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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreeger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. Welcome everybody to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Season with Peter Schreger. We are now entering, Aaron,

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Speaker 1: what is this week eleven?

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Speaker 2: We're entering We just finished ten and we're going into

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Speaker 2: week eleven.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, the season is flying by. On Sunday

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Speaker 1: there were five games decided in the final seconds by

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Speaker 1: a field goal attempt, and on Monday night there was

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Speaker 1: another one. I am Peter Schrager. I am your host

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Speaker 1: of this podcast. I picked Sean Payton to be the

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Speaker 1: NFL's Coach of the Year before the season, I picked

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Speaker 1: the Broncos to make the playoffs. The Broncos were one

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Speaker 1: and five at one point, having lost to the Jets

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Speaker 1: at home, and then very quietly they beat the Packers,

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Speaker 1: they beat the Chiefs. The trade deadline arrives, they don't

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Speaker 1: trade off Patrick's tan, they don't trade off Portland Sutton,

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Speaker 1: they don't trade off Jerry Judy, they don't trade anyone.

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Speaker 1: And they just quietly sit there and say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna play. And then they beat the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos are four and five, folks, So that's

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. But as we're recording this, we just got

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Speaker 1: news that a former guest of the season with Peter Schuger,

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Speaker 1: when things were looking a little better and the sky

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Speaker 1: was the limit, Ken Dorsey, has been fired by the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And Aaron Wan Kaufman, as my dear friend,

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Speaker 1: my partner in crime on this podcast, as my producer,

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Speaker 1: and as a diehard Buffalo Bills fan, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give you the floor. Ken Dorsey season on the brink,

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Speaker 1: fired after a week ten loss on Monday Night? Does

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Speaker 1: that change things? What is the status of the Bills

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Speaker 1: fan As we are just getting this information, I.

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Speaker 2: Think Bill's fans are confused and have been confused because

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Speaker 2: they've been calling for Dorsey's head for weeks. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think there have been a lot of games where

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Speaker 2: it seems like the offense should be doing a lot better,

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Speaker 2: and for all the injuries the defense has suffered, like

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Speaker 2: the offense should still be doing well. And I mean

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Speaker 2: last night I actually thought with Tavius Murray was running well.

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Speaker 2: James Cook got benched, but he came back in with

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Speaker 2: a vengeance, and like Cook, and Kincaid were doing a ton,

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Speaker 2: don't I don't know. I don't know if this fixes anything.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what this does to the offense. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what they do. I don't know how they

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Speaker 2: recapture the magic of the day ball offense two years ago. Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. This is rough. It's a rough last

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Speaker 2: night and then a rough day to day. And to

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Speaker 2: think that they're gonna have to install something new in

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Speaker 2: a week and play the Jets a really tough defense

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Speaker 2: that they already lost to is horrible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, item and it seems fresh, and yet you can't

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Speaker 1: be shocked considering the offense. It takes such a step back.

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Speaker 1: They haven't been the same offense since twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: if we're being honest. You know, Brian Dabole and Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen had that miracle season. Allen was unbelievable finished I

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Speaker 1: believe second in the MVP last year. Took a step back, obviously,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of us said, well, they

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Speaker 1: were rolling, and then the DeMar Hamlin thing happened, and

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Speaker 1: the travel issues happened and it was just too much

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Speaker 1: to overcome. Well, it never has gotten going this year,

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Speaker 1: so Dorsey. It's his job. He loses his job, and

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Speaker 1: that's a shame. I like Ken, He'll be okay, he'll

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Speaker 1: figure something out. But as of last year, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm talking in January, he was interviewing for head coaching jobs.

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Speaker 1: So that's the NFL, and that's what we do in

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Speaker 1: the season. We try to track you through the lives

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Speaker 1: of these coaches and just how turbulent it really is.

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Speaker 1: In January he was interviewing to be the head coach

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Speaker 1: and he has fired and out of work. That is

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Speaker 1: a wild ride, and yet it is not uncommon in

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Speaker 1: the world. That is the NFL. As we go to

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Speaker 1: the Bills, I will say Von Miller was one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars signing. Didn't see much of him

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Speaker 1: last night. Gabe Davis, I've been hearing about as a

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Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. Didn't see much of him last night.

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs was not tearing it up last night. And

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Speaker 1: We got to figure something out. I think everyone now

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Speaker 1: are out of this thing. We're not a part of it.

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Speaker 1: And Aaron, I'm not sure if he looked at the schedule.

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Speaker 1: They play the Jets, yes, but then the schedule gets

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Speaker 1: really crazy. They play the Eagles, Okay, then they have

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, it's so it looks so bleak.

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Speaker 1: Okay, as frustrated as you are, and as like I

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Speaker 1: live with a Ravens fan. She happens to be my wife.

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Speaker 1: Parents have been season ticket holders of the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 1: since they moved back to Baltimore. My father in law

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Speaker 1: has never missed a Baltimore Super Bowl, going back to

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine when he went to the Orange Bowl

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Speaker 1: to see the Colts play the Jets. In person, I

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Speaker 1: think Ravens fans at seven to three might be even

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Speaker 1: more frustrated than Bills fans at five and five. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens have the craziest season right now, where they absolutely

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Speaker 1: trash opponents, they blow them out and they have three losses,

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Speaker 1: and all three of those losses have been inexplicable fourth

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Speaker 1: The stat that we gave on Good Morning Football yesterday

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Speaker 1: morning was like, you gotta go with this. Of the

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Speaker 1: a lead through ten games in a season, five four

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The fifth is the seven and three

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, meaning they have led by they have led

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Speaker 1: time in not only this NFL season, but one of

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Speaker 1: the top five seasons of all time. And yet they're

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Speaker 1: not eighting two, they're seven and three. They lose in

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Speaker 1: the end. So which we had the conversation and today

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Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football is like, well, the good in

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Speaker 1: that is that like you're in it till the very end,

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Speaker 1: and that like you could tighten that up. The bad

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Speaker 1: in that is that, well, why can't you close? Why

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Speaker 1: can't you close? And this goes back not only Lamar

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Speaker 1: one missed opportunity after another. And he points to the

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Speaker 1: seven and three, and they're in first place in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways in the AFC. Now, of course the

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Speaker 1: tiebreakers go when it's all said and done. But like

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Speaker 1: almost like you have these two teams that everyone was

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Speaker 1: were all crowning Louenn and Rumo comes on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about how this guy's going to be the

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Speaker 1: next head coach of the NFL. Well, they're five and

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Speaker 1: four out of the playoff all right now, which leads

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Speaker 1: to an AFC team. I'd like to talk about Aaron

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Speaker 1: the Houston freaking Texans five and four. If the playoffs

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Speaker 1: the dance. CJ. Stroud has been amazing. He's got every

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Speaker 1: steady Eddy. He does not waiver. And for the second

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Speaker 1: straight week, we had his GM on last week Nick Cassario,

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Speaker 1: go find the podcast episode. It was exquisite. It was wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Nick was great. He was even better this week. He

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Speaker 1: seventy and five touchdowns. This one he threw a bad

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Speaker 1: It makes it a tie game. And he's got to

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Speaker 1: And guess what, he goes drives him the whole length

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Speaker 1: the Colts with like Peyton mana like Jerry Hughes has

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Speaker 1: And if you're thinking about an org chart, and you're

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Speaker 1: seven years. I love the fact that Tank Dell and

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins have Robert Woods in that room. I love

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Speaker 1: the fact that CJ. Stroud comes out after practice and

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Speaker 1: he talks to case Keenum, who played an NFC championship game.

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Speaker 1: Love what Houston's doing, and I don't think it's a fluke.

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Speaker 1: They're out playing teams and their defenses gone from a

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Speaker 2: Question for you about the Texans, Yeah, do you think

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Speaker 2: this is kind of a hot take? Do you think

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Speaker 2: they could win out their schedule?

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Speaker 1: Storry Bill Simmons, We're not We're not a been Bill

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Speaker 1: Simmons right here. This is very cousin salon. Bill Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the All NBA third

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Speaker 1: point card next?

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Speaker 3: We can.

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Speaker 1: It's only five weeks. It's only five weeks into the

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Speaker 1: NBA season.

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Speaker 3: We can.

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Speaker 2: Stroud exists on your Nbay. Yeah, but they have Cardinals

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Speaker 2: this week, they have Jags, the week after.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge one.

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Speaker 1: They already beat the Jags once, right.

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Speaker 2: And then the Broncos and then at Jets, at Titans

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Speaker 2: against the Browns that's the Christmas Eve, that's the big one,

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Speaker 2: and then Titans and then it Colts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they can do it.

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 1: You just dropped the word dour, bleaking dour? Is that

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Speaker 2: Let's get down relentlessly severe, stern or in manner or appearance?

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Speaker 3: when I hit the field, I will be ready. I

429
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Speaker 3: can handle it. Don't worry about it. And he never

430
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Speaker 3: swayed from that message. So it gave me the confidence

431
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Speaker 3: to say, hey, he feels good about it. You watch

432
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Speaker 3: him do it in practice. He handled it well, you

433
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Speaker 3: know during the week, So we really we really didn't

434
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Speaker 3: hold a lot back.

435
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Speaker 6: I thought he handled it really well.

436
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Speaker 1: Now, before he got there, you had Dobbs, he had

437
00:20:42,946 --> 00:20:45,346
Speaker 1: Clayton Tune, Like was he involved in the week two

438
00:20:45,346 --> 00:20:46,706
Speaker 1: week game? And I think a lot of the questions

439
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Speaker 1: about Kyler is how invested is he with the you know,

440
00:20:50,226 --> 00:20:52,826
Speaker 1: Monday to Saturday stuff. Was he there helping them game

441
00:20:52,866 --> 00:20:55,266
Speaker 1: plan and kind of learning the playbook and getting it down.

442
00:20:55,306 --> 00:20:57,906
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean he in the meeting room, he's asking questions,

443
00:20:57,946 --> 00:20:59,586
Speaker 3: he's engaging with the other guys in that room. He's

444
00:20:59,666 --> 00:21:01,786
Speaker 3: he learned a ton from their reps, listening to the

445
00:21:01,826 --> 00:21:04,426
Speaker 3: questions they asked, watch their process in terms of how

446
00:21:04,466 --> 00:21:07,106
Speaker 3: Dobbs prepared, how Clayton prepared, the things that you know,

447
00:21:07,186 --> 00:21:08,946
Speaker 3: especially Clayton as a rookie, he might give him a

448
00:21:08,946 --> 00:21:10,786
Speaker 3: little piece of advice and say, hey, like, I see

449
00:21:10,826 --> 00:21:12,226
Speaker 3: why you're seeing it this way, this is how I

450
00:21:12,226 --> 00:21:15,106
Speaker 3: think about it. And it was fun to see that development,

451
00:21:15,146 --> 00:21:18,186
Speaker 3: that growth in his game and as a teammate. And

452
00:21:18,226 --> 00:21:19,826
Speaker 3: I think he helped the guys in that room, and

453
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Speaker 3: I think he also grew a lot from watching them

454
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Speaker 3: do it and learn the offense.

455
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Speaker 6: And talk through some of the stuff that we went through.

456
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Speaker 1: Dude, I watched this Cardinals team, and I know you

457
00:21:27,066 --> 00:21:28,386
Speaker 1: guys only have two and it's not like you guys

458
00:21:28,386 --> 00:21:30,306
Speaker 1: are like the seventy six Steelers of the eighty five Bears.

459
00:21:30,346 --> 00:21:32,746
Speaker 1: I get it, But gosh, is there not a team

460
00:21:32,906 --> 00:21:35,106
Speaker 1: in the league that fights harder and seems to have

461
00:21:35,146 --> 00:21:37,346
Speaker 1: more fun and goes out there and plays like we

462
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Speaker 1: know that the talent necessarily isn't you know, the greatest

463
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Speaker 1: show on turfor but your boys are playing like what's

464
00:21:43,586 --> 00:21:45,666
Speaker 1: the vibe there in Arizona that every week, no one

465
00:21:45,666 --> 00:21:47,586
Speaker 1: has packed it in. If anything, the team is getting

466
00:21:47,586 --> 00:21:48,626
Speaker 1: better as the season goes on.

467
00:21:48,746 --> 00:21:51,266
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's really been our focus since we got

468
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Speaker 3: here in April, when the first day the players showed up.

469
00:21:53,466 --> 00:21:55,946
Speaker 3: It's our goal is to get better every day, regardless

470
00:21:55,986 --> 00:22:00,066
Speaker 3: of outcome, regardless of score. Are you individually improving at

471
00:22:00,106 --> 00:22:04,346
Speaker 3: your job and coaching, playing organizationally? Are we doing the

472
00:22:04,386 --> 00:22:06,426
Speaker 3: things to make sure we're moving in the right direction, win, lose,

473
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Speaker 3: And I think that's the important thing. Like we came

474
00:22:08,586 --> 00:22:10,746
Speaker 3: in on Monday after the win on Sunday, it wasn't

475
00:22:10,746 --> 00:22:12,986
Speaker 3: any different than the week before after the Cleveland game.

476
00:22:13,146 --> 00:22:15,346
Speaker 3: It is, Hey, we won the game because we did

477
00:22:15,346 --> 00:22:17,346
Speaker 3: these things well, we could have lost the game.

478
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Speaker 6: Because we need to improve in these areas. That's the focus.

479
00:22:19,786 --> 00:22:21,626
Speaker 3: Continue to play at a high level, continue to play

480
00:22:21,666 --> 00:22:23,746
Speaker 3: your asshole from an effort perspective, and we're going to

481
00:22:23,866 --> 00:22:25,026
Speaker 3: end up where we want to be and it's going

482
00:22:25,066 --> 00:22:27,306
Speaker 3: to take time. You know, it's not an overnight fix

483
00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:29,706
Speaker 3: when it's good or bad, and there's always room for improvement.

484
00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:33,186
Speaker 1: I love your story personally. You're in your mid thirties,

485
00:22:33,426 --> 00:22:35,986
Speaker 1: you're one of the youngest play callers in the NFL.

486
00:22:36,066 --> 00:22:39,346
Speaker 1: Gannon's a defensive coach. Obviously, you guys come in, but

487
00:22:39,506 --> 00:22:41,626
Speaker 1: like you played in high school, you're the captain of

488
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Speaker 1: your team. You go to Middlebury, which I think of

489
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Speaker 1: historically as a lacrosse school if I'm being honest, like

490
00:22:47,186 --> 00:22:50,386
Speaker 1: that's a big lacrosse school. You're you're there, You're playing

491
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Speaker 1: defensive back. You get your career caught short by an injury.

492
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Speaker 1: And now, look, you're not an Alabama, ohiouse state. You're

493
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Speaker 1: at Middlebury and you still say, hey, I'm going to

494
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Speaker 1: pursue a life in football. When you hurt yourself and

495
00:23:02,026 --> 00:23:05,906
Speaker 1: you couldn't play football anymore in college and you're at

496
00:23:05,906 --> 00:23:08,546
Speaker 1: middle Bay. Are you a D three school? How do

497
00:23:08,586 --> 00:23:11,106
Speaker 1: you keep focused? How do you stay committed and say no, no, no,

498
00:23:11,146 --> 00:23:13,786
Speaker 1: but my football dream isn't necessarily over here. Yeah.

499
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Speaker 3: I think I had a lot of really good people

500
00:23:15,226 --> 00:23:17,226
Speaker 3: around me. I relied heavily on coach Ritter. You know

501
00:23:17,306 --> 00:23:19,146
Speaker 3: my father, you know people that I was close with

502
00:23:19,186 --> 00:23:21,426
Speaker 3: because the game has been has always been so important

503
00:23:21,426 --> 00:23:23,546
Speaker 3: to me. I love the sport, I love the scheme,

504
00:23:23,626 --> 00:23:26,026
Speaker 3: I love the relationships you build, just the whole process

505
00:23:26,106 --> 00:23:29,186
Speaker 3: of what football brings to your life. So when it

506
00:23:29,226 --> 00:23:31,106
Speaker 3: got taken from me, I missed it and it really

507
00:23:31,266 --> 00:23:32,986
Speaker 3: kind of like put me in a funk, like and

508
00:23:33,066 --> 00:23:34,906
Speaker 3: not that I lost a piece of my identity, but

509
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Speaker 3: I really didn't have a direction, didn't know what I

510
00:23:36,506 --> 00:23:38,786
Speaker 3: wanted to do. And coach Ritter, who is the head

511
00:23:38,786 --> 00:23:41,986
Speaker 3: coach at the time, he just retired last year. You know,

512
00:23:42,346 --> 00:23:44,066
Speaker 3: I said, hey, can I help out? Can I stay

513
00:23:44,106 --> 00:23:45,826
Speaker 3: around the game? Can I help coach? It's something I

514
00:23:45,906 --> 00:23:48,986
Speaker 3: might be interested in. And he actually played with my father,

515
00:23:49,146 --> 00:23:51,186
Speaker 3: so he was like, I would love to let you

516
00:23:51,466 --> 00:23:53,626
Speaker 3: help out. He goes, but if you're a grade slip

517
00:23:53,626 --> 00:23:55,466
Speaker 3: at all, your dad is going to murder me.

518
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Speaker 6: He's like, so, just where did you grow up, Drew?

519
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Speaker 1: Are you Massachusetts guy?

520
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Speaker 6: When I was seven?

521
00:24:00,226 --> 00:24:02,666
Speaker 3: So it grew up just outside Boston and Wellesley, Massachusetts

522
00:24:03,506 --> 00:24:05,906
Speaker 3: and lived there most of my childhood. And so my

523
00:24:05,986 --> 00:24:08,786
Speaker 3: first year I volunteered in the fall. My junior year

524
00:24:08,906 --> 00:24:11,306
Speaker 3: didn't play, helped out on defense because I played safety

525
00:24:11,626 --> 00:24:13,466
Speaker 3: and just like fell in love with it, like you know,

526
00:24:13,466 --> 00:24:15,266
Speaker 3: a D three school. I think there was seven guys

527
00:24:15,306 --> 00:24:17,786
Speaker 3: on staff. Yeah, like as an eighth guy, you got

528
00:24:17,786 --> 00:24:20,546
Speaker 3: to be very involved. Like I was doing breakdowns, I

529
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Speaker 3: got to coach, I was helping film practice, I was

530
00:24:22,986 --> 00:24:26,186
Speaker 3: doing film exchanges and just loved it. And then that

531
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Speaker 3: summer I did a business program at Dartmouth, the Tough

532
00:24:29,706 --> 00:24:32,546
Speaker 3: Business Bridge Program, and it was like an intensive business

533
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Speaker 3: course to look at finance and court.

534
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Speaker 1: You know, all tell me you're a Buddy Steven's disciple

535
00:24:37,066 --> 00:24:38,426
Speaker 1: as well, are you?

536
00:24:38,466 --> 00:24:38,946
Speaker 6: No, I'm not.

537
00:24:39,306 --> 00:24:39,426
Speaker 2: OK.

538
00:24:39,706 --> 00:24:41,466
Speaker 3: It was strictly from a school perspective, but it was

539
00:24:41,466 --> 00:24:43,106
Speaker 3: that contrast of like, all right, I could do this,

540
00:24:43,186 --> 00:24:45,946
Speaker 3: and I could go into banking or finance or you know,

541
00:24:46,466 --> 00:24:48,506
Speaker 3: or I could coach football. And I'm like, God, that

542
00:24:48,586 --> 00:24:51,466
Speaker 3: fall of football was one hundred times more enjoyable. And

543
00:24:51,506 --> 00:24:53,106
Speaker 3: I'm like, and if you can make money doing this,

544
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Speaker 3: I'm doing this. So it was kind of just put

545
00:24:55,346 --> 00:24:57,426
Speaker 3: all the eggs in that basket. Try to start to

546
00:24:57,426 --> 00:24:59,426
Speaker 3: meet people and get connected with people in different areas.

547
00:24:59,546 --> 00:25:01,866
Speaker 3: Learn everything I could from a coaching perspective, and I

548
00:25:02,066 --> 00:25:04,026
Speaker 3: was very fortunate in my career early to be around

549
00:25:04,066 --> 00:25:07,106
Speaker 3: some great people that grew me, developed me, invested in me,

550
00:25:07,146 --> 00:25:09,066
Speaker 3: and taught me a lot about the business and helped

551
00:25:09,106 --> 00:25:10,226
Speaker 3: me with some great opportunity.

552
00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:12,546
Speaker 1: So you see a light, you see football, you see joy.

553
00:25:13,106 --> 00:25:15,226
Speaker 1: Your first gig was in two thousand and nine. You

554
00:25:15,226 --> 00:25:18,826
Speaker 1: were a volunteer student assistant at Harvard. How does that happen?

555
00:25:18,866 --> 00:25:19,786
Speaker 1: And what was that role?

556
00:25:20,146 --> 00:25:21,946
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was kind of like, so, as I said,

557
00:25:21,946 --> 00:25:23,186
Speaker 3: so volunteer my junior year.

558
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Speaker 6: I actually had enough credits.

559
00:25:24,466 --> 00:25:26,346
Speaker 3: I didn't take any classes my senior year, and I

560
00:25:26,386 --> 00:25:28,266
Speaker 3: was going to volunteer and they had an open position,

561
00:25:28,386 --> 00:25:30,666
Speaker 3: so they ended up paying. I was a senior in college,

562
00:25:30,746 --> 00:25:32,306
Speaker 3: living off campus and not taking classes.

563
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Speaker 6: Coaching football. It was like the truly the like. It

564
00:25:34,586 --> 00:25:36,746
Speaker 6: was the dreat like it it was the best.

565
00:25:36,826 --> 00:25:38,786
Speaker 3: And and when school was coming to a close, it

566
00:25:38,826 --> 00:25:40,186
Speaker 3: was like, all right, I gotta start talking to people.

567
00:25:40,186 --> 00:25:41,826
Speaker 3: I got to find my next job. I want to

568
00:25:41,826 --> 00:25:43,226
Speaker 3: stay in football. I want to make this work. And

569
00:25:43,266 --> 00:25:45,906
Speaker 3: I just started kind of using the small connections I had.

570
00:25:45,946 --> 00:25:48,906
Speaker 3: And a family friend, Ben Bloom, who's the D line

571
00:25:48,906 --> 00:25:52,266
Speaker 3: coach now with the Browns, was an assistant D line

572
00:25:52,266 --> 00:25:55,266
Speaker 3: coach at Harvard from Wellesley, so from my hometown, and

573
00:25:55,306 --> 00:25:56,586
Speaker 3: I kind of he was one of the guys I

574
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Speaker 3: reached out to and he goes, hey, you know funny

575
00:25:58,266 --> 00:26:00,706
Speaker 3: you called, he goes. We were talking to staff meeting

576
00:26:00,786 --> 00:26:02,866
Speaker 3: this morning. We're looking for an unpaid intern. You're not

577
00:26:02,906 --> 00:26:04,306
Speaker 3: going to make any money, but it's a great foot

578
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Speaker 3: in the door. And I kind of feel like coach,

579
00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:08,666
Speaker 3: you know, Murphy, who's still at Harvard, would let me

580
00:26:08,666 --> 00:26:10,626
Speaker 3: have pretty big say on who we bring in. Are

581
00:26:10,666 --> 00:26:12,426
Speaker 3: you interested? I said, if the job's there, I'll like,

582
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Speaker 3: I'm there tomorrow.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

584
00:26:13,746 --> 00:26:15,866
Speaker 3: And so I went down there for the spring game

585
00:26:15,906 --> 00:26:18,906
Speaker 3: and met those guys, and then literally I graduated on Sunday.

586
00:26:19,346 --> 00:26:21,186
Speaker 3: I drove home Monday. I was in a staff meeting

587
00:26:21,186 --> 00:26:24,746
Speaker 3: Tuesday morning and worked there that first season, unpaid on defense,

588
00:26:24,786 --> 00:26:26,666
Speaker 3: and it was all, I mean, the amount of football

589
00:26:26,666 --> 00:26:29,026
Speaker 3: I learned, what I got exposed to, it was. It

590
00:26:29,066 --> 00:26:29,586
Speaker 3: was awesome.

591
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Speaker 1: It's funny because Middlebury, if the listeners at home don't

592
00:26:32,826 --> 00:26:34,506
Speaker 1: like you go to I'm in We're in lowerman he

593
00:26:34,626 --> 00:26:37,826
Speaker 1: you go to Wall Street. Every other person is Harvard, Yale, Middlebury,

594
00:26:37,866 --> 00:26:40,266
Speaker 1: like all these and you could have had that walk.

595
00:26:40,346 --> 00:26:42,546
Speaker 1: You could have walked that walk. You're like, no football.

596
00:26:42,666 --> 00:26:44,386
Speaker 1: You go to b C to be an assistant, then

597
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Speaker 1: you end up at Yale. I imagine Middlebury, BC Yale, Harvard,

598
00:26:49,746 --> 00:26:53,066
Speaker 1: You're collecting people in your lives that, yes, football, but

599
00:26:53,146 --> 00:26:54,826
Speaker 1: some of the most interesting people in the world who

600
00:26:54,826 --> 00:26:56,506
Speaker 1: are doing some crazy, big things right now.

601
00:26:56,666 --> 00:26:59,706
Speaker 6: Yeah, as you said. And then mostly the players, the students.

602
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Speaker 3: I mean it was like I remember talking to some

603
00:27:01,306 --> 00:27:02,866
Speaker 3: of the guys as they were graduated at Harvard and

604
00:27:02,906 --> 00:27:05,266
Speaker 3: the opportunities they were just you know, I was unpaid

605
00:27:05,506 --> 00:27:07,626
Speaker 3: and they're deciding to do I have this six figure

606
00:27:07,706 --> 00:27:10,586
Speaker 3: job with this bonus. I'm like, that money doesn't seem

607
00:27:10,626 --> 00:27:12,586
Speaker 3: real to me. I don't like the mind blowing to me.

608
00:27:12,666 --> 00:27:15,226
Speaker 3: The opportunities those guys had, obviously because of who they

609
00:27:15,266 --> 00:27:16,346
Speaker 3: are and what they were a part of.

610
00:27:16,386 --> 00:27:17,546
Speaker 2: And but yeah, it was.

611
00:27:17,586 --> 00:27:19,546
Speaker 3: It was. It was really great to get exposed to

612
00:27:19,546 --> 00:27:21,466
Speaker 3: those type people on so many different areas, so many

613
00:27:21,466 --> 00:27:22,266
Speaker 3: different levels.

614
00:27:22,506 --> 00:27:26,466
Speaker 1: Twenty thirteen, an NFL gig opens up your four years

615
00:27:26,466 --> 00:27:30,426
Speaker 1: into coaching and it's an intern with the operation side

616
00:27:30,466 --> 00:27:33,266
Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns. How does that come a bit

617
00:27:33,346 --> 00:27:35,066
Speaker 1: come to me? And was that Mike Petton? Was that

618
00:27:35,226 --> 00:27:36,666
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan? What team was that?

619
00:27:36,706 --> 00:27:39,826
Speaker 3: So? Rob Chazinski was the head coach Chud it was

620
00:27:39,866 --> 00:27:42,466
Speaker 3: his first year. I'd never been in the NFL. I really,

621
00:27:42,546 --> 00:27:45,506
Speaker 3: I still don't exactly know, because I didn't know anybody

622
00:27:45,546 --> 00:27:45,986
Speaker 3: in the building.

623
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Speaker 6: I believe Alex Shriner was the president.

624
00:27:48,226 --> 00:27:51,706
Speaker 3: He'd just come over from Dallas, and Chud wanted to

625
00:27:51,746 --> 00:27:53,946
Speaker 3: hire those that New England position of like that. They

626
00:27:53,986 --> 00:27:55,826
Speaker 3: called it twenty for twenty, like you work twenty hours

627
00:27:55,866 --> 00:27:58,306
Speaker 3: a day, yep, for twenty grand the entire year.

628
00:27:58,666 --> 00:28:01,226
Speaker 1: And but he never the Ravens. The Ravens do like

629
00:28:01,226 --> 00:28:04,626
Speaker 1: an actual ceremony about their twenty twenty guys. I'm always like, guys,

630
00:28:04,826 --> 00:28:06,866
Speaker 1: all right, sure, but there's like a long trichdition of

631
00:28:06,906 --> 00:28:09,506
Speaker 1: all those Ravens front office guys. They all walked that walk.

632
00:28:09,586 --> 00:28:12,386
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so and so they'd never had done it before.

633
00:28:12,586 --> 00:28:15,146
Speaker 3: So I think what happened was, you know, Aleck had

634
00:28:15,186 --> 00:28:17,266
Speaker 3: just come from Dallas, where they had done the position.

635
00:28:17,506 --> 00:28:19,346
Speaker 6: Chud had never done it. So Alex was like, Hey,

636
00:28:19,386 --> 00:28:20,186
Speaker 6: call a couple of these guys.

637
00:28:20,226 --> 00:28:23,186
Speaker 3: And the guys that had done it at Dallas, Ben Bloom,

638
00:28:23,546 --> 00:28:26,306
Speaker 3: Dave Borgonzi, now with the Bears, were guys that I

639
00:28:26,386 --> 00:28:28,826
Speaker 3: worked with at Harvard when I was unpaid, And so

640
00:28:28,866 --> 00:28:30,306
Speaker 3: they called these guys and said, hey, what did you

641
00:28:30,346 --> 00:28:31,066
Speaker 3: make what did you do?

642
00:28:31,146 --> 00:28:31,906
Speaker 6: What was your role?

643
00:28:32,186 --> 00:28:33,626
Speaker 3: And they kind of answered the question said, hey, if

644
00:28:33,626 --> 00:28:36,026
Speaker 3: you're looking for a guy, there's a guy Yale who

645
00:28:36,066 --> 00:28:36,906
Speaker 3: would be a great candidate.

646
00:28:36,946 --> 00:28:39,026
Speaker 6: I'm sure he'd love the opportunity. He'd give him a call.

647
00:28:39,226 --> 00:28:40,746
Speaker 3: So I kind of got a call out of the blue,

648
00:28:41,226 --> 00:28:43,186
Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, like absolutely, They're like, hey, look,

649
00:28:43,186 --> 00:28:44,826
Speaker 3: it's going to be a big pay cut because I Yale,

650
00:28:44,866 --> 00:28:46,506
Speaker 3: I had my first position job, I was hitting my

651
00:28:46,506 --> 00:28:49,346
Speaker 3: own hair job, I was coaching the outside linebackers, was

652
00:28:49,386 --> 00:28:53,066
Speaker 3: recruiting the West Coast, actually recruited Foyer Olakun.

653
00:28:52,786 --> 00:28:55,026
Speaker 1: Like he could be Yale killing it for the Jaguars.

654
00:28:55,506 --> 00:28:57,506
Speaker 3: Love watching him play because obviously got close with him

655
00:28:57,546 --> 00:29:01,386
Speaker 3: through the recruiting process. And I was like absolutely, like NFL,

656
00:29:01,386 --> 00:29:03,066
Speaker 3: if it's an opportunity, I'd love to take it, Like

657
00:29:03,106 --> 00:29:04,746
Speaker 3: don't really care what the role is, Like, let me

658
00:29:04,786 --> 00:29:06,306
Speaker 3: in the building and I'll figure it out.

659
00:29:06,466 --> 00:29:07,706
Speaker 6: And went through the process.

660
00:29:07,706 --> 00:29:09,466
Speaker 3: It was kind of a wild and I got snowed

661
00:29:09,506 --> 00:29:11,266
Speaker 3: in out there for like three days during my interview,

662
00:29:11,546 --> 00:29:13,226
Speaker 3: and on the third day, Chud was like, well at

663
00:29:13,266 --> 00:29:17,666
Speaker 3: this point, you basically just work here the job, So yeah,

664
00:29:17,706 --> 00:29:19,266
Speaker 3: and then kind of the rest was history. And at

665
00:29:19,266 --> 00:29:21,586
Speaker 3: that point I'd really only been on defense, Like I

666
00:29:21,626 --> 00:29:25,666
Speaker 3: played safety, played linebacker. Coach TV's at Middlebury, was a

667
00:29:25,746 --> 00:29:28,746
Speaker 3: defensive jay at Boston College, and so my first week there,

668
00:29:28,826 --> 00:29:30,946
Speaker 3: Ray Horton was the defensive coordinator. I put his playbook

669
00:29:30,986 --> 00:29:33,706
Speaker 3: into visio from PowerPoint. I was like, I'm on defense.

670
00:29:34,066 --> 00:29:36,426
Speaker 3: And then Norv just like started yelling my name down

671
00:29:36,466 --> 00:29:39,386
Speaker 3: the hallway for random things like he'd want coffee or

672
00:29:39,386 --> 00:29:41,146
Speaker 3: a cut up, or he'd want to talk about something

673
00:29:41,146 --> 00:29:44,426
Speaker 3: he saw on social media, and like before the OTA started,

674
00:29:44,426 --> 00:29:45,626
Speaker 3: He's like, now you're on offense now.

675
00:29:45,786 --> 00:29:47,706
Speaker 6: And I was like, okay, I'm on offense here.

676
00:29:47,506 --> 00:29:49,466
Speaker 1: And I'm working with North Turner, hall of fame coach

677
00:29:49,506 --> 00:29:51,906
Speaker 1: who you know, Troy ik Vin swear Spy, Okay.

678
00:29:51,626 --> 00:29:53,426
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he was, I mean, I can't. I could

679
00:29:53,466 --> 00:29:54,266
Speaker 6: go on about him.

680
00:29:54,226 --> 00:29:55,586
Speaker 1: For I love North too.

681
00:29:55,906 --> 00:29:59,906
Speaker 3: One of the best, right, absolute best person coach. I mean,

682
00:29:59,946 --> 00:30:02,026
Speaker 3: I probably owe ninety five percent of my career to

683
00:30:02,066 --> 00:30:04,226
Speaker 3: that guy. But just like he just took me under

684
00:30:04,226 --> 00:30:06,666
Speaker 3: his wing, put me on offense, sat in the you know,

685
00:30:06,706 --> 00:30:08,466
Speaker 3: they let me move around that first off season. I

686
00:30:08,546 --> 00:30:10,666
Speaker 3: jumped in the tight end room the receiver room, the

687
00:30:10,706 --> 00:30:12,306
Speaker 3: O line room, and then when the season started, I

688
00:30:12,306 --> 00:30:14,746
Speaker 3: was in the quarterback room with Norvin Chaine Steichen, who

689
00:30:14,786 --> 00:30:17,066
Speaker 3: was a quality control coach at the time. Yeah, I

690
00:30:17,106 --> 00:30:18,666
Speaker 3: mean it was wild. It was a quick transition. But

691
00:30:18,706 --> 00:30:20,946
Speaker 3: those guys really they grew me as a coach. I

692
00:30:20,946 --> 00:30:22,666
Speaker 3: mean I'd never been on offense. I never called to

693
00:30:22,666 --> 00:30:24,066
Speaker 3: play in it. For me, like it was all new

694
00:30:24,066 --> 00:30:26,146
Speaker 3: to me, and they gave me the opportunity to learn

695
00:30:26,186 --> 00:30:27,946
Speaker 3: it and be a part of it, and obviously very

696
00:30:27,986 --> 00:30:28,506
Speaker 3: thankful for that.

697
00:30:28,786 --> 00:30:30,586
Speaker 1: All Right, you're in your twenties. I assume at this

698
00:30:30,706 --> 00:30:33,506
Speaker 1: time you're single. You've got just like take me wherever

699
00:30:33,546 --> 00:30:36,026
Speaker 1: I got to go to do this job. The Minnesota

700
00:30:36,106 --> 00:30:37,986
Speaker 1: Vikings calling, you're there for an extended amount of time.

701
00:30:38,026 --> 00:30:39,586
Speaker 1: Who brought you to Minnesota was at NorVa.

702
00:30:40,226 --> 00:30:42,386
Speaker 3: So yeah, And I can't say I was single because

703
00:30:42,426 --> 00:30:44,506
Speaker 3: my wife would get really mad at if she say, no,

704
00:30:44,586 --> 00:30:44,946
Speaker 3: you're good.

705
00:30:45,026 --> 00:30:46,106
Speaker 6: We were no, here's five.

706
00:30:46,346 --> 00:30:47,946
Speaker 3: It was like that's part of the hilarious, Like we

707
00:30:47,946 --> 00:30:50,586
Speaker 3: were long distance and so like I was moving and

708
00:30:50,626 --> 00:30:52,666
Speaker 3: she's like, what in the world are you doing? And

709
00:30:52,706 --> 00:30:54,906
Speaker 3: what do you do? Then do Yeah, like when I

710
00:30:54,946 --> 00:30:57,586
Speaker 3: got snowed in in Cleveland. She was coming to visit me.

711
00:30:57,826 --> 00:31:00,026
Speaker 3: She stayed in the I don't know if you remember

712
00:31:00,106 --> 00:31:02,866
Speaker 3: that massive storm we got in twenty twelve or twenty thirteen,

713
00:31:03,266 --> 00:31:05,026
Speaker 3: Like they had tanks through the streets of New Haven

714
00:31:05,026 --> 00:31:07,146
Speaker 3: because you couldn't get anywhere. Yeah, he got stuck in

715
00:31:07,186 --> 00:31:07,626
Speaker 3: my apartment.

716
00:31:07,626 --> 00:31:09,586
Speaker 6: I never saw her. She I got back before she

717
00:31:09,626 --> 00:31:10,186
Speaker 6: had to go back.

718
00:31:10,186 --> 00:31:13,706
Speaker 1: I mean it was yeah, so I was the one

719
00:31:13,786 --> 00:31:14,386
Speaker 1: few honey.

720
00:31:14,506 --> 00:31:17,226
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we were when we got let go in Cleveland.

721
00:31:17,586 --> 00:31:19,586
Speaker 3: Uh No, I just stuck around him like until someone

722
00:31:19,586 --> 00:31:20,306
Speaker 3: literally kicks me.

723
00:31:20,226 --> 00:31:20,466
Speaker 1: Out of the.

724
00:31:23,586 --> 00:31:26,026
Speaker 3: Showing up of like I'll be operations, I'll be scouting,

725
00:31:26,066 --> 00:31:27,906
Speaker 3: I'll be coaching, like whatever it takes.

726
00:31:27,946 --> 00:31:29,786
Speaker 1: Not to interrupt. But that's what Sala said. He was

727
00:31:29,786 --> 00:31:33,506
Speaker 1: with Houston, and I guess Koobiak got fired. Dom Caper's

728
00:31:33,546 --> 00:31:35,666
Speaker 1: got fired, and Sala was like, no one told me

729
00:31:35,706 --> 00:31:36,986
Speaker 1: I didn't have a job. So I just showed up

730
00:31:37,026 --> 00:31:39,306
Speaker 1: the next day and like Kubiak's like, who are you Okay?

731
00:31:39,306 --> 00:31:40,786
Speaker 1: You're on the staff, Like it works that way at

732
00:31:40,786 --> 00:31:41,386
Speaker 1: the lowest level.

733
00:31:41,426 --> 00:31:41,546
Speaker 3: Oh.

734
00:31:41,586 --> 00:31:43,346
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And you know, so I was picking guys up

735
00:31:43,346 --> 00:31:43,826
Speaker 6: from the airport.

736
00:31:43,866 --> 00:31:46,386
Speaker 3: I was grabbing dinners like I delivered dinner to Mike

737
00:31:46,426 --> 00:31:47,906
Speaker 3: Petton one night because he had just got you know,

738
00:31:47,986 --> 00:31:49,306
Speaker 3: after a couple of weeks he got hired.

739
00:31:49,386 --> 00:31:51,786
Speaker 6: I think he thought she thought I was the delivery guy.

740
00:31:52,106 --> 00:31:54,506
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm down the hall. I'm just in operations.

741
00:31:54,506 --> 00:31:55,946
Speaker 3: If you need anybody, I'll be there. I can do

742
00:31:55,986 --> 00:31:58,226
Speaker 3: whatever you need. And uh, Norma got the job in

743
00:31:58,266 --> 00:32:00,786
Speaker 3: Minnesota and and ended up having an opportunity. It was,

744
00:32:01,146 --> 00:32:03,466
Speaker 3: you know, it was again it would be a longer

745
00:32:03,466 --> 00:32:05,226
Speaker 3: story than we probably have time for, but almost ended

746
00:32:05,306 --> 00:32:05,786
Speaker 3: up in Dallas.

747
00:32:05,786 --> 00:32:08,146
Speaker 6: Ben Bloom was in Dallas and they had a similar role.

748
00:32:08,546 --> 00:32:10,506
Speaker 3: But Norvid kind of told me, hey, whatever you do,

749
00:32:10,546 --> 00:32:11,906
Speaker 3: you don't take a job without calling me.

750
00:32:12,666 --> 00:32:14,186
Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously I'm gonna do right by you.

751
00:32:14,426 --> 00:32:15,986
Speaker 3: So when Dallas called, I was on the phone with

752
00:32:16,066 --> 00:32:17,466
Speaker 3: Jason Garrett and he said, hey, we want to fly

753
00:32:17,546 --> 00:32:18,986
Speaker 3: out for an interview for this indor position.

754
00:32:19,026 --> 00:32:21,066
Speaker 6: Ben talk really highly of you think could be a

755
00:32:21,106 --> 00:32:21,426
Speaker 6: great fit.

756
00:32:21,466 --> 00:32:22,466
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, I don't. I mean I

757
00:32:22,466 --> 00:32:23,906
Speaker 3: don't have a job. So like I'm there, I'll go

758
00:32:23,986 --> 00:32:26,826
Speaker 3: to play tomorrow. And I said Jason, I just nor

759
00:32:27,386 --> 00:32:29,586
Speaker 3: you know, really, you know, made me promise him wouldn't

760
00:32:29,586 --> 00:32:31,186
Speaker 3: take a job without calling him, like are you okay

761
00:32:31,226 --> 00:32:34,026
Speaker 3: if I call nor, which you know I was taking

762
00:32:34,026 --> 00:32:35,906
Speaker 3: a little bit of a leap of faith there, but

763
00:32:36,066 --> 00:32:39,346
Speaker 3: Jason played for North and loved North, and so Jason

764
00:32:39,386 --> 00:32:40,786
Speaker 3: was like, absolutely, give norm a call.

765
00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:42,506
Speaker 6: You got to do right by him, like let me

766
00:32:42,546 --> 00:32:43,186
Speaker 6: know what he says.

767
00:32:43,466 --> 00:32:45,386
Speaker 3: So, in like a thirty minute process, was on the

768
00:32:45,386 --> 00:32:48,026
Speaker 3: phone with Jason called nor and Norrah's like, nope, you're

769
00:32:48,066 --> 00:32:49,826
Speaker 3: coming to Minnesota Rix film and the gym is.

770
00:32:49,786 --> 00:32:50,866
Speaker 6: Going to call you in ten minutes.

771
00:32:51,026 --> 00:32:51,546
Speaker 3: You got a job.

772
00:32:51,586 --> 00:32:52,626
Speaker 6: We'll get you out here this week.

773
00:32:52,866 --> 00:32:54,946
Speaker 3: And I was like I went from like unemployment to

774
00:32:55,026 --> 00:32:57,506
Speaker 3: like two opportunities in twenty minutes and then had to

775
00:32:57,506 --> 00:32:59,706
Speaker 3: call Jason back. I was like, hey, Jason, I'm sorry,

776
00:32:59,706 --> 00:33:02,306
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I'm going to Minnesota with NORV Like

777
00:33:02,426 --> 00:33:03,866
Speaker 3: I didn't really think it was gonna happen like that.

778
00:33:03,906 --> 00:33:05,306
Speaker 6: This is my first time through the process.

779
00:33:05,346 --> 00:33:08,426
Speaker 3: And Jason was awesome, very understanding, but it was it

780
00:33:08,466 --> 00:33:10,066
Speaker 3: was a whirlin so yeah, one year and then ended

781
00:33:10,146 --> 00:33:12,146
Speaker 3: up in Minnesota there in twenty fourteen, and.

782
00:33:12,066 --> 00:33:14,386
Speaker 1: You're there for a bit. Is zim the coach when

783
00:33:14,386 --> 00:33:15,706
Speaker 1: you're there as the head coach.

784
00:33:15,746 --> 00:33:19,266
Speaker 3: It was Zim's first year in twenty fourteen, Norri's first year.

785
00:33:19,306 --> 00:33:20,386
Speaker 3: And then, you know, I've.

786
00:33:20,266 --> 00:33:20,786
Speaker 6: Told the story.

787
00:33:20,906 --> 00:33:22,626
Speaker 3: I got picked up at the airport to go sign

788
00:33:22,626 --> 00:33:25,026
Speaker 3: my contract and meet everybody. And the guy that I

789
00:33:25,066 --> 00:33:26,706
Speaker 3: got picked up, you know, and Opscott picked us up

790
00:33:26,826 --> 00:33:29,866
Speaker 3: was me. Jonathan Gannon and Evan Marcus all got picked

791
00:33:29,906 --> 00:33:31,066
Speaker 3: up in the car together. I didn't know any of

792
00:33:31,066 --> 00:33:33,026
Speaker 3: those guys at the time and worked together with them

793
00:33:33,026 --> 00:33:36,226
Speaker 3: for four years and stayed there in Minnesota for six.

794
00:33:36,466 --> 00:33:38,266
Speaker 1: Who the wide outs you're working with, because I look

795
00:33:38,306 --> 00:33:41,306
Speaker 1: at your that position group legendary history. Yet there might

796
00:33:41,346 --> 00:33:43,106
Speaker 1: have been some lulls as far as big name was.

797
00:33:43,146 --> 00:33:47,426
Speaker 1: It was post Moss, post Carter, pri Jefferson, so Feeling

798
00:33:47,546 --> 00:33:48,826
Speaker 1: Jerris right who were dealing with.

799
00:33:49,026 --> 00:33:50,426
Speaker 3: When I first got there. So I was in the

800
00:33:50,466 --> 00:33:52,426
Speaker 3: running back room my first year with Kirbie Wilson. He

801
00:33:52,466 --> 00:33:55,986
Speaker 3: had Adrian Peterson, we drafted Jack McKinnon, We had Jerome

802
00:33:56,026 --> 00:33:58,466
Speaker 3: felt and playing full back. And then the second year

803
00:33:58,506 --> 00:34:00,506
Speaker 3: I moved into the whiteout room. Jerryus was still there.

804
00:34:00,546 --> 00:34:03,506
Speaker 3: Greg Jennings I believe left the second year, Cordell Patterson,

805
00:34:03,906 --> 00:34:07,346
Speaker 3: Charles Johnson, we drafted Diggs and was still on the

806
00:34:07,346 --> 00:34:10,346
Speaker 3: practice squad at that time. Wow, and then stayed in that,

807
00:34:10,386 --> 00:34:11,706
Speaker 3: you know, and then my three years in that room

808
00:34:11,706 --> 00:34:15,626
Speaker 3: as an assistant, feeling became feeling obviously Diggs became Digs,

809
00:34:15,626 --> 00:34:16,906
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you had, you know, one

810
00:34:16,946 --> 00:34:18,346
Speaker 3: of the best receiver rooms in the NFL.

811
00:34:18,386 --> 00:34:20,746
Speaker 6: Again, Uh, just by nature of those two players.

812
00:34:20,986 --> 00:34:23,186
Speaker 1: Give me a good dig story that would sum up

813
00:34:23,226 --> 00:34:25,386
Speaker 1: young Stefan dis because he's a fifth round pick. He's

814
00:34:25,386 --> 00:34:27,226
Speaker 1: not a guy in a first round calibers some of

815
00:34:27,226 --> 00:34:29,666
Speaker 1: these other guys. And yet since he got on the field,

816
00:34:29,666 --> 00:34:30,466
Speaker 1: he's been making places.

817
00:34:30,666 --> 00:34:32,826
Speaker 3: And I think that his work ethic and his love

818
00:34:32,826 --> 00:34:34,586
Speaker 3: of the game of football and his just desire to

819
00:34:34,586 --> 00:34:36,626
Speaker 3: be great was unbelievable, Like I can.

820
00:34:36,626 --> 00:34:39,106
Speaker 6: Remember, And it was one of those I can't remember.

821
00:34:39,106 --> 00:34:41,026
Speaker 3: It was after practice, like we were not in the

822
00:34:41,026 --> 00:34:43,306
Speaker 3: building or like as players, like we weren't on the field,

823
00:34:43,506 --> 00:34:45,066
Speaker 3: and you walk in the indoor and the dude has

824
00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:47,666
Speaker 3: a like full lather, looks like he's been running one

825
00:34:47,746 --> 00:34:50,506
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty routes, and to the point where like

826
00:34:50,506 --> 00:34:52,786
Speaker 3: almost happened so consistently we had to stop we're like, dude,

827
00:34:52,826 --> 00:34:56,026
Speaker 3: you're gonna hurt yourself, like you're overworking, like you need

828
00:34:56,066 --> 00:34:57,986
Speaker 3: to slow down. And he was just one of those

829
00:34:57,986 --> 00:34:59,506
Speaker 3: guys like every time, as you said, every time he

830
00:34:59,586 --> 00:35:01,426
Speaker 3: touched the field, it was kind of those head turning

831
00:35:01,426 --> 00:35:04,146
Speaker 3: moments where you're like who was Like who was the

832
00:35:04,186 --> 00:35:06,306
Speaker 3: run that route? Like he just killed the top corner

833
00:35:06,546 --> 00:35:08,746
Speaker 3: scout team, Like he made unbelievable catch, and it was

834
00:35:08,786 --> 00:35:10,066
Speaker 3: like over and over and over again at the point

835
00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:11,666
Speaker 3: where like we got to put this guy on the field,

836
00:35:11,706 --> 00:35:14,066
Speaker 3: like because he was inactive for his first four or

837
00:35:14,106 --> 00:35:16,386
Speaker 3: five games I remember, and then somebody got hurt.

838
00:35:16,186 --> 00:35:16,986
Speaker 6: And he hit the field.

839
00:35:16,986 --> 00:35:18,546
Speaker 3: I think his first game was in Denver, the year

840
00:35:18,586 --> 00:35:20,666
Speaker 3: they had the year they won the Super Bowl. It

841
00:35:20,706 --> 00:35:22,186
Speaker 3: would have been the year they won the Super Bowl

842
00:35:22,426 --> 00:35:28,426
Speaker 3: with all the fifteen with Talib and Chris Harris and

843
00:35:28,466 --> 00:35:31,906
Speaker 3: they had another really good corner and Jackson maybe and

844
00:35:31,986 --> 00:35:33,666
Speaker 3: him and Dealing like went off like I think BIG's

845
00:35:33,706 --> 00:35:36,146
Speaker 3: had one hundred yards at Denver and it was like,

846
00:35:36,146 --> 00:35:38,186
Speaker 3: all right, he's not giving this job back, like he's

847
00:35:38,226 --> 00:35:40,026
Speaker 3: the guy, Like it's very clear.

848
00:35:40,386 --> 00:35:45,386
Speaker 1: That Minnesota miracle where were you take us take us through?

849
00:35:45,386 --> 00:35:47,346
Speaker 3: It was wild. I mean, I you know, it's you

850
00:35:47,426 --> 00:35:49,666
Speaker 3: never say the game's over. But a guy fell close

851
00:35:50,186 --> 00:35:53,426
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, the ball goes up and you're like,

852
00:35:53,466 --> 00:35:55,786
Speaker 3: all right, you know when he caught it and he

853
00:35:55,826 --> 00:35:57,266
Speaker 3: ran the ends on the place went nuts. But in

854
00:35:57,306 --> 00:35:59,146
Speaker 3: the booth, you're always like, is a flag down? He

855
00:35:59,186 --> 00:36:01,826
Speaker 3: didn't how much time is left? So like I don't

856
00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:04,106
Speaker 3: think we like nobody moved for a good like thirty

857
00:36:04,146 --> 00:36:07,186
Speaker 3: seconds to a minute as we kind of process what happened.

858
00:36:07,466 --> 00:36:09,546
Speaker 3: And then once everything was like it was, I mean,

859
00:36:09,586 --> 00:36:12,906
Speaker 3: it went it was like complete pandemonium, chaos. Like I

860
00:36:12,986 --> 00:36:14,306
Speaker 3: was down on the field by the time we took

861
00:36:14,346 --> 00:36:15,426
Speaker 3: the knee on the two point play.

862
00:36:15,426 --> 00:36:18,386
Speaker 6: I think, well, they brought everyone back.

863
00:36:18,546 --> 00:36:21,906
Speaker 1: Yes, Thomas Morriston had to come back.

864
00:36:21,946 --> 00:36:23,906
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, Like I still get the chills when

865
00:36:23,946 --> 00:36:25,826
Speaker 3: I see highlights of that player think about like it's

866
00:36:25,866 --> 00:36:27,306
Speaker 3: just it was such a cool moment to be a

867
00:36:27,346 --> 00:36:29,346
Speaker 3: part of, and I mean obviously unbelievable play on so

868
00:36:29,346 --> 00:36:30,146
Speaker 3: many levels.

869
00:36:30,506 --> 00:36:32,826
Speaker 1: I imagine you go as Stefanski because I see your

870
00:36:32,866 --> 00:36:35,106
Speaker 1: next job and the resume as you go to Cleveland

871
00:36:35,106 --> 00:36:37,106
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Stefanski gets the head gig

872
00:36:37,226 --> 00:36:38,946
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Does he call you up and say, Drew,

873
00:36:38,986 --> 00:36:39,666
Speaker 1: I need you buddy.

874
00:36:39,786 --> 00:36:42,146
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I worked with Kevin for nine years,

875
00:36:42,146 --> 00:36:44,266
Speaker 3: so we were together six in Minnesota and three in Cleveland.

876
00:36:44,346 --> 00:36:46,026
Speaker 3: Developed a great relationship with him. He was one of

877
00:36:46,026 --> 00:36:47,706
Speaker 3: those guys who brought me under his wing. And you know,

878
00:36:47,746 --> 00:36:49,626
Speaker 3: he had a young coach, got his first position job

879
00:36:49,626 --> 00:36:52,146
Speaker 3: there in Minnesota when I got there, and and just

880
00:36:52,186 --> 00:36:54,386
Speaker 3: taught me so much about the game, how to coach,

881
00:36:54,426 --> 00:36:56,906
Speaker 3: how to develop relationship with the players, the big picture

882
00:36:56,906 --> 00:36:59,706
Speaker 3: of the NFL. And so when he got that opportunity

883
00:36:59,706 --> 00:37:02,146
Speaker 3: and Zim was willing to let me have that opportunity

884
00:37:02,186 --> 00:37:03,946
Speaker 3: to go with him, I was special. You know, I

885
00:37:03,986 --> 00:37:05,986
Speaker 3: have a ton of respect for him and obviously oh

886
00:37:06,066 --> 00:37:07,866
Speaker 3: so much to him. So it was fun to be

887
00:37:07,906 --> 00:37:10,346
Speaker 3: a part of his first time doing it, running the show,

888
00:37:10,466 --> 00:37:13,226
Speaker 3: being in charge. It was awesome. All right.

889
00:37:13,306 --> 00:37:15,706
Speaker 1: Now, take us you go to Arizona with Gannon. Obviously

890
00:37:15,746 --> 00:37:17,706
Speaker 1: you had a history with him. Take us to the

891
00:37:17,786 --> 00:37:20,386
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs roller coaster before the season. I know you're

892
00:37:20,466 --> 00:37:24,666
Speaker 1: obviously intimately involved because of the Cleveland thing, and we'll

893
00:37:24,706 --> 00:37:27,306
Speaker 1: wrap shortly, but I got to hear how Dobbs ends

894
00:37:27,346 --> 00:37:29,346
Speaker 1: up in Arizona and you had to play some sort

895
00:37:29,346 --> 00:37:30,866
Speaker 1: of role because he was in Cleveland with you too.

896
00:37:30,986 --> 00:37:32,586
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I certainly had a relationship with him.

897
00:37:32,586 --> 00:37:34,746
Speaker 3: MANI our GM had him the last couple of games

898
00:37:34,746 --> 00:37:36,746
Speaker 3: there in Tennessee, and I think it's one of those

899
00:37:36,786 --> 00:37:38,546
Speaker 3: things that as an organization, we're always going to try

900
00:37:38,546 --> 00:37:40,626
Speaker 3: to make the team better in any little thing we

901
00:37:40,666 --> 00:37:42,346
Speaker 3: can do from a roster perspective in terms of the

902
00:37:42,346 --> 00:37:44,586
Speaker 3: way we operate. So it was like my job, and

903
00:37:44,626 --> 00:37:46,106
Speaker 3: I said this to it, was like, Hey, everybody in

904
00:37:46,106 --> 00:37:47,306
Speaker 3: that room, my job is to get you ready to

905
00:37:47,306 --> 00:37:49,346
Speaker 3: start in the NFL. And I think Moni came to

906
00:37:49,386 --> 00:37:51,666
Speaker 3: me somewhere during the you know, the end of training game,

907
00:37:51,706 --> 00:37:53,666
Speaker 3: say hey, I think this is an opportunity that may

908
00:37:53,666 --> 00:37:55,306
Speaker 3: be available to us. What are your thoughts on it?

909
00:37:55,346 --> 00:37:57,186
Speaker 3: How do you feel about the person the player? How

910
00:37:57,226 --> 00:37:58,626
Speaker 3: long will it take to get him ready if this

911
00:37:58,746 --> 00:38:00,666
Speaker 3: is the move? And I just kind of broke it down.

912
00:38:00,706 --> 00:38:02,946
Speaker 3: I said, look, the language is going to be early similar.

913
00:38:03,026 --> 00:38:05,586
Speaker 3: He's an extremely smart player, so I don't think there's

914
00:38:05,626 --> 00:38:08,106
Speaker 3: going to be like a long runway certainly.

915
00:38:07,866 --> 00:38:09,946
Speaker 6: Here the pros what he brings to the team here.

916
00:38:10,026 --> 00:38:11,906
Speaker 3: Obviously some of the issues of bringing him in ten

917
00:38:11,986 --> 00:38:14,186
Speaker 3: days before the season, but if that's the decision that

918
00:38:14,506 --> 00:38:16,226
Speaker 3: we choose an organization to think this gives us the

919
00:38:16,266 --> 00:38:18,146
Speaker 3: best chance, I know we can make it work. And

920
00:38:18,586 --> 00:38:20,146
Speaker 3: MONI did a great job and has done a great

921
00:38:20,186 --> 00:38:22,266
Speaker 3: job since I've been here, always trying to improve the

922
00:38:22,346 --> 00:38:24,546
Speaker 3: roster and always trying to make us competitive. So it's

923
00:38:25,026 --> 00:38:26,506
Speaker 3: it was one of those things he thought it was

924
00:38:26,506 --> 00:38:27,986
Speaker 3: best for the team. I certainly was on board, with

925
00:38:27,986 --> 00:38:30,186
Speaker 3: A JG obviously a big part of that. And he

926
00:38:30,226 --> 00:38:31,986
Speaker 3: got in here and hit the ground running very quickly,

927
00:38:32,026 --> 00:38:34,386
Speaker 3: and kudos to him because that's not an easy task.

928
00:38:34,826 --> 00:38:36,626
Speaker 1: I mean, that was unbelievable in itself. And then he

929
00:38:36,666 --> 00:38:38,826
Speaker 1: has a second chapter already with Minnesota. Have you reached

930
00:38:38,866 --> 00:38:40,186
Speaker 1: out to him at all and just said, hey, bro,

931
00:38:40,306 --> 00:38:42,506
Speaker 1: like I'm watching, like I know their rivals, but it's

932
00:38:42,506 --> 00:38:43,306
Speaker 1: been unbelievable.

933
00:38:43,426 --> 00:38:46,706
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so, we like when we obviously last week

934
00:38:46,746 --> 00:38:48,906
Speaker 3: when we lost to Cleveland was his first game playing

935
00:38:49,226 --> 00:38:51,146
Speaker 3: checked the stat line texted him right away was so

936
00:38:51,186 --> 00:38:53,426
Speaker 3: far up from him, and it's so far. I love

937
00:38:53,466 --> 00:38:55,666
Speaker 3: watching him play, love the energy he brings. He's obviously

938
00:38:55,866 --> 00:38:57,546
Speaker 3: done a great job for them, and I think, you know,

939
00:38:57,586 --> 00:38:59,186
Speaker 3: it really worked out for everybody. I think that's the

940
00:38:59,506 --> 00:39:00,946
Speaker 3: when when you can have a win win like that,

941
00:39:00,986 --> 00:39:02,666
Speaker 3: it's it's always a good situation.

942
00:39:02,586 --> 00:39:04,786
Speaker 1: All right. And now back to the Cardinals wrapping it

943
00:39:04,866 --> 00:39:07,746
Speaker 1: up with this Kyler Honors back on the field, We've

944
00:39:07,786 --> 00:39:10,506
Speaker 1: got all these young wide receivers Ron Dill and of

945
00:39:10,546 --> 00:39:13,066
Speaker 1: course Marquis and then I'm loving what I'm seeing this

946
00:39:13,146 --> 00:39:15,786
Speaker 1: kid Michael Wilson, and then Trey McBride, the tight end

947
00:39:15,826 --> 00:39:17,626
Speaker 1: who took a little while in his career to get going,

948
00:39:17,786 --> 00:39:20,986
Speaker 1: is now a real factor. So much young talent. And

949
00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:23,306
Speaker 1: then you have the number six overall pick in Johnson

950
00:39:23,386 --> 00:39:26,426
Speaker 1: playing well on offensive line like this. If you're a

951
00:39:26,506 --> 00:39:27,946
Speaker 1: viewer at home and you don't watch a lot of

952
00:39:27,986 --> 00:39:30,426
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals football, what would be your message to them,

953
00:39:30,426 --> 00:39:31,986
Speaker 1: but what they can expect for the second half of

954
00:39:31,986 --> 00:39:32,346
Speaker 1: the season.

955
00:39:32,466 --> 00:39:33,906
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's where you hit on early. And

956
00:39:34,066 --> 00:39:35,746
Speaker 3: as we were talking, it's the effort and energy we

957
00:39:35,746 --> 00:39:37,586
Speaker 3: play with. I think that's got to be our calling card.

958
00:39:37,626 --> 00:39:39,426
Speaker 3: Is we have to outwork people, we have to out

959
00:39:39,426 --> 00:39:41,226
Speaker 3: effort people. We have to play with an energy and

960
00:39:41,226 --> 00:39:43,786
Speaker 3: an enthusiasm that people aren't either capable or willing to

961
00:39:43,786 --> 00:39:47,066
Speaker 3: match consistently, regardless score, regardless of outcome. So I think

962
00:39:47,106 --> 00:39:49,026
Speaker 3: that's what we want to have. The guys have fum

963
00:39:49,066 --> 00:39:51,066
Speaker 3: playing football and going out there and enjoying what they're

964
00:39:51,106 --> 00:39:52,346
Speaker 3: doing and doing at a high level, and I think

965
00:39:52,346 --> 00:39:53,946
Speaker 3: they're seeing that from the young guys in the locker room,

966
00:39:54,026 --> 00:39:56,546
Speaker 3: really from everybody. I think the team's really embrace that attitude,

967
00:39:56,586 --> 00:39:58,266
Speaker 3: that energy, and it's fun to be a part of

968
00:39:58,506 --> 00:40:00,386
Speaker 3: and it keeps you competitive, it keeps you in games.

969
00:40:00,706 --> 00:40:02,306
Speaker 3: And we got to do a little bit more and

970
00:40:02,346 --> 00:40:03,906
Speaker 3: a little bit better to win some of these games

971
00:40:03,906 --> 00:40:06,306
Speaker 3: and to turn the time. But I think everybody feels

972
00:40:06,346 --> 00:40:07,826
Speaker 3: like it is really close, and I think that's where

973
00:40:07,866 --> 00:40:09,586
Speaker 3: the buying and the energy and the effort comes from.

974
00:40:09,746 --> 00:40:10,786
Speaker 6: And we just got to keep it going.

975
00:40:11,346 --> 00:40:13,946
Speaker 1: And Kyler he's been his exceeded expectations from what it

976
00:40:13,946 --> 00:40:14,346
Speaker 1: sounds like.

977
00:40:14,426 --> 00:40:15,266
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been awesome.

978
00:40:15,346 --> 00:40:17,026
Speaker 3: I can't say enough about him as a player, as

979
00:40:17,026 --> 00:40:17,986
Speaker 3: a person, as a teammate.

980
00:40:18,426 --> 00:40:19,946
Speaker 6: He's been extremely fun to work with.

981
00:40:20,186 --> 00:40:21,906
Speaker 3: I was so fired up for him and so proud

982
00:40:21,906 --> 00:40:23,226
Speaker 3: of him just to watch him go out there and

983
00:40:23,426 --> 00:40:25,746
Speaker 3: do what I know he's capable of, and certainly he

984
00:40:25,786 --> 00:40:27,466
Speaker 3: knows he's capable of, but it's always fun when you

985
00:40:27,466 --> 00:40:28,586
Speaker 3: get to put it on that stage.

986
00:40:28,826 --> 00:40:30,986
Speaker 1: Did you see the sky cam angle yet that they.

987
00:40:30,826 --> 00:40:31,866
Speaker 6: Did everything about it?

988
00:40:31,906 --> 00:40:34,586
Speaker 3: Obviously, that play was all coaching, right team. Everybody was sorry,

989
00:40:34,866 --> 00:40:35,826
Speaker 3: good job by you.

990
00:40:35,826 --> 00:40:38,626
Speaker 1: You told him do a pirouett and run.

991
00:40:38,746 --> 00:40:40,906
Speaker 3: I mean that's what he's I mean, he's so like

992
00:40:41,026 --> 00:40:43,746
Speaker 3: it was. It's unbelievable. I mean it's a game saving play.

993
00:40:43,786 --> 00:40:45,666
Speaker 3: I mean it's third and ten. To go make that

994
00:40:45,666 --> 00:40:48,346
Speaker 3: play in that situation, very few people were capable of

995
00:40:48,346 --> 00:40:50,346
Speaker 3: doing that. So it was just so fired up for him,

996
00:40:50,386 --> 00:40:52,706
Speaker 3: for us obviously, and it was it was fun to

997
00:40:52,706 --> 00:40:53,586
Speaker 3: watch him go do that.

998
00:40:54,106 --> 00:40:56,706
Speaker 1: I end every interview with the same question, and it

999
00:40:56,786 --> 00:40:59,186
Speaker 1: was Nick Cassario was on last week and I said,

1000
00:40:59,226 --> 00:41:01,666
Speaker 1: if you were at the combine and a twenty something

1001
00:41:01,746 --> 00:41:03,546
Speaker 1: year old guy comes up and he's got an ill fooded,

1002
00:41:03,626 --> 00:41:06,066
Speaker 1: ill fitting suit and he's got the Manila folder with

1003
00:41:06,106 --> 00:41:09,626
Speaker 1: like a may but it's just like college accolades and says,

1004
00:41:09,866 --> 00:41:11,266
Speaker 1: I want to get in the NFL, and you have

1005
00:41:11,306 --> 00:41:15,746
Speaker 1: one elevator ride twenty seconds. Let's put yourself in that

1006
00:41:15,826 --> 00:41:18,506
Speaker 1: Indianapolis situation. You got all the team gear on, you

1007
00:41:18,546 --> 00:41:20,706
Speaker 1: got the Cardinals stuff, and you just happen to be

1008
00:41:20,746 --> 00:41:22,066
Speaker 1: in with a kid, and he kind of has the

1009
00:41:22,106 --> 00:41:24,786
Speaker 1: courage to ask, Hey, Drew, I know you're in your

1010
00:41:24,786 --> 00:41:26,666
Speaker 1: mid thirties and I'm in my early twenties, but like,

1011
00:41:26,746 --> 00:41:28,426
Speaker 1: what would be your one piece of advice for getting

1012
00:41:28,426 --> 00:41:28,946
Speaker 1: in the league.

1013
00:41:29,066 --> 00:41:31,546
Speaker 6: Yeah, to be willing to do whatever it takes.

1014
00:41:31,626 --> 00:41:34,066
Speaker 3: Be willing to take any opportunity, no matter how small,

1015
00:41:34,146 --> 00:41:35,746
Speaker 3: no matter what building it in, no matter what the

1016
00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:38,146
Speaker 3: role is, and do a really good job at it.

1017
00:41:38,186 --> 00:41:40,906
Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter what that role is, embrace it,

1018
00:41:40,946 --> 00:41:43,786
Speaker 3: be the best at it, and develop great relationships as

1019
00:41:43,826 --> 00:41:45,586
Speaker 3: you go in that role. You know, the way that

1020
00:41:45,626 --> 00:41:47,946
Speaker 3: you connect with people, the way that you interact with

1021
00:41:47,986 --> 00:41:50,026
Speaker 3: any building that you get into, regardless of what they're

1022
00:41:50,026 --> 00:41:52,506
Speaker 3: asking you do, I think is so important to your

1023
00:41:52,546 --> 00:41:53,346
Speaker 3: overall goal.

1024
00:41:53,186 --> 00:41:54,786
Speaker 6: Of getting into the NFL and continue to.

1025
00:41:54,746 --> 00:41:58,986
Speaker 1: Make it true. This is awesome. Drew Petsing, offensive coordinator

1026
00:41:59,106 --> 00:42:03,386
Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, fun young offense mid season. I

1027
00:42:03,466 --> 00:42:05,146
Speaker 1: understand there's a million things you've got to be doing.

1028
00:42:05,146 --> 00:42:06,746
Speaker 1: You got to be in the lab cooking and getting

1029
00:42:06,786 --> 00:42:09,186
Speaker 1: Kyler going. But I so appreciate you taking twenty minutes

1030
00:42:09,226 --> 00:42:11,706
Speaker 1: to hop on the podcast. It's a real pleasure for Rostt.

1031
00:42:11,826 --> 00:42:13,466
Speaker 6: Yeah, appreciate you guys. Thanks a lot for having me.

1032
00:42:13,506 --> 00:42:16,026
Speaker 1: I was really juice to be on awesome stuff. Drew Pettsing,

1033
00:42:16,106 --> 00:42:18,706
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator of the Cardinals. Good luck this weekend, man,

1034
00:42:18,866 --> 00:42:24,986
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. I didn't know how he would take it.

1035
00:42:25,066 --> 00:42:29,026
Speaker 1: Drew Petsing's thirty four, Aaron thirty six? Isn't he thirty six?

1036
00:42:29,186 --> 00:42:29,986
Speaker 2: I think he's thirty six.

1037
00:42:30,026 --> 00:42:32,426
Speaker 1: I know he's younger than me. He's in his thirties,

1038
00:42:32,466 --> 00:42:33,266
Speaker 1: like super young.

1039
00:42:33,346 --> 00:42:33,866
Speaker 2: Thirty six.

1040
00:42:33,986 --> 00:42:36,546
Speaker 1: Yeah, very impressive.

1041
00:42:37,266 --> 00:42:39,746
Speaker 2: I always love when, like a coach or a coordinator

1042
00:42:40,106 --> 00:42:42,586
Speaker 2: comes from one side of the ball and then moves

1043
00:42:42,626 --> 00:42:47,426
Speaker 2: to the other. True other than Matt Patricia, but other than.

1044
00:42:47,346 --> 00:42:50,146
Speaker 1: That, relate in life. I remember what back in the day,

1045
00:42:50,226 --> 00:42:52,706
Speaker 1: the Eagles were rolling and they had a guy named

1046
00:42:53,266 --> 00:42:56,466
Speaker 1: Juan Castillo who was their offensive line. Coaches like peak

1047
00:42:56,506 --> 00:43:00,306
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, like dream team Eagles, and then they moved

1048
00:43:00,346 --> 00:43:03,586
Speaker 1: him the defensive coordinator, and like it does, sometimes doesn't work.

1049
00:43:04,386 --> 00:43:06,186
Speaker 1: Drew was early enough in his career where he went

1050
00:43:06,186 --> 00:43:08,986
Speaker 1: from defense to offense. You think about those mentors North

1051
00:43:09,026 --> 00:43:11,626
Speaker 1: Turner and then like Stefanski, I look at us a

1052
00:43:11,666 --> 00:43:13,986
Speaker 1: peer because the fancy's my age. He's early forties and

1053
00:43:14,266 --> 00:43:16,706
Speaker 1: he's like I really looked up to Stefanski, and it's like,

1054
00:43:17,106 --> 00:43:19,506
Speaker 1: there's young guns coming and thirty six years old. I

1055
00:43:19,546 --> 00:43:22,906
Speaker 1: know mcveigh's thirty six as well, and you've got guys

1056
00:43:22,906 --> 00:43:24,946
Speaker 1: who are in their thirties all across the league, but

1057
00:43:25,626 --> 00:43:27,466
Speaker 1: Drew's one of them. And I kind of liked the

1058
00:43:27,506 --> 00:43:29,946
Speaker 1: fact he didn't He didn't necessarily play at Ohio State,

1059
00:43:30,106 --> 00:43:33,026
Speaker 1: he didn't play at Penn State. He was hurt his

1060
00:43:33,106 --> 00:43:36,306
Speaker 1: sophomore year at Middlebury and was like, screw it, I'm

1061
00:43:36,346 --> 00:43:40,266
Speaker 1: not giving this dream up. Drew pat sing that was cool.

1062
00:43:40,666 --> 00:43:42,826
Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if the Arizona Cardinals are

1063
00:43:42,906 --> 00:43:45,266
Speaker 1: the top of the conversation right now, but I thought

1064
00:43:45,266 --> 00:43:47,426
Speaker 1: what they did on Sunday was awesome, beating the Falcons

1065
00:43:47,426 --> 00:43:49,506
Speaker 1: and seeing Kyler back. So I thought that was really cool,

1066
00:43:49,786 --> 00:43:51,506
Speaker 1: and thank you for Drew for doing it and for

1067
00:43:51,546 --> 00:43:55,146
Speaker 1: the Cardinals organization. Real quick way off topic, and you

1068
00:43:55,146 --> 00:43:57,266
Speaker 1: could turn it off if you don't like the off

1069
00:43:57,266 --> 00:44:01,666
Speaker 1: topic stuff. I won't be insulted. Travis Kelsey was in

1070
00:44:01,826 --> 00:44:05,146
Speaker 1: Argentina this weekend. He was in Germany. The weekend before that.

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Speaker 1: He is on his by Max out with Taylor Swift

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Speaker 1: on Camroach was romantic and hot and steamy. She'd changed

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Speaker 1: the lyrics songs Karma to talk about the Kans City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs tight end. We're recording this on Tuesday. He's back

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City, he's back at practice, and we just

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00:44:26,866 --> 00:44:30,306
Speaker 1: posed the question to Scott Pioli, the ex Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs GM, what his thoughts were about a player going

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Speaker 1: to Argentina, you know, and he answered it like I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't think twice about it. It's Kelsey's thirty four. Like

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00:44:39,946 --> 00:44:43,706
Speaker 1: Scott's answer was right, He's earned it. Like whatever. The

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00:44:43,826 --> 00:44:47,666
Speaker 1: fact that we asked it on Good Morning Football, We're

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Speaker 1: getting hundreds of tweets from Chiefs fans like super triggered,

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00:44:51,746 --> 00:44:54,306
Speaker 1: like how dare you question it? Like it's his off week?

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Speaker 1: Is that I think it's this story has been kind

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Speaker 1: of a rollercoaster, and now it's like Chiefs fans are

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00:45:00,506 --> 00:45:03,306
Speaker 1: super defensive about it, even questioning it, and I think

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00:45:03,306 --> 00:45:05,426
Speaker 1: people are looking at Kelsey and I know Bill Simmons's

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00:45:05,506 --> 00:45:09,226
Speaker 1: questioning like all right, even I on Monday's show was like,

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00:45:10,026 --> 00:45:12,666
Speaker 1: all right, say it. I went to Mexico for my

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00:45:12,866 --> 00:45:15,986
Speaker 1: tie is one thing. Gosh, she was at Mahomes's charity

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00:45:15,986 --> 00:45:19,066
Speaker 1: event on Thursdays in Argentina's week, like it is something

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Speaker 1: to track. I have no opinion on it. I love Travis,

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00:45:21,746 --> 00:45:23,946
Speaker 1: as I've mentioned multiple times here. We have a great

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00:45:23,986 --> 00:45:26,586
Speaker 1: relationship and he's truly in love right now and it's

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00:45:26,586 --> 00:45:29,586
Speaker 1: cool and it hasn't stopped them. They're the first place team.

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00:45:30,146 --> 00:45:33,066
Speaker 1: I'm wondering when this thing turns and I see the

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00:45:33,106 --> 00:45:37,426
Speaker 1: chief schedule gets complicated coming up, Aaron your thoughts and

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00:45:37,466 --> 00:45:41,586
Speaker 1: he might attract the venom of the Taylor Swift hive,

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Speaker 1: So I would be careful with what you say because

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Speaker 1: it's not just a Taylor Swift.

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00:45:44,986 --> 00:45:46,106
Speaker 2: Time right, it's the Chief.

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00:45:46,826 --> 00:45:50,026
Speaker 1: It's more vocal, like f off, don't even question this love.

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Speaker 2: And to just to be clear too, you're saying he's

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Speaker 2: in Germany the week before, he's in Germany for the game.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't traveling. It's not like he was there to

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Speaker 2: see her concert and then went to Argentina. So he

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00:46:00,666 --> 00:46:01,906
Speaker 2: was there for the game and then they have the

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00:46:01,946 --> 00:46:06,026
Speaker 2: bye week again. Travis Kelsey is thirty four. He is

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Speaker 2: not first year quarterback whose team is struggling. I actually

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Speaker 2: have no problem with him going to Argentina to watch

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00:46:12,786 --> 00:46:15,946
Speaker 2: the concert. I thought the video of him standing there,

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00:46:15,986 --> 00:46:18,866
Speaker 2: I think it's with her dad when when when the

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00:46:18,986 --> 00:46:21,826
Speaker 2: lyric is changed and it's like it doesn't register for

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00:46:21,906 --> 00:46:23,786
Speaker 2: him right away and his dad, Oh my, I can't

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Speaker 2: believe I'm sitting here talking about it.

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Speaker 3: It was a.

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Speaker 2: Concert and his dad is like so excited for him.

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Speaker 2: I'm like grabbing Travis. So I love that.

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Speaker 6: That was nice.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we we hear all these stories about like, oh,

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00:46:38,066 --> 00:46:40,426
Speaker 2: Taylor was at the Chiefs game and she had to

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00:46:40,466 --> 00:46:45,106
Speaker 2: get snuck out in the popcorn movie. Instead, this was

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Speaker 2: her running off stage. He's standing right there and she

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00:46:47,986 --> 00:46:50,426
Speaker 2: embraces him. You know what, call me a sucker. And

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Speaker 2: this is like the one Harry met Sally moment. But

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Speaker 2: I'm all for it. Great, good for him. I think

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00:46:55,786 --> 00:46:56,266
Speaker 2: it's great.

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Speaker 1: It was beautiful. I'm not kidding, like I loved it.

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00:46:59,386 --> 00:47:03,226
Speaker 1: I thought it was beautiful and sweet and everything was

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00:47:03,266 --> 00:47:05,986
Speaker 1: great about it. I hope they don't lose three straight

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00:47:06,026 --> 00:47:10,066
Speaker 1: and Kel's he starts like dropping past this man. It's

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Speaker 1: going well for now, dude, I love it. One more thing.

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Speaker 1: I got a call early this morning from my friend Chris,

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Speaker 1: who listens to the podcast and says he does a

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Speaker 1: four mile walk every morning, from like five to seven

1136
00:47:27,026 --> 00:47:29,546
Speaker 1: walks around Manhattan. I think he's like in Central Park

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00:47:29,626 --> 00:47:32,346
Speaker 1: and he gets where he clears his head. And Aaron,

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Speaker 1: he was ecstatic to share with me how much he enjoys,

1139
00:47:36,586 --> 00:47:39,826
Speaker 1: not me, not the music that we do, not the topics,

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Speaker 1: not the guests. He's like, I love your co host.

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00:47:44,386 --> 00:47:46,906
Speaker 1: He's like, he's great. He's got a great demeanor, he's

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Speaker 1: got a great approach.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, use his words like dowur Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, hell yeah, Aaron's the man. And he's like

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Speaker 1: from like the the non Shrigger part of Brooklyn, where

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00:47:56,946 --> 00:47:58,866
Speaker 1: I don't even know where you live. And I love

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00:47:58,906 --> 00:48:01,906
Speaker 1: that about you. You come in with a completely different viewpoint,

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00:48:01,986 --> 00:48:05,426
Speaker 1: a completely different style. You're of a different generation, and gosh,

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Speaker 1: you and I were making right here.

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Speaker 2: Dude, may Well. I appreciate it, and thank you to

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Speaker 2: him too, And I mean, I uh that that just

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Speaker 2: makes me jealous that I didn't go for a nice

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Speaker 2: long walk this morning.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't It sounds great?

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Speaker 2: Perfect.

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Speaker 1: that's the podcast. We start off with some celebration over

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Speaker 1: the Texans and the Broncos, a little news with Ken

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Speaker 1: Dorsey getting fired, Little ravens lamenting, and then we walk

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Speaker 1: that path and we hear from Drew Petsing, who got

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Speaker 1: the most out of Kyler Murray that we've seen in

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Speaker 1: twelve months because Kyler's been recovering from that ACL. I've

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Speaker 1: been asked by a lot of this listeners over Twitter

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Speaker 1: and over email whether we are going to be at

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. We do not know yet. We don't

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Speaker 1: have a word on that. We hope to be. If not,

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Speaker 1: we will still do shows throughout the playoffs. Let's just

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Speaker 1: say here the season with Peter Scheger with a shirtless

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Speaker 1: Aaron Wang Kaufman running around the Vegas Strip, then going

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Speaker 1: and performing karaoke, singing some song none of us have

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Speaker 1: heard from a show tune from like Oklahoma is gonna

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Speaker 1: be epic if we can get there.

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Speaker 2: And then doing only Taylor Swift songs, replacing lyrics with

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelce.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right, that's what, yeah, exactly right. And then you

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Speaker 1: and I will go to like a club. We'll go

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Speaker 1: to like Delilah, and it'll be like the hot Spot,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get paparazzi to take photos of us

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Speaker 1: walking amidst all the NFL celebrities and elites, and maybe

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Speaker 1: Scott Swift will like wear a Chief slanyard and like

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Speaker 1: kind of put his arm around the two of us.

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Speaker 1: Scott Swift content when we're talking about Taylor Swift's dad,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm here for it. On behalf of Aaron On,

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Speaker 1: behalf of Jason English, the man from iHeart who is awesome,

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Speaker 1: and on behalf of all the different folks who work

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Speaker 1: on this show. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back next week with another one.

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