1 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: I did Alex Cooper's podcast. Now, I met her twice 2 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: because I did her tour, and I was impressed by 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: her backstage work ethic on something as seemingly superficial as 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: social media, but it's literally a massive part of her business. 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: It promotes her podcast, and she's very good at it, 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: and she's a regular poster and it's part of her 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: business model. And so backstage on one of those shows, 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: we don't have the exact same process. But since day 9 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: one of doing this, I've never seen someone more like 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: minded than myself in social media posted in the way 11 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: they approach it, not all day every day, but in 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: the moment of the creativity, of the execution, of the 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: perfectionism of how it's going to be done, of the 14 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: she's really driving the way it's going down for the 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: most part. But it was game met game, and I 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: recognized her gangster and I liked it. Okay, that said, 17 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: watching clips on the internet, she's a podcaster. She's done 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: very well for herself. She must be business savvy. She 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: seems to have a good work ethic. She's thorough. She's 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: literally interviewed Michelle Obama, she's interviewed with Kim Kardashian and 21 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Charlie's Throne and many many people. 22 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: But so have other people. 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: And I've been interviewed by many of these other people 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: that are like the shows, the talk shows, the podcasts, etc. 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: And in many cases the interview is good. Sometimes it's fun, 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's light and bright. Sometimes it's popcorn, sometimes it's 27 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: junk food, and often it's enjoyable. I could talk to 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: a wall. But in the case of Alex Cooper, in 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: watching just clips on social media, which is all I 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: had seen, she could make it look easy, like it's 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: not that big of a deal. 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: It's not that hard, you know. She's like more fluffy. 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Like there's certain fluffy interviews over the years, Like you're 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna go in and talk about a miscarriage. You might 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: anecdotally discuss it with Ellen, but that was not where 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: you went to do that. You might talk about a 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: new book or laugh at her, or I did talk 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: about relief because she's interested in it, But that's not 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: where you're gonna get like the deep, hard hitting interview. 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: You're not gonna talk to Andy Cohen about your divorce. 41 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: You might have to because you're on the Housewives, but 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: like it's fluffy junk food journalism. You're not gonna do 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: a sit down like meaningful what used to be Matt 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: Law or Katie Kuric interview with Andy Cohen and watch 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: What Happens Live. That's when you talk about you know, 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: your tit that popped out at a cocktail party, or 47 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: who you slept with, or your fraud charges, because they're 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: fodder for. 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: You know, good television. 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: So in going to Alex Cooper, I didn't really prepare 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: for it, and I don't think ahead about what I'm 52 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: going to be asked or what I want to say 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: or promote. In that case, I literally went in with 54 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: a blank screen. As a side note, she was interested 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: in dating, and it turned into like twelve minutes which 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: ended up being about my dating concept, which ended up 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: being a fuck and fire drow and I left there 58 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: to have to like figure out a strategy to get 59 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: something up and running with this dating concept by the 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: time her interview aired, which was two weeks later, and 61 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg had asked me to talk about it, and so 62 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: now I was fucking under the gun. And I hired 63 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: one of the massive, massive, multi billion dollar app company coos. 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: He had been at two of these So anyway, I've 65 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: got my game teed up, but still it's very much 66 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: a startup and it's nascent stage. I don't know exactly 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: what it is or it's going to be. But because 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: of Alex Cooper, the Oprah Winfrey of the younger generation, 69 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: of the younger female generation, I caught up, but I digress. 70 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: So Alex Cooper interviews me, and I'm thinking it's going 71 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: to be like deep interview light you know, Okay, what 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: happened was very different. What happened which made me want 73 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: to close down this podcast and like never do it again, 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: because I have fun with you guys. When I've interviewed 75 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to the point. This is all the 76 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: four play I've interviewed Matthew McConaughey and Hillary Clinton, and 77 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: it's gotten no more downloads than when I talk to 78 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: you about my bra. So like I enjoy sitting down 79 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: and just emoting and ranting and telling you things that 80 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm going through or opining on things that matter and 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: don't matter, or pop culture or bullshit or discounts or 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: dating or your vagina or whatever. Like this is just 83 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: what I like. This is who I am. I don't 84 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: want to feel shackled by a podcast. I said that 85 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: on the Toast when I was like, wait, this is 86 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: like her main flagship store and I have a different 87 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: flagship store. She's great at it, and like I was 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: impressed by the way she interviewed. I'm talking about when 89 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: I was on the Toast, but that's not my day 90 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: to day because I don't like to be sitting down. 91 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't like cards, I don't like to be shackled. 92 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: I like to be completely unbridled and free. So I 93 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: sit down with Alex Cooper and I think I'm like 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: crying in minutes. I don't know why she started out 95 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: with the way she started out, and I don't know 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: why she asked the thing that she asked, but I 97 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: like feel myself getting emotional minutes into this interview with 98 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: Alex Cooper. The cute like blonde from Boston with blue eyes. 99 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: It's in a sweat and I'm like, what the fuck 100 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: is going on? And there were many questions that she 101 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: didn't ask me that I would have thought someone would 102 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: have asked me. She really couldn't have given a shit 103 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: about like housewives, gossip, or a lot of things. I 104 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: would have thought that she would ask like, she didn't 105 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: go for clickbait, like there will be clickbait. She's not stupid, 106 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: she will find in mind clickbait. But she didn't go 107 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: to catch me in something, and she didn't go to 108 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: like get me to say something that would make you 109 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. I'll watch what Happens live where you're like 110 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: under your covers and have to like live it for 111 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: four days because it was something said out of context, 112 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: or got you to say something bad about someone that 113 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: you had no issue with, but now you do have 114 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: an issue with them because you just answered her question 115 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: completely honestly, And he would never get in trouble for 116 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: the bait of making you trash someone else. And yet 117 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: here this woman wasn't trying at all to bait you. 118 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: She just had a natural curiosity for my life and 119 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: my life story. And because she didn't try to bait me, 120 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: and because we were having a real meaningful conversation, she 121 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: got more out of me then maybe anybody ever has. 122 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: Like it was an actual interview. I was so guard down. 123 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: Am I slightly worried that I'll say something like I 124 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: invented the skinny margarita, which I did, or I started 125 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: the monetization of reality TV on the Housewives, even before 126 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, shows like The Kardashians, which I did, and 127 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: I don't need like a bunch of like, oh, she 128 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: thinks she's a second coming and all the shit because 129 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: of the way that some of the questions were asked. 130 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: Maybe, but who cares? 131 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: Like I sat down and most importantly, I enjoyed myself 132 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: and I was emotionally and mentally challenged. I had to 133 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: actually sit down and process and go deep. But it 134 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: could have gone on for ten hours. I really enjoyed it, 135 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: as did she. Like we were deep, we were in 136 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: the pocket, as they say, we were in the zone, 137 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: in the hole. 138 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: It was vibing. 139 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: And now I don't know if what comes out in 140 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: the world when you watch it is something when you 141 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: see the clips, you're gonna think is like, oh, she's 142 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: just a cute like you know interviewer, but like she's 143 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: not blah blah blah. I've been interviewed by Chelsea Handler, 144 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: Howard Stern, Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, Matt Lower, 145 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: Katie Couric, Lara Spencer, everyone, Like. I can't really think 146 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: of many people that I haven't been interviewed by this 147 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: bitch is good in a different way. She was as 148 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: good as Howard Stern. You know, there are many great interviews, 149 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: and she's entertaining and it's great, and her shock value 150 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: is wonderful. This woman deserves her flowers. Like I literally 151 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: at the end said, like, I don't even want to 152 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: go back to my podcast. I do because I love 153 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: you guys, and I love talking to you guys, but 154 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: like it's a different level, Like it's okay, Alex Cooper 155 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: to her podcast is what I was to housewives. Yes 156 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: there are other people with podcasts, and yes, other podcasts 157 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: are wonderful, but like she is fucking Michael Jordan and 158 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: then there's everybody else. For my purview, I don't do listen. 159 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: I haven't been on the one with the three guys SmartLess, 160 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: you know. 161 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: I haven't been on Joe Rogan, you know, But. 162 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to be on and do a comparison 163 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: because I'm not a dummy and I know a good interviewer. 164 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: So either she was in the pocket that day with 165 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: me because the subject matter she related to, or she 166 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: just is in the pocket and makes it look easy. 167 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: And by the way, having been on Ellen twenty five times. 168 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: Literally, that's not easy either. 169 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: She made it look easy running around in the games 170 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: and it's next and come up and laughing and surprises 171 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 1: and jumping out of the box. It's not an easy 172 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: thing to do. It's not an easy thing to do. 173 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: But this is a different breed and a different animal, 174 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: and I respected it and I'm giving her her flowers. 175 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: I really really am. 176 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: And for me, I used to make jokes about me 177 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: as a creator and say it's a garage band. It 178 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: is no longer a garage band. It is very much 179 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: a real business sometimes with you guys. In the best 180 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: possible way, I feel like this is just a garage band. 181 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: It's like my own little, you know, garage band. It's 182 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: the way that I need to and love to do it. 183 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't love sitting down being shackled with I'm supposed 184 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: to ask someone get things. I'm supposed to get clickbait, 185 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to get clicked on. It's like, I just 186 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: like talking to you guys and bullshitting. That's what I like. 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: So that's what it is, Okay. 188 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: I've been wanting to talk about people who are. 189 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: Having another chapter or creating a new chapter, like I've 190 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: watched Lisa Rinna and be in fashion Week and her 191 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: daughters or models and her wardrobe change drastically on the Housewives, 192 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: and she evolved into something different, and I think she's 193 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: done different campaigns and she goes to Paris and wears 194 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: like big, very avant garde, elaborate, very it's fashion, it's 195 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: cauture honey clothes, and I think that's good. I think 196 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: it's nice for someone to have their next chapter and 197 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: do things that they're interested in. And maybe it started 198 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: as a hobby and then she gets to monetize it, 199 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: or it's just a passion project, or you know, like myself, 200 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: you get to be of a certain age and just 201 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: like redefine what you're doing because maybe you've made some money, 202 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: or maybe your kids are grown, or you're just more 203 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: creative because you're not as goal oriented, and then differ 204 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: and things come. I don't know if this is a 205 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: real career or if this is just a hobby, but 206 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: it seems like she's probably going to make some money 207 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: on it or at least have a great time doing 208 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: it. It seems like Derinda is djaying. I haven't seen her, actually, 209 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: dj I've just seen her like with the headphones on 210 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: and maybe at events or talking about it or but 211 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: I like, good for her, like go on, like these 212 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: are people who made it onto Housewives and this is 213 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: the next chapter. And I love that it's different because 214 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: Melissa is still on the show, but her is a 215 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: Sprinkle Cookies. But that's different because she's still on the show. 216 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: So people are criticizing the met gala because it's evolving, 217 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: it's changing, and someone was liked, has it jumped the shark? 218 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, what's shark? No, they always criticized it. 219 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: They criticized it because it's some Carl Lagerfeld theme and 220 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: I guess either he was racist or there was some 221 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: problem with him. 222 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: I don't remember what it was. 223 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: Every year it's new thing that gets criticized, the theme, 224 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: the people, the hosts, every past but yet every year 225 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: everyone's watching and it gets bigger and bigger. Okay, everyone 226 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: wants to criticize Anna Winter or she's a fucking HBI 227 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: C and she's moved on from Vogue, And at that point, 228 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: Lauren Sanchez was I think on the cover of Vogue, 229 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: and I think that they might be friends or I'm 230 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: sure Lauren and Jeff have donated in some way, and 231 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: people criticize that. I don't know what the hell people 232 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: think Vogue is, but it's a for profit institution and 233 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: there are very few things that are preserved in whatever 234 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: they started as. And if this was preserved in what 235 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: it started as, the met galowis people in just nice gowns. 236 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: Tom Ford didn't like when it became pomp and circumstance, 237 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: when it became costumes, but that's what it is now, 238 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: that's evolution. Housewives started with me in a freaking hand 239 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: me down cashmeir sweater and no makeup. Now it's people 240 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: wearing ABCDFG head to toe and like full costumes to 241 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: go nowhere. 242 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,119 Speaker 2: No one had glam when I was coming. 243 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: Up, like glam a big crazy disruption, and now it's 244 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: like there's never kno glam, and now there's never not 245 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: stylists and like, that's evolution. So the meccala like every 246 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: other fucking thing in the world, like crumble cookies, like 247 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: Starbucks having food. Now, like everything that has ever existed 248 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: for a profit, the mechcala has evolved. Okay, Lauren Sanchez 249 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: was on the cover. People had a big problem with it. Okay, 250 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: why why she's now well known. Okay, Oh, where did 251 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: she come from? She just married someone wealthy. Okay, well, 252 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian started with a sex tape. 253 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: Guess what. 254 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: Let's not take away from her and her family that 255 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: they are the Kennedy's and they're fucking gangsters, and they're 256 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: making tons of money and are moving markets and are 257 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: creating influence and have power. 258 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: Like it or not, that's a fact. These are facts. Okay. 259 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: They're moving product and influence in this country. They've got 260 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: television shows, They've got scripted television shows with big name 261 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: brands like Hulu and Ryan Murphy. 262 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so get on or get out of the way. 263 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: So Laurence Sanchez married Jeff Bezos, one of the most 264 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: powerful wealthy men in the world, and they glowed each 265 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: other up. 266 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: That was a merger. That was like Kim and Kanye. 267 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: When the sum was greater than its parts, like George 268 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: and Amal, when the sum is greater than its parts, 269 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: like David Beckham and Victoria, when the sum was greater 270 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: than its parts, Blake Lively and Ryan some greater than parts. 271 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: Like it or don't, it's a fact. These are facts. 272 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: So she marries Jeff she has her own program. He's 273 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: got his own program. He's an icon, he's a mogul. 274 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: She likes fashion. Okay, she wasn't a fashionista before. Neither 275 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: was Kim Kardashian. Kanye leveled up her fashion game. Neither 276 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: was Lisa, Rinna, Erika, Jane and the Housewives leveled her 277 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: fashion game up. People are allowed to have been something different. Okay, 278 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: So Laurence into fashion. Now she can afford different fashion. 279 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: Now she can go to Paris Fashion Week. Now it's 280 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: a trained art. No one was born out of the 281 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: vagina with a stylist. 282 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 283 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: All these people in Hollywood have stylists anyway, So it's 284 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: bullshit or it's not like it's fashion, but it's fashion 285 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: that's trained, taught, bought, sought and styled. So Laurence Sanchez 286 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: marries Jeff, she's in Vogue. People are I guess why? 287 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: No one knows, who cares? Who's anyone? Who is anyone? 288 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: Okay? 289 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: So now she's on the cover and now she and 290 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: Jeff are hosting the Metala. 291 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: Good they'll find a way to level it up and 292 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: donate it. 293 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: Where is the core preserved original sour dough starter culture? 294 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: Everyone's trying to preserve Charlie d'milia or the other one, 295 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: Addison Ray or Charlie Demilia. They were at the Mechala. 296 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: They're influencers. That's a new era, that's a new genre. 297 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: So guess what coming from Hollywood being married to one 298 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: of the most powerful, successful, brilliant tech people in the 299 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: world and then hosting the metch gala. Okay, Kim Kardashian 300 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: and the bar that she didn't pass the bar? JFK Junior. 301 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: I think a couple of times didn't pass the bar. 302 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Who cares? I could not get through the online real 303 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: estate exam. Okay, some people think I'm very smart. Mark 304 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Cuban like is quoted as being like she's one of 305 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: the great marketing geniuses. Like Kevin O'Leary would say I'm smart. 306 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: The head of CIA would saym smart. Jeff Bezos, I 307 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: had dinner with him. I said a couple of things. 308 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: He would probably say, I'm smart. Okay, I'm not sure. 309 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: I think I'm relatively smart. 310 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 311 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm very smart in certain ways. Okay, I could not 312 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: get through the quizzes at the end of the real 313 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: estate exam online. I was frustrated. I would fail. I 314 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: would go back, they would tell you the answer, I'd 315 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: go back and fail again. 316 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: I stopped. I quit. 317 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't get a real estate exam, which would save 318 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: me so much money, because I've flipped so many properties. Literally, 319 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: during the pandemic, I moved like six properties. I have 320 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: done a lot of real estate for a normal person, 321 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: for like a normal civilian, I could not so. Kim 322 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: Kardashian smart, has been smart, has good work ethic. People 323 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: say she's nice, she shows up on time, She's very 324 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: fucking successful. I don't care if she doesn't pass the 325 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: bar a hundred times. I don't know that the bar 326 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: is an indication of intelligence any more than that real 327 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: estate exam is. Because I hated it and I failed 328 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: the quizzes, and I never went back like I hated it.