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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 3: The job there, Cortofia Crackers.

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Speaker 9: Well, how about a kid? Episode three hundred of the

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Speaker 9: Anak and Floran Podcast. Good to have you with Us, Monday,

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Speaker 9: May tenth, twenty twenty one. And would you believe six

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Speaker 9: years ago, sitting in Los Angeles, California in an Orange studio,

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Speaker 9: God love you, TJ. DeSantis, Ken Flow A little reluctance

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Speaker 9: back then, but here we are man every single goddamn

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Speaker 9: week for six years. It's good to see a kid.

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Speaker 9: And whoa, you got a new studio? Is this just

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Speaker 9: for episode three hundred? My goodness, I built.

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Speaker 3: This just for the Anaki Floor podcast.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, like you no, man, you know, I'm excited, dude.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, three hundred episodes. It's been fun the whole time, dude,

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Speaker 3: and I'm glad we've stuck with it. I'm glad you

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Speaker 6: Ago.

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Speaker 9: Well, if you've been listening for the last six years,

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Speaker 9: you know that Ken flow. It's not that you don't

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Speaker 9: take compliments well, but he just doesn't like when I

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Speaker 9: talk about his fight career. And I referenced some of

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Speaker 9: these big wins singularly, like Joe Loson in two thousand

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Speaker 9: I can just I can just reference that beautiful photo

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Speaker 9: behind you. Uh So, all right, we have a lot

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Speaker 9: to get to today. Safe Saouta is scheduled to join

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Speaker 9: us in about fifteen minutes as part of this UFC

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Speaker 9: fight night Hadriguez versus Waters and recap because he had

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Speaker 9: three major players on the fight card. I'm hurting a

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Speaker 9: little bit today, ken Fill. I'm not gonna lie. I've

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Speaker 9: had a lot of ounces of coffee. I've had more

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Speaker 9: ounces of coffee today than any day in my life

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Speaker 9: and it's only ten thirty am Eastern. I've just been

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Speaker 9: pounding it after hitting the Red Eye, you know, Red

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Speaker 9: Eye back for Mother's Day. Can't wait for Father's Day.

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Speaker 9: By the way, I'm just gonna sleep. Can we just

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Speaker 9: get to. Of course, it's a pay per view week

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Speaker 9: sixty two from both Ian Parker and Joe Osborne and

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Speaker 9: So a lot to get to today. But we begin

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Speaker 9: with headlines and not going to change the format. Three

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Speaker 9: and a florin podcast dot com. Let's recap this Hadriguez

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Speaker 9: what was an outstanding main event, not the fight of

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Speaker 9: I love watching Marina Hadriguez fight live, and of course

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Speaker 9: Waterson to your tweet game as hell, what'd you think

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a great fight. I really enjoyed it. Actually,

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Speaker 3: you know, Hadriguez is definitely I think it was. I

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Speaker 3: In my humble opinion, it's amazing that they were able

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Speaker 3: I definitely noticed that Rodriguez looked a little she didn't

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and for Michelle Waterson as well, former Invicta FC

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Speaker 3: I think Marina has a little bit of work to do,

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Speaker 9: And it also looked as though Marina Hadriguez was playing

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Speaker 3: A tough one, you know. I think that for Donald Saroni,

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Speaker 9: Man, I think it's just hard because, as he acknowledged

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Speaker 9: of FORDA semm May. How about that timing the great

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Speaker 9: We are doing well, man, and I appreciate you joining

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Speaker 9: against his better judgment. After replenishing his body after getting sick,

435
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Speaker 9: he had to cut from two to eight down to

436
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Speaker 9: one seventy one to thirty seven pounds in a week.

437
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Speaker 9: And hey, man, like I saw him on the scale,

438
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Speaker 9: and you know, obviously he didn't look great. He has

439
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 9: so much respect from all the commentators in the fucking

440
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Speaker 9: I mean, dude, we had no idea what he was dealing.

441
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Speaker 11: I mean, everybody can see the talent, right, I think

442
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 11: Jeff is one of the best wealth weights in the world.

443
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Speaker 11: And ever since the stepsist thing, like, you know, he

444
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 11: just hasn't been himself. And he's such a quiet guy.

445
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 11: He never complains. He's not a drama queen, so you

446
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 11: really don't know. You know, it's like it's hard to

447
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 11: get him to tell us what's going on because he's

448
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 11: just you know, he's he's a fighter. You know, he

449
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 11: never ever says anything. But you know, I mean I

450
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 11: gotdom people telling me I had sewn and Hunter tell me.

451
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Speaker 10: I mean, everybody can see it.

452
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Speaker 11: He just doesn't have the same explosiveness and the same

453
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Speaker 11: go that he had before. And you know, me and

454
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Speaker 11: dar Strength's coach and some of the coaches has been

455
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Speaker 11: studying you know, what sepsist does and congestive heart failure.

456
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Speaker 11: I mean he I mean, he was in ICU for

457
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Speaker 11: seven days and I just think he needs a break.

458
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Speaker 10: We're going to reset him, We're going to get him

459
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Speaker 10: all the blood work, We're going to get him every

460
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Speaker 10: single medical opinion that we can.

461
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Speaker 11: All the best doctors that we have, We're gonna around

462
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Speaker 11: up get him going doctor D with the UFC, and

463
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Speaker 11: uh yeah, I mean the potential's there.

464
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Speaker 5: Man.

465
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Speaker 11: It's not taking anything away from Neil Magne. I thought

466
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Speaker 11: it was you know, he did what he needed to

467
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Speaker 11: do to win. I thought it was a close fight.

468
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Speaker 11: I thought Jeff edged it out from the power and

469
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Speaker 11: the damage in the cage control. He had him against

470
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Speaker 11: defense the whole time. But you know it's not that

471
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Speaker 11: doesn't matter, you know, in the bigger picture. It's like, honestly,

472
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Speaker 11: Jeff should walk.

473
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Speaker 10: Through a guy like that, you know, I mean he should,

474
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Speaker 10: and the old Death did so Cit and Neil on

475
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Speaker 10: the team.

476
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Speaker 11: I mean they won the fight, and but it's a

477
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Speaker 11: bigger issue with Jeff and I think that I think

478
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Speaker 11: that's what we're at and we're going to take a

479
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Speaker 11: step back and figure things out.

480
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Speaker 9: I mean, with respect to our guy Blah Muhammad. Like,

481
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Speaker 9: go watch Jeff Neil against Bala Muhammad back in the day,

482
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Speaker 9: Folks go to UFC fight pass The dude's an absolute animal.

483
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Speaker 9: So he's going to Hawaii. You're going to do all

484
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Speaker 9: the blood work, and yeah, man, just shutting it the

485
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Speaker 9: fuck down for a few months might be what the doctor. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 9: so that's good to hear. And obviously we're going to

487
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Speaker 9: on the other side, we'll have plenty of praise for

488
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Speaker 9: Neil Magne and the volume, all the USC welterweight accolades

489
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Speaker 9: for him. But man, this Jeff Neil stuff is absolutely

490
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Speaker 9: crazy for me to hear, right because I'm sitting there

491
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Speaker 9: looking at him on the scale and just like the

492
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Speaker 9: monster seems to have left the bill.

493
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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, it's it's it's a sad thing, right,

494
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Speaker 11: Like everybody has this like sad attitude when it comes

495
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Speaker 11: to it, Like, you know, no one's mad at him.

496
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Speaker 10: I mean I was not even.

497
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Speaker 11: Disappointed at all, because how do you get mad at

498
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Speaker 11: one of your kids when you know he's going through

499
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Speaker 11: that physically, you know you can see it. And you

500
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 11: know all of us are in our forties, right, we're

501
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 11: all in our forties now, and you know your your

502
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 11: one hundred percent is now like seventy percent of what

503
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 11: it was eight percent, right, like your new capacity top

504
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 11: is just not what it was. And that's what I

505
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 11: see in him and this kid in his prime and

506
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Speaker 11: his new capacity is just it's seventy or sixty or

507
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Speaker 11: thirty five percent of it, and you can't compete in

508
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Speaker 11: the top ten against the Neil Magnes and all the rest,

509
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Speaker 11: you know, great athletes with great conditioning and not being

510
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Speaker 11: one hundred percent. So we you know, we're going to

511
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Speaker 11: do our due diligence and get this kid back and

512
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Speaker 11: him healthy. And that's my first priority is to make

513
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Speaker 11: sure that he's healthy and that he's happy, and then

514
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Speaker 11: fighting will come after that.

515
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Speaker 9: So diego Faheeden. Gregor Gillespie. What a fight. Obviously it

516
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 9: was the fight of the night and a lot of

517
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Speaker 9: layers to this too as well with the weight miss.

518
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Speaker 9: But man, when Gillespie was on that stool beginning around two, right,

519
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 9: I mean, and there was nobody racing the window to

520
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 9: bet on that guy. You know. Domina Cruz was I

521
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 9: think communicating with the truck saying, dude, Gregor is about

522
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 9: to get finished in this round. What were your thoughts

523
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 9: on how that all played out?

524
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Speaker 4: Man?

525
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Speaker 11: You know, I had some people, you know, messaging me

526
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 11: and like, oh, you're just yelling at him and like

527
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 11: blah blah blah. I'm like, you know, give him some advice.

528
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 11: He's one of the best black belts in the division.

529
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Speaker 11: You think he doesn't know how to get up. What

530
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 11: happened was Diego's weight cut ruined that fight. I mean

531
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Speaker 11: that that weightcut. He took the five three and a

532
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Speaker 11: half weeks.

533
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Speaker 10: He thought he could make it.

534
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Speaker 11: He was one seventy four when he took the fight,

535
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Speaker 11: which is totally in striking range. He checked in at

536
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Speaker 11: the UFC I think at one seventy. He was one

537
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Speaker 11: sixty one. Thursday night, everything was on lock man. He

538
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 11: was just not sweating, you know, and I told him

539
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Speaker 11: shut it down. You know, he was shaking, and I

540
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 11: had the I there, I had Clint there, I had

541
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Speaker 11: Heather Linden there, modern and vitals like, I take this

542
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 11: shit seriously, man, don't I don't give a fuck about

543
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 11: MMA or the UFC compared to my guys.

544
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Speaker 10: I mean, these are my kids, you know.

545
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 11: I love the fucking guys, And uh no one understands

546
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 11: the pain and the battles that go on behind the scenes.

547
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 11: That obviously Ken Flow does and John you do too

548
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 11: from being in the game. But there's so much shit

549
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 11: happened before this guy stepping into that octagon right and

550
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 11: seeing him fuck up like that. I wanted to call

551
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 11: the fight, and I even told Gregor. I said, look,

552
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 11: it's I don't blame Gregor. I apologized to him. I said, look,

553
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 11: missing Waite is on our team.

554
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 12: That's it.

555
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Speaker 10: It doesn't matter. There's no excuse. But he was like

556
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Speaker 10: he could even try. So if you want to go in.

557
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 11: The back and see how fucking tired he is, go ahead.

558
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 11: I said, if you don't want to fight, I said,

559
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 11: no problem, let's just call it. And he was like, no, no, no,

560
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 11: I still want to fight. And I said, all right, well,

561
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 11: and you know.

562
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 10: The piver they saw what happened. He just stopped sweating.

563
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Speaker 11: So going into the second round, it's like, man, he

564
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 11: dominated him in the first round. I mean he had

565
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 11: him panic wrestling and shooting for the legs, and I

566
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 11: mean the jiu jitsu was on point. He ended on

567
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,239
Speaker 11: top of the mount, he was elbowing him, and he

568
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 11: was beating him in a stand up and diego.

569
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Speaker 10: You know, gets stronger as a fighter. Was on John.

570
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Speaker 10: You've seen him in the second nutter round.

571
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 5: Oh he usually.

572
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 11: Breaks people, but his body gave out on him. And

573
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Speaker 11: it's just a lesson to be learned.

574
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Speaker 10: You know.

575
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 11: I mean, there's no way he stopped moving like that.

576
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 11: And again, I'm not upset. I'm not mad at him.

577
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 11: I'm not disappointed. This shit happens in this sporting and

578
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 11: unfortunately it happened to him in a big spot, and

579
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 11: then he missed out on the bonus too, which is

580
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 11: even worse.

581
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Speaker 9: Yeah, No, there are a lot of tricky things as

582
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 9: far as this particular week was concerned for him, and

583
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 9: Gregor did tell me he appreciated that you approached him

584
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 9: in the back there with ample time, and that was

585
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Speaker 9: part of the reason he accepted the fight. But May

586
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 9: twenty nineteen, right, you guys had the Tornaldo fight go

587
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 9: away at UFC two thirty seven. I'm not trying to

588
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 9: put on my fucking journalist's hat here, right, but that

589
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 9: fight went away on way in day because he was

590
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Speaker 9: medically deemed on fit. Anybody who knows his career knows

591
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Speaker 9: he's driving to you seven and a half nine hours

592
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 9: whatever it is from for Texas to you, and I

593
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 9: don't know. I guess I'm just wondering if this gives

594
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Speaker 9: you any forethought in terms of the weight class for

595
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 9: Diego in the future.

596
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 11: Well, for him, he needs to you know, walking at

597
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 11: one seventy five, like that's a fifty fiber and I mean,

598
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 11: there's nothing wrong with that, and it's not like he's

599
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 11: a ripped big guy, but everybody's different. And he's got

600
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 11: figure out the water thing, you know. And and I

601
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 11: told him, and I told I'm not fighting either of

602
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 11: them until we get the hell things straight now, because

603
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 11: it's like watching these talented guys, you know, lose fights

604
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 11: that I think they should have won, you know, because

605
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 11: of their physical uh, you know, ability or inability. I

606
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 11: should say, he was really frustrating. And at the end

607
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 11: of the day, you know, everyone else's lives move on,

608
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 11: but not theirs. Right now, these guys are are coming

609
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 11: off losses and they've got the depression. They've got to

610
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 11: deal with the mindset of losing and all the other

611
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 11: shit that comes with And Kenny understands that. I mean,

612
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 11: it's nothing is worse.

613
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Speaker 3: And it could affect your career too. I mean it's

614
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: like one loss could send you in a different trajectory potentially,

615
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 3: you know. I think those you know so much potential

616
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: and they'll getting a shock, but you never know in

617
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 3: this game, you know.

618
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Speaker 10: It's crazy, yep.

619
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Speaker 9: And I will say most elite lightweights, they need eight

620
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Speaker 9: six to eight weeks man to hit that fifty five,

621
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 9: you know, and even if everything goes well, you know,

622
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 9: if the last day doesn't. You know, it's a really

623
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 9: tricky thing. Hey, before we let you go, this Uriah

624
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 9: Hall captaincy. So if if you had told me three

625
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 9: years ago that Uriah Hall would would come in align

626
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 9: with Fordus MMA and then become the captain of the

627
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 9: goddamn team, I mean, it's an incredible story. I know,

628
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 9: he rises up the team, he lifted up his teammate

629
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 9: Kennedy and Zechiku, and it seems like that was the

630
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 9: impetus for the captaincy. What do you have for me

631
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 9: on that, my friend?

632
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, here's a deal.

633
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 11: Like, everybody knows how talented your eye is, right, but

634
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 11: he's never really been put in that leadership role. I

635
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 11: just feel like people kind of cared him for so long,

636
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 11: right because he was so good and man, if you

637
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 11: could just get together mentally, and it's like, dude, your

638
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 11: eye is thirty six years old, Like you're a fucking

639
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 11: grown up, you know, and it's I'm going to be

640
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 11: a leader.

641
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 10: And you know, ever since he came to the gym.

642
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 10: I'm like, look, man, you know, you.

643
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 11: Fought the best of the best, like Robert Riddard kerml Saucy, Like,

644
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 11: I mean, you've done so much, Like you need to

645
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 11: start looking at yourself from a different lens and a

646
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 11: different perspective and start seeing yourself as a veteran and

647
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 11: as a leader.

648
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 10: And I think ever since that's happened, I mean, you know,

649
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 10: he's on four.

650
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 11: Fight win streak, the longest one of his career in

651
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Speaker 11: the UFC, and I feel like owning that leadership has

652
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Speaker 11: helped him grow as well for himself, you know.

653
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Speaker 10: And and what happened.

654
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 11: Was Kennedy's, you know, a gigantic guy, and he usually

655
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 11: cuts weight really well, and he was at too well.

656
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Speaker 11: He was at two hundred and eight pounds, and he

657
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 11: was looking at that hot box on and he's like,

658
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 11: I'm not getting back in there. He told me, he said, coach,

659
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Speaker 11: I got to listen to my inner voice. This is

660
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Speaker 11: what he told me. I got to listen to my

661
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Speaker 11: inner voice.

662
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Speaker 10: Coach. I think it's I think it's not gonna move.

663
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Speaker 11: I go, Kennedy, if you're talking to me this way,

664
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Speaker 11: this holy and totally like you know, Lucid. I said,

665
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 11: you're you've made a mental decision that you don't want

666
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Speaker 11: to get back in the sauna. And I said, and

667
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 11: the problem is, I go, I go, this is a

668
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 11: huge fight for you. I said, you're another dog against

669
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Speaker 11: his kidting City Kickboxing. He's a big he's a big prospect.

670
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Speaker 11: Is he was talking about him winning the title all

671
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Speaker 11: week and I said, you fucking miss wait and you

672
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Speaker 11: go in there. Even if you win, you know it's

673
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Speaker 11: not going to look good. And I said, it's going

674
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Speaker 11: to take away all the all the greatness. And I said,

675
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Speaker 11: and potentially the bonus which we saw just happened this

676
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Speaker 11: weekend to our poor guy Diego. So I'm talking to him,

677
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 11: and man, you know till Jackson said you want to

678
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 11: coach seven years? Because after that people stopped listening. And

679
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 11: there's some truth to that, right, I mean, like you

680
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 11: got you just got to know, sometimes you got to

681
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Speaker 11: let someone else run with the ball.

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Speaker 10: And I could tell I was talking, but I could

683
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Speaker 10: tell he wasn't really quite listening. I mean, he hadn't

684
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Speaker 10: made up his mind.

685
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Speaker 11: So I kind of stepped back and here comes your

686
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Speaker 11: Rayah and he looks at me and he goes, I

687
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Speaker 11: think the time for talking is done, and I said,

688
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Speaker 11: and I looked at him, and he's like, Kennedy, you're

689
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 11: gonna fucking get up and you're gonna get masana. He's like,

690
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 11: I'm gonna come pick you up right now, and I'm

691
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Speaker 11: going to put you in the sauna. And he said,

692
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 11: and this is gonna happen. And Kennedy is like six

693
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 11: five and a half, you know, and he and Raya

694
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 11: is like approaching him, and we.

695
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 10: Had another guy with us.

696
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 11: They were like approaching him a quiet, like really quietly

697
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 11: and slowly, like walking up to him right to put

698
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Speaker 11: their hands on him. And I'm just I'm just watching

699
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 11: this shit. I'm like, man, I hope a fight doesn't

700
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Speaker 11: break out right here. And so I'm just thinking about

701
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 11: how I need to position myself if all these elite

702
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 11: guys start going at each other, right, I'm gonna have

703
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 11: to pull out the dad hand and uh. And Kennedy's

704
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 11: just like looking at him as he's getting closer and

705
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 11: closer and closer to him, and your right put his

706
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 11: hands on him, and then he picked him up right,

707
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 11: and Kennedy got up and then he walks him over

708
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 11: and he sits him in the sun and he sets

709
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 11: it up and he says it and Kennedy just kind

710
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 11: of like went quiet.

711
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 10: And then you.

712
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Speaker 11: Riah completely stepped up. I mean he got down to

713
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Speaker 11: two six point six. He made the walk downstairs your

714
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 11: rights like all I meant, and Kennedy's like, hey, got

715
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 11: back in the sauna, got to two o six.

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Speaker 10: We drive there, you know, we're.

717
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Speaker 11: In the limo riding and Kennedy looks at me and

718
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 11: I said, man, you just went to a deep, dark

719
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 11: place that you didn't want to go. And I said

720
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Speaker 11: tomorrow night, I said, when that comes again, I said,

721
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 11: you're going to be ready. And sure ship, he was ready,

722
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 11: and you know, he took all burg out and right

723
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 11: when he got done and walked out, he looked at

724
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 11: me and he looked at your Rye and he said,

725
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 11: thanks guys, he said, he said, I can have done

726
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 11: it without you. So that was kind of the moment

727
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 11: for me. And and I think I want to see

728
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Speaker 11: you Rye go out on top. I think he's an

729
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 11: amazing fighter, an amazing athlete, and and you know, this

730
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Speaker 11: is probably the best run that he's had and a

731
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Speaker 11: couple more fights.

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Speaker 10: I mean, who doesn't want to see him fight, is he?

733
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Speaker 11: It's not about oh dude, you know everybody talks all

734
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 11: this shit like, oh yeah, well you're right, he's.

735
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Speaker 5: This that like, shut the fuck up.

736
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Speaker 10: Man, who doesn't want to see that guy? Is he

737
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 10: thrown out? And that should be.

738
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Speaker 6: Entertaining as hell noice.

739
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Speaker 10: So if if he can.

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Speaker 11: Win a couple more fights, I think that's a fight

741
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 11: people could get behind. I mean, you know, is he

742
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 11: fought Anderson? He fought Anderson. And there's the style. The

743
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 11: styles make the fights, like I know, you know, I

744
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 11: already know you or I lost the Paul cost so

745
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 11: like I already know all that ship.

746
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Speaker 10: But man, people want to see great fights.

747
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Speaker 11: I mean, that's why we're watching nay Diaz fucking Fightingwards

748
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Speaker 11: off last time.

749
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Speaker 3: So Israel Israel is so dynamic, and there's very few

750
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Speaker 3: people that can do what he does. Uriah is one

751
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: of the few guys who's just as that dynamic and

752
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: physically capable.

753
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Speaker 6: Is he is so exactly?

754
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Speaker 9: Yeah, And I think one you might be one win away,

755
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 9: whether it's a main event win, right, you get the

756
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 9: right name in that top three or four, you're one

757
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 9: win away from a championship opportunity. Especially given stylistically how

758
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 9: that fight potentially could play out. All right, before I

759
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 9: let you go, what's next on your calendar? Are you

760
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 9: going away? You're going away this weekend or what?

761
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 5: Oh?

762
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 11: Man, come on, you know it's sure the circus never ends.

763
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Speaker 10: Man, it's using at least warrn't you know? We're staying home.

764
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Speaker 11: And we got Matt Snell h you know he's he's

765
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Speaker 11: he's coming off a win with Tyson Am and you

766
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Speaker 11: know he's been in the camp now I don't know,

767
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 11: getting close to the year. Just a great kid and

768
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Speaker 11: he's fighting. He's fighting a kid, a replacement. He was

769
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 11: fighting Alex Perez, who was that.

770
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Speaker 10: Was going to be a dog fight.

771
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Speaker 11: I got nothing but respect for outcause I think the

772
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 11: kids a fucking stud you know. So, yeah, that's ready,

773
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 11: and we'll be in h town. You guys coming or

774
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Speaker 11: what I will be there.

775
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Speaker 9: Ken Flow's got a got actually a baby boy on

776
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 9: the way if you fall on you know that. But yeah,

777
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 9: so any day now Ken Flow is going to be

778
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Speaker 9: a family.

779
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Speaker 11: Yeah, congratulations, So you've got you Now You've got a

780
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 11: little mini Samurai coming, so you know.

781
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 6: All the expectations that are there.

782
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 10: Ken Flow fought for the world to last month.

783
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: I can't remember right to two different weight classes, so

784
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: I have to establish my dominance early.

785
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 5: Safe.

786
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: I got to make sure he knows who the man

787
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: of the house is, just straight away first day, you know,

788
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: and then we put him to work after that.

789
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, this kid's gonna be a world champion, right right?

790
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Speaker 9: That would be nice head Coach fordis m m a

791
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Speaker 9: safes out. If you're watching us, you saw his social

792
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 9: media handles there, Hey, thanks for the extended time, my friend.

793
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 9: I know you're a busy man and uh look forward

794
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 9: to shaking your hand to end a big weekend hopefully

795
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 9: for Matt Danger shnow in Houston.

796
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Speaker 3: Bro, Thank you sir, Thank you guys.

797
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 9: There he is the man safe side. What a guy,

798
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 9: what a coach, the general. I mean, there's no doubt,

799
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 9: like if I were to really do this amateur MMA

800
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 9: debut thing, he would be one of my first phone calls.

801
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 9: Ken Flow, no truth to the rumor that your name

802
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 9: and your son Jonathan, Right, We're not noell you know

803
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 9: you never know, never know. But if you are following

804
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 9: Ken Flow on Twitter, the tweet was kid any day now,

805
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 9: what should I name my son? So if you have

806
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 9: suggestions for Ken Flow, Excuse me, I dropped my permanent macca.

807
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 9: If you have suggestions for Ken Flow as to what

808
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 9: he should name his baby boy, it's at Kenny Florian

809
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 9: on Twitter. Dude. How about Gregor Gillespie? Okay? How about

810
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 9: the heart the cardiovascular base that allowed him to put

811
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 9: himself back in this fight? So much respect for this

812
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Speaker 9: athlete and those who suggest that I overplayed his exhaustion

813
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 9: on the broadcast. He's one of my best friends on

814
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 9: the rosso okay, and as he said in his post

815
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 9: fight interview, he was fucking exhausted. I've never seen him

816
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 9: that tired in my life. He probably can't remember being

817
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 9: that tired in a physical setting, in a competitive setting

818
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 9: that many times in his life, despite all of the

819
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 9: wrestling matches and all the accolades. What a win for

820
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 9: Gregor Gillespie? Can Flow fighting a guy who might have

821
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 9: been one hundred and eighty five pounds on fight now?

822
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 10: Well?

823
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Listen. I've heard from other guys that have trained

824
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: with Gregor that he's an absolute beast and everything he

825
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: does physically as far as running and all that stuff,

826
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: and I would agree with you, we'd never seen him

827
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: that tired. But it goes to show you, right, the

828
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Speaker 3: importance of controlling your emotions and how much of a

829
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: factor the emotional connection to what you're doing really matters.

830
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Speaker 5: Right.

831
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Speaker 3: He was coming off and he mentioned a lot of

832
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: these things after the fight. He didn't have. You know,

833
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: Gregor Gillespie's a very confident guy. He wasn't so confident

834
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 3: heading in this fight. I'm sure all the doubt, all

835
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: the fear, all the exchanges. He was losing in this

836
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 3: fight to Diego Fjedo, because for Haito was winning almost

837
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: every single exchange in that first round. He ended on bottom,

838
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: was getting pounded out, had his you know, his back

839
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: was taken a couple times, and he was just losing

840
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: that fight. Okay, Not only did he continue to fight

841
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: on and fight hard, he went right back into the

842
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: dragons dead. He kept clitching, he kept taking him down.

843
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: He's like, I know I'm losing these exchanges, but I

844
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: believe in what I'm doing. This is my path to victory.

845
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: And he kept doing it and it fucking paid off.

846
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: That was unbelievable, man. Gregor Gillespie's a stud and it

847
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: was a tremendous win, and one of those wins that

848
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: will also fuel him for future wins, to give him

849
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: way more self belief, and I think he'll be that

850
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: much more calm and that much more confident as he

851
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: moves forward.

852
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 9: Now, you nailed it as usual, and there are a

853
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 9: lot of fighters who bail on the strategy. X Morono

854
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 9: was talking about the Anthony Pettis fight. He found himself

855
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 9: between strategy and wanting to kick box, and No Man's

856
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 9: Land killed him. Gregor Lespie felt like if he could

857
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 9: stick to the strategy, eventually he could fatigue the other

858
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 9: athlete and a tremendous finish and a bonus and he

859
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 9: gets one hundred K obviously because Diego Fajeda was not

860
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 9: bonus eligible. And again, if you saw Gillespie's post fight interview,

861
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 9: he wanted to know himself whether or not he could

862
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 9: still hang with this division's elite, And even though there

863
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 9: were some compromising moments, I think the answer is an

864
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Speaker 9: acute yes, and Gregor Gillespie gets a big win. Neil

865
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Speaker 9: Magney eighteen uf T Welter wins. I mean, what else

866
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Speaker 9: can you say about Neil goddamn Magni And we will

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Speaker 4: It's the main event challenge at times.

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Speaker 9: All right, time to make some picks. It's a pay

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Speaker 9: per view week YOUFC two sixty two Oliver versus Chandler

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Speaker 9: and we are now joined by Ian Parker and I

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00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 9: like this safe Saud wore a hat. I know you

909
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 9: always wear a hat, so I can always wear a

910
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 9: hat on this program, right.

911
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, it's funny until people see me without

912
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 13: the hat, they just assume I'm bald.

913
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 12: And then I take the hat, I'll.

914
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 13: Know you got you got good hair, and I'm like, yeah,

915
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 13: but it's just that it's just my thing. I just

916
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 13: kind of like that security of wearing a hat. We

917
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 13: can't all just come gelled up like Kenny with a

918
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 13: picture behind him of him choking me out in my

919
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 13: UFC debut.

920
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 9: It's confidence though not security, right, Like people ask I

921
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 9: wear a mustache on TV, and I didn't wear it

922
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 9: this weekend because Gregor Gillespie's girlfriend hates it, so out

923
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 9: of respect for her, I did not wear it this weekend.

924
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 9: But right, don't you. Isn't it a confidence thing though

925
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 9: in some respects?

926
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 6: Right?

927
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 9: I mean, I know when you do the PFL broadcast,

928
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 9: you you can't wear a hat, but security confidence You're

929
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 9: more confident in the hat, and that's why you're rocking

930
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 9: it on the Anconforming podcast.

931
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: It's like the alter ego.

932
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, with PFL, they make us wear like a jacket

933
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 13: suit no pants, So that's cool, you know, Kenny Spow.

934
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 12: Kenny stands it's a belt, but there's really nothing underneath that.

935
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: But other than that, you know, it's.

936
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 13: Uh, Speedo's always yes, Spiedo's suit jacket pocket square.

937
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: I love that.

938
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 9: So three hundred episodes, Ian, when did you first listen

939
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 9: to our show? Do you remember what.

940
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: The worst one? Obviously?

941
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 12: I mean I was there of a pilot episode.

942
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was, so hey soing from the Ultimate Fighter

943
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 9: season one? No way. So so you marked ken flow

944
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 9: this weekend sixty one, our intern Casey Williams, you can

945
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 9: start adding Ian and Kenny to the standings email. I

946
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 9: think that might make for some interesting back and forth

947
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 9: one for me until it wasn't well it's right, Well,

948
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 9: so here's the thing. So and again, anytime sort of

949
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 9: something like this, you know I got people telling me like,

950
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 9: oh you know that Magne was even the Komine event,

951
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 9: all these Team Flory and people coming at me. Listen

952
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 9: to this, all right, fine, So the Neil Magney plus

953
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 9: one sixty by decision, Like if you listened to the show,

954
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 9: you know that's a four point play if it hits right.

955
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 9: And I'm not taking those points away because it wasn't

956
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 9: the co main event. When we did our show, it

957
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 9: was six to one for Team Annik do you live

958
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 9: in pom Beach County or are you in Broward County?

959
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: Broward?

960
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 9: Oh, because I was thinking we could change the name

961
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 9: of this team if you keep kicking his ass like this,

962
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 9: to like the Palm Beach County Jew Club or something.

963
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 9: But you don't county this order.

964
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: I'm I mean, we could do it anyway, or just

965
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: called the Jew Clubs. Joe, Jeff Neil was sick. I

966
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: got screwed on that we got he had to kick

967
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: an acid round one and then all of a sudden

968
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: he shits the betting round two. I mean, go aw.

969
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 9: You know what's interesting Ian about the Jeff and Neil thing,

970
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 9: because we just talked to Safe Sude and you know,

971
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 9: we did sort of ask Jeff in our fighter meeting

972
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 9: about the sepsis and obviously he lied to us, and

973
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 9: that's fine, but it seems like Safe in those guys

974
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 9: like he didn't tell them what was going on either,

975
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 9: like he just it's incredible.

976
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 13: I mean, I gotta be honest with you. Put all

977
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 13: that stuff to the side. He's fought one time a

978
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 13: couple of years he went what five rounds with wonder Boy.

979
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 13: Then he's getting thrown into a fight with a cardio

980
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 13: machine like Magni, And I said to you on the show,

981
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 13: Magne doesn't usually lose two times in a row. And

982
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 13: the fight so against Yessa was not your normal Neil Magnie.

983
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 13: You know it's with Jeff Neil. I just don't think

984
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 13: he knows who he is when he's.

985
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 12: Fighting top ranked guys.

986
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 13: And Magni saw what happened against a guy like Kisa,

987
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 13: so he has to go back to his top.

988
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 3: Look.

989
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 13: Magni can wrestle, He's got that arranging cardio and that's

990
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 13: what I was banking on, and I was.

991
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: I was right. Well, I mean Erilluspie.

992
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 13: That guy is some sort of different animal though, because

993
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 13: fighting fat Yeah Piano, whatever his name is, that was

994
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 13: wild because I've never seen him so tired.

995
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: Walking back to that story one that was.

996
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 9: Interesting though, because the fire was not in Magni's eyes

997
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 9: on Fight Island against Michael Kissa. You know, I'm sitting

998
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 9: in the crowd that night as a fan, and I'm

999
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 9: looking over there and I would also submit to you,

1000
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 9: and perhaps I should have done this on broadcast, but

1001
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 9: I didn't think of it until I was back in

1002
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 9: my hotel room with U with Domina Cruz when it

1003
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 9: came up. But Neil Magne fighting Kisa and that thirty

1004
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 9: footer fight that twenty five footer. You know he'd come

1005
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 9: up on that fence pretty quickly. He loves that defence.

1006
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 9: All right, We got to make some picks. Might have

1007
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 9: to push Joey Osborne back five minutes. First fight for

1008
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 9: us in the featherweight division. Very curious to see on

1009
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 9: which side you guys fall here, Ian Edson' gear Barbosa

1010
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 9: minus won ten Hurricane, Shane Burgos minus won ten So

1011
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 9: Barboza last year moves down to featherweight split decision, lost

1012
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 9: to Dan Egay. If fight many people thought he won.

1013
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 9: I thought he gave won the fight for the record.

1014
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 9: Then a great performance against makwanimir Kani gets the new contract.

1015
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 9: He says, the UFC appreciates his work and his style,

1016
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 9: so do the three of us. Of course, one of

1017
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 9: my favorite fighters of all time. Ian, what do you

1018
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 9: have for us? On Burgos and Barbosa?

1019
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 12: Oh, this is a really tough fight.

1020
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 13: Depends on what Shane Burgos comes to do, because this

1021
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 13: guy likes to brawl instead of uses wrestling, and I

1022
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 13: think that's gonna be what helps Barbosa here. We've seen

1023
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 13: the path of victory with against Burgos. You know, throw straight,

1024
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 13: don't get into brawls, use your range, and when Barbozos kicks,

1025
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 13: I just think that he's gonna slow Burgos down.

1026
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 12: Although he's a Cardio freak, I'm leaning Barbosa.

1027
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 13: I don't love the pick right now just because of

1028
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 13: how insane Burgos really is with Cardio.

1029
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 12: But we've seen him get kind of careless.

1030
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 13: Then if you get careless against Barbosa, not gonna work

1031
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 13: out well.

1032
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go with Edson here.

1033
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 9: I would expect the sharpes to be on Barbosa here.

1034
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 9: I'm very curious to see where this line closes. Burgos

1035
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 9: is the man, Kenny, I mean, married to the game.

1036
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 9: Doesn't even begin to describe it. Only lost for him

1037
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 9: really at all of late was his last fight, Epic

1038
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 9: Flight of the Year candidate against Josh Emmett. That was

1039
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 9: in June, so he's had what amounts to almost a

1040
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 9: year off. Kenny, what do you think about Burgos here

1041
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 9: in this spot against Edson Junior Barboso.

1042
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think that early on against Emmett,

1043
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: he did a good job of establishing his range he

1044
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 3: was getting the better from the you know, the outside.

1045
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: I think that ultimately Emmett obviously had a ton of

1046
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: power was landing some big shots repeatedly. I think that

1047
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 3: Edson Barbosa can match the height and length of Burgos here.

1048
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: I think he'll still be the faster guy.

1049
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 5: You know.

1050
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: Barbosa kind of struggles a little bit with his fortwork

1051
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: when he gets pressured going backwards a little bit, but

1052
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: I think he'll be in good shape here against Burgos.

1053
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 3: I think if he could lead the dance a little

1054
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: bit more and kind of play more of the predator

1055
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: than kind of just moving back, I think could be

1056
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 3: a at a better position to win that fight. Burgos

1057
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 3: is very tough, he does have some different weapons and

1058
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: his game as always, but I like Barbosa here as well.

1059
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 9: I know I'm mismanaging the clock a little bit today,

1060
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 9: but in terms of the main event challenge punishment real quick,

1061
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 9: I was thinking we could have kem Flo shave his head.

1062
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 9: But the problem with that is that reciprocally, if you said, Ian,

1063
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 9: if we lose that, I have to grow my hair

1064
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 9: and you have to shave your head, I know you'd

1065
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 9: save your head because you're just game. But like, if

1066
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 9: you told me I had to grow my hair for

1067
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 9: like three months as punishment for losing the main event challenge,

1068
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 9: I'd rather drink a bottle of chilled soy sauce. You know,

1069
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 9: there's no way that's something that somebody had to do.

1070
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 9: Fraternity HAZINGI was my younger brother, God bless him. But

1071
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 9: you know, like, I'm not growing my hair as punishment.

1072
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 9: I'd rather do almost anything else, Like, well, John, can

1073
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 9: I interject here? Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Cody.

1074
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 8: As a fan of this program, and we're on our

1075
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 8: three hundredth episode here a really historic thing in MMA.

1076
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 8: We're not really the best at, you know, doing these

1077
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 8: challenges or like punishment, agree as somebody who owes the punishment.

1078
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 9: So that's all, thank you, Kenny. Before we get to

1079
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 9: Ian's take on this, would you shave your head if

1080
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 9: you lose?

1081
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 6: Or no?

1082
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely not?

1083
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 9: All right? Are kids on television? No, goddamn way?

1084
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: Do so many fans too? Because how many just tuned

1085
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 3: in for the hair alone?

1086
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 9: I'd say a lot, Ian, what do you have for

1087
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 9: me on that?

1088
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 10: Well?

1089
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 13: If Kenny shaved his head, it looked really weird, saying

1090
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 13: next to Randy on TV you'd have hair looking like

1091
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 13: to like an ass just on TV. Comebe, it'd be

1092
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 13: really weird. I I can't.

1093
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: I alady looked like an ass on TV.

1094
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 5: Bro great.

1095
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 13: Uh my nose does not play the role of a

1096
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 13: shaved head at all. Have you seen this thing? The

1097
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 13: more I'm on this and TV, I noticed it's my

1098
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 13: issue too. Do this thing is like, really you would

1099
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 13: think I thought as much as Kenny the way my

1100
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 13: ears and nose it's terrible.

1101
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 9: Alright, I guess you will come up different.

1102
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 13: We're not going to lose, So I'm not really worried son.

1103
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 13: I really want to find something that Kenny will hate,

1104
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 13: that won't like be bad, you know, like he'll have

1105
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 13: to wear like a duck outfit every for at least

1106
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 13: like all pay per view events on the show or

1107
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 13: something like that. You know, I have to I love

1108
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 13: my best friend Ian Parker.

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00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 9: At least we'll figure something. We'll figure something out.

1110
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna invent duck cle Just don't make it a

1111
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: follow on Instagram and we'll be because that's not happening.

1112
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: I don't want it anymore.

1113
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 9: At Flyway, Caitlin chukeg in minus one forty Viviani outa

1114
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 9: Uzo plus one twenty so chu keg In. I thought

1115
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 9: Ian looked great November win over Cynthia Calviot. Uzo's won

1116
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 9: two in a row. She beat Roxy Moda Fery earlier

1117
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 9: this year. What do you have for us on this one?

1118
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 9: In the women's flyweight division?

1119
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: Interesting?

1120
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 5: Fine.

1121
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 12: I think Chakji in here gets it done.

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00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 13: I think just she presents a lot of problems with

1123
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 13: people with our heighten her range, and I think she

1124
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 13: knows how to really use it well against a shorter opponent.

1125
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 13: And I think Vivian fights similar to Cynthia, although a

1126
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 13: little bit of a better striker. I don't think she's

1127
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 13: gonna have issues getting in tight. So I'm gonna go

1128
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 13: with Chukji in here.

1129
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 9: Cancel Chukegian outa ujo. Who do you have?

1130
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I think for a ujo she would have

1131
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: the advantage if she's able to take her down and

1132
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 3: get on top. I think that's where she can win

1133
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: this fight. I just don't think she's gonna be able

1134
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: to do it. I think that, like Ian said, I

1135
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: think the is going to be a problem, especially you know,

1136
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: if Chakegian's at the top of her game. If it's

1137
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: Jakegian that is out there shark moving, you know, preventing

1138
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: the takedown going some takedout somebody late in the rounds Uh.

1139
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: I think chakeagian' is gonna win this fight, and I

1140
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 3: have to agree.

1141
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 9: With Ian all right, Ken Flow is going to lead

1142
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 9: us on the co main event and the main event

1143
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 9: today because I'm a total dick, but I'm giving you

1144
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 9: time because we still have a featured about here that

1145
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 9: Ian's gonna lead on. So there's your warning that you're

1146
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 9: leading us on Benny Daryush Ferguson and uh and Chandler.

1147
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: Roll of Era.

1148
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 9: But at middleweight, Ian, what do you have for us on?

1149
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 9: Jack Romanson minus one sixty versus Edmund Schabazi in plus

1150
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 9: one forty?

1151
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 12: Very very hard fight to cap here.

1152
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 13: You know, we don't know what Edmund Shabazi and we're

1153
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 13: gonna get after that last loss. He's been out for

1154
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 13: a while, you know, and you know obviously we saw

1155
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 13: him controlled by Derek against the cage.

1156
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 12: Jack might present a lot of problems.

1157
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 13: You know, if Jack smart, he bolt rushes him and

1158
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 13: puts him against the cage and brings him down real quick.

1159
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 13: I'm hoping Shabazian is working on that, but I just

1160
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 13: can't rely on that knockout power getting done so quick.

1161
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 13: Jack's experience, he's fought the best of the best. You know,

1162
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 13: when you get your first loss, it's so hard to

1163
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 13: judge how these young guys come back so quickly. So

1164
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 13: I have to think that the fight a q of

1165
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 13: Hermanson gets it done. I think Kenny might be looking

1166
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 13: his chops here at a value plan Shabazi and striking,

1167
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 13: so maybe, but again in Kenny's blood, I'm gonna go

1168
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 13: with Jack here.

1169
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 9: I in referenced that Shabazian lost his first pro loss

1170
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 9: at a main event against Derek Brunson. That was back

1171
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 9: on August first of last year. Kenny Hermanson off a

1172
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 9: main event loss, but literally as spirited a performance in

1173
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 9: defeat in my mind against Marvin Vittoria as I've seen

1174
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 9: in a long time, Like I would just tell you

1175
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 9: I'm calling the fight, but like, there's no way I

1176
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 9: would walk to a window and bet against Jack er

1177
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 9: Manson after that display of heart and desire, like he

1178
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 9: just wants it so badly. Y'all know how I feel

1179
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 9: about it. Edmund Shabazi and I anointed him on the

1180
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 9: Adasanya letl and ate Crow and all that. I'm just saying,

1181
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 9: Jacker Manson so desirous of MMA and UFC glory that

1182
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 9: I just wouldn't be fading the guy. What do you

1183
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 9: have for us on this one of eighty five kids?

1184
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: I tell you what I would agree with a lot

1185
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: of that, a lot of both of you guys, said Hermanson.

1186
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: I think is as tough as they come. I think

1187
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: where he falls short and why I don't see him

1188
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 3: perhaps you know, getting belt in the UFC right, which

1189
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: is difficult for anyone. No matter what I think, He's

1190
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 3: athleticism just falls short from some of the elite guys,

1191
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: and I certainly think it does so here against Shabasi

1192
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: and what I mean about by athleticism, just to be clear,

1193
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: is just the way that he moves his body. He

1194
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: a little robotic with his striking. He's a little stiff.

1195
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 6: You know.

1196
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: It hasn't quite picked up the striking. It's gotten better,

1197
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: but he's not going to be at the level of

1198
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 3: a Shabasian, right, He's not. He'll never be an out

1199
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: of Sognia from what I can tell. But he's tough

1200
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: as nails. He makes up for it with heart. He

1201
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 3: makes up for it for conditioning. You know, He'll keep

1202
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 3: moving forward. But I think that this, like probably the

1203
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: first seven is eight minutes, is going to be most

1204
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: dangerous for him. That's where Shabazi can really take advantage.

1205
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take that bet. I'm actually gonna go with

1206
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 3: Shabazi in here. But as you guys said, I mean,

1207
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: not a whole lot of people go out there and

1208
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 3: finish for Manson. Her Medson has a chin from hell.

1209
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna take that gamble because I need some

1210
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 3: motherfucking points.

1211
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 9: Well, and I hear you in terms of the plus athlete,

1212
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 9: in the athleticism and the way these athletes move their body.

1213
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 9: It's always fascinating for me to see a UFC fighter

1214
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 9: shoot a basketball, right go watch Seedel gone. Oh my

1215
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 9: goddamn basketball, fucking eat your ass. That didn't sound great.

1216
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 3: Sorry for you chose that, Johnny. I don't want any

1217
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: I don't want any part of that game, john That

1218
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: sounds like a weird game that I.

1219
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 9: Don't see in some of these athletes, like like on

1220
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 9: a golf on a golf course, you know what I mean?

1221
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 9: Like that, Intel, John.

1222
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: That is the way he swings his club.

1223
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 13: The ultimate test of any athlete, you see them shoot

1224
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 13: a basketball. So if there's a hockey player that can

1225
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 13: do a layup and not look like he's a three

1226
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 13: year old, he's an athlete.

1227
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: Some of these guys exactly.

1228
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 13: I mean, if you go watch them of these pick

1229
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 13: up basketball games that are floating around the internet from

1230
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 13: Fight Island, whatever they were doing, some of these guys

1231
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 13: look like they are literally right handers playing lefty. It's hilarious.

1232
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 13: It's true though. It's a great.

1233
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 9: Test playing golf with Danny Cormier out I having the

1234
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 9: kid by one hundred and fifty yards, say, what's going on?

1235
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 6: All right?

1236
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 9: Cole main event, but Neil Daryusch minus one forty five,

1237
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 9: Tony Ferguson plus one twenty five, Kenny will need the round,

1238
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 9: the method of victory, all that stuff. So dar USh

1239
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 9: beat Diego Fajeita. That was a fight of the night

1240
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 9: back in early February of this year. Ferguson has lost

1241
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 9: two in a row since his historic twelve fight UFC

1242
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 9: lightweight winning streak. Who do you have in the comin event?

1243
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 10: Can flow on?

1244
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 9: How do they get it done?

1245
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 6: Jeez?

1246
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: This is an interesting one. I think to a certain extent,

1247
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: both guys are very similar. On the feet, dar Yusch

1248
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 3: is kind of believing in his chin almost too much.

1249
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 3: In some ways. He is taking some big shots that

1250
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: concerns me here against a guy like Tony Ferguson who

1251
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: will throw anything in everything at you, So he's got

1252
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: to be careful there. Ferguson is so tough. But I

1253
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 3: do think Benil is also smart in some ways that

1254
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: he's going to see what that blueprint was for Charles

1255
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 3: Olivera and he's gonna go you know what, I see

1256
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 3: a vulnerability on the ground. Daryush has vastly improved his

1257
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: takedowns is wrestling. I think he's going to go that route.

1258
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 3: He's gonna trade when he needs to. He's going to

1259
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 3: pressure Tony Ferguson, He's going to back him up, he's

1260
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 3: gonna take him down, and he's going to try to

1261
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 3: do the exact thing that Charles Olivera did. Now can

1262
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 3: he do that? Yes? I believe he can. Benil Darusch

1263
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 3: is a high level of Brazilian jitsu black belt. He's

1264
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: very good, particularly when he's on that in that top position.

1265
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: I think he'll be able to do that and either

1266
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: get a t KO or a submission. You need a

1267
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 3: round and you need to finish, right, you need a Yeah,

1268
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: let's go. Yeah, let's go round two TKO.

1269
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 9: Round two t KO for Benil Darcus is the pick

1270
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 9: for Ken Flow.

1271
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 13: Talk to me, Yeah, I I don't respectfully disagree with

1272
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 13: with Kenny on this one.

1273
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go Tony well number one.

1274
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 13: I'm gonna say Tony doesn't get finished very easily.

1275
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: And you know with Neil.

1276
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 13: One thing through with Kenny is that he's getting very

1277
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 13: very trusting in his hands and his chin.

1278
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 12: Not that I'm thinking Tony's going in there and knocking

1279
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 12: him out.

1280
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 13: I just have a hard time seeing Tony losing three

1281
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 13: in a row, getting dominated three times in a row.

1282
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 13: I mean, let's be real here, But Neil dire used

1283
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 13: maybe a highlevel black belt. Know Charles olivera on the ground,

1284
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 13: you know at least that I've seen even on top?

1285
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 3: What does Charles Oliver wanted jiu jitsu? Just curious.

1286
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,959
Speaker 13: I'm talking about MMA, I'm not talking about anything else

1287
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 13: outside of that.

1288
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 3: Well, you can't say, you can't say bil Banil Daryush

1289
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 3: is not a Charles Olivera, though in my opinion, I

1290
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: mean he hasn't. He hasn't done, he hasn't submitted him

1291
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 3: as m he isn't doesn't have as many submissions as

1292
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Speaker 3: say Charles Olivera. But uh, I think Daryush is certainly

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Speaker 3: a high level percentage to black belt. There's no question

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Speaker 3: for his division for sure.

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Speaker 5: Auto.

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Speaker 13: Look, there's no question he's a high level black belt.

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Speaker 13: I'm just speaking specifically in their MMA careers, their styles.

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Speaker 13: You know, Benil has not used his jiu jitsu as much.

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Speaker 13: He's tried to be a striker first wrestler, second jiu

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00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,479
Speaker 13: jitsu there as opposed to Olivera, who's been now using

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Speaker 13: his range to set up his jiu jitsu. You know,

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Speaker 13: do I think that if you went outside of the

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Speaker 13: realm of MMA, would they both you know, you want

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Speaker 13: to talk.

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Speaker 12: Straight jiu jitsu very similar levels.

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Speaker 13: I agree with you there, But strictly in their UFC careers,

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Speaker 13: I just think al Vera has been more dominant in

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00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 13: his jiu jitsu game than dari USh just because of

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00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 13: the style. You know, do I think do I think

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Speaker 13: that you know, and when you want to talk striking,

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Speaker 13: I think Daryush has a better striking than Olivera, carries

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Speaker 13: the power better than Olivera, and he's way more unpredictable.

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Speaker 12: I'm hoping maybe this is more of a hope than

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Speaker 12: a thing.

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Speaker 3: I love be.

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Speaker 13: Neil dari Yush. I think he is a very bright prospect.

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Speaker 13: I think we're past that point. But he hasn't fought

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Speaker 13: anyone at this level yet, and I just think Tony

1319
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 13: has to go there, and I think he has to

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Speaker 13: get on top. I think he has to turn this

1321
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Speaker 13: into a technical striking match. And I'm taking a shot here.

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Speaker 13: I'm not overly confident, but Tony Ferguson these dog odds

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Speaker 13: against a guy like dar are you. I'm gonna go

1324
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Speaker 13: Tony here, But Kenny, I think you might be right

1325
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Speaker 13: with the pick.

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Speaker 3: Tony Ferguson by decision.

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Speaker 9: Sorry, all right, Maine event for the vacant UFC lightweight title.

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Speaker 9: Charles Olivera the minus one thirty betting favorite right now,

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Speaker 9: Michael Chandler is plus one ten. Kenny will need the

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Speaker 9: round and the method of victory. Would it not be

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Speaker 9: something if the Houston, Texas based Brazilian Charles Lavera, after

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Speaker 9: making his UFC debut in twoenty ten at twenty one

1333
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Speaker 9: years of age, right most decorated submission artists in UFC history,

1334
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Speaker 9: at least as far as the record books are concerned.

1335
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Speaker 9: What a story it would be Kenny if he could

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Speaker 9: break through in his American now hometown and become the

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Speaker 9: undersuited UFC lightweight champion. When I think about the body

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Speaker 9: of work and all the early fights of his that

1339
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Speaker 9: you and I were, and the adversity and the injury,

1340
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Speaker 9: and the Max Holloway main event and the different weight classes.

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Speaker 9: I know there's a Chandler side of this, but if

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Speaker 9: Charles olivera can add an undisputed UFC lightweight championship to

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Speaker 9: his legacy uf Small of Famer, for me, what are

1344
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Speaker 9: your thoughts on what's in front of the Brazil Charles

1345
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 9: two bronch Oliver this weekend, Kenny and ultimately who wins

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Speaker 9: the fight?

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Speaker 3: Listen. I think it's amazing what Charles Oliver has done.

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Speaker 3: You look at who he was to who he is now.

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Speaker 3: It's completely different. Everything has gotten better, from his striking

1350
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Speaker 3: to wrestling to his jiu jitsu. Everything is much much sharper,

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Speaker 3: and I think he understands that, which is maybe the

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Speaker 3: most important ingredient in all of that. He believes in

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00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: his style and he believes in what he's trying to

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Speaker 3: do out there when he goes out to fight. And

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Speaker 3: I think that all that experience that he has had

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Speaker 3: in the UFC, and you know, people are knocking his

1357
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: record and he hasn't beaten this guy, hasn't been that,

1358
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 3: but he's been learning throughout that process and he's getting

1359
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Speaker 3: w's throughout that process for the most part, and I

1360
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 3: think that really counts for something. And I do think

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Speaker 3: he's facing a tough stylistic match of the matchup though,

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Speaker 3: in Michael Chandler. I think that Chandler has the wrestling

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Speaker 3: skills to prevent the takedowns from it even going down

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Speaker 3: to the ground. And I think that, you know, if

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Speaker 3: we were to judge both guys on speed and power,

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Speaker 3: I think that we would agree that Chandler is probably

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Speaker 3: the faster and more powerful guy. Now, can he go

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Speaker 3: out there and do that against an Olivera who has

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Speaker 3: some nice long range weapons. I think he can. I

1370
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Speaker 3: think it's gonna take him a little bit of time

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Speaker 3: to get into that range, but I think he can

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Speaker 3: do enough to perhaps frustrate Olivera to get on the

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Speaker 3: inside to back up Olivera, to take away those kicks

1374
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Speaker 3: and to kind of have a similar game plan to

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Speaker 3: what he did here against Dan Hangman Hooker. So I

1376
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 3: think that I like Chandler here. I think Chandler gets

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Speaker 3: let's go with a let's go with the fourth round TKO.

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Speaker 9: Michael Chandler, Michael Chandler, fourth round TKO. Our executive producer

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Speaker 9: Cody Merrow is a huge Chandler fan, and Cody will

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Speaker 9: be celebrating his twenty eighth birthday in my seat in

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Speaker 9: the building in Euston, Texas at UFC two sixties too.

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Speaker 9: I've never even met the kid, so he probably is

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Speaker 9: enjoying that prediction there. Ian Paul results Anna Florian Pod

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Speaker 9: three thousand votes fifty four percent for Michael Chandler at

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Speaker 9: plus one ten. Ken Flow falls on that side as well.

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Speaker 9: What do you think about the main event?

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Speaker 13: I'm gonna piggyback with Kenny here. So the one thing

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Speaker 13: that we have seen with Olivera at any of his losses,

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Speaker 13: you take the fight to him, he kind of folds

1390
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 13: and quits. He doesn't like body shots as much as

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01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 13: he is good at being on bottom when there's a

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01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 13: guy on top who can just get that just go

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01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 13: into even half a side mount, even a little bit,

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Speaker 13: get that leg out of full guardn OLIVERA he gets

1395
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 13: pussed a lot on the bottom. You know, he almost

1396
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 13: accepts too much damage in order to get the submissions.

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Speaker 13: And Chandler is just such a powerhouse, you know. I

1398
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 13: think to point this was the one person that I

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Speaker 13: would have not I was Oliver and not wanted to

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Speaker 13: fight in this position. Tell about a guy who was

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Speaker 13: short and stocky. Oliver is not getting a double legg

1402
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 13: takedown or a single leg on him. If he gets

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Speaker 13: into the ground or on top, It's gonna be somehow

1404
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Speaker 13: against the cage where he's gonna get on Chandler's back.

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Speaker 3: That's the only way I.

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Speaker 12: See that happening in the first round before they get slippery.

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Speaker 13: Chandler is just gonna bring too much pressure, too much

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Speaker 13: aggressiveness to body shots.

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Speaker 12: You know, he's gonna be able to get in tight.

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01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 13: If alliveric could work that clinch game, the issue will

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01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 13: find there is I think Chandler is savvy enough in

1412
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 13: the wrestling game to get a lift and slam him

1413
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 13: in that situation, which again Oliver does not like to

1414
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Speaker 13: be slammed either.

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Speaker 12: I like Chandler here.

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01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: I don't think it gets to round four.

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Speaker 13: If Chandler does win, I'm gonna even go out and

1418
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 13: women say if he gets it done, he gets it

1419
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 13: done in round one or two. I'm gonna, you know what,

1420
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 13: I'm gonna take a stab at this. I'm gonna say

1421
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 13: round one TKO for Michael Chandler. He's gonna come out

1422
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 13: the gate hot confidence building and that power and that division.

1423
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 13: Outside of Justin Gats, I don't know who else really

1424
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 13: carries it with that one punch. So I'm gonna go

1425
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 13: Chandler by TKO round one.

1426
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 9: All right, Both our guys like Michael Chandler to become

1427
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 9: the undisputed UFC lightweight Champion. On social media, you can

1428
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Speaker 9: find Ian at Ian Parker MMA, my man. Good to

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Speaker 9: hear your voice and see your face. We will talk

1430
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Speaker 9: to you next week.

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Speaker 6: You got it?

1432
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Speaker 3: Thanks?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? All right?

1434
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Speaker 9: There he is Ian Parker with us for the main

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Speaker 9: event challenge. And we do have more handicapping to come

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Speaker 14: All I have to do is bet on the winner,

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Speaker 14: and I'll never leave him.

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Speaker 9: John Hannag and Kenny Florian podcast, All right now with

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Speaker 9: us from team odd Shark. I was on one. I

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Speaker 9: was on t mod Shark actually at one point in

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Speaker 9: time in the Las Vegas Super Contest. Hopefully at some

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Speaker 9: point in the distant future we're on t mod Shark again.

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Speaker 9: But he has sports betting analyst Joe Osbourne, and I

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Speaker 9: just like this energy.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 9: I'm not gonna lie, especially during a pay per view week, Joe.

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Speaker 9: Before we get to your main event selection, this main

1458
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 9: card opener, I expect to draw a lot of action

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Speaker 9: and two way action, potentially fascinating featherweight matchup Edsen Barbosa

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Speaker 9: Shane Burgos pick him fight essentially right now, and as

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Speaker 9: I understand it, you are going to have a ticket

1462
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 9: on this fight.

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Speaker 14: Yes, yeah, this is my favorite bet on the whole card,

1464
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Speaker 14: and it is.

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Speaker 10: On Edsen Barbosa.

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Speaker 14: He is a underdog at a lot of books, a

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Speaker 14: small one plus one oh five at some spots, and

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Speaker 14: I think the roll Man is favored here. I like

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Speaker 14: Barbosa quite a bit. I think he's looked great at

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Speaker 14: featherweight so far. I do think he got screwed in

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Speaker 14: the D and E Gay fight a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 14: of course I bet on him, so I got screwed

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Speaker 14: as well, but he was on the wrong wrong end

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Speaker 14: of a split decision. But either way, you know, he

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Speaker 14: comes out and he follows that up with the W.

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Speaker 14: So I do think he's looked fantastic at this weight class.

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Speaker 14: Then we look at Shane Burgos. He's coming off a

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Speaker 14: very violent loss, isn't he the thud on some of

1479
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Speaker 14: those punters that he took against Josh Emmont.

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Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't very pretty.

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Speaker 14: You know, he had some bright spots in that fight

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01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 14: as well, but he came off in that fight as

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Speaker 14: maybe a little defensively challenged. Now he's going into this

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Speaker 14: fight and he's expected to rebound against what very well

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Speaker 14: could be the best striker that he will face up

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Speaker 14: until this point of his career. So I like Barbosa

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Speaker 14: quite a bit there plus one oh five. I think

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Speaker 14: that's an incredible spot.

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Speaker 9: And I am a big fan, I guess as big

1490
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 9: a fan as any Bostonian can be of the New Yorker. Right,

1491
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 9: So I'm a big Shane Burgos fan. But when I

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Speaker 9: do my predictive measures for the lines, I had Barbosa

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Speaker 9: minus one sixty and Burgos plus one forty. So certainly

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Speaker 9: I was a bit surprised to see I mean, Kenny

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01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 9: in terms of the experience, I just I don't know,

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01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 9: I just like feel like that maybe hasn't necessarily been

1497
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Speaker 9: factored in, but for sure we'll see, all right. So

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Speaker 9: Charles Olivera versus Michael Chandler Joe minus one thirty. I

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Speaker 9: saw on Charles Olivera plus one ten on Michael Chandler,

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Speaker 9: but you might have a different number both of our guys.

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01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 9: Ken Filohonian Parker do like Michael Chandler in the role

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01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,919
Speaker 9: of road underdog here, with Olivera being the Houston based guy.

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Speaker 9: What do you think about the main event and where

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Speaker 9: does your action fall?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I like the way this line's moving. You know,

1506
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 14: Olivera opened that around minus one sixty dan Ta around

1507
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 14: minus one twenty five. So sadly, I got to disagree

1508
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 14: with the fellas, and I think disagree with the pole

1509
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 14: as well. I think that the pole was on Taydler's

1510
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 14: side there. So I like Olivera quite a bit. So

1511
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 14: prior to the Ferguson fight, I came on. I picked

1512
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 14: Olivera as an underdog and I said, at this point

1513
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 14: of his career, I think he is at the perfect

1514
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 14: intersection of experience and ability. And he comes and he

1515
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 14: made me look pretty damn good in that fight, didn't

1516
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 14: he Like, let's sugarcoat it. He absolutely dominated Tony Ferguson.

1517
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 14: And I don't have to come on and read off

1518
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 14: his resume. I will a little bit, though. And one

1519
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 14: thing that I find funny about Olavera is he has

1520
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 14: almost as many fights in the UFC as he does

1521
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 14: years on this planet. Right, So he's surely a guy

1522
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 14: that is putting it all together right now. You know,

1523
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 14: he did make a lot of mistakes early in his

1524
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 14: career and some ugly losses, and he's absolutely learning from those,

1525
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 14: so I do think he is the more well rounded fighter,

1526
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 14: and I do think he does have more pass to victory.

1527
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 14: As for Chandler, not a whole lot of negatives really,

1528
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 14: you know, you look at that debut versus Dan Hooker.

1529
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 14: I don't think Hooker looked especially sure, but that's not

1530
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 14: Chandler's fault.

1531
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 5: He took full.

1532
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 14: Advantage of that, right, So not a whole lot of

1533
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 14: negatives there. I think the odds are right on this one.

1534
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 14: It should be a close fight. I do like olivera

1535
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 14: one thing that I really do want to point out

1536
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 14: here for a couple of different reasons, and it's the

1537
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 14: importance of Olivery getting out of that first round. Because

1538
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 14: we take a look at chandler seventeen finishes in his career,

1539
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 14: thirteen of those occurred in the first round of the fight.

1540
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 14: So I very much think you like, we have these

1541
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 14: fighters like the Francis and Gan who's econor McGregor's, and

1542
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 14: when people are breaking down the fights, the opinion is, well,

1543
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 14: if you can get out of the first round with

1544
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 14: that guy, your chances of winning that fight are gonna

1545
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 14: improve dramatically. I absolutely think you have to put Chaidler

1546
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 14: in that same category as those guys, So it's going

1547
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 14: to be very important for OLIVERT to survive the first round.

1548
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 14: And I do have a hard time also seeing this

1549
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 14: one going to decision right, both of these guys are finishers,

1550
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 14: so I wouldn't be surprised. I haven't seen odds out

1551
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 14: for a prop yet Oliver by submission, Maybe I wouldn't

1552
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 14: be shocked to see it, but I'm just gonna play

1553
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 14: it safe and take him as the minus one twenty

1554
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 14: five favorite in this one, and.

1555
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 3: It should be.

1556
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 5: It should be a great fight, pretty full for it.

1557
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 9: I think we get a finish, and as you alluded to,

1558
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 9: that price on OLIVERA apparently continues to get better. So

1559
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 9: my twin brother basically rides everything that you're throwing out there,

1560
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 9: and he's not paying for your selection. So if somebody

1561
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 9: I know we got at Jtfoz on Twitter, at pay

1562
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 9: per Chase and Joe on Instagram. If somebody wants to

1563
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 9: get your free selections on a day to day basis,

1564
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 9: how do they go about doing that?

1565
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 14: Everything's on Twitter, man, whether it's a link to the

1566
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 14: YouTube show or sometimes like I work Monday through Friday, right,

1567
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 14: So just on weekends.

1568
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 3: I'll just post a couple of my picks.

1569
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 5: For the day.

1570
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 14: Right now, it's every day Major League Baseball. That's my

1571
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 14: main sport. NBA playoffs coming right up. Of course, UFC stuff.

1572
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 14: I dabble in NASCAR from time to time. During the

1573
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 14: first during the pandemic, when the only things going on

1574
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 14: was UFC and NASCAR, I was betting on NASCAR every weekend,

1575
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 14: and I actually grew a bit of an appreciation for

1576
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 14: the sport. So yeah, find me all My work is

1577
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 14: on Twitter, jtfoz, whether it be just easy picks or

1578
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 14: a link to a YouTube video or over to my Instagram.

1579
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 9: Maybe I love it. But man, hey, I bet NASCAR,

1580
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 9: but I don't watch it until the final several laps.

1581
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 14: You know, Well that's it, right, Like you track it

1582
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 14: on your phone and then you go and you'll watch

1583
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 14: like the final stage of the race or whatever. And

1584
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 14: NASCAR is kind of like golf, right, people aren't tuning

1585
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 14: in here for Nascar betting advice, but you know, and golf,

1586
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 14: you know, most people think you just picked the outright winner.

1587
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 14: If you're going to bet NASCAR, bet top fives, top tens,

1588
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 14: you know, head to heads stuff. Like that, and you

1589
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 14: have give yourself a little bit more skin in the game.

1590
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 14: If you're looking for some NASCAR advice.

1591
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 9: There, Ken Flow is probably betting F one all time score.

1592
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 9: His mouth shut over there, all right, Joe Osborne, great

1593
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 9: to talk to you, buddy. Enjoy UFC two sixty two

1594
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 9: and we'll talk to you in a couple of weeks,

1595
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 9: my man.

1596
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 14: Great, guys, thanks again for having me. Good luck to you,

1597
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 14: and good luck to all the listeners out there.

1598
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 9: Thank you, my man. There is Joe Osborne at jtfoz

1599
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 9: on DraftKings Sportsbook right now. Largest underdog at UFC two

1600
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 9: sixty two Gina Mazani. So a lot of these lines

1601
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 9: are very close, and that is a nod to the

1602
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 9: executives Dana White in the Matchmakers that UFC two sixty

1603
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 9: two appears to be well matched. So the star of

1604
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 9: the show is Ray Longo, and we have buried him

1605
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 9: at the bottom of our three hundredth episode. There is

1606
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 9: a reason for doing that, but we're not going to

1607
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 9: make him wait anymore. Let's let's get to Some viewers

1608
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 9: may find the following video disturbing. Viewer discretion is advised.

1609
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes.

1610
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 3: And I'm going to punch a hole in this fucking

1611
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: shows The Ray Longo.

1612
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 9: Minute Stray the John.

1613
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 4: Nick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1614
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 9: There he is three minutes Raymond lead long ago.

1615
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 6: How are you, Jim good?

1616
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 9: Are you offended by the Red Sox hat?

1617
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 5: Definitely not all right?

1618
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 9: We're we're speeding, so don't say anything outrageous. It's nice

1619
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 9: to see you. What do you think about this? Twelve

1620
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 9: thirty pm Eastern call time?

1621
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 3: Today?

1622
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 9: We've been asking for you a little bit. Uh, you

1623
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 9: like doing it a little bit later?

1624
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 5: What this was good?

1625
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 15: It's just I have to do it at the gym

1626
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 15: because I start teaching it like one. So but now

1627
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 15: my one canceled, So I'm good for whatever you guys want.

1628
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 9: Okay, well, I'm glad you're one PM canceled. And by

1629
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 9: the way, Ken Flow's got a new studio. You see

1630
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 9: that picture of him choking out Clay Geda behind it,

1631
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 9: I love.

1632
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 6: It, love it.

1633
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 9: So you're telling me that, oh look.

1634
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 6: Today? Wait, you know what, guys?

1635
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 5: Did he clip his toenails?

1636
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 6: You know I can hear you.

1637
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 5: We could hear you even if you didn't have a mic.

1638
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 7: I wanna I want to thank my buddy ray Law.

1639
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 7: I'm not on Twitter, but he sent me last night.

1640
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 7: I don't know when to fucking to him. It's probably

1641
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 7: like mid afternoon. I think I probably got it like

1642
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 7: two thirty in the morning. A picture from Twitter of

1643
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 7: my fucking toenails. And let me tell you something. They

1644
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 7: were fucking long and dec so this morning, were long

1645
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 7: sleeping around like eight a m. I was in my

1646
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 7: steam shower at Sarah b J. You wake up long ago.

1647
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 15: Oh gosh, this ain't gonna be a commercial school, can

1648
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 15: get this.

1649
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 6: I cut my.

1650
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 15: This morning and left him in the steam shower. I'm

1651
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,480
Speaker 15: sure somebody.

1652
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 6: It's my fucking shower. Whatever the fuck I.

1653
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 9: Want ages na names on the building.

1654
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 7: Put him in an ovelope and sent him to Ray Yeah,

1655
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 7: disgusting ship. They go down the next team shower. But anyway, guys,

1656
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 7: the three hundred three hundreds, so we made it.

1657
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 9: How about that? How about that? Well, you guys.

1658
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 15: Probably I want to know whose idea this was, seriously

1659
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 15: your fire whoever.

1660
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 9: It was, all right, we'll tell you after the fact.

1661
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 9: Hey Maddie, that your beard looks good. I haven't seen

1662
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 9: your beard that long. Was in a little auburn in

1663
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 9: that beard is uh.

1664
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 6: Paul Felder. No, but how am I looking? I think

1665
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 6: I'm shiny right now?

1666
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 9: It look no, I look, but the beard. I don't

1667
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 9: know that I've ever seen you with that much face.

1668
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 7: Well, listen, the thing is this, I don't have anything

1669
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 7: to work with up top.

1670
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 6: They're down with angles.

1671
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 7: But speaking of speaking of fucking melons, long ago, I

1672
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 7: don't know talk to you.

1673
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,480
Speaker 6: Was it was it? Belmos, your wife, your kids.

1674
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 7: You're looking so much better, buddy, got rid of that

1675
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 7: fucking mop.

1676
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 6: You were looking like. Dude, you walk in the boor.

1677
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 7: He's got his hand down with shoulders, a toothpick in

1678
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 7: his mouth, with a banjo like a fucking Willie Nelson.

1679
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 6: Kenny. I thought he was losing his fucking mind. Oh,

1680
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. He's right there, but you're a mini god.

1681
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,839
Speaker 9: A minute, Hey, Maddie.

1682
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 5: So and you guys are liking this. This is well,

1683
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 5: this is what you want.

1684
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 9: So mad has a very busy schedule, right he's at

1685
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 9: the gym. Yeah, but he had he needed a nap.

1686
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 9: He needs a nap, So we allowed him to have

1687
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,959
Speaker 9: his aily nap so he'd be firing on all cylinders,

1688
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 9: which he obviously.

1689
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 15: Had he did his five hour energy and my wife

1690
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 15: I lived LONGO, I lived this ship cut your head, o, Bro.

1691
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 9: So I know you both are up against the clock

1692
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,839
Speaker 9: a little bit with all your privates and your teaching

1693
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 9: and everything else. Rid of me, Bro, I'm not trying

1694
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 9: to get rid of you. I'm not trying to get

1695
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 9: rid of you at all. I think I have twenty

1696
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 9: three minutes with you.

1697
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 5: John. You can't disguise it with him. You just gotta

1698
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 5: throw them off.

1699
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 15: Come on, so hey, mad you know you got a

1700
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 15: busy schedule, mat, So we'll talk to you later.

1701
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 5: Ship long.

1702
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 6: It might be a minute.

1703
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 9: But so, Matt, you and I had the chance to

1704
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 9: spend a lot of time together on Fight Island at airports,

1705
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 9: like dude, that w hotel and yeas Island is such

1706
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 9: an intoxicating place. Like are you having withdrawals? Like I

1707
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 9: am Like, I'm I'm trying to get back to Fight

1708
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 9: Island right now? Am I am? I alone in that?

1709
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 7: All I know is I love the Buffer, But every

1710
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 7: time at that airport with him lately, I'm trying to

1711
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 7: avoid him.

1712
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, I'm.

1713
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 7: Gonna hear about Timbo people that died at Corona. I

1714
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 7: I normally love to see him, but I see coming

1715
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 7: over with.

1716
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 6: You. Hear about I'm listening.

1717
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 7: I go Longo fucking survived it. Okay, I go Longo

1718
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 7: survived it. Bruce, let me see your brucebit. Never mind

1719
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 7: is Bruce.

1720
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 3: Is Bruce scared of the Corona still or what?

1721
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 6: Well?

1722
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 7: Bruce, Yeah, Johnny sees the more than I do.

1723
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't. Yeah.

1724
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 9: Well, he's very diligent about the masks. And I think

1725
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 9: anybody who has lost respect for the like I've lost

1726
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 9: a little respect for the virus, right, meaning that I've

1727
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 9: let my guard down a little bit, he has not.

1728
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: So uh, you know, he still gives the pound. He

1729
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: still gives the pound in the octagon and stuff. Though.

1730
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 5: That's right, but he's still he still he still goes

1731
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 5: to the show.

1732
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 15: So it means he is if he's that guy, he's

1733
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 15: powering through that, you know what I'm saying. Like, I

1734
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 15: know guys that never came out of the house, and

1735
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 15: now they've vaccinated, they want to come back to gym,

1736
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 15: and they're actually asking me if I'm vaccinated, like I

1737
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 15: wasn't a little crazy though, Like it's just they're taking

1738
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 15: it to another level.

1739
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 5: Man, it really is.

1740
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

1741
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 15: I think that's crazy. You got to respect it. And

1742
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 15: I think Bruce didn't respect it because he was going

1743
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 15: to the show. Yeah, that's crazy right there, just going

1744
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 15: to the airport. So that'd be horrifying if he if

1745
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 15: he's that guy, you know, respects him.

1746
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 9: Here's the thing, and I don't I don't want to

1747
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 9: talk about COVID nineteen, but I will say, like, my

1748
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 9: younger brother is high risk because he had open heart surgery, uh,

1749
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 9: not all that long ago, and so there was a

1750
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 9: little I think post traumatic stuff going on there. But

1751
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 9: like he's now vaccinated and yesterday I saw on Mother's

1752
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 9: Day he hugged my mom for the first time of

1753
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 9: the year, you know, and without a mask on, you know,

1754
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 9: and that was nice to see.

1755
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 10: Uh.

1756
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 9: Anyway, Maddie, So I got to ask, man, when you're

1757
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 9: when you're watching that Chris Waman thing play out, I

1758
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 9: mean christ, I mean like, I mean, I I missed

1759
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,440
Speaker 9: a promo c like I fucked up on the broadcast

1760
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 9: there after, right, And I'm not nearly as close to

1761
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 9: this individual as you guys are, but I couldn't get

1762
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 9: my shit together, I'll tell you that.

1763
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was, dude, it was you know it. Listen.

1764
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 7: It's hard to watch if it's anybody, but it's worse

1765
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 7: if it's somebody you actually know what care about, and

1766
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 7: you know his parents and his kids, and it's like,

1767
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 7: oh my, you don't see what happened to anybody, you

1768
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 7: know what I mean.

1769
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 6: So for that to happen to.

1770
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 7: A friend, it's just just the only thing that makes

1771
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 7: me feel like better, like I mean, is that he's

1772
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 7: he's been through the apps worse, you know what I mean.

1773
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 6: I'm not saying about its path whatsoever. I know he's

1774
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 6: not a lot of a long road ahead.

1775
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 7: And you know, you don't wish this on your worst enemy,

1776
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But you know, you know

1777
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 7: the absolute worst, absolute is over.

1778
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 9: No, You're right, that's a good way to look at it.

1779
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 9: And he's out the other side of the surgery ray.

1780
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 9: When did you first meet Matt uh Man?

1781
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 15: I mean I first met him at my school, but

1782
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 15: I really first met him at jiu jitsu in the city,

1783
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 15: at Oishi Do dojo. But he had he had taken

1784
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 15: a buddy of his in who you know, was having

1785
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 15: some trouble, and I always tell this story. I think

1786
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 15: It speaks to volumes of the type of guy Matt was.

1787
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 15: He was probably seventeen or eighteen, I think right eighteen

1788
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 15: years old. He brought his friend and he was having

1789
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 15: trouble with drugs, and you know, he wanted to get

1790
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 15: him into a school. He thought martial arts would be

1791
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 15: great for him. So he came down to the school

1792
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 15: night that I distinctly remember. I remember talking to him

1793
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 15: because I had started jiu jitsu already and I think

1794
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 15: he was just doing seminars, right, was that a Longo

1795
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 15: talked about it. He thought I was bullshit and about

1796
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 15: the jiu jitsu because Kuckock was already in Manhattan, I believe.

1797
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 6: Is that correct? The noo Kuckock wasn't there yet.

1798
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 5: No, no, no, when you had Chioto in the school.

1799
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 6: He was, he was gonna be there suit or he

1800
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 6: was there. I don't know. No, No, not when I

1801
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 6: was seventeen. No, he wasn't there when I was seventeen.

1802
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 6: That was what you want. I met you down there.

1803
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 6: But Longo is a little fun fact. When I met

1804
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 6: Longo down to that place.

1805
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 7: At his chuk place in the kickboxing jym, he had

1806
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 7: his arm and his sling from a sparring incident where

1807
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 7: let me tell you this. He in the sparring, the

1808
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 7: arm got this located. He went through the sparring. He

1809
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 7: didn't stop the sparring. And I just say that, Kenny Longo,

1810
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 7: you know, I hate to give it compliments.

1811
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 6: Right or wrong.

1812
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 15: I love it and a broken nose, and I reset myself.

1813
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 9: You're as hard as rock.

1814
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 15: It wasn't a good day. Oh yeah, No, nobody even knew.

1815
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 15: I walked out of that play. I walked out of

1816
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 15: that boxing gym without nobody even knew anything.

1817
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 5: Was wrong with me. I went right to the hospital.

1818
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 5: I had the guys drive me right to the hospital.

1819
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 15: And there was a there was a guy in the

1820
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 15: uh he was the parking guy, but he said he

1821
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 15: was in med school or somebody.

1822
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 5: He looked at me, go, you gotta get to a

1823
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 5: hospital quick.

1824
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 3: And then how old were you back then? Right?

1825
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 15: I was at that point thirty six thirty five? Oh

1826
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 15: he was How old are you, man?

1827
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1828
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:31,879
Speaker 3: Eighteen?

1829
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 14: Wow?

1830
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 5: Now listen, Kenny, you know it's funny.

1831
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 15: I tell everybody, don't don't tell don't say anything to

1832
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 15: my wife, to anybody. Right, I'm in the emergency room.

1833
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 15: Here comes my mother walking through the door. I want

1834
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 15: to kill someone. What are you gonna stop and grow up?

1835
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 15: You know, I'm like thirty six with my arm had

1836
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 15: We don't even know what's out of the side.

1837
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 5: I don't even know.

1838
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 15: What's wrong yet. I just can't move my arms. It's

1839
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 15: been out for like four hours. And I was like,

1840
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 15: who the fuck told? I mean, like, are you and

1841
01:21:58,960 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 15: this guy Mario?

1842
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 6: I want to kill him?

1843
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 15: He told everybody. One by one they started walking into

1844
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 15: the emergency room. It was crazy, but uh, that's fun,

1845
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,520
Speaker 15: fun times.

1846
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 9: Mattie there kid, Oh, I think he's frozen.

1847
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 5: Oh he looks.

1848
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 9: Stoned in that shot right there. So Ray, what I

1849
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 9: was going to ask him? I have a few somewhat

1850
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 9: serious questions. But Sergio Pattis broke through and won a championship.

1851
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 9: Right now, his teammate Rayfeon starts, I believe is also

1852
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 9: in that promotion and division. If I'm not mistaken and

1853
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 9: said he would only fight him for the title. I'm

1854
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 9: curious for the two of you guys. If Morob and

1855
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 9: al Joe were the best two guys in the world,

1856
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 9: maybe they wouldn't fight each other, right, but would you

1857
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 9: let them fight?

1858
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 6: Ray?

1859
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 9: Would you let those two guys fight for the UFCS

1860
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 9: on just sput aandam Way title if they wanted to

1861
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 9: fight each other.

1862
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't be behingh. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be

1863
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 5: behind that at all. Oh yeah, sorry, he's back.

1864
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 9: I think No, Cody's going to try to clean him up.

1865
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 15: But yeah, no, I mean I'm thinking that now because

1866
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 15: Morob's at a point where he wins one or two. Man,

1867
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 15: he's where he wants to be. So I'm gonna say

1868
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 15: Morob definitely wouldn't do that.

1869
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

1870
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 5: I'm not behind that ship at all. I never was.

1871
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 5: Oh geez, that a freeze.

1872
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 9: Can we toss this get out?

1873
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 5: Can we block that out? And I can't even talk right,

1874
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 5: I know he's got his mouth opening.

1875
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 9: Incredible, he's sabotaging our podcast and his will be nice

1876
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 9: and clean at the top of the fuck. Oh exactly, yeah,

1877
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 9: get him out of here, Cody. So uh yeah, ray,

1878
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 9: So I got to own this. This was my idea,

1879
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 9: went on the sideways, my idea.

1880
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 5: Have you learned anything yet from me? Have you learned anything? So?

1881
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 9: I mean when Kenny Florian got married Kurt Pellegrino and sorry,

1882
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 9: I'm doing this was a replacement groomsman. Okay, there was

1883
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 9: a travel issue. Okay, I was hoping to get the call,

1884
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 9: but Kurt Pellegrino got the goddamn call. The replacement groomsmen. Okay,

1885
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 9: I'm not saying that Matt Sarah is the replacement groomsman today,

1886
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 9: but Forrest Griffin was scheduled to join us today and

1887
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 9: had to push it off a week. So, uh so,

1888
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 9: Maddy was a little bit of a pivot. Now, Maddy back,

1889
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 9: we're back.

1890
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 5: Initially we complimented you for ten minutes. I hope you

1891
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 5: could hear it.

1892
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 6: I didn't hear shit, Maddie.

1893
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 9: I guess I'm just curious, Like if you had two guys,

1894
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 9: even if it wasn't Morob and al Joe, and they

1895
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 9: were the two best in the world right how I'm

1896
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 9: not saying you wouldn't corner anybody. I mean, you wouldn't

1897
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 9: corner anybody this, but like, how do you handle that?

1898
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 9: Because Morob is not that far off and I think

1899
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 9: the ceiling is championship for him. Like, how do you

1900
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 9: handle it if they come to you and say we're

1901
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 9: gonna fight since we're one and two right now?

1902
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 4: Uh?

1903
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 6: Fuck? Uh? In that kind of.

1904
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 5: Uh listen carried his own dw Joe.

1905
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 7: I'm joking. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta get out.

1906
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 7: I heard I heard Nick Sick wants to come on

1907
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 7: the show. You I'm fucking around anyway. Uh, listen, I

1908
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 7: know about that question. I don't I listen, man, I

1909
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 7: can't see those guys. I can't see more about this.

1910
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 7: I can never see those guys fighting this.

1911
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 9: They're so close. All right, let me ask you this, Yeah,

1912
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 9: what's that? Let me ask you this. I asked Ray this.

1913
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 9: I think Morob's gonna have a hard time getting fights

1914
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 9: because he's he's just such a pain in the ass matchup.

1915
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 9: What a great connection, oh man, I mean I have

1916
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 9: less serious questions for him, like when was the last

1917
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,719
Speaker 9: time you ate non gluten free pizza?

1918
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 6: I really like you.

1919
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 9: Yes, we hear you, hear in out, in and out.

1920
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 5: I'm actually in chuck. We can't hear them like just

1921
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 5: in the air.

1922
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 3: The swears always get.

1923
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 9: It's the opposite of what I'm.

1924
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 5: Well.

1925
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 9: We appreciate Matt Sarah's contribution. Thank you, Cody. Uh. If

1926
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 9: he can reconnect great. If he is in transit, uh,

1927
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 9: then you can listen to him on on the UFC

1928
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 9: sponsored podcast wherever that is ingested. I I I can't

1929
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 9: tell you right, it's great to see.

1930
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, but the other thing is like, man, I just

1931
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 15: hope that never happens, and I don't even want to

1932
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 15: deal with it.

1933
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 5: But my answer would be no right now.

1934
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 9: And I'm not trying to have that conversation. And I

1935
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 9: think they're My informed speculation is that they are closer

1936
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 9: than Sergio and Rayfon Stotts are, you know. But I

1937
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 9: do think that it's not totally out of the realm

1938
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 9: of possibility, you know, I don't know. I think it's

1939
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 9: gonna be hard for me rob to to to get

1940
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 9: to get fights. Man, I'm turning that dude down.

1941
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 15: I'm telling you, I gotta I gotta tell you, man,

1942
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 15: it's not even fighting. I think it's worse when you

1943
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 15: start talking about fighting before it even is there. I

1944
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 15: don't even think Raphael should even say anything right now.

1945
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 15: Just be happy, right, be happy for Sergio. I mean

1946
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 15: you're not you're not really near there yet. I don't

1947
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 15: think or he's on his way, but you put that

1948
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 15: out there now, I think that's.

1949
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 5: Gotta be like, it's a weird situation, right, that already

1950
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 5: creates it.

1951
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 15: I'd rather go to the opposite route will never happen,

1952
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 15: and I think it really won't. I think you see

1953
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 15: the way Morob is too. They ask him if you

1954
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 15: want to fight Frankie goes. You know, Frankie should be

1955
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 15: fighting of the legends. Man, I don't want that. But

1956
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 15: he respects Frankie and he does just he's he's a

1957
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 15: different cat man, He's a different cat. If that within

1958
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 15: the next two years, it'll be interesting, but I don't

1959
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 15: see it change it. I think he's grateful for whatever

1960
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 15: he's got. He's got an immigrant mentality.

1961
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 5: Everybody loves the guy.

1962
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 15: He's happy doing what he's doing and he'll just keep

1963
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 15: doing it. And if it came to another situation, if

1964
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 15: he's jumping in there, but I don't think with ale Joe,

1965
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 15: he's gonna know.

1966
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1967
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 15: Uh.

1968
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 9: I just I'm so happy for Sergio Pettis. I always say,

1969
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 9: like the best part of my job is seeing somebody

1970
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 9: break through and become an undiscuwed to UFC champion for

1971
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 9: the first time, and even seeing somebody like Dustin Pourier

1972
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 9: get to take an interim belt home. And no one's

1973
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 9: ever gonna take that away from him. By the way,

1974
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 9: it doesn't have interim fucking engraved on it. I can

1975
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 9: assure you of that. You know, seeing a guy break

1976
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 9: through like Sergio pettis not that he's trying to escape

1977
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 9: the shadow of his brother, because it's a very similar

1978
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 9: situation situation in Nick and Nate Diaz, right, is like

1979
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 9: they constantly, you know, push up and put their older

1980
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 9: brother on a pedestal. But I just I think it's

1981
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 9: really cool for Sergi. I didn't see him out of it,

1982
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 9: but I think it's really cool.

1983
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 15: Oh, I store it, man. I thought he did a

1984
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 15: fantastic job. And uh men, he picked that guy apart.

1985
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 15: I've never seen him look better. He looks like he's

1986
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 15: how old is he now? He looks like he's really

1987
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 15: coming into his own. I thought it was a great fight,

1988
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 15: literally was, and was happy as hell for the guy because.

1989
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 5: You know, he's been you know, like with the UFC

1990
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 5: and then he went over there. But he was I thought.

1991
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 15: He performed unbelievable against a really talented, tough Arti Letta,

1992
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 15: and that's what makes the fight even better. He was

1993
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 15: a gritty, gritty guy and he really just stayed in

1994
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 15: the pocket and he he.

1995
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 5: He was punching in between punches, and he looked great. Man,

1996
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 5: I thought he looked fantastic.

1997
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 9: So I have a couple of performances from the UFC

1998
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 9: card that I want to get to with you. I

1999
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 9: know you have about nine minutes until until okay, oh yeah,

2000
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 9: you're one o'clock canceled. That's right, all right, So you'd

2001
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 9: let us know.

2002
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 6: Here we go.

2003
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 5: You know what it is. You can't get rid of him.

2004
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 5: I tell you you cannot get.

2005
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 6: Rid of him purty.

2006
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 7: Oh god, listen, motherfucker. I'm doing this for anak Florian.

2007
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 5: Listen. We would just compliment you if you didn't hear it.

2008
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 9: Don't start, hey, Maddie, I have far less serious questions.

2009
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 9: When was the last time you had non gluten free pizza?

2010
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 9: Are you still doing gluten free exclusively?

2011
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 6: What I did is bothering you, not at all.

2012
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 9: It's fine.

2013
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 6: I like it, good, I love it.

2014
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 5: Holy ship, this guy, Kenny, come on, man, have.

2015
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 6: You by the way, what did you do with that

2016
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 6: fucking mob?

2017
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 5: I gave it to you.

2018
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 7: I heard, I heard the kids didn't even want that thing.

2019
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 6: This sounds like very ship. What your hair wash your

2020
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 6: oh my god, wash.

2021
01:30:55,720 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 5: You nails telling you about keeping your pie home clean.

2022
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 6: My kids are on zoom. You didn't get me yelled at?

2023
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 5: This is a knife? Here I go.

2024
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 6: Look, you know what I keep me sorry for real?

2025
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 7: You know why want to do with my WiFi because

2026
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 7: I can fucking drive in the traffic listening to you?

2027
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 6: Anyway? What's hey?

2028
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 9: No, I'm curious, when was the last time you had

2029
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 9: non gluten free pizza? Are you still eating exclusively gluten

2030
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 9: free pizza right now in your life?

2031
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 6: You don't make me be that guy.

2032
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: Hold on, Oh you see the as?

2033
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's eight of them. You have a fucking a pack.

2034
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 6: Put my stomach forward too. Wait, hold on, long ago?

2035
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 7: Is this a challenge anyway? You know what, I don't

2036
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 7: challenge Penny or fucking John runs fucking twenty miles a

2037
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 7: day to pick their shirt stuff.

2038
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 6: Anyway, what was the fucking question?

2039
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 9: I'm sure all right, So pizza please.

2040
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 6: I've been gluten free.

2041
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 7: But the other night, which was a great fucking night

2042
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 7: at Sarah BJJ, even this guy who's the most anti

2043
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 7: social motherfucker ever, any dude, thanks for Vancino.

2044
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 5: But I gotta say, Kenny, Kenny, the last time I

2045
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 5: clapped that much. I was at an AMOY meeting in

2046
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 5: the nineteen eighties.

2047
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 15: That I mean, it's a PEP rally, And what the

2048
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 15: hell was I even looking at.

2049
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 7: First of all, it was a Dean. First of all,

2050
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 7: First of let's explain to the kids ALONGO what am

2051
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,719
Speaker 7: but anyway, they can google it. But second of all,

2052
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 7: Dean Lister O g the leg box. Yeah, the nice guy.

2053
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 7: It was good to see him again, you know what

2054
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 7: I mean. So he was in town. I had him

2055
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 7: to do a seminar of my place. But what a

2056
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 7: positive The problem is such positive energy all over the place,

2057
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 7: gloom and doom that he could only think so much.

2058
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 9: But Morob got a purple bell, said Kenny.

2059
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 5: I felt like I got stuck in the conga line.

2060
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 5: I couldn't get off. I was like, are you kidding me?

2061
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 5: Can you just promote Morob so I can get the

2062
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 5: fuck out of here? Come on?

2063
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2064
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 3: That was awesome, man, I saw it. That was great.

2065
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 6: I gave out like five black belts these guys. What's

2066
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 6: the best to get his black belt?

2067
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, beautiful? Yeah, another great guy? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

2068
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 15: We had a good group of guys. All of those

2069
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 15: guys are great.

2070
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 6: Everybody now.

2071
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 9: So, Maddie, how about UH and Ken Flow obviously, but

2072
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 9: how about Dean Thomas getting this UH getting this TV work?

2073
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 9: I mean, can we all just acknowledge our collective happiness

2074
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 9: for Dean Thomas? I mean, do you know how nice

2075
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 9: it is from mid Round to be able to throw

2076
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 9: to my guy Dean Thomas.

2077
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 5: He's doing He's killing it. Man, what a great guy.

2078
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 10: You know.

2079
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 5: I was doing the podcast.

2080
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 15: With him, really really well spoken, informative guy.

2081
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 14: Man.

2082
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 5: It was great to see him get that. He deserves it.

2083
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 9: Maddie, that's your boy.

2084
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 6: He's got a great great Thomas, you know what I mean.

2085
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 7: It's so funny, like like we got to we really

2086
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 7: ended up getting close on the UH on The Ultimate Fighter,

2087
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So it's so funny how

2088
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 7: things work out, like we really got along like they

2089
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:14,839
Speaker 7: was and Kenny, I don't know, I'm sure it was similar.

2090
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 6: They kind of fucked with you on there, so they

2091
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 6: gave us.

2092
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 7: You know, back then when I had hair, I used

2093
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 7: to like to get a nice a nice day every week.

2094
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 6: That means you feel good, You get a faith, you know,

2095
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 6: although you feel a little often to look good.

2096
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 7: As to feel good, as we of course, of course,

2097
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 7: they would send in like this lady, this girl who

2098
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 7: was you know she was?

2099
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 9: But I'm like, god, this.

2100
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 6: Work on this melon. So Dean Thomas like, man, that's

2101
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 6: a ball. I got you. So he was just giving

2102
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 6: me the faith.

2103
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 7: And he would do like even on the fifth day

2104
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 7: if I felt a little stubble, He's like, man, can't

2105
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 7: tear me.

2106
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 6: We bonded long ago.

2107
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 9: My wheels are spinning right now because I give myself

2108
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 9: a skin fade. As ken Flow knows, every four days,

2109
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 9: I give myself a skin fade the day of the broadcast.

2110
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 9: And now I'm thinking, Dean Tom, give me a fucking

2111
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,799
Speaker 9: skin fade that showed day you know, fat in his wallet.

2112
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 9: If he wants to tighten me.

2113
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 6: Up, I'll tell you right now. He does it really good.

2114
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 9: That's amazing, it's amazing.

2115
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:20,759
Speaker 7: But that shell to me, I like this every days,

2116
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 7: like meditation.

2117
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 9: Do you do it every day? Do you do it

2118
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 9: every day?

2119
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 6: Stupid day? Then the following day.

2120
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 9: I don't you know it, But unlike long aot least

2121
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 9: you wash your scalp when you do.

2122
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 6: It right, list.

2123
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 15: Kenny, I mean John, take your head off. So on

2124
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 15: this side it'll be the Fordham Baldies against the wander

2125
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 15: exactly what's good? Look at these guys, you.

2126
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 9: You guys do look so fucking greasy on that. My god,

2127
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 9: I mean crazy, I mean I could cook never mind?

2128
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 15: Yeah, so, uh can you maneuver the the cameras so

2129
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 15: it looks like a complete when they put their heads together.

2130
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 5: Hey you go, I love it? Yeah, right in the

2131
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 5: middle of the broadcast, love it, Kenny.

2132
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,759
Speaker 9: So So all right, one thing I had for you guys,

2133
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 9: right and Maddie, So first fight of the night for

2134
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 9: the UFC last weekend. Maybe you guys will get to

2135
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 9: this on your show today. But you got this guy,

2136
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 9: Carlson Harris right from this tiny South American nation of Guyana,

2137
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 9: and he's one of ten children, you know, and he

2138
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 9: tells it, some days we would have one meal a day,

2139
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 9: sometimes zero meals a day, just depending on the day. Right,

2140
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 9: dude goes out in the UFC debut thirty four, thirty

2141
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 9: three years old whatever he is and submits a guy

2142
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 9: with an anaconda, right, and wins a fifty thousand dollars bonus. Man,

2143
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 9: It's like, this is what this is all about.

2144
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 7: Man. You know we can say that this you know,

2145
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 7: we I just want to mention that we found him

2146
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 7: looking for a fight.

2147
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 3: Does that deserve that's right?

2148
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 9: Of course?

2149
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 6: Uh in where was he that this one? Dana?

2150
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Speaker 7: Daana his credit data. We weren't looking at for that

2151
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 7: guy or at that guy. I mean looking at everybody,

2152
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 7: but we weren't there specifically. There was some names specifically

2153
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 7: that Dana's like, yo, this right right, and then we're like, yo,

2154
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 7: where did this guy come from? And Dana was a

2155
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 7: little concerned about the age, to be honest, but the.

2156
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 6: Story was too good backstage? What a sweetheart?

2157
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 7: What a you can tell like when it's really like

2158
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 7: the guys are just it's life changing, like you can

2159
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 7: see in.

2160
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:43,600
Speaker 6: Their eyes, and it's like that guy tell us the

2161
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 6: story back then and I'm like wow.

2162
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 7: And then and then for this debut on top of that,

2163
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 7: you know, that's really great. That's really fantastic for him,

2164
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 7: you know, life changing.

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Speaker 9: That's so funny that you that you were there. I

2166
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 9: totally forgot about that, but it was absolutely Yeah. It

2167
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 9: was in United Arab Emirates and he cut seventeen kilos

2168
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 9: in twenty four hours because obviously you guys were gonna

2169
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 9: be in the building. But uh, Yeah, Dana White, looking

2170
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 9: for a fight. I love you burying the Contender series,

2171
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 9: putting over your show, fucking savage. You can be in Texas, Houston, Texas. Yes, well,

2172
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 9: my buddy, I'm gonna be yeah, outstanding. Then we'll put

2173
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 9: something in the air, if you know what I mean.

2174
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 9: But uh so, uh so, what do you guys got coming?

2175
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 9: Uh coming up on the program today? UFC on Filtered

2176
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 9: Video Podcast we're starting. Do you even know what's on

2177
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 9: the show? Do you even fucking know who's gonna be

2178
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 9: on the goddamn show? With these hard questions, I will

2179
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 9: the pizza one I had asked three times. That was

2180
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 9: the easiest question.

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01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 6: I didn't even answer that. Well listen, no, no, you

2182
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:45,799
Speaker 6: didn't even answer it. Yeah, we celebrated with some real pizza.

2183
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 6: Good do you listened? Seminal?

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01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 5: Okay, good, Very impressive guys.

2185
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 7: You know it's not every day these guys become a

2186
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 7: fucking Jedi. You know.

2187
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 9: That's true. That's true?

2188
01:38:58,040 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 5: Right?

2189
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 9: So uh well, hey man, we sincerely appreciate the extended time.

2190
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 9: I know your day starts early. You got your nap in,

2191
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 9: but it's great to see your face.

2192
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 10: Man.

2193
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 9: I don't really have anything you know, he smiles.

2194
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 7: Listen, this is the guy that that just sticks around

2195
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 7: these lingers.

2196
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 15: I think you're gonna have to be a little more

2197
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 15: forthcoming than you got your napping.

2198
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 6: Oh man, big plus listen, I cut my very good,

2199
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 6: very good listen. So I was I gonna say, all right, listen,

2200
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 6: let me just plug a couple of things.

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01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:49,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, please, yes, plug everything you want. Man, The names

2202
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 9: on the Builder, Sarah BJ.

2203
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 6: Myself and Jimmy what sometimes long.

2204
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 9: So that's right, you know in.

2205
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:00,520
Speaker 6: The media future will have them.

2206
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 7: And he gets hendy, the rats and everything with the

2207
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 7: fucking from your new announcing gig.

2208
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:10,719
Speaker 3: Thank you brother, thank you, fucking go box or whatever

2209
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 3: you do with that.

2210
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,600
Speaker 6: You know, hey, you know what I mean. You are

2211
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 6: the unfilthy looking for a fight.

2212
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 9: My man, you're the man.

2213
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 6: He would be so cool if I knew he was

2214
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 6: button the president.

2215
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 9: Cody knows what that's.

2216
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 3: Matt's like the me version of his show, like John

2217
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 3: does all the work.

2218
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 15: I just show up and yah, yeah, he's got notes

2219
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 15: on that show too. He didn't look at him yet,

2220
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 15: That's why he couldn't answer. So great job, Cody, you're

2221
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 15: about a half out with.

2222
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 5: Good college.

2223
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 9: Try on that that was That was the best line

2224
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 9: of that entire right there. So Ray you know, Ken

2225
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 9: Flow keeps things close to the that right you know,

2226
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 9: it's just not broadcasting everything to everyone as some of

2227
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 9: us are inclined to do it. Oh, here we go.

2228
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 9: So but he did acknowledge on social media over the

2229
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 9: weekend as he is listening baby boy names. You and

2230
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 9: I have combined ray to produce four daughters and one son.

2231
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 9: Ken Flow and his wife are going to welcome a

2232
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 9: baby boy into the world inside of the next eleven days.

2233
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 9: How about that?

2234
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:31,520
Speaker 5: Congratulate? Really, that's great?

2235
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:32,440
Speaker 9: Want the names?

2236
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 3: What I can release the name right now?

2237
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 5: If I'm saying he's going with his father's name Augustine.

2238
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 3: Hit Bull, Ronan, Florian, it just it just rolls off

2239
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 3: the top. It's perfect.

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Speaker 9: I think Ronan is pretty good. I maybe Raymond. What

2241
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 9: about Raymond? Do you like the name Raymond, Raymond, Augustine Augustin.

2242
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, tell you my father's name was august Really.

2243
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 9: Out of here.

2244
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 3: I got to talk to you off air because this

2245
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 3: is really weird that you're telling me this.

2246
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 6: But anyway, what is that?

2247
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 9: Why can't why can't you guys talk.

2248
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 3: About That's interesting?

2249
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 9: See what I mean, see what I mean close to

2250
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 9: the fast.

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01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 15: He went by his middle name most of the time

2252
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 15: because I think August probably was in the maybe it was.

2253
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 15: I think I thought it was maybe too Italian back then.

2254
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 15: I don't know, as I lose it.

2255
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 9: And and your dad does go by Gus to some

2256
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:35,639
Speaker 9: is that yeah.

2257
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 5: I got that's where I used to pull my old

2258
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 5: man Gush.

2259
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 6: I love it.

2260
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 3: That's that's so weird.

2261
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 6: I mean that's the first thing.

2262
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 15: Every time I saw your father's name on Twitter, I

2263
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 15: was like, Wow, it's crazy because you know that's not

2264
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 15: a common name, right, No, it isn't.

2265
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 3: It isn't.

2266
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,640
Speaker 9: And uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna have We're gonna have

2267
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 9: this conversation when we're down the show, so because I'm

2268
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 9: very curious. But the only thing I have for you

2269
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 9: left Ray and then you can plug whatever you want

2270
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 9: to on the on the way out like your friend

2271
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 9: Matt did.

2272
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 5: So Yeah, I got a little dignity. I got a

2273
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,759
Speaker 5: little dignity.

2274
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 9: So uh Gregor Gillespie, uh, former Ring of Combat champion. Yeah,

2275
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 9: and uh, I just have a lot of respect for

2276
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 9: the valiance and the performance over the weekend. I just

2277
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 9: was curious if you had anything for us on that.

2278
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 15: Man, what I tell you after that first round, Uh

2279
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 15: and when he went back to the corner and the

2280
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 15: camera kind of got on it, they almost made you

2281
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 15: believe it could be a doctor stoppage, almost from exhaustion

2282
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 15: like something like that. But the way he came back,

2283
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 15: and I thought that was the gutsiest performance I've seen

2284
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 15: in a while, because the first round was rough. I

2285
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 15: think he's normally used to getting what he wanted, but

2286
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 15: I think what he said was interesting, like if he's tired,

2287
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 15: then the other guy's got to be really and I

2288
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 15: think it's kind of like a Morob mentality where they're

2289
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 15: not stopping, you know, so that's.

2290
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 5: Off to him.

2291
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 15: I thought it was yeah, rough, first round wasn't looking good. Yeah,

2292
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 15: and uh man just came down to conditioning man and

2293
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 15: he just he's got that kad Be mentality.

2294
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 5: They just don't stop. They're gonna get what they want,

2295
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 5: you know, and then they got a good top game.

2296
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 5: You know.

2297
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 15: Morob is a little different because he wants to put

2298
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 15: He told me he's not even he don't care about

2299
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 15: holding anybody down. He just wants to almost hit him.

2300
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 15: A couple to let him up and put him down again.

2301
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 15: He he could do that all day long and it's

2302
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 15: not and he's not going to panic either, you know

2303
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 15: what I mean, he's definitely. I'm glad he got the

2304
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 15: show is striking a little bit. That's all we're concentrating

2305
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 15: on now with him, and uh, but God, don't want

2306
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 15: to take it away from Greg. I mean, I just

2307
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 15: thought it was a crazy performance, especially after the first

2308
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 15: round little adversity. But man, that guy came back and

2309
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 15: he wasn't going to be denied that takedown and he

2310
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 15: got to finish against a really tough guy on the floor,

2311
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 15: which so I.

2312
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 9: Know you put it well, he is absolutely of that

2313
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,640
Speaker 9: ILK guys Kabeeb and Morop can go.

2314
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gone.

2315
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 3: Man.

2316
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 9: You know what happened this weekend. I know it happened.

2317
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 9: I don't even have to look it up. I did

2318
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 9: extra rounds.

2319
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,719
Speaker 5: So I didn't do extra rounds this weekend. I sweet

2320
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 5: to god that's true.

2321
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 9: Because actually, all right, so I chieved a little bit

2322
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 9: there because your name was in the promo. We didn't

2323
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 9: read it, but uh, I think it was in the promo. Yeah,

2324
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 9: I thought it was going to be you in pro Gonzales.

2325
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 9: But uh, I mean, I digress. You're just very sharp

2326
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 9: with your analysis, and sometimes when your analytics are so

2327
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 9: good a post radio and you're cheating off the old

2328
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 9: through it already.

2329
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a that's I like your your acumen on

2330
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 5: this very good.

2331
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 9: So I won't see you in Houston. What do you

2332
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:46,919
Speaker 9: got going on the rest of the week month.

2333
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 15: Uh, that's it we got. The next one is a

2334
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 15: viv Gonzali. He's fighting at Bellator in.

2335
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 10: Two weeks, men, so I'll.

2336
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 15: Be heading to the league and son and I had another

2337
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 15: guy on the twenty eighth, but he just broke his

2338
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 15: hand nos Na zem which was you know, he was

2339
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 15: looking great.

2340
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 5: He was, you know, just an unfortunate thing. But you'll

2341
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:14,679
Speaker 5: get better and be back.

2342
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:16,600
Speaker 15: He'll be one of the guys looking you know, to

2343
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 15: look forward to in the future. Yeah, that's coming out

2344
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 15: of this place, so all good stuff.

2345
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 9: Longo will pronounce a Viviani ada ujo on you, but

2346
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 9: just don't ask him to pronounce his own athletes names.

2347
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 5: On live radio, because yeah, I can't do that.

2348
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 9: Hey, before we all get on out of here. Three

2349
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 9: hundred episodes, Ray, I remember coming up to Longo in

2350
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 9: January or February of twenty fifteen, or you can look

2351
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 9: it up. I think it was at a Widman fight

2352
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 9: or an Eddie Gordon fight or whatever it was. But said, hey,

2353
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 9: Ken Flo and I are think about launching a podcast

2354
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 9: and we want to have a coach's segment and we

2355
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 9: want you to be a part of this every Monday indefinitely.

2356
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 9: And I think Ray at times was actually more receptive

2357
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 9: to it than Ken Flow at first, not that Kenny

2358
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 9: was like giving me a bunch of flak, but you know,

2359
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 9: Ken flows like you want my every Monday and like

2360
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 9: you're not going to pay me a dot? What are

2361
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 9: we doing here?

2362
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 5: John?

2363
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 3: You know.

2364
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 6: So?

2365
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 9: But no, So you were obviously our first choice and

2366
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 9: you signed on the dotted line, and I know you

2367
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 9: FC Unfiltered pays you a lot more. But I just

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Speaker 9: want to thank you and acknowledge you, and the audience

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Speaker 9: obviously has a love affair with you, and you know,

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Speaker 9: we feel like this show, in a lot of respects

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Speaker 9: is the little engine that could write meat and Potatoes

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Speaker 9: podcast and you're a huge part of it. So I

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Speaker 9: just want to thank you. We've arrived at three hundred

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Speaker 9: and not slowing down. As they say, so.

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Speaker 15: Ay man, and I got to say thank you for

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Speaker 15: even entertaining the thought of bringing me on.

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Speaker 5: But man, I enjoy every second of this stuff talking

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Speaker 5: to you guys. It's just fun.

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Speaker 15: And I think you also said it'll be a minute,

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Speaker 15: and I think you said we won't talk fighting. I

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Speaker 15: think that's what you had said that you like, I'm

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Speaker 15: not going to pick your brain about like the fights

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Speaker 15: or coaching. I don't is that correct?

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Speaker 9: Well, it definitely the inspiration was that it was going

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Speaker 9: to be shorter, because again I was looking at a

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Speaker 9: forty five or sixty minute podcast with the mentality of

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Speaker 9: leaving the audience wanting more as opposed to being, you know,

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Speaker 9: for three hour full diaper if you will, right, But yes,

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Speaker 9: it was gonna be shorter, and I thought that you yeah,

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Speaker 9: I mean I thought that maybe it would take on

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Speaker 9: a more rapid fire question tone and obviously it would

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Speaker 9: be comedic. It wasn't going to totally ignore fighting, but

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Speaker 9: I think obviously it evolved into maybe being more technical

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Speaker 9: at times and other ray long a minutes like today

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Speaker 9: is just go completely off there.

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Speaker 5: I weaseled my way into the show.

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Speaker 9: No way, not at awesome, but U and I will

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Speaker 9: say too. And I've said this to Kenny, and certainly

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Speaker 9: Kenny will experience this when when the PFL has fans back.

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Speaker 9: But when I'm on the road, you know, people are

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Speaker 9: talking to me about the podcast, Like when fans come

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Speaker 9: up to me, they're asking me about the podcast and

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Speaker 9: the two of you clowns. So hey, he is to

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Speaker 9: three hundred more. Thanks for a guest, Sad Matt Sarah,

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Speaker 9: Joe Osborne, Ian Parker, and of course the great Ray

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Speaker 9: Long Gore. Executive producer is Cody Merrow with that from

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Speaker 9: long ago for Ken Flow, I'm John Anaxan, So long

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Speaker 9: for now Flow. Best of luck. Perhaps there will be

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Speaker 9: a new edition by this time next week. Hey, maybe

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Speaker 9: he'll share the birthday with you on May twenty sixth.

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Speaker 9: And hey, Patty Militich, me and you buddy, three rounds,

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Speaker 9: two minutes. Twenty twenty three loser wears a mask for

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Speaker 9: a month.

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Speaker 15: Wow, right, there's no money. I mean, I'm in the

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Speaker 15: running May twentieth. It is my birthday. I'm saying I'm

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Speaker 15: pulling for May twenty. Wow, you're the twenty.

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Speaker 3: Cody's a May baby. We got a bunch of May babies.

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Speaker 9: Oh, my gosh, that's right. Happy birthday to our producer

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Speaker 9: Cody Mara, who will be with us at UFC two

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Speaker 9: sixty two May fifteen, celebrating birthday number twenty eight. What

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Speaker 9: a piece of wow twenty eight. Yeah, the mid nineteen

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Speaker 9: born in like the mid nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 5: The week millennial.

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Speaker 15: On that note, yo, take it easy, guys, you guys,

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Speaker 15: Happy birthday, Cody.

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