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Speaker 1: today we're gonna discuss some more rookies. On this episode,

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Speaker 1: we'll discuss rookie landing spots that we don't like for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to complain about some of these

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Speaker 3: I have many complaints on some of these Fantasy landing spots.

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Speaker 1: We favorite rookie landing spots. Excuse me before each of these,

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Speaker 1: just like we did for our top Rookie landing Spots.

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Speaker 3: Brock Bauers going to the Raiders in round one. You know,

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Speaker 3: he's one of the best rookie tight ends we've seen,

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Speaker 3: you know, the Raiders selected him once Michael Pennix was

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Speaker 3: just not ideal since they you know, they spent second

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Speaker 2: And you know, Bowers is excellent.

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Speaker 3: You know he's gonna be the starting tight end on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it almost kind of kills the value of two

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Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, I have them at thirteen. But it's

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Speaker 1: but you know, with Kelsea retiring, you've got to expect

430
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: from drop off there in that as well. So yeah,

431
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 1: just not ideal for for Will Shipley.

432
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's like his upside is maybe he gets

433
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: in the tush push package where he's helping Jalen Hurts

434
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: score touchdowns. But yeah, this this is a brutal landing spot.

435
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 3: And like you said, Ray Davis, I didn't. I didn't

436
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: mention him on the other pod, but that was a

437
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: great landing spot in Buffalo, just because they're probably gonna

438
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 3: run the ball a lot more without you know, digs

439
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: in the mix. But yeah, like you said, just one

440
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: pick later could have had a great landing spot. This

441
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 3: was definitely a poor landing spot for Shipley.

442
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we went four deep for that pod too.

443
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: If we went five, I think Davis would have been

444
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: Josh fifth in terms of your favorite line of spots.

445
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: All right, who we got? Who's your fourth guy?

446
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wrap it up with a wide receiver. Rome

447
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 3: Odoonsa ended up on the Bears first round pick out

448
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: of Washington, and you know, he was a third wide

449
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: receiver selected, just an elite wide receiver class. I think

450
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: any other year could have been the top one or

451
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: two wide receivers taken. So I love the talent, but

452
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: just don't like this landing spot for his rookie season,

453
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 3: specifically because they already have Keenan Allen and Dj Moore

454
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: there even Cole Kamet. He's going to command targets and

455
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: it's gonna be led by rookie Caleb Williams. We don't

456
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 3: really know how good he's going to be as a rookie,

457
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: but it's an offense that mainly averaged, you know, around

458
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty passing yards a game or so,

459
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 3: so there's just not much left to go to the

460
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 3: third wide receiver. So this just reminds me of you know,

461
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: like Jackson Smith and jiguas landing spot last year. More

462
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb a few years ago when he landed you

463
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: know Dallas, I said, you know, it's gonna hurt his

464
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: rookie projections, but down the road, you know he's gonna

465
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: thrive once it becomes the guy. And that's how I

466
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: view o Doonsay's career arc. It could be similar to

467
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb, where you know, he gets off to semiso start,

468
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: but in a few years could be the you know,

469
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: one of the top receivers in the game. So you

470
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 3: just have to be patient with him. He is certainly

471
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: capable of being a number one type of receiver, but

472
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: just based on this landing spot, that's probably gonna get

473
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: delayed a couple of years now. If you know, Keyan

474
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 3: Allen or DJ Moore go down like he's going to

475
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 3: step up and be a top thirty receiver. But unfortunately

476
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: you just don't want that. You don't need that as

477
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: his path to value. Whereas you know, Marvin Harrison Junior,

478
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: you mentioned that's a great landing spot. He's going to

479
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: be the guy out of the gate, and unfortunately for Doomsay,

480
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: based on the landing spot, we just can't say that, Yeah.

481
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: Even the league neighbors gonna be the guy out the gate.

482
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, it's I mean it. It makes Chicago

483
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: a lot of fun.

484
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's great.

485
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: It's great for Kleb Williams. It's great for Kayleb Williams.

486
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: But I guess, you know, the a lot of people

487
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: because like Don Days gets drafted in the top three,

488
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 1: especially in basketball a lot, and I guess people are

489
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: kind of thinking Keenan Allen's gonna get hurt again or

490
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: miss a ton of games. But I mean, Keenan Allen's

491
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 1: so good. He missed four games last year, still had

492
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: one hundred fifty targets and finishes the top ten Fantasy

493
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: see yep. I mean, now, granted that's that that you know,

494
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: that should go down a little bit. He's got a

495
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: little bit more competition, But I mean that just shows

496
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: you how like how good Keenan Allen Isn't it? We

497
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 1: haven't even you know, and then just DJ Moore, who

498
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: was also what do you have like a two hundred

499
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: three hundred yard game last year? I mean, yeah, these

500
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: guys and then you got Cole Commits still there, co

501
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: Comet still there, you got a Gerald Like there's just

502
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: this is a lot of pass catches to where you

503
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: just don't need a Dune Day to get up a

504
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: monster season, uh or even a normal top ten pick

505
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver rookie season and you could still be fine.

506
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I didn't. I didn't love it for his

507
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: fantasy value or his immediate fantasy value, right either. It's

508
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: just it's it's like kind of a head scratcher too,

509
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: because it's like he continues to be drafted just so

510
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: high best Ball and it's like, I mean, at that point,

511
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: it's like you better have Kate with Williams and every

512
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: like everyone I don't like because they if you're drafting

513
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: a Dunesday inside the top thirty, yeah, I mean that

514
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is gonna have some season.

515
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: Yes or yea or yeah.

516
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: But that's that's kind of the point that that's the

517
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: beauty of basketball. You do want to go for upside,

518
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, definitely want some Bears stacks out there. And

519
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, Keane Allen has shown no signs of

520
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: drop off. Is he the is he the other receiver

521
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: that you were debating Friedman that epic fifteen minute battle.

522
00:26:53,920 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had he had a J Green Yeah where yeah?

523
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

524
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: Where's ye?

525
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

526
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: Keenan still out here putting up top ten thirteen games

527
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: Route running Man. It just it never fails, Like but yeah, no,

528
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: I totally agree on dudes that It's just I mean, like,

529
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: what what do you think is a real like assuming

530
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen doesn't miss, like ridiculous, Like you know, it's

531
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: within the normal range of a wide receiver bassing time, Like,

532
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: what what do you think it realistic target count is

533
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 1: for Roma dunes there?

534
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's I was projected. I took a

535
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: deep dive the other day projecting the bearers. It's so

536
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: tricky right now. I have, you know, Key and Ellen

537
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: right around five catches a game, DJ Moore just under five,

538
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: like four point seven and doing day, you know, three

539
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: point seven catches a game, and I feel confident, you know,

540
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: with that split. But it's just it's, I like all

541
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 3: three receivers, it's it's so tough trying to divvy it out,

542
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 3: so it kind of all three of them kind of

543
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: cancel each other out. In a sense, like like you said,

544
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: this is all just great news for cablelliames, like it's

545
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: an embarrassment of riches. And we didn't talk about cole Comet.

546
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 3: It's still you know, an up and coming tight end.

547
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: So they're just really hard to project right now because

548
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: I like all three receivers in their own right. But

549
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: that's where I have right now, like five for Keenan,

550
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: four and a half for DJ Moore, and around three

551
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: and a half for a Doom's Day, which again just

552
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: goes to show this is not an ideal landing spot

553
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: for him as a rookie.

554
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: What about you, How.

555
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 4: How do you have those three split up a little

556
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 4: bit lower for like like like three three, like more

557
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: in the three two three and a half, like three

558
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: three and a quarter, Like I think like his prop

559
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: each week should probably be like three and a half

560
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: and like.

561
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: We'll probably go under more time than if guys are healthy.

562
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: If guys are yeah, now, and he can still be

563
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: your efficient like like those catches could still you know,

564
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: be very efficient. But I mean it's just tough with Keenan,

565
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: Allen and and and DJ like receivers that like that's

566
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: like those are some very good receivers. You know, It's

567
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of like Smith and Jigble last year. It's like, yeah,

568
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: he's great, but you're talking about DK Metcalf and Tyer

569
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: Lockett and like Keenan Allen and and DJ more are

570
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: probably even better than DK Metcalft Tyler Lockett. You know.

571
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, that situation like we already know, like how

572
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: how good or you know, how Geno Smith is in

573
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: the NFL. The whole other element to this is just

574
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: we also need to project Caleb Williams at the same time,

575
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: which just makes this I think it's fun. It's you know,

576
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: it's a nightmare trying to project right now, but I

577
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: think it's fun trying to figure this out because this

578
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: could be really good or we're gonna be very disappointed.

579
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: But just they surround Cable Aams with a ton of talent.

580
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: He has no excuses as a rookie. But yeah, like

581
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: having Rama Dunes as your number three receiver is pretty

582
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: pretty good. Bet Bekay, Betty Good.

583
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, can't believe curb ended that was my show,

584
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that it does. It's almost like

585
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: the opposite of this Bryce Young uh great type of situations,

586
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: Like it's like, no matter, no matter how bad Kable

587
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: Williams is, he could only like statistically, he could probably

588
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: only be so bad. I mean, guys are just getting injured,

589
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: dropping like flies out here.

590
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: You know who I feel bad for though, just in

591
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: the Fields because right his rookie season, who the hell

592
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: was he had, like Marquis Goodwin, Darnell Mooney was, you know,

593
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: uh al Alan Robinson, Like they didn't really set him

594
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: up for success. And now he's backing up Russell Wilson

595
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: on the Steelers and he gets to see you know,

596
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: Cable Wlliams with his great trip receivers. I feel bad

597
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: for Justin Fields.

598
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: And if they were if they were, if they had

599
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: cat fields, that means they could have like they could

600
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: have said Marvin Harrison and Roan number four. They wouldn't

601
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: have actually done that, I don't think, but you never

602
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: like they it would have like that team could have

603
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: been even more load because you would have had an

604
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: extra pick that you would have necessarily had to spend

605
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: on a quarterback that early. So yeah, I mean, hey,

606
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, the thing is he showed flashes, but he

607
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: never put it together. I think. I mean the fact

608
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 1: that it was weird to me that Tomlin was just

609
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: so like set on, like, oh, Russell Wilson's our quarterback,

610
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Like that just struck me as weird, Like why not

611
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: just let him battle it out? I mean, it wasn't

612
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson was that much better to where like,

613
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: oh man, we got it, because like that's the whole

614
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: problem with Russell Wilson. Everywhere he goes, people were just like,

615
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, he he's like out of touch with reality,

616
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: and then you just like anoint him the starter role after.

617
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: Like he's he's minus a thousand to start week went.

618
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: Are you saying we should nibble on Justin Fields at

619
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: like plus six hundred here to be the weak one star?

620
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, just for the Yeah, yeah, because

621
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: like Justin might just might just put like a banana

622
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: peo out in the in the cafeteria. Yeah, I mean yeah,

623
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that the odds are that crazy.

624
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: That's wild, Yeah, because I mean that's like brusse Olskan

625
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: tweaks something and just not even be healthy for week one,

626
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: that sorcenario.

627
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: To just yeah, and like the like I guess they

628
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: at this point they were they just not play them

629
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: in the preseason. Because it's also like if they play

630
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: them in the preseason and it's horrible, what do they do?

631
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? There's a lot of ways

632
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: that Yeah, I gotta I gotta go find that that

633
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: bat and make it. Yeah, justin Field, that's that's pretty intriguing.

634
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: What if Justin Field starts a kick returner? Does that count?

635
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: No, he has to start at quarterback. They make that

636
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: very clear.

637
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: But what if it's like a Taysom Hill thing where

638
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: like he gets the first snaff with that count?

639
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: Look like, I think I think you would present a

640
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: very compelling case if that would happen.

641
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot of it. Yeah, it'd be all right,

642
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: we digress. I'll close it out with the fourth guy

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Speaker 1: who's landing spot I do not like as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: Jaywen McMillen. Another feels like we're picking on these Washington guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, well three out of four. Shipley was in

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Speaker 1: the mix. But yeah, Jay McMillan wide receiver goes to

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Speaker 1: the Bucks late in round three, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: down the line, he might be a replacement for Chris Godwin,

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Speaker 1: who I don't know if they're financially going to be

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Speaker 1: able to keep beyond this season. So uh, that's good

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Speaker 1: for his future prospects perhaps, but in terms of this year,

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Speaker 1: at best, he starts the years the wide receiver four

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Speaker 1: behind Evans Godwin and Trey Palmer, who had a pretty

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Speaker 1: good rookie year in his own right. And then on

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Speaker 1: top of that, you know, like let's say he took

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Speaker 1: the he got the Paul role, which I think is unlikely,

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Speaker 1: like Paul only I averaged four targets a game last year. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, this pass offense could potentially

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Speaker 1: take a step back because Dave Canalis now goes after

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Speaker 1: one year stop in Tampa in which he resurrected Mayfield

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Speaker 1: a year after resurrecting Gino, now he goes to Carolina

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Speaker 1: and Gino it was subtle, but uh, he did drop

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Speaker 1: off pretty much across the board statistically pretty big drops

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Speaker 1: and completion rate sixty nine point eight percent to sixty

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Speaker 1: four to seven, touchdown rate five point two to four

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Speaker 1: point zero, passer rating one O one to ninety two

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Speaker 1: for Gino. So uh, this buck pass offense could take

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Speaker 1: a step back. Which that's even worse for a guy

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Speaker 1: who's you know, at best gonna be you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: ends year as a number three receiver, but more than

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Speaker 1: likely it's gonna be the number four because I think

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Speaker 1: Palmer showed very well last year, especially in down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: You know, he made some key grabs in the in

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Speaker 1: the postseason and whatnot. So, uh, you know, like to

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Speaker 1: find some some some gems here in Round three or

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Speaker 1: you know, end of Day two at wide receiver. But

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Speaker 1: you know, Jayalen McMillan, I just Tampa Bay just not

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Speaker 1: the ideal spot I think for a guy like him

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Speaker 1: to go for this year at least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think maybe maybe this is just a plan

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Speaker 3: to piss off Trey Palmer get in some competition, because,

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Speaker 3: as our fellow colleague Nick Giffin pointed out and the postseason,

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Speaker 3: Trey Palmer had scored a touchdown after every time he

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Speaker 3: tweeted off he was pissed off. So maybe this is

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Speaker 3: just the Bucks brand plan to make sure he's continually

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Speaker 3: pissed off this year. Yeah, I would kill you know,

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Speaker 3: breathing down his neck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So so essentially bump up Trey Palmer. H Yeah,

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Speaker 1: him and Oughten were pretty much equal with targets last year.

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Speaker 1: I think he had one more during the regular season,

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Speaker 1: so maybe there's some more separation this year. Yeah. Realistically,

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Speaker 1: dynasty wise, I like they're already paying Godwin what over

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Speaker 1: twenty million year, twenty MILLI year or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Like he's probably gonna comand even more next year, so

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Speaker 1: I think they'll like McMillan is like the logical succession planner,

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Speaker 1: at least they want that to have that option. So

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the plan for him. All right,

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