1 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to Between the Horns presented about 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: your Southern California Toyo to dealers. LA is riding a 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: three game winning streak into Baltimore for Week fourteen with 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: the conductor. 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: Oh, I just love that. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Kobe Turner, Johan and Us Jamarco Farr what a great 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: sacks and Maurice Jones threw what a way to finish 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: last week's game. Two defensive tackles pushing Flacco out the 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: back of the end zone. 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Oh the sack. I thought she meant the skip down 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: the sidelines, which was awesome. 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: That's for you to take. 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: See. That's what I'm talking about. That's what football does. 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: See two grown men skipping having a great time in victory. 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: That's just fun. But yeah, great sack, great way to 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: end that football game. Awesome. 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Something different about MJD. Have you noticed what let's see 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: he saw? He definitely took his son's shoes again. 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, these are deuces, Bright take them for sure. 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: You stole your sons, it's just not stealing. As I'm 21 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: leaving out the house, I just slide my feet and 22 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: whatever is there at the door, and these have been there. 23 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: That's that's technically stealing. 24 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: But I was referring more to his haircut, and I 25 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: can only assume that he wanted to look fresh today. 26 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: Because we are collectively coming off a record setting episode 27 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: between the Horns. What you mean, You're highest rated ever? 28 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: And some people are saying it was the Toyota patio 29 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: at Sofi Stadium that did it. Some would say the 30 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: Rams success. It was one of our longest episodes, and 31 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: people have been clamoring for like a second half to 32 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: the show each week. 33 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: Away a wrap up show. I like it. Yeah, let's 34 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: go along again all forward. Man. 35 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: I thought it was great conversation last week, and I 36 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: thought we really broke down the game well. And then 37 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: on top of that, who would have thought John Johnson 38 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: gets a pick and then gets like mush By alignment 39 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: after he gets to pick that a guy he played. 40 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: With, crazy, which is pretty awesome. Crazy. Yeah. 41 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: But between now and a trip to Baltimore, you have 42 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: business to take care of it. 43 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we've got state title to win. 44 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: You know, da DAYA Sizzan one one is twenty fifteen, 45 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: so we got a big one against Mission Vieho at Saddleback. 46 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: College and an Orange or Mission one of those places 47 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: down that. 48 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: It's all the same down there. As you're getting down 49 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: I five. You know, the bus is heading down now 50 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: as we're doing this, as we're recording this. I flew 51 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: down and I'll meet him later on tonight. But you 52 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 3: got your speech ready, your pregame speech. I just talked 53 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: to him, that quarterback. You know, we say we don't 54 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: mess this up. 55 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: It's we're good. Don't mess it up. See Maurice, I 56 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: love it. Yeah, all right. 57 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Well, the Rams are six and six, winners of three 58 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: and a zo three in a row. The Ravens are 59 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: nine and three and like four different opponents this year. 60 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: They'll be coming off there by right, Pittsburgh was coming 61 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: off of by Dallas, off of Bye now Baltimore and 62 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Washington next week too. Uh so they're healthy. But the 63 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Rams actually came out pretty well from that win over Cleveland. 64 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Who would have thought that Puka Nakua played that second half. 65 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: It's an ac sprain in his shoulder, we hear, but 66 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna be good to go this week. 67 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: Man. Look, Pooka is phenomenal. Man. Watching them play has 68 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: been a lot of fun. I mean, watching Cooper Cup. 69 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: The rise of Cooper Cup was fun. But just the 70 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: way Pooka plays the game, and I just he's he's 71 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: fun to watch. And when he came back in the game, 72 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: talk about a guy with a sense of drama, like 73 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: you thought, like even Sean mcvagh said, I thought the 74 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: guy was dead and then he showed up, came back 75 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: out and played so and he's tremendous when he's out there. 76 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, watching Pooka Nakua and doing what he's doing, 77 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: and there's more to come from him, it's just been 78 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: special to watch. It's been a whole lot of fun. 79 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee is another one to watch. He had that 80 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: shoulder stinger issue. And then Quentin Lakes still battling back 81 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: from his hamstring. If the report from Baltimore about the 82 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: weather forecast is true. That's a tough game to come 83 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: back from a hamstring again, slipping and sliding around the 84 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: natural grass surface. But he could be a factor if 85 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: he is able to go. 86 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: But I think the biggest thing is making sure that 87 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: cleats are right, and the cleats kind of those seven SuDS, 88 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: they make your hamstrings pull a little. 89 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: Bit more because it's sticking in the ground and you're. 90 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: Pulling a little bit I remember having a hamstring injury 91 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: and then having to wear seven SuDS the next week, 92 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: and it's you got to make sure you're ready to 93 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: go right. I didn't have to play dB, so I 94 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: had to turn a run as much. But being able 95 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: to have those set they grab a little bit more 96 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: than those normal cleats, and may you have to You're 97 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: gonna have. 98 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: To wear them. You're gonna have to be ready to 99 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: have those on. Everybody comes interesting here? Am I wrong? 100 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Would you rather have a high ankle sprain or a hamstring? 101 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Hamstring seemed like they just for the rest of the year. 102 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: Neither neither neither neither, But if you had to pick right, 103 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: hammies just don't go away cutting. 104 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: But I can control as a running back, I can 105 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: control my Hammi cut. I don't have to. I'm not 106 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 2: going as fast dB. 107 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: You can't control what the guy you're going with right, 108 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: so that hamshan could lock up on you quickly. 109 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I was interested to hear Sean McVay refer to the 110 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay trip this week in anticipation of rainy, windy 111 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: conditions in Baltimore and basically can see that they weren't 112 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: as prepared as they could have been or didn't pivot 113 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: quickly enough as that rain started to come down in 114 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: Great Green Bay. Hopefully they learn from that and will 115 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: be this week against the Ravens. As for the quarterback 116 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: who will have to spin at Matthew Stafford with plenty 117 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: of experience in foul weather games. 118 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 4: You can't simulate those conditions here. You have to go 119 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: see what the conditions are and then go play accordingly 120 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 4: in my opinion, right like you can squirt the water 121 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: the ball with water, and then inevitably in a game 122 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 4: you're gonna get some snaps for you're like, oh, ball, 123 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: it's pretty dry, I can throw it here, and other 124 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: times you're gonna get it and you're like, yeah, I can't. 125 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: You know, I just kind of gotta go PLAYE plays 126 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 4: as its own and you can't expect for it to 127 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: be perfect every single time, but you do get a 128 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 4: good grip on it every once in a while, try 129 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 4: to put it in a good spot and if not, 130 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: then you know, figure out a way to get around it. 131 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: But it's more philosophical than like, you know, I mean, 132 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 4: how do you want to go play the game? How 133 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: are they going to play the game? How are we 134 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 4: going to play? The game, find a way to win it, 135 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 4: because it's you can practice all you want, but it's 136 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: not going to replicate exactly, you know, sideways rain out there. 137 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: And then that leads me to the other change since 138 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: we last spoke, and that is at the place kicking position. 139 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Veteran Mason Crosby side of the practice squad this week 140 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: with the anticipation that he could be bumped up to 141 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: make his RAMS debut at Baltimore. 142 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: Your reaction, Let's see, would you rather have a young, 143 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: strong legged you're not sure where it's going, or kind 144 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: of older and accurate depending on what type of team 145 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: you have? 146 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 3: Right to watch how you say older because me and 147 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: Mason Crosby went on the Colorado Bits together out of 148 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: high school, and so I don't think I'm old. 149 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: I don't think he's old. Well, technically I'm just saying 150 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: he's older, yeah, but not old. Well, this sort of team, 151 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: I mean a guy that is not afraid of the moment, 152 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: a guy who's been through this before, a guy who 153 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: can kick definitely outdoors. That's the guy you want to 154 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: take to Baltimore. 155 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: I've been in this situation. Two thousand and seven, we 156 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: had John Carney come in. He was much. He was 157 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 3: like forty right, forty two, and we knew once you 158 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: got to the thirty was it was money. 159 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: So you know you have a there's a target place. 160 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: Everything else was four down territory. 161 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: If we got bats to fifty, it's four down territory 162 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: until we got to the thirty if we had to 163 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: kick a field goal, and it kind of it makes 164 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 3: it easier for the play call. It makes it easier 165 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: for the team because we know, look, if he's great 166 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: at forty five, we got to get to whatever the 167 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 3: yard Larne like, that's where that's where we'll start kicking 168 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: field goals. Other than that, it's four down territory and 169 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: helps you kind of get in more rhythm. 170 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: I like what I saw to Lucas Haverstick in terms 171 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: of the way the ball jumps off his laces, the 172 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: height of his kicks, the length of it. But I 173 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: think this move makes sense. And two respects. One, the 174 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: Rats are playing for different stakes now than maybe theyre 175 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: a month ago, and so to have someone who can 176 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: make those kicks that you expect to make great and 177 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: then they're gonna finish with games on a natural grass 178 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: surface at Baltimore in bad conditions, they're gonna have to 179 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: play outdoors at the Metal Lands and then finish at 180 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Levi's who knows what January will bring. I 181 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: think it makes sense to at Mason Crosby, who Okay, 182 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: he's more East Jones Drew's age, but there isn't a 183 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: surface on this planet he can't kick from. Sure, he's 184 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: used to the frozen tundra, so he gives you a 185 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: little bit of that, and hopefully Lucas can hang around, 186 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: either be back this season or certainly someone that you 187 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: want with you for next offseason program. I think as 188 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: a kicker of the future. 189 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: So if you've got a line up for a sixty 190 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: plus to win it, I might ask Ethan Evans just 191 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: tell him it's a kick, right, yeah, just go ahead 192 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: and mang it down there. 193 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he seems just going off the crossbar last week. 194 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: Did you should get points for that? Right? That's what 195 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 196 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So winners of three in a row, 197 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: six and six, the Rams are very much back in 198 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: this thing. The playoff picture is where we should go next, 199 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: and let's start with their remaining schedule. I see it 200 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: as like a Super Bowl Sandwich. You got Baltimore on 201 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: the front end, San Francisco on the back end. Those 202 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: could very well be the Super Bowl participants. And then 203 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: in between three opponents that the Rams measure up well against. 204 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: How many of those do you need to win? Three 205 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: might get you there, four should absolutely do it. In 206 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: five nothing to worry about. 207 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: Man, that's stale bread in between. Right, that's a hard bite. 208 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: You got Baltimore and San Francisco to finish up, but 209 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: you got to get this one. I mean, this is 210 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: going to be hard. So you've had what three cracks 211 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: at the AFC North and you're one and two, two, 212 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: you let get away, You finally get over the hump. 213 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: You beat Cleveland, and now you're about to face the 214 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: best of the best, and not only that division, possibly 215 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: the NFL or the AFC. So it's going to be hard. 216 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I think what we saw coming 217 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: from Arizona it was the right opponent. And then what 218 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: we saw versus Cleveland, how this team is starting to click. 219 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: You're getting on a roll. I think you're getting ready 220 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: to play your best game coming up, and it coincides 221 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: with playing your best opponent in the last month or so. 222 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: Since Dallas. So let's see. I know they're coming off 223 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: of bye, they're going to be fresh, but I think 224 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: you can negate that by how you're playing on both 225 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: sides of the football right now. 226 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting you compare it to the North, which is fair. 227 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: I kind of look at those mountaintop opportunities so far 228 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: this season. Played well against San Francisco, couldn't get it done, 229 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: played well against Philadelphia, couldn't get it done, weren't ready 230 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: for prime time in Dallas. Here's one and then week 231 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: eighteen at San Francisco. Those are kind of the five 232 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: games against teams that could be the last standing. And 233 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: if you want to be in that playoff picture, you 234 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: got to get one of them, maybe, if not both. 235 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 236 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: I think it's a test and it's a different challenge 237 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: of what Cleveland was. Cleveland has a They have a 238 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: depth issue right now, right because all these the two 239 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: different quarterback guys heard all over the place, whatever may be. 240 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 3: Baltimore is more of a will test. It's gonna test 241 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: your will. They're gonna test your will like they're gonna 242 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: run the ball at you. Defensively, Lamar is gonna throw 243 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: the ball. He is not running as much as he 244 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: used to last time they came to LA. But defensively, 245 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: they're gonna throw so many different things at you right 246 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: and a lot of it is not talked about as 247 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 3: Hamilton and their safety from Notre Dame who's making big 248 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: splash plays and a lot of times he's blitzing off 249 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: the edges. They're gonna attack your protections. They're gonna do 250 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: some different things. So, yes, running the football is gonna 251 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: be like vital, but when you are throwing the ball, 252 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: understanding who the guys that you have to block and 253 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: getting them blocked immediately, not allowing those guys to run 254 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: all around because they cause chaos Baltimore do they cause 255 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: chaos defensively, So to me, if you can handle that 256 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: chaos right in there in the rain in Baltimore, across 257 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: the country, all those different things, it sets you up 258 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: to be a little bit more confident as you go 259 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: into the playoffs. And I think that's what we're seeing 260 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: the Rams right now is they're building confidence. Right, you 261 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 3: beat Cleveland, you beat all these teams on a three 262 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: game street, you're running. 263 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: Things are going well. You beat Arizona, you're confident. 264 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: Now we're going to test your confidence and your will 265 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: in this next one, and we're going to figure out. 266 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: If you guys are really who you want to be. 267 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: It's all gonna happen really quickly too, because you make 268 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: this trip, you got three games in twelve days, come 269 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: home to Washington, then have the quick turnaround for Thursday 270 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: night football against New Orleans. It's gonna be Christmas. It's 271 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: gonna be week sixteen before we know it, and the 272 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: Rams are gonna have a lot of clarity with what 273 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: they have to do to play beyond San Francisco. 274 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: Oh, this is gonna be good, like everything you've gone 275 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: through when you were three games below five hundred to 276 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: fight your way back up to five hundred, and just 277 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: how you feel about yourself and you mentioned confidence, I mean, 278 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: I mean, how how sky high are you when you've 279 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: just won three three in a row in the National 280 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: Football League? You think you can beat just about anybody? 281 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: Everything the coach says, if we need to do X, 282 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: Y and Z to win this football game, and you 283 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: hit everything on the checklist, you're gonna feel like you 284 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: can beat just about anybody. You're gonna need that. Going 285 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: down to Baltimore, who feels the exact same way. So 286 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: best team win on game day. 287 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's look at the company they're keeping right now, 288 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: the group of six and six in the NFC picture. 289 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: They started the Seahawks free fall. We'll see if it 290 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: continues against the San Francisco forty nine ers this week. 291 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: But then green Bay is there and Minnesota is there, 292 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: and I probably had that one wrong. I thought the 293 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: Vikings with Dobbs were gonna go on a run and 294 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: maybe get out of reach. But now that I see 295 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: them lose on Money Night Football to Chicago with their 296 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: remaining schedule, compared to green Bay, who has the head 297 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: to head over the Rams and a very favorable five 298 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: game finish, I think it's Minnesota. You got a track down? 299 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: What about you? 300 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think green Bay not about the head to head. 301 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: I feel like that was the Rams game was our 302 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: Arizona game right for them, Like they beat us and 303 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: then they started. 304 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: Playing better and better and better and better. 305 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: Where Minnesota still they don't know what they're doing, right, 306 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: Dobbs is like trying to figure out still stuffing. No, 307 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 3: they're gonna get Justin Jefferson back, and I think you're 308 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: exactly right. You're gonna try to chase them down. But 309 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: to me, it's you have to. When you're in that 310 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: chase mode, you can't look too far ahead, right, You 311 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: can't look to see who they're playing and what they're doing. 312 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I man, oh yeah, yeah you can. Rams locker 313 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: room should be looking at it. But I'm looking at 314 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: it being like, Okay, at Las Vegas at Cincinnati two 315 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: against Detroit and green Bay. Yeah, if you cannot perform 316 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota from this point, Ford, I think you're probably. 317 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: I think you're good to go. 318 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: I do too. All right, let's go back to Cleveland 319 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: before we take a look at the Baltimore Ravens. It's 320 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: not Joe Flacco this week. It's not fifty percent Miles 321 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Garrett this week. I get that. But what played from 322 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: Sunday at Sofar going into Baltimore this week. 323 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: Well, hopefully the running game, hopefully the way that the 324 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: Rams offensive line took care of the Cleveland defensive line 325 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: and pass rush, pass protection as well. I mean Matthew 326 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: Stafford was largely you know, unhit, untested. I mean when 327 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 2: they did get pressure, he scrambled out. So I thought 328 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: they did a fantastic job. And I thought the reason 329 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: for that was because you were controlling the line of scrimmage. Now, 330 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: Cleveland is one thing, but you have to give them credit. 331 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: They are built similar to what you're about to see 332 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: in Baltimore. So to me, this was the excellent sparring 333 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: partner to get you ready for Baltimore. But I hope 334 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: the running game travels. Kyron Williams coming back has changed 335 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: this offense again, and maybe who knows. Do you think 336 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 2: there is a Pro bowler on this offensive line? If 337 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 2: you can beat Baltimore, go to seven and six, put 338 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: yourself firmly in the hunt. I mean, this is when 339 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: and you have to start figuring out why, and then 340 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: you start looking these numbers, Matthew Stafford not getting hit. 341 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: You have one of the better running games in the 342 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: National foot Like, I wonder, can you pull someone out 343 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: of this offensive line into Pro Bowl consideration? And who 344 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: would it be? Dotson? Maybe the way he's blocking, the 345 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: way he's changed everything. 346 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: I think the Pro Bowl is a little bit more 347 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: about bigger names than it would be. But playwise, yes, 348 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: I think you could get Dotson. You probably could get 349 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: Alaric Jackson, who's done a great job at left tackle. 350 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: I mean, the only time we talked about Miles garret 351 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: Is when his helmet was stuck to his face. Mats right. 352 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: There's not many guys that can do that. If you 353 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: go back and watch with Clevelan, Miles Gartt did dead Baltimore. 354 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: He was harassing Lamar Jackson. To me, though, the one 355 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: thing I will take is defensively, it was the leverage 356 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: they played. 357 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: They didn't They didn't lose to their leverage. So many 358 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: times we'll see dbs. 359 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: Have outside leverage and let a guy run a corner 360 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: and break out right like that pick on John Johnson. 361 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: And I wanted to kind of describe. 362 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: It a little bit, but I was talking too much. 363 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: So no, no, you weren't talking. You were excited. I was. 364 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: I was ready to go, and they were. They got 365 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: on the ball, they got rolling. 366 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: But Fuller is the reason that pick happened because Joe 367 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: Flacca wanted to throw the ball to the guy Fuller 368 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: was covering. But Fuller jumped outside because he had outside 369 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: levers and cover three. It made Joe Flacckell hold the 370 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: ball and takes it a little longer and then try 371 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: to throw a hell Mary down the field. And guess 372 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: what you have DK outside and you have John Johnson 373 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: inside and they had like a funnel on whoever the 374 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: receiver was running down the field, and then Joe throws 375 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: it inside. 376 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: John Johnson picks it off no matter where he threw 377 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: it was. 378 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: That's the kind of defense you have to have when 379 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: you're playing the Baltimore Ravens, because you want to funnel 380 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: everything to people. You got to force the mar to 381 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: be like insanely accurate right where he's putting the ball 382 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: between tight windows. Right when you do that, and you 383 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: make him go to a second and third ree, which 384 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: he's done a really good job at this year. He 385 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: still tends to let the ball sell, though, and it 386 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: kind of flutters a little bit when he has to 387 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: if it's not the first read guy, if it's not 388 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: a quick slant to Odell or a quick drive route 389 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: to Zay Flowers, if he has a pump and hold 390 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,359 Speaker 3: and throw to someone else, the ball sells. So defensively, 391 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: I thought the secondary did a great job in the 392 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: second half of really playing to their leverage and not 393 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: allowing Joe Flackel those easy throws they were giving to 394 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: Mariy Cooper early on. 395 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to see where the Browns were 396 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: shorthanded or to fish in some areas. I don't see 397 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: that from Baltimore anywhere. Like I look at their two deep, 398 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: I look at the way they're playing. I look at 399 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: their metrics. They look complete to me. Other than Mark 400 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: Andrews being on the shelf at tight end, they're all 401 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: pro tight end. Where's their weakness? 402 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: I don't see one. Maybe offensive line. They've been a 403 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: little banged up there. Lamar has been a little banged up. 404 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: But that is the downside to play in that style 405 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: of ball, and it's tough and physical, and I love it. 406 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: I love the way Lamar Jackson plays football. If I 407 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: was an offensive coordinator, that's the type of offense I 408 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: want to run because I know what it does to 409 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: a defense. But the downside of it is you're getting 410 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: beat up. Sometimes you're not going to be yourself. You're 411 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit slow. So if that's a weakness, 412 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: then that might be it. You may be banged up there, 413 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: but the way they're playing and then they're going to 414 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: have the week off, the way they execute. Look, you 415 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: can't make mistakes. Even if you play it right, he 416 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: could be by you and on defense if you make 417 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: one mistake in pass protection. You go the wrong way, 418 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: step the wrong way. Not only is the guy going 419 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: to get home, he's going to get home fast and 420 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: hit your quarterback. So this is going to be like 421 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: you said, you're gonna have to be on your p's 422 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: and q's. The mistake you got away with versus Cleveland, 423 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: You're not going to get away with versus Baltimore. 424 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: Now that's where you call that like a sparring match. 425 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: This is the heavyweight for this is it? 426 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy is coming. There's no head gear. This 427 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: guy's coming for a knock. 428 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: It's funny because Todd Munkin was with me and Jacksonville 429 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: as our receiver coach, and they run a very similar 430 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 3: offense that we ran with David Garrard. Not as much 431 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: as a quarterback run play, but a lot of crossing 432 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: routes right, a lot of things that layer of the 433 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: defense to get the ball quickly out of his hands. 434 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing defense, Well, the first thing 435 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 3: is offense. If you want to kind of help your 436 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: defense out, you got to go down and score points, right, 437 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: You got to go down and put points on the 438 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: board early to force them to kind of get out 439 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 3: of things, especially when you're on the road. We all 440 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 3: know when you're on the road and you score early, 441 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: the boom birds start raining down quickly. Like then it 442 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 3: kind of starts to create a little pressure. The thing 443 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: with Lamar Jackson is if you could eliminate the in 444 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 3: the red zone, those quarterback run plays that we've seen, 445 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, if you can eliminate those and force 446 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 3: them to have to be traditional offense, you'll have a chance. 447 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: You talked about being a deep team one and two 448 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: is a magic. They have like fifteen guys on are 449 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: though they still have a lot of dudes that are 450 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 3: hurt and running backs and different. So they've done a 451 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: great job of really acquiring talent overall and getting guys playing. 452 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: To me, though, I still think there's ways that you 453 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: can if you're the Rams, not about them, it's about you. 454 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: If you go out there and execute and play, you 455 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: can go. I don't think they have a guy that 456 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: can stop Aaron Donald, but I also know that they're 457 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: going to try to put six hundred pounds on Aaron 458 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: Donald as much as they can double team them getting 459 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: them one out of there. 460 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be some things. 461 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 3: I think that's the key we talked about this last week, 462 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: like Kobe Turner playing the way he's playing has been huge. 463 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 2: Finally, Yeah, somebody is taking advantage of the attention air 464 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: in a scene. Well, somebody on the inside. 465 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: The outside guys are still like Byron Young, still setting 466 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: an edge and doing the physical things like those are 467 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: We're more equipped, I say we is the Rams. We're 468 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: more equipped to handle these bigger style run teams than 469 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: we have been. 470 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: In the past. Like a three hundred pound edge. 471 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: You don't see that as much, right, Byron Young doing 472 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: what he's doing, You don't see that as much. 473 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: Right Your linebackers are feeling hit in the hole. 474 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: It's just a different mentality that we've seen on the 475 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: Rams defense in the last couple of years. 476 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: I like that. I mean so much of my focus is, Oh, 477 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: these Ravens are built different than the last time we 478 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: went there when their secondary was decimated. It was Huntley 479 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: not Lamar, right, and this time around they look well stocked. 480 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: But the Rams are built differently too. This is a 481 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: different complexion to this roster than the Super Bowl year 482 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: when they went and got a crucial victory in Week seventeen. 483 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if the confetti ever falls at 484 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: SOFI Stadium if they don't win that game, right, it's 485 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: the fours? 486 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: Was it a fourth down play? 487 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: Fourth and five? Odell catches it behind his year hold 488 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: and move the chains and then the touchdown on the 489 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: next play. 490 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a big one. 491 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: That was you're talking about against and we knew they 492 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: were good then, but you're talking about against a backup 493 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: quarterback And that was how fo were they trailing in 494 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: that game with the Rams most of it most of 495 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: the game, and I mean they were trying to put 496 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 3: you out and you refuse to go away, and then 497 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: you got the you took the lead and won the 498 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: football game. 499 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: That was huge. The postgame celebration in that locker room, 500 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: you could tell something had changed about this football team 501 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 2: because you had done the impossible. You had won there 502 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: in that style of ballgame, and how you did it 503 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: and who you did it with. Yeah, I agree with you, JB. 504 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: Without that victory, I don't think you get to the 505 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, let alone win it. 506 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: There's a note in here, I'm not sure I can 507 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: find it, but the Ravens have essentially trailed for the 508 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: fewest amount of minutes this season, like they've had the 509 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: lead at the end of every third quarter. If there 510 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: is an Achilles heel, it's their fourth quarter. But they've 511 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: been dominant through the first three and often coasted to 512 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: victory the rest of the way. Speaking of OBJ, should 513 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: we hear from our old friends, Yeah, now playing for 514 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: the other side. All love between him and Sean McVay 515 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: this week, as you might expect. 516 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 5: Special bond that I have with those guys over there, 517 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 5: Coop Stafford. You know, I still could hit a little 518 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 5: group Chad and you know, talk some trash to him 519 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 5: this week, and just it's just all love and respect. 520 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 5: You know, McVeigh has been He kind of was the 521 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 5: person who or the whole situation organization kind of brought 522 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 5: me back to loving and having joy for football and 523 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: understand na true professionalism and being prepared. And it was 524 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: just a great experience for me alongside of you know, 525 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 5: winn a su Bowl, but uh, just overall, it was 526 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 5: one of the best things that's happened in my life. 527 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the areas where they're 528 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: much different than they were a couple of years back 529 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 1: when the Rams went there and got that twenty one victory. 530 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: Is they've got more weapons on the perimeter. Obj obviously 531 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: healthy and playing well. And then Zave Flowers, he and 532 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: Puk and Nakua are going to wage a great battle 533 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: down the stretch for kind of best rookie receiver in 534 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: the class. 535 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: Well you're talking about I mean, this is kind of 536 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: how they were able to perform without Mark Andrews. 537 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: Right, It was so funny. 538 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: I remember early in the year, they're like, oh, Nelson 539 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: Aguilar and Rashad Badman and all these guys. They had 540 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: five former first round receivers or guys are draft in 541 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: the first round. I don't care how bad they were 542 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: with whatever team. Them dudes got some type of ability, 543 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: and you got speed, you got different things and different 544 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: body types. And then all of a sudden, Mark Andrews 545 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: goes down and I was like, man, like he was 546 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: such a crucial part. Oh, now they're gonna come out 547 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: in quads before receiver ten personnel, right, or they have 548 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: likely that'll step in and make some plays. And then 549 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: they still let's remember, they still have a three hundred 550 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: and fifteen pounds fullback that they're gonna utilize it tight 551 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: end as well, right, So they're equipped to be able 552 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: to make some plays. But when they can, what's tough 553 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 3: on a defense? DeMarco correct me if I'm wrong. I've 554 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 3: always believed this. If I can come out in ten 555 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: personnel one play, and then switch to twenty two personnel 556 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: and then switch back to eleven and just move all 557 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: around and all these pieces, you got guys, you got 558 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: big guys moving on and off the field, running back 559 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 3: and forth like it makes it tough. And then they 560 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: play such a physical style of football. They'll be in 561 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: ten and still run the ball right at you right, 562 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: and it just it just is kind of a mind 563 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: game on the defense. But you know, Odell going there 564 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 3: really amplified what they were, what they were trying to do. 565 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: That's why they paid so much for them. You know, 566 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: I hope this is just for for ticket selling purposes 567 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: that you get derrionn Kendrick on Odell in the game 568 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: at some point. Wouldn't they see Look, wouldn't that be fun? 569 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: I'd be worth a price of admits, Oh my god. 570 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: And I would say, DK, just go ahead and talk 571 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: your trash man, go ahead, is Odell, don't say anything. 572 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: I mean, just look, you know, he he's going to celebrate. 573 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: Ev makes a catch and you know that's going to 574 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: get a reaction out of number one. So that is 575 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: going to be worth the price of admission. If you're 576 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: playing against forty four, he's just gonna shout at you 577 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: and not say a word. I hope you get number one. 578 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 2: I hope you get combustion on combustion and it just 579 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: goes to Boom. That's going to be fun too. 580 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: Let's go. 581 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: But I'll say this real quick about personnel grouping. I 582 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: think Rahee Morris and this defense do a great job 583 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: of matching personnel and they rarely make a mistake. When 584 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: they see a personnel group they shift, they change. There's 585 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts to this defense. But the 586 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: one thing I do see is teams are starting to 587 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: trap them in regular They'll keep the extra linebacker on 588 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 2: the field and then take advantage of that guy. So 589 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: that will probably be Baltimore's game plan at some point. 590 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: Trap Troy Reader out there and then try to has. 591 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: Been an interesting mix of off ball linebacker right Ernest 592 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: Jones coming off one of his best games, but Rose 593 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: Boom's been out there early less as Readers taken over more. 594 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: We'll see what that looks like. This week. No, that's 595 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: a very multiple offense in Baltimore. So I was going 596 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: to take you to Keys to victory there and no 597 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: Odell celebrations after touchdowns with be an obvious one. But 598 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: what else is on your mind to have this chance 599 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: to upset Baltimore. 600 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: I think I'm not going to say running games. 601 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: I said that the last couple of weeks, even though I should, 602 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: I feel like I should say running running back. I 603 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: think the line of scrimmage on both sides is going 604 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 3: to be the most important. Whoever wins that right being 605 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: able to create that two yards off the line of 606 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: scrimmge the offensive line in the running game, and also 607 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: protecting your quarterback and then defensive line being able to 608 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: stop their power running game, to be able to stop 609 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: their fly sweep they run the same play, they run 610 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: very similar plays to the Rams. Be able to stop 611 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 3: that fly sweep motion with your with your outside lineback 612 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: when he sees that motion come, but then also to 613 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: harass Lamar like the line of scrimmage has to be 614 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: won by the Rams in this type of game. It's 615 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 3: just like Pittsburgh, Like it's just AFC North. They want 616 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: to win the line of scrimmage. The only way to 617 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: beat them is you win the line of scrimmage, period, 618 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: point blank. If you do that, you'll have success and 619 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 3: you'll come home happy. 620 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: Wow. Don't let it come down to the kicking game, 621 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: really either. 622 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: Way, justin Tucker Mason Crosby. 623 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: Do you know Tucker's gonna miss a game winner? He did, though, 624 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: but you just know he's not gonna. 625 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: Miss He's not the most accurate kicker anymore. 626 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: Young way, Kuz. I mean, I'm just asking to you. 627 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, don't let it come down to that. 628 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 3: But defensively speaking, this is funny. 629 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: It's it's no secret you're gonna have to tackle because 630 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: what they're gonna do offensively spread you out, make you 631 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: play one on one and tackle Lamar or whoever one 632 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: on one, and you've got to make those tackles and 633 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: field conditions will play a part in that. That's gonna 634 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: be a mess. So that's gonna be something key. Taking 635 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: it one step further, somebody on defense has to make 636 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 2: plays before Aaron Donald does, somebody else, Kobe Turner, Michael Hoyt, 637 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: Byron Young, somebody else, and Huns one, two, and three 638 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: have to kind of dominate those quarters, dominated, drive, dominate 639 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: a series. What have you take Aaron into the fourth 640 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: where he can win it and be the closer. So 641 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: somebody we're gonna have to be talking about somebody else 642 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: going into the fourth quarter. Before we talk about Aeron, 643 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: let me ask you this. 644 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: Do you see the Rams running their five linemen and 645 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: then then with a nickel and a linebacker more because 646 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: they have they wanted to keep that line of scrimmage there. 647 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,239 Speaker 2: It depends on what they roll out offensively. If they 648 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: give you two tights, you match up. If they give 649 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: you three, you're gonna have to match up. But I 650 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: don't think you're gonna go to a six man front. 651 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: Last week, a lot of a lot of people didn't 652 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: recognize that you're gonna go to a six man front 653 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: with four down lineman, two outside linebackers, like. 654 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 2: A six to one. I was like, oh, okay, Like 655 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: if you do, but you know, if that leaves you 656 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 2: singled up for Adobe j that's the thing. That's what 657 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: I mean. Do you think you can hold up with 658 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: those guys one on one for an extended period? What 659 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: do you think we'll see, Jake Flowers? 660 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: I think I think the Ram secondary is as is 661 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: in as good a place as they've been all season 662 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: to do just that, and maybe the weather kind of 663 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: plays in their favor. I like tackling. That was part 664 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: of what I wanted to tap into, especially in these conditions. 665 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: And similarly, can you make others miss if you're Pooka, 666 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: if your Cooper Cup, if you're Kien Williams, how many 667 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: yards after first contact can you get? Because I think 668 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: what it boils down to me is like average yards 669 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: to go on third down, which is another way of 670 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: dancing around picking the running game without saying the running game. 671 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: But it's like early down efficiency leading to third down. 672 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: If you're in third and five or more more times 673 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: than not, it's going to be a problem in this 674 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: game because of their defense, because of the weather, all 675 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: those sorts of things. If you're in third and short, 676 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: the whole playbook is open to you got a chance 677 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: to extend drives, play four down mode. And then similarly, 678 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: if Lamar is in third and short or fourth and 679 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: short tight red zone, that's a problem. Right. Like they've 680 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: rushed for over one hundred yards more than any team 681 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: in the National Football League in an active streak. They're 682 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: tied for the NFL lead and rushing touchdowns like there's 683 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: a reason for all this. You need to be able 684 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: to somehow get them off of their their timing, their rhythm, 685 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: their average down and distance put them in a position 686 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: they don't want to be in, especially if it's raining sideways. 687 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: Wow. 688 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: You ever face two linebackers like this, Smith and Queen, 689 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: two guys that can absolutely fly and mean they don't 690 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: miss tackles. 691 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because I face some really good ones. 692 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: Two I don't too. 693 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I tell him your Edginale story like this. 694 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. For the Rams defense, when you're facing Lamar, I mean, 695 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: your edge and alley guys have to be letter perfect. 696 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: Your edge guys have to keep him contained, no question, 697 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: keep him turning back towards the middle of the field 698 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: where you can get shots on him and your alley guy. 699 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: You have to keep it tight for the alley guy 700 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: coming down. If you give Lamar too much space, he's 701 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: gonna make you miss and away we go and the 702 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: game is over. But if you line him up, if 703 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: you keep him constricted and force him to take shots, 704 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: you'll slow him down. 705 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the alley player is probably gonna be 706 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: the most important, because that's gonna be the guy, like 707 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: your safety, that's gonna be the guy that has gonna 708 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: be able to either get him to slide early or 709 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 3: lay the hammer on Lamar right, because you got like 710 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: you said, you got to get him to stop. If 711 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: you watch a lot of the games that he struggled in, 712 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: even the Cincinnati game before Joe Burrow gets hurt, Zach 713 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: Wilson was just all over the place. And it was 714 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: because that edge guy set and that alley guy was 715 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 3: coming through and Lamar was cutting back and then goes 716 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: Zach Wilson right there, right, And so it's just again, 717 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: like I said, is what they did last week is 718 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: playing to your leverage. Understanding what your leverage is. If 719 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: you have contained, don't let him outside of you, right, 720 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: It's like little hit football. Don't let him hit the 721 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: sideline because if he hits the sideline, he's gone, right, Like, 722 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: so turn him back to the rest of the defense 723 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: and let the other guys take their shots out him. 724 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: I just had a vision. It's Jordan Fuller. Jordan Fuller 725 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: is gonna knock Lamar out. 726 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: How about Rams don't win that game in twenty twenty 727 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: one without Jordan Fuller's interception into the half. It helped 728 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: turn the tide. Well, this is one of those games 729 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: that you know, we're talking about the playoff push. If 730 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: you want to play in January, these are the types 731 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: of moments you hope to earn. Here's one in December 732 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: that's a playoff caliber matchup. Let's see if the Rams 733 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: are ready to level up for national champion and Super 734 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: Bowl champion DeMarco Farr and for hopefully state champion coach 735 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew by the next time we see him. 736 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: I'm JB. 737 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: Long. This has been Between the Horns, presented by your 738 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: Southern California Toyo to dealers, Rams and Ravens this weekend 739 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: in Baltimore.