WEBVTT - Mailbag - Marvel, HOTD, and more! 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.840 Warning. This podcast contains spoilers for House of the Dragon, 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:05.640 the first four phases of the e FCU, a little 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.039 bit of Star Wars, and a bunch of other stuff. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.800 My name is Jason gets Epsion and I'm Rosy Night 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:32.920 and welcome next to Revision, the Crooked Media podcast where 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:37.680 we dive deep been to your favorite shows, movies, comics 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.960 and pop culture. In this episode, it's a mailbag, folks. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.000 And in the nut out we go listen to Swati pitches. 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:50.280 Netflix is amazing, she Ra reboot she Rah. If you 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.199 want to jump around, check the show notes for the 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:53.440 time stamps. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.640 Of course. And the first thing we're gonna do is 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.000 open up the airlock and get into your mailbag. Here 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:10.320 we go. We are stepping out of the airlock, and 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.479 we are opening up the flap on the beautiful bag 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:19.040 of wonderful missives that we have received from you as 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.559 we step into the blessed year of our Lord twenty 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.720 twenty three. So let's just start. Let's start with John 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:31.319 and Brett. John and Brett ask, do we get doomed 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.560 before Fantastic four? Like a post credit in Quantumnia or 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.640 something else? Who should they cast? Please you and Rosie 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.520 vamp on the Good Doctor Rosie. This is an interesting question. 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.880 I have thoughts, yes, so many thoughts. I truly do 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:52.440 believe that there was a version of Wakanda Forever that 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.320 would have ended with a Doctor Doom post credit scene. 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.920 I believe that would have fit. I believe it makes 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:03.240 sense with the more with the connections to Wakanda and 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.880 you know, the now known as Talakhan. But so I 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.320 do believe that we will see Doctor Doom before we 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:15.119 meet the Fantastic Four. He's one of Marvel's most incredible villains, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.480 and Marvel Studios has never been able to make a 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.959 movie with him in because of the licensing to Fox. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.600 So I think that's a character they can't get wrong 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:29.240 and that they know could be their kind of next 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:34.720 level fanos, this kind of overarching god Emperor Doom. He 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.520 can be the ally who turns into a villain. He 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:42.080 can be your average kind of sort of small level 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.720 villain that you don't see coming that becomes this huge, 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.160 omnipotent kind of foe. So I think I think we're 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:50.640 going to see him. I would love to see him 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.760 in Quantumania. Do I think he's going to be that soon? 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:54.840 I don't know, what do you think. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.520 I don't think we see him proper in Quantumania, But 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.359 I do think that the way they could introduce Doom, 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.880 if they were going to do it, is like as 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.880 an image in the background. We know that the version 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.080 of Kang that we met and Loki was, you know, 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.960 trying to keep the different malevolent versions himself from coming 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.840 to the fore. I would imagine that this Kang, this 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:17.959 may be more aggressive. Kang is also trying to keep 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:22.040 different multiversal threats from threatening his power. And I would 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.959 imagine that, like if he was telling Scott the story 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.160 of how he came to be, he might mention some 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.440 of these threats and we could see like an image 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.760 of doctor Doom's mask, like in a computer screen somewhere. Yeah, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.960 I think I would be I would not I would 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.120 not be totally shocked if that happened. And I think 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.240 that's the way they do it. I think it's kind 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.520 of quick because obviously casting like we don't know, I 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.520 don't know how like, and I feel like, who knows, 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.440 They're so good at keeping this shit quiet. But I 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.800 also feel like if they had cast Doom by now, 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.920 there would be something more than the kind of you know, 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.680 Genior Carlo Esposido rumors and the Adam Driver rumors that 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.640 are kind of out there, like we probably hear some 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:04.840 pretty loud whispers. So in lieu of having like an 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:09.200 actual cameo guest spot where you see him and don't 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.400 hear his voice or hear somebody's voice that they've cast 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:13.920 but we haven't had the news yet, I think that 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:18.359 you'll just get a very very very small clue to 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.640 the existence of Doom in the form of like a 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:24.839 picture of his armor in the context of like all 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.080 these other versions of Kang that that have existed throughout 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:29.279 the multiverse and throughout time. 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.360 Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense, especially 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.000 if you think about how they introduced you know, Fanos 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.880 in the original MCU. You have that incredible Damian Pointier ending, 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.640 but he doesn't say anything, and then when they wanted 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.240 to they could recost him. I still think it was 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.279 a mistake, even though I love Josh Berlin. But you know, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.719 it would be easy for them to do a mosque 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.800 you don't see who's behind it, you can get an implication, 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.680 and then you can reveal this actually does lead to 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.800 one of So they also wanted to know who it 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.480 had cost. Right. This leads to one of my favorite 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:58.680 things that I've been thinking about a lot. 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.880 Tell me, so, William. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.760 Jackson Harper from the Good Place and Midsomer he got cast. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.760 He got cast in Quantamania. Now a lot of people 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:09.719 were like, Oh, maybe he's gonna play Reid. I would 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.960 love that casting. It's delightful, But I actually think I 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:18.480 think he's gonna play Nathaniel Richards. I think he's gonna 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.599 be Yeah. I think because I think that they're gonna 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.279 go young for the Fantastic Four as much as my 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.600 original fan casting that I did a couple of years ago, 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:30.240 one nerdict was them older. It was like Keanu Reeves 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.320 and and all these different kinds of people as older versions, 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.479 because I like that story. But I think it's this 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.640 is their next generation of heroes. I think they're gonna 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.919 go young. So I think William Jackson Harper's gonna play Nathaniel, 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:44.000 who obviously then you've got Kang being the descendant, and 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.760 that sets up Black Read, which we kind of all 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.520 thought was gonna be the route that they go. And 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.200 I think that could be so cool because then you 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.560 get to see these different generations of the Richards and. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:58.960 Just to quick download for those not first in the 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.760 history of Kang and and Read and the fantasy for 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:07.000 a marvel years. Nathaniel Richards is a descendant of Read 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:13.320 Richards from the thirtieth century who board with the completely 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:19.360 u topic and peaceful existence of the thirtieth century, decides 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.599 to travel through time where he can get into some trouble. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.480 He finds a time machine. He goes back to ancient 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.640 Egypt and becomes, you know, the predecessor of the person 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.840 who then becomes Kang, starting the king journey basically, so 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:39.640 if that is correct, do they cheat kind of? And 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:43.360 do Jonathan Major's Read Richards? Is that a cheat? 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.599 Is that one of the most Christians? 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:48.200 I think that's on the tape. 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.440 I think it's on the table. I'm interested, So I 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.200 think one of my me and my my friend James, 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.760 we have a lot of fantastic four thoughts, my oneful 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.400 friend James, and we have some some fancst things that 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.640 we do for our own fun. But one of the 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.120 ones that really stuck with me for Doom that I 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.880 think about a lot that I think could work really 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.360 well with this is and it's unexpected because he's quite 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.560 he's not a looming tall figure, but he's very serious, 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.080 and I think you'd be very good. I think you 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:21.080 could do a great John David Washington Doom. And I 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:26.520 like that. I like the idea of having this Fantastic 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:32.560 four and Kang kind of storyline become this unexpected space 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.840 for all these incredible black actors in the MCU, especially 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.880 because you know, Kang is not I love Kang, but 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.320 he's not particularly like well known character. And Jonathan Major's 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.800 has already brought so much gravitas and kind of texture 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.400 and weirdness to that role, so I'm expecting them to 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.600 kind of follow on and do unexpected casting. But yeah, 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.680 I love I love thinking about who they're going to 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.600 cast as doctor Doo. My original fan cast that I 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:02.440 did was Keanu is an older read Richards who'd been 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:06.600 stuck in the negative zone. And then young doctor Doom, 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.480 who is going to be Adam Driver, who now isn't 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.840 really that young. But I do think Doom Adam Driver 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.320 is like, that's a really interesting casting just because of 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.400 how great he was as Kylo Wren. He bought so 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.160 much weird, strange emotion to that that I think Doom 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.120 has obviously Mage Michelson. That's like the iconic Doom casting 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.680 that I think a lot of people kind of immediately 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:27.600 jump to their heads. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.480 I like all of those. I like the g and 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.280 Carlo Esposito kind of like rumor that is out there. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:35.600 I do. Let me ask you this because this is 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.840 something I've been thinking about, what Kang's coming first, right 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.720 before or any of the Fantastic Four, before Doctor Jiam, etcetera. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:48.960 What I've been wondering about the relationship between Kang and Doom, like, 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.800 is does care you know, we know understand that Kang 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.680 has been, at least the Kang that we met in 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.920 Loki existed to kind of keep the multiverse pruned and 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:07.440 kind of streamlined in order to keep the rise of 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.360 various versions, more warlike versions of himself from coming to 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.520 the fore. I've been wondering if along those lines, Kang 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.720 is not like in this kind of multiversal struggle against 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.720 Doom as well, like he's trying, like, yeah, I not 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.800 trying to keep Doom from showing up. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.720 I think that's a really interesting take, and I wish 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.559 I could remember. For the life of me, I do 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.840 not remember whether this was my close friend somebody who 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.200 DMed me something I read online. I saw an absolutely 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:38.199 wild theory that leans into that, which is like the 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:43.000 MCU as we know it is basically God Emperor Doom's 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.079 version of the Marvel Universe that. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.920 He is a controlling and then the mindful. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.960 It would be so crazy, right, And then you have 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.560 the idea of Kang basically trying to undo the MCU 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.760 because he wants to get it out of Doom's control. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.120 I think that's so wild, but absolutely love it. And 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.040 I feel like we're going into a world now where 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.319 it's we don't know what's going to happen. But I 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.720 think I think that the nature of Kang being someone 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:14.280 who is so many different people, so many different versions 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:18.800 of a person, so many different iterations, that leans into 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.080 the empathetic That means there are versions of him who 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.000 want to do the right thing. And so I think 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:27.760 pitting him against Doom and they'm almost being kind of 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:32.320 equals in power is very interesting and I think quite likely. So, 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:36.079 you know, I think that the way they do the 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:40.200 quantum realm in the MCU is very similar. We've talked 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.400 about this before, you know, to the negative zone. So 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.680 I think that there's a big chance that there's already 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:49.440 been some kind of If Kang has lived every life 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.720 and every multiverse possible, he's probably already met doom. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.880 Oh for sure. I mean the thing that so when 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.199 you reference God and Purdum again for us who don't know, 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.560 this is, uh, this is the doom that after the 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:07.960 kind of collapse of all the multiverses, molded reality in 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.239 the image that he wanted and basically controlled the universe 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:17.840 for the period of time that is that is shown 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.959 in the crossover event, the Secret warst crossover event, the 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:25.000 Higman's version of the Secret Wars Crossover event. And man, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.800 I think it would be I think it's too much 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.480 of all this didn't happen. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.360 Yeah, it's too much of it was a dream. 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:37.360 But it's also like it's also really man, that would 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.199 be incredible if they did it right, if they if 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.520 it was you know, because like they've kind of gestured 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.240 at least at the time runs out storyline and the 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.280 kind of collapse of all the multiverses. We saw that 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.280 in Doctor Stranger of the Multiverse of Madus and some 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.960 other kind of like little snipbets of imagery where you 0:11:55.000 --> 0:12:01.600 see like galaxies, this image of galaxy and these incursions. Yeah, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.920 the actual usage of the term incursions, which sets up 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.679 the time runs out storyline, I mean that is that 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.760 is kind of there. I do wonder if I wonder 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.520 if we're gonna get incursions before we get Doom, or 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:20.920 if they're gonna set up if we're gonna see Doom 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:26.320 before we actually get incursions. I'm not sure they even know, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.120 but like that, there's a lot of pathways to get 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:34.079 to Doom. And there's also the like to your point, 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:39.200 let's say they go young with the fantastic forecasting. Do 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.040 we see them? Do we see like a more down 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:47.120 to earth just kind of not run of the mill, 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:51.560 but a more standard comic book Baddie Doom in his 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:56.559 early evolution, you know, post the scarring, post read Richards, 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.880 you know, from Doom's perspective, reads Meddling in his experiment, 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.560 He's got this. Maybe they're both like tech bro guys, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:04.800 and that. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.080 Does sound like the easy way to go. I hope 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:08.760 they do something a little bit different. But I do 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.360 think I do hope that. I think now that I mean, 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.600 in the much maligned fan for stick as we call it, 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.520 because the logo had a four in the middle for 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.640 some unknown reason. The most recent Fantastic Four movie, you know, 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.320 they did it that Doom was like a Hacker, which 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.120 actually was like kind of even felt dated then. But 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.920 I think that that idea, that is the thing that 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.800 gives me the biggest hope for them being slightly aged 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:35.920 up is because we've already seen the young Fantastic Four 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.439 done and it didn't necessarily coalesce in the way people 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.880 would have wanted, even though obviously like Michael B. Jordan 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:47.320 as Johnny Storm is like icon level casting. Yeah, but yeah, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.640 I'm very interested to see the route that they go. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:54.000 And I think that's the biggest question when it comes 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:58.079 to casting, is are we seeing are the Fantastic Four 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.920 going to be aged up? They already exist, they've you know, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:03.439 a long time. This is what I was saying. I 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:04.920 used to say it when I worked in the comic shop. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.360 I'm still saying it now. I had always wanted a 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.400 you know, back then it was like Taika way Titi 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.360 and he's directing a sixties Fantastic Four movie where they 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.440 get thrown into the future and it's a fish out 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.920 of water story. Those rumors are now going around that 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.040 that might be what happens, in which case they already 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.640 have to be established, and we do have the X 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.440 Men as the young heroes potentially coming into the MCU. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.920 But I still think, why wouldn't they want twenty year 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.440 olds so they can still be doing it in twenty years? 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.400 You know, that is really how long these franchises go 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.760 on for. So I'm intrigueded to see which way. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:47.600 I kind of also think that my senses that you know, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.400 if we see some version of a Fantastic Four origin story, 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.560 we might not see Doom until like the second Fantastic 0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:00.560 Four movie, or it might be some version ofcientists make 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.440 an amazing discovery a dimension that scientists are calling the 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:05.440 negative zone has. 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.000 Been exactly. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.440 And then they open it up, right then they open 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.200 it up, and who comes out but Doom and and 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.200 it's the Fantastic Four's job is to be, like, is 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:20.800 to try and stop people from from accessing the negative zone. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:21.760 But but it's too late. 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.360 I mean, I I just quickly say, I do think 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.720 that's one of the most interesting things about Quantumania. I 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.800 feel like within a month, when we've seen it and 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.400 we're talking about it, we're going to know a lot 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.040 more because the what we've seen in the trailer is 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:38.000 Cassie essentially creates a portal that opens up the quantum realm, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.240 and then that is a problem, which is a very 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.880 negative zone storyline. So I think we'll really see how 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:50.840 much of those analogies are purposeful, homages, coincidental, useful, or 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.400 actually concrete kind of you know. The tagline for the 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.840 new post do they released for the quantumanea post do 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.680 they released today said, uh, I think it's like welcome 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.040 to a dynasty. Obviously that makes us think of the 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.359 Kang dynasty, but it could also be talking about the Richards. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.600 It could be many things, so it's very exciting times. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.120 Well, let's get to Kang. Jasmine asks do you think 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.080 we'll see a version of Kang and Loki season two 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.760 or will we just be teased with the whole season? 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.400 I want more Jonathan Majors. She also asks secret invasion question, 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.440 what's your bets on? The undercover scroll reveals over under 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:29.120 two good questions. Okay, first, Kang, I think we you 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.000 know it's a good question. Is is Jonathan Major is 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:36.080 gonna be too busy? It certainly makes sense that I 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:37.680 think that there's a way to do it, and I 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:41.200 think they gestured at it with you know, when Loki, uh, 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.560 you know, steps out into whatever reality he's currently in, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.360 he sees this huge statue of Kang. I think there's 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.520 a way to do it in which Kang is this 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.400 shadow that is like falling over the entire season without 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:57.240 actually seeing him. And I kind of think that that's 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.880 what they're gonna do, and they will save Jonathan Majors 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.760 for the movie What are your. 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.720 I think basically almost exactly the same as you. I 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.359 think you really hit the nail on the head. The 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.159 only thing I will say, I think is the wild 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.080 card and the kind of hopeful bright light for us 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:18.159 is who loved Jonathan Majors is that the first season 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.120 of Loki had that standout Bottle episode that was really 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.800 focused on Kang and that really worked. It went down 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.720 really well, people loved it. So maybe there's a potential 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.040 that we get this kind of reflection of that where 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.720 we get the shadow of Kang the whole time and 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.679 then the one episode. And it might be in the 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.399 middle because you're learning about this universe's version of Kang 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.159 where he is Kang the Conqueror, or it might be 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.440 at the end again. But I think there's there's potential 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.879 for maybe an episode, but I don't think he's going 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.280 to be our villain of the week, sadly because I 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:47.119 would love to see it. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.120 What do you think about Jasmine's second question question? 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:56.920 So many people asked us about scrolls, so I still 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:02.560 think you're one hundred percent right, Maria Hill, he is 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:07.359 a scroll. Jesus, We're just saying it. If they don't 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.359 do it, that's gonna be like the best fake out ever. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:16.320 Are the scrolls? Are the scrolls? I think that is 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:21.879 quite likely that the Contessa Valentina di Allegra Fontaine is. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:22.359 I like her. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.399 I also like her for a scroll. I worry that 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.719 it would be a little a little bit of the 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.800 same kind of beat if Maria Hill is also a scroll, 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:35.520 but I like her for that. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.800 Maybe it's like you have if you if they get 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.880 into they're getting into every high part of the government 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.439 and society. You have val who's now like the leading 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.920 the CIA or something, and then you have Maria, who's 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:52.240 trusted within sword, you know. So they're kind of hitting 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:57.600 both both segments. Who is who's our big hero gonna be? 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.679 I've always been the Jeremy Renner is a scroll, but Eva, 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:01.760 I think they could use. 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.200 It to out some soon Jeremy. 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:08.200 Oh yeah, get well soon, Get well soon. But I yeah, 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.480 who is if you were gonna pick one big hero 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.280 that they wanted to say, Oh, this person's been a 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.880 scroll for five years, who would it be? 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:17.159 Hank Pim. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.600 Oh that's a good one, and that could have big 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:25.520 ramifications if they have easy access to the quantum realm. Yeah, 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:26.760 it's such a hard question. 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:31.359 I mean, I feel like there's gonna be one, maybe 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.800 not one, but like a point seventy five average of 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:40.720 characters from each kind of group, like from Cosmic, from 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.359 Spy Marvel, from exactly Wakanda Marvel. So I think there'll 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:48.400 be one in each, Like I think Long Wo would 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:52.320 be shocking, Like it's not out of the question to me. 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:56.719 If Wong so Bucky Bonds, I think is like a 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.640 solid choice. What I will say is I will say 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:04.520 that the thing that's hard to comprehend, and I think this, 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.800 once the scrolls are in the MCU, people will understand it. 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.280 It's hard to comprehend how much of a big deal 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.080 it was when they were like peace, they're all scrolls. 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:13.960 Like it was huge. 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:15.920 It was huge. It was The reason it was huge 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.520 is because their behavior they had been there for so 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.560 long that you never knew. And that's actually because editorial 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.600 decided to do it. There was no seven years of 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.520 seeding thinking that, oh these people were scrolls. But in 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.679 the MCU. That's why I think it's so hard, because 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.440 we have yet to really comprehend the fact that if 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.399 a scroll has been there, they will have learned all 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.240 the patterns, they will have behaved they that's why you 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.399 would believe. So it could be wrong, it could be bucky. 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.879 I'm gonna go with I'm going to say that no 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.639 scrolls ever got into Wakanda. That was the rule in 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.639 the comics, which was like you know, see Wakanda and 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.600 die that like great three three issue run by Jason Aarron. Like, 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.760 so I'm going to say scrolls never made it to Wakanda. 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.440 But that doesn't mean they couldn't have taken someone over 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.640 outside of Wakanda and had them be a on out 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:03.160 in the world, you know. So yeah, I think who 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.360 is a scroll was a big question that we got, 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.000 and I think that's gonna be very interesting to see 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.840 how much we find out in secret Invasion because honestly, 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.320 that's a TV show, but Marvel has not been afraid 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.880 to draw big, shocking things within the world of TV. 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:22.480 This one is kind of cheating because it's plucked from 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:26.160 the comics. But as we saw at the end of Hawkeye, 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:30.880 Linda Cardellini aka Laura Barton is Mockingbird. Is the NCU 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:39.679 non ABC Shield version of Mockingbird, right, and Mockingbird's returned 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.760 to the comics after many many years being dead. Was 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.480 in Secret Invasion when we realized that they had kidnapped 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.639 Bobby and taken her to fucking scroll space wherever to 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:57.679 hold her prisoner. And it works, it goes, it translates 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:02.600 directly to TV. You know she's already worked. I would shot. 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:09.239 Is a legit great call. Yeah, because one we all 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.359 know that Linda Cardellini was gonna be made for bigger 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.600 things than being Hawkeye's wife. You don't cast her as 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.119 Hawkeye's wife. And then we found out she's Mockingbird. I 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:22.680 think her being a scroll and then seeing the fallout 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:23.800 of Hawkeye having to. 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:31.240 Realize he's been sleeping next a scroll but doing crazy 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.800