WEBVTT - Democrats Were Getting Excited Until 'You Know What' Hit The Fan 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.360 Welcoming to his verdict was Senator Ted Cruz before we 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.480 even get started. Today's show is going to have a 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.200 lot of big information in it. Grab a piece of paper, 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.360 grab a pencil, and make sure you hit that subscribe 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:19.279 or auto download button because with all the special Prosecutor, 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.360 we may be doing breaking news shows. You don't want 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:24.720 to miss those. So if you hit subscribe auto download, 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:27.800 you'll know every time we do a podcast. With that 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.080 being said, Senator, it has been one hell of a 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:35.280 week for Democrats. They thought they were coming out of 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.800 this mid term election was some momentum. They were excited 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.159 about gas prices coming down a little bit, They were 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.120 excited about the approval rating numbers coming up a little 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.640 bit for Joe Biden. David Gergen put it this way, 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.000 saying he was very excited until all the you know 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.440 what hit the fan with these documents now about the 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.000 political fallout which could be considerable and unwelcome to the 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.080 administration certainly coming it's film matter only mentioned with inflation cooling, 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.800 gas prices dropping, and the President's approval numbers growing in 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.000 the polls. At least before this joining US has seen 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.800 a senior political anials David Gurgan, White House insider for 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:09.959 Democrats and Republicans have liked dating back to the Knicks 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.240 and the years. Also seen in political commentator and former 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.120 Pennsylvania Republican Congressman Charlie Dent and seen un political analyst 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.080 Jackie Kucinich. She's watching a via chief for the Boston Globe, 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.640 David Gurgan. Let's start with you, how big a mess 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.800 is this for the Biden administration. It's very very big, 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.840 not legally but politically, it's a very very big deal. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.880 You know, this is a president who was marching upward 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:33.840 for the first time in his presidents. He's got his 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.480 numbers up, people are feeling better about the economy for 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.000 all sorts of reasons to believe that he could he 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.440 could now present himself. The fears that people like me 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.960 have about how old is he kind of governed, Well, 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.560 those fears will be dissipated if he were able to 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.680 stay on that track. But now along comes this, this, 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.760 this gigantic story, which is totally unexpected, and it's not 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.200 that not for six the original plan now, but I 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:04.000 do think that they um the button people. They may 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:05.880 be making a big mistake unders now may be wrong 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:07.560 about this. I think they've done a wonderful job for 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.400 being cooperative with the government, and they've done it quote 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.520 by the books that they were saying. But I don't 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:17.280 think sitting there hunkering down now, they're just acting like 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.600 it's out out there is there is, there goes. They're 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.680 just gonna have you're gonna get cream doing. There's also 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.600 been the drip drip drip of information some I mean, 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.400 let's just stop there, Senator. They want an honorable mention. 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:32.919 It sounds like for being quote transparent. Yet this story 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.440 keeps drip drip dripping, and even those the media like 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.119 Gurgan are saying, well, I don't believe he's in trouble legally, 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:44.239 He's just in trouble politically. Do you buy that? Well, 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.919 I'll say a number of things listening to that excerpt. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.840 Number one, CNN continues to self satirize as you look 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.280 at their panel discussing President Biden's political fortunes, and you 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.400 have four liberals discussing it. You've got Jake Tapper, who's 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.160 gone dramatically to the left. You have David Gurgan, who 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.840 was of course a senior White House official to Bill Clinton, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.120 always worked with Republicans as well, but he's always been 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.520 left of center. You've got Cassinich, who's far left of center, 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.359 and then you've got Charlie Dent, who's probably the most 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.440 liberal Republican to serve in the House in a long time. 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.280 So that's their panel. Normally, you and I were up 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.960 said and by the way, you know, you've logged a 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.520 lot of miles ban on CNN, so you're familiar with 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.520 stack panels of the left hand and the far left 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.840 hand sitting there. Seven years in hell, as we describe it, 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.840 the seven years of an in hell is what I did. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.120 I did my tour of duty. So it's just amusing 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.720 listening to Tapper go through the panel. But then you 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:42.360 have Gergan, even a panel of people on the left 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.600 are sitting there going holy crap. As as Gergan put it, 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:52.480 Biden's getting creamed. This last week was one of the 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.760 worst weeks, if not politically the worst week of the 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.600 Biden administration. You'd have to go back to the absolute 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.320 disaster in Afghanistan, thirteen American servicemen and women being murdered 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.880 to find a week that politically caused as much consternation 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.440 in the Oval Office as this week did and it was. 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.920 It's a mess that it keeps getting worse. All right, 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:15.520 I want to get your take on this center, but 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:16.920 before we get to that, I want to tell you 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.760 about our good friends over at Patriot Mobile. 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Well, 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.240 you look at the White House Press Secretary I John Pierre. 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:52.440 This is just my personal opinion, maybe one of the 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.840 worst White House spreacot secretaries that I've ever seen when 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.760 it comes to adapting and having to deal with things 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.479 that are quote as I would describe it, outside of 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.320 the talking point. She's great at walking up there sticking 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.520 to a script. Perfect example of that is on Thursday, 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.480 the White House said six different times that the search 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:16.919 for classified documents was quote complete, that's talking points. In reality, 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.320 we found out that more classified documents were discovered after 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.280 she said this, and here's the montage. The search is 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:28.160 clearly complete. They completed the search. The search is complete. 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.599 He is confident in this process. You should assume that 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.599 it's been completed. Yes, after the search concluded last night. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.360 That search was completed last night. I mean, either she's 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.080 an idiot or she's willfully lying to the American people, 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.599 and that I think goes back to what David Gergan 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.320 was saying. Well, to be fair, as a matter of logic, 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.080 those two are not mutually exclusive. Yeah, she can be both. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:57.040 And I will say that that's she's an exceptionally poor liar. 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.919 I mean, it really is amazing the Biden White House 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.760 hires her to stand up and say things that are 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.320 demonstrably false, and she says them over and over and 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.520 over again. We've talked a lot on this spot about 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.840 how she claims nobody's crossing the border illegally, like, never 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.880 mind the five point three million, they don't exist. These 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.120 aren't the droid you're looking for. She just stands up 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.760 there and gaslight. She stands up and says, you know, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.800 it was the Republicans who wanted to shut school down, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:24.640 schools down. She is willing to lie, which is not 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.560 a good characteristic for press secretary, but then she's bad 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.960 at it. You know, the best press secretary we may 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.840 have seen in modern times was Mike McCurry for Bill Clinton. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.760 And when Bill Clinton had all the scandals, had Monica Lewinsky, 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.600 McCurry could stand up there and he just had an 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:46.040 awe shuck's way of yeah, okay, my boss is an 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:50.240 inveterate liar, but he was charming about it. She's not. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.040 And if you look at what she says, part of 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.120 the problem with her lying is she lies in ways 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.400 that are easy to get caught. So she said over 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.920 and over again as you just played that the searcher 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.080 was complete. The searcher was complete. The searcher was complete. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.600 There was just one problem. Those facts were inoperative. And 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.320 so you mentioned at the start of the pod to 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.400 write things down. Let's go through the timeline. So on 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:17.200 Monday of this past week, the Biden White House revealed 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.160 to the world what it claimed the facts were, and 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.400 here's what it claimed. It claimed that on November second, 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.600 the president's personal lawyers just happened to be packing up 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:31.240 his old office at the Penn Biden Center, and they 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:35.920 discovered documents that were classified as they were going through. Now, 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.440 as we've talked about earlier, it's a little bit odd. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.160 Those are high priced movers if you're hiring lawyers to 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.560 pack up and move. But that's that's the story they're claiming. 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.920 So that was November second. The White House claims they 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:51.760 immediately contacted the Archives, and on November fourth, the National 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:58.000 Archives informed DJ. Now you'll recall when the stormtroopers came 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.120 into Marrow Lago, how they leaked over and over and 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.880 over again. You know what didn't happen On November fourth, 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.360 when the Department of Justice was informed, they didn't link anything. 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.240 They didn't link anything. They didn't tell the American people anything. 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.240 By the way, there was an election coming up November eighth, 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.400 and boy, the secrecy was tight. Never mind that this happened, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:22.719 never mind that this happened. So that occurred. And then 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:29.959 in December, Biden's personal attorney and formed the prosecutor was 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.600 investigating this that a second set of documents had been found, 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:38.680 this time in the garage of Biden's house, right next 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.960 to that now infamous corvette, and also some more in 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.480 another adjoining room. I still don't think we know whether 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.360 it's a bathroom, whether it's the washing machine room. You know, 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.480 whether it's his massage room. I don't know if he 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.400 has a massage room. Whatever the room is next to 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.360 the garage that they don't want to tell us. Then 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.920 on Wednesday of last week, the Biden attorneys found another 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:03.719 classified document get another location at his Wilmington residence. And 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.719 that's when Karen John Pierre said, the searchers complete, the 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:11.680 searchers complete, the searchers complete, except that they found five 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:16.400 more on Thursday. And so you know, as we sit here, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.640 the question is what's coming next? And the drip, drip, drip. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:26.440 It is amazing as a competence matter that apparently they're 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.199 not able to figure out where else. I mean, I mean, 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:35.000 what was this guy doing just sticking classified documents everywhere? 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.280 I mean that that's just a little weird at this point, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.080 and they can't even figure out, Like if you sit 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.000 down and you're like, oh crap, this is bad. What 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.880 can we do? What can we do? All right? Number 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.320 one step number one in the crisis. Let's get ahead 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.360 of it. Let's figure out what the facts are. Let's 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.000 actually do the damn search. Apparently they can't do that 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.480 because I fully expect this week we're going to discover, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.960 you know, in his gym bag packed under his speed 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.920 or the nuclear codes. I mean it, it has gotten 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.600 so bad that it's a punchline and that is not 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.800 a good thing, and they're screwing it up by making 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.559 it even worse. You look at the special prosecutor who 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.439 was named for this case, and you want to talk 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.280 about you look at for example, I'll compare this for 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.400 a moment to mar Lago. We knew and they knew 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.880 and where these documents were. At mar Lago, they even 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:27.960 had come in and looked at these documents and knew 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.559 they were a quote, you know, an area that they 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.560 agreed upon that was more secure or a secure room. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.720 I mean, there was a lot of conversations. From what 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:41.800 we understand. The difference with this one is these documents 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:47.520 we know had to have been moved multiple times, just 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.199 based on the timeline, just based on when the pen 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.960 center even open and he had access to it. We 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.880 don't know if these documents were at one point altogether, 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.079 and now they've they've shown up in three different locations. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.360 We have no idea who had access to these documents 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.240 or who were around them. And I've noticed this other 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.160 theme center, which is well, this is a political problem 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.760 David Gergin to that, but not a legal one for him. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.360 How can they say that when we don't even know 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.720 what the documents are yet and we know they're classified. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.800 We also there's a bunch of other documents around these 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.680 documents that were that dealt with foreign countries that apparently 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.560 we're not classified. I mean, what if a lot of 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.520 this information deals with their business and financial dealings and 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.600 info that would give them a leg up on China 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.280 and Ukraine with Barisma and other things like that. How 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.960 can you just walk out there and say, well, we're 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.080 not worried about this anything legally, where this is more 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:44.760 optics politically. Well, you're right that. Right now, we don't 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.520 know what's in the documents. What has been reported and 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.200 or leaked is that at least one of the documents 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.920 was SCI code word clearance, which is the highest level 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.600 of clearance. So it's not the bottom level is secret 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.320 and there's top secret, but SCI codeword is for very 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:04.080 sensitive materials, and at least one of the documents apparently 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.800 was classified at that highest level. We have also heard 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.480 reports and leaks that they concerned for and countries concerned 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.280 the United Kingdom in China and Iran. We don't know 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.680 in what respect in Ukraine. As we talked about on 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:25.359 the last pot, if these documents involved Biden's personal financial 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:29.520 dealings with these countries, either Joe Biden's or Hunter Biden's 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:33.920 or Joe Biden's brothers, that takes this to a qualitatively 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.559 different place. At this point, we have no indication that 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:40.559 that's the fact, but that would be a massive escalation. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:46.160 Why is that the Democrats are convinced there's no legal liability. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.040 I think the answer is they have confidence in Merrick Garland. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.360 And you know, you and I recently did a pod 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:57.200 right after Robert heard the Special Council was named, and 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.200 we were one of the very first analyzes out there 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.400 looking into HER's background. And at the time I pointed 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.000 out that he had been principal Associate Deputy Attorney General 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:12.079 under Rod Rosenstein, and I said that did not give comfort. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.880 What we've seen since then is not only was he 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.760 a protege of Rod Rosenstein, he was also a protege 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:23.440 of Chris Ray, the Director of the FBI, who, sadly, 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.240 Chris I think has has has presided over an FBI 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:33.320 that has continued to be deeply partisan, that has continued 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:37.960 to be political players. Now it is not as egregious 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.880 as it was under his predecessor, under James Comey, where 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:46.240 Comy was actively part of the problem. But Chris Ray 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.400 has been unwilling to clean house, unwilling to get rid 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:56.440 of the hard partisan career officials at the FBI, And 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.600 so when it comes to if you're a Democratic partisan 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.200 and you realize, we'll wait a second, every decision here 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.000 is going to be made by number one, a guy 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:10.120 that's Chris Ray and Rod Rosenstein's protege, but number two, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.800 ultimately by Merrick Garland, who has already proven to be 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.040 the most political Attorney general ever. I think you have 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.800 a level of comfort that this is a messaging problem 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:22.680 and not a legal problem that they're going to justify, well, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.240 everything was done right here, no matter what was done, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.840 because in their view, there is such a qualitative difference 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:35.000 between Biden and Trump that whatever the facts, it can 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.520 be swept under the rug. What becomes hard. And the 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.960 reason they view this as a political problem is they 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:46.320 have one target, and that is Donald John Trump. That 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:51.040 is their target. And politically this now makes it messy 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.800 for Democrats to get up and say having classified documents 0:15:55.800 --> 0:16:01.560 in places other than secured lockdown skifts is disastrous. That's 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.000 very difficult when Joe Biden seems to leave them everywhere 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:09.000 he goes. That's what they're wrestling with politically. But I 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.600 think they have confidence that the guy's investigating if there's 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.920 not going to be legal peril for Biden or the 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:20.520 people surrounding it. Representative James Comber. He said one of 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.040 his big problems with us on Say the Union Sunday 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:27.240 morning was that the special counsel has been called for Biden, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.160 yet his attorneys were still rummaging what he described as 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.440 the crime scene individuals that do not, in fact have 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:38.280 top secret clearance. To take a listen, he's Coomber of Kentucky. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.360 Mister chairman, thanks for joining us. Let's start on the 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:44.640 news yesterday that five additional pages of classified documents were 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.600 found at President Biden's residence in that Wilmington suburb, in 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.360 a room adjacent to the garage. What's your reaction to 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:57.000 this latest development. Well, my concern is that the special 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.520 Council was called for, but yet hours after that, we 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.960 still had the president's personal attorneys, who have no security clearance, 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:09.520 still rummaging around the President's residents looking for things. I 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.439 mean that would essentially be a crime scene, so to speak. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.520 After the appointment of a special counsel. So, you know, 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.200 we have a lot of questions for the National Archives, 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.159 we have a lot of questions for the Department of Justice, 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.320 and hopefully we'll be getting some answers very soon. I 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.000 mean it's an active crime scene, is the way he 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.040 described it, and they're just rummaging through I guess they're 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.000 just going through everything trying to find papers. What does 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.280 the law say about this? I mean, if if they 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:37.159 know that there's classified documents, can they just send staffers 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.040 and random lawyers who do not have top secret clearance? 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.439 So like, hey, scay, you know, go through everything in 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.280 this room, in this room, in this room, and then 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.080 let us know what you find. Well, look what this 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.000 illustrates as the rampant double standard not now to be clear, 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.520 and we talked about this early on when the issue 0:17:56.520 --> 0:18:01.960 of the Marlago rate occurred, that president of both parties 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.800 for a long time have had disputes over documents, and 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:09.240 presidents keep documents to prepare memoirs, and presidents complete keep 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:14.840 documents to prepare for their presidential libraries. Now Biden's a 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.920 little bit different in that it appears all of these 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:21.120 documents were from his time as vice president or not president. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.200 I say all of them, I'm not actually the ones 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.520 at the Penn Center were from the vice presidential time. 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.080 I don't know that they publicly said whether the corvette 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:31.840 documents or the latest documents in his Wilmington home were 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.200 from his time as president or vice president. If they 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.560 have said it, I haven't seen that reported, and Merritt 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:41.560 Garland is not giving any details. But look, there is 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.479 some element of presidents have some ability to work with 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:50.320 investigations and to endeavor, to comply and to turn over materials. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:54.800 What is striking is that's not the leniency they gave 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.240 Donald Trump. They they sent in FBI agents to raid. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.800 And so when I think the third or fourth tranche 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.240 of documents were discovered with Biden, I jumped on Twitter 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.000 and said, you know, so, when's the FBI raid happening? 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.919 And that's just I think the FBI rate of mar 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:15.320 Lago was wrong. And so I'm not actually calling for 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:19.920 an FBI raid of Biden's residence. But it's very difficult 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.240 for a Democrat to explain, well, why do we only 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.639 raid Trump and not our guy? Now they'll say they're talking. 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:30.560 Point in response, is well, our guys complying. Well, he's 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.159 not complying very well, and he keeps finding more and 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.040 more and more, And you're right that who knows who 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.320 the heck they're sending in there looking around and what 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:42.360 documents they are. What has been demonstrated is they don't 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.600 know what's there. So it's very hard for them to 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:49.600 com claim that they are complying with a classified documents 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.480 security protocol given that from all appearances, they have no 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:58.399 idea what documents exist where, and yet they're sending in 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.439 who knows whom to go look for. I said this 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.280 the other day when this first broke and you and 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.280 I were chatting about it, I said, I wonder if 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.960 this is not a great opportunity for Democrats to say, 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.920 all right, we get rid of our problem and that's 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.320 Joe Biden. We got through the midterms. Now maybe this 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.080 is our off ramp we can bring in our new person. 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:23.000 Adam Schiff was on ABC this week, and I mean 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.239 shocked the hell out of me when he had this 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:29.880 to say, the outgoing chair of the House Intelligence Committee Conversationship. 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.520 You were on this show just after Attorney General Garland 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.960 appointed a special counsel in the case of the Trump documents. 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:37.880 He said it was the right move. Do you feel 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:42.360 the same way about this special counsel? I do think 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.840 it's the right move. The Attorney General has to make 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:48.640 sure that not only is justice evenly applied, but the 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:53.720 appearances of justice are also satisfactory to the public. And 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:55.960 here I don't think he had any choice but to 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:59.119 appoint a special counsel, and I think that special counsel 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:03.080 will do the proper assessment. I still would like to 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:07.760 see Congress do its own assessment and receiving assessment from 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.520 the intelligence community of whether there was an exposure to 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.920 others of these documents, whether it was harm to national 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.000 security in the case of either set of documents with 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.680 either president. But yes, I think the Special Council was 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.959 appropriately appointed. Jonathan, If I could, I mean you hear 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:28.439 him say that there, Senator, and that's not what I 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:33.880 was expecting from Adam Shift at all. Well, it is surprising, 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:37.040 and I do think Democrats are reeling and trying to 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:41.560 figure out how to respond to this. It's premature to 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.359 say that the analysis of it is what you suggested, 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:46.720 that this is Democrats trying to throw Joe Biden to 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.679 the curb. What I would say is that today's congressional 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:56.800 Democrats hate Donald Trump much more than they love Joe Biden. 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:03.040 So they're frustrated because they recognize this mess is a 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:07.560 real political problem for their effort to go after Trump, 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.280 and so they're reacting with that frustration of wait a second, 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:15.959 we must go after Beelzebub, and you are making it 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.680 difficult for us to go after Beelzebub. Actually, I say 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.479 that the odds that they would know who Beelzebub is 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.600 are actually quite low, because that would suggest some familiarity 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:29.960 with well, I'm gonna I'm gonna be nice, I'm gonna 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.800 go to the high road, and not not finish that thought. 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:40.040 With respect to Joe Biden, I think Democrats are divided 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:44.280 right now on Joe Biden. Just about everyone recognizes that 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:46.560 he's too damn old and that his age is a 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.000 real issue and that competence has been a real issue. 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:53.680 At the same time, Democrats are pretty good at message discipline, 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:58.399 and so they have uniformly circled the wagons around him 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:00.320 and said he's our guy. We're going to defend him 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:04.840 no matter what. Now, there are a ton of ambitious 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:11.080 Democrats circling the carcass of the White House who want 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:13.760 to run. And we've talked about all the Democrats, whether 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.560 it's Kamala Harris or Pete Buddha Jedge or Gavin Newsom 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.800 or Elizabeth Warren. I think there are a lot of 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.280