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Speaker 2: Katie, well.
Speaker 3: You all listening.
Speaker 4: There was a hot second when Josh Molina and Scott
Speaker 4: Foley were like, we should host the Scandal podcast and
Speaker 4: Scott talked to Shonda about it, and Shanda was like, oh,
Speaker 4: Katie and g you're already doing that. It's been in
Speaker 4: the works for years.
Speaker 1: Oh man, what a different vibe it would have been, right,
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, it would have still been great,
Speaker 1: but you know.
Speaker 4: We could like let them sit in our chairs for
Speaker 4: like maybe half an episode, like how I sit in
Speaker 4: for Kelly Rippa, Like maybe Josh or Scott could sit
Speaker 4: in as like a guest host further down the road
Speaker 4: that get out of here, you motherfuckers. We don't want you.
Speaker 1: I don't want them to get too comfortable. And then
Speaker 1: they were really funny and really good, and we're.
Speaker 4: Like, uh, well, they also have a very different relationship
Speaker 4: than me and you. I mean, those two are just
Speaker 4: god awful to each other. They love each other so much,
Speaker 4: but they're like they have that sort of like frat
Speaker 4: boy relationship where they're just straight up ballbusters to each
Speaker 4: other and Dick, so it would be a probably very
Speaker 4: angry show.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you remember that time, Katie that
Speaker 1: we were at sex fifth avebue.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna bring it up.
Speaker 1: We had an event at sex Fifth Avenue where the
Speaker 1: clothing from the show right was being displayed and there
Speaker 1: was gonna be a line of clothing from you know,
Speaker 1: by Lin Paolo Limited. Yeah. Yeah, we show up and
Speaker 1: there's a red car fly to New York.
Speaker 4: Yes, and they've redone the window treatments Sax fifth Avenue
Speaker 4: to be all of our characters in our clothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's like mannequin's that look like, yes, in
Speaker 1: our clothing.
Speaker 4: Yo, mine was hot. I kind of remember that. I
Speaker 4: was like, dam.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you have been awesome if we could keep those?
Speaker 1: Where are they? Like? Are they dressed somewhere? Like? No,
Speaker 1: someone's like that mannequin looks like I think it.
Speaker 4: Was to celebrate the launch of that the Limited was
Speaker 4: doing a scandal clothing line that Kerry Washington and Lynn
Speaker 4: Polo collaborated on. There was the quin jacket and this
Speaker 4: other thing. But we all go and your parents are there.
Speaker 1: There was a huge crowd outside Sexmith Avenue, and you know,
Speaker 1: we're all doing the red carpet, the whole cast, and
Speaker 1: Shonda's there, and then eventually we go inside where there's
Speaker 1: a big party and champagne and there's a ton of
Speaker 1: people in there. The cast, friends and family are all
Speaker 1: inside mingling with us and enjoying it. And I looked
Speaker 1: through the through the glass of sax but having my
Speaker 1: parents are just standing outside with the crowd, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you got behind.
Speaker 4: Like a red velvet rope and it's like cold outside,
Speaker 4: and I remember being like, fucking your most parents are here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And at one point we had to go and
Speaker 1: stand next to our mannequins and they did some pictures
Speaker 1: of us. Remember that, Yeah, I've forgotten.
Speaker 4: We all like climbed in the My mother.
Speaker 1: And my father are standing outside with the crowd of
Speaker 1: fucking fans like I like, waving at me, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't outside, No, I think my brother came in.
Speaker 1: My one brother came in, and I was like, well, fraid,
Speaker 1: why aren't Mommy and Poppy like inside? And he was like,
Speaker 1: you know them, They're they're cool, they just want to
Speaker 1: stay outside. They're fine.
Speaker 3: I love them.
Speaker 4: They did I don't know if they'll be listening to
Speaker 4: this podcast, but they should know they raised the most
Speaker 4: glorious human beings.
Speaker 1: Oh Katie, you are way too sweet, dude.
Speaker 4: We've got episode two oh four, Yes, Beltway, Unbundled Buckled Ye,
Speaker 4: which on.
Speaker 3: October twenty fifth, twenty twelve.
Speaker 4: It was written by Mark Fish, a writer that came
Speaker 4: to us a little bit later but stayed all the
Speaker 4: way through the end and is a Shondaland fave.
Speaker 3: And it was directed by Mark Tinker.
Speaker 1: Remember Mark Tinker. This director was like the coolest freaking Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, Mark Tinker is kind of responsible for saving my
Speaker 4: life and getting me into the Shondaland universe because he
Speaker 4: was the producing director of Private Practice, and Private Practice
Speaker 4: was the first time I was ever hired as a
Speaker 4: guest star in the Shondaland universe, where Shonda actually like
Speaker 4: remembered who I was, and that's why I got called
Speaker 4: into audition for Off the Map and why I kept
Speaker 4: getting called into audition for Scandal and all of these things.
Speaker 4: But my first job ever was the premiere of season
Speaker 4: four of Private Practice that Mark Tinker was directing.
Speaker 1: Way he cast me and did you have a good role?
Speaker 1: Did you have like a Duday role.
Speaker 4: Oh, this is the most fucked up shit you have
Speaker 4: ever heard in your life. It is awful. I played
Speaker 4: a mom who left her kid in the back of
Speaker 4: the car by accident with the windows shut. I want
Speaker 4: to get back to the car. The baby has burned
Speaker 4: to death and is not breathing because there was no
Speaker 4: new air and it was too hot. By the way,
Speaker 4: that is actually the cause of some infant deaths. Now
Speaker 4: they have all of these things in new cars. I
Speaker 4: drive a mini van and when you put the car
Speaker 4: in park, if there's a baby or any movement in
Speaker 4: the back, the screen of my car comes up and
Speaker 4: says like alert, Alert, there are people in the back
Speaker 4: of your car, which.
Speaker 3: Is like a new thing.
Speaker 4: And every time it comes on, I think about this
Speaker 4: fucking episode.
Speaker 1: Of that dreadful episode. You must like, Oh my.
Speaker 4: God, it was horrible, horrible. But that's how I'm at
Speaker 4: Mark Tinker, and that that's how I edged my way
Speaker 4: into shondaland Baby Mark Tinker.
Speaker 3: Okay, Mark Tinker.
Speaker 4: Wait, the guest stars of this episode are superb. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna read the top of them and g the second
Speaker 4: because it's the most people ever it's Greg Henry as
Speaker 4: Hollis Doyle, Deborah Mooney is Verna Thornton, Norm Lewis as
Speaker 4: Senator Edison Davis, Brenda Song is Alyssa Susie Poor Far
Speaker 4: as Becky Flynn, and Wendy Davis is Kimberly Mitchell.
Speaker 1: And then we have Stephen W. Bailey as Noah Elliott,
Speaker 1: Kate McGregor Stewart as Mary, Joe Holt as the Secretary
Speaker 1: of Defense, Christen Carrey as Brooke Foster, Eve Gordon as
Speaker 1: Janet Nystrum, and Todd Wearing is Peter Nystrum.
Speaker 4: Oh, I can't wait to talk about a lot of
Speaker 4: guest stars. Can't wait talk about that real quick, guys.
Speaker 4: The synopsis is a missing college student turns up dead
Speaker 4: after it's revealed that she is the anonymous Beltway Unbuckled
Speaker 4: blogger who has scandally slept her way through Washington, d C.
Speaker 4: A diplomat pops up on the suspect list, which caused
Speaker 4: trouble for Olivia when she's pitted up against the White House.
Speaker 4: Melly causes a scene when she gets involved with Olivia's
Speaker 4: diplomatic scandal. Meanwhile, the relationship between Abbey and David deepens
Speaker 4: and he gets a step closer to figuring out the
Speaker 4: Quinn Perkins mystery. Okay, let's go through the app. G
Speaker 4: what are your fave moments? What happened? What do you remember?
Speaker 4: Give me some story.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Gus. Well listen right off the top.
Speaker 1: This first scene with Fitz and Melly in the baby room,
Speaker 1: where Fitz wakes up, you know, on the couch in
Speaker 1: the baby room with Melly. So freaking good, such a
Speaker 1: good scene. I actually wrote in my notes, Melly, I
Speaker 1: fits hate each other so well. I wish I could
Speaker 1: fight that good with Mike. That's in real life. I said,
Speaker 1: I need Scandal writers to write lines for me for
Speaker 1: my everyday life, because I mean, this is this The
Speaker 1: words that they say are so brilliant.
Speaker 4: This is the time she says erection, and I wrote, yes,
Speaker 4: she writes the way Bellamy Youngler's erection. She's like my husband,
Speaker 4: it's an erection for Olivia Pope or whatever she's saying.
Speaker 4: And that they're so I wrote, they're so mean to
Speaker 4: each other. Holy shit, it's so good.
Speaker 1: And she says, I don't want to spend my night
Speaker 1: sleeping next to a man who gets erections dreaming of
Speaker 1: Olivia Pope so good whoo.
Speaker 4: They are at odds and fucking hate each other and
Speaker 4: they're so good at it. And we get into hawks
Speaker 4: AA storyline where we meet the one and only Susie Porfar,
Speaker 4: who is incredible a gem, and she's says, nice to
Speaker 4: meet you, whiskey, I'm cocaine.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Also listen, can we talk about Susie Poorfar,
Speaker 1: who I believe Linda Loewie are amazing casting director went
Speaker 1: to see a play called Tribes that Jeff Perry is
Speaker 1: in who plays Cyrus, and Susie Poorfar was in that
Speaker 1: play and she saw her and that's why she brought
Speaker 1: her in to scandal, is my understanding.
Speaker 4: That's what happened. She's unbelievable, and play Tribes. If it's
Speaker 4: ever playing in a theater near you, don't walk run.
Speaker 1: We went to see it. Were we together when we
Speaker 1: went to see it in New York? Remember?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I went and Susie was fucking ridiculous. I can't wait
Speaker 4: to talk about who you liked making out with more
Speaker 4: me Susie poor Far or Kimmy or Kim Jimmy.
Speaker 3: Your answer is you had the best time making out
Speaker 3: with quick.
Speaker 1: Obviously with you. Yeah, but so Susie poor far real quick, yo,
Speaker 1: She's been in a ton of shit. I was just
Speaker 1: watching In the Heights the other day and she's in
Speaker 1: in the Heights.
Speaker 4: What does she play in that? I saw that one
Speaker 4: of the.
Speaker 1: Lead characters is applying for an apartment in New York City,
Speaker 1: and she plays like a really sort of upity you
Speaker 1: know god she It was like, sorry, you know you
Speaker 1: have to it's taken.
Speaker 4: I remember that. I remember that. She's unrea believable. We
Speaker 4: go into Abby and David a fucking all the time.
Speaker 4: Now they're just like and they're adorable. They're just like
Speaker 4: adorable in this next little scene and they say, oh
Speaker 4: my god, Abby's like, this is the last time. This
Speaker 4: is the last time. We're not voting ever again. And
Speaker 4: he was like, well, you said that after the fourth, eighth, ninth,
Speaker 4: and tenth time, but you didn't say it over the
Speaker 4: seventh time, So what did I do right that time?
Speaker 4: And you can tell they're like feeling each other, they
Speaker 4: love each other.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but they're so complete opposites too, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't make sense to me. But then they're so
Speaker 1: hot together in the sack.
Speaker 4: They really are, And I wrote the note must have
Speaker 4: been cold, David hard nipples. That was my note. My
Speaker 4: note was shit stage was cold that day because David's
Speaker 4: topless and the scene and his nipples are just straight up,
Speaker 4: straight up rocks.
Speaker 1: I love that there's a shot too, of both their feet.
Speaker 1: They both have very nice feet. What's a deal breaker
Speaker 1: for you with a partner, Like if somebody got fucked
Speaker 1: up feet? I'm like, yo, I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I've been married so long and I've just known Adam's
Speaker 4: feet for fuck ever. But I think, like a no
Speaker 4: go for me is I have like.
Speaker 3: A hair thing. Clearly my husband has like a shit
Speaker 3: ton of hair.
Speaker 4: But I saw a piece of his scalp one time
Speaker 4: it like sort of parted and I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: picking you up, Rogane. So this is the foam you're using,
Speaker 4: This is the pill you have to take. I don't care.
Speaker 4: So I might have like yeah, And he was like, Katie,
Speaker 4: it just parted like I slept on it whatever, And
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I see it happening. We need to
Speaker 4: prevent this is his dad's bald at his brother's bald.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, would you do with Adam started going bald,
Speaker 1: would divorce him obviously.
Speaker 4: No, okay, this all comes to that, Josh Molina at
Speaker 4: Darby Stansfield, you have great feet. Congratulations on that. We
Speaker 4: get into the procedural of the episode, which Jenny she's
Speaker 4: a missing girl. Her parents come in because Edison says,
Speaker 4: you know, these parents are my constituents, and I'm terrified
Speaker 4: we can't find their daughter. And so Olivia's like, fine,
Speaker 4: I'll take the case she's missing. And then Columbus Harrison
Speaker 4: puts it together that the missing girl isn't this sort
Speaker 4: of a student, lovely goody two shoe type girls that
Speaker 4: they that we had been painting in the press. We
Speaker 4: find out that she's the Beltway on Buckle girl, a
Speaker 4: nineteen year old who would get into like high profile
Speaker 4: political parties and just.
Speaker 1: And yeah and fucking date have stud and then blog
Speaker 1: about it, blog about it. Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 3: And so she goes missing. Oh this is what I wrote.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I totally forgot Quinn and Harrison shared
Speaker 4: an office.
Speaker 1: I did too. When I saw this episode, I was like,
Speaker 1: what they were like side by side and you went
Speaker 1: to get a grape? He was like, hell, no, he's
Speaker 1: smacking hand.
Speaker 4: Like I forgot.
Speaker 3: We shared an office.
Speaker 1: Yes, me too.
Speaker 3: We also shared a trailer. Then they moved you to him.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, because I remember from like season two on,
Speaker 1: I think I was pretty much with Columbus.
Speaker 4: Or maybe I only shared with Columbus the pilot.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just a pilot. Maybe it was just
Speaker 1: a pilot, because I remember always being with Columbus.
Speaker 4: Oh, that must have been it. Maybe you were always
Speaker 4: with Columbus and I was with We have to ask
Speaker 4: when they come on, because now the memories have shifted.
Speaker 1: But also just for our listeners, when we say share
Speaker 1: a trailer, we weren't in the same like space together.
Speaker 1: It's a double banger, right, which means too small quarters
Speaker 1: with a couch like a chair, a tiny desk in
Speaker 1: a bathroom.
Speaker 4: Your poopers share a wall.
Speaker 1: Yes, your poopers share a wall. Oh my god, pooping
Speaker 1: was so hard.
Speaker 4: In our trailers.
Speaker 1: Columbus in his trailer, like, is he in the bathroom?
Speaker 1: Is this my chance to like take a nice, big
Speaker 1: old dump, like.
Speaker 3: And you can hear each other flushing?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so.
Speaker 4: Insane, like, yes, why do we always end up talking about.
Speaker 1: Listen, everybody poops I have that book.
Speaker 4: I read it constantly. Yes, because my children are always
Speaker 4: about potty training. They're like obsessed with poop. It's a
Speaker 4: fascinating thing. Party of hell. Yeah, Okay, so they share
Speaker 4: an office. Okay. Quinn gets a lead. We think that
Speaker 4: we found the belt Way Unbuckled Girl in Albuquerque or something,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, let's print out the picture of who
Speaker 4: she is. And at the same time, Olivia's at the
Speaker 4: crime scene looking is it possibly the belt Way Unbuckled Girl?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: And She's like, yes, please tell me.
Speaker 1: Can we just pause just for one moment and and
Speaker 1: talk about how there was a fax machine in this episode?
Speaker 1: And I was like, remember fax machines, all that fucking
Speaker 1: noise they used to make real so dramatic, But Yo,
Speaker 1: we had a fax machine in this episod.
Speaker 4: That is the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
Speaker 3: You're a hacker? How could that not have just been emailed?
Speaker 1: How did it just not pop up on one of
Speaker 1: our computers. They're all standing like you, and the parents
Speaker 1: like Jenny's parents, and I think Abbey right and Harrison
Speaker 1: are all stand around this fact.
Speaker 4: Machine's machine, waiting for the possibility of the like a
Speaker 4: face to come up on this slow ass printing ass
Speaker 4: nineteen hundred facts.
Speaker 1: And then of course Olivia is at the crime scenes
Speaker 1: of very dramatic back and forth, you know, as the
Speaker 1: picture's coming out slowly, she's there sort of uncovering Jenny's
Speaker 1: body at the crime scene. So it works very well
Speaker 1: for the scene. But I was like, yo, a fucking
Speaker 1: facts machine.
Speaker 4: This is not how it would go down. But it
Speaker 4: made dramatic impact. Yes, and that's what we're all about.
Speaker 1: Yes, And once again Quinn is like, we found the girl.
Speaker 1: There's a girl. She's all excited, giving last parents false
Speaker 1: hope about like this could be your daughter.
Speaker 3: She's making promises right and left that she can't keep.
Speaker 4: Mellie is screaming about being puked on by kids, and
Speaker 4: she's talking about immunizations and she's like, give me.
Speaker 3: A seat at the adult table.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be doing this first lady bullshit anymore,
Speaker 4: where I'm dealing with children and doing dumb shit that
Speaker 4: doesn't affect our country. I'm a political animal and I
Speaker 4: want to see it at the table like I had
Speaker 4: on the trail.
Speaker 1: Yes, and can we just say again, Bellamy is so
Speaker 1: freaking good in this scene. I wrote in my notes
Speaker 1: baby puke exclamation point, and I wrote, I am one
Speaker 1: hundred percent on Melly's side in this scene because she's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: all these little snot nosed kids coming up to me
Speaker 1: and throwing up and touching me, and and she has
Speaker 1: I wrote another memorable line for the scene because she
Speaker 1: says this amazing line very quickly in her oh so
Speaker 1: Melly way. It's so fucking good. She says that filthy
Speaker 1: little rot with an eye patch under his glasses and
Speaker 1: cry it's so hard, Oh yeah, and so angry. Oh,
Speaker 1: She's just so good in this scene.
Speaker 4: She's so good.
Speaker 1: And there's also she brings up vaccines in this scene.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that, Katie? And I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: what a vaccine dig because she's like, how do parents
Speaker 1: not get their fucking kids vaccinated? How stupid can you be?
Speaker 1: It's the twentieth century or whatever? And I was like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: sort of.
Speaker 4: I can hear Shonda in that line so much because
Speaker 4: I've I've talked with her so much about being a
Speaker 4: mom and we've been moms together and like vaccinations and
Speaker 4: immunizations for our kids, and we've done so much about
Speaker 4: that on Katie's crib. But like I can hear you know,
Speaker 4: I think when you're a showrunner of a doctor show
Speaker 4: for twenty years or however long Grais on me has
Speaker 4: been on plus private practice, Like, I think she's just
Speaker 4: such a she's a proponent of science, guys, which is
Speaker 4: I hear it out of Mellie's speech where she's like.
Speaker 3: What the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 4: This is fucking science immune, Like I shouldn't even be
Speaker 4: spending time talking to these parents about vaccinations or whatever
Speaker 4: she is doing.
Speaker 1: This is so stee, Like, what do you fucking think
Speaker 1: and get the vaccination? Your kid is gonna get smallpox
Speaker 1: or whatever?
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly yea, And Tony says for her to suck
Speaker 4: it up, suck it and deal with it.
Speaker 1: They're so good. We'll be right back, guys.
Speaker 4: We cut to the Morgue scene, probably to see the
Speaker 4: Beltway unbuckled girl and get some about how she died.
Speaker 3: And it's Stephen W. Bailey as Noah Elliott.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he is also the bartender on Grey's Anatomy.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's that guy that you've seen in movies and
Speaker 1: ever shows, commercials. He's been in a ton of commercials, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just that face that you're like, oh, there's that dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I Thod'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4: I remember talking to him on set and him being like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I went to Dartmouth with Shonda.
Speaker 3: We're like really good friends.
Speaker 4: And when she started Gray's Anatomy one hundred years ago,
Speaker 4: like she got me the gig is playing the bartender,
Speaker 4: hoping like maybe it'll recur, and I think he's done.
Speaker 4: Like I think that bartender did end up recurring a bunch.
Speaker 4: Yeah in Grey's Anatomy. Yeah, Grace fans would know better
Speaker 4: than me. Okay. The next thing I wrote down is
Speaker 4: that we learn that Verna is in the cancer wing
Speaker 4: and no one knows because she's a Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 4: And Olivia goes to visit her at the hospital and
Speaker 4: turns her cell phone off, which Abby thinks is like,
Speaker 4: where are you going? What are you doing? And she's like,
Speaker 4: I have shit to do because Olivia can't tell anyone
Speaker 4: that she visits Verna who has terminal cancer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, not to bring things down, but yeah,
Speaker 1: just go there. My friend was doing chemo and I
Speaker 1: went to Nashville to be with him, and I would
Speaker 1: sit in the room with him with that machine, you know,
Speaker 1: and he'd you know, we'd just be hanging out. And
Speaker 1: seeing Verna so strong in that scene is so like
Speaker 1: inspiring and so beautiful. It's so touching. But it made
Speaker 1: me think, you know, so many people that have been
Speaker 1: in that situation and how scary. I could relate to
Speaker 1: being in Olivia's shoes and being the friend who's there supporting.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, what if I was the
Speaker 1: one getting the chemo? I don't know how I would
Speaker 1: handle it. I would hope that, you know, you get
Speaker 1: this sort of inner strength and you rise above you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of the fear and you just do it
Speaker 1: and you get through it. But I just I'm like,
Speaker 1: I admire those people that just have my.
Speaker 4: Gosh, so terrifying and you're putting in something makes you
Speaker 4: feel so sick, you know, like you're putting in medicine
Speaker 4: that is, you know, hopefully killing the thing that is
Speaker 4: killing you, but also it makes you feel so sick,
Speaker 4: it's like poisonous. It's just like I can't imagine it.
Speaker 1: But there Vernon is super regal and strong and stoic
Speaker 1: and stoic, still very authoritative and concerned about Olivia not
Speaker 1: having her phone on. She's like, keep living your life.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? You know? So so great, deba great.
Speaker 4: And this piece of shit we realize lavit, this, this
Speaker 4: piece of shit politician has immunity and is here in
Speaker 4: our country and is the guy who we everyone knows
Speaker 4: killed the beltway unbuckled girl and was like having sex
Speaker 4: with her. Gotten a car accident. She flew out of
Speaker 4: the car and he just like he left her there
Speaker 4: to die. She was alive, That's what the more person
Speaker 4: tells us. Was like she was out of the car
Speaker 4: and had someone called somebody, she could have been taken
Speaker 4: to a hospital. And she literally, yeah, she was suffocated
Speaker 4: on fucking dirt because her body was broken and she
Speaker 4: couldn't like get her face out and just laid there
Speaker 4: for hours.
Speaker 1: Wasn't it for like five hours? I think it was
Speaker 1: like five hours, just like dying slowly? Oh, because you know,
Speaker 1: when you when someone passes away or someone dies in
Speaker 1: an accident, I think everyone's first thought is always like
Speaker 1: did they suffer? Like what you know? Was it quick?
Speaker 3: Was it quick?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Let it be quick?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 3: You know, this girl saw hot heard god horrible.
Speaker 1: But so this douchebag fucking Alexander Lavitch. But he has
Speaker 1: diplomatic immunity, which means, you know, he he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to the laws don't apply.
Speaker 4: Don't apply to him. He's like completely untouchable. President Grant's
Speaker 4: like he's immunity, like he has that I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 4: I don't care. And Olivia is like, okay, watch this,
Speaker 4: and he she makes this huge media spectacle, you know,
Speaker 4: at the White House on the lawn.
Speaker 1: Yes, because the president is the only one that could
Speaker 1: ask Kirkistan, which is where Lavich is from, to revoke
Speaker 1: his immunity. Like the president is the only one that
Speaker 1: can sort of step in and try to make that happen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So as you were saying, yeah, they do
Speaker 1: this huge protest outside of the White House.
Speaker 3: And they're getting some traction, Like they're getting some traction.
Speaker 4: They're like, this girl was murdered and you know this
Speaker 4: guy is gonna get it, get away with it, and
Speaker 4: this isn't okay. Let's all use our voices and band together,
Speaker 4: and they're trying to make like a big scene of it.
Speaker 3: I love the scene.
Speaker 4: Gee when you come in and Abby's all, yeah, she
Speaker 4: like baked cookies and she's calling David Rosen. She's like,
Speaker 4: let's have a day tonight and he's like, I can't.
Speaker 4: I'm busy. And she's like, fuck you, you're busy. What
Speaker 4: are you doing like murdering people or whatever? And she
Speaker 4: hangs up and she's such a bit and she's.
Speaker 1: Eating a cookie. She's eating a cookie. Ooh, those cookies
Speaker 1: look so good. It's so good, And Hucky is like,
Speaker 1: is there artificial sweeteners and those cookies artificial sweeter sweetness.
Speaker 4: Makes rats die?
Speaker 3: Which you learned from your future and girl friend and lover.
Speaker 1: Yes, SUSI, I loved having scenes with Abby because Huck.
Speaker 1: You don't see Hock and Abby together often.
Speaker 4: Did you guys ever have like a storyline on the show.
Speaker 1: We had some moments that we had sort of longer
Speaker 1: scenes together, but I don't remember as far as storyline,
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I guess I guess you guys are.
Speaker 4: Close to like you guys, it's so cool, Like I
Speaker 4: can't wait when we have her on and so like
Speaker 4: everyone has their own like special little relationship.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 4: Me and Carrie were texting the other day and we
Speaker 4: were texting and she brought up an inside joke and
Speaker 4: then you brought up an inside joke, and it was
Speaker 4: so fun, like we all have our little things together,
Speaker 4: like you and Carrie have your own special inside jokes,
Speaker 4: or like you and I have our own special inside jokes,
Speaker 4: or like you and you know.
Speaker 1: It's so totally. Me and Darby got closer when I
Speaker 1: was in Vancouver shooting a pilot and I had to
Speaker 1: isolate for fourteen days, and she was in Toronto as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was in Toronto shooting locking key.
Speaker 1: Lock and key. Yeah, but you arrive in Canada, you
Speaker 1: do quarantine for fourteen days. This is at the height
Speaker 1: of the pandemic. And then after fourteen days, I was
Speaker 1: brought to say we started shooting. We shot for like
Speaker 1: one day. The next day I come into work, they
Speaker 1: tell me, don't get out of the van. Oh your
Speaker 1: barber has COVID. You have to go back into your
Speaker 1: hotel room and isolate for another fourteen days. It's the
Speaker 1: first time, Katie that I thought I was gonna lose
Speaker 1: my mind. And I remember facetiming with Dearby and crying.
Speaker 1: I was like, who am I right now? I was like,
Speaker 1: and she was like, Karam, It's gonna be okay.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, did you reach out to her because
Speaker 4: you were both in Canada and she was quarantining too,
Speaker 4: or you were just like, Darby is who I need
Speaker 4: in this moment? Tell me?
Speaker 1: No. I think we just sort of texted randomly and
Speaker 1: we're like, hey, what's up, Just thinking about you, how
Speaker 1: you're doing, And then we just continued talking. And since
Speaker 1: I was gonna go to Vancouver, I think I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to Vancouver. Yeah, like you said, since I
Speaker 1: knew she was in Canada, But yeah, how.
Speaker 4: Did you get through that quarantine? Did you watch eight
Speaker 4: thousand horror movies?
Speaker 1: Yes? But also after a while you're just like I
Speaker 1: don't even want to turn the TV on anymore, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it just gets so it
Speaker 1: was so frustrating. And in Vancouver they're super strict, like
Speaker 1: you couldn't leave the hotel room.
Speaker 3: Did you have a balcony?
Speaker 1: I did have a balcony, which was like the saving grace,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because I could go outside.
Speaker 4: For I had to do that quarantine in Vancouver too,
Speaker 4: because I was shooting a holiday movie there and I
Speaker 4: had to do the quarantine also, and because I was
Speaker 4: bringing my whole family, I was like, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 4: we need a house, like I can't I can't wait
Speaker 4: wait wait wait.
Speaker 1: Is this the movie Kiss Cam Christmas?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, this one was shit?
Speaker 4: What was it? Because Christmas takes flight?
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I haven't seen that one, Katie, me and
Speaker 1: Mike just watched Kiss Camp Christmas.
Speaker 3: Is it good? I haven't watched it.
Speaker 1: Well, you haven't watched it. No, Katie, it's really cute.
Speaker 1: It's really good. You and Jesse Bradford, who plays Cliff.
Speaker 1: If anybody's a fan of Bring it On?
Speaker 4: Who bring And he's also the leading swim fan, Like, hello, everybody,
Speaker 4: fucking he's so hot.
Speaker 1: I've had a crush on him for so long. You
Speaker 1: get get a good chemistry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I picked him. I picked him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They were like, yeah, they got me because thank god.
Speaker 4: The director was like a massive scandal friand France Lisa France,
Speaker 4: and she's awesome, an amazing director.
Speaker 3: Love her so much.
Speaker 4: She's the She was the producing director at Queen Sugar
Speaker 4: with Avid Duvernet.
Speaker 3: Amazing, amazing director. But she was a huge Scandale fan.
Speaker 4: She was like, give Katie Lows this job after like
Speaker 4: a few other people had passed and I read the
Speaker 4: script and I was like, oh, I want to do this.
Speaker 4: Like I really love a rom com, I love a
Speaker 4: sports movie, I love a Christmas movie, and Mary kis
Speaker 4: Cam is like all three of those things. And it
Speaker 4: was going to be three weeks of like really crazy schedule,
Speaker 4: but one hundred and seventeen pages I was in but
Speaker 4: I was like, I got this. And then they were like,
Speaker 4: here's all the guys we're thinking of. Who do you
Speaker 4: want us to offer it to first? And I saw
Speaker 4: the list and I was like, Jesse Bradford, I get
Speaker 4: to make out with that dude a hundred million times.
Speaker 4: You know, Mary kiss Cam, and it's about a couple
Speaker 4: that has to get stuck on the kiss came at
Speaker 4: a sports game over and over and over.
Speaker 1: Again because it's like a superstitious thing. If they don't
Speaker 1: kiss on the kiss cam, then the team is not
Speaker 1: gonna win.
Speaker 3: How was our kissing?
Speaker 4: Was acute?
Speaker 1: It was super cute. I mean not as good as Quinn.
Speaker 4: Oh god, Quinn were hot and fucked up and hot
Speaker 4: as fun. But Jesse Bradford, I was like, yes, so
Speaker 4: seen those impressionable years and bring it on came out.
Speaker 4: I was that perfect age were that brushing scene that
Speaker 4: is like jam out on the air guitar. By the way,
Speaker 4: if you want to see the hottest person that you've
Speaker 4: ever seen in your whole life, it's Jesse Bradford's wife.
Speaker 3: Her name is Andrea war Trouss.
Speaker 4: She's a vet.
Speaker 3: Grenarian I have She's Brazilian.
Speaker 4: Wait, imagine if a veterinarian looked like Giselle's ben a veterinary.
Speaker 1: I thought you were saying like a vet, like a
Speaker 1: like a military. I was like, Oh, that's hardcore. She's a.
Speaker 4: Goddamn puppies and she looks like Gizelle. She's so beautiful
Speaker 4: and they have a beautiful baby. And we had the
Speaker 4: most fun time ever shooting because we all just moved
Speaker 4: to Duluth, Minnesota to do it.
Speaker 1: Wait, do you remember me anding you talking when I
Speaker 1: was in New York and you were still in LA
Speaker 1: I think you were about to go to New York
Speaker 1: and we were you had just done that movie, and
Speaker 1: we were talking about Jesse Bradford and you having to
Speaker 1: kiss him twenty five thousand times, and you were like,
Speaker 1: gimo his wife was his wife showed up to set
Speaker 1: the days we were kissing or something like that right came.
Speaker 3: I was like, god damn it.
Speaker 1: Which listen, I'm sure she's a lovely person, but sometimes
Speaker 1: scenes like that, right, you're like no.
Speaker 4: And the good news was was like, this movie's very
Speaker 4: holiday like lovely.
Speaker 3: So the kissing was very PG. I mean there were
Speaker 3: no tongues being slit.
Speaker 1: It's not hocking quin kissing.
Speaker 4: No, this was like which, by the way, when we
Speaker 4: get to the episodes of the Hucking Fin sex scenes,
Speaker 4: Garmo and I did so much character work and so
Speaker 4: many character conversations about how Quinn Huck would make out
Speaker 4: and how it's the opposite.
Speaker 3: Of fits and Olivia. But anyway, no, this was very PG.
Speaker 4: But yes, his wife and baby were there on those
Speaker 4: days watching the scenes when we had to kiss like
Speaker 4: eight thousand times, and I was like, this is.
Speaker 3: The weirdest job in the world.
Speaker 4: I remember the first time I kissed him, I was
Speaker 4: so embarrassed because it said in the script that like
Speaker 4: I maul him. I like, I like push him down
Speaker 4: and like kiss him. And I did it, and I
Speaker 4: did it in the classic Katie way, like too much
Speaker 4: and like threw him down.
Speaker 3: And she was like, well that's just like yeah.
Speaker 4: She was like that's just too much. And I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm so embarrassed, like I hate this job.
Speaker 4: This job is I mean, I love it, but it's
Speaker 4: so embarrassing. I'm glad. But he's the best and so lovely.
Speaker 1: The movie turned out really super cute.
Speaker 4: Okay, everybody, I hope you watch Mary kiss Cam and
Speaker 4: think that Jesse and I have the best chemistry ever.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back. We have to talk about the
Speaker 3: fucking best scenes in this episode.
Speaker 1: Are like, there's so many to me.
Speaker 4: When Olivia and Fits are in the restaurant.
Speaker 1: Oh so good, like, oh yeah, she thinks she's gonna
Speaker 1: go meet Cyrus.
Speaker 4: Right, yes, Cyrus is like meet us at our usual
Speaker 4: spot to talk about this whole Lavitch problem.
Speaker 1: She shows up, she turns around, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, she's on her phone, and then she looks
Speaker 1: up and the whole restaurant is empty, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, like security like white house security, starts walking
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh hell no, this motherfucker brought me
Speaker 1: to this restaurant to have a meal, like you know,
Speaker 1: have a talk with me, just me and him. Her
Speaker 1: and Fits.
Speaker 4: Oh so good, and they have this scene that is
Speaker 4: so beautiful. And it's basically like a breakup scene, Like
Speaker 4: it's basically like he's saying.
Speaker 3: Let me go or I'll let you go.
Speaker 4: She says let me go something like that, and she says,
Speaker 4: how is there any future here? And the President says
Speaker 4: we're done, and he says I'm letting you go, which
Speaker 4: is how Verna says, like that's a big theme in
Speaker 4: the episode.
Speaker 1: And he also says, I'm fine, I'm gonna drop the
Speaker 1: charges against Edison.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Edison off the watch list, and this
Speaker 4: whole thing is over, and he and it's a very long,
Speaker 4: kind of theatery scene. It seems like a little one act.
Speaker 4: It's like yeah, and then he leaves and Olivia is
Speaker 4: just broken. She's and Carrie is so good.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's so good. I wrote tearstick. Do you think
Speaker 1: carry used the tears?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. No, Well, I actually maybe yeah.
Speaker 4: I've never seen her use a tearstick, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: put money on if she ever did use one. She's
Speaker 4: sure shit didn't use one. In this scene.
Speaker 1: It just felt, Yeah, it felt it very raw and
Speaker 1: very available to her there, And it's also that type
Speaker 1: of thing. We've all been there, right where you're like
Speaker 1: you want to break up with someone, you want it
Speaker 1: to be over, and then they're like, okay, you got it,
Speaker 1: I'll give you what you want. It's over. And then
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a minute, I don't really want it
Speaker 1: to be over. It had that feeling of like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, now he's really like like letting go so painful.
Speaker 1: It was, it's so good, so good, so good.
Speaker 4: Fitz leaves this scene in the restaurant and says, you
Speaker 4: order whatever you want, it's all being charged to me anyway,
Speaker 4: And then going back, Mellie's so pissed about her fucking
Speaker 4: six hundred dollars skirt being thrown up on. Do you
Speaker 4: guys actually know what does the US president have to
Speaker 4: pay for?
Speaker 1: Like can we just stay first? Like I thought that
Speaker 1: all that shit is just is waived, like they don't
Speaker 1: have to pay for anything.
Speaker 4: Apparently, well clearly we're all paying for the president's food
Speaker 4: and restaurants out and Mellie's skirts and like all this shit.
Speaker 3: Turns out no groceries.
Speaker 4: Yes, the White House comes with its own chef, but
Speaker 4: the First family actually has to pay for their own
Speaker 4: and Michelle Obama confirmed this in two thousand and eight
Speaker 4: on a Jimmy Kimmel appearance. But like, can you believe
Speaker 4: the president pays for their own damn groceries?
Speaker 3: Like, where are they shopping?
Speaker 1: They also got to pay for dry They also got
Speaker 1: to pay for dry cleaning.
Speaker 4: Yes, so when that baby bitch threw up on Melly's skirt,
Speaker 4: it's like she know that she paid for that shit herself.
Speaker 1: They got to pay designer clothing. But there's a loophole
Speaker 1: that designer could obviously gift you know, a piece to
Speaker 1: the First Lady or the President, yes, obviously, and that
Speaker 1: they do not have to pay.
Speaker 4: But they have to pay for staff at private parties
Speaker 4: of the White House. That makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1: Worst stylists, what crazy? Yeah, they got to pay that's ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a crazy fact. Okay, So the for fair
Speaker 1: interior decorating of the White House, because I'm sure they
Speaker 1: each like to sort of switch it up and make
Speaker 1: it a little bit their own. The president is permitted
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars stipend to redecorate parts of the
Speaker 1: White House. Anything beyond that is something they have to
Speaker 1: pay for themselves.
Speaker 4: The Obamas classy, class class act. The Obamas didn't take
Speaker 4: the stipend and they used their own money to redecorate instead.
Speaker 1: White House.
Speaker 4: But since or previously to the day, the best hot tip.
Speaker 4: The interior designer of the White House for the Obamas
Speaker 4: and their interior designer is a designer named Michael Smith,
Speaker 4: who is also Shonda Rhyme's interior designer.
Speaker 1: Out.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that I catered for multiple times.
Speaker 1: No way is he loaded a load head.
Speaker 3: So that's just some fun facts.
Speaker 4: That's when Fitz leaves the restaurant and says, don't worry,
Speaker 4: it's going to be it's all being charged to me anyway.
Speaker 4: I guess that would be a personal expense.
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 3: I think we wouldn't have paid.
Speaker 4: And the kid barfing on her skirt definitely personal expense,
Speaker 4: there you it? Okay, real quick to wrap up a
Speaker 4: few of my other favorite scenes, Ge, do you have
Speaker 4: any few other favorite scenes?
Speaker 1: Well, it's probably the same one. We probably have the
Speaker 1: same ones. That One of my favorites is the Hollis
Speaker 1: Doyle and Rosen scene when Rosen shows up at Hollis
Speaker 1: Doyle's office and is like, what do you have to
Speaker 1: do with Cytron, what's up with you in this Citron business?
Speaker 1: And Jesse you know Lindsay Dwyer's boyfriend who died in
Speaker 1: the explosion. Yes, Adam Shapiro was played by Katie's actual husband. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they found all these Alyssa finds all these phone records
Speaker 1: where Jesse has made like I don't know how many
Speaker 1: calls to Hollis Doyle, which is a huge red flag
Speaker 1: for David.
Speaker 4: So David's putting it all together and is like, I know,
Speaker 4: which leads us to the end of the episode, but
Speaker 4: very quickly before we get there. This is the first
Speaker 4: episode where we see Melly and Olivia working together because
Speaker 4: Melly calls Olivia to the White House and says she
Speaker 4: has an amazing scene where she's like, the it's dying out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the protests are dying out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of the press on the beltwave, unbuckled girl
Speaker 4: being killed is all dying out. And I think if
Speaker 4: you and I lived in Kyrkistan, we would be sold
Speaker 4: off for cows at the age of sixteen, married off,
Speaker 4: raped continuously to give your children no education, blah blah
Speaker 4: blahlah blah.
Speaker 3: And if this dickhead from a.
Speaker 4: She says, a goat herder of a country or something
Speaker 4: thinks he can come on American soil and take one
Speaker 4: of our educated girls and treat her no better than
Speaker 4: a dog. You are sorely mistaken, and I'm going to
Speaker 4: fix this. And Olivia is like, what's your idea? And
Speaker 4: they sort of come together, and Melly walks out on
Speaker 4: the front lawn and is like, no, no, I'm not
Speaker 4: making a speech. I'm just here to protest alongside you.
Speaker 1: As a mother. Yes, a mom. It's so good, so powerful.
Speaker 4: And then you cut to the Oval office where Fitz
Speaker 4: has this maniacal laughing breakdown. Him and Cyrus are drinking
Speaker 4: together and they're like, we've been had the two best
Speaker 4: political animal beasts on this show. Melly and Olivia Pope
Speaker 4: came together fucking.
Speaker 1: Rocked us, he said. Fitz says, I have been brought
Speaker 1: to my knees by my wife and my dot dot
Speaker 1: dot Olivia Pope. Yeah, he's He's just I mean, I
Speaker 1: wrote in my notes, Uh, these two could rule the world.
Speaker 4: This is the beginning of how much. I mean, Yes,
Speaker 4: there's so much tumultuous shit too, but like they end
Speaker 4: up working together. I feel like a lot in the
Speaker 4: course of the series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you Hawk.
Speaker 3: Ends up dipping back into that whiskey ooh.
Speaker 1: Girl, he said, I need another nip. Yes? Are you
Speaker 1: talking about the scene where he tries to stop the dad?
Speaker 1: So after you know, obviously Jenny's parents are super upset
Speaker 1: that the president couldn't really do anything right. What ends
Speaker 1: up happening He's able to do something.
Speaker 4: He gets he gets him like deported, like he can
Speaker 4: never come back on American soil ever, but like so whatever,
Speaker 4: he's gonna go back and live Kirkistan and Chill is
Speaker 4: what says.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the parents are super upset and is this
Speaker 1: the scene you were here? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And the dad's like, I'm gonna go fucking handle this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he knows because the dad and the wife
Speaker 1: are leaving OPA, the OPA offices, and Huck could feel
Speaker 1: like this guy is gonna try to kill this man.
Speaker 1: And Huck has this really emotional, like powerful scene with
Speaker 1: the dad and he's like, don't do it, You'll regret it,
Speaker 1: trust me. And the dad is like do you have kids?
Speaker 1: And Huck's like nope, and he's like get out of
Speaker 1: my way, and.
Speaker 4: Then he's like you don't fucking get.
Speaker 1: It, bro storms off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we think.
Speaker 4: That the dad is like on a mission to go
Speaker 4: kill him. But what we realize it's so great is
Speaker 4: that Huck goes back to AA and is like, at
Speaker 4: the same time, it's like going back and forth between
Speaker 4: the news that Lavich has been found.
Speaker 3: Dead of a heart attack, right, and Huck.
Speaker 4: Is like, I drank that whiskey again and it felt
Speaker 4: real good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so funny, like seeing that scene at
Speaker 1: an AA meeting when Huck is sharing and he's talking
Speaker 1: about you know, usually when people share, they talk about
Speaker 1: how regret full they are about, you know, having a
Speaker 1: slip or drinking or doing drugs. But Huck is like,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. It was the best feeling in the world.
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten how good it was. And I'm stuck here,
Speaker 1: like I'm not going back to being sober all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, He's just sharing
Speaker 1: all this shit at the AA meetings.
Speaker 4: And then how can Becky hold hands? Right?
Speaker 1: Yes, And it's a transition to Fit and Melly holding
Speaker 1: hands walking up to the plane because Fitz is about
Speaker 1: to go to Tokyo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's about to go to Tokyo.
Speaker 4: And then the episode ends with Abby sinks into David's shower.
Speaker 4: She's totally fucking unhinged and insane and is like, I
Speaker 4: know I've seen your walla crazy, I've been in your apartment.
Speaker 4: And we sort of see this beginning of like she
Speaker 4: and David are sort of teaming up against Olivia Pope
Speaker 4: to sort of figure out the Quinn Perkins mystery. We've
Speaker 4: got the whole table of masterminds who come together, Melly Live, Hollis, Cyrus, Verna.
Speaker 4: They all sit down and Hollis says, we've got a
Speaker 4: David Rosen problem. That's the worst accent I've ever done
Speaker 4: in my entire problem. We got a David rose.
Speaker 1: I remember when this episode aired, that scene at the end,
Speaker 1: when Olivia is the last person to walk into that scene,
Speaker 1: it was like it was like mind blowing, like people
Speaker 1: mind blowing.
Speaker 4: They're all back, They're all back. And the episode ends
Speaker 4: with a close up of this whole table of geniuses
Speaker 4: sitting around dealing with that they put this man falsely
Speaker 4: in office. And the episode ends with this closeup of
Speaker 4: Fits alone on the plane to Tokyo to the summit
Speaker 4: or something, and he is just it's like You're looking
Speaker 4: at him, and it's just like all the amount of
Speaker 4: people and lies it took to make this man.
Speaker 1: To put this man in office, yet it was just.
Speaker 4: And you see him and he's completely clueless of everything
Speaker 4: that's going on behind the scenes to get him where
Speaker 4: he is, and he's so fucked up, and just it's
Speaker 4: such a great It was so like cinematic.
Speaker 1: And also he knows it at this you know, he
Speaker 1: knows that these people did all this shit?
Speaker 3: Does he know at this point?
Speaker 1: Does he know at this point? I don't remember. Maybe
Speaker 1: he doesn't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think he knows yet.
Speaker 4: I don't think he knows yet. Garmo and I. I
Speaker 4: don't think he knows yet. He hasn't found it out yet. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't think he.
Speaker 1: Also at another great line at the end of this
Speaker 1: episode is we have a David Rosen issue, because David
Speaker 1: Rosen is you know, he's the fly in the ointment.
Speaker 1: He's the one who was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 4: I texted Josh Molina a picture of him in the
Speaker 4: shower with SuDS and his hair and I was like,
Speaker 4: look what I'm doing. And I just told him he
Speaker 4: was a great actor. But okay, wait the other thing.
Speaker 4: Guillermo texted me the best phok fact ever. What did
Speaker 4: you text me? I'm going back to this.
Speaker 1: Well. One of our guest stars, her name is Eve Gordon,
Speaker 1: and she played Janet Nystrom, who is Jenny's mother, the
Speaker 1: girl that was killed by Lavich. And you know, you
Speaker 1: guys know by now, I'm obsessed with horror movies, and
Speaker 1: I'll always do a Google search on the guest stars
Speaker 1: and see if they've been in any like horror movies
Speaker 1: that I know, or just any horror films. And of
Speaker 1: course I fucking googled Eve Gordon and Homegirl was in
Speaker 1: of course, she was in The Walking Dead. She was
Speaker 1: in a movie called Wuija Original Origin of Evil, and
Speaker 1: she was in The Grudge too. If you're a horror
Speaker 1: fan like I am, The Grudge the first Grudge is amazing.
Speaker 1: Sarah Michelle Geller is wonderful in it, but Grudge two
Speaker 1: is just as freaking good. And there's a scene where
Speaker 1: Eve Gordon plays the school counselor where she sort of
Speaker 1: at the end of the scene she sort of gets
Speaker 1: possessed and she does that rattle that the Grudge girl
Speaker 1: does in the movie that.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's what it is it's like this.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeslf just drops open to like the miscaping devil hole
Speaker 2: of hell and you make this fucking horrible sound that's
Speaker 2: in your whole face is white and your eyes crazy like.
Speaker 1: Love.
Speaker 4: You just texts me the scene yesterday, and he's like,
Speaker 4: full warning, this is terrifying.
Speaker 3: I fucking hate horror ship.
Speaker 1: But watch it. I was like, watch it till the.
Speaker 4: She's amazing in it, and I I hated it.
Speaker 1: And then Katie sent me a video of her doing
Speaker 1: the uh, and then I sent her a video of
Speaker 1: me doing the uh.
Speaker 4: Horror movie were hello time? You know this fun fact?
Speaker 4: Eve Gordon and Todd Waring, who portray wife Peter and
Speaker 4: Janet Nystrom her husband and wife in real fucking life.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that? Ship? So many? I think I
Speaker 1: feel like there's so many couples. Not so many, but
Speaker 1: there are a lot of couples that have worked together, right,
Speaker 1: but have Do you like working with your husband because
Speaker 1: you've worked with Adam?
Speaker 3: I actually love it like I love it.
Speaker 4: I would I would never ever ever want to be
Speaker 4: like a series regular with him on a show. I
Speaker 4: think it would be like going to work is my
Speaker 4: favorite place ever because I'm not at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You want to step away from.
Speaker 4: Me, and it's my own life, like my own thing.
Speaker 4: So I think I would never want to be on
Speaker 4: a show with him, like eighty hours a week for
Speaker 4: like seven years. I don't think it's like healthy for
Speaker 4: a marriage in my mind.
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
Speaker 4: But I've loved guest starring with him. I've loved doing
Speaker 4: plays with him. Anything that's like four weeks, six weeks,
Speaker 4: a workshop, a song, a duet. You know he did
Speaker 4: Waitress the musical time. Oh that so good, and like
Speaker 4: that is great. Yeah, but I like finite things.
Speaker 1: Yes, something that's going to end quickly. Yeah, yes, Well.
Speaker 1: I wrote down some couples that have been together a
Speaker 1: long time that acted together a bunch. Elizabeth Taylor and
Speaker 1: Richard Burton of course, Jessica Tandy and Hume Cronin, who
Speaker 1: were so good he was in Cocoon and oh so good.
Speaker 1: Ozzie Davis and Ruby d were another couple who had
Speaker 1: worked a ton together.
Speaker 4: Maybe that is what's wrong with my career. Maybe I
Speaker 4: should only be working with that. Maybe we are the
Speaker 4: next Kate.
Speaker 3: Burton, and I mean Richard Burton and Liz Taylor.
Speaker 4: Hey, okay. Some other fun facts about this episode is
Speaker 4: like David Rosen's talking on his iPhone at the beginning
Speaker 4: the episode, and the home screen icons are clearly visible,
Speaker 4: which means the phone was not on during the call. You, Josh,
Speaker 4: that's always.
Speaker 1: Such a struggle to get the phones to I remember
Speaker 1: that being the struggle always.
Speaker 4: With our phones on, sen I, I don't like it.
Speaker 4: And wait, there was some other big fun fact. There's
Speaker 4: a top that Carrie's watching like a jacket that she
Speaker 4: wears in this episode.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 4: That's a throwback jacket with a belt on it that
Speaker 4: she wore during season one, episode six, the Trail, which
Speaker 4: I always loved because car it fits her perfectly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's not gonna say if it's if it's
Speaker 1: something else. But you said it fits her perfectly. You
Speaker 1: thought that that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 4: It fits her perfect Wait is it, Katie?
Speaker 1: Is it the jacket that she wears at the crime scene?
Speaker 1: That jacket belt?
Speaker 4: Yes, And what I love about that is it's so
Speaker 4: Kerry Washington. Because obviously Olivia Pope has the most incredible
Speaker 4: wardrobe of all time. But she did take very seriously
Speaker 4: that Olivia has a closet that she would pull from
Speaker 4: and Pete wearing things because that's what that's like.
Speaker 3: Bold do.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, let's get into our favorite do.
Speaker 4: Do Do Doo tweet. I said, y'all, all of our
Speaker 4: Scandal tweets at the time are like, why is that
Speaker 4: jacket the same? Who makes the jacket? There's a lot
Speaker 4: of obsession about the jacket. We love the jacket.
Speaker 3: Can I report We need to report back who made
Speaker 3: that jacket?
Speaker 1: Well? I know, Katie because I did my research.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I am going with you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna read a couple of tweets from
Speaker 1: uh Jeanie Lauren at More and again she tweeted, Hey,
Speaker 1: Scandal ABC, Kerry Washington, Shonda Rhimes, please tell me the
Speaker 1: designer of the coat Olivia Ward at the crime scene
Speaker 1: in beltweigh unbuckled. And then she tweeted again a few
Speaker 1: minutes later, but for real, I'm gonna just keep tweeting
Speaker 1: until y'all tell me who makes that coat? And I
Speaker 1: looked that shit up, yo, it was I had a
Speaker 1: really dig deep and it's Gucci. Gucci is the designer
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 4: Out of here Garabo Diaz that you know that Gucci,
Speaker 4: are you the greatest co host and friend of all time?
Speaker 3: I would never you are so.
Speaker 1: Jeanie Lauren, it's a Gucci jacket. We're how many years late?
Speaker 4: She tweeted that in twelve, ten years ago, ten years ago.
Speaker 1: Sorry for the delayed response, girl, It's Gucci.
Speaker 4: Okay. In closing, Columbus Short tweeted that night we are
Speaker 4: a family.
Speaker 3: What can I say?
Speaker 4: Hashtag team OPA, hashtag boss chicks, hashtag don't hate at
Speaker 4: Scandal ABC and this most adorable picture of Columbus being
Speaker 4: kissed on either cheek with Olivia and Darby and me
Speaker 4: on his adorable head.
Speaker 1: Yes. Darlene Joly at Joly tweeted, Mellie is a mess.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, Tima wrote, A friend told me she fell
Speaker 4: as during last night's scandal. I told her to repent
Speaker 4: because she's committed a serious cardinal sin at Scandal ABC.
Speaker 4: Bridget Monique, replying to at deb Wilker, said I have
Speaker 4: no idea what's going on? I almost passed out. It's exciting, though,
Speaker 4: WHOA And then at VIRGINI Miss Kila twenty four wrote
Speaker 4: Assmith Thick at miss thick. My husband wants to know
Speaker 4: what did Olivia Poe put on the president for him
Speaker 4: to act like that?
Speaker 1: I think she means like a spell, Like what does
Speaker 1: she put on him? Does she put a spell on
Speaker 1: him for her for him to act this way? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Those are our scandal tweets.
Speaker 4: These are our scandal tweets to the time some of
Speaker 4: our scandal fun facts episode two oh or belt Weigh Unbuckled.
Speaker 4: Next week, we're going to be coming back at you
Speaker 4: with episode two five, Yeah Baby, which is titled All Roads.
Speaker 1: Lead to Fits They show do.
Speaker 3: They sure do?
Speaker 4: And his penis that everyone is I guess yes. Also,
Speaker 4: I want to say next week, I'm going to start
Speaker 4: getting competitive with Youugi, and I'm going to try to
Speaker 4: google some deep dive ass fun facts because I am
Speaker 4: sitting here and you are so impressive to me. The
Speaker 4: little nuggets of its info that you are giving me
Speaker 4: give me life. Yes, Gucci, Hey, Gucci was the jacket.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to find out if Kerrie took that.
Speaker 4: I hope she did. It's a fucking fierce jacket. We
Speaker 4: love you all.
Speaker 3: Happy listening, Go tell your friends.
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