone. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a combo. It's a man man zone coverage.
Speaker 1: So staff the ball, I see the quarterback, so I'm
Speaker 1: sprint out to the to the short short out. Side,
Speaker 1: and I stand sitting and I just stopped and they
Speaker 1: throw the ball like over my head a little bit,
Speaker 1: And damn, but what you're doing out there? I said,
Speaker 1: why I got to where you told me? But you
Speaker 1: gotta do something once you get there. You can't just
Speaker 1: sit there and set up camp. Man. You gotta do something,
Speaker 1: you know. It's just like I got out there. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm out there, you know. But but then you get
Speaker 1: out there, then you got something. You gotta make something. Laugh.
Speaker 1: But so it's it's, you know, it's it's it's sometimes
Speaker 1: stuff like that elementary. But all I remember that I
Speaker 1: had so much crap going on through my head at
Speaker 1: that during at that time that I was just so
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to got out to where I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be, you know, I got It's a massive overload, man,
Speaker 1: especially like you said, when both these sides of the
Speaker 1: ball the running the same terminology. Guys that have been here,
Speaker 1: have been through the system, so they're just they're just
Speaker 1: continuing on what they already know. They're they're just stacking
Speaker 1: more knowledge on top of knowledge. Where these rookies are there,
Speaker 1: they're getting the basic stuff out there. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna take a while for these guys. But uh, but
Speaker 1: it's fun. It's fun sometimes though, even though you know
Speaker 1: the young guys even better, and sometimes you're gonna have
Speaker 1: you know, mental errors or breakdowns and mistakes. But it's
Speaker 1: it's been fun to watch once they get into one
Speaker 1: on ones and you kind of like, look at that
Speaker 1: body type and that guy big catch, you climb the
Speaker 1: ladder for that one, or that guy who encouraged he's
Speaker 1: pretty quick getting out of his break and getting to
Speaker 1: the football. You see those little traits that might carry
Speaker 1: over once they're organized. Well, I think I think for
Speaker 1: the most part, I think most people that that that
Speaker 1: have been around football, that watch football, can watch a
Speaker 1: young guy and know that, hey, this guy is just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what he's doing out here. But
Speaker 1: you see those you see those bursts every now and then,
Speaker 1: but that goes oh there, you go that that's that's
Speaker 1: what you saw yesterday. Actually, if you were to look
Speaker 1: a wow, way ahead of the chart, he you saw
Speaker 1: his physical talent the last couple of days running by guys,
Speaker 1: catching a ball over his shoulder. He's got really good
Speaker 1: hands and he's got a gear. Yeah, Hey, one of
Speaker 1: the guys out there too. That's gotta be happy. Guy
Speaker 1: Bobby McCain. Uh, we've talked about Bobby all all all
Speaker 1: during the off season. Now he made that big, that
Speaker 1: that that big raised his game a couple of levels
Speaker 1: last year and got paid for it during the off
Speaker 1: season with just recently with a contract. And I'm happy
Speaker 1: for Bobby. You know, he's a guy who worked hard
Speaker 1: and deserved it. But here's the guy there's gotta be
Speaker 1: happy to be running around with with a big with
Speaker 1: a big wallet and a little bit he got a
Speaker 1: little different and the guys are giving him the needle
Speaker 1: to big paid house. Yeah, that's great. Hey, listen, you're right,
Speaker 1: Bobby's one the most improved players on the team a
Speaker 1: year ago. I was looking at the roster this morning
Speaker 1: of of guys who made the big jump and what
Speaker 1: he did in the slot, and how much better he
Speaker 1: got in coverage, uh, and the things. Hey, that's an
Speaker 1: inside outside go man. There are a lot of corners
Speaker 1: they're going no, no, no, you take it inside. I
Speaker 1: like having that sideline. I don't want to have to
Speaker 1: have a two way go plus over the top. So
Speaker 1: he's really a nice job. He's become one of the
Speaker 1: better players at his position in the league. And I
Speaker 1: think he's become one of the leaders. Any questions about that,
Speaker 1: I think he's a you know, Bob, Bobby's got that
Speaker 1: and there's guys like that that that we've all played
Speaker 1: with that he's got that unique unique He's a fun guy,
Speaker 1: you know, he's easy to get along with, he likes
Speaker 1: to laugh like but but when it comes to business,
Speaker 1: he's all business about being better. He's about getting better.
Speaker 1: He's about making everyone around him better. And I think
Speaker 1: and I think that that that is part of the
Speaker 1: reason I think why this team invested that money and
Speaker 1: Bobby because of all those things he brings to the table.
Speaker 1: Talk about his leadership, talk about him being vocal out
Speaker 1: in the field, no one where everyone's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, he's proven that he
Speaker 1: can cover in this league and uh and be very successful.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go ahead, Joe, I just say finding a
Speaker 1: guy to cover inside with all those things, all the
Speaker 1: intagible as you talked about, has made him really really valuable,
Speaker 1: and including the work in the off season, what he's done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a chance to catch up with with Bobby
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier and during these uh O t
Speaker 1: s and stuff, and uh, we didn't we didn't have
Speaker 1: I wish I had known he's gonna get the contract.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't ask him about it, but I'd asked him
Speaker 1: for a little dope. You've got a little extra extract. Yeah,
Speaker 1: podcast exactly. Let's let's hear what Bobby had to say.
Speaker 1: All right, Humber with Bobby your Kane and uh, what
Speaker 1: have you been doing with yourself? Though? Now she's a
Speaker 1: season ended to get to where we're at right now,
Speaker 1: just trying to stay in shape. Um, you know, just
Speaker 1: working out, doing doing it, trying to do the right
Speaker 1: things and just get my body right for what's coming
Speaker 1: up and what's coming ahead. We got a big season
Speaker 1: to head for us. And uh, you know, I attended
Speaker 1: the business combine that Mr Ross put on in New
Speaker 1: York and it was it was a very exciting experience.
Speaker 1: It was I'm very great for to be able to
Speaker 1: go because you can learn so much from so many
Speaker 1: people and just uh he had tons just him speaking
Speaker 1: and hearing the other influential people they are speaking that
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's good to just pick their brains
Speaker 1: and take notes. We're gonna touch on that a little
Speaker 1: bit later on the program, because I think it's really
Speaker 1: one of the great things that that Mr. Ross was
Speaker 1: doing for for his players and people around the league
Speaker 1: that want to get involved. We'll touch on that a
Speaker 1: little bit, but for first, let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about you know, the one the one constant in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He has become change. I remember the number for a
Speaker 1: number of years was was fort turnover. Basically on every team,
Speaker 1: you got seven draft choices, most of them usually make
Speaker 1: the team, and that's a big ball. Your free agents
Speaker 1: move coming and going, and it seems like even now
Speaker 1: this year a little bit more volatile the movement is.
Speaker 1: It's been a strange offseason for you seeing guys come
Speaker 1: and go and the and the movements that really really
Speaker 1: aren't done with until until you guys go into training
Speaker 1: camp and get to that business. Yeah, you know, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's the NFL. You know, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a it's a business where you know, things happen, things change,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, we had some big we made
Speaker 1: some big moves and some big changes, but you know,
Speaker 1: they have a plan, you know, and my job is
Speaker 1: to play football, you know, so um, you know, just
Speaker 1: go out and do everything you can, and like, like
Speaker 1: I wish those guys the best of luck. And I
Speaker 1: know they're gonna have great futures in their careers. You know,
Speaker 1: they're really good players. And um, so just knowing, like
Speaker 1: you know, just just putting your best foot forward every day,
Speaker 1: coming out every day and knowing that you know, no
Speaker 1: one's safe. You know. We just like like we just said,
Speaker 1: we just traded Jarvis. Um, you know, really Sue, you know,
Speaker 1: those are those are big name guys, and those are
Speaker 1: big guys that that we're a big part of the team.
Speaker 1: And um, you know, unfortunately're going so now we have
Speaker 1: to you have to look forward and and just just
Speaker 1: go with what with what's best. It's the nature of
Speaker 1: the beast. I mean, every team in the NFL is
Speaker 1: going through comings and goings. The guy that you know,
Speaker 1: certainly certainly a lot of those guys that meant a
Speaker 1: lot to this football team for a long period of times.
Speaker 1: But the guy that struck me latest was Michael Thomas.
Speaker 1: I like Michael Thomas, a good guy, a good guy
Speaker 1: to have around the team. And uh and and I
Speaker 1: kind of hate to see him go. But that's kind
Speaker 1: of the same with everybody. You kind of get to
Speaker 1: know guys, and you know, it's different from a player standpoint.
Speaker 1: You obviously get to know him at a different level
Speaker 1: than we do outside the locker room. Um is it
Speaker 1: tough Sometimes you see guys that you have a friend
Speaker 1: relationship friendly relationship with the jettison or or choose to
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. It definitely is definitely is like speaking
Speaker 1: on Mike Tam Mike, he's one of the greatest guys
Speaker 1: I've been around. You know, he's one of the He's
Speaker 1: a really good football player and he's an even better person.
Speaker 1: You know, he does what he's supposed to do in
Speaker 1: the community and you know he's a real role model
Speaker 1: for people out here. Um. Just and that's why you
Speaker 1: get so much love, you know, And it does it
Speaker 1: sucks to see your friends go because, like I said,
Speaker 1: when I came in, um I had there's only like
Speaker 1: maybe I think two maybe three of my guys that
Speaker 1: were in my class, um that were drafted in my
Speaker 1: class and that are left here. So you know, it does,
Speaker 1: it does something. But like you said, it's a nature
Speaker 1: of the beast and like the NFL is always changing,
Speaker 1: and um, you know there's gonna be there's gonna be
Speaker 1: new faces in the locker room, new faces in the
Speaker 1: meeting rooms. You know, you just got to you you
Speaker 1: have to put together and that's that's what being a
Speaker 1: team is all about. Bobby. You spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time since you've been here trying to improve your game,
Speaker 1: trying trying to be a better player. And that's what
Speaker 1: your life in the NFL. It's always trying to find
Speaker 1: that one thing that makes you a little better. And boy,
Speaker 1: you took a big leap last year. I thought you
Speaker 1: really did a lot of good things last year. Six
Speaker 1: team games, you have seven starts during the season, You
Speaker 1: got out of the cornerback spot, and you got a
Speaker 1: chance to play out there a little bit more rather
Speaker 1: than playing inside and some of the uh the the
Speaker 1: nickel and dime packages there. Um, do you feel good
Speaker 1: about what you accomplished last year? Personally? Oh? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you Um, you have people tell you had a
Speaker 1: good year, and you know, just being honest, you know,
Speaker 1: if you did or you didn't, But uh, I know
Speaker 1: I can be better, you know, I know. I don't
Speaker 1: let I try not to try to indulge in and
Speaker 1: what people are saying to me, and just keep working,
Speaker 1: keeputing my head down and keep doing I'm doing, you know,
Speaker 1: because each year I've gotten better, and like I said,
Speaker 1: this next year, I'll I don't get better. And um,
Speaker 1: that's the nature of the game. If you're not getting better,
Speaker 1: get worse, period. And that's just how it is. So
Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate the compliment, like you said, but um,
Speaker 1: like like I said, I haven't had my best year.
Speaker 1: You got to step out in the corner a little bit.
Speaker 1: Uh did you like doing that? And it's certainly I
Speaker 1: think you certainly send a metchages to everybody in that
Speaker 1: secondary that Hey, I'm I'm I'm more than one trick pony.
Speaker 1: I got playing inside, but I can also go outside
Speaker 1: and cover anyone you need out there. I think you
Speaker 1: certainly made that evident last year. Yeah, for sure, for
Speaker 1: sure I can do it all, you know, if you
Speaker 1: Regardless where I play, I'm gonna try to get the
Speaker 1: job done. And uh, that's my job as a football player,
Speaker 1: and that's my job. That's my role for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Wherever you wherever you are, wherever your play is get
Speaker 1: the job done and Um, that's why I like to
Speaker 1: do like so talk about changing the team. Guys coming in. Uh,
Speaker 1: one of the guys certainly interested coming in, Danny Ammondola.
Speaker 1: You got up close in person with him last year
Speaker 1: up in New England. Um, gotta kinda take us through
Speaker 1: that little thing and that little scuffle up there. I
Speaker 1: I was right there kind of watching it. Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of football I like. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: So you know, I wouldn't have thrown the fly, but
Speaker 1: that's just me, but kind of take it. That was
Speaker 1: something that's kind of It's funny these things. People see
Speaker 1: him at the moment and sometimes these things start maybe
Speaker 1: a game too, maybe a year back where things going.
Speaker 1: Is this has just been something that's come along or
Speaker 1: was this just a one time game situation? You know
Speaker 1: it was a game situation. You know, it was really intense.
Speaker 1: You know, anytime you play the Patriots is gonna be intense,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, So, like like I said, now he's
Speaker 1: my teammate now, you know, and uh you know, now
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to war together and that that that's
Speaker 1: what it is. You know. Well, I'm sure we'll have
Speaker 1: a conversation about what we went on. But like, like
Speaker 1: I said, at the end of the day, now we're
Speaker 1: trying to win games. So you know, we're teammates and
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to go and get the job done regardless.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm on the side, he's on my side.
Speaker 1: So I hated the guy for the last five years.
Speaker 1: Now I like him. Yeah, you know, he's like I said, man,
Speaker 1: he's good football, football, tough guy. He uh, he's a
Speaker 1: good player. You know. Unfortunately we had our differences, you know,
Speaker 1: but that happens. You know, well, like and like like practice,
Speaker 1: now it's it's it's game day every day now, you know,
Speaker 1: regardless of he's on our team, regardless who's that in
Speaker 1: front of you know, it's just it should be that.
Speaker 1: That's what pragice should be. They should be competitive. It
Speaker 1: should be good football. You know, where people are competing,
Speaker 1: people are trying to get people trying to win. Well,
Speaker 1: you you don't, you don't. You don't get in that
Speaker 1: situation with a guy like Danny em Indoor or anybody
Speaker 1: else that you're playing with if you're not competing at
Speaker 1: the highest level. And and to me, that's that's just
Speaker 1: a byproduct of going out there and playing your ass
Speaker 1: off and you know, you guys, guys mix it up
Speaker 1: and you're two very competitive guys. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: don't see a big problem with it myself. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: for sure. Um, but you did get thrown out of
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah I did. And you got thrown out
Speaker 1: of a game in New England. Yeah, that's a long
Speaker 1: walk in the locker room from that side of the
Speaker 1: field with all those people, and they're and they're not
Speaker 1: very hesitant to voice their opinion. Was that I was.
Speaker 1: I was that walk into the locker room that they
Speaker 1: let me have it. You know, they let me have it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna let you know that you know you're wrong,
Speaker 1: and you know you're you're you're you're know you'll know
Speaker 1: when you're in New England, I promise. And uh but
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, I lost my cool and
Speaker 1: like I told the team after a game, you know
Speaker 1: it won't happen again. And um, you know I told him,
Speaker 1: I got I got the I got the privilege to
Speaker 1: speak to the team before the Patriots game at home,
Speaker 1: and you know, I just was telling them how you know,
Speaker 1: how I was filming. I just I told him from
Speaker 1: I spoke from the heart, and I told him, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: like I want to win, regardless of what it takes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I told him, I promise you I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in this game awful quarters. So I probably made
Speaker 1: that promise and I kept it. Well, we'll give me
Speaker 1: fifty two guys that are that are that are that
Speaker 1: committed to trying to win a football game. Uh and
Speaker 1: and and we'll do pretty good with with that type
Speaker 1: of group. So I got no problem with that. Hey,
Speaker 1: we were talking about it. So let's let's get let's
Speaker 1: get onto Mr Ross and uh. He's done this for
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, runs a business combine. I
Speaker 1: think last year, I think he had nineteen guys up there.
Speaker 1: I think they're probably a similar amount of number of
Speaker 1: guys up there this year. I don't know how many
Speaker 1: the guys the same guys from the year before this year.
Speaker 1: But but he gives players an opportunity and it's an
Speaker 1: open invite to anybody that wants to come up. I
Speaker 1: understand on the team is that you know, come on up. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to sit in the meetings with with myself,
Speaker 1: CEOs from other companies, presidents of other companies, people are
Speaker 1: that are in very powerful and very very powerful positions
Speaker 1: in the business world. Um And and first of all,
Speaker 1: that Mr Ross would do that and extend that invitation
Speaker 1: says a lot about a lot of people in a
Speaker 1: lot of people around sports, around football. I think that
Speaker 1: two owners, players are nothing more than a than a
Speaker 1: you know, than a piece of meat and and a
Speaker 1: chess chess piece to move around. I think this kind
Speaker 1: of shows that Mr Ross a little bit different owner
Speaker 1: than that he's concerned with not only what you do
Speaker 1: now as a player, but that you're ready when you're
Speaker 1: done playing to be able to go on. And look,
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't played in thirty years. I'm sixty
Speaker 1: three years old. I've got a lot of I had
Speaker 1: a lot of life after football. You're gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of life after football. Certainly nice to have somebody
Speaker 1: behind you here trying to get you ready for that
Speaker 1: life so you can be successful successful then as you've
Speaker 1: been up until now. Yeah, for sure, you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, like you said, is appreciate him inviting me
Speaker 1: up because you learn so much just not from the
Speaker 1: footb just seeing things from outside of football, you know,
Speaker 1: and like one um, one of the owners told us
Speaker 1: up there, he told us, you know you're gonna play
Speaker 1: football for ten to fifteen years. That's a third of
Speaker 1: your life, you know. So you have so much life
Speaker 1: ahead of you that you have to set yourself in
Speaker 1: place to take care of your family, be able to
Speaker 1: just to be able to like you want if you
Speaker 1: want to be able to change the world, but to
Speaker 1: be honest and um, you know, just influential people like
Speaker 1: you said, like CEOs and presidents of different companies coming
Speaker 1: and speaking here Mr raw speak and seeing the Hudson
Speaker 1: Yards and what he has going up. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just being around those influential people's it's a very it's
Speaker 1: it's it's really exciting. And uh, like I said it,
Speaker 1: you want to pick their brain. You want to pick
Speaker 1: their brain, take down notes because you never know one
Speaker 1: thing they may say it may it may stick with
Speaker 1: you forever. So it was a great confident from me
Speaker 1: when you see successful people and what they've done to
Speaker 1: be successful, and only what they've done to get successful,
Speaker 1: but what they do to continue to be successful. Because
Speaker 1: like you said, after your your life, it's a you're
Speaker 1: a long way to go and It's all about continuing
Speaker 1: to provide for your family and do all those things.
Speaker 1: I know you talked with the NFL network nad Burlson's guys,
Speaker 1: is that something that you're that as you look down
Speaker 1: the road, that broadcasting or some type something like that,
Speaker 1: is it is something you would like to invest in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely broadcast, TV radio, you know that, that's something I
Speaker 1: feel like I have a love for. I have a
Speaker 1: passion for you know that. And kids. You know I
Speaker 1: love coaching, so um those two like just just being
Speaker 1: able to talk with him and just being able to
Speaker 1: just pick his brain and and just be able to
Speaker 1: get some tips and just be like, know what I
Speaker 1: would I need to start, where I need to finish?
Speaker 1: What do I need to you know? What do I
Speaker 1: need to say? How do I need to look? Or
Speaker 1: how No, regardless of he and him himself, he he
Speaker 1: gave me great notes and great tips and just be yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, just be yourself and be who you are.
Speaker 1: And like I said, it was a a is a
Speaker 1: great opportunity for me abible to talk to him Mr Rawson,
Speaker 1: other owners and executive. You know, I haven't been through it.
Speaker 1: I I believe I truly believe that for life after
Speaker 1: the NFL is maybe one of the greatest platforms ever
Speaker 1: for you to take off and and get get what
Speaker 1: you want to get into. Did they talk a little
Speaker 1: bit of you about managing money this type of things, because, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, in the world old now and in the NFL,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there. They want to
Speaker 1: stick their hand in your pocket and and trying to decide,
Speaker 1: you know, who you want to get in bed with,
Speaker 1: who you don't want to get in bed with. Uh.
Speaker 1: It really is a make or break for a lot
Speaker 1: of players. Where there's somewhere there's any conversations about that
Speaker 1: going down the road. Yeah, you know there were conversations
Speaker 1: of that there. Um just speaking on you know, money management.
Speaker 1: You know that that football money is it'll it'll last
Speaker 1: you if you play in the league a long time,
Speaker 1: it can last you a lifetime if you if you
Speaker 1: take care of yourself, you know, if you're not out,
Speaker 1: if you're out handling it responsibly. You know, if you're not,
Speaker 1: then they can be short term and you may have
Speaker 1: to get a job where you're working nine of five,
Speaker 1: which is nothing wrong with that, but that you have
Speaker 1: a great opportunity to be able to set yourself up.
Speaker 1: You have a platform that you can just really branch
Speaker 1: out and see what's out in the world, you know,
Speaker 1: and not not even not being with money, just being
Speaker 1: just as a as a just having that label as
Speaker 1: an NFL player, you know, just having that label and
Speaker 1: having that shield behind you. You know, people want to know, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you do it? You know,
Speaker 1: just like I want to know, like being putting a
Speaker 1: suit and tie on, sitting in front of Mr Ross,
Speaker 1: how do you do it? You know? And one thing
Speaker 1: you spoke to me was one thing he said, when
Speaker 1: first you got in the room with success, bre you success?
Speaker 1: And that kind of suckled me. And it can mean
Speaker 1: a lot of things. You can mean a lot of meetings,
Speaker 1: you know, And for me it's just I've just taken
Speaker 1: home to you know what I'm saying. If you, if
Speaker 1: you continue to do what you're doing, you continue to
Speaker 1: be successful, then that should carry over, carry over, carry
Speaker 1: over to where you want to be in life. You know,
Speaker 1: because if I, if I can do this, if I
Speaker 1: can play football for how many years I don't play football,
Speaker 1: actually be able to do anything well well I'm sure
Speaker 1: you started playing football and you're about nine years old
Speaker 1: and here you are in the NFL. Uh, and you
Speaker 1: look back all over that time at at the we're
Speaker 1: all the work you put in to get from there
Speaker 1: to here over the years, and that's what's made you successful.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I try to tell guys like like, well,
Speaker 1: just remember what you did to get here and do
Speaker 1: the same thing and whatever that. Whether it's broadcasting, whether
Speaker 1: you become a business owner, uh, you know, whatever field
Speaker 1: you go into, you've got the greatest background because you've
Speaker 1: accomplished something that very few people in this world have
Speaker 1: ever accomplished, and you've done it with hard work. Transferred
Speaker 1: over to what you do after seems to be a
Speaker 1: pretty easy, a pretty easy transition exactly. Having that mentality
Speaker 1: of uh, like like getting the job done. My mentality
Speaker 1: when I stepped out on the field. All Right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get the job done. You know, we got the
Speaker 1: balls up in the air. Let me get the job
Speaker 1: that I want, the ball knocked, the ball down, you know,
Speaker 1: regardless of it. Take that mentality and put it in
Speaker 1: a business world and you'll get the job done regardless. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's different it's a little different, you man and dress different.
Speaker 1: You may have to you know, you may have to
Speaker 1: do things differently, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: get the job done good. I mean, that's a great
Speaker 1: thing to do. And and I'm sure we really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: You play baseball at Memphis. Where's baseball in your life anymore?
Speaker 1: You pay attention to it? Do you watch watch baseball
Speaker 1: or watch I watch it from found the time. It's
Speaker 1: tough to watch watch so uh, you know, but I
Speaker 1: pay attention from time to time if there's a good
Speaker 1: baseball game on of course the playoffs I watch and
Speaker 1: um but uh no, I still love baseball. Like I said,
Speaker 1: my my son's gonna play baseball. They don't really have
Speaker 1: a choice. So he uh not not saying I'm rad
Speaker 1: and your kid, you played all you played all through
Speaker 1: when you're in Memphis. No, no, no, no, no, you
Speaker 1: just uh I played at school. I started in Memphis
Speaker 1: like when I was when I first got there, and
Speaker 1: it was just it was a lot to handle, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot handle with books and football and school workouts.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot to do, a lot to handle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can hit, Yeah, I can do. It was pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wasn't bad. We couldn't you hit? Uh? Oh man,
Speaker 1: Uh I had trouble. Can change up? Yeah I got Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to change up baseball. It's funny, good, it's
Speaker 1: funny you mentioned because baseball it's a kid that's great
Speaker 1: really one of the great games to play. Uh. But
Speaker 1: now it's gotten so slow and it's kind of it's
Speaker 1: kind of the mud and you know, i'd like to
Speaker 1: see something, but I don't. You know, I'd like to
Speaker 1: see him pick it up, but I but I don't
Speaker 1: want to see him change the game either, which kind
Speaker 1: of exactly exactly. And like you said, like it's so
Speaker 1: it's fun to play. It's fun to be on the field.
Speaker 1: It's fun to be out, you know, getting ready for
Speaker 1: the ball, whatever, hitting the ball, pitching, catching, whatever you're doing.
Speaker 1: But man, when you're sitting behind that TV and it's
Speaker 1: going really oh man, it's tough. Hey, let's kind of
Speaker 1: get back to where where you are right now. What
Speaker 1: do you do between now and the time the training
Speaker 1: camp starts so that you can you can compete at
Speaker 1: the level you want to compete in once the season begins. See,
Speaker 1: it's a big change from my rookie year to my
Speaker 1: fourth year. So my rookie year, I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work out, run really hard, and you know,
Speaker 1: just do what I gotta do. But it takes more
Speaker 1: than that, you know, there's um it takes more for
Speaker 1: your body. It takes more mentally. You know, you have
Speaker 1: to even now if you want to get a electra
Speaker 1: study time, man, like you know, just turn to turn
Speaker 1: the film on, even if it's five ten minutes. You
Speaker 1: just sit in front of the TV turning film and
Speaker 1: watch the Patriot. You claim twice a year, why not
Speaker 1: you know? So um even that like but like such
Speaker 1: as working out. Nutrition, that's one thing that I take
Speaker 1: seriously now you know from my route from then to now. Um. Nutrition, Uh,
Speaker 1: physical therapy, just taking care of the body, massages regardless
Speaker 1: what it is, because it is he the long see,
Speaker 1: it's a really long season ahead of you. And um,
Speaker 1: you know during O t A. You know, we do
Speaker 1: a great job here of of trying to saying in shape,
Speaker 1: running condition and meets and whatnot. But you have to
Speaker 1: do whatever you have to do get the extra mile
Speaker 1: because clearly we didn't do enough. You know, we're in
Speaker 1: six and ten. So whatever you gotta do to get
Speaker 1: the extra step in, we have to. We have to
Speaker 1: take care of it. We spend time this offseason with
Speaker 1: X and Tank the young guys out there and kind
Speaker 1: of try to get them from where they are they
Speaker 1: are as as after rookies and actually second year going
Speaker 1: into his third year, where you can kind of kind
Speaker 1: of help them bridge that gap to get to get
Speaker 1: to be the players they want to be sooner than
Speaker 1: maybe they could be. Yeah, dB, the DBS, we actually
Speaker 1: some of us train together, me x um t j
Speaker 1: lip we we we we we trained together, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, just to push each other, you know, regardless,
Speaker 1: like we we uh, just to push each other to
Speaker 1: make sure we're all doing the right things, not saying
Speaker 1: doing the right things, but just working, like working our
Speaker 1: tails because we want to be great, you know, like regardless,
Speaker 1: we don't want to be average now. We want to
Speaker 1: be the best secondary in the league. And that's and
Speaker 1: we have a chance to be. With the players we
Speaker 1: have here, we have a chance to be. So just uh,
Speaker 1: you know, pushing each other, going a extra going that
Speaker 1: extra mile, uh, doing whatever we have to do, man,
Speaker 1: just just to be able to say hey, okay, we
Speaker 1: put the work in. Now it's time to show it,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's not guaranteed. Just because you work
Speaker 1: hard does mean you're gonna come out win ball games.
Speaker 1: That that doesn't happen. It takes, it takes more than that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a lipid. I'm really looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing what he can do. You know, he had such
Speaker 1: a good year the year before it really became on
Speaker 1: as as a as a dB back there in the
Speaker 1: corner um the year before, and the unfortunately had the injury.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to see what he can what
Speaker 1: he can do and continue to grow this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, he's uh, he's he's getting he's
Speaker 1: getting healthy. He's looking really good. You know, he's he's
Speaker 1: he's ahead of the of the process of wherever he
Speaker 1: is in his rehab. But um, you know, he's looking
Speaker 1: real good. What's what's the feeling like in that dB room?
Speaker 1: Competitive helping? Well, what's it? What's it like? It's it's
Speaker 1: a couple. It's it's a couple of feelings. Man, it's competitive,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, we help each other like there
Speaker 1: there There'll never be a time where a gul asked,
Speaker 1: I can't ask a question because he doesn't because he's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, or there never be a time where a
Speaker 1: guy won't answer a question. You know, if I any
Speaker 1: anyone answering me, anyone ask me a question, I'll try
Speaker 1: my best answer. I don't know it, I'll ask, you know,
Speaker 1: so you know, just being like like you said, we
Speaker 1: had Tank rookie and Moe Tory, and we had a
Speaker 1: couple of rookies in the room. You know those guys
Speaker 1: anytime they ask questions, you know, just help them. You know.
Speaker 1: That's and that's that's what we're doing. We're really close.
Speaker 1: We're right now, like we're still building chemistry. Like we said,
Speaker 1: we're trained together and that that all that all goes together,
Speaker 1: you know, regardless we got we have vests in our room,
Speaker 1: such a shot and um you know and t J
Speaker 1: and guys that have been in the league six plus years,
Speaker 1: so um, you know, just it's competitive, but it's also
Speaker 1: you know, it's also it's also like a like I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say a friend zone, but it's all it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're all we're all really tight. We're all
Speaker 1: really close because we all with a brotherhood. We all
Speaker 1: want the same thing, you know, we're all we're all
Speaker 1: fighting for the same thing, and that's a championship. It's one.
Speaker 1: It's one of the really one of the oddities to
Speaker 1: me in the NFL that guys that are there that
Speaker 1: have the job, we'll do everything they can help to
Speaker 1: everything they can do to help the guy behind them
Speaker 1: that's trying to take your job. But you're willing to
Speaker 1: help them get better while they're trying to take your job.
Speaker 1: And I know it's all about making the team as
Speaker 1: a whole better, But I don't think there's very many
Speaker 1: places on this earth where you have a job where
Speaker 1: you're making the kind of money you're making the NFL,
Speaker 1: where you're trying to help the guy behind you who's
Speaker 1: trying to take your job. Yeah, you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you said, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like if if you're behind the guy, you're
Speaker 1: trying to take his job, and if you're in front
Speaker 1: of guy, you're trying to keep your you know, so
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you just got to
Speaker 1: go out and compete and do what you do, do
Speaker 1: your best. You know that, just give your best, give
Speaker 1: your all man, that's all we can ask for it.
Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, we'll find a
Speaker 1: spot for you, you know, so and myself included. You know,
Speaker 1: who who keeps that who keeps that room? Like, who's
Speaker 1: the guy that, who's the practical joker in that room?
Speaker 1: Who was the guy that maybe you trying to keep
Speaker 1: things keep things light in that room? We all we
Speaker 1: all try to, uh you know that probably I would
Speaker 1: say probably exaviing probably you know I wouldn't. He's a character.
Speaker 1: He's a character though, but he uh, like he came
Speaker 1: along this year, you know, he he and he gets
Speaker 1: it man, you know he understands that. You know, like
Speaker 1: from a rookie year to the second year, the third year,
Speaker 1: like it takes more and we all, you know, everybody
Speaker 1: goes through that phase where you have to understand like
Speaker 1: you gotta watch more film, you gotta do more study,
Speaker 1: you gotta do this, you gotta do that. But just
Speaker 1: just keeping the room, just just keeping everybody in their toes.
Speaker 1: You know, we all try to. We all we all
Speaker 1: have our hand in it. We all have our hand.
Speaker 1: And like you know, because I joke with t J
Speaker 1: a lot, I joke a lip I joke a shot
Speaker 1: you regard, that's who it is. But we're all close
Speaker 1: enough to what we know. We don't mean anything by
Speaker 1: you know, we mean we mean we mean the best boy,
Speaker 1: which means you can push the edge pretty hard. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You guys hang pretty pretty tight when you guys getting
Speaker 1: the road, you see, I know, usually go out to
Speaker 1: dinner or whatever some places before you the night before
Speaker 1: the games, you usually hang pretty close together with Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all we will definitely go to dinner just about
Speaker 1: every away game we have, and uh, you know, uh
Speaker 1: we used even home games. Sometimes we go to dinner,
Speaker 1: just just keeping that, like even if it's throughout the week.
Speaker 1: Many man, let's just just grab a guy you wanna
Speaker 1: go to dinner. Just chuck it up, man, because he's
Speaker 1: a guy you're gonna go to war with, you know,
Speaker 1: every every Sunday. So I want to know he's got
Speaker 1: my back, same way he wants to know I have his.
Speaker 1: Who do you argue with on that team? Who? Who
Speaker 1: do argue? Who do you argue within that team? Um?
Speaker 1: Who kind of gets under your skin a little bit?
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking in a I'm not talking in
Speaker 1: a in a love hate way, just you know, the
Speaker 1: like should just kind of maybe stick the needle in
Speaker 1: you every now and then. I used to I used
Speaker 1: to go ahead it with job us a lot because
Speaker 1: we always compete up here, and we would compete every day.
Speaker 1: You know, he plays in the slide and he um,
Speaker 1: so I would go with jobs a lot and Kenny
Speaker 1: and Kenny, well we'll touch basement from time to time
Speaker 1: with you know, a couple of jokes here there, but
Speaker 1: it's all it's all love, you know. And Um, I'll
Speaker 1: give him a hard time and give me a hard time,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we know I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to win and he's trying to win. And
Speaker 1: that's what That's what brings the best out of the team.
Speaker 1: That's what brings the best out of people. Um, can
Speaker 1: this team make the leap from where they were six
Speaker 1: and ten last year? Uh? To be the kind of
Speaker 1: team that you guys want to be on. A team
Speaker 1: that's challenging in the playoffs and then getting in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and being able to challenge in the playoffs without
Speaker 1: the doubt, without I'm there. There will never be a
Speaker 1: time where you hear me say, oh, we're just gonna
Speaker 1: be mediocre or oh, we're just gonna be average. No. No,
Speaker 1: I go into every year thinking, Okay, look, this is
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. This is the plan we have,
Speaker 1: you know, and and we're trying to We're trying to
Speaker 1: do our best. Man, we want to win at all.
Speaker 1: Well there's I'm sick of looking at the Bowl in
Speaker 1: every February. I'm sick of this horrible Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: terrible feeling, you know. So we we're like we, like
Speaker 1: I said, we're trying to I'm not just gonna sit
Speaker 1: here and say, oh, the Dolphins win a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you know, don't don't, don't know, but I am going
Speaker 1: to say that that's our goal. Hey look, I look,
Speaker 1: I'm just from I'm speaking for myself and nobody else.
Speaker 1: You know, if I was a head coach in this league,
Speaker 1: the first thing I would say when I got in
Speaker 1: front of my football team the first day would be, looked,
Speaker 1: we're here for one purpose. That's to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Anything short of that, we've fallen short. And I don't
Speaker 1: think you know, to me, maybe I'm old school, but
Speaker 1: I don't think that throwing that out there, you know,
Speaker 1: why set your goal for something lower than that because
Speaker 1: everyone's playing it. There's there's one team that ends the league,
Speaker 1: happends the season happy. One team is jumping up and
Speaker 1: down right, and every other team walks away pissed because
Speaker 1: there's season is over too early. And and so if
Speaker 1: if that's the case, you might as well shoot for
Speaker 1: the stars, right man, there's no there's no there's no
Speaker 1: point being the yoker, and there's no point and and
Speaker 1: just just standing in the back and just being in
Speaker 1: the middle, being in the middle of the pact. No, man,
Speaker 1: we want to leave. We want to be. We wanna
Speaker 1: be the guys that people hate to come down to
Speaker 1: South Florida and play. Oh man, we gotta go to
Speaker 1: the hot box. We want to That's the team we
Speaker 1: want to be. That's the secondary, that's the offense and
Speaker 1: defense we want to be. So you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: that's our goal is to win games. Take it one
Speaker 1: game at a time, and get that job done. Who's next? Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're you get up for every game,
Speaker 1: and you and you prepare every game and then you
Speaker 1: and you go out to play your best every game.
Speaker 1: But who do you play against every year? That really
Speaker 1: gets you, really attract your attention. Tom Brady, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. The patios. You know, it's it's been going
Speaker 1: on here for years now. You know, like you said,
Speaker 1: you prepare every game, and I go in every game thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going every game preparing the same that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this, I'm gonna watch this, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do this, and this is what they do, is what
Speaker 1: they like, is they don't like. But you know, there's
Speaker 1: just a different field when you're in New England or
Speaker 1: when New England's here. You know, it's it's a different
Speaker 1: field of the game. Um, you know, And like I said,
Speaker 1: like at any point in time and any Sunday, any
Speaker 1: team can beat you. You know, it doesn't matter who.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're playing a one in fifteen team,
Speaker 1: if you're playing a twelve and and three team or
Speaker 1: twelve and four team. You know, regardless what it is
Speaker 1: that any team can beat you. And you have to
Speaker 1: go into every game preparing that way. But for sure,
Speaker 1: New England pages is a game that you have to
Speaker 1: get up the best. He's the best player you've played against,
Speaker 1: ye without a doubt. Well what about receivers out there.
Speaker 1: Then you look at and that you know they're gonna
Speaker 1: be uh, they're gonna be a big challenge. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: you have you have your you have you have your
Speaker 1: your your great receivers such as Antonio Brown, Julio Jones,
Speaker 1: your Beckham's, and you're even your Jervis Is. You know,
Speaker 1: just guys that are guys that have that that that
Speaker 1: have that have a staple in the league. But you
Speaker 1: know there's guys that there's guys that you you don't
Speaker 1: know that will surprise you. You know about as soon
Speaker 1: as you think you haven't got down, that's when he
Speaker 1: surprised you. And that's when you know the ball is
Speaker 1: over your head. So you know, you just have to,
Speaker 1: like I said, anytime anyone lines up, I don't like
Speaker 1: I told him. I think I've told this to you before.
Speaker 1: I I don't really see names. I see numbers. So um,
Speaker 1: you know, just going out there man and playing hard, man,
Speaker 1: playing playing your office. What's about. It's all about focus.
Speaker 1: You know, I've talked. I was talking to someone last
Speaker 1: week and they go, man, you know you're playing those
Speaker 1: games and people are screaming in the stand. I said,
Speaker 1: you know what if you're really focused for a game,
Speaker 1: you should be able to stay in the field and
Speaker 1: you don't hear anything out there. It's almost like dead quiet.
Speaker 1: I remember lining up in games where there's eighty thousand
Speaker 1: people and I could put my hand in the ground
Speaker 1: and I could hear the offensive lineman. I could hear
Speaker 1: him breathing, even though the crowd was going crazy. Do
Speaker 1: you feel that focused when you get out there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure you can hear it all. You
Speaker 1: know that the crowd's gonna go crazy regardless. But over
Speaker 1: the years, you know, you get used to that that
Speaker 1: you kind of filter that out. It's kind of you're
Speaker 1: just kind of focused on your job and responsibility at
Speaker 1: the time. So um like when you like it, like
Speaker 1: when when they line up, when offense lines up, you
Speaker 1: know that's boom. It's kind of like tunnel vision. Okay,
Speaker 1: now let's see what I have. Okay, what's the split?
Speaker 1: What what? What? Where's the back? Whereas its height end
Speaker 1: set or what's you know, you look at different things
Speaker 1: to give you different tips, different points and um on
Speaker 1: what's coming, because you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: they're running forward, you're running back, so so you better
Speaker 1: know something. What do this team need to do to
Speaker 1: be to be able to knock the New England Patriots
Speaker 1: off their perch. I've been on that perch for a
Speaker 1: long time. Well deserved, very well coached football team. They
Speaker 1: always got one of the greatest quarterbacks in the history
Speaker 1: of the game. And you can say the same about
Speaker 1: their head coach, and they do a good job of
Speaker 1: bringing people in coming and going. What does this team
Speaker 1: need to do to be able to knock them off?
Speaker 1: I would say the main thing for me is just
Speaker 1: compete at the end of the day, compete because if
Speaker 1: you compete all game, you know, people don't want People
Speaker 1: don't want that. People don't want that pressure, people don't
Speaker 1: want that smoke. Because if you're if you're just steadily
Speaker 1: pounted pound pound regardless what, regardless what's happening, regardless what
Speaker 1: the score is, people hate that. They don't like that,
Speaker 1: and you know, Tom Brady then like that, you know
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, So just go out compete, man,
Speaker 1: and finish finished. We had finished ball games better. We
Speaker 1: have to, you know, we have to start better, regardless
Speaker 1: what it is like. We have to do something. We
Speaker 1: have to find whatever it was that had a six
Speaker 1: and ten. We have to we have to find something
Speaker 1: that that that are flipping around. And I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about tennis six either, I mean better than that. What
Speaker 1: do you do now? What do you do now to
Speaker 1: hang out and just you can't play football all day
Speaker 1: and you can't you gonna watch film all day and
Speaker 1: so you've got a little spare time now between when
Speaker 1: when before things really start getting intense, what do you
Speaker 1: do to relax and just kind of chill out a
Speaker 1: little bit? I tend to I tend to hit the beach,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll hit the beach or um, I'll sit
Speaker 1: at home. I play video games. When you go to
Speaker 1: the beach those videos, I may have a swim chunks
Speaker 1: over those. Um yeah, I may play video games. I
Speaker 1: may you know, just you know, just be a kid again,
Speaker 1: you know at the end of the day, because like
Speaker 1: I said, you can't get a job because this is
Speaker 1: your job. So, um, just just try to take care
Speaker 1: of yourself. Man, I go home, I chill it home
Speaker 1: for a couple of takes and naps. You know, every
Speaker 1: you're training hard, you know you need, Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: have the midday nap. So um, just you know, simple
Speaker 1: simple things like that that that you know that that
Speaker 1: will carry throughout the day. I try to find things
Speaker 1: like like top golf, stuff like that. I really like
Speaker 1: top golf. I try to go like once a week
Speaker 1: and I get my swing on, but I sweep suck.
Speaker 1: I'm telling um, I'm really bad. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: just things like that. Man, I just take your mind
Speaker 1: off football, because this is all you got. This next
Speaker 1: a month or so, this is after that's own. So
Speaker 1: you've been you've been around here for a while, Bobby. Ever,
Speaker 1: can you ever find yourself day dreaming run down the
Speaker 1: highway or whatever and going, man, I'm playing in the NFL. Man.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes sometimes it's really surreal, you know. And it's
Speaker 1: a blessing. It's a blessing to be here. It's a
Speaker 1: blessing to have this opportunity because I know, I know
Speaker 1: guys that are my friends that that don't have this opportunity,
Speaker 1: that are good football players, you know. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's a blessing. You've got to take heat to it
Speaker 1: and um and go out every day and showcase while
Speaker 1: you're here. It's funny. I've talked to people like I've
Speaker 1: I've done talk to kids and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: I said, look, you know, I was fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: play college football, high school football, played in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I was never the best player on my football team.
Speaker 1: I've never been the best player on the football team,
Speaker 1: but I was able to do to to to reach
Speaker 1: the ultimate as far as football. Do you feel the
Speaker 1: same way yourself? Yeah, you know, you just at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, there's a lot of good football players.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, either I sprained my ankle, I can't
Speaker 1: play anymore, or whatever, a lot of coach doesn't like me.
Speaker 1: I've heard all that. I've heard all the excuses. But
Speaker 1: it's funny the guys that you pass up along the
Speaker 1: way that may have been really quite friendly, much better
Speaker 1: football players than you and I, but they just quite
Speaker 1: didn't have the DNA to get to get over the hump. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's something my parents they instilled to me
Speaker 1: a long time ago, you know, don't you know, try
Speaker 1: not to worry about the next man, worry about your man.
Speaker 1: And um, you know, like like you said, there's there's
Speaker 1: there's been teams, there's been guys on my team in
Speaker 1: the past that have been better to me. That's just facts.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I know what
Speaker 1: it takes, and I know how to work, and I
Speaker 1: know how to put the work, and I know how
Speaker 1: to like like you said, it's instilled in your DNA,
Speaker 1: just to get the job done at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, that's what it's all about. Man, If you
Speaker 1: can get the job done, then you always have a job.
Speaker 1: Let's get the job done this year, Bob. You know,
Speaker 1: appreciate what man looking forward to looking for the big
Speaker 1: stuff out either year. It's really happy to see what
Speaker 1: you did last year, and I know you're gonna get
Speaker 1: better at it this year. And uh, just looking forward
Speaker 1: to enjoy. I appreciate that. Thank you, Thank you. So
Speaker 1: Bobby became good guy. And you know it's funny because
Speaker 1: I knocked to Bobby about a week ago. I saw
Speaker 1: him at an event. We're talking today. I heard that, said,
Speaker 1: I heard that podcast that you do. Did we do somebody?
Speaker 1: And hear myself? And I said, oh, don't worry, we're
Speaker 1: saving you for later on better you. So where can
Speaker 1: I hear? And I said, you know where you can hear?
Speaker 1: I see you. You can see it on here on
Speaker 1: Apple Music. I said, you got the Dolphin app right though,
Speaker 1: off mobile app. He says, yeah, I got that. What
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear it on that right? You can here
Speaker 1: on Dolphins dot com. You can hear it on tune
Speaker 1: in radio, and you can hear it on I tunes.
Speaker 1: When you're gonna drop it, bo Huh, when's you a
Speaker 1: getta dropped today? It's gonna drop on Thursday evening. I think,
Speaker 1: good job, very good. Always all that stuff in there
Speaker 1: going and and whatnot. So anyway, Bobby great to have Bobby,
Speaker 1: and he always always a good guy, always always a
Speaker 1: guy you enjoyed talking to and always seems to have
Speaker 1: that smile on his face. Man, he's a fireball man,
Speaker 1: he really is. He is a fun guy to be
Speaker 1: and it didn't take long for him, Danny, Danny, I
Speaker 1: got back quainted. It was nice. So here's the other
Speaker 1: guy that's not gonna be no that that there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a bad day out there. That's everybody's dragging behind,
Speaker 1: Somebody pushes off, somebody holds. I haven't been to as
Speaker 1: many practice I like to, but uh, I know, speaking
Speaker 1: to you, Danny Amdola, he ain't letting he he ain't
Speaker 1: slowing down he's not letting up on that thing. Here's
Speaker 1: the guy who puts pressure on everybody every time. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, he reminds me going back. It
Speaker 1: was really was one of my favorite, uh favorite guys.
Speaker 1: He was. It was Davon Best. When von web Best
Speaker 1: was here. He love watching Davon practice because it didn't
Speaker 1: matter if he was running against the defender or he
Speaker 1: was just running against air. He I just kept but
Speaker 1: every time he ran around, he ran it with a purpose.
Speaker 1: He was always trying to trying to work one. Let
Speaker 1: me see if I can remember. Let me see if
Speaker 1: I can you know, kind of stutter and get some guy.
Speaker 1: He always was thinking about something, and I kind of
Speaker 1: get the feeling that Danny Avendola is the same kind
Speaker 1: of guy and Joe. You know, how do you know
Speaker 1: you have offensive day and defensive and practices and after
Speaker 1: a while comes this round veteran got the offensive. I
Speaker 1: remember the first day of John Gees come remember his offensive.
Speaker 1: Don't make it look bad. I gotta watch these. Don't
Speaker 1: make this practice going longer than the next days. Hey
Speaker 1: ge d day day, Well, you know, you know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come off. But then you get those guys that
Speaker 1: aren't they don't buy into that. There's they're just gonna
Speaker 1: bust it out on And I think I think both
Speaker 1: those guys are in the category and they kind of
Speaker 1: get an idea here after a while what each guy
Speaker 1: is gonna do and likes to do, and and you're right,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get frustrating, you know. You know what's been
Speaker 1: fun to watch between those two is the first couple
Speaker 1: of days. It was intense, and it was still New
Speaker 1: England Miami, and I think I think there was still
Speaker 1: a lot of that there. But as as practices as
Speaker 1: the O t as went on into minicamp, after a
Speaker 1: guy caught a ball, Danny a ball or Bobby more
Speaker 1: about Bobby going saying give me tap good route. Well,
Speaker 1: well you go from being now you you go from hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's work hard. Let's it used to be, let
Speaker 1: let me work hard so I can beat your ass
Speaker 1: on the field. Now it's let's work hards where we
Speaker 1: can make our whole team better. If you work hard
Speaker 1: and I work hard, we're gonna make everybody. Everyone else
Speaker 1: gonna see it's gonna make me better, it's gonna make
Speaker 1: you better and hopefully makes the rest of the team better.
Speaker 1: And that's the way. That's the way veteran guys they
Speaker 1: get teams better around them, and they get young guys
Speaker 1: to grow up by watching guys compete that way. I think, hey,
Speaker 1: let's get to some of these we've kind of haven't.
Speaker 1: We've kind of been busy the last couple of shows.
Speaker 1: We haven't really had a chance to get to the
Speaker 1: fan questions a little bit. And I gotta I gotta uh,
Speaker 1: I gotta email or a message or something from Facebook
Speaker 1: and said, you need to get to our fans questions.
Speaker 1: So here I am um Twitter uh oh Alonso eleven
Speaker 1: oh five. I wonder if that's one of Kiko's. We
Speaker 1: got about thirty five relatives that live down her. Kiko
Speaker 1: uh Smith is a very underrated seaving tight end Um
Speaker 1: durham smyth. Uh is very good hands and runs good route.
Speaker 1: He's a perfect confident to Gasecki. And that kind of
Speaker 1: leads into the conference conversation we're having a little before
Speaker 1: we went on the air, that Uh that those guys
Speaker 1: have a way to go. Those guys have a way
Speaker 1: to go to to to get to get comfortable with
Speaker 1: a with a scheme, get comfortable offensively because until they
Speaker 1: get comfortable with what they've got to do, where they've
Speaker 1: got to be, and how you react to guys who
Speaker 1: are playing against the defenders and everything, Um, you're not
Speaker 1: playing it, You're you're not playing at top speed. They're
Speaker 1: way behind the three guys, the three veterans, including two
Speaker 1: guys they picked up, one in the off season and
Speaker 1: one during the season. They're way behind those guys mentally
Speaker 1: right now, way behind. I can't even compete. Um, so
Speaker 1: we'll we'll have to see. Time will tell with those guys.
Speaker 1: I I I'm not gonna let I'm not gonna let
Speaker 1: a mini camp or an o t a practice where
Speaker 1: these guys are still trying to get their feet under
Speaker 1: the ground. Uh, you know, say, hey, you guys are
Speaker 1: bad picks. I watched these guys more than individual drills
Speaker 1: than I do and team because I know that what
Speaker 1: they expect out a team, you know, drills and seven
Speaker 1: on seven, see how they move. But individually, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to tell he's a rookie or
Speaker 1: he's a veteran. You know, we had what was the
Speaker 1: guy we had a while back to tighten the kid
Speaker 1: that got out of Missouri took me, took me good,
Speaker 1: good kid, but it took him about five minutes ago.
Speaker 1: I was this guy can't play. But but I don't
Speaker 1: think that's the case with he was what You're right,
Speaker 1: he was one of those guys standing up coming. Took
Speaker 1: him all day to come out, you like, I should
Speaker 1: ask Mike Sherman who it was. I would have got
Speaker 1: the name right. I don't know. I just didn't like,
Speaker 1: you know, I just didn't like his body. It wasn't
Speaker 1: about the guy like from a from a player's stand
Speaker 1: from a playing not a bad guy worked his ass
Speaker 1: off and and really with Dan Campbell working and became
Speaker 1: became a the most he could most out he cut
Speaker 1: out of the guy. But he just wasn't you know.
Speaker 1: But anyway, that was one of those that's one of
Speaker 1: those acorns that got an stepped on, the got overturned.
Speaker 1: But you should have missed that acorn. I think on
Speaker 1: that one. We had a few of those Tom More
Speaker 1: teas and Facebook, Jason Sanders wasn't the most accurate kicker
Speaker 1: during college. Does that concern you guys at all? Well,
Speaker 1: we talked to Darren Rizzy about it, and you know,
Speaker 1: he talked about how it looks sometimes these guys in calls,
Speaker 1: they don't get the best snapper, they don't get the
Speaker 1: best holder, you know, And now you get in the
Speaker 1: NFL and you got now you know, you can really
Speaker 1: judge a guy. And I think they're very high on
Speaker 1: Jason Sanders. They draft him in this last one with
Speaker 1: their last pick in the draft. Um, and everyone's wondering
Speaker 1: why you draft when you didn't have a kickers you
Speaker 1: had to draft someone anyway. But anyway, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: talking to Rizzy, I think I think I think coach
Speaker 1: Rizzy is very very high on him, and and and
Speaker 1: believe a lot that this kid is gonna be the
Speaker 1: real deal, you know, Bo. That's also one of those positions,
Speaker 1: as you know, it's one thing to kick him in
Speaker 1: practice every day, another in the preseason, and there's another
Speaker 1: one of those type ball games that count yep and
Speaker 1: and but the good thing is they don't remember, they
Speaker 1: don't have like remember when garyl was here, Garrol used
Speaker 1: to beat up those kickers, man, I mean beat them
Speaker 1: up they see you know they you know, the kickers
Speaker 1: always go by theirselves. And uh, you used to be
Speaker 1: a tribe of kickers, though now there's only like one
Speaker 1: or two, and they always bring a kicker and Garrow.
Speaker 1: You know. The first past Garo would go, hey, it's
Speaker 1: a little hot on your why'd you take your helmet off?
Speaker 1: It's okay, just sit on it over there, the guys,
Speaker 1: what should I put him on kicking? You know, not
Speaker 1: while we're over here. You don't need to wear your
Speaker 1: helmet just good and and sure enough about too much?
Speaker 1: Damn it? What do you do with your helmet off?
Speaker 1: It's bad, you know. The other one, and we talked
Speaker 1: about this for the RIZ. The other thing is like now,
Speaker 1: when a kicker messes up, nobody says a word to
Speaker 1: him on the side. Back in the old day, rip
Speaker 1: you got in mef by everybody offense alignment coming off,
Speaker 1: like we just went ten plays. You can't make a
Speaker 1: freaking kick. They would kill him, like coach, nothing to
Speaker 1: pick on Bob Kuchenberg. But Couch was old school and
Speaker 1: just felt like, that's all you do during practice. I
Speaker 1: don't want to know you just kick it through. That's
Speaker 1: all you gotta do. Yeah, he was tough man. Uh
Speaker 1: but but Couch was always a backup kicker too. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was the backup kick I
Speaker 1: think kicked when he was at Notre Dame, and he
Speaker 1: was a straight on kicker. I didn't even have Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm learning at year from uh Matt Snyder
Speaker 1: sixty five Twitter at Matt Snyder sixty five. Fitzpatrick is calm, cool,
Speaker 1: collective and all about business. I abviously love it. Can't
Speaker 1: wait for the season. Excited to see you ball, Minka.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're the only one out here that's
Speaker 1: uh that's looking forward to seeing this kid comes and
Speaker 1: and day one, Yeah, that's not's the guy that doesn't
Speaker 1: look like a rookie. That's right. And I want to
Speaker 1: say this now. He's the other way. He is involved
Speaker 1: in so many plays and he even looks it out there.
Speaker 1: He got that Don McNeil from the old days maclind up.
Speaker 1: Day one, he's ready to play and he's got that,
Speaker 1: so I gotta I Sometimes I'm like, okay, almost scared.
Speaker 1: He's too calm. Yeah you know what, he he's making
Speaker 1: plays already had he been here. I'm gonna hold back
Speaker 1: on not giving this guy too many. The one thing
Speaker 1: you do notice right away he looks the part he's
Speaker 1: always taking the right to angle. Like his angles are
Speaker 1: perfect in terms of he's never undercutting anything. He's never
Speaker 1: a way over the top where he can't make a play.
Speaker 1: And then he looks such he's under control. It's not
Speaker 1: like he's flying to get there, but he's already there.
Speaker 1: That's a funny thing about defensive player. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of defensive players over there and they
Speaker 1: just can't get the angle game down. They can't. You know,
Speaker 1: you see him, you know, guy kind of breaks around
Speaker 1: the corner and they take that bad angle and as
Speaker 1: soon as you see him, they're never gonna catch that guy.
Speaker 1: You know you can get you know, you'd be better storry,
Speaker 1: you better give yourself a little more room there to
Speaker 1: catch that guy. And you see some guys, know, some
Speaker 1: guys instinctually do it well and some guys don't. He's
Speaker 1: got it, but he's got it. Yeah, Austin pop p
Speaker 1: o p pe. How would you pronounce that you think
Speaker 1: he's Uh? I don't know, man, I don't know what Facebook. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm probably alone in this one. Uh, I'm probably alone
Speaker 1: in this one. But Bobby is my favorite player of
Speaker 1: the team. Every week, the camera always seems to find
Speaker 1: it because he brings it every game, every down. I
Speaker 1: love this guy. I'm assuming he's talking about Bobby and McCain. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we just kind of went through and I
Speaker 1: think we all kind of feel the same way about Bobby.
Speaker 1: And you know it, some guys, you know, you're watching
Speaker 1: a contract. You know, Okay, I got got a contract,
Speaker 1: you know, good for him. But Bobby, when I saw
Speaker 1: I was happy. I feel not just to get the
Speaker 1: guy not to feel good about round from a big
Speaker 1: school and and he went out and he earned it. Man,
Speaker 1: he went out and earned it. Uh finn f f
Speaker 1: finn fan eight nine off Twitter. You guys have any
Speaker 1: interest in coaching? I think the young guys could all
Speaker 1: use some old school football mentality. I got no interest.
Speaker 1: I've never had any interests in coaching. Joe, I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, but all I did, you know, from
Speaker 1: the time I saw how much these guys were and
Speaker 1: in the hours and especially when you get into this league.
Speaker 1: Now you little college was the same thing. You know,
Speaker 1: I want to play. I'm a route planner, you know.
Speaker 1: For I lived for twenty two years in California. I've
Speaker 1: lived here for the rest of my life. I want
Speaker 1: to plant roots. Man, I don't want to be and
Speaker 1: these guys you gotta be. You gotta become a bit
Speaker 1: of a vagabottom a little don't unpack. And I have
Speaker 1: great respect. I would never coach either. I got great
Speaker 1: respect because these guys, doubt they work a lot of
Speaker 1: hours and that's it, the work that goes I don't
Speaker 1: think people realize the work that goes in to being
Speaker 1: an assistant coach or had any coach at this level
Speaker 1: or at the college level, It doesn't matter. All those
Speaker 1: coaches are dedicated to the top. You gotta go through
Speaker 1: that you get to where you want to be. Well, well,
Speaker 1: you know what I remember. I remember talking to UH
Speaker 1: with Terrell Buckley and Lamar Lamar Thomas and when they
Speaker 1: decided they wanted to get into coaching, and so they
Speaker 1: you know, they went and those guys, I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: those guys went the long road. Man. They did high school,
Speaker 1: they did college, and then they worked there from small
Speaker 1: college and working. So those guys have put their time
Speaker 1: in and they're committed to it. But I just couldn't
Speaker 1: the time time spent. Did you mention recruiting? You have
Speaker 1: to worry about that thing to the other thing with
Speaker 1: these guys, is it you know, if you're a position coach,
Speaker 1: right every you know, nowadays everyone knows the head coach,
Speaker 1: an offensive defensive coordinator, but if you're the tight end
Speaker 1: coach or you're the you know, the your your assistant
Speaker 1: offensive line coach, no one knows who you are. You're
Speaker 1: you're anonymous. You still work just as artist everyone maybe
Speaker 1: more maybe more. You do all this stuff and games
Speaker 1: over and you're walking into a restaurant someone don't and
Speaker 1: no one even knows who you are or you know,
Speaker 1: they're just they're just there, which which you know, everyone wants,
Speaker 1: no one, no one's craving recognition. But every now and
Speaker 1: then you like someone to say, hey, hey, you guys
Speaker 1: did a good job, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And these guys, you know, they live in for the
Speaker 1: most part, they live in anonymity. I had the most
Speaker 1: fun going back to my high school at St. Thomas
Speaker 1: and coaching the young kids because the time was perfect
Speaker 1: for me, and it wasn't. It was two and a
Speaker 1: half hours, maybe put another hour the entire week trying
Speaker 1: to get a a couple of plays that they might
Speaker 1: remember and might help them out during the game, and
Speaker 1: that was fun. You know. I always thought and I
Speaker 1: always thought I was going to be a coach at
Speaker 1: some point until it felt like the coaches that I
Speaker 1: had were better fathers to me maybe, and they had
Speaker 1: more time, not better fathers, but had more time for
Speaker 1: me than they had time for their own kids because
Speaker 1: they were never home. And I felt like, man, if
Speaker 1: I get in that situation, I have a family, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough decision for me to make. Tell
Speaker 1: what that age group that John's talked about working with
Speaker 1: JV freshman and JB and freshman and sophomore they want
Speaker 1: to learn to they it's so much fun because you'll
Speaker 1: see them ten years down the line and somebody's yelling, hey, coach,
Speaker 1: and I'm not coaching anybody, and they come up coach,
Speaker 1: you know, and they kind of remember you, and and
Speaker 1: it's fun in my instance being at a school that
Speaker 1: these kids go on from high school to college and
Speaker 1: a lot of them, not a majority, but a lot
Speaker 1: of them play in the NFL. So you'll see in
Speaker 1: pregame coach New England, you know, or Brandon Winner is
Speaker 1: a center for Jacksonville. So that was that was my enjoyment.
Speaker 1: I got out of going back to coach a little
Speaker 1: little bit. You know what, It's funny you say that,
Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes you know, you get kids that
Speaker 1: are that young, you teach them something that changes their
Speaker 1: their game. You know, you know I can do. And
Speaker 1: I was just I was just at a at a
Speaker 1: at a reunion from my high school football team, and uh,
Speaker 1: and everyone got up and talked a little bit and
Speaker 1: this and that, and and I had one of one
Speaker 1: of my real good friends in on my high school team.
Speaker 1: And I hadn't seen for I didn't seen for probably
Speaker 1: twenty five years or so. And so we're talking. I said,
Speaker 1: you know what I said? And everyone, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you did this. And I said, yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: what I said, this is where I learned to play
Speaker 1: football with you guys. And I said, I'll remember, I said,
Speaker 1: I remember until the day I die. I remember one
Speaker 1: damn practice. I was playing tight end and and and
Speaker 1: we had a linebacker outside line and I couldn't hook
Speaker 1: the son of a bit to save my life. You know,
Speaker 1: we're running, We're gonna toss suite him. He's outside me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so and the coaches yelled at me, damn at Bocamper.
Speaker 1: Get get on the outside, get your head outside the guy,
Speaker 1: you know. So so after practice, everyone's walking feelings, Bow
Speaker 1: Camper and Gar see it. Get over here. So we
Speaker 1: come over and we sat and we stood in the
Speaker 1: field for about forty five minutes. And all I did
Speaker 1: was trying to hook this guy. He said, you line
Speaker 1: up outside of him, and you make it hard for him.
Speaker 1: And so I just over and over and over and
Speaker 1: over until finally that kind of figured out, you know,
Speaker 1: taking a wide step to get in the outside and
Speaker 1: being able to get around him. And so so now
Speaker 1: and and I became a better player. And and I
Speaker 1: still to this day when I think if someone said
Speaker 1: to me, what do you what do you remember that
Speaker 1: made you a good player? And I would say that
Speaker 1: made me a good player, that one, that one incident
Speaker 1: making a good player. But that's like you're talking about,
Speaker 1: where you get a kid that's at a at a
Speaker 1: lower level, you know, sophomore in high school whatever, and
Speaker 1: he just doesn't he just doesn't, and you teach him
Speaker 1: something that he can carry with him the rest of time.
Speaker 1: It it's significant to it looked to me I've done
Speaker 1: a lot of things in this game, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: these guys about that that's play. When I was a
Speaker 1: senior in high school. Jake Rudolph, he's a backup quarterback
Speaker 1: of the Detroit Lions. Now, I had him as a
Speaker 1: freshman at St. Thomas. Never played padded football in his life,
Speaker 1: always played flag football growing up. I put in half
Speaker 1: of the offense I had at Pitt half the offense
Speaker 1: I had in the Canadian Football League, kind of like
Speaker 1: run and shoot stuff. And he said, you know what,
Speaker 1: he goes coach. That helped me as I went along
Speaker 1: because I would didn't do a whole lot. And then
Speaker 1: we went to Michigan did a little bit more. But
Speaker 1: then I went in the pros and there was a lot.
Speaker 1: It's all the same principles. It's all about spacing, it's
Speaker 1: all about this. But you taught me that at a
Speaker 1: young age, and I just got better coaching as I
Speaker 1: went along to bans and stuff that kind of was there.
Speaker 1: So the basis the fundamental, Yeah, all of them all
Speaker 1: makes a difference. So yeah, um uh Twitter at mannamerous disps.
Speaker 1: Huh better ask Joe how how he would pronounce that?
Speaker 1: That might not be French. I always see names. I
Speaker 1: gotta wonderful maybe maybe maybe it's something dirty out there?
Speaker 1: What's that nam nam er, dispy whatever? R. I know
Speaker 1: you can't see much, but who was surprised? You guys
Speaker 1: there most so far? Well you with that freaking name.
Speaker 1: It's just surprised me so far. Disp um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm you get don't get right. I I didn't go
Speaker 1: to I didn't see any of the practice, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, but because I I just don't to
Speaker 1: me watching O T s and watching minicamp. To me,
Speaker 1: you know, I still put a whole lot of stock
Speaker 1: into it. And the reason I don't put a whole
Speaker 1: lot of stock in it, I remember being I remember
Speaker 1: playing in games Joe late in the season and John,
Speaker 1: where you're playing you know, you're playing, uh, the Jets
Speaker 1: on a Monday night and whoever wins gonna win the
Speaker 1: ANFC East right, And I remember being remember being on
Speaker 1: the field of times going remember those stupid freaking minicamp practices.
Speaker 1: They don't mean ship right, you know right now, they
Speaker 1: don't mean anything. So I kind of I'll give this
Speaker 1: me a couple of things that I saw. I think
Speaker 1: the wide receiver unit as a group is a lot
Speaker 1: of depth. I think Blage the running back is a freak.
Speaker 1: If he gets it down, he can really help with
Speaker 1: Gore and Kenyon. And in the back end, I think
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be funny how they use who's going
Speaker 1: to establish himself at the corner opposite X, opposite his
Speaker 1: Xavian house. That'll be something to watch during training. Do
Speaker 1: they kick Bobby out sometimes move Minka down, you know,
Speaker 1: for certain for certain schemes, certain teams, not all the time,
Speaker 1: but how they how that evolves on the defensive. That's
Speaker 1: funny because in the secondary that you talk about that
Speaker 1: because you know there, I think they've they've they've certainly
Speaker 1: got more depth now than they've had in the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. But they've also got more position flexibility.
Speaker 1: You look at they bring in Minca. Minca can play safety,
Speaker 1: can play corner, you can play slot, he can do
Speaker 1: all the different things you got Bobby. Bobby can play slot,
Speaker 1: Bobby can play outside. You know, uh, Tony Lip. It's
Speaker 1: the same way, you can play a different way. So
Speaker 1: they not only do they have more depth of quality players.
Speaker 1: You talk about Tank and X on the other side,
Speaker 1: and you've got a lot of good players in that
Speaker 1: secondary now, but you also got with those guys that flexibility.
Speaker 1: You play three. You know, you can play three safeties
Speaker 1: at some point, I think they're I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: see a lot of times where you may see all
Speaker 1: three you know, uh t J shod and make all
Speaker 1: out there and in some kind of a coverage formation
Speaker 1: can end up being a cover guy in the slot.
Speaker 1: I do. I think when they go dime and people
Speaker 1: go for wide, I'm not gonna be surprised to see
Speaker 1: him up in the slot covering and look at the Joe,
Speaker 1: look at the white outs. Uh, you've you've got now,
Speaker 1: Jachim is your fifth guy. I mean he's back solid
Speaker 1: and and and I said that this morning one to five.
Speaker 1: He's got veteran guys. And I'll tell you for the
Speaker 1: rest of those guys, you feel bad because you sound
Speaker 1: like it, I said, because they're making in Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: making pret Who can we keep if something were to happen,
Speaker 1: Because you've got Scott on the outside, You've got a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys. Lewis is out there. So here's a
Speaker 1: kid Morgan. This is a kid Morgan that made the
Speaker 1: theme last year. Um, and he was one of those
Speaker 1: guys you just couldn't get rid of because every time
Speaker 1: he did he smart kid knows what he's doing. But
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a monkey wrench in that in that thing.
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna he's you know, he's gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna make himself be known. He's got a figure away
Speaker 1: to make four keeping talent and one through five if
Speaker 1: there's no injury, no question. Yeah, roster, no question. Brandon
Speaker 1: James already talked about this. He comes in on Facebook.
Speaker 1: What do you guys consider our deepest position team? I
Speaker 1: think the secondary to me has got to be you know,
Speaker 1: with all those guys back the receiver position unackn I
Speaker 1: like offensive line to the offensive line. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: nice to be able to find you know, the stars here.
Speaker 1: We got depth depth. Uh. Jonathan acts Brenzinski from Facebook.
Speaker 1: I would have rather had DeMarco Murray over Gore, but
Speaker 1: Gore is local, so I get the decision. Um. I
Speaker 1: think I think Gore to me brings a lot more
Speaker 1: to the table. And just Frank Gore, he brings a
Speaker 1: guy that's that's really establishes a high end football player
Speaker 1: that's done it for a long time. Uh, he doesn't
Speaker 1: mind being a mentor to these guys. He's gonna work hard.
Speaker 1: He's gonna show you all the things de Marco Murray
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not his you know is knowledgeable about
Speaker 1: DeMarco and some of his personality trades. But I think
Speaker 1: you couldn't get a better from a personality standpoint, a
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna help your team and help other guys
Speaker 1: in that room. I just don't know how you do
Speaker 1: better than Frank. They want. Frank Gore is a workout
Speaker 1: machine man. He's in his mid thirties and he just
Speaker 1: keeps himself in great shape and wants to be great.
Speaker 1: They want those young guys to see that every day.
Speaker 1: I like what Adams said about him best. He saw
Speaker 1: him eleven years ago, saw him two months ago. The
Speaker 1: guy hadn't changed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt which which
Speaker 1: by the way, I remember when he got drafted to
Speaker 1: the forty niners, and I maybe that's where he went
Speaker 1: to Remember. I remember calling a buddy of mine and said, hey,
Speaker 1: I said, you got this guy, Frank Gore. I said,
Speaker 1: he's unbelievable, I said, I said, I said he had
Speaker 1: two knee injuries before the University of Miami that if
Speaker 1: he had not had those in when I said before
Speaker 1: he had those injuries, the best running back I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: maybe he was freshman. Freshman, couldn't wait for blowout. He
Speaker 1: was averaging ten to twelve yards to carry. But so
Speaker 1: this guy had too horrendous knee injuries. And I tell
Speaker 1: the guys to look, I don't know how he's gonna
Speaker 1: be at the pro level because he had he's had
Speaker 1: these two two knee injuries. But he was great here
Speaker 1: and he shoot, he went on to have a you know,
Speaker 1: Hall of fame type of career. That was the greatest
Speaker 1: thing about those UM days back then because the starter
Speaker 1: everybody sold this guy is great. You should see the
Speaker 1: guy behind him. And it went like that way for
Speaker 1: about six years. Ports mcgahey, James j Yeah, they just
Speaker 1: kept blow those guys. One of those guys would start
Speaker 1: and to go with wait to see the guy exactly
Speaker 1: exactly port Yeah, you see a blowout and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, this guy who tells that guy you know
Speaker 1: pretty good? Yeah, missed high school running back I've ever
Speaker 1: seen out of Coral ridiculous el Chopol Jr. To close
Speaker 1: it up from Facebook. How much does effect the scouting
Speaker 1: of a player when it can't wear pats and practice? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I've I've since since the new age of
Speaker 1: of of practices and stuff like that. I believe that
Speaker 1: if you're an offensive lineman, you have very little chance
Speaker 1: of making this making a league, getting this league if
Speaker 1: you're not a draft pick, or you don't or you
Speaker 1: don't have something extra special going on. Because if you're
Speaker 1: an offensive or deep sensiveligneman, when do you you know,
Speaker 1: when do you get to show off? If yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're a if you're an offensive lineman, you may never
Speaker 1: get to go live more than ten times during all
Speaker 1: of trainee camp, and and excuse me in preseason games
Speaker 1: because you nowadays, look, even when they put on pads
Speaker 1: in practice, you still aren't going live. The only time
Speaker 1: you're going live is on those preseason games. And you're
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman trying to make is a physical I
Speaker 1: just don't see how they you know that you have
Speaker 1: the chances of being that guy that comes out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: you know there you know and talked to that every
Speaker 1: time he brings up Ernie, your own Ernie rown. He's
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent out of h Henderson, Arkansas, Arkansas
Speaker 1: State and UH goal line drill one time, some guy
Speaker 1: drives over the top, blew him up, knocked his helmet
Speaker 1: back to where the coaches are standing. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: there he goes, Hey, who is that guy? And he
Speaker 1: ends up being a starting, starting in a linebacker for us,
Speaker 1: you know, after after it come as a free agency
Speaker 1: and he's not able to make that hit. He ain't
Speaker 1: making his team, you know, And so those guys miss
Speaker 1: out on on their chances. In today's day and age
Speaker 1: of the way they practice that evaluation for lineman so
Speaker 1: difficult because you can you can see one on one
Speaker 1: on the outside, the guy can cover, you know, but
Speaker 1: when pads come on, what do they I mean they
Speaker 1: wear pads five times six times a fourth preseason game.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of guys played well against Minnesota in
Speaker 1: that last game, fails through the ball, unbelievable, um Alan
Speaker 1: linebacker at a more than a like a dozen tackles.
Speaker 1: And that carries over, That carries over right now. Well,
Speaker 1: because those coaches as soon as they get in the plane,
Speaker 1: they're starting to look at roster numbers. Keep it and
Speaker 1: you know, the freshest thing in your mind is that
Speaker 1: last game, you know, and so some of these guys
Speaker 1: take advantage. All right, say we gotta wrap it up.
Speaker 1: I don't want to thank Jeff and and Logan for
Speaker 1: kind of getting us going through this thing. What about Leon? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I was getting to Leon. So these guys here, so
Speaker 1: we've been doing this, We did this podcast and Leon.
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen Leon around lately? From yeah? We
Speaker 1: never so yeah. I thought, yeah, I thought maybe he
Speaker 1: got trained to do another team. But anyway, he's still here.
Speaker 1: But but you know, Jeff did a good job, you know,
Speaker 1: Logan always Logan, I'm watching, you know, I've kind of
Speaker 1: been keeping an eye on on Leon over here. He's
Speaker 1: been on his phone text in. I think he got
Speaker 1: a new girlfriend, you know. Did you notice le a
Speaker 1: new rent? Yeah? He must. We're gonna end this show
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, you run it right out of here.
Speaker 1: Way to go, guys, next week