Speaker 1: Cool media.
Speaker 2: All right, black people, let's get global. Ibraham, chuare politics, y'all? Yo?
Speaker 2: I just did the like serious announcer type vibes where
Speaker 2: you look right into the camera and say what you
Speaker 2: got to say.
Speaker 1: I've never done that. Wow.
Speaker 2: Before we get started on this week of black excellence
Speaker 2: and how the West hates it. If you're in the
Speaker 2: Los Angeles area, I will be performing at the La
Speaker 2: County Fair on May ninth, starting at six at the
Speaker 2: Fair Duh and Uh with full band thea Hoomie see
Speaker 2: Formie sche It's gonna be dope. Also, this Sunday is
Speaker 2: the Bastard Picnic or Bastard Barbecue with a scratch Bastard Uh.
Speaker 1: Probably. I think I can safely say.
Speaker 2: I know the world's greatest DJs because if you could
Speaker 2: hear the rasp in my voice from real ones last night,
Speaker 2: shout out y'all who pulled up hooked up with the
Speaker 2: Homies a DP sound. The Homie first one apparently is
Speaker 2: part of the Zeit Gang, who's part of the Bridge's Crew,
Speaker 2: which is a lot of like my history. This is
Speaker 2: very La stuff for the rest of y'all, essentially our
Speaker 2: hip hop scene and are like weeklies and monthlies where
Speaker 2: you would hear good DJs and stuff like that, Like
Speaker 2: I'm naming names from that, but anyway, he's part of
Speaker 2: the Zeit Gang. Anyway, I say all that to say
Speaker 2: I've been around the greatest DJs I can say in
Speaker 2: the world, beat Nuts, beat Junkies, Scratch Pickles, the greatest DJs.
Speaker 1: In the history at hip hop.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever actually teared up at how
Speaker 2: perfect a set was to when I heard Scratch Bastard
Speaker 2: play at this event called Boombox. Way off topic here,
Speaker 2: but I think this is important. Like I say, oftentimes
Speaker 2: a lot of these y ns, if you will, a
Speaker 2: lot of them, maybe not the young, young ones, but
Speaker 2: they kind of romanticized like the nineties gang in turf
Speaker 2: wars and violence from like the eras of oro ogs,
Speaker 2: whether it's the NWA era or like the Snoop Dogg era.
Speaker 2: And truthfully, I would not wish any of those times
Speaker 2: on my worst enemy. Just the heightened sense of danger
Speaker 2: at all times, like you never relaxed, You're just freaking amygdala,
Speaker 2: your lizard brain just always in fight or flight.
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't wish that on nobody.
Speaker 2: But what I would wish on y'all is our experience
Speaker 2: with art and culture. Man being able to go down
Speaker 2: to Dogtown see these skaters and empty pools and just
Speaker 2: culture being made. The scene that we kind of came
Speaker 2: out of with like open mics and dance floors. We
Speaker 2: were out doing participating in hip hop a good five
Speaker 2: nights a week. That experience. These are friends that I
Speaker 2: still have to this day. Like a lot of the
Speaker 2: leaders like Will I Am and Black Eyed Peas, they
Speaker 2: were just a part of our scene, you know, And
Speaker 2: just being in these moments, it's just I feel like
Speaker 2: the famous Juice is supernatural battle, the battle that Eminem
Speaker 2: got discovered on when he battled Otherwise at Elements at
Speaker 2: the l RA Theater. We just got to witness such
Speaker 2: dope culture.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's on some personal note, But now let's get
Speaker 2: into this Black Excellence thing. I'm gonna talk to you
Speaker 2: all about something that may not seem like it has
Speaker 2: anything to do with America until you see how deeply
Speaker 2: American this play will become. And then later on that
Speaker 2: this week when we do the Tapping episode, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about Ryan Coogler and essentially.
Speaker 1: The same premise.
Speaker 2: Here is how America feels about black excellence, really how
Speaker 2: the West feels about black caca. Now, as I say this,
Speaker 2: it is important to remember, and I think a great
Speaker 2: example of this would be Ditty, that the government has
Speaker 2: conspired to take down many amazing, strong Black men. This
Speaker 2: does not make them heroes or innocent. Every nigga in
Speaker 2: jail ain't Nelson Mandela. This is not y'all are not
Speaker 2: all political prisoners. It's just oftentimes when it comes to
Speaker 2: the Black community, and I think in brown also, but
Speaker 2: I'm speaking right now about the Black community, our whole diaspora,
Speaker 2: we're not allowed to have Our heroes. Can't be complicated.
Speaker 2: Our heroes can't have flaws and just be complicated humans
Speaker 2: who may have had good intentions or bad intentions or
Speaker 2: anything in between. So Diddy is not one of them.
Speaker 2: So y'all need to be up under the jail. And
Speaker 2: I'm saying this as an abolitionist, but I am saying
Speaker 2: when we start talking about our heroes, especially people who
Speaker 2: have fought for the liberation of black people everywhere, somehow
Speaker 2: or another, the West figures out of the way how
Speaker 2: to make this man a villain, and that villainry is
Speaker 2: supposed to undermine all of our views for them, y'all
Speaker 2: would call Black Panthers a terrorist organization. Y'all would, uh
Speaker 2: you know doctor King was a womanizer, which he was.
Speaker 2: Malcolm X was racist and hated like we just like
Speaker 2: we can't have no Fred Hampton, you know, the Black Messiah.
Speaker 1: We can't have nothing.
Speaker 2: Our heroes can't be complicated, whereas you allow people like
Speaker 2: you know, Tricky Dick. I mean, just pick a white man. Hell,
Speaker 2: Mike Wallas gets to keep his job. Are you talking
Speaker 2: about the man? No, he gets know this man don't
Speaker 2: get to keep his job. He gets transferred to a
Speaker 2: different department and in my opinion, a much more fun job.
Speaker 2: Mike Wallace, the hommy that was the Secretary of Defense
Speaker 2: and added the Atlantic Reporter to his group text owned
Speaker 2: signal no less. Rather than getting booted out immediately, they
Speaker 2: send him to be the UN ambassador. Boy, I tell you,
Speaker 2: rich white men just can't fail. Like it is impossible
Speaker 2: for y'all to fail. Y'all got no flaws. And of
Speaker 2: course the president himself, well you know he's rough around
Speaker 2: the edges were a criminal.
Speaker 1: But I digress.
Speaker 2: Black excellence independence, it scares the West, and I think
Speaker 2: it scares the West all the way back to the
Speaker 2: land grabs the scramble for Africa. The West needs us,
Speaker 2: and I'm saying us as part of the diaspora, it
Speaker 2: needs us to need them. We see it played out
Speaker 2: in America a little differently. But right now I want
Speaker 2: to talk about abroad and to get into this, I
Speaker 2: want to start with a little story which I may
Speaker 2: have said before. I think I did in the usaid
Speaker 2: stuff it's about. But if you didn't hear that episode,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna rewind you anyway because it's just it's just
Speaker 2: just follow me here on tour in South Africa in
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Shout out to Homie Greg Casselm and DJ
Speaker 2: Easy out there, one of my brothers from Zimbabwe and on.
Speaker 2: While we were on this road trip to Botswana to
Speaker 2: go perform out there at a church whose pastor is
Speaker 2: from Long Beach No Less, we were talking politics. You
Speaker 2: knew I was into that. We were talking about what
Speaker 2: he thought about Obama. I was asking him about like
Speaker 2: just the younger the younger generation activists in South Africa.
Speaker 2: There views on Matiba or Nelson Mandela and they a
Speaker 2: lot of times they feel like he didn't go far enough.
Speaker 2: They you know, kind of played nice. And then he
Speaker 2: asked me if I had a political hero, and for me,
Speaker 2: as an American as complicated, like I can't think of
Speaker 2: anybody like that. He was like, minus Momar Kadaffi, and
Speaker 2: I was like, record scratched. What Kadafi from Libya?
Speaker 1: And I think that was one of those moments. Oh.
Speaker 1: Then he talked about Cuba too.
Speaker 2: He was like, everybody I know has a Cuban doctor,
Speaker 2: that Cuba's been exporting doctors to Africa this entire time,
Speaker 2: and you just there's there's a very few times. Because
Speaker 2: I consider myself pretty well traveled, pretty well informed.
Speaker 1: My daughter, don't tell my mama.
Speaker 2: Because she's gonna be mad about this, But my daughter
Speaker 2: read my star chart, like the astrology type stuff. Don't
Speaker 2: tell my mama because then she's gonna show up at
Speaker 2: my house with the blessed oil try to pray it
Speaker 2: out my house. But one of the things that she
Speaker 2: said was on my star chart is a curiosity about
Speaker 2: a wide breadth of things. And I'm like, well, you
Speaker 2: know that scans. I consider myself very well informed, but
Speaker 2: every once in a while you have moments when you realize, oh,
Speaker 2: you are in a cultural bubble, you are in an
Speaker 2: informational sphere that informs the way you see the world.
Speaker 2: And nothing shakes me more than when I go to
Speaker 2: Africa and somebody says a sentence like that Cuba like
Speaker 2: or really like Cuba like, Yeah, you ever wonder why
Speaker 2: they smoke cigars so well and they don't be dying
Speaker 2: a lung cancer like we do. I was like, what
Speaker 2: my whole boyfriend, we had a Greg and Chantelle Denise.
Speaker 2: He told me they did their honeymoon in Cuba. I
Speaker 2: was like, you went to Cuba for your honeymoon? He goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's an American thing that y'all don't go there. The
Speaker 2: rest of us go there all the time. It's great.
Speaker 1: I just it's a like a dimension I just didn't
Speaker 1: know was real.
Speaker 2: So anyway, we did a bastard episode on momark A
Speaker 2: Daffi And I'm not here to scrub this guy's reputation.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying we are totally unaware until it's made
Speaker 2: clear just how curated our informational bubble is. This man
Speaker 2: said Kadafi was his hero and part of why he
Speaker 2: said that is because he's, like very few African leaders
Speaker 2: dare to not need the West to do what they
Speaker 2: gotta do to make sure that they can take care
Speaker 2: of themselves. One thing Momark he was doing is he
Speaker 2: was removing Libya from the World Bank. That was one
Speaker 2: thing he's working. Oh, he was working on a ghostand
Speaker 2: I remember hearing Lewis Farrakahn talk about it. And Lewis
Speaker 2: Farrakhan is a complicated figure here too, but he is
Speaker 2: an example of somebody that's out of our information bubble.
Speaker 2: The problem a lot of times, even with that understanding
Speaker 2: is in America is the fact that like some of
Speaker 2: the other information bubbles beat conspiracy theories where it's sound,
Speaker 2: where the earth all of a sudden flat, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So like you just it's almost like you don't want
Speaker 2: to poke your head out of your circle, just in
Speaker 2: case you run into an old QAnon gamer Gate head
Speaker 2: ass if you can you get these moments that make
Speaker 2: you say, oh, I was led to believe, not despite
Speaker 2: any evidence, but I was led to believe that Momar
Speaker 2: Kadafi was pure evil. And again the nick Cleansing's the
Speaker 2: things for which the murders that might have happened under
Speaker 2: his I'm not talking about I'm talking about a person
Speaker 2: look me in the face, a god fearing man from
Speaker 2: the continent essentially told me that you might have a
Speaker 2: story wrong, which is what I have to tell people
Speaker 2: all the time about.
Speaker 1: The Black panthers. You might have the story wrong. But
Speaker 1: what we know, what we understand is how I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get into this.
Speaker 2: Captain here about a small country called Burkino Fasso, Bikino Fasso,
Speaker 2: Captain Ibraham Tarrar, and why black excellence scares the West.
Speaker 1: Let's do this.
Speaker 2: When it comes to the full African diaspora of African Americans,
Speaker 2: black people out here, Caribbean black people, Indian black people.
Speaker 1: African black people.
Speaker 2: We often define ourselves by where the boat dropped us
Speaker 2: off rather than where we were picked up from.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That's why you look at a Cuban black man and
Speaker 2: be like, but I thought you was Latino, and he like,
Speaker 2: now that's where we just got dropped off. Where we
Speaker 2: came from is the same place you came from. The
Speaker 2: homiemerse Ariman Raus chilling backstage with one of his crip friends,
Speaker 2: and who's Cuban two?
Speaker 1: And he said.
Speaker 2: People used to always say, hey, but you Cuban while
Speaker 2: you look black, he go nigga cause I am black.
Speaker 1: You go down to Columbia, they.
Speaker 2: Black as hell, like we got dropped off all across
Speaker 2: the Americas. But with that, oftentimes, because this is just
Speaker 2: a product of imperialism and colonialism, we tend to identify
Speaker 2: with that group that we got off the boat from
Speaker 2: more than where we started from. We start allowing for
Speaker 2: a lot of divide and conquered type type beats to
Speaker 2: take apart our experience, some of which if once you
Speaker 2: start talking, you could kind of understand when you think
Speaker 2: about Caribbean black people Haitians, which is a great example
Speaker 2: of what I'm about to talk about too. Jamaican's how
Speaker 2: they threw off their slave owners. Like those were successful
Speaker 2: slave rebellions. We didn't do it in America. So in
Speaker 2: a lot of it, So sometimes Caribbean of black people
Speaker 2: kind of look down on us a little bit because
Speaker 2: we couldn't we couldn't do it, you know. In some ways,
Speaker 2: Africans oftentimes they get here because they've bought the American dream.
Speaker 2: But they get here and they start succeeding a lot
Speaker 2: of Nigerians especially down in Houston. Some of them end
Speaker 2: up poor, but some of them actually come from wealth.
Speaker 2: Like I know a lot of friends who are like
Speaker 2: it's like they say this to not be funny, but
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, our family is royalty. Back home, it's
Speaker 2: just there's just not a lot of opportunities. So we
Speaker 2: came out here, but like, yeah, back home, my grandparents
Speaker 2: have servants. Like it's because of the wealth disparage, and
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, yeah, we're sending money back to the
Speaker 2: compound back at home. So when they come here and
Speaker 2: they get it popping, you know, they they're thinking, how
Speaker 2: come black people don't know how to work? Like, why
Speaker 2: aren't you taking advantage of all of these opportunities you have?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So there's this misunderstanding of our experiences and how we
Speaker 2: interact with each other that oftentimes becomes a hammer or
Speaker 2: a crowbar that the forces that oppress us continue to
Speaker 2: use on us, and we kind of like sometimes take
Speaker 2: it out of their hands and put it on each other.
Speaker 2: But it seems like we're learning. It seems like we're
Speaker 2: learning that this old tired playbook. Now that the Internet
Speaker 2: exists and we can talk to other Africans and Africans
Speaker 2: have come here and they understand. A lot of times,
Speaker 2: I like, bro I met African people that get to
Speaker 2: America and they're like, this is the first time I
Speaker 2: even thought about the fact that I was black, because
Speaker 2: I live in a black world. Is no such thing
Speaker 2: as black, Like we just don't think about it. You
Speaker 2: realize I was black. I've always been my tribe. But
Speaker 2: you get here you understand like, oh, this is a
Speaker 2: different world.
Speaker 1: You feel me. But anyway, we're starting to learn.
Speaker 2: Let me teach y'all about a man, a revolutionary who
Speaker 2: right now is in the scopes of the West and
Speaker 2: why Captain Ibraham Tror. I can't say his name because
Speaker 2: it's French Tar and like French don't roll off my
Speaker 2: tongue like Spanish, I can speak Spanish.
Speaker 1: French is real hard for me.
Speaker 2: Why that man's name is French is because of the
Speaker 2: African lamp crab. He is from a small country that
Speaker 2: is in between.
Speaker 1: It's north of.
Speaker 2: Ghana and it's south of Mali, a small little country
Speaker 2: that I'm pretty sure you ain't no existed. You know
Speaker 2: how I know you didn't know it existed because I
Speaker 2: ain't know it existed. That's how bad are you to listen?
Speaker 2: That's this space right here, and how big the world is.
Speaker 2: He became the ifso facto leader of Bukina Fasso in
Speaker 2: September of twenty twenty two, but that was because this
Speaker 2: was the second military coup that had happened in seven months.
Speaker 2: When he came into power, he took out the.
Speaker 1: Dude that.
Speaker 2: Led the last coup, who he usuly actually worked for,
Speaker 2: named Paul Henry Demba.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: He led the coop in January of twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: right toppling the former president who was like just a regular,
Speaker 2: regular civilian president named Kabori. Kabor Please please forgive me
Speaker 2: for my butchering a y'all's African and French nag. But
Speaker 2: the reason why he said he had to remove this
Speaker 2: last military coup guy was because you wasn't doing nothing
Speaker 2: to stop any of the Jihadis and the extremists that
Speaker 2: have essentially taken apart our country. What does any of
Speaker 2: this have to do with America, Well, let me tell
Speaker 2: you what happened.
Speaker 1: A few weeks ago.
Speaker 2: General Michael Langley, he's the head of the US military
Speaker 2: in Africa, said that this man during a US Senate
Speaker 2: hearing Captain Ibraham Charrar was stealing gold and money from
Speaker 2: his people to fatten his pockets so he can stay
Speaker 2: in power. So for some reason, this American general, in
Speaker 2: a discussion about USAID and about soft power that happens
Speaker 2: in foreign countries. We remember again we talked about USAID
Speaker 2: somehow or another, he put this man in this guy's scope,
Speaker 2: and he told him that he was corrupt and that
Speaker 2: he's stealing money from his own people. Now, where have
Speaker 2: we heard that before? And why would you say that
Speaker 2: about him? About this tiny again country that none of
Speaker 2: y'all ever heard of. I could say that for a fact,
Speaker 2: unless you're from here, you from there, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: none of y'all are. I mean, unless you Afro studies
Speaker 2: majors and as in like African West African studies made
Speaker 2: you probably never heard of this thing. Maybe you're from
Speaker 2: Nigeria or Benin so you kind of knew this, but
Speaker 2: or maybe you tapped into the diaspora. But I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure this man has not crime across your feed until
Speaker 2: this moment. According to the AP, I'm gonna read this
Speaker 2: earlier this month, General Michael Lanley, the head of US
Speaker 2: military in Africa accused Tararar during a US debate semit
Speaker 2: it Us during a US Senate committee hearing of using
Speaker 2: Bikino Fossil's gold reserves to benefit the junta at the
Speaker 2: expense of the population. Right, and then crowds and crowds
Speaker 2: and crowds, massive crowds of protests started happening in Bikino FOSSi,
Speaker 2: but in a lot of ways across the African diaspora
Speaker 2: in support of Captain Ibraham. Why if he's so corrupt
Speaker 2: is what has bewitched all these people for them to
Speaker 2: not know something that the American military knows, and why
Speaker 2: does the American military even care? Crowds of protesters gathered
Speaker 2: in the Place of Revolution in Bikina Fosso's capital on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: chanting long Live Captain Charrar, with some holding banners showing
Speaker 2: a photo of General Langley with the word slave written
Speaker 2: over his head in red marker, essentially they calling him
Speaker 2: a house nigga, and others wave Burkina Fosso and Russian flags,
Speaker 2: which we'll talk about in a minute, a close ally
Speaker 2: to the African country, which is probably a hint as
Speaker 2: to why we started hating on this man, oh Cebe Johnson,
Speaker 2: he's a musician who came to the protests, said he's
Speaker 2: not surprised that the accusations launched by Lang because watch this.
Speaker 2: Colin Powell lied, Iraq was destroyed, Barack Obama lied, Gaddafi
Speaker 2: was killed. But this time the lies won't affect us.
Speaker 2: That's why we tell them we're not against them, but
Speaker 2: we are against the preditation and economic slavery. Now I
Speaker 2: want you to key on that word economic slavery and preditation,
Speaker 2: and you tell me why America after this man.
Speaker 1: So let's back up.
Speaker 2: So this young man born in nineteen eighty eight, right,
Speaker 2: he graduated valedictorian from his college, and he studied geology
Speaker 2: and went into the military.
Speaker 1: Went into the military later.
Speaker 2: He joined the military in two thousand and nine, graduated
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, and was enjoined the artillery. But he
Speaker 2: ain't really really get hot right rocking his little red
Speaker 2: beret that throws back to their old There there was
Speaker 2: a revolutionary in the eighties named Tomas, which I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna talk too much time about this, but he's he's
Speaker 2: a essentially like almost like the second Coming.
Speaker 1: Like a like a spass I type character. Without the
Speaker 1: religion around it.
Speaker 2: But he really got hot in twenty fourteen when he
Speaker 2: went to Mali for a UN peacekeeping program called Manusa
Speaker 2: and he fought against Jihadja's jihadis again in ethnic insurgents.
Speaker 2: Now back to our informational hole we come into. You
Speaker 2: hear the term jihadis, you hear the term ethnic insurgents,
Speaker 2: and you probably think of like a nineties trope, right,
Speaker 2: But what we need to know and need to remember
Speaker 2: is that these tropes often come out of prejudice and
Speaker 2: are way more simplified than they need to be. It's complicated.
Speaker 2: Or when you hear terms like ethnic insurgencies like on
Speaker 2: if you lean more progressive in the left, you think
Speaker 2: of these as like noble freedom fighting savages. But they're
Speaker 2: both racists and incomplete tropes.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, here's the thing
Speaker 2: you wasn't outside, You wasn't in Africa. Like the people
Speaker 2: he talking about is like the Boko Harum like type beat.
Speaker 1: Right. You remember them.
Speaker 2: Dudes that captured the girls from the Little Girls school.
Speaker 2: It held them hostage. You remember them. When we say jihadis,
Speaker 2: we talk about like offshoot to al Qaeda, Right, We say,
Speaker 2: ethnic insurgencies. These are the people that are fighting back,
Speaker 2: like the street, the street people fighting back. In a
Speaker 2: lot of times, the ethnic insurgencies are harkening back to
Speaker 2: before these random borders were drawn by white people. We've
Speaker 2: been feuding with these people anyway, and this is how
Speaker 2: we can retain retain power because there's only so many
Speaker 2: finite amount of resource and fools get brutal, fools get
Speaker 2: real brutal out there. There's discussions around should Africans accept
Speaker 2: now now that obviously so many years later, should we
Speaker 2: accept these identities, these these national borders that were given
Speaker 2: to them by Europe, Like what do you mean Ghanaian,
Speaker 2: the old Ghana, Ma, Ghana, Mali, and Songhai. Like the
Speaker 2: Ghana Empire is not literally where the nation state of
Speaker 2: Ghana is, this is named after it. There's a question
Speaker 2: as to like why don't we go back to our
Speaker 2: ethnic identities. I mean, it'd be the same question of
Speaker 2: like why do any of us identify as being from California,
Speaker 2: you know, or the state that you're from. Those borders
Speaker 2: are made up. So there's a discussion where it's like, look, dude,
Speaker 2: it is what it is. We are accepting our africanness,
Speaker 2: and it's been so many generations and identities are malleable.
Speaker 2: You feel me like you might be a part of
Speaker 2: this tribe, but if you grew up in the city,
Speaker 2: you really don't have much connection. Like there's an ancestry, right,
Speaker 2: just like I found my ancestry is Ethiopian. But for
Speaker 2: me to run around here talk about what's habashah like
Speaker 2: I would be a poser. That's not really who I am.
Speaker 2: It's my lineage. I wish it's just not true. I
Speaker 2: wish I was at again. I am of African descent.
Speaker 2: I am of the diaspora. So these ethnic insurgencies and
Speaker 2: these jahadas anyway, the violence that these groups like perpetrate
Speaker 2: on what is seeming their own people. It's an unbridled
Speaker 2: violence that, like I just there's not enough words in
Speaker 2: the English language for me to get your brain around
Speaker 2: the reasoning for their violence. Can be as complicated or
Speaker 2: as simple as you might guess, but it's there. He
Speaker 2: was a part of the regular degulars. People say that
Speaker 2: he's always been charismatic, but he's but he quiet. He's
Speaker 2: just a good soldier. He went out there and he
Speaker 2: fought against jahadas and when you fight against people that
Speaker 2: are trying to take away your freedoms, you become a hero.
Speaker 2: It just is what it is. So he served a
Speaker 2: part called the three border area. It's mally N and
Speaker 2: Rikino Fasso like. And there's there's a point if you again,
Speaker 2: if you're looking at the map of Africa, there's a
Speaker 2: point where all three of these countries touch.
Speaker 1: Now you may remember if you were paying attention.
Speaker 2: Nizer has been in the news for the last two
Speaker 2: years because of their issues with Jihadis.
Speaker 1: It's real over there now.
Speaker 2: When we talk about Jihadis, I am not talking about Islam.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about these particular just like when I talk
Speaker 2: just like when somebody else talk about Christian. I don't
Speaker 2: mean Trump had asked like, I ain't talking about dim blowhards.
Speaker 2: I'll talk about Mamma Winian now. So you know that
Speaker 2: there's a difference, right. I just want to make sure
Speaker 2: that that's being clear. These people are violent Ryan virus,
Speaker 2: these particular groups that he's like pushing against, and he
Speaker 2: fought under he was made a captain in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: when he fought under or under the leadership of the
Speaker 2: guy Paul Henry Domiba, who ended up running the last coup,
Speaker 2: so as he saw his country actually really being overtaken
Speaker 2: by UH Jihadis, like town by town, he was out
Speaker 2: there liberating, freeing these towns. Now, let's pause here and
Speaker 2: talk about, like how anybody gets recruited in any of
Speaker 2: these things anyway. Well, in our network, you got shows
Speaker 2: like Weird Little Guys, right, and even a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff that they would talk about in various you know,
Speaker 2: bastards episodes of how people get on boarder to this.
Speaker 2: A lot of this has to do a lack of
Speaker 2: resources and a lack of representation and a lack of opportunity.
Speaker 2: A lot of times when you hear people talk about
Speaker 2: how they join white supremacist movements, it's not so much
Speaker 2: that they had any real issue with any other people.
Speaker 2: They just kind of felt like they were victims, that
Speaker 2: there is in fact a white genocide, that we are
Speaker 2: being a race from the earth, that no one accepts
Speaker 2: the pain that we're going through. And then you spend
Speaker 2: this story and it becomes easy enough to get recruited
Speaker 2: into because you start believing this story. The same thing
Speaker 2: happens a lot of times with like Muslim extremists or jihadis.
Speaker 1: It's like you start with.
Speaker 2: This kernel of truth about the way that the West
Speaker 2: feels about Arab nations, Nigga you right, and the opportunities
Speaker 2: that just are not for you, and that it seems
Speaker 2: that when you just play by the rule, nothing ever
Speaker 2: works for you. Lonely, you can't get no girl, these
Speaker 2: promises of you know, success and wealth. This this paradise
Speaker 2: that should be yours is not here, So you need
Speaker 2: to go get it. These people have been brainwashed by
Speaker 2: the West. You need to go get yours. Does that
Speaker 2: sound familiar? Now, these groups that they join, they don't
Speaker 2: be as just like your white supremacist group. They don't
Speaker 2: be as revolutionary as they sell themselves. They just be
Speaker 2: mafia's right. They they're kidnapping, they're doing extortion. They just
Speaker 2: be they and they at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: they just be gangs extorting. They're making money. They're stealing
Speaker 2: resources from the government. You know when government aid comes
Speaker 2: into these foreign cities, they just stealing them. Right, you
Speaker 2: try to build a business, you gotta run your you
Speaker 2: gotta run twenty percent of your business. They're kidnapping and
Speaker 2: making people pay like it's to mafia. They just call
Speaker 2: themselves Jahadis. You know what I'm saying. They say they're
Speaker 2: doing this holy war, and some of them might be
Speaker 2: true believers, but how they move it and the government
Speaker 2: can't do shit. By the year, by twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: two million people were displaced and fifty percent of their
Speaker 2: country fifty half face starvation. Can you I don't know
Speaker 2: if you can get your brain around that half of
Speaker 2: America might start That's the situation they in. And if
Speaker 2: you imagine that, imagine how frustrated we are with our presidents.
Speaker 2: Now imagine that, But fifty percent of us was starving.
Speaker 2: Don't you think some don't you think a coop would happen.
Speaker 2: And while this is happening, gangs are just roving our street,
Speaker 2: kidnapping and abstorting your teachers, explorting your teachers. This I mean,
Speaker 2: somebody go come in here, takeout like nigga. You don't
Speaker 2: know what you're doing. Get this to me. So by
Speaker 2: January twenty twenty two, a military coup led by Paul
Speaker 2: Henry Demba overthrew the civilian government. But the problem was
Speaker 2: they still couldn't stop these jihattis like it just for
Speaker 2: seven months they was trying to get this thing cracking,
Speaker 2: trying to get this thing.
Speaker 1: Did this thing going on?
Speaker 2: I remember, our boy Ibraham is a captain in this
Speaker 2: army that's supposed to be leading the charge in taking
Speaker 2: down these jahattis. Now he's still in the streets. He's
Speaker 2: still outside, he's still in the front line, still in
Speaker 2: the trenches. Paul Henry, he he up at the capitol.
Speaker 2: He a bureaucrat. Now he out there sitting all that
Speaker 2: air conditioner. So the attacks keep coming and it keeps
Speaker 2: getting worse, and the people out there doing the fighting, Ibraham,
Speaker 2: and they're not getting they're not getting paid, they're not
Speaker 2: getting any money. And Ibraham, who felt like he had
Speaker 2: a good rapport with Paul Henry, was trying to get
Speaker 2: these meetings with him and being like, Yo, the hummies
Speaker 2: is feeling we're starting to feel a way about how
Speaker 2: this is working. We outside dying, We in this African heat,
Speaker 2: You up here in this air conditioner, We out here fighting.
Speaker 2: He's fight without no resources, and we're not getting paid.
Speaker 2: We can't keep doing this. And then the straw that
Speaker 2: broke the camel's back was two things happened. There was
Speaker 2: an attack on this one hundred and fifty truck convoy
Speaker 2: that was on its way to these captured starving villages
Speaker 2: on the outskirts that the military was leading with all
Speaker 2: the aid, food resources, all the stuff that the citizens
Speaker 2: of Bikino Fossil needed. It got attacked by jihadis. Ten
Speaker 2: civilians were killed and twenty seven soldiers were killed. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: this fool was up in the UN, This fool Paul
Speaker 2: was up at the ill at the UN telling everybody
Speaker 2: out there that we are really making moves, were really
Speaker 2: making process right folks back home was like, Nah, fam,
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? It's gotten worse. Bruh, that's
Speaker 2: it because I'm taking his mug over. He tried to
Speaker 2: meet with him before he got to that point too,
Speaker 2: and the boy just and and boy boy kept giving
Speaker 2: him the ulkie dock, like, why are you not like
Speaker 2: what our situation is dire out here?
Speaker 1: My boy?
Speaker 2: Now check this out. None of this has got to
Speaker 2: do with America right now. But we're about to see
Speaker 2: what happened from here. So this man takes over another
Speaker 2: military coup, steps in charge. And remember he's already loved.
Speaker 2: He's gentle, he's like he's like the type of he's
Speaker 2: the type of alpha male that a lot of you like,
Speaker 2: little dumbass manosphere dudes wish you were. He's gentle, he's
Speaker 2: soft spoken, he smiles well, but he's a murderer, and
Speaker 2: he about that life and he's and he about his people,
Speaker 2: and he take care of his family. He take care
Speaker 2: of his folk. His boys love him, his boys trust him.
Speaker 2: And he'll put a hole through your chest if he
Speaker 2: needs to. But he doesn't need to be aggressive. He's smart.
Speaker 1: And if people love.
Speaker 2: Him, so he gets in power and he gets busy.
Speaker 2: His first step, we need to kick out France, my nigga,
Speaker 2: what you mean kick out France? Well, bikino fasso. Since
Speaker 2: the eighteen hundreds, all the way up until no, the
Speaker 2: seventeen hundreds, all the way up until nineteen sixty, was
Speaker 2: just a colony of France. Now, once they finally handed
Speaker 2: over leadership to the African leaders, that's a quote un
Speaker 2: quote un quote their liberation, there was still a military
Speaker 2: outpost there.
Speaker 1: All them niggas don't leave. White boys, ain't leave you.
Speaker 2: The reason why half they names a French is because
Speaker 2: this is just this was just a French colony. I've
Speaker 2: been to Cameroon, I've been to French Africa. The French
Speaker 2: influence on this part of Africa is very thick. Niger,
Speaker 2: you mean Niger, it's French. They didn't really leave South Africa.
Speaker 2: It's Dutch because they didn't really leave, right. So he
Speaker 2: start to get moving, but before he get moving, he
Speaker 2: got to deal with this dude that they just put out.
Speaker 1: The dude that they just put out. This this was real.
Speaker 2: This The move that made him the people's champ was
Speaker 2: when the other dude got kicked out, Paul Henry. It
Speaker 2: was word got back to Captain Ebraham that he was
Speaker 2: hiding at the French consulate. So he tell the people like,
Speaker 2: oh word, you know your big bad leader that was
Speaker 2: here before. He over there hiding with the white boys.
Speaker 2: You know, these white people been taking you know, a
Speaker 2: dog on tariffs and indulgences from your whole people. The
Speaker 2: reason why y'all can't succeed these white men that still
Speaker 2: got armies out here. He hiding over there with them.
Speaker 2: The people was like, oh, that's it, because you're gonna
Speaker 2: run over there with the white boys. They burnt down
Speaker 2: that French consulate. They was like, we tired, we tied
Speaker 2: of this French rule. You listen. More of the story
Speaker 2: is no one likes colonizers. I just I don't know
Speaker 2: why no one likes colonizers. Right, So he brought the heat.
Speaker 2: He brought the heat to France, right, but he was
Speaker 2: like listen in twenty twenty three, in early twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: he told France like, look, I'm gonna give y'all a
Speaker 2: month to get yall to get your army out of here, okay, And.
Speaker 1: They left carefully. Was like it worked.
Speaker 2: He kicked him out right, We're gonna take care of ourselves.
Speaker 1: We're gonna figure out what he need to do. You
Speaker 1: know what this man did.
Speaker 2: This man brought the food supplies, the food growth, the
Speaker 2: produce growth. See, they make a lot of rights, but
Speaker 2: all of this stuff gets exported everywhere else in the world.
Speaker 2: He said, you know what, I'm gonna not let y'all
Speaker 2: export no more. We need to keep our food here.
Speaker 2: You know, the gold, because Africa is just covered in
Speaker 2: gold and other precious minerals, all of just come out
Speaker 2: the water all over. He said, you know what, listen,
Speaker 2: these gold refinery places, we're gonna nationalize them. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: bring them under here. So that we can make our
Speaker 2: own money, right, And I'm gonna not approve any of
Speaker 2: y'all licenses to export goal anywhere else. If you are
Speaker 2: from somewhere else and you want to open a gold
Speaker 2: refinery here, I'm gonna shut it down. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: give you no license to open a goal refinery here else.
Speaker 2: We need to start taking care of ourselves. He looked
Speaker 2: at the IMF and he said, I know y'all give
Speaker 2: out loans for countries to start, they start, they to
Speaker 2: get themselves off their feet. I don't want your money.
Speaker 2: He looked at the World Bank and he said, I
Speaker 2: don't want y'all money. We literally make gold here. I
Speaker 2: don't need your money. And that my friend was his
Speaker 2: Ai Tupac. This is what got him in the scopes
Speaker 2: of our country. This man told the World Bank, do
Speaker 2: you know what money's in the World Bank?
Speaker 1: Do you know what currency?
Speaker 2: If you if you listening to the audio medium, I
Speaker 2: just raised my eyebrows because that's a code for you
Speaker 2: to know that it's the US dollar.
Speaker 1: Do you know who run the IMF?
Speaker 2: Oh, these are Western financial institutions. And since we can
Speaker 2: do what the hell we want to do, we can
Speaker 2: partner with who the hell we want to partner with?
Speaker 2: And your beef with them people is not my beef.
Speaker 2: He talked to Vladimir Putin. Y'all may or may not know,
Speaker 2: but China and Russia been making moves in Africa for
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 1: There's still a beef.
Speaker 2: There's still discussions among African activists out there now about
Speaker 2: should we keep accepting China's money. They're building roads, they
Speaker 2: building airports, and a lot of some African activists are like, listen,
Speaker 2: this is just the new West. They're just gonna do
Speaker 2: what they did to us. It's gonna be the same thing.
Speaker 2: It's just it's the yen now instead of the US dollar.
Speaker 2: It ain't no different. We're still gonna be a slave
Speaker 2: to another country. Other people is like, well, listen, maybe
Speaker 2: we can learn the lessons from there, and now that
Speaker 2: we understand that what we bring to the table, maybe
Speaker 2: we have a little better leverage now because I think
Speaker 2: we are a long way from being able to actually
Speaker 2: stand on our own two feet. So maybe we should
Speaker 2: accept a little help, a little assistance. But either way,
Speaker 2: United States, Europe, it's none of your business.
Speaker 1: It's what Abraham is saying.
Speaker 2: And America don't like that. America don't like you talking
Speaker 2: to Russia, which is so weird to me because well
Speaker 2: they might not have had you not ended usai D.
Speaker 2: But you know, racist gone racist.
Speaker 1: This brother flew up to.
Speaker 2: Russia for his version of usai DU summit with a
Speaker 2: bunch of different African leaders and he made these statements quote,
Speaker 2: the problem is seeing African heads of state who bring
Speaker 2: nothing to the people who are struggling, singing the same
Speaker 2: song as the imperialists who call us militia.
Speaker 1: Do you hear that?
Speaker 2: You in the you in the wrong information cycle? He
Speaker 2: was like, the imperialists call us militia. You you calling
Speaker 2: your you're calling us militia as derogatory, that somehow or another,
Speaker 2: our fight for self governments, governance to throw off our
Speaker 2: imperial leaders is somehow less than we're we're we're we're
Speaker 2: not a government, We're just a militia.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's derogatory, right, it's the meaning.
Speaker 2: But he says, but the problem with the rest of
Speaker 2: you African leaders is well, you not doing nothing for
Speaker 2: your people neither, how are you any different?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: As a result, they end up referring to us as
Speaker 2: people who don't respect human rights. Like he said, every
Speaker 2: nigga jail, like I said earlier, every nigga jail ain't
Speaker 2: Nelson Mandela, every every African leader who tries to talk
Speaker 2: that talk about self governance and independence. You not doing
Speaker 2: nothing for your people. How are you any different? That's
Speaker 2: why the world don't think you respect human rights.
Speaker 1: You ain't no different. I'm different. And it's true. Starvation
Speaker 1: levels have dropped.
Speaker 2: They're making so much money already, he said. We African
Speaker 2: heads of state must stop acting like check this out
Speaker 2: the marionettes who dance each time the imperialists pull our strings.
Speaker 2: My Mirraga talking that talk. He said this yesterday in
Speaker 2: July twenty seven. This was last year President Vladimir Putin
Speaker 2: announced that free grain would be shipped to Africa. Now
Speaker 2: we covered this before. They've been senting grain to Africa.
Speaker 2: Free gain will be shipped to Africa. This is pleasing
Speaker 2: and we say thank you for this. However, this is
Speaker 2: also a message to our African heads of state at
Speaker 2: the next forum. We must not come here without having
Speaker 2: any insured self sufficiency of the food supply for our people.
Speaker 2: We must learn from the experience of those who succeeded
Speaker 2: at achieving this. I thank you very much for your grain.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Now, if you say free, you better
Speaker 2: mean free, because if not, you could keep it because
Speaker 2: I don't know if you notice, we're in Africa.
Speaker 1: We can grow everything.
Speaker 2: There's diamonds in the dirt, and for too long we've
Speaker 2: just let y'all come over here with strings attached. I'll
Speaker 2: give you grain if you give us diamonds. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, there's less grain and a lot of diamonds
Speaker 2: given all of a sudden. We in these civil wars,
Speaker 2: and we consider the savages, and we the militias, we
Speaker 2: the insurgencies. Well, we just trying to get these imperials
Speaker 2: out here because we just dance monkey dance every time
Speaker 2: y'all come in here. Nah, fam, I'm done dancing for y'all.
Speaker 2: You can help me, that's great, but I'm done dancing
Speaker 2: for y'all. You can't talk like that in front of
Speaker 2: these white people. Bruh's brought change. Listen, do you know
Speaker 2: what he's doing. This man got plans for a nuclear
Speaker 2: power plant. Do you know that they're making electric cars.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this again, this African country. You never
Speaker 2: heard of is making electric cars. Y'all are in the
Speaker 2: wrong informational pipeine for you to understand what's actually happening
Speaker 2: in Africa.
Speaker 1: Now, it ain't all roses because there was a there
Speaker 1: was a coup.
Speaker 2: There was a coup attempt, and this is where America, Americas,
Speaker 2: the belief of that coup attempt was put together by
Speaker 2: what they believe was Western forces. I'm giggling because we've
Speaker 2: done this before. We've done it with Moza Deck. We
Speaker 2: do this all the time. We destabilize countries all the time,
Speaker 2: and then we take someone who is a hero to
Speaker 2: their people and we call them dictators. Now, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, there's a heightened surveillance state out there right.
Speaker 2: There is accusations of human ghosts, gross crimes against humanity,
Speaker 2: of course there are. But don't it seem so convenient
Speaker 2: that the person that said you could keep your money
Speaker 2: and I'm a tap in with who I want to
Speaker 2: tap in with, and it's not your business anyway. The
Speaker 2: person that said you can't just keep taking our goal
Speaker 2: like this, that maybe we don't need your money, that
Speaker 2: maybe we can build our own nuclear plans, Maybe I
Speaker 2: don't need American cars maybe we can make our own
Speaker 2: and ours won't need gas.
Speaker 1: The heat of dictator.
Speaker 2: Ica don't like black excellence, to which I say, we
Speaker 2: should keep being excellent.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what's going on. There might be problems
Speaker 1: with that man.
Speaker 2: We don't know that, but we also know that's not
Speaker 2: our business anyway.
Speaker 1: We seem to only care when you mess with our money.
Speaker 1: Good politics, y'all.
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