WEBVTT - Inside Job - 12.15

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<v Speaker 1>So, like many of you, I used to suffer from insomnia.

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Show podcast and as we roll along eight one show,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do something. I had to tweet out

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<v Speaker 1>something from my buddy Bow. Make sure it went through

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<v Speaker 1>properly on my Twitter account, because if I made a mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be the end of the world end

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<v Speaker 1>that I did something horrible. I think I messed it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you fix it for me? Do you mind? Glad

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<v Speaker 1>you are with us? All right? The left is gone

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<v Speaker 1>Ape Sugar, they just got nuts and uh, the sore

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<v Speaker 1>loser left. So it's not gonna work with a recount

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<v Speaker 1>that failed miserably. Oh, I gotta tell you. Oh, Julian

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<v Speaker 1>Assange is on the program today. He's been saying no

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians. Will somebody call Lindsey Graham's office tell him

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<v Speaker 1>the idiot to listen to the second hour of the

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<v Speaker 1>program today when Julian Assange is on because he might

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<v Speaker 1>learn something. Did the tweak go out the right way?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you check it out? Is it all good? Is

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<v Speaker 1>everything okay? Did I do something stupid? You haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>checked yet? Great? Very quick? You sipping your coffee in

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<v Speaker 1>there with Irish whiskey, and I know what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>at Christmas party in there. I see what's happening. I

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<v Speaker 1>see the party never ended, and that you know you

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<v Speaker 1>just hung all. You know, that's the best way you

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<v Speaker 1>can cope today. I get what's going on. I see

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway, So he got sore in lub So we

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<v Speaker 1>have Juliana's on sore losers celebrities. Now they go from

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<v Speaker 1>Russian hackey. Now let's just try and influence the election.

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<v Speaker 1>The electors led by Member Martin Sheen, Republican members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Electoral College, this message is for you. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our founding fathers built the Electoral College to safeguard the

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<v Speaker 1>American people from the dangers of a demagogue and to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that the presidency only goes to someone who is

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<v Speaker 1>to an eminent degree, endowed with the requisite qualifications. An

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<v Speaker 1>eminent degree, someone who is highly qualified for the job.

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<v Speaker 1>The Electoral College was created specifically to prevent an unfit

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<v Speaker 1>candidate from becoming president. There are five hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight members of the Electoral College. You and just thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six other conscientious Republican electors can make a difference by

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<v Speaker 1>voting your conscience on December nineteenth, and thereby shaping the

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<v Speaker 1>future of our nation. I'm not asking you to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for Hilly Counton. I'm not asking you to vote for

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<v Speaker 1>hill every Clinton. I'm not asking to vote for Hillary Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know the Constitution gives electors the right to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for any eligible person, any eligible person, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>which party they belong to, but it should certainly be

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<v Speaker 1>someone you consider especially competent, especially competent to serve as

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<v Speaker 1>President of the United States of America. By voting your conscience,

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<v Speaker 1>you and other brave Republican electors can give the House

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<v Speaker 1>of Representatives the option to select a qualified candidate for

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<v Speaker 1>the presidency. I stand with you. I stand with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I stand with you. I stand with you in support

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<v Speaker 1>and solidarity with Conservatives, Independents, and liberals and all citizens

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States. The American people trust that your

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<v Speaker 1>voice speaks for us all, and that you you will

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<v Speaker 1>make yourself heard through the constitutional responsibility granted to you

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<v Speaker 1>by Alexander Hamilton's himself. What is evident is that Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump lacks more than the qualifications should be president. He

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<v Speaker 1>lacks the necessary stability and clearly the respect for the

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<v Speaker 1>constitution of our great nation. You have position, the authority

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<v Speaker 1>and the opportunity to go down in the books as

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<v Speaker 1>an American hero who changed the course of history. And

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<v Speaker 1>you have my respect. You have my respect. You have

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<v Speaker 1>my respect for your patriotism and service to the American people,

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<v Speaker 1>unite for America. All right, that is just the beginning. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>my first observation is, all of a sudden, the Constitution

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<v Speaker 1>actually means something to the radical left, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>when they mentioned Hamilton, I'm thinking, oh, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>that is. They went and saw the play in Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>or somewhere else. So now they think it, actually it's

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<v Speaker 1>really good, cool to to to quote him. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was. I thought this was an outdated racist document

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<v Speaker 1>put together by a bunch of racists. Oh, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, the Constitution matters and let's all work together. Conservatives. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the same people that are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic? Is homophobic?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to work with them? Or is it that

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<v Speaker 1>you just want to manipulate them anyway you can. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, what some of these people, there's way

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<v Speaker 1>too many injections. I don't know what these people out

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<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood do with these doctors. Oh my gosh. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>if the election gets thrown to the House, they can

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<v Speaker 1>only choose among the top three vote getters. So who

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<v Speaker 1>do you think is gonna win? And if Elector changes

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<v Speaker 1>his vote, well he'll have the respect of Martin Sheen

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<v Speaker 1>and uh that's about it, and maybe some of the

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<v Speaker 1>hardcore Hollywood left that don't like them anyway. So you

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<v Speaker 1>got the sore loser, big celebrities, star studded video ps A,

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<v Speaker 1>Debra Messing, Martin Sheen, and a bunch of people. Moby,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know who half for these people are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not asking you to vote for Hillary, say several

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<v Speaker 1>of the stars. By voting your conscience, you and other

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<v Speaker 1>brave Republican electors can give the House of Representatives the

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<v Speaker 1>option to select a qualified candidate for the presidency. The

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<v Speaker 1>video ends with them telling electors they should they would

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<v Speaker 1>earn their respect by performing this service to the American people. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't earn the respect of anybody they would. What

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying here is a coup deta. Basically, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to overthrow the will of the people and they want

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap their arms around the Constitution. Meanwhile, they stood

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<v Speaker 1>idly by the last eight years as we have a

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<v Speaker 1>president that stomped on the Constitution and the rule of

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<v Speaker 1>law ruled by executive FIAT unconstitutional executive orders that had

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<v Speaker 1>no respect for the Constitution. We didn't hear a peep

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<v Speaker 1>out of these people. So this is now the long

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<v Speaker 1>shot bid to block Trump headed to the Electoral College

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday. It's not gonna happen. But the sad part

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<v Speaker 1>of this is, as we've been chronicling here on this program,

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<v Speaker 1>we have electors all around the country being harassed, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>barrage of emails, phone calls, threats, even death threats in

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<v Speaker 1>an attempt to block Trump from being voted in his

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<v Speaker 1>president by the Electoral College on Monday. The bullying is

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<v Speaker 1>so overwhelming that in one case, this woman literally the

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<v Speaker 1>tech devices. You know, they're now having such difficulty they

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<v Speaker 1>can't even walk out of their own house. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Grandmother woke up Wednesday morning emails demanding she not carry

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<v Speaker 1>out her legal duty to vote for the president elect.

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<v Speaker 1>And they just keep coming and coming and coming. They say.

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<v Speaker 1>Her answer is, in her case, she's doing a mass delete.

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<v Speaker 1>So much for serving your country and and going on

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<v Speaker 1>behalf of those people that voted in in your state

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<v Speaker 1>and performing the duty and making the commitment and following

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<v Speaker 1>up on the commitment you made to the people. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got everybody right up to their eyeballs, and

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<v Speaker 1>this including Clinton and Obama supporters, you know, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the Center for American Progress. Their their focus like a

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<v Speaker 1>laser beam on this so called nonprofit John Podesta lead.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're providing Democrats with the centralized resource to oppose

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<v Speaker 1>the president's moves, starting with his cabinet positions. Listen, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try. And I've witnessed this before. I was there

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<v Speaker 1>when New King Ridge was elected in ninety four. I

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<v Speaker 1>followed his speakership closely and by Christmas after the November election,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the ging rich that stole Christmas. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that broke tiny Tim's crutch. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that was going to take food and water out

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<v Speaker 1>of the mouths of grandmothers. All of these arguments and

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<v Speaker 1>now being made. Why do you think I was mocking

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<v Speaker 1>those that said there's gonna be a war on old

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<v Speaker 1>people beginning in January? You know, So you got all

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<v Speaker 1>the electors being harassed. Then you've got people like Keith Oberman.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine when Obama was elected in Oh wait, if I

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted out, you treacherous Russian whore at real Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>the White House and all of us have been after

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<v Speaker 1>you for for this for months and we will get you. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean, is that a threat? You treacherous,

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<v Speaker 1>you treacherous Russian whore at real? Donald Trump, the White

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<v Speaker 1>House and all of us have been after you for

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<v Speaker 1>this for months and we will get you. Well, what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? And that's, by the way, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the more mild things that he says. Michael Moore, Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is gonna get us killed, he said, as he

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<v Speaker 1>posted an essay on his personal Facebook page criticizing the

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<v Speaker 1>president elect. Most of us would agree the job. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he starts talking about, well, he's not getting his

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<v Speaker 1>presidential daily briefing, which, by the way, he says, he

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't want the repetitive briefing. He said, he wants

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<v Speaker 1>all new information to come to him on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>He also has a vice president elect who's doing that

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<v Speaker 1>duty every day as well. It's not like it's not happening,

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<v Speaker 1>he says. He gets it when I need it, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as it's not repetitive. In other words, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same briefing every day, he's saying, I'm letting Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Penns handle it and update me if anything is important.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so anyway, it's um. You know, they don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just angry then you've got On Wednesday, yesterday, the

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<v Speaker 1>President elect added three more high profile c e o s,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Pepsi CEO and Uber CEO and Tesla CBO

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<v Speaker 1>to this big meeting they had with all these other people. Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is gonna label news fake news, real news?

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<v Speaker 1>Who gets to decide certain For example, is it news

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<v Speaker 1>if CNN slips the questions to Hillary before a debate?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it news if CNN is asking the d n

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<v Speaker 1>C for questions for Donald Trump? Is it news if

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Times or Political writes something and then

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<v Speaker 1>they allow the Democrats an opportunity to edit it before

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<v Speaker 1>they send it out publicly. Or is that base sickly

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<v Speaker 1>just to wink it a nod in a corrupt system

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<v Speaker 1>that they've designed with each other. Anyway, when the PEPSI

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<v Speaker 1>CEO you know, got to the board and got to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss some things, she started saying, my employees were all

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<v Speaker 1>crying after Trump won. It sounds like Martha Radits you

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<v Speaker 1>got a California professor in hiding after he told their

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<v Speaker 1>students that Donald Trump's election was an act of terrorism.

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<v Speaker 1>An act of terrorism. Amy Schumer, the comedian yes, relation

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<v Speaker 1>to Chucky Schumer calls on women to march and protest

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<v Speaker 1>against Donald Trump, just like Michael Moore's calling for disruption

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<v Speaker 1>at the inauguration. Anyway, she said January, I'll be there.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, who's coming with me? What's the march for?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing's happened yet, although by the one I expect that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of executive orders will have been repealed. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, vanity are angry white Trump voters wanted submissive

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<v Speaker 1>Russian women. Oh, let's insult Melania Trump again. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>after her. You got forty six more electors signing on

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<v Speaker 1>to a letter demanding the putin Trump intelligence briefing. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that it matters, but even Loretto Lens says there's no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that Russia interfered with the U S election, none whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Never mind that Ed Klein is reporting that the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>director James Comey told Trump the Russians did not influence

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<v Speaker 1>the election. Politico ended up having to fire a reporter

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<v Speaker 1>after an obscene tweet about Donald and Ivanka Trump. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it just you can't believe half this stuff. Two

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<v Speaker 1>thirds of Americans say Russian hacking made no difference, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make a difference, and it did not make a difference,

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<v Speaker 1>not one. Lindsey Graham is lying to the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no evidence whatsoever, none, that the Russians were involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this in any way, shape, matter of form. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons we're having Julian Assan John Julian told

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<v Speaker 1>me in prior interviews the Russians were not involved. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get things a little bit more interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a story in the Daily Mail that talks

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<v Speaker 1>about the ex British Ambassador to you Uzbekistan, an associate

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<v Speaker 1>of Assange, who told the Daily Mail that he flew

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<v Speaker 1>to Washington, d c. To pick up the emails in

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<v Speaker 1>the case of Hillary Clinton and John Podesta. He claims

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<v Speaker 1>he had a clandestine handoff in a wooded area near

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<v Speaker 1>American University with one of the email sources and the

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<v Speaker 1>leakers motivation was discussed at the corruption in the Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field

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<v Speaker 1>against Bernie Sanders, and that the source had legal access

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<v Speaker 1>to the information and that the documents came from inside leaks,

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<v Speaker 1>not from anybody hacking anywhere. Whoopsie Daisy, Well, he can't

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<v Speaker 1>have that. That doesn't go with our narrative. In any

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<v Speaker 1>way shape, matter of form. You know. Well, sorry, but

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<v Speaker 1>where does the truth? Now? Let me tell you this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is true. The Daily Call Up points out

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<v Speaker 1>that the FBI and Justice Department still going after the

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton email server. But let me just say this, if

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<v Speaker 1>we have no new information. The only reason they're elevating

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<v Speaker 1>this story because it's the same information we had before

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<v Speaker 1>the election. We're only doing it for one reason. While

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<v Speaker 1>the recount didn't work, now we're gonna try simultaneous path.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna delegitimize Trump by claiming the Russians hacked and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no evidence to back it up. As the Director

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<v Speaker 1>of National Intelligence has said, as the FBI director has said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not listen to them, Let's listen to the c

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<v Speaker 1>i A political side of the c i A. The

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<v Speaker 1>same people that told us a spontaneous demonstration occurred in Benghazi,

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of spontaneous demonstrators just decided in the

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<v Speaker 1>moment they didn't plan it, that not terrorists, that they

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna pop out of their pockets mortars and RPGs

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<v Speaker 1>and fire it at the compound. Because that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA concluded, and that's the false talking point narrative they advanced,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did it to help Hillary Clinton advance her lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying CIA operatives are all this way, but

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<v Speaker 1>certainly there are some people in Langley that did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who they are, but they never spent

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<v Speaker 1>any time talking to the people on the ground of Benghazi.

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<v Speaker 1>These are fascinating times we're living in. So was it

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<v Speaker 1>a handoff in the woods near American University or was

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<v Speaker 1>it Vladimir Putin? And why would Obama change from saying

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<v Speaker 1>you can't influence our elections to well, we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate and John Podesta and all their big money people

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<v Speaker 1>and now doing it to d legitimized Trump. As I

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed in ninety four with New Gingrich, the destruction of

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<v Speaker 1>New began on day one, the same thing is happening

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<v Speaker 1>with Donald Trump. They want to destroy him and make

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<v Speaker 1>him fail, and that means not fulfill the promises he

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<v Speaker 1>made the campaign trail. Now, I assume that I know

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<v Speaker 1>the media establishments already against them. The Democratic establishment is

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<v Speaker 1>against him, and in short order, my prediction is this

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<v Speaker 1>that Republican establishment they'll turn on them too, because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna like any drain the swamp or term limit legislation,

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<v Speaker 1>or taking away power from them to spend the money

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<v Speaker 1>that they've been spending like drunken sailors with no offense

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<v Speaker 1>to drunken sailors in the last ten years. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>need a security clearance to figure out who benefited from

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<v Speaker 1>malicious Russian cyber activity. The president elect didn't call it

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<v Speaker 1>into question. He called on Russia to hack his opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>He called on Russia to hack Secretary Clinton, So he

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<v Speaker 1>certainly had a pretty good sense of whose side this

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<v Speaker 1>activity was coming down on the less several weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>the election, we're focused on a discussion of emails that

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<v Speaker 1>had been hacked and leaked by the Russians. These were

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<v Speaker 1>emails from the d n C and John Podesta, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>not from the RNC and Steve Bannon. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>president elect who, over the course of the campaign indicated

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<v Speaker 1>that he thought that President Putin was a strong leader.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the president elect who indicated the potential that

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<v Speaker 1>he would withdraw from some of our critically important NATO commitments. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what's also true, and this goes to something that we

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<v Speaker 1>discussed in the in the briefing on Monday, there's ample

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that was known long before the election, and even

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<v Speaker 1>in most cases long before October, about the Trump campaign

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<v Speaker 1>in Russia, everything from the Republican nominee himself calling on

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<v Speaker 1>Russia to hack his opponent. It might be an indication

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<v Speaker 1>that he was obviously aware and concluded, based on whatever

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<v Speaker 1>facts or sources he was he had available to him,

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<v Speaker 1>that Russia was involved and their involvement was having a

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<v Speaker 1>negative impact on his opponent's campaign. That's why he was

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging them to keep doing it. All right, that's Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest now until the top of the hour of the

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<v Speaker 1>proper agandha's for Barack Obama at the White House podium.

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<v Speaker 1>So again today he is saying Trump has inside knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of hacking, in spite of no evidence. He is saying

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump was involved basically in the hacking, that he

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<v Speaker 1>encouraged it. Ernest, my my buddy Rowan Scarborough wrote me and

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, Josh Jarness would not be doing this

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<v Speaker 1>without Obama's seal of approval. And he's right. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have an outgoing president and I told you this a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago. He's not He will not have the

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<v Speaker 1>class of a George W. Bush. He will not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to help himself. His rigid, radical ideology will drive

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<v Speaker 1>him to be a constant critic of the incoming President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I did the whole They're not your friends monologue.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not, and neither is Ryan, and neither is McConnell.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just did not gonna be your friends. I

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<v Speaker 1>only like you while you're popular. As soon as you're

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<v Speaker 1>a little less popular, then they're gonna dump you overboard

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<v Speaker 1>as quickly as possible and try and destroy you. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's happening now. This is where it gets

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<v Speaker 1>even more interesting. The former chairman of the House Homeland

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<v Speaker 1>Security Committee, our old friend Peter King of Long Island,

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<v Speaker 1>is accusing the CIA of quote conducting a disinformation campaign

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<v Speaker 1>against Trump, slamming the intelligence community Wednesday for forcing the

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<v Speaker 1>cancelation of the planned House Intelligence Committee briefing on alleged

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<v Speaker 1>Russian interference in the U. S. Election. I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they canceled it. And I think it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>obvious because they know that every Congressman is gonna say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew all of this, there's nothing new here. Why

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<v Speaker 1>did you change the conclusion on the same information that

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<v Speaker 1>you had before the election. So they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be embarrassed and exposed as having a political arm within

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA, within our intelligence community. I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly clear here. I love our intelligence community. We need intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of brave people work for the CIA, A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are putting their lives on the line

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<v Speaker 1>for their country. But there is a political arm within

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA that was on display during Benghazi. As I've

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<v Speaker 1>been telling you. He said all we've heard from the

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence community over the last several months, as they could

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<v Speaker 1>not say there was any attempt to undermine Hillary and

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<v Speaker 1>helped Trump. King told Fox News anyway, says it violates

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<v Speaker 1>every protocol. It's almost as if people in the intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>community are carrying out a disinformation campaign against the president

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<v Speaker 1>elect of the United States. It's absolutely disgraceful. And if

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<v Speaker 1>they're not doing it, then it must be someone in

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<v Speaker 1>the House or the Senate who's leaking false information and

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<v Speaker 1>there should be a full investigation into this. This is

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<v Speaker 1>all true, and now we know that James called me.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI director said Russia had no him put into this,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why we're going to interview Julian Assang at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the hour. Very smart man Julian Assang

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<v Speaker 1>whether you like him, just like him. I know he's

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<v Speaker 1>contra virsial. I've said a number of times he's done

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<v Speaker 1>America a favor. He's pointed out, we have no cyber

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<v Speaker 1>security as a government as a people number one and

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<v Speaker 1>number two, how corrupt your government is deep to its

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental core anyway, So apparently, also the Washington Examiner points

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<v Speaker 1>out this whole, this whole stonewalling of Congress. You know

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<v Speaker 1>why is this happening because now the House Intelligence Agency,

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<v Speaker 1>their committee chairman rebuking the intelligence agencies today and yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>for their refusal to grant a briefing request on cyber

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<v Speaker 1>attacks during the U s presidential election. Well, why would

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<v Speaker 1>that be One, because they might be laughed out of

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<v Speaker 1>the room. Two, they might be exposed as politicizing intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>to help Hillary and the Democrats undermine Donald Trump. The

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<v Speaker 1>incoming president, Devin Nuvit Nunez of California, said it's unacceptable

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<v Speaker 1>for the intelligence community directors that they would not fulfill

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<v Speaker 1>the House Intelligence Committees request to be brief tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 1>the cyber attacks that occurred during the presidential campaign. The

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<v Speaker 1>legislative branches constitutionally vested with oversight responsibility of executive branch agencies,

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<v Speaker 1>which are obligated to comply with our requests. The Committee

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<v Speaker 1>is vigorously looking into reports of cyber attacks during the

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<v Speaker 1>election campaign, and in particular, we want to clarify press

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<v Speaker 1>reports that the CIA has a new assessment that it

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<v Speaker 1>is not shared with us. That was it the White

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<v Speaker 1>House that altered the assessment of the information that we

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<v Speaker 1>all had before the election, that the FBI contradicts, that

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<v Speaker 1>the Director of National Intelligence contradicts. The Committee is deeply

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<v Speaker 1>concerned that the intransience in sharing intelligence with Congress can

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<v Speaker 1>now enable the manipulation of intelligence from political purposes. That's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what's happening, exactly, it's so transparent. We've got some

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<v Speaker 1>other news here. The reversal of this horrible Iranian deal

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<v Speaker 1>apparently has already begun. The Obama administration's disastrous deal is

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<v Speaker 1>being relegated now, just like Obamacare to the ash heap

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<v Speaker 1>of history. It's like executive amnesty will be relegated. Similarly,

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<v Speaker 1>Congress passed new sanctions on Iran last month by a

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<v Speaker 1>veto proof margin. Today their implementation begins. All over the

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<v Speaker 1>objections of our appeaser in chief Barack Obama. Iran is

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<v Speaker 1>making threats and they're doing some saber rattling and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel the nuclear that if they cancel the nuclear deal,

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<v Speaker 1>if new they will they will cancel it. If new

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<v Speaker 1>sanctions are past they make good on that threat. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that's a guarantee that will. You know that what I

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<v Speaker 1>predicted what happen is gonna happen. They'll get nuclear weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>So stupid. They already have the money, the ransom money. Unbelievable. Uh. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to our phones here. Some of you have

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<v Speaker 1>been very patient. Tom and California. Tom, Hi, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you were? Glad you all? Hey, Sean, real real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Ernest is trying to trying to tie Trump to

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian hacking by a flippant remark that he made

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<v Speaker 1>during the debate about Russia, given the Hillary's emails to

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<v Speaker 1>the press, if we use that logic. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks before the before the election, Obama was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>some blogger about voting and he he made an off

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<v Speaker 1>the off hand and remark about, uh, illegal voting. It

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<v Speaker 1>was yes, but it was a no, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was kind of it was kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>flippant remark. But but if if, if we want to

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<v Speaker 1>tie Trump to the Russians, then we have to try

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<v Speaker 1>tie Obama to illegal immigrants voting. Well, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good point. And we know illegal immigrants voter. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how many, but this has been chronicled just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go talk to people like John fund and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just I live in California. I know it. Course

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<v Speaker 1>it's happened. I don't know how many, but if one happens,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one too many. Anyway, let's get to our phones,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh and Kansas. What's up, Josh, John, thanks for taking

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<v Speaker 1>the call. I love your show, love what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be real brief and quick. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the hypocrisy, uh, you know that we live

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<v Speaker 1>in today. Uh you know, the Democrats are so quick

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about how you know, the Russian supposedly influenced

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the election, and that's the only reason Trump

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<v Speaker 1>got uh, you know, nominated, and that's the only reason one. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're so quick to forget that they cheated Bernie out

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<v Speaker 1>of a you know, a fair process to be it's

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic nominee. They're so quick to erase all the

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<v Speaker 1>memories of you know, people having the information that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they cheated Bernie out of a fair process is crazy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great that you say that, because this whole Daily

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<v Speaker 1>Mail article about Julian Ossan's friend and associate and the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that works at Wiki Leagues, the former British ambassador

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<v Speaker 1>to Uzbekistan saying that the Wiki League's emails came from

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<v Speaker 1>the Clinton campaign from a disgusted, de amocratic whistleblower for

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<v Speaker 1>the very specific reason that you're talking about, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is that you know that that all this information about

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<v Speaker 1>Podesta's emails were handed off at a Woodedier area near

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<v Speaker 1>American University, and that those the motivation of the leaker

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<v Speaker 1>was discussed at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and

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<v Speaker 1>tilting the primary election playing field against Bernie, and the

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<v Speaker 1>source apparently had legal access to the information that the

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<v Speaker 1>documents came from inside. Yeah, you're right. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>did they care about the media clothing with Hillary Josh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And it's just so funny because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just accusations. It's accusations after accusations. You have the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI directors saying as nonsense and they don't care it's

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<v Speaker 1>like they're doing everything they can to be uh, to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the point of, Okay, you know what, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna become our president. Let's give him the respect that he,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, deserves. But it's just they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And I don't remember when Obama. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so frustrated when Obama got elected. You know, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a conservative state, but even even then, so like when

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<v Speaker 1>he got when he got elected, I don't remember it

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<v Speaker 1>being like this. I don't remember when people were crying

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<v Speaker 1>and going in Hillary and saying, oh my goodness, where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're we're doomed. I don't remember any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's so sticks stickening. You know. My friends,

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>people I talked to, they just they cannot come to

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<v Speaker 1>their senses. They're just you know, they want to cry

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<v Speaker 1>about it and make excuses, and it's just it's stickening.

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<v Speaker 1>What did and I appreciate the call. What did wiki

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<v Speaker 1>leaks do? Now, remember we're gonna have Juliana San John

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the next hour. What did wiki

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<v Speaker 1>leaks do? Okay, they exposed how corrupt America's media is,

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<v Speaker 1>every big network, every major newspaper, How they colluded with

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<v Speaker 1>the Clinton campaign. It exposed how they cheated to help

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie to beat Bernie Sanders. It exposed racism within the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic National Committee, and sexism within the Democratic National Committee,

0:27:55.680 --> 0:28:00.120
<v Speaker 1>anti Semitism within the Democratic National Committee. They exposed all

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>of that. It exposed just how deeply corrupt and what

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>a liar Hillary Clinton is, which we can argue we

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>already knew that, but it confirmed it was at a

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>deeper level. Now, I would argue with you that if

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<v Speaker 1>this for about and I'll ask Julian in the next hour,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was about Donald Trump, would have done the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, because I suspect the answers yes. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also will tell you this that you know, in many

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>ways he's he's the modern day Woodward and Bernstein. There's

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<v Speaker 1>they've not been wicked, leaks, has not been wrong in

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, a perfect track record. And Julian Assan says, now,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get it from them, We didn't get it

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<v Speaker 1>from any state, we didn't get it from Russia. So

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<v Speaker 1>what evidence does you know, Lindsey Graham, the idiot, you know,

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>what is he sighting except that he hates Trump like

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>McCain hates Trump like case at cates Trump like the

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Bush just hate Trump. I mean, I'll just be honest here.

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<v Speaker 1>The only people doing this are people that have always

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>hated Trump and wanted to undermine and sabotage them. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Wiki leaks did what Woodward and Bernstein did. They exposed

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<v Speaker 1>a level of corruption and government. That's what they did.

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I've been saying, where is where are the ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC,

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Where where are the Woodward and Bernstein's of this age?

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Martha Rabbit's crying on TV for crying out loud, all

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood stars they saw Hamilton's. Now they're quoting Hamilton's

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and they saw the play, and now they're quoting him

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and the Constitution that Obama stomped on all these years

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>as a means of telling electors to not go for Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you don't think we need extreme vetting.

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<v Speaker 1>A thousand Muslims in London streets chanting Allaho ak bar,

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<v Speaker 1>demanding an Islamic caliphate really pretty interesting when Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>talks about extreme ben you want to invite those people here.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you gotta give the t s a credit.

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<v Speaker 1>They confiscated a big Teddy bear. Anyway, given the detailed

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>backstory about he's homeless and hungry and now in order

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to remind us that everything is bad. But agents and

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles confiscated a giant Teddy bear and posted a

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<v Speaker 1>photo of the poor guy on Instagram, and they gave

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<v Speaker 1>him a depressing backstory. I don't know what's happening. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, fake news. You hear about this New York

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>City college student who claimed to be a victim of

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<v Speaker 1>a hate crime because she's a Muslim. Everybody raced out

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>to see that was Trump supporters. Trump supporters. She made

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Whoopsie Daisy. Another guy faked KKK crime and abduction,

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, looking to blame President elect Trump supporters for

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<v Speaker 1>a hate crime. Well, he confessed to the police. He

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>fabricated his incident as well. Whoopsie Daisy. Fake news all

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>over the place. Uh anyway, So yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to tell you. We're gonna have Julian Assange at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the next NIP. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>information just put aside, maybe preconceived notion, any prejudice you

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<v Speaker 1>might have. I want you to listen to Julian Assange.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, he hacked into the d d NASA at

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<v Speaker 1>the age of sixteen. The guy is brilliant. The guy,

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<v Speaker 1>for not being an American citizen, knows more about American

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<v Speaker 1>politics than journalists. Listen to what he has to say

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and then decide do you believe Obama, Josh Ernest, Hillary Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>and the left and the media. What do you believe

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<v Speaker 1>Julian Assans. That's your assignment for the next hour as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let Julian Osans talk here on this program on like

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>other shows where they try and beat him up and

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>not let him get a word in edgewise. Mediaphi where

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<v Speaker 1>for the five and about U nine major publications in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States are biased in favor of higuant. John Kerry,

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<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of State, and some other US officials and

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the Hillary Clinton campaign kept putting forth propaganda to say

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<v Speaker 1>that our publications revealing various forms of corruption and scandal

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<v Speaker 1>within Hillary Clinton's network was in fact interference in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States electoral process. But this has not interference in

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<v Speaker 1>the electoral process. This is the definition of the electoral

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<v Speaker 1>process is for media organizations and in fact everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>publish the truth and their opinion about what is occurring.

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<v Speaker 1>There cannot be a free and informed election unless people

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<v Speaker 1>are free to inform. You accuse the present America of

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<v Speaker 1>supporting Hillary Clinton. You said, the American liberal press has

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<v Speaker 1>falling all over themselves to defend Hillary Clinton. They're erecting

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<v Speaker 1>a demon that is going to put nooses around everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>next as soon as she wins the election, which she

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<v Speaker 1>is almost certainly going to do. What did you mean

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<v Speaker 1>by that? What I meant is this kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats always speaking about how terrible McCarthyism was, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were and it was in many ways, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least the USSR actually existed then, and there were actually

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<v Speaker 1>Russian influenced campaigns in the United States which were serious.

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<v Speaker 1>What we're seeing now is Hillary Clinton and her campaign

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<v Speaker 1>trying to whip up and neo McCarthys hysteria where she

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<v Speaker 1>claims or she claims that effectively Donald Trump is an

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<v Speaker 1>agent to the Russians, that Wikilis is an agent to

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians, and where her campaign has also implied that

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<v Speaker 1>Jill Stein, the Greens leader, is a Russian agent, and

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<v Speaker 1>that they intercept another US publication effectively Russian agents. So

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<v Speaker 1>what we have yet we have look objectively, we have

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<v Speaker 1>the ruling party's preferred successor running around calling the opposition leader,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, multiple opposition leaders and the critical press foreign agents.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, isn't it isn't that the very probable

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<v Speaker 1>terrible climate to permit, and what kind of press climate

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<v Speaker 1>is going to exist afterwards, especially if Clinton is elected.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be perceived to be a validation of that hysteria,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the press afterwards will be cracked down upon,

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<v Speaker 1>and online publishers and people on social media. It will

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<v Speaker 1>lead to a very harsh climate where the First Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>will be very significantly eroded. The Clinton campaign has said

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<v Speaker 1>that Russia is behind all of this. He says the

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<v Speaker 1>Russia has manipulated the campaign and is the source for

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<v Speaker 1>wiki leaks and it's emails. The Clinton camp has been

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<v Speaker 1>able to project that kind of neo McCarthy's hysteria that

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<v Speaker 1>Russia is responsible for everything hithery. Clinton stated multiple times

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<v Speaker 1>falsely the seventeen uous intelligence agencies had assess that Russia

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<v Speaker 1>was the source of our publications. Okay, uh, that's false.

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<v Speaker 1>We can say that the Russian government is not the source. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we have been publishing for ten years. In that ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>we've published ten million documents, several thousand individual publications, several

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<v Speaker 1>thousand different sources, and we have never got it wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. That was Julian Assange and numerous interviews that

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<v Speaker 1>he had, of course with Wiki Leaks, and Julian joins

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<v Speaker 1>us now our newsmaker line, Julian, welcome back to the program.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being with us. I know you follow

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<v Speaker 1>the news closely. I know you see the narrative. Now

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<v Speaker 1>there is a big bruhahab in the United States. The

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<v Speaker 1>same media, by the way, that Wiki Leaks exposed as

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>colluding with Hillary Clinton's campaign with near hysteria getting up

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to the president and John Podesta with Hillary's campaign claiming

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over again that it's clear the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA says so even though there's no new evidence whatsoever

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>that we didn't have prior to the election, and that

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI contradicts, and James Clapper, the National Director of Intelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>contradicts that in fact, the Russians tried to influence and

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<v Speaker 1>the elections and and this hacked information came from them,

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<v Speaker 1>And you're saying that is outrightly false, that's a falsehood.

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<v Speaker 1>Our source is not the Russian government. So in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>let me be clear, Russia did not give you the

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<v Speaker 1>podested documents or anything from the d n C. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you confirm whether or not you have information involving hacked

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<v Speaker 1>info from the r n C. H we received about

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<v Speaker 1>three pages information to do with the r n C

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<v Speaker 1>and Trump, but it was already public somewhere else, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So in other words, there was nothing significant. There was

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<v Speaker 1>nothing comparable to what happened. So what Ranks previous said

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<v Speaker 1>on NBC to Chuck Todd this weekend was true and

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<v Speaker 1>NBC had it wrong. Well, as far as as far

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<v Speaker 1>as you're aware of now, the c i A supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>says the Russians definitely tried to im once the U S. Election.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your thoughts on that? I think it's very interesting. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The key quote for US is from James Clapper on

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeenth of November. James Clapper is the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the d NI either he's the Director of National Intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>who oversees all seventeen U S intelligence agencies. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>so his statement is as far as the wiki leaks connection,

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<v Speaker 1>this is made to the House Intelligence Committee. As far

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>as the WikiLeaks connection, the evidence is not strong and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have a good insight into the sequencing of

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the releases or when the data may have been provided.

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>We don't have good insight into that. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me for the sake of our audience, Julian, let

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 1>me play the exact quote. This is James Clapper, the

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<v Speaker 1>Director of National Intelligence, saying exactly what you did that

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<v Speaker 1>in fact the Russian government well to what he exactly

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>said that. In fact, he was very very clear in

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>saying that Wiki leaks connection with Russian hacking is not strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the wiki leaks UH connection? The evidence there is

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<v Speaker 1>not as strong, and we don't have good insight into

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the sequencing of the releases or when when the data

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 1>may have been provided. We don't. We don't have as

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 1>good insight into that. So that confirms exactly what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you answer whether or not there there's a report

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<v Speaker 1>out today, and there was a report out earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>week that in fact, they can trace back some leaks

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<v Speaker 1>to the Department of Homeland Security as it relates to

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the state of Georgia. Do you know anything about those

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<v Speaker 1>I looked when the uh, Look, let's pull back a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a deliberate attempt this week to consulate a whole

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.959
<v Speaker 1>lot of different issues together. Uh, it seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>uh as a desire, an extremely dangerous and foolish desire

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<v Speaker 1>to flip members of the U S. Electoral College around

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>into getting up John Kasik or Hillary Clinton on the

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<v Speaker 1>It's foolish because it won't happen. It's dangerous because the

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>argument that it should happen can be used in four

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<v Speaker 1>years time or eight years time for a sitting government

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't want to hand over power, and that's a

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 1>very dangerous thing. There there's Clinton aligned packs putting out

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<v Speaker 1>ads with lots of celebrities trying to push these electors

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 1>to do it. So how are they rhetorically going about it? Well,

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>there's our publications. It did make a significant influence during election.

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Lots and lots of Americans took them up, read them,

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>analyzed them, forwarded them to each other. I was the

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>most discussed topic according to Facebook throughout October. Okay, but

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>then we have U S Intelligence saying they don't know

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>how we got our staff or when we got it,

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and us saying we didn't get it from a state.

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Then there's hacking of various systems that have occurred. Okay,

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 1>presumably to get intelligence. The Israelis do it, the Russians

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 1>do it, the Chinese do it, The French do it

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>every year and every election cycle to understand what policies are.

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's no surprise at all that there's record of

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Russians or others hacking a lot of these systems. Let

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 1>let me put the questions collection. Let me put us

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<v Speaker 1>a different way. The State of Georgia in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of State there now confirms ten separate cyber

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>attacks on its network that we're all traced back to

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the US Department of Homeland Security addresses. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about that. I don't know about this specific case,

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>but the state are hacking I do know about because

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I followed it when it first came up in the

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>original FBI report. Um, Look, these are about election. Voter

0:40:55.280 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>registration systems, are not election not vote counting systems. Uh.

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 1>It seems to be just basic identity theft. If you

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>if you read what DHS said at the time, it

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>said that it looked like these were going to be

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>sold online in black markets. Really, is for the FSB

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:15.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be selling voter registration records online in black markets? No,

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>of course, it's almost overwhelmingly likely that it is just

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>identity left. Let me ask the DHS attacks are concerned.

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 1>That could be a number of things. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>the DHS just testing security and then people using the

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>logs of those tests, or rather misusing them to try

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>and claim that there's been attempt at hacks of these systems.

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<v Speaker 1>While I certainly respect and by the way, it is

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>important to point out some of your history. When you

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>were sixteen years old, you did hack into NASA, you

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 1>did hack into the Department of Defense, and I believe

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>one other agency. Is that true. There's a number of

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>books saying that, So there's a pretty good chance that

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:56.919
<v Speaker 1>might be true. Never been charged for that. I don't

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>like to keep it that way. Yeah, that's true. Maybe

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the statute of limitations moved on. I said, I have

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>said that there are two things that America needs to

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>take from you in some of these other high private

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>profile cases. And one is there's proof positive that we

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>don't really have cybersecurity at a level we need for

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>for a country that is so actively involved in intelligence

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and and influencing world events, etcetera. So you've done us

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a favor because now we could fix the problem if

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>we so desired, but in all the years President Obama

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>has been in office, he did nothing to fix it.

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 1>The second thing that I think you you did for America,

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>which I think is very important, is you exposed how

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>corrupt our government is. And I'll get to that in

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a second. Without revealing your sources, would it be fair

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<v Speaker 1>to say that the information as it relates to Wiki

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:44.360
<v Speaker 1>leaks and John Podesta's emails came from within the United States?

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>To you, we have said it has not come from

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<v Speaker 1>a state party. We know where it came from originally,

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>of course it's John Podesta, It's from the d n C, etcetera.

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.840
<v Speaker 1>There's been no claim that has been held up and

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>not even maintained anymore, that any of the information has

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>been modified or is fake. So you can't confirm or

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>deny if this information came from within the United States.

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>We're unhappy that we felt that we needed to even

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>say that it wasn't a state party. Normally we say

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 1>nothing at all, but we have a conflict of interest.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>How we have an excellent reputation and strong interest in

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 1>protecting our sources, and so we're never saying anything about them,

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>never ruling anyone in or anyone out sometimes do it.

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>We don't like to do it. We have another interest,

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 1>which is maximizing the impact of our publications. Let me

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 1>ask you this that could you here here? In order

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to order to prevent a distraction attack against our publications,

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>we've had to come out and say, no, it's not

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>a state party. Stop trying to distract in that way.

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Pay attention to the content of the publication. So in

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 1>other words, when you say state party, wasn't another state

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>like Russia or or some other countries. Correct. Let me

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>ask you about were key leaks? And I think this

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 1>could shake up the political world? Is it true? An

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.879
<v Speaker 1>email sent in July of this year that you have

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<v Speaker 1>that describes how funds could be diverted from the Clinton

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>campaign to the super packs of Jeb Bush, Carl Fierina,

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and John Kasick specifically document number one oh seven eight

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.399
<v Speaker 1>six four five and it reads j B C F

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<v Speaker 1>J K packs will be noticed noticeably silent for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the campaign. Each will receive a significant allowance

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>from advertising budget HRC. Hillary is in the loop and

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 1>talk to all three personally, eyes only. Is that a

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.800
<v Speaker 1>legitimate I don't have that in front of me. We

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>have we have published nearly hundred thousand documents, So I

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>mean I have seen references to things like that. I

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>don't recall seeing an eyes only phrase. Do you recall

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 1>any quid pro quo as it relates to Senator Lindsey Graham,

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 1>that that he would get some assistance merely in other words,

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 1>when he ran for re election for the Senate? I

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>believe in I don't know de Graham is in the

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Podesta emails. Yes, all right, well that's something that maybe

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>hopefully over time we'd be able to follow up on.

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I have a I have so many more questions for you.

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me ask you a couple of these. Um,

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>do you think the president knows as you do that

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the source was not Russia for Wiki leaks? And I

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's important to point out that for over ten years,

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Wiki Leaks has never been proven wrong, not one single time.

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe the president is purposefully advancing this for

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>political purposes to delegitimize Donald Trump? Do you it's clear?

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>It's clear too look at the statements by James Clapper.

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>He also made an earlier statement that, Um, the U. S.

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Intelligence is not aware of when we received material or

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>how so it's pretty clear that, um, he must be

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>getting those briefings as well if the public is getting them. Um,

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>so there's a delivered attempt to conflate, but they see

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>some of the public is concerned. The only interesting that happened.

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Thing that happened is that Wiki Leaks published a number

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 1>number of different types of nation the d n C publications,

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>John John Podestas and a variety of Clinton emails obtained

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the Freedom Information Act. So that's what's interesting to the public.

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 1>By the way, it would not be the first time

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the CIA was politicized. You might remember during the Benghazi case.

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I actually spend time on this program talking to the

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>people that were there on the ground while the attack

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was going on. The American people were told a very

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>different story that this was quote, a spontaneous demonstration related

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to a YouTube video. And I just don't know many

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 1>demonstrations that are spontaneous where they happen to have in

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 1>their back pocket RPGs and mortar rounds which were fired

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>at the consulate and the compounds. That's false, uh, And

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 1>our publications show that Hillary Clinton knew it's false. There's

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a letter from Hillary Clinton to Chelsea Clinton. Chelsea Quinton's

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>uses an assumed name, Diane Reynolds, and that's the day

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>or the day to day or the day after the attack,

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>where she says, in fact, it was well, my point

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>was group the c i A advanced that false story

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>that it was a spontaneous demonstration when we now know

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 1>it was a terrorist attack, and they advanced it through

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the CIA and language Langley. There were some people there

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 1>that were playing politics at the CIA, advancing a false

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.240
<v Speaker 1>narrative story that we know as false. All right, Julian,

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:19.839
<v Speaker 1>if he can just stay right there, we'll come back.

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 1>We'll continue more with Julian Assange and his insight as

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the founder and director of Wiki Leagues and more as

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the Sean Hannity Show continues. As we continue our interview

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>with Wiki League's founder and director Julian Osange, let me

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 1>ask you this. You never thought Donald Trump would win?

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Why I didn't think he would win. I thought he

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>had a much higher chance than what the polling was giving.

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I'd gone through Brixit, Uh, and it's very similar case

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>in Brixit where you had a new nationalist feeling in

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the country and disenfranchisement with existing elites. Uh. But there

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 1>was polling number of professional pulses coming up to Brexit, AH,

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and they got it wrong because people misled the pulses

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 1>in two different ways AH. And to be frank to pulse,

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 1>some of the pulsars also wanted to be misled. But

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 1>so those people who are going to vote against Brexit

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 1>um um, so that they were going to vote for it,

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and those people who are going to vote for it

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:29.800
<v Speaker 1>said they're going to vote against it. The same thing happened,

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it seems in the case of Donald Trump selection. So

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:38.800
<v Speaker 1>why is that there was intense pressure in the United

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 1>States from the mainstream media to make people feel ashamed

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of wanting to vote for Donald Trump and to make

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 1>them feel like that they had to vote for Hillary

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Clinton even though they didn't want to. Actually, I think

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it's this second case of of Hillary Clinton supporters falsely

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>tell polsters that they would vote for her and they're

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>not doing it. Um that made the difference in the election.

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 1>So I had assumed that these pollsters had seen the

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Brexit situation and they'd taken that into account. They said

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that they had taken it into account, and that was

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 1>not true. Now, very interestingly, I think that if the

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>polling had been accurate, donald Trump wouldn't have won. Interesting,

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Now why do I say that, Well, Donald Hillary Clinton's

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>campaign outspent Donald Trump but almost two to one. If

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the polling had been accurate, AH bankers and other cashed

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 1>up interests would have given Hillary Clinton another five billion

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>dollars and she would have blasted that and advertising everywhere.

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 1>But they didn't give her all that money because they

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't perceive that there was a need to, because she

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:00.800
<v Speaker 1>seemed that she was four or five points ahead in

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the polls. So they got fooled by the polling and

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>therefore didn't spend the amount of money that they needed

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:12.320
<v Speaker 1>to on the campaign and didn't recruit other resources to

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:17.880
<v Speaker 1>recruit even more mainst media resources to beat up Trump

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and to defend Quentin because they didn't think there was

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a need to. Let me ask you, remember when the

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.800
<v Speaker 1>New York Times was going full throttle with the story

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>about Donald Trump's taxes, which was stolen information at the time,

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and and everybody in the media thought it was fair

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and it was legitimate coverage, and they how they got

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:38.320
<v Speaker 1>ahold of it was not an issue in any way.

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You view yourself and you view wiki leaks the same way.

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 1>You view yourself as a journalist. Information came to you

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and you disseminated that information because you felt the public

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:53.320
<v Speaker 1>had a right to know. What is the difference between

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 1>what you and wiki leaks have done versus what the

0:50:56.640 --> 0:51:00.720
<v Speaker 1>New York Times and CNN does when they published Donald

0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Trump's taxes that were that were received illegally or received

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.919
<v Speaker 1>There is a difference. Our stuff has more impact. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay, I kicked touche. I can't disagree with that

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 1>very good point. But but in other words, you do

0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 1>view wiki leaks. One of the things in the in

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:25.359
<v Speaker 1>the conversations that I've had with you, both on radio

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and TV, is how important it is for you to

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>maintain a perfect record and not get anything wrong in

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 1>terms of the information that you acquire that you release.

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 1>You wanted to be right, and so far you've been

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 1>right every time. So I p abway have been right

0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 1>for since we were founded a decade ago. Yeah, it's

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a It's a very valuable thing to have a perfect record.

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>It's also a curse because we have to work so

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.879
<v Speaker 1>hard to keep it understood. And my big fear ten

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:56.920
<v Speaker 1>years ago, which you and I discussed the last time

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you were on my radio show when I wanted to

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.760
<v Speaker 1>arrest did, I said, because I felt you would release

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 1>potential information that would result in methods and people potentially dying.

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Because there is so much in terms of covert operations,

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 1>people working undercover, you purposely choose not to publish that information. Correct. Well, yes,

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>if we're talking about Afghanistan, there were fifteen thousand documents

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that we didn't didn't release because you thought people's lives

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:30.719
<v Speaker 1>would be in jeopardy immediately, No, but we thought that

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 1>there was a reasonable possibility so that we wanted to

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 1>study the issue further. So we we didn't think that

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:43.399
<v Speaker 1>people's lives would definitely be in jeopardy, but we weren't sure,

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>so we wanted to hold things back to we to

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 1>we understood it. Yeah, all right, I have a lot

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:50.759
<v Speaker 1>more questions for you. Let me let me ask you

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a few of these, because I think this is very

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:57.720
<v Speaker 1>important for our audience to fully completely grasp and to understand. Um,

0:52:57.760 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 1>so you only had three pages on on there, r

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 1>n c Um. Do you think the media in the

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:09.319
<v Speaker 1>US is trying to scapegoat you? And what message do

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:15.799
<v Speaker 1>you have for them? Um? Don't they're increasingly not very important.

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think Trump has even made this statement.

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:24.439
<v Speaker 1>And there are a paper tiger in this election, and

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the new publications on the internet one can get pretty

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>directly to the people. So there's old press are less important,

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and the degree of bias they've been showing during the

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>electoral process. And it has come from both sides, but

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I suppose particularly the liberal press, readers see that they

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:50.359
<v Speaker 1>feel it, they don't like being lectured to, are told

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.359
<v Speaker 1>what to do, and they rebel against it. I think

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>this is the other reason why Trump won that no

0:53:55.800 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 1>one's speaking about, which is that kind of hectoring ah

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>from the liberal media in the United States, and the

0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 1>type of advertising that Hillary Clinton was putting out really

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 1>turns people off because it seemed like those people who

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 1>already had a lot of social power. Uh, we're telling

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you what to do, and so you wanted to do

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the opposite. How easy from your assessment as somebody that

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 1>has been involved that this most of his adult life. Now,

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 1>how how secure? If you're get to give a grade

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<v Speaker 1>of one to ten, ten being the most secure? How

0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>secure is America's agencies, American government, America's secrets, Everything is

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:42.799
<v Speaker 1>almost completely insecure out the computer systems have become so

0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>complex that it is not possible to understand all the parts, uh,

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 1>let alone secure them. Is it is just impossible. So

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and that goes for individuals as well as a government.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes goes for all of us. Yeah. Yeah, Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think there could be a separate operation within the

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Russian government, separate and apart from the information you have

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:07.760
<v Speaker 1>at wiki leaks? Okay, So this is interesting that there's

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>a there's a conflation between the three things. Wiki leaks

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>publications and I told you what James Clapper says about them,

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:20.440
<v Speaker 1>but they don't. I can't see how the Russians transferred

0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:23.720
<v Speaker 1>them to US et cetera. That had the impact everyone's

0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:28.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about alleged hacks of the US voting system. You

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>just mentioned the DHS for example, and other publications appearing

0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 1>on the internet that basically almost no one has heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have any impact in the election. In fact,

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>might have had the opposite impact. In this last category,

0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:47.400
<v Speaker 1>there's a site called DC leaks and another and the

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 1>word press site run by a guy calling himself goose

0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Off two. Um, now, who were behind these We don't know?

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you know these people? Uh? And there was a

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:01.240
<v Speaker 1>couple of no and there was a couple of publications

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:06.640
<v Speaker 1>also by The Hill and by Gorka Uh and the

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Smoking Gun that claimed that their documents came from I

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:16.439
<v Speaker 1>think from Goucifer maybe this DC Weeks. So those look

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 1>very much like that they're the Russians, but in some

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 1>ways they seem very amateur and that they look too

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:28.719
<v Speaker 1>much like it. And so this is what far from

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 1>me to quote John Bolton, I think it should be

0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:34.359
<v Speaker 1>executed or something, but he has said correctly that if

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 1>something looks so much like that is meant to be

0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the Russians, then maybe someone wants you just think that's

0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that's such a good point. Let me ask you about

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the Chris Craig Murray, former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan, an

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:50.400
<v Speaker 1>associate of yours. He was quoted in The Daily Mail

0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that he flew to Washington, d C. For the emails.

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>He claimed he had a clandestine handoff in a wooded

0:56:56.600 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>area near American University with one of the email sources

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and the leakers. Motivation was quote discussed at the corruption

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:05.800
<v Speaker 1>of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:08.799
<v Speaker 1>election playing field against Bernie Sanders, and he said the

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:12.279
<v Speaker 1>source had legal access to the information. The documents came

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 1>from inside leaks, not from hacks. Yeah, we don't comment

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 1>on sourcing. Craig Murray is a former UK ambastor. He

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:24.960
<v Speaker 1>is a friend of mine. Uh, he is not authorized

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<v Speaker 1>to speak on behalf of you. Are you angry that

0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:30.960
<v Speaker 1>he gave this interview? I just don't want to go

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>anywhere in either. Okay, that's fine, Um, But can I

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:36.920
<v Speaker 1>ask the question in a roundabout way without being annoying

0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to be annoying here. Is it much

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<v Speaker 1>more likely that would have happened versus the Russians? I

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be drawn on this. Okay, that's too.

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>We have to protect our sources understuff. I can't be

0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 1>drawn on it. Okay, let me When were you first

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.960
<v Speaker 1>alerted that someone had hacked these documents of Podesta? That's

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the interesting question. Uh, trying to cast my mind back.

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 1>They took a while to prepare, and so did the

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:06.760
<v Speaker 1>d n C leagues. So to other publications, it's quite

0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work verifying them, formatting them, indexing them,

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:14.360
<v Speaker 1>understanding them. Um. But for the same reason of making

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it hard for authorities to track when our sources have

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 1>communicated with us. We don't like to mention precisely when

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 1>we've obtained things. So there really is no evidence at all,

0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and everyone's saying that the Russians has done this. Let

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:29.000
<v Speaker 1>me ask you whether you mean you know in the

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Manning case, uh, was that a Russian attempt at undermining

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the Bush presidency with you know, war logs, giving Liberals

0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:40.680
<v Speaker 1>what they needed to erode in terms of the GOP

0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and support and paid maybe the way for Barack Obama

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to win an election. Well, we were such sticklers for

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 1>this kind of thing. We've never said that, uh, Tilsey

0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Manning is one of our forces. At trial they have

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 1>said that they are. But even if someone is arrested

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:01.479
<v Speaker 1>and convicted, and even if they were guilty, we still

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 1>don't say whether they're one of our sources or not.

0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Because someone INSI situation is under you can argue with

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:10.840
<v Speaker 1>under some kind of form of duress. Let me ask

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you one last question. For those especially in the media

0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that will pick will pick up allegations at his trial

0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:21.800
<v Speaker 1>that um that he was working for the Russians, let

0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:26.600
<v Speaker 1>me ask you a question about your motivation, because in

0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:29.920
<v Speaker 1>a private conversation we once had without divulging the nature

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of that conversation. You said to me, I am a journalist.

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<v Speaker 1>I I get information that you think the public needs

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to know. You said to me, you have no interest

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 1>in information about private citizens, for example. That and that

0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you think what you have discovered exposes like for example,

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I think if there were any good reporters in America,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have taken the Wiki leaks information that I

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<v Speaker 1>put up on a TV screen every night and I

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<v Speaker 1>read on my radio program on fifty stations every day,

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and they would have taken the issue of how corrupt

0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 1>our media is, how corrupt the Clintons were, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would have made this This would have been a case

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than Watergate. But for whatever reason, they've gone into

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<v Speaker 1>this mode where you're they don't claim you're a journalist,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're a trader, and that divulging this information was

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<v Speaker 1>only political. But I do believe it. If it was

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican they would have been praised, singing your praises

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<v Speaker 1>day and night. How do you what do you want

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<v Speaker 1>Americans to know about what your motives are? Well? Wiki

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<v Speaker 1>Thinks has been going for ten years. We specialize in

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<v Speaker 1>obtaining information which has been suppressed from the public that

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<v Speaker 1>is of political or historical importance, understanding it, analyzing it,

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<v Speaker 1>publishing it, protecting our sources, encouraging interaction with the public.

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<v Speaker 1>H and that educates everyone and they can decide how

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<v Speaker 1>they want to live their lives accordingly. And we've won

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of awards for that, a lot of journalism awards.

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<v Speaker 1>I've won the equivalent of the Pull of Surprise in

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<v Speaker 1>my own country Australia, the Walkley Award. Sure other journalists

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<v Speaker 1>have won the top journalism prize in the country three

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<v Speaker 1>three times in the case of Kristin Prapson. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good at this. We have a perfect record. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're pretty good. Have we have a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big impact as you have seen. I think you had

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<v Speaker 1>a huge impact on this election and it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>angers Democrats. Would you have published the same thing if

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<v Speaker 1>it was about Donald Trump? Absolutely? Yeah, that And because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if Donald Trump UH makes a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>enemies on on the inside UH in his time in office,

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<v Speaker 1>then he could he could well face the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>in four years time. By the way, that is the

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<v Speaker 1>best indication that this did not come from the Russians.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you meant to say that, but listen, Julian,

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<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate your time. I do think you had

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<v Speaker 1>an impact. But I do think you we got to

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<v Speaker 1>see a glimpse of how corrupt the nature the institutions

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<v Speaker 1>of American government and our political system are. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>frightening to me. It is. It is frightening, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love our publications. They're so rich, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can get a very direct understanding of the power

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<v Speaker 1>networks that exists in d C and with the media

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<v Speaker 1>and so on. At the same time, yes, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>disturbing that once you know what's going on, then you

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<v Speaker 1>can do something about it. And that was my argument

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<v Speaker 1>about why I think America owes you a debt of

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<v Speaker 1>gratitude for that and for the exposing exposing that we

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<v Speaker 1>have no cybersecurity. Julian, I've taken way too much of

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<v Speaker 1>your time. Thank you so much for being with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We really appreciate it. We hope you'll come on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks. I think it's important to note that on

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<v Speaker 1>election night, and we we had our guard up for this,

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<v Speaker 1>in our our cyber experts at DHS had we had

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<v Speaker 1>our crisis action team ready. Um on election night, we

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<v Speaker 1>did not see anything that amounted to altering ballot counts

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<v Speaker 1>or or degrading the ability to report election results or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing out of the ordinary, And there's always a certain

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<v Speaker 1>amount of noise that goes on out there, um and

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<v Speaker 1>so on election night itself, we did not see anything

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<v Speaker 1>that affected the ballot count. So I should ask in

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<v Speaker 1>in that context whether you can assure the country based

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<v Speaker 1>on what you saw that night in your analysis, since

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<v Speaker 1>that Russian hacking did not affect the outcome of the election,

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<v Speaker 1>are you confident of that? Well, we see no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that hacking by any actor altered the ballot count or

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<v Speaker 1>any cyber actions that deprived people of voting. Now, what's

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<v Speaker 1>also true, and this goes to something that we've discussed

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the briefing on Monday. There's ample evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that was known long before the election, and even in

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<v Speaker 1>most cases long before October about the Trump campaign in Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>everything from the Republican nominee himself calling on Russia to

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<v Speaker 1>hack his opponent. It might be an indication that he

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<v Speaker 1>was obviously aware and concluded, based on whatever facts or

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<v Speaker 1>sources he was he had available to him, that Russia

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<v Speaker 1>was involved and their involvement was having a negative impact

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<v Speaker 1>on his opponent's campaign. That's why he was encouraging them

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<v Speaker 1>to keep doing it. Trevor, I think what everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>to reflect on is what is it about our political ecosystem?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about the state of our democracy? Where

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<v Speaker 1>the leaks of what we're frankly not very interesting emails

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't have any explosive information in them, the result

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting ended up being an obsession and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the Russians were doing this was not an obsession,

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<v Speaker 1>This was not a secret. Running up to the election,

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<v Speaker 1>the President elect in UH in some of his political

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<v Speaker 1>events specifically said two, the Russians heck Hillary's emails so

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<v Speaker 1>that we can finally find out what's going on, and there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, confirm our conspiracy theories. You had UH what

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<v Speaker 1>was very clear UH relationships between UH, members of the

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<v Speaker 1>president Alex campaign team and Russians and a professed UH

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<v Speaker 1>shared view on a bunch of issues. All right, there

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<v Speaker 1>you have follow up to our hour long interview in

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<v Speaker 1>the last hour with Julian Assange of Wiki Leaks joining

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<v Speaker 1>us now to discuss Rich Higgins, vice President Intelligence National

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<v Speaker 1>Security Program's former manager with the Department of Defense, Combating

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<v Speaker 1>Terrorism Technical Support Office and Irregular Warfare Support Program. Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Painey is a founding member of the Department of Homeland

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<v Speaker 1>Security and author of the books See Something, Say Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>John Idonasi is the founder and CEO of vis Sense,

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<v Speaker 1>a computer scientist, former Navy seal who invented new capabilities

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<v Speaker 1>and Special Ops Community and Central intell for the Special

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<v Speaker 1>Ops community and Central Intelligence Agency. Guys, I'll start with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Higgins, I mean, Julian Assange. Cannot be any more clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Russia did not do this. They do have a tenure track,

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<v Speaker 1>could of not getting anything wrong. Nobody has disputed the

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<v Speaker 1>information that they released. Um And then when I asked

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<v Speaker 1>Julian about Craig Murray, the former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan,

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<v Speaker 1>an associate of his, and what he told The Daily

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<v Speaker 1>Mail that he claimed he had a clandestine handoff in

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<v Speaker 1>a wooded area near American University with one of the

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<v Speaker 1>email sources. That the leaker's motivation was the disgust at

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<v Speaker 1>the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and tilting the primary

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<v Speaker 1>election against Bernie Sanders Uh, and that the source had

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<v Speaker 1>legal access to the information. I'm more inclined to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that story than anything that Obama, Hillary Podesta, the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Party is trying to feed us. Uh, and the CIA,

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<v Speaker 1>which we know is politicized issues in the past, especially

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<v Speaker 1>involving defending Hillary on Benghazi. Your thoughts, Sean in one

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<v Speaker 1>fell sloop. We've seen as as this administration has on

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<v Speaker 1>their way out the door, polluted Department of Poland Security,

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<v Speaker 1>polluted the Central Intelligence Agency, the legitimized the election. The

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<v Speaker 1>person with the most clear ties to the Russians that

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<v Speaker 1>I know about is actually John Podesta. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know it is. Um. Nobody still knows what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to the d n C staff or murdered a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months ago. So so you're talking about this guy Seth, right,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that's Do you think that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a connection there? I have to tell you so, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no proof of that, but I mean we we

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<v Speaker 1>really given the Assoni statements, given the content of the information,

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<v Speaker 1>given Assangea's statements, to the legality of their uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the person who actually had the access to the documents.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a there's a lot of stuff there

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<v Speaker 1>that makes me question, what's happening. Unbelievable. Philip, what's your

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<v Speaker 1>take on this, especially the track record of Wiki Leaks.

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<v Speaker 1>The track record is of Assange the clandestine handoff drop off,

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<v Speaker 1>which she did not want to discuss in any way

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<v Speaker 1>and says it was an unauthorized interview. Who do you

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<v Speaker 1>tend to believe here? And do you think that the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA may be playing politics because there's no new information

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<v Speaker 1>since the campaign, no new information that this is all

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<v Speaker 1>stuff they had before the election that we were all

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<v Speaker 1>aware of. Both the FBI and the Director of National

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<v Speaker 1>Intelligence James Clapper all say that they do not believe

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<v Speaker 1>that there is not evidence that there's a Wiki leaks

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<v Speaker 1>connection with Russia and the Russian hacking. Well, hello everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Sewn For me, this is deja vu all over again,

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<v Speaker 1>just leading to listening to the lead up interviews before

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<v Speaker 1>we started. These are the same individuals that shut down

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<v Speaker 1>cases that I worked on within the Department of Homeland

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<v Speaker 1>Security and Reading Secretary of State Brian Kemp's comments about

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<v Speaker 1>his inquiries into the hacking of the Georgia election computer,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote that since contacking DHS with these concerns, we

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<v Speaker 1>have collaborated with the agency and provided extensive additional information,

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<v Speaker 1>and then j Johnson's response was not specific as to

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<v Speaker 1>the attacks intent or origin, despite the fact that many

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<v Speaker 1>questions remain unanswered. That sounds like a Hollywood scriptwriter for

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<v Speaker 1>what I went through. That's exactly the way they dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with me. Every time I brought up a concern about

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<v Speaker 1>national security. They would never answer the question directly. And

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<v Speaker 1>now we see it on a macro big screens scale.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also find it remarkable that for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time ever, I actually agreed with James Clapper that he

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<v Speaker 1>said there was no evidence that the Russians hacked the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign so in favor of Donald Trump. Because even are

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<v Speaker 1>as Rich alluded to, our entire intelligence infrastructure has been

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<v Speaker 1>has been corrupted and politically politicized so badly that our

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<v Speaker 1>right hand doesn't know what our left hand is doing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a perfect example of it. Yeah, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought after nine eleven, and you know, because you were

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<v Speaker 1>one of the founding members of the Department of Homeland Security,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought one of the things that we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to fix was our intelligence agencies communicating with each of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, my argument is, we know the CIA

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<v Speaker 1>politicized the issue of Benghazi and and the false story

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<v Speaker 1>of a spontaneous attack. We know that they purposely never

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<v Speaker 1>talked to people on the ground that had information that

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<v Speaker 1>would be critical when they were editing the talking points,

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<v Speaker 1>but they went with the political narrative that this was

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<v Speaker 1>a spontaneous demonstration that was inspired by a YouTube video

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<v Speaker 1>and the people that were demonstrating just happened to have

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<v Speaker 1>mortars and RPGs in their back pocket, which is totally, incompletely, assinine,

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<v Speaker 1>impossible and insane. Sure, it is especially in light of

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<v Speaker 1>what came out afterwards from the Defense Intelligence Agency's own

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<v Speaker 1>report that was concluded in August of that said that

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<v Speaker 1>the administration was shipping weapons from ben Ghazi to over

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<v Speaker 1>to Syria and backing the opposition groups which then morphed

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<v Speaker 1>into ISIS. And even though that information has been publicly

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<v Speaker 1>available for some time now, this administration just cheaps incessant,

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<v Speaker 1>incessantly repeating the same false mantra. It's a perfect example

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<v Speaker 1>of the misty disinformation campaign. We know what the truth is,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet they keep insisting that that's not what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really quite remarkable. Well it's not, but when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it through a political prism, though Phil and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have to. You're such an innocent guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I know that you'd like to believe

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<v Speaker 1>the best in people. But in looking at it, viewing

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<v Speaker 1>it through a political prism, and you say, well, do

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<v Speaker 1>they want to delegitimize Donald Trump and his election? Then

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<v Speaker 1>then it begins to make a lot of sense, doesn't it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>from a Machiavellian perspective, it's brilliant tactics. Machiavellian one oh one, absolutely, yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely right down the line. Let me let me bring

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<v Speaker 1>in if I can for a second here, John Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what about this was interesting to me? And I did

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<v Speaker 1>ask I did ask Julian about this. The Georgias Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of State, the State of Georgia confirmed ten separate cyber

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<v Speaker 1>attacks traced back to the U. S. Department of Homeland

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<v Speaker 1>Security addresses. When you couple that with the Wiki leaks

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<v Speaker 1>Craig Murray, guy who Julian did not want to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>who says he was not authorized to talk, and this

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<v Speaker 1>handoff in the wooded area of the information that they

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<v Speaker 1>got from Podesta and it was all obtained legally. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you see any connection between these two at all? Or no?

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<v Speaker 1>I see I see connection in the trade craft and

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say thanks for having me on. We're

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<v Speaker 1>entering a whole new realm here, and it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect storm where an individual can yield strategic power

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<v Speaker 1>through an Internet connection. And relative to the Georgia website attack,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very important understand unlike the other things that have

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<v Speaker 1>occurred in history and where news can sort of embellish

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<v Speaker 1>it unless your boots on the ground. This forensics associated

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<v Speaker 1>with every one of these attacks. They're digital forensics. Ten

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<v Speaker 1>separate attacks all originated from the same i P address

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<v Speaker 1>for all the listeners, let me just unpack what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>That means ten separate times all of the i P,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you know, think of it as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a post office box, all pointed to the same post

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<v Speaker 1>office box inside DHS, which is a static registration, which

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<v Speaker 1>means that is the home base for DHS Internet activity.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way for that to occur is somebody is

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<v Speaker 1>either spoofing the internet d h S I P address,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that DHS has now been hacked and it's unlikely,

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<v Speaker 1>or two, somebody inside DHS has proven the Georgia website

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<v Speaker 1>so vise forensic Sean are becoming increasingly important as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the narrative, and that's what we're missing in the

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of State Camp isn't even able to get a clear,

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<v Speaker 1>coherent answer from the very institutions that you and I

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<v Speaker 1>rely on to protect our electrical grid. Wow, pretty powerful stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you want to weigh in on that, Rich

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<v Speaker 1>and and more specifically, how is it how is it

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<v Speaker 1>possible that they're advancing this false narrative, the CIA, that

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<v Speaker 1>contradicts the FBI, that contradicts the Director of National Intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>that the media is running with. I mean, Julian Assans

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<v Speaker 1>just said, no, we only have three pages on the RNC.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't we didn't hack into them, and it really

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't relevant exactly what the FBI told Ryan's previous and

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what Ryan's previous told NBC that NBC refused to accept. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think yesterday, when you know the Congressman had asked

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<v Speaker 1>to be briefed by the intelligence community on what they

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<v Speaker 1>actually know, the intelligence agencies refused to do it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a direct assault against the sovereign power of

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<v Speaker 1>Congress enumerated in the Constitution. And the thing that really

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<v Speaker 1>screens out to me is if this is a DHS

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<v Speaker 1>probe of a state voter registration role, for example, or

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<v Speaker 1>the identification of voters or seeing how you voted, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're having states rights sovereignty issues here, we have information

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<v Speaker 1>warfare issues with the narrative adherents. May I've got to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Pompeo and General Kelly have a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>to do, a lot of work to do. What would

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<v Speaker 1>you advise them to do in what order? Well, right

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<v Speaker 1>off the top, I would say they need to prioritize

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<v Speaker 1>cyber for all the reasons Bill and John have enumerated here.

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<v Speaker 1>Um terrorist group, nation state actors, domestic political opponents are

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<v Speaker 1>all playing inside of this space, and we need to

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<v Speaker 1>take it seriously. I think for fifteen twenty years now

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<v Speaker 1>we've been nibbling around the edges on how serious a

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<v Speaker 1>threat this actually is. But this is a very signal,

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<v Speaker 1>difficant domain of security on both domestic and foreign policy

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<v Speaker 1>or impacted by it, and we need to make an

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate level of investment institutionally in dealing with it. Now, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Phil Handy, let me ask you, Uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a thousand Muslims marching in Great Britain last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want the Caliphate advance there. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you, through the prism of everything that you

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<v Speaker 1>knew and all your hard work of accumulating names that

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<v Speaker 1>was deleted under the Obama administration, you know, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we build this back up? And have you been contacted

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<v Speaker 1>by anybody in the Trump transition team to go to

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<v Speaker 1>work for them, of any of you. Yes, we're having

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<v Speaker 1>background conversations and which are good indicators. What I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>for is restoration of our capacity to do the job

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<v Speaker 1>that we took an oath to do. I have said publicly,

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<v Speaker 1>literally hundreds of times in the last few months as

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<v Speaker 1>I've traveled around the country that just let us do

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<v Speaker 1>our job and we can we can do it. We're

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<v Speaker 1>capable and restore the information. And also to see, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, the creation of a Whistleblower Commission, to create

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<v Speaker 1>a safe pathway for individuals to come in and literally

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<v Speaker 1>lay information on the table in front of a panel

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<v Speaker 1>of experts and let us go through it, categorize it,

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<v Speaker 1>prioritize it, an archive it because it's very important. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys whistleblowers are forward artillery observers and they can call

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<v Speaker 1>in precise air strikes because they know exactly where the

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<v Speaker 1>targets are. And this information is historical, it's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the country's history and it needs to be archived. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I'd like to see. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to sign me up. We have had conversations

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<v Speaker 1>and all of this stuff is very predictable, meaning the

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<v Speaker 1>marches in the UK, the fact that now they found

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<v Speaker 1>out that the guy from the most recent attack in

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio had not been correctly bad. It's these kind of

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<v Speaker 1>things just keep going on over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>It could have been in the information that Obama a

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<v Speaker 1>race that you would accumulated since founding the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Homeland Security. But I hope you worked for the Trump administration. Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you get there. And John, I'm just getting

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<v Speaker 1>to know you. But you sound like a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>they could use to thank you all for being one

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<v Speaker 1>of the welcome than the last person, the last person

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<v Speaker 1>anyone would need is me. Who the hell needs me?

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<v Speaker 1>What do I know? Uh? What a fascinating day this

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<v Speaker 1>has been. U It's just amazing. Republican members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Electoral College, this message is for you, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our founding fathers built the Electoral College to safeguard the

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<v Speaker 1>American people from the dangers of a demagogue and to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that the presidency only goes to someone who is

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<v Speaker 1>to an eminent degree, endowed with the requisite qualifications an

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<v Speaker 1>eminent degree someone who is highly qualified for the job.

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<v Speaker 1>The Electoral College was created specifically to prevent an unfit

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<v Speaker 1>candidate from becoming president. There are five hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight members of the Electoral College. You and just thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six other conscientious Republican electors can make a difference by

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<v Speaker 1>voting your conscience on December nine, te and thereby shaping

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<v Speaker 1>the future of our nation. I'm not asking you to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for Hillary Clinton. I'm not asking you to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for Hillary Clinton. I'm not asking you to vote for

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton. As you know, the Constitution gives electors the

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<v Speaker 1>right to vote for any eligible person, any eligible person,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter which party they belong to. But it should

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<v Speaker 1>certainly be someone you consider especially competent, especially competent to

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<v Speaker 1>serve as President of the United States of America. By

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<v Speaker 1>voting your conscience, you and other brave Republican electors can

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<v Speaker 1>give the House of Representatives the option to select a

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<v Speaker 1>qualified candidate for the presidency. I stand with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>stand with you. I stand with you. I stand with

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<v Speaker 1>you in support and solidarity with Conservatives, independents, and liberals

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<v Speaker 1>and all citizens of the United States. The American people

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<v Speaker 1>trust that your voice speaks for us all, and that

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<v Speaker 1>you you will make yourself heard through the constitutional responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>granted to you by Alexander Hamilton himself. What is evident

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<v Speaker 1>is that Donald Trump lacks more than the qualifications to

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<v Speaker 1>be president. He lacks the necessary stability and clearly the

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<v Speaker 1>respect for the constitution of our great nation. You have position,

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<v Speaker 1>the authority and the opportunity to go down in the

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<v Speaker 1>books as an American hero who changed the course of history.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have my respect. You have my respect. You

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<v Speaker 1>have my respect for your patriotism and service to the

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<v Speaker 1>American people. Unite for America, Ladies and gentlemen, this is

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<v Speaker 1>your captain speaking. Welcome aboard Trump FL sixteen hundred with

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<v Speaker 1>NonStop service to Canada. We'd like to welcome all our

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity defectors, and we'll get you out of America just

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as the tower clears. As for takeoff, go

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<v Speaker 1>once we reach out prouising altitude flight attendance will pass

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<v Speaker 1>through the cabin, collecting your U S Citizenship renouncement forms

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<v Speaker 1>and serving complimentary beverages and disposable crying towels. And once

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<v Speaker 1>he read the drop shone, you'll be gutting Jenny exit

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<v Speaker 1>rampant the rear of the plane, where he'll take a

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<v Speaker 1>drash course on parachute folding and be Jennison. And surely

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<v Speaker 1>thereafter we'd like to thank you for choosing Trump Airline

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<v Speaker 1>and hope you have a soft landing, Buffy. Just last

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<v Speaker 1>week he confirmed the National Review that he's again considering

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<v Speaker 1>a run in twos sixteen. Who Donald brought you account?

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<v Speaker 1>Plime check? Now on the half of this country which

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<v Speaker 1>does not want you to be president, which broadly won't

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<v Speaker 1>you to run. Donald Trump has been saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>will run for president as a Republican, which is surprising

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<v Speaker 1>since I just assumed he was running as a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>That people think that Donald Trump is a clown. Donald

1:20:46.520 --> 1:20:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is a clown, And I mean, does anybody

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<v Speaker 1>seriously think that Donald Trump is serious about running for president?

1:20:52.600 --> 1:20:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, you he's a clown. Which Republican candidate has

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<v Speaker 1>the best champce of winning the general election of the

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<v Speaker 1>declared ones. Right now, Donald Trump, president Obama will go

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<v Speaker 1>down as perhaps the worst president in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. Exclamation point at real Donald Trump, at

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<v Speaker 1>real Donald Trump. At least I will go down as

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<v Speaker 1>a president's Basically, this is the beginning of the end

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<v Speaker 1>for Trump, at the beginning of the end. The beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the end is probably starting of the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the end for for Donald Trump. Donald, You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to insult your way to the presidency. The

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<v Speaker 1>strongest person usually isn't the loudest one in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now we have Hillary is about seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>or favorite. We have different persons. Hillary up by doubling

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<v Speaker 1>digits nationally, twelve points, four way race, Clon leading in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>Culton leading in North Carolina, Clinton leading Ohio, but the

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<v Speaker 1>leading in Nevada. I could go on and on and on. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I continue to believe Mr Trump, Trump will not be president.

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<v Speaker 1>And so right now, Mr Trump, to answer your call

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<v Speaker 1>for political honesty, I just want to say, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be president. All right. It's been fun, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been great. I love you, but come on, come on, bunny,

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<v Speaker 1>we are a major projection right now, Donald Trump will

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<v Speaker 1>take OHI projects Donald Trump will carry the state of Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>US win for Donald Trumpell Donald Trump, while we project

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<v Speaker 1>will win in Kentucky, with in Indiana with its eleven

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<v Speaker 1>electoral roads, West Virginia, Coloda, Tennessee, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>North Dakota out of its three electoral votes, and South

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<v Speaker 1>dakomaa Texas record song, Louisia, the state of Montana, North Carolina, Georgia, Utah, Wisconsin, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas six electoral votes, Nebraska and it's five electoral votes

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<v Speaker 1>and with its three votes. Sorry to keep you waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>complicated business. A lot of people have laughed at me

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. Now they're not laughing so much. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you all right, tell you have it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest part of this is a group of these

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood celebrities. Not that was so powerful. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>did Hillary Clinton do at the end of the campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>She brought in Beyonce and who's she married to again?

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<v Speaker 1>What's that guy's name? Jay Z? Cursing, dropping f bombs

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<v Speaker 1>and bombs every bomb possible, and that didn't work. Then

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<v Speaker 1>bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen. That didn't work. Let's bring in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people one step out of the Hollywood, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame, which is like people like Martin she Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying now to encourage electors in the Electoral College

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<v Speaker 1>to disregard their stage voting results and deny Trump the president.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not telling you to vote for Hillary anybody, but

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<v Speaker 1>anybody but him. Well, that's what elections are about. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what the American people decided, and that's what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know half of these people. I never messing.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I know Richard Shift, you know who B. D.

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<v Speaker 1>Wong is. I have no idea who these people are. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want Trump to reach the magic number of

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<v Speaker 1>two seventy, and so they're trying to encourage, basically a

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<v Speaker 1>coup de talk. They prefer the United States not be

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<v Speaker 1>a democratic republic. They want a dictatorship and they want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to decide and they want electors. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, it's not gonna happen anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But with that said, you know the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>want to. So it's cry baby sore losers. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen it in my life like this, and the very

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<v Speaker 1>thing they all lectured Jnald Trump should never do. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to Shelly is in Nashville, Tennessee w l

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<v Speaker 1>a C. What's up, Shelly. How are you hi, Shelly?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Shelly. Hi. Uh. I'm very excited to talk to her.

1:24:54.560 --> 1:24:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I loved listening to Julian Osan talking um. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>what he had to say. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>bothered me most about the last couple of days is

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<v Speaker 1>how everyone's been talking about how Russia may have hacked

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<v Speaker 1>and then turned this information over with the intent to

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<v Speaker 1>change the election. And yet the emails that no one

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<v Speaker 1>is disputing show that our own media was intentionally trying

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<v Speaker 1>to to change this election, and that's just considered normative.

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<v Speaker 1>They were intentionally handing um questions to Hillary early. They were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the fact that Russia might have had

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<v Speaker 1>a hand in it, but our own media did, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. That just bothers me. Look, it should bother

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<v Speaker 1>you because the very thing they're acting all upset about

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<v Speaker 1>is the very thing they were actively involved in. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that was part of my opening monologue the other night

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<v Speaker 1>on TV and saying Oh, now, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>Wiki leagues matters. All of a sudden, now hacking matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Never mind that certainty exists that five foreign intelligence agencies

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<v Speaker 1>have all of Hillary Clinton's emails, which would have made

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<v Speaker 1>her compromised or would have compromised her from day one,

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<v Speaker 1>and it didn't matter that. I mean, we've known about

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<v Speaker 1>wiki leaks over ten years now, over ten years. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they really cared, why didn't they stop it? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>If the information didn't change, why did Obama say everything

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<v Speaker 1>was fine, We couldn't nobody could impact our system even

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<v Speaker 1>if they wanted to. Well, why, why all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden the change when there's no new information except that

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<v Speaker 1>this is all political and this is all an effort

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<v Speaker 1>to delegitimize Donald Trump and his victory. And as I've

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<v Speaker 1>been saying, they're gonna spend the next number of months

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<v Speaker 1>and years trying to destroy this man. I've watched this

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<v Speaker 1>happened before I was there, when new King king Ridge

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<v Speaker 1>was elected Speaker of the House. I watched how in

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<v Speaker 1>five years within within minutes after winning, remember one, in

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<v Speaker 1>November of By December he was the ging Ridge that

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<v Speaker 1>stole Christmas. On the front cover of News week in time,

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<v Speaker 1>taking poor time Tim's crutch and breaking it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's this is this is basically, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>standard operating procedure for Democrats. Just like every election Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, blah blah blah, same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Republican wins. They try and tear him down

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<v Speaker 1>limb from limb, and I think in the case of Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be the media establishment, the democratic establishment, and

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<v Speaker 1>at some point down the line, the Republican establishment will

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<v Speaker 1>all will all pound on him and try and take

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<v Speaker 1>him down. That's it. The hell with what the people think.

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<v Speaker 1>Natalie is in California next on the Sean Hannity Show.

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<v Speaker 1>What's Up, Natalie? How are you? Um? Kind of along

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<v Speaker 1>the same lines. I've had a lot of people come

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<v Speaker 1>up to me and just discuss um their concerns that Hillary.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, is this Natalie the one that I

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<v Speaker 1>know on Twitter? Natalie friend of the Friddle? Oh boy?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? Did you fix your school problem? Um? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't use those words, but it's gonna be okay, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what's your question? Okay? Thanks? Um, I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people come up to me um actually at school,

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<v Speaker 1>um and and express concerns just with this election. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they think that Hillary is gonna somehow

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<v Speaker 1>swoop in at the last minute and take back the presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've told them absolutely not, you know, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>difficult in this day and age, when when there is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of social media and there's all this talk online. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>And I would I would argue that you would agree

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump is going to be elected president and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be fine. But the point is, do you see

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<v Speaker 1>these ads being run and they're so clear about saying

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<v Speaker 1>conservatives first, and then they say liberals, and they they

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<v Speaker 1>include everybody. Would these ads be run if Hillary? If

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary had let's just flip the situation, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>put you put Hillary as the president elect and Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump winning the popular vote, would they still be running

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<v Speaker 1>these ads, you know, claiming conservatives are on board with

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<v Speaker 1>is and liberals are on board with this. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that they would. So I don't think they would either.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's so evident that this is politics. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>just take this for what it is. If if sore

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<v Speaker 1>loser recounts don't work. If Russian hacking doesn't work, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the lets to go out and we'll we'll influence the

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<v Speaker 1>electors anything we can do to delegitimize the victory of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, which they never saw coming and they can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe happened, and they can't they're just they're in a

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<v Speaker 1>state of shock and anger. It's sort of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the stages of grief. What's the first, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>go through, an angry stage, a denial stage you go through.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get to the angry stage, that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the stage that lasts the longest. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>ever get to the acceptance stage unless Donald Trump so

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<v Speaker 1>fixes the economy and makes things so much better so

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<v Speaker 1>fast that it makes people's head spin that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to even liberals acknowledge that it worked. All right, Natalie,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Thank you all. Right, back to our busy

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<v Speaker 1>telephones here as we check in with Deborah's in New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>Deborra High, how are you glad you called hi, Sean Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that everybody is trying to influence the election,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you said, and we've heard in that clip,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all trying to influence it just like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to influence now are electorals. Everybody's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>influence the election. But here's the issue. Wiki leaks, Julia

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<v Speaker 1>san is influencing. Maybe with the truth. That's what the

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<v Speaker 1>American people want. They want to make a good decision

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<v Speaker 1>when they go to that voting booth on the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>But what the media is doing is using this narrative

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<v Speaker 1>as a false narrative, as a smoke screen to take

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<v Speaker 1>our focus off of the lies. The fifth that they're

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<v Speaker 1>stealing our election with all of these illegal votes, the

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<v Speaker 1>dead votes, the multiple votes. That's that's the problem, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we need to be focusing. I totally agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you and we will. You know, if Julian Assans

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<v Speaker 1>had gone after Trump this way, he would be this

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<v Speaker 1>would be Watergate too, He'd be Woodward and Bernstein all

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<v Speaker 1>over again, all the President's men. Darlene Birmingham, Alabama, W

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<v Speaker 1>E R C. How are you? Uh? Darlen? And Glad

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<v Speaker 1>you called? I'm good son? How are you? I heard

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<v Speaker 1>you interviewing um Kevin yesterday? Was it? Ye Ken? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>About Let Let There Be Light as the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie that I'm the executive producer was filmed here

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<v Speaker 1>in Alabama, and I know you for bringing some work

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<v Speaker 1>here and it's a beautiful state and I appreciate it. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we thought long and hard about where we we We

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<v Speaker 1>really did. We spent a lot of time thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>where we need to film this and and we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to Georgia. We ended up going to

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama and it worked out really well, and everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>so helpful. We hired a lot of people down there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, I was glad to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. But more importantly, I think you'll love

1:31:47.200 --> 1:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the message this. Look, this isn't coming out until next November,

1:31:50.400 --> 1:31:52.519
<v Speaker 1>I know, but I think it's a message everyone needs

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<v Speaker 1>to here. And it's a message of faith, redemption, a

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<v Speaker 1>love story. It is, it is contemporary. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>will take on an emotional ride that I think you'll

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<v Speaker 1>find very meaningful. I hope you really like it. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much, Okay, thank you. Eight nine for one.

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<v Speaker 1>Shawn is a Totprey telephone number.