1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm Kailie Shure and this is too much 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: to say it out you. So while I was trying 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: to come up with an idea for this week's episode, 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: I usually do it either the day before I recorded 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: the day of kind of flying by the seat of 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: my pants, but that's gotten me this far. So I 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: was going through some journal injuries to try to find 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: like something I had a very strong opinion about, and 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: I saw the word closure, and I immediately was like, 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: oh my god, I have so many opinions on this, 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: and uh, I can talk forever. So we'll try to 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: keep it short and sweet. But moral of the story. 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: The episode is called Unicorns, Fairies, Enclosure because closure is 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: about as real as unicorns and fairies. Honestly, I think 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: fairies have more of a chance of being real than 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: closure does. Endings are under a whelming I mean, if 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: you really look back, I want everybody who's listening right 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: now to think about one of the big endings in 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: your life, whether it's you know, losing a job or 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: graduating or I don't know, your last summer at summer camp. 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: That one was actually a really like a big one 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: for me. And obviously relationships and they don't end the 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: day they end, So how do you call it an ending? Really? 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: I there's there's some movie and I can't remember what 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: it is, but it's like nothing ever ends. Really. That's 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: a quote from it, and it's so true. It sounds nonsensical, 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: but it's really accurate. And I think that in the 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: space of relationships and talking about that, endings are so 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: much more than the day it ends and whatever they 30 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: said to tell you why, or whatever you said to 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: tell them why. And it's a lot like when you 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: finish a TV show that you've been really invested in 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: the characters and you loved it, it comforted you, it 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: was present for a lot of your life. It was 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: something you laughed at, left with. And sometimes you watch 36 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: a TV show for eight years. I mean, I've been 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: watching Game of Thrones since I was in high school, 38 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: and when it ended, I got no closure from that. 39 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: I got a complete like everything I thought about the 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: show was wrong, all my theories were wrong. One of 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: my favorite characters was just not cool. I'm trying to 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: avoid spoilers, but like, honestly, if you haven't watched Game 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: of Thrones by now, like just get over it. You're 44 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: going to hear stuff on the internet, but like it 45 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: was just really not It didn't even feel like an 46 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: ending because I was like, well, that can't be it, right, 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: there has to be something, And honestly, like you're even 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: kind of thinking that they're going to come back and 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: be like, Oh, it's a joke. Maybe that's just me, 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: but when I get really attached to a TV show, 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: that's what happens. I hated the ending to Lost. That 52 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: was some of the biggest horses ship I've ever had 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: to put up with, and I was so mad for 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: wasting so much of my time on that TV show. 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: And I really hated the ending to How I Met 56 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: Your Mother because you're like, the point was that that 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen because you spent the entire it 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: was just it was stupid. Anyways, one piece of visual 59 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: media that does have an incredible, perfect ending is Palm Springs, 60 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: which has the mother from How I Met Your Mother. 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: She's a star in it with Andy Sandberg and it's 62 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: just wonderful. So if you're looking for some closure and 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: a good ending, go watch that, but don't look anywhere 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: else because you're going to be hard pressed to find closure. 65 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: It's such a thing for you know, you're talking to 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: your ex, you're texting, and you're like, let's get coffee, 67 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: or he's like, can you come over? I have some 68 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: things I want to talk about, and you're like, it's 69 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: all in the name of closure. You're like, Okay, I'm 70 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna go over to his house for closure. And it's like, 71 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: why are you wearing a black Lacey bro if you're 72 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: going over for closure? Ma'am? Nobody has ever gone over 73 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: for closure and sweatpants ever, And if you have, tweet 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: me and I will happily be wrong, but I'm willing 75 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: to bet then no one has ever gone over to 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: their excess house for closure dressed like a scrap. I'm 77 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: guilty of that too. I have a song. There's a 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: line in it and it's like I tell myself, like, 79 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to go back to you, 80 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: but then I put my perfume in my purse when 81 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: I go out because I know I'm gonna call you, 82 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: and like, you know, like you put your toothbrush in 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: your bag. You're like, you know where you're going that 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: night kind of situation. And yeah, I've never like I've 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: put on fake eyelashes for closure appointments. Also, let's call 86 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: them about their closure appointments. It is scheduled closure, and 87 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: it's it's not effective. I remember. So if you've heard 88 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: me talk about the Instagram, my ex boyfriend was an 89 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: Instagram four and he was just like it's so moody, 90 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: so dramatic, just like picture like I don't know, like 91 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: John Mayer but somehow more brooding and not John Mayer. 92 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: But he was very just theatrical and dramatic and tortured 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: and whatever. So we actually after breaking up, didn't how 94 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: we didn't talk, We didn't really see each other, and 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: I didn't like I never hooked up with him until 96 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: almost actually over six months later. And it was so 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: weird because I had played the Rhyman that night, and uh, 98 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: it was like I was on a high. I was 99 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: at a bar and I was having so much fun 100 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: and me and my friends ran into my ex with 101 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: an entire group of him and I was old friends, 102 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: and it was so weird. I mean, I looked great 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: because I just played the Rheman and put in an 104 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: incredible amount of effort and we started talking and literally 105 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: like next thing I know, we're in an uber on 106 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: the way to his house, but I had to drop 107 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: my friend off at her car first, So she's like 108 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: awkwardly sitting in the backseat with me and my ex boyfriend, 109 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: and she's like, do you want to do this? And 110 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, tv D, but we we 111 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: have all that happened. It's m S and you know, 112 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: find out he has a girlfriend, and I'm like, and 113 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: then we have my song vices um. But but a 114 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: couple of days later, after that whole ship show, he 115 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: text me and he's like, I think we really need 116 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: to have to drink. We need to talk about what happened, 117 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: and we need to just like get some clarity and 118 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: get some way for it closure. Wow that was that 119 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: was really deep. Anyways, So we go to this dive 120 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: far and I just remember, this is such an awkward 121 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 1: evening a I I think I drank like three years 122 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: in the first twenty to thirty minutes because I was 123 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: just like really uncomfortable and I hadn't sat across a 124 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: table from him since like we broke up. You know. 125 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: It was just weird and we're talking and I I 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: wanted answers and he wanted an apology for cheating on me, 127 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: like he wanted me to apologize somehow, and the things 128 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: he said to justify all of it, like it really 129 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: like it really drove it home that I was not 130 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: supposed to be with him, because like the things he 131 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: said were so heinous. Like he was like, well, Kayleie, 132 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: I just like you needed a wake up call, Like 133 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: you were never jealous, you never like cared what I 134 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: was doing. I'm like, well, that's called trust, that's called 135 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: not caring. I was just like and he'd be like, 136 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: and I just like think you needed a wake up 137 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: call about what you had to lose. And I was 138 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: like Jesus Christ. And then I you know, I ended 139 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: up saying something like I'm really sorry for you know, 140 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: the things I did wrong in our relationship, because I'm 141 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: not going to completely say that it's all his fault 142 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: because it wasn't. And things like this really only happened 143 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: when there's other problems, whether that other problem is that 144 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: the person is like a literal narcissist or you know, 145 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: it's just the wrong relationship, which I think is a 146 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: lot more of what this was. And um, we've been 147 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: breaking up for a long time by then, but we 148 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: just didn't know it. So anyway, so he's trying to 149 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: explain this to me, and he's like, and you just 150 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: needed a wake up call about like what you had 151 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: to lose. And I was like, by cheating on me, 152 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean we could have just like we could have 153 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: just done this. I mean we could have gone to 154 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: a bar and had a drink and like talked about it, 155 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: but you needed to be so fucking dramatic and tortured. 156 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: And then the worst but also of the funniest part 157 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: of all this is a girl he tried to cheat 158 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: on me with, like wasn't about it, like she like 159 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: they like it happened for like a second, and then 160 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: she was like I don't really want to do this, 161 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: um by so oh god, what a weird what a 162 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: weird thing. Anyways, so we're just kind of talking back 163 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: and forth about all these issues we had, and you know, 164 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: I had forgotten some points that I really wanted to 165 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: make because obviously i'd been like in the shower, getting 166 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: into fake arguments, sometimes winning sometimes losing, and just you know, 167 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: trying to practice what I was going to say to 168 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: him because I had so many feelings obviously, and it 169 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: just didn't work. And He walked me to my car 170 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: and we like made out of against my car and 171 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: he was like, this is the last time we're ever 172 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: going to kiss. And I was like hearing Last Kiss 173 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: by Taylor Swift in my head and I was like, 174 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: that's so weird because he's like so right, like this 175 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: is like crazy and narrator, it was not the last time, 176 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: but there was the last time, so that's good news. 177 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: But it was just like it was so we didn't 178 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: even accomplish anything. Oh and then the worst part was 179 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: I ran into like a friend of mine who's older 180 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: and married and really has a ship together and and 181 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: knew a lot about the situation with a breakup, and 182 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: we've even written songs about it. And we're at this 183 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: bar and I see him and he just walks over. 184 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, are you okay, And it had big 185 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: like blinked twice if you need me to save you energy, 186 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I'm here for closure. And yeah, 187 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: it was just it was just ridiculous because we didn't 188 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: accomplish anything. We just dug up the same ship we've 189 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: been arguing about. We kept going in circles. I mean, 190 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: maybe we were a little calmer about it, but nothing 191 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: was truly accomplished. And then, like any other relationship situation ship, 192 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: I feel like most of I don't know how to 193 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: refer to them. And my boyfriend makes fun of me 194 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: for this all the time because I'll be like, oh, yeah, 195 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: when my X said this, and he's like, kayleie, do 196 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: they know you're there? You're X? And I'm like, well, 197 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're talking to somebody on and off 198 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: for like nine months and they get drunk and tell 199 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: you that they love you and you talk to them 200 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: every day and have this like you know, escalated thing. 201 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't feel like he was my boyfriend, 202 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: but I certainly feel like he was my ex boyfriend. 203 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: And I could do an entire episode on this, but anyway, 204 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: so we'll just call him X. I don't know X, 205 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: whatever's X. Some things and you know, even then, like 206 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: one of the worst ones, which is like the guy 207 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: that I talked about who lied about being in the 208 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: hospital and like lied about having a car, and you know, 209 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: lots of things. Um, there was just like that one 210 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: big blow up in the parking lot when I was 211 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: drunk and I was just finally like, why don't you 212 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: love me? And it was just like a really low point. 213 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: But after that, like he was super unimpressed with my 214 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: behavior and I was like, oh my god, this is it. 215 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: And then I kind of was like, well, this is 216 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: good because I can't go running around like begging him 217 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: for closure and making myself look even more fucking pathetic 218 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: and desperate. I can't because you know, he blocked me. 219 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: So that's great, Like this is this is a clean break, narrator. 220 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: It was not a clean break, and obviously he's a 221 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: fucking dude, and like my whole I wrote out of 222 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: it about him, And it was the winter of that 223 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: Christmas when we had like not had a thing anymore. 224 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: We like ended things like a little after Halloween, and 225 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: then around the holidays he came back and he was 226 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: like I changed my mind, Like I feel like I 227 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: can only be myself around you, and like that all 228 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: is like really you know, aggressive stuff and you know, 229 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: like like aggressively emotional, like they were nice things. And 230 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm so glad you 231 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: asked because I love you and I actually just hooked 232 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: up with my ex boyfriend and it was terrible, So 233 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: this sounds like so much better. Yes, come back whatever, 234 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: and then he comes back and lies about being in 235 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: the hospital. So Christmas of nineteen um, literally the next 236 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: year he did it, and it was like literally textbook 237 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: it was exactly what happened, and out of It all 238 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: over again, my song out of It. If in case 239 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: anybody listens to the podcast and doesn't listen to my music, 240 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: which I actually totally understand. I I do hope that 241 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: maybe you might check it out if you feel like it. 242 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: But so that Christmas he gets all lonely and board 243 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: back home again, and then it hits me up and 244 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: it's like being super flirty, and I wasn't really seeing 245 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: anybody at the time, and so I like drop everything 246 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god. And then thankfully we 247 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: didn't end up like hanging out because I was in 248 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: l A and and he was gone. And then there 249 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: was one night he was in l A. But he 250 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: kind of avoided me, so I went and hung out 251 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: with the actual l A guy. It was both my 252 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: fun boys. I had an l A fun boy and 253 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: a Nashville fun boy. They were in the same city, 254 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: and it was like a crossover episode like the That's 255 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: So Sweet Life of Hannah Montana. I don't know if 256 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: you guys remember that, but it was like that, it 257 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: was like a crossover episode and I was like, I 258 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: can't handle both of these at once. So it never 259 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: actually ended up happening. And the day I met my 260 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: boyfriend Sam is the last time I had feeling shrimp. 261 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: I literally just immediately was like, oh, this is what 262 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: it's supposed to feel like. Okay, so that was just 263 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: a that was a big waste of a year and 264 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: a half. Okay, cool, anyways, moving on, but so like 265 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: it just even when he was mad at me and 266 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: like we weren't talking and it was like just a full, 267 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: like hard break, I was like, there, I'm gonna get 268 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: closure from this, and I didn't. And then I think 269 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: we ended up getting coffee again if I remember correctly. 270 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not, I don't know, but either way, it 271 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: didn't work. It literally did not work. And the only 272 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: thing that I think can truly give you closure is 273 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: just getting to the point where you don't fucking care. 274 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: And for me, the point of breaking up with somebody 275 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: is because, like over an event is because they did 276 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: something inexcusable. So if it's inexcuse, what means an excuse 277 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: does not exist? That would justify the action. And so 278 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: if there's no excuse that will justify it, why are 279 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: you looking for one? Why do you want to know 280 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: why they did it? Like why does the why matter? 281 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: And I mean they're the only thing. Because my ex 282 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: literally told me why he cheated on me, but it 283 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: was like fucking heinous and it didn't make me feel 284 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: any better. It was literally just stupid. He was like, yea, well, 285 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: because because I just like you need a wake up 286 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: call about who you had to lose, Like that's stupid. 287 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: That did not give me closure, that did not give 288 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: me answers, And it's because it was inexcusable. Can you 289 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: think of a single thing other than like that person 290 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: having a gun to their head, like that would justify 291 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: someone cheating on you. Like there's there's times that maybe 292 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: you could be a little bit more understanding, like if 293 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: it's like the beginning of a relationship and it's like 294 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: a drunk mess up or like the persons really depressed 295 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: and self sabotaging or whatever like those, but they still 296 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: don't justify it. They might make you understand and empathize 297 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Obviously, everybody's story is different, but 298 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: the moral of the story is finding out the why 299 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: and sitting them down and going over to their house 300 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: for closure to find out why. You're not going to 301 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: find out why because I did something stupid and they 302 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: don't even know why they did it. They never do. 303 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: If they try to explain it, they're just going to 304 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: dig themselves into a bigger hole. And you're going to 305 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: leave with your underwear in your purse and not an 306 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: ounce of closure. So don't do it, ladies. That might 307 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: be the edgiest thing I've ever so in the podcast. 308 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, anyways, but it's true. Quote me put 309 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: it on a T shirt. Don't do it. I think 310 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: that the only thing you know, like is just learning 311 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: to not care, getting the to the point where you 312 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: don't care. And I would have loved answers about why 313 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: me and um out of it guy didn't work and 314 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: why he couldn't reciprocate the feelings, because I feel like, 315 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that was the problem 316 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: is that he just wasn't into me enough and liked 317 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: the attention I was giving him, And that's like whatever, 318 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, But I just needed to get to a 319 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: point where I didn't care, and as soon as I 320 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: met Sam, I was like, m my super don't care. Cool. 321 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: And it's been a year since then and I have 322 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: not cared since I have any Like, I literally don't. 323 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: Even even if he could explain everything to me, I don't. 324 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: I just legitimately don't want him to. I just I 325 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: could not. I can't be bothered, like and it's weird 326 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: to not care, to get to that point where you can, 327 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, like because sometimes I'll still like he texted 328 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: me when the album came out and made a joke 329 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: I posted on my Instagram, but like he made a 330 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: joke about out of it and was like, well, it's 331 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: not bad. I would have hated a bad song written 332 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: about me. I'm like, well it's not nice, but um, 333 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: seeing his name on my phone like that used to 334 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: like make my heart stop and that's so loser ish 335 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: of me, but that's how I felt, and I like 336 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: everything would stop and I just like be like a 337 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: like a junkie who just needed a fix, and the 338 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: fix was seeing his name on my phone. Like it 339 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: was just full on pathetic and I hate that I 340 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: went through that, but I had to. I think it 341 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: was an important learning experience. But you know, when he 342 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: texted me about the album. I saw his name on 343 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: my phone and I didn't even like respond because I 344 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: just was like, oh cool, I'll get back to him. 345 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: I didn't even care what it was. And that's such 346 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: a weird feeling because it used to be, like, you know, 347 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: I used to have my days revolve around him talking 348 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: to me. And so you just need to get to 349 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: that point where you don't care. And the only thing 350 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: they can get you to that point where you don't 351 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: care is a good healthy dose of time. And I 352 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: also think that finding somebody new like that shouldn't be 353 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: something you're actively going out and looking for in order 354 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: to get over somebody. I mean, go have like your 355 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: breakup like post breakup hook ups or whatever, but don't 356 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: be like I need to fall in love again so 357 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: I can get over this person. That's stupid. That's going 358 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: to set you up for a lot of drama and 359 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: just a terrible way to start a relationship. But like, 360 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: when you do find the right person, it makes you 361 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: look back at everybody and be like, oh you, like, 362 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: what was I fucking thinking? And it's just it puts 363 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: everything in perspective. And so that's like where meeting the 364 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: right person, or even like meeting a guy was nice 365 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: to you. Because one of the first times it started 366 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: to click for me was I am I was seeing 367 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: this guy in New York and this was like, this 368 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: was like right around Christmas, of which it was a 369 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: busy time for it was a busy time. And don't 370 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: judge me, and not like it wasn't really like a 371 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: whole thing. It was more just like a and whatever. 372 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: I don't slut shame, that's ridiculous. I could have been 373 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: doing whatever I wanted, but it was more just like 374 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: texting because one was in l a, one was a 375 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: New York one was in Nashville. But the New York 376 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: guy was so nice to me, and like we knew 377 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: it was never going to work out like ever, it 378 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: was just so not on the table. He was never 379 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna moved to Nashville. I was never going to move 380 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: to New York. I never even discussed. But I was 381 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: in New York for a lot of that winter, and 382 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: seeing like how he would treat me and how kind 383 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: he was and how communicative he was, I'd be like, oh, wow, 384 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: oh so that exists out there. So it doesn't even 385 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: have to be the right person. It's just like the 386 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: first person who treats you well, and you're like, oh, 387 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: so that's gonna be what gives you closure. You're gonna 388 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: get closure from stepping back, not embarrassing yourself by texting 389 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: them all the time, and it's like you just don't. 390 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: You're not gonna have control over it. And also only 391 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: the person who got their heartbroken wants the closure you 392 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: never have the asshole cheated being like me. Maybe they 393 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: want to like clarify, but they're not the ones who 394 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: need like the last nail to be put in the coffin. 395 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if I use that correctly. 396 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: But the heartbroken person wants closure because then they can 397 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: get their power back. And that's why you wear your 398 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: Lacey braw over. And it's not necessarily because you're like, 399 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm dying to sleep with this person again. Is because 400 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: you're like, I just want them to want me again 401 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: because that will make me feel like I got something back. 402 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: But truthfully, you're going to wake up the next morning 403 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: and you won't have gotten anything back, promise, And then 404 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: you might just go to their bathroom to you know, 405 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: use the mouth of watch and trying to get yourself 406 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: together because before you go to your co right, so 407 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: people can't tell that you hooked up with your ex 408 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: boyfriend last night, and then you might see some fake 409 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: eyelashes at the top of his trash can and realize, oh, 410 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: all right, that those are fresh, those are from the 411 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: day before. Okay, cool. So anyways, thanks for listening to 412 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: me rant as usual, Love you guys so much. Um. 413 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm still, you know, just loving the reactions. I love 414 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: reading the reviews on iTunes. We're still getting reviews that 415 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: are like, what do you say? Fun? So much like 416 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: because when I'm angry, it's okay. Also, I would just 417 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: love to take everybody who's left a negative review. All 418 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: of the negative reviews are about me swearing, Like literally, 419 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: that is the only thing people aren't like, Oh, I 420 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: don't like what she's talking about there, Like I don't 421 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: like her use of the effort, which is just hilarious. 422 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: I can't imagine in this economy that's what riles you 423 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: up enough to make comment on the internet, Like, there 424 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: are so many other things to get angry about, but 425 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: they'll leave like these reviews. And I just want to 426 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: get all these people together and show them the history 427 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: of swearing. Um, that new show on Netflix that's hosted 428 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: by Knick Cage. It's really funny. But then one they 429 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: do about Funck is like it's so versatile, like you 430 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: can use so many different circumstances. And also I wrote 431 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: a study which I will be happy to share on 432 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: my Twitter dot com page that swearing more is a 433 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: sign of intelligence. Yeah, like like very intelligent people swear more. 434 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: And that's obviously not at all across the board, but 435 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: it was a legit enough study for me to feel 436 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: better about my negative I Change reviews. So anyways, I'll 437 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: see you guys next Wednesday. Thank you so much for 438 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: tuning in. I hope you're all having a great week. 439 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm Kayleie Shore and this is too much to say, 440 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: so say I'll turn it out of you. Yeah,