1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks insiders. Gino, look go waying. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: Up over the top. 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 3: Got a man out there, it is, he's got a touchdown. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 4: Sey Hawks getting you ready for Seahawks football every Sunday. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: First and ten at the Seattle forty. Play fake the 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: staffer gonna stop, gonna look, gets it, goes down tucking midfield. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 5: Getting to him in the backfield is Darryl Taylor. 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 4: Presented by Delta, the official airline of the Seahawks. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Jen Mueller. 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 5: The Week one regular season matchup between the Seahawks and 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 5: the Rams is so close you can almost see it 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 5: on the calendar, John Boyle, it is exciting. Or maybe 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 5: I'm making too much of this little kind of off 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 5: week by week zero week. 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: What are we calling it these days? 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 4: It's like the preseason by I don't know what we 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: call it, but I'm gonna say you. 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Actually can see it on the calendar. Not almost. 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 5: Well, it depends on how far you're looking on the calendar, John, 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 5: And sometimes I just go day by day. 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: All right, Well, you take it one day at a time. 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: I'm looking at calendar that's already got September on it, 23 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 4: and I see September tenth versus La Rams. 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 5: It's gonna be fun, I know, and I can't wait 25 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 5: to dive into that matchup. But that's actually for a 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 5: conversation that's happening in the future. Right now, we're just 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 5: gonna recap what we saw in the preseason, what that 28 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 5: fifty three man roster looks like, and John, I gotta 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 5: be honest, it could be a fairly boring conversation, like, hey, 30 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 5: so the usual no, Hey, wait a minute, was that 31 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 5: a shot at me at as? 32 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: I think that's too soon. 34 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I meant there was no trauma in the decision 35 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 5: making for the Seahawks, because I think when final cuts 36 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 5: came out, I don't know. 37 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: That there were any surprises, not really. 38 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 4: I mean maybe that we didn't really know the verity 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: of some of the more recent injuries. So I think 40 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: a lot of people thought Joey Blunt would be on 41 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: this team. Unfortunately, he did end up on getting waived 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: with an injury designation, which, for those who don't pay 43 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 4: attention to the roster minuitia, that means he will revert 44 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: to injured reserve after he clears waivers. 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: Assuming he clears waivers. 46 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: I yeah, and I think it is interesting what happens 47 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: at the dB spot. I mean, you got to figure 48 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 5: out how you're gonna get all those guys on the field. 49 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 5: You got to figure out where spoon is in it. 50 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 5: I will say my only and I'm not even gonna 51 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: say surprise, the name of interest to me was Jerrick Reid. 52 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 53 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 5: I we had talked about him as a draft pick 54 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 5: and a little bit in the preseason, but I would 55 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: say it was the six tackles in the preseason finale 56 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: that helped to secure his role, because I don't know 57 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: that he flashed as much prior to that last game. 58 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 59 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: I mean he was a guy that we heard, you know, 60 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: scouts rave about. John Shyer kind of singled him out 61 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 4: as one of those you know, late round guys they 62 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 4: were very excited about. And then not that he was 63 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: bad in the preseason in training camp, but he just 64 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: didn't really flash a lot. And then that last game 65 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 4: in Green Bay, that second half when he was playing 66 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: a much, he looks fantastic, had I think two tackles 67 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 4: for lost bunch of tackles, and you know, we always 68 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: try to say, you know, it doesn't all come down 69 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: in the final preseason game. It's, you know, a month 70 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: body of work. But for him, I do think that 71 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: really helped his cause late well. 72 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 5: And I also think the other thing was the storylines 73 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 5: we were focused on in that dB room, right, And 74 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 5: let me be clear, the coaches and scouts have been 75 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 5: evaluating him the entire time, but the storylines that were 76 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 5: dominating that position had nothing to do with him. It 77 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 5: was all about cornerbacks exactly. Nickel Kobe playing safety. Did 78 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 5: you see enough of Kobe Bryant at safety in the 79 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 5: preseason to feel comfortable if he was out there in 80 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 5: the regular season. 81 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean I think you know he's 82 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: going to grow with that position. 83 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: But if you talk about the talent he has, the 84 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: playmaking skills, as he learns a position more, he could 85 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: be really good back there. I mean, obviously they've got 86 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: the starters they love, so you hope you don't need 87 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: him there. And I think a big part of Kobe 88 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: bryanch Valley this year is going to be they're still 89 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 4: using him at nickel. They still see him as a 90 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: guy can play outside if they need him to, so 91 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: he gives them. It's you know, there's certain players it's 92 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: almost like stealing a roster spot when you feel like, Okay, 93 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 4: this guy can play all these different positions and be 94 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: a good special teams player, even if he's not a starter, 95 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 4: and you know, he's still in the mix and nickel 96 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: by the way, but even if he's not a starter, 97 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: he's playing and he's helping you in a lot of ways. 98 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: You know. 99 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 5: The one thing that Clint Hurt said was he is 100 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 5: such a smart player, and he is able to adapt 101 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 5: to so many things. You wish you could keep him 102 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 5: at one spot. And that's one of the things that 103 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: he said in a production meaning it's like, man, you 104 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 5: wish you could just see him excel at one spot 105 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 5: because he could be so so good. 106 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: He's already so good at what he does. 107 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 5: But it'll be interesting to kind of see where that 108 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 5: shakes out in the time between now and week one. 109 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 5: I don't know if the question is what's your confidence 110 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 5: level that they get the right four on the field. 111 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: Or five dB maybe even six. Right, there's a lot 112 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: of options there. 113 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 5: Do you think you have a good idea as to 114 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 5: that who those combinations will be. 115 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to say, because the big thing right 116 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: now we don't know how seing Devin Withishman is going 117 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 4: to be back. You know, at this point, maybe it's 118 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 4: a tough ass to have him on the field week 119 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 4: one if he's not able to practice right now. That 120 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 4: the kind of the plan Pe Carroll outlined last week 121 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: was getting back and walk throughs this week and maybe 122 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: practicing next week. So I think if he's not out there, 123 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: it's a little more clear how it looks. 124 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: Look. 125 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: I think we all think Trey Brown might be a 126 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: little head of left quarterback right now. But I wouldn't 127 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: count Mike Jackson out there either, So there's still some 128 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: competition going on there. So long long way to say no, 129 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 4: I don't feel confident in my guess. 130 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: Should have just started with that. 131 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 5: You bring up something though, that I do think it's important. 132 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 5: There's a lot of recency bias that happens in the preseason, 133 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 5: so we are really focused on the guys that we 134 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: have seen on the field, like right now, immediately the 135 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 5: view of how this fits together changes going into week one. 136 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: You know, you didn't see the starters working together right 137 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 5: There is something about the chemistry and how things all 138 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 5: work together. So let's just keep in mind again they're 139 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 5: being scouted they're being coached, they're being looked at in 140 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 5: so many different ways. 141 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, they're going off a lot more than preseasons 142 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: for sure. 143 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 5: However, one of the stand ups you talk about stealing 144 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 5: a roster spot, I'm not gonna say that Jake Bobo 145 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 5: stole anything other than the show because we have been 146 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 5: talking about this guy for a long time and it's 147 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 5: not just us, it's actually his teammates, both on offense 148 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 5: and defense. 149 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 6: I think it speaks to the type of person he is, 150 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 6: the competitor is. I think it was funny because you know, 151 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 6: the the more bubble thing kind of start happening in 152 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 6: Oca's and you know, guys were like, oh, well, wait 153 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 6: till the past come on. And then it started happening 154 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 6: when the past came on, and oh it's wait to 155 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 6: the game. And then you know, each each moment or 156 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 6: each challenge he got faced with, he just stepped up 157 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 6: to the play more and more and did a really 158 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 6: really good job. So you know, I'm happy for him, 159 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 6: excited for him. Like you said, you've seen a lot 160 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 6: of people come and do this, and it's you know, 161 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 6: pretty awesome because again I don't know that experience, but 162 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 6: you know, you think you're gonna get drafted, you don't 163 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 6: get drafted. Then you come in here not knowing whether 164 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 6: or not you're gonna be on the team. But you 165 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 6: work as hard as you can and you make it. 166 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 6: And so you know, now it's you know, what do 167 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 6: you do with the opportunity. 168 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 7: I was so excited for Jake, you know, just saying 169 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 7: I mean thinking about back in OTAs in mini camp 170 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 7: when he was making all those plays and everyone was like, Okay, 171 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 7: what is he gonna do? You know when we put 172 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 7: the pads on, and you know, everything we've seen from 173 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 7: Bobo is you know what he is, man, He's been 174 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 7: making plays, He gets separation, he gets open, catches the ball. Uh, 175 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 7: and he's just been a great player for us. And 176 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 7: so I'm excited for him. I know it was a 177 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 7: big moment for him and looking forward to you know, 178 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 7: him growing and getting better. 179 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: That is Bobby Wagner and Gino Smith raving about the 180 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: undrafted rookie. 181 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 1: Look, I'm not gonna lie. I was a little skeptical 182 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: early on. I thought, you know, he's making the plays and. 183 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: The OTAs and all that, but you're like, it's hard 184 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: to get over the speed thing you just think, Okay, 185 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 4: can that speed or lack there off work in the NFL? 186 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: And when you're looking at it as you know you've 187 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: got At the time, we didn't know about the suspension 188 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: d Skridge And when all the receivers are healthy, it's like, 189 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: does he play enough special teams to get that last 190 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: roster spot? But now depend on what happens with Jackson 191 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: Smith and Jigmuan and we can talk about that in 192 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: a second. 193 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: But if he's not available week one. 194 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: Bobo's probably your number three receiver, which means he's not 195 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 4: just on the team, he's playing significant, meaningful snaps getting 196 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: the ball thrown his way. And it's just such a 197 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: cool story and it's fun to see a guy that 198 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 4: again you e don't think, ah, he's too slow, that 199 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: can't work. Like he's shown that if you do everything 200 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: else right, you can compensate for those things. 201 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 5: The one thing I will say about the speed is 202 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 5: very rarely are you running in a straight line without 203 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 5: some sort. 204 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 2: Of obstacle in your way to come to overcome right. 205 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 5: Like I understand why we get caught up in what 206 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 5: the forty times are in the combine. It is one 207 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 5: of the ways that you evaluate talent because you don't 208 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 5: have anything else in front of you. 209 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: But you go back to the speed thing. 210 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: I don't notice the speed thing on the field because 211 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 5: what I do notice is his strength and his size 212 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: and the way that he has created separation and made cause. 213 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 4: I just say, it's not like you know, sometimes you 214 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 4: think slow receiver, it's always going to make all these 215 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: contested catches because he can't get open a lot of 216 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: these big places he's had, He's got wide open because 217 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 4: he knows how to run routes well. 218 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: He knows how to you know, you find spots on zone. 219 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: So it's he's It's clear that for a rookie, he 220 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: has a really good grasp both on the offense and 221 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: just understanding the way defenses play well. 222 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 5: He also has size working to his advantage when he 223 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 5: stands next to DK Metcalf. Now totally different body types, 224 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 5: but big bodies that are out there doing things. And 225 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 5: I will say this, I know that there were a 226 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 5: lot of people that had their doubts as to what 227 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 5: his spot on the team was gonna be. I talked 228 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: to some of those wide receivers early on and I 229 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 5: kind of said, hey, what do you think and they 230 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 5: just looked at me and said, he's making the team. 231 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 5: I mean, this was before injuries. This was before anything happened. 232 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 5: The guys in that wide receiver room felt really good 233 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 5: about what they'd see, and now the Seahawks feel really 234 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 5: good about seeing Jackson Smith and Jigba back on the field. 235 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 5: I mean, Pete Carroll is so optimistic that sometimes you 236 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 5: have to guard against getting your host. 237 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 4: You can't take it with a grain of salt when 238 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: Pete's optimistic injuries, because Pete's optimistic about life. 239 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: Life frank, which is awesome and I love that. 240 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 5: But when you see him on the field and the 241 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 5: quarterback is able to connect, well, it does give everybody 242 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 5: a lot of optimism moving forward. 243 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 7: It was great, you know, to see Jackson out there, 244 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 7: got some reps in today. He's a tough kid man, 245 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 7: and I think it's remarkable what he's doing. But we 246 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 7: love having him out there. Notice a differently and he 247 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 7: caught the ball or how he I mean, it's a 248 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 7: little different. You know, he's got a you know, big, 249 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 7: big little thing on his hand that obviously restricts him 250 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 7: a little bit. But he looked fine to me, So 251 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 7: you know, I'd love to see how he progresses and 252 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 7: how things go as uh, you know, the coming weeks ago. 253 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was great to see him out there. 254 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: You know, he's running around catching pass you know, I 255 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: would caution that doing that doesn't necessarily mean he's ready 256 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 4: for Week one. There's a big difference between catching balls 257 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: and an unpadded practice versus being able to take the 258 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: contact and all that. 259 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: But look, it's a great step in the right direction. 260 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: It's a sign that this hopefully is not a long 261 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 4: term thing, even if it does keep him out of 262 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: game or two or whatever it is. But yeah, I mean, 263 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 4: awesome to see him out there. You know, everybody loved 264 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 4: what they saw to him throughout camp in those first 265 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: two preseason games, so whenever they have him out there, 266 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: he makes the offense better. 267 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,359 Speaker 2: And I think it's more proof of his consistency. 268 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's what everybody's talked about, the way that he 269 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 5: treats his job as a pro, even though he's only 270 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 5: been a pro for a few months. 271 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: I think it's just more evidence of his consens And. 272 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 4: Pee Carroll said that on Saturday for the game, is like, 273 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: if anything, we're going to have to hold him back 274 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 4: because you know, He's going to want to be out 275 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 4: there doing everything as soon as he can. 276 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: Well. 277 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 5: Pete Carroll has had to hold back one of his 278 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 5: guys returning from a season ending injury at the end 279 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 5: of last year, Jordan Brooks. I know that he is 280 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 5: jumping at the bit to get back for Week one. 281 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 5: Bobby Wagner knows the talent. He also knows just the 282 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 5: dedication it's taken for Brooks to get this far. 283 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 6: To have an injury like that towards the later part 284 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 6: of the season and be able to, you know, work 285 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 6: your butt off and make it and you know, be 286 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 6: in a position that he's in. It has been amazing. It 287 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 6: shows how hard he's want to work and you know 288 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 6: what this means to him. I'm excited to get the 289 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 6: opportunity to play with him again, and you know we're 290 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 6: gonna make the most of it. 291 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: January nineteenth is when Jordan Brooks had surgery on ACL 292 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 4: and you think, okay, Week seventeen injury, a couple of 293 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: weeks for the swelling to go down. You're thinking, Okay, 294 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: you hoped him, you know, have him back midseason. He'll 295 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 4: be a nice in season addition to the defense, he's 296 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: off pup seven months after his injury. He's practicing fully 297 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 4: a week or two after that, And as Pete Carroll said, 298 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 4: at this point, they're going to be shocked if he's 299 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: not on the field week one. That's that's just wild 300 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 4: to me that he was able to make that kind 301 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: of comeback. And as Bobby Wagner said, as testament to 302 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: his work ethic, his dedication to this sport. And look, 303 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: that's just a great bonus for this defense. Again, I 304 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 4: think a lot of us just sort of assumed you're 305 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 4: starting this season without him, and you get it back 306 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: when you get him back. 307 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and if you watch him walk around, you can't tell, oh, no, 308 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 5: you have no idea which knee it was or that 309 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 5: he was. 310 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't wear there's no brace, no sleeve, nothing, 311 00:12:58,920 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: He's just out there doing it. 312 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is pretty impressive and it's fun to look 313 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 5: forward to week one. That's what we are doing. It 314 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 5: is also what our fantasy insider, Scott Ingele is doing. 315 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: Thanks Jen and John, and we get you ready for 316 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: your drafts, especially if you're a crunch time and they're 317 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: coming up shortly, by telling you what to do with 318 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: every slot in the first round. Of fantasy football drafts 319 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: here on Seahawks Fantasy Insider. I know many Seahawks fans 320 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: have felt really good about the Seahawks twenty twenty three 321 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: NFL draft, and we can make you feel good about 322 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: your draft. Come away feeling like John Schneider and Pete 323 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: Carroll did after taking Jackson Smith at JINGBA and Jack 324 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: Charboney early on. And we tell you who to start 325 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: with in your draft from every single spot in the 326 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: first round, and pick number one, Justin Jefferson is the 327 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 3: consensus number one overall. Pick number two Jamar Chase a 328 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: great number two selection. He has caught twenty two touchdown 329 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 3: passes his first twenty nine NFL games over his first 330 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: two seasons. At number three. Some people may offer a 331 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: running back or another top wide receiver, but I highly 332 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 3: recommend Travis Kelsey at number three or anywhere behind that, 333 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: because you have to continue. The score over one hundred 334 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: PPR points more than any other tight end last year 335 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: and since twenty sixteen, he has not finished worse than 336 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: the number two tight end. In fact, if he played 337 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: wide receiver, he would have finished fifth at the position 338 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: last year, and you get wide receiver one production at 339 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: the thinnest position in fantasy football. Christian McCaffrey will very 340 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: go off to the third and I recommend him at 341 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: number four, behind Kelsey at number five, Tyreek Hill, if 342 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: two a tongue of viola, can play most or all 343 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: of the schedule this year, he'll will challenge to be 344 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: the number one wide receiver in fantasy football. At number six, 345 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: you can take a very safe selection. Austin Eckler is 346 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: always a top level fantasy runrunning back and he has 347 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: played a full season in three of the last four years. 348 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: At number seven, wide receivers are going to continue to 349 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: fly off the board, so I would stick with Stefan Diggs, 350 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: and then at number eight, I would go with Cooper Cup. 351 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: He's healthy heading into the season, so is Matthew Stafford. 352 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: If the two of them can get back on the 353 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: same page that they had in recent seasons, this is 354 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: going to be something of a value selection at number 355 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: eight for an elite level wide receiver. At number nine, 356 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: I do like Saquon Barkley based on my pure rankings, 357 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: which you can find on Seahawks Fantasy Insider on the 358 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: page you go to News Fantasy Insider, But Barkley sometime 359 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: is going to drop to the second round, so you 360 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: should stick with the wide receiver run here and I 361 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: go with Ceedee Lamb at number nine. At number ten, 362 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: you're going to come around early in the second round, 363 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: maybe get a top five, top six running back, so 364 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: stick with another top one receiver and aj Brown at 365 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: number eleven. Bjon Robinson. This is a rookie that a 366 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: lot of people like. Run heavy, offense, very versatile. If 367 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: you want Bjon Robinson, you're probably gonna have to take 368 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: him by pick eleven because he's not gonna last much longer. 369 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: And then to finish out the first round, you can 370 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: go with either Amanra Saint Brown or Garrett Wilson of 371 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: the New York Jets. Playing with Aaron Rodgers. I love 372 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: the upside of Wilson. If you wanted to bump him 373 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: up two or three slots, I'm good with that, But 374 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: Amanra Saint Brown is my pick to finish out the 375 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: first round with Go with Wilson going early in the 376 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: second round and Barkley going early in the second round. 377 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: That should give you a good shell of a plan 378 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: heading into the first round. And just remember, you know, 379 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: don't try to guess what happens ahead of you. Don't 380 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: try to stress too much about it. Let the draft 381 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: come to you and simply pick your top ranked player 382 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: left in your queue or on the board when you're 383 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: pick is up. We will continue to give you weekly 384 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 3: previews for every lineup selection and what you will have 385 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: to do on waivers on Seahawks Fantasy Insider here on 386 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 3: the podcast and also on Seahawks dot com at the 387 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 3: Fantasy Insider page. Continue to check me out also at 388 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: the game day dot com at my rankings at rhotobowler 389 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 3: dot com. And back to you, Jen and John. 390 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: Thank you Scott. 391 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 5: We're gonna dive into our numbers with a matchup between 392 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 5: the Rams and the Seahawks next week, but I think 393 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 5: just to kind of get the juices going. And look, 394 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 5: it has not just been this week that the Hawks 395 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 5: have focused on the Rams. I know I could have 396 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 5: said that a little bit clearer, but they actually started 397 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 5: looking at the Rams last week when they were getting 398 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 5: ready for the final preseason game. And look, nobody really 399 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 5: knows what happens in week one, but you know, Smith 400 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 5: knows one thing. 401 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 7: You know, it's always about ourselves, about you know, continuing 402 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 7: to get better every single day, and so you know, 403 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 7: we're studying the rams. You know, I've already been studying 404 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 7: those guys and you know, putting together a playing with 405 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 7: Shane and all the coaches. So we just got to 406 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 7: continue to work day by day. You know, the game's 407 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 7: gonna come, you know, on Sunday, and we'll get a 408 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 7: chance to go out there and play those guys. But 409 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 7: for right now, we got to focus on how we 410 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 7: can get better every single day. And so that's kind 411 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 7: of where we're at STO. 412 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 5: Okay, but arguably they might have a little secret weapon 413 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 5: in Bobby Wagner. Yeah, I mean like a double secret weapon. 414 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 5: But yes, but he's also just really really good. 415 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: Well he's also just good at football. 416 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: He's just thirty three years old. 417 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 5: He's got to be running the defense there is I 418 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 5: can't imagine there's anything that he has not seen. 419 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not an easy guy, if well at all. 420 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: And to your point, he's been in that system now 421 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: for a year, knows the personnel there, knows what they 422 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 4: what they like, what they do. 423 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: So can't hurt to have him going against his old team. 424 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 5: I also really appreciate how Bobby handled his return, like 425 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 5: how he thought about it because even though he was 426 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 5: the unquestioned leader when he left the Seahawks and spend 427 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 5: a year in LA when he comes back, well, it 428 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 5: wasn't just about plug and play and walking back into 429 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 5: the building and taking over his old spot. 430 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 6: You know, at first it was an adjustment because obviously 431 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 6: you left for a minute, and you know, you kind 432 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 6: of wanted to come back. I didn't want to. I 433 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 6: didn't want to treat it like it was when I left, because, 434 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 6: like I said that, a lot of guys became leaders, 435 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 6: and a lot of guys, you know, got put in 436 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 6: certain roles, and so you know, for me, I just 437 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 6: wanted to, you know, add to that, add to you know, 438 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 6: where the guys were at. 439 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 7: Uh. 440 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 6: You know, obviously the fans have been amazing, and you know, 441 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to finally getting out there and playing 442 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 6: a game. 443 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: I really liked that point Bobby made about kind of 444 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: coming back and understanding the leaderships of it. 445 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: Look, he's Bobby Wagner. He's going to be a leader 446 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: of this defense. 447 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: I have a hunch he will be voted a captain, 448 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: maybe a co captain of Quandary Diggs or something like that. 449 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: But Quandary Diggs has talked about this, like Bobby being gone, 450 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: he had to step into a bigger role as a leader, 451 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: and I think that was good for him and even 452 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 4: Jordan Brooks as a young player who was calling the 453 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 4: defense last year, that helped him grow. So for Bobby 454 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 4: to understand that, to have that self arners of like, look, 455 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: he knows who he is. He's an alpha, he's a 456 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, He's one of the best to ever 457 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: do his position. But to also understanding like, look, these 458 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 4: guys their role increased, they became leaders, and I can't 459 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 4: just come step on that and boss everybody around here. 460 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: So I mean again, naturally, he is going to. 461 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: Be a big part of the leadership this year, but 462 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 4: I like that he has that awareness to what other 463 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: guys lead as well well. 464 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 5: In just having him in a meeting room is intimidating 465 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: for some of these games, right, Like you and I 466 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 5: know Bobby in a very different way than the rookies 467 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 5: are the second year players. Just his presence alone can 468 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 5: cause people to go into a show or be intimidated 469 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 5: to ask a question or to. 470 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: Make a mistake. That's not the way that you learn. 471 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, rightctly, Yeah, So I love having Bobby back, and 472 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 5: not only has he seen a lot of football, but 473 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 5: he's got a lot of perspective, which is why if 474 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 5: if you ask him what he expects from this season 475 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 5: and he tells you, I tend to believe him because 476 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 5: he just carries that much weight. 477 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: And has played that much football. 478 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 6: I think we could take this thing very far. I 479 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 6: think we have talent at every position. I think we 480 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 6: have talent on offense, we have depth on offense, we 481 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 6: have talent on defense, we have depth on defense, and 482 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 6: now is just putting everything together. And you know, I 483 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: feel like it's a cliche, but you're taking one game 484 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 6: at the time, but you know, we are strong in 485 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 6: a lot of areas and you know hasn't been that 486 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 6: way for a minute, And you know, I feel very 487 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 6: very confident where we're at, where we can go, and 488 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 6: a lot of it is just, you know, putting your 489 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 6: best foot forward and understanding there's gonna be highs and lows, 490 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 6: but trying to remain balanced in the process and be 491 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 6: your best version of yourself. 492 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 4: I like the way he says that we haven't been 493 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: that way for a minute, and I think that's a 494 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 4: good like, it's honest that. Look, the sex have been 495 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: a good competitive team year and year out. They you know, 496 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 4: they missed the playoffs a couple of years ago, the 497 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 4: one year, but even in recent years when they make 498 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: the playoffs, they haven't quite been as deep and talented 499 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: across the board as maybe a decade ago, when Bobby 500 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: Wagner and company, we're really thriving here, and I think 501 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: what we've heard from a lot of people and seeing 502 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 4: from all people this year in camp just felt a 503 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: little more competitive. There's been a little more edge to it, 504 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 4: and they're deep. I mean, you look at all the 505 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: preseason games of two day one and even the one 506 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 4: they lost, their depth was either winning them games or 507 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 4: getting them in games late where they feel like, you know, 508 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 4: there's not a lot of fall off from the ones 509 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: to the twos and so on. So I think Bobby Wagner, 510 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 4: he was not a guy to sugarcoat it. He's not 511 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 4: gonna say that. He would have said something else and 512 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 4: just not gone there. But for him to point that out, 513 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 4: he really feels the difference between maybe the teams he 514 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 4: was on the last couple of years here than you know, 515 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 4: what you've seen in this or I guess summer still 516 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: not quite the fall yet. 517 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what happens when you look too far 518 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 5: ahead on your calendar. John, No, this is why we 519 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 5: take you one day at time. We got some rain, 520 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 5: I'll say, Bobby and I are taking this one day 521 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 5: at a time. 522 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 2: All right, Maybe you should alter your approach. 523 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: I'll try. 524 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 5: I'm just saying those are my words of wisdom, my 525 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 5: career advice for you. Certainly there's a lot to be 526 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 5: excited about for the Seahawks team. Look, there's some question marks, 527 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 5: but there's also some great matchups. As we look ahead 528 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 5: towards that game Week one against the Rams. That is 529 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 5: what we are going to dive into next time. But 530 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 5: for today, we'll just say thanks for listening.