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Speaker 1: song that he put out in sync that uh whatever,

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00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, who the AGAs? And that's when

425
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: they got That's when they got everybody attention. And it

426
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: was him right that he was like the first like

427
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: other than calling me bad, calling me bad, say they

428
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: had they had like eight months before we knew yesterday

429
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: these dudes ain't white. And Justin was the new version

430
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, it was, it was, it was,

431
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: It was. It was evolution man like music to E

432
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: ball because we just want through parts of the dope artist.

433
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, like he was dope and sometimes you know,

434
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: got a line of things the way it should be aligned,

435
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, and him we just had we we got

436
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: we brothers and we got chemistry, right we just got chemistry,

437
00:24:53,160 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, like chemistry. Chemistry can only be how can

438
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: I say it? Chemistry can only be not You can

439
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: tell when the person if they if we o was

440
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: singing mean like if I got stuff going on in

441
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: my life, he got stuff going on. Like we love music,

442
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: but the music ain't gonna come out right. You get

443
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because we all, I think when we're

444
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: going that studio, we'd be aligned. Like everything that's on

445
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: the outside it is on the outside and everything when

446
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: we when we see each other, me and justice each

447
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: other is let's put out foot on nigga's throats. You know,

448
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: let's put out foot on their throats. You know, just

449
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's let's let's just make this crazy music.

450
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: What was your favorite studio session ever? The studio? Man?

451
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: Like how you you're asking me this question? You're just saying,

452
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: what's your favorite stud studio back then? Like come over come, Yeah,

453
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: it's just a mad of that's going to the studio.

454
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: That's true, you know, because people will come in what

455
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: you had in Virginia and all of yourself. I think,

456
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: so only y'all I'll be in there, Like you know

457
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: what the fun everybody, but being in there like but

458
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: that's the point, so you can't say back then, I

459
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: steal sessions meant something because there was adventurous, like you

460
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: don't know, you know what I'm saying, you know it

461
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: was it was wow, man, I still your sessions was

462
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: the thing. It was like the studio. It won't like

463
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: what's your favorite studio session? It was born like we're

464
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: going to the studio, like if people were studio hot,

465
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: like it was a club like I've ever ready to

466
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: go to what's the studio? Jay had that Beanie was

467
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: all base everybody like it'd be like that was the whole. Yeah,

468
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't hit back there. Then they had

469
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: Sony Up, it's crazy. That's what they hold. They ever

470
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: made a beat from somebody and um, they didn't do

471
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: exactly what you wanted them to do, and he was

472
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: disappointed in the record. Is it shot time? Tipling? I

473
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: feel like it's shot time? You know what? I never

474
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: meant that. I'm like, I don't know because the beat

475
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: won't letting them make something crazy. Talking about like the

476
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: beat won't let you make something crazy, like it's gonna

477
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: tell you like you just staying because my beast of,

478
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: my best are disrupted. My beast of, Like it's uncomfortable.

479
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: That's about that. I hear somebody tell me your beat

480
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: for your first I don't know how to bob. Somebody

481
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: tells you like it's so crazy, like it's a bob,

482
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: but it's just throwing me off. So back then, it's

483
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: like it was a new bound, so people was trying

484
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: to find a new bound. So it won't Hey, the

485
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: track will let you know that you lost. I'll tell

486
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: you one artist that you brought the sound out of

487
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: them and in such a remarkable way. I had never

488
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: seen this. I was a big fan of this artist.

489
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: His name is Pastor Troy. Yeah, Pastor Troy had this

490
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: big underground following people from New York with away because

491
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: people from New York wouldn't travel outside. I had these beasts.

492
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: I would rhyme on down South beat, so I would

493
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: get Down South shows and I didn't know why. And

494
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 1: it was this artist called Passortroy, and he would come

495
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: out and he was like, I ain't gonna understand, you

496
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: ain't gonna play with yet we were that and he

497
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: was like he would perform this song seventeen times and

498
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: not one person would say, you did that are like

499
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: he was just you know, and then when you did

500
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: that record with him, it was like it was the

501
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: first time any producer like even try to uh to

502
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: give him up a worldwide sound. Did you feel like

503
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: that because that was like, to me, that was his

504
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: illess record he ever made. I just did me what

505
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: he made? You want to work with him because he

506
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: was super, super underground at the time, That's what I'm

507
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: about to say that, Like, I feel like you got

508
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: to see that's the problem. Like, you know, I didn't

509
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: know if I was like to Pete the world kind

510
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: of let me know, you know what. But I'm still

511
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: from the South, so it's like that's what was out.

512
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: I was attracted to all things with different flows spars.

513
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: You killed it with was the first group that shocked

514
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: me that me and Missy was a cruicial conflict. Crucial

515
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: co Yeah, I see, like we we loved all that

516
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: type of stuff. So passing trolley right up my alley,

517
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: right up my alley. Anyway, why you never signed him,

518
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he was already signed like

519
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: back then, and I won't think about my business music man,

520
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, but he was dope. We made good records.

521
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 1: We made that good record. We made another record too,

522
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,680
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523
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548
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: was was hard because that was hard. That was hard.

549
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: I did my own unofficial remix to it and everything.

550
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: I ain't care if y'all co sign didape I love

551
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: to be some I was like, fuck it. I think

552
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: like four Giffing freestunds this year. So, okay, we're gonna

553
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: get a little deep right now. Your relationship with so,

554
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: your relationship with Scott Storch Scotty, Yes, that's my boy,

555
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: because it was your boy. But at one point it

556
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: got a little shaky. I mean, nor, come on, I

557
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: mean right, and when I look at because I look

558
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: at music today, I look at you know who I

559
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: was yesterday, and I'm like, that's just called yeah, that's

560
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: just called not its blunts. But all right, cool, it's

561
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: his ninety conversation and we're gonna put up pair of

562
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: free lives later to come on, come on, were just young,

563
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We were just young, that's ego.

564
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: Was it competition or was it like brother just compe

565
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: its brothers? But it was competition. But it's like you

566
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: got and I realized that you gotta do that. You

567
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: have to do that to really like say it for

568
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: me and you. I have to get into a zone

569
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: like that to challenge you else I'm not. I'm like, damn,

570
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: that's my homeboy. You know what high pos do that,

571
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: that's my big you know what I'm saying. So when

572
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: I look back at it now, I'm like, that's why

573
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't do that battling and beef because I can't

574
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: mentally psyche myself out. And I know I'm gonna go

575
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: back with like, yeo, man, why I would lose crazy?

576
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that, that takes a

577
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: lot out of somebody. So I think back there, we're

578
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: just being young because we work together way and passive,

579
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: you know. But um so, what do you think things

580
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: like that happened in the hip hop game? Because I

581
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: remember y'all as brothers at first correct started all this.

582
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I just think I just think maybe, you know, maybe

583
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: I got jealous. Oh, I don't think I got jealous.

584
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: I think it was the entourage telling Oh I heard,

585
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: and I'm already probably slightly probably like going to Scott stories.

586
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's that's a part of job.

587
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the studio in the in the hip factory

588
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: from not Kac and you having your talk Pats to

589
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: the left, and Scott having his Scott was on fire

590
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: at one point, you know what I'm saying. He was.

591
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: He was on fire. I just don't remember you never

592
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: not being on fire. That's the reason why I was like, no,

593
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: it's always a moment. You're not on fire as you

594
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: do it. Because what happens and now I can take

595
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: you the promise after because what Scott was on five

596
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: there was it was people, it was artists in my session,

597
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: and when Scott pulled up, they left to go to

598
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: his session. Wow. So it's kind of like like a notification.

599
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: Let you know, like he that it's like that new

600
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: chocolate ball, that new whatever that knew nothing that new news,

601
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: like that new refragator. But like, and then it kind

602
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: of makes you mad because then when you like remind

603
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: people like, don't come over here. And now I told

604
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: you you know what I'm saying, So you have to

605
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: realize that that just that just humans humans gonna We're

606
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: gonna always flock to what others say is great and

607
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: kind of throw us off balance. And what I've learned is,

608
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta stay true to who you are.

609
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Don't let that you don't

610
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: throw me off, you know, throw you off off your

611
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: game because you know it's always gonna be the next

612
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: man on the block, the next person on the block

613
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: that you know, you can't run things and be the

614
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: guy to everybody go to. It's always a new sound.

615
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: And what happens is where everybody go to you, you're

616
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: thinking you're the only one. And that's what got in

617
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: my head. And when the Scott and I'm like, he

618
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: came up on to me, you know what I'm saying,

619
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: like those are things those that's the other man running

620
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: into my head. So that gave me the competitive spirit.

621
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: But to say but then that that was just in

622
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 1: my head. What kind of took it over the top

623
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: is the enter. Oh this person said, oh, Scott, yeah,

624
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: he said this, so what you know, it kind of

625
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: fed the ego to like, I'm a real producer. You

626
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: just a piano man, you know what I'm saying. So

627
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: it kind of led. It kind of led to that,

628
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: you know, because I already had that other demon in

629
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: my head about you know, that's all you need is

630
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: that push over the edge to make you be like, oh,

631
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: that's it, but you really don't. We're young, so I'm

632
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: not trying to research and be like, wait, manute, this

633
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: is my man, Like I might be tripping over there,

634
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, let let me go

635
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: get some wound. Listen to somebody else, he says. He say,

636
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: I didn't get to the game to listen to he says,

637
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: he say, but but what's the history there though, because

638
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that he came up under you

639
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: in a sense, like I know he used to mess

640
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: with the roots and all that I met him, like

641
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: Dr Drake kind of like introduced d is the big Yeah,

642
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: like he's like Jedi, So you know we're people tapping

643
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: into him for him to be Yeah, he was dope. Scott.

644
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: Scott got a realm that nobody don't have. All right,

645
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: all right, Scott to attack a beat totally different from

646
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: anybody else, without attack a beat his soul in his body,

647
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: he would go down. When I watched the Quincy Jones special,

648
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: he is one of those white guys. It's gonna go

649
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: down going the old dudes like wow, because Quincy had

650
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: a lot of white dudes. That was some bad white

651
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: ron timperture I didn't. He was one of the illests.

652
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: And so when you look at Scott's storch, he can

653
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: go that's one of the illness. So that's just a

654
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: matter of ego yet in the place. But we really

655
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: didn't have on beef beef. Yeah, I knew that. It

656
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 1: was one of the things that finished, Um, that fixed

657
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: your relationship with seeing how bad he went as far

658
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: as the drugs go. And you know he's been on here,

659
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: he's talked about it on here, this very show. So um,

660
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: it's not I mean, I didn't know, I know the job,

661
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: but like he live in life, so I won't even

662
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: thinking about that. I was thinking, like why they're going

663
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: to Scott stood you know what I'm saying, Like I'm

664
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: the man you thinking about fixed the relationship like after

665
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: I think I think just because of who I am

666
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: as a person and who we is, that's like that's

667
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: not us. You know what I'm saying. All we did

668
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: is a matter of just talking. And all we did

669
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: just talk and we was cool. Right. So now speaking

670
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: of school, the one thing I always see about you

671
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: just you always give Dr Dre his probs, Like no

672
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: matter what I'm told, height that hight the height of

673
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, you know, ain't nobody better Drake Man. And and

674
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: and then and that's what you think you think that's

675
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: got your face a good town? You mean that like

676
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: like I can tell the producer level what is it exactly?

677
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: People be trying to be like dot, don't you do it?

678
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: That's like that's like you can't put put you back

679
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: And I'll still trying to. I just know he's just

680
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: super du trying to like damn you get to keep

681
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: the sound like that, you know, like damn man, Like

682
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: he's still amazing me and he doing so It's like

683
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: we are like in a lot of ways, like we

684
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: like to be home, you know what I'm sayings the music,

685
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: we don't go out like he's just like he the best,

686
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: Like he it's like people. I think people would similar personalities,

687
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: be attractive and be more amused by some someone and

688
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: like themselves. So the first day you met Dr Dre,

689
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: first time you met Dr Dre, let's take it Mr

690
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: Lei first, dingy and describe a situation like how how

691
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: does that? You know what? I can't even call you?

692
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: You called down. I don't even know. I just I

693
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: just thank God that he invited me into his presence.

694
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: And you're in the scope to at the time. Yeah,

695
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: but I see here go being young and then it's

696
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: like I can't even talk about them because I didn't

697
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 1: know how to digest it. Then, you know what I'm saying.

698
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: And now when I look back at it, I'm like, yo,

699
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: I was kicking it with doctor. Really, You're like I

700
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: made it. I was like you right here with you

701
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: have been to bres seat too, So you know what

702
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know you're not looking at it like,

703
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: but I still was amazed, Like I said, not how

704
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: to take it in? Now know how to take it in.

705
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: And I can give you what I felt, what I

706
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: thought I felt back then, and what I thought I

707
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: felt back then was this is motherfucking doctor. Drake Dr

708
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: Dre like Dr Dre's my Quincy Jones. Well, because when

709
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: I talked with Jones, I always say, people sho be

710
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: like man like Jay, like be that Quincy Jones. And

711
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: I get why Jay said, you know, produce for me

712
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: and be mak us you know, give us that you know,

713
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: give ja like be the young Quincy like he should

714
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: try to preach that to me all the time. And

715
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: being in young Quincy is making smart moves, like when

716
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: you got a beautiful record, you gotta know where to

717
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: place that beautiful record, not be stubborn and caught in

718
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: your ways and be like, oh that's my record. You

719
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: gotta Quincy. You don't know how to place beautiful music

720
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: with beautiful people. And Dr Dre was the god of wrap.

721
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: Say that I know New York No, no no. When

722
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: he touched rap, he made rap sound. He made it

723
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: sound so clean like he actually mixed. He did not

724
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: brag about it, he did not talk about it other

725
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: people talk. So to hear word with not to drink

726
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: people like he's going to speak. And that's how I

727
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: was because I want to know, like yo, how you

728
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: mix that drum, how you get the drum sound so

729
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: obviously he was a fan of n w A. All right, yeah,

730
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: that goes without saying so now let now listen. So

731
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: now look on n w A. Um, there's a line

732
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: where easy he says, Ice Cu rites the rhymes that

733
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: I say, point blanks, straight out frivously says it it

734
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: missed to it. So what that was there? Nowadays? People

735
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: the screwed I don't know if that's a word screwed.

736
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: They flipped on Drake for the same exact thing. And

737
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: here's one of the greatest groups of all time. What

738
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: is the difference between that Timperland being Okay, so you

739
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: asking me the Lucien Fox, So you asked the guy

740
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: who prot finds the superstars with the superpowers. Because I

741
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: heard that, We've heard it. So I think Drake told

742
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: you I'm I'm resilient for real. People need to really

743
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: look at what that word resilient means. I don't know

744
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: what that means for me and I really don't either

745
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: looking up, But that word so brilliant, and I can

746
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: what does he say? I mean he could like he

747
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: could withstand anything basically, okay, like and said that's how

748
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: I took it. So when I said, wow, when I

749
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: looked it up. It said that, and more so when

750
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: you look at Drake, he's like, yeah, okay, he's like

751
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: Black Panther. I don't know where you're gonna How did

752
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: Black Panther come in in the world? It was a shock? Right,

753
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: didn't shock you by stomp? What did it do? A building?

754
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: Like the movie? Listen to the character. Listen to the character.

755
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: The character, he's like a new character. He's like the Okay,

756
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say, He's like the equivalent to

757
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: Black Panther. He came in out of nowhere, and but

758
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: you worked through them earlier, very very early, so he

759
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: was already in the bill to where he was about

760
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: to be. So what I so you asked me the

761
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: question of why they trip it because he's the next

762
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: biggest thing. How many times they trip on jay Z?

763
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: It's just the topic of gold right and all that.

764
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: But music is music? Why do I don't know? Like

765
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not a rapper, and I tell people

766
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: I can't really I look at rappers like Avengers of movie.

767
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: Character like, who's the next character? He to me is

768
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: like the next Black Path. That's why I say Black Path.

769
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: You're I look at like he came in like people

770
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: gonna try to pick apart or he didn't do this

771
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: why he got the necklace. So it's like he's that

772
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: new character. You know what I'm saying that he's great

773
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: at what do he do? He do it with so

774
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: much class, so much pride. I mean, you know, but

775
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: when I say you worked through them early on, you

776
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: worked at them really really mixtape, I mean, how did

777
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: you know? How did you like? How does the do

778
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: like you even know? That's not all mean, that's like

779
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: that's you. I'm gonna tell you that's that's that's being

780
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: around eight jedies and then that Jedi. The other Jedi

781
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: was jay Z. Jay Z knew he know because you

782
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: did together, you and Jed. I'm off that was the

783
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: first record, but he knew when he knew was that

784
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: the first record? Though I'm on point at my own point.

785
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: When I'm on point, God damn, I'm get like now

786
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm getting hype, now come on and get shot that

787
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: and talking about I don't know what the earth, But

788
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: I just know that jay Z knew he was the

789
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: next one. Just like he called fifty six wait wait wait,

790
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: wait to meet j J called this is a lot

791
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: you're giving us right now. Stay stay on, Drake for now.

792
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm even gonna go back to please remind us to

793
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: go back. So did what did he say? He said,

794
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: he's just like me. He said, I'm putting this young

795
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: this young boy, the kid from Canada like this young boys.

796
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 1: And it's early. It's not like it's already got about

797
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: when you When I go back and listen to him,

798
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: he's one of us. He's a genius to me. You

799
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Jake. The way Jay articulate things,

800
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: the way he talks, the way he strategized life, where

801
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: he moved even his braves. Now you know what I'm everything.

802
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just honest, got twist. Now, I love

803
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: it because Ja like a black eystyle. Let's make some noise. Fact,

804
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: jay Z. He look like a black eyestein. Little people

805
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: like the culture. That's what he's he looked like. And

806
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: he's music. He's like he's like a mote. He's like

807
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: Einstein to music. That's what I said, baby, And he

808
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: he is. He's so brilliant and it's like he knows

809
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: somebody else he knows. He's a separate elliot. Jay Z's

810
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: a separate he knows who fit in his alien group.

811
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: But but let's take it so hid when he heard

812
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Drake he said off that he probably said no bump

813
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: off that he heard Drake before. You're like, oh, he's special.

814
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, he got j Cole. Yeah, which

815
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: is crazy because for him to have seen that, he

816
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: saw that super okay smart. It took a minute for

817
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: Jacob to really he smart. He knows smart people because

818
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: like but he but like, that's why when I go

819
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: to jail, I play him somebody is smart and like

820
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: he that's I know he because because when he just

821
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: I guess he knows how they are as a person

822
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: when he hears them rap. I feel like I tried

823
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: to say, well, how do you know this person is

824
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: gonna be big? I guess when you hear the rap,

825
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: you can hear the who that person is and um

826
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: in their rap, you know what I'm saying. Like, but

827
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: then today's wrapped. You'll be shocked because you'll find somebody

828
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: doing something that did. You might like, no, this poor

829
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: is crazy, but then you go to talk to him.

830
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: He wanted the smartest kids, and you'd be like, wow,

831
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: music has definitely did the flip floppers. But he is

832
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: the leader of this generation. Um he is. He is

833
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: like the leader. He can go like he's the o

834
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: G like three kids like he is that guy. Big

835
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: up my man, forty, big up Drake, goddamn big up

836
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: my Canada. Niggers pick up most of my other nigger

837
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: name Belly know the other dude for this that one

838
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: I know, belly chops chops. Um, he picked them up. Man.

839
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: I love to see O G s, especially the O

840
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: G slash veterans giving. Yeah, this is this is a

841
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: tradition for the show, just for the show. Listen. I

842
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: don't know if you know, don't listen work. I don't

843
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: know if you know all the hip hop shows, they

844
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: just they listen at our hip hop show, we celebrate

845
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: all legends. We give them their flowers when they could

846
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: smell them, give them their thoughts when they can tell

847
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: them you get a need, drinks where they can take them,

848
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: they can take him. So goddamn. That's definitely different. And

849
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I hated every time y'all gave

850
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: me some ship man ship. The terrible commination Young so

851
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Jorans first album, Jenior Wants first album, Junior wants not

852
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: on correct these people come to you and says, I

853
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: need to understand how it's about that. Let me break

854
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: this down. Okay, I'm back then, I am young. I

855
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: am enjoying the moment. I don't know ship about why

856
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,959
Speaker 1: and what. I didn't know. We had a run, let's

857
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: keep it running. And you know what I'm saying, like,

858
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: if if I know what I know now, I would

859
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: have been like, wait man, wait man, we got something, y'all.

860
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: We gotta focus because we got we got it by

861
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: people talking about it. But we were so glad to

862
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: be It was like it's almost like slavery, dude, like

863
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: common Well, we were from Virginia. To be accepted was

864
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: the biggest thing into not you know, you could be

865
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: accepted and then be thrown back into the bushes. So

866
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: we were trying to stay afloat. We weren't thinking like

867
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: this sound. We just know we had a sound that

868
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: was different and we knew that people it would make

869
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: people uncomfortable, but you enjoyed later. That's what we knew.

870
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: That's what you went in to. That we had a sound.

871
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: Back in Rochester with Davante, we all had a sound.

872
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: We was a crew. We had a sound about jod C. Yeah, yeah,

873
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: how did that? How did that? Let's let's let's stack

874
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: one first. He came from that so but he's from

875
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: Virginia to this jod C from DC South bast but

876
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: it's all close. It's right there. Yes, it's next day.

877
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty clol South. You don't don't do that.

878
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: I thought that's new disrespect Southeast d C with j Beach.

879
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: So it's not safe to say Baltimore as well. Throw

880
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: it on the that you're gonna say Baltimore O d C.

881
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: They're it's gonna be it's we Baltimore, we be more

882
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: we d C. It's just it's no B. But it's

883
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: just like, don't put you know. So so so here

884
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna say Brooklyn and Queen you know say no,

885
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: we're Brooklyn. Well, if I'm from Miamie, I'm gonna say

886
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: it's like York, I'm just saying no. You gonna say no, no,

887
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: Liberty City is Liberty City. No, no, no over town

888
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: And you can't tell me that in Miami. And I'm

889
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna divide it up from is that what I'm saying?

890
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: Like k mac did man it's like, but everybody was

891
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: listening to Go Go in those areas. I guess go

892
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: Go Google. I connected all y'all because we don't have

893
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: the Miami to listen to go North Carolina, North Carolina.

894
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: How the hell jo to see Devonte? How did you? Missy? Missy?

895
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: Missy was in a group called phay Z and Missy

896
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: I was a producer for fa Z. So Missy met

897
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: Devonte in the backstage, you know, like, this's this the

898
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: luck of a draw. She met them, she played the music.

899
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: Davante flew them up to Jersey. They said she wanted

900
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: to fly the producer up. He said, cool. I came

901
00:52:52,480 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: up there and I stayed up there my sound. So

902
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: you're working with Devonte, working with them, and they introduced

903
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: you to Genuine yep, because he met Genuine the same

904
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: way through a concert. So genuine I mean, so Devonte

905
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: actually built my crew. Think about it? I had static

906
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: before Static Distatic Major who wrote Lollipop for a Little

907
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: White he wrote try again. So Devonte really kind of like,

908
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: it's funny, I gotta work because the Bonte built a

909
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: crew for himself when it was actually for me. Do

910
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: you think about it? Because he didn't work with no

911
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: th it was me. Wow, But he found all the

912
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: talent for me. So he found who was the talent?

913
00:53:48,920 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: Genuine static missy. Um. Yeah, that's enough, that's more. It's

914
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: all right. So how did this happen? I did Mistand

915
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm just I just told you

916
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: when nutshells like I was a guy under the missy,

917
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Missy brought me in like you do, like y'all gotta

918
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 1: do the math like that. It's just it's the universe, man,

919
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: how it's meant to be. You know what I'm saying,

920
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: Like I could be on this show and from this

921
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: show A thousand producers called me or this person called

922
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: me the inhibition man. It's like, it's what it is,

923
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: and that's what. And DeVante brought somebody, he built something

924
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 1: and which was posted probably be for him. I wind

925
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: up doing all the records for them. So what was

926
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: How was it like working with Ginia wacause you didn't

927
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: know he wasn't like Virginia like working with us. I thought, right, well,

928
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: it's a putting. He put us together. You know what

929
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying. What I'm saying, DeVante is building a squad

930
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: for himself, but he actually building it for me. I'm

931
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: the guy who's doing a hundred beats to night. So

932
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: they're coming in the studio. Yeah, I'm in the studio

933
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: from Virginia. I ain't got no studio. I'm having a

934
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: ball and I got a call to Yeah, I'm having

935
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: a ball. So I'm knocking beats out there in there

936
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: with me. I'm building, I'm creating the sound. M dare

937
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: you have it? And did as curls back then, I

938
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I think because I wanted I'm trying to

939
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: picture the studio seeing. Yeah, I'm trying to vat you like,

940
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: did you ask girls? Didn't? I only introduced the videos.

941
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I just wanted to make a

942
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: record and give my mom a three thousand dollars. I

943
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: ain't know about nothing about no video. When that stuff

944
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: came out, I was fun onto, like, oh man, people

945
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: don't real. Okay, I'm a country boy. I was like,

946
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, you know, I'm like, dude, you

947
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: know the hell I'm like, Okay, that's cool, that's dope. Okay,

948
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: I'll made some crazy records. Okay. Now, now you just

949
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: did a battle with Swiss Speeds. We didn't do the

950
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: battle yet, but it was somewhat of a battle. Some

951
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: of it's called Instagram talk. What would you call call

952
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: called I talk? That was wanted the derivative of drink champs.

953
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that started on this. Yeah that started here.

954
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that. That's cool. It

955
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: didn't start here. It ain't the same whole whole thing.

956
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: Maybe sho maybe should begin here, that's what That's what

957
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He didn't start. I felt like you. I

958
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: felt like when we seem the actual battle, I felt

959
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: like it was unfair, even though I'm from New York.

960
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: I felt it was unfair because you know, he was

961
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: playing a lot of New York records with New York artists,

962
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: because that's just a summer jam. Correct. So um, how

963
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: did you feel about that? I thought you had fun.

964
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: You was out there having fun. But yeah, that's how

965
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: I thought was. I mean, we played a lot of it.

966
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: We couldn't. I think it was me and Swiss look

967
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: at it like this. It's not a battle. It's a reminder,

968
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: don't ever forget who we are. And Swiss speaks like

969
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: when people might have doubted, oh he ain't got none

970
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: or people say, oh Timbo gud dudes, no, no, no,

971
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: no no, I'm on stage with my friend. He's my friend.

972
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: We had just as much accolles, but it's just it's me.

973
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,959
Speaker 1: So when we play songs back to back, it gave

974
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: people a reminder. I don't think people knew how to

975
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: judge it. It won't no judge and people like people like,

976
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: damn we played that Beyonce after Yeah he did that.

977
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: It was more of a remind Does that play with

978
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: the Game of Thrones? You know what I'm saying, Like

979
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: we could go all night and it's like people don't

980
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: realize the history that we had. Would you do that

981
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: with for Frol that's my brother. Of course, we can't

982
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: wait to play records because to us it is like

983
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: it could never be a battle, but the battle will be.

984
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: People will always judge it as That was my last question.

985
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: Without doing I's gonna because he he has to set

986
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: up the summons, but always at the table and say

987
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: him yeah, like he like, you know, what, what's that movie?

988
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: What's the Warlocks? And he'll be like the speller, like

989
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, I love the respect he shows. Dr Dreke

990
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: What it would it wouldn't be a battle, will be fun.

991
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: It'll be chess like pawn like chess. Like we're playing songs.

992
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: It's like checkmate. Besides Dr Dre, if you was to

993
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: go head to head with anybody else in this game,

994
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: would you ever be worried? Like besides Dre like worried

995
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: Like it's like song for song, I don't okay, So

996
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: it's it's two different legacy, say Teddy Wiling. Let's say, uh,

997
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: track for track. You know what I think when I

998
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: think it's healthy for all of us to do that,

999
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: You know why, because it really lets you know how

1000
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: far you really come and how you know. It lets

1001
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: you know your beginning of your journey and where it's

1002
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: really like a self a self moment thing where you'd

1003
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: be like I quit. Then you'd be like, damn, my

1004
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,959
Speaker 1: ship was I thought it was just longer. It won't

1005
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: that long. It's kind of like a reflection of who

1006
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: you are. But you know what I'm saying, Like when

1007
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: I when we play our music and our heads and

1008
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: be like, man, why I stopped here? You know that's

1009
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: how I look at it. Somebody might look at it different.

1010
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: I would get like that was it that I'm not

1011
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: even listening to other dude that they play right like

1012
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: two oh man, I gotta pick it up, like you

1013
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying.

1014
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it, is like the journey

1015
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: must continue, you know. He's like, look how I thought

1016
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: we came and see if we're still relevant right now?

1017
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: How are working with Little Wayne? The Wayne right now

1018
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: has uh quarterfi quarter fly. Um. I'm gonna be honest,

1019
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody take off this long come back

1020
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: and his fans stay right there like they were right

1021
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: there like ready to line up, and just like I've

1022
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: never seen it. Like you know in this game, you take,

1023
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: you take two and a half years off those ACCCO

1024
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: is in your bad spot. I mean you're talking about

1025
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: young money. Yeah, I know that you're talking about Nicki Minaj,

1026
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: but even Eminem. Let's let's look even Eminem like I'm

1027
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: gonna go back here. They came back and hearing me

1028
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: definitely not. I'm doctor darre can put the record out

1029
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: right now and people don't go crazy. Certainly it's gonna

1030
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: be his fan base because of what he left, Like

1031
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: Little Wayne left a mark, right I just think little

1032
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: Wayne's on the Wayne. Then he got, then he he signed,

1033
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: he signed the he signed the next person in this

1034
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: generation to be like him, which is Drake or Nicki

1035
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: Mina like those. He got two heavy hitters that keep

1036
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: him alive. Like it's not about him rapping sometimes, it's

1037
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: about the decisions he made, like you know, look at

1038
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: look what he look. I'm telling you, I'm great. He's great,

1039
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: She's great, And y'all paid attention. So it kept you,

1040
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: It kept you, It kept Wayne on your mind when

1041
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: when he didn't do nothing, I mean he blessed man.

1042
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: He got a gift. Wayne, gotta he can wrap right now. Um,

1043
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to say this to the very end and

1044
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: then guy, I'm gonna get into my whole questions and

1045
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: then we're gonna go wrap it up. But so, how

1046
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: did you initially meet Eliah? Because I know we spoke

1047
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: about her in the beginning, Like how was my lawyer

1048
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: Louise West at that time, my lawyer was Louise West.

1049
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: She introduced the families to each other, which was Aliyah's

1050
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: family with you know uncle Mike, he rest in peace,

1051
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: he passed away. Um, that was the introduction. There was

1052
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: Louise West. How was the Craig Craig Coleman, Craig Coleman. Yeah,

1053
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: it was Louise West and Craig Coleman. Craig, Craig get

1054
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: the man and create no music. Man, He's gonna find

1055
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: a way to dig yourself like he if he if,

1056
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: he gonna know now, he's gonna figure out. He gonna

1057
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: figure out what's hot now. He was a DJ. He

1058
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: was a serious DJ. So Craig got he got good

1059
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 1: ear is man, he got great ears, and Craig had

1060
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: I had a sound. He introduced us made the link.

1061
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: But it was Louisa gave Creig the demo of me

1062
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: and Missy to play Poor Leah that Leah Like. And

1063
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: then those sessions and see's from Detroit Detroit and y'all Lincoln, Virginia, Detroit,

1064
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Lincoln Detroit. Yeah, and your first session was

1065
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: my first session we did records. But then out of

1066
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: that first session came one of a million, and then

1067
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: the second session came if your girl only knew Wow,

1068
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: the first and second s the first session can't want

1069
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: the million, which is crazy, meaning that that won the

1070
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: first song in the first meaning like before we left

1071
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: we did one in the million. Okay, so we did

1072
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: other songs prior to won't like that was like, I'm

1073
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: not trying to make myself like no superhero like I

1074
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: just the first song I did one a million that

1075
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: was at the You don't think that's in the first

1076
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: session made won the million. That's enough by but you

1077
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Then the second one was if

1078
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: you girls in there, all right? Cool? Now you've got

1079
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: like a triple album with jay Z. I've looked so

1080
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: when I do interviews, we we pull up everything. So

1081
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: you got you got the list. I'm gonna just name

1082
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: out some certain songs. You just tell me these certain

1083
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: sessions with you and Jams right during off show. This

1084
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: is this is one of them. All you can watch

1085
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: out on the Black album. Come on, no, we told

1086
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: you in the movie. No, this is a millennials. This

1087
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: is what new millennials right now. We gotta you want

1088
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: to see it on the Black people never see him

1089
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: on here. So there your shows. How did this come about? It?

1090
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: Just like all that thing, I mean, let's post these

1091
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: fourteen year olds who listened to us, who don't listen

1092
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: to these motherfucker's. But it's on the movie. I'm gonna

1093
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: tell you to same thing in the movie like I wanted.

1094
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: He came down. It was the exact I had to beat.

1095
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I knew that beat was five and there

1096
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: it was. And the beauty about that that was the

1097
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: first time he captured the moment that can't be explained

1098
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: on film, and you can watch it the old Phil

1099
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't know every time watchar timilar fans. You don't

1100
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: explave to these people, the dumb fans. The Blade the

1101
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: Black the Black, it's on the movie. You want for

1102
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: albums four four four on of fans. They're kind of

1103
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: slow fans, come on, just continued, I don't think that's

1104
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: his first album, not just Fade the Black, Fade the Black.

1105
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: That movie kind of he captured. So it's like he

1106
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: it was the perfect time and said, look when people

1107
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: have can go shore, I said, watch paper they on.

1108
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: He asked me about that, said, man, I watched Fade

1109
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: to Black Man we went Darrell show. I said, day,

1110
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: thank you, because I got this play. It's on camera.

1111
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: Everything is caught on camera, and people want to know more.

1112
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: It's like, no more, Okay, then how about big pimping

1113
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: you g K because at this time it's definitely not

1114
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: known in the New York area. Maybe Okay, it's gonna

1115
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: be real short and so goodhead cool. That was a

1116
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 1: track I was saving for Tim and Magoo me being

1117
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: sharpers and because I'm thinking I was on my I

1118
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: was on my sharpness right, and I was like, this

1119
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: ship bigger than me, this ship bigger than you, bigger

1120
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: than me. I told him when he's walking he's about

1121
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 1: to leave studio, I told him, and man, I gotta

1122
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: be don't want to play. I don't want to play

1123
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: it for you, but he took him before heats the studio.

1124
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm like you, I don't want to play the beat

1125
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: for you, but I know it's for you, so I'm

1126
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna play. So I played he take off his jacket,

1127
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: hip hop take off day Jack's like, oh, J face

1128
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: lit up and hip hop with it, say big him

1129
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: and Do said we're on something, and Jay said, I

1130
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: see the mark was automatic that you came would be

1131
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: on that record or now at that point that track.

1132
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: J took time with that track. He didn't do this

1133
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: like Hi, jay Z do it. This was he took

1134
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: his time with that record. And you can tell because

1135
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: look at what it's so weve got sued over this ship?

1136
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: How did that lawsuit ended up? Just production? You know,

1137
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't like the brag, but you know, like you know,

1138
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: we walked out of there. You know, I just believe

1139
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: that it was good. It was good. But you know

1140
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because it was I just think the

1141
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: injury of the song. It was not done in the malice. Wait,

1142
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like we was

1143
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: trying to get over. I paid you know what I'm saying.

1144
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: The sample. Yeah, it's like I paid you that I

1145
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: don't know I paid. So that's how I paid whatever.

1146
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: There you go, and then they tried to come back afterwards. Yeah,

1147
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: you know it's beauty. It the song is beautiful. Man

1148
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 1: Like when something is so beautiful, you know you're gonna

1149
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be evil around the corner, you know

1150
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that song is beautiful, and you

1151
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: know it was made out of love. It's like when

1152
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: jay Z did that, I saw the love in his

1153
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: face to track put a smile on his face, Like

1154
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: I saw that this was that one for him. You

1155
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I saw like this what's gonna

1156
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: make can think? Like I know, jay Z's a he's

1157
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: a person who likes to read. If he if he

1158
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 1: ever texts you the way he texts, he's very short,

1159
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: so smart. He texts you he's I'm telling you man,

1160
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: he's like John Q. I'm telling you now, Holy ground.

1161
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: He only called me. I was in New York. Dream

1162
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: had the hook already. He he wanted me to remake

1163
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: the beat and I did. I did my part. I

1164
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: didn't Lucien's Fox he wanted. He called me into upgrade

1165
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: the equipment. That's what this did, like a little bit

1166
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: the same you know im same dream had. Dream gave

1167
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: me all the two. She said, this is what you got.

1168
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: I said, all right to me up leave a little

1169
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 1: my my hard drive. Whoop, whoop. There it is and

1170
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: me not just me by myself. Jerome Jay Rock. He

1171
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 1: was great. He called it. He was like my side partner.

1172
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: He was my you know, not not gonna say my assistant.

1173
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: And I like to say my partner because at that

1174
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: time he was my partner. And he when I needed

1175
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: assistant on this particular project. I'm gonna when he happens

1176
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: to uh, I wanted to uh. I needed some keys.

1177
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: He knew how to elevate, so he was a great

1178
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: partner at that time. Okay, now I'm gonna go on more.

1179
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: Is that your bitch? I think that's a I had

1180
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: that track and I gave it to Puff originally, but

1181
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: ye time, what I think I think I gave it

1182
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: to I was. I believe it was a Puff but

1183
01:10:52,840 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: Puff Daddy, Yeah, I believe, I think so. But he

1184
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 1: turned that down. He didn't turn it down. I think

1185
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: he was late. I think maybe I might have been

1186
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: just playing music to be playing and jay zs just

1187
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: held at me. You know. That was like but when

1188
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: he did the rap, It's like, oh man, he fitted

1189
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: did you call Puff and tell him it's a rap? Yeah?

1190
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: I mean, how did you do that? How did that

1191
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: phone go out? Did the record just come out? That

1192
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: was a messy system way because I I didn't. That

1193
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: was the first thing, like, oh man, what do I do?

1194
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But that wasn't me being

1195
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: young and naive and not understanding the ethics of business

1196
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: and jumping the gun, you know, And I learned my lesson.

1197
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: Nothing major happened, But just like I don't like to

1198
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: have confusion, and music. I don't like to have one

1199
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 1: person upset with me because I get another person something

1200
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: that I didn't know their treasure, you know what I'm saying.

1201
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: So it just business ethics came in, like when you

1202
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: do something, you know, have your word and or do

1203
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: the right way. Would be another temple in the Magoo Procectgo.

1204
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: That's the only person we ain't talking about talk about

1205
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: anybody else that was like he Magoo was my friend.

1206
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: So it was like it was a fun thing and

1207
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: it was fun to do because he was like the

1208
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: down south que tip almost yeah, I guess he was

1209
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: like Flex told me that today he was like he

1210
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: was like cute tip Um. He said he was my friend.

1211
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: He's my friend, Maxim. Sorry, I tried to make I mean,

1212
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: he's my friend. You know. That was something that we

1213
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: did that was a dream or a passion of ours

1214
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: and we did it. But it wasn't meant to be

1215
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: one or two or three or four with something that

1216
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: like we're doing for fun. Yeah, and it happened right

1217
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: then we get paid for it and the funding was

1218
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: worth while at a moment, I think it was well, Timberland,

1219
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: we just want you to know we salute our legends.

1220
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: We in our game that's every ten years. These people

1221
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: want to ride you off and they want to say

1222
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: you're over, and they want to say no matter if

1223
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: you're getting money or not. And in this game, I

1224
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: want to reverse that. I want to change that. I

1225
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: want you to people to know that you know the

1226
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: black of the very, that sweet of the juice. You

1227
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The older you get, the older

1228
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: you're loose. And the older you don't get old because

1229
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: you stop playing. You get old. Of course you stop playing.

1230
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: It's a different generation and we're the O G S.

1231
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: And we got to figure out how to translate that

1232
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: to the new genes, to the new generation. And I

1233
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: understand it now. It's like the problem with us. We

1234
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: always criticize so much. But when we was young, win

1235
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: criticize nothing. And when you look at Takai six nine,

1236
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: and these people are great, man, pick them up. You

1237
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: know they all, they all, they are great artists. Let

1238
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: them be who they're gonna be. Let's watch, let's watch

1239
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: their journey. And some way Quincy Jones watched all the

1240
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: people he produced and he looked back at it and

1241
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: he was like, man, I produced all these people and

1242
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: they all died. And I'm not I'm not saying that

1243
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: about a new generation. But let's just watch their journey

1244
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: and see what happened and hand down that information over here.

1245
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: And if they they're taken, if they don't want it,

1246
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: that's on them. And it's not fun because they made

1247
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: great music to me. And then you would have changed,

1248
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: if people ever would have started over anything you would

1249
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: like to change. I just should have been more alert

1250
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to business and not let the fund

1251
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: get in a way. It should have been more, you know,

1252
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: just alert a lot of things. You know, you know,

1253
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: we're young, we're doing me we you know what I'm saying.

1254
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: And I'm still y'all you still, I'm still but I'm

1255
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. But I didn't come from that world.

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Speaker 1: So when everything moving fast, I just, you know, should

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Speaker 1: have slowed it down at my pace. And you're in

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Speaker 1: the gym, crazy, what's your trainer? Hooked me up doing

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Speaker 1: this job? You know? For real, you're looking very young?

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Speaker 1: How is that? How is that you know, getting on

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Speaker 1: and getting into the gym and what makes you sparking

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Speaker 1: and do that? It was because I read I've seen

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Speaker 1: a room or where people were quitting because they was

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Speaker 1: hanging with Dr Dre being the engineers, and Dre would

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Speaker 1: make his engineers and his assisted go to the studio

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Speaker 1: and if people were quit and I've never heard of that,

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Speaker 1: are you like that? The yeah, he would make them

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Speaker 1: go to the gym like filming and all type of

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Speaker 1: ship because you gotta be a machine like we all.

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Speaker 1: So your engineer, your assisted, everybody gotta do the same.

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Speaker 1: I got my own legenda, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And I got a partner, my girl, and my partner

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Speaker 1: pick up your girl and we do everything. Man, We

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Speaker 1: like on the New Incredibles. Goddamnit, the Incredibles with the

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Speaker 1: red suit long niggers all give me how fine the Incredibles?

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Speaker 1: So you and your lady is the new Incredibles? That can?

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Speaker 1: We do everything together? I seen y'all to Jay Z

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Speaker 1: and Beyonce concert, y'all was over there. Gucci down, y'all now,

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Speaker 1: I seen you Gucci down to me? Is she here

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Speaker 1: right now? Okay? And I was like the club car

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Speaker 1: that correct, it was club car, club car works? She work? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we do everything together. This is so beautiful, all doesn't

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Speaker 1: I'm married I'm marriedn't make some noise for me. I

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Speaker 1: can make my mad. He's gonna give two all give me.

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Speaker 1: I'm goddamn marriage. Give me marriage Backsten. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: beautiful to show hip hop growing up because back in

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Speaker 1: the days, in the nineties, we're talking about sucking all

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Speaker 1: these niggas. Ain't sucking these businesses right now. I think

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Speaker 1: it's this old man my knees. First of all, you

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Speaker 1: don't want we thank too much, you know. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I don't like I'm comfortable. Listen,

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Speaker 1: Atlantic records ain't fit. Atlantic records back a personal party

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Speaker 1: today and I said, Yo, got up my knees hurt it.

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry, No, I don't hurt. I just

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Speaker 1: don't want to do that. I want to fox like

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Speaker 1: me and my girl. We're in incredible we can't be

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Speaker 1: seen everywhere. That's oh god damn it. I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: using that because le's come take that. I'm like, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest sometimes the older you know, that's

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Speaker 1: why I love four four four is four four four

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Speaker 1: actually reflected a grown man. Yeah, but they but the

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Speaker 1: kids ain't gonna be that till later. That's why I'm

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Speaker 1: less for for the kids. Correct, it's for them. It's

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Speaker 1: the Bible for them. Don't get it, it's the Bible.

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Speaker 1: And I can leave on that note. Jay Z left

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Speaker 1: the Bible. He left the Book of Eli for this generation.

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Speaker 1: That's four four four goddamn. Make some t the pictures

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Speaker 1: in the goddamn. I thank you so much. Sim This

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Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, I think if I go to Jim