1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you. Why and look over there? 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes, goodness, it's a moment in time, 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: I must say and inform everybody that this is one 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: of those guests. I'm just gonna go right into it, 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: get right into it, because we don't have a minute 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: to we don't have a minute to spare. In the 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: words of Brook Ashley, Um, this is one of those 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: guests that we've been meaning to have on for a 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: long time. But let let me start off and say that, Yeah, 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: it's also that thing of wow, the podcast has now 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: like allowed us to meet someone that I love so much. 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not even kidding you, I said to Bow 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: and I was like so many not to be Lady 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: Gaga about it, but since memory in terms of like 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: I remember places I've been when the music was playing. 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: I remember one time I touched down in Los Angeles 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: while Somebody, um, Somebody Loves You was ending and I 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: was like, I'm ready to to like be here. It 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: was like the first time I came to l A. 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: And I was like listening to my comfort losing our 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: guests and I was like, yes, it just kicked off 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: the trip good. I'm just all things like that are 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: all over. I have that. I have that for sure. 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: It was walking down Atlantic Avenue, old old apartment, five 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: years old, just about high society, okay, and I was like, yeah, 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: and this is I remember why. It was like a 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: cold day. But it's like, no, I'm feeling great. No, 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: And this is the thing. The catalog is rich. It 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: is a rich catalog for me. It's like this, where's 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: the greatest hits, Where's the greatest hits. It's warranted, It's 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: warranted already. Volume one. I'm telling you, I think Ignored 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Me is my favorite song of all time. We have 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: wasted no time. The standing is like we're a fount 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: right now, We're truly a fount. I don't think it's 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: been like this ever on the pod immediately like let's 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: just there's no like banter, no, because I don't think 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: anything else matters. What do you remember, Like I think 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: it was like two or three years go. I think 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: I saw our guests perform, Like I went to wherever 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: they were doing a pride event. I was like, well 41 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: that's where I'm going, right right right, this is New York. 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: This is New York, baby, And I remember an iconic 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: long blonde wig. That was happening, and I know you 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: remember it, and that was that was the same I 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: saw Normandy at that show, you remember the one. Oh 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: my god, she's being very respectful. Listen. And here's the thing. 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't want that. I want this guest to come 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: over here and stomp on my neck and spit in 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: my mouth. Every Okay, we're just gonna get get into it, 50 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: because the guest is a is an incredible, incredible musician 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: that we love so much. And I mean, like, just 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: like it's just it's just fruitless to even say everything 53 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: that like has been created by this person because it's 54 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: this is someone very very very meaningful to the community. 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Just let's just get into everyone. Welcome, Betty, this is 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: it is a happy I'm vibrating. I'm so excited to 57 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: be energy when you walked in. Yeah, there's a lot 58 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: of energy. No, it's not even there, not a lot. 59 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: It's just it was the right it was the right 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: sort of flavor of it. I give good hugs. I 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: also think that's really calling cod because she's a large lady, 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, so it's like rest of your head on 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: my bosom, and I would have I've got a strengthen 64 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: my yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my gods to it. Yeah. 65 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: Can you guys connect over this this this show. Yes, 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: it was an HBO Pride show. Yes, yes, and it 67 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: was so fun and I'm forgetting who else was there. 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: It was you, Normany and Leland and I remember you 69 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: in this long I've never seen you in hair like 70 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: love half and really it was it was giving you 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: a new doesn't that's my that's that wigges is called 72 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Brittany name. She's a bangsi um sort of little situation 73 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: and she's past the breasts because normally I haven't. I 74 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: have an angular face, so I lose myself in too 75 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: much hair. I have to be strategic. I've learned the 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: hard way. But there are wigs that do and don't 77 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: work for me. So a bang is great, A bank 78 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: frames my face well. And so a lot of my 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: wigs are bangs, Maggie, and they're either like a short 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: Bobby said, you have a lot of fun colored yes, 81 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: bobbed fringeing. But then Brittany is a really powerful one 82 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: and she's she's it long and I she was in 83 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: the share video. I was in a share video and 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: Brittany made Brittany was my hair in the share video. 85 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Brittany. I feel like, now here's the question, 86 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: are there different versions of Brittany or is there one 87 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: Brittany that gets maintained. Now, that's the one Brittany that's 88 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: like her in age of them have names, you know 89 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's that's Brittany Club. I have 90 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Charlie's which is the which is Brittany, but she's shoulder length. 91 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: It's very atomic blonde. Yes, um, I have it's unoriginal, 92 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: but I have Blue Ivy and Pinky and that's my 93 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: blue wig and my pink wig I have. I have 94 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: a Mary Joe and it's a bang ponytail set in. 95 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: Mary is the the bang and Joe is the pony. Yes, 96 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: Mary Joe is a great one. Oh my god, artistry 97 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: even in the naming of the conventions of the wig. 98 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: I mean, this is listen, this is the right podcast 99 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: for this company. Absolutely. I know that I'm reading the 100 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: room really well for the conversation about wigs. Um, but 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: hair has been very cathotic and spiritual for me as 102 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: as a lady who has had short hair my entire 103 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: adult life, right right, So that has I am perceived 104 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: a certain way often, So hair is like when I 105 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: was in a tougher spot in my life, especially in 106 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: like in my relationship to my career, hair would be 107 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: what I when I was like, I don't really feel 108 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: like going on stage. I don't feel like being myself right, 109 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: And a wig comes on and I'm like she, and 110 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I'm on stage and like, 111 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: I don't. I think now I have a different perspective 112 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: on it, and I think I'm really trying to like 113 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: ground down into myself and not escape myself. And so 114 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: I've actually the wigs are like in their bags in 115 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: the closet. They haven't been out. The wigs are the 116 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: wigs off for playtime. But I consider myself a professional 117 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: performer now, and like wigs, I've gone out of a 118 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: phase where now I'm like, I want to be me 119 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: and I was so afraid of that for so long, 120 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: and the wigs were the wigs were healing for me 121 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: because I was like, this makes this fun again, and 122 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: I need that. That's really really interesting because I've I 123 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: think all the time about how like your parameters change 124 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: when your hair changes whatever. But this is something that 125 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 1: hair journey you feel you literally feel like a different person. 126 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: And like but even like you know, like you talking 127 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: your actors talk about like, oh, like Natalie Portman shaving 128 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: her head for VF fora vendetta. It's like that, like 129 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: she moved through the world differently, you know, like that 130 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And so this is a beautiful full 131 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: circle thing for you. I get called every day everywhere 132 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: I go, which I loved. But there is a part 133 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: of me also that's like excuse me, I can also 134 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: it's it's a large part of my I'm such a 135 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: fucking bro, so it's a big part of my life currently. 136 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: Also is this like finding the balance between my mask 137 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: daddy energy and my like need to feel there's I 138 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: could have this other weird sort of like Maryland in 139 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: me that needs to be like busty and a cabaret star, 140 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like how can those two things exist? 141 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how do I like want to be Britney Spears? 142 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: And also I'm a lesbian singer songwriter, Like there are 143 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: all of these dichotomies within me that I managing. Yes, 144 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: and and that is like its cellist and pop star, 145 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, yeah right, we also damned about this. 146 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: This is what we dm but this is our first 147 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: moment of connection. And I told you this in the elevator. 148 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: Was that like you, Betty and I connected. I think 149 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: I got through to you, I think meaningfully for the 150 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: first time. When I told you. I was on a 151 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: plane going from like uh Sydney to Brisbane or something 152 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: when I was visiting like five years ago with family, 153 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: and I was you know, it's that thing where you 154 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: put on your headphones you're on a plane, you fall asleep, 155 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: but you're keeping the music on right and in and 156 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: out you drift and hear something and it kind of 157 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: like pierces through it like a very core lay contract. 158 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: But I woke up at one point, drifted into consciousness 159 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: when Blue Heaven Midnight Crush um, which by the way, 160 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: is one of my like that is my dikest song. 161 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: That is that is I love that it spoke to 162 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: you and when it's so funny you gasped gasp when 163 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: he said it, because I feel like that song does 164 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: not get the credit because Blue Heaven Midnight Crush it's 165 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: just such as they say it all the time, but 166 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: vibe and I mean it really And this is what 167 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: I was saying to Bow and as I was like, 168 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: my I think, I think you have such an evocative 169 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: voice and you really make like you you give that 170 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: feeling of whatever it is you're singing about is very 171 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: committed to, Like I'm not trying to sound cool. I'm 172 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: telling you a story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're taking us there. 173 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: I it's a party drug thing where it's like I'm 174 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: soaring and I mean it's like it's you know, I 175 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite songs is want to Be 176 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: And just like by the way, and you said ignore 177 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: me to which is on my independent record, which I'm 178 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: actually seeing money from streams on my third record, so 179 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: stream it promoted sister record is in the so she 180 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: is like, I pay my rent with my actual music now, 181 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: which has never happened to me until my new It's like, 182 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, a year and a half later and I 183 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: got a role to check for the first time, I 184 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, for me, ignore me is 185 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: on so frequently in my home that I may be 186 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: responsible for like a week and a half of your 187 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: of your rent. And when I when my first nine 188 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: point nine cents single time, when I first was getting 189 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: to know Brett Leland and um, I found out that 190 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: he wrote that I literally like, I was like, that's 191 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: just one of my favorite songs. And also we have 192 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: to talk about the music video, which is one shot 193 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: and one of the best things. I love that video. 194 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: When I saw it, I was like, why isn't every 195 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: and talking about this, I was like this, that video 196 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: was believable. I actually I would love to know your 197 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: thoughts on this because last culture Eastace, you have something 198 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: to say. I have a lot of interesting experiences because 199 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: of my specific demo. Right, So, for the longest time, 200 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: my demo was exclusively thirty two year old gay white men. 201 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: That was like the show boys Town Chicago. That was it, Like, 202 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: that's the vibe. The ladies start to trickle in. I 203 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: start to see our us diversify and I've met I 204 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: love I love it. I love a bit on stage. 205 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: I love to get to get the boys going. My 206 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: favorite bits is like waiting for ladies. I see you 207 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: finally joined us. Me and the homosexuals have been waiting 208 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: for you for literally eight years. So welcome. We've known 209 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: and I feel like because of that, some interesting like 210 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: my socials like aren't really popping because I have like 211 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: adult fans who like come to shows because they have 212 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: independent money, Like you know, they are independent adult people. 213 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: So I make money on tour like interactive experiences. My 214 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: fans will show out and up ten times over, but 215 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: the internet doesn't really reflect it, Like my YouTube isn't 216 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: popping because like I just think I don't think of 217 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: like thirty year old gay men as like the YouTube 218 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: demographic necessary. That's like that's like a youth thing for 219 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: the most part. Like it's interesting, Like people don't watch 220 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: my music videos. This was the long the like long 221 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: winded version of but which is so? Which is like 222 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: you would never say that that would never be a 223 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: phenomenon or a thing that would occur for an artist, 224 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: let's say, like fifteen years ago. Like there would be 225 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: like like the the the engagement from the listenership would 226 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: reflect in the viewership of the video, you know, And 227 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: it's such a I've just had such an interesting I 228 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: think I think maybe everybody feels this way. I think 229 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: I've had quite a singular experience while also sharing all 230 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: of the like classic like every artist can connect over 231 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: like label drama or whatever. There's like all of the 232 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: fundamental things that I share with every person in music. 233 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: But I've also had this very weird like it's been 234 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: super culty, but then you know, it's just it's kind 235 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: of like I've been very blessed that I have been 236 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: able to maintain my My music lawyer, my entertainment lawyer 237 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: said to my parents when I first signed to sony Um, 238 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: I dropped out of Berkeley. I was six months from 239 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: or six weeks from graduation, and I dropped out to 240 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: go sign a record deal and like live in New York. 241 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: And my parents were like, please don't do that, like 242 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: six weeks you stupid baby. And I was like, no, 243 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: I can, and so I was like I thought my 244 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: whole world, I just like I had the spiral video. 245 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: You know, you think there's nowhere to go but up, 246 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: and you think you're so ready for it. At twenty one, 247 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: I was like, bring it on, bitch, I am. I've 248 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: been waiting for this moment my whole pucking life. And 249 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: like there's so many things. I bis like, it's interesting 250 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: how you just you grow and now I'm like, you 251 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: think that you're ready, and now I'm like, I actually 252 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: think I'm really ready now. And my entertainment lawyer said 253 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: to my parents when all of this was going on, 254 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, coming out of my 255 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: first of seventeen thousand cocoons my entertainment, Laurya said to 256 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: my parents, it is not about if, it's about when 257 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: because and he said, he was like, because I believe 258 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: she's talented, Like that's if she had no talent and 259 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: she you were, but daddy was bankrolling something, and it's like, there, 260 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: may it might not be it might be an if 261 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: he was like, it is just about if you can 262 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: afford to stay in it when things aren't going well, 263 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: because things will not go well finally at some point, 264 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: and if you can survive to come back the other 265 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: side of it, Like it's just about that, which is 266 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: so it's so sad, and it's been tenuets. You know. 267 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: It's like and I think now at this point of 268 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: my life, I'm just coming out into this like big 269 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: next phase of like I've arrived. I think I've always 270 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: been thirty in my spirit and I just turned thirty. 271 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: And then I'm like feeling good, I'm feeling standard, I'm 272 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: seeing zan, I'm feeling powerful. The music is great. The 273 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: music is great, and it's I think it's the best 274 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: music I've ever done, which you're the most excited about 275 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: this new stuff. That's amazing. I'm like when we said 276 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: at the top, like the catalog, I mean like society 277 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: and you know what it is about songs like high 278 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: society too, and really all your music is it's so 279 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: it's so I see music videos in my mind to it, 280 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's so visual, it's so color. 281 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: That's what I'm always I'm always trying to. Yeah, and 282 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: your visuals are great, Like you call that furniture and 283 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: songwriting moniture here and there. It just matches, you know 284 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like when the aesthetic matches what sonically 285 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: is happening, like ignore me, like should be what it is. 286 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: It's like it's like that all white moment and like 287 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: just the way the sets move in, by the way 288 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: your dancers are amazing. The chorea is always is always, 289 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: so shout out my amazing choreographer who has been I 290 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: met him. I was opening for Katy Perry. It was 291 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: me and my band. I didn't have dancers, but I 292 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: knew that that was where I wanted to be because 293 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: I grew this is like, come on, so I grew 294 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: up in the heyday as we all did. I'm a 295 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: ninety one baby, I think so where we we have 296 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: a similar sense memory of our youth. I grew up 297 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: in Australia. So there's like a lot more Kylie maybe 298 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: than there was. But otherwise she breaks through, not enough, 299 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: but she doesn't. But so there are some like we had, 300 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, benchmarks that I've missed. But Brittany spears culture 301 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: it was gonna be it. Maybe that is No, it's fine, 302 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: let's get into Let's get into do you want to 303 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: prompt me with the question what is the culture that 304 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: made you say? Cultures? For you? There we go, Thank you. 305 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: She the HBO Max, but now it's hbos Sorry, HBO Max. 306 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's the HBO special Live in Las 307 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Vegas two thousand and one from the MGM Grand that 308 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: performance that era, Brittany's twenty two shouldn't be as fabulous 309 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: as she is for the like, especially now with everything 310 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: we know, all of the context for the whole story, 311 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: Like I'm seeing footage from that and I'm just like, 312 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: it's so it is so much more deep and painful 313 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: and sad. Now you're able to still enjoy it. But 314 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: there is that darkness that you know existed and it's 315 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: it's like rueful about it. Yeah, and you're like, oh, 316 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: like and just you know whatever, it complicates, but you 317 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: still enjoy it. We're all on the same page. But 318 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: so that I grew up in the era of Beyonce 319 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: and Britney Spears. I have a w W B D tattoo, 320 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: which is what would Beyonce do? But it also for 321 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: me is what would Brittany do. And then also my 322 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: stage name is Betty. And I think that subconsciously, me 323 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: being like wedged in between like two of the iconic 324 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: performers and entertainers of a generation and of my life 325 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: was probably a subconscious choice at eighteen years old. But 326 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: like that was what I saw. That was pop star. 327 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: That was like giving it all, That was rehearsal, that 328 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: was we want to be perfect, We want to give 329 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: you something that other people cannot do. And I like 330 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: have this very strange experience going between the pot of 331 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: me that is like songwriter because I'm like sort of 332 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: a Missy Higgins Sarah Barelli's songwriter. That is my like 333 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: what I grew up listening to John Mayor. I want 334 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: to sit on I write this whole new record that 335 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm writing I sat at my piano or my guitar 336 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: and I wrote all the songs and then I have 337 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: taken them to go produce like I am, I am, yeah, 338 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm such a like it is so much more hot forward, 339 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: which is what I really wanted it to be. Um, 340 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: But then like I don't want to you know you 341 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: we talked about me playing cello. It's like I never 342 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: wanted to be the girl who sat and like, who's 343 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: the girl who played the cello because like I was like, no, 344 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: I want to be Britney's like, but then I'm having 345 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: this experience. Actually, Quarantine gave me a lot of time 346 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: to think about this because I've been such a road bitch. 347 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: I've been like you been working because I have. My 348 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: fear is that if I'm not spending every waking, fucking 349 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: moment of my life working towards my dream, doing something 350 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: active that I can do, everybody else is gonna sit. 351 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: The label isn't gonna call me. I can't get this 352 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: person to fucking make my music whatever it is. The 353 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Only thing that I can do is make an effort 354 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: to push myself for that and forward. And so that 355 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: was tour for me because I was like having this 356 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: experience all the time where I was on stage and 357 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: I was like, this is working, So you can't you 358 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: cannot tell me that I'm not doing something that is impactful, 359 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: like we have a it's a community, it's credit. It's 360 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: such an incredible experience. I think on on both sides, 361 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: hopefully that's what I want, and I want to create 362 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: a space that's like that was a fucking show, amazing show, 363 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like it's not and nobody else could get 364 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: up and do this. That's the whole point. I'm supposed 365 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: to be something special and that is that Brittany influence 366 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: because because you're I ever so remember a time when 367 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: it would be like all the like drivens and like 368 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: the behind the music, like it would be really focused 369 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: on them in the rehearsal room, like even like remember 370 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I think it was like The Life Is But a 371 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: Dream documentary where it was a lot. It was around 372 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: the era of four. Actually remember that Beyonce did this 373 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: special and it's just her hyper focusing on like the performance. 374 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: Obviously you got her like rehearsing in the black and 375 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: white and like the that it's like that is not 376 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, and there's it's me trying to always manage 377 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: how can I be both and something I've really I 378 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time. I got super obsessed with 379 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Black Pink during Quarantine. I've loved K pop always. I've 380 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: always been big into the culture, the same rehearsal. I 381 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: love rehearsal. I love when people are like, no, we 382 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: took us weeks, and I'm like, thank you for the effort. 383 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: Doja Cat is the pop star that we have been 384 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: waiting for and that we deserve. We have been saying, 385 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: like that performance that she did, I believe it was 386 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: that the amazing and the Grammy talk about evanescence style 387 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: of say so, because that is fucking range. That my 388 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: favorite thing that she's done, isable number because also, what 389 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: do you do when you have the biggest song in 390 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: the world. You'd be playing it exactly the same way. No, 391 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: you you wear wigs, you give something different. I'm completely obsessed, 392 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: and I think there's this like emergence of that level 393 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: of talent that I've been wanting to see. I love 394 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: to feel like I'm not good enough. I hear that, 395 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: and nothing sucks more than than looking around and being like, 396 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I'm I could do that I think 397 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: I could do that, not even better. It's like I'm 398 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: pretty sure I could do that, And you know, I 399 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: think I think that like there is it should be 400 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean, Like we should 401 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: be watching entertainers and those should be the entertainers that 402 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: are really popping off because it is something supernatural. Like 403 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: you were saying about Brittany, I mean she was super 404 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: she hasn't she had a god given gift and whatever 405 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: that thing was, whether it was her because it's like 406 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is like I'm not saying 407 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: that I'm a bad singer. I think I'm a great singer. 408 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: My voice is not my gift. My voice. My voice 409 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: is a vessel that I get to tell story with 410 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: and I love to sing in. Music is my life 411 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: blood and music is my first love. It always will be. 412 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: It has been. It like the way that you were 413 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: talking about the way that a song can can be 414 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: with a moment and how it has burned into your 415 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: experience in your life. And then someone else loves that song. 416 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm getting goose bumps talking about it, and then you 417 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: share it and you're like this is so special. And 418 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: movies can kind of do the same thing. But music 419 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: is the thing that you experienced why you're having a conversation. 420 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: It's in the background at the grocery store, when someone 421 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: tells you they're pregnant, whatever it is, it's like those 422 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: It is with you everywhere. So that's the most special 423 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: pot about it. Music is like better than any drug 424 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: because it feeling drug that isn't bad for you because 425 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: it like makes you like it alters your mental state 426 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: for as long as you're listening to it or experiencing it, 427 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: but it doesn't like rot your brain or anything, you know, 428 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 1: like anyway. And it's but it's so it's so special 429 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: and it's so exciting too. I look around and I 430 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: think that like Lissa, she's a perform that's like her 431 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: gift is It's like, yes, her voice is amazing, and 432 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: like she has bits and stuff like the flute thing 433 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: is so funny and she her like her gift and 434 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: the thing that she's special is standing on stage and 435 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: being like look at me, look at me, Like I 436 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: am here to like make a vibe and make you 437 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: feel good. And I think, I that's my gift. It's 438 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: not my voice, it's my I can I can be 439 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: like we're here in this room now, and we're going 440 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: to have an experience together, and I want to like 441 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: make you all feel seen and comfortable because I my 442 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: theory is, this is my wedding. I love a wedding. 443 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I love a wedding. I'm the first one on the 444 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: dance floor. I got. It's like, I'm so I'm ham 445 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: at a wedding, and that is kind of my pop 446 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: star energy is I'm like, if I am having so 447 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: much fun, you have no excuse but to be like, well, 448 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: she's really committed, you know what I mean. It's like 449 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna set. Yes, I'm gonna and I say this 450 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: when I'm in a like kind of a cold room, 451 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: I will like a weird like corporate show. I've played this. 452 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: I've played this show in a in a Hilton hotel. 453 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: It wasn't was it Hilton. It was for a literally 454 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: actually like a ballroom in a hotel competive floor. That 455 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: the stage was the size of this table, which is 456 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: what six ft by three ft, so the three of us, 457 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: me and two huge six ft two boys because they 458 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: have to hire taller than me. So that I can 459 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: sometimes be a dainty little girl and I feel like 460 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: they have to look like they can hit man handle me, 461 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so I'm like, we're 462 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: doing this and it's thirty middle aged people who have 463 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: literally never they're not gay middle aged, you know what 464 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean. Like I'm looking at them being like they 465 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: have no, they didn't ask for this. The one there's 466 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: this is I get myself into these because there's always 467 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: the one event planner is the gay guy. He's like 468 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm gonna book you, bitch, and I'm like, 469 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 1: thank you, I need it genuinely. And then I get 470 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: there and everybody's like what's going on, And I'm like, 471 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: we're just gonna have I'm gonna have a great time. Hey, 472 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: you just sit back. If you want to join in, 473 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: go for it. If not, this is a great rehearsal 474 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: for us. Thank you so much. I will take my 475 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: check and I will get out of your hair. And 476 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: you're like, and here's I Love You Always Forever a 477 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: song you know people, that is my go because it's 478 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: the second to lost song in my set. I have 479 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: always finished my set with I Have Always Forever. And 480 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: then Somebody loves you Because somebody loves you. It's the 481 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: rainbow song. It's all the rainbow lets go and we 482 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: play and I always I'll be like, all right, thank 483 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: you for listening to all of my music. I'm gonna 484 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: play one that you actually will know and it gets 485 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: all the moms and everybody's like, oh, I do know 486 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: this song. It's such a great doctor's office there was 487 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: song was. It's a genius one to cover too, because 488 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: your redition of it obviously is so so great and 489 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: it's like a friend enough from the original, but it 490 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: is that song, you know what I mean, And that 491 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: song is such a ba especially generationally for us. I 492 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: think like that was when we were all listening to 493 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: it was kind of like that time of like they 494 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: played like thirty one songs on the radio and like 495 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: that song was like top hits. Yeah, it was like 496 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: that thing that was like top forty had like a 497 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: rotation that didn't really change for a while, right, and 498 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: like it's I think the key to finding the right 499 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: song to cover is the one that if you start 500 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: and you're like, what is this song? And then the 501 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: chorus hits and you're like, I know, and because it's 502 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: like you can actually bring life to it if you're 503 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: doing like Ain't Nobody by Shaka Khan. It starts and 504 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: you're like, I ever, I get it, and the rest 505 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: of it is kind of just like chugs along. It 506 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: starts like I know, I know, and I started out 507 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: of it feels like and if you don't know what 508 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: everybody's like, do it. And it doesn't until the chorus 509 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: hits and everybody's like, oh I do, and then everybody's 510 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: in it, and then it just keeps building and you're like, yeah, 511 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: welcome hello. The secretaries in your brand, filing through habits, 512 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: finally find it in your mind palace. Someone's like running 513 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: through the holes like I have that. It's great. But 514 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: you're saying when you go to that hotel show like 515 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: what you still despite of the circumstances, your gift is 516 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: still performance. Yeah. I think I think the thing that 517 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: I have spent um my like gym of sort of 518 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: my life has been in like performing. The thing that 519 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: I have like grown sort of a callous around is 520 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: being the being the one who was like I'm going 521 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: to set the top because I've been in so many 522 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: strange situations because I have this very specific demo, so 523 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: it's like I've played every pride in this one. That's 524 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: my like bitch. Like the memes that I saw when 525 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: the pandemic happened and it was like Betty who filing 526 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: for unemployment because the Pride season and I'm like, no, 527 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: literally actually literally, So it's like that is my I've been. 528 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: We often talk, you know, we've been to some pretty 529 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: bleak prides, you know, like but are so important facts stage? 530 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: Every time, I'm like, they need us more here, yes, 531 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: every time, I'm like, this is and I know, like 532 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: I played. I played a festival that was called I'm 533 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: Not I'm Not Dragging, and the festival was great. I 534 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: was not the right person to be at the like again, 535 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: probably some homo was like we should get Patty who 536 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: thank you. But it was roots and blues, so it 537 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: was an all female festival, which I love, but it 538 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: was exclusively girls playing guitars. And I get out with 539 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: my track set with me and my homosexual and their 540 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: washboard abs and I like boiled up legs. They are 541 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: still hot and you know what I'm doing. I know 542 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. Yeah, but I'm like I come out 543 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: and I'm immediately like oh and we start and people 544 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: are like leave and that doesn't happen, by the way, 545 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't really happen. I'm like the number one person 546 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: who would be like, I know you aren't expecting this, 547 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: but you're going to enjoy this by the end of it. 548 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: And it usually works. And so this was like a 549 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: time when it was not working. And I was like 550 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: four songs and I had my first break and I 551 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: was like, I bet you're wondering what I'm doing here. 552 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm wondering the same thing. But you know what, Columbia, Missouri, tonight, 553 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: we're going to have a great time. And people just 554 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: kept I mean it's like they kept leaving, and I 555 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: was like, this is it's still and I saw and 556 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: you can see. So there's like the front V I 557 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: P section that's supposed to be slammed with all the 558 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: people who have their fancy wristbands crickets. Nobody's in the 559 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: VP section, so it's just dead space between me and 560 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: the one. Yeah, I think there was one. There was 561 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: one gay guy over here, and then I'm making an 562 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: assumption about her sexuality, but I suspect that there was 563 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: one lesbian Gale in a Hukuru T shirt and the 564 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: other guy was also in a Betty who T shirt 565 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: and they It's like because if I feel often when 566 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: I see people like that in the crowd, they don't 567 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: just know the words I Love Yours Forever, they know 568 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: the words to the fucking deep cuts that I'm playing, 569 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: and they're like in the second verse like like on 570 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: the rift, you know what I mean, And I'm like, oh, 571 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: like fuck, this is you were you were in the record, 572 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: and it's so it's such it's like a shot of adrenale. 573 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, sure, I get so jacked up because I'm 574 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: like this, you have been You're in Columbia, Missouri, and 575 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: you probably came to this festival wearing your WHU Crew 576 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: T shirt to come see us all of these like 577 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: old middle aged people who literally don't give a funk 578 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: about it's not for them. I know that it is 579 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,239 Speaker 1: for you, and I will not let you down, sir 580 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: and Manton or anyone in between that you know what 581 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, yeah, I mean Matt and I have 582 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: performed to an audience of one and audience and we 583 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: don't numbered the audience and it was screaming. Did they 584 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: really enjoy themselves? Though? It's really crazy, like to think 585 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: that that was like that was like six seven years ago. 586 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: That wasn't a seven and we literally it was. It 587 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: was like a like all show and like a baby base. 588 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: But we really thought more than one person would come, 589 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: but one more than and we did the show. We 590 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: did the whole send. But but that was It's called 591 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: rehearsal and thinking of Brittany Beyonce, rehearsal and it it's 592 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: make it's putting you on the path to the moment 593 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: when it's like I think that, especially in this business, 594 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: I hear a lot about this and I see it 595 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: a lot where it's like all of these weird stumbles 596 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: that you have make you uniquely prepared for your destiny 597 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: in whatever way that is. So it's like for all 598 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: of the times that you have fallen on your face 599 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: in front of that one audience member who you gave 600 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: you put on the list, you know what I like. 601 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: So it's like for all of that, like there will 602 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: be some weird cosmic moment where you're like, isn't it 603 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: funny that I've had a lot of that where it's 604 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: like I played one show that was horrible and I 605 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: was so mad and I was like at my management, 606 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: like why am I playing this fucking show, nobody fucking 607 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: gave ship, like this is so bad. And then it's 608 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: like two years later one person was at that show 609 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: who actually books for Jimmy Kimmel, And now you're stupid 610 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: and it's real and it's like you to have the 611 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: perspective enough to be like, well, another one buys the 612 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: dust is like kind of easier said than done. But 613 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: I think especially I heard you. Literally, I was listening 614 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: to the Shawan episode who I love by the way, 615 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: his husband, Scotty Yeah, follows me on Instagram. I don't 616 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: think that's my aunt. Yeah, because Sean is a big 617 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: classical guy. I'm trying to find my classical music people. 618 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: I need someone to go to the orchestra with. Oh, yes, 619 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: that's perfect. And I was like, I was like, I'm 620 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: pretty sure that Shawn Hay is gonna be my orchestra day. 621 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: But he doesn't know that we're gonna we're gonna get 622 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure he knows you like Scotty's played you like 623 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: in that. I'm sure, Yeah, Scotty is the one really 624 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: holding it down. I get that energy. Yeah. I love 625 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: it when someone someone is like um whenever I think 626 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: like Anthony was like cooking in the kitchen and your 627 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: ignored Me was on in the background, like a little 628 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: bit of the first time he met. He was like, 629 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: he actually Anthony the first time we met, he said, 630 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: my his then boyfriend was like the biggest betty. He 631 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: was stand by association. So I don't want to speak 632 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: for him. And oh, I'm sure. I mean while he 633 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: was cooking, ignored Me was playing and I was like, actually, 634 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: I think when I met Anthony he said that, and 635 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: I was like, and I made a joke because I 636 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: was like, you're literally so hot, and I don't think 637 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: he liked that, and I think that made him pull 638 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: a little bit away from I feel like I I objectify. 639 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: I would like to publicly time well peace of meat 640 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know what. I made a joke. 641 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Army hammer one time, like this is 642 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: years ago. I was, I was, let's just let's just 643 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: blow yeah, okay, but it was a question about that. 644 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: Actually this is like okay, I'm sorry, so sorry, you 645 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: got it was sun Dance and he came in. This 646 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: is like before all of it and like helmed by 647 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: her name, so yeah, and I was I was like 648 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: doing a fun little interview with him and who else 649 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: was it? Um some someone else? He was in this 650 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: movie and I'm talking to him, and I'm like, not 651 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: like a journalist, I'm doing bits with everyone that's coming in. 652 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: So my bit with him was like, oh, isn't it funny, 653 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: Like we're here at Robert Redford's like Sundance Film Festival. 654 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: He's like the hot actor of yesteryear, and here you 655 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: are the hottest actor of today, and he really like 656 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: shut down people. I think they don't like to necessarily 657 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: hear about the hotness because and I'm kind of I 658 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: was kind of annoyed because I was like, what, no 659 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: one's ever made a joke about you being hotly pleased? 660 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: Played the Winklevoss Twitter like that's like you're you have 661 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: a vibe. But then I was like, I mean maybe 662 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: they maybe like in their like a privileged way, that's 663 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: their way of being objectified. Like but I don't know. 664 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: I guess maybe another thing is like they don't necessarily 665 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: know how to respond to it. Like it's it's like 666 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: a maybe this is a controversial question, but I have 667 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: a question about ms Hammer. Okay, I understand, like I 668 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: don't know any let me preface I don't actually know 669 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: enough detail to be speaking, but I don't, so I 670 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: don't know about like consent or any of that stuff. 671 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: So like, if that's involved, that's not the thing. They 672 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: felt like there was a lot of kinks shaming going 673 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: on surrounding the army of it all, and I had 674 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: a feeling during it. I was like, if he changed 675 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: his bio to Cannibal, we would all laugh about this 676 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: and everything would be chill, but then all of a sudden, 677 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: he's being chased with pitchforks out of Hollywood. I think 678 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: there were some consents. This is what I don't know about, 679 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: and this is why I carefully. I I understand like 680 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: the root of this question. And it's like if it 681 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: were kind of distilled to that to like a kink, 682 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: and like if he hasn't actually acted on it, and 683 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: like it's like dirty messages with a girl who he's 684 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: talking to and that's like she's like l O L 685 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: do you like that? It's like yeah, he and it's 686 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: just like he's like very unsafe. And then to have 687 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: shared all of that, he's not like I'm gonna come 688 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: kill you at your house. Give me your address, you 689 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come. It's like totally. I don't know. I 690 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: don't know enough about it went beyond dirty talk. I 691 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: think I think it was. I think it was like 692 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: it like genuinely was dark. See I don't I don't 693 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: know enough. I just know I saw some of the 694 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: like his outlandish cannibalism king stuff, and I was like, 695 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: honestly good for her, Like why are we you know 696 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: you're all you can be in defeat, you can be 697 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: into what have you And if you have a partner 698 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: who's consensual and that then like rock on. Then the 699 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: funny thing is like have they all the trailers for 700 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: the new movie Death on the Nile are coming out, 701 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: and like that's so crazy how edit around him? And 702 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: it's so clear he's like the lead of the movie. 703 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: They like him and Galga Dote, I think are like 704 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: a couple who are like the lead of They didn't 705 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: replace him, but it did not because he would come 706 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: seeing it like he's not in it there, Like he's 707 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: literally like like they'll be like a flash of him 708 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: like passing by, and the trailer is so trying to 709 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: cut around him and it's really fun, but it's just 710 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy because he's the lead of the 711 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: movie and you forget like, you know, this ship takes 712 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: so long, like maybe they we're not over it yet 713 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: for sure, And I know when it all happened he 714 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: got dropped. I think he was supposed to be in 715 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: married Me. Wasn't that supposed to marry me? But another 716 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: shock wedding, which different he was. He was supposed to 717 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: be in Shotgun wedding, and I believe got replaced by 718 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: Josh Dummel, but that was like he was going down 719 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico to go shoot it and then they 720 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: were like you're not, which is probably the right. Yeah, 721 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: we're definitely not over And I don't have enough details, 722 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: but I just remember being like, just like, are you 723 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: allowed to be a freak? Like so what? I bet 724 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: lots of people I think that. I think that there's 725 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: positive stuffy freaks and tons of freaks in Hollywood, and 726 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: I think that he went beyond to the point where 727 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: it's like, you know what's funny. You know what's funny 728 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: is it's like I forgot when that always happening with him, 729 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: that he was a big enough deal to warrant all 730 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: of that, because he, to me, is always just kind 731 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: of like he wasn't my favorite because around when Called 732 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: Me by Your Name came out, there was this piece 733 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: that I remember coming uh coming out about how like 734 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: why has Hollywood given this man so many seconds? You're right, 735 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: because he was He's been in a lot of flops. 736 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: And it was like if a woman, are like an 737 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: actor of color, had had that many like missed attempts 738 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: at nailing it, that they'd be like, Okay, we're moving on. 739 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: But I think it's like I think he comes from 740 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: a very wealthy family and also looks that way, you 741 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's like they would love 742 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: nothing more than to be able to put Hollywood loves 743 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: to forget. Yeah, they for a favorite, for a favorite, 744 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: they love to forget and be like, no, don't worry 745 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: about it. But like, but I think we're I think, 746 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: but I see. That's what's what's what's kind of being 747 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: questioned right now by a lot of people. It's like, 748 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: was he ever the favorite? Though? Like because I think 749 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: he was just about to start working in like the 750 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: sense of like army hammer works and and then and 751 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: then this all happened. It's like, you know, also, we've 752 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: given every hammer too much of our time at this point, 753 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: like army Hammer has now taken up too much fun 754 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: to talk about about. Army Hammer absolutely cannibal like a 755 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 1: cool for you as long as you're in a cool, 756 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: safe environment, are you Are you willing to try this 757 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: some this this plant based mean alternative that tastes like 758 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: human Oh, I don't know, I think, tell me more. 759 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: It's starting to I've only heard like absolutely not by 760 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: the way, no, because yellow jackets paper has officially gone 761 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: too far. And if I start eating and this is this, 762 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm taking the kink out of it. This is just 763 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: for people who enjoy the gustatory sensation of eating human flesh. 764 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. So there is I think I think 765 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: now like this is a few years ago, but now 766 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: like it's gaining traction, not too much traction. But there 767 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: are like plants like like alternative force shot that like 768 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: that tastes like human flesh. That's insane. So how do 769 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: you who? Who who is like so like army Amma 770 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: should be the face of it, you know what I mean? Like, 771 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: embrace your weird sex chink And I think the shame 772 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: of it is a part of the scary part. This 773 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: is your this is your world, bro, We're just letting 774 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: at it an industry. Now for me, it's not even 775 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's shame. It might be, but 776 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm here thinking I'm never going to try that stuff 777 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: because if I tried, and I like, yeah, what then 778 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: what what do I do well? And also like for 779 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: at what? At what cost? I don't know, I don't 780 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what to what. And also I want 781 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: to know who's in the lab being like, let me 782 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: taste tested. Yeah, that's right, how do you know this? 783 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: Remind But you know what we would be good for 784 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: is for unsuspecting people who don't know they're being fed 785 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: human because this is a true crime phenomenon of of 786 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: let me set the stage for you. This is a 787 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: like wives tale probably, but it's like six degrees of separation. 788 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: I heard the story about a girl who was on 789 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: a date, a tender, some kind of online date. She'd 790 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: been talking to this guy. Yes, he invites her to 791 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: his house always no always public place girls and boys 792 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: for the friendly especially first couple of days. You're sussing 793 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: it out, like for the love of God. She goes 794 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: to his place, He cooks to her meal, they hang out, 795 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: they have dinner, she eats halfway through the meal. By 796 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: the way, this could completely be untrue, but I love 797 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: it anyway, pretend entirely true. She halfway through the meal 798 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: is like, I'm actually I'm feeling like like I have 799 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: to go home. I'm so sorry. I'm like, I'm getting 800 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: sick and I have to go. She gets home, she 801 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: becomes violently ill, where she's like, oh, I have to 802 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: go to the hospital. Like she is not okay. She's 803 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: like shipping blood like it's bad. And she goes to 804 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: the hospital and they pump her stomach and they examined 805 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: and she had been she ate a human at dinner 806 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: and he and they look the police get involved the 807 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: whole thing. They look up this guy. He was it 808 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: was an Airbnb. He had used a fake name and 809 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: paid cash. His profile was fake. It didn't exist, like 810 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: everything about him had been like all she had was 811 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: the experience of it happening. But she doesn't have any 812 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: photos of him, like his profile was like. So he 813 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: got off on feeding her human and then ditched town 814 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: and then literally was never to be seen again. This 815 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: is one of the this is a film and he 816 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: needs but here here's here's my circle is if the 817 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: young lady who had been on the date had tried 818 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: this beef you speak of that tastes like human, that 819 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: this plant based. She would be like, you know what, 820 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: this tastes like human. And I know because I've had 821 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: the fake and not a whole meal. You're right, You're right. 822 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: This is what we're spending. My mind is going a 823 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: mile a minute. Cannibalism is in the conversation right now 824 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: because of Yellow Jackets. Have you watched it? I have not. 825 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: We neither have we because we're like scared. Yeah, I 826 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. For me, tv UM like 827 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: taking in stuff from you. I I'm not I know 828 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: your housewives, I'm not. I'm not a reality goes as 829 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: far as The Bachelor for me, and I wasn't even 830 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: a Bachelor queen. And then I told you, and then 831 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: I was like, what is happening? Because I shot the 832 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, It's like, you know, I'm standing on stage 833 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: at this random fucking high school of Blake from The 834 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: Bachelor in the middle of nowhere in Colorado, and I 835 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: had flown out for literally twelve hours because I had 836 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: something else. And it was like, they asked me four 837 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: days before, can you be at this high school. So 838 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in this auditorium waiting for and like and 839 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: the producer is like, sorry, we're holding there like two minutes, 840 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: two minutes, and then I hear we're holding. Sorry, they're 841 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: making out against the walkers. We're holding, We're holding, And 842 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I have to watch this. This is 843 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: my my entrance. Now, this context straight audience. This is 844 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: context for me, like I have. Now I have to 845 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: see this. So I watched. I started watching Becca's season 846 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: from the beginning, and it was It was also really 847 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: nice because Becca is like a fucking Betty who stand 848 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: Really When I went to follow her after I had 849 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: done it, so I could DM her and be like, 850 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: so nice to meet you, Like so fun, I hope 851 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: you find love whatever. I opened our DM s to 852 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: go DM her and she had d M me three 853 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: years prior, saying Betty, who when you come, I'm coming 854 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: to your show in Minneapolis. Will you help me film 855 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: my bachelor audition circle? And it was her audition to 856 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: be on the first season that she was on art 857 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: or whatever before I want well he was he he 858 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: do you know about I don't I'm not a bachelination. 859 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: That was crazy that was crazy. That was that was crazy. 860 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: So basically he broke up with her live on live 861 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: national television, and she was like, this is really fucked up. 862 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,959 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like it didn't feel like I feel 863 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: good for the camera's drama. It was like they did 864 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: it honestly. Actually Cecily played her on SNL. But it 865 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: was such a viral moment. Basically, like it's like the 866 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: finale happens. He proposes to her, she's so happy, and 867 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: then they can't see each other for like a few 868 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: weeks or something or like, and then so the cameras 869 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: Basically he had decided that he wanted the other girl. 870 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: He made the wrong He really picked the wrong girl. 871 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 1: So they were like, okay, well we have to film 872 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: your reunion with her. And so basically they follow him 873 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: with the cameras in he sits down and she's like, hey, 874 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: it's so good to see you. And you can kind 875 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: of see it married you can see a dawn on 876 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: her in her eyes that she's like what's going on? 877 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: And he's like, I've decided that it's nothing that you did, 878 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: but I have to be with her. And basically they 879 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: followed her melt down around the house and she keeps 880 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 1: being keep being like like leave me alone, and they won't, 881 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: and like people from Bachelor Nation, like from the show, 882 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: we're tweeting like this is this is like this is 883 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: too personal and horrible and I can't believe you guys 884 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: did this. So's I can't believe you've done this. So 885 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 1: it was so like bucked up. And then we had 886 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: her season and she she so they made her the Bachelorette, 887 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: which I love because she deserved her moment. And she's 888 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: so cool and genuinely very nice. I've seen her. Actually, 889 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: she lives in l A now and we're so Instagram friends. 890 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: But she came to like six Betty who show, and 891 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: so so the producer this is like the producer called me, 892 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: and they make playlists for them because they're not allowed 893 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: of phones because they take all of their months. So 894 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: like but you're planes, trains and automobile, I mean pre COVID, 895 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: everybody was going all over the you know, they film 896 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: an episode and pouquet for no reason and you're wall 897 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: like let's go. So it's like eighteen hours of travel 898 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: time with no device, and so playlist producers make them 899 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: playlists like big playlists and Becca was like just Betty. 900 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: I just wanted to bet all the time. And so 901 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: the producer called and was like, do you want to 902 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: do this thing? Whatever? So I did the show and 903 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: it was my first in because otherwise most straight people 904 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: don't know me. I was like, Becca's my one in 905 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: a million. She was like she was the first bachelorette 906 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: that was like upfront about being a liberal Democrat like 907 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: she because they're not really supposed to talk about politics. 908 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,439 Speaker 1: I think Rachel Lindsay said at one point, like it's 909 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: like she couldn't connect with It's like a thing of 910 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: like they don't want you to talk about it on 911 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: the show because they don't they don't want to be 912 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: disqualifying and they shoot everything, so you're basically meeting someone. 913 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: In fact, the guy Backer chose like this is how 914 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: I take interestingly about Garrett. And they are not together anymore, 915 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: and she's now she found love on Bachelor in Paradise 916 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: this last season. She seems very happy, God blessed. But um, 917 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of controversy around Garrett. I don't know 918 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 1: anything about anything. Garrett and Becca came to Nashville Pride. 919 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: They were in Nashville and Becca found out that I 920 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: was playing Nashville Pride, and she was like, oh my god, 921 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,439 Speaker 1: can we come? And I put her on. I was like, sure, 922 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: girlfriend show whatever the year or something. She's still with Garrett. 923 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 1: He comes first of all. I'm like, for someone who's 924 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be like a transphobic, like monster, he's at 925 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: Nashville Pride and he was like dancing and having a 926 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: great time. So I was like, that's always it's already 927 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 1: a great start. You know for what I this is 928 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: just my personal I'll take it. I love I love 929 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: heterosexual men who can be cool in a gay enron 930 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 1: panic about it. That's my entire life. I have a 931 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 1: very queer life and so like, if you're trying to ride, 932 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: that's got that's you're gonna have to get down. And 933 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: so like my husband, I lived with my husband and 934 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: his best friend from high school to like extremely heterosexual men, 935 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: and I have gave them up. It's so it's so 936 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: beautiful and awesome. And like my very heterosexual roommate, he's 937 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: definitely straighter than my husband was, Like, I can't believe 938 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: how gay you've made my life, like genuinely, like I 939 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: could never have expected that this but like all of 940 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: my best friends. He was like Scott Hoying like all 941 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: of his best collaborators, like all of these amazing queer people, 942 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: and he was like I would have never expected and like, 943 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 1: what a beautiful gift you've given me. And I was like, 944 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: it's just atmospheric environment, Like you're just like you're just 945 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of like showing them things that have no actual 946 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: that are just culturally like queer people, and your culture 947 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: is is like it's like it's magic, it's joyful, it's 948 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's ugly and gross and like really 949 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: beautiful ways. It's yeah, I'm getting super into queer. I'm 950 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: so we just moved, and so I'm getting really into 951 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 1: queer art thinking about what I want to put or redecorate, 952 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: and I like got super deep on Natsy looking up 953 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: at all these like old like The Devil is a 954 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: lesbian like old book, like like porny kind of from 955 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: two So it's like it's really like tasteful and I 956 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: think it's I love like old school queer stuff kind 957 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: of from another time because now we all just get 958 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: to be however we want to be and live our lives. 959 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: And it's so fabulous and great and lucky for us. 960 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: But I love this sort of like scary, like taboo 961 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: spooky gay stuff from from pre the eighties. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, 962 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: what's your relationship with National Nat? You are you? Are you? 963 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: Because were you working out of there, like like writing stuff? No? 964 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard you talk about being in 965 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: Nashville like I was. I was, I was working on 966 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 1: my I'm working on my record with someone who lives 967 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: between Nashville and Utah, So I was, I was writing 968 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 1: songs in Nashville. And that's going to be a good vibe. Yeah, 969 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's um. He's definitely like red Red America, 970 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: which is kind of a funny, like I'm trying to 971 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: just make this beautiful, queer, like this songwriter record, and 972 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: he's like, we have so many different kind of experiences 973 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: in our lives, and I think we're finding this really 974 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: interesting balance and I'm I'm super jacked about it. It's 975 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 1: my long time producing Patna who I made my first 976 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: three records with Peter Thomas, and his stuff is so good. 977 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: Music is incredible. Stream Peter Thomas, look at what you've 978 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: done to my favorite songs. Ever, It's like that's the 979 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: lights off. And when Atlanta Stream Peter Thomas um that 980 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: his uh look at what We've done is one of 981 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,919 Speaker 1: those moments like on the train coming across the train 982 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: um from Brooklyn into Disney, when you crossed the bridge 983 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: and you're above ground, and I was listening to it 984 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 1: and I was like looking the sun who was setting 985 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: over Manhattan, and and uh, look at what We've done 986 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: was playing and I was like, wow, this is a moment. 987 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm having a flash right now because I remember well, 988 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: first of all that and also like like the song 989 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 1: just thought you should know. Like when I first heard that, 990 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is like you just so 991 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: happened to lyrically and like Sonic you're like, yeah, my 992 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: life Yeah. And so I really wanted to get back 993 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: with my ex at point, and I was like, I 994 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: was like, the song is perfectly saying what I want 995 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: to say, and it's good that I didn't act on 996 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: those impulses looking back, but like that's why the song 997 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: instead of did the thing exactly? Why let me live 998 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 1: out this thing in a song. There's a big pot 999 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: of especially like as a married lady at thirty, my 1000 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: life is I don't I'm not trying to like I 1001 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: have a lot of experience. I do things for the 1002 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: experience a lot. I love Like I was never I 1003 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: don't have taste like taste as far as like men 1004 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: or women, like if you can make me like I've 1005 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 1: never I've always been just down because I'm like, so what, 1006 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: especially at like twenty three, I was like, cool, I'll 1007 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: have some weird experience with this person I would never 1008 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: ordinarily go out with, and how rich does that make 1009 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: my life? Like I've always been? But now I can't. 1010 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: It's I have less of that, uh agency by choice, 1011 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: because I want to have like kind of a stable, 1012 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: you know, emotional life, and so there's a lot of 1013 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: I think my responsibility and songwriting I think about right, 1014 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: like I want to write the experience, and also I 1015 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: think putting words to an experience that it was so 1016 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: real for me, so that when other people don't have 1017 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: the you go, oh my god, how did like Joni 1018 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: Mitchell did that for me? When I was a teenager, 1019 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: it was like, how do you know what it is? 1020 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: Because I know it's a feeling, but I don't know 1021 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: what it is. And then you hear it and you go, 1022 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,479 Speaker 1: that's what it is, and that's like, so I'm trying 1023 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: to really like get super microscopic and go in on 1024 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: a real specific feeling or experience that I go like, 1025 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: I've never heard a song about this thing, like about 1026 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: this one moment if you zoom so far in so 1027 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: that like, yes, it might be more niche, but then 1028 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: the people who it speaks too, it speaks to tenfold. 1029 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of where I'm I'm doing 1030 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,720 Speaker 1: a lot of different stuff. I'm trying to like really 1031 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: focus at using my music career as like a very 1032 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,919 Speaker 1: specific niche stuff because I'm lucky enough to now there's 1033 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff coming up in my career that 1034 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: are all very different to what I've been doing for 1035 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: a long time because Quarantine made us all have to 1036 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: pivot for something, you know, especially as a touring musician, 1037 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 1: I go like, Okay, what figure adapt you know that 1038 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 1: absolutely So there's been a lot of change and growth, 1039 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: and so it's cool too then come back to my 1040 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: music and be like, well, now that I have all 1041 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: of these other outlets, like there's less of me needing 1042 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: to prove stuff inn because it was like the only 1043 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: way I could express myself for so long it was 1044 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: my only outlet and that was really unhealthy. You know, 1045 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm like writing music for an animated kids show that 1046 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: where we just got the pilot picked up and that's 1047 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: gonna be and I'm so and I'm like obsessed with 1048 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: it and I'm so passionate about it. And it's like, oh, 1049 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 1: I get to write like a boy band song. And 1050 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: then it's so it's like, now, Betty who record doesn't 1051 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: have to be I love instinct, but I love this 1052 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: thing and I want to explore all these different genres. 1053 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: It's like I get to do that now on the 1054 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: show that it's meant for, and I get to be 1055 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: more strategic about what I actually want to put on 1056 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: my record because I don't have all of this stuff 1057 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: that's like desperate to get out of me too, you know, 1058 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 1: I have somewhere else to put that. And it's like, really, 1059 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 1: I'm really pumped. That's the thing that's Jack Dallist, You're 1060 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: dracked up. I can tell you jacked up, well you were. 1061 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: You wrote this some I think you posted your your 1062 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: artists streams for Spotify at the end of the year 1063 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 1: and I and I think you. I think the first 1064 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: line was like I mean not bad for someone who's 1065 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: like put out something you know in a while and 1066 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: like and it ended up just being this beautiful love 1067 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: letter to like the fans, and you're like, this is 1068 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: the reason why, like the numbers are still like this 1069 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: despite the output or whatever, you know, and like because 1070 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: you're a soundtrack. Because you're a soundtrack. That's what I 1071 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 1: just I love that you say that, because that's exactly 1072 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,959 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. So great because because because 1073 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: just a second ago when like Matt, when you were 1074 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 1: I think I think you joked half joked like yeah, 1075 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: this song is about you that you weren't joking because 1076 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: I know because I know that you were like, oh 1077 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: that's literally and I'm like, no know, because I mean 1078 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: that's I'm so happy that you're happy. Now, wait, that's 1079 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,320 Speaker 1: a lot that like the immediacy in the writing like that, 1080 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: like discussion with yourself, Like I'm just gonna say that 1081 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: that's not even true. I'm bailing on myself mid thought, 1082 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's just like it really and 1083 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,479 Speaker 1: I think because a stream conscious thing, and also because 1084 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: music can exists inside you, like you experience it up 1085 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 1: here in your brain and in your heart your head 1086 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: movies and yes, and so like that is you know, 1087 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: it's just it's not every writer that can just do that, 1088 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like and also it's like 1089 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: when you're sitting down to try I think the people 1090 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: make the mistake of, um, I'm going to write a 1091 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: hit and they think it's like and the ship is 1092 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: long sailed for me on a hit song to that 1093 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: capacity to like it's funny. I was actually I was, 1094 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: I was listening, I was on the pane. I cut 1095 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: you off and I'm so sorry and I really want 1096 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: to hear what you have to say. All I'm saying 1097 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 1: is like it's that specificity that is actually more universal, 1098 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: and it's like even in comedy and like it's it's 1099 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: so interesting sometimes when you get notes that are like 1100 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 1: how do we make this this and it's like no, no, 1101 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: no exist in the specificity. It's like when when I 1102 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 1: when I was auditioning for a pilot season like a 1103 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, like I would I would see 1104 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: every network script and it felt like they were trying 1105 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: to appeal to everyone and they were trying to like 1106 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: type that happened to like a device like what's going 1107 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: to be a hit show in and it's like, um, 1108 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, like it's like has like this diverse cast 1109 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 1: and it's like about this thing and it's like a 1110 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: woke joke, like a wolke joke and in the sort 1111 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 1: of like the bad parts of it and just like 1112 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: that where it's like trying so hard to be the 1113 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 1: thing instead of telling a specific, authentic story about what 1114 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: it is. And it's like that with music too, you 1115 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: know what they can cat Yeah, such a it's so 1116 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: like Pepe poopoo. It's like okay and what else, like 1117 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: we get it. But that's that's such a I think 1118 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: it's hot in I'm I'm in my first four into 1119 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: film and TV. Um. We have a matual friend, Sam Lensky. 1120 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: I think Sammy, Sam and I are writing a movie 1121 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: musical together. Actually he told me yes, and it's really 1122 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: I think it's fierce. You would help that. I think 1123 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 1: it's great. Oh my god, he's incredible And we've had 1124 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: a real it's been such an eye opening experience to 1125 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: save the cat me screenwriting and doing that, and it's 1126 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: something I've gotten really into and I think I hope 1127 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: Sam and I are going to do a lot more 1128 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: of it. Together, which is really fun. Um. But that's 1129 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: like the thing about music that's so specific to it 1130 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: because I had a really different experience in screenwriting. The 1131 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: difference in music is I think the right song can 1132 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,240 Speaker 1: remind us how we are all the fucking same, Because 1133 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: you say, I just thought you should know is literally 1134 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: my life. And I'm like, do you know how many 1135 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: people that song specifically because it's so specific, have been like, no, 1136 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: how did you do that? And I'm like, right, but 1137 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. Different people from different socio 1138 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: economic backgrounds, people of different races, of different genders, of 1139 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: different identities sexually, like all types of people have been 1140 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: like that is literally my life. And I'm like, right, 1141 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: because we are literally all the yeah, and don't patronize 1142 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: me with your art, you know what I mean. It's like, 1143 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: let's tell the story and I can connect to it, 1144 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like real, the things that 1145 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: really pop off are because they get specific and they 1146 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: get real, and that's where the authenticity is not in 1147 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: these things of like let's type into, let's type into 1148 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 1: get an algorithm of what's going to work, because we 1149 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: feel there's no soul, there's no one who can be 1150 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: more youwer than you do. And also, by the way, 1151 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: like I am a huge proponent of pop music and 1152 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: and algorithmic pop music as an art form. I stand 1153 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: a perfectly sculpted, crafted nothing pop song. I love black 1154 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: Pink like that is literally the most people who who 1155 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: hook here, wrap here must rhyme here and then is 1156 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: hit song. And I'm like, yeah, you're yes, You're correct 1157 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: about and I am obsessed. And something I've had to 1158 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: this was a big realization is like, oh, the there's 1159 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: a huge pot of pop culture that I as a 1160 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 1: consumer identify with and love, but that is not does 1161 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: not mean that that's the artist that I actually am. 1162 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of the artist that I wish I could be. 1163 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 1: And it's like, because the part of me that wishes 1164 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 1: I could like be five ft three in the bra 1165 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: on stage in the rain at Brittany at the end 1166 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: with a clear cowboy hat doing the like sexy pop 1167 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,760 Speaker 1: star thing where you have the full choreography and seventy 1168 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 1: five dancers and it's all tightened together. It's like, well, actually, 1169 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: like I'm a big giant girl who like played cello 1170 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,879 Speaker 1: in my whole life, and so that's just like I'm 1171 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: fundamentally and that's not who I am. But it's so 1172 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: there's this big choice of like, oh, it's just because 1173 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,839 Speaker 1: I love it doesn't mean it's who I actually am. 1174 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 1: And I've had to shed a lot of stuff that 1175 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 1: isn't really authentic to me actually because of how much 1176 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: of that part of culture that I love. Now that 1177 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 1: I've become who I really are, it rhymed better and 1178 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,439 Speaker 1: Ariana was like, that doesn't make sense, and Max Martin 1179 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: was like, nobody cares. And guess what. Break Free was 1180 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: like the biggest song of that year. Now that I've 1181 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: become who are really are, I'm screaming it because I 1182 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: can't believe it. And it's like who fucking because actually, 1183 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 1: who cares? Biggest song ever High Hopes by Panic at 1184 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: the Disco has like thirty five writers and the Brendan's 1185 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: manager told me a story. I toured with Panic and 1186 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 1: it was an incredible experience. I'm I'm literally obsessed with 1187 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: them and cannot say enough nice things. The whole crew, 1188 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 1: the fans, it is so my people. It's like a 1189 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: bunch of fucking weirdos who love Brendon And I'm like, yes, 1190 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: like my fans feel the same way. It's like a 1191 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: bunch of like outcasts who love Betty Who. It's like 1192 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: a very similar energy and high hopes. The chorus was 1193 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: a song that had been pitched as a rap song, 1194 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 1: and it was like the Panics manager heard it and 1195 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 1: was like, this should be a panic song, not like 1196 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: they wanted the hook to be on a rap song. 1197 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: And he was like no, no, no, no, this is 1198 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: a panic song. There were like twelve writers on that song. 1199 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: And sometimes when major labels come together to like do 1200 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: God's work it you go like, oh yeah. Someone probably 1201 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: was like it's not hooky enough, and everybody was like, 1202 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: we're all going to kill ourselves. And then it was 1203 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: literally the biggest song at Top forty radio. It's like 1204 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: nine months and it's like sometimes a dualipa that is 1205 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: major label money at good at Good Work. She is 1206 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: the pop star like that is a at a curated 1207 00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: created pop star by a massive corporation. She had all this, 1208 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 1: she had all the stuff and they said we will 1209 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: expense you into being a star and she said, okay, 1210 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: So what is Doja cat to you? Then? Is that 1211 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: it's like Doja is a an icon in a different 1212 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: way to because her her. She is so authentic and 1213 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: so fucking weird. I was listening to her pre move 1214 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: pre pre pre I was like, she was on it. 1215 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: I was showing this guy I was dating. I was like, 1216 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: you gotta listen to that. Here's a view video for 1217 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 1: the song called go to Town by this girl Doja Cat, 1218 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: and like no one was listening to her, and I 1219 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: was like, you guys, like, who's Doha cast? I know, 1220 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: I know, it's like how do you pronounce it? And 1221 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: like now it's like I feel like Doja Cat is 1222 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: actually algorithm pop star slash, you know, like MC turned 1223 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: giant megastar. Like that is also in some way the 1224 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: label system at work. And that's what to do with 1225 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: her music because I look at her, I look at 1226 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: her entertainer side, and I go like that is god given. 1227 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: Nobody paid for that. And she's like a damn Like 1228 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: she's like people are paying for entertainment, like they are, 1229 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: they are paying someone to put her in rehearsal. And 1230 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 1: I also like, listen, we've all seen the video, we 1231 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: all know the moves. That did not change. I will say, 1232 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 1: I will say I respect that this girl has been 1233 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: in like seeing her now, she got it down. She 1234 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: has that same coreown. She might not be Janet Jackson, 1235 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: but I don't want her to be Janet. And I'm 1236 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 1: really appreciative that she said, you know what, I'm being 1237 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 1: fucking dragged. Why don't I get my ass and rehearsal 1238 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna tighten this up a little bit. 1239 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: And I see her now and I'm like, bitch, I 1240 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: must about like credit where credit is due. I love 1241 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: that about her. This is my thing right now, And 1242 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: like it's this kind of goes back to what you're saying, like, oh, 1243 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: you're the ship is sailed, free to write a hit song. 1244 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: I feel like we're no longer living in a monoculture 1245 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: anymore anyway, so that there there is no thing that 1246 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: like everyone from all quadrants, all sectors is going to 1247 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 1: like zero in on at the same time. It's just 1248 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 1: not gonna happen and listen, Like this is the other 1249 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 1: thing I think about, is I Social media for me 1250 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 1: is fun when it's supposed to be fun, and then 1251 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: I like mostly makes me feel bad about myself and 1252 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 1: I try to disengage from it. You know, I think 1253 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 1: most people feel that way. Probably I am, and I 1254 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: know what it looks like when you're really great at 1255 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 1: social media. Because one of my best friends, my best 1256 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: friend who is my roommate in college freshman year, Sarah. 1257 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 1: She's my writer, die bitch. She's good at the Internet. 1258 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: She speaks Internet, and I'm like an old lady, like 1259 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: totally don't understand comparatively because I see her and I go, 1260 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: you know you, Oh you have it. I don't, And 1261 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: I am having this moment. There's, you know, music, I 1262 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: think everything streaming, everything is so crazy, and we're all 1263 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 1: kind of coming to a head of like, Okay, you 1264 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: can't pay artists nothing. We have to figure it out. 1265 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: We're figuring it out. Stuff has to be figured out. TikTok. 1266 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: Like I went out, She's man, I'm going say it. 1267 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: I went out. You know, I'm taking some of my 1268 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: first couple of singles out to sort of test the 1269 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 1: waters because I yes, yes, that makes total sense, because 1270 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: I have had kind of a not a great first 1271 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: record label experience. But I also believe that, like I 1272 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 1: also see what happens when record labels are put to lizza. 1273 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: So I feel very connected to as an artist. She's 1274 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: making the music she wants to make. She wants to 1275 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: make a good fucking vibe and she wants to entertain people, 1276 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: and I go like same, and she loves a sparkle 1277 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like yeah, no, no, no, we were like 1278 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 1: same demo before she got really famous. We were both 1279 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 1: on tour a month apart, and so I was at 1280 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: every venue behind her and we had a co headline 1281 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: tour booked. And then she popped off and I was like, 1282 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 1: by you enjoy the Grammys. Yeah. We were like we 1283 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 1: were doing this. We were literally like in it together. 1284 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: I was like, that's my bitch, Like we didn't know 1285 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: each other, but I was like you and me, sister, 1286 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: like I feel kinship here. And then she had her 1287 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: moment and I was like, what one day for me, 1288 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 1: it'll happen. But she I feel like that is major 1289 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 1: label money, going like, no, we can support what you 1290 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: do and make it massive. And that's all I ever 1291 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 1: wanted was to be like I will do I will 1292 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: do the work. I love to work, I love it. 1293 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: Point me in the direction and say dance, monkey, dance, 1294 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 1: and I am so spread for your validation. I'm happy 1295 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: to please. And so I had this bad experience at 1296 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: my first label, and I was like, there's no way 1297 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 1: that there's not a label partner out there for me 1298 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 1: that can do the same thing that has happened to Lizzo, 1299 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: to all of these amazing peers. I look around and 1300 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: go like, he has had the right that's just the 1301 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 1: right relationship. And I was a baby at ossier. I 1302 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 1: made so many mistakes because I didn't have good guidance 1303 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 1: because nobody, how do you know, I didn't have peers 1304 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: in the industry that I could actually know. I was young, 1305 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: and it was me and all my friends for who 1306 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: just graduated from college and we were living in New 1307 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: York and I signed a record deal, and I was 1308 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: the first one out of Berkeley that I knew other 1309 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: than Chili Childie Pooth and I went to school together, 1310 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: and so he signed to Ellen's label, but he had 1311 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: he was like famous immediately, and I was like a 1312 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: cult hit with the gays and then just like played 1313 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: every pride in America. And that's so we had very 1314 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: different pods anyway, um straight culture. But but this is 1315 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 1: like I had this moment. I was like, I'm going 1316 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: to go out. I'm just gonna see because what if 1317 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 1: I take some meeting and it's the best meeting of 1318 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 1: my life and this is I'm you know, I went 1319 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: around I needed a new agent, and I went to 1320 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: see a being like the Death Star, like everyone says 1321 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 1: that you're just gonna get eaten the live in there, 1322 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: and I had literally the meaning of my life and 1323 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: they have been smashing it for me. So I'm like, 1324 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: what do I fucking know? Why don't I go out 1325 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 1: and see see what's about it? There's not a single 1326 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 1: record label in this town that will sign me. They 1327 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 1: all turned me down immediately, without even hands down. And 1328 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: it's like I talked to my producer about it. He's like, 1329 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe it's twenty two and Betty who can't 1330 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 1: get a record deal. And I'm like, the but this 1331 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: is where it's shifting as they go. We want to 1332 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 1: sign people with a viral hit on TikTok only, And 1333 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm so embarrassing for you. That's so embarrassing because that 1334 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: just lays bare this truth that like, okay, so the 1335 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: labels are are being subjugated to like this thing that 1336 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: is not in their control at all. It is so 1337 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: embarrassing and I'm like, well, clearly that answers my question. 1338 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to be there anyway, you know what 1339 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean. It's like I don't want to be somewhere 1340 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm not wanted And clearly I just wrote a song 1341 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 1: that I love that I'm super excited about called that's 1342 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: called love Letter, and it's about being like I'm going 1343 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: to write this is my last love letter because like, 1344 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 1: if I'm not wanted here, then I guess I'll just 1345 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: sunk off. Like what am I gonna do? Like wait 1346 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: around for you to decide that you are falling in 1347 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: love with me and you're obsessed with me, Like no, 1348 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 1: like yours, this is what you get. And if you're 1349 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 1: not down like i'm, I guess I have to do 1350 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 1: something different and I just I so now I'm I'm 1351 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do this distribution deal. That's to me, 1352 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 1: it's about I get to keep my masters, you know, 1353 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,959 Speaker 1: it's about ownership, etcetera, etcetera, actual financial gain from something 1354 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: that costs all of my money and all of my 1355 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: time and effort, like as it should be, etcetera, etcetera. 1356 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: So it's everything's going really well as far as that goes. 1357 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: But like it is, I'm not going to wake up 1358 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden be really good at TikTok 1359 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 1: so me being an old person on an app trying 1360 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 1: to force it will not make it any better. And 1361 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: so I kind of them in this place where I'm like, 1362 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: I like, there are a lot of people in my 1363 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 1: ear always talking, you know, They're always talking about all 1364 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 1: the things that you can be doing, and I'm like, listen, 1365 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 1: at what point am I going to be like, it's 1366 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 1: really about now that I'm doing. Also, like writing this 1367 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: this music for this animated TV show, I go like, 1368 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm getting so much more out of a out of 1369 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: jobs again. I love to work. I just host I 1370 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 1: speaking of reality TV. I host the reality show that 1371 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 1: I can't find a massive nd A force. I can't 1372 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,440 Speaker 1: say anything about it, but it will be coming out 1373 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: this year and that's going to be so king ridiculous 1374 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 1: and fine. And I had the time of my life 1375 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: and everybody kept being like, you're such a great host, 1376 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not doing anything. I can't 1377 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: believe I'm being paid to be here. This is the 1378 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 1: best job of my life. No. I hosted a show too, 1379 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: and I was crazy. I was it was wild, It's 1380 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: so much fun. And I was like, I have been. 1381 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 1: I saw Luke Bryant no disrespect to Luke Bryan upset. 1382 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a country guy. I love I love country music. 1383 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: I love Nashville country music, songwriting stuff. So I'm obsessed. 1384 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: I went to my friends um Runaway June. Their band 1385 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 1: a country girl band that I love. My friends Runaway June. 1386 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 1: We're opening for Luke Bryan. So I went to the show. 1387 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 1: I've never been to Luke Brian show, and I was like, 1388 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: this man is in a pair of jeans and a 1389 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 1: baseball hat. He came out here and he does like 1390 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: a little gyration, like a silly He's drinking, ripping. Margarita 1391 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: is on stage halfway through the show. I'm like, you're 1392 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: fucked up, Like this is rock can roll. He just 1393 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 1: just like weird gyration and I'm like it's like kind 1394 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 1: of objectively, uh like categorically an ugly dance move. And 1395 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 1: all of the women in Staples for me, and I 1396 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 1: was like, I'm an idiot, Like I work so hot 1397 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 1: and Luke Brian is selling out Staples Center, having the 1398 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 1: time of his life showing up and I was like, 1399 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm maybe I'm the dumbass hosting Is this for me? 1400 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: So I'm like, this is little, this stables like, this 1401 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: is me going like buck yeah. And I loved being 1402 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 1: a pot of something where someone's like, okay, now go 1403 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 1: make the moment happen. That's what I love. So now 1404 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 1: music for me in this gorgeous, exciting way is like 1405 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: I just get to do what I actually want to 1406 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,320 Speaker 1: do for the first Like, I don't have any I 1407 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 1: need a hit song paranoia because of our CIA or 1408 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,439 Speaker 1: whatever record label, anything I want to I'm not trying 1409 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 1: to make a fourteen minute like esoteric jazz record. I 1410 01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 1: want to make pop songs that make people dance and 1411 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 1: have on like that's a part of it. But I'm 1412 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 1: not going to sit and obsess over it. Because why 1413 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,000 Speaker 1: I have jobs now, I get to go. I just 1414 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 1: want to work and have a great time and whatever 1415 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 1: comes from it. I should be so lucky. And I 1416 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 1: think I've heard you guys talk about this where you 1417 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 1: just become a professional all of a sudden. I feel 1418 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 1: like my first song came out in twelve, so this 1419 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: is my ten year anniversary of being in the biz. 1420 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,439 Speaker 1: She like woke up and became she like turned thirty, 1421 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 1: And I'm a professional now and I'm like I got 1422 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: asked to score this the show that I'm writing the 1423 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 1: music for, and I have zero experience there, and my 1424 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome is going crazy. And one of my best 1425 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 1: friends was like, you're just a professional person now, and 1426 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 1: like people can expect you to ask something of you 1427 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 1: and that you can do it and you just have 1428 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: to say yes and you always know more than you think. 1429 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with that right now because I'm shooting this 1430 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 1: this showtime series, and I literally had that thing before 1431 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 1: I got there. Yeah, it's going to be great. Time 1432 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 1: listener first time called this this this confirmed vibes are 1433 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 1: very good and I'm aided about it. But I did 1434 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,560 Speaker 1: have that thing the night before where I was like 1435 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 1: they made a mistake, like I can't believe this, Like 1436 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to get there and no, not all my 1437 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: lines like who do I think I am? Like you know, 1438 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,200 Speaker 1: and all these things. And then this was like the 1439 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 1: first job I've had where I actually showed up in 1440 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 1: the morning and I said to myself, no, you deserve it, 1441 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 1: and you've worked a really long time and you are 1442 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 1: good and like and like you're actually gonna hold your 1443 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: own there. And then you know what you well, that 1444 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 1: would be for other people to decide, but I feel 1445 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,680 Speaker 1: good about it. But but it's the thing of like 1446 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,719 Speaker 1: you do get to a certain point and you probably 1447 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 1: have this, I would imagine, because there's no bigger stage, 1448 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 1: so it's like and there's no more bigger pressure, and 1449 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 1: there is that thing of like you actually at a 1450 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 1: certain point. And I do think it's with time and 1451 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 1: with age you say to yourself whatever it is you're doing, 1452 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,799 Speaker 1: even not in the entertainment industry, like whatever doing whatever 1453 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 1: it is that you do with teachers, you know, getting 1454 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 1: those preschool jitters, like when a new class is going 1455 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,560 Speaker 1: to come in, Like when you finally say to yourself, no, 1456 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a professional and I can do 1457 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 1: this and I'm better at it than I am ever 1458 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 1: going to give myself credit for me because I think 1459 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,720 Speaker 1: we all have that that thing that and maybe it's 1460 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: like a defense mechanism or it's like, let me knock 1461 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: myself down before the world. Your whole life, your whole life, 1462 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 1: you have sat with your like deficiencies, your self perceived deficiencies, 1463 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 1: So of course you're going to talk yourself into into 1464 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,599 Speaker 1: this place where you're like, I don't deserve this, When 1465 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 1: did you get comfortable doing that? I was just about 1466 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 1: to usk because I wonder, because you're not only a 1467 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 1: cost member of the biggest sketch show of all time, 1468 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 1: but Breakout, Breakout Star and also now you have this 1469 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 1: like flourishing acting career that I feel like you. I 1470 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,080 Speaker 1: wonder because SNL has changed so much in your life. 1471 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Are you at a place where you are like auditioning 1472 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: for stuff and still not booking some or are you 1473 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: like offer only I get the choice of whatever I 1474 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 1: want to do? Like what is her energy? These energy? 1475 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 1: These days? It is like still makes of both Like 1476 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: I had to put myself on tape for a couple 1477 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 1: of things and didn't get them, and I was like, okay, 1478 01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 1: that's and that feels actually very refreshing, not refreshing, coupling no, no, 1479 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,560 Speaker 1: not no, just grounding, keep me, keep me ground and 1480 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 1: keep me humble from my fabulous life fist And because 1481 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, oh, I remember this, 1482 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,600 Speaker 1: I remember this feeling, and I like, I don't know, 1483 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 1: just being just being able to triangulate like um oh, 1484 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 1: like I'm I still have a ways to go, or 1485 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 1: like I'm still not like I still have to like 1486 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 1: figure stuff out, and like, oh, I've set up a 1487 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,560 Speaker 1: nice like base for myself to like work off of. 1488 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: You know, does make sense, But I'm not asked you 1489 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 1: that question yet though. Realizing about the show, no no, no, 1490 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: no no, I'm like, I'm realizing that I've never had 1491 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 1: It depends like it was like when Taylor was on, 1492 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 1: where you stressed a little. When Taylor was on, I 1493 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 1: was stressed. Well, that was a crazy week because there 1494 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 1: was a lot of talk about doing something on Weekend 1495 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Update with her, and then things in the schedule kind 1496 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 1: of got crazy and then like it just didn't happen, 1497 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,599 Speaker 1: and I was kind of like damn, like I could 1498 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,560 Speaker 1: have I could have done something, and then Lauren was 1499 01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 1: like she'll come back, and I'm like, okay, whatever, I 1500 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,640 Speaker 1: don't know this is we can keep this in but 1501 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: like healthy bts, it's healthy bts, but like I don't 1502 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 1: it depends. It depends on my mental state, like week 1503 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 1: to week, like where you're at inside of yourself, because 1504 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 1: then you can be like I kind of had a 1505 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 1: tough week and this is like hard to put yourself. 1506 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,760 Speaker 1: It's like yes, it's like what you do is do 1507 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: you seel this week before life shows like at work, 1508 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: like every week feels like the most important week of 1509 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 1: your life and it and it resets and that's the 1510 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 1: beauty of it. But like I only am able to 1511 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 1: take like a granular look at it, like week to week. Yeah, 1512 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 1: you're so funny. You have to because if you zoom out, 1513 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 1: you're like you do see the court for the trees 1514 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 1: then like it is really jarring. And so I don't know, 1515 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,519 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm quite uncomfortable. I think people can tell. Still, 1516 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 1: I think I still have like a ways to go. 1517 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 1: You're not like walking on stepping like this is my home, 1518 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 1: I own this place. Well, okay, can I say something 1519 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 1: like we can leave this out? But Christian Wigg came 1520 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,800 Speaker 1: back when Will Forte hosted, and she was just kind 1521 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: of walking around. She and I were in a sketch 1522 01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 1: aget them. She like kept like trying on different voice 1523 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 1: as an accent, just like God, I don't think I'm 1524 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 1: figuring this out. Like it never goes away, never goes away, 1525 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 1: you know what. Even someone like like Kristen is like 1526 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 1: still like second guessing or choices being like I don't know, 1527 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,559 Speaker 1: like but but that is so it's it's refreshing though, 1528 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 1: when when you work with people and you see people 1529 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 1: and you get to know people, because that's even happening 1530 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 1: with the actors I'm working with, who are like and 1531 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,880 Speaker 1: it's like like they'll express like, oh, I was really 1532 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 1: nervous before to start this, and I'm like you you 1533 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like legend like but that, but 1534 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 1: that just goes to show like that is such a 1535 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: part of the you know, sensitivity of like the artist 1536 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,679 Speaker 1: or the performer or whatever like that that thing Actually 1537 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 1: you don't ever really want to lose it because it's 1538 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 1: good to have those like if I ever like there 1539 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 1: was a time like in New York when we were 1540 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 1: performing truly all the time, like and I would just 1541 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,760 Speaker 1: walk out onto stage and I felt like it didn't 1542 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,559 Speaker 1: matter how many people. It was like I felt good 1543 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,640 Speaker 1: and I was happy for that. But I was also like, 1544 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 1: I think it's different I televised weekly experience. The stakes 1545 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 1: are higher for you than like walking out onto onto 1546 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 1: the stage in like Oklahoma City, when it's like you're 1547 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,479 Speaker 1: not being broadcast two millions of people. It's like the 1548 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,040 Speaker 1: people who are there there and you're like, yeah, this 1549 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 1: is my home. I know how to do this, like 1550 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 1: you can hit a different threshold, like kind of a 1551 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: like you're in a zone because I'll look it. That's 1552 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,720 Speaker 1: actually it's funny you were like the opposite is true. 1553 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,560 Speaker 1: I think on tour, which is a problem is you 1554 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,640 Speaker 1: have to remind yourself that every show is the most 1555 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 1: important show. You're like, you can get very into like 1556 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 1: just another show, another city, like who cares? And that's 1557 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,679 Speaker 1: like never the thing that I want to bring. I care. 1558 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 1: I think it's so cool to I hate people who 1559 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: are too cool to Carrot's Like, I'm just like, it's 1560 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 1: we're all we just want to have fun. I just 1561 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 1: want to be cool and I just want to have fun, 1562 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 1: and like I care, of course I care if you 1563 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,600 Speaker 1: like me. I'm standing here begging YouTube. I'm not going 1564 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 1: to like whatever. I don't need you, like spits in 1565 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 1: this spittoon. It's like, of course we all need you. 1566 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,720 Speaker 1: Like even the quote une people, I mean, I think 1567 01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 1: it goes back to what you said in the beginning 1568 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 1: to like, I think it's not advice. I got it's 1569 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,560 Speaker 1: because it's in her book. But Amy Polar wrote in 1570 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 1: her book Free Your Career like a Bad Boyfriend, because 1571 01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 1: that was the career. That that was the career advice 1572 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 1: that I got from Polar from her book. And I 1573 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,639 Speaker 1: have interrupted you a lot today and sorry, please, I'm 1574 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 1: just really excited when first of all, that is brilliant advice. 1575 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,720 Speaker 1: But another thing she said that I'll never forget, and 1576 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 1: it's so simple, and it's what you said earlier, which 1577 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,360 Speaker 1: is if you are having fun, they will have and 1578 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 1: that is a hack. And it's actually really it is 1579 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 1: on you too, And I mean, like you know, of 1580 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 1: course there's like some circumstances that are just tougher than others, 1581 01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 1: but you can do yourself so many favors if you 1582 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 1: just and I understand it's not as easy for everyone 1583 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 1: in every situation to just decide to be positive energy 1584 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 1: that day or whatever, but you bring and this is 1585 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: the secret, it really is. I mean it actually it changed. 1586 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 1: It revolutionized my comedy. And I remember that. I remember 1587 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,320 Speaker 1: it was like a mixture of like reading that in 1588 01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 1: her book and also like you know, basically say but 1589 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 1: like watching Rue Paul and like when he said these 1590 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: things like, um, like it's like drag, Like everyone's in 1591 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 1: drag sid holding back, like to go out there and 1592 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,560 Speaker 1: be stupid and have fun and like that is contagious. 1593 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 1: And so when you say like I'm going out there 1594 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 1: and I'm setting the tone, like that is part of 1595 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,759 Speaker 1: the X factor, I think, and that is like actually 1596 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,640 Speaker 1: like something that everyone can achieve if they really let 1597 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 1: themselves get because you have to be confident enough to 1598 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,560 Speaker 1: be like no, I'm I know what I'm doing. And 1599 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 1: it's also it's like ten tho hours, right, It's like 1600 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 1: you earn it because all of a sudden, I've like 1601 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: I go like no, So after I've filmed this reality 1602 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 1: show for a month where I'm a fish out of 1603 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,640 Speaker 1: water the entire time, I keep being like to say, 1604 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: I have notes like I don't know what I really 1605 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:42,840 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing. I'm just like swinging for 1606 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 1: the fences and someone stopped me if I'm doing it wrong. 1607 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 1: I went to play Funnily enough, the Roots and Blues 1608 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 1: Festival was the first show that I had played. After 1609 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,720 Speaker 1: I had just finished the show and I or, no, 1610 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,880 Speaker 1: what was it? It was no, I'm wrong. It was 1611 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,880 Speaker 1: the first show of the Kesha tour. I went out 1612 01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 1: for a month with the best time. I'm obsessed with her. 1613 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:05,679 Speaker 1: Were she She's like not enough people talked about she's 1614 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 1: a down bitch and her music fox I'm here for it, 1615 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 1: Like I think she's so talented. Hell no one talked 1616 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:14,680 Speaker 1: about that very off and the video is amazing. It's 1617 01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,960 Speaker 1: so good. Anyway. Anyway, So the first show of Kesha, 1618 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 1: and it was in Montana, and I walk on to 1619 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 1: stage after being so out of my eleve for for month, 1620 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:24,840 Speaker 1: and I'm literally I'm putting my in ears in and 1621 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 1: I like turning my micpack on and I was just 1622 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden like asture projected out of my 1623 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,280 Speaker 1: body and I was like, this is my home. I 1624 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 1: know how to do this. It is so natural to me. 1625 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,600 Speaker 1: I am so comfortable here. And it's like you you 1626 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 1: earn it, do it? You know? But I have a 1627 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 1: question about commitment. Actually for you, I don't. How do 1628 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 1: you like how? My first question is how sick of you? 1629 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,400 Speaker 1: Are you talking about SNL? Do you feel like it's 1630 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 1: more that defines me? Are you like this is the 1631 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 1: cool thing I love talking about? Somewhere in between I 1632 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 1: love talking about I am actually flipping the perception of 1633 01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:59,639 Speaker 1: it the other way where I'm like, I think people 1634 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 1: are stick of hearing me talk about it. No, it's 1635 01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 1: a cool thing that's your life. Yeah, I will thank you. 1636 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 1: You should stand in you and be proud of that. Always, yeah, 1637 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I always want to talk about it. 1638 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,640 Speaker 1: And yet I feel certain people in my life, no 1639 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,000 Speaker 1: one in this room, but certain people in my life. 1640 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, alright, cool, that's that's an issue, 1641 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: not me, you know what I mean, Like that, that's 1642 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,120 Speaker 1: about you, not about me, Like if you're if my 1643 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,680 Speaker 1: grandness is making you insecure, I'm so sorry. No, I mean, 1644 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 1: but I'm listening. I'm honest, That's what I'm sorry. That's 1645 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,599 Speaker 1: a real culture. That's a that's real culture. Number forty nine. 1646 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: That's an issue. Girl. I feel like i'm I'm in 1647 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 1: meeting you and talking to you like I'm truly so 1648 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,200 Speaker 1: I struck by, like how good you are talking about 1649 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,000 Speaker 1: and this is yourself Like you're so I don't love 1650 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 1: to talk about and I do need I know what 1651 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:51,880 Speaker 1: you mean, but I just I look at you and 1652 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 1: you have such an ease about you know, describing your 1653 01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 1: your life and your career and all this stuff. That's 1654 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. What I'm what I'm excited about and 1655 01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,400 Speaker 1: hearing you talk talk about this is I can tell 1656 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 1: that you're excited, and so from someone coming from someone 1657 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 1: whose work I just you're having from someone else. So 1658 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 1: that's the thing is, it's like I've already enjoyed and 1659 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,400 Speaker 1: been obsessed with so much of your work, so to 1660 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:20,759 Speaker 1: now find out that you am equally excited to bean 1661 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 1: And like I did some you know, silly thing at 1662 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 1: Berkeley when like a hundred people came because I'm not 1663 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,080 Speaker 1: actually famous enough to draw a crowd, but I gave 1664 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,760 Speaker 1: like a must class or whatever, and I one of 1665 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 1: the things I say is like, if you don't think 1666 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 1: you're the tightest person, like and there's a difference between 1667 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,519 Speaker 1: confidence and cockiness, like that is different and it's a 1668 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,720 Speaker 1: thin line, but like you have to believe in it 1669 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,840 Speaker 1: because nobody else is ever going to try as hard 1670 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,479 Speaker 1: for you. No one else is ever going to believe 1671 01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:45,840 Speaker 1: in you as much as you knew. And if you 1672 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 1: were not your number one like advocate and person in 1673 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,160 Speaker 1: your own life who has agency to protect you. It's 1674 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 1: that therapy thing of like there's a ten year old 1675 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,760 Speaker 1: inside of you that needs protection and you have to 1676 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,160 Speaker 1: be the one to be like, hey, don't speak to 1677 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,640 Speaker 1: her like that. Like that's the same thing for me 1678 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,280 Speaker 1: and my career and my my business is like, no 1679 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 1: one knows, that's so dumb. I went to a soul 1680 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 1: I was in soull Cycle. This is so embarrassing. But 1681 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 1: you know Angela from Soul Cycle, she's like the famous 1682 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:14,680 Speaker 1: Soul cycle instruction always takes it was a moment in time. No, 1683 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,439 Speaker 1: she's very powerful, like I'm here for Angela. I went 1684 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,439 Speaker 1: to a class and by the way, I like to 1685 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 1: succeed in a workout, Angela makes it really difficult to 1686 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,280 Speaker 1: succeed in which is my only note. It's not it's 1687 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,280 Speaker 1: about me because maybe I'm just not on her level. 1688 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,200 Speaker 1: And I go, this is not in all levels class, 1689 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 1: I understand, maybe I'll bow out. You keep doing you then, 1690 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 1: but she said in the class she turned it was 1691 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 1: the most dramatic fucking thing that's ever happened. And I was, 1692 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it just it hits you, and and 1693 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,640 Speaker 1: working out can be churched for some people. And so 1694 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 1: this this one Soul Cycle, Angela turns out all the 1695 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 1: lights and I was in my fucking feels about something, 1696 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 1: and she said, she was like, God, whatever you want 1697 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 1: to call it, whatever that thing is for you, why 1698 01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,760 Speaker 1: are you getting your feelings hurt that nobody else can 1699 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,479 Speaker 1: see the vision that God showed to you, and you alone, 1700 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,640 Speaker 1: you have seen what your life is supposed to be. 1701 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 1: You have seen where you are supposed to go. Nobody 1702 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,280 Speaker 1: else has. Why are you out here mad at everybody 1703 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,040 Speaker 1: else for not seeing the vision that God only showed you? 1704 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,640 Speaker 1: And I was like my high brain you know, like 1705 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 1: like hits hits, and it's like, I'm so like because 1706 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,000 Speaker 1: I've always I consider myself such a renaissance. You know, 1707 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,599 Speaker 1: she's a singer, actor, dancer, you know, dancer, she does 1708 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,760 Speaker 1: it all. I write, I want to do all this 1709 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,680 Speaker 1: different stuff. Why would anybody know that I can do 1710 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 1: any of that because I've never done any of it professionally? 1711 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,640 Speaker 1: Why would any like it is silly for me to 1712 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,760 Speaker 1: be mad at the world for not like giving me 1713 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity that it doesn't know that I want. And 1714 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,640 Speaker 1: so it really shifted mine's that same thing of I 1715 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,479 Speaker 1: had a performance teacher at Berkeley who is his name 1716 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 1: is Livingston Taylor. He's James Taylor's brother. So he grew 1717 01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,720 Speaker 1: up in this you know community, this Lower Canyon sort 1718 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,880 Speaker 1: of experience. He is adjacent to all of this and 1719 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,040 Speaker 1: he has so much. He's such a character. He wears 1720 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,439 Speaker 1: it cute bow ties like every day. He's fabulous man. 1721 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: And he teaches this performance class and there are several 1722 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,760 Speaker 1: things that he taught in that class that I think 1723 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,880 Speaker 1: are genuinely like some of the biggest notes I've ever gotten. 1724 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 1: The first one he makes every single person stand up 1725 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,679 Speaker 1: and say their name in front of the class and enunciate. 1726 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,800 Speaker 1: And so someone like my Christian name is Jessica new 1727 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 1: him so beroklely. I was like Jessica new him and 1728 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,720 Speaker 1: he was like, what did you say? I was like 1729 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 1: Jesse And he was like, if you're on stage and 1730 01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,120 Speaker 1: nobody can find you after because they he was like, 1731 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 1: in between every song, if you're in a crowd that 1732 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 1: nobody knows you when I will be so every every 1733 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,880 Speaker 1: break I have, I'm Betty Who. Thank you guys so 1734 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,560 Speaker 1: much for being here, Like, I hope you're having a 1735 01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 1: great time. I'm Betty Who. I say my name seventy 1736 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 1: five times in the show because it's like you're gonna, oh, 1737 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,880 Speaker 1: I think I saw Betty who. I remember instead of 1738 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 1: this amazing band that you're like, what were they called? 1739 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 1: They were so great? That's a great note. And the 1740 01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,360 Speaker 1: other one was you know the feeling when you're watching 1741 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,559 Speaker 1: a show and someone walks on stage and they're nervous 1742 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:09,720 Speaker 1: and you go energy steal it and you're like, oh no. 1743 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:11,320 Speaker 1: And then they go to sing and they're kind of 1744 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 1: shaking and you're like, oh my god, oh my god, 1745 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:13,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god. And then they start 1746 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,760 Speaker 1: and then if they flub for a second, everybody's like 1747 01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,080 Speaker 1: because when you are on the position of power on 1748 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,080 Speaker 1: stage and you can control the room, like that is 1749 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,960 Speaker 1: your you are responsible for standing in that and being 1750 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,160 Speaker 1: comfortable in it and go hey, like, welcome to my show. 1751 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, Oh, it's gonna be a great it's gonna 1752 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 1: be a cool time. And it's like that is energetic. 1753 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,240 Speaker 1: That is all it is. Like, that is a monstery 1754 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 1: that has taken me. I'm trying to really like know 1755 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,800 Speaker 1: what to use where and be really specific about it. 1756 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,439 Speaker 1: But before I forget my question that I had for 1757 01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:53,719 Speaker 1: you about the show about commitment. So I'm a huge 1758 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 1: when I'm a big manifesto. So the thing I'm trying 1759 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,920 Speaker 1: to manifest, I think I DM do this. Actually I'm 1760 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,800 Speaker 1: trying to manifest a perform to SNL it's been my 1761 01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,560 Speaker 1: childhood dream. You know, you see it. It's like in 1762 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,960 Speaker 1: the montage of the thing you see, it's one of 1763 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 1: the things. I see you there. So it's a manifest 1764 01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,280 Speaker 1: for me. It'll happen when it happens. I'm not stressed 1765 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:12,720 Speaker 1: about it. I know it will. But the other thing 1766 01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,080 Speaker 1: I want to manifest now, my big host energy is 1767 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 1: a code? Is a is a host musician? Yes? Yes, 1768 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,200 Speaker 1: marriage And so because I'm a manifest er, I was like, well, 1769 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,760 Speaker 1: I better watch every episode of SNL so that I'm 1770 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 1: up on it, so that I know I should be 1771 01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,840 Speaker 1: in Like I'm trying to manifest this thing for myself. 1772 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a fan and watch religiously. So 1773 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 1: I watched the show every single week. I'm a regular 1774 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 1: on it, And so I wonder as a performer and 1775 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,960 Speaker 1: out And if this is like a touchy like there's 1776 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,120 Speaker 1: probably a press trained way to answer the question. But 1777 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:48,280 Speaker 1: like when people who are not comedians come to host, 1778 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, you know what you're saying, whether you're gonna 1779 01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,639 Speaker 1: keep it, like people coming in commitment is hard, It's 1780 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 1: it's a really awkward thing. And in that environment, yeah, 1781 01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 1: oh my god. And it's so high stakes and you're 1782 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,560 Speaker 1: i'll prefect. You do it every week so you know 1783 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 1: how it goes. And so when you come in as 1784 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,680 Speaker 1: this like completely out fish out of water, like you 1785 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 1: have to throw yourself in, Like there has to be 1786 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,200 Speaker 1: some level where you're like, you either have to commit 1787 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,000 Speaker 1: or it's just not gonna work or it's not gonna war. 1788 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:19,519 Speaker 1: Like the only commitment any host has to do is 1789 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 1: just to be like, I'm down for anything. All you 1790 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,400 Speaker 1: have to commit to is open mindedness. But I know 1791 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,200 Speaker 1: sounds so vague and not that meaningful. But like the hosts, 1792 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 1: you end up doing the best. Or the hosts who 1793 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,800 Speaker 1: are like I'll do anything, yeah, not the host who 1794 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,240 Speaker 1: are like I want to make sure I do like 1795 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 1: a singing thing. I want to make sure I do 1796 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,080 Speaker 1: with something where I play, or a game show, you know, 1797 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 1: like yeah, like who anyone who comes in with the 1798 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,599 Speaker 1: checklist already not gonna work, not gonna work. I'll see 1799 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 1: this is great, see give me, not for me to manifest. 1800 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 1: That's all you need when that day comes, That's all 1801 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,160 Speaker 1: you need to do. Like like like the people the 1802 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,840 Speaker 1: hosts who like weirdly, not weirdly, but like the people 1803 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,000 Speaker 1: like internally responded to the most. And I think that 1804 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 1: the audience is like we're like you're Carrie Mulligans who 1805 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,639 Speaker 1: like literally came in was like yeah, whatever, I'll do whatever. 1806 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't like I got to do this this this. Yeah. 1807 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 1: It must also be hard because I feel like, especially 1808 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,519 Speaker 1: if you're at a level where you're coming into hostess 1809 01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,320 Speaker 1: and l not only is it like such a huge 1810 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:09,720 Speaker 1: honor and so you want to do it right and 1811 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 1: so there's all the stakes stakiness about it, but also 1812 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,479 Speaker 1: like performers are all inherently fucking selfish people, and it's 1813 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 1: so hard to come in and humble yourself and be 1814 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 1: like I genuinely don't know. You tell me and I'll 1815 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,360 Speaker 1: go with it, instead of instead of being like no, 1816 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,599 Speaker 1: I can do Like there's it's this weird like having 1817 01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 1: to kind of open yourself up to in songwriting. It's 1818 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:32,720 Speaker 1: like you have to you know, it has to be 1819 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 1: bad for I can get good that thing. Yeah. I 1820 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,680 Speaker 1: feel like that's probably very similar in your experience as 1821 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,120 Speaker 1: a performer all the time, which is so sort of 1822 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:44,160 Speaker 1: like yeah, totally, and like it's the people who come 1823 01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,600 Speaker 1: in who want to yeah, Like like I said, like 1824 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:51,519 Speaker 1: it's you have to surrender yourself to it and and 1825 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 1: that and that's basically all it is. You have to 1826 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 1: commit to being a sub, a full sub, big big sub, 1827 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,679 Speaker 1: right energy, big bottom Okay, I can. I can definitely 1828 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:08,920 Speaker 1: give big bottom energy, get bottom energy. I am. I 1829 01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 1: wonder like how you must have experienced so I'm sure 1830 01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,200 Speaker 1: and you can't name names obviously, but so many hosts 1831 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 1: who have come in and you've been like, fuck this person. 1832 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,960 Speaker 1: You have to do do the skits and pretend to 1833 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,679 Speaker 1: have fun and do the thing, and it's like, okay, 1834 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,519 Speaker 1: and especially I am menagined you would hope that the 1835 01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:31,040 Speaker 1: ratio was was good, but I imagine that you're like, 1836 01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,719 Speaker 1: it's a really difficult Like when you're having fun, everybody 1837 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,920 Speaker 1: else is having fun, you can't, Like you can, It's hard. 1838 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 1: You can. Sometimes people really get in your way and 1839 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,679 Speaker 1: funk with you and funk with that with your ability 1840 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,720 Speaker 1: to have fun. Yeah, but I mean, but see when 1841 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,040 Speaker 1: you were describing like putting your inner ears in in Montana, 1842 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,839 Speaker 1: I've maybe this is the answering Matt's question premier earlier, 1843 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 1: Like I am I am able to walk into that 1844 01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 1: space now and be like, ah, this is like this 1845 01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,880 Speaker 1: feels like home, you know, and like I never thought 1846 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,800 Speaker 1: that would happen. Yeah, which is so like fucking cool. 1847 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:06,760 Speaker 1: And then and then yeah, and then the second thought 1848 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,600 Speaker 1: after that is, wow, I can't believe I get to 1849 01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,800 Speaker 1: work here, you know, Like that's crazy, Like I took 1850 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 1: a studio tour here when I was and now I'm 1851 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,400 Speaker 1: like I worked here. Like there are moments it's like 1852 01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,880 Speaker 1: so specific and random, but that's the same ship that 1853 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,240 Speaker 1: we were talking about. That's the like your path has 1854 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,800 Speaker 1: led you to be specifically perfect for this thing. It's like, sure, 1855 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,640 Speaker 1: lots of people have taken a studio tour of the 1856 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 1: SNL studio when they were thirteen years old, and they 1857 01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:31,960 Speaker 1: didn't end up being a cost member, but like you 1858 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,640 Speaker 1: fucking did, yea, And it's like weird stuff like that. 1859 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,960 Speaker 1: That's why I'm such a manifestation and fucking queen is 1860 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,160 Speaker 1: because like, when I was watching this is such a 1861 01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,320 Speaker 1: dumb example is an example, but when I was watching 1862 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Glee when I was a kid, so like, first of all, 1863 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 1: Somebody Loves You was on one of the later seasons 1864 01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 1: seasons of Glee, but it was still made it. It 1865 01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 1: made it in which is pretty cool. Fuck yeah, fuck yes, 1866 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,439 Speaker 1: I will take it because some of those Glee versions 1867 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,679 Speaker 1: go all the way off the Amber Riley I bust 1868 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,680 Speaker 1: the windows at your con Doble, also their rendition of 1869 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,599 Speaker 1: keep holding on Sorry Ever Levine, It's better than from 1870 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:09,759 Speaker 1: Aragon sound the like dancing Queen like there don't stop Believing. 1871 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:18,600 Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but Mr Chris did. And 1872 01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,320 Speaker 1: talking about Teenage Dream were in our last episode. We 1873 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 1: talked about Teenage Dream, like the blame thing of Teenage 1874 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,640 Speaker 1: Dream that like that was like that was like a 1875 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,680 Speaker 1: moment for the show. It was like but so so 1876 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 1: Darren and Chris Cole. First thing, somebody loves you on 1877 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,400 Speaker 1: the show, which is iconic, but so when I was 1878 01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,120 Speaker 1: and that was the big manifestation thing. But when I 1879 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,800 Speaker 1: was a kid watching the show, it's so dumb. I'm 1880 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 1: not dumb because he's amazing. I was like fixated with 1881 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,040 Speaker 1: Kevin McHale because I knew that he was an amazing 1882 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,800 Speaker 1: dancer and he has like already has the moment where 1883 01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,000 Speaker 1: he gets out of it. He has like a dream 1884 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,800 Speaker 1: sequence and he does safety dance and he gets to 1885 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,320 Speaker 1: really go in. And Kevin was in a boy band 1886 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,080 Speaker 1: called n LT. Yeah, I think I remember that since 1887 01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:58,519 Speaker 1: for not like them. I asked him the first time 1888 01:28:58,520 --> 01:28:59,720 Speaker 1: I met him, I was like n l T and 1889 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,320 Speaker 1: he was, oh my god, please and I started singing 1890 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 1: like one of his riffs and he was like, I'm 1891 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,120 Speaker 1: so like I don't want to do but it's so funny, 1892 01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 1: like I'm When I first came to l A, I 1893 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,679 Speaker 1: like played some random event that a bunch of people 1894 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 1: were at, and two of the people who were there, 1895 01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,840 Speaker 1: who were like the celebrities that were there, which was 1896 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,320 Speaker 1: exciting to me as like a twenty year old gal 1897 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 1: of not knowing anything about anything, was Sophia Bush, who 1898 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,840 Speaker 1: I had been obsessed with, who I was obsessed with 1899 01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,880 Speaker 1: as a teenager and still I'm friends with and I'm 1900 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,519 Speaker 1: completely in love with her, like I I she is 1901 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,080 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people on the planet. Sop in 1902 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 1: Um John Tucker must Die was like a sexual awakening kiss. 1903 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, what do you say? What 1904 01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,560 Speaker 1: do you say? So like that was a moment, and 1905 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 1: then I was obsessed with Kevin and his dance moves 1906 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,519 Speaker 1: in n L T. And at this weird event that 1907 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 1: I played the first time I came to l A 1908 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:50,360 Speaker 1: soap and Kevin were the two celebrities, and I was like, 1909 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:54,479 Speaker 1: I called you here, I cast a spell and brought 1910 01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,360 Speaker 1: you to me here because like, how many celebrities are 1911 01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,920 Speaker 1: in this town? Yeah, Kevin as hot as hell Kevin 1912 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,240 Speaker 1: and Glee. Glee had him in the chair and like 1913 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:08,519 Speaker 1: with the glasses on and the sweaters and yeah, and 1914 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,880 Speaker 1: dance we have we have, Like that's one of my favorite, 1915 01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,960 Speaker 1: Like a house party with Kevin with Kevin McHale, like 1916 01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:16,760 Speaker 1: put the put the tunes on me and Kevin like 1917 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,680 Speaker 1: on the dance floor. I want to watch. I think 1918 01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:34,920 Speaker 1: a good time some of us just tragically we have 1919 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,080 Speaker 1: to do I don't think so, honey. Okay, but I'm prepared. 1920 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,240 Speaker 1: I was and told me all about please where we are, 1921 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,559 Speaker 1: we are excited to hear your rendition of I don't 1922 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,200 Speaker 1: think so honey, Which, by the way, for everyone at 1923 01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,360 Speaker 1: home who's living under our goddamn rock, it's our one 1924 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,000 Speaker 1: minute segment where we take something in pop culture and 1925 01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,240 Speaker 1: absolutely drag it through the damn muntil it's absolutely filthy, 1926 01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 1: wet and muddy and disgusting, um and ashamed. UM. So 1927 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,559 Speaker 1: I do have. I actually came up with him during 1928 01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 1: the episode. I have one that just came to me. 1929 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:08,760 Speaker 1: I've said a couple that I was like, maybe I 1930 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,280 Speaker 1: should pin that, but I came in with I literally 1931 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,640 Speaker 1: have one oat. Are you timing the first? That will 1932 01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 1: be mean? Then we'll be betty. This is mont Rogers. 1933 01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so money and his time starts now. 1934 01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,479 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, TikTok. I don't know what 1935 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,040 Speaker 1: the funk it is layout wise, I actually don't understand it, 1936 01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,040 Speaker 1: and I actually don't need something else that I'm gonna 1937 01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,760 Speaker 1: die on every single day for hours and hours, like 1938 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,160 Speaker 1: my brain will turn to slush. Now I hear that 1939 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,000 Speaker 1: it's a requirement for talented artists such as our guest 1940 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,800 Speaker 1: to get a fucking record deal of cop off on TikTok. Also, 1941 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,160 Speaker 1: what does that require, like that they have some sort 1942 01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,360 Speaker 1: of like pithy little lyric in there that's like not 1943 01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 1: even coming from the soul of the artist. It just 1944 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,280 Speaker 1: has to be in there to pop off on the second. 1945 01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Listen, I'm on Instagram and 1946 01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,400 Speaker 1: if that's my thirty one could gonna turn thirty two 1947 01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,840 Speaker 1: in several weeks. Um, deal, that's fine. I have my 1948 01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,880 Speaker 1: poison of choice. Don't assign me lure. I'm talking to 1949 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,480 Speaker 1: you at large. This new thing that's gonna sec decrepatize 1950 01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:08,560 Speaker 1: my soul. New word I created, TikTok. I understand, like 1951 01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,960 Speaker 1: you do a cute little dance move, but guess what, bitch, 1952 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,519 Speaker 1: some of you need to rehearse a little bit more. 1953 01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,400 Speaker 1: And also these white girls stealing stuff from black artists 1954 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:23,000 Speaker 1: on TikTok, I don't think so, honey, that I met 1955 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,880 Speaker 1: my energy. Like just watching you get riled now, I 1956 01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,000 Speaker 1: am like I've been sitting on it since you said 1957 01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:33,040 Speaker 1: that they you needed a dance in order to get 1958 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,040 Speaker 1: a record deal. That's that is truly dark. Like I was. 1959 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,960 Speaker 1: I was talking to someone else side off air, but 1960 01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:42,560 Speaker 1: they were saying that their label was requiring them to 1961 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:46,599 Speaker 1: start a TikTok or they wouldn't like promote the music. 1962 01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,000 Speaker 1: They are holding people's like marketing budgets hostage until they 1963 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:55,120 Speaker 1: start to activate their their TikTok engagement. Another thing about 1964 01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,720 Speaker 1: TikTok too is just like I don't think I have 1965 01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,680 Speaker 1: the app space like this thing. It's crazy how many 1966 01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,080 Speaker 1: times I'll be told by my phone my phone is 1967 01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,560 Speaker 1: enough with so many times I'm like Okay, what do 1968 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,200 Speaker 1: I delete? And then like I figure out what I 1969 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,320 Speaker 1: have to delete, and it's like these apps will be 1970 01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:14,760 Speaker 1: taking up space I was trying to make like a sweetie, 1971 01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,680 Speaker 1: like let's go dn't dn't just to make one of 1972 01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,880 Speaker 1: those videos, And the TikTok editing features are actually not 1973 01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:25,240 Speaker 1: up to part. It is so like TikTok crashing in 1974 01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,840 Speaker 1: the middle of editing something and being like an inconvenient edit. 1975 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm too old. I'm busy, I'm too old 1976 01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,760 Speaker 1: for this. I have a job that I have to 1977 01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,400 Speaker 1: do things for. Yeah, this is gonna take me six 1978 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,599 Speaker 1: hours the video that nobody will watch, and then I'll 1979 01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,600 Speaker 1: feel worse about myself than before I did it. And 1980 01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is what my like team thinks I 1981 01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,840 Speaker 1: should be doing. Like it's just crazy that like I 1982 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,840 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I always have considered myself like 1983 01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,360 Speaker 1: pretty good with Actually no, I'm not good with tech. 1984 01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not good with tech, but I but 1985 01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,360 Speaker 1: you're on top of the culture. I'm on top of 1986 01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,519 Speaker 1: the culture and the basics of it all. But like 1987 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,479 Speaker 1: I can to figure out my switch, I'll help you. 1988 01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm as switch bitch. This one got me one first 1989 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,000 Speaker 1: my game? Are you a Mario Kart queen? What's her? 1990 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,280 Speaker 1: Who's I know you've got to be I think the Pokemon. 1991 01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I like, I dip it in that when 1992 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,559 Speaker 1: I can't. Okay, what's your like? Go to group party 1993 01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:22,280 Speaker 1: game Mario? Many games or what's the deal? We'll do 1994 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,160 Speaker 1: the board? Sometimes will do the many games. Yeah, it's 1995 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:28,840 Speaker 1: it's because the board. It's an hour commitment. The board 1996 01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:30,639 Speaker 1: is like an amazing way to pass time. I love 1997 01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,280 Speaker 1: the board, but I don't love that you can't play 1998 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,680 Speaker 1: with less than four players, so that the computers. So 1999 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,320 Speaker 1: you're sitting there waiting for the computer to go and 2000 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 1: you're like, get over it. Yeah, sure thing. There should 2001 01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:42,840 Speaker 1: be a thing where you don't have to watch their turn, 2002 01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:48,439 Speaker 1: just like skip. Okay, do you have it? I don't. Okay, 2003 01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:55,360 Speaker 1: absolutely imagine a circle did the same one? Um? Okay, 2004 01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,720 Speaker 1: Boon Yang are you ready? I'm ready? Well, then in 2005 01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,880 Speaker 1: that case, this is boone Yang's I don't think so, honey, 2006 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,240 Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so many sugar Fena, 2007 01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,320 Speaker 1: what are you doing like doing peach blini gummies? Fucking 2008 01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:11,280 Speaker 1: champagne gummies. Don't put alcohol in candy, champagne problems, champagne problems, 2009 01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:13,719 Speaker 1: but it's a real problem that's affecting the youth because 2010 01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,120 Speaker 1: any child can go up to the grove and buy 2011 01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:20,880 Speaker 1: sugar fena, you know, alcohol gummies and get wasted and 2012 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:24,160 Speaker 1: then crash a car into a damn family walking down 2013 01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,880 Speaker 1: the street and your whole what's getting behind the wheel. Yes, well, 2014 01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:32,840 Speaker 1: sugar is killing our children, okay, and me because all 2015 01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,200 Speaker 1: I want is just a simple sour Pats sour patch 2016 01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,600 Speaker 1: kids adjacent candy, and I'm not gonna be able to 2017 01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,559 Speaker 1: get that at sugar Feena when they're trying to sell 2018 01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:43,200 Speaker 1: me on like fancy stuff that comes in a hard 2019 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 1: glass box, no plastics, whatever it is. I don't think so, honey, 2020 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:51,240 Speaker 1: sugar Fena, Why you gotta be at every weird fucking 2021 01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,439 Speaker 1: mall and across the country. Why can't you just have 2022 01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:58,400 Speaker 1: like a little vending machine situation going on at various 2023 01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:02,920 Speaker 1: buildings and at JFK. I don't know about alcohol themed, 2024 01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:07,479 Speaker 1: can't flavored candy that sug kids to something they should 2025 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:11,439 Speaker 1: like vape adjacent. It's very that and like I said, 2026 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,519 Speaker 1: it's um, it's killing your it's killing your children and 2027 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 1: killing you because you're so obsessed. Clearly, that was a 2028 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,000 Speaker 1: little bit of that. I don't think the honey flavor 2029 01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,160 Speaker 1: where it's like I hate this because I love this. 2030 01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,240 Speaker 1: I did because I was at the groove yesterday and 2031 01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,000 Speaker 1: did bye I I did by the sugar lips no 2032 01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,920 Speaker 1: alcohol in them, delicious. Yeah, I knew it. When they 2033 01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,519 Speaker 1: get it right, they get it right. The sugar sugar 2034 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,080 Speaker 1: fen is like the clear boxes clear. I guess that's 2035 01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,320 Speaker 1: like a gift basket go to. There's like when I 2036 01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,920 Speaker 1: play like a pride in the hotel, the hotel leaves 2037 01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,639 Speaker 1: the pride basket for me, it's always a champagne flavored 2038 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,559 Speaker 1: like fucking sugar fen. But then I eat the champagne 2039 01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:48,719 Speaker 1: candy and I go, this feels wrong. It's giving Yeah, 2040 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,040 Speaker 1: not even that, it's just like this, this doesn't This 2041 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:53,920 Speaker 1: is not like why didn't you just give me a 2042 01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,720 Speaker 1: bottle of champagne and some gummy bears. I would have 2043 01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,519 Speaker 1: enjoyed either of those things more than this combo that 2044 01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,640 Speaker 1: no but want that wants. Yeah, it's that thing of 2045 01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,120 Speaker 1: like I would never think to put champagne flavor with 2046 01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,720 Speaker 1: that gummy thing. It's like, but I guess whoever did 2047 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,439 Speaker 1: it is a rich girl, because here we are talking 2048 01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:12,000 Speaker 1: about it, and you know, you that bitch when you 2049 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,160 Speaker 1: cause all this conversation, as Beyonce said, and what would 2050 01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,759 Speaker 1: be what will Beyonce do? She would say that, Um, listen, 2051 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,040 Speaker 1: it's actually internally just sparked something in me and I'm 2052 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:22,680 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna let the I'm gonna let the mood 2053 01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,200 Speaker 1: take me there. Okay, So this is I can't believe 2054 01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying this, Betty, Who's I don't think so, honey, 2055 01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,559 Speaker 1: and her time starts now, I don't think so honey. 2056 01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:36,560 Speaker 1: Whoever has the audio of Beyonce, Solange and jay Z 2057 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:43,920 Speaker 1: in the elevators. It has been years. We deserve it, 2058 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:47,720 Speaker 1: We have a right to it, and I am demanding 2059 01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:51,400 Speaker 1: it the people. The people are ready. I think it's 2060 01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:55,759 Speaker 1: been enough time and are doing fine. They are doing fine. 2061 01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,880 Speaker 1: She is looking more gorgeous and fabulous than ever. What 2062 01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,400 Speaker 1: does it matter to her? It matters, It matters to us, 2063 01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,479 Speaker 1: the people. And I just think that it's honestly fucking selfish. 2064 01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:07,800 Speaker 1: And I'm going to write a letter about it. I could, 2065 01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:09,760 Speaker 1: if I if I shall, if I if I am 2066 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,920 Speaker 1: feeling so actually jacked up enough to do it, and 2067 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,519 Speaker 1: I honestly think the Salange actually should speak in seconds. 2068 01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm waiting. I'm waiting for a note like the fact 2069 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,200 Speaker 1: that it was just like so it was a huge 2070 01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,720 Speaker 1: cultural moment, and then everybody was like, we love to 2071 01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,560 Speaker 1: forget full circle. Hollywood loves to forget. And I do 2072 01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:28,760 Speaker 1: not believe that this is something we should stand for forgetting. 2073 01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:33,479 Speaker 1: It's time reveal yourselves, because it's not enough to have 2074 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,200 Speaker 1: the acknowledgement of some of what is it. Of course 2075 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,400 Speaker 1: it goes down when there's a billion dollars on an elevator. 2076 01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:42,000 Speaker 1: Now we want to know what went down and specifics, please, 2077 01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:45,679 Speaker 1: specifics please? I want the audio. Do elevators Do elevator 2078 01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:49,920 Speaker 1: videos have audio? At the met? They do? Yeah? At 2079 01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:52,600 Speaker 1: the you know what I mean? You forget that was 2080 01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:56,880 Speaker 1: the right the way ship pops off at the met 2081 01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:01,600 Speaker 1: ball like the Cardian. That's crazy. You just reminded me 2082 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:07,680 Speaker 1: because miss Yang turned herself out at the mat? Who did? 2083 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:09,120 Speaker 1: I didn't go to the mat? What were you at? 2084 01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:13,679 Speaker 1: They had this? Oh that he almost he was invited. 2085 01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:18,240 Speaker 1: I was invited, but I couldn't go. I was invited, 2086 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:25,400 Speaker 1: but um I couldn't know this movie. I played one 2087 01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:26,800 Speaker 1: of the gay shows in my life on Fire Island. 2088 01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:28,439 Speaker 1: That is, like, there are no places that I'm actually 2089 01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,840 Speaker 1: famous except for like West Hollywood, Chelsea and Fire Island. 2090 01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna little film town. I'm gonna famous. Sure, 2091 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm throwing this out into the ether that you should 2092 01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,719 Speaker 1: do a song on the soundtrack, but oh for Fire Island, 2093 01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:40,920 Speaker 1: actually the fucking theme song, I should write a song 2094 01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,519 Speaker 1: called Fire Island. Literally, I will, I will pay you personally, 2095 01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying someone called me I will literally I will 2096 01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,000 Speaker 1: literally wondering if they can pay you what you deserve. 2097 01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,720 Speaker 1: But like, absolutely not never, that's writers don't get paid. 2098 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:56,720 Speaker 1: You know that writers don't get paid. That's hysterical. I'm 2099 01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,040 Speaker 1: just saying like that that has an opportunity to be 2100 01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:03,559 Speaker 1: an iconic sound track, and I think, absolutely right, Betty, Yeah, 2101 01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,160 Speaker 1: you guys. I hate that it feels like we're wrapping 2102 01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:07,960 Speaker 1: up because I don't hate we have other friends who 2103 01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:09,720 Speaker 1: aren't me. I hate that I have to leave. I 2104 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:13,320 Speaker 1: hate that this is the first time where this this 2105 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,240 Speaker 1: is the this is the beginning, and honestly, like this 2106 01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,040 Speaker 1: is the most first meeting. It's truly the fact that 2107 01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:23,160 Speaker 1: you even like we're down to come and do this. Hey, 2108 01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:27,760 Speaker 1: could you shut the funk up? You are successful, fabulous 2109 01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,200 Speaker 1: people who I should be so lucky to come spend 2110 01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,960 Speaker 1: time with. It is my pleasure. But you are our fit. 2111 01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,560 Speaker 1: You can match the funk up. You're right, I'm just 2112 01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm being rude. You know what? You know what I 2113 01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,640 Speaker 1: haven't said, which I've been meaning to. I keep being like, 2114 01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:42,400 Speaker 1: I've got to. I've got to bring this up. May 2115 01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:47,679 Speaker 1: I comment on the you're saying blue that your eyes 2116 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:52,240 Speaker 1: are giving the shirts? Thank you so much. You know 2117 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,400 Speaker 1: I do this us with beautiful blue eyes. We make 2118 01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,599 Speaker 1: choices sometimes and with the right shade of the right siam. 2119 01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,160 Speaker 1: Whatever we've got going on is to rule in Perhaps, Yeah, 2120 01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,320 Speaker 1: I think we're giving rulans. It will just and you 2121 01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:08,320 Speaker 1: are just like I'm thinking. I have to say. It's 2122 01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,080 Speaker 1: like it's that thing of you know when you get 2123 01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,960 Speaker 1: your you have your color. We all know colors. It's 2124 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:18,280 Speaker 1: like it's it's it's violet. I love love that. It's 2125 01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,840 Speaker 1: a violet that's going to be good. But you know, 2126 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,040 Speaker 1: when you find your color and then you're you're shopping 2127 01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:25,720 Speaker 1: as your want to do. Maybe you're in the girl 2128 01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,880 Speaker 1: of like Bo Yang yesterday, and um, you're sort of 2129 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,360 Speaker 1: like you find an item and you realize, I'm sucking 2130 01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,120 Speaker 1: obsessed with this and I have to leave with it. 2131 01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,640 Speaker 1: I can't leave without it. But then you realize, oh, 2132 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:40,400 Speaker 1: I have nine hundred, I have so many blue shirts, 2133 01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,360 Speaker 1: I have so much like of that things in that family. 2134 01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:47,000 Speaker 1: Green is also that's when you're coming like blue green 2135 01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:50,160 Speaker 1: like that. I don't know why I said, Violet, you 2136 01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,240 Speaker 1: keep going keeping. I think it's because you just wanted 2137 01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,120 Speaker 1: to say the word with it with a kind of 2138 01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:59,200 Speaker 1: gus star that I really wanted to say. He chose Violet. 2139 01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:04,840 Speaker 1: What that one Bon Yang chose today? Kind of Violet 2140 01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,000 Speaker 1: woke up and chose Violet. This title of chose Violet. 2141 01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,280 Speaker 1: But I have to say, we really chose Violet with 2142 01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:20,200 Speaker 1: this episode. We popped all the way off and chose Violet. 2143 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,479 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really I'm so happy to meet you. And 2144 01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know we when he said that you 2145 01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,200 Speaker 1: were gonna like and he said he said, like we 2146 01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,599 Speaker 1: have we we had studio time. Was like, let's ask Patty. 2147 01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:35,280 Speaker 1: We've been we've been wanting to and it's genuine Yeah, 2148 01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,760 Speaker 1: I really so my I have a group chat with 2149 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 1: my best girlfriends called Sissies, and I texted hit Sissies 2150 01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,160 Speaker 1: being like, guys, I'm going to do less care and 2151 01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:46,840 Speaker 1: they were like are they going to be there in person? 2152 01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,880 Speaker 1: And I was like yeah. I was like yeah, And 2153 01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,880 Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, I might walk in and 2154 01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:53,760 Speaker 1: it's like a compute, like it's like there on zoom 2155 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:55,360 Speaker 1: and I'm going in to be alone in this room. 2156 01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:59,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, genuinely, I walked up being like, hey, babe, 2157 01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:00,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay. If they're not there, don't be 2158 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,840 Speaker 1: too disappointed. It will happen one day. So this is januine. 2159 01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:08,479 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm freaking've had it any other way, truly, truly, truly, 2160 01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean this is I canswer enough, but all day 2161 01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,640 Speaker 1: it's too much. You are the best. You are the 2162 01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,720 Speaker 1: one I'm so excited for, Like, what's happening, What's going on? 2163 01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:23,360 Speaker 1: And it's just the beginning, and you know we we do. 2164 01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:31,200 Speaker 1: And every every episode with a song, nobody loves you, okay, 2165 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:46,559 Speaker 1: they oh, he knows that he knows to say who 2166 01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:48,479 Speaker 1: in that? Is it a girl? Who? In that song? 2167 01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:52,000 Speaker 1: One more time? Is it? This the instrument, Is that 2168 01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:56,000 Speaker 1: a Chinese or who? And we're not gonna answer that. 2169 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:00,280 Speaker 1: Two