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Speaker 1: So with that said, let's get started with the story

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Speaker 1: of the week. Kate Middleton, the name on everyone's lips.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about some updates.

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Speaker 2: So I've personally been holding back on a lot of

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Speaker 2: my theories because I've absolutely consumed with this. I know

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Speaker 2: you probably don't care at all, but I've always just

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Speaker 2: said this fascination with the royals and this story is

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Speaker 2: just setting me through the roof.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say that I don't care, because

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Speaker 1: it is definitely interesting what is going on. I just

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Speaker 1: keep thinking, like, what the hell are these people thinking?

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Speaker 1: But I'm definitely not as interested at talking about it

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Speaker 1: all day every day like you are, so and I

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Speaker 1: know so many you aren't either, So we don't want

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Speaker 1: to flood you with it every week. But we have

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Speaker 1: an important update at least with her medical care to

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Speaker 1: talk about. But go ahead, okay.

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Speaker 2: So back in January we reported that she had a

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Speaker 2: quote planned abdominal surgery, which you were speculating could be

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Speaker 2: various different things, right, Yeah, I think that they did

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Speaker 2: say that it wasn't a cancerous thing, but that doesn't

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Speaker 2: exclude anything for me. Because she could have an infectious process,

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Speaker 2: she could have had a benign process going on, she

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Speaker 2: could have had something like crones or ulcerat of colitis,

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Speaker 2: anything like that. So there's there's a million things that

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Speaker 2: could go wrong inside your abdomen, So abdominal surgery is

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Speaker 2: just too vague for me to even guess on. But

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Speaker 2: in this press release, this is where things start getting interesting.

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Speaker 2: They say she wasn't going to be back until Easter,

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Speaker 2: which is next week. It's next Sunday, ten days from today,

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Speaker 2: on March thirty first, so this is January. So everybody's speculating, like,

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Speaker 2: what surgery could be so intense that she's going to

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Speaker 2: be out for about three months?

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Speaker 1: Right, So things.

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Speaker 2: Start going downhill because of the total press mismanagement of

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Speaker 2: Buckingham Palace. So just little tidbits start trickling out, like

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Speaker 2: William released this public statement and for the first time

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Speaker 2: since he's been single before he was married to Kate,

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Speaker 2: it was signed just William. So people started being like,

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Speaker 2: that's really weird because they've been out before she's given birth,

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Speaker 2: and there's been other illnesses and depths where they haven't

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Speaker 2: been together, so why all of a sudden are his

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Speaker 2: press release is just his name. And then this alleged

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Speaker 2: picture of Kate surfaces and people are questioning, where do

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Speaker 2: they think it's her? And not only does the face

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Speaker 2: if we talked about this photo before on the podcast,

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Speaker 2: but you were saying her face could be swollen in

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Speaker 2: the picture, her mole's not there.

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Speaker 1: It was a very grainy picture.

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Speaker 2: My biggest thing was in one of the photos of

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Speaker 2: her in the car, the tire is silver and in

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Speaker 2: the second picture of the car it's black, so aren't

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Speaker 1: And well that was another.

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Speaker 2: this sloppy photoshop work. It's really really easy to edit

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Speaker 1: Obvious, and some of these photos were officially released by

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Speaker 1: the Palace, it's not just tabloid pictures, which I think

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Speaker 1: that you're under a microscope and you should always be

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Speaker 1: just doing a little bit extra before you post something

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Speaker 1: on social media to say, how can people dissact this

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Speaker 2: I had said earlier I thought it was a Shelley

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Speaker 2: miskevide situation. I think I accidentally mistakenly called her the

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Speaker 2: founder's wife. She's not el Ron Hubbard's wife. She's the

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Speaker 2: guy running its wife. Anyway, So back to the hospital.

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Speaker 2: So the London Clinic, which is where she got her

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Speaker 2: alleged surgery, which nobody knows if in fact she did

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Speaker 2: or not, because there's absolutely no footage of her going

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Speaker 2: of them going in and out of there for appointments.

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Speaker 2: Somebody has tried to access her medical records that works there.

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Speaker 1: My question for.

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Speaker 2: You, having been a hospital employee, can you access anybody's

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a good question, Maria. So I can only

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Speaker 1: in American hospitals. But we have something called HIPPO, which

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Speaker 1: is the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, And when

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Speaker 1: all this continuing education the entire time we work at

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Speaker 1: start working there about patient privacy. And I've worked in

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Speaker 1: a very specific way. At least the places that I

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Speaker 1: So if a specimen came down to the lab, we

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Speaker 1: And this is this is before phones were even a

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Speaker 1: if I'm not directly involved in their care, if that

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Speaker 1: makes any sense, because this trickles into all right, it

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Speaker 1: might not be Kate Middleton, but it might be your

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Speaker 1: next door neighbor and your nose at to why she

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Speaker 1: was in your hospital, and it's none of your damn business.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes and I've gotten specimens in surgical pathology on

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Speaker 1: people that I know, actually on people that you know,

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Speaker 1: and people that my best friends know. But I would

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Speaker 1: that person. That person probably doesn't even know I touched

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Speaker 1: tabloid this story. So I'm sure you said that on

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Speaker 1: But someone like even the people that were that were

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Speaker 1: just it takes me twenty minutes to get to your house.

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00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: It might be an hour like that could have that

434
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: could have turned into a fire if she had a

435
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: vinyl floor or something nearby, like a towel. So yeah,

436
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: I think it's scary.

437
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I agree they should shut off after a

438
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: certain time, but I still think twenty Like, I still

439
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 2: see this happening even with that put in, because you

440
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 2: have to weigh the average time it takes a person

441
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: to do their hair, and you don't want.

442
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: It to keep shutting off. But anyway, okay, on to

443
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: this next story.

444
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: Last month, a woman was riding her bike in Washington

445
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: State when all of a sudden, a cougar came out

446
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: of the woods and attacked her, and then a second

447
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: cougar came out, but she was able to scare that.

448
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: Cougar off thank god.

449
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: Her friends were there the whole time, and it took

450
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: them fifteen minutes to get the cougar off of her.

451
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: The whole time she was trying to choke the cougar.

452
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: She was trying to poke its eyes open, its mouth open.

453
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what I would do in this.

454
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: Situation, I know. And they were saying that the cougar

455
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: was like biting her head. Yeah, like it had its

456
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: teeth dug into her head. So you have to look

457
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: at this story because there's two really crazy photos. One

458
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: is her scars. I mean, when you look at her face,

459
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: you could see that she had some significant injury to

460
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: her face because an animal bite that size is both

461
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: blunt trauma and trauma from just the pure pressure and

462
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: force of the teeth grinding down on the jaw as

463
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: well as the sharp teeth puncturing her face. So I'm

464
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: not sure exactly what injuries she had, but it looks

465
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: like she had some reconstructive surgery and everything. But the

466
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: other striking photo is her friends have this cougar pinned

467
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: underneath of a bicycle, and this face is so sane.

468
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: It's insane, like that they were able to do that.

469
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: I can't even catch my cat sometimes, Like it's just

470
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: it just is. It's crazy. It's a really unbelievable story. Honestly,

471
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 1: it's great that it that it worked out. While they

472
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: were saying the attack was like a solid fifteen minute

473
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: sound scary.

474
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she suffered severe damage to the face

475
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 2: and permanent nerve damage, but at the end of the day,

476
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: she has her life and thank god her friends are there.

477
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: She was like, if I was alone, I'd be done.

478
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't even know what I would have done. So

479
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: totally wild.

480
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: All right. Our next two stories have to do with

481
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: people behind the wheel that shouldn't be behind the wheel,

482
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: all right.

483
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 2: So first, a two year old was standing near a

484
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: taco stand in the parking lot of a gas station

485
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: when she was suddenly hit by a car. So it

486
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: turns out that this guy pulled his truck into the

487
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: gas station, pulled up to the pump, got out, and

488
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: went into the store. Meanwhile, his three year old was

489
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: in the car seat in the back. So first, I'm like, who,

490
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: in today's day and age, who's leaving a toddler in

491
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: the back seat alone.

492
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: There's three rules I could say that were broken right now. One,

493
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: when you pull up to the gas station, you should

494
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: turn your car off. I never do, but you're supposed to.

495
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: Number Two, you shouldn't leave your car alone alone, idly unattended,

496
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: even if there's no one in the car. You're not really.

497
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: That would just be kind of stupid to just do

498
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: because someone could just steal your car. Yeah. Number three,

499
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: you left a kid alone in the car by themself, right,

500
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: and you left it on, which is just what do

501
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: you think kids do when they get in a truck?

502
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: The first thing they do is want to especially if

503
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: the gearshifts on the steering wheel, they want to pull it, like,

504
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: come on, That's exactly what happened. The kid pulled it

505
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: down and it went into reverse and ran over the kid. Yeah,

506
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: so I mean that's what little kids do. You have

507
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: to think like a little kid all the time. And

508
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: the kid's three, so the kid could probably unbuckle their

509
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: seat out themselves, you know. Yeah, and they're not paying

510
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: attention because they're three years old, so they don't know

511
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: any different. It's just like it, and it's so terrible

512
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: like this, this family lost their little kid for something

513
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: so stupid, and I just hate it. I hate that

514
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: this stuff even would still happen.

515
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just was totally unnecessary to leave the kid

516
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: unattended in the car and then this horrible tragedy happens,

517
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: and then you know what I was thinking about, is

518
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: this a situation that, like they keep secret from this

519
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: three year old forever or does she grow up knowing

520
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: that when she was a child she killed another kid?

521
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, like, I hope that she gets taken away

522
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: from her dad. Hopefully she goes and gets gets adopted,

523
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: her is with people that actually care about her and

524
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: her well being.

525
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: Because at first, when I read the story, I thought

526
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: he got out of the car and was pumping the

527
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: guess and in the time he was turned around putting

528
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: his card in there. That's when she climbed out, and

529
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, that could happen to anybody, right, Yeah,

530
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: But then when I read he went in the store,

531
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, what are you doing? Yeah, we all

532
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: know the first rule is you never leave a child unattended,

533
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: And he puts two children in danger, the one that

534
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: got killed obviously in his own that could have gotten kidnapped.

535
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: And it seems like car jackings are up so much everywhere,

536
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: Like why would you ever leave a child in a

537
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: car with the key in the car.

538
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: It's just like it's just dangerous on all levels and

539
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: obviously did not end well. So it's really a shame

540
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: this one family. You know, I mean, both both kids'

541
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: lives are destroyed. One of them is dead and the

542
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: other one is never going to have a normal life

543
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: because either she's gonna get taken away from her parents

544
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: or she's eventually gonna have to come to terms as

545
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: an adult with the fact that she killed somebody else,

546
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: And how do you get over them even if you

547
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: were too young to remember it.

548
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: And then this next story is kind of along the

549
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: same lines in a way. It's a ninety four year

550
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: old person was driving a car and ran over a pedestrian,

551
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: a seventy five year old person, And you just have

552
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: to wonder. As soon as you hear this, you're like,

553
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: why is a ninety four year old person driving that

554
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: There's no rules and there's no laws as to when

555
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: people need to hand in their driver's license and stop driving.

556
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: But we've known plenty, having grandparents and everything else, that

557
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: they don't want to give up their driver's license and

558
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: they should not be driving. And it's so scary to

559
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: think that there's lots of people driving around right now

560
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: that really shouldn't be. I can't even imagine, Like I'm

561
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: forty four and I barely could see now. I just

562
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: can't imagine having like clear enough eyesight and wherewithal to

563
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: be driving and another fifty years or something. It's just crazy.

564
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this seventy five year old woman was innocently

565
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: crossing the crosswalk at a library and this ninety four

566
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: year old like moser down drags her body twenty feet

567
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: and you know it's all because she didn't yield. She

568
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: probably didn't see her, which is like, that's a huge problem.

569
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: Well, according to the AARP, the average age people stop

570
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: driving is seventy five, and there's also statistics that say

571
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: that the most car accidents happen over the age of seventy.

572
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: The other age group that the most accidents happen as

573
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: kids under twenty five years old for obvious reasons because

574
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: they just started driving and they're distracted, and God only

575
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: knows what it's going to be like in a generation

576
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: of people that just all have phones driving, right. But

577
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 1: older people are obviously at more risk of getting injured

578
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: during these accidents because they're old and frail, and if

579
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: they get a serious injury, they can die from it.

580
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: But imagine living seventy five years of your life and

581
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: just dying this way again. I mean, it's hard, hard,

582
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: to say, because let's say that obviously this is probably

583
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: somebody's parent or something. They might say like, hey, I

584
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: tried to take away their license. You can't. It doesn't

585
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: seem like there's anything in place that you could really

586
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: force anybody to do it, which is which which is scary. Honestly,

587
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if moving forward, if you know how there's

588
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: like permits for teenagers, right, and remember they had those

589
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: red stickers that the kids used to drive in Jersey.

590
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for people not in Jersey. When I was

591
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: getting my license, they wanted people that had their permit

592
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: to put these red stickers on their license plate. And

593
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: you couldn't even go take the driver's exam without the

594
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: red stickers. But then they found out like pedophiles were

595
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: using them to track miners. So that's great, that went away.

596
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: Actually it might still be.

597
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen them in like years, so I'm

598
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: assuming it went away. Anyway, I was heavily encouraged by

599
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: my driving teachers not to use them. They were like,

600
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: buy the stickers for the test and don't ever put

601
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: them on your car, which is insane. Anyway, I wonder

602
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: if you know you have to renew your license every

603
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: so many years. So I wonder if once you hit

604
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: like sixty or something, that when you have to renew

605
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: it at a certain point that you would have to

606
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: go in person and then you get restricted versions of

607
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: your license or they'll have to you'll have to take

608
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: some type of test to go forward to keep getting

609
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: your license. Because think of Uncle Jim, for example, He's

610
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: ninety and he drives, but he's he's all there and

611
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: he's with it, but not all people are. Yeah, and

612
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: I listen, I'm not gonna stand up and vouch for

613
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: him because I've never seen him drive. Okay, but we

614
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: know that he drives. Is he good? I don't know.

615
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe not. He does fall a lot,

616
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, exist exactly. Okay, So this is the next story.

617
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: Is a terrible freak work accident that a gang could

618
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: happen to anyone.

619
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: Well, a woman in Georgia died after she dropped an

620
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: air under a conveyor belt and got caught in a

621
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: chain that moved the machine while she was reaching for

622
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: it underneath. You know what's really sad about the story

623
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: is that her coworker was saying she dropped the AirPod

624
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: and said, I'm gonna wait until it's safe to reach

625
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: and get it, and then he turned around and then

626
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden she was stuck in the machine,

627
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: so clearly she didn't wait, but she got her the

628
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: machine grabbed her arm, which ripped her in, and the

629
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: position she was in, nobody could help get her out,

630
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: so they had to call maintenance to shut down the machine,

631
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: and then when emergency responders got there, then they had

632
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: to start cutting through the machine they get to her.

633
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: She did have a pulse when they got there, but

634
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: she ended up dying later from the injury. And it's

635
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: just it's really sad to think that just such an

636
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: innocent task, like reaching down to get your earphone that

637
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: fell out of your ear, and then all of a sudden,

638
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: your life's over.

639
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the coworker is obviously traumatized. That there was

640
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: a significant amount of blood, which makes me think that

641
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: maybe the arm it got so squeezed in the mechanism

642
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: of the machine that it caused her like her breakial

643
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: artery or something to rupture, and that's really why she died.

644
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: So even though she still had a pulse, she probably

645
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: lost so much blood by the time they were able

646
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: to get her out of the machine, because think of

647
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: one of your major arteries being severed, and then them

648
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 1: calling maintenance to come turn it off and they couldn't,

649
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: and calling nine on one of them calming and then

650
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: cutting it. That could have taken fifteen twenty minutes, half hour,

651
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: who knows, but by the time she got to the hospital,

652
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: they weren't able to save her. It's just it is.

653
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: It's just like your whole life. You're twenty one years

654
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: old and you died because you dropped her iPods. It's

655
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: just But she did say out loud, I'm going to

656
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: wait until it's safe. So sometimes you can't ignore that

657
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: little voice inside you. That's like, you know, she ignored

658
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: the little voice that was telling her that it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Well, this isn't even comparable at all. But I just

661
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: told you this right before we shared recording. I was

662
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: why she my knife after cooking dinner last night, literally

663
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: staring at it like should not be washing it this way,

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Speaker 2: only for it milliseconds later to cut through the sponge

665
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: of my gloves and my finger.

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Speaker 1: So it is definitely like it's obviously it's a human

667
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: we do it all the time. This is this is

668
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: when I amputated my fingertip open in the furniture. When

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00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I was taking one of those little

670
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: what are those that was a little you you were

671
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: using like a machete on No. I know, I'm saying, though,

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Speaker 1: what are no? What are those little things that I

673
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: was cutting off? Called I forget, I get the zip

674
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: ties cutting the I was the furniture we were we

675
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: were trying to put furniture together out for my bridal shower,

676
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: for Maria's brider shower. So it's all her fault. Actually

677
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: it's Ricky's fault because because he asked her to marry him.

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00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: Actually it's Gabe's fault because we asked them because he

679
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: full together because he's in school and he and he

680
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: should have been putting together the furniture for us anyway.

681
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Speaker 1: So we decided we were going to do it because

682
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: we didn't want to wait for him. And there was

683
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: zip ties around the furniture. So I said in my

684
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: had like, let me go out in the house and

685
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: get a pair of scissors to cut these. And I

686
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: had a knife outside that I used to open the

687
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: cardboard box. And then I was like like a steak

688
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: knife and I was like, nah, you know what, I'll

689
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: just use this and I slipped right off of it

690
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: and my I permanently damaged my finger forever. Like, guys,

691
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: feel as weird as we're sitting here. This is not

692
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: a steak knife. This this knife is like when you

693
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: would use in the Safari expedition to cut palm leaves down.

694
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't even say, are you guys, I eat big steaks.

695
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. It's ridiculous, all right,

696
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: talk about this.

697
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: This last was not funny at all. A seven year

698
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: old woman picked her grandchild up from school. They went

699
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: back to her apartment building and the elevator doors opened.

700
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: She must have not paid attention, walked through the doors

701
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: and fell right down the shaft. So I want to say,

702
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: luckily they were on the first floor, so it seems

703
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: like she only fell one story like they were at

704
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: least they were on the fifteenth floor, and then she

705
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: fell down the whole shaft.

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00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: Right, But she I mean, but she's old and she

707
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: had she broke her out. What is to say? She

708
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: broke tore her stomach? Yeah, yeah, she tore her stomach,

709
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: which if they're talking about her, did they I don't

710
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: know if she had like a laceration on her abdomen

711
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: because sometimes people refer to that as their stomach, or

712
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: if like her actual organ, the stomach ruptured, that would

713
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: be a more serious issue obviously.

714
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: You know what I was really scared about reading it too,

715
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: is so somebody somebody saw like neighbors solid and were

716
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: able to help, and they got the child was young,

717
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: so they got the child the safety, but the.

718
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: Child like was like great, watch the whole entire things terrible.

719
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, these neighbors were able to quickly

720
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: get emergency workers there and everything. But my biggest fear

721
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: thinking was like what if somebody on the upper level

722
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: called the elevator and then it went down and then

723
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: it like crushed.

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Speaker 1: Her if it was down or was it could have

725
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: been all the way down in the basement, right, yeah,

726
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: but then she would have fell on top of it. Yeah,

727
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. Regardless. I was trying to

728
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: ask Gabelake because the photograph in the article shows what

729
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: would look like a typical like fire escape door for

730
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: the elevator, but they're all buildings have different kinds of elevators,

731
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: like the ones that we think of typically are the

732
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: ones with the sliding doors, but it was the one

733
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: that you would pull open the door, and Gabe was

734
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: saying that they're supposed to have a safety mechanism on

735
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: them that they don't open unless the car is there. So,

736
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: but this goes on to the rest of the story

737
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: that all of the people interviewed were saying that that

738
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: building has lots of problems with mold and mice and

739
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 1: everything else. So they're saying, and people have gotten stuck

740
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: in the elevator before, they've been complaining about it, and

741
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: nobody's done anything, So it all goes together.

742
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 2: Let me tell you I was at school one day

743
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: and the photo floor was on the fifteenth floor in

744
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: Center City. So one day the elevator comes and the

745
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: door opened and the elevator was like three inches below

746
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: the opening.

747
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: Oh God, that is so scary, and I literally walked

748
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: down all the steps. I was like, I am not

749
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: getting on this thing. Something is clearly not right. Elevators

750
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: are really scary. I remember when Gabe and I first

751
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: started dating, we were in some elevator and it was

752
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: like a cream collar paint inside and there was all

753
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: these scuff marks on the ceiling and he said, do

754
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: you know what that's from? And I said, I said

755
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: what And he said, it's from people's shoes when we

756
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: have to pull them out of the top. And I

757
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: was like, what the fie. So and someone actually at

758
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: one of the hospitals I worked at it, so we

759
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: have like service elevators in the back, just so you

760
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: could bring dead bodies in and out and you don't

761
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: have like the normal people going in the hospital don't

762
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: have to see that. And somebody working there, like one

763
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: of the maintenance people were stuck in there all day

764
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: and didn't have a phone on them. It was terrible,

765
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: like all day.

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Speaker 2: Their phones don't work in elevators a lot because it's

767
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,359
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768
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Speaker 1: It's not really they have they use. They have like

769
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: that alarm thing, but I don't if you just hit

770
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,720
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771
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: the button because it's in the back of the hospital

772
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,040
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773
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: if it sends like an actual alert to someone in

774
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: an older place, you know, I don't. But then yeah,

775
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: like Annatt and I were just like we're not going

776
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: on that elevator alone anymore after this, Like that was

777
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: too scary. No, I'd pass out. I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: One of our first episodes, A Mother Knows Death. We

840
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say this is what happened when they

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863
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: remains and they lay them all out and try to reconstruct.

864
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds kind of gruesome, but they take

865
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: all the body parts and lay it out on the

866
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: autopsy table and try to reconstruct a human. And they

867
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: look at all of the parts to see how the

868
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: person died. And they so first they said that when

869
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: when you're looking at dismemberment, you want to know, like

870
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: number one, what tool was used. And they said that

871
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: the margins of the bone were so smooth that it

872
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: had to be some kind of a power tool. So

873
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: you would see saw marks if a person was like

874
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: using a manual saw, but because it was it was

875
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: a power tool, it would be very smooth. So they

876
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: know it was some kind of a sharp power tool,

877
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: but they don't know exactly what. But the next thing

878
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: that you do is look at the margins to see

879
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: if the limbs and the head were cut off with

880
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: before the person died or after the person died. And

881
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: in this case, they didn't necessarily say that her head

882
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: was the articles written weird. I think they didn't say

883
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: that her head was definitely cut off when she was alive,

884
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: but they said that they can't rule out that it

885
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: was that it was cut off when she was still alive.

886
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: So they're basically like saying because sometimes you could look

887
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: at it and say, like, okay, there's no bleeding. That's

888
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: what they look for to see if the heart was

889
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: still beating. There's no bleeding at the margin here, so

890
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: we could say, Okay, this person was dead and then

891
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: they got dismembered. But in this case, they can't tell,

892
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: so they're not saying it for sure, and that would

893
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: just be even you know, a more brutal death. Honestly,

894
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: and just based upon what they said, they didn't necessarily

895
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: also say that all of those things happened to her.

896
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: They just said that she could have been shot, which

897
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: I think is is actually crazy either saying she could

898
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: have died from blunt force trauma or been shot or

899
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: had a sharp force injury. So my assumption is that

900
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: or it said she could have possibly suffocated too. They

901
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: literally covered every single way you could kill a person.

902
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: So my assumption is that her remains were really they

903
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: were kind of decomposed and difficult to tell, but also

904
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: just really there was a lot of trauma to the

905
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: body and the body parts and so bad that they

906
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: weren't even able to really tell like exactly what did

907
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: it because she had to have had sharp injuries for

908
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: them to say that, I don't know what they're saying,

909
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: A possible gunshot, Maybe there was some trauma to the

910
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: bone that they were unsure how that happened, bruising, hemorrhage,

911
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: things like that. So God, it just sounds so brutal

912
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: and terrifying, honestly.

913
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can't even imagine. I I can't

914
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: possibly understand where her parents' bodies might be. That's really concerning.

915
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: That they haven't found them yet.

916
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: Well that's another thing too. So they they've said that

917
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: they think that the bodies of her parents were also

918
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: killed in a similar fashion and dismembered, which makes me

919
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: think wherever they went to the scene and discovered that

920
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: this happened, that there was so much blood it looked

921
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: like it had to come from more than one person,

922
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: that's horrible. Yeah, it really is horrible. It's and and

923
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: they have they have little kids. Yeah, I mean I

924
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: now like her parents are dead too, so like I

925
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't even know where the little kids are.

926
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: But just I always think about this, like when children,

927
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: especially when this day and age with the internet and

928
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: it's just so ego easy to google search something like

929
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: when these kids become twenty five years old, like what

930
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: are what are they going to think if they searched

931
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: their dad's name and this comes up. It's just like

932
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: it's so it's so sad to me that that people

933
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: don't think about that kind of stuff.

934
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't think he was thinking about

935
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: what was happening to his kids if he was in

936
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: a murderous rage and killed three people.

937
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: But I know, but like the wh'll go to jail

938
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: or whatever and they're left behind. It's just it's horrible

939
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: to lose your mom, but then you lost your dad.

940
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: They don't they're little, they don't really understand what happened

941
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: to their dad, their grandparents, like everybody they knew, they

942
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: had three adults living in their life, four adults, and

943
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: now they have nothing, Like it's just it's terrible, all right.

944
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: Next, Florida police received a call about a woman who

945
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: was naked outside of her home. So when they arrived,

946
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: they brought her into the house and she quote stood

947
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: over what appeared to be a human organ. At the

948
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: same time, another officer is going through her house trying

949
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: to find her clothes to put on, and comes upon

950
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: her dead mother in another room with a trauma to

951
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: her chest. That said it was consistent with an a

952
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: visceration of the heart.

953
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

954
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 2: So then the organ ended up being identified as a heart,

955
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: and she said that she killed her mother because she

956
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: was quote me, and she wanted to inspect the heart.

957
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. That. So one of our listeners actually sent us

958
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: this story, and I thank you, and please send in

959
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: stories like this because this is a great one. Well,

960
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: it's not so great for this lady, I guess. But

961
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: they said in some point in the article that it

962
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: looked like she used to be a healthcare worker. So

963
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: I was wondering if she had any knowledge of anatomy.

964
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you right now, if you just told

965
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: if I told you to just take a heart out

966
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: of a dead body, it wouldn't really be so easy

967
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: for you to do. That because of the rib cage

968
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: there if you just had a knife. So I'm wondering

969
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: how she knew where to go to get it out

970
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: so cleanly. It's a little interesting to me.

971
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even think about that. Would it be

972
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: easier to take it out of the back or the front?

973
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: No, it, I mean it's just in case. It's encased

974
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: in the rib cage for protection. It If if I

975
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: didn't have access to a bone saw, I feel like

976
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: the best thing would be to just make why am

977
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: I giving but to make an incision underneath of the

978
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: bottom of the rib cage and just kind of stick

979
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: my hand up there and get it out. But I

980
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: would I would know how to do that. I have

981
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: had to do that because there's been several times, like

982
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: when you get an autopsy, sometimes the family members will say, oh,

983
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: they have this incision on your chest and you have

984
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: to do the whole autopsy through this small little incision.

985
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: So there's been times where I've had to stick my

986
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: arm like all the way up or inside a person

987
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: to get the organ. But I know where they anatomically sit.

988
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: So I just don't really understand how she would do

989
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: it unless she had a saw. To cut through the

990
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: bone or even so if she really knew the sweet

991
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: spots to hit. Sometimes you could cut in between the

992
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: castro chondrial junction, which is like where the bone meets

993
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: the cartilage, and then you can get you can get

994
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: through that with a blade sometimes. But it's I don't know,

995
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: it's just it's just a little yeah, a little sauce.

996
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: You just gotta cut through the junction, you know. Anyway,

997
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: she was hospitalized in two thousand and nine for mental

998
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: health issues, and it was kind of known amongst your

999
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: family she had some issues. What confused me was she

1000
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: was pretty open with the police and her interviews that

1001
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: she killed the mother but then pled not guilty. So

1002
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what that's about. But maybe because she

1003
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: knows she or the lawyer knows, she.

1004
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: Could get off with insanity, because yeah, and I mean,

1005
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's going down that road, all right.

1006
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: This next story has a lot of layers, so let

1007
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: me get through. So in January, this chick told her

1008
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: boyfriend of about a year that she was pregnant, and

1009
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: she said he seemed overly supportive. So now this guy's

1010
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: facing several charges, including rape and assault after he allegedly

1011
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: inserted several abortion into her while they were having sex.

1012
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: So this is this is where it starts peeling back.

1013
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 2: So this guy was a nurse, and she didn't think

1014
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: this was the first time that he tried to induce

1015
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: an abortion. So she told police that after she told

1016
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: him she was pregnant, she he had tried to force

1017
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 2: her to drink a coffee and she believed that coffee

1018
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: was drugged. The following day, they were having sex and

1019
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: he was being abnormally aggressive and engaged in sexual activities

1020
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: he's never done before, which I don't know if that's

1021
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: a red flag for any woman because met are pretty lazy,

1022
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: But so that made her really uncomfortable. But basically he

1023
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: was like, don't go to the bathroom. He was like

1024
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 2: holding her down, not letting her go to the bathroom.

1025
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: He told her to stay home for the rest of

1026
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 2: the day, which is super bizarre, right, So after he leaves,

1027
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: she goes to the bathroom and finds a little pill

1028
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: on the toilet paper, and then later found another one

1029
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: wrapped in foil. I'm not sure if that one was

1030
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: inside of her as well, or if she just found

1031
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: that around her house.

1032
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: Or in her bedroom.

1033
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: Later, but anyway, she confronted him about the pills, into

1034
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: which he at first denied having anything to do with them,

1035
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 2: and then he later admitted that those pills induced miscarriages.

1036
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: All right, you're leaving my hues. I'm getting there. You

1037
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: take it too long, So why haven't you're drone now?

1038
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: So let me finish. So why would somebody do this,

1039
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: you ask? Because this dude was married and had five kids,

1040
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: all right, And he also was the nurse that was

1041
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: taking care of her, so that's how she was. He

1042
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: was considered her primary care provider, and that is why

1043
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: he did something like this. And he was putting the

1044
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: abortion pill inside of her, and which usually consists of

1045
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: twelve pills, and the best thing to do is to

1046
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: put it up inside the vagina. It absorbs through the

1047
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: lining of the vagina, and it causes a miscarriage, essentially,

1048
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: And that's what he was trying to do. If he

1049
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: had any education, he would know that one pill was

1050
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: probably nothing to do anything.

1051
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: He told her he put four inside of her.

1052
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: All right, well, four four would do would would start it? Maybe,

1053
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: But you're really supposed to take four and then wait

1054
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: a couple hours and then take four again and wait

1055
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: a couple hours and then take four again, and that's

1056
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: really gonna get it all out kind of so not

1057
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: saying that just four of them couldn't have done this,

1058
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: but has induced an abortion on her. But they said

1059
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: they didn't even say anything about it, like she didn't.

1060
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: They didn't say that she even had an abortion. And

1061
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that if one of them fell out at

1062
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: least then there was three in there, and that was

1063
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: the only three she had, it probably it probably wasn't

1064
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: enough to cause anything.

1065
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So after the confrontation, she stops talking to him, obviously,

1066
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: and he tries to pay her two thousand dollars to

1067
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: shut up, And then a couple of days after that,

1068
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: his wife shows up at her house and tells her

1069
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: to to press charges because she doesn't want her whole

1070
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: life disrupted, like she gives a shit, right, So then

1071
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: he keeps so then she gets a protection order against him,

1072
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 2: and he keeps showing up to the house giving her gifts,

1073
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: professing his love. He finally gets arrested for violating the

1074
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: protection order and is released on five hundred thousand dollars bond,

1075
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: which how many times do we have to talk about

1076
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: stalking in protection orders and people being allowed to be

1077
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: out right, and then the charge the wife has also

1078
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: been charged with tampering a with a witness, Like what

1079
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: is going on with these people?

1080
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't know? But she like, why is the wife

1081
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: staying with this guy that she knows cheated on him

1082
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: and knows that tried to give this woman an abortion?

1083
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: Like that's not some huge red flags for you. And

1084
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: my question was did he go home and was like,

1085
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: I knocked up the woman I've been having an affair with,

1086
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: and now they tried to give her abortion pills, and

1087
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: now she's trying to expose me, Like how did the

1088
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: how'd the wife find out? I don't That's probably what

1089
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: he did. He probably like ran home. You see that

1090
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: sometimes in people, like people that I personally only know

1091
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: that have cheated or something like that. It's like they

1092
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: they run to their wife like Mommy, I'm scared. What

1093
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: do I do? I'm in trouble. It's like you shut up, dude? Yeah? Yeah,

1094
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: he like who is this dude? He sucks so bad?

1095
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: All right?

1096
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 2: Anyway, this all right? So this next word. This guy

1097
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: was staying at his girlfriend Ronda's house for a few

1098
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: days when one of her friends named Terry, lured him

1099
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: into the kitchen and shot him. So together Terry and

1100
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: Ronda cleaned up the quote blatantly obvious evidence before stuffing

1101
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: this guy's dead body in Terry's truck and driving to

1102
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 2: go get some ice cream with their kids, because that's normal.

1103
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: Right When I first when I first opened this article, doude,

1104
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: do you want me to tell you what my first

1105
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: thought was? What these people looked like faces of meth?

1106
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: Did you ever did you ever see that that there

1107
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: was this like I don't know if it was a

1108
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: campaign or something, but it would show people like what

1109
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: they looked like before they took meth and what they

1110
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: took like looked like after they took meth. Right, Yeah.

1111
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: And then when I read at the bottom of the

1112
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: article that meth was involved, I was like, uh, do

1113
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: you know those ladies are my age? Right? Yeah, like,

1114
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: look at it. It's insane. You know, it's funny as

1115
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: I read they were her age, but it didn't really

1116
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: register with me, and so we just said it because

1117
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: they look seventy five. Yeah, it's just it's it's insane.

1118
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: You really need to look at it. But go on

1119
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: about the story because there's there's even juicier parts to this.

1120
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: The day after the ice cream, Ronda, Terry, and Terry's

1121
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: girlfriend returned to Ronda's house, where they finished cleaning up,

1122
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: and while Terry and his girlfriend dismembered the body, put

1123
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: it in a fire pit and lit it on fire.

1124
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: So let me read some of these text you and

1125
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: see if this rings guilty at all. Ronda, Terry, Kleenex

1126
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: or chlorox is not enough in here, it's everywhere, Terry,

1127
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: we need clothes in a hurry. We need both. We

1128
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: both smell like dead animal. Terry already got more than

1129
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: half of him in the bags. Ronda just found a

1130
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: tooth in my blankets that a one year old has

1131
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: been on. Would you like it as a souvenir? And then, Rada,

1132
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: I'd never rat you out. Don't be a fucking moron,

1133
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: Terry being too fucking paranoid to the point of obsession.

1134
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: Of course, blank needs to be clean, but you were

1135
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: taking it to a whole new level. And the blank

1136
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: in the fire can't even be seen. It's a four

1137
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: letter blockout.

1138
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's for Dick or something, but or maybe

1139
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: his name.

1140
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: But police were alerted to possible homicides. So as they

1141
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: approached the property, they noticed the fire pit burning, and

1142
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: you know, Terry said, in his defense he was angry

1143
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: because the victim allegedly masturbated in front of his young daughters.

1144
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 2: And Terry's girlfriend admitted she was on meth and really

1145
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: angry at the time, so went along with it and

1146
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: further stabbed him in the chest.

1147
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: This is what drugsld to you, you kids, It's just written

1148
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: all over this case. So honestly, like that guy, if

1149
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: he was masturbating in front of a child, he kind

1150
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 1: of deserves to die. But like, let I guess people

1151
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: want to take the system into their own hands because

1152
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: the system doesn't do shit.

1153
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I understand that. But just the

1154
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: way in which this was approached. And then the text message,

1155
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: like the text messages are always you doing.

1156
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: What like, Oh, I just found a tooth on a

1157
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: baby blanket. It's it's so great. I love that. The

1158
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: text messages are kind of the best part of these cases.

1159
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely, But yeah, don't do meth. I think

1160
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: everybody could agree, especially if you're forty and you look

1161
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: like you're seventy five.

1162
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at the look at this article

1163
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: and look at these people all right. Next, a person

1164
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: on the beach in Florida called police after noticing a

1165
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: couple was excessively drinking and then passed out on their

1166
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: beach chairs and their five and seven year old children

1167
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: were aimlessly wandering around with no supervision. So when the

1168
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: police got there, they noticed the people were unconscious. They

1169
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: had a really and I'm saying unconscious as the like

1170
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: passed out drunk. They had a really hard time waking

1171
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: them up, and when they came to, they were like,

1172
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: where's your kids? And the guy points to towards the

1173
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: ocean hopeful right again, there's in this article, there's a

1174
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: video of the whole police cam, which is amazing.

1175
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: So the kids are not in the ocean and they're

1176
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: just completely missing. So basically like the bodycam shows them

1177
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: trying to wake them up and then the guy trying

1178
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: to run away afterward, to which de tripped and then

1179
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: passed out from hitting the ground, and then an ambulance

1180
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: had to come and these cops are probably like, what

1181
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: clowns are these people? So the kids thankfully were later

1182
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: found again unattended, at a local hotel pool. I'm like,

1183
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: how did they even get there.

1184
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: They probably were on the beach of a you know

1185
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: how in like Ocean City or Atlantic City, it's like

1186
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: right on the beach, so you can just you could

1187
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: rent a room there and then you can walk right

1188
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: down to the beach. But there's also usually a pool

1189
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: right there, so they probably left their I don't know

1190
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: if they were originally on the beach with their parents

1191
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: and just wandered away to a pool, but they were

1192
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: at the pool unattended. They were what five and seven

1193
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: years old? Yeah, five and seven year old, completely without

1194
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: parents at a swimming pool. Like, thank god nothing happened

1195
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: to these kids, because they could have drowned either in

1196
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: the ocean or the swimming pool.

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01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: And this guy wasn't their biological father. But like what

1198
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: is the mother doing?

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01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: You know, I mean he.

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01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: Should still sucks, he should still have a responsibility being

1201
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: a step parent figure, But like what are you both doing?

1202
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: So they're both charged with child neglect and then the

1203
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: guy was charged with also having alcohol on the beach

1204
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: because you're not allowed to rank alcohol.

1205
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: Who cares they got They said that it comes with

1206
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: like a five hundred dollars fine and up to sixty

1207
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: days in jail. But he's already out of jail. I

1208
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to go back to court

1209
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: or whatever.

1210
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, but they got to custody, taken the kids

1211
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: got taken into custody and were transferred to a grandparent.

1212
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 2: That's not to say that the grandparent's not going to

1213
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: allow the parents around the kids, but they might not

1214
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: legally be allowed to live with the parents anymood. Yeah,

1215
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: I mean, how how you have to get I understand

1216
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: wanting to be on vacation and having drinks, but why

1217
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: do you have to get so annihilated when your children

1218
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: are around.

1219
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 1: It's just so inappropriate. I don't I don't understand it either.

1220
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: You can't like being a parent means that when you

1221
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: go to the beach you can't relax for like fifteen

1222
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: years or something. Yeah, just like when you take that

1223
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: on I was I feel like I was telling you

1224
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: that the other day. Like what like when Gabe and

1225
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: I get older, we look forward to just like driving

1226
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: down the beach one day and sitting on the on

1227
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: the beach and just like reading a book or something.

1228
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: But like that is not happening right now, and it

1229
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: hasn't happened for a long time until they're old enough

1230
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: that we could say, okay, you guys can swim without

1231
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: us having to watch you like that. It's just it's

1232
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: and and all the other things that could happen too.

1233
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: It's just like it's weird.

1234
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: All right.

1235
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: Let's get onto some medical news.

1236
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 2: A mother is taking to TikTok to let everybody know

1237
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: that teens are using nutmeg to get high.

1238
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was a thing.

1239
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know it was a thing either, But apparently

1240
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: they're saying that these kids were getting their backpack search

1241
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: at school, which I don't know why they were getting

1242
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 2: their backpack search, but then they found a container of nutmeg,

1243
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: and they asked why they had the nutmeg, and they

1244
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: said they needed it for their cooking class. So then

1245
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: when they talked to the cooking teacher at the school,

1246
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: they said they weren't doing anything with nutmeg, discovered it

1247
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: was missing, so the kids got in trouble for stealing it.

1248
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 2: But then they also discovered that they were using it

1249
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: to get high.

1250
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: So someone at the school probably knew about this because

1251
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: apparently when I looked it up, it's a thing. And

1252
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: actually there's been documentation of children and adults dying from

1253
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: getting poisoning from nutmeg. It's insane.

1254
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: I had no idea about this at all.

1255
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: I know I didn't either, but apparently it gives you

1256
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: kind of like a euphoric feeling and some hallucinogenic properties.

1257
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, shit starts getting bad

1258
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: and you start like thinking you're gonna die, and you

1259
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: could have really bad heads, nausea, your heart race, and

1260
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: you could overdose on it.

1261
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so, yeah, it's crazy to see that

1262
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: nutmeg poisoning is a term and it's a thing that

1263
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: happens to people. Yeah, but they're saying a fourteen year

1264
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 2: old was rested the emergency room with severe agitation after

1265
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: ingesting three tablespoons of nutmeg for a TikTok nutmeg challenge.

1266
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: Let's all not do TikTok challenges because we've known through many,

1267
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: many stories and news articles that they're almost always a

1268
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: bad idea.

1269
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: I see. This is the shit that I hate about

1270
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: social media, because I feel like their technology is so

1271
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: good that they're able to block anybody from seeing certain things,

1272
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: like when something says TikTok challenge or challenge, they should

1273
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: just automatically flag all of those, because are there any

1274
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: of them that are actually good? Like, remember they did

1275
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: that stupid ice bot the well, it was for ils,

1276
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: so I guess it wasn't stupid at the beginning. But

1277
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: the ice bucket challenge or something like that, that's probably

1278
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: innocent enough, But some of these other ones are just

1279
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 1: I mean, kids die from it. The far.

1280
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,479
Speaker 2: Somebody died from the ice bucket challenge. Yeah, I feel

1281
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: like they did too. I feel like we talked about

1282
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: that a while ago. Listen, I'd punch somebody in the

1283
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: face if they duffed ice water on my bed.

1284
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be happy about it. No, it's okay.

1285
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: So let's talk about this next one, because this is

1286
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: like something that's right up Maria's ali. Actually, ancestry DNA

1287
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: and twenty three and meters DNA are exposing the uncomfortable

1288
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: extent of incest in the US. So in nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Seventy five, a psychiatric textbook had put the rate of

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01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: incests at about one in a million, But now that

1291
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Speaker 2: we have all this data coming from these at home

1292
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: DNA tests, they're finding that the statistic is actually about one.

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01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: In seven thousand, which is a crazy jump. I mean,

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01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: I guess most people aren't gonna say like, oh, you know,

1295
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: one of my relatives is really my mom's brother or

1296
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: something like that, like they are some you know anything

1297
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: crazy like that. But I think it is more common

1298
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: than you would know. And I think also sometimes that

1299
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: it's possible that people get together and just truly don't know,

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01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: especially with divorce families and such and such, you just

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: don't really know how closely related you actually are. Yeah,

1302
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: so you may ask like, I don't know. I I've

1303
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: never taken.

1304
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: One of these, but I am interested in taking one

1305
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: because a lot of people take them to see if

1306
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: they have, you know, any anything running in their system,

1307
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: like any what's the way I'm looking for, like conditions? Yes,

1308
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 2: well this is this is what this is what the

1309
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: problem is with with this.

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01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: We've talked. We did a high profile dissection on inbreeding

1311
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: in the gross Room, and one of the biggest problems

1312
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: with with it is I think I think often you

1313
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: would think a person that was inbred, like their eyes

1314
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: are a little too far apart and they look funny,

1315
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: and it's it's not really about that. It's more or

1316
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: they'll be born with three arms or all these things

1317
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: that people say but what happens is the it increases

1318
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:13,479
Speaker 1: the risk for genetic mutations. So sometimes if you could

1319
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: have a really bad genetic mutation, so you could have

1320
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: a gene that has the potential to do something really

1321
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: bad to your body, but nothing happens because you're just

1322
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: kind of a carrier of it. But like you because

1323
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: you need sometimes two copies in order to get the disease.

1324
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: But like if you have sex with someone else that's

1325
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: in your family that also has that cop their carrier

1326
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: of that copy, now all of a sudden, your baby's

1327
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: going to have two copies and is going to have

1328
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: that disease. So the further apart you are genetically, the

1329
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: better chances are that you're not going to have that.

1330
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: And genetic mutations can be anything from from systemic diseases

1331
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: that could that could cause death early to cancers and

1332
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: all sorts of things. So that's why it's really important

1333
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: that the genetic lines are not too close. Yeah, totally.

1334
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: And what I was getting at was like people don't

1335
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: take these tests to see if they're in an incestuous

1336
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 2: situation necessarily, they take them to find out, you know,

1337
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 2: their their genetic history and their ethnicity and all of that, right,

1338
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: But then sometimes along the way, like in this article,

1339
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: you can discover that your high school boyfriend is your

1340
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: brother because you didn't know or this other.

1341
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 1: So do you think, like, could you imagine the shower

1342
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 1: that you would want to take if you had sex

1343
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: with somebody and then found out that it was your

1344
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: brother later, Like I just I can't even imagine that.

1345
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really know because I mean, obviously

1346
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: I've never been in that situation, so like, I don't know, Well,

1347
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: you've never done the test, So Ricky might actually be

1348
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: related to you that way, I could say for certain

1349
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: he's not your brother, but he might be one of

1350
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: your first cousins. Well you know what.

1351
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: That's what Also I was thinking when this when this

1352
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: person in this article was talking about that her high

1353
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 2: school boyfriend was her brother, because I'm like, okay, well,

1354
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 2: nobody at all, Like even let's say the child came

1355
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: out of an affair or something, nobody was like, who

1356
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: is that?

1357
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Nobody made the connection, is what I'm

1358
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: getting at. I don't know.

1359
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 2: It just it's so bizarre. And why are they living

1360
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: in the same town.

1361
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know I I know stories. Okay,

1362
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,799
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say is I know people that

1363
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: this has happened to believe it or not so so,

1364
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: and they'll leave it at that.

1365
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: And then and then in another case, this guy really

1366
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: disturbingly said when he took it, he found out that

1367
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: his that his parents were first degree relatives, meaning that

1368
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 2: they were either brother and sister or mother daughter or

1369
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 2: not mother father daughter.

1370
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: So he's like disturbing.

1371
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's like, now I have this disgusting feeling

1372
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 2: that my mom was a product of rape or incest

1373
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: or something like that. And then who knows what you

1374
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: were explaining earlier, which genetically he's gonna be facing now

1375
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 2: because of being a new part of that.

1376
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: Right.

1377
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 2: So it is really nuts. Yeah, we've talked about this before.

1378
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: It's dangerous.

1379
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: You know.

1380
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: The Royals are dabbling in this little bit too. They

1381
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 2: always have because they want to keep the bloodlines pure

1382
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: and whatever. But it is crazy to think, like, I

1383
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: can't even fathom what it would be like to take

1384
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: a DNA test and a find out that like one

1385
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: of you weren't my parents, or like just like I

1386
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: think I think a little thing like we found a

1387
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: we found a relative and then it's like, oh my god,

1388
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: like who my my only blood relative comes up on mine,

1389
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: you know, you know who. But anyway, it's it's it

1390
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 2: is just it's you know, I think that there was

1391
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 2: a lot of shady ship that used to go on before,

1392
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 2: and a lot of people would have affairs and do

1393
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: this and that and just kind of sweep it under

1394
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 2: the rug.

1395
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: And now like never ever envisioning that there would be

1396
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: such a thing that you would be able to test

1397
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: for this. So it's really interesting, it really, it really is.

1398
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm really fascinated by all of this because you know,

1399
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: obviously when the nineteen seventy five statistics came out, they

1400
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 2: didn't have all this data. So and it's you know,

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01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 2: I'm very interested in this and I haven't even taken

1402
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 2: the test yet. So think about how many people still

1403
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: haven't taken these tests and how much more data. It's

1404
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 2: actually probably more common than one in seven thousand, because

1405
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 2: you have to think of all the people that haven't

1406
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 2: taken the tests.

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01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know. That's the thing. Like, even with

1408
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: our family as big as it is, and I went

1409
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: with one of the major companies, like I had it

1410
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: done and only one of my cousins is coming up,

1411
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: but it says this person it attached and was just

1412
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: like this person is your first cousin on your dad's side.

1413
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: Like it just it's so insane how it picks it

1414
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: up like that. But no one else has attached to me,

1415
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,759
Speaker 1: so it's there are a lot of people that haven't

1416
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: done it, and it's it's just really interesting. So the

1417
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: number is surely to get closer.

1418
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: Actually, if you're looking for a present to get me

1419
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 2: at all, I would like one of the twenty three

1420
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 2: and meet kids. Okay, so keep it in the back

1421
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: of your head, Okay, I will all right, A new

1422
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: exercise pill could be in the future, all right.

1423
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: So this this is cool. It actually is cool, Like

1424
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: it sounds really bad at first, but I'm gonna tell

1425
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: you because I was kind of like, oh great, we

1426
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: need this, so like everybody's everybody's going to be taking

1427
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 1: like weight loss drugs and exercise pills and nothing could

1428
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: go wrong, I swear. But I guess they made this

1429
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: chemical that they figured out could mimic what happens when

1430
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: you exercise, and it could build and grow muscle cells.

1431
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: And at first I thought, like, okay, you could just

1432
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: don't be lazy and go exercise if you want exercise.

1433
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: But this is good for people like my dad, for instance.

1434
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: So he's older and he's got a rheumatat arthritis and

1435
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: he has a lot of problems. He can't walk a

1436
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: whole lot, and that means he's not exercising at all

1437
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: really except to just get around a little tiny bit.

1438
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 1: But you get a condition that's like muscle wasting because

1439
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: you're not using your muscles normal really just to get

1440
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: up and go to the bathroom and maybe walk around

1441
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 1: a little. So this drug is good for people like that,

1442
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: or people that are even more disabled that aren't able

1443
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: to use their muscles, So that would be a good

1444
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: thing for this. The thing that I didn't like was

1445
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: I believe it was the doctor who was involved in

1446
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: creating this was just like, or you could just take

1447
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 1: it if you're lazy like me, And I'm like, please,

1448
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: don't don't do that.

1449
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the first that is immediately the

1450
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 2: first thing I thought reading this was that it was

1451
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: gonna be for lazy people. You know, I don't move much.

1452
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm sitting at a computer most of the day.

1453
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: Every day.

1454
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: I played pickleball on Sunday, like the millennial I am

1455
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: and my body hurts so bad, which is ridiculous because

1456
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,799
Speaker 2: it's a sport for eighty year olds.

1457
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I.

1458
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: Could totally see how this will be abused in some capacity.

1459
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: But it is really awesome for you know, people like

1460
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: pop up that don't really have that much of a chance.

1461
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, still get that. I like it. I like

1462
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: what I was reading about that for or all right,

1463
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: let's talk about this hand job.

1464
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: So this was kind of the story I was referencing

1465
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: when we were talking about Kate Middleton's story, which is like,

1466
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: why would you risk something so severe for like, really,

1467
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things, not that much money.

1468
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 2: So a Taiwanese man was hit with insurance fraud charges

1469
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: after allegedly trying to claim one million dollars in payouts

1470
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 2: for a double amputation due to self inflicted.

1471
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:29,759
Speaker 1: Dry ice injuries.

1472
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: And this guy is a hand job because it was

1473
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 2: very easy to prove that he sat strapped in a

1474
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: chair with buckets of dry ice around to his feet

1475
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 2: because the person that helped him took pictures of it.

1476
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: Idiots. So he goes to the hospital and says that

1477
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,520
Speaker 1: he got in some kind of he got these injuries

1478
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: because he was riding his motorcycle or something, right, And

1479
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: then they looked back at the day he said he

1480
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: was doing it, and the temperatures were only forty three

1481
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: to sixty two degrees outside, so they were like, at

1482
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: the hospital, there's no way this guy has like stage

1483
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: four frostbite when it was that warm outside. And furthermore,

1484
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: they said that the injuries to his skin looked like

1485
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 1: he wasn't wearing any socks or shoes when it happened,

1486
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: so they started getting suspicious. And he also again took

1487
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: out a bunch of insurance policies right before he did this.

1488
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: Yeah five, Yeah, like no red flags are going off

1489
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: there right.

1490
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 2: Well, so yeah, so one of them paid him seven

1491
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, and then the four others alerted police because

1492
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: like the time frame between him taking out the policies

1493
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: and his quote incident were too close together, so they

1494
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 2: had him look into it.

1495
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: Yes, so I had him look into it. So he

1496
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: had such severe frostbite. And you could imagine because when

1497
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,799
Speaker 1: you see the photo of him sitting with his legs

1498
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: in buckets of dry ice like this that are burning

1499
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 1: his skin. And he had to get both of his

1500
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: bottom of his legs and mutated off like good jobs.

1501
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 2: So my question, was it worth losing both of your

1502
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 2: both of your like feet and then you know your mobility,

1503
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 2: your mobility and everything else, and having your life change

1504
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 2: forever to try to get a million dollars, which we've

1505
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: talked about. We had a similar story a couple of

1506
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: weeks ago. Is it worth permanently being disabled to get

1507
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: money that will really only last you like a couple

1508
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: of years. It's not like a lifetime payment. A million

1509
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: dollars today doesn't really get you far. There's a lot

1510
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 2: of inflation. I will get you through like a week

1511
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: of groceries right now. His friend like, seriously, well the

1512
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: groceries are so expensive right now. His friend said he

1513
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 2: was okay helping him do it because he thought a

1514
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 2: gang was after him.

1515
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: Like, you both are idiots. I wonder the friend will

1516
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: get in trouble. And he's twenty four years old, like

1517
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: his entire I mean think about this, like he could

1518
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: live to be a seventy five year old person. I mean,

1519
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: granted with with his level of intelligence, I'm not sure

1520
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: how long he's actually going to live. But fucking moron. Yeah,

1521
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 1: total moron Okay.

1522
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: Next, a really sad story. An eight year old boy

1523
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 2: ate strawberries that he brought home from a school fundraiser.

1524
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,759
Speaker 2: Later that night, he was showing signs of an allergic reaction.

1525
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 2: It appeared to be a rash at first, and his

1526
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: family gave him benadryl, gave him a bath. When the

1527
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: symptoms weren't really going away. Then they brought him to

1528
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 2: the er. But it seems like they were there and

1529
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: a record breaking three hour turnaround time before they were

1530
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 2: sent home. And then the next morning, you know, they

1531
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: woke up and he was just unresponsive and was dead.

1532
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: I really was reading about this story trying to figure

1533
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: out exactly what happened, and I don't know, to be

1534
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: honest with you, because there's something that you can get

1535
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:51,879
Speaker 1: called biphasic anaphylaxis, which is like you have this initial reaction,

1536
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: because anaphylaxis happens quickly after you're exposed, so you could

1537
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: have the initial reaction and then it could get treated

1538
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: and then it could come back hours later, which you

1539
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: would think is probably what happened to him. But when

1540
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: he went to the hospital, I don't know if his

1541
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: symptoms were that severe that he was in anaphylaxis for

1542
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: the first time. Do you understand what I'm saying? Could

1543
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: because they gave him medication though, but benadryl. I don't

1544
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: think it would be strong enough. But I really don't

1545
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: know because I'm not one hundred percent sure with the

1546
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: treatment and everything like that. But when a person The

1547
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: reason I'm saying this is because if a person does

1548
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: go in for anaphylaxis, which I mean, they maybe should

1549
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: have been a little bit more cautious because he was

1550
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: having an injury which required him to get medical attention.

1551
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: They recommend that you keep the patience and observe them

1552
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: for at least four to six hours and up to

1553
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: twenty four hours because of the rare risk of this

1554
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: recurring again, which is I mean, they'll see when they

1555
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: do the autopsy if his throat has a demon in it,

1556
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: which is like swelling and that's what happened, or he

1557
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: has fluid in his lungs or something. They'll be able

1558
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: to tell what happened at the autopsy, And we definitely

1559
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: will report back if we hear anything about that, because

1560
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: that's kind of going to fall on the hospital honestly,

1561
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: for because I would do the same exact thing. Like

1562
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: if they if I brought the kids to the hospital

1563
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: and then they they were having an allergic reaction and

1564
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: they discharged us and said everything was okay, and then

1565
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: we went home, I would be like, Okay, that was

1566
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: a little scary, like let's go to bed, good night's sleep.

1567
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: I just wonn't even I think any parent would just

1568
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: do the same thing. And it's just really upsetting and

1569
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 1: scary that that happened.

1570
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, yeah, I mean, we probably won't get

1571
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: updates about this, but I'm sure if it was something

1572
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 2: other than an allergic reaction, we will. You know, well,

1573
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: they were trying to I guess they did go to

1574
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 2: the hospital to talk to the people about what they saw,

1575
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: and they feel really confident that it was due to

1576
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 2: an allergic reaction. And I think him getting the rash

1577
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: or the hives, I mean, that would make more sense.

1578
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: And no one else reported getting sick either. It's it's

1579
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 2: completely possible that.

1580
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: He had an allergic reaction to it. People are allergic

1581
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: to strawberries. Like, it's just it's possible. It's just it's

1582
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: just a free it's a freak thing. It's just it's

1583
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: terrible for the parents terrible. Yeah, Okay.

1584
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: A twenty three year old woman is suing a nail

1585
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 2: salon in Portland, claiming that due to their poor hygiene practices,

1586
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 2: it gave her genital herpes.

1587
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: So she's saying the way that the article is written

1588
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: is so crazy because you're like, wait a second, like,

1589
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: how did that happen? What? So so this and this

1590
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: happens typically every like a lot of nail salons you

1591
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,480
Speaker 1: go to, you're kind of like, all right, your practices

1592
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: do not look good. You know that A Lucia and

1593
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: you have had situations where we've gotten pedicures and you've

1594
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: gotten like infections in your toenails.

1595
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: It's that place near my house, which is disgusting.

1596
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I never had a problem there, honestly,

1597
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: but the only problem I had was them overcharging me.

1598
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: But regardless, So what happened was this lady said that

1599
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 1: the drill bits so that they're like metal little nail

1600
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: files that they put on the electric nowl files or

1601
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: the drills, they weren't sterilized and they were in an

1602
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: altoid's container, which I'm not really I'm not really sure

1603
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: if there's something that's supposed to be sitting in barbecide,

1604
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 1: but I would I would guess that you probably should,

1605
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: But I don't think that you need to sterilize nail files.

1606
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure.

1607
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 2: Think about this though. So she also said that the

1608
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 2: nail tech wasn't wearing gloves, and I cannot tell you

1609
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 2: a single time I've gotten my nails done where they like,

1610
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: I've never had a nail tech wear gloves when I've

1611
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 2: gotten my nails done. I've also, like you're saying, never

1612
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: ever ever seen the drill bit stored in any.

1613
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 1: Type of solution or seen it. It's something that needs

1614
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: to be addressed, I think, because I think, I think

1615
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: like the cuticle nippers have to be because they can

1616
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,839
Speaker 1: draw blood, but we all know that the nail files

1617
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: get to Yeah, they do, they can and they do.

1618
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 1: And so apparently somebody had this lesion on their finger

1619
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: called a herpadic whitlow, which is herpies on your finger,

1620
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: and it could be it's usually caused by type one virus,

1621
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: which is the kind like when everybody thinks of herpes,

1622
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: they either think of cold soares on the lip or

1623
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: genital herpes, and you can really get herpes, not only

1624
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: everywhere else on your skin if you have an open wound.

1625
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 1: But you also could get it internally in your brain

1626
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 1: and in your liver and everything else, So just not

1627
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: as common. You don't hear that. So type one is

1628
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: the one that's usually associated with oral herpes, and type

1629
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: two is the one that's associated with genital herpes. So

1630
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: these herpaddic whitlows are these herpes Lesions on the finger

1631
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: are usually type one, or the oral type, but in

1632
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: like forty percent of the cases they could be type two,

1633
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: which is the genital herpes type. And I mean that

1634
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: could happen because you have an open wound on your

1635
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: finger and then you go touch a woman that's got

1636
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: genital herpes, and then that herpes can get inside the

1637
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: wound on your finger. So that's how you get genital

1638
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: herpes on your finger. But at the nail salon, if

1639
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 1: they were using a dirty now bit and hit somebody

1640
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: that had genital herpes on their finger, they can then

1641
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 1: transfer it to another person.

1642
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she said before the appointment, she certainly did

1643
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: not have herpes. A couple of days after the appointment

1644
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: is when the infection started on her finger. She started

1645
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 2: feeling sick and then when she went to urgent care

1646
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 2: to get it checked out, they swabbed it and that's

1647
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: when it came up positive to be herpes.

1648
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's how they have seen it was type

1649
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: two at that time too.

1650
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it wasn't just some like far fetched I

1651
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: have a bluster on my finger and this is what

1652
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: it is. She actually went through the proper steps to

1653
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 2: get it checked out. And this nail Slan was also

1654
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: previously fined in twenty twenty one for not properly sterilizing

1655
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:15,919
Speaker 2: their equipment.

1656
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: But the thing is is like, how how do you

1657
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: prove that? I don't know how you could possibly prove

1658
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: that she can prove that she got swabbed. They probably

1659
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: swabbed it because they probably thought it was like a

1660
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: MRSA infection or something, because those her paddic whitlows can

1661
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: look really nasty. So they did it was it was

1662
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: smart though they do have a very distinct appearance, so

1663
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: they did a viral culture on it and figured out

1664
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: what it was. But how is she going to prove

1665
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 1: that that's where she got it and she didn't pick

1666
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: it up that night like doing something. It's it's I

1667
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: don't know if it's possible that she's going to actually

1668
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: be successful.

1669
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how they're gonna go about that,

1670
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: but I'm really interested to see if this pans out

1671
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 2: and if she wins me.

1672
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: Too, because this could happen to anyone. And really they

1673
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: I think when they do the regulations and stuff for

1674
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: now salons, the electric drill is a fairly newer tool

1675
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 1: that's used, and I don't know if they've updated since

1676
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: people started using those things.

1677
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, moving along, This chick took a selfie

1678
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 2: when she was on a trip to New York and

1679
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: then noticed her I was drooping a little bit, so

1680
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,759
Speaker 2: she booked an appointment with the doctor, and it turns

1681
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 2: out that after an MRI, she found out that she

1682
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: had a brain tumor.

1683
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she was diagnosed with a tumor caudamin angioma,

1684
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: which is a benign tumor, so it's not cancerous and

1685
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: they rarely metastasize or spread elsewhere outside of the brain.

1686
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: But the thing is is that I actually just wrote

1687
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: a post in the grocer room about this last week too,

1688
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: because just because a tumor is called benign doesn't mean

1689
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: it that it can't kill you. And in the case

1690
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: that I showed in the gross room, it was this

1691
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 1: forty seven year old guy who just he was he

1692
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: seemed to be healthy, and he died. And when they

1693
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: did the autopsy, everything looked fine. All his organs looked

1694
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: fine in his chest, cavity and everything. And then when

1695
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: they took out his brain, whoa, he had this huge

1696
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: meningioma in his brain that he didn't even know about.

1697
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: And when they went back to tell his family, they

1698
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 1: said his family was like, yeah, he was having really

1699
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: bad headaches for the past couple months leading up to this,

1700
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: but nothing was working and that was it. Though he

1701
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: was completely fine otherwise. And how many of us could

1702
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: say we have headaches?

1703
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: Right?

1704
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: So she had this. She looked and she did this

1705
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: selfie and was just like, wait, one side of my

1706
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: face looks like it's drooping. And she went and got

1707
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,759
Speaker 1: it checked out, and sure enough, she had this this tumor.

1708
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: And the reason that it's so bad is because your

1709
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: brain is in your skull pretty tightly and there's not

1710
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: much room for something the size of a golf ball

1711
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: or the size of a base ball to be growing in.

1712
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 1: And what it does is that tumor will then compress

1713
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: the brain, and it'll compress some of the vital strug Sure,

1714
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: so depending on where the tumor is located can really

1715
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: be dependent on if it kills you or if you

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01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: have symptoms. I'm thinking like, if she was having one

1717
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: of her eyes droop, it might have been pressing on

1718
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: one of her nerves that's responsible for keeping your eyelids

1719
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 1: open and blinking and everything. So that's probably what happened

1720
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: with her. But it's it's good that she was aware

1721
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: that something wasn't right and went God checked out.

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01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Next, in August twenty twenty three, this woman who

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01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 2: is considered an otherwise healthy person, decided to undergo an

1724
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: elective MRI full body scan.

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01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: I believe.

1726
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: Is this what we talked about with Chris Jenner before.

1727
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the Kardashians was just doing this just

1728
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, this is why this lady was doing it.

1729
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: She's seventy years old, and she just wanted to see

1730
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: if she had any little cancers that could have been

1731
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: caught before they became a big deal.

1732
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So she was shocked when the scan detected a

1733
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 2: large aneurysm in her pancreas area. Which ultimately saved her life,

1734
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 2: even though she's never presented symptoms of how a problem.

1735
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so apparently when people have it's kind of a

1736
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: more rare anneurism, and anneurism is a like a bulging

1737
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 1: of the artery wall. If you think about if you

1738
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: have a tire like on your bike or something, and

1739
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: you see that little bubble pop out, that's an aneurysm

1740
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: of a tire. It's sixty four percent of people. So

1741
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: what happens when you have a tire that has it

1742
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: that has a bubble in it. It's at risk for

1743
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: popping very easily if you have if it has minor trauma. Right,

1744
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: So sixty four percent of patients that are diagnosed with

1745
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: this end up coming in because the thing already ruptured.

1746
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: And that's a problem because it's a major artery off

1747
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: of the A order and it could cause someone to

1748
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: bleed to death.

1749
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's crazy. I mean, I know before you

1750
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 2: were taking a stance that these are unnecessary tests to

1751
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: get done, but I think if you're older, especially they're

1752
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 2: pretty positive.

1753
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: Like in this case. Yeah, I mean listen, like if

1754
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: in a perfect world everybody would be able to get

1755
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: these donb but there's also just like, oh, so you

1756
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: could just get it done because you have more money

1757
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 1: than other people, Like I don't like that.

1758
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let them do it if they want to

1759
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 2: do it.

1760
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, all right.

1761
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 2: Other death news. So, this homeowner in Florida was doing

1762
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,759
Speaker 2: some yard work trying to get his property ready to rent.

1763
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 2: The house was undergoing renovations. So he's in the backyard

1764
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 2: when he discovered toes sticking out of the ground. So

1765
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: he runs inside to tell the woman working inside the

1766
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 2: house to call on one on one. The cops come

1767
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: and they said they observed two feet sticking up out

1768
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 2: of their ground.

1769
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 1: Out of the ground.

1770
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,560
Speaker 2: The body was dug up taken to the Medical Examiner's office.

1771
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 2: It has not been identified as of yet, and there's

1772
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 2: no word on the cause or manner of death.

1773
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: How did it get there? I don't know. He's like,

1774
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: who is this person on my property? I mean listen, like,

1775
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: clearly the guy was killed, because why else would he

1776
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: be buried? Yeah, Like he didn't bury himself, right, And

1777
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: they're saying that his toes were black, thinking that they

1778
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 1: were saying that it was probably because he was decomposed.

1779
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:05,799
Speaker 1: Who knows what the hell happened, but he.

1780
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 2: Certainly shouldn't have been there. Yeah, he certainly should have

1781
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 2: been there. And good luck renting that house now because

1782
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 2: there's pictures of it all over tied to this story.

1783
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: So I wanted to see pictures of the toes sticking

1784
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: out of the ground. Just there's just pictures of all

1785
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 1: the police tents.

1786
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: Boring, Okay, onto Question of the Day every Friday on

1787
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 2: that at mother nos Death Instagram, we put up a

1788
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 2: little question box in the story so you guys could

1789
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 2: ask whatever you want. First, what are we doing at

1790
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: crime Con. We're doing a lot of stuff at crime Con.

1791
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 2: I have a lecture that's about an hour.

1792
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: Or two hour.

1793
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 2: I think it's an hour, and then there's a little

1794
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 2: Q and A and maybe a meet and greet after.

1795
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm doing real a cool lecture. I already

1796
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: wrote the outline out, so I think you guys will

1797
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: really like it. And we're doing a live episode like this,

1798
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: which I'm a little nervous about, very nervous. I'm just

1799
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm just nervous because we won't be in like our

1800
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: normal groove of the way that we do things. But

1801
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm not nervous about doing it. In front of people.

1802
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: It's more just like, well, like we print our notes

1803
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: out right before we do this, Like, are we gonna

1804
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 1: have access to a printer? Like I can't use an

1805
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: iPad or something like I need to have I need

1806
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: to do things the same way every time, or that

1807
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 1: they get screwed up.

1808
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to figure out the logistics of Yeah, good,

1809
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 2: call the hotel.

1810
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: Right now and be like I need a printer.

1811
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: Well it's a conference center, so I'm sure they have

1812
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 2: I know, but just just like stupid stuff like that.

1813
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're all Are we doing anything else? Yeah,

1814
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: we're doing some meet and greet. It's like book signing maybe,

1815
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,799
Speaker 1: like I don't we don't have it one hundred percent.

1816
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have a booth too, so you can

1817
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: stop by the booth and get some more information. We'll

1818
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 2: have information about the gross room, and you know, we're

1819
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 2: still planning that out, so maybe we'll have a little

1820
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 2: game or something.

1821
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know. We gotta sit down and do that. Yeah,

1822
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: all right.

1823
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: Next, does an autopsy feel like a workout?

1824
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? It does sometimes. I remember the first time that

1825
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: I was learning how to take out someone's brain. It was.

1826
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: It was like very difficult for me to use even

1827
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: just the bone saw because this this saw does a

1828
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: lot of the work for you, but it's also just

1829
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: kind of heavy to hold it, and then you have

1830
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: to push through the bone at the same time, and

1831
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:24,719
Speaker 1: it hurts your arm. It's like it's like a workout

1832
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: and it could take it could take like twenty or

1833
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes or a half hour when you're first starting,

1834
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 1: because it's just like it's just tedious to get through.

1835
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: And then some people have thicker skulls than others and

1836
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: it's just hard. And I remember my mentors always like

1837
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 1: me being like, can you finish? My arm hurts so bad.

1838
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 1: And then now of course I could do it really fast,

1839
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, it just depends, especially if people way more

1840
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: because we have to bring them from the gurney to

1841
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 1: the autopsy table. So yeah, I would say so, especially

1842
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: in the summer. I would get really sweaty sometimes and

1843
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: uh my shield always in the summer like fogs up

1844
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 1: because it's always like humid and philly, and just yeah,

1845
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: it's a workout, all right.

1846
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 2: Last, what's your go to coffee order?

1847
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 1: I'm kind of off coffee right now, Like.

1848
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 2: You're drinking a lot of bacha though, which has caffeine

1849
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 2: in it.

1850
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I'm I'm not off of it because

1851
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: of caffeine. I'm off of it because it seems to

1852
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: bother my stomach a little bit. I do have it

1853
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 1: once in a while, But like you're saying, if I went,

1854
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 1: like if I went to Starbucks or there's these two

1855
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 1: really good coffee shops in katee May when when Gabe

1856
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: and I go, I'll get like a dirty chai. It's

1857
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 1: called so it's a chai latte with a shot of

1858
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 1: espresso in it. And I I never had one from

1859
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: Starbucks as a good I don't like Starbucks chai if

1860
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm being honest. It's like too syrupy. Yeah, Like the

1861
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 1: one in kate May is so good because it's very

1862
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 1: I don't even remember the name of that. I don't

1863
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: love that place either. I do. It's really spicy, like

1864
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 1: it kind of burns. I love it. I would drink

1865
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: that like every day if I could figure out how

1866
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: to make that. I make like like macha every day

1867
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: at my house though pretty good. So that's that's what

1868
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: I drink every morning when I wake up.

1869
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 2: If I go to Duncan, I will get a straight

1870
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 2: up like iced coffee cream and sugar, but that's mostly

1871
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 2: because I don't trust them to make anything else. Oh

1872
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 2: you know what I love there is I get they

1873
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: have this coconut syrup that's sugar free. I don't know

1874
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 2: it's it's it doesn't have that weird stuff that makes

1875
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 2: you shit yourself in it. That's all the sugar free stuff.

1876
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: But the coke, I will get the coconut syrup and

1877
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 2: that's really good. And then if I go to Starbucks,

1878
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 2: I like, right now, I really like the macha with

1879
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 2: the lavender cold foam, but they're putting so much lavender

1880
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 2: in it that I have to get the lightest option

1881
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 2: possible because disgusting otherwise. And then if I go to

1882
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 2: like a local coffee shop, I'll get whatever their specialty

1883
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 2: latte is because I like trying different flavors and stuff.

1884
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: But I love coffee a lot. I'll have it once

1885
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: in a while. I just like, I don't know what happened.

1886
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 1: I lost my taste for it a couple of years ago.

1887
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: I used to drink it like five times a day,

1888
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 1: and now I'm kind of like, eh, once.

1889
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 2: In a while, I hope that never happens to me

1890
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 2: because I love it. So okay, guys, well thank you

1891
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,719
Speaker 2: so much. Don't forget to go to doormatter dot shop

1892
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 2: to shop these new collection of shirts. Don't forget once

1893
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 2: the shop closes, they will not be available again, so

1894
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 2: you definitely don't want to miss out. We'll be posting

1895
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 2: about it on social media and everything, and if you're

1896
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 2: a grocery member, you'll have links and all the info

1897
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 2: you need to need.

1898
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 1: You need to know that need to need. But yeah,

1899
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 1: so thank you guys. Yeah, don't forget to treat your

1900
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: vagina to some vamponds. It's so amazing.

1901
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 2: No, seriously, I like it's been such a treat having

1902
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:51,719
Speaker 2: them in my bag.

1903
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 1: It's that weird, you know, it's that weird shame of

1904
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 1: I always, like you said, every single time I pull

1905
01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: something out of my purse, one falls out, and it's

1906
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 1: always just the mostful thing, which it shouldn't be, but

1907
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: it's just this weird. Why are the rappers so terrible?

1908
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 2: I don't know, but no, but vampines have seriously figured

1909
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 2: it out. Because they're sleek. They matched the lining of

1910
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 2: probably most perses, so it's not as obvious they're in there,

1911
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 2: and then you don't have to like awkwardly like stick

1912
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 2: it in your sleeve or your pocket trying to hide

1913
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 2: it because it just looks nice, just simple.

1914
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 1: I feel like the box. It gives me that vibe

1915
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,440
Speaker 1: of you know when you get like a new iPhone

1916
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 1: of a Mac product and you open it and the

1917
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: box is just so like slow glide. Yeah, it's like

1918
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 1: that really thick, nice box. Yeah, it is like a

1919
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: shitty like like the other brands that it just I

1920
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 1: don't know, I like it. Well, we've been loving them,

1921
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 1: so we hope you guys do too. Thank you so much, Thanks,

1922
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Mother nos Death. As a reminder,

1923
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologist assistant. I have a

1924
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 1: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

1925
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

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