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Speaker 1: Warning. This podcast contains spoilers for House of the Dragon,

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Speaker 1: My name is Jason gets Epsion and I'm Rosy Night

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Speaker 1: and welcome next to Revision, the Crooked Media podcast where

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Speaker 1: we dive deep been to your favorite shows, movies, comics

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Speaker 1: and pop culture. In this episode, it's a mailbag, folks.

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Speaker 1: Of course. And the first thing we're gonna do is

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Speaker 1: open up the airlock and get into your mailbag. Here

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Speaker 1: we go. We are stepping out of the airlock, and

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Speaker 1: we are opening up the flap on the beautiful bag

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Speaker 1: of wonderful missives that we have received from you as

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Speaker 1: we step into the blessed year of our Lord twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three. So let's just start. Let's start with John

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Speaker 1: and Brett. John and Brett ask, do we get doomed

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Speaker 1: before Fantastic four? Like a post credit in Quantumnia or

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Speaker 1: something else? Who should they cast? Please you and Rosie

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Speaker 1: vamp on the Good Doctor Rosie. This is an interesting question.

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Speaker 2: I have thoughts, yes, so many thoughts. I truly do

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Speaker 2: believe that there was a version of Wakanda Forever that

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Speaker 2: would have ended with a Doctor Doom post credit scene.

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Speaker 2: I believe that would have fit. I believe it makes

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Speaker 2: sense with the more with the connections to Wakanda and

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Speaker 2: you know, the now known as Talakhan. But so I

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Speaker 2: do believe that we will see Doctor Doom before we

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Speaker 2: meet the Fantastic Four. He's one of Marvel's most incredible villains,

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Speaker 2: and Marvel Studios has never been able to make a

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Speaker 2: movie with him in because of the licensing to Fox.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a character they can't get wrong

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Speaker 2: and that they know could be their kind of next

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Speaker 2: level fanos, this kind of overarching god Emperor Doom. He

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Speaker 2: can be the ally who turns into a villain. He

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Speaker 2: can be your average kind of sort of small level

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Speaker 2: villain that you don't see coming that becomes this huge,

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Speaker 2: omnipotent kind of foe. So I think I think we're

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Speaker 2: going to see him. I would love to see him

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Speaker 2: in Quantumania. Do I think he's going to be that soon?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we see him proper in Quantumania, But

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Speaker 1: I do think that the way they could introduce Doom,

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Speaker 1: if they were going to do it, is like as

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Speaker 1: an image in the background. We know that the version

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Speaker 1: of Kang that we met and Loki was, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to keep the different malevolent versions himself from coming

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Speaker 1: may be more aggressive. Kang is also trying to keep

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Speaker 1: different multiversal threats from threatening his power. And I would

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Speaker 1: imagine that, like if he was telling Scott the story

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Speaker 1: of these threats and we could see like an image

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Speaker 1: of doctor Doom's mask, like in a computer screen somewhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I would be I would not I would

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Speaker 1: not be totally shocked if that happened. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's the way they do it. I think it's kind

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Speaker 1: They're so good at keeping this shit quiet. But I

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Speaker 1: also feel like if they had cast Doom by now,

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Speaker 1: there would be something more than the kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: these other versions of Kang that that have existed throughout

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Speaker 1: the multiverse and throughout time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense, especially

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Speaker 2: if you think about how they introduced you know, Fanos

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Speaker 2: had cost. Right. This leads to one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: Tell me, so, William.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Harper from the Good Place and Midsomer he got cast.

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Speaker 2: He got cast in Quantamania. Now a lot of people

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Speaker 2: love that casting. It's delightful, But I actually think I

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Speaker 2: who obviously then you've got Kang being the descendant, and

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Speaker 2: I think that could be so cool because then you

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Speaker 2: get to see these different generations of the Richards and.

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Speaker 1: Just to quick download for those not first in the

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Speaker 1: history of Kang and and Read and the fantasy for

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Speaker 1: a marvel years. Nathaniel Richards is a descendant of Read

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Speaker 1: Richards from the thirtieth century who board with the completely

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Speaker 1: He finds a time machine. He goes back to ancient

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Speaker 1: who then becomes Kang, starting the king journey basically, so

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Speaker 1: if that is correct, do they cheat kind of? And

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Speaker 2: Is that one of the most Christians?

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Speaker 1: I think that's on the tape.

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Speaker 2: I think it's on the table. I'm interested, So I

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Speaker 2: think one of my me and my my friend James,

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Speaker 2: we have a lot of fantastic four thoughts, my oneful

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Speaker 2: friend James, and we have some some fancst things that

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Speaker 2: we do for our own fun. But one of the

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Speaker 2: ones that really stuck with me for Doom that I

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Speaker 2: think about a lot that I think could work really

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Speaker 2: well with this is and it's unexpected because he's quite

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Speaker 2: he's not a looming tall figure, but he's very serious,

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Speaker 2: and I think you'd be very good. I think you

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Speaker 2: could do a great John David Washington Doom. And I

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Speaker 2: four and Kang kind of storyline become this unexpected space

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Speaker 2: for all these incredible black actors in the MCU, especially

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Speaker 2: because you know, Kang is not I love Kang, but

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Speaker 2: kind of follow on and do unexpected casting. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love I love thinking about who they're going to

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Speaker 2: cast as doctor Doo. My original fan cast that I

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Speaker 2: how great he was as Kylo Wren. He bought so

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Speaker 2: much weird, strange emotion to that that I think Doom

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Speaker 2: has obviously Mage Michelson. That's like the iconic Doom casting

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Speaker 1: I like all of those. I like the g and

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Speaker 1: Carlo Esposito kind of like rumor that is out there.

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Speaker 1: I do. Let me ask you this because this is

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Speaker 1: something I've been thinking about, what Kang's coming first, right

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Speaker 1: What I've been wondering about the relationship between Kang and Doom, like,

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Speaker 1: Doom as well, like he's trying, like, yeah, I not

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really interesting take, and I wish

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Speaker 2: I could remember. For the life of me, I do

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Speaker 2: wild theory that leans into that, which is like the

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Speaker 1: He is a controlling and then the mindful.

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Speaker 2: It would be so crazy, right, And then you have

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Speaker 2: the idea of Kang basically trying to undo the MCU

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Speaker 2: I think that's so wild, but absolutely love it. And

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Speaker 2: think I think that the nature of Kang being someone

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Speaker 2: quantum realm in the MCU is very similar. We've talked

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Speaker 2: I think that there's a big chance that there's already

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Speaker 2: been some kind of If Kang has lived every life

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Speaker 2: and every multiverse possible, he's probably already met doom.

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Speaker 1: Oh for sure. I mean the thing that so when

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Speaker 1: this is, uh, this is the doom that after the

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Speaker 1: in the crossover event, the Secret warst crossover event, the

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Speaker 1: I think it would be I think it's too much

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Speaker 1: But it's also like it's also really man, that would

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Speaker 1: see like galaxies, this image of galaxy and these incursions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the actual usage of the term incursions, which sets up

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Speaker 2: I've always been the Jeremy Renner is a scroll, but Eva,

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Speaker 2: The Mockingbird. That's my new favorite, even above Maria Hale.

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00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: I think I think that's a great one.

432
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: You mentioned Bucky Barnes. We talk about Hank Pim, who's

433
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: not certainly not necessarily like a top line Avengers leg.

434
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: He does have powers.

435
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: He does have powers, and he's been very important to

436
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 1: the to the evolution of the MCU and has been

437
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: running secret missions, you know, since the sixties. But like,

438
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 1: if there was one non Bucky Barnes top level current

439
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: living or dead, which would open the door to like

440
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: them coming back living or dead, like MCU character who

441
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: is a scroll, who do you think it could be?

442
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're saying Bucky Barnes.

443
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: Is a good guess, Bucky Barnes is a good guest.

444
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: I like Bucky Barnes, living or dead. I think, yeah,

445
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: the cruelest and most likely because the who loves him.

446
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: I would say in my head, my choice would be

447
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: like Captain America's scroll. I think that's so interesting, But

448
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: the reality I think is like Tony Stark, the Miraculous

449
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: News of Oh my god, Tony Stark wasn't actually dead,

450
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: Like he's actually been in cryostasis this whole time, and

451
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: he comes back and he becomes this huge figure in

452
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: this icon once again. But he's actually a scroll that's

453
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: incredibly bleak and amazing and would be very interesting because

454
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: you could have some great storylines with the characters within

455
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: the MCU, like Peter, who would just know for some

456
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: reason he just knows, or Pepper just knows, and you

457
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: kind of have this war between wanting to imagine that

458
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: he's back and not, and I'm sure that Robert is

459
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: dreaming of a way to find his self back in that.

460
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it would like just in terms of what

461
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: we know about the scroll's powers, like the suits would work,

462
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: like it would read his DNA as Tony Stark, he

463
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: would read his brain waves as Tony Stark. You could

464
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: do a thing where it's like they took Tony to

465
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: space and then whatever scroll took over Tony with the

466
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: idea that oh, I'm gonna, you know, uh uh bring

467
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 1: down humanity from the inside study. But then he falls

468
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: in love with being a hero and he does all

469
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: the right things.

470
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: A scroll was at Tony Stark's funeral. You know, okay,

471
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: well this one, this one's really out there. So one

472
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: of my all time favorite theories that I first remember,

473
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: the brilliant Joshua yelle ign we were talking on like

474
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: the Captain Marvel set visit. This is so long ago

475
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: about what became one of my ultimate favorite theories, which

476
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: is the kid from Iron Man three who got to

477
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: keep one of the suits becomes Iron Lad, Right, that's

478
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: like the dream. So they're saying at the moment I

479
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: spoke to that kid, I interviewed him once five GN

480
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: and he was just that was his dream, was that

481
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: he could get to play Iron Lad and kind of

482
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 2: go through that role. That seems unlikely now because you know,

483
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: Kang is iron Lad is Kang. So it's like, would

484
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 2: they cast a white person would hardly be the right choice.

485
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: But what if that kid is the scroll and the scroll,

486
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: who was at the funeral? Who gets the suit? Now

487
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking about. Bring that kid back. Fake

488
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: us out. People thought that iron the whole point of

489
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 2: that original Young Avengers brilliant, you know, Jim Chung stuff is.

490
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: You thought that they were all analogues for established characters,

491
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: but they were actually secretly kind of nothing to do

492
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: with them. And Iron Lad was was, you know, revealed

493
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: to be Kang. But I love this idea that they

494
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: could fake us out by being like, oh, he's gonna

495
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: be Iron Lad, He's going to be this young new

496
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 2: hero with this suit on. But really he's a scroll.

497
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: So I'm like, that's my one. Bring bring back the

498
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: kids from Iron Man three, and he can be a scroll.

499
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: He was at Tony's funeral? Why was he there? Nobody's

500
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 2: seen him for a long time.

501
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: I have one more and then we'll move on. This

502
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: is this is a this is a this is Timfoil.

503
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: Were doing it with Tim Foylan, Yeah, we're doing it.

504
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: Fuck it, but uh, Matt Murer love it, Daredevil. Here's

505
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: the reason being this first of all new to the MCU, right,

506
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: so kind of a good inflection point to try something

507
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: like that. Two he as we saw in Shee Hulk

508
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: because of who he is, the skill set he has,

509
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 1: the fact that he's a lawyer plugged into all these

510
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: kind of like different superhero concerns. He can go take

511
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: a meeting with the Avengers, he can go take a

512
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: meeting with Doctor Strange, he can go take a meeting

513
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: with with whatever, you know, with a government, and he

514
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: would be in it, would have access to a lot

515
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 1: of information. If the idea is like, you know, I

516
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: can and also have idea with the Marvel Underworld. Yeah,

517
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 1: so like there'd be that opportunity to kind of like

518
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: he'd be perfectly positioned in a kind of spy role

519
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: if he indeed was a s girl. I don't think

520
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: that's the good.

521
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: Being, but I love that idea. And I will say

522
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: that that does link to one of your best predictions,

523
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: which was that Kingpin is a scroll, hence why he

524
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: now has these six superpowers.

525
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: I love that one.

526
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: So I'm like everyone in Dead was a scroll. Everybody's

527
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: a scroll. Baby. When Secret Invasion comes out, you guys

528
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: are gonna be sick of us saying the word scroll

529
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: because we're all scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrawling'.

530
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest with you, the only one

531
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: that I am like one hundred percent sure of is

532
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: Mura Hill. Yeah, and kind of honestly like, I feel

533
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: like Laura bart is a scroll.

534
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: I feel like Laura Barton Now I'm the Laura Barton

535
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: believed just.

536
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: Because of it, just because like in the comics, that's legitimately.

537
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: How they reintroduced Bobby Morrison to continunity was like, oh

538
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: she did. She actually didn't die. She was just in

539
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: space with the scrolls.

540
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: So we're gonna move it on to the X Men.

541
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: It's time one of our all time favorite topics.

542
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: You know, we rarely talk about it. Wait, we never

543
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: get to talk about that.

544
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 2: Why do Yeah, this is a really great question. Ryan asks,

545
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: do you think Marvel would be best at introducing the

546
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: X Men slowly? One character at time light? They introduced

547
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: the Avengers star with a standlo beast movie that introduced

548
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: Gene Gray, slow play Wolverine, et cetera. I feel like

549
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: everyone is always speculating how they'll introduce the X Men

550
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: instead of a slow, methodical universe building, maybe after a

551
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: Secret Wars reset question Mark, Well, guess what, Ryan, this

552
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: is our number one favorite topic.

553
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: How well they introduced.

554
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: Jason, how do you think they'll introduce the X Men

555
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: to the MCU, Well.

556
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: I think that they will do it. I think the

557
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: slow play is happening now. I do too. I agree

558
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: the slow pl Like we're seeing the slow play both

559
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: with you know, the reveals that happened in Wana Vision,

560
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: with the you know various characters Miss Marvel who have

561
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: been referred to actively as like having mutations or being mutants.

562
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: We saw again in Doctor Strange Multiverse amnnas. And so

563
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: I think that slow play is happening. We're already getting

564
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: familiar with the idea that people are just born with

565
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: power for whatever reason, and it's a mute and it's

566
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: due to mutation. And I think when we when it

567
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: does come time for the X Men, I think it'll

568
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: happen all at once. I think we'll get him all

569
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: at once. I do think the one outlier, and we've

570
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: said this, we both talked about this a million times,

571
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: the one possible outlier being Wolverine, who you can see

572
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: existing in MCU continuity right now. And since like the

573
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: nineteen twenties or whatever, you know, like they it's the

574
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: original Super Soldier program was involved. This guy named Logan,

575
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: who is like a Canadian mutant who they experimented on.

576
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: This became Weapon X and it was like an offshoot

577
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: of Super Soldier. And he's been like in either in

578
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: cryostasis or they wiped his mind, and he's been running

579
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: all kinds of secret missions. And I think when they

580
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: do introduce the X Men in a non interdimensional way,

581
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: much like the Eternals, it's going to be and Wakan

582
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: and nay more and talkon, it's gonna be all at once.

583
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: They've been hiding in plain sight. There's a school upstate.

584
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: It's a school for gifted youngsters, but actually it's a

585
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: school for superhero superpowered beings. They haven't gotten involved in

586
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: the various fights going on because they don't trust humanity.

587
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: They can kind of see where this is going. They

588
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: might have any number of characters who can actually see

589
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: the future and are saying, listen, we're going towards a

590
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: bad place. If you reveal yourself, We're already going towards

591
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: a bad place. But if you actually reveal yourself during

592
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be so much false fantus. But yeah,

593
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: between when the Thanos stuff is happening, when whenever fight

594
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: is happen when the battle in New York has happening.

595
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: If you reveal yourself, then we're going to get to

596
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: that post apocalyptic, you know of genocidal time for the

597
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 1: mutants a lot quicker. So don't reveal yourself. And I

598
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: think I think they basically are around right now and

599
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: they're just hiding your thoughts.

600
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: I think so too. I also think something that I've

601
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: been thinking about a lot. I think I think you're

602
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: one hundred percent right. I think we've seen it with

603
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: the kind of reversion of Kamala back to her original origin,

604
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: which was that she was going to be a mutant,

605
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: and this kind of hint. I mean, she lives in

606
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: New Jersey. It would be so easy for her to

607
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: go to a school that was kind of upstate to

608
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: see the way things go down. I think you're one

609
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent right. They're seeding it now. What I think

610
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: is very interesting is the timing of and look, these

611
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: schedules shift, right, But what we know right now is

612
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: that Phase five kind of Secret Wars phase this kind

613
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: of you know, twenty twenty four onward situation. And they

614
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: did it. They did they did a very interesting ad

615
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: in you know, India, that was like Cassie saying, where

616
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: are we in Quantumania? And it was like phase five there, right.

617
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: But I think it's very interesting that Deadpool three, which

618
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: we know is going to include Logan, is coming out

619
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, which is going to be within

620
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: this kind of Secret Wars phase, and I think that

621
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: is very telling. We don't know what it means for

622
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: Deadpool and Logan to be in the MCU. I've already

623
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: positioned my theory that Deadpool's there to kill all the

624
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: Fox characters and Logan's potentially helping out.

625
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: I fucking love it what it is, I will write it.

626
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: I absolutely love.

627
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Like you know, phase five from now to kind of

628
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. I think that is very interesting. And

629
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: I think that we could see Deadpool and Wolverine as mutants,

630
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: as potential members of a multiversal X Men team, so

631
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: they understand that the X Men already exist, even if

632
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: it isn't public here. I think we could see be

633
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 2: a way that they start to really see those words

634
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: and characters and phrases, even if it's just a touch

635
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: of it. And then I do believe that we would

636
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: probably with that movie coming out when it is supposed

637
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: to come out. I believe we will probably see that

638
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: version of Logan and Depool whenever the big Secret Wars

639
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: kind of battle, at least in a cameo phase. Who

640
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: will the other mutants be when when we start to

641
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: see you know, Storm, who I believe is kind of

642
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: your nowadays, that's your primary X men that you want

643
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: to introduce first. I don't know. That's the thing that

644
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: I find most interesting. My one big prediction that we've

645
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: talked about before that I think is true, is I

646
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Speaker 2: think that post you know, this kind of multiverse phase,

647
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Speaker 2: the multiverse saga, I think it's going to be the

648
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Speaker 2: mutant saga, if any saga multiverse saga, mutant saga. I

649
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: think that is. It makes sense.

650
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: It kind of makes the most sense in that the

651
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: mutants in the MCU gives you access to like an

652
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: untapped mine of stories. Obviously it's a whole round in

653
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: the Fox in the Fox Verse, but you could do

654
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: them again in a better, more streamline.

655
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: So we never got more lots. You know, there's so

656
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: many different kind of We've seen so many characters, but

657
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: you know, we've never had a definitive Bishop storyline. You know,

658
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: one of the best mutants in the world.

659
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: Of course people have been, which people have been? People

660
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: can't wait for Bishop?

661
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the I want bishops so badly, you know

662
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: he I loved.

663
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: What a scum. I need that scumbag in my life.

664
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Speaker 2: Right, we need. I loved the glimpse that we got

665
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: in Days of Future Past, and I felt like there

666
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: were things that were done there that were very interesting,

667
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: but we didn't get to expand on them. So I mean,

668
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: I just I think about all the different teams that

669
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: we could see, all the different teams that we love

670
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: that are now being brought back to life, Excalibur, new Mutants,

671
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: like these teams that meant so much to us when

672
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: we were kids, X Factor, you know, X Force. There's

673
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: so it's a whole. It's almost I feel like the

674
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: stage where these movies could step out of the MCU

675
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: and it becomes an entirely different I guess.

676
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: Now that puts us several years off, and I think

677
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: that that's probably what it's going to be. I will

678
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: also say that I think that in addition to all

679
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: the kind of seedings that we've seen, you know, Nay More,

680
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: et cetera, like all the things that we just mentioned.

681
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: I do think that, and we talked about this some

682
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: weeks ago when we discuss AXC, the Judgment Day crossover

683
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: event that just finished up in Marvel Comics, written by

684
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: Kieran Galen with art by a number of artists including

685
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: Valerio Shitty, that the Eternals your internal favorites, Do you

686
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: kind of give us the most currently existing straight lined

687
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: shot towards the X Men, because you could just say,

688
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: because you know, in that crossover event, the Eternals or

689
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: a faction of the Eternals are pitted against the Mutants

690
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: because it turns out that the mutation is actually a

691
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: form of a deviation. They're actually deviants by another name.

692
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: In fact, deviants can take the Cocohen Gates telling you

693
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: that genetically they're extremely similar. So I think that there's

694
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Speaker 1: a world in which the Eternals, the mission of the Eternals,

695
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: brings them into direct conflict with this thus far hidden

696
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: sect of deviants that we can then can be then

697
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: revealed to be mutants. I think that that is kind

698
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: of our most direct straight line shot towards mutants in

699
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: an earlier timeframe than kind of I think so too,

700
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Speaker 1: especially that's happening now.

701
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: The Krakoa stuff has been so popular and has really

702
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: reignited the X Office in a way we haven't seen

703
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: for a long time. So I wouldn't be.

704
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Speaker 1: Surprised a long time if.

705
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Speaker 2: As an old school lifelong like middle aged almost at

706
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: this point, like X Memban, it blows my mind to

707
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: imagine that Krakoa wouldn't be too weird for them to

708
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: put on screen. But I feel the easiest, simplest direct

709
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: line to what we already have, So I wouldn't be

710
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: surprised if if we saw them start taking from that era.

711
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: Well, it's the problem that we talked about that we've

712
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: talked about so many times before, which is that you

713
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: can introduce them a million different ways. But the issue

714
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: is the crux of the mutant drama is that the

715
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: world does not accept them. Maybe they're hated and feared,

716
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: and there's been multiple very successful attempts at wiping them

717
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: out as a race that have happened in Marvel comics.

718
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: And without that kind of drama and tragedy, you kind

719
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: of don't have the mutants. You need to hate it

720
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: and feared. Now again, I think they're seeding it again,

721
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: as we saw with Damage control and the UH and

722
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: the prison that that we visited during Miss Marvel. I

723
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: think that that's there, you know, with Sword and the

724
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Speaker 1: kind of the way they're kind of pivoting Sword to

725
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: kind of study sentient computers, potentially giving us an entrede

726
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: to sentinels of the sentinel programs. I think they're seating

727
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: all that stuff, But we need to hated and feared

728
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: before the mutants. Like I'm with you, it'd be they

729
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: could certainly say, oh, here's Crocoa and here's all the

730
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: mutants and they've been hiding here, and it's but I

731
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Speaker 1: think that it wouldn't have the same impact unless you

732
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Speaker 1: get the MCU writ large to a place where people

733
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Speaker 1: with powers are feared and mutants in particular are hated, feared,

734
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Speaker 1: despised to the point where people would be just kind

735
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: of okay with somebody going to try and wipe them out.

736
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right on that front, and

737
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: that's like the biggest conflict. Also, again, I know it

738
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: gets like this every time one of the MCU movies come,

739
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: because we're like so excited about what the implications could be.

740
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: But again, I think Quantumania could set us even closer

741
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: to that path where if Kang or whoever gets out

742
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: of Cassie's you know, quantum kind of teleportation conversation device

743
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: that she created, which, by the way, somebody should have

744
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: stopped her because that was a really stupid idea. Ah,

745
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 2: But like that, opening that space to the quantum realm,

746
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: introducing different kinds of powered characters who did not get

747
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: their powers from military suits or military experiments or the

748
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: accepted ways in the MCU, are more cosmic empower who

749
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: are more reminiscent of, say a Thanos. I could definitely

750
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: see a route where Kang comes to our universe in

751
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: the role of a benefactor who wants to help but

752
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: is treated as if he is a villain like Thanos,

753
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: and that can stoke that fear and also create a

754
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: conflict between Kang and his hopeful ally Paul Rod, who,

755
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: by the way, I saw walking down the street in

756
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: Sampedo this week filmingo reshoots, happy cheeky additional photography in

757
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: that same comic shop.

758
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Speaker 1: What do you think that means?

759
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: Honestly, this is very interested.

760
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, this is not uncommon, right reshoots. Reshoots

761
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: are very very common, particularly in these kind of franchise movies,

762
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: both on the DC side and the Marvel side. But

763
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: it is quite late in the game, and I don't

764
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: know for a fact that this is the latest reshoots

765
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Speaker 1: that we've seen. I guess it does come out in

766
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: so it's I guess asual, right. I guess like Avengers,

767
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: the Schwarma scene was kind of like quick and dirty

768
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: and very close to release. But what do you think

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Speaker 1: it means?

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Speaker 2: So so the scene that I saw them shooting, because

771
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: it was just in my neighborhood. I was just wandering

772
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: around and they were they were doing a shot of

773
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: him going going into the coffee shop, and we saw

774
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: the same character actor he was outside who was in

775
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: the coffee shop. So maybe expanding on that scene, because

776
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: I think people really liked it with the Spider Man joke,

777
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: Maybe it's an end sequence where he goes back and

778
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: they thank him and they get his name right. That

779
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: seemed like something that would make.

780
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: Sense to me.

781
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: Also, I did think the trailers, which looked amazing and

782
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: completely wild and very spy kids, which is always a

783
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: compliment in my opinion, I did think they were lacking

784
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: on the traditional ant Man jokes. Ant Man is very

785
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: much the comedic kind of going back to Phase one

786
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: type movie, So I'll be very interested to see if

787
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: maybe it was punch ups. It was additional photography. They

788
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: also were shooting in this very outrageous like classical restaurant

789
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: that's kind of it, called the Jay Tranny's. I saw

790
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: them shooting outside, so I'm very interested to see what

791
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: that would be because I don't believe we've seen anything

792
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: in or around there. So yeah, and it was again

793
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: they were shooting. They were shooting San Francis. I'm pro

794
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,279
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795
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,239
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796
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: going back to SF. But yeah, additional photography a month

797
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: before the movie.

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Speaker 1: I'm intrigued.

799
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Speaker 2: There's a new trailer coming out quite I.

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Speaker 1: Let's continue with with the fox verse conversation you mentioned Deadpool.

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Speaker 1: Edward asks a deleted stinger from Deadpool tool, Deadpool two,

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Speaker 1: Deadpool Travels, What did I say, dead Pool too? Dead

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Speaker 1: Pool Travels Deadpool two, which is the French version of

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Speaker 1: Deadpool two. Deadpool travels back in time with the attempt

916
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: to kill a baby Hitler at the end of Avengers endgame.

917
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: Cap is you know, famous for socking Hitler and the Jaw,

918
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: travels back in time to restore the Infinity Stones and

919
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: learn to dance. If Cap gets wind of Deadpool's plans,

920
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: does he jump back in time to help Deadpools or

921
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: does he stop him? Do the ensuing hijinks cause the

922
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: Fox Universe and the MCU to full inner on with

923
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: each other. A asks a similar question, just asking basically

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Speaker 1: how the Fox movie characters and the MCU characters and

925
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: the MCU in general could interrelate your thoughts.

926
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: So I will say I like this theory very much.

927
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: He's very smart. But I'll tell you one thing I

928
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: know about Captain America from the end of the Infinity Saga.

929
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: He didn't he wasn't gonna change shit.

930
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: He literally let everything.

931
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: Else happen so he could just dance with his little girlfriend.

932
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: He left behind his best friend, Inverted Commas, who he

933
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: had literally caused an in the International Incident for, and

934
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: then he was just like, peace out, Bucky, see you later.

935
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: And then I gotta get there. I gotta meet a

936
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: girl for a day.

937
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 2: He literally allowed every single terrible thing to happen from

938
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: the fifties to now and he didn't do any single thing.

939
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: He did not change anything. So I believe, you know what,

940
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 2: in that context, because he's not very good, he probably

941
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: would have stopped their because he would have been like, well,

942
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: this is the one thing I do have to change.

943
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: But I I do not believe that Cap going back

944
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 2: for that dance will be what causes the universes to fold,

945
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 2: though I do think there is a very very very

946
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: very very good argument that that is the easiest way

947
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: to explain it, because that whole thing is just the

948
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: timeline is so messy, and the idea that he could

949
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: go back and not change anything is it doesn't make

950
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: sense with the interior logic of the movies.

951
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, do we with a cap

952
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: of it all? To me, the biggest bump with Cap

953
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: going back and just like living in a in a

954
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: a life of you know, of romance with his beloved

955
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: is that he wouldn't tell anyone that shield is actually Nazis.

956
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that shield like that. Do we one

957
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: day find out that he tried that cated some kind

958
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: of fucking splinter universe somewhere else?

959
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: Did he kiss his own blood relation niece? Is that

960
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: who Sharon Carr is because I don't understand. Also, like,

961
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: how did he go back in time and live a

962
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: peaceful life? So was does that mean that the other

963
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: version of Captain America was the entire time going through

964
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: time and being Captain America, because then he must have

965
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: just stayed in the house whole time. It's very confusing.

966
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: I hope he did try to tell someone about Shield,

967
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: because that's really messed up. I will also ask you.

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00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: One of my asked a really fun thing, which was like,

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00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: how do what's your dream team up of a Fox

970
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: character and an MCU character. What's yours?

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00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, wow, you know I would this is kind

972
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 4: of recency bias.

973
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: But Logan and cap finding Yeah, classics, this is this

974
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: is agel, this age old pairing in the comics. But

975
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: finding out that they have a history somehow in World

976
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: War Two, you know, and some of the stuff that

977
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: we didn't see in Captain America First Avenger, their past crossed.

978
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: Maybe he was part of the Howling Commandos. Everybody thought

979
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: he died. Maybe they ran some maybe they were you know,

980
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: when when the US Military Command realized the kind of

981
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: impact that Captain America had, maybe they pull him out

982
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: for a weekend and pair him with this shadowy agent

983
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: named Logan who's maybe from Canada, maybe from somewhere else.

984
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: They send them, they send them on some secret mission

985
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: love doy whatever. But I think those two together, there's

986
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: just there's just a lot of there's a lot of

987
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: possibilities there along those similar veins. You know, at this point,

988
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: nay War is the oldest, you know, the oldest character

989
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: in the MCU and ends. We know that Logan is

990
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: like one hundred Oh gosh, he would be like what

991
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: one forty Yeah, at least hundred and forty five years

992
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: old something like that, right. I think there's a world

993
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: in which those two could have could have crossed paths.

994
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: What about you?

995
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: Oh, I think this is such a fun question. So

996
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: my I have some like immediate, like funny ones that

997
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: I would love to see for gag answers, which is like,

998
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: I'd love to see our you know, our amazing Kamala

999
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: Kahan meet Wolverine that's like her favorite in the comics.

1000
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: I'd love to see a Logan, a cranky Logan Wolverine

1001
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: and a Kamala who knows him somehow. That would be fun. Also,

1002
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: I think now Tom Holland is more of age, and

1003
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: the character is of age. You know, I would like

1004
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 2: to see that Ryan Reynolds Tom Holland, Deadpool Spider Man.

1005
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 2: There's like such a fun and flirty, weird, cheeky dynamic.

1006
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 2: But on a if I was gonna pick one thing,

1007
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: just because this is kind of a cheat, because I

1008
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: really just want these characters to be in the MCU.

1009
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 2: I would want to se Kamala go to the school

1010
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: up state, and for all of Laura Kinney and the

1011
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: new Mutants that they basically established, like Richter and everyone

1012
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: from that brilliant kind of phase of Logan, I'd love

1013
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: to just see them there. I felt like that group

1014
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: of kids was one of the most exciting kind of

1015
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 2: possibilities that we never got to explore. So that would

1016
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 2: be my real one. But I think the other two

1017
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 2: are a little bit more likely.

1018
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: One possibility also, and we've talked about it before, and

1019
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: this might be too much hat on a hat with

1020
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: all the multiple stuff and erasing realities that have already happened.

1021
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: But I also think that there is there's a path

1022
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: where Charles Xavier made everybody forget oh, definitely Mutants. I

1023
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: think all the shit happened. You know, various sentinel pograms

1024
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: have happened. You know there have been you know, the

1025
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: the shit back in the sixties in X Men First

1026
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: Class actually happened. But then Charles Xavier was like, you

1027
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: know what, this is too much fucking trouble. I just

1028
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: want to raise my kids, my child soldiers in peace.

1029
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: I am gonna hook myself up to Threebro and just

1030
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: because I am so fucking powerful, I'm gonna make everybody

1031
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: for he's evil and he does.

1032
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: He's evil. Charles, as we know, he has that side,

1033
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: and he has gene hooked up to like a sabribro

1034
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: like in a coma. Just doing it constantly, that would

1035
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: be so bleak, But I do. I feel like Charles

1036
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: has it in him. I love that.

1037
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: I would love.

1038
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: If there's one character I'd love to see them bring

1039
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: back and do something really unexpected with it is James

1040
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: Marsden as Cyclops, because like I'm not a Psyclone didn't dirty,

1041
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: but they didn't. He didn't dirty. And imagine if he

1042
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: I always thought the coolest thing to do with Cable

1043
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: because that's Scott's Summer's son. Just in case you didn't know,

1044
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: that makes a lot of sense. I always thought it

1045
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: would have been really cool if they cast Marsden as

1046
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: Cable as well, but like grizzled him up. But seeing

1047
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: as we have you know, Josh Brolin Cable, I would

1048
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: love to see that version of Scott come back and

1049
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: they do something along the lines of that, like psychic

1050
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: Romance with Emma that they did in New X Men.

1051
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: You know, I would love to see a kind of

1052
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: aged up down a Scott, because I think that's the

1053
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: most interesting Scott. But you know how they will introduce

1054
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: the Fox characters or or get rid of them. We

1055
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: are probably the only people who are talking about it

1056
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 2: more than the Marvel studios, because they are talking about

1057
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: it every day. I swear to God that this must

1058
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: be the conversation.

1059
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: Okay, last one, uh magic Iliana Resputina and said, doctor Strange,

1060
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange, just wandering around the canyons of the magic.

1061
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is like a bad addece of casting. Bring

1062
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 2: her in.

1063
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: Y just happens upon the realm that is ruled by I.

1064
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: I love that or gets a gets a hint of

1065
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: this powerful magic figure with this gigantic sword out there,

1066
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: and maybe that gives us that would be a cool

1067
00:58:59,240 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: pairing as well.

1068
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, shall we do Uh, let's let's just Spidey. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Anthony asks, and Anthony uh submitted this question multiple times,

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00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: so thank you. We gotta do it. Yeah, how is

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00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: Spider Man going to be incorporated into the MCU going forward?

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00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: He's too big of a character in Marvel history, with

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: interactions with so many of the remaining heavy hitters in

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00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: today's MCU. They can't just have him be forgotten because

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00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: of a spell. We've got so much history with him

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00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: and Strange Dead Evil, the Fantastic Four, Fury Sam as

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00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: Cap Miles. You know, we hope he shows up soon,

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00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: which I think we can also addam. I was gonna say,

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00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: let's let's add that on to the end of this question,

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00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: because we've got a lot of people like Gloria asking

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00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: about Miles, and I will say, I think the most

1082
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: important thing to remember about the spell, which is easy

1083
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: to forget because there was a lot going on in

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00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: that movie. Yeah, people know who Spider Man is. They

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00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: know that Spider Man exists. They just do not know

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00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: that Peter Parker is Spider Man, and they basically essentially

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01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: wiped the memory of Peter Parker out kind of cosmically

1088
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: of everyone who is in that universe. They're will likely,

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01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: as we have talked about before, be an exception. There

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01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: will be someone who is off planet, there will be

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01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: someone who remembers him potentially, so Spider Man is going

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01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: to be there. The big question is how does Spider

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01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: Man have personal interactions with these characters when so many

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01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: of their relationships were based on the fact that he

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01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: was this young hero who wasn't afraid to show them

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01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: his face, who was sweet, who had this hot on

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01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: all these personal things. That was what made him beloved

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01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: in the Avengers. That was how he you know, with

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Speaker 2: his little pajama suit, like those were the memories people have.

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Speaker 2: So the question is, does Spider Man now become this

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01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: kind of almost like a lone wolf hero who people

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01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: are like, oh, he's so enigmatic, none of us know

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01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 2: who he is, and when does that get broken? And

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01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: I do think that I've spoken about this before, like

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01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: we've chatted about on the pod, but I do think

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01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: that his role right now actually helps us seed Miles

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: because it essentially makes him a figurehead instead of a person,

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01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: and it'll buy a miles.

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: Imagine what a huge emotional moment it's gonna be when,

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01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: potentially upon Peter's mortal wounding at the hands of one

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: of his great enemies, the spell is broken, and all

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01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden, people remember who Peter is as he's

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01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: like laying dying because he's gonna die. So I just

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01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: think that there's gonna I think there's gonna be a

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01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: massive emotional impact when they break that spell, and I

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01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: think it's probably gonna be as we say goodbye to

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01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: Tom Holland and the MCU. I think what they're gonna

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01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: do is go to the kind of in air quotes,

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01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: kind of classic mid eighties and nineties Spider Man's stories

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Speaker 1: working at the beauty, you know, the version of the Bugle.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna be get an adult job.

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01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: You can kind of in the most classic Spider Man setup.

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Speaker 2: He's in a shitty content. He needs to get a job.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have like Tony Stark paying for him. It's

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Speaker 2: almost the New Origin story, which I loved.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly where I'm going. He's gonna he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: a job working for j Jon and Jamison, who's gonna

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01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: be a fucking complete asshole right around and he's going

1130
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: to be scuttling around trying to get some money. Maybe

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01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna date, Maybe he's gonna run into a jewel

1132
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: thief lady who all of a sudden he has some

1133
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: like romantic sparks. There is many, but he's gonna.

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01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: Be poker is a ladies man.

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Speaker 1: Is the polite eighties and nineties Peter was a fucking

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01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: heart throb.

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Speaker 2: So I think that that's potential of interests, and I

1138
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 2: think those will kind of think.

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01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: I think that that's where we're going to go, is

1140
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: the kind of classic eighties and nineties Spider Man stories

1141
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: where he's, you know, a young adult guy with a job,

1142
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: just trying to balance paying the rent with doing Spider

1143
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: Man hijinks. Meanwhile, everybody's like, who the hell is Spider Man?

1144
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: We have no idea. I also will say that I

1145
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: think that I think when they reconfigure the Avengers, he's

1146
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: also he's going to be part of whatever the new

1147
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: Avengers team is when they finally put that team back together.

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01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's all. That's that's the way it's

1149
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: going to go down. Also, I'm very interested, what do

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01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: you think before we get to Miles, because I do

1151
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: think that's the biggest outstanding question in the MCU, pretty

1152
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: much above anything else. Do you think I think that

1153
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,959
Speaker 2: we will see them do a version of the Black

1154
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: Suit Spider Man stuff with Tom, with the little bit

1155
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: of the venom that has been left by Tom Hardy,

1156
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: Good old Tom Hardy.

1157
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: There, you know, he'sa he is served as Heggy sent

1158
01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: him back to his own.

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01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: You know, the Symbia test tube you see where he

1160
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: can jump around and eat some lobsters. What do you

1161
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: think do you think we'll see it with Tom? I

1162
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: think that could be very cool, but it has been

1163
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: done obviously so iconically in Spider Man three that it's

1164
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: now come back around to people loving it. I love

1165
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: that movie. But or do you think they'll do something

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01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 2: different where we would see Flash get it and you

1167
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: get that different version of venom, or you would see

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01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they go straight to a more planet,

1169
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: you know, planet Symbia, kind of like multiple different symbios

1170
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: existing in the MSU. Maybe they want to venomize everyone

1171
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: they love to do that in the comics. What do

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Speaker 2: you think because the Symbia being there and Peter not

1173
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: being Peter and kind of publicly known as Peter I

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01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: think is that's leading somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I think you give it. I think the Symbia can't

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01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: be in the MCU without being drawn to Peter. Considering

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Speaker 1: the origins of the Symbi it you know, in the

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01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: in the Sony version of the universe, right, it knew him,

1179
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: it knows him. It's gonna that's great to him. So

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01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: I kind of think logically, there's kind of it makes

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: I know they've done it before, but they've done it

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01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: before in an alternate universe, and I think that Symbia

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01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: is going to seek Peter out.

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01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be to see like a a more that

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01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: I love Spider Man three, but you know, someone who

1186
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: didn't love venom is is Sam Raimi's not a huge bang.

1187
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: I'd love to see a real spooky, cool, weird version

1188
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: and you have Peter having to go through that himself

1189
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: because he doesn't have that support base, and then you

1190
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 2: could establish your primary venoms. I mean, I'm very interested

1191
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: the implications of No Way Home. Who does and doesn't exist?

1192
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they kind of said you have

1193
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: Norman and he's like, wherever is my son? You know,

1194
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 2: and there's decided that Norman doesn't exist in that universe, Norman,

1195
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: but does he like? Those are the characters I think

1196
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: we could see and that kind of eighties and nineties

1197
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: more classical Spider Man as we imagine him from that era.

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01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 2: I think those are the big questions. Which villains are

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Speaker 2: now going to appear in the MCU, Who has suddenly

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01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 2: have been there the whole time? Or who he meets

1201
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: at college, you know, his little friends.

1202
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: I will say one more thing. Symbia may be the

1203
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: only person that remembers Peter Parker.

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01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 5: Oh, because it's technically like a human, not technically a

1205
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 5: human from a different universe, from a different universe remembers

1206
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 5: Peter Parker, but not this one.

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01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: And I think that there. I think there's a lot

1208
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: of ways around. I think there's a lot of ways

1209
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: around the spell through the Symbiate.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

1211
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: And it just makes so much sense that he's going

1212
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: to seek Peter out. It just makes too much sense

1213
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: to me that he would do it.

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01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: Okay, and you're you're like, one line pitch like, how

1215
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: Miles will make it into the MCU.

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01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: He did just what you said. He inspires Miles towards

1217
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: wanting to be this person who makes a difference in

1218
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: the way Spider Man makes a difference, and it's and

1219
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: it's the death of Peter Parker that that propels him

1220
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: on his journey. And like, that's one of the most

1221
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: impactful deaths in Marvel comics, in the Ultimate Universe. It

1222
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: is just it it's crushing, it's inspirational, it's amazing.

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01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 2: It's just so many great interactions for Miles too, and

1224
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: great relationships.

1225
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: And I think he gotta do it again. Snot Olstad asks,

1226
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: can Cody Zigler reveal whose idea it was to return

1227
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: Miles to his classic costume for his new run. I've

1228
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: got zig cemented on my pull list, but the streetwear

1229
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: suit was the best Miles suit of all time. Let's

1230
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: go to zig himself for the answer.

1231
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 6: You know what snot. This may shock you, and this

1232
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 6: may even surprise you, but your boy Cody Zigler had

1233
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 6: absolutely no say in selecting Miles's return to his classic costume.

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 6: I also, I was also a really big fan of

1235
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 6: the streetwear suit designed by Chase Conley, fantastic illustrator and

1236
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 6: and and comic comic artist and obviously designer in his

1237
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 6: own right. Funny enough, when that suit was first sort

1238
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 6: of being voted around. I mean, I got an email

1239
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 6: from Nicko Low, who's the head editor for the Spider Offices,

1240
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 6: just like sort of getting he wanted to get like

1241
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 6: my take on on the suit update, and it is

1242
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 6: I think, I wrote back, It's like, this is one

1243
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 6: of the coolest things I've ever seen. The version that

1244
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 6: eventually they they ended up landing almost a little bit

1245
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 6: more simplified than the one that I originally saw but

1246
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 6: and gave notes on. But if you go to Chase

1247
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 6: Conley's Twitter or Instagram, uh, they've had They've they've posted

1248
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 6: their original designs for it. You can see it's got

1249
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 6: these really cool like straps like techwar tech worl like

1250
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 6: straps and stuff on the suit. That didn't really make

1251
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 6: it to the wards, the final version, because I believe

1252
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 6: they were concerned that it'd be too complicated for artists

1253
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 6: to keep drawing that every time it's like a huge

1254
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 6: action scene, which I get. But also, you know, part

1255
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 6: of me, if you know anything about me, I'm a

1256
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 6: huge streetwear fan, So I was a bit bummed about that.

1257
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 6: But yeah, that was that's the that was like the

1258
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 6: practical reason. But I think from like a story standpoint

1259
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 6: or like a narrow standpoint. You know, a lot of

1260
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 6: this arc that I'm going to be writing is about

1261
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 6: sort of starting a new status quo and starting things

1262
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 6: over and Miles going back to his roots. So I

1263
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 6: think thematically it it, it makes sense. But you know,

1264
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 6: maybe there's a way I can weasel my way into

1265
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 6: getting have that's that his his his last suit pop

1266
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 6: up again and some future stories because I am a

1267
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 6: big fan of it and a big fan of Chase

1268
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 6: to begin with. So Stott, I hope that answers your question,

1269
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 6: and thanks for reading, and I hope you continue to enjoy,

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01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 6: enjoy the Miles story.

1271
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 2: We're going back back to wester Ross, one of Jason's

1272
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: favorite Let's goe.

1273
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: I love it there. I love it there. I don't

1274
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: know what to say. I love it there.

1275
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: It feels like you're going back on a nice vacation.

1276
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: Bailey asks, Oh, this one you're going to go deep on.

1277
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 2: This one is Adam of Hall and then an equals

1278
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: sign Lena possible question and if not, do you think

1279
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 2: House of the Dragon will revisit Lena at all?

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Speaker 1: I my initial reaction, and this is how I still

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Speaker 1: feel when I when this theory started popping up is

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Speaker 1: that it would be it would be maybe too confusing

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Speaker 1: to bring lane Or back as Adam fall. So, Adam

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Speaker 1: of Hull is a bastard of drift Mark, uh, one

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Speaker 1: of the so called dragon seeds. This is I should

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Speaker 1: add spoilers for House of the Dragon seasons two, three

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Speaker 1: and beyond, so as the need for dragon becomes more pressing.

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Speaker 1: Thus the search for people with Valerian lineage is launched,

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Speaker 1: and one of the people they find is Adam of Hull,

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Speaker 1: who is one of the so called dragon seeds, a

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Speaker 1: bastard fathered by some member of the Valerian lineage who

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Speaker 1: has just been running around Driftmark. You know how much

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Speaker 1: they love brothels and stuff. And then he becomes a

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Speaker 1: dragon writer, also writing c Smoke of course Lenor's former dragon.

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Speaker 1: He becomes a quite an important figure in the middle

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Speaker 1: of this world. I think it would be how would

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Speaker 1: you hide it from people? I think that lane Or

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01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: is too notable a person for it to work. But

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Speaker 1: I think that there, man, if you could really crack

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01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: the code on how it could work, it would be

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Speaker 1: pretty fucking amazing. But I don't. It just feels like

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Speaker 1: it's just the fact that there was never even a

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Speaker 1: whisper in the histories.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: The reason the Leynor reveal the fact that he was

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Speaker 1: not killed and he actually survived and escaped. The reason

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: it has such an impact is there's no hint of

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Speaker 1: that in the histories, in the various tellings of that history,

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Speaker 1: most notably Fire and Blood, which tells us that no

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Speaker 1: one even thought of it. There was never even a hint,

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Speaker 1: There was never even a rumor that. Hey, and there

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01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:33,879
Speaker 1: are lots of examples throughout Westrss's history of people pretending

1313
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: to be other people coming back as other people saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually this person, but they're not. You know, in

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Speaker 1: Dance of Dragons, there's currently a egon targarian running around

1316
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: who everybody is calling Fagon because pretty bunch people are

1317
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Speaker 1: pretty convinced that he's not actually a targarian. This happens

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Speaker 1: a lot in that world. And the fact that nobody

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01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: the facts not mentioned that text tells me that nobody,

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: even you know, had a hint of it, which kind

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Speaker 1: of suggests to me that Lenor is not Adam of

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01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: hult Adam Vlais.

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Speaker 2: It's like it would have to be the slickest, most

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01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: fool proof transformation. It has to be a.

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01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: Really great way of doing like he's all scarred up,

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01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: something happened to him over there in SLOs where he

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01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: looks like a different guy and nobody even has a

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: hint of it. And and even to the point, because

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Speaker 1: I think that obviously, I think, you know, I think

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01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: Corliss and Sray niece would act, would react very very

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01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: negatively to the realization that their son shirked all responsibilities

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01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: and fled. So if they did do it, he would

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Speaker 1: have to hide his identity from certainly his parents and

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01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: everyone but Nira, like he would just it would just

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01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: have to be and and damon, it would just have

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01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: to be the most tightly guarded secret. That's the only

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01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: way to do it.

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Speaker 2: And Bailey has a very import and follow up question,

1339
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: do you think you'll ever say kaiban in the style

1340
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: of Grandmaster Paisel on X ray Vision?

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01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 1: Do you?

1342
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: And have you ever said kaiba as in the Crystal

1343
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: from Star Wars in that way like I do it right.

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01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 1: Now, Kibra kaiba kila crystal crystal? Uh? Has I have

1345
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: said kaiburn in just a natural conversation ever since recording

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01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: those those sound bites, years ago, and I continue to

1347
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: enjoy doing it and thanks for thanks for bringing it up. Bailey.

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: Josh asks I'm reading through Gamers Norman's books for the

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01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: first time, currently on book five, Dance the Dragons and

1350
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: Faltering because I'm scared six and seven will simply never

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Speaker 1: see the light of day. Welcome to the very, very

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01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: populated club. Any encouragement you can give me would be appreciated.

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01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha. Do you want to start off with

1354
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: any encouragement on why should continue? You know what?

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Speaker 2: I would say, this is such a hard question, especially

1356
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 2: when the book series is probably the most famously currently

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Speaker 2: unfinished book series in the world, to the point where.

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Speaker 1: It's like.

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Speaker 2: I would just say, I would just say just enjoy

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01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 2: each book as you go. One, these books are very long. Two,

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01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 2: if you like me and Jason, you can reread them.

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: And three the books exist in a vacuum outside of

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: whatever comes afterwards. And I would just say that if

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01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: you're enjoying them, read them, take a little break if

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01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: you want. And also, you know what, just trust George.

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01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 2: He says he's going to finish him, so I'm like,

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Speaker 2: let's just take him at his word. He's put this

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01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 2: world together he spent decades creating it.

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Speaker 1: He says he's been on a great streak of writing lately,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know. I remain hopeful even as I

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01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: realize as I hear myself say that that that sounds crazy,

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: I would say, and I completely agree with you, Rosie.

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01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: I would say, Josh that I don't know where you

1374
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 1: are in the book, so I need to be careful

1375
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: right saying stuff. But there are moments, and I guess

1376
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: I'll mention that Wyman Manderley, the Lord of White Harbor,

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01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: is involved in the most notable of these. There are

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01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: moments in A Dance of Dragons that had me at

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01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: the edge of my seat because I could finally feel

1380
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: like the story was turning towards something of a resolution.

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01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: And there is an incredible Wyman Manderly's speech in that

1382
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: book that to this day I will break out and

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01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: reread because I think it's so good. There's like just

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01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: some really really wonderful moments and it listen, it is

1385
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: disheartening to realize that like it's like basically stuck at

1386
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: like season five of Gave It Throws, like that's where

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01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: we've been stuck for like twelve years. But I think

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01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: there's some incredible, incredible like sun breaking through the clouds,

1389
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: moments in a dance of dragons that if you've come

1390
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: this far, are absolutely worth seeing through and listen again.

1391
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: I remain hopeful. I remain hopeful, hope we'll find a way.

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01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: I also believe that you know that they're in a

1393
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: cynical sense. There is no kind of media entity currently

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01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 1: in existence that is going to leave hundreds of millions

1395
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 1: of dollars on the table. Those books will come out.

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01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: Will George write them, that is the question. How will

1397
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: they be created is the question. But those books are

1398
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,560
Speaker 1: going to come out one way or another. I know

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01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: George has said that he doesn't want that to happen.

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01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: I guess cynically, I feel like that's just one of

1401
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: those things that is going to happen. Those books will

1402
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: come out, they will be and if George doesn't write them,

1403
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 1: which I think he will again, I remain hopeful they'll

1404
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: be based off his notes something like that. And I

1405
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: certainly think I remain I know that I'm gonna be

1406
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: roasted for this. I remain ninety seven percent sure that

1407
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: we will see Wins of Winter ninety seven percent. I

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01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 1: believe we will see it what year? Q four twenty

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01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Hopeful Mom, Hopeful Mom, Holiday Holiday twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Okay, moving on, Maddie asks what would your dream mission

1412
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: to see on the upcoming season of The Bad Batch,

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: which the first two episodes are out now, and I

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01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: think they're great.

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: They're really great.

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01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: I think they're really really strong.

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01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: This is just such a delightful show. I love these characters.

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01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: For me, really, thing centering around Omega. I've always been

1419
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 2: a huge kind of character kids, sidekick person, and I

1420
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 2: think that this is one of the most interesting spaces

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01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: within that. I also think the first two episodes hint

1422
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: at some good missions that we're going to get around

1423
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 2: the kind of realities of Order sixty six and what

1424
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: happens when it doesn't occur. So basically, I just want

1425
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,799
Speaker 2: to see this ragtag found family go on a mission.

1426
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 2: Maybe after the end of last season where Crosshair kind

1427
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 2: of split off from them, I'd love to see them

1428
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: maybe have to help him out some kind of reconnection there.

1429
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm I'm really excited, and I'm glad that

1430
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: our listeners love the show so much, because I do

1431
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: think it's a really really special show.

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01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: I would love to see some, and we got hints

1433
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: of it, particularly in the second episode of the current season,

1434
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: when you know, the bad Batch are kind of debating

1435
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 1: amongst themselves how how involved in the non existent fight

1436
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: that is currently going on they should get. Should we

1437
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: we understand that something terrible is going on has gone

1438
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: on with the rise of the Empire, should we do

1439
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: something to stop it? And I would be really eager

1440
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: to see their role in the formation of what we

1441
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: now call the Rebel Alliance, if that, if there is

1442
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: a role for them to have, because just the fact

1443
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: that they're debating it, you know, this is obviously a

1444
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: debate that's going on in this particular timeline, in this

1445
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 1: particular time in galactic history, you know, in various just

1446
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: different parts of this story. And I think that the

1447
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: fact that they are having that conversation means that, you know,

1448
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: could we see we're already seeing them kind of get

1449
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: mixed up with their former clone compatriots in a raid

1450
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: and an attempted heist, you know of Count Dooku's you know,

1451
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: former riches that could bring them into conflict with any

1452
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: number of Imperial figures, early Imperial figures, including maybe you know,

1453
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: Tarkan maybe. I think that I would just love to

1454
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: see because we don't know anything about it. I would

1455
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: love to see if they play any role in the

1456
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: formation of the Rebel Alliance and what that would look like.

1457
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: I think that'd be really cool.

1458
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that, especially because the thing that makes

1459
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 2: a bad Batch so special, and the way that Filonia

1460
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: has used the animation in general, is to look at

1461
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 2: all the different small parts that come together to make

1462
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: the whole that is the Rebellion, the people who are background,

1463
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 2: who are collateral damage in the you know, the case

1464
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: of the Clones, and to kind of expand on that.

1465
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: So I think that'd be a lovely way to see it.

1466
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: And then finally, a couple of questions about the Last

1467
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Speaker 1: of Us, which is going to debut next Sunday on HBO.

1468
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Speaker 1: Max Matt says, don't know if you'll cover this on

1469
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: the POT, but I'm a hype for the Last of Us.

1470
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Speaker 1: How much of the first game do you guess will

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Speaker 1: be covered in the first season? What do you think

1472
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: will make this zombie show different from others like The

1473
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: Walking Dead for instance? And then after bedtime Gamer asks

1474
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 1: will you be covering the Last of Us? Adaptation for HBO.

1475
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: If so, any thoughts leading into the premiere. Yeah, first

1476
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: of all, we're gonna be covering it, covering it. Maybe

1477
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 1: we can reveal now as we enter this phase of

1478
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 1: the X ray Vision podcast. X ray Vision will be

1479
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Speaker 1: in your years twice a week, Wednesdays and Fridays. This

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01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: Friday's episode, we're going to be covering the Last of

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01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: Us game. It's gonna be our first installment on the

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01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: story of the Last of Us, the first Last of

1483
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: Us game, which is just a tremendous storytelling experienced, tremendous

1484
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: game experience. We can't wait to bring that to you.

1485
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: And yes, we will be covering the show on a

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Speaker 1: weekly basis. It's in terms of Max's question, Rosie, how

1487
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: much do you think they're going to cover it in

1488
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: this first episode in the first season.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real. I think that the game, I

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01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: think you could tell the most important parts of the

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Speaker 2: game in a season, and I think that would be

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Speaker 2: the smartest thing to do. Do I think they're going

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Speaker 2: to do that? Probably not. I think that we will probably.

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Speaker 2: I think they will probably stretch out over two seasons.

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Speaker 2: Though the game is this kind of all encompassing, and

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Speaker 2: we've both been replaying it like it's this all encompassing storytelling.

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Speaker 2: So much of the time is taken up by you

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Speaker 2: inhabiting the role, and obviously we're not going to be

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Speaker 2: in that space. So I personally think you could do

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Speaker 2: a brilliant limited series. But seeing as this has the

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Speaker 2: potential to be the most successful video game adaptation of

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Speaker 2: all time, you know, touch would, I'd assume they're going

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Speaker 2: to stretch out a bit. I think, yeah, yeah, what

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Speaker 2: do you think?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I was completely agreeing with you. I think

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Speaker 1: what will make this different is going What's going to

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Speaker 1: make this different is than The Walking Dead in particular,

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01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: is the kind of part of the kind of drama

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: generator of this story is a cure, a cure as possible.

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Speaker 1: Unlike in The Walking Dead, where everybody's just like, this

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Speaker 1: is what the world is now and you just have

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Speaker 1: to deal with it.

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Speaker 2: The what gives the.

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Speaker 1: Last of Us game it's devastating emotional and moral punch,

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Speaker 1: is a decision has to be made about trying to

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Speaker 1: make a cure and what we would sacrifice to do it, right?

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Speaker 2: That is I think I think that is and that

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Speaker 2: is a big difference.

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Speaker 1: It's a that is a huge because it's about selfish,

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Speaker 1: it's also it's about.

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Speaker 2: Like it's also finality that The Walking Dead didn't have

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Speaker 2: at the time because the comic book was ongoing. I

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Speaker 2: will also say, in replaying the game, something that blew

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Speaker 2: my mind, and I'm really excited to talk about this

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01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 2: game and and it's kind of origins because something that

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Speaker 2: kind of blew my mind was the game was being

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01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: developed a year before The Walking Dead got onto TV. Now,

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01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 2: the game was probably inspired at least in part by

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Speaker 2: the comics, but there are a lot of differences, and

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Speaker 2: you can see that it becomes this cyclical thing where

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01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 2: the Walking Dead TV show also starts to feed off

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01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: The Last of Us and the way the Last of

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01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 2: Us tell stories one of the biggest differences that I

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01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: think that I was kind of really blown away with

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Speaker 2: playing the game again. I think it's the The Last

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Speaker 2: of Us is a game that is very bleak and

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Speaker 2: has these immense moral choices, and is very sad and scary,

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01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: but it has these unbelievable moments of beauty almost constantly

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01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: throughout the game, even if you're just walking around in

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01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: a broken down landscape about to kill ten people. By

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01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: the way, Tessa's a psycho, Like, she really made me

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01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: murder so many people when I started playing again.

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01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: You know what, like she's every survivor is no judgment,

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01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: but I was shocked.

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01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 2: I was killing a lot of people, and I I

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01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: had forgotten that part. But even when you're just walking

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01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: around the city, you go from it's not that Resident

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01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 2: Evil style Walking Dead style. Everything is grim, everything is dark,

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01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 2: everyone is getting eaten by a zombie all points. There

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Speaker 2: is a lot of quiet, and there are these moments

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01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 2: of beautiful, overgrown nature of peace. And I hope that

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01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: that is going to be something that they keep in

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01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 2: the show because that will really make it stand out

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01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 2: against that kind of grim grit and kind of constant

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01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: grind of The Walking Dead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't wait to dive into that show. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for all your questions. Up next nerd out.

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Speaker 2: Back. In today's Nerd out where you tell us what

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01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: you love them why, listen to Swati pictures us on

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01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 2: the Netflix reboot of Shira.

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Speaker 7: Hello, Jason Rosie and my fellow nerds. My name's Swati

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01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 7: and I'm here today to share my love for Shira.

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Speaker 7: The twenty eighteen Netflix reboot of the classic nineteen eighties

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01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 7: animated series that I grew up on. This version of

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01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 7: Shira is gay Star Wars with a Lisa Frank esthetic

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01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 7: and a bit of Sailor Moon thrown in. It's the

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01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 7: most wholesome show I've ever watched, perfect for adults and children.

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01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 7: It made me laugh, made me cry, warmed my heart,

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01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 7: and I just want to watch it over and over. Also,

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01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 7: it has a banging theme song I can't help but

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01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 7: sing every time I watch. The show is hilarious, with

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01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 7: wildly funny characters and ridiculous shenanigans you'd expect from a

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 7: kid's show, but it also has a very deeply moving

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Speaker 7: story about good versus evil. A quick synopsis, Adra and

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01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 7: Katra are orphans raised by the Hord, a military unit

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01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 7: similar to the Empire. One night, Adorra finds a magical

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01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 7: sword that transforms her into the legendary warrior Princess Shira.

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Speaker 7: She learns that the Horde is evil and trying to

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Speaker 7: take over their world. Etherea, Adorra teams up with the

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Speaker 7: Princesses of Power, but to save the world, she has

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01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 7: to go against her best friends since childhood, Kattra, who

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01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 7: doesn't want to leave the Horde. Over the course of

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01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 7: the show, Adorra searches for her origins as she fights

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01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 7: to do the right thing without sacrificing the people she loves.

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Speaker 7: Over five seasons, Shira explores themes of identity, friendship, sacrifice,

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Speaker 7: and love. The stakes are high in this show. The

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Speaker 7: Princess Alliance is fighting to save Etheria and the universe.

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01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 7: I would compare this to Star Wars Rebels in the

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01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 7: depth of character development and the epic battle of good

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01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 7: versus evil. But my favorite part about Shira is how

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Speaker 7: unabashedly queer it is in Etherea. Queerness is just a

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01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 7: normal part of society and life as it should be.

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01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 7: Princes are married, people have gay parents, and we even

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01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 7: have a very fun non binary character, Double Trouble, voiced

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01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 7: by non binary actor Jacob Tobia. It's how the world

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01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 7: should be, with queerness existing the same as straitness. Also,

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01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 7: Adra and Cattra are the best, will they won't they

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01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 7: ship into They are also deeply heartfelt characters, as are

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Speaker 7: the rest of the cast, which includes Karen Fukuhara, the

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Speaker 7: actress who plays Kimiko on The Boys as Princess Glimmer.

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Speaker 7: So go watch Chier on Netflix. It's five seasons of

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01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 7: hilarious hijinks and epic battles. I hope you enjoyed as

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01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 7: much as I did. For the honor of Gray Skull

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01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 7: Catridora Forever.

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Speaker 1: That's it for us. Big thank you to the listeners

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Speaker 1: for submitting so many incredible questions. Happy twenty two eighty

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Speaker 1: three to everybody. We didn't get to all of them,

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Speaker 1: but we will of course continue to do more mail

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Speaker 1: bags on the show. Rosie, it's time for plugs. What

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01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: do you have to plug?

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Speaker 2: You can find my work on all the usual sites.

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01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 2: I have a website rosinight dot com which will send

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Speaker 2: you to all of them. There's also scenes and comics

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Speaker 2: on there. You can find me on letterbox and Instagram

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Speaker 2: at Rosie, Marx and I will be covering the lost

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Speaker 2: of us at IG. I'll have some cool stuff coming

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Speaker 2: out at Primetime. Are about some other rad shows that

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01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 2: are coming out soon and yeah, just you know, as

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Speaker 2: soon as February comes around, we'll be ampt manning hard

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Speaker 2: so enjoy this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, MC you break catch the next episode of the

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Speaker 1: Extra Vision Pod this Friday, January thirteenth, because remember, we're

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Speaker 1: now coming to you twice a week. That's twice, the

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Speaker 1: Deep dives twice, the Tinfoil hat theories twice, that we

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Speaker 1: were rites twice, the nerd outs twice, the everything's double

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Speaker 1: it and pass it on.

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Speaker 2: five star reviews, baby, we love them.

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Speaker 1: Here's this episode's five star review from Jamison has a

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Speaker 1: truly comprehensive look at the stories we tell. Jason and

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Speaker 1: Rosie do such an amazing job of taking deep at

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Speaker 1: bringing their diverse backgrounds and stories into their analysis. That's

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, We try out back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Jaffison.

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Speaker 2: We love the five star rating.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production. The show

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Speaker 1: is produced by Chris Lord and Saul Rubin. The show

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Speaker 1: is executive produced by myself and Sandy Rhard are editing

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Speaker 1: in sound design. Who's by Vacilli's Photopoulos. Dilon Villanueva and

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Speaker 1: social media. Thank you Brian Vasquez for theme music. See

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Speaker 1: you next time.