WEBVTT - Starring Taran Killam as Jordan Cahill in “Stuck in the Suburbs” 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:16.640 Well, thank you so much for joining us on our 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:18.599 park Hopper episode this week, where we are going to 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:23.480 be talking to I mean, I guess Dcom royalty in 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.560 the way that En Sync is royalty, that the Backstreet 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:29.360 Boys is royalty, that any pop star in the early 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.560 aughts is royalty in that we are talking to Jordan 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:37.160 ky Hill. Yet actually we're not. We're talking to Terarren Killham, 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.520 who of course played Jordan k Hill, the frosted tip 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:46.640 locker pin up icon from Stuck in the Suburbs, who 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:51.560 apparently doesn't ever hold his own phone, and who's assistant 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:53.840 can't tell the difference between his phone and a giant 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:54.400 pink one. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.960 Nope, we gotta we gotta ask him about that. I 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.160 really terrible assistant. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.440 We love that. So if you could do us a 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.760 favor and please help us welcome Taran Killer. 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:15.520 Hello, Hello, Hello, how are you? I'm good? How are 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:16.040 you guys? 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:16.839 Welcome? 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:18.399 We're good having me. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.039 Thank you for joining us. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.920 I'm sure you've been asked to do tons of podcasts 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.479 about like SNL and some of the movies you've done, but. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:25.880 Is this the first? 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:30.440 This is the one peoples, Yeah, people are waiting for. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.520 There I love that, you know what I mean. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.560 Well, we just recapped the movie. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.320 Okay, okay, awesome. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.920 How long has it been since you've seen Stuck in Suburbs. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.960 It's been a while. It's been a long time. Yeah, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.760 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say five or six years. 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:48.760 Okay, Okay. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:53.200 Vanessa Bayer, who I was on SNL with, became very 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.760 obsessed with the fact that I was in this movie 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.000 when I was twenty one, and so for a birthday 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.840 for her, I was able to try down a DVD 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.440 of it and gift that to her, and I think 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.320 that was the last time I watched it. Was like 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.320 for her birthday. For Vanessa Beyer's birthday, we watched Stuck 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:10.080 in the Suburbs. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:14.600 Well, she was like every other girl at that time, Okay, 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.200 obsessed with the movie and with you as Jordan Gale, 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.800 I mean, goes hand in hand. Sure, I can't hate 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:22.120 her for. 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.720 That, you know, I can't hate her for anything. And 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:26.200 I've tried really hard. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.320 I've looked for a lot of reasons to hate for Essa. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.280 No, I mean, it's so funny the way, and I'm 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.680 sure you have covered this in previous watches or just 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:41.600 explorations of your your premise in general. But Disney just 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:45.880 just will replay the heck out of all these movies. Yeah, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.920 and in a way you know it hasn't died. 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:50.480 This isn't a thing from the past. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:54.040 And because of that anytime I would leave SNL at 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.040 the stage door. Stuck in the Suburbs was probably the 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:58.359 thing I was asked about the most. 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.760 Ohow, we were gonna have amazing people are coming up 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:04.240 to you a lot. It's true amazing. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:05.600 I don't know if you're aware of this. There's been 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.200 a huge resurgence in the love of the d Cooms. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:14.880 We're a huge descendant's family or too appreciate that too, both. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.359 Well, the thing about Disney's there, they're kind of evergreen, 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.760 so you know you can go watch normally not people 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.120 like myself who don't have young children, but you know, 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.160 you can go and watch. A twelve or thirteen year 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:28.840 old kid can go and watch Stuck in the Suburbs 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.520 right now and enjoy it just as much as a 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:32.760 twelve or thirteen year old kid. 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:33.800 Did in two thousand and four. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.560 I mean, it's the same kind of It's just a 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:37.680 nice movie. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.640 Well, and it's available now with Disney. Plus these movies 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.960 are available, that's all. Okay, we were just having a 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:48.520 conversation of streaming is the way people watch TV majority 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.200 of the date of the times now, especially young kids. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.480 So they see something that there's one actor, you know, 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.080 if they're a Brenda song fan, they're all sudden booms. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.480 Stuck in the Suburbs is gonna come up of feature 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.400 that they should watch, you know. So that's that's why 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.280 they're all circulating back around and they're finding these great 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.640 gems that Disney put out. Yeah, during the time movie 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:13.240 came out, they were hitting them almost monthly, the movies 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:14.000 you well. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:18.000 Remember of course, now can you remember first hearing about 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.320 Stuck in the Suburbs. Was this a typical there's an 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.680 audition coming up? Or were you just asked me in 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:23.920 the film or what happened? 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.920 No, no, no, no, no no no. 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.440 It's it was a long slog to get to offer. 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:30.400 Only well. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.719 And still still like sitting by the phone, it brings 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:41.040 in frequently. But this was an audition that was exciting 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:45.400 because singing was required. They wanted someone who was able 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.880 to sing, and I had been a musical theater major 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:52.279 in college. So this was a very exciting opportunity to 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:57.479 use those tools in theory. I auditioned, you know, I 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.200 did my initial audition, and my memory is that pretty 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:05.120 quickly I was like one of the producer's choices or 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:09.400 I got to the sort of callback level very quickly. Okay, okay, 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.480 And there were three of us, and it was at 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.120 night time. I just remember because I got there and 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:20.400 this very talented actor, singer Drew Seely, who is featured 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.560 in Stuck in the Suburb. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:24.760 Because I didn't know who it was. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.760 It was the hotel desk clerk that they try to 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:32.040 get up to you or your character, so. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.920 There was he wasn't he had a guitar, and I 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.800 was like, oh no, damn it. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:43.200 Oh no, that's like that is the next level of 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:48.760 ability right there. And then there's another another actor and 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.400 my memory is his first name's Sad. Forgive me that 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:56.239 if that's even your name. He actually ended up playing 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.760 my brother in Just Married. He's one of my older 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.279 brothers in that, which or actually maybe that happened before. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.960 Oh boy time, right guys, Yeah, yeah, alright. 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.000 Chat is sitting somewhere going it's Chat. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.320 It's yeah, that's why I'm gonna be real soft at 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:17.480 my thh. He was there and I'm remembering that better 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.440 now that that because we knew each other, was like. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.000 Hey, what's going on, man, Fad Luck and Bill? 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.400 There you go, Lu and Bill there you have it okay, 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.919 And we had to do the scenes. There was a 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.279 couple of scenes and then sing a song of our choice, 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.279 and you knew Drew was going to do an original 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:39.000 acoustic guitar something amazing. I sang Unchained Melody by the 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:43.200 Everly Brothers yep as Famous and Ghost and it went 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.200 well and went well, and that's the last I heard 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.719 of it for some time, for like you know, days 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:53.120 and maybe even weeks. And and after that, I had 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.560 booked a studio audition for a pilot. I was going 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.320 to uh to the Fox Network to audition for this 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.240 multi cam for the lead. And this is where it 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:04.159 gets really exciting. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.120 Kids, Get close, Get close. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:12.240 I was about to go into the audition for this 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.440 sitcom that never happened, and I got a call and 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.240 my reps were like, Disney just called. They want to 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.440 offer you the role, but you have to you have 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.000 to walk away from the test. You can't if you 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.920 if you test, they're going to ask somebody else. Oh, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.400 And I was like, oh my god, I don't know 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.080 what to do. And and my reps at the time 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.280 were like, do the test. 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.400 Because of this show goes it could be a huge hit. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.480 You never know, and as excited as you are about this, 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.760 this Disney Channel original movie, it's just a better opportunity. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:41.480 So I said no. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.040 And I was so sad about it, and like, I 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:45.520 feel like I was probably. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:50.679 In my head about it. In the audition, was only 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.720 me and Jonathan Taylor Thomas. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.400 Oh no. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:58.280 Guitar. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.600 He is a human guitar are basically he is the 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.720 human equivalent. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.040 J JTT. In the house, I was like, well, did 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:10.480 you see him in the lobby too? 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:12.320 I saw him in the hallway. It was just him 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.720 and we didn't I wanted to, you know, you never 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.000 know whether you want to people want to engage. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.680 Or social life quarter So I left him alone. Did 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.680 the test get called the next day? You didn't get it. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:26.680 JTT didn't get it either, So I think I think 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.800 what happened is that the whole show imploded. Quite honestly, Okay, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.320 thanks for another podcast. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:38.960 Yes whoops, yeah, yeah, whoopsie Daisy's Yeah, man. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.080 I was so sad at that point in my life. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.560 I was, you know, twenty twenty one. I was like, 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:48.480 I've I'm an idiot, I'm an idiot. And it was 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.600 like a full forty eight hours of wallowing, of listening 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:57.160 to the saddest you two songs. And then on day three, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.959 my reps call and they go, Okay, Disney's back, and 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.160 we're they're willing to offer you triple the amount. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:06.720 Before it was. 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.200 They thought, there you were holding out. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.280 That's the best. It was so glory. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:16.640 I I learned everything I need to know about negotiations. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:17.400 Oh oh, they. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:24.160 Were absolutely that is hysterical. And and then and then 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.240 they go, you're going You're going to New Orleans. You're 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.280 gonna fly to New Orleans for a month and pretend 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:29.200 to be a pop star. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.400 It was, it was so exciting. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:32.319 What was the shoot? 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:32.439 Like? 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:33.760 Was new was shooting in New Orleans? 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.120 School was? 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:40.319 It's it to this day even probably the best most 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.280 enjoyable job I've had, because I was. 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.520 Twenty one New Orleans at Jordan K. Hill. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.959 You know, he's he's featured, but he but but it's 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.320 mostly Danielle and Brandon set. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.320 I had some time maybe ten days, maybe ten days 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.719 out of the month. Yeah, all of. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.280 My per diem went to Harris Casino. We got there 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.720 the last week of Marty Gras, Ryan Belleville, who plays 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.280 my best friend in the film, and then Todd Stashwick 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.199 who is the manager. Brilliantly funny guys. We all come 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:11.960 from improv stand up sketch. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.360 Like I just saw Todd not longer. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:18.720 Oh awesome. Yeah, so it was truly like a vacation 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:20.760 of a job. It was extraordinary. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:25.120 Oh wow, like airboat tours and holding alligators. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.160 Yes, did the only new. 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.800 We just get off another interview that says, it's like 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.200 I was filming in New Zealand for d com and 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.560 it was like a vacation. It's like Disney. All you 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:37.280 got to do is book a job on Disney. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:37.800 Truly. 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:49.000 So before we get into then, what actually happened with 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.480 the singing in the movie. And you've already said to 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.960 us and set up and I could kind of see 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.120 in the last scene that you don't actually play guitar. 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:02.880 Sure, well, I was being nice. I was I was 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:03.920 chewing on the guitar. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.920 It was not the best The guitar. 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:06.480 Wasn't the best part. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.520 What was it like so me growing up, Better Off Dead, 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.600 One Crazy Summer. These were hugely important things to me. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.079 So what was it like working with Savage Steve. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:20.120 Hond Yeah, I only found out that's who like that 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.000 he had directed those films and One Crazy Summer in 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:22.920 particular for me. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.959 Is I watched it on a loop me too. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.720 And he's the best. He's such a crazy, fun guy. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.959 He really was sort of like he enhanced that energy 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.640 of like we're in New Orleans, we're having the time 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:37.360 of our lives. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.080 Let's shoot this really fun, charming movie, and then let's 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:41.320 get out there you guys. 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.720 So he was just like the best social chair of 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.800 a director. And I picked his brain at about certainly 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.319 both those movies, but One Crazy Summer in particular because 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.920 bobcat Goldwaite in that movie, like I would quote all 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:58.920 the time, I could do it too, I could do 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.360 it today. This is background a little fat kid that 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.320 nobody liked and Curnis Armstrong or the little. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:08.520 Just like a grandma bur. 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.680 Yeah, it's just like everything worked out all in my favor, 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.600 from going from like oh no, I do it, I'll 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.959 never have this to truly like one of the most 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.199 formative jobs I've ever had. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.719 The industry that's the industry in three days, isn't that? 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:35.719 I mean you almost were this close to buying your 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:42.120 manager exactly. How could you even suggest to then it 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.720 being so incredible? Okay, So the movie is obviously based 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.240 around the you know, mecca of boy bands and seeing 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:54.640 Backstreet Boys, you know, all of those pop sensations. What 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.040 was told that That seems where Jordan ca Hill's you 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:03.400 know your Son is built around what was told to 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.040 you about Jordan Kate, Like, how did they prep you 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.120 of how they wanted you to play that part of him? 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.600 Interesting? That's yeah, that part was a little it was 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:14.520 more casual. 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:19.400 I was and am a huge fan of boy bands, 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.120 you know, Backstreet Boys and SYNC in particular, So I 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.040 think like I was kind of left to my own 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:30.719 devices to kind of draw from whatever source material I that. 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.120 Spoke to me, that spoke to my heart. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.400 So in my mind, it was definitely like more in 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.920 the Timberlake lane than in the card or lane, if 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:38.960 that makes sense. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:40.800 Thank you for understanding. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.880 Highlighted hair is in both lane. 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.480 Yeah, no, I know, but if you think about it, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.800 like what what real hair transformation did? Did like Nick 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.720 go through But JT when he lost when he shaved, 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.280 he shaved down the hair and went solo. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.840 A difference the huge it was huge. Well Nick did 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.800 the bold cut blonde to the spikes. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.360 Actually the strangest conversation. 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:15.880 Strange conversation, you know, but again not as extreme nor 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.800 cared about as much as it was actually a big day. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.200 That's exactly what I thought of when I saw the 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.920 movie was this is like JT when he cut his 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.440 hair off. No one could believe he cut those curly 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:27.040 locks off. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.440 I think that's what they were going for. But I 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.600 have very he looked good. I yeah, I looked better. 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:33.160 It was. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.680 It was very interesting because the first half of my 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.200 shoot had I had like these actual hair extensions and 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:44.240 right they like hot they hot glued hair into it. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.280 And like at the time, I'm living in a in 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.880 an apartment with like three of my college buddies, Like 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.320 it's just in this disgusting like bachelor pad and I 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.600 come home with you and they just gave me so 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:59.680 much for them this because you know, like JT's got 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.920 you know it just his hair naturally grew out. But 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:07.240 mind also went back to almost like Cinderella or like 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.440 you know, like poisoned, big hair band. 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:11.480 Kind of flowing locks. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.320 I'm like, I have not seen this kind of boy 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:20.880 band member in my experience, Like, who's got long flowy nobody, nobody, No. 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:22.360 Some of the K pop stars do. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:27.040 Now, if you're in the rain then of course, but. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.000 Bts definitely never dips their toes shoulder. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.960 We watched Brink a lot of the movies we've watched 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.200 that were on the Disney Channel. That was their signature thing. Hello, 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.120 Will had long gorgeous. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.120 Like the nineties. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:50.160 Will confirmed this for me because this is just wasn't yeah, 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:51.920 this is this is out of that. But but that 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.720 sort of sent that centered park flow like step cup 0:15:55.800 --> 0:16:00.800 thing to me. Edward verlong Terminator two is what made 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.040 every guy of my generation want to have? 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.280 Is that toss? I don't know, I don't know. 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.080 I mean it was very it was very specific to 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.040 me him on that dirt bike flipping that hair. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:12.680 I was like, I gotta, I gotta grow my hair out. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.480 I hate to say this because I know he was 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.360 a rival of yours apparently at the time, but I 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:20.520 think Jonathan Taylor Thomas was another one all improvement that 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:22.880 kind of Yeah, we and we were right next to 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.240 home improvement. We shared a gym class. We literally took 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.880 gym class together. So I think it was all we 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.880 all had the kind of sweeping middle part cut. Yeah, wow, 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.320 was was the way we decided to go. So let's 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.840 talk about a little bit about the singing. 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.600 Great because you can sing. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.400 You were on Broadway, for God's sakes. You you can sing. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.960 So did you know going in that you weren't going 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.160 to record the songs? Did you try to record the songs? 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:49.240 Like? 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:50.640 How did that whole thing work out? 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:56.400 I think in my like very hard line negotiation tactics, just. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:04.359 Yeah, in that time production, I think like and and 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.320 Steve may like may have. 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.919 Confirmed this at one point. I have like a faint memory, 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.720 but I think they wanted that. I think, or I 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.240 think Steve was like I like Thad and then a 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.000 scheduling thing happened, and like, you know, like that's how 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:18.520 that you know, the business works. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.000 It was not like we got to get him. They weren't. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.040 They weren't strategizing in a boardroom like how do we 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.520 get darn. It was just kind of like, all right, 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:31.480 second choice, we'll take him. And so but in that time, 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.720 I think, because you know, we shot a old music 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.080 video and there was choreography. 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:35.640 Yeah. 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.920 Production had already needed to record the songs and didn't 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.879 want to spend the time or money to re record 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.159 them with my voice. So it was because it was 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:44.800 a thing where it was like you got the gig 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.200 going tomorrow to whatever Beverly Hill salon and have long 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.919 dead person hair glued didn't on to your skull and 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:54.840 then and then the next day we're. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:59.640 Flying to New Orleans at the time, have you done these? 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:00.920 Have experience these? 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.720 I've had them? Yes, my god, It's what Jennifer Andison 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.120 was wearing at the time, so everyone had them. They're 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.760 hurt to sleep, to sleep on there to. 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.639 Take they did it all start with Jennifer Aniston? Or 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:14.840 was it really Eddie Furlong? 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.879 Okay, I have a theory. I don't know if this 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.320 is confirmed or not for you, Terry, because I did 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.359 look up a lot of the music producers of the time. 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.480 I've worked with quite a few of those. They were 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.840 like set Disney ones at the time, and that was 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.680 right between two of my the movies that I did 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:42.480 with the Cheetah Girls, so there was a lot of 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:46.320 the same overview of producers Drew was locked in with 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.840 a lot of them. I don't know how, but there's 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.880 a chance. What I think happened was he was already 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.360 on the demos. Interesting that they bought that that were 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.840 submitted into the channel, and so, like you said, the 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.240 cost of going back in and re recording and all 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:03.520 that stuff could have been it. But he was really 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.639 big on the demos. He was really big within the 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:09.600 channel because of the producers that he did write and 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.440 record with. So I again, this is a theory. 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.960 I'm still stuck on if if my hair is like 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:17.840 that because of Eddie Furlong, I'm still. 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:19.800 Bond. 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.200 I'm Princess Bond. 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.359 I can't believe those were extensions because they looked wonderful. 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.680 They looked so good never in my life. What I 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.639 thought I was my question one of the questions I 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.560 was going to say, how did you feel about cutting 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:33.600 your hair? Was that like a hard thing for you? 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:34.359 So happy? 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.480 So happy because it was not your hair? 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:37.480 Correct? 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.119 Get it out of I want to I want to 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:45.120 not have to sleep face down anymore. What was interesting 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.040 is is and Todd was was the one who said 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:52.040 this verses that without the extensions like that, long hair 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.280 aged me up, and it is true. I remember watching 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:59.280 the like go from like it's so interesting that long hair, 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:00.880 and then and then going to the shortcut. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.639 I looked, you know, he did like my hair. I 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.000 looked like my age. 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.960 Suddenly, which is fascinating and and and and sort of 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.240 related to the look. I do remember that the woman 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.520 who designed the wardrobe had done Clueless, which. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:17.439 Was very excited. Yes, Mona, Ma, did you work with 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:18.000 her too? 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:23.040 She's amazing, so funny, so cool, and she Jordan had 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.680 like legit stuff I had until maybe a year ago 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.240 of her saucy jacket. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.320