1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: And time, time, Time. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: Luck and Load Michael Very Show is on the air. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: The President just seemed to be unaware of some of 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: the problems of corn the Cornyn represents and how the 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 3: grassroots would have a really negative reaction to an endorsement. 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: He was being kind of advised. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 3: In a way that that might not be you know what, 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: would not be accepted well among Texas Republicans, especially the Grosser's. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 4: Bok direct ray after events of nine to eleven. I 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 4: think it was Admiral Bobby Inman who coined the phrase 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 4: failure of imagination, and we just couldn't conceive of the 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 4: idea that something like what happened on nine to eleven 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: would occur. 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: But that was a failure to imagine it. 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 4: And it strikes me that the events of January the 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: sixth share something in common with nine to eleven in 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: the sense that seemed like there was a failure of imagination. 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: That's not point the finger at any want buddy to blame, 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 4: but merely to try to describe what I think may 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: have occurred. 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: And speak to that quote right there. 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 5: Well, there's some more audio in this opening, but this 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 5: is important. You can tell a lot about the Republicans 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 5: in DC based on their position on a few issues. 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 5: I'm not saying this is a litmus test this you 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 5: olough for many people it is. I'm saying it tells 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: you a lot about their mindset. That was John Cornyn, 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 5: who's in a runoff in Texas for the US Senate 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 5: seat he has held for twenty four years, and he 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 5: wants six more. I mean, good grief, that's too long. 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 5: It's too long. He'd be eighty when he leaves. Now 32 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 5: you might say, well, Trump's about to be eighty in June. 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 5: Trump's a very different eighty than that guy is. That 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: is too long as leastwamp creature. But he is there 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 5: talking to Christopher Ray during a hearing after January sixth, 36 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 5: saying that, hey, do you need some more laws so 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 5: you can put those January six folks, the folks who 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 5: wandered into the into the Capitol, so that you can 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 5: put them in prison for longer as if they are 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 5: maniacal murderers. There were some little old ladies. There were 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 5: people who had their doors kicked in, their kids who 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 5: were sleeping, button naked, dragged out into the street. 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: They the overreach and. 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 5: Overkill of the response was intended to suck the soul 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 5: out of our people. Don't you dare, don't you dare 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 5: stand behind Donald Trump. We'll destroy you. That's why Trump 47 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 5: pardoned those people. And when you hear John Cornyn making 48 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 5: those statements a little passive aggressive aggressive statements like that, 49 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 5: there were other Republicans Liz Cheney who engaged in this behavior. 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 5: The Democrats didn't need to do it because the Republicans 51 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 5: did it for him, because this was their chance to 52 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 5: destroy Trump. 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: That's what it was all about. 54 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 5: We're talking about Jesse Jackson's funeral all the weekend, And 55 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 5: to be clear, I think Jesse Jackson was a grifter, 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 5: a race hustler. I think he's the worst of American society. 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 5: But I also think it tells you a lot why Clinton, Obama, 58 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 5: and Biden went to his funeral. They didn't like him, 59 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 5: and he certainly didn't like them. As his son, Jesse 60 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 5: Jackson Jr. Also a race whistler, by the way, said 61 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: but listen to this. Jesse Jackson Jr. Had said I 62 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 5: don't want politics coming into this. Because his dad actually 63 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 5: really likes Donald Trump. He said, I don't want politics 64 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 5: coming into this, and he got up after they spoke 65 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 5: and said three presidents that did not know my father 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 5: got up here and talked about politics when I asked 67 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 5: him not to. 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: Here was Joe Biden. Here's one example of Joe Biden doing. 69 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 6: That's bad times. Like now, we're in a tough spot, 70 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 6: folks for God administration. It doesn't share any of the 71 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 6: values who we have. I don't think I'm exaggerating. 72 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: A little bit. 73 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 5: You're at a funeral and the family has asked you 74 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 5: not to talk about that, so why are you doing it? 75 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 5: But then Biden gets out his crystal ball and says 76 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 5: Africa is growing. There weren't any Africans in the room 77 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 5: that I know of. There were black people, but somehow 78 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 5: he's pandering to them. Hey, hey, y'all, Africa's doing great. 79 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 5: Why would you say that? 80 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: Do you go to a. 81 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 5: White man's rountal and go you know, Ireland's really making 82 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 5: a combany This is weird. This is what Malcolm X 83 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: was talking about, how white liberals treat black people like pets, 84 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 5: stupid pets. 85 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 6: Go ahead, by the way, you know, the continent of 86 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 6: Africa is gonna be the largest continent in the world 87 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 6: in terms of population by the year twenty fifty large in. 88 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 5: The entire world. Watch Man, you just watch you black people. 89 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 5: Y'all are going to be somebody one day. Africa is 90 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 5: going to be What the hell? How about this one? 91 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 5: Here he's talking about compassion and then he tells them 92 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: all he's smarter. This is just a slightly more senile 93 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 5: Gavin Newsom. 94 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: If I told you. 95 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 6: All earlier when I was a kid, I had a 96 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 6: cleft palate or club foot, and none even have laughed. 97 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: I it's okay to laugh. It is tuttering. 98 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 6: I'm not being critical of you, but think about it. 99 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 6: It's the one place for people think you're stupid. Oh really, 100 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 6: I'm a lot smarter most of it. Oh kidness high. 101 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 5: You just told this crowd of black people you know, 102 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 5: Africa's doing real good. Yeah, y'all should be proud. Africa's 103 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 5: gonna do real good. And I stuttered, and some of 104 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 5: you made fun of me. I'm sure you didn't know me, 105 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 5: but you probably made fun of people who stuttered. 106 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: And uh, I'm a lot smarter than you though. 107 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 5: By the way, there is a thing among Democrats today, 108 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 5: a victimhood thing, and they all, especially the white males, 109 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 5: all want to claim that they've overcome this great disability. 110 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: Gavin Newsom did it a week or two ago when 111 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 5: he said he had a learning disability. He can't even read. 112 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: And then you find interviews where he talks about reading 113 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 5: someone's book in a matter of a couple of hours 114 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 5: because he just devoured it. This need So Biden, the 115 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 5: way they dealt with the fact that he has severe 116 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 5: dementia is they really they really pushed on the well, 117 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 5: he has a stutter, poor fellow, he has a stutter. 118 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 5: We can stop already with needing to claim that everybody 119 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 5: was raised really poor. Oh you want you want a 120 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 5: funny money python the four Yorkshiremen. If you just go 121 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: watch the Four Yorksmen, they're each trying to be poorer 122 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: than the next guy. That's kind of what Joe Biden does. 123 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 5: I have a stutter. I know y'all made fun of me, 124 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: even I'm smarter than you. Also, Africa's doing well. I'm 125 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 5: really happy for you black people. 126 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: What the hell? Having the beauty of syndication, which we 127 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: just began not very long ago. 128 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 5: Have been doing this for twenty years and we just 129 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 5: got a national syndication deal. And I have been self 130 00:07:53,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 5: syndicating since for about sixteen seventeen years now. But when 131 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 5: we added when we joined with the Syndicator, the affiliates 132 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 5: started adding quickly because there are lots of stations who 133 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 5: have an opening that somebody local dies or gets replaced 134 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 5: or quits or some of the other shows will go away. 135 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 5: But it's created an interesting dynamic for us and a 136 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 5: challenge because we're constantly adding new affiliates. And I do 137 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 5: this goofy thing where I read all my emails and people. 138 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: Don't believe me. 139 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 5: And one of the most annoying things that someone can do, 140 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 5: because it's a time waste, is send me an email. 141 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 5: Do you really read these? Why couldn't you just trust? 142 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 5: I mean, why would somebody lie about that? But whatever. 143 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: So what I've learned from that is that if people. 144 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 5: Don't know anything about who I am in my story, 145 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 5: they don't understand my perspective on something. 146 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: And that's true of you too. 147 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 5: If I just take a random statement from a person 148 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 5: and I don't know anything about how they arrived at 149 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 5: that perspective, I may not understand that. You know, if 150 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 5: someone's a prison guard, then their opinion on you know, 151 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 5: what turds inmates can be carries a little more weight 152 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 5: than someone who's not right. Or if someone is a 153 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 5: firefighter and they're talking about, you know, what happens on 154 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 5: the scene of a fire that's very different than your 155 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 5: average person. Just holding forth. So if you're new to 156 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 5: the show, let me just tell you very quickly. I'll 157 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 5: try not to belabor the point, but I want you 158 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: to understand the show. 159 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: We'd like to keep you around for a while. 160 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 5: I do two shows, one in the morning and one 161 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,119 Speaker 5: in the evening. They are different shows, they're not repeats. 162 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 5: That being said, if we do something really well in 163 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: the morning that I think is useful to go out 164 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 5: to a national audience. In the evening, we will take 165 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 5: a segment prop it in a really good interview. We 166 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: did that yesterday with Carolyn Wren. And that's not being lazy. 167 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 5: That is I can't replicate that. You know, news stations 168 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 5: will do that. CNN, I mean ESPN. I used to 169 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 5: be a nut for Sports Center, and they would put 170 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 5: a high energy Sports Center together for thirty minutes and 171 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 5: then they'd run it on repeat. And when I was 172 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 5: in law school, I'd sit and watch it two or 173 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 5: three times in a row, and I would say, Chris 174 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 5: Berman's line before he did, and I you know it 175 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 5: was a stress release. 176 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: I don't expect you to do that. 177 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 5: But anyway, if you only hear this show, just know 178 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 5: you can on the podcast for free. You can always 179 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: hear our morning shows. So this morning and one other 180 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 5: programming note for this show, we tend to focus more 181 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 5: on national issues and political issues because we're on stations 182 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 5: that don't know us as well, and that's a unifying 183 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 5: topic that people already care and typically if they come 184 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 5: to talk radio, they're coming for that discussion. That's kind 185 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: of expected on our morning show because we've been on 186 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 5: the air for twenty years and people feel like they 187 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 5: know me. We will delve into things that are more 188 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 5: personal that are not political, and this morning I was 189 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 5: talking about so you have to know first, my father's 190 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 5: in an old folks home, and so my mom died 191 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 5: a year and a half ago, and so my dad 192 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 5: was two hours away. So I moved him to an 193 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 5: old folks home right near us, and my wife is 194 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 5: there every day and I get to see him every day, 195 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 5: which is a real treat. But he gets the medical 196 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 5: care he so desperately needs, which he wasn't gonna be 197 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 5: able to get at home and so it's. 198 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: Just it's worked out great. It's just wonderful. 199 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: But I got an email this morning and this is 200 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 5: a non by the way, this and the next two 201 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 5: segments are non political, and I know some people they 202 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 5: just want to grind their. 203 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: Teeth and talk DC and politician going to do that. 204 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 5: So so you I'm warning in advance. Uh, there's something 205 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 5: else I want to talk about. So an old friend 206 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 5: sent me an email and he had he had pulled 207 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 5: a fuse out of his dad's astro van or van, 208 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: and he was he was feeling bad about it. He 209 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 5: did it because they were worried his father was going 210 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 5: to have a wreck, because his father was beginning to to, 211 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 5: you know, lose complete control of his mind, and there'd 212 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 5: been some some close scares and he didn't want his 213 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 5: follow to hurt himself or someone else. And he was asking, 214 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 5: some people will treat me as a dear abby and 215 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 5: I will give my advice, which is an interesting thing. 216 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 5: My wife laughs, because I do voice to text, so 217 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 5: I'm responding to emails all the time. 218 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: And it could be medical, it could be legal, it 219 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: could we wist anything. 220 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 5: And I am I am often wrong, but never in 221 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 5: doubt and I will just give people my opinion and 222 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 5: and it's not always an a that makes me popular 223 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 5: with them or whatever else. But they asked for my opinion, 224 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 5: they're going to get it. So that's that. 225 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: So he was talking about the. 226 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 5: Dilemma that he and his brothers and sisters, big family 227 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 5: were undergoing about his elderly dad. My dad's eighty six. 228 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 5: He doesn't drive anymore. And his elderly dad was younger 229 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 5: than that. 230 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: I forget. Let's say he was eighty. And he was 231 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: talking about the dilemma of. 232 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 5: He was lying to his dad, so his dad would 233 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 5: go out to the to the van, try to start. 234 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: It wouldn't start. And that was his way of getting 235 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 5: his dad not to drive. And you know this is 236 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 5: your dad, right, there's a there's a moral issue. Here's 237 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 5: person that raised you and you're being dishonest. But is 238 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 5: it just a little white lie like your parents told 239 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 5: you as a kid over some things that I won't 240 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 5: mention because there may be other kids in the car 241 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 5: right now listening with you. And we I mentioned it 242 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 5: on the air and people started calling in and it's 243 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: one of these things that everybody confronts at one point 244 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 5: or another. I expected my dad to die long before 245 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: my mom, but here we are. And I expected my 246 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 5: brother to live past fifty four because he lived right 247 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 5: near them, and he was a great He was there 248 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 5: every day, checking in on him. He's a cop, he's 249 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 5: kind of the sheep dog personality. But he's not around. 250 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: So here we are. 251 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 5: But you start having to confront issues as the adult 252 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 5: child of an aging parent. And you know, now we 253 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 5: have dementia and Parkinson's and Alzheimer's and all these things 254 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 5: to deal with, but you also have the physical you have. 255 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of folks don't want to give 256 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 5: up the independence of being able to drive or living 257 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 5: at home. So we spent a lot of time today. 258 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 5: I was overwhelmed with emails. In fact, I'm not even 259 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 5: caught up from people talking about they were glad we 260 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 5: discussed it, and a lot of people The beauty of 261 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 5: talk radio is people will be very open and they 262 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: will share things that are very personal to them because 263 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 5: you're just a disembodied voice when you call in. And 264 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 5: so we decided, as our own little public service, that 265 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 5: we would pull some of our favorites from this morning. 266 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 5: And they're not favorites for any reason other than they 267 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 5: expressed an opinion that we thought was useful in this discussion. Maybe, 268 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 5: just maybe that helps you have a conversation with your 269 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 5: ailing parent. I have a great team around me, and 270 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: we end up with a lot of audio, and we 271 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 5: are an audio medium. 272 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: Radio is an audio medium. 273 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 5: We don't we don't get we don't get to like 274 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 5: the TV news to do. We don't get to share video, 275 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 5: so we have to paint pictures this theater of the mind. 276 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 5: But also because of that, I really enjoy the use 277 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 5: of audio to tell stories about what the swamp is 278 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 5: doing to Trump, or how they're betraying you, or you know, 279 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 5: how silly AOC is or or whatever else. So in 280 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 5: any case, some calls from this morning about a subject 281 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 5: that is very important to me because I'm going through 282 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 5: it right now and my dad's eighty six, and that 283 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 5: is the issue of your parents and their independence and 284 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 5: their desire for independence versus the need for us as. 285 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: Adult children. 286 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 5: To help them out, whether that means taking away the 287 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 5: keys or talking them through that, or assisted living or 288 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 5: whatever else. Anyway, we got some great calls and I 289 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: wanted to show this for you here. Michael, Let's start 290 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 5: with you you're up, sir. 291 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Michael Young. My mother is ninety two 292 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: years old. As a long list of first women in business, 293 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: she was the first woman CFO and an all male industry. 294 00:16:53,360 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: She's been living by hersell since nineteen ninety five. She 295 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: still drives, still teaches or Sunday school class, and she's 296 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: probably been the stalwart for what I've done in my life. 297 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: She's she's a who, and she's still kicking around. I 298 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: got an aunt that's one hundred and one. A book 299 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: that's really helped me is called The Fragile Years. This 300 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: Amy Cameron over orke Lady and kind of gives you 301 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: strategies on how to navigate some of those crucial conversations. 302 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: But moms still kicking around. She's got a new puppy 303 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: she's raising, and she and my wife are best friends. 304 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: They go on trips together still, and she's an incredible woman. 305 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: Good story, Michael, Thank you, thank you for sharing it. 306 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 5: You know, Ron is another one of those names that 307 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 5: everybody was named Ron, and then nobody was named Ron. 308 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: You know did. 309 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 5: I don't think they named kids Ron anymore. I don't 310 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: know what happened Ron Ronald. Hello, I don't know what 311 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: year it happened Ron, but there's just no more run. 312 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 5: They just don't name run. I know they're going to die. 313 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: Out, I guess. 314 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 7: So a great show today and a great topic and 315 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 7: input I've got. 316 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: Hope contribute to that. 317 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 7: I'll try. On a personal note, and I'm out walking 318 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 7: my four mile walk, so if it gets noisy, tell 319 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 7: me I'll. 320 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: Move over out of the way. Worries anyway. 321 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 7: Personal note at seventy nine, I know how tough it 322 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 7: is to give up stuff. Check it off your list. 323 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 7: Within the last year, I had to sell our forty 324 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 7: foot r because probably time for me to quit pulling 325 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 7: that with a vehicle behind it. And last time I 326 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 7: went downhill snow skiing with my is and grandkids, I 327 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 7: fell a few times which I wouldn't normally have done 328 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 7: and messed up my hip a little bit. So maybe 329 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 7: I've had I'm now crossing downhill skiing off of my list. 330 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 7: So I know it's a tough thing to have to do. 331 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: To Where did you doing, I'm. 332 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 7: Mostly out in sun Dance in Park City. 333 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I've not been there, but it's supposed to be. 334 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 5: Oh it's wonderful, wonderful family. 335 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 7: Deer Valley, Park City and Sun Dance. Yeah, great places. 336 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 7: Utah just got a lot of great got a lot 337 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 7: of great, great mountains. 338 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: Anyway, I have. 339 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 7: A friend who's ten years older than me. He lives 340 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 7: in Tulsa, and he's come up with a reason to 341 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 7: keep driving at old age, about his mid eighties. He said, hey, Ron, 342 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 7: come up here. I want to show you something. So 343 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 7: we went up to Tulsa. He put me into his test. 344 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 7: Well it turned on. He's autopilot or auto drive, whatever 345 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 7: it's called. And it took us to two or three 346 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 7: places that he told it to take us to. And 347 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 7: I said, well, that's kind of cool. He says, here, 348 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 7: you get. 349 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: Behind the wheel. 350 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 7: And I said, oh no, I don't think I can 351 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 7: do this, and he says, yep, get behind it and 352 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 7: you'll be comfortable. So I got behind the wheel, punched 353 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 7: in an address. It took us there. I got to say, 354 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 7: it was pretty impressive. And this isn't an advertisement for Tesla, 355 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 7: but his argument is, hey, this ability with the autopilot 356 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 7: is going to keep me behind the wheel. Tell I'm 357 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 7: in my mid nineties. Because I get in in my driveway, 358 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 7: I punch in the address I want to go to 359 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 7: whether it's the doctor grocery store, or to his condo 360 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 7: and Gulf Shores, or wherever he wants to go, and 361 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 7: the car takes him there, he doesn't do anything but 362 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 7: sit back and relax. So he said, look, I know, 363 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 7: as you get older, you're not as good a driver 364 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 7: as you once were. He said, so this is the 365 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 7: way for me to make it safe for myself, my 366 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 7: wife and the people on the street. And he's convinced 367 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 7: that feel as long as he's kicking by his mid nineties, 368 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 7: he'll stupid. He letting it was destinal driving where he 369 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 7: wants to go. 370 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 5: I like the idea of him having the flexibility to 371 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 5: move about as he likes. 372 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, Ron John. 373 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 8: You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir, Yeah, 374 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 8: Michael Lad. I have had my wife's grandma. She lived 375 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 8: alone most of her life. She got divorced early in life, 376 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 8: and she had finally got to the point where she 377 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 8: had to have her keys taken away and we had 378 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 8: to put her into a home. And so when he 379 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 8: did take her and put her in the home, she 380 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 8: was just kind of leaving her mind at time. She 381 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 8: just couldn't find her way back kind of thing. 382 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 383 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 8: Anyway, we put her in the home, and whenever she did, 384 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 8: he he told, look, we're going to sell the car. 385 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 8: We'll pick all the money, put in an account for you. 386 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 8: Anytime you need a taxi, call that use this money 387 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 8: and go go, you know, go wherever you need to go. 388 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 8: They'll take you wherever you want to go. Right, And 389 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 8: so she did that. But anyway, when she was there, 390 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 8: she's had a new love in her life. She found 391 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 8: a man that was had retired as well and was 392 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 8: living the same home. And so they started going on 393 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 8: taxi trips together and date trips, and they would go 394 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 8: out to the parks and they take the dogs for 395 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 8: a walk and stuff like that, and they'd go on 396 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 8: special dates and things like that, and it was really 397 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 8: a neat deal. But he died early. He died before 398 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 8: she did. And and then later on when she finally 399 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 8: passed away, my uncle went to the funeral and had, 400 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 8: you know, had a be announcement the newspaper for her 401 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 8: and stuff, and lo and behold a lot of people 402 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 8: that came out were taxi cab drivers and they spoke 403 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 8: at her funeral, and they said, you know, so wonderful 404 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 8: all the time. They spent together and the love they had, 405 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 8: and this was this was a lady who was not 406 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 8: easy to get along with, but in her later years, 407 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 8: after finding her love and doing new it was really 408 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 8: a wonderful thing because I mean it was it was neat. 409 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 8: I have the garage door Company in Lubbock, Texas. 410 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 5: Oh, you have a great knack for storytelling. Fantastic knack 411 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 5: for story You have a great voice, you have a 412 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 5: great cadence, you have a great delivery. Yeah, yeah, that was 413 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 5: a you hit me on that. Uh, my allergies are 414 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 5: already bothered me. So I sound like I've been crying, 415 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 5: but uh, you hit me on that taxi driver story. 416 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 5: I did not see Jim, did you see that coming? 417 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 5: I did not see that coming. What a great story, 418 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: What a fascinating Uh topic of discussion. Thank you, John 419 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 5: seven one three, one thousand, Let's go one more. That's 420 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 5: this is the reality of what we're all living through, 421 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 5: or have lived through, or will live through. 422 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: It's coming seven thousand. Of course you can. 423 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 8: Email me you when you're listening to the Michael Berry Show. 424 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: I love to read your emails. 425 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 5: It's getting to the point that maybe one day I 426 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 5: won't be able to because we've added we're over one 427 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 5: hundred affiliates and it's a lot of people. 428 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: We have little rules. 429 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 5: You know, you get an automatic email back from me 430 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 5: if you send an email says, hey, don't send more 431 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 5: than one to day. You know, don't send links unless 432 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: you're gonna tell me what it is. 433 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: Keep it brief. 434 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 5: And the reason is because I'm steadfastly holding tight on this, 435 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 5: this ability to read all the emails because I feel 436 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: like it's my best show prep. I get to hear 437 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 5: from you. I enjoyed, I get I feel like I 438 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 5: know you. Because of it, people will pour their hearts 439 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 5: out to me, and I just enjoy it. I enjoy communication. 440 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 5: I don't have hobbies. I don't play golf, I don't 441 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 5: go hunt, I don't go fish. I like people and 442 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 5: I like to take them apart and put them back 443 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 5: together and see what makes them tick. So this morning 444 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 5: we took calls and we've created kind of a little 445 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 5: best of from this morning of people talking about their 446 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 5: parents aging, something I'm going through now with my dad 447 00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 5: who's a. 448 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 2: And you know, parents giving up. 449 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 5: We really focused on the aspect of parents, you know, 450 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 5: elderly people not being able to drive, any longer. And 451 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 5: I'm not keen on just taking away the keys, you know. 452 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 5: I think these are conversations we have and we help 453 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 5: our parents through this, but it can be dangerous anyway. 454 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: I would love to hear your story. If you want 455 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 5: to share it with me, you can go to Michael 456 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 5: Berryshow dot com and email them and I will read 457 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 5: them all. But here were some of our favorite calls 458 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 5: from earlier about this situation which. 459 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: I've been a lot of you going through. Jim eu Roup, sir, 460 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 2: let's say here. 461 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 9: Hi, my god, I'd just like to share about how 462 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 9: my dad gave up driving. 463 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: All right, all right. 464 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 9: He was about seventy five and his vision was getting bad. 465 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 9: So I said to him one day, Pop, what gray 466 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 9: beach ball in the center of my vision? But I 467 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 9: can see around. 468 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: The edges of it. 469 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 9: Oh, Paw, you can't drive anymore. Oh yeah, I'm okay, 470 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 9: I'm okay, Paw. 471 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: You can't drive anymore. 472 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 9: So I couldn't convince him. So a few months went by, 473 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 9: and he was my brother took him for a drive 474 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 9: and my dad was the passenger, and my brother was 475 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 9: driving and sat at a red light and my dad 476 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 9: said he looked up and he saw the green okay. 477 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: How he green go? 478 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 9: And my brother just sat there with his foot on 479 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 9: the brake, green go, and he just sat there. And 480 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 9: my brother turned to him and he said, Paw, can't 481 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 9: you see these two people walking in front of the car. 482 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 10: And my dad looked down and. 483 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 9: Oh my god, there was two pedestrians in front of 484 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 9: the car. 485 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: And my dad said, I'm done. 486 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 7: That's it. 487 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 9: And he would have run over to pedestrians. And so, Michael, 488 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 9: it's just it's crazy that we don't have more. Elberty killed. Yeah, 489 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 9: serious accident. And I want to say this the state 490 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 9: of Texas my driver's license. 491 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: I'm getting up there but in age, but. 492 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 9: I'm going to go sixteen years on my driver's license 493 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 9: without an eye. 494 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: Test, and that's wrong. 495 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 9: The State of Texas needs to change that. I'm going 496 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 9: to be like eighty four or something before I have 497 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 9: to have an eye test. And that's wrong that if 498 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 9: you're over sixty five you need an eye test every 499 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 9: two years. 500 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: That's what I got to say. Christina, what's your middle name? Christina? 501 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 10: Christina and Bargo would be like Victor A Rgo. 502 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: Are you an an with an E on the in 503 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: or No? 504 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 8: No? 505 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: E are you c h R. I, Yes, that's her 506 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: all right. 507 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: The more Eastern European and Hispanic version is yeah, check girl, check. 508 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 10: Girl from out in Bayette County. Yeah, I was gonna 509 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 10: tell you about my check grandma, who drove for eighty 510 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 10: five years and used them. She passed away about twelve 511 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 10: years ago, but she learned to drive in a Model 512 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 10: A and she when she yeah, and she would drive 513 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 10: up and down with the street cars and everything. And 514 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 10: then we got rid of the street cars, and then 515 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 10: we put the street cars back in, and I kept 516 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 10: telling her, grandma, how can you drive around with these trains? 517 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 10: Because you know, we that was a learning thing for 518 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 10: all of us to learn relearn all the street cars. 519 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 10: And she's just because it's the same line they used 520 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 10: them eighty years ago. But we were all, of course, 521 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 10: we were always worried about her, you know, as she 522 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 10: got older driving She lived over there by the Afterrodome, 523 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 10: and uh, you know, we were concerned. 524 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 7: You know. 525 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 10: She she would only drive on her good days, and 526 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 10: she drove all the way till she was ninety nine 527 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 10: and yeah, three months before she died. And that's probably 528 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 10: what ended up killing her, is giving up her independence 529 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 10: because she was used to driving, and and that was 530 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 10: my point of calling, is that, you know, I think 531 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 10: that maybe, uh, we don't realize that the people continuously dry, 532 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 10: the ones that are continuously She knew her way to 533 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 10: the mail to the mailbox. She knew her way down 534 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 10: west just to where she was from, you know, I 535 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 10: mean we we She just knew her way around and 536 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 10: knew what times to go that weren't busy. She knew 537 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 10: when there was construction, so she did. Okay, I mean yes, 538 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 10: it scared us. But every time she'd go back in 539 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 10: for a driver's test on a good day, she'd passed. 540 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so uh yeah, I need those tasks to feel 541 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 5: useful and independent. 542 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: Did you say she lived in west that you know, she. 543 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 10: Went out to her garage and was crying that that 544 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 10: was her best friend and her car is gone. And 545 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 10: she finally did get in an accident and that isn't 546 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 10: too serious, but the other person got the ticket. But 547 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 10: she was so cheap that she called and canceled her insurance. 548 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 10: She want to pay the insurance while her car was 549 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 10: getting repaired, and little did she know, the insurance was like, yeah, glad, 550 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 10: they finally can't you glad? She finally's off our list. 551 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: Right right? Did you say she lived in West u Yeah. 552 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 10: We grew up and about you on Westchester. Yeah, I 553 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 10: grew up there in their first house on and my 554 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 10: whole family went to set Vincent Paul Church. There's about 555 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 10: forty of us that went over there. 556 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: Some of our walked. 557 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, oh yeah we did. I'm Avargo my mom. My 558 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 10: mom was a fetie which they owned a chain of 559 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 10: auto supply stores. And my dad's family was the Vargos, 560 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 10: like the Vargoes restaurant people. Yeah, uh huh, Now that 561 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 10: was my family. We all and so yeah, we all 562 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 10: migrat and lived over in West You and my aunt 563 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 10: and uncle still live in West You and my other 564 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 10: aunts still lived over off still a link and my 565 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 10: cousins are all still around there. 566 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: Did your father operate the Vargoes restaurant? 567 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 6: Now? 568 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 10: My dad. So, my grandfather and his brother Al came 569 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 10: to Houston in the fifties. We have a Facebook page, 570 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 10: my sister and I do. It's the Bargos family's Black 571 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 10: Angus restaurant. So, my my great uncle was working at 572 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 10: the Shamrock found a guy who was trying to get 573 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 10: rid of his restaurant and so which was the Black 574 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 10: Anguest on Western to West Alabama. It's no longer there anymore. 575 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: Did they talk about this recently? 576 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, just about it all the time. 577 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 5: Somebody just posted about this in the last couple of 578 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 5: days because oh yeah, okay, all right, go ahead. 579 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, because if you look at our Facebook page. So, 580 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 10: my dad, my grandfather, my grandfather, and my in my 581 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 10: great uncle Black said he came down after World War 582 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 10: two and opened uh was working with a shamrock with 583 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 10: one of his buddies from the Air Force. And my 584 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 10: grandfather was the oldest brother and Al was the youngest, 585 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 10: and so he said, we went back up to Cleveland, Ohio, 586 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 10: got his older brother that I needed to help me 587 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 10: in the restaurant down here. They had been in a 588 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 10: Delhi business up in Cleveland. So my grandfather packed up 589 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 10: the family and they all moved down so Al and 590 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 10: Frankfurt at its angus for I don't know if fifteen 591 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 10: years or so, and we're there, yeah, and then so 592 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 10: Al when the families got bigger, all moved out to 593 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 10: Bargos and my dad, claud Bargo, was president of the 594 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 10: restaurant association. It's been around for forever. He's a full 595 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 10: of footle Heart recipient and paston. Anyway, we all worked 596 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 10: at the Black Vengas and uh yeah in Bargos. It's 597 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 10: the time, you know, families are older and that's it's 598 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 10: a hard balls and leve Thank you, good night,