1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Tuesday, July twenty ninth, 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I'm your host, Cynthia Littleton. I am 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: co editor in chief of Variety alongside Ramin Setuda. I'm 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: in LA He's in New York, and Variety has reporters 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: around the world covering the business of entertainment. In today's episode, 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: we'll talk with Brent Lang, executive editor of Variety who 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: leads all film coverage. He talks about the executive shakeups 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: on the film side at Sony Pictures, which was prompted 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: by the move of a senior executive to Paramount, and Paramount, 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: as listeners of this podcast know, is on the cusp 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: of many big changes. And then I will offer a 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: short tutorial on Variety's proud history of making up our 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: own words. We call it slanguage. But before we get 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: to that, here are a few headlines just in this 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: morning that you need to know. Nilsen's second quarter TV 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: viewing numbers are in and they show that ad supported 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: platforms still account for nearly seventy four percent of all 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: viewing in the US. Streaming platforms account for a little 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: more than forty five percent of all viewing. Broadcast networks 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: are at about twenty six percent, and cable is nearly 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: thirty percent. Overall viewing is down nine percent from Q one. 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: That's summertime for you, Darman, Mark Roeber and a handful 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: of other prominent YouTubers have signed fast channel deals with 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: Samsung TV plus. This feels like a harbinger of deals 26 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: to come. Spotify's posted strong second quarter subscriber growth with 27 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: its earnings report this morning. Spotify Premium subscribers jump twelve 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: percent euro over year to two hundred and seventy six 29 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: million worldwide, but the streamer still posted a net loss 30 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: for the frame. Now we turn to conversations with variety 31 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: journalists about news and trends in show business. Brent Lang 32 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: discusses the executive shuffling across two studios, Sony Pictures and 33 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: Paramount Pictures, and we talk about the overall mood in 34 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: the film business amid promising summer box office numbers. Brent Lang, 35 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me, Thanks for having me. 36 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: The industry woke up Monday morning to news of an 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: executive shakeup, not at the very top of Sony Pictures, 38 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: but are reshuffling in the middle film ranks. And that 39 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: really felt like a part two to news that broke 40 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: over the weekend about Josh Greenstein going to Paramount for 41 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: both studios. What do you think is going on here 42 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: and what is the significance of it? 43 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think mostly this clarifies what everybody had assumed 44 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: was going to happen, which was that Josh was going 45 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: to move over to Paramount. This has been in the 46 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: works for over a year. There's been a lot of 47 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: rumors that he was leaving. And what it does is 48 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: it just formalizes that Sanford Panich is going to remain 49 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: at the studio as president of the Motion Picture Group. 50 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: He was co president with Josh. And then it also 51 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: elevates Peter Kang, who has been at the studio i 52 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: think for five or six years, to be in charge 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: of production, which is a very large role that kind 54 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: of oversees the kind of the day to day operations 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: of all the different things that are filming. And of 56 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: course Tom Rothman, who's a legendary studio head who's become 57 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: the elder statesman of Hollywood. He's done a very good 58 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: job of figuring out where Sony and its film division 59 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: should sit in a very complicated landscape. And what he's 60 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: realized is that the studio could be very well positioned 61 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: to be a seller of content to the various streamers 62 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: as opposed to spending the capital and the time launching 63 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: their own in house streaming service. So he did a 64 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: really able job of doing that. And then he's done 65 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,559 Speaker 2: a pretty good job of building up Sony's library of franchises, 66 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: because that's always been something that they have suffered with 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: in comparison to some of the other major studios. 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: For sure, Sony under Rothman has left no doubt about 69 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: where they stand. They are very, very committed to the 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: theatrical experience. So with Josh Greenstein going over to Paramount, 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: he had been co head of the Motion Picture group 72 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: under Tom Rothman, the co head with Sandford Panich. Now 73 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: Sandford is now solo head. He's of course a long 74 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: time colleague of Rothman. He was at Fox and then 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: came to join him later at Sony. Were there any 76 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: factors there that surprised you. 77 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: He's a very close confidant of Tom Rothman. Sanford was 78 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: known for the creative connections for overseeing budgets things of 79 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: that nature, whereas Josh really he came up through marketing. 80 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: He's a very well respected marketer. I assume there will 81 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: be questions about whether or not at some point they 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: will hire someone to build that role. 83 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: Let's shift the question now to Paramount, which is in 84 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: the midst of a transition. So, Brent, my question for 85 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: you about Josh Greenstein's move move to Paramount. The Paramount 86 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: Skydance Media merger is expected to close by August seventh. 87 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot in transition there right now. Why would 88 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: he be hired for this senior role before there's even 89 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: clarity as to who's going to be doing what at 90 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: Paramount Pictures and of other divisions. What are you hearing 91 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: about the scope of his job. 92 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure that Skydance was happy that Josh's 93 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: hire got out this early. It was an open secret 94 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: in Hollywood, which you know, obviously, nothing stays secret Raylan 95 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: in Hollywood. My sense is that his role will not 96 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: be exactly what Brian Robbins was doing, and that his 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: purview may move beyond just movies. I don't know if 98 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: that means that it will involve streaming as well. Because 99 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: sky Dance has also hired Cindy Holland, who ran TV 100 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: at Netflix for a while, so they have a very 101 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: strong person there. I think Dana Goldberg, who is their 102 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: chief creative officer at Skydance, is going to have a 103 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: very big role at the merged company. So it's a 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: little unclear, but assume that part of what they are 105 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: hoping Josh will do is bring some of that marketing 106 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: expertise to their overall operations. 107 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: What is your sense in the film business the Paramount's 108 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: Guidance merger. After a lot of obstacles, it does actually 109 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: look like it's getting to the finish line. Do you 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: think is there hope in the business that's guidanced that 111 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: this influx will restore Paramount to something like it's for 112 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: former Glory as a Hollywood major studio. The sense optimism 113 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: or is there still sort of a pessimism that, Wow, 114 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: this company really has a long road to go now. 115 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: I think that people are glad that there's stability, and 116 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: then they're also glad that Paramount wasn't just sold to 117 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: another film studio where it would have just been folded 118 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: into those operations, and probably that would have meant fewer 119 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: films and there will be terrible layoffs because of this merger, 120 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: but it would have been even more extreme if it 121 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: had been part of a pre existing studio. So I 122 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: think there's a sense of relief there. So I think 123 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: the idea that somebody with his deep pockets as David 124 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: Ellison and Larry Ellison are coming in here could help 125 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: with some of those concerns. I do think that the 126 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: way that this merger was approved, the settlement that happened 127 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: with the Trump administration over CBS News, some of the 128 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: comments to gain the approval of the FCC about DEI 129 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: I think there are some concerns. Hollywood is a very 130 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: liberal town. I think there's some worries that artists will 131 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: not be respected, and so I think there's going to 132 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: be some thing of a charm offensive that needs to happen. 133 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: That said, you know, if people are willing to green 134 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: light passion projects, if they're willing to support them, something 135 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: tells me that even if someone has some political objections 136 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: to maybe how this happened, they'll be able to suck 137 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: it up and make movies there. 138 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: I suspect you'll see, like as is often the case, 139 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: after merger, some flashy moves to show hey, we mean business. 140 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: This is what we're going to do. This is what 141 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: we're going to bring to the table. Absolutely, you to 142 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: step back a few more feet and look kind of 143 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: in the broader film business. I know from talking to 144 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: Rebecca every Monday for box office reports that year to 145 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: date the box office overall is up about twelve to 146 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: thirteen percent over last year. It's a good sign, and 147 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: the pipeline has been flush. How do you think people 148 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: are feeling in the general sort of the Hollywood and 149 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: New York film business? How do you think people are 150 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: feeling after what has been basically a strong summer. 151 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: I think people are feeling better about the overall health 152 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: of the theatrical space, and there is a sense that 153 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: people still want to see movies in theaters, and they're 154 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: still looking for events in their cultural life, and that's 155 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: something that movies uniquely provide. That's good for cinemas, which 156 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: is good for the overall business. But if you're a studio, 157 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: there are other concerns that you have. One of them 158 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: is that the domestic business is doing much better than 159 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: it has been since COVID, but the overall global marketplace 160 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 2: has really shrunk a lot. China kind of a black hole. 161 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: It used to be one of the strongest markets for movies, 162 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: but tensions with the US and a kind of a 163 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: rise of local language projects and product there has meant 164 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: that that market is not delivering the kind of grosses 165 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: that it was, you know, five six years ago. And 166 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: then Russia, of course, because of what's happened in Ukraine, 167 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: has kind of been offline. That was a fairly major market. 168 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: So when you're looking at a movie like Superman, Superman 169 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: has done very well domestically, it wasn't as much of 170 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: an international play, but it will end up grossing about 171 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: the same globally as Man of Steel did and I 172 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: think twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen, and some of that 173 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: is just a sign of how much smaller that overall 174 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: global marketplace has been. And that's a problem because it's 175 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: not like movies have gotten cheaper to make. Inflation has 176 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: absolutely taken over the movie business. There were COVID delays, 177 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: strike delays, and so most of the these major blockbusters 178 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: cost more than two hundred million dollars to produce, some 179 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: of them even north of three hundred million dollars. And 180 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: because movie theaters keep half of ticket sales. If you're 181 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: going to make money theatrically, which very few movies do, 182 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: you need to double your spending and then add to 183 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: that production budget one hundred to one hundred and fifty 184 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: million dollars in marketing costs. And you're looking at movies 185 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: that are going to just barely break even despite the 186 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: fact that they're making six hundred seven hundred million dollars. 187 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: And so I think everybody in Hollywood is looking at 188 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: this seeing some positive signs, but also realizing that there's 189 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: a real cost problem that they have to get their 190 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: hands around. 191 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: Brent, thank you very much for helping us kind of 192 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: sort through the real politique of what's going on at 193 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: a turbulent time for every part of our business, but 194 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: particularly the business you love so much, the film world. 195 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Next up, I'm happy to introduce 196 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: what will be a recurring segment called Vintage Variety. We 197 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: are not shy about celebrating our storied history and our 198 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: proud legacy and entertainment, so let's step into the wayback machine. 199 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: For one hundred and twenty years in counting, Variety has 200 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: been known for zingy, irreverent headlines and our famous slanguage. Slanguage, 201 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: which is the word language with an S on the front, 202 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: is the glossary of old Variety, its industry jargon that 203 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: we invented soap, opera, sitcom, biopic dj You read those 204 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: words in Variety first. One of my favorites language words 205 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: is tub thump. It means exactly what. It suggests that 206 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: someone is in heavy promotion mode, an actor or a 207 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: director or a studio. It conjures the image of a 208 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: person walking around thumping an upside down washtub to make noise. 209 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: Here's a fun usage from the April seventeenth, nineteen fifty 210 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: two edition of Daily Variety, in a story dateline from Dallas, 211 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: where Humphrey Bogart was promoting his new movie The African Queen. 212 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: Here's the story. Humphrey Bogart, who was out tub thumping 213 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: The African Queen yesterday, finished up in Dallas after visiting 214 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: San Antonio, Houston, Fort Worth, and ten other Texas towns 215 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: end quote. This three paragraph story includes a good example 216 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: of vintage Variety irreverence. It ends with a nod to 217 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: Bogart's reputation as a hard drinking guy. We wrote quote 218 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,479 Speaker 1: Bogart is particularly pleased that, despite the overwhelming Texas hospitality, 219 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: he's resisted all offers of bourbon and branchwater. Instead, he's 220 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: sticking to health giving scotch and plain water. End quote. 221 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: Help you enjoyed this tutorial. More glossary items to come 222 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: as we close out today's episode. Here are a few 223 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: things we're watching for. Jerry Bruckheimer, Matt and Ross Stuffer, 224 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: Catherine Pope of Sony Pictures TV, and Brett Paul of 225 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers TV are among the speakers lined up for 226 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: Variety's Entertainment Technology Summit. The day long event will be 227 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: held in LA on September twenty five. Project Runway is 228 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: back on Thursday on a new network. The fashion design 229 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: competition series debuts Thursday on Freeform. Heidi Klum and Christian 230 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: Siriano are back. Tim Gunn is not before we go. 231 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: Congrats to Jennifer Way. She's joined the music label and 232 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: publishing firm Empire as Executive VP for Nashville. She was 233 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: previously Senior VP of Sony Music Nashville. Thanks for listening. 234 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: This episode was written and reported by me Cynthia Littleton, 235 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: with contributions from Brent Lang. It was edited by Aaron 236 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: Greenwald Stick's Nick's hick Picks. Please leave us a review 237 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: at the podcast platform of your choice, and please tune 238 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: in tomorrow for another episode of Daily Variety.