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Speaker 1: know if you know, but me introduced uh interviewing producers.
Speaker 1: It's probably one of my favorite things to do is
Speaker 1: because the the producers not only have the story of
Speaker 1: the song, they have the story to make it in
Speaker 1: the song. So if you guys don't know who I'm
Speaker 1: talking about right now, when you think of Mrs Elliott,
Speaker 1: you think of a Leah, you think a genuine wine,
Speaker 1: you think of there's so many different artists who took
Speaker 1: artists and made them great. From the sounds of his stay,
Speaker 1: I heard that he used to make beat Stu beatbox.
Speaker 1: I heard he he he has so many people's careers
Speaker 1: in his hands. He's come from Virginia. He has stayed
Speaker 1: in this time relevant well over twenty years well and
Speaker 1: been kicking people's ass and staying here doing what the
Speaker 1: funk he gotta do. In case you don't know who
Speaker 1: the funk I'm talking about, we're talking about Timberland make
Speaker 1: something that now we want to we wanna this is
Speaker 1: a hip hop historic show, so we want to take
Speaker 1: it from the very like beginning by how how did
Speaker 1: you get your start? Because I heard somewhere that you
Speaker 1: was a beatbox at first, prior to you actually making beats,
Speaker 1: So how did you even start beatboxing? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: like I think it was. It was a contest. It
Speaker 1: was back in Virginia, just just um place called Stars
Speaker 1: I can remember, and I was a beatboxing. I always
Speaker 1: thought it was, you know, okay, but then it's like
Speaker 1: my main passion back then was djan And how I
Speaker 1: got into making beats is the music. You know, like
Speaker 1: every every season you got a drought season where it's
Speaker 1: like it's just the music you ain't like, you ain't feeling.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, let me just make a beat. And
Speaker 1: then my mom brought this cassio keyboard, the only extapp
Speaker 1: for one second, let me try to make it a
Speaker 1: beat so I can blend my records too, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you have to you have to
Speaker 1: be very creative back then, and were already severing your
Speaker 1: beatboxing at that point. I didn't sapping my box. You
Speaker 1: started doing that. I just had my beat box too.
Speaker 1: I got introduced to a studio, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And then, you know, really like when I got induce
Speaker 1: to a sampler that can sample longer than the second.
Speaker 1: So then it got to the point where I got
Speaker 1: a sh EPs something like that, a keyboard with sample
Speaker 1: up to sixteen seconds. So that kind of gave me
Speaker 1: for one second. Sixteen second back then was like sixteen minutes.
Speaker 1: So I just took what I had and I was
Speaker 1: just passionate about sounds. I love noise. Now. Now now
Speaker 1: we we recually have Molly mare here, right, and Molly
Speaker 1: mall alluded to um kind of making the new Jack swing.
Speaker 1: Yeah he didn't, so he kind of And it made
Speaker 1: me think of Telly Riley immediately. Riley's relationship to Virginia.
Speaker 1: What do you think when you hear a person like
Speaker 1: Marty mar said that he might have been the first
Speaker 1: person to start New Jackson. I kind of I would
Speaker 1: say he's correct. No way, I would say he's almost correct,
Speaker 1: because when you listen to le Me, like all the
Speaker 1: big Daddy cane, all the all and all stuff that
Speaker 1: he did, he had big that he king had. He
Speaker 1: gave a lot of different bounces, like what is a raw? Raw?
Speaker 1: Was kind of like the introduction to the New jack
Speaker 1: swing sound, and he Teddy just took it and enhanced
Speaker 1: it and modified it more. But he kind of introduced
Speaker 1: that because Teddy did produce the show with Douggy Fresh
Speaker 1: and yeah yeah, so so now now what does Telly
Speaker 1: Ronny meaning Virginia? Because I guess that was like a
Speaker 1: man's more. But what did he mean to New York?
Speaker 1: He just moved to Virginia from New York, So it
Speaker 1: was almost like some New jack city and you know,
Speaker 1: Brown moving into jail, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: but he was from New York, so it was like
Speaker 1: Virginia was like we're getting this big time producer from
Speaker 1: New York. Like we was more excited about that because
Speaker 1: he was already already like I mean, he was already yeah,
Speaker 1: because like I thought, you might have knew him from
Speaker 1: New York like new from Guy days like that he
Speaker 1: was in New York, so like we knew but I
Speaker 1: guess I guess New York wasn't like on it like
Speaker 1: but we we knew him Virginia like who because it
Speaker 1: was guy It was Teddy like he was coming to Virginia.
Speaker 1: So I was like, whoa, where were those dudes from
Speaker 1: Rex Rex and effects from They was from New York,
Speaker 1: from New York, Virginia. They just they just move, They
Speaker 1: just moved to uh oh man. I definitely didn't know
Speaker 1: that you'll have any animosity towards New York dudes moving there.
Speaker 1: It was almost like we did have a little animal
Speaker 1: it was. It was it was exciting, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because we're Commonwealth and getting somebody from the
Speaker 1: boys getting locked up in media up. It was cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it won't on jealousy. Back it was more like that's
Speaker 1: Teddy Rock, I guess what people do today, but in
Speaker 1: a different form back then. Did you did you be
Speaker 1: influenced by the New Jack Swing? I think I wasn't
Speaker 1: I think. I wasn't influenced by the swing. I was
Speaker 1: influenced by the sonics of the swing, meaning the sound
Speaker 1: high sounded so crisp, Like, how did he make was
Speaker 1: once a James Brown bounce from Funky Drummer? Did you
Speaker 1: get that's like Funky Drummer that he took it and
Speaker 1: enhanced it and made it more moderate. So it's let's
Speaker 1: be clear, because not everybody knows the definition of what
Speaker 1: new Jack swing was real? What is it to you?
Speaker 1: What made it new Jack swing? The swing? That's why
Speaker 1: he had to say, I don't know why they put
Speaker 1: new Jack to give it a sling, I think, but
Speaker 1: it was a swing. When James Brown did Funky Drummer,
Speaker 1: that was a swing. That's why everything about it when
Speaker 1: you go back into the Funky Drummer, James Brown will
Speaker 1: do nothing on that was the timing of it was
Speaker 1: a different like a he fu. He was just he
Speaker 1: was hitting the pockets to make people, to make the origin,
Speaker 1: to make the masses get it. So he didn't he
Speaker 1: left me think about it, go back into the um
Speaker 1: Funky Drummer. He I just could imagine them too in
Speaker 1: the studio right and it's like he walked into a
Speaker 1: little bobble. I'm just thinking like James Brown, So the
Speaker 1: studio and the drum, that's all he do on the
Speaker 1: record is athlete. So when you think about music today,
Speaker 1: is like it's all about that feeling and that that
Speaker 1: swing back then was like a new swing to make him.
Speaker 1: They made him do that. So when you talk about uh,
Speaker 1: Eddy Rowley, I don't know Jake so he they found
Speaker 1: how to write in those pockets of that swing. So
Speaker 1: that was like a that was the fastest swing the
Speaker 1: most songs from like Boom Boom that was. So it's
Speaker 1: like that's making the how do you make a person
Speaker 1: do this without being corny? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's a that's like a whole different swing. Now
Speaker 1: we have pushed your tea on here and push your
Speaker 1: tea told us that you for around and no Malice
Speaker 1: went to the same school seeing that school to no,
Speaker 1: she was from a noto like another town Portsmouth. Okay,
Speaker 1: so hold on, I just need to understand this school.
Speaker 1: And when you're in the same class, it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just I think it's just like anything
Speaker 1: up today. Now would I look back and I look
Speaker 1: at music up today, I'm like, man, it's the same way,
Speaker 1: and you don't see it until you get older, and
Speaker 1: you'll be like, it's no different. You know, God put
Speaker 1: people together with the same kind of brilliant minds, and
Speaker 1: you know you connect. You know, it's like y'all too connected.
Speaker 1: He he from you from Miami, and people are gonna
Speaker 1: be like, how it's gonna be some other kids like
Speaker 1: how to free you be like, damn, it was just
Speaker 1: It's just it's just supposed to be and for Real
Speaker 1: was always for real. If I when I look at
Speaker 1: for Real, it's nothing, nothing to change about him from
Speaker 1: what I know. So how did you meet Missy? How
Speaker 1: did how did Missy? Actually a friend of mine introduced
Speaker 1: When the Missy told Missy that I needed that she
Speaker 1: needed to meet me, and Missy came to my house
Speaker 1: and start doing music, You're like, oh man, he was artist. No,
Speaker 1: I was just doing beats and she she didn't want that.
Speaker 1: I was just doing music and she's like, he made
Speaker 1: dope beats. And I was like when she introduced me
Speaker 1: to singing over hip hop or hip hop beats, and
Speaker 1: when she was singing, I'm like, I ain't never heard
Speaker 1: that before, Like I never heard melodies over the music
Speaker 1: I was making. And she introduced my ears to somebody
Speaker 1: new candy you know before you heard? Yeah, she she
Speaker 1: the one like it was because I heard she introduced
Speaker 1: me to singing. You know what I'm saying. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was I was more of man tronics. Uh trial
Speaker 1: call quests were fanatics and try call quest. What I'm saying. So, so,
Speaker 1: who'd you meet first, Missy Aaliyah? It's like, I feel
Speaker 1: like you're speeding right now, man, Like I know, because
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I want you know why Virginia is.
Speaker 1: History is so rich and a a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: don't know that history like history. Yeah, So, like who
Speaker 1: was the first one that you met that wasn't a
Speaker 1: star at the time, but later on you realized as
Speaker 1: a star. You know what I don't. I think we
Speaker 1: just love music. I think when you love something, it's
Speaker 1: gonna take you what you It's gonna make you who
Speaker 1: you are. Like I think about it, when you made
Speaker 1: what what what? What? What? Was it? You didn't know?
Speaker 1: You just know the feeling of like I know this,
Speaker 1: this feels big for me, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: that nobody knew who was gonna be a star. We
Speaker 1: just love music and we was dedicated through through thick
Speaker 1: and thin, and I think that's what made and then
Speaker 1: music once you love it in a determined where your
Speaker 1: place should be in it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I felt like Virginia connected all of us and we
Speaker 1: was the chosen ones out of that batch of probably
Speaker 1: that Commonwealth area. I look at it like lottery ticket.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Who's gonna be the lottery person?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And Virginia was a part
Speaker 1: of history. It was someplace that people never expected. Now,
Speaker 1: look look what we advanced to Toronto, Cleveland. Now we're like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's but we was like the first of
Speaker 1: the Mohegans being from Commonwealth and in Virginia, it was
Speaker 1: it was kind of um weird for us because y'all
Speaker 1: was like East Coast. Yeah, it was weird. It was
Speaker 1: that I heard from Virginia that was killing it. And
Speaker 1: I was gonna say him, he was the first, But
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, like, you know, everybody to be
Speaker 1: a star, you know, like that, that's that's up to music.
Speaker 1: But he loved music, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: he did do a lot of successful things that put
Speaker 1: Virginia on the map. And I feel like he was
Speaker 1: a part of that whole, that whole chemistry, Like he
Speaker 1: was the one who kind of like jumped out first
Speaker 1: to me, what was the first major record that came
Speaker 1: from Virginia? But it was like yo, you was like
Speaker 1: we got something now, we had nothing we want like that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, Like it was come on and look, man,
Speaker 1: have you seen Hustle and Flow? Okay, Like when you
Speaker 1: look at Hustle and Flow, you just think about it, like, bro,
Speaker 1: you ain't think about, no, what's a hit? You're thinking
Speaker 1: about I'm trying to get out? Like we weren't thinking
Speaker 1: like you know, this is a hit. It was more
Speaker 1: like we're getting recognized more than anything, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We're getting the job, we're getting out. We
Speaker 1: our passion is getting looked at. It's not it's not
Speaker 1: taking for granted. And I think that was the beauty
Speaker 1: of us because we put in a lot of work
Speaker 1: and that work was accepted. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think everybody wants that on Earth. Wants to be accepted.
Speaker 1: What was the first record you worked on? And he
Speaker 1: was like, this is it for you? Because all of
Speaker 1: us does it for a hobby at first, right, all
Speaker 1: of us we love music. Most of us will still
Speaker 1: do it if he wasn't getting paid or not, but
Speaker 1: we wouldn't do it as much as we would. But
Speaker 1: it was the first record where you did, and he
Speaker 1: was like, this is this is it? I'm done, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm gonna bury myself with this. And I
Speaker 1: don't think it's no record, you know what, cause I'm
Speaker 1: always trying to outdo myself. Okay, I'm trying to say
Speaker 1: I need to. I feel like I'm just beginning because
Speaker 1: that record and I feel and you're right. And the
Speaker 1: reason the reason I feel like that, I watched the
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones documentary twice. I ain't watch it yet. Ahead,
Speaker 1: please school, I'm not I'm no in there close as
Speaker 1: he said his second his second or something like that.
Speaker 1: But the thing is we look at the times win.
Speaker 1: So I look at what I've done in the past
Speaker 1: was a great It was like my first Harry Potter book,
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Speaker 1: the door, I knew how to keep it, you know,
Speaker 1: I know how to keep jabbing. And then Swiss Cade
Speaker 1: he had his run, and then it's like I gotta say, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me come back. I gotta figure out how to
Speaker 1: because he switched the whole swing. It was harder back then,
Speaker 1: but it's I say, back then was like a a
Speaker 1: more challenge I was coming, you know, I was ready
Speaker 1: for this, this era where I'm facing. When I said
Speaker 1: I'm just beginning, it's just like when you look at
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones, man he went from Frank Sinatra to this.
Speaker 1: It's just a challenge. And I feel like I'm just
Speaker 1: starting because this erab music is totally different from what
Speaker 1: I'm used to so but it's not. But it's music
Speaker 1: and I love music. So I feel like I'm just
Speaker 1: and the way technology is, I'm just starting to crack
Speaker 1: the code because I couldn't do what I can do now.
Speaker 1: Back then, I had to have to have to go research,
Speaker 1: I had to go do I had to really go
Speaker 1: put in a lot of work to get a lot
Speaker 1: of those sounds. And now all of that is available
Speaker 1: to me in the laptop. So now it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm challenging the clip like people on the fruity loops.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm challenging. It's like a game. It's like
Speaker 1: I gotta be the Fortnight. I gotta be that guy.
Speaker 1: I gotta be the guy. I gotta be all the teenagers,
Speaker 1: you know what. I gotta oh, that's the new you know,
Speaker 1: that's the way of music. Music is colors now. First
Speaker 1: it was all about field people playing the room, and
Speaker 1: now I'm trying to get this generation with that same
Speaker 1: kind of vibe, but with the computers. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm doing that. So it's like I'm really
Speaker 1: just beginning, because my my beginning now is more than
Speaker 1: just producing, is teaching. The youth of the generation is
Speaker 1: about to come like, Okay, this is what we got
Speaker 1: to make music with. I don't we come for you know,
Speaker 1: playing with everybody, you know how easily getting person to play.
Speaker 1: But now it's like kids making sample packs and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: well let's do it together. And so they've never been
Speaker 1: introduced to that, so it's like taking. So for me,
Speaker 1: I feel like my generation wasn't like my fifthy My
Speaker 1: fifthy age could be teaching and producing and inspiring the
Speaker 1: next nine year old on the computer and seeing the
Speaker 1: genius and him. You know what I'm saying. It's just
Speaker 1: so I feel like I'm just beginning. You know, based
Speaker 1: on that what you're saying, do you think the age
Speaker 1: of and this is just hip hop? Because it could
Speaker 1: be in every genre the age of the Super Producers
Speaker 1: over because it was like the superdu just swiss. It
Speaker 1: was you. That's a good question, I feel like and
Speaker 1: that made years. I feel like it ain't over. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's just it's just a little bit more
Speaker 1: hard to work. This is different. They're just like I
Speaker 1: gotta crack of cold. It's like it's like a video game.
Speaker 1: It's just like I gotta crack some codes because it's
Speaker 1: everything is cold. But let me ask the question. You
Speaker 1: actually is over for like no over like specifically like
Speaker 1: like like like I feel like I haven't seen that
Speaker 1: bubble in the last five years. Who do that? I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I like who did ty? You see
Speaker 1: the fact that y'all even questioning it? Yeah, but right
Speaker 1: now he did what else he does? He did ship,
Speaker 1: he did me good producers, But to me producers, I
Speaker 1: think I think I think it's I think it goes
Speaker 1: to like I don't know, like I'm I look at
Speaker 1: it like like a game man. That's all about styling. Now,
Speaker 1: like your production is like your tag gotta feel right
Speaker 1: like I get it now, like I feel like I'm nineteen.
Speaker 1: I'm like you got the computer, you can dress your
Speaker 1: ship up so crazy that, like, ment know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's like you ain't thinking about that tag coming. You
Speaker 1: know who you got right take up? You know, it's
Speaker 1: like it's already set. That's like the whole new way
Speaker 1: of producing. But we have to figure out how to
Speaker 1: introduce that ship to make them like yo, Nigga, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all tack do you know, like when you did a
Speaker 1: lending on the track, like Nigga y'all gotta stand proud
Speaker 1: with that ship like that, And I feel like that's
Speaker 1: the way of us really kind of identifying who's that
Speaker 1: next to producing and then we gotta say, okay, now
Speaker 1: you gotta go put that same tag on area on
Speaker 1: the grand day and made me feel like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's where the trick come in. You know,
Speaker 1: yeah do that. So it's like, you know, it just
Speaker 1: takes somebody like a coach, which you should be me
Speaker 1: or barrel or clients, like all right, now murder do
Speaker 1: this like murder on him beating man. It's like hit
Speaker 1: every like he picked the right tone for when the
Speaker 1: ain't away drop. It just feels right. So it's like
Speaker 1: you don't go by and be like it's a different
Speaker 1: way of judging producing. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: like you can kind of like package your ship so cool.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like the first producer
Speaker 1: that uh we saut to you other than your camp
Speaker 1: because you know you have worked inside the camp. You
Speaker 1: had the genuine y that to live up. Who was
Speaker 1: the first person the outside your capital was huge because
Speaker 1: he was like, get your funk out of head, jay
Speaker 1: Z jay Z said, jay Z had a party. He
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I want to I want to work
Speaker 1: with you. And the first all we did was what
Speaker 1: and I did this beat and he was like, I ain't.
Speaker 1: He's spend to wrap him in, motherfucker. Want to add
Speaker 1: lowcom at you? I said, oh, so I'll put my
Speaker 1: headphones on and I said, He's like, you're done. See
Speaker 1: back then, won't they won't no clicking? You know, I
Speaker 1: want to computer to me actually playing feeling it. So
Speaker 1: I was playing it and then he was like you're done.
Speaker 1: I'm like it's five minutes. You know that was that
Speaker 1: was because you know it's it's it's a keyboard. So
Speaker 1: you like the day the way he done. So he's
Speaker 1: walking around. You know, I played it and he did
Speaker 1: his rat this like I heard his cadence and I
Speaker 1: made that beat to bounce to what I heard. So
Speaker 1: might I have a photographic memory when it comes to
Speaker 1: sounds and sonics and melodies enough, that's only that. So
Speaker 1: with music, I can kind of memorize anything. And that
Speaker 1: was the first thing. He was like the first and
Speaker 1: I was like, he kind of introduced me to he
Speaker 1: kind of his tone he did. That made me step
Speaker 1: my game up because I'm like, whoa, because it was me, missy,
Speaker 1: all of us. So that was the first person from
Speaker 1: the like the outside. You know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: what jay Z is this? Now? This is is this? Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know it's this it's this throwback jay Z?
Speaker 1: He went, he went giants Jersey's what's jay Z? I
Speaker 1: think that? Well, yeah, I don't know, mm hmm right, okay,
Speaker 1: but I gotta hold jay Z section so like this,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to give up this question into it. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out with We'll come back to that.
Speaker 1: But that's what that was. That was that was the prime. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when you got this call from Justin Timberlake. Right.
Speaker 1: He was fifteen though, so it's not like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was like fifteen, So it was
Speaker 1: like he was fifteen and there people reached out. He
Speaker 1: was like, y'all like your music man, and like he's
Speaker 1: about like maybe the sixteens ever seen we did? And
Speaker 1: then um, because I got the studio had heard that
Speaker 1: Justin had fell out with Farrell or something like that
Speaker 1: or so, I don't think nobody never falls out. I
Speaker 1: just think that. I just think that you know, in life,
Speaker 1: you know, as we go back and look at it,
Speaker 1: I just it's just sometimes misunderstandings, all business could be
Speaker 1: just misconstrued or misinterpreted. So that's all I think that
Speaker 1: happened on that moment. It wasn't like he wasn't not
Speaker 1: using for real. He was always working, but he was fifteen,
Speaker 1: but he was down with the he was but he
Speaker 1: was like breaking a breaking huge he was breaking. How
Speaker 1: was he did? Done? He was that's for the Mickey
Speaker 1: Mounth Club. So he so, so you don't so he's
Speaker 1: not justin you saying this is that's what trying to
Speaker 1: establish the point, Like yeah, so he was. He didn't
Speaker 1: it's not like the same. You know, Like when we
Speaker 1: got in the room when we did cry me the
Speaker 1: rim and all the crazy red, we thought he was black.
Speaker 1: You sucked us up for a minute. He was like,
Speaker 1: who is this black? I think? But then we realized
Speaker 1: the Mickey Mouse Club. Holy no, no, no, no no, I
Speaker 1: don't think it was me. I'm not gonna take the
Speaker 1: credit for me and to do the thing y'all think
Speaker 1: he was black because he had so it was the
Speaker 1: song that he put out in sync that uh whatever,
Speaker 1: And I was like, who the AGAs? And that's when
Speaker 1: they got That's when they got everybody attention. And it
Speaker 1: was him right that he was like the first like
Speaker 1: other than calling me bad, calling me bad, say they
Speaker 1: had they had like eight months before we knew yesterday
Speaker 1: these dudes ain't white. And Justin was the new version
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, it was, it was, it was,
Speaker 1: It was. It was evolution man like music to E
Speaker 1: ball because we just want through parts of the dope artist.
Speaker 1: And yeah, like he was dope and sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: got a line of things the way it should be aligned,
Speaker 1: you know, and him we just had we we got
Speaker 1: we brothers and we got chemistry, right we just got chemistry,
Speaker 1: you know, like chemistry. Chemistry can only be how can
Speaker 1: I say it? Chemistry can only be not You can
Speaker 1: tell when the person if they if we o was
Speaker 1: singing mean like if I got stuff going on in
Speaker 1: my life, he got stuff going on. Like we love music,
Speaker 1: but the music ain't gonna come out right. You get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because we all, I think when we're
Speaker 1: going that studio, we'd be aligned. Like everything that's on
Speaker 1: the outside it is on the outside and everything when
Speaker 1: we when we see each other, me and justice each
Speaker 1: other is let's put out foot on nigga's throats. You know,
Speaker 1: let's put out foot on their throats. You know, just
Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's let's let's just make this crazy music.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite studio session ever? The studio? Man?
Speaker 1: Like how you you're asking me this question? You're just saying,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite stud studio back then? Like come over come, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a mad of that's going to the studio.
Speaker 1: That's true, you know, because people will come in what
Speaker 1: you had in Virginia and all of yourself. I think,
Speaker 1: so only y'all I'll be in there, Like you know
Speaker 1: what the fun everybody, but being in there like but
Speaker 1: that's the point, so you can't say back then, I
Speaker 1: steal sessions meant something because there was adventurous, like you
Speaker 1: don't know, you know what I'm saying, you know it
Speaker 1: was it was wow, man, I still your sessions was
Speaker 1: the thing. It was like the studio. It won't like
Speaker 1: what's your favorite studio session? It was born like we're
Speaker 1: going to the studio, like if people were studio hot,
Speaker 1: like it was a club like I've ever ready to
Speaker 1: go to what's the studio? Jay had that Beanie was
Speaker 1: all base everybody like it'd be like that was the whole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't hit back there. Then they had
Speaker 1: Sony Up, it's crazy. That's what they hold. They ever
Speaker 1: made a beat from somebody and um, they didn't do
Speaker 1: exactly what you wanted them to do, and he was
Speaker 1: disappointed in the record. Is it shot time? Tipling? I
Speaker 1: feel like it's shot time? You know what? I never
Speaker 1: meant that. I'm like, I don't know because the beat
Speaker 1: won't letting them make something crazy. Talking about like the
Speaker 1: beat won't let you make something crazy, like it's gonna
Speaker 1: tell you like you just staying because my beast of,
Speaker 1: my best are disrupted. My beast of, Like it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: That's about that. I hear somebody tell me your beat
Speaker 1: for your first I don't know how to bob. Somebody
Speaker 1: tells you like it's so crazy, like it's a bob,
Speaker 1: but it's just throwing me off. So back then, it's
Speaker 1: like it was a new bound, so people was trying
Speaker 1: to find a new bound. So it won't Hey, the
Speaker 1: track will let you know that you lost. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you one artist that you brought the sound out of
Speaker 1: them and in such a remarkable way. I had never
Speaker 1: seen this. I was a big fan of this artist.
Speaker 1: His name is Pastor Troy. Yeah, Pastor Troy had this
Speaker 1: big underground following people from New York with away because
Speaker 1: people from New York wouldn't travel outside. I had these beasts.
Speaker 1: I would rhyme on down South beat, so I would
Speaker 1: get Down South shows and I didn't know why. And
Speaker 1: it was this artist called Passortroy, and he would come
Speaker 1: out and he was like, I ain't gonna understand, you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna play with yet we were that and he
Speaker 1: was like he would perform this song seventeen times and
Speaker 1: not one person would say, you did that are like
Speaker 1: he was just you know, and then when you did
Speaker 1: that record with him, it was like it was the
Speaker 1: first time any producer like even try to uh to
Speaker 1: give him up a worldwide sound. Did you feel like
Speaker 1: that because that was like, to me, that was his
Speaker 1: illess record he ever made. I just did me what
Speaker 1: he made? You want to work with him because he
Speaker 1: was super, super underground at the time, That's what I'm
Speaker 1: about to say that, Like, I feel like you got
Speaker 1: to see that's the problem. Like, you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: know if I was like to Pete the world kind
Speaker 1: of let me know, you know what. But I'm still
Speaker 1: from the South, so it's like that's what was out.
Speaker 1: I was attracted to all things with different flows spars.
Speaker 1: You killed it with was the first group that shocked
Speaker 1: me that me and Missy was a cruicial conflict. Crucial
Speaker 1: co Yeah, I see, like we we loved all that
Speaker 1: type of stuff. So passing trolley right up my alley,
Speaker 1: right up my alley. Anyway, why you never signed him,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he was already signed like
Speaker 1: back then, and I won't think about my business music man,
Speaker 1: you know, but he was dope. We made good records.
Speaker 1: We made that good record. We made another record too,
Speaker 1: But I don't think we're what's going on drink Champs Army.
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Speaker 1: I ain't care if y'all co sign didape I love
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Speaker 1: get a little deep right now. Your relationship with so,
Speaker 1: your relationship with Scott Storch Scotty, Yes, that's my boy,
Speaker 1: because it was your boy. But at one point it
Speaker 1: got a little shaky. I mean, nor, come on, I
Speaker 1: mean right, and when I look at because I look
Speaker 1: at music today, I look at you know who I
Speaker 1: was yesterday, and I'm like, that's just called yeah, that's
Speaker 1: just called not its blunts. But all right, cool, it's
Speaker 1: his ninety conversation and we're gonna put up pair of
Speaker 1: free lives later to come on, come on, were just young,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We were just young, that's ego.
Speaker 1: Was it competition or was it like brother just compe
Speaker 1: its brothers? But it was competition. But it's like you
Speaker 1: got and I realized that you gotta do that. You
Speaker 1: have to do that to really like say it for
Speaker 1: me and you. I have to get into a zone
Speaker 1: like that to challenge you else I'm not. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's my homeboy. You know what high pos do that,
Speaker 1: that's my big you know what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 1: I look back at it now, I'm like, that's why
Speaker 1: I don't do that battling and beef because I can't
Speaker 1: mentally psyche myself out. And I know I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back with like, yeo, man, why I would lose crazy?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that, that takes a
Speaker 1: lot out of somebody. So I think back there, we're
Speaker 1: just being young because we work together way and passive,
Speaker 1: you know. But um so, what do you think things
Speaker 1: like that happened in the hip hop game? Because I
Speaker 1: remember y'all as brothers at first correct started all this.
Speaker 1: I just think I just think maybe, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: I got jealous. Oh, I don't think I got jealous.
Speaker 1: I think it was the entourage telling Oh I heard,
Speaker 1: and I'm already probably slightly probably like going to Scott stories.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's that's a part of job.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the studio in the in the hip factory
Speaker 1: from not Kac and you having your talk Pats to
Speaker 1: the left, and Scott having his Scott was on fire
Speaker 1: at one point, you know what I'm saying. He was.
Speaker 1: He was on fire. I just don't remember you never
Speaker 1: not being on fire. That's the reason why I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's always a moment. You're not on fire as you
Speaker 1: do it. Because what happens and now I can take
Speaker 1: you the promise after because what Scott was on five
Speaker 1: there was it was people, it was artists in my session,
Speaker 1: and when Scott pulled up, they left to go to
Speaker 1: his session. Wow. So it's kind of like like a notification.
Speaker 1: Let you know, like he that it's like that new
Speaker 1: chocolate ball, that new whatever that knew nothing that new news,
Speaker 1: like that new refragator. But like, and then it kind
Speaker 1: of makes you mad because then when you like remind
Speaker 1: people like, don't come over here. And now I told
Speaker 1: you you know what I'm saying, So you have to
Speaker 1: realize that that just that just humans humans gonna We're
Speaker 1: gonna always flock to what others say is great and
Speaker 1: kind of throw us off balance. And what I've learned is,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta stay true to who you are.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Don't let that you don't
Speaker 1: throw me off, you know, throw you off off your
Speaker 1: game because you know it's always gonna be the next
Speaker 1: man on the block, the next person on the block
Speaker 1: that you know, you can't run things and be the
Speaker 1: guy to everybody go to. It's always a new sound.
Speaker 1: And what happens is where everybody go to you, you're
Speaker 1: thinking you're the only one. And that's what got in
Speaker 1: my head. And when the Scott and I'm like, he
Speaker 1: came up on to me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like those are things those that's the other man running
Speaker 1: into my head. So that gave me the competitive spirit.
Speaker 1: But to say but then that that was just in
Speaker 1: my head. What kind of took it over the top
Speaker 1: is the enter. Oh this person said, oh, Scott, yeah,
Speaker 1: he said this, so what you know, it kind of
Speaker 1: fed the ego to like, I'm a real producer. You
Speaker 1: just a piano man, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it kind of led. It kind of led to that,
Speaker 1: you know, because I already had that other demon in
Speaker 1: my head about you know, that's all you need is
Speaker 1: that push over the edge to make you be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's it, but you really don't. We're young, so I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to research and be like, wait, manute, this
Speaker 1: is my man, Like I might be tripping over there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, let let me go
Speaker 1: get some wound. Listen to somebody else, he says. He say,
Speaker 1: I didn't get to the game to listen to he says,
Speaker 1: he say, but but what's the history there though, because
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that he came up under you
Speaker 1: in a sense, like I know he used to mess
Speaker 1: with the roots and all that I met him, like
Speaker 1: Dr Drake kind of like introduced d is the big Yeah,
Speaker 1: like he's like Jedi, So you know we're people tapping
Speaker 1: into him for him to be Yeah, he was dope. Scott.
Speaker 1: Scott got a realm that nobody don't have. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, Scott to attack a beat totally different from
Speaker 1: anybody else, without attack a beat his soul in his body,
Speaker 1: he would go down. When I watched the Quincy Jones special,
Speaker 1: he is one of those white guys. It's gonna go
Speaker 1: down going the old dudes like wow, because Quincy had
Speaker 1: a lot of white dudes. That was some bad white
Speaker 1: ron timperture I didn't. He was one of the illests.
Speaker 1: And so when you look at Scott's storch, he can
Speaker 1: go that's one of the illness. So that's just a
Speaker 1: matter of ego yet in the place. But we really
Speaker 1: didn't have on beef beef. Yeah, I knew that. It
Speaker 1: was one of the things that finished, Um, that fixed
Speaker 1: your relationship with seeing how bad he went as far
Speaker 1: as the drugs go. And you know he's been on here,
Speaker 1: he's talked about it on here, this very show. So um,
Speaker 1: it's not I mean, I didn't know, I know the job,
Speaker 1: but like he live in life, so I won't even
Speaker 1: thinking about that. I was thinking, like why they're going
Speaker 1: to Scott stood you know what I'm saying, Like I'm
Speaker 1: the man you thinking about fixed the relationship like after
Speaker 1: I think I think just because of who I am
Speaker 1: as a person and who we is, that's like that's
Speaker 1: not us. You know what I'm saying. All we did
Speaker 1: is a matter of just talking. And all we did
Speaker 1: just talk and we was cool. Right. So now speaking
Speaker 1: of school, the one thing I always see about you
Speaker 1: just you always give Dr Dre his probs, Like no
Speaker 1: matter what I'm told, height that hight the height of
Speaker 1: you know, you know, ain't nobody better Drake Man. And and
Speaker 1: and then and that's what you think you think that's
Speaker 1: got your face a good town? You mean that like
Speaker 1: like I can tell the producer level what is it exactly?
Speaker 1: People be trying to be like dot, don't you do it?
Speaker 1: That's like that's like you can't put put you back
Speaker 1: And I'll still trying to. I just know he's just
Speaker 1: super du trying to like damn you get to keep
Speaker 1: the sound like that, you know, like damn man, Like
Speaker 1: he's still amazing me and he doing so It's like
Speaker 1: we are like in a lot of ways, like we
Speaker 1: like to be home, you know what I'm sayings the music,
Speaker 1: we don't go out like he's just like he the best,
Speaker 1: Like he it's like people. I think people would similar personalities,
Speaker 1: be attractive and be more amused by some someone and
Speaker 1: like themselves. So the first day you met Dr Dre,
Speaker 1: first time you met Dr Dre, let's take it Mr
Speaker 1: Lei first, dingy and describe a situation like how how
Speaker 1: does that? You know what? I can't even call you?
Speaker 1: You called down. I don't even know. I just I
Speaker 1: just thank God that he invited me into his presence.
Speaker 1: And you're in the scope to at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I see here go being young and then it's
Speaker 1: like I can't even talk about them because I didn't
Speaker 1: know how to digest it. Then, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And now when I look back at it, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I was kicking it with doctor. Really, You're like I
Speaker 1: made it. I was like you right here with you
Speaker 1: have been to bres seat too, So you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know you're not looking at it like,
Speaker 1: but I still was amazed, Like I said, not how
Speaker 1: to take it in? Now know how to take it in.
Speaker 1: And I can give you what I felt, what I
Speaker 1: thought I felt back then, and what I thought I
Speaker 1: felt back then was this is motherfucking doctor. Drake Dr
Speaker 1: Dre like Dr Dre's my Quincy Jones. Well, because when
Speaker 1: I talked with Jones, I always say, people sho be
Speaker 1: like man like Jay, like be that Quincy Jones. And
Speaker 1: I get why Jay said, you know, produce for me
Speaker 1: and be mak us you know, give us that you know,
Speaker 1: give ja like be the young Quincy like he should
Speaker 1: try to preach that to me all the time. And
Speaker 1: being in young Quincy is making smart moves, like when
Speaker 1: you got a beautiful record, you gotta know where to
Speaker 1: place that beautiful record, not be stubborn and caught in
Speaker 1: your ways and be like, oh that's my record. You
Speaker 1: gotta Quincy. You don't know how to place beautiful music
Speaker 1: with beautiful people. And Dr Dre was the god of wrap.
Speaker 1: Say that I know New York No, no no. When
Speaker 1: he touched rap, he made rap sound. He made it
Speaker 1: sound so clean like he actually mixed. He did not
Speaker 1: brag about it, he did not talk about it other
Speaker 1: people talk. So to hear word with not to drink
Speaker 1: people like he's going to speak. And that's how I
Speaker 1: was because I want to know, like yo, how you
Speaker 1: mix that drum, how you get the drum sound so
Speaker 1: obviously he was a fan of n w A. All right, yeah,
Speaker 1: that goes without saying so now let now listen. So
Speaker 1: now look on n w A. Um, there's a line
Speaker 1: where easy he says, Ice Cu rites the rhymes that
Speaker 1: I say, point blanks, straight out frivously says it it
Speaker 1: missed to it. So what that was there? Nowadays? People
Speaker 1: the screwed I don't know if that's a word screwed.
Speaker 1: They flipped on Drake for the same exact thing. And
Speaker 1: here's one of the greatest groups of all time. What
Speaker 1: is the difference between that Timperland being Okay, so you
Speaker 1: asking me the Lucien Fox, So you asked the guy
Speaker 1: who prot finds the superstars with the superpowers. Because I
Speaker 1: heard that, We've heard it. So I think Drake told
Speaker 1: you I'm I'm resilient for real. People need to really
Speaker 1: look at what that word resilient means. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that means for me and I really don't either
Speaker 1: looking up, But that word so brilliant, and I can
Speaker 1: what does he say? I mean he could like he
Speaker 1: could withstand anything basically, okay, like and said that's how
Speaker 1: I took it. So when I said, wow, when I
Speaker 1: looked it up. It said that, and more so when
Speaker 1: you look at Drake, he's like, yeah, okay, he's like
Speaker 1: Black Panther. I don't know where you're gonna How did
Speaker 1: Black Panther come in in the world? It was a shock? Right,
Speaker 1: didn't shock you by stomp? What did it do? A building?
Speaker 1: Like the movie? Listen to the character. Listen to the character.
Speaker 1: The character, he's like a new character. He's like the Okay,
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say, He's like the equivalent to
Speaker 1: Black Panther. He came in out of nowhere, and but
Speaker 1: you worked through them earlier, very very early, so he
Speaker 1: was already in the bill to where he was about
Speaker 1: to be. So what I so you asked me the
Speaker 1: question of why they trip it because he's the next
Speaker 1: biggest thing. How many times they trip on jay Z?
Speaker 1: It's just the topic of gold right and all that.
Speaker 1: But music is music? Why do I don't know? Like
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not a rapper, and I tell people
Speaker 1: I can't really I look at rappers like Avengers of movie.
Speaker 1: Character like, who's the next character? He to me is
Speaker 1: like the next Black Path. That's why I say Black Path.
Speaker 1: You're I look at like he came in like people
Speaker 1: gonna try to pick apart or he didn't do this
Speaker 1: why he got the necklace. So it's like he's that
Speaker 1: new character. You know what I'm saying that he's great
Speaker 1: at what do he do? He do it with so
Speaker 1: much class, so much pride. I mean, you know, but
Speaker 1: when I say you worked through them early on, you
Speaker 1: worked at them really really mixtape, I mean, how did
Speaker 1: you know? How did you like? How does the do
Speaker 1: like you even know? That's not all mean, that's like
Speaker 1: that's you. I'm gonna tell you that's that's that's being
Speaker 1: around eight jedies and then that Jedi. The other Jedi
Speaker 1: was jay Z. Jay Z knew he know because you
Speaker 1: did together, you and Jed. I'm off that was the
Speaker 1: first record, but he knew when he knew was that
Speaker 1: the first record? Though I'm on point at my own point.
Speaker 1: When I'm on point, God damn, I'm get like now
Speaker 1: I'm getting hype, now come on and get shot that
Speaker 1: and talking about I don't know what the earth, But
Speaker 1: I just know that jay Z knew he was the
Speaker 1: next one. Just like he called fifty six wait wait wait,
Speaker 1: wait to meet j J called this is a lot
Speaker 1: you're giving us right now. Stay stay on, Drake for now.
Speaker 1: I'm even gonna go back to please remind us to
Speaker 1: go back. So did what did he say? He said,
Speaker 1: he's just like me. He said, I'm putting this young
Speaker 1: this young boy, the kid from Canada like this young boys.
Speaker 1: And it's early. It's not like it's already got about
Speaker 1: when you When I go back and listen to him,
Speaker 1: he's one of us. He's a genius to me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Jake. The way Jay articulate things,
Speaker 1: the way he talks, the way he strategized life, where
Speaker 1: he moved even his braves. Now you know what I'm everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just honest, got twist. Now, I love
Speaker 1: it because Ja like a black eystyle. Let's make some noise. Fact,
Speaker 1: jay Z. He look like a black eyestein. Little people
Speaker 1: like the culture. That's what he's he looked like. And
Speaker 1: he's music. He's like he's like a mote. He's like
Speaker 1: Einstein to music. That's what I said, baby, And he
Speaker 1: he is. He's so brilliant and it's like he knows
Speaker 1: somebody else he knows. He's a separate elliot. Jay Z's
Speaker 1: a separate he knows who fit in his alien group.
Speaker 1: But but let's take it so hid when he heard
Speaker 1: Drake he said off that he probably said no bump
Speaker 1: off that he heard Drake before. You're like, oh, he's special.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, he got j Cole. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: is crazy because for him to have seen that, he
Speaker 1: saw that super okay smart. It took a minute for
Speaker 1: Jacob to really he smart. He knows smart people because
Speaker 1: like but he but like, that's why when I go
Speaker 1: to jail, I play him somebody is smart and like
Speaker 1: he that's I know he because because when he just
Speaker 1: I guess he knows how they are as a person
Speaker 1: when he hears them rap. I feel like I tried
Speaker 1: to say, well, how do you know this person is
Speaker 1: gonna be big? I guess when you hear the rap,
Speaker 1: you can hear the who that person is and um
Speaker 1: in their rap, you know what I'm saying. Like, but
Speaker 1: then today's wrapped. You'll be shocked because you'll find somebody
Speaker 1: doing something that did. You might like, no, this poor
Speaker 1: is crazy, but then you go to talk to him.
Speaker 1: He wanted the smartest kids, and you'd be like, wow,
Speaker 1: music has definitely did the flip floppers. But he is
Speaker 1: the leader of this generation. Um he is. He is
Speaker 1: like the leader. He can go like he's the o
Speaker 1: G like three kids like he is that guy. Big
Speaker 1: up my man, forty, big up Drake, goddamn big up
Speaker 1: my Canada. Niggers pick up most of my other nigger
Speaker 1: name Belly know the other dude for this that one
Speaker 1: I know, belly chops chops. Um, he picked them up. Man.
Speaker 1: I love to see O G s, especially the O
Speaker 1: G slash veterans giving. Yeah, this is this is a
Speaker 1: tradition for the show, just for the show. Listen. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know, don't listen work. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know all the hip hop shows, they
Speaker 1: just they listen at our hip hop show, we celebrate
Speaker 1: all legends. We give them their flowers when they could
Speaker 1: smell them, give them their thoughts when they can tell
Speaker 1: them you get a need, drinks where they can take them,
Speaker 1: they can take him. So goddamn. That's definitely different. And
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I hated every time y'all gave
Speaker 1: me some ship man ship. The terrible commination Young so
Speaker 1: Jorans first album, Jenior Wants first album, Junior wants not
Speaker 1: on correct these people come to you and says, I
Speaker 1: need to understand how it's about that. Let me break
Speaker 1: this down. Okay, I'm back then, I am young. I
Speaker 1: am enjoying the moment. I don't know ship about why
Speaker 1: and what. I didn't know. We had a run, let's
Speaker 1: keep it running. And you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: if if I know what I know now, I would
Speaker 1: have been like, wait man, wait man, we got something, y'all.
Speaker 1: We gotta focus because we got we got it by
Speaker 1: people talking about it. But we were so glad to
Speaker 1: be It was like it's almost like slavery, dude, like
Speaker 1: common Well, we were from Virginia. To be accepted was
Speaker 1: the biggest thing into not you know, you could be
Speaker 1: accepted and then be thrown back into the bushes. So
Speaker 1: we were trying to stay afloat. We weren't thinking like
Speaker 1: this sound. We just know we had a sound that
Speaker 1: was different and we knew that people it would make
Speaker 1: people uncomfortable, but you enjoyed later. That's what we knew.
Speaker 1: That's what you went in to. That we had a sound.
Speaker 1: Back in Rochester with Davante, we all had a sound.
Speaker 1: We was a crew. We had a sound about jod C. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how did that? How did that? Let's let's let's stack
Speaker 1: one first. He came from that so but he's from
Speaker 1: Virginia to this jod C from DC South bast but
Speaker 1: it's all close. It's right there. Yes, it's next day.
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty clol South. You don't don't do that.
Speaker 1: I thought that's new disrespect Southeast d C with j Beach.
Speaker 1: So it's not safe to say Baltimore as well. Throw
Speaker 1: it on the that you're gonna say Baltimore O d C.
Speaker 1: They're it's gonna be it's we Baltimore, we be more
Speaker 1: we d C. It's just it's no B. But it's
Speaker 1: just like, don't put you know. So so so here
Speaker 1: you're gonna say Brooklyn and Queen you know say no,
Speaker 1: we're Brooklyn. Well, if I'm from Miamie, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: it's like York, I'm just saying no. You gonna say no, no,
Speaker 1: Liberty City is Liberty City. No, no, no over town
Speaker 1: And you can't tell me that in Miami. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna divide it up from is that what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Like k mac did man it's like, but everybody was
Speaker 1: listening to Go Go in those areas. I guess go
Speaker 1: Go Google. I connected all y'all because we don't have
Speaker 1: the Miami to listen to go North Carolina, North Carolina.
Speaker 1: How the hell jo to see Devonte? How did you? Missy? Missy?
Speaker 1: Missy was in a group called phay Z and Missy
Speaker 1: I was a producer for fa Z. So Missy met
Speaker 1: Devonte in the backstage, you know, like, this's this the
Speaker 1: luck of a draw. She met them, she played the music.
Speaker 1: Davante flew them up to Jersey. They said she wanted
Speaker 1: to fly the producer up. He said, cool. I came
Speaker 1: up there and I stayed up there my sound. So
Speaker 1: you're working with Devonte, working with them, and they introduced
Speaker 1: you to Genuine yep, because he met Genuine the same
Speaker 1: way through a concert. So genuine I mean, so Devonte
Speaker 1: actually built my crew. Think about it? I had static
Speaker 1: before Static Distatic Major who wrote Lollipop for a Little
Speaker 1: White he wrote try again. So Devonte really kind of like,
Speaker 1: it's funny, I gotta work because the Bonte built a
Speaker 1: crew for himself when it was actually for me. Do
Speaker 1: you think about it? Because he didn't work with no
Speaker 1: th it was me. Wow, But he found all the
Speaker 1: talent for me. So he found who was the talent?
Speaker 1: Genuine static missy. Um. Yeah, that's enough, that's more. It's
Speaker 1: all right. So how did this happen? I did Mistand
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm just I just told you
Speaker 1: when nutshells like I was a guy under the missy,
Speaker 1: Missy brought me in like you do, like y'all gotta
Speaker 1: do the math like that. It's just it's the universe, man,
Speaker 1: how it's meant to be. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I could be on this show and from this
Speaker 1: show A thousand producers called me or this person called
Speaker 1: me the inhibition man. It's like, it's what it is,
Speaker 1: and that's what. And DeVante brought somebody, he built something
Speaker 1: and which was posted probably be for him. I wind
Speaker 1: up doing all the records for them. So what was
Speaker 1: How was it like working with Ginia wacause you didn't
Speaker 1: know he wasn't like Virginia like working with us. I thought, right, well,
Speaker 1: it's a putting. He put us together. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. What I'm saying, DeVante is building a squad
Speaker 1: for himself, but he actually building it for me. I'm
Speaker 1: the guy who's doing a hundred beats to night. So
Speaker 1: they're coming in the studio. Yeah, I'm in the studio
Speaker 1: from Virginia. I ain't got no studio. I'm having a
Speaker 1: ball and I got a call to Yeah, I'm having
Speaker 1: a ball. So I'm knocking beats out there in there
Speaker 1: with me. I'm building, I'm creating the sound. M dare
Speaker 1: you have it? And did as curls back then, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think because I wanted I'm trying to
Speaker 1: picture the studio seeing. Yeah, I'm trying to vat you like,
Speaker 1: did you ask girls? Didn't? I only introduced the videos.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I just wanted to make a
Speaker 1: record and give my mom a three thousand dollars. I
Speaker 1: ain't know about nothing about no video. When that stuff
Speaker 1: came out, I was fun onto, like, oh man, people
Speaker 1: don't real. Okay, I'm a country boy. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, you know, I'm like, dude, you
Speaker 1: know the hell I'm like, Okay, that's cool, that's dope. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll made some crazy records. Okay. Now, now you just
Speaker 1: did a battle with Swiss Speeds. We didn't do the
Speaker 1: battle yet, but it was somewhat of a battle. Some
Speaker 1: of it's called Instagram talk. What would you call call
Speaker 1: called I talk? That was wanted the derivative of drink champs.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that started on this. Yeah that started here.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that. That's cool. It
Speaker 1: didn't start here. It ain't the same whole whole thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe sho maybe should begin here, that's what That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He didn't start. I felt like you. I
Speaker 1: felt like when we seem the actual battle, I felt
Speaker 1: like it was unfair, even though I'm from New York.
Speaker 1: I felt it was unfair because you know, he was
Speaker 1: playing a lot of New York records with New York artists,
Speaker 1: because that's just a summer jam. Correct. So um, how
Speaker 1: did you feel about that? I thought you had fun.
Speaker 1: You was out there having fun. But yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: I thought was. I mean, we played a lot of it.
Speaker 1: We couldn't. I think it was me and Swiss look
Speaker 1: at it like this. It's not a battle. It's a reminder,
Speaker 1: don't ever forget who we are. And Swiss speaks like
Speaker 1: when people might have doubted, oh he ain't got none
Speaker 1: or people say, oh Timbo gud dudes, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, I'm on stage with my friend. He's my friend.
Speaker 1: We had just as much accolles, but it's just it's me.
Speaker 1: So when we play songs back to back, it gave
Speaker 1: people a reminder. I don't think people knew how to
Speaker 1: judge it. It won't no judge and people like people like,
Speaker 1: damn we played that Beyonce after Yeah he did that.
Speaker 1: It was more of a remind Does that play with
Speaker 1: the Game of Thrones? You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: we could go all night and it's like people don't
Speaker 1: realize the history that we had. Would you do that
Speaker 1: with for Frol that's my brother. Of course, we can't
Speaker 1: wait to play records because to us it is like
Speaker 1: it could never be a battle, but the battle will be.
Speaker 1: People will always judge it as That was my last question.
Speaker 1: Without doing I's gonna because he he has to set
Speaker 1: up the summons, but always at the table and say
Speaker 1: him yeah, like he like, you know, what, what's that movie?
Speaker 1: What's the Warlocks? And he'll be like the speller, like
Speaker 1: you know, I love the respect he shows. Dr Dreke
Speaker 1: What it would it wouldn't be a battle, will be fun.
Speaker 1: It'll be chess like pawn like chess. Like we're playing songs.
Speaker 1: It's like checkmate. Besides Dr Dre, if you was to
Speaker 1: go head to head with anybody else in this game,
Speaker 1: would you ever be worried? Like besides Dre like worried
Speaker 1: Like it's like song for song, I don't okay, So
Speaker 1: it's it's two different legacy, say Teddy Wiling. Let's say, uh,
Speaker 1: track for track. You know what I think when I
Speaker 1: think it's healthy for all of us to do that,
Speaker 1: You know why, because it really lets you know how
Speaker 1: far you really come and how you know. It lets
Speaker 1: you know your beginning of your journey and where it's
Speaker 1: really like a self a self moment thing where you'd
Speaker 1: be like I quit. Then you'd be like, damn, my
Speaker 1: ship was I thought it was just longer. It won't
Speaker 1: that long. It's kind of like a reflection of who
Speaker 1: you are. But you know what I'm saying, Like when
Speaker 1: I when we play our music and our heads and
Speaker 1: be like, man, why I stopped here? You know that's
Speaker 1: how I look at it. Somebody might look at it different.
Speaker 1: I would get like that was it that I'm not
Speaker 1: even listening to other dude that they play right like
Speaker 1: two oh man, I gotta pick it up, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it, is like the journey
Speaker 1: must continue, you know. He's like, look how I thought
Speaker 1: we came and see if we're still relevant right now?
Speaker 1: How are working with Little Wayne? The Wayne right now
Speaker 1: has uh quarterfi quarter fly. Um. I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody take off this long come back
Speaker 1: and his fans stay right there like they were right
Speaker 1: there like ready to line up, and just like I've
Speaker 1: never seen it. Like you know in this game, you take,
Speaker 1: you take two and a half years off those ACCCO
Speaker 1: is in your bad spot. I mean you're talking about
Speaker 1: young money. Yeah, I know that you're talking about Nicki Minaj,
Speaker 1: but even Eminem. Let's let's look even Eminem like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go back here. They came back and hearing me
Speaker 1: definitely not. I'm doctor darre can put the record out
Speaker 1: right now and people don't go crazy. Certainly it's gonna
Speaker 1: be his fan base because of what he left, Like
Speaker 1: Little Wayne left a mark, right I just think little
Speaker 1: Wayne's on the Wayne. Then he got, then he he signed,
Speaker 1: he signed the he signed the next person in this
Speaker 1: generation to be like him, which is Drake or Nicki
Speaker 1: Mina like those. He got two heavy hitters that keep
Speaker 1: him alive. Like it's not about him rapping sometimes, it's
Speaker 1: about the decisions he made, like you know, look at
Speaker 1: look what he look. I'm telling you, I'm great. He's great,
Speaker 1: She's great, And y'all paid attention. So it kept you,
Speaker 1: It kept you, It kept Wayne on your mind when
Speaker 1: when he didn't do nothing, I mean he blessed man.
Speaker 1: He got a gift. Wayne, gotta he can wrap right now. Um,
Speaker 1: I wanted to say this to the very end and
Speaker 1: then guy, I'm gonna get into my whole questions and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna go wrap it up. But so, how
Speaker 1: did you initially meet Eliah? Because I know we spoke
Speaker 1: about her in the beginning, Like how was my lawyer
Speaker 1: Louise West at that time, my lawyer was Louise West.
Speaker 1: She introduced the families to each other, which was Aliyah's
Speaker 1: family with you know uncle Mike, he rest in peace,
Speaker 1: he passed away. Um, that was the introduction. There was
Speaker 1: Louise West. How was the Craig Craig Coleman, Craig Coleman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Louise West and Craig Coleman. Craig, Craig get
Speaker 1: the man and create no music. Man, He's gonna find
Speaker 1: a way to dig yourself like he if he if,
Speaker 1: he gonna know now, he's gonna figure out. He gonna
Speaker 1: figure out what's hot now. He was a DJ. He
Speaker 1: was a serious DJ. So Craig got he got good
Speaker 1: ear is man, he got great ears, and Craig had
Speaker 1: I had a sound. He introduced us made the link.
Speaker 1: But it was Louisa gave Creig the demo of me
Speaker 1: and Missy to play Poor Leah that Leah Like. And
Speaker 1: then those sessions and see's from Detroit Detroit and y'all Lincoln, Virginia, Detroit,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Lincoln Detroit. Yeah, and your first session was
Speaker 1: my first session we did records. But then out of
Speaker 1: that first session came one of a million, and then
Speaker 1: the second session came if your girl only knew Wow,
Speaker 1: the first and second s the first session can't want
Speaker 1: the million, which is crazy, meaning that that won the
Speaker 1: first song in the first meaning like before we left
Speaker 1: we did one in the million. Okay, so we did
Speaker 1: other songs prior to won't like that was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to make myself like no superhero like I
Speaker 1: just the first song I did one a million that
Speaker 1: was at the You don't think that's in the first
Speaker 1: session made won the million. That's enough by but you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Then the second one was if
Speaker 1: you girls in there, all right? Cool? Now you've got
Speaker 1: like a triple album with jay Z. I've looked so
Speaker 1: when I do interviews, we we pull up everything. So
Speaker 1: you got you got the list. I'm gonna just name
Speaker 1: out some certain songs. You just tell me these certain
Speaker 1: sessions with you and Jams right during off show. This
Speaker 1: is this is one of them. All you can watch
Speaker 1: out on the Black album. Come on, no, we told
Speaker 1: you in the movie. No, this is a millennials. This
Speaker 1: is what new millennials right now. We gotta you want
Speaker 1: to see it on the Black people never see him
Speaker 1: on here. So there your shows. How did this come about? It?
Speaker 1: Just like all that thing, I mean, let's post these
Speaker 1: fourteen year olds who listened to us, who don't listen
Speaker 1: to these motherfucker's. But it's on the movie. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you to same thing in the movie like I wanted.
Speaker 1: He came down. It was the exact I had to beat.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I knew that beat was five and there
Speaker 1: it was. And the beauty about that that was the
Speaker 1: first time he captured the moment that can't be explained
Speaker 1: on film, and you can watch it the old Phil
Speaker 1: I don't know every time watchar timilar fans. You don't
Speaker 1: explave to these people, the dumb fans. The Blade the
Speaker 1: Black the Black, it's on the movie. You want for
Speaker 1: albums four four four on of fans. They're kind of
Speaker 1: slow fans, come on, just continued, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: his first album, not just Fade the Black, Fade the Black.
Speaker 1: That movie kind of he captured. So it's like he
Speaker 1: it was the perfect time and said, look when people
Speaker 1: have can go shore, I said, watch paper they on.
Speaker 1: He asked me about that, said, man, I watched Fade
Speaker 1: to Black Man we went Darrell show. I said, day,
Speaker 1: thank you, because I got this play. It's on camera.
Speaker 1: Everything is caught on camera, and people want to know more.
Speaker 1: It's like, no more, Okay, then how about big pimping
Speaker 1: you g K because at this time it's definitely not
Speaker 1: known in the New York area. Maybe Okay, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be real short and so goodhead cool. That was a
Speaker 1: track I was saving for Tim and Magoo me being
Speaker 1: sharpers and because I'm thinking I was on my I
Speaker 1: was on my sharpness right, and I was like, this
Speaker 1: ship bigger than me, this ship bigger than you, bigger
Speaker 1: than me. I told him when he's walking he's about
Speaker 1: to leave studio, I told him, and man, I gotta
Speaker 1: be don't want to play. I don't want to play
Speaker 1: it for you, but he took him before heats the studio.
Speaker 1: I'm like you, I don't want to play the beat
Speaker 1: for you, but I know it's for you, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play. So I played he take off his jacket,
Speaker 1: hip hop take off day Jack's like, oh, J face
Speaker 1: lit up and hip hop with it, say big him
Speaker 1: and Do said we're on something, and Jay said, I
Speaker 1: see the mark was automatic that you came would be
Speaker 1: on that record or now at that point that track.
Speaker 1: J took time with that track. He didn't do this
Speaker 1: like Hi, jay Z do it. This was he took
Speaker 1: his time with that record. And you can tell because
Speaker 1: look at what it's so weve got sued over this ship?
Speaker 1: How did that lawsuit ended up? Just production? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't like the brag, but you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: we walked out of there. You know, I just believe
Speaker 1: that it was good. It was good. But you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because it was I just think the
Speaker 1: injury of the song. It was not done in the malice. Wait,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like we was
Speaker 1: trying to get over. I paid you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The sample. Yeah, it's like I paid you that I
Speaker 1: don't know I paid. So that's how I paid whatever.
Speaker 1: There you go, and then they tried to come back afterwards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's beauty. It the song is beautiful. Man
Speaker 1: Like when something is so beautiful, you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be evil around the corner, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that song is beautiful, and you
Speaker 1: know it was made out of love. It's like when
Speaker 1: jay Z did that, I saw the love in his
Speaker 1: face to track put a smile on his face, Like
Speaker 1: I saw that this was that one for him. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I saw like this what's gonna
Speaker 1: make can think? Like I know, jay Z's a he's
Speaker 1: a person who likes to read. If he if he
Speaker 1: ever texts you the way he texts, he's very short,
Speaker 1: so smart. He texts you he's I'm telling you man,
Speaker 1: he's like John Q. I'm telling you now, Holy ground.
Speaker 1: He only called me. I was in New York. Dream
Speaker 1: had the hook already. He he wanted me to remake
Speaker 1: the beat and I did. I did my part. I
Speaker 1: didn't Lucien's Fox he wanted. He called me into upgrade
Speaker 1: the equipment. That's what this did, like a little bit
Speaker 1: the same you know im same dream had. Dream gave
Speaker 1: me all the two. She said, this is what you got.
Speaker 1: I said, all right to me up leave a little
Speaker 1: my my hard drive. Whoop, whoop. There it is and
Speaker 1: me not just me by myself. Jerome Jay Rock. He
Speaker 1: was great. He called it. He was like my side partner.
Speaker 1: He was my you know, not not gonna say my assistant.
Speaker 1: And I like to say my partner because at that
Speaker 1: time he was my partner. And he when I needed
Speaker 1: assistant on this particular project. I'm gonna when he happens
Speaker 1: to uh, I wanted to uh. I needed some keys.
Speaker 1: He knew how to elevate, so he was a great
Speaker 1: partner at that time. Okay, now I'm gonna go on more.
Speaker 1: Is that your bitch? I think that's a I had
Speaker 1: that track and I gave it to Puff originally, but
Speaker 1: ye time, what I think I think I gave it
Speaker 1: to I was. I believe it was a Puff but
Speaker 1: Puff Daddy, Yeah, I believe, I think so. But he
Speaker 1: turned that down. He didn't turn it down. I think
Speaker 1: he was late. I think maybe I might have been
Speaker 1: just playing music to be playing and jay zs just
Speaker 1: held at me. You know. That was like but when
Speaker 1: he did the rap, It's like, oh man, he fitted
Speaker 1: did you call Puff and tell him it's a rap? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, how did you do that? How did that
Speaker 1: phone go out? Did the record just come out? That
Speaker 1: was a messy system way because I I didn't. That
Speaker 1: was the first thing, like, oh man, what do I do?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But that wasn't me being
Speaker 1: young and naive and not understanding the ethics of business
Speaker 1: and jumping the gun, you know, And I learned my lesson.
Speaker 1: Nothing major happened, But just like I don't like to
Speaker 1: have confusion, and music. I don't like to have one
Speaker 1: person upset with me because I get another person something
Speaker 1: that I didn't know their treasure, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it just business ethics came in, like when you
Speaker 1: do something, you know, have your word and or do
Speaker 1: the right way. Would be another temple in the Magoo Procectgo.
Speaker 1: That's the only person we ain't talking about talk about
Speaker 1: anybody else that was like he Magoo was my friend.
Speaker 1: So it was like it was a fun thing and
Speaker 1: it was fun to do because he was like the
Speaker 1: down south que tip almost yeah, I guess he was
Speaker 1: like Flex told me that today he was like he
Speaker 1: was like cute tip Um. He said he was my friend.
Speaker 1: He's my friend, Maxim. Sorry, I tried to make I mean,
Speaker 1: he's my friend. You know. That was something that we
Speaker 1: did that was a dream or a passion of ours
Speaker 1: and we did it. But it wasn't meant to be
Speaker 1: one or two or three or four with something that
Speaker 1: like we're doing for fun. Yeah, and it happened right
Speaker 1: then we get paid for it and the funding was
Speaker 1: worth while at a moment, I think it was well, Timberland,
Speaker 1: we just want you to know we salute our legends.
Speaker 1: We in our game that's every ten years. These people
Speaker 1: want to ride you off and they want to say
Speaker 1: you're over, and they want to say no matter if
Speaker 1: you're getting money or not. And in this game, I
Speaker 1: want to reverse that. I want to change that. I
Speaker 1: want you to people to know that you know the
Speaker 1: black of the very, that sweet of the juice. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The older you get, the older
Speaker 1: you're loose. And the older you don't get old because
Speaker 1: you stop playing. You get old. Of course you stop playing.
Speaker 1: It's a different generation and we're the O G S.
Speaker 1: And we got to figure out how to translate that
Speaker 1: to the new genes, to the new generation. And I
Speaker 1: understand it now. It's like the problem with us. We
Speaker 1: always criticize so much. But when we was young, win
Speaker 1: criticize nothing. And when you look at Takai six nine,
Speaker 1: and these people are great, man, pick them up. You
Speaker 1: know they all, they all, they are great artists. Let
Speaker 1: them be who they're gonna be. Let's watch, let's watch
Speaker 1: their journey. And some way Quincy Jones watched all the
Speaker 1: people he produced and he looked back at it and
Speaker 1: he was like, man, I produced all these people and
Speaker 1: they all died. And I'm not I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: about a new generation. But let's just watch their journey
Speaker 1: and see what happened and hand down that information over here.
Speaker 1: And if they they're taken, if they don't want it,
Speaker 1: that's on them. And it's not fun because they made
Speaker 1: great music to me. And then you would have changed,
Speaker 1: if people ever would have started over anything you would
Speaker 1: like to change. I just should have been more alert
Speaker 1: when it comes to business and not let the fund
Speaker 1: get in a way. It should have been more, you know,
Speaker 1: just alert a lot of things. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: we're young, we're doing me we you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm still y'all you still, I'm still but I'm
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. But I didn't come from that world.
Speaker 1: So when everything moving fast, I just, you know, should
Speaker 1: have slowed it down at my pace. And you're in
Speaker 1: the gym, crazy, what's your trainer? Hooked me up doing
Speaker 1: this job? You know? For real, you're looking very young?
Speaker 1: How is that? How is that you know, getting on
Speaker 1: and getting into the gym and what makes you sparking
Speaker 1: and do that? It was because I read I've seen
Speaker 1: a room or where people were quitting because they was
Speaker 1: hanging with Dr Dre being the engineers, and Dre would
Speaker 1: make his engineers and his assisted go to the studio
Speaker 1: and if people were quit and I've never heard of that,
Speaker 1: are you like that? The yeah, he would make them
Speaker 1: go to the gym like filming and all type of
Speaker 1: ship because you gotta be a machine like we all.
Speaker 1: So your engineer, your assisted, everybody gotta do the same.
Speaker 1: I got my own legenda, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I got a partner, my girl, and my partner
Speaker 1: pick up your girl and we do everything. Man, We
Speaker 1: like on the New Incredibles. Goddamnit, the Incredibles with the
Speaker 1: red suit long niggers all give me how fine the Incredibles?
Speaker 1: So you and your lady is the new Incredibles? That can?
Speaker 1: We do everything together? I seen y'all to Jay Z
Speaker 1: and Beyonce concert, y'all was over there. Gucci down, y'all now,
Speaker 1: I seen you Gucci down to me? Is she here
Speaker 1: right now? Okay? And I was like the club car
Speaker 1: that correct, it was club car, club car works? She work? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do everything together. This is so beautiful, all doesn't
Speaker 1: I'm married I'm marriedn't make some noise for me. I
Speaker 1: can make my mad. He's gonna give two all give me.
Speaker 1: I'm goddamn marriage. Give me marriage Backsten. You know, it's
Speaker 1: beautiful to show hip hop growing up because back in
Speaker 1: the days, in the nineties, we're talking about sucking all
Speaker 1: these niggas. Ain't sucking these businesses right now. I think
Speaker 1: it's this old man my knees. First of all, you
Speaker 1: don't want we thank too much, you know. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I don't like I'm comfortable. Listen,
Speaker 1: Atlantic records ain't fit. Atlantic records back a personal party
Speaker 1: today and I said, Yo, got up my knees hurt it.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry, No, I don't hurt. I just
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. I want to fox like
Speaker 1: me and my girl. We're in incredible we can't be
Speaker 1: seen everywhere. That's oh god damn it. I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: using that because le's come take that. I'm like, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest sometimes the older you know, that's
Speaker 1: why I love four four four is four four four
Speaker 1: actually reflected a grown man. Yeah, but they but the
Speaker 1: kids ain't gonna be that till later. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: less for for the kids. Correct, it's for them. It's
Speaker 1: the Bible for them. Don't get it, it's the Bible.
Speaker 1: And I can leave on that note. Jay Z left
Speaker 1: the Bible. He left the Book of Eli for this generation.
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