WEBVTT - Episode 148 w/ Timbaland 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.120 And his Drink Chance, motherfucking podcast. Mason, he's a legendary 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.599 queen's rapper. He's agreed, is your boy in o R. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.680 He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up his dj e FN. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.200 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:30.360 players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:34.200 one sorts for drunk fat drink chans motherfucking is New year' 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.520 z that it's time for drink Chance, drink up, mother mother. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:46.960 Wouldn't gonna be hoping you with the super boy in 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.360 o R. What up his dj e F and his 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:56.520 Drink Chance motherfucker Happy Hour makes up? And I don't 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:01.320 know if you know, but me introduced uh interviewing producers. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.000 It's probably one of my favorite things to do is 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.320 because the the producers not only have the story of 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.320 the song, they have the story to make it in 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.319 the song. So if you guys don't know who I'm 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.640 talking about right now, when you think of Mrs Elliott, 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.240 you think of a Leah, you think a genuine wine, 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.080 you think of there's so many different artists who took 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.920 artists and made them great. From the sounds of his stay, 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.240 I heard that he used to make beat Stu beatbox. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.960 I heard he he he has so many people's careers 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.880 in his hands. He's come from Virginia. He has stayed 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.920 in this time relevant well over twenty years well and 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.080 been kicking people's ass and staying here doing what the 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:42.720 funk he gotta do. In case you don't know who 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.880 the funk I'm talking about, we're talking about Timberland make 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:54.160 something that now we want to we wanna this is 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.400 a hip hop historic show, so we want to take 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:00.200 it from the very like beginning by how how did 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.240 you get your start? Because I heard somewhere that you 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.680 was a beatbox at first, prior to you actually making beats, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.720 So how did you even start beatboxing? Like, you know, 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.640 like I think it was. It was a contest. It 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.560 was back in Virginia, just just um place called Stars 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.440 I can remember, and I was a beatboxing. I always 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.520 thought it was, you know, okay, but then it's like 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.720 my main passion back then was djan And how I 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:31.160 got into making beats is the music. You know, like 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.240 every every season you got a drought season where it's 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.840 like it's just the music you ain't like, you ain't feeling. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.320 So I'm like, let me just make a beat. And 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.120 then my mom brought this cassio keyboard, the only extapp 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.080 for one second, let me try to make it a 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.799 beat so I can blend my records too, you know 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.079 what I'm saying. So you have to you have to 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.680 be very creative back then, and were already severing your 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.200 beatboxing at that point. I didn't sapping my box. You 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.560 started doing that. I just had my beat box too. 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.399 I got introduced to a studio, you know what I'm saying, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.320 And then, you know, really like when I got induce 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:05.000 to a sampler that can sample longer than the second. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.200 So then it got to the point where I got 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:12.240 a sh EPs something like that, a keyboard with sample 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.399 up to sixteen seconds. So that kind of gave me 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:19.000 for one second. Sixteen second back then was like sixteen minutes. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.400 So I just took what I had and I was 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.880 just passionate about sounds. I love noise. Now. Now now 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:30.000 we we recually have Molly mare here, right, and Molly 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:34.079 mall alluded to um kind of making the new Jack swing. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.720 Yeah he didn't, so he kind of And it made 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:42.320 me think of Telly Riley immediately. Riley's relationship to Virginia. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:44.600 What do you think when you hear a person like 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.040 Marty mar said that he might have been the first 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.640 person to start New Jackson. I kind of I would 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:55.080 say he's correct. No way, I would say he's almost correct, 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.720 because when you listen to le Me, like all the 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.840 big Daddy cane, all the all and all stuff that 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.080 he did, he had big that he king had. He 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.080 gave a lot of different bounces, like what is a raw? Raw? 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:08.839 Was kind of like the introduction to the New jack 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.600 swing sound, and he Teddy just took it and enhanced 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.920 it and modified it more. But he kind of introduced 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:21.119 that because Teddy did produce the show with Douggy Fresh 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:34.480 and yeah yeah, so so now now what does Telly 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.800 Ronny meaning Virginia? Because I guess that was like a 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.560 man's more. But what did he mean to New York? 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.919 He just moved to Virginia from New York, So it 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.359 was almost like some New jack city and you know, 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.960 Brown moving into jail, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.600 but he was from New York, so it was like 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.479 Virginia was like we're getting this big time producer from 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:57.000 New York. Like we was more excited about that because 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.440 he was already already like I mean, he was already yeah, 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.480 because like I thought, you might have knew him from 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.359 New York like new from Guy days like that he 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.080 was in New York, so like we knew but I 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.520 guess I guess New York wasn't like on it like 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.040 but we we knew him Virginia like who because it 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.960 was guy It was Teddy like he was coming to Virginia. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.080 So I was like, whoa, where were those dudes from 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.920 Rex Rex and effects from They was from New York, 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:30.640 from New York, Virginia. They just they just move, They 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:35.039 just moved to uh oh man. I definitely didn't know 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.240 that you'll have any animosity towards New York dudes moving there. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.839 It was almost like we did have a little animal 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.360 it was. It was it was exciting, you know what 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.640 I'm saying, because we're Commonwealth and getting somebody from the 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.599 boys getting locked up in media up. It was cool. Yeah, 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.880 it won't on jealousy. Back it was more like that's 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.880 Teddy Rock, I guess what people do today, but in 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.880 a different form back then. Did you did you be 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:08.880 influenced by the New Jack Swing? I think I wasn't 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.039 I think. I wasn't influenced by the swing. I was 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:15.960 influenced by the sonics of the swing, meaning the sound 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:20.479 high sounded so crisp, Like, how did he make was 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:25.040 once a James Brown bounce from Funky Drummer? Did you 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.760 get that's like Funky Drummer that he took it and 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:32.080 enhanced it and made it more moderate. So it's let's 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.200 be clear, because not everybody knows the definition of what 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.480 new Jack swing was real? What is it to you? 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:43.120 What made it new Jack swing? The swing? That's why 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:44.760 he had to say, I don't know why they put 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.960 new Jack to give it a sling, I think, but 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.200 it was a swing. When James Brown did Funky Drummer, 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.040 that was a swing. That's why everything about it when 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.720 you go back into the Funky Drummer, James Brown will 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.880 do nothing on that was the timing of it was 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.240 a different like a he fu. He was just he 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:07.360 was hitting the pockets to make people, to make the origin, 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.320 to make the masses get it. So he didn't he 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.480 left me think about it, go back into the um 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.600 Funky Drummer. He I just could imagine them too in 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.520 the studio right and it's like he walked into a 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.800 little bobble. I'm just thinking like James Brown, So the 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:31.840 studio and the drum, that's all he do on the 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:37.840 record is athlete. So when you think about music today, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.080 is like it's all about that feeling and that that 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.520 swing back then was like a new swing to make him. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.200 They made him do that. So when you talk about uh, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.600 Eddy Rowley, I don't know Jake so he they found 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.160 how to write in those pockets of that swing. So 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.440 that was like a that was the fastest swing the 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:03.080 most songs from like Boom Boom that was. So it's 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.160 like that's making the how do you make a person 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.560 do this without being corny? You know what I'm saying. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.120 So that's a that's like a whole different swing. Now 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.160 we have pushed your tea on here and push your 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.280 tea told us that you for around and no Malice 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:21.320 went to the same school seeing that school to no, 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.760 she was from a noto like another town Portsmouth. Okay, 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.200 so hold on, I just need to understand this school. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.280 And when you're in the same class, it was like, 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.120 you know, it's just I think it's just like anything 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.600 up today. Now would I look back and I look 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.960 at music up today, I'm like, man, it's the same way, 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.719 and you don't see it until you get older, and 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.760 you'll be like, it's no different. You know, God put 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.600 people together with the same kind of brilliant minds, and 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.280 you know you connect. You know, it's like y'all too connected. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.480 He he from you from Miami, and people are gonna 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.760 be like, how it's gonna be some other kids like 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.560 how to free you be like, damn, it was just 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.200 It's just it's just supposed to be and for Real 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.200 was always for real. If I when I look at 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.839 for Real, it's nothing, nothing to change about him from 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:12.640 what I know. So how did you meet Missy? How 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.800 did how did Missy? Actually a friend of mine introduced 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.120 When the Missy told Missy that I needed that she 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.400 needed to meet me, and Missy came to my house 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.559 and start doing music, You're like, oh man, he was artist. No, 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.800 I was just doing beats and she she didn't want that. 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.760 I was just doing music and she's like, he made 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.120 dope beats. And I was like when she introduced me 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.559 to singing over hip hop or hip hop beats, and 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.360 when she was singing, I'm like, I ain't never heard 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.760 that before, Like I never heard melodies over the music 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.320 I was making. And she introduced my ears to somebody 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:48.080 new candy you know before you heard? Yeah, she she 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.760 the one like it was because I heard she introduced 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.000 me to singing. You know what I'm saying. I didn't. 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:57.560 I was I was more of man tronics. Uh trial 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.960 call quests were fanatics and try call quest. What I'm saying. So, so, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:08.640 who'd you meet first, Missy Aaliyah? It's like, I feel 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.880 like you're speeding right now, man, Like I know, because 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.440 I'm just saying I want you know why Virginia is. 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.720 History is so rich and a a lot of people don't 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:21.079 don't know that history like history. Yeah, So, like who 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.160 was the first one that you met that wasn't a 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.720 star at the time, but later on you realized as 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:32.480 a star. You know what I don't. I think we 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.840 just love music. I think when you love something, it's 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.280 gonna take you what you It's gonna make you who 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.560 you are. Like I think about it, when you made 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.480 what what what? What? What? Was it? You didn't know? 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.720 You just know the feeling of like I know this, 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.520 this feels big for me, and you know, I think 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.960 that nobody knew who was gonna be a star. We 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.640 just love music and we was dedicated through through thick 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.120 and thin, and I think that's what made and then 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.240 music once you love it in a determined where your 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.360 place should be in it, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:11.080 I felt like Virginia connected all of us and we 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.840 was the chosen ones out of that batch of probably 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.720 that Commonwealth area. I look at it like lottery ticket. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.560 You know what I'm saying. Who's gonna be the lottery person? 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:23.240 You know what I'm saying. And Virginia was a part 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.920 of history. It was someplace that people never expected. Now, 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:31.440 look look what we advanced to Toronto, Cleveland. Now we're like, 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.800 you know, it's but we was like the first of 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:38.920 the Mohegans being from Commonwealth and in Virginia, it was 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.400 it was kind of um weird for us because y'all 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.400 was like East Coast. Yeah, it was weird. It was 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.480 that I heard from Virginia that was killing it. And 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.040 I was gonna say him, he was the first, But 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.720 I'm not gonna say, like, you know, everybody to be 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.480 a star, you know, like that, that's that's up to music. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.560 But he loved music, you know what I'm saying. And 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.440 he did do a lot of successful things that put 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.920 Virginia on the map. And I feel like he was 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.000 a part of that whole, that whole chemistry, Like he 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.040 was the one who kind of like jumped out first 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.400 to me, what was the first major record that came 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.240 from Virginia? But it was like yo, you was like 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:26.880 we got something now, we had nothing we want like that, 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.160 I'm gonna tell you, Like it was come on and look, man, 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.280 have you seen Hustle and Flow? Okay, Like when you 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:39.319 look at Hustle and Flow, you just think about it, like, bro, 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.520 you ain't think about, no, what's a hit? You're thinking 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:47.280 about I'm trying to get out? Like we weren't thinking 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.160 like you know, this is a hit. It was more 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:56.920 like we're getting recognized more than anything, you know what 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.320 I'm saying. We're getting the job, we're getting out. We 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.400 our passion is getting looked at. It's not it's not 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.560 taking for granted. And I think that was the beauty 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.720 of us because we put in a lot of work 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.360 and that work was accepted. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.120 I think everybody wants that on Earth. Wants to be accepted. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:16.920 What was the first record you worked on? And he 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.840 was like, this is it for you? Because all of 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:21.920 us does it for a hobby at first, right, all 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.280 of us we love music. Most of us will still 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.199 do it if he wasn't getting paid or not, but 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.079 we wouldn't do it as much as we would. But 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.160 it was the first record where you did, and he 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.800 was like, this is this is it? I'm done, I'm 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.880 I'm I'm I'm gonna bury myself with this. And I 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.800 don't think it's no record, you know what, cause I'm 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.880 always trying to outdo myself. Okay, I'm trying to say 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.240 I need to. I feel like I'm just beginning because 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.920 that record and I feel and you're right. And the 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.240 reason the reason I feel like that, I watched the 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:54.000 Quincy Jones documentary twice. I ain't watch it yet. Ahead, 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:58.200 please school, I'm not I'm no in there close as 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.719 he said his second his second or something like that. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.840 But the thing is we look at the times win. 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.920 So I look at what I've done in the past 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:15.240 was a great It was like my first Harry Potter book, 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.720 so that I need to create the next chapter. So 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:22.960 hold up, one second had Let's see what the homies 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.760 that Spotify got going on. Amy Schumer presents Three Girls, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.880 One Keith, Let You Be a Flying, Comedy's Filthiest Wall. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.560 Each week, Amy joins her friends and fellow comedians Bridget Everett, 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.560 Rachel Feinstein, and Keith Robinson for candid conversations about sex, 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.560 culture and stand up comedy. It's your typical, hard hitting 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:46.560 educational roundtable, except with recurring segments like Okay, now, I'm horny. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.160 With the help of songs, games, and special guests, Amy 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.120 and her friends explore their very singular, very n SFW 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.240 perspectives on the world. Get your Mind into the Gutter 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.800 with Comedy's Greatest girl Gang plus Keith. Of course, stream 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.960 the a new second season of Amy Shumers presents Three Girls, 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:09.280 One Kid Now on Spotify. This chapter ain't as easy 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.800 as those, because once I master how to get in 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.120 the door, I knew how to keep it, you know, 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.840 I know how to keep jabbing. And then Swiss Cade 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.560 he had his run, and then it's like I gotta say, Okay, 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.360 let me come back. I gotta figure out how to 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.280 because he switched the whole swing. It was harder back then, 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.400 but it's I say, back then was like a a 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.160 more challenge I was coming, you know, I was ready 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.440 for this, this era where I'm facing. When I said 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.640 I'm just beginning, it's just like when you look at 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.240 Quincy Jones, man he went from Frank Sinatra to this. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.520 It's just a challenge. And I feel like I'm just 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.840 starting because this erab music is totally different from what 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:52.480 I'm used to so but it's not. But it's music 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.920 and I love music. So I feel like I'm just 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.800 and the way technology is, I'm just starting to crack 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.800 the code because I couldn't do what I can do now. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.080 Back then, I had to have to have to go research, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.000 I had to go do I had to really go 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.000 put in a lot of work to get a lot 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.479 of those sounds. And now all of that is available 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:17.040 to me in the laptop. So now it's like, Okay, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.280 I'm challenging the clip like people on the fruity loops. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.760 It's like I'm challenging. It's like a game. It's like 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.960 I gotta be the Fortnight. I gotta be that guy. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.960 I gotta be the guy. I gotta be all the teenagers, 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.680 you know what. I gotta oh, that's the new you know, 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.720 that's the way of music. Music is colors now. First 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.360 it was all about field people playing the room, and 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.320 now I'm trying to get this generation with that same 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.960 kind of vibe, but with the computers. You know what 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.480 I'm saying, I'm doing that. So it's like I'm really 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.200 just beginning, because my my beginning now is more than 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:55.040 just producing, is teaching. The youth of the generation is 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.760 about to come like, Okay, this is what we got 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.360 to make music with. I don't we come for you know, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.320 playing with everybody, you know how easily getting person to play. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.960 But now it's like kids making sample packs and it's like, okay, 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:10.160 well let's do it together. And so they've never been 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.080 introduced to that, so it's like taking. So for me, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:17.960 I feel like my generation wasn't like my fifthy My 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:22.960 fifthy age could be teaching and producing and inspiring the 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.879 next nine year old on the computer and seeing the 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.639 genius and him. You know what I'm saying. It's just 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.800 so I feel like I'm just beginning. You know, based 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:32.879 on that what you're saying, do you think the age 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.160 of and this is just hip hop? Because it could 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.560 be in every genre the age of the Super Producers 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.119 over because it was like the superdu just swiss. It 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:46.639 was you. That's a good question, I feel like and 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:52.080 that made years. I feel like it ain't over. I 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.040 feel like it's just it's just a little bit more 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.399 hard to work. This is different. They're just like I 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:00.280 gotta crack of cold. It's like it's like a video game. 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.960 It's just like I gotta crack some codes because it's 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.680 everything is cold. But let me ask the question. You 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:11.679 actually is over for like no over like specifically like 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:18.080 like like like I feel like I haven't seen that 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:23.080 bubble in the last five years. Who do that? I 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.760 don't know, but I like who did ty? You see 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.919 the fact that y'all even questioning it? Yeah, but right 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.960 now he did what else he does? He did ship, 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.760 he did me good producers, But to me producers, I 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.880 think I think I think it's I think it goes 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.159 to like I don't know, like I'm I look at 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:45.040 it like like a game man. That's all about styling. Now, 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.840 like your production is like your tag gotta feel right 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.280 like I get it now, like I feel like I'm nineteen. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.439 I'm like you got the computer, you can dress your 0:18:52.480 --> 0:19:00.680 ship up so crazy that, like, ment know what I'm saying, 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:05.800 It's like you ain't thinking about that tag coming. You 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:12.640 know who you got right take up? You know, it's 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.440 like it's already set. That's like the whole new way 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.840 of producing. But we have to figure out how to 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.480 introduce that ship to make them like yo, Nigga, y'all, 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.280 y'all tack do you know, like when you did a 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.040 lending on the track, like Nigga y'all gotta stand proud 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:27.880 with that ship like that, And I feel like that's 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:32.240 the way of us really kind of identifying who's that 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.720 next to producing and then we gotta say, okay, now 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.720 you gotta go put that same tag on area on 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.520 the grand day and made me feel like, you know 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.520 what I'm saying, that's where the trick come in. You know, 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.439 yeah do that. So it's like, you know, it just 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.199 takes somebody like a coach, which you should be me 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.200 or barrel or clients, like all right, now murder do 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.640 this like murder on him beating man. It's like hit 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.920 every like he picked the right tone for when the 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.840 ain't away drop. It just feels right. So it's like 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.280 you don't go by and be like it's a different 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.520 way of judging producing. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.760 like you can kind of like package your ship so cool. 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:13.879 You know what I'm saying. It's like the first producer 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.280 that uh we saut to you other than your camp 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.199 because you know you have worked inside the camp. You 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.000 had the genuine y that to live up. Who was 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.520 the first person the outside your capital was huge because 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.280 he was like, get your funk out of head, jay 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:30.520 Z jay Z said, jay Z had a party. He 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:31.720 was like, yeah, I want to I want to work 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.520 with you. And the first all we did was what 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:40.040 and I did this beat and he was like, I ain't. 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:43.480 He's spend to wrap him in, motherfucker. Want to add 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:46.840 lowcom at you? I said, oh, so I'll put my 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:50.520 headphones on and I said, He's like, you're done. See 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:52.639 back then, won't they won't no clicking? You know, I 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:56.360 want to computer to me actually playing feeling it. So 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.920 I was playing it and then he was like you're done. 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.639 I'm like it's five minutes. You know that was that 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.840 was because you know it's it's it's a keyboard. So 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:06.880 you like the day the way he done. So he's 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:08.880 walking around. You know, I played it and he did 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.240 his rat this like I heard his cadence and I 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.960 made that beat to bounce to what I heard. So 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.399 might I have a photographic memory when it comes to 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:20.320 sounds and sonics and melodies enough, that's only that. So 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.359 with music, I can kind of memorize anything. And that 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.080 was the first thing. He was like the first and 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.320 I was like, he kind of introduced me to he 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:31.560 kind of his tone he did. That made me step 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:35.320 my game up because I'm like, whoa, because it was me, missy, 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.040 all of us. So that was the first person from 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:42.000 the like the outside. You know what I'm saying, And 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:46.840 what jay Z is this? Now? This is is this? Um, 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.120 I don't know it's this it's this throwback jay Z? 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:54.200 He went, he went giants Jersey's what's jay Z? I 0:21:54.320 --> 0:22:01.520 think that? Well, yeah, I don't know, mm hmm right, okay, 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:03.440 but I gotta hold jay Z section so like this, 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:07.119 that's what I'm trying to give up this question into it. No, no, 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.199 I'm trying to figure out with We'll come back to that. 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.639 But that's what that was. That was that was the prime. Okay, 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.399 So when you got this call from Justin Timberlake. Right. 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.720 He was fifteen though, so it's not like you know 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.560 what I'm saying. It was like fifteen, So it was 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.720 like he was fifteen and there people reached out. He 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.760 was like, y'all like your music man, and like he's 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:34.119 about like maybe the sixteens ever seen we did? And 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:37.359 then um, because I got the studio had heard that 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.600 Justin had fell out with Farrell or something like that 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.679