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The year is halfway over. 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how the fuck that happened. 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 4: Jesus you said that, and I'm like. 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: Like, are you halfway through your New Year's resolutions? 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 4: Do people still do that shit? You know, mean has 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: Twitter shit on it and off and people are like, 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: all right, this is I do. 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: I do goal setting, and I do goal setting and 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: envisioning every year. 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: I do as always. 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 2: Jenkins and Jones hosted by my good friends the Jethro 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: Jenkins aka John was Bubba's Dragonfly, Jones aka Tyler, everybody 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: of the good I'm GUARDI b aka Mike, and we 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: have got so much to talk about today. Malik Monk, 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: Patty Mills, Richard Rubio, it's free agency mania. 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: We won them. We need shooters. I'll take a Patty 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: Mills late. Where do you go? Where do you go? 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: What he's on? Wow? 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: I did my joke fucking intro about the three signings. 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: No one would care about it. I care about I remember, 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: hold on, I know Malik Monk left the Lakers for 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: the fucking Kings, which brats on getting the money. He's oh, 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: he's going back to the Nets on a two year okay, 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: two years fortune back to the projects. 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: Let's start there. 44 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: We've got an interview coming up later in the show 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: with Matt Sullivan, who is a recurring guest on the 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: show We Love Having On kind of got to become 47 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: an expert on the Brooklyn Nets dysfunction and is thus 48 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: a perfect interview for this specific moment in time. But 49 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: let's the three of us talk about it too. Tyler, 50 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: for the first time ever, you were contacting the Volume 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: staff asking yesterday, Hey, you need to tweet this video 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: out because I nailed the fucking ship out of this 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: net situation last week. 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: Bro. 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 5: I have never asked the Volume in the social idim 56 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 5: shit ever, but I was like, you love social Bro. 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 5: I was like, Bro, please give me this moment to 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 5: run this icture because motherfucker was on my head after 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 5: Kyrie opted in, Bro, And you know I took it astride. 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: The game is the game you tell your ship. 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 5: You gotta be able to take it when it comes 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 5: back on you. But yeah, I needed that victory laughing 63 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 5: that shit doing numbers. I think it's had like seventy 64 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 5: thousand viewers when I checked this out right now, somebody, 65 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 5: so I. 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: Love the I feel like this is the only quote 67 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: unquote talking headshow where you can discuss a somewhat controversial 68 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: situation and take for three minutes and most of the 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: responses I literally saw someone respond with fair take, right. 70 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't bro like it made so much 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: this I had pet my homie sent me like, Tyler's 72 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: so good at this HiT's maddening. 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, this is his actual job. 74 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Gee, Like, you know what I mean, He's really good 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: at that ship. 76 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. 77 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 5: Like I told you, I viewed the ship from the 78 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 5: scope of an HR disaster, and that's what I fucking 79 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 5: do for a living, basically, right. 80 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: That wasn't just a take, Nigga, is real life? Pay 81 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: you for that information? 82 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 5: Employee relations is real life over here, dog right right right? 83 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: It's my life, doubt for the way to live, though, 84 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: and you're looking out for mother fuckers. 85 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: You appreciate it, Bro, Tyler banging the HR set Bro 86 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: on the fucking podcast. 87 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 4: I love it. 88 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: All right. 89 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: Here's my question. Uh, it does seem we're recording this 90 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: Friday morning. It seems increasingly likely that Kyrie Irving is 91 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: going to force his way to the Lakers. I want 92 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: to know from you guys. I've been Uh, I'm pressed 93 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: on Kyrie and what I think you know, baby, baby time, baby, 94 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: something's on the podcast. 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: Oh get it? Yeah, I know. She's about the freestyle. 96 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: The light ship to me, Hi, Tony, she can't, He'll 97 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: say it. She was smiled at me. I had to 98 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: grab it. Of course you had to. I was like, Brocane, 99 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm a dad. 100 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: First I want you off podcast, or second I want 101 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: you off the show. 102 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: Have I have robbed the whole baby swing in front 103 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: of the microphone for the get out of here? 104 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: She got her rather? Has she has her night or 105 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: sleeping clothes on. 106 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: She ain't doing that, man, She's too classy. She will 107 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: never let anybody see her like that. Bad decorum, Bad decorum. 108 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: All right. 109 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: My my question on basketball is, uh, I've been fairly. 110 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: I've been more vocal with you guys than I have 111 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: been in public because I don't like being a basketball 112 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: media person who's like this guy is bad for COVID 113 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: messaging and all this. But as you guys know, I 114 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: was like really personally bothered by a lot of this 115 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: ship Kyrie did in particularly like on the on the 116 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: Indian reservation and everything I thought was really to me. 117 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 2: When you're being disrespectful and you're fucking with poor people, 118 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: it's difficult for me to take you seriously as a. 119 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: Human being or whatever. 120 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: As soon as I heard he might go to the Lakers, 121 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: like obviously, my brain just completely dissipated and was. 122 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you started noticing the money he gave to 123 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: the people that I was talking about. 124 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: Like I you immediately supplies that he gave what is 125 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: our what is my slash hour? As people who care 126 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: about the world, but who also feel a need to 127 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: like some of the sports for my escape ship as 128 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: a sports writer. I understand some of that, right, Like 129 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: I do understand some of that what's what? What's my moral? 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: Am I a bad person? If I literally go from 131 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: I think this person's a bad person to I can't 132 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: wait to take my son to see this bad person 133 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: and broad us a person just a person. 134 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 5: I mean, you can still be on some fun kyrie 135 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 5: for that shit he pulled, but you know, let's go Kyrie. 136 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: You know what, you know you can have some duality there. 137 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: I believe middle Brown Jones, I appreciate you. 138 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: In the conversation, I would saying, yeah, fuck that, that's 139 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: some bullshit, you know what I mean. But when it 140 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: comes to that basketball, that round ball he has, that's 141 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: a God holding that thing. 142 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: You feel me, Let's talk, you know what I'm saying. 143 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, man, I appreciate it. I appreciate you carving 144 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: out space for me. 145 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: Guys, we always, we always got a love for you. 146 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: Guard my basketball, My my basketball. Dick betrayed my brains. 147 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. Head, We've all been there, 148 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: bubbas O. 149 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah for sure. Well you said what we're gonna 150 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: We're taking a break. If he goes to the Lakers 151 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: mid show, You're gonna need a minute to collect yourself. 152 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right to the bathroom a little personal time. 153 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: You feel me shave, but instead of the losa, you 154 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean, making special. 155 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 6: Little little light the candles way, you know, like the 156 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 6: candles with a dimmer in the bathroom too. 157 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: Might have to hit that thing. You know. 158 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: The craziest ship. 159 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: I ever saw on Twitter was someone talking about putting 160 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: the lotion in a bowl and throwing it in the microwave. 161 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: Bro. Twitter, Twitter is disgusting. Twitter is successful. 162 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell y'all some ship I probably shouldn't and 163 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 7: after this, maybe you can take it off the pod 164 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 7: if you think it's But I was told a banana pill. 165 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: I hurt that too. I beat that putting that pill up. 166 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: I didn't take it. You you tried it. 167 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: I thought you were just immediately just but I tried it. 168 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 5: Did you eat the banana before using the pill? Because 169 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 5: that makes this even wilder if you did that. 170 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm not. I don't. 171 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 5: I didn't waste the banana. So you ate a banana 172 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 5: the whole time prepping to fuck the pill? 173 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: Like this is madness. 174 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: I think it changed my hate banana because that was 175 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: because rather than a brother would making fun of me, 176 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: because I really just pulled the banana out and take 177 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: the pill off completely and eat it. 178 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: It may have in that moment. 179 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 6: I was like, squeeze a bat, try to keep the 180 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 6: pill intact. 181 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: No, but it's I was like I had to be 182 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: in like eighth grade or something. 183 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: Anything that happened in middle school is perfectly. 184 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 4: We were the worst versions of myself in the moment. 185 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 186 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm like because I you know, there's some movies coming 187 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: out when people were you know, embarrassing themselves early, and 188 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to, you know, get taken out in 189 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: the first quarter. 190 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, fucking you. 191 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: I mean, we've just we've discussed what a horrible time 192 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: middle school was. But you fucking you see a woman 193 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: that the fucking grocery store fucking ninety steps deep in 194 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: your head. I'm told in a second, bro, that was hell. 195 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: I do not miss being ruled like mormones, like even 196 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: in high school. 197 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Like I catch him, I get a boner out of nowhere, 198 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, tap, someone look at this. 199 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: And make a jump in the fucking classroom. 200 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 6: I'd be miscrowding this class, like. 201 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: All right, what are we talking about? 202 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: Well, do we have anything else that we didn't cover 203 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: with matt On Kad or Kyrie? 204 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: What what do you guys? 205 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, obviously it's looking like Kyrie 206 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: to the Lakers is more and more likely. I just 207 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: don't buy that there's a way to make that happen 208 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: with Kydie and Krie, although Windy has floated that, and 209 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: I am a Windy Hive guy at this point, you know, 210 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: I think he's a viable and he's a Green party 211 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: alternative to Wojan Shams. You know, I'm going third party 212 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: for the first time ever in my life with on 213 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: the Windy Hive. But but I don't, but I do 214 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: think that that's a bit of a stretch. So if 215 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: Kyrie is gonna be a Laker, knock on wood, what 216 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: do you think with KD? Is this gonna happen with 217 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: him going to Phoenix? If he does end up in Phoenix, 218 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: does that flip things? 219 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: I don't. Personally, I don't know. I don't really know 220 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: that I think that it does. 221 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, although that would be a 222 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: really intriguing team, what do you think about the balance 223 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 2: of power as far as where he's going? 224 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 5: When I heard that the Nets had no interest in 225 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 5: having aydon you know, that kind of made me shift 226 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 5: my my thinking that Miami probably landso because I mean, 227 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 5: it's basically gonna be pat Riley versus fucking Sarber, Like, 228 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 5: who do you think is gonna win that? Who do 229 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 5: you think is gonna you know, fucking you know, drop 230 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 5: their nuts harder to make this shit happen between those two. 231 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 5: I'm putting my money on Riley here. 232 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. 233 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: The thing with me is like they need more than 234 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: just Booker, right, you know what I'm saying, Like for 235 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: that trade, you're not trading Booker for Kdi's straight. 236 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 4: Up, Booker and book are off the table. 237 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 5: That's who can tell you that's that's okay he wants 238 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 5: to play with I'm sure, but I mean that. 239 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: But I think I think the Nets said they wouldn't 240 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: trade with the Phoenix unless Bookers involved in that, and 241 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: I get that, How the fuck are you not going 242 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: to evolve Bookers? 243 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: Well, but we'll see with the trade market. 244 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: The longer that this drags on, we'll see what the 245 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: next where it's. 246 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: Like, well, yeah, we'll figure something. Yeah, Uh, I get 247 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't. I have no idea. 248 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: I have no idea. I'm not even to pretend to 249 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: make up some ship right now. 250 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have no idea because I 251 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: think I think it seems like the Suns. But you're 252 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: saying that they won't involve Bookers, so that's not gonna 253 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: happen without Booker. 254 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 4: I have no idea. 255 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: Maybe he should go to the Lakers. 256 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: They talked about that they didn't want to give up 257 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: what like unprotected picks? 258 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: Is that what? What was the line was a thht again, 259 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: that was the line that they drew in. 260 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: The same PhD. 261 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 2: Who I really like is a basketball player is rapidly 262 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: becoming my least favorite player ever because he could have 263 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: in the same way that I love the baby Lakers, 264 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: because they turned into like mighty more power Ranger style, 265 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: they turned into Anthony Davis. Thhd's refusal to turn into 266 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: Demartin de Rosen or Kevin Durant's really making me resent 267 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: him in a way that's not fair to him at all. 268 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: They're treating THC like the Heat treated hero, you know 269 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: what I mean, But aage like eight points a game, bro, 270 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: Like you know, that's. 271 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: Our little buddy, right right right. 272 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 4: I don't know what he did, but. 273 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: The Lakers clearly had a philosophy yesterday. Of clearly they 274 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: watched the games last year where we were just watching 275 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: guys who looked tired for a whole fucking season around 276 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: Lebron James. They apparently thought Lebron James was the rule 277 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: and not the exception of old dudes playing basketball for 278 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: a living. 279 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: So they made a distinctive. 280 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,239 Speaker 2: Effort to get younger and more athletic and more energetic. 281 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: As a fan, I like that because I'm hopeful that 282 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: at the very least, if we suck, it won't be 283 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: so boring, which last year was just boring. 284 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: It was just hard to watch. 285 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. 286 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: But do you think that they got They didn't really 287 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: add any shooting. They're still small at the wing. Do 288 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: you think that they added enough to get into the playoffs, 289 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: maybe make a little noise. Obviously Kyrie's the big wild 290 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: card that's still out there. But do you like what 291 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: the Lakers did yesterday? 292 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: Who they pick up? Who they pick up? 293 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: Lonnie Walker was the mid level, which I didn't necessarily 294 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: think was the. 295 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 5: I didn't necessarily what Walker solid. I'm not mad at it. 296 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not exuberant about it. 297 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the thing. 298 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna keep Brown from going 299 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: out sad again. 300 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: But who else? Oh? 301 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: Damian Jones? 302 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, obviously Jta from the Warriors, who is not 303 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: an impact player, but who's gonna sell a fucking billion 304 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: jerseys in Los Angeles? The first Mexican player. I think 305 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: that the Lakers will have picked up uh in quite 306 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: some time. Oh, they're they're trying there trying to sign 307 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: right now as we're recording. They're trying to sign Thomas Bryant, 308 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: which would give them a I mean, it would be 309 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: a much much better excuse me, much much better front 310 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: court they signed, uh Troy Brown Jr. 311 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, I mean it's those are nice little fill 312 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 5: out the roster, and those aren't moves that make your 313 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 5: team incremental, you know, exponentially better or anything. 314 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: But you know it's solid. There was some solid movement there. 315 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: But assuming that the Kyrie deal goes through and you're 316 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: looking at Kyrie bron A, d are Lonnie Walker, Troy Brown, 317 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: Junior Dave, I mean, are those the pieces that you need, 318 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: because obviously you'd have a pretty big big three at 319 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: that point if those guys are available on playing. 320 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I'll put a lot of confidence in 321 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: those guys in moments that every really matters, you know 322 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: what I mean? 323 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 4: So I'm not I got. 324 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: I gotta see, I gotta see, I gotta. 325 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: See, man. I mean. Also, I'm wondering what y'all think 326 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: about this. 327 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: If they were to get to that, for that KD 328 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: Kyrie trade to exist, they would have had to give 329 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: up a D. What do y'all think should have been 330 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: done or what would y'all have done in that same Yes, No. 331 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: Unequivocally I would have done that. 332 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 5: I wouldn't I would have Why not because because I 333 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 5: mean for him in twenty twenty. 334 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's that too. 335 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 5: And like I said, it all comes back down to 336 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 5: you know, your your your franchise's image. You can't do 337 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 5: a D like that after you just sold the whole 338 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 5: fucking house to bring him on. He's supposed to be 339 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 5: the guy who's taking you into the post Bron era. 340 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 5: You know Kd's old ass, ain't he ain't taking you 341 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 5: into no post bron nothing. Yeah, you you can't move ad. 342 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 8: No. 343 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: Here's the only reason that I say. 344 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: He just doesn't stay healthy. 345 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you can really rely on 346 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: him to do anything with you know, post Bron. 347 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: And honestly, if he's not playing. 348 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: You know, he couldn't do He hasn't done anything with 349 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Broun in the last two years because he hasn't been 350 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: able to stay healthy. They're the Lakers, don't I don't. 351 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: They don't have to exist, you know, the same way 352 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: the Nets do. The Nets are trying to be somewhere 353 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: people want to go. And in history historically people have 354 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: wanted to go to l A. You know what I mean, 355 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: Because you're not just coming to the Lakers. You come 356 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: to LA as well, and you know they will win. 357 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like this guarantees a chip 358 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: or two. I would I would imagine if they would 359 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: have put those who would have come, so I mean, 360 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: I would do it. 361 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 4: I would do it. You know what I'm saying. 362 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: I say, anybody not named Lebron Ramon, you know, James Senior. 363 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 4: Hey, you know what I'm saying. 364 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: Everything Tyler said is correct, like they you know what 365 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: I mean. And when they brought a D in the rollout. 366 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: Was here's the future right here here, here's our next guy. 367 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: And you can't you can't do that. That being said, 368 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: the injury thing, you know, I think it's overblown a 369 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: little bit. 370 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting that that sticks to a D 371 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: in a way that it doesn't stick to Kawhi and 372 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: Kyrie and and other guys who are less of ailable 373 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: than ad. 374 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: It's just because he's. 375 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: So big and soft looking and he's always falling down 376 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: that anyone who watches him play basketball gets angry at 377 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: some point, right whereas Kawhi just goes, I'm out for 378 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: the next six months. So you don't see that kind 379 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: of like physical you know what the fuck is this 380 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 2: guy on that you see sometimes with a D But 381 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: I would say the only reason I would say yes 382 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 2: is Kevin Durant. 383 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: It's the only person I would say yes. 384 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: Four. But if you have a chance to put Bron 385 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: and Katie and Kyrie Irving on the court together, I 386 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. 387 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: We'll figure the image out. We'll figure the image out later. 388 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: It'll be fine, though. 389 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 4: The image will be fine. 390 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Those three, that image to the image problem for the Beatles. 391 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, You'll be okay, But I 392 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: mean the thing with Ad with them getting them rolling 393 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: out the red car. But to be the future, you're 394 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: supposed to be the. 395 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: Guy now, like you've got to be the future team, 396 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Yeah, you have to you know, 397 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: you have to be it. 398 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 1: And he hasn't been that we insane for the for 399 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: the even the twenty twenty Chip. We were saying, for 400 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: them to win, a d has to be the best 401 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: dude on the court, and at points it seemed like 402 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: that until the finals, when Bron was like, all right, 403 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: I'll press the gas. 404 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: Thanks for getting me here. Yeah yeah, yeah, now it's now, 405 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 4: it's now, it's my time. 406 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: It's my turn, I'll drive the last leg right right right? 407 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: I got this, you feel me? We get no time 408 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 4: for play play anymore, you know what I mean? 409 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: But like the last two years he hasn't been available, 410 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, and then this year when he was available, 411 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: he did not look anywhere near like the best player 412 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: on that team, you know what I mean. And he's 413 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: still trying to figure out what position he wants to play. 414 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: It's like you know he has it's it's too. 415 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: Much going on. 416 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 4: I mean, we know we're getting out of KD. You 417 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 4: feel me. I mean, outside of them playoffs, but. 418 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 6: Uh, his career, we knew he was getting out of KD. 419 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 6: J All lean on there, you feel me? 420 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: Okay, last last basketball topic before we get to the 421 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: interview with Matt. The Supermaxes are super maxing. It's fucking 422 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: the quarter Billy Boys is now a fucking NBA club. 423 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: Jokic gets the biggest deal ever. It's worth over three 424 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. 425 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: It feels like racism, even though he's incredibly fucking good, 426 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: and I get he deserves every damn time. 427 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: But he's paid player in NBA history. Feels the type 428 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: of way in my spirit, you know what I mean. 429 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 2: Here's my here's my question off that time are not agreed. 430 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: Here's my question off the off the topic. Is it 431 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: racist for Jokics to have the biggest deal in NBA history? 432 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: That was literally. 433 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 5: It's all about timing, bro like like, yok is top five, 434 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 5: Yogic just top five. 435 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's top five. 436 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 5: It's it's fucking you know, whatever order is bron Yanni, Steph, 437 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 5: KD and yok in my book. 438 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, and he's the one who signed the super 439 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 3: Max this year, so. 440 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's all about Tommy. He will not have 441 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 5: that distinction for long. 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All right, we're excited to 470 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: welcome on a recurring guest on Jenkinson Jones Matt Sullivan 471 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: wearing a very agreeable abort alito hat that I think 472 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: all three of us fuck with heavily. Matt is skullduggery 473 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: on Twitter. He is the sports guy at Rolling Stone, 474 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 2: and he is the expert on all things brooklynnets dysfunction, 475 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving dysfunction. He's mister implosion. 476 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: Matt. 477 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: Welcome to the mister. 478 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: I like that. 479 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 8: Good to be back, Good to be back. 480 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: So good to have you on answered. 481 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 5: Oh so, uh, spill the tea, sis, What's what's What's 482 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 5: some insider information that you might have that we are not. 483 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: Privy to the floor is yours? Spill the tease? 484 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, I think we all knew that 485 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 8: Kyrie was uh was in a fight with management, right, 486 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 8: I mean, he is a he is the ultimate believer 487 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 8: in the entertainer controlling his or her own destiny. Right. 488 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 8: He rocks with like Naomi Osaka, all of that kind 489 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 8: of do your own thing, fuck the agency. And there 490 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 8: was definitely a play by Josi, who's a master negotiator, 491 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 8: Ali Baba, the Amazon of China all this, and and 492 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 8: Sean Marks, who's basically sucked up to KD and Kyrie 493 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 8: since they got there, since Kyrie handed them Kevin Durant 494 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 8: on a silver platter. Right, They're going to suck up 495 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 8: to Kyrie. Let him do what he wants. But I 496 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 8: honestly think that the vaccine stuff just pissed off side 497 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 8: for long enough. Had to you know, blobby for him 498 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 8: with the mayor, have him in, have him out. And 499 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 8: by the time that Kyrie contract negotiations came up, they 500 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 8: were ready to play hardball. They were ready to take 501 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 8: some of the power back. And I think KD, in 502 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 8: being one of the ultimate proprietors of player empowerment, threw 503 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 8: a hard line himself. Right, y'all, don't manage me, y'all, 504 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 8: don't tell Kyrie Irving what to do. He is a 505 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 8: god of this game. You give him the max money 506 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 8: because he is a superstar Hall of Famer bar none. 507 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 8: And when you start messing with that, you start playing 508 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 8: with fire. And honestly, I just thought it was a 509 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 8: little bit of smoke, not fire. And this is now 510 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 8: a raging burden the house down, NBA dumpster fire to 511 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 8: the nth degree. And it's fun, man, It's gonna be fun. 512 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you I didn't. I didn't think Katie 513 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 5: was bluffing for a second when he said that KD 514 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 5: is not a dude who says shit just to hear 515 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 5: himself talk. 516 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: Bro. 517 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 5: If he says something, he means it, you know what 518 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 5: I mean. So as soon as he said, like, you know, 519 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 5: get shit right with Kyrie or I'm exploring my options, 520 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 5: I thought it was time for the Nests that there 521 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 5: all that hardball shit out the window. It was time 522 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 5: to take all their base out there. Boys after that point, 523 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 5: right like like it was time to go from Kyrie, 524 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 5: We're not standing for this anymore. To hey man, we 525 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 5: talked to KF Kyrie and we're gonna get this done. 526 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 5: You want to come through the like I really, I 527 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 5: really think that's what they misstepped here. They built KD 528 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 5: was a dude who was, you know, just talking to 529 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 5: hear himself talking. He's not that guy at all. 530 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 4: Bro. 531 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 5: That's why it's Twitter so fire. Whenever he talks, he 532 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 5: has something to say, and he met every word of 533 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 5: this shit as we see. 534 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 8: That's what's up. I just thought his public posturing to 535 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 8: it was more like, well, I haven't been talking to 536 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 8: the team for weeks because I've been on vacation, which 537 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 8: he likes to do, or I haven't you know, been 538 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 8: he hasn't been recruiting players on the side because he 539 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 8: doesn't want to fuck with tampering rules. 540 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: But it was real. 541 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 8: He was despondent. And you know, KD has done this 542 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 8: seismic shifts thing obviously many times, and I think he 543 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 8: has no no problem with rocking the entire league. And 544 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 8: this is gonna be the biggest trade in NBA history 545 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 8: coming up. I mean, the fact that he's signed for 546 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 8: for four years, and you know what I think is 547 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 8: underrated in this guy. Guys, it's not just Kadie's obviously, 548 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 8: like being able to pull that lever of ultimate power 549 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 8: just being an al teimer, but Kyrie and loyalty playing 550 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 8: a big role there in that KD was willing to say, 551 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 8: if you're not gonna max out Kyrie, you don't respect players, 552 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 8: I'm not going to stay with this franchise. But at 553 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 8: the same time, Kyrie's trying to get back to Lebron James, right, 554 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 8: I mean, we're not talking about that enough that like 555 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 8: we may be about to see that ultimate reunion. And 556 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 8: so Kyrie basically like is bailing on his one buddy 557 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 8: who's maybe like the second best player in the league 558 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 8: all timer for Lebron. Right, it's just like we're kind 559 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 8: of sleeping on that that Kyrie is about to go 560 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 8: play with Lebron again. I mean, he's forcing his way 561 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 8: to the Lakers. It seems like an inevitability at this point. 562 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 8: Nobody else wants him. Westbrook's a nice you know, got 563 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 8: to get asses in seats in Brooklyn. So it's that 564 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 8: Kyrie was playing behind the scenes and knew that at 565 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 8: the same time that Kd's maybe I don't know, knows 566 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 8: that DeAndre and could do a sign and trade or something. 567 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 8: They're getting what they want. But but Kyrie, I think 568 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 8: is ultimately the catalyst for a lot of this erratic change. 569 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: Shocker, they're saying that Katie and Kyrie want to play 570 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: with each other and there was a chance that they 571 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: both go to the Lakers. 572 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: I don't think it's It sounds like Rob Polinka won't 573 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: give up a d which I think is what that 574 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: would take for the Nets. Unfore, I would love it 575 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: if we could get those guys to the fucking Lakers. 576 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 8: Obviously, But yeah, I mean, you gotta be careful with 577 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 8: with a lot of the smoke screens here, right, Like 578 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 8: I love Brian Windhors, but you know, he's got Rich 579 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 8: Paul in his ear, and Rich Paul might be trying 580 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 8: to orchestrate something where he can get all of his 581 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 8: guys together without having to sell out a D. I mean, 582 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 8: I'm sure that's Lebron's dream, right, I mean we talk 583 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 8: about sell them, I mean year, I mean, to what 584 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 8: extent is Lebron pulling a lot of strings here, right? 585 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 8: I mean we got to realize that he can send 586 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 8: Kyrie into into battle to say we'll get the super team, 587 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 8: We'll get do an Ad and the band back together. 588 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 8: But I think KD the Lakers is a stretch. I mean, 589 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 8: the asset's really there. I'm sure Sean Marx would like 590 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 8: to pull off some fourteen trade to get you know, 591 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 8: eleven draft picks and become the new Oklahoma City Thunder. 592 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 8: But it's a long fall from where I started with 593 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 8: this franchise. That the Nets are going to be back 594 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 8: into super oblivion. Super oblivion. Man, it's going to be 595 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 8: the ultimate plosion. I wouldn't be surprised if they got 596 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 8: rid of Simmons too. I mean It'll be interesting to 597 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 8: see how much they really care about him, because if 598 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 8: they get him off the book, then it opens up, 599 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 8: you know, some some trade flexibility for the out of 600 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 8: bios of the world. You know, Carl Towns, dearon Fox, 601 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 8: Shy Gildas, Alexander, guys like that. They're stuck in a 602 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 8: tough spot right now. It'll be interesting to see how 603 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 8: much KD just says now, I don't want to play 604 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 8: at this place. No, I don't want to play at 605 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 8: this place. Oh you like brendit Ingram, Well, I don't 606 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 8: like New Orleans, So you know, I don't think. I 607 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 8: don't think he has any bones about being that guy. 608 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 8: I just saw James Harden do it right right in 609 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 8: front of his face. 610 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, but how much, SAYSOL do the players I 611 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: have in these situations? I mean, you know what I mean, 612 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to play here. We don't give a fuck. 613 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna get this guy for you from you going there? 614 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Good luck, you know. I mean, that's what it would 615 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: seem like when it comes to business. He doesn't have 616 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: any stipulations that prevent him from going to certain cities, 617 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: So how does it work in these situations? 618 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 8: I mean, Kevin Durant has led the way of player empowerment. 619 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 8: I think Lebron obviously set the precedent, but that was 620 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 8: really a free agency thing. And I think KD has 621 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 8: been able to shamelessly, obviously go to Golden State, shamelessly 622 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 8: give up on them. And I just don't think that 623 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 8: the superstar, the super duper star, gives a shit about 624 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 8: what his contract says or what any GM says. And 625 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 8: I think this move by KD, this flex seems from 626 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 8: the Kyrie loyalty aspect to be as much about players 627 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 8: declaring their power. Kevin Durant saying gms and owners got 628 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 8: nothing on me, and this isn't there are never going 629 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 8: to take the power back. This is like player empowerment. 630 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 8: I don't know, three point oh, four point oh. And 631 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 8: he's setting a standard. Yeah, you know, it's not just 632 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 8: James Harden winding his way and you know, widening his 633 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 8: waistband way toward towards Philadelphia. I think KD got pretty 634 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 8: sick of him. But it's like, you know, if you're 635 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 8: in the mood to disrupt the entire NBA, you can 636 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 8: do that and it doesn't matter about contracts, and it 637 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 8: doesn't matter about what you're leaving in your trail. I 638 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 8: don't think KD feels any loyalty to management anywhere to 639 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 8: leave them in a good space. 640 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: Well, and I think like Tyler hit it on the head, 641 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: and you just hit it on the head with the 642 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: player empowerment. The thing here with Kyrie and KD is 643 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: I think everyone understands those guys would sit in the 644 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: entire year if they don't go, you know what I mean, 645 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: Like they'll sit the entire year they don't give I don't. 646 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 8: Know if KD can go an entire year without hooping. 647 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 8: He's a pure hooper. He wants to win, I think. 648 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: But if they don't move him, he's not playing for 649 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: the you know what I mean. 650 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: Like to your point on the player empowerment, like he 651 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: he and Brown have understood. 652 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: And Kyrie as well. 653 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: We hold the cards because it's our body, like we 654 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: are the like we are your whole product. 655 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: Then we talked about in the last part. 656 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: But the NETS ticket salespeople are now selling court side 657 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: seats to fucking Ben Simmons. Like that's not what they 658 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: were selling. 659 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: I look at it like this. 660 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 5: I think the NETS have to send KD where he 661 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 5: wants to go because you know, at first they didn't 662 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 5: want to fold to Kyrie. Now they're going to have 663 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 5: to fold to KD. Because I think that if you 664 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 5: send Kevin fucking Durant to Sacramento or some shit, what 665 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 5: does that do for? How are future free free agent's 666 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 5: gonna look at you right like they're gonna look at 667 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 5: you like, okay, if she goes South Thust, they are 668 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 5: not gonna honor my which is at all about where 669 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 5: I want to go if I want. 670 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 4: To split down. 671 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 5: So I think that that they are back into a 672 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 5: corner now. Like I said, they didn't want to fold 673 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 5: to Kyrie, but they're gonna have to fold to KD. 674 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 675 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 8: Facts, and if they have to settle for Scottie Barnes 676 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 8: and Sam, that's gonna have to be like a three 677 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 8: or four way. They're not. Kevin Durant did not flex 678 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 8: this muscle to get shipped to fucking. 679 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: Canada, right. 680 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: But he wouldn't even buy a house if you want 681 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: to Sacramento, Like he would never leave Brooklyn. 682 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 4: He would even show up in the fucking city. So 683 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Right? 684 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: But here, So here's my question, and I'm asking as 685 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: basketball fans, because I think all four of us are 686 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: people who prefer human beings to billion dollar corporations. I 687 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: think all four of us see the benefit of the 688 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 2: player empowerment era, and I've been in open cheering for 689 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: that for basically the entire time this stuff's been going on, 690 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: even with some of the crazier stuff that's happened, as 691 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: you mentioned with James Harden. My question is, as basketball fans, 692 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: everyone's talking about this is going to snap back really 693 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: hard in the next CBA that the ownership of the 694 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: league is just like not seeing this as a tenable situation. 695 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: I understand their point at this point not tenable, but 696 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: as fans of basketball, for Matt and for John and 697 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: for Tyler, like, do you like this aspect of free 698 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: to to? Do you like the Hey, contracts don't mean anything. 699 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: Guys can force whatever they want. Like, are you enjoying 700 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: it or do you see maybe the ownership point that 701 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, have you got four years on a contract, 702 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: Maybe we could expect you to play one of those years. 703 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: You know, where do you come down on it? 704 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 4: As I thoroughly enjoyed it. 705 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 5: Ain't my mother fucking money, ain't no basketball going on 706 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 5: right now. This shit is exciting, that's all we got. 707 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: I love it. I ain't gonna lie to you. 708 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: I mean, the. 709 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: Content is crazy over the last week. The season has 710 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: been over for three weeks, but we're still talking about 711 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: this shit. And I don't give a fuck about a corporation. 712 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, what type of a nigga? 713 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 4: I look like? You know what I'm saying, like, I 714 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 4: want the players to do what they want to do. 715 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 4: Good for that. 716 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 8: And as a long suffering Knicks fan who headed into 717 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 8: nets world, you know, it just was an extension of 718 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 8: what I learned the Bleacher Report. This is a players league, 719 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 8: and that's a good thing. This is an Instagram world, 720 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 8: and that's a good thing. You can love Steph Curry 721 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 8: and Kevin Durant at the same time, and you can 722 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 8: love this drama and hate them the next minute. I 723 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 8: just think what's interesting is that ownership claims to kind 724 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 8: of get that right. Like Joe Say was saying last 725 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 8: year that you know, I'm just reading from my book. 726 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 8: They're they're literally megastar is very very powerful. So you 727 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 8: can't treat your players as employees anymore. They're your partners 728 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 8: in the business. Which is what I think Kyrie Irving 729 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 8: signed up for. Right, He's like, Okay, here is a 730 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 8: Jersey we can control, here's a franchise we can run. 731 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 8: And he's consistently said that. Right. It's like he said 732 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 8: it when we need some pieces, you know, when everybody's worried, 733 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 8: is gonna like throw the Joe Harrises of the world 734 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 8: under the bus. When he got there, and as recently 735 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 8: as him just getting swept after not playing that well, 736 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 8: he's like, yeah, looking forward to managing the franchise in 737 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 8: the off season with the owner and the longtime GM. 738 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 8: But but I don't think that this this owner in particular, 739 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 8: who will be maligned by you know, Nets fans the 740 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 8: world over for years. I think that partners in business thing. 741 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 8: He threw out the window and started treating Kyrie like 742 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 8: an employee once Kyrie was acting like a bad one. 743 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: Everyone likes the players are partners when they're reaping, and 744 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: when they are sewing, it's not so fun. 745 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 5: I think I think it goes back to this, you know, 746 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 5: I think lots of people forget that Kad and Kyrie 747 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 5: were Nettes before Josi was Like, Josi came on board 748 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 5: and both the Nets months after they came on board. 749 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 5: And I think a lot of owners, damn near all 750 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 5: of them, I'd say, they do not get into sports 751 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 5: ownership to foster healthy employee relations. They get in there 752 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 5: to impress other rich dudes and these and Josi felt 753 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 5: like a laughing stop around the other is shoes, and 754 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 5: I felt like he felt like he had to, you know, 755 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 5: get some of some you know, get his reputation back 756 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 5: and play hardball with Kyrie. 757 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 4: And now it's gonna cost them everything, it looks like. 758 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 8: And these gms, honestly, man will do anything to save 759 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 8: their asses, anything to save their jobs. And if that 760 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 8: means one moment you got to be at Kd's doorstep 761 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 8: and the next moment you gotta be doing exactly what 762 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 8: your billionaire boss tells you to do because he's upset 763 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 8: with the other guy. They'll do anything to save their asses. 764 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 8: And I think now Sean Marks has to reinvent this 765 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 8: franchise again. And it's just sad because like when I 766 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 8: bought this thing for whatever, three point five billion dollars 767 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 8: including Barclays Center, you thought, well, he thought that they 768 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 8: were going to be the next Warriors, that they were 769 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 8: going to be this international franchise that would sweep in. 770 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 8: And when Darryl Mory sent that stupid fucking twelve, that fine, 771 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 8: perfectly fine tweet that screwed over the rocket says like 772 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 8: this Chinese empire. I think he thought that they were 773 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 8: going to be these ambassadors to the world for years 774 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 8: and years and years. And I mean the Nets we're 775 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 8: supposed to win like a three peat, and here we've 776 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 8: just had disaster after disaster. And I'm not sure you 777 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 8: can blame the state of the world over the last 778 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 8: three years. I'm not sure you can keep blaming COVID 779 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 8: or injuries or what have you. I just think the 780 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 8: championship mentality, that elusive accountability and culture and over the 781 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 8: last few years has had to do it being flexible. 782 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 8: And then Nets we're not flexible enough. 783 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: I know, stipulations were gone from like the last few years. 784 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: If any Kyrie complained, you know what I mean, like 785 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: he could play now. So it's just really weird. Did 786 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: they want to press that? And it talking of like 787 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: Mike's original question, like, you know, we saw what happened 788 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: with Blake Griffin. Would they sign the man and sent 789 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: his ass Detroit right after that? I don't you know 790 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like so dog like Katie doing this, 791 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: do it is KT use your power. You are a 792 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: god to player, act like a god, you. 793 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 794 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 8: I believe that, and I don't think he owes anybody anything. 795 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 4: You know. 796 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 8: I was reporting my book. I remember talking to just randomly, 797 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 8: Gordon Hayward was sitting around before a game and he 798 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 8: was hurt, and I was asking about player empowerment was 799 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 8: kind of the theme of my book, and if he'd 800 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 8: never talked to and and then I just told him 801 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 8: what the book was about, and I was doing it 802 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 8: kind of through the nets. He's like, oh yeah. When 803 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 8: I was a free agent, KD called me up or 804 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 8: I texted with him, and he's just like, you don't 805 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 8: know anybody anything. Do what you want, you know, because 806 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 8: he felt bad leaving Salt Lake City, like players hate 807 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 8: playing in Salt Lake City, like hate those racist fans 808 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 8: understanding me. 809 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, even though white guys hate playing in Salt Lake. 810 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 6: City, even the Haywards of the world. 811 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 8: That I thought that was an interesting philosophy that KD 812 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 8: would spread that gospel around the you don't know anybody anything, 813 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 8: and you know, he got hated on for going to 814 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 8: Golden State. I mean, like, what if somebody does pull 815 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 8: off some crazy super team trade to the Lakers or 816 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 8: the Sun's like, yeah, hell yeah, he's ring chasing. He's 817 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 8: a winner. That's cool. He's allowed to do that. 818 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: What's intersted about the Warriors thing too, is like how 819 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: much money Katie made going to Silicon Valley. He's a 820 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: fucking billionaire now or future billionaire, you know what I mean. 821 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: So whatever that hate is, you know what I mean, 822 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: he's he screws McDuck, right, he'll be I you know 823 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: what I mean, blowing coins out his bill, you know. 824 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 4: What I'm saying. 825 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 3: Well, that's all would be curious to me and Matt. 826 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: You obviously you know no more about his mindset than 827 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: we do. But if you look at the moves he's 828 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: so far made that he controlled. Obviously, he had no 829 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: say in the Sonics moving to fucking Oklahoma, but he 830 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: chose to go to the Bay and New York. And 831 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: as a guy who for is obsessed with basketball as 832 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: he is, he's a really savvy business guy outside of basketball, 833 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: and he's chosen previously with his last two moves, to 834 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: go to places there where he can maximize that where 835 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 2: there's a lot of non basketball business stuff going on. 836 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: I was kind of surprised to see. 837 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 2: Him talking about Phoenix as sort of the top destination, 838 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: just because as I get maybe a snobbish California and 839 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 2: I just don't see Arizona the way did I see him. 840 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 8: But I think I think Kd's enterprise is kind of 841 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 8: on autopilot. You know, he he's there as involved as 842 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 8: he needs to be. He sits in a meeting and 843 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 8: signs his name. I think, you know, whatever you think 844 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 8: of Rich Climan, he's certainly gotten rich off of this situation. 845 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 8: And I think KD above all, above any deal, above 846 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 8: any whatever boardroom content like podcast, which is also kind 847 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 8: of propaganda for him, is happy to just go to 848 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 8: play with Monty Williams so we liked. You know, he's 849 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 8: played with before, loves soup, and play with Chris Paul 850 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 8: get a ring. I mean, that's that's It's that fundamental 851 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 8: for this dude. I don't. I don't think he really 852 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 8: he knows, he's aware of seismic changes. He an X, 853 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 8: but he does it for himself. I don't, and I 854 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 8: think he does, like I'm not sure Kevin Durant is 855 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 8: gonna be out here preaching, you know, we need to 856 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 8: take the power back, like Kyrie is having these cryptic 857 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 8: Instagram posts with the Infinity emoji. Like Kyrie is literally 858 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 8: like a walking version of that new emoji that's a 859 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 8: smiley face that like melts into the ground. 860 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 9: Right, I mean helping micro does in his way through 861 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 9: the crypto dot com for at least a year. 862 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: As long as that jumper falling, I'm cool, man, that's incredible. 863 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 3: All right, Matt, thanks for hopping on with us. 864 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 4: Man. 865 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 3: We greatly appreciate it. 866 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: Uh, you've got a scoop dropping tomorrow, so everyone check 867 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 2: out School Duggery on Twitter. His new piece for Rolling 868 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 2: Stones coming out. I'm assuming you're not allowed to talk 869 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: about it, but it sounds very exciting. So I'm looking forward. 870 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 8: To basketball related I think we could all use a 871 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 8: mini brick from the Incessant soap Opera that is our 872 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 8: wonderful sport here. Appreciate you, guys. 873 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 2: Thanks to Matt for hopping on with us. We love 874 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: having that guy on. Very excited for very excited for 875 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 2: that story tomorrow, which I think I'm not allowed to 876 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: talk about what it is, but it's gonna be very cool, 877 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 2: So follow Matt on Twitter school duggery. Before we move 878 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 2: on to I do have one nonsense topic, but I 879 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 2: have one last sports topic to get to first. Did 880 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: you guys see that USC and UCLA joined the Big 881 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 2: Ten yesterday? 882 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 4: Yes? That is interesting to say the least. What are 883 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 4: your thoughts on it? 884 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 5: As a lifelong California might Well, I think John. 885 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: Just said the only word that is I mean, the 886 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: whole story of it is the word profitable, right, And 887 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 2: I think this is the direction that college sports are 888 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: moving in of increasing national It's the direction. 889 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 3: Everything is moving in of increased nationalization. 890 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 4: Right. 891 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 2: If you're good locally as a media company, as or whatever, 892 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 2: you're going to get bought by a national company and 893 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: they're going to nationalize whatever you're doing. There's not really 894 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 2: like everything's moving away from regionalization. And I understand it 895 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 2: from a media move The PAC twelve network is ass 896 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: you have a USC football team that's trying to become 897 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 2: a top five program in the country again, and you 898 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 2: have a TV channel. 899 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 3: That I have a I have a hack. Just to 900 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 3: be honest, I have a hack to direct TV box. 901 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 3: I have a box. 902 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 2: I guess every channel that's available and I don't, and 903 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: I don't get the PAC twelve network because it's not available, right, 904 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 2: Like you, you're trying to be a national brand and 905 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 2: your conference is so incompetent that they can't put together 906 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 2: a real media deal the way that all these other 907 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 2: power conferences have the shit. 908 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 3: So from that perspective, I get it. It makes dollars. 909 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 2: So it makes sense from the perspective of as you 910 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 2: guys know about me, Like we don't just cover football 911 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 2: and basketball like I cover, I cover college softball, I 912 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: cover college women's basketball. You're telling college softball players they're 913 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 2: flying a fucking Maryland for conference games, Like. 914 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 3: You know, you're their. 915 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 2: Entire conference is a four to five hour flight away 916 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 2: for every road game that you're gonna play in every 917 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 2: sport at UCLA, not just football, basketball, but in every sport. 918 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 2: You are going to fucking Midwest for your close games. Like, 919 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 2: I don't see how that makes sense as a whole. 920 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: And the reason that I don't see how it makes 921 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: sense is because it does not make sense. 922 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are a couple of guts that had about it. 923 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 4: One was college college is rooted in like regionalism. 924 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 5: That is the appeal of it, Like you know, the 925 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,959 Speaker 5: SEC is the biggest fucking football in the country because 926 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 5: it's all on that fucking you know Southern you know, 927 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 5: fucking yeah, but you know, perimeter there right, Like, like 928 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 5: U and C Duke is the best robbery in college 929 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 5: basketball because they're fifteen minutes apart. Ohio State Michigan is 930 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 5: the best robbery in football because they're one state over from. 931 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 4: Each other in Alabama Auburn Alabama. 932 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, And and I just don't I think the further 933 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 5: you move away from that, the less college starts to 934 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 5: make sense. And another thing I took from it is 935 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 5: for you know us, and you see like two programs 936 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 5: who have been you know, scrambling as of late in 937 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 5: regards to landing you know, five star California kids into 938 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 5: in terms of basketball. I feel like this is I'm saying, 939 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,479 Speaker 5: fuck basketball, We're leaning into football because you're not gonna 940 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 5: sell a LA kid on. 941 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 4: Hey, you know, come to UCLA. 942 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 5: I know you dreamed, though, I know you grew up 943 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 5: dreaming about playing IOWA, right Like, that's what type. 944 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 4: Of fucking pitch is that? That is not that that dog 945 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 4: ain't gonna hunt. 946 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: But but the teams in the Pac twelve ain't the 947 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: same no more, like you know what I mean, like 948 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: those rivalries within there, like they're not they're not the 949 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: same anymore. So even if you the teams you dreamed 950 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: of playing are not those teams anymore. You feel me so, 951 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: but I get it completely. 952 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 4: But it's like that conference as a whole. It's just 953 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 4: it's stinks now, you know what I mean. 954 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 3: I think and I don't. I don't think they're done. 955 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 2: I think you'll probably see I'd be surprised if Oregon 956 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 2: and U dub are still in the PAC twelve. I'd 957 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: be surprised if staying for you, you know, yeah, look 958 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 2: your Arizona. 959 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: Your Utah, your Colorado su Sorry yeah yeah you as 960 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: now we don't want you, y'all can stay. I mean, 961 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: like they didn't like the was it the was it 962 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: the big twelve, big twelve, big seon whatever. They just 963 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: signed like the biggest media cond like with billions of dollars, you. 964 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, yes, so much well, and I 965 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 2: mean it came out yesterday like ten minutes. 966 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 3: I mean, what was crazy to me was the speed 967 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 3: of it. 968 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 2: It was reported that they were talking about it and 969 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 2: then the ship was signed like five hours later, which 970 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 2: is insane to me. You know, but within like a 971 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: half hour of the deal being signed, it comes out 972 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: Apple TV is talking to the Big ten about you know, 973 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, now Apple TV is like, oh, 974 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 2: now it's a national coast to coast brand. Let me 975 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 2: throw a billion dollars that are misyndicated like that. 976 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 4: Like that's what it's But that's what it's about. 977 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: That's what they care about from the business sign Like 978 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: that's impressive to see them make that move. And then 979 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: it get get more bread on these on this side. 980 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: But you know, like like Tyler saying from like you know, 981 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: the back, like a sports fan side. 982 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 2: Bro, come on, man, I know what I mean that, 983 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 2: Like as everyone one has access to the same Internet, 984 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 2: the same streaming programs, et cetera. Like we're the we're 985 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: the youngest people who will walk the earth even when 986 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 2: we're eighty. We're the youngest people who watched the Bulls 987 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 2: because we got the channel the Bulls were on right right, 988 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 2: like straight up people three years younger than us. It's 989 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 2: it's it's a completely different media experience and I think 990 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 2: that that's what's driving everything in sports. Like I know, 991 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 2: none of us follow soccer particularly, But you guys remember 992 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 2: that they were going to form that super league that 993 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 2: was going to be like the best teams from the League, 994 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: the best teams from Germany, the best teams from Italy, 995 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: and ultimately, because those countries are a little bit less 996 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 2: capitalist than us, the fans of those teams were able 997 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: to make enough stink about that that it killed the deal, right, Yeah, 998 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 2: we don't have that in America obviously. Shit, just what 999 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 2: the corporations want to do, the corporations are going to do. 1000 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 2: But I did think as that was happening. I have 1001 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 2: a lot of friends who are big soccer fans who 1002 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 2: are like, this is criminal, you know, like whatever happened 1003 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 2: to country and love of all this other stuff? And 1004 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: for me is a dumb casual sports fan. I was like, well, 1005 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 2: I think soccer is cool, but it's too complicated for 1006 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 2: me to follow because it's all these fucking leagues and 1007 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 2: all this other shit. You put the best eight teams 1008 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: in the world in the league. I watched that shit. 1009 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 2: You know, the games are on her predictable time, so 1010 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 2: I feel like that's what it's about. Uh, And yeah, 1011 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 2: I mean, best of luck to the fucking lacrosse teams 1012 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 2: or whoever that are catching six am flights to be 1013 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 2: in places for a one pm game on the East Coast. 1014 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,479 Speaker 4: I never really watched. I mean I watched. 1015 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: I didn't watch the Pac ten after like Arizona wasn't 1016 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,919 Speaker 1: running shit, you know what I'm saying, Like the years 1017 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: when UCLA. 1018 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 4: Was good, Arizona was good. 1019 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: Like I didn't watch it probably in like ten years, 1020 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: fifteen years or whatever. But like the Big East with 1021 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,399 Speaker 1: them breaking that up, that hurt me because I love 1022 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: the Big East. Tarty was my favorite conference, honey, in basketball, 1023 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 1: you know, I mean it. 1024 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 4: Was always fucking fun. 1025 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: And so I mean people that are fans of like 1026 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: the Pac Pac twelve like that, you know, I get it, 1027 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 1: but I mean it would sucked. 1028 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 4: But like, yeah, I mean so if it's like the 1029 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 4: Big East. 1030 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: I can understand, like it's the fucking But from a 1031 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,959 Speaker 1: business standpoint, Jesus Christ, that is. 1032 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 4: A lot of money and a lot more money will 1033 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 4: be made from that. 1034 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 2: But all right, last topic, disgusting topic. I apologize to 1035 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 2: bring you up. But Carl Cologne at Den's Underscore four 1036 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 2: point fifteen tweeted yesterday and I've just resent this tweet 1037 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 2: to the group chat stupidly went to a rib food 1038 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 2: truck and ordered ribs, not knowing they were plant based. Yeah, 1039 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 2: never again, bruh. I want you to just look at 1040 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 2: the ribs and tell me what your first thoughts are. 1041 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 4: Those are snickers. 1042 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 3: That's a twist. 1043 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,839 Speaker 4: What the fuck is that? Bro? 1044 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: That's a veggie stick. That's a mazzarella stick drowned in 1045 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: fucking barbecue sauce. 1046 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 4: That is horrible. 1047 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: It is abysmal. And my country ass feels disrespected that 1048 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: you even called it a motherfucking rib. You know what 1049 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean? Shut that motherfucker down. That is false advertisement. 1050 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 4: That's a lot. This is fucking horrific. 1051 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 5: That Okay, the most disrespectful shit ever done, the ribs 1052 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 5: I've seen in my life, because because for one, you 1053 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 5: didn't smoke those motherfuckers, you baked them. 1054 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 4: You baked a stick of. 1055 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 5: Fucking tofu and put some goddamn sweet baby rais on 1056 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,280 Speaker 5: it and called that ship ribs. 1057 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 4: Getting the fuck out of here. Fuck that man, ain't 1058 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 4: no rib in that rib? Where is the rib? Where 1059 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 4: is the bone? I need an animal bone in that motherfucker. 1060 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 4: Where's the rib in the week ass ribs? 1061 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 1: Nigga, that is a fucking tofus tick that is barbeque 1062 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: tofu bitch ash nigga. Let's jump this motherfucker. Where is 1063 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: this sat drop the drop the leg. We should protest. 1064 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 4: Outside and that ship. They are lying to the people 1065 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 4: and we will not stand for it. Those are ribs, 1066 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 4: those those hard ribs. 1067 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 6: Where's the rib? Where's the rib? Prove to me there's 1068 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 6: a ribbon there. 1069 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. 1070 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 3: Ribs are not supposed to have corners. 1071 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:03,240 Speaker 10: They are roll corner sharpest. Fuck, this is a ninety 1072 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 10: degree angle on the motherfuckers. If your rib has a 1073 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 10: right angle, it's a wrong angle. 1074 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 4: A curve in that motherfucker. 1075 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,919 Speaker 6: Corn bread look weakest hell too. God damn little ass 1076 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 6: bitty piece of corn bread. 1077 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 3: Well, if it's. 1078 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,720 Speaker 2: Vegan, they had to make the corn bread with nothing 1079 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 2: that you would normally use to bake something. 1080 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 4: It's gotten up, you. 1081 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 1082 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 4: So it's all that. 1083 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 3: Ain't that? 1084 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 4: Ain't it that? Ain't it? You know what I mean? 1085 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 3: Come on, man, I felt. 1086 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 2: Like it was especially offensive for him to be served 1087 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 2: that at the start of fourth of July weekend. 1088 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 3: Also, like, this is a sacred this is a sacred 1089 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 3: meat holiday. 1090 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 4: Bro, You ain't got a lot st poke balls. You can, 1091 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 4: you know, keep it real natural over there. 1092 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 3: Well, ribs, we. 1093 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 2: Won't all of that bullshit, Okay, you mean all right? 1094 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 2: That's all the time we got. We are taking the 1095 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 2: weekend off for the holiday weekend. Tyler, Are you grilling 1096 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 2: this weekend? 1097 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 4: Oh? You already, no doubt you. All right. 1098 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 5: I'm actually doing some ribs, you know what I'm saying. 1099 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,399 Speaker 5: So real, I'm gonna show you how. I'm gonna show 1100 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 5: you some real motherfucking ribs. I'm gonna do some ribs. 1101 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 5: And I got some some some jerk sauce from my 1102 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 5: Jamaican spot, like fresh from Jamaica. So I'm gonna do 1103 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 5: like some some jerk chicken skiers too. You know what 1104 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 5: I'm saying. I'm gonna give that a whirl. So yeah, man, 1105 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 5: it's it's gonna be a motherfucking celebration over here. 1106 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 2: I love fucking Jamaican jerk chip. We have a Jamaican 1107 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 2: spot opening up in Long Beach. It's the first time 1108 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 2: we've had a real Caribbean spot opening up, Like a 1109 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 2: husband and wife from Jamaica opening a Jamaican spot up 1110 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 2: in Long Beach in like a month. 1111 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be there fucking. 1112 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 2: When we went to Philadelphia for the pen Relays, which 1113 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: was the blackest ship ever, by the way, talk about 1114 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 2: that ship that yeah, it's yeah, the most fun sporting 1115 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: event I've ever been to. 1116 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,720 Speaker 3: It was tracking track and fields. 1117 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: So it was Jamaican's everywhere and they were just I mean, 1118 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 2: the jerk Chicken was like it was the jerk Chicken 1119 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 2: is in the air. 1120 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 3: It was fucking it was everywhere, and this ship is 1121 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 3: it was so good. Bro. 1122 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 2: Any they got try and get out here is nothing 1123 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 2: like what they had out there. They just and they 1124 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 2: eat that shit for breakfast. 1125 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: At my last creepy before I moved here, you know 1126 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, there was like a right off 1127 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: of is It Washington, there was a little Jamaican spot 1128 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: I always went to, and me and my grandmother every 1129 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: two weeks when I was in the Saint Louis we 1130 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: went to. 1131 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 4: The Palm Tree. The Palm Tree, you know what I mean. 1132 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 4: You know she's a big smoker, so smoke for sixty years, 1133 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? 1134 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,240 Speaker 1: Big hot, but yeah, yeah, And I also I remember, 1135 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: like like in high school we would go to like 1136 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: the club. 1137 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 4: There was this dude that only was Jamaican. 1138 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: So we get some junk chicken right before we walked out, 1139 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: right when we walked out the club. So you know 1140 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: what I mean, go party two and dance, so we 1141 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: sweat walk out, grab some jerk chicken. 1142 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 4: Bro, I missed some country ass times, good old days, babe. 1143 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 4: You feel me all right? 1144 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 3: Wishing everybody good holiday weekend. 1145 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 2: We'll be back midweek next week and then on I 1146 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 2: think probably a fairly regular schedule going forward in the summer. 1147 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 3: Unless it doesn't work out that way. We shall see 1148 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 3: and we shall see what we shall. 1149 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 4: See how we gets traded. 1150 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 2: If Kyrie and k d land on the Lakers. I 1151 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 2: am pulling up to this zoom chat. I don't give 1152 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 2: a fuck what time is. 1153 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 4: I don't know when when Bron went to the Lakers. 1154 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 4: I ran through the street. I was in mid City. 1155 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 4: We got them. We almost got jumped on Twitter. But 1156 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 4: we're good. We're fine, fine, j'all. 1157 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,879 Speaker 3: Bye bye bye