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Speaker 1: The volume Live golf heads to the JCB Golfing Country

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Speaker 1: Club July twenty five through the twenty eight one of

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Speaker 1: the world's best new courses. The venue will have its

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Speaker 1: own home team, Majestics GC, featuring Ryder Cup legends Ian

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Speaker 1: Poulter and Leland Westwood. So this is the last event

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Speaker 1: only three events to go after this one, and it's

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Speaker 1: tight at the top of both leader boards. So in

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Speaker 1: the individual stakes, Joaquin Nieman leads John Rahm and Bryson Shambeau.

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Speaker 1: So the field features a total of fourteen major champions,

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Speaker 1: sixteen Ryder Cup stars including rom To Shambo, Phil Mickelson, Brooks,

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Speaker 1: Keep Cud, Dustin Johnson. It is an all star loaded field.

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Speaker 1: If you want to catch any or all of the

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Speaker 1: drama from the JCB Golfing Country Club, follow every shot

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Speaker 1: live on Fox Sports. All Right, Danny Parkins, we got

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Speaker 1: to bring him on about once a month. We've got

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Speaker 1: and talk about this and a bit. I want to

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Speaker 1: start about a story that sometimes in this business, they're

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Speaker 1: little shifts all the time in every business, right, little shifts,

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Speaker 1: and in our business, August used to be a pretty

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks played at least a little. They played a lot

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Speaker 1: going to play any of my good players. People criticize

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Speaker 1: So I blame Sean mcvaigh for making August a really

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Speaker 1: awful month for sports talk radio. But filling in that

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Speaker 1: gap is the WNBA, which has now become a regular topic.

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Speaker 1: I can watch minute to minute our ratings, I can

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Speaker 1: the WNBA stuff moves a meter. So I find it

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Speaker 1: interesting that a lot of people are using this as

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Speaker 1: a reason not to pay the women. Hey, the last

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, it lost money. And my take is, okay,

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Speaker 1: I own the volume. If I had a podcast, let's

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Speaker 2: Well, I want my money back. I'm resigning it to

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Speaker 1: The whole part of this league is, guys, it was

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Speaker 1: Who the hell wants to give up their investment after

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Speaker 2: I find it to be fairly obvious what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: and I don't mean that in an insulting way. Like

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Speaker 2: They have two hundred and fifty million dollar expansion fees.

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Speaker 2: The Golden State Valkyries already have a five hundred million

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Speaker 2: arenas I know not every other team is, and every

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Speaker 2: Like Ernie L's made money off Tiger Woods. Ernie Els

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Speaker 2: So it's clearly a great business to invest in. It's

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Speaker 2: The question is how much more money. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course it would be. But also, like these

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Speaker 2: And so if someone said to you, Danny, you could

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Speaker 2: And I just think that so many people have made

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I think there's only five teams that can

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Speaker 1: All right, John and I are doing It's one o'clock

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Speaker 1: Central right now as we do our podcast as Scottie

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Speaker 1: Scheffler just won the Open and really just he started

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Speaker 1: playing well early in the day and it was over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to start with this because we know he's great.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny. Bryson de Shambo said, I played with

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Speaker 3: Phil Knight Foldham, if you read Shoe Dog, I think

432
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: the last like three or four rounds in Tiger's final

433
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: US Amateur victory and he turned pro immediately after winning

434
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: it for the third straight time. I mean, Tiger Woods

435
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: was a business honestly before he became a make champion

436
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: and then they just kind of colluded together. Scotty Scheffler's

437
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 3: just a great golfer, who said before this week started,

438
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: did you see him go on the ramp for about

439
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: five six minutes about Yeah, Honestly, a lot of people

440
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: had a bunch of different opinions. It reminded me a

441
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 3: lot of football coaches. It's like, you know, we grind,

442
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 3: we grind, we grind, we win, and then we're just

443
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: on to the next one. Belichick did this for twenty

444
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: five years, right you interview him, We're just on to

445
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: the next team. Because everyone's like, oh, Scotty doesn't like golf. No, no,

446
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: Scotty doesn't find that much value, like holding up the trophy.

447
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: It doesn't do much for him, but you don't become

448
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: this good. He likes to grind. He wants no one

449
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: to watch him and just be by himself and play golf,

450
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 3: which I respect.

451
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: Listen, Philip Rivers told me one time, and I was

452
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: surprised he said it. He goes I like the process

453
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Speaker 1: better than the games. He goes building a and Philip

454
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: was the total trash talking grinder, one of the great

455
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: guys that ever played in the NFL. Philip Rivers is like,

456
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: I love building a game plan.

457
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: I love it.

458
00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: That's how I feel.

459
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Speaker 1: Scott Scheffler is he loves the process of it, but

460
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: once he wins, it's like, okay, one, but it's really

461
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: about family in the process. Nick Saban talked about this forever,

462
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: and you've been in my process?

463
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Speaker 2: What would do a radio show?

464
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Speaker 1: I love walking in for two hours and building a show.

465
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: Once I've done that, I know the show.

466
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Speaker 2: Is going to be fine.

467
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: There is something and I think there's a lot of

468
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Speaker 1: people like this. I think there are lawyers like this

469
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: who the courtroom's fine, but it's building the case to

470
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: defend your client. And I think that's that's a common

471
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: thread with greatness. You really like sitting on the range

472
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: for three hours working on your seven and eight iron,

473
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: your rescue club, whatever it is, and so everybody's kind

474
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Speaker 1: of like whoa, whoa, whoa, Scotti, Scheffler, buzzkill. Now he's

475
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: telling you that the process, his love affair is with

476
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Speaker 1: a family, and the process more than holding up a

477
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Speaker 1: trophy on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I also think it would be a turn off, right

479
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: if he wasn't literally winning every time he played. So

480
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: he says mentally showing you like I'm I'm grinding as hard,

481
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: if not harder than everyone out here. I love doing

482
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: this aspect. I just hate everything, especially in twenty twenty

483
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: five that comes along with this. You know who didn't

484
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: like that as much? Tiger Woods, Stevie Williams, his former caddy.

485
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: They broke up after Tiger had the incident in eight,

486
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: talked about this. Forever Tiger would win a tournament, and

487
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: he'd tell him, maybe an hour after winning and doing

488
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: the press conference, is like, see on the range tomorrow

489
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: eight Steven Williams. You know, after a while, it's like, Tiger,

490
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: what what are we talking about? Like, you're not playing

491
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: for a couple more weeks in tournament. Enjoy the week,

492
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: Enjoy tomorrow. Nick Saban Lane Kiffin's told the story forever

493
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: Jim Macka went they would win a national championship and

494
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: the Saban's like, see guys tomorrow a thirty in the

495
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: morning recruiting meeting. It's like, Nick, we just won the

496
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: national championship. He's like, actually it's a seven forty five.

497
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Speaker 3: We'll meet tomorrow in the conference and like, what do

498
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 3: we need to do. Tiger was notorious for that right

499
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 3: of just being on the range the next day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and in retrospect it's easy to say, but the

501
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: truth is, because of the tour in which Tiger Woods

502
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: played with, he would have been much better served to

503
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: take time off. He sorks Ion Williamson like his torque

504
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: I can remember when Tiger was in his prime, and

505
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: you know how a guy will take a shot and

506
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: then then the analysts will look at it in slow motion,

507
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: the golf experts, and they'll break it down. Nothing Tiger

508
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: was doing a golf coach would tell you to do.

509
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he was coming out of his shoes. His

510
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: torque was insane, but it worked for Tiger. He would

511
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: have been much better served, more than any golfer of

512
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: my lifetime, to actually take Monday off because it literally

513
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: big down.

514
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Speaker 3: I think he was the opposite, right, he started lifting harder.

515
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: You know. I think I listened to Hank Haney's book

516
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 3: within the last couple of years, and he thought, you know,

517
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: Tiger a little like Jordan, almost became bored because I'm like,

518
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm winning every tournament. Started doing the Navy Seals training,

519
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: like chasing his dad. Right, it was like a part

520
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: of his life. Like at one point in time, I

521
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: think he believed, I don't know if it was gonna happen,

522
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: he could be a Navy Seal. Started training with them

523
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 3: in San Diego and like messed up his knee and

524
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: that's what happened. A couple years later, in eight this

525
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: was in like five, six oh seven. He's going on

526
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: these long runs with the seals and boots. I mean,

527
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: these guys now are doing cold tubs. They obviously treat

528
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: their bodies. I would say golf has mirrored all these

529
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 3: other sports in terms of all these guys. You know,

530
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: the lifting, the recovery, the eating. You know, it used

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00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 3: to be. Let's face it, even when Tiger early on,

532
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: and Tiger had changed by the last fifteen years when

533
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: the money got so big kind of a beer drinking,

534
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: you can eat cheeseburgers at the turn. I mean that's

535
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: all these guys. Look who their friends are, right, justin

536
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: Thomas hangs out with Michael Jordan, right hangs out with

537
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: football player. I mean they are all kind of interconnected

538
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: now in that circle, Tiger made golf cool. But that's

539
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: where Scotti feels much more like a sixty seventies golfer,

540
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: Like he just wants to go home, be left alone,

541
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: does not want the cameras to follow him. But Colin

542
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: last year he made sixty five million dollars on the course,

543
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: and this year he's won two major. I don't think

544
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: he's gonna make the same amount of moneyotentially, but he's

545
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: going to accumulate in a twenty four month span, probably

546
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: on and off the course. When you factor in Nike

547
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: bonuses being the number one player, I mean you're talking

548
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty million dollars. I mean he's going

549
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: to be paid like he's an NBA a football star

550
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: playing golf. And I think the one thing with his words,

551
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: he's uncomfortable with it a little bit. He's not He

552
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: doesn't like that world. He doesn't want to be a celebrity.

553
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: A lot of times when there's a rumor, John who

554
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: who starts the rumor? So Greg McElroy, a guy who

555
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: I respect greatly, does a great job on I think

556
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: it's w JOX radio in Alabama. Former BAMA quarterback. Greg's

557
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: really smart, really works hard. He s as good at

558
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: college football analyst and I'm talking TV networks.

559
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: He's a good at anybody out there.

560
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: I bring him on the show the Volume a couple

561
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: times a year. He's just sensational. And he said, there's

562
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about Nick and coaching. So that's

563
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I'm guessing here that's coming from his

564
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Alabama sources.

565
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: Well, they all play golf in the same at this point,

566
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: time done there.

567
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: Then Lane Kiffin says, and Lane's one of his closer

568
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: is close to Nick, more more close than many other assistants.

569
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I think my guess is he may

570
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: miss you know, developing young people. He really he loves that.

571
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: So my take is, okay, this is story. So I

572
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: brought Urban Meyer on this week, who is friends with Nick,

573
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: and he said, I don't think he's going back to college,

574
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: but he's gonna He would take NFL calls. And this

575
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: is one of those things where and I told Urban this,

576
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: and Urban hadn't thought about it a lot. But what

577
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: the NIL has done. Coaches thought the NFL, the NIL

578
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: was trouble. I gotta pay my players. Dabosweeney's like, I'm

579
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: not paying my players. That's not college football. It's actually

580
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: been a beneficial additive for coaches. You can't fire Brian

581
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: Kelly or Lincoln Riley if you wanted to, because USC

582
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: just built three hundred million in facilities. They got that

583
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: from the donors. They raised eighteen million dollars a year.

584
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: NIL they got it from donors. To buy out Lincoln

585
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: would be eighty million, and then you'd have to pay

586
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: sixty million to eighty million to get the new coach.

587
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: USC and Southern California, the biggest economy in the country,

588
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: they can't afford it. The idea that Alabama, who is

589
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: struggling to raise fifteen million a year nil, could buy

590
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: out Kalin for seventy and then bring Nick back for

591
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: one hundred million, six year deal. They don't have close

592
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: to that money. Auburn now is raising more money. And

593
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: so my take is with Nick, he's not going to

594
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: college because nobody's buying out their coaches anymore.

595
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: Nick's not coming.

596
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: Back for twelve million two years.

597
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: Nick's coming back. I want.

598
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Speaker 1: I want four years guaranteed, okay, and I want thirteen

599
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: million per year. That's fifty minimum, Jimmy Sexton fifty minimum.

600
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: Well, then you have to buy out your coach. It's

601
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: not happening. But Nick, like Harbaugh.

602
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: Harbaugh had Kaepernick and Alex Smith, and it nod at

603
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: him if I can get the quarterback right, and the

604
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: owner is paying for a staff, which the Spanos family

605
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: finally opened up checkbook for the staff big you know,

606
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: jesse mentor Greg Roman. That's a pay a lot, yeah,

607
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: at and the Spanhos the knocking the Spanos it was fair.

608
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair anymore, but it was fair

609
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: for a long time.

610
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: They're cheap. They're not anymore.

611
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: They pay Herbert, they pay the staff. They built a

612
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: gorgeous new facility in Elvis. It's gorgeous, like they spend money.

613
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: That's an unfair criticism anymore. I thought it was fair

614
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: until about three four years ago. The SOFI deal is

615
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: great for them. They're spending money. But I think Sabin

616
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: looks around and I'll throw this at you. Jimmy HASLM

617
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: loves publicity. They're probably the worst team in the league.

618
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: Arch Manning goes to Cleveland. Manning's no Saban. He coached

619
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: in Cleveland before. They would be the most interesting team

620
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: in the league. He would give him a five year

621
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Speaker 1: what's fifteen times five seventy five million dollar deal? I

622
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: think Nick would do it.

623
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Speaker 3: Well. Here's the thing. Belichick is a good example of right.

624
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: The NFL kind of turned on him, and he was

625
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: open to college. He claims the nil and obviously that's

626
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: an aspect. They're comfortable, but no one tells you what

627
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: to do in college. When he become the football coach

628
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: you have, you're basically the owner if it was the

629
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: equivalent of the NFL. Right, Nick Saban has answered to

630
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: nobody for fifteen plus years. I mean by the time

631
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: year two or three at Alabama when he won, he

632
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: answered to nobody in the NFL. You know, the ad

633
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: in recruiting is not sitting behind you on a chair

634
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: looking over your shoulder. What did we talk about with Shador?

635
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: It was Andrew Berry Stefanski and then Haslam kind of

636
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: right there in the middle. Now, Haslam has spent more

637
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: actual cash than any owner in the league in the

638
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: last four years in terms of signing bonus, so financially,

639
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: he would be the equivalent of like University of Texas

640
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: in terms of the pros. Right, he is spending an

641
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: ungodly amount of money, so people would be attracted to

642
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: his willingness to kind of he'll manipulate the salary cap

643
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: for you. But he's extremely involved. And Nick has had

644
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: I mean his nickname, right, I mean Nick Tator, Like

645
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: he answers to nobody, and in fairness, his decisions are

646
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: usually correct. I think I saw that you talked to

647
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: Breer about Dallas. I'm not saying that some of these

648
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: owners would not sniff around, probably already have made some contact. Hey,

649
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: just big picture, it's called business. I just wonder, like,

650
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: would he answer to Jimmy Haslam or Jerry giving him

651
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: constant football ideas? Remember Belichick. Probably it might have been

652
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: the year he was off started listing off stories. I

653
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: think to like McAfee about different times owners storm in

654
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: and give different ideas, like, hey, are we sure defense?

655
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: He used to talk about the Cleveland experience, like we

656
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: know what we're doing on defense, and Bill would be like,

657
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 3: Nick Saban's are defensive coordinator?

658
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: You idiot?

659
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: You know?

660
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: So?

661
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 3: I just love these guys. It's unlike any business where

662
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 3: a family like the Haslms, who are clearly successful area whoever,

663
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: in whatever industry they're in, even if they are football

664
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: people and love the sport, you can't speak the language

665
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: in terms of like football language, which is extremely complicated,

666
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: especially once you get in season with schematic stuff. I

667
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: just think it becomes really complicated for a guy like Nick,

668
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 3: who's you know, I don't know, made hundreds of millions

669
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: of dollars to then answer to someone, and I don't

670
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: care who you are in the NFL, you still somewhat

671
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: have to answer. I mean, you talk to all these

672
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: GMS a lot. I'm sure what they bitch to you

673
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 3: about is like God, the owner, he's in my ass

674
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: about this and this, And it's not always just like

675
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: the star quarterback. It could be the stupidest stuff, and

676
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: they spend a lot of their time. It's when GMS

677
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: go on an interview and they say, you know, you

678
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: have to realize that you can't just sit in a

679
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: room and watch film. What they're essentially saying is I'm

680
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: getting pulled in a bunch of different directions and whenever

681
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: that call or that guy walks in, you don't have

682
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: a choice. You drop everything you're doing for the owner.

683
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: So and that Jimmy has them is extremely involved. But

684
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: I'm with you, nick Abe and Jimmy haslam in two

685
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: thousand and what year are we in twenty five? That's

686
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: so that would be like January of twenty twenty six,

687
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: signed me up. Now we got a long way to go.

688
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: I think saving it would be more realistic then. Like

689
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: arch Manning, I'm excited as anybody, but like he's played

690
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: two games, so I know, you know, is he gonna

691
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: be a great player? I don't know. It's the SEC's

692
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: really hard. They're still open up with Ohio State. He

693
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: has an insane amount of pressure and he's it's not

694
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: his fault. He's saying all the right things. Stark's saying

695
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 3: all the right things, but it's everyone else. It's gonna

696
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: be pretty intense. And the other thing, this quarterback class

697
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: like good players at that position, even in his own conference,

698
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: that are pretty well established, that has been starting for

699
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: a couple of years. Let's just see like is he

700
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 3: uh does he throw thirty five touchdowns? Or is this

701
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: year work in progress? He doesn't need the money, so

702
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: even if he is really good, he's on a lock

703
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: to go. Bro Peyton Manninghal went back to school in

704
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: the late nineties. He easily could after nil. So I

705
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: think think he would have to have like one of

706
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: the great seasons in college football history too for me

707
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: to feel comfortable like he would be a lot to

708
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: come out. If you just tell me, hey, they're in

709
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: the final four, he has a good season, he's like

710
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: second team all SEC. I could one hundred percent to

711
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: see him coming back to school. His two uncles did

712
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: it like college football did that family. For a family

713
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: that's obviously known for NFL stuff and financially really successful

714
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: means a lot to that family, right, It's I mean

715
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: it meant a lot to Eli. Goes back to Ole

716
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: Miss all the time. His dad's a huge part of all.

717
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: Miss Peyton's constantly in Tennessee. I think I just saw

718
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: a story his son is that Marshall is Trent. I

719
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: thought he lived in Denver's gonna play high school football

720
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: in Tennessee a lot. They have a lot of passion

721
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: for college football. And I don't care who you are.

722
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: When you're around your uncles and your dad, like stuff

723
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: rubs off on you, and I can imagine it means

724
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: a lot. It's good to be a multi year starter

725
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: at Texas is a lot. Do you won and done not?

726
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: That's not special, But I think playing for two or

727
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: three years is a really big deal. Look at Matt

728
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: Leiner and you're you know, in LA like, He's still

729
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: a huge part of that program. He's parlayed it even

730
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: though his NFL career didn't go great. So I don't

731
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: think Arch is some lock even if it goes well

732
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: to go pro. Yeah.

733
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: The one guy, I said, Drew Aller's the one guy

734
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: at Penn State where I watched him a couple of

735
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: years ago. And I'm like, he's just not he's not

736
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: buttoned up, he's loose, he's not accurate. And then I

737
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: watched him last year and I was like, oh, that's

738
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: a first round quarterback. If he makes the same jump

739
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: this year and gets to like sixty eight percent completion

740
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: percentage with his size, that is a big time player.

741
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: He You know, we forget this all the time. These

742
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: guys are like twenty one, you know, like and now

743
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: they're in an NIOL world where there's a little bit

744
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: of pressure, like they're buying pizza, right, guys, I got

745
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: all the money so and Penn State's got an nil.

746
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: That's you know, reasonably noteworthy.

747
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: So no, I think Oklahoma feels that that Washington State

748
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: John Mattier. I mean, I would say the they're very

749
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: bullish on his prospects. I know NFL people are very

750
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: very excited, and obviously Oklahoma I think they think they're

751
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: going to be a lot better. They paid for a

752
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 3: lot of money and transfer portal they bring in this quarterback.

753
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 3: So you start comparing Matier and Arch and Materier already

754
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 3: has a year starting at Washington State, so he's played

755
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: a lot, and I understand Washington State in twenty twenty

756
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: four is not what it used to be. But still

757
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: he's played like Arch hasn't really played. He played the

758
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: two games against Nobody's and thrown in against Georgia, which

759
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 3: is not his fault. They just went with Quinn yours.

760
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: But you know that the conference in the SEC, which

761
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: I would say over the last fifteen years has been

762
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: more a positional conference. They've had a couple of good

763
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: quarterbacks this year. From a quarterback standpoint, Florida's got a quarterback,

764
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: South Carolina's got a quarterback, Oklahoma's got a quarterback. Obviously,

765
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: Texas as a quarterback access. It's it's gonna be a

766
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: pretty fascinating kind of little quarterback group. And then well

767
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: you know Alabama, Georgia and one of those teams at

768
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: nuss Meyer at LSU, you know, is viewed as a potential, yes,

769
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: top twenty pick. So it's a pretty good quarterback conference

770
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: this year. And we know they always got defensive lineman,

771
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: skilled guys dbs. I think the SEC is going to

772
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: be pretty interesting from a quarterback stamp point, because you know,

773
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: you look at the Big ten. I don't Ohio State

774
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: their quarterback. You know, it's pretty big shoes to fill,

775
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: I mean, will hour down the stretch looked like Peyton Manning. Obviously,

776
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: Michigan paid the kid twenty million dollars or whatever. It's

777
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: it's difficult

778
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: The volume