Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining us on our
Speaker 1: park Hopper episode this week, where we are going to
Speaker 1: be talking to I mean, I guess Dcom royalty in
Speaker 1: the way that En Sync is royalty, that the Backstreet
Speaker 1: Boys is royalty, that any pop star in the early
Speaker 1: aughts is royalty in that we are talking to Jordan
Speaker 1: ky Hill. Yet actually we're not. We're talking to Terarren Killham,
Speaker 1: who of course played Jordan k Hill, the frosted tip
Speaker 1: locker pin up icon from Stuck in the Suburbs, who
Speaker 1: apparently doesn't ever hold his own phone, and who's assistant
Speaker 1: can't tell the difference between his phone and a giant
Speaker 1: pink one.
Speaker 2: Nope, we gotta we gotta ask him about that. I
Speaker 2: really terrible assistant.
Speaker 1: We love that. So if you could do us a
Speaker 1: favor and please help us welcome Taran Killer.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Hello, how are you? I'm good? How are
Speaker 3: you guys?
Speaker 4: Welcome?
Speaker 3: We're good having me.
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been asked to do tons of podcasts
Speaker 1: about like SNL and some of the movies you've done, but.
Speaker 4: Is this the first?
Speaker 1: This is the one peoples, Yeah, people are waiting for.
Speaker 3: There I love that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, we just recapped the movie.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, awesome.
Speaker 2: How long has it been since you've seen Stuck in Suburbs.
Speaker 5: It's been a while. It's been a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say five or six years.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 5: Vanessa Bayer, who I was on SNL with, became very
Speaker 5: obsessed with the fact that I was in this movie
Speaker 5: when I was twenty one, and so for a birthday
Speaker 5: for her, I was able to try down a DVD
Speaker 5: of it and gift that to her, and I think
Speaker 5: that was the last time I watched it. Was like
Speaker 5: for her birthday. For Vanessa Beyer's birthday, we watched Stuck
Speaker 5: in the Suburbs.
Speaker 2: Well, she was like every other girl at that time, Okay,
Speaker 2: obsessed with the movie and with you as Jordan Gale,
Speaker 2: I mean, goes hand in hand. Sure, I can't hate
Speaker 2: her for.
Speaker 5: That, you know, I can't hate her for anything. And
Speaker 5: I've tried really hard.
Speaker 3: I've looked for a lot of reasons to hate for Essa.
Speaker 5: No, I mean, it's so funny the way, and I'm
Speaker 5: sure you have covered this in previous watches or just
Speaker 5: explorations of your your premise in general. But Disney just
Speaker 5: just will replay the heck out of all these movies. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and in a way you know it hasn't died.
Speaker 3: This isn't a thing from the past.
Speaker 5: And because of that anytime I would leave SNL at
Speaker 5: the stage door. Stuck in the Suburbs was probably the
Speaker 5: thing I was asked about the most.
Speaker 2: Ohow, we were gonna have amazing people are coming up
Speaker 2: to you a lot. It's true amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware of this. There's been
Speaker 1: a huge resurgence in the love of the d Cooms.
Speaker 3: We're a huge descendant's family or too appreciate that too, both.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing about Disney's there, they're kind of evergreen,
Speaker 1: so you know you can go watch normally not people
Speaker 1: like myself who don't have young children, but you know,
Speaker 1: you can go and watch. A twelve or thirteen year
Speaker 1: old kid can go and watch Stuck in the Suburbs
Speaker 1: right now and enjoy it just as much as a
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen year old kid.
Speaker 4: Did in two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same kind of It's just a
Speaker 1: nice movie.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's available now with Disney. Plus these movies
Speaker 2: are available, that's all. Okay, we were just having a
Speaker 2: conversation of streaming is the way people watch TV majority
Speaker 2: of the date of the times now, especially young kids.
Speaker 2: So they see something that there's one actor, you know,
Speaker 2: if they're a Brenda song fan, they're all sudden booms.
Speaker 2: Stuck in the Suburbs is gonna come up of feature
Speaker 2: that they should watch, you know. So that's that's why
Speaker 2: they're all circulating back around and they're finding these great
Speaker 2: gems that Disney put out. Yeah, during the time movie
Speaker 2: came out, they were hitting them almost monthly, the movies
Speaker 2: you well.
Speaker 1: Remember of course, now can you remember first hearing about
Speaker 1: Stuck in the Suburbs. Was this a typical there's an
Speaker 1: audition coming up? Or were you just asked me in
Speaker 1: the film or what happened?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 5: It's it was a long slog to get to offer.
Speaker 3: Only well.
Speaker 5: And still still like sitting by the phone, it brings
Speaker 5: in frequently. But this was an audition that was exciting
Speaker 5: because singing was required. They wanted someone who was able
Speaker 5: to sing, and I had been a musical theater major
Speaker 5: in college. So this was a very exciting opportunity to
Speaker 5: use those tools in theory. I auditioned, you know, I
Speaker 5: did my initial audition, and my memory is that pretty
Speaker 5: quickly I was like one of the producer's choices or
Speaker 5: I got to the sort of callback level very quickly. Okay, okay,
Speaker 5: And there were three of us, and it was at
Speaker 5: night time. I just remember because I got there and
Speaker 5: this very talented actor, singer Drew Seely, who is featured
Speaker 5: in Stuck in the Suburb.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't know who it was.
Speaker 2: It was the hotel desk clerk that they try to
Speaker 2: get up to you or your character, so.
Speaker 3: There was he wasn't he had a guitar, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh no, damn it.
Speaker 5: Oh no, that's like that is the next level of
Speaker 5: ability right there. And then there's another another actor and
Speaker 5: my memory is his first name's Sad. Forgive me that
Speaker 5: if that's even your name. He actually ended up playing
Speaker 5: my brother in Just Married. He's one of my older
Speaker 5: brothers in that, which or actually maybe that happened before.
Speaker 3: Oh boy time, right guys, Yeah, yeah, alright.
Speaker 1: Chat is sitting somewhere going it's Chat.
Speaker 5: It's yeah, that's why I'm gonna be real soft at
Speaker 5: my thh. He was there and I'm remembering that better
Speaker 5: now that that because we knew each other, was like.
Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on, man, Fad Luck and Bill?
Speaker 5: There you go, Lu and Bill there you have it okay,
Speaker 5: And we had to do the scenes. There was a
Speaker 5: couple of scenes and then sing a song of our choice,
Speaker 5: and you knew Drew was going to do an original
Speaker 5: acoustic guitar something amazing. I sang Unchained Melody by the
Speaker 5: Everly Brothers yep as Famous and Ghost and it went
Speaker 5: well and went well, and that's the last I heard
Speaker 5: of it for some time, for like you know, days
Speaker 5: and maybe even weeks. And and after that, I had
Speaker 5: booked a studio audition for a pilot. I was going
Speaker 5: to uh to the Fox Network to audition for this
Speaker 5: multi cam for the lead. And this is where it
Speaker 5: gets really exciting.
Speaker 2: Kids, Get close, Get close.
Speaker 5: I was about to go into the audition for this
Speaker 5: sitcom that never happened, and I got a call and
Speaker 5: my reps were like, Disney just called. They want to
Speaker 5: offer you the role, but you have to you have
Speaker 5: to walk away from the test. You can't if you
Speaker 5: if you test, they're going to ask somebody else. Oh,
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my god, I don't know
Speaker 5: what to do. And and my reps at the time
Speaker 5: were like, do the test.
Speaker 3: Because of this show goes it could be a huge hit.
Speaker 5: You never know, and as excited as you are about this,
Speaker 5: this Disney Channel original movie, it's just a better opportunity.
Speaker 3: So I said no.
Speaker 5: And I was so sad about it, and like, I
Speaker 5: feel like I was probably.
Speaker 3: In my head about it. In the audition, was only
Speaker 3: me and Jonathan Taylor Thomas.
Speaker 4: Oh no.
Speaker 1: Guitar.
Speaker 5: He is a human guitar are basically he is the
Speaker 5: human equivalent.
Speaker 3: J JTT. In the house, I was like, well, did
Speaker 3: you see him in the lobby too?
Speaker 5: I saw him in the hallway. It was just him
Speaker 5: and we didn't I wanted to, you know, you never
Speaker 5: know whether you want to people want to engage.
Speaker 3: Or social life quarter So I left him alone. Did
Speaker 3: the test get called the next day? You didn't get it.
Speaker 5: JTT didn't get it either, So I think I think
Speaker 5: what happened is that the whole show imploded. Quite honestly, Okay,
Speaker 5: thanks for another podcast.
Speaker 2: Yes whoops, yeah, yeah, whoopsie Daisy's Yeah, man.
Speaker 5: I was so sad at that point in my life.
Speaker 5: I was, you know, twenty twenty one. I was like,
Speaker 5: I've I'm an idiot, I'm an idiot. And it was
Speaker 5: like a full forty eight hours of wallowing, of listening
Speaker 5: to the saddest you two songs. And then on day three,
Speaker 5: my reps call and they go, Okay, Disney's back, and
Speaker 5: we're they're willing to offer you triple the amount.
Speaker 3: Before it was.
Speaker 4: They thought, there you were holding out.
Speaker 3: That's the best. It was so glory.
Speaker 5: I I learned everything I need to know about negotiations.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, they.
Speaker 5: Were absolutely that is hysterical. And and then and then
Speaker 5: they go, you're going You're going to New Orleans. You're
Speaker 5: gonna fly to New Orleans for a month and pretend
Speaker 5: to be a pop star.
Speaker 3: It was, it was so exciting.
Speaker 1: What was the shoot?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Was new was shooting in New Orleans?
Speaker 3: School was?
Speaker 5: It's it to this day even probably the best most
Speaker 5: enjoyable job I've had, because I was.
Speaker 3: Twenty one New Orleans at Jordan K. Hill.
Speaker 5: You know, he's he's featured, but he but but it's
Speaker 5: mostly Danielle and Brandon set.
Speaker 3: I had some time maybe ten days, maybe ten days
Speaker 3: out of the month. Yeah, all of.
Speaker 5: My per diem went to Harris Casino. We got there
Speaker 5: the last week of Marty Gras, Ryan Belleville, who plays
Speaker 5: my best friend in the film, and then Todd Stashwick
Speaker 5: who is the manager. Brilliantly funny guys. We all come
Speaker 5: from improv stand up sketch.
Speaker 1: Like I just saw Todd not longer.
Speaker 3: Oh awesome. Yeah, so it was truly like a vacation
Speaker 3: of a job. It was extraordinary.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, like airboat tours and holding alligators.
Speaker 3: Yes, did the only new.
Speaker 2: We just get off another interview that says, it's like
Speaker 2: I was filming in New Zealand for d com and
Speaker 2: it was like a vacation. It's like Disney. All you
Speaker 2: got to do is book a job on Disney.
Speaker 3: Truly.
Speaker 1: So before we get into then, what actually happened with
Speaker 1: the singing in the movie. And you've already said to
Speaker 1: us and set up and I could kind of see
Speaker 1: in the last scene that you don't actually play guitar.
Speaker 3: Sure, well, I was being nice. I was I was
Speaker 3: chewing on the guitar.
Speaker 4: It was not the best The guitar.
Speaker 3: Wasn't the best part.
Speaker 1: What was it like so me growing up, Better Off Dead,
Speaker 1: One Crazy Summer. These were hugely important things to me.
Speaker 1: So what was it like working with Savage Steve.
Speaker 5: Hond Yeah, I only found out that's who like that
Speaker 5: he had directed those films and One Crazy Summer in
Speaker 5: particular for me.
Speaker 3: Is I watched it on a loop me too.
Speaker 5: And he's the best. He's such a crazy, fun guy.
Speaker 5: He really was sort of like he enhanced that energy
Speaker 5: of like we're in New Orleans, we're having the time
Speaker 5: of our lives.
Speaker 3: Let's shoot this really fun, charming movie, and then let's
Speaker 3: get out there you guys.
Speaker 5: So he was just like the best social chair of
Speaker 5: a director. And I picked his brain at about certainly
Speaker 5: both those movies, but One Crazy Summer in particular because
Speaker 5: bobcat Goldwaite in that movie, like I would quote all
Speaker 5: the time, I could do it too, I could do
Speaker 5: it today. This is background a little fat kid that
Speaker 5: nobody liked and Curnis Armstrong or the little.
Speaker 3: Just like a grandma bur.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like everything worked out all in my favor,
Speaker 5: from going from like oh no, I do it, I'll
Speaker 5: never have this to truly like one of the most
Speaker 5: formative jobs I've ever had.
Speaker 1: The industry that's the industry in three days, isn't that?
Speaker 2: I mean you almost were this close to buying your
Speaker 2: manager exactly. How could you even suggest to then it
Speaker 2: being so incredible? Okay, So the movie is obviously based
Speaker 2: around the you know, mecca of boy bands and seeing
Speaker 2: Backstreet Boys, you know, all of those pop sensations. What
Speaker 2: was told that That seems where Jordan ca Hill's you
Speaker 2: know your Son is built around what was told to
Speaker 2: you about Jordan Kate, Like, how did they prep you
Speaker 2: of how they wanted you to play that part of him?
Speaker 3: Interesting? That's yeah, that part was a little it was
Speaker 3: more casual.
Speaker 5: I was and am a huge fan of boy bands,
Speaker 5: you know, Backstreet Boys and SYNC in particular, So I
Speaker 5: think like I was kind of left to my own
Speaker 5: devices to kind of draw from whatever source material I that.
Speaker 3: Spoke to me, that spoke to my heart.
Speaker 5: So in my mind, it was definitely like more in
Speaker 5: the Timberlake lane than in the card or lane, if
Speaker 5: that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Thank you for understanding.
Speaker 2: Highlighted hair is in both lane.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I know, but if you think about it,
Speaker 5: like what what real hair transformation did? Did like Nick
Speaker 5: go through But JT when he lost when he shaved,
Speaker 5: he shaved down the hair and went solo.
Speaker 2: A difference the huge it was huge. Well Nick did
Speaker 2: the bold cut blonde to the spikes.
Speaker 1: Actually the strangest conversation.
Speaker 2: Strange conversation, you know, but again not as extreme nor
Speaker 2: cared about as much as it was actually a big day.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought of when I saw the
Speaker 2: movie was this is like JT when he cut his
Speaker 2: hair off. No one could believe he cut those curly
Speaker 2: locks off.
Speaker 3: I think that's what they were going for. But I
Speaker 3: have very he looked good. I yeah, I looked better.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: It was very interesting because the first half of my
Speaker 5: shoot had I had like these actual hair extensions and
Speaker 5: right they like hot they hot glued hair into it.
Speaker 5: And like at the time, I'm living in a in
Speaker 5: an apartment with like three of my college buddies, Like
Speaker 5: it's just in this disgusting like bachelor pad and I
Speaker 5: come home with you and they just gave me so
Speaker 5: much for them this because you know, like JT's got
Speaker 5: you know it just his hair naturally grew out. But
Speaker 5: mind also went back to almost like Cinderella or like
Speaker 5: you know, like poisoned, big hair band.
Speaker 3: Kind of flowing locks.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I have not seen this kind of boy
Speaker 5: band member in my experience, Like, who's got long flowy nobody, nobody, No.
Speaker 1: Some of the K pop stars do.
Speaker 5: Now, if you're in the rain then of course, but.
Speaker 3: Bts definitely never dips their toes shoulder.
Speaker 2: We watched Brink a lot of the movies we've watched
Speaker 2: that were on the Disney Channel. That was their signature thing. Hello,
Speaker 2: Will had long gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Like the nineties.
Speaker 5: Will confirmed this for me because this is just wasn't yeah,
Speaker 5: this is this is out of that. But but that
Speaker 5: sort of sent that centered park flow like step cup
Speaker 5: thing to me. Edward verlong Terminator two is what made
Speaker 5: every guy of my generation want to have?
Speaker 3: Is that toss? I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean it was very it was very specific to
Speaker 5: me him on that dirt bike flipping that hair.
Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta, I gotta grow my hair out.
Speaker 1: I hate to say this because I know he was
Speaker 1: a rival of yours apparently at the time, but I
Speaker 1: think Jonathan Taylor Thomas was another one all improvement that
Speaker 1: kind of Yeah, we and we were right next to
Speaker 1: home improvement. We shared a gym class. We literally took
Speaker 1: gym class together. So I think it was all we
Speaker 1: all had the kind of sweeping middle part cut. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: was was the way we decided to go. So let's
Speaker 1: talk about a little bit about the singing.
Speaker 3: Great because you can sing.
Speaker 1: You were on Broadway, for God's sakes. You you can sing.
Speaker 1: So did you know going in that you weren't going
Speaker 1: to record the songs? Did you try to record the songs?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: How did that whole thing work out?
Speaker 5: I think in my like very hard line negotiation tactics, just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in that time production, I think like and and
Speaker 3: Steve may like may have.
Speaker 5: Confirmed this at one point. I have like a faint memory,
Speaker 5: but I think they wanted that. I think, or I
Speaker 5: think Steve was like I like Thad and then a
Speaker 5: scheduling thing happened, and like, you know, like that's how
Speaker 5: that you know, the business works.
Speaker 3: It was not like we got to get him. They weren't.
Speaker 5: They weren't strategizing in a boardroom like how do we
Speaker 5: get darn. It was just kind of like, all right,
Speaker 5: second choice, we'll take him. And so but in that time,
Speaker 5: I think, because you know, we shot a old music
Speaker 5: video and there was choreography.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Production had already needed to record the songs and didn't
Speaker 5: want to spend the time or money to re record
Speaker 5: them with my voice. So it was because it was
Speaker 5: a thing where it was like you got the gig
Speaker 5: going tomorrow to whatever Beverly Hill salon and have long
Speaker 5: dead person hair glued didn't on to your skull and
Speaker 5: then and then the next day we're.
Speaker 3: Flying to New Orleans at the time, have you done these?
Speaker 3: Have experience these?
Speaker 2: I've had them? Yes, my god, It's what Jennifer Andison
Speaker 2: was wearing at the time, so everyone had them. They're
Speaker 2: hurt to sleep, to sleep on there to.
Speaker 1: Take they did it all start with Jennifer Aniston? Or
Speaker 1: was it really Eddie Furlong?
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a theory. I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is confirmed or not for you, Terry, because I did
Speaker 2: look up a lot of the music producers of the time.
Speaker 2: I've worked with quite a few of those. They were
Speaker 2: like set Disney ones at the time, and that was
Speaker 2: right between two of my the movies that I did
Speaker 2: with the Cheetah Girls, so there was a lot of
Speaker 2: the same overview of producers Drew was locked in with
Speaker 2: a lot of them. I don't know how, but there's
Speaker 2: a chance. What I think happened was he was already
Speaker 2: on the demos. Interesting that they bought that that were
Speaker 2: submitted into the channel, and so, like you said, the
Speaker 2: cost of going back in and re recording and all
Speaker 2: that stuff could have been it. But he was really
Speaker 2: big on the demos. He was really big within the
Speaker 2: channel because of the producers that he did write and
Speaker 2: record with. So I again, this is a theory.
Speaker 1: I'm still stuck on if if my hair is like
Speaker 1: that because of Eddie Furlong, I'm still.
Speaker 3: Bond.
Speaker 4: I'm Princess Bond.
Speaker 2: I can't believe those were extensions because they looked wonderful.
Speaker 2: They looked so good never in my life. What I
Speaker 2: thought I was my question one of the questions I
Speaker 2: was going to say, how did you feel about cutting
Speaker 2: your hair? Was that like a hard thing for you?
Speaker 3: So happy?
Speaker 4: So happy because it was not your hair?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 5: Get it out of I want to I want to
Speaker 5: not have to sleep face down anymore. What was interesting
Speaker 5: is is and Todd was was the one who said
Speaker 5: this verses that without the extensions like that, long hair
Speaker 5: aged me up, and it is true. I remember watching
Speaker 5: the like go from like it's so interesting that long hair,
Speaker 5: and then and then going to the shortcut.
Speaker 3: I looked, you know, he did like my hair. I
Speaker 3: looked like my age.
Speaker 5: Suddenly, which is fascinating and and and and sort of
Speaker 5: related to the look. I do remember that the woman
Speaker 5: who designed the wardrobe had done Clueless, which.
Speaker 3: Was very excited. Yes, Mona, Ma, did you work with
Speaker 3: her too?
Speaker 5: She's amazing, so funny, so cool, and she Jordan had
Speaker 5: like legit stuff I had until maybe a year ago
Speaker 5: of her saucy jacket.
Speaker 3: Like that's what she loves, leather jacket with like.
Speaker 4: It seems like you could wear that anywhere.
Speaker 3: Chowbiness.
Speaker 2: Mona is known to do that. She takes her budget
Speaker 2: and if there's something in the movie that she thinks
Speaker 2: is going to be sort of a key to your
Speaker 2: iconic look, which that jacket, you know that she wants
Speaker 2: to spend good money on making that a great jacket,
Speaker 2: not getting a cheap she'll do cheap stuff other places
Speaker 2: to make it all round out. But she's brilliant at
Speaker 2: that absolutely and she's cool right.
Speaker 1: Same now, when you were on SNL, did you or
Speaker 1: anybody ever pitch a stuck in the suburbs.
Speaker 5: Let's get no. I think enough time passed, Enough time
Speaker 5: had passed. The first, the first and maybe only time
Speaker 5: I got called out for it was the first time
Speaker 5: Miley hosted. And on Monday, you go into Lauren's office
Speaker 5: and every cast member and every rider has to pitch
Speaker 5: an idea to the host to be like, I'm thinking
Speaker 5: about this this week to kind of get them excited.
Speaker 5: And when it came to me Lawrences and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, oh, I know who you are. I know
Speaker 3: who you are. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like anything that ever happened on Disney, I
Speaker 5: know everything about it, which is really funny and all
Speaker 5: of these like very funny but cynical, too cool for school.
Speaker 3: How many people are like what the hell?
Speaker 2: So they didn't even know about stuff?
Speaker 3: No no.
Speaker 5: When Vanessa found out about it, she didn't know. I
Speaker 5: wasn't no no, because like it was funny. Also, I
Speaker 5: remember Lauren's daughter was very excited that I was on
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 3: Lauren came up to me and it was an.
Speaker 5: Episode where Steve Martin was doing a cameo and Paul
Speaker 5: Simon and after our meeting between jessinayir. Lauren comes up
Speaker 5: and goes Steve Martin and Paul Simon in that room,
Speaker 5: and all the SHOPHI wanted to talk about was you.
Speaker 5: I was like, that's the power of Disney, and Lauren,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't even just so so amazing. So
Speaker 1: the girls were all One of the things we noticed
Speaker 1: was that they're all supposed to be in middle school,
Speaker 1: but Danielle and Brenda are probably sixteen at the time,
Speaker 1: so I imagine they're shooting kind of their own stuff essentially,
Speaker 1: Like you said, you're only working ten days. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I mean, was it kind of really discombobulated where you're
Speaker 1: kind of going in shooting a little bit and then
Speaker 1: leaving and then coming back and shooting, or did you
Speaker 1: do essentially your stuff out in like ten days.
Speaker 3: It was. It was definitely spread out throughout the month.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: It was like it wasn't like in terms of staying
Speaker 5: in it right right, Okay, I wasn't like to concerned.
Speaker 5: It was it was joyful and and Steve do.
Speaker 1: Your thing, you know, take off. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Like the biggest sort of heaviest moment was probably the
Speaker 5: fundraiser there at the end.
Speaker 3: And I, you know, no.
Speaker 5: Excuses, but excuse, I said, savage. Can someone teach me chords?
Speaker 5: Can someone?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I don't worry about it, buddy, we're gonna, we're gonna.
Speaker 1: We were gonna asks like, did they not at least
Speaker 1: teach him a chord to p.
Speaker 3: Pleague and say he's like, no, don't any word, just
Speaker 3: just go up there and do it.
Speaker 4: Oh, you're gonna be great, buddy. Teach him a G
Speaker 4: teaching one G chord.
Speaker 2: Normal, just three chords is all you probably needed to do, truly,
Speaker 2: three one, two three, And.
Speaker 5: I know for a fact there were takes where I
Speaker 5: was at least moving my hand around.
Speaker 3: And of course the one.
Speaker 5: That they didn't they didn't use those dead fingers, dead
Speaker 5: fingers on the thread.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 1: And there's also the great Disney trope we've noticed, which
Speaker 1: is towards the Big did the end, Big finale? No
Speaker 1: microphones are needed.
Speaker 2: No microphones, there's a band, no microphones.
Speaker 1: No, they cut to one guy on drums, and there's
Speaker 1: here's your band at.
Speaker 3: Act three D coms have their own reverb.
Speaker 4: They do, yes, they do.
Speaker 1: Was it the only one of the because we enjoyed
Speaker 1: the movie? I mean it's a good it's a fun
Speaker 1: good movie.
Speaker 4: We really did a great movie.
Speaker 1: One of the things that bumped us, though, One of
Speaker 1: the things that bumped us, did anybody mentioned that maybe
Speaker 1: the phone should have looked a little more like each.
Speaker 2: Other's right right? Pink, No and silver.
Speaker 4: Never never brought up, not even they're not even the.
Speaker 5: Same ship brand now Yep, No, okay, I think I
Speaker 5: think just the sort of star wattage of being in
Speaker 5: Jordan Cahill's presence kind of numbs the hands, numbs the eyes.
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
Speaker 4: Do you still talk to anybody from the.
Speaker 5: Movie, Ryan and Todd, Ryan Bellville and his brother Jason,
Speaker 5: who's very a very very funny TV writer, I see frequently.
Speaker 5: We actually were going to because we filmed it in
Speaker 5: I guess we filmed it in March February of maybe
Speaker 5: two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It premiered in two thousand and four, so probably.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it was like sort of the twentieth anniversary
Speaker 5: of it coming out in US filming. We were gonna
Speaker 5: go to New Orleans together, me and the Belleville's all
Speaker 5: together and bring our now our wives and say where
Speaker 5: I had princess beads here?
Speaker 3: No princess beads.
Speaker 2: There and then I said that, I said.
Speaker 3: That something different. That's funny though. We were gonna go
Speaker 3: and then of course life happens, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the way it works. And yeah, Stashwick is
Speaker 1: actually he has DM for me, so for the Fort Dragons. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I've seen him at seven. Okay, he's great, He's
Speaker 1: got you. Yeah, we got Kim Possible as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know he was in the live action version.
Speaker 1: I was in the cartoon. But yes, we have that
Speaker 1: link as well. And then we see each other at
Speaker 1: conventions all the time. So very good guy, very funny guy.
Speaker 3: So funny.
Speaker 1: Was this the only movie you've been in where you
Speaker 1: had to wear a fedora? Ooh ooh.
Speaker 3: Maybe try to get to the TV.
Speaker 5: But yeah, gosh, I mean that fedora is maybe something
Speaker 5: I tried to buy off of, Like I went crazy.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm twenty one, I'm a freaking hard thrub
Speaker 5: pop star. I gotta buy all this because everything at
Speaker 5: home is urban outfitter t shirts. Everything at home is
Speaker 5: cargo shorts, an urban outfitter like old movie reference T shirts.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's where did you grow up?
Speaker 3: I grew up in Big Bear, California. Represent Big Bear
Speaker 3: the cabin up there. I saw your your Are you
Speaker 3: at moon Ridge?
Speaker 2: We are right off of moon Ridge?
Speaker 3: Yes, very nice. Yeah, Big Bear. I did Scondz second
Speaker 3: grade and through ninth grade. We lived we lived there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So did you go to that?
Speaker 1: That high school that's right up in that area?
Speaker 5: So people go past rim of the World, and that's
Speaker 5: the one that people ask about. But that's Arrowhead, That's
Speaker 5: that's right. I was okay, okay, No, Big Bear has
Speaker 5: its own high school, Bear big Bear High School, and
Speaker 5: I went there. Yeah, Big Bear High the Bears, that
Speaker 5: the Bears.
Speaker 2: I love that. And then do you go up there
Speaker 2: at all?
Speaker 3: It would have been a missed up. It would have been.
Speaker 4: Weird like Big Band Big Bear.
Speaker 1: Were the Eagles like.
Speaker 3: The Big Bear comments? Yeah, making these guys.
Speaker 4: How are we the spartan?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we I try.
Speaker 5: I was doing like a like a President's Day weekend
Speaker 5: for a few is running okay, and but we haven't
Speaker 5: been up in maybe two years now something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We when we moved from.
Speaker 5: There, we moved down here to Los Angeles and I
Speaker 5: went to the I went to LASA, which is the La.
Speaker 3: County High School for the Arts.
Speaker 5: Okay, so that's where I graduated from, and all my
Speaker 5: family is still down.
Speaker 3: Here in the area.
Speaker 1: So you said it is now twenty years since yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: since the movie came.
Speaker 2: Out, you have trying to make that New Orleans trip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we will.
Speaker 5: We'll we'll find it, We'll find it. It was just nice
Speaker 5: that it was very like, you know, it's yeah when
Speaker 5: it's supposed to make the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 5: actual anniversary.
Speaker 1: Twenty years later. What is Jordan Cahill doing right now?
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, gosh.
Speaker 5: I mean he's probably got a residency somewhere, you know,
Speaker 5: don't you.
Speaker 4: Okay, he made it, so he made it.
Speaker 1: He made it.
Speaker 2: Because his own word.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to sell out.
Speaker 5: His own world is his own thing, and so he's
Speaker 5: like maybe downtown singer songwriter, like storytelling.
Speaker 3: Okay, and you know, like and once I was.
Speaker 5: I remember being in this little playground cement to with
Speaker 5: these two big fans of mine said, who are be
Speaker 5: true to you?
Speaker 3: And be true too.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I don't play chords. I just am the guitar.
Speaker 3: Only do the slides, just the side.
Speaker 1: Oh my, well, thank you for taking the time to
Speaker 1: talk to us about thanks for the movie, because we
Speaker 1: really had a lot of fun watching it.
Speaker 3: Oh good, good, good good.
Speaker 1: And I know it's been five or six years, but
Speaker 1: you should go back and have your kids.
Speaker 3: Watched this movie.
Speaker 5: No, that was the closest we came to watching it
Speaker 5: again was Disney Plus they're like, oh, it's on streaming,
Speaker 5: and so I showed them the thing, the title.
Speaker 3: It was a hard pass from both of my children.
Speaker 1: How are they?
Speaker 3: My oldest is fourteen, my youngest is nine. I bet
Speaker 3: my year old age.
Speaker 5: My fourteen year old is like, I want Bridgerton, I
Speaker 5: want Bridgeton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so grown. Now is not the age that's
Speaker 2: really caring about Disney at all? Maybe nine though.
Speaker 3: And she's like she but she likes Bluey.
Speaker 5: We're loving, loving, and this is good cross promotion because
Speaker 5: it's in the family X X Men ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Oh it's just so good.
Speaker 5: I'm like getting teary eyed because it's this perfect blend,
Speaker 5: just really well executed material but also so nostalgic. But
Speaker 5: it's like just hitting my core and every scene, every
Speaker 5: line of dialogue, everybody.
Speaker 2: And you're doing it now together with the yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Exactly is really cool.
Speaker 4: Thank you again for joining us.
Speaker 5: Of course, yes, thank you so fun. You guys go
Speaker 5: chronologically all over the place.
Speaker 2: You know one one movie since you were on Disney
Speaker 2: Plus that we would like to recommend. It's called buzz Bucket.
Speaker 3: If you see a buzz bucket, no, no, not familiar.
Speaker 2: It is a forty six minute movie.
Speaker 4: Forty six minute film.
Speaker 2: Great that wish you with lots of questions, but would
Speaker 2: probably give you a ton of material material.
Speaker 1: We're pretty sure we saw it and now we did
Speaker 1: not share a payote trip understood.
Speaker 3: It is in my bucket.
Speaker 1: Fuzzy budget, It's in the promise.
Speaker 3: It's worth it. That's a style of hair extensions too,
Speaker 3: it is it is.
Speaker 4: Well, when you watch.
Speaker 3: Your fuzz bucket, you'll understand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was a big Susie Ce Susie Cuns.
Speaker 3: That was my Yeah, Amy, Joe Johnson, Susie c That
Speaker 3: was huge for me. That was my my era.
Speaker 1: Well, again, thank you so much for joining us. Yes,
Speaker 1: and everybody out there go once again watch Stuck in
Speaker 1: the Suburbs.
Speaker 2: Because it's best with Jordan K. Hill like the rest
Speaker 2: of the girls in two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Terror appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys.
Speaker 1: God, that was funny. He has some great stories of that,
Speaker 1: just being in New World, the idea that this is
Speaker 1: such an industry thing that he turns something down because
Speaker 1: he's given the advice to turn it down, and it
Speaker 1: crushes him that he has to do that, and Disney
Speaker 1: thinks he's holding out so times the amount of money
Speaker 1: to come back.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they most likely thought that he booked the job
Speaker 2: and not to get him to actually come do the movie.
Speaker 2: He was going to need more money, which I'm sure
Speaker 2: his manager would like to own.
Speaker 1: That's not how that worked with the.
Speaker 2: Manager at all. But wow, good for him though. That's incredible.
Speaker 1: It's also the perfect example of the industry. You're down
Speaker 1: and then you're up, and then you're down and then
Speaker 1: you're up. I mean, it's just the way it.
Speaker 2: Works, fluctuates, and you just got to be able to
Speaker 2: take the ride. And if you've got him, that is
Speaker 2: not the industry at all. You know what I love here?
Speaker 2: And I feel like so many when we talk when
Speaker 2: we ask them about the audition process, how it's such
Speaker 2: human nature, especially as an actor. You know you're you're competitive,
Speaker 2: but yet you know respectful and everything that you sit
Speaker 2: there and you do size up.
Speaker 4: Oh you're either.
Speaker 2: Like I got this over you, which we've heard from actors,
Speaker 2: and then it's also.
Speaker 1: You showed up with a good suchar yes.
Speaker 4: Exactly, you never know.
Speaker 2: It's it's how that those lobbies of the auditions you
Speaker 2: have got to stay so focused because I mean your
Speaker 2: brain can go either way with the drop of a hat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well usually it's right when you're starting in an industry,
Speaker 1: you're in a room with fifty other people who look
Speaker 1: exactly like you. Yes, and then if you can get
Speaker 1: to a higher part of the industry, then you're with
Speaker 1: two or three people you know. Well, so you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're back together, the three of us again, and then
Speaker 1: hopefully you get to you know, straight offers, which is
Speaker 1: very rare, but man, yes, yeah, oh my well, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us on this park Opper
Speaker 1: episode of Magical Rewind where we got to speak with
Speaker 1: Taryn Killum about the wonder that was Jordan K. Hill
Speaker 1: and stuck in the Suburbs. Go out and watch this
Speaker 1: again because it was definitely worth it and we had
Speaker 1: a ton of fun, and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us all yes, and please join us next time.
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, bye bye,