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Speaker 2: You like go.

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Speaker 3: Busting with the boys, hanging with the best.

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Speaker 2: Bro twenty Steve Vanilla, March Madness, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to another beautiful episode of Busting with the Boys, Episode

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Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 2: is time to where throw any knowledge you have. Look,

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Speaker 2: if you've come to this podcast for college basketball talk,

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Speaker 2: which I'm sure you haven't, this is where it doesn't

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Speaker 2: really matter. This is yeah, this is where you dive in.

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Speaker 2: Whether I just remember the days in high school and

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Speaker 2: the case is. It is March Madness Week plus What

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Speaker 2: matter if I believe any of those teams can win

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Speaker 4: We're going on the street is that Houston might be

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Speaker 2: Hey, I know they're a one seed, but people are

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Speaker 2: I like Houston Their strength coach. Yeah, yeah, they have

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Speaker 4: I love that And the eccentric talk is just a

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Speaker 4: We just got back from Montana. Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 4: Steve was walking around Marshes like it was no big deal.

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Speaker 2: And I am a massive fan. I did. I started

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Speaker 4: The way I envisioned the live bets is like the

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to be the first party individual and

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Speaker 4: I hope to God i'm Will Smith in the situation. Yeah, yeah,

435
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,119
Speaker 4: winning hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars.

436
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Speaker 9: There's so much going on in the first round, second

437
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,400
Speaker 9: round that there really is no way to prep other

438
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Speaker 9: than have your phone charged, yeah, and your money ready.

439
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,119
Speaker 4: Money, and just be ready. Yeah, have that thing on

440
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,679
Speaker 4: the fandle where you have to it sits there, and

441
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 4: be like, hey, just so you know, you've been on

442
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,800
Speaker 4: here for an hour and a half.

443
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. It gives you a little updates.

444
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you've been on here for twenty five minutes,

445
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,160
Speaker 4: just making sure you're okay. Yeah yeah, and then back

446
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Speaker 4: in yeah yeah.

447
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Speaker 10: Dude, and don't uh, don't forget. I know we'll jump

448
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 10: into like the full bracket. But those first playing games

449
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Speaker 10: arena yard today eighteen.

450
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, I forget right now. So okay

451
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,880
Speaker 2: in games, yes, you laid it on some action there,

452
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Speaker 2: just to start spicing it up a little bit.

453
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Speaker 10: And we can talk about those if we want. Kind

454
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Speaker 10: of flex our muscles, show them.

455
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Speaker 2: We do know what we're talking about. We don't though,

456
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 2: we don't, and we don't like, hey, let's flex our

457
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 2: muscles on Alabama on Alabama State in Saint Francis. I'm thinking, like,

458
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 2: be fun to see for Saint Francis winning because Sant

459
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 2: Francis County is where I grew up. So I'm just

460
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 2: thinking like, right, oh, that's a Missouri Yeah, Okay, Yeah,

461
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 2: Saint Francis County is in Missouri. Right, It's a it's

462
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Speaker 2: like a like, hey, I'm rooting for this team. That's

463
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 2: a name association, name association. That's what we're dealing with

464
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 2: right here. By the way, if Mitch was not here,

465
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Speaker 2: I would have thought we're rooting for a team in Baltampa. Okay, Okay,

466
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 2: that's a mixture because I'm thinking, yeah, I know it's no, no, no,

467
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Speaker 2: thank you, Mitch Mustache.

468
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Speaker 4: Mitch is different, man, he's saving this podcast because I'm

469
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 4: sitting there like, yeah, fuck yeah, dude, Missouri, we're going

470
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Speaker 4: hard for them.

471
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Speaker 9: There's one thing, one of these play playing games, if

472
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Speaker 9: Texas wins, that'll be the fourteenth SEC team in the tournament,

473
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Speaker 9: setting a new.

474
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Speaker 2: Which is nuts man crazy.

475
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Speaker 4: So we kind of want Texas to win because we

476
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Speaker 4: need the SEC to have something right.

477
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Speaker 2: I think is like a blue blood.

478
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they have, yeah basketball Conference. We need them

479
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Speaker 4: to step it up because you guys.

480
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Speaker 2: Are it is apparently the first time and I don't

481
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Speaker 2: know how long that if North Carolina loses, it'll be

482
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Speaker 2: their first time not making the tournament since god knows

483
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Speaker 2: how long.

484
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's some rumblings right there that they are.

485
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 4: They're being sneaky boys, apparently in bed with somebody in

486
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: the committee that yeah, the Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick's working

487
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 4: his magic in the basketball court already.

488
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Speaker 2: Huh.

489
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Speaker 9: Just just based on the two names, who you taking

490
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Speaker 9: in this game? American or Mount Saint Mary's American?

491
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Speaker 2: American? Bud light?

492
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but are you talking about just like the name

493
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Speaker 8: of the school.

494
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Speaker 9: Which I said, just based off these.

495
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Speaker 4: Two days and we heard Jers match. I hope they

496
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 4: might caught it.

497
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Speaker 7: No.

498
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Mount Saint Mary's is kind of like they've been

499
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Speaker 8: making some runs their wagons.

500
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Speaker 6: They're a bit of a wagon. They had to like

501
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Speaker 6: a couple of years America yet though.

502
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 4: Mount Saint Marys hasn't ran into America yet, fact checking

503
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Speaker 4: me on that.

504
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Speaker 2: Don't know. I they played, Who's going to play in

505
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: the play Houston. Mount Saint Mary's a bit of a wagon.

506
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Speaker 2: I do have right now. As of right now, I

507
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: have six circled upsets, which I don't know if you

508
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 2: consider a nine upsetting an eight like an upset. But

509
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: they are underdogs. But here's what I have. I have

510
00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: Creton over Louisville, New Mexico over Marquette ar in sOliver, Kansas,

511
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: and I'm leaning like, hey, the SEC's got teams Arkansas

512
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: over Kansas, Baylor over Mississippi State, VCU over b y U.

513
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: I just saw the way VCU was fired up at

514
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: the end of their tournament. I'm like, oh, let's I

515
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: would love to see him make it a little bit

516
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 2: of damage in the first round. And then McNeese shut up.

517
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 2: It's mcneesyneezy over Clemson. Come all right, I noticed you

518
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: didn't have my boys in there. That's nice. I thought

519
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: about it, but I'm like, you know what, I can't

520
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: because logically, it does seem like Michigan's in a tough

521
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Speaker 2: spot with their draw based on the way everybody else

522
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Speaker 2: has been talking.

523
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Speaker 4: Right, that five six, seven seed, Right, they're always in

524
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Speaker 4: the play.

525
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: You see San Diego, But apparently you see San Diego

526
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: is like a pretty good team, not just like they

527
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Speaker 2: weren't fifteen straight.

528
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Speaker 7: And they're beast on defense. They're gonna be a tough

529
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Speaker 7: twelve seed for you to play.

530
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me ask you this, who have they played?

531
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Speaker 2: You see it? Right? You see this, you see that,

532
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: You see Los Angeles, Yeah, you see Encinitas, you see these.

533
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Speaker 6: You see Sacramento, you see Los Angeles as U c

534
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Speaker 6: l A. Did you mean to say that?

535
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: I was just saying, like, you see, hey, mustache mintioned

536
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: strikes again. You see Berkeley. Yeah, but can I see

537
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: your little sheet request? Yeah, go ahead, it does have

538
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 2: all the spreads on it as well. Yeah.

539
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 4: So because Michigan don't know what I know. I know

540
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 4: that Michigan won the Big Ten tournament. So like, shout

541
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 4: at us once again, like Michigan. Well, you say what

542
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 4: you want about my fandom about Michigan. People hate on Michigan.

543
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 4: It's a good sports school.

544
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Speaker 2: It is. I don't think anybody disagrees. Okay, good but

545
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: again and Yale after that, but fawl and then you

546
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: got and the only you got Auburn possibly after that

547
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: two and a half point favorites against U see San

548
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Speaker 2: Diego and.

549
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 4: Diego tough spot, But smooth water Water has never made

550
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: a skilled sailor. Oh there you go, hey, my boys,

551
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: My boys are gonna be ready quick.

552
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Speaker 9: Little shout out to the hometown Lipscomb in the tournament.

553
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's big time. Shout out Lipscomb. Shout out Vanderbilt,

554
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 2: Vanderbilts in the boys do you guys, have you guys

555
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: have some upsets that you like in Round one?

556
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Speaker 10: I did just want to highlight one of yours, which

557
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 10: was the Kansas Arkansas game. I've been watching Big twelve basketball,

558
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 10: like pretty closely this year. I've watched it closer in

559
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Speaker 10: years past. But I think Kansas is extremely overrated. I've

560
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Speaker 10: seen them lose several in conference games. They started the

561
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 10: year very highly ranked. They've you know, fallen out the

562
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Speaker 10: top twenty five since, but extremely vulnerable Kansas team. So

563
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Speaker 10: I actually really liked that Arkansas to beat Kansas in

564
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Speaker 10: the first round. I love that pick.

565
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Speaker 2: Do you have any other jack I know, you guys

566
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: who are in the weeds more with college basketball.

567
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Speaker 8: I feel like Drake Drake against Miszoo. I mean, just

568
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 8: strictly looking just strictly looking at record. I mean, Drake

569
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 8: is thirty and three and where's Missouri?

570
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: See how I love that? Sometimes it's just like, hey, look.

571
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Speaker 6: At the record to make a pick.

572
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like Drake Drake over Missouri. Correct, But again

573
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Speaker 2: Miszoo's in the SEC for sure.

574
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Speaker 8: But twenty two and eleven and thirty and three like Drake,

575
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Speaker 8: say Drake? Like yeah, I feel like they they're they're

576
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 8: low key, like not really a blue button blood, but

577
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 8: they've been in the tournament sometimes and like they're kind

578
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 8: of they're a little feisty.

579
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: They got they get spicy. He's a fisty team. What

580
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: commerce are they in?

581
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Speaker 6: I want to say, like big Easter American sounds right?

582
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, Big East sounds more right. Yeah, I kind of

583
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 9: like your VCU pick. I did watch the end of

584
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 9: that game.

585
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're fired up.

586
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 9: Hit the free throws kind of sets in. Don't going

587
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 9: to the tournament.

588
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

589
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 9: Momentum, it'll be pretty sweet. There's a lot March.

590
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: Anything, Yeah, anything can happened. I can't wait to see

591
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: what storylines like come of it. It's like last year

592
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: that cat who was dropping threes from Oakland, remember him

593
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: just going nuts, like the peak of his life, looking

594
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: like JJ Reddick throughout all of March madness. I mean

595
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 2: he was, I mean he was.

596
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 9: We only know one basketball player, it's.

597
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: Basketball player Will sees now is JJ Reddick, But draining

598
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 2: threes like that, Like, bro, it was iconic watching this

599
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: dude work Oakland and they were like were they Yeah.

600
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Speaker 9: They were a very low seed if you had to

601
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 9: pick out of any of the one seeds to get upset.

602
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 9: Who do you think it would be to get upset?

603
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: Let me see what I got here. Auburn had a

604
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: tough draw on in the SEC tournament. Now they they

605
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: had a.

606
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Speaker 9: Their last like four games haven't gone as well as

607
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 9: they wanted him to. So that's either a sports Yeah.

608
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 9: I mean, it's either a good thing to have a

609
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 9: bad taste in your mouth or it's bad.

610
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 4: From the middle of that Ohio State type run, right,

611
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: whether to start putting points over it.

612
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: Was it's Auburn Houston duke in Florida. Yeah, and I

613
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: think out of those I have again no clue, and

614
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm a square. I have all number ones in the

615
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: fund for Auburn.

616
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 10: One thing I do know about Auburn is they're on average,

617
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 10: they're one of the oldest teams in the ncuble A.

618
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 10: They have a lot of fifty or six year guys.

619
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Speaker 10: They're very athletic, they're really strong.

620
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: Number one.

621
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Speaker 10: But some of those playing teams, those sixteenth seed playing teams,

622
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 10: those are the ones to watch because they get that

623
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 10: first win under their belt and then they go up

624
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 10: against that one seed. They're not playing cold. They're coming

625
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 10: in a little hot because they just played recently.

626
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the bye week with the experience that you

627
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: were talking about with Auburn. If I had any I

628
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: would say either Houston or Duke. Why because I know

629
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: that Alabama can be very good and I know that

630
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: Wisconsin can get really spicy.

631
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 6: Cooper flag to hurt his questionable really like really bad

632
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 6: ankle sprain. I think it was in the semi final.

633
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 1: M hm.

634
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 6: So he going to come in hobbled. He's like the

635
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 6: bad he's like overall.

636
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: But they're talking about him just missing this first maybe

637
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: second round around here, right, But if they're without if

638
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: they're without that cat for it would be against Arizona

639
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: or Oregan. But Baylor, Yeah, Baylor, You're right, Baylor, come on,

640
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: don't be playing Baylor hurt, banged up. And then I

641
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: think Carston too because on the other side you got Tennessee, uh, Kentucky,

642
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: and I never sleep on Illinois. You know, Will Compton

643
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: does not does note. That's a good football team right there.

644
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good ball. Good name. Think

645
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: this is going to be a well coached ball team. Yeah,

646
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: Bill marsh mad See, I like Florida. Here's how impressionable.

647
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: I am.

648
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: I don't know very much about basketball at all. We

649
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: get out of the car this morning at a specific spot.

650
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: We won't say where because we're shooting a little custom

651
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: mad Garrett as he goes to the game Florida versus Alabama,

652
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Speaker 4: and Florida went in a flow state mode where they

653
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Speaker 4: would just walk up on a three and drain him

654
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Speaker 4: over and over and over again, to the point where

655
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Speaker 4: Geez telling me he's at first mad, and now he's like,

656
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Speaker 4: I gotta just watch greatness even though they're beating up

657
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: on my own team. So now I just feel like,

658
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: all right, Florida, Florida's gonna be And.

659
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Speaker 2: They got some big white boys. Yes, they down low

660
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: and they're very good. They're very active, they're long, like yeah,

661
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Speaker 2: Florida seems very athletically every position.

662
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Speaker 9: And they are physical. Yeah, those boys down low can ball.

663
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: I heard another physical team in the Southwest region area, Arizona.

664
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Speaker 4: The boys can get physical in there. I was talking

665
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Speaker 4: to a couple of homers from there. I don't just

666
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Speaker 4: sleep on Arizona. Yeah, Arizona boys are out there, obviously

667
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 4: extremely biased. Were like, don't be surprised when they beat.

668
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: Ue it's just like sure. And before we came on

669
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Speaker 2: the bus, He's like, if we can knock off Duke,

670
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: we could win the whole thing.

671
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Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, yeah, Baylor, Yeah, you understand why

672
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Speaker 4: I'm a little confused, right, based on how many teams

673
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Speaker 4: you have. But Baylor is his first his origins, your origin, right,

674
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Speaker 4: his origin, that's what I want to call it.

675
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Speaker 10: Went to and graduated from Baylor University.

676
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the door, let's see. Oh yeah, here's a question.

677
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Speaker 2: I'll go grab it. Okay, thank you, buddy. Okay, we'll

678
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Speaker 2: wait on the question. Jack. How are you feeling about Tennessee.

679
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man.

680
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Speaker 7: We didn't have a great final conclusion in that c C tournament,

681
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Speaker 7: but it's always good we got I think we are

682
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Speaker 7: in a really good spot of the bracket. Bracket.

683
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Speaker 2: I do like it.

684
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Speaker 7: But the whole problem with Tennessee is we are like, well,

685
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Speaker 7: maybe to the elite A and then we lose. So

686
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Speaker 7: hopefully Rick Barnes can get it done. I think Rick

687
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 7: Barnes is gonna leave after this year. He might retire

688
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 7: because we have like six of our seniors that are leaving,

689
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Speaker 7: so I think he's.

690
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Speaker 10: Gonna kind of fade out with them.

691
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Speaker 6: But I don't know.

692
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 7: Rick Barnes one of the you know, most elite college

693
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 7: basketball coaches that's been out there, and he's been in

694
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Speaker 7: the game for almost three decades, but he plays a

695
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 7: very older style of basketball in like a very evolved league.

696
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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

697
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Speaker 7: I hope we go deep, but you just never know.

698
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 7: This is March, so anything could happen.

699
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And another storyline I enjoy too is Kentucky just

700
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: because of that that meme that that old buddy gave us.

701
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: You know, he had the little he made the face

702
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: what do they call it? Yeah, the mean mug. Yeah

703
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: he been. He was mean mug and hardcore.

704
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Speaker 7: I see you guys both have taken Kentucky to beat Tennessee.

705
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 2: How'd you see mine?

706
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 7: I know, I see him?

707
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: And you want to know why? Sure, the Kentucky Tennessee

708
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: game was the last one I kind of filled out

709
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: in the sweet sixteen and I'm looking around and I'm realizing,

710
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: like how much of a square I kind of am

711
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: picking all the Like my upsets are like in the

712
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: first round, none early in the second. And so when

713
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Speaker 2: I was looking at Tennessee Kentucky, I'm looking Okay, three

714
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: seeds versus two seed. I kind of looked at you guys.

715
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Speaker 2: You guys playing this year. It seems like Kentucky got

716
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Speaker 2: you one time and we got them. You're right right

717
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: recently most recently, so I was thinking, like the toss up, right,

718
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: thinking the toss up is like, Okay, I'm just gonna

719
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: go Kentucky here to get a three seed. Yeah, like,

720
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Speaker 2: let me let me this is a game instead of

721
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Speaker 2: one sees across the board. I also have and this

722
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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, sir, because I know you're

723
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Speaker 2: big into the Big twelve. Texas Tech is also like

724
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Speaker 2: one of your teams. They're a three seed. I have

725
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: them beating Saint John in the Sweet sixteen, which I'd

726
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: love to see Saint John go far because of Rick Patino.

727
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: I love like following all their stuff, that the content

728
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: that they've been creating with him. But it does seem

729
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: like Texas Tech could be a bit of a wagon.

730
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Speaker 10: To to sell Tech. Uh, they are unreal beyond the

731
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Speaker 10: three point line.

732
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Speaker 2: Uh.

733
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Speaker 10: They actually knocked out Baylor in the Big Twelve tournament

734
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Speaker 10: by making twelve threes in the first eight minutes of

735
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Speaker 10: the game. When they get hot, they get really really hot,

736
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Speaker 10: but their most important piece, and correct me if I'm wrong.

737
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Speaker 2: I believe it's JT.

738
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Speaker 10: Toppin.

739
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: He's Big twelve Player of the year.

740
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Speaker 10: He's the he is the Texas Tech big man and

741
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 10: that dude underneath the basket that goes across the board.

742
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 10: By the way, if you are similar to me, where

743
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 10: you are an absolute casual and college groups, a great

744
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 10: way to break down if a team has the ability

745
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 10: to go far is either one are they hot from

746
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 10: beyond the three point mark? Or two do they have

747
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 10: a nasty big man that no one can guard? And

748
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 10: that's how a lot of these schools that are the

749
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 10: higher seeds will make deep runs because they have one big,

750
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 10: nasty dude. N C State was a perfect example right

751
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 10: last year.

752
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: That was last year in Purdue Perdue.

753
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Speaker 10: If you just have one big nasty that is got

754
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 10: soft hands by the hoop, it doesn't matter who they're playing,

755
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 10: they can be anyone because if that team's missing shots,

756
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 10: you know he's getting the rebound on defense, and then offensively,

757
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 10: if his team's missing, it's okay. He's gonna get some

758
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 10: offensive rebounds, he's gonna get some fouls. They're better players

759
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 10: are gonna start fouling out. That's how you win basketball

760
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 10: games in a tournament because you have all the nerves

761
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 10: of the tournament teams don't usually shoot as well as

762
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Speaker 10: they do in the regular season, So that's a great

763
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 10: way to kind of break it down. If you're a

764
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Speaker 10: casual to this, you want to do a bit more

765
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 10: research on your gambling, go look up some of these

766
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 10: teams from these eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen seeds. See if

767
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 10: they have a big man. If they have a big

768
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 10: man that's putting up crazy numbers all year, that's a

769
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 10: team to choose. And that's my opinion. And you know

770
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 10: that way they say, like be safe, don't bet too much, responsible, responsible, responsibly.

771
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 10: I'm a podcast producer, right response.

772
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Speaker 4: This is not real medical advice here. Yeah, you can't

773
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: prescribe these types of things, is what, all?

774
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: Right? I like that. I love looking at the fellas,

775
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: looking at the big fellows, the offensive line.

776
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 4: Of the best, the trenches, the trench warfare.

777
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: I love that. I love it. I love the conversation too,

778
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: because we're falling a lot of circles. That's how everybody

779
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: tries to operate.

780
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: I love that people essentially We're operating like a one

781
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 4: big group chat right now because there's a bunch of

782
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: people that are coming to watch our sports podcast.

783
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: But oh, Will and Taylor will have answers. When we

784
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: sit here, We're like, we don't. I think people they

785
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: know that we don't. We don't have answers. Yeah, we

786
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: are shocked. We are going to shock the world. Yeah.

787
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Speaker 4: I think there's a huge opportunity on Thursday Friday on

788
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: these streams for people to make some good money, good

789
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 4: money going to this.

790
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: I might bring my unit all the way down to

791
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Speaker 2: ten dollars because I won my dog of the Day

792
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: bet with tailing you in Michigan. Let's go shout out

793
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: the boys. Turn ten dollars into twenty nine. I might

794
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: just operate off percentages than the actual dollar amount.

795
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 4: That's a smart That might be a smart move, and

796
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 4: you can have more fun. It's like you kind of

797
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 4: walk into a casino and you're like, I'm gonna I'm

798
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: gonna win it all. Then you spend all your money

799
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 4: in the first five minutes, you're like, uh.

800
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: And then the thing too with uh with March madness

801
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: is there's a lot of opportunity. So you could if

802
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: you get in the hole and you're just losing left

803
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: and right, and you're just like, all right, here's where

804
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: we get back on it. Next thing you know, you're like, okay,

805
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm down quite a bit of mone. It sounds like

806
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: you're speaking from experience. Last year I was I. I

807
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: had a very bad percentage. Pretty much all of us did.

808
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: It was not good. We were believed keeping well, keeping

809
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: your same unit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You start

810
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: flying it around first to ten parlay this. Yeah, the

811
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: cat from Oakland is he gonna make this many threes.

812
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: He's like, you start getting into the weeds. I'm that

813
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: you got thirteen bets laying out there for like one game.

814
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: You're like, how did I get here? Yeah? Or you're

815
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: like chasing, like you know, if you're down, like a

816
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: live bet, you going at halftime and live bet something

817
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: else and you're like, this one's not turning over.

818
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: Something about being with a group of guys and live

819
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: betting like each well with football, every possession, what's gonna

820
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: happen in this position? But all kind of teamed up

821
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 4: doing our own thing because it's fun to put the

822
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 4: parlays the other before the game. But once the game starts,

823
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: like those things have to either fold or unfold the

824
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 4: way they do with the live betting. It's like you're

825
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 4: getting action right then and there, so automatic endorphin spike

826
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 4: left and right. Yeah, at the end of the day,

827
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 4: you go home, you're exhausted.

828
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Speaker 2: What is and I know one thing that the that's

829
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: gonna be on the FanDuel Sportsbook twos. There is going

830
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 2: to be like this. I don't know what it's called.

831
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: We'd have to dive into what the exact verbiage is,

832
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: but kind of like a mulligan bet. Yeah, if you

833
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: have a pick like say you have say you have Alabama, Yeah,

834
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 2: bet back. I think that's what it's called.

835
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if it's called that. We just

836
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: know it's a mulligan.

837
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: It's a so so Mitch. The difference is like you

838
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: could have let's just say Alabama minus four and a

839
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Speaker 2: half and or let's just say Alabama minus eighteen and

840
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: a half. Like, say it's in the first round whatever

841
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 2: their big spread is against whoever they're playing, and there's

842
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: like twenty seconds left in the game and they're only

843
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 2: up seven, so you know they're not going to cover

844
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: eighteen and a half. You can go in and get

845
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: you a mulligan bet and get a bet back like

846
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: before the game ends, as long as you're doing it

847
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: on live bet. Yeah, bet back token.

848
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: A bet back token turns your bet into a bonus

849
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: bet if you decide to back out.

850
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Speaker 2: During the game.

851
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're not gonna get that money back into

852
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Speaker 4: your bank account. But I'll be like, hey, you want

853
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: to save it here.

854
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: That's fine.

855
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Speaker 4: We'll just put this in a little nest over here.

856
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 4: Whenever you're ready start dishing that boy out again.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but you got to be active. You gotta be

858
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Speaker 9: ready and paying attention for.

859
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Speaker 2: You got to be great attention. You got to be

860
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: dialed in. Yeah, you gotta be dial a lot of

861
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: good tokens, a lot of good coins and promos going on.

862
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: Because that's a great note by Garrett too, because when

863
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: you get into streams and you're watching games, a lot

864
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 4: of times you can fall victim to what's happening on

865
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Speaker 4: the bird, what's happening on Instagram. When it comes to

866
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Speaker 4: these first couple of rounds. If you're gonahit that bet

867
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: back token, you gotta be dialed. You gotta know what's

868
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 4: going on. Good note, gee, that's a great note.

869
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 9: I mean, we're gonna have multiple split screens going, so

870
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 9: you're gonna.

871
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: Be we'll be excited, locked and locked.

872
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 9: Maybe we assigned somebody to like, hey, keep an eye

873
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 9: on this one. Notify everybody, right, it's either eject or hammering.

874
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm excited for the first kind of rival bet that happens.

875
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: Well, we might have a while, but.

876
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: Just somebody has like a different like say, uh, Michigan

877
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 2: makes it to Auburn. Who's gonna what rivalry is that

878
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, if I'm sitting there, bet and I'll

879
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: probably bet all yeah, yeah, yeah, I can understand that.

880
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm that brings us back to the uh I lost

881
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: my thought. But you can also.

882
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 9: You could join you can join forces in that moment though,

883
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 9: and do the we.

884
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 2: Are you gonna say my feud against Michigan, Well you're.

885
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 4: I was gonna bring it up. Yeah, you're feud against Michigan.

886
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 4: But it was also like the teams, the upsets that

887
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: you don't know why that work cannot come to me,

888
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: but the upsets. I was surprised it wasn't in your

889
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 4: first round because I know you've got a little deal

890
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 4: with Michigan. I don't have a deal with Michigan, and

891
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: we talked about it walking it feels like I don't know,

892
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 4: and I don't know. I don't want to put words

893
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: in your mouth. Maybe it's a jealousy thing. Maybe it's like.

894
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: A no, no, no, no, it's best friend. Say when

895
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: you say jealousy, that's where the feud starts to spark

896
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: in my body.

897
00:39:59,040 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a few.

898
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: You get it. I know. See now you're doing it literally,

899
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 2: you're doing the thing that creates some feud. I don't

900
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: have a few with Michigan.

901
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: I understand why you would be upset based on how

902
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: the last couple of years have gone.

903
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: But I'm not upset. I'm not upset about So.

904
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 4: You're gonna look at me with that tone of voice,

905
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: and you're gonna look at me and say, I'm not upset.

906
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm ready to I'm ready to take down you see

907
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: San Diego, Like if they lose, I'm gonna I'm gonna

908
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: think to myself, damn it, this is the one that

909
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: I know logically, like everybody was kind of saying, this

910
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: is gonna be the tough one.

911
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 6: I think we need to take a time out.

912
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: Gets too heated, get a bow time out and oh

913
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 4: a bow time You're gonna do a bow time out time? Yeah,

914
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: let's let's cool the jets for a second and the

915
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 4: main was gonna start coming out of it.

916
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: Let me uh yeah, we got a bow time out.

917
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,839
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918
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921
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: big of a bite you can take out with that

922
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: large mouth you have.

923
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Speaker 4: The lamas kind of messed me up a little bit.

924
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925
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942
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Speaker 2: Boj Angle says Friendships. The boy saw, the boy saw

943
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: get this lucy out of my mouth. The boy saw

944
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: that there was some there was some you know, some

945
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: heat coming potential heat. Yeah, like we can't cage little Cajun,

946
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: Little Cajun. Now, we gotta simmer it down with that

947
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: little blueberry. I will say that it is good.

948
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: If you want to share, let me get little bit

949
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,479
Speaker 4: to you that you got. See that little bite right there,

950
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: that's the one that when your friend asked, hey, can

951
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: I get a bite? You want to take that one first?

952
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 4: Will was not smart enough to do that though.

953
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: Right now, because the Cajun plays incredible by itself, but

954
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: you put it with that drizzle, that bowberry drizzle and

955
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: just sandwich between a couple of waffles. I shoot what

956
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: they're trying to do? That bite? You're the big biech

957
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: it all. I think you can take it down all

958
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: one bite, don't you think?

959
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 6: No?

960
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: Try? Well, you do have to try. For boys. Everybody

961
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: at home watching right now, they're like, is mit gonna

962
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: take this down? Or not thinking about your family watching

963
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: like they do every Tuesday night.

964
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 8: I'm thinking about my grandparents, think about game game hip.

965
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 8: I'm so sweet they're gonna. I'm there's no way I

966
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 8: can do this whole thing, my dad, you or do not.

967
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: There is no try. You got it. Just shove it

968
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: in there, shove it in there. Okay, all right, that's

969
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: a good bite. Though. That's a good bite. Now get

970
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: back to work. So I do. I don't hate Michigan.

971
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: We're back time in. Yeah, time in time in.

972
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

973
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 4: It's it's very I mean a couple of weeks ago

974
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: you were sitting there saying we're back to hating Michigan.

975
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 4: I'm back to the downfall and back to this, back

976
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: to that.

977
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: It's because you say some spicy stuff that starts to

978
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: spark that few. What do friends do? We gotta get

979
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: spicy up in here. I understand. I understand again.

980
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: We just came off of you're so focused on the

981
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: bowberry glaze. Dude, I'm focused on cage and chicken at here.

982
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: You know, I'm trying to get a little spicy on

983
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: this bus. And it's very clear to me that you're

984
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 4: just hating. And I know I can be a pastoring

985
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: than with I hating. Come on, now, you said I

986
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 4: can't wait to watch Michigan's downfall a multi that's because

987
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: you pass.

988
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: And this is after.

989
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: This is after I said I want Nebraska to do

990
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: better than they did this past year.

991
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: I know I can recall the conversation. Oh you can,

992
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: so you remember being a little nasty. The problem is

993
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: I want you to be so on board because I

994
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: don't want to surround myself with mediocre thinking. Greatness hates mediocrity,

995
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: and mediocrity hates greatness. And when you say, hey, six

996
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: and whatever, seven and six whatever, that that game up

997
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: seven to five, that's where it's like, that's mediocre thinking.

998
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: And I don't want that that to me. I don't

999
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: want that part of my life that is one that's thinking.

1000
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: Right there, here's my boss, you're my boy. So when

1001
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: you say that, that's where professor starts like, all right, right,

1002
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: and you know and you know that about me? You

1003
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: know that about what do you mean? That's what fires

1004
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: me up. I know this.

1005
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: I know Will Compton this. I know when Will Compton

1006
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: goes in the off season, when he played ten full years,

1007
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 4: in the end of that he focused on getting one

1008
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 4: percent better. Being good consistently makes you great. So when

1009
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 4: mische or when Nebraska goes seven and five, if they

1010
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: go seven and five, you are being better every single year.

1011
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: You're being good good, get it, which will lead to

1012
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 4: eventually being great.

1013
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: Okay, So I got a scenario. Okay, so let tell

1014
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: me you're coming off. You're coming off. It's March and

1015
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 2: we're talking about.

1016
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: Football right the rackets here, boys, But let's style it

1017
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 4: in this and if you're bouncing back off of your ACL, yeah,

1018
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 4: you just like, Hey, I just want to start all

1019
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 4: year long, put on some good tape.

1020
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: Just get better than I ended last year. Because I'm

1021
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: coming off an ACL. Are you thinking I'm going after

1022
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: I'm going after all of it. I'm going after all

1023
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: pro super Bowl, Pro Bowl.

1024
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going after what I was already achieving.

1025
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: Is what you're just achieve it. The year before that,

1026
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: the year.

1027
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 4: Before that, five games, zero sacks, no pressure to A

1028
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: was playing the best game football ever.

1029
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: Great.

1030
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 4: So when I tore my ACL, my thought process was

1031
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: get back to what you were doing, get back to

1032
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: Taylor Lawan.

1033
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: And if I was just like, hey, that's kind of

1034
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: those expectations are kind of crazy, Like you're coming off

1035
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: a pretty a major surgery, like let's just let's just

1036
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: have a good year of starting every game. Yeah, but

1037
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: that's not I would be. I'd be You'd be like, bro,

1038
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: you're my boy, Like we need to be going after

1039
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: this thing together.

1040
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we and we go after it. And I'm saying

1041
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 4: we went after it, right, So okay, if that's if

1042
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 4: that's the train of thought you're using, then let's go

1043
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 4: after another bowl game. But you know what I'm saying

1044
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: that you're I'm saying I was at my expectation for

1045
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 4: myself and how I was playing was up here. So

1046
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 4: no matter what I'm thinking, AC, let me buy see

1047
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: what happens. And I'm like, how do we get back

1048
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: to where we were? And so if we want to

1049
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: use your logic. It's like, all right, well, we got

1050
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 4: the monkey off our back of hitting a bowl game

1051
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 4: for the first time since twenty fifteen.

1052
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 2: Let's go right back to just hitting a bull game. No,

1053
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: I want these motherfuckers Capital one bull. I want these

1054
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: boys fucking seven and five.

1055
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 4: I want the dogs out of our brains. Are differ

1056
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 4: I'm trying we operate differently. You're we're saying the same thing.

1057
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: No difference is you're saying national champions No, no, no,

1058
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: Well yeah, like that, that's all we're chasing. Dude, I

1059
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: might need another bow time out.

1060
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 10: Hey, the analogy doesn't really hit the same because Taylor

1061
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 10: was the greatness that he's trying to achieve.

1062
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: That was the year.

1063
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 10: Before he tore his a cl What you're wanting Nebraska

1064
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 10: to do is like, hey, Taylor, your best years were

1065
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 10: when you were in second or third grade. Like it's

1066
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 10: been a minute, Like let's get back to that.

1067
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: And it's like, let's get back to six seventh grade

1068
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: before we start looking at those grades.

1069
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it's been a minute.

1070
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 6: It's been a.

1071
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: Minute, and it's okay, listen, listen, Nebraska fans.

1072
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: You guys are being way too rational in things. Lin

1073
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 4: Louie just talked to you for a minute. Nebraska fans,

1074
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 4: first off, I want to I want you to know

1075
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: I'm on your side. I love Big Red, I love Lincoln.

1076
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: Whenever I go on to Lincoln, the camaraderie, the hospitality

1077
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 4: people being around you, guys are incredible, and I got

1078
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: to witness you, guys Donkey stomp to call Hi out

1079
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: of buffs who are a massive rival of you, guys.

1080
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 4: I am on your side. When I say seven and five,

1081
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: I'm not being like, oh, a little poor Nebraska. I'm

1082
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 4: saying seven and five, like, yes, dude, let's get better.

1083
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 4: Let's just get better than the year before, right, because

1084
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: if we go six and six, we're like, ah, dude,

1085
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: we're the same. I love Matt Ruhle, I love Royola.

1086
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: I love that he's taking and he's literally trying to

1087
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: do exactly what Patrick Mahomes doing, because why Kobe Bryant

1088
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 4: did it for Michael Jordan, Why can't Dylan Roola do that.

1089
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: For Patrick Mahomes.

1090
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 4: We just want to be better every single year, and

1091
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 4: seven and five says you were better than the year prior,

1092
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 4: So yes, you're gonna have the will comptence out there

1093
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 4: and say no to your bust. But when it doesn't happen,

1094
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, well we disappointed it, but we went

1095
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: seven and five like we're better, and next year's gonna

1096
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 4: be eating four better and better and better and better.

1097
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 4: That's what we want every single year. And I do

1098
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 4: want to tell little story REQUI.

1099
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: You're a casual. You're a casual, and that's okay.

1100
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a casual of my friend's team. Yes, yeahs

1101
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 4: I am.

1102
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: But I also give me you see San Diego in

1103
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 2: the first round, dude.

1104
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: And also you want to talk about ball real quick?

1105
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 4: You guys want to get rock hard, rock fucking hard

1106
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 4: watching some blocking go pull up. Late twenty nineteen, Tennessee

1107
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: Titans offensive line. This weekend again, we're gonna do a

1108
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 4: little camping situation. The weather's didn't permit, so we went

1109
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 4: to the main cave and I set up a couple

1110
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: of blow up mattresses. But then, you know, you know

1111
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: how kids are, it's always a war at bedtime. So

1112
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 4: one of my kids, who seems the wife, I sleep

1113
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: in the man cave of my youngest daughter, and I

1114
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: start seeing Andrew Whitworth and I are going back and

1115
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: forth about how like he sent me the tweet he

1116
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: put on Will Compton before he even tweeted it, like

1117
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: just so you know, I'm about to put your boys

1118
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: head on a stake, and hey, it's all good, don't

1119
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 4: worry about it. I know my boy's got thick skin.

1120
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, who is the other center for?

1121
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: I can't believe his name is Eric Wood? Eric Wood

1122
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 4: post that out of nowhere. So I start thinking to myself,

1123
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 4: like it would be an absolute shame. It would be

1124
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: a horrible, horrible shame if offensive linemen around the years

1125
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 4: of twenty thirteen to twenty twenty started just posting their

1126
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 4: blocking videos Rogers Saffold twenty nineteen Raiders clips of them

1127
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 4: blowing talking. Will comes in. So I actually go and

1128
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 4: I found a couple of clips of me and Will

1129
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 4: when we went at it Nebraska, when you try to

1130
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: throw a punch at me after I brought you the sidelines, Raiders,

1131
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 4: when when I walked you out and we got a

1132
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 4: seven average.

1133
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: You guys average two yards.

1134
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: I'm watching I'm watching YouTube videos on my phone, like

1135
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 4: eleven pm on Saturday night, of just these couple of

1136
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: things and then I just start self sucking a little bit,

1137
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 4: and I go to like the twenty nineteen highlights, and

1138
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 4: I start watching these five men just put on a

1139
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: fucking clinic of blocking. It was so beautiful, dude, It's

1140
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 4: like the good old times, the good old days.

1141
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 2: You sit back there. I'm watching b.

1142
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: Blocks with Roger Saffold and Taylor. I'm watching man Reaches

1143
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: by Jack Conklin. I'm watching Aces by Josh Klein and

1144
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 4: Ben Jones. Boy, dude, I might be one of the

1145
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 4: greatest offensive the most underrated, greatest offensive lines that have

1146
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: ever walked this earth.

1147
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: It was so beautiful to see.

1148
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 4: So when I tear my ac I'm trying to get

1149
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 4: back to what I was, what we're trying, what we

1150
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 4: ended up being Nebraska. We don't want to go back

1151
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 4: to what we work because we haven't been there twenty fifteen.

1152
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 4: So we want to this decade, the twenties, let's get

1153
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 4: better every year, and then by the thirties.

1154
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: We're fighting it, baby, We're fighting it.

1155
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 10: I do have I do have a science experiment that

1156
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 10: I would love to implement this.

1157
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: That's why I'll mess with you on a real level.

1158
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 2: What do you mean you know I don't gotta go ahead.

1159
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 4: Sure, the streets right.

1160
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 10: Now, the streets are saying that the Compton Curse is

1161
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,479
Speaker 10: a very real thing the street. It's all over Twitter.

1162
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen that.

1163
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 10: It's all over Twitter.

1164
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: I can vouch for that.

1165
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 10: So I think we go to some kind of place

1166
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 10: like Lids or whatever. We get some basketball jerseys for

1167
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 10: sir Will. We haven't put some on cheer for that

1168
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 10: team in March madness during the game, and see if

1169
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 10: the Compton curse really is real. Let's put it to

1170
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 10: the test.

1171
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm done to do that to me. I just

1172
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: think you get your lid bloodied over and over and over.

1173
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: You just got to keep coming back because one day

1174
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: it's gonna shake you legit.

1175
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: Willis home Willis Homer Simpson when he decided to start boxing,

1176
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 4: just takes punches and punches. Eventually, eventually that person's gonna

1177
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 4: wear themselves out. They're so exhaust hitting Will.

1178
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: In the face. He just won't get knocked out.

1179
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, it's hard to be the man that refuses

1180
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 4: to I don't think that works. Sure, I mean, we

1181
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 4: can try it, but I don't think I think Will's

1182
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 4: heart truly has to be in something for the curse

1183
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: to come alive if the curse is real, which I

1184
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 4: don't believe it is.

1185
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 10: It's even it's even been with some of these bets lately.

1186
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 10: If he if he posts the bet on Twitter, it

1187
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 10: loses if he doesn't post it on Twitter, and then

1188
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 10: he'll he'll post this winning and be like, hey, yo,

1189
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 10: look what I want. Because he wasn't gassing it up

1190
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 10: before the game, right, you need to.

1191
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: Go what was that like?

1192
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 4: Like we called him McPherson up for that, right because

1193
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: he would hit and he would post the winners. Like

1194
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 4: that's maybe where you need to go. You need to

1195
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 4: go with that, Like, don't promote your picks, just say

1196
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 4: I've got picks. I'll let you know how it goes,

1197
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 4: and then you post the winners, right.

1198
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 2: Because Jack always talking about these winners. He's always hitting

1199
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: on it, and dude.

1200
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 4: It's always on the phone. I specifically remember us, like

1201
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 4: we're driving.

1202
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 7: All time, gambling stats. We can and do this if

1203
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 7: we really want to.

1204
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, if you if you guys were to go

1205
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 4: toe to toe, I assume you'd be prosperous. However, at

1206
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: the point we're making and I remember us driving through uh,

1207
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: Chattanooga and all of us are sitting there on the

1208
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 4: border and being like, Okay, what parlays are we going

1209
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 4: to put in? And there was a good long conversation

1210
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: that took place. I can't remember what game I think

1211
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 4: was in Georgia.

1212
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: You ever going to?

1213
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Georgia and.

1214
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: South Carolina, and everybody's got an opinion about what parlays

1215
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 4: and we all dial in our parlays and we go

1216
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 4: to the game, we leave, we get back and Jack's posting.

1217
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: Parlays that hit parlays did it?

1218
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 4: So I think that's where they that's where they hate

1219
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 4: kind of comes is like we see Jay, you maybe

1220
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 4: have a beautiful mind. You get that ray man of

1221
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 4: sports betting, and you trying to get better harboring all

1222
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 4: the wins for yourself, dude, just feeding betting.

1223
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 7: I haven't done a ton of betting since football, and

1224
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 7: I like to take this time to like do a

1225
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 7: little just race. So yeah, soul searching, And I cannot

1226
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 7: wait for Thursday because I'm gonna be dialing it up

1227
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 7: in a big way. And so just so it's out there,

1228
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 7: I will be posting all of my bets before tip

1229
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 7: off at least an hour, so at least an hour

1230
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 7: at least an hour of five seconds before tip. But yeah,

1231
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 7: I don't want to rehash something bad. I will be

1232
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 7: taking U see San Diego as my upset and has

1233
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 7: nothing to do against Michigan. But I look at all

1234
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 7: the upsets constantly and I can't find one that I

1235
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 7: love that's like a twelve verse four twelve verse five.

1236
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 7: So that's wrong at right now?

1237
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: Jack, can I say something?

1238
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, good Man's big and has nothing to do with.

1239
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: This is my first time dive in. I can hope

1240
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: the Amazing Blue do well.

1241
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 4: But I don't know enough about basketball to you know,

1242
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: plant my flag in the round and be like where

1243
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 4: and winks, X Y and Z. I can do that

1244
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: with football. It's hard for me me basketball. I'm watching

1245
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 4: truly as a fan and just hoping for the best.

1246
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 7: It's it's gonna be awesome that there was a moment

1247
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 7: we all, I think experience in elementary and middle school

1248
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 7: or even into high school where that Thursday and Friday

1249
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 7: where they put on all the games at lunch. At

1250
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 7: least they did it in our high school.

1251
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 2: And you have those teachers that are just loving it,

1252
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: and it's sports teachers.

1253
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's basically yeah, it's basically like a free two days.

1254
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that.

1255
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 7: Hopefully we got a couple high schoolers listening, and they're

1256
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 7: maybe listening on Thursday, like about to go into these

1257
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 7: first rounds, and I just hope they're getting fired up, thinking, Man,

1258
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 7: I don't even have to focus today. So God, I'm

1259
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 7: so excited.

1260
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: For Thursday economics class. He would do that shout out yeah,

1261
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: and they love it, dude, I love so fun. I

1262
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: love it. It's gonna be exciting. I can't wait. It's

1263
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: gonna be a fun. Little time update with busting. When's

1264
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: the merch store dropping? So we have an update with

1265
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: the tornadoes and the rain and everything else. We didn't

1266
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 2: get the merch that got to the shop on time, correct,

1267
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: So I believe we're pushing the store drop. You were

1268
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 2: gonna push it a week, push it a week. We'll

1269
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: push it a week.

1270
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 9: But good news is we have almost fifteen hundred people

1271
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 9: signed up, So shout.

1272
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: Out to you guys.

1273
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 9: And if we get to two thousand, do we want

1274
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 9: to do some giveaways?

1275
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 2: H we're getting the two thousand, yea, we're getting two thousand,

1276
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: so yes, give me yeah, definitely one of the promise giveaways.

1277
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: That is what you're saying. Yeah, I'm brainstorm and then

1278
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: yeah we'll get we'll get in the think tank. Yeah, yeah,

1279
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: I think goodways. But but if you're listening right now,

1280
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: go to BWTB dot com and sign up dot com

1281
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: and sign up, and uh, you'll be the first to

1282
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: know when the merch drops. And I think there's gonna

1283
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 2: be a discount.

1284
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 4: Code man discount for the first twenty four to twenty.

1285
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: Four hours, yeah, which will be big. But yeah, if

1286
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: we hit up, if we get these, if we get

1287
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: numbers up to absolutely we should give away merch to the.

1288
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 4: Tier ones and there's gonna be uh. I mean, I've

1289
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 4: seen the merch. She's done a fantastic job. There's some

1290
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 4: new stuff, there's some og stuff, Like it's exciting, it's exciting.

1291
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: What's about to happen?

1292
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one thing we were texting about last.

1293
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: Night, whispers of the bow tie coming back, bow ties

1294
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 2: coming back.

1295
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 4: We got sweatsuits, yeah, travel suits, travel suits for real.

1296
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 4: And I saw that, I like, I scrolled through it

1297
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 4: pretty quick last night and I got to that bottom

1298
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 4: and I saw that sweatsuit and I was like, oh

1299
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 4: my god, let's go the bow tie though, and the

1300
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: bee it's back, just kidding, and.

1301
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: Best sellers will be back too.

1302
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1303
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 10: I picture all of us, well not all of us,

1304
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 10: but everybody. That's like going on a spring to your

1305
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 10: trip in the airport, matching sweatsuits. Yeah, just walking through

1306
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 10: the terminal. That'll be hot. But yeah, I'm down.

1307
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: It'll be hot. It'll be hot.

1308
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 10: They what team is that?

1309
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, people are looking at the squad be like, that's

1310
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: not a team we have. Yeah, he actually look like

1311
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: a basketball team. We got all the high Taylor.

1312
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like in basketball, I'm like normal,

1313
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 4: if you're like a.

1314
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 9: Point guard six, you are like a point guard.

1315
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 4: Though, I'm like, yeah, it's one in the n b A.

1316
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I feel like on the high

1317
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: school set, no easy buckets around me.

1318
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: Hell what pool basketball?

1319
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 4: Well you already know how that goes. I'm talking about

1320
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 4: high school basketball. You need someone to own the paint, buddy,

1321
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 4: I can nile though some.

1322
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: Bows in the paint.

1323
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not afraid to get a little dirty.

1324
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 9: But yeah, shout out to all the people that have

1325
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 9: signed up already. That's awesome.

1326
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nuts. Let's let's bump that up to two thousand.

1327
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: Pump to five thousand, Holy Ship brask expectations on that one.

1328
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 4: But I love I'll get behind that.

1329
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 10: If we hit five thousand. What would you give away?

1330
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 4: A jar of will conference sweat, dude from the sauna.

1331
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: That's what we need to give a jar will sweat.

1332
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: I'll get it myself. We have to get we gotta

1333
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: get it. We gotta get to five.

1334
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: Giveaway Jersey have some raided ones in the closet. Still,

1335
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: what about your sweat? I'll give away a sweat.

1336
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 4: Okay, we put in a little yeah, little Mason jar

1337
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 4: maybe yeah, Mason tres a lot of sweat.

1338
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'm talking about them. A little eaty beaty.

1339
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 4: Ones, little shotglass of sweat. You can maybe meet and

1340
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 4: do a little necklace for somebody, be like, oh, what's

1341
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 4: on your what's on your neck?

1342
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: There? Oh? Nothing? Hard work? Yeah, that's what that is.

1343
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: I mean speaking hard work. Did you see my uh

1344
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: you see my throwback video last night? No? Come on, man,

1345
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: what's your whole neck? Like?

1346
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 6: You know?

1347
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 4: I pull it up because I might have seen it,

1348
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 4: but I don't.

1349
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: Things going viral right now? Okay? Which one is it? Me?

1350
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: Wrestling at ten years old. Okay, I did see that

1351
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: this morning, and I am a pit bull. Look at

1352
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: the grainy film, bro Cody. For whatever reasons, just reliving

1353
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: the youth days back home. You gotta be in the

1354
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: got Yeah, he got a VC art to work, so

1355
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: he had this stuff up on the screen.

1356
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 6: Which are you bill?

1357
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: He's the one in the blue yeah Navy. Yeah, he

1358
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 2: put his little ass day go to the Yeah, here

1359
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: we go. Now we go set up. Look at your

1360
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: boy in the back. Look at you're right there staying

1361
00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: up right there. Your shoulders are wild. This a fake cut.

1362
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: Go into a cradle. So usually when you take the

1363
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: diamond position, because you know when you uh in wrestling,

1364
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: you'll either get top or bottom. If you're on top,

1365
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: you like get around their stomach.

1366
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: Do you want to queen? Move this stuff so you

1367
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 4: can show me.

1368
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, take sure, take a minute. But you

1369
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: get around that. You get around the stomach. You know,

1370
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: you place it on the elbow, rep slowly run the

1371
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: belly button, and right when it touches when the whistle blows.

1372
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: But I'm going diamond like, Hey, I'm gonna diamond cut

1373
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 2: him like I'm gonna put my hands on his back

1374
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna let him up, give him a point

1375
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: because I know he can't take me on my feet.

1376
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: Go Diamond, I'm on the side, and instead of letting

1377
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: him up, I just go for that cradle, just heading

1378
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: aside and crank him up. God damn, I understood most

1379
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: of that. I'm watching that, and I told Cody, I

1380
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: was like, I can't believe that kid never won State.

1381
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm watching him like he has it in him. Sounds

1382
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: like he didn't have the drive. You try to quit

1383
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: in high school. Well, I quit in sixth grade and

1384
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: didn't come back until my parents starting to ground me

1385
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 2: in high school, which is just nuts. His wrestling is

1386
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: a different that's a that's a different animal game. It's

1387
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: a different world. Bro. Is there a piece of you

1388
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: that wishes you had a little call flywer? I do no,

1389
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: But that's like, yeah, you said a little bit of

1390
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: call fire. This is a little bit Yeah, yeah, I

1391
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: see it.

1392
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: You always got a.

1393
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: Little bit of call flower. I tried skipping school when

1394
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: I got this car flower. Yeah, that's we came acting

1395
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: acting all beat out, like I just wasn't feeling it.

1396
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: Had some car flyer, A little blood coming from the ear.

1397
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: How cool do you feel they drain it? No, because

1398
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: it didn't get puffing up like Cody's gotten his drink,

1399
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: because he's got call fliers, like Cody was an actual

1400
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 2: real word, Cody's You don't mess with Cody. Yeah.

1401
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 4: You see Cody at a bar and he's poking in

1402
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 4: the chest. You let that poke happen.

1403
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Coddy, that's when you pull aside. You're like, buddy,

1404
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Like, we're just trying to have

1405
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: a good time out of you don't got to look

1406
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: at everybody thinking they're trying to fight.

1407
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 4: His version of a good time is you know that

1408
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: goes that.

1409
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 10: It's just there's no really he's down in thirty eight

1410
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 10: and he's staring everybody down.

1411
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, we're on vacation.

1412
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 4: There are guys you go and you hang out if

1413
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 4: you're you're at the house pre gaming with the boys,

1414
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, we're have a good time. He's all

1415
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 4: smiles and then they walk through the bar door and

1416
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 4: it's like a trance comes over there.

1417
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought, I.

1418
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 4: Yes, gat gonna bring up Severed because it sounded like

1419
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 4: that's what happened.

1420
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: Severn season finale this week. I am so down the

1421
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: rabbit hole on every theory that is out there. I

1422
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: follow the Severns fan club on x I've been checking

1423
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: out everything, any message board that I can. I can

1424
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: fill my braind with severance, and I have no clue

1425
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen or what's going on. We gotta be careful.

1426
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 9: Jack hasn't watched yet.

1427
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: You haven't watched Jack. He's a Knocksville. Yeah, no wedding

1428
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: all weekend.

1429
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 7: So I got back last night.

1430
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: And you didn't watch it.

1431
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 7: When you got that, I started watching it in five minutes.

1432
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 7: I fell asleep, but you after It's on the to

1433
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 7: do list tonight.

1434
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: Bro, Jane, all right, should I bus We're gonna do this?

1435
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: He doesn't. He does a little mom what is that noise?

1436
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,919
Speaker 2: He's like, I wish you'd take them roll And she's

1437
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: like cutting this little egg and You're like, dude, this

1438
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: dude's a little psycho. Bro, you're not listening.

1439
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 10: Are end on the mic?

1440
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: You guys were in the middle of a podcast. Gart

1441
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 2: started to whisper the things.

1442
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 4: Go ahead, hey, so, or when she's at her desk.

1443
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: You can talk. You have to talk about I was

1444
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: just playing into them.

1445
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 9: Or when she's at her desk looking at the little

1446
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 9: code yeah, and he walks in.

1447
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: My helly, She's like, what the fu? Yeah, bro, I

1448
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 2: don't know what's gonna happen this week, but I am

1449
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 2: so locked the last scene.

1450
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 10: I'm telling you, something's going on with the sister.

1451
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: Something's going on with the sister, Mark sister something.

1452
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: You know.

1453
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: When she pulled up in Colebell's like she's one of James,

1454
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: like the the Jame guy is kind of like this

1455
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: epsteinish figure. It feels like this elite Well I'm just saying,

1456
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: I feel like there's so many like calls to the

1457
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: things that have happened like that happened in the world.

1458
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, mil Check him turning against the system.

1459
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,479
Speaker 2: Everybody else using big words. Miltcheck's not for whatever reason,

1460
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: you gotta talk dumber, like some racial ties going on,

1461
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: and he's just like the man in the system. Milcheck's

1462
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: gonna turn Yeah.

1463
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 9: And we did get one of our og boys back

1464
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 9: on our side, who Dylan, And I'm.

1465
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: Off dealing with Hey, he's he's got to prove it.

1466
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:20,479
Speaker 1: He's go to prove it. Deal.

1467
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: But he's such a pussy dude. If you're hitting severed

1468
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: but in you and you're seeing your wife in that

1469
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: in the in the room. It's like, why is the

1470
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: real life dude? Why is your audi getting upset that

1471
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: she's like having dates on the inside with your severed mind.

1472
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: It's like you could have some fun with that. I

1473
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: mean they're like, hey, can we hug and kiss? I'm

1474
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: looking at my wife like, hey, I would need you to.

1475
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: We'd have to get down in this little private room. Yeah,

1476
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: and then go home and talk about it. Like I

1477
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: feel like like that would be It's me, it's my brain,

1478
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And he's mad and he

1479
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: walks out because he feels like she's cheating on him

1480
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: with him.

1481
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, because Audi dealing doesn't get Hose.

1482
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: Well, he's a he's a punk at home dude. He's

1483
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: not putting in the real work.

1484
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 10: He also milkchick. That's milkshake, Taylor. You've you've been hearing

1485
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 10: milkshake around the office, same guy.

1486
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I understand. And milkchick getting hit with that

1487
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: work life balance.

1488
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 4: Jackson over here is sitting like a flash bang just

1489
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 4: went off in his ear, Like we we wrap it up.

1490
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: No, almost, go ahead and finish your thoughts I was

1491
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: just in his ear or some ship like that. Right now,

1492
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 2: Mark telling Milchick about like he's like, man, it's just work, man,

1493
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 2: Like I'm just gonna take today, and it's like it's

1494
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: hitting miltcheck that he sacrifices absolutely everything for this company

1495
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: that continues to be little him and pat him on

1496
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 2: the head and say, hey, get in line, Miltchick's gonna flip,

1497
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: and it's it's all starting to come to.

1498
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, he already flipped on the one guy that was like,

1499
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 9: that's your job.

1500
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: Devour feculence.

1501
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 9: What does that mean, Taylor.

1502
01:05:53,440 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 2: Eat something ship feculence. Yeah, eat shippecespecs. Mister Drummond, Dude,

1503
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: I love.

1504
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 9: The edit that you sitting in last night, Chirm Dude.

1505
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 4: You know what I love about you, the fucking intentional

1506
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 4: words you put in sometimes, like I know when you

1507
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 4: like something, I always will know when you really truly

1508
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 4: enjoy something.

1509
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: I love this show that it's so amazing.

1510
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 4: It's like one of my favorite qualities of yours is

1511
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 4: the passion in your voice when you truly into something.

1512
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: Thanks that is season finale. This week's in Miss Wong,

1513
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 2: the way they kind of treated her tonight. Just go

1514
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: to your thing and you see that everybody's like this.

1515
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 2: These are raw moments of she's actually a child. The

1516
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: way they're kind of passing around. You're going to take

1517
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: this shuttle and you can see the little bit of

1518
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 2: fear she has of just being young. Dude. Again, the

1519
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: show is is all time and the Little Nuggets It's again.

1520
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 2: The Severn's fan club followed on on on x is

1521
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: follow me, follow me at Underscore, Will Compton both Instagram

1522
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: x TikTok. All right, we're back. Oh speaking to TikTok.

1523
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 2: We might as well just shut out the boys follow us.

1524
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: Oh are we really? Dude? Well, let me ask you

1525
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:07,479
Speaker 2: a question.

1526
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 4: First off, I know kind of said this while we

1527
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 4: was talking love these que cards slippery thet I've kind

1528
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 4: of they've been fumbling.

1529
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: It was good method. Like we've read the Bojangles, we

1530
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: gotta throw them on the ground. Yeah see, I'm not

1531
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: doing that. I'm all, I'm all mixed up when I

1532
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: want to read the bow Jangles. But let me ask

1533
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: you a question.

1534
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 4: What does a mechanic and an auto shop owner in Georgia,

1535
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 4: a taco restaurant operator in Arizona, and a life savings,

1536
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 4: medical Innovator, and Tennessee have in common. Tell Us Taylor, Well,

1537
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 4: they're all small business owners. They're all thriving on TikTok.

1538
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 4: Across the US, over seven point five million businesses from

1539
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 4: the from family owned shops to entrepreneurs, are using TikTok

1540
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: to compete and grow. In fact, forty percent of businesses

1541
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 4: on TikTok say TikTok has allowed them to scale their operations,

1542
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 4: increase sales, and expand to new locations, and that growth

1543
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 4: means jobs. Today, they're over seven point five US businesses

1544
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 4: on TikTok employee more than twenty eight million people, and

1545
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 4: that number keeps growing. Small business businesses thrive on TikTok.

1546
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 4: Learn more about TikTok's contribution to the US economy at

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01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 4: tick TikTok economyimpact dot com.

1548
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: Thanks man, you know I've been doing a little bit.

1549
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: Is I've actually.

1550
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 4: Well yeah, I've actually I start reading the Q cards

1551
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 4: before the show. So my brain's like, you've done this before, buddy,

1552
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 4: Like you just keep on keeping on. You've seen these words,

1553
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 4: you've been a part of these words. Don't let them

1554
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 4: get you terrible. And I haven't done a fucking thing

1555
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 4: for my to get the lasik or whatever it needs.

1556
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 6: To be Donebility, you know what the problem is?

1557
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 4: Done with that one too, and that one. You know

1558
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 4: what the problem is is, I'm gonna do the lay

1559
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 4: Sick and then my wife sends me a bunch of

1560
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 4: horror stories on lay sick and now I'm scared of

1561
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 4: lay Sick.

1562
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna do it, but I'm a little I'm

1563
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: a little afraid now.

1564
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 4: And then something about like being on the podcast and

1565
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 4: just kind of maybe it doesn't go right.

1566
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 6: Comes to doing that.

1567
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: Okay, it mustache coming at my wife.

1568
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 8: No, Taylor's awesome, but it's like, hey, you know, I'm

1569
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 8: gonna try it. I'm trying to do this. Why are

1570
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 8: you gonna make me scared of doing it?

1571
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 4: But my wife is a nervous version of me, which

1572
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 4: I need because if my wife was like me, I

1573
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 4: would be we'd be dead.

1574
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 2: We would essentially be dead. It wouldn't be overdone with

1575
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: that one too. You know who is seeing the field? Well,

1576
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: who's seen the field? Well the Cincinnati Bengals. You know,

1577
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 2: before we go to Cincinnati Bengals, I want to say

1578
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: something about TV shows. Okay, okay, Florid.

1579
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 4: I just sat here for fifteen minutes and I just

1580
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 4: heard gibberish Season four of Shorsy it's out and I'm

1581
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 4: almost all the way through. Jack, have you looked into

1582
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 4: it at all?

1583
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 7: I've seen the first episode and a HALFSD episode two,

1584
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 7: and then like five minutes of the.

1585
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: Third Big transition season. Yeah, big transition.

1586
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 4: It's all about Shorzy. He's getting away from hockey for

1587
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 4: the first time. He's anybody who's ever played sports, whether

1588
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 4: a high school, college or in the professional league. Eventually

1589
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 4: you got to hang it up.

1590
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: Now.

1591
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 4: Shories is in this nice ger not nice career, this tough,

1592
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 4: greer area where he's trying to figure out what's next

1593
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 4: for me. That's gonna fil the void that one of

1594
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 4: what I once was. And it's a fight boys.

1595
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: Is he listening to Busting with the Boys? I hope so.

1596
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 4: Jered Keyser needs to be on this bus. He needs it,

1597
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 4: and they could just be him sitting there because we'll

1598
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 4: be like, hey, have you seen the show?

1599
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, Okay, get off, we need

1600
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: to I'm done to listen to this show though, you

1601
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm done to sit there like

1602
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: yourself in severance and talk through it. Uh yeah, I

1603
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: feel like I was.

1604
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 4: We did it one time and I sat over there

1605
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 4: and that was fun. And now it's become like a

1606
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 4: weekly thing for you guys, and I know next week

1607
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 4: I'll sit on this show again. Well you guys break

1608
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 4: down the finale and I have to hear Jack have

1609
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 4: tonightus again.

1610
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: In his ear? You know what it is too. All

1611
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 2: you need is that one comment that says love the

1612
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 2: severance talk. Yeah, just one, for sure.

1613
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 4: We can have forty that's say stop at the severance talk.

1614
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 4: But if one guy is like love the Severance talk,

1615
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 4: it's not going anywhere.

1616
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 2: Yep, it's not going anywhere. But that's all I say.

1617
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna dive in once we get through

1618
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 9: March Madness and Severance is over. So I'm starting at

1619
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 9: season one.

1620
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: People don't know how big that is. That's huge.

1621
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 4: It's been a year and a half of us talking

1622
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 4: to Garret about get let's go, Yeah, getting on shore,

1623
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 4: Because buddy, I'm just telling you that's you will love

1624
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 4: that show. If I know my g baby the way

1625
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 4: I know my g baby, G Baby's gonna love that show,

1626
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 4: You're gonna love it.

1627
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 9: I can't wait.

1628
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 4: It sounds like you can March Madness seven and then

1629
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 4: after that.

1630
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 9: I can wait.

1631
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, he can wait, but not for very long. Yeah,

1632
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 4: it's gotta be in this year, this calendar year, right now.

1633
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 4: But go ahead, talk football. Will, Bengals are doing great.

1634
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, I'm talking about lazy.

1635
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, where can we find a little transition

1636
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: to talks NFL talk?

1637
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 4: You know who's seeing the field Will? Yeah, the Cincinnati Bengals.

1638
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 4: I don't think they're seeing the field that well.

1639
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 2: I think they're starting to.

1640
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 4: I think they understand they have key pieces they have

1641
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 4: to keep in the locker room. I think Jamar, Chase

1642
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 4: T Higgins, Joe Burrow, those guys all deserve the contracts

1643
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 4: they have.

1644
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 7: If you go to our Twitter or Instagram, you can

1645
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 7: pull up a graphic that our amazing graphic designer Cooper made,

1646
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 7: but shows how much money that LSU.

1647
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 4: Team six and sixty six million dollars.

1648
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't guaranteed.

1649
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 4: Derek Stanley Junior to signed a three year, sixty million,

1650
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 4: three year years. Okay, so three year, ninety million dollar

1651
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 4: deal then. But that Yeah, that team, that team just

1652
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 4: in a numbers value is probably proving to be the

1653
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 4: greatest team of all time, like that was it twenty nineteen,

1654
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen LSU team. That is insane. But let me

1655
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 4: get back on my Bengals take for just a one

1656
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 4: more second. I love the fact that they're keeping these

1657
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 4: these pillars on their team. However, your team wasn't very

1658
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 4: good last year from a record standpoint. Your defense was

1659
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 4: not very good last year. Joe Burrow as amazing as

1660
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 4: he was, and it probably had the numbers to win

1661
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 4: the MVP. They couldn't get in the playoffs. They had

1662
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 4: themselves in a situation where they did not control their

1663
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 4: own destiny in December. So now you got to get better.

1664
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 4: You're keeping the pieces you need, but you're also letting

1665
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson walk away, who is a stud for your team.

1666
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 4: He's an all pro.

1667
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 2: Type of guy.

1668
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 4: He's got to get to the quarterback on a consistent basis.

1669
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 4: He is now a disgruntled employee. He wants to go

1670
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 4: somewhere else he probably will, and now you have a

1671
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:03,879
Speaker 4: worse defense. The hub retired, Yeah Hubbard, the Cincinnati kid.

1672
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: Who had a great highlight like walk away from the

1673
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: game video. Do you see it. Phenomenal stuff.

1674
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 4: Little mini JJ Watt, Yeah, walking around there with a

1675
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 4: little biotical arm. But I just think, yeah, you got

1676
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 4: you gotta add pieces. I looked in they added like

1677
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 4: some fifth year DT who was a fifth round pick

1678
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 4: from the Packers. Other than that, not a whole lot

1679
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 4: of movement and free agency for their defensive on the

1680
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball.

1681
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: Which I get.

1682
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 4: I get you want to keep those pieces, but boys,

1683
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 4: we gotta we gotta strengthen that defense up if you

1684
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 4: want to be if you want your your defense to

1685
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 4: be on the same level as your offense. Your offense

1686
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 4: is incredible. And by the way, there's like one hundred

1687
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 4: and fifty million dollars on the receivers in the quarterback

1688
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 4: and then I think their whole offensive line and is

1689
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 4: like at like sixty nine million. We need to spruce

1690
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 4: those numbers up a little bit too.

1691
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they still have holes. But if you

1692
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: look at last year, like, yeah, they had a very

1693
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: bad defense. To me, I don't think you can go

1694
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 2: anywhere butt up, even though you're losing these perennial players

1695
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 2: like Trey and Sam Hubbard, because with Trey, it's like

1696
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 2: you can only pay so many guys that at a

1697
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: number there that they're going to be happy about. And

1698
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 2: this offense, the way that they were performing, like even

1699
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: though they didn't make the playoffs, they were still like

1700
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: on that back end of the season, they were like

1701
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: a playoff contending team. They were for they were zero

1702
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: and four on like walk off field goals. So again

1703
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: it just comes down to a last second kick with

1704
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: a brutal defense. Again they have they had guys on

1705
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: that defense, but as a unit they were very bad.

1706
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 2: And so now they know that they can just get

1707
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 2: to work on getting young and getting good on defense

1708
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 2: because they were as good as they were on offense

1709
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: last year. And both of these wide receivers are playing

1710
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 2: when they're kind of disgruntled about what their future is

1711
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: with the team that they want to commit to them,

1712
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 2: now they know this team is committed to them. Joe

1713
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 2: Burrows happy because there was a rumor a week or

1714
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: two ago about, hey, if Bengals aren't doing the right thing,

1715
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: Joe be might be asked to trade and who knows

1716
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: if that was even real or not. But now that

1717
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: they've solidified these pieces on offense, they know that they

1718
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: have to get better on defense, and I think, you know,

1719
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 2: you start trying to find these cats in the middle tier,

1720
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 2: lower tier free agency that can help your team out

1721
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: play good defensive football, and then you're gonna have to

1722
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to win in the draft. But I

1723
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 2: still think that they're set up in a very good

1724
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: position to grow off the year that they had last year,

1725
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: now that they got their receivers happy. And again they

1726
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: did lose these key pieces on defense, but defense was

1727
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 2: a question mark for them anyway. Like if signing is

1728
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 2: signing Trey Back going to make your defense better, Like, yeah,

1729
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 2: if he's not on the team, like you get a

1730
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: little worse there. But again, you already know you have

1731
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 2: a lot to fix defensively anyway. You can't just pay

1732
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: a guy like Trey try to get to some number

1733
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 2: that they might compromise on. And he's still a little

1734
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 2: discrinnled and pissed off kind of doing his own thing

1735
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 2: on the defensive front, just thinking about sacks. Yeah, you

1736
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: need some guys to play team defense on the Bengals

1737
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 2: because it's not hey, we're not gonna lean on you.

1738
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: You know, you want the room thinking, hey, let's lean

1739
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: on us to win games. But you just need you

1740
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: need guys playing team defense in Cincinnati, because that offense

1741
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 2: is what's gonna win you these games because you got

1742
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 2: a killer under center, and you got these weapons now

1743
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: on the outside. And it's like I think about the time,

1744
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: it's like them signing Jamar Chase and t Higgins. It

1745
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: like gets back to the years of when you know

1746
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: terrell O and Jinotcho Sinco were on the same team,

1747
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 2: or you had these these supers our receivers, Like they

1748
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: have two contracts out that are in like the top

1749
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 2: five wide receivers. A very happy offense. Yeah, you got

1750
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: to get a little bit better on the offensive line.

1751
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 2: You of course have to pour in defensively, but I

1752
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 2: think that they've established like the cornerstones now, the cornerstones

1753
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: that were already there are now extremely happy that they're

1754
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 2: getting paid. So I think it's just gonna build good

1755
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: juju going into this year.

1756
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're definitely the offensive set of the ball. There's

1757
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 4: there's good juju. And you brot up a good point.

1758
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 4: This might be my offensive bias, but you don't necessarily

1759
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 4: need to break off.

1760
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: Your your defense. You just need eleven guys playing as one.

1761
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 4: Everyone has to understand on what they do how they

1762
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 4: do it edge wall swarms as you need eleven Willie

1763
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 4: seeds with a better tam.

1764
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: It's all you need.

1765
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 4: You need eleven guys with a will Compton mentality and

1766
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 4: a little bit more of a tan from an athletic

1767
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 4: ability standpoint, and you're rolling.

1768
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah right there your top.

1769
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 4: You need a couple of guys that can rush the

1770
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 4: passer because you can't be putting corners in safeties. Will

1771
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 4: you see corners and safeties and positions to be covering

1772
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 4: all day long? Yeah, you got to get to the quarterback.

1773
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 4: You can do that with exotic blitzes and stuff, but

1774
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 4: you much they have four guys that can powerhouse their

1775
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 4: way to a quarterback.

1776
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 2: Now you know a team that needs to make a

1777
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: move or it needs their move to happen is the

1778
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: Steelers Rogers in my opinion, because you're looking at a

1779
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: really good AFC North, especially if the Steelers get Aaron Rodgers.

1780
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: You got the Ravens, the Bengals, the Steelers. Of course

1781
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: the Browns with the Browns, they're not gonna browns, are

1782
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: gonna browns.

1783
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 4: The Browns are gonna brown And I think it's I

1784
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 4: love these edge Rushers, these Max Crosby's, these Miles Garretts,

1785
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 4: these these guys no, no, no, these guys that are not uh,

1786
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 4: these guys that are like, I'm mad about where I'm

1787
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 4: at and then they get broke off. They're like, never

1788
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 4: wanted to leave. Actually, I love It's a game of chess.

1789
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful game of chess. And I think that's

1790
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 4: awesome because that at the end of the day, we

1791
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 4: want our boys to get paid. Yeah, Miles Garrett needs

1792
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 4: to bring his big piece on this podcast. Yeah, and

1793
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 4: we need to show them that photo and be like

1794
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 4: is this real or is this Grays? Yeah, just Grace. Yeah,

1795
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 4: that would actually, well you think, what do you think of.

1796
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,799
Speaker 2: The u the rumor or the headline with Aaron Rodgers

1797
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 2: and the Vikings.

1798
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 4: I don't know, it'd be cool for the story because

1799
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 4: he's then he's following the exact footsteps of Brett Farv.

1800
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 4: But it didn't work out that great for Brett Farv.

1801
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 4: I like I I like him in it, but I

1802
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 4: like like Aaron Rodgers.

1803
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: I feel like still has more.

1804
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 4: I believe he has more train in the tires than

1805
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 4: people believe he has. I think he's still that guy

1806
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 4: and he needs a good room. And I think the

1807
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 4: Steelers make so much sense to me to have DK

1808
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 4: Metcalf Pickens, George Pickens and Buddy Justin Jefferson. I understand O'Connell.

1809
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 4: If it's me, I would want to write my own

1810
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 4: story a little bit differently. It's just I think it's

1811
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 4: just because the Brett Farr progression. I love Tomlin too.

1812
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 4: I think I love I love to fit for the stairs.

1813
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 4: Obviously he's gonna do what he wants. And there are

1814
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 4: the rumors that Aaron Rodgers is kind of just waiting

1815
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 4: on the vikings. But I think you got JJ sitting there.

1816
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

1817
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes comes out and says, JJ mcarthy has the

1818
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 4: best arm he's seen it in forever. He can make

1819
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 4: all the throws, all the things, and it's like.

1820
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: You have those weapons.

1821
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 4: It's a great learning curve for a guy like JJ McCarthy,

1822
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: who's it'll be his first year starting. He saw Sam

1823
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 4: Darnold how the success he did. He's got the guys

1824
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 4: you just said as weapons to dish it out to

1825
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,839
Speaker 4: and allow them to make the plays to build his confidence,

1826
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 4: like why not why not go with this kid?

1827
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: Liss? They know something that we don't know. That's probably

1828
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 2: what's taking so long for the Vikings to get back,

1829
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 2: because it is. It's like, if you're Aaron Rodgers, I

1830
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 2: think the Vikings would be the better fit over these

1831
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 2: teams that are trying to get Aaron Rodgers because again,

1832
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: you're going into an offense that goes with O'Connell, Wes Phillips,

1833
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: you got Brian Flores as a decoordinator. Like, that's a

1834
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 2: defense that's going to continue to just get better. They're

1835
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 2: already very aggressive, Like you're going in a situation that's

1836
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 2: prime for a run the Steelers, Like, yeah, they've gotten better,

1837
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 2: but again, who knows how much. If you're Aaron Rodgers

1838
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 2: looking at it, and you're looking at the Steelers and

1839
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 2: the Vikings, I just think the Vikings would be a

1840
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 2: better situation to go into.

1841
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 4: And it's at the end of the world, it might

1842
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 4: be a better situation for JJ if Aaron comes in.

1843
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 4: I never got to learn from a vet that's been

1844
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 4: there for a while. Hopefully Aaron takes a leadership role

1845
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 4: and be like, all right, I'll bring this guy along

1846
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 4: with me.

1847
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 2: Let's see how it goes. But yeah, I honestly think

1848
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 2: this is the last year for Aaron. I mean very

1849
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: well could be. Yeah, you were talking about just Tredd

1850
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 2: on the tire. I'm thinking what maybe two years max.

1851
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 2: But this is a this is a one year all

1852
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: in situation for whichever team's trying to get him. Yeah, yea,

1853
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: So maybe it could benefit JJ, but I'm sure that's

1854
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 2: probably what's taking the Viking so long as they're having

1855
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: all of these conversations to see, like what kind of

1856
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: move that they could make for Aaron Rodgers. He'll be

1857
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: turning what forty two at the end of this year. Yeah, ripping,

1858
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: he's getting up there, but he can still spin it.

1859
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 4: He can spin it, and he's got he's got some

1860
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 4: savviness about him. Yeah, he's got about him.

1861
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 2: I get you. You're you're talking about Tomlin, who's much

1862
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 2: more of a defensive minded guy. Yeah, but Arthur Smith,

1863
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 2: like that would be a great combination. And then you

1864
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 2: look at the Vikings. You got Phillips and got O'Connell,

1865
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: like that is an offensive mentality right there to where

1866
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 2: they're just level two. They're just operating level two and three.

1867
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: And again you got these cats that have been that

1868
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 2: have played for those coaches and been in the system.

1869
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: You got a dog and Justin Jefferson as you're one.

1870
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah you do have pickens and DK, but you know,

1871
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: j Justin JJ is about that life in ball Addison,

1872
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, I mean you have some weapons studs. Yeah,

1873
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm I'm with you.

1874
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,839
Speaker 4: I just see like everyone's conversation revolves around Aaron Rodgers,

1875
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 4: not as talent, a little bit of better of his age,

1876
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 4: but mostly it's about all the extracurriculars that go on

1877
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 4: around him. Maybe be able to talk about the distraction

1878
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 4: of the Pat McAfee show and all these things. I've never

1879
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 4: seen a coach like Tomlin handle those type of situations.

1880
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 4: You go back to Leveon Bell, Antonio Brown, like having

1881
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 4: those types guys, the Pouncy Brothers, Alejandra Villanoeva, all these

1882
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 4: unique and different personalities under one roof. It seems like

1883
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 4: Tomlin is a guy that can always keep the boat

1884
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 4: level in those situations. And I think that's why he

1885
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 4: would mess show well with Aaron Rodgers and get the

1886
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 4: best a just allowing him to do the X, Y

1887
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 4: and Z things, let him run the playbook he wants

1888
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 4: to run. I know I've seen Arthur Smith sit down

1889
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 4: with Ryan Tannehill before games and Tannehill bluntly going, I

1890
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 4: don't want this play called. I want this play call

1891
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 4: makes you call this on that, And you listen to

1892
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 4: those conversations and you go into the game and you

1893
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 4: realize the situations that Ryan was talking about with Smith

1894
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 4: are now being called and we're having success from that.

1895
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1896
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 4: So Arthur does a great job of collaborating with his

1897
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 4: quarterbacks and just allowing things to kind of come to him,

1898
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:28,839
Speaker 4: which is awesome.

1899
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I like it.

1900
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 4: I mean, good options all around. Yeah, but the Minnesota

1901
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 4: can't be.

1902
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 2: You want to hit that real quick. Yeah, let's shut

1903
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: out the boy Burt Kreisch.

1904
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 4: To talk about Burt Kreusher once again, I want to

1905
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 4: remind everybody that he put up three hundred and twenty

1906
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 4: five pounds. The bet was three hundred and twenty and

1907
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1908
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1913
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: That is today, folks. Yeah, shout out the boy bird,

1914
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: shout out the boy.

1915
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 10: Bad.

1916
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 2: Better throw, better throw.

1917
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, dude, a lot of exciting things, a lot

1918
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 4: of exciting things.

1919
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: March, most draft is coming. Mitch's mustache, Mitch's mustache. He

1920
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 2: is a different man. We need to get a photo

1921
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: of Jared up to Jared shaved his face, and I

1922
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: think the audience needs to see Jared so he.

1923
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 4: Looks like, what's the what's that kid's movie? The Spy

1924
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 4: Kids with the thumbs? Yeah, yep, that's uh, that's Jared.

1925
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's down bad right now. The head part, Yeah,

1926
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 2: he did.

1927
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 4: He did look wild and I was, you know, I

1928
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 4: was being nicer Jared. Oh yeah, sorry, you'll grow back whatever.

1929
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 4: Jared will walk through like, goddamn, see you don't.

1930
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: You don't look like a goon? Is that not Jared?

1931
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 7: Right?

1932
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Speaker 2: There? Just some glasses on it. Them boys are ripped?

1933
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1934
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 4: Is there anything else we want to talk about before

1935
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1936
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1937
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1938
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1939
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1940
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1941
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1942
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1943
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1953
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1954
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1968
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 2: tear talk of best wingmen in the game. Taylor, You've

1969
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: looked in you had a smile on your face that

1970
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 2: you might be ready to roll. Yeah, I feel good

1971
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: about mine. Yeah, I feel strong about mine. Saw this

1972
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 2: last night and I immediately got.

1973
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 4: On got on my phone and started looking up the

1974
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 4: greatest waymen in pop culture history, and I realized that

1975
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 4: the answer has been in.

1976
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 2: Front of me the whole time.

1977
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 4: Oh please, So my Tier three is going to go

1978
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 4: to Doug Glatt. Doug the thug Glatt the movie Goon.

1979
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 4: He is the greatest wingmen of all time.

1980
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 2: La Flem.

1981
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 4: He is a goal scoring hawk on the on the Highlanders,

1982
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 4: and he can he can shoot and score, but he's

1983
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 4: lost a little bit confidence after he took a big hit.

1984
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 4: Doug the thug Glat comes in and protects him, bringing

1985
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 4: his confidence back to a whole new level, willing to

1986
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 4: make the sacrifices physically so his boys can make the

1987
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 4: goals finessely. So I have to give Doug the thug

1988
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 4: Glatt my tier three when it comes to wingmen. My

1989
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 4: tier two could have easily been Tier one. By the

1990
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 4: way this is, this is like a one A one

1991
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 4: B for me is gonna go to Jeremy Gray wedding Crashers.

1992
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 4: That is Vince Vaughan's character, a man who has the

1993
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 4: moves he does, tells the jokes he does. He rambles

1994
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 4: on and lays on the sword for Owen Wilson John,

1995
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 4: his character John, while he's trying to court this woman

1996
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 4: over and over again and eventually finding love along the way.

1997
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 4: There's not a better wayman than that, except for my

1998
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:28,520
Speaker 4: tier one. Now, my tier one is a real individual.

1999
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 4: I've seen so many times. This man close for his boys,

2000
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 4: whether it was college or high school or wherever. He's

2001
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 4: talked about it on Bad Friends podcast. My Tier one

2002
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 4: is myself. I am the greatest man all of all time.

2003
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: No Mooch.

2004
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 4: I've done work for mooch too. I've done work for

2005
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 4: all my boys. Dude, there's nothing about a shameless friend

2006
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 4: that's willing to walk over to anyone at any time

2007
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 4: and tell them, Hey, I'm here for you, but not

2008
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,799
Speaker 4: just me. My boy's more here for you than anybody

2009
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 4: else could ever be in their entire life. Walk with me,

2010
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 4: talk with me, and I'm gonna bring you over to them.

2011
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 4: Have a couple of drinks, see where the night goes.

2012
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 4: At a high percentage too. That at a high percentage,

2013
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 4: not to mention. Also from a recruiting standpoint at the

2014
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 4: University of Michigan, I only lost one guy ever, all right,

2015
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 4: I only lost one guy in the recruiting pitch.

2016
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 2: So that's my tear.

2017
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 11: Talk manself to Tier one self glaze very.

2018
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 10: Safe week to do that with no JP on the

2019
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 10: bus that could have been.

2020
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 4: I thought about putting Patrick Starrs my honorable mention for

2021
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 4: JP as a tip of the Katha JP, I have

2022
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 4: some tears.

2023
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: I want to hear your word first.

2024
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 12: Solid, well done, hyphenated, hyphenated, big guys.

2025
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 2: Mhm, vain but good though, vain but in a good way. Yeah.

2026
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, all big guys is a good comment. Gee, that's

2027
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,520
Speaker 4: really that's detailed, that's thought out, big guys.

2028
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how to how to rate them,

2029
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 2: how to rate my three? Right now? I love them all.

2030
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 2: Take a moment, take a second, not too long, though,

2031
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 2: I think you have to. My tier three is going

2032
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: to be Vince Vaughan from Wedding Crashers. Wow.

2033
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 4: Sorry, well you think that's low, you have the floor

2034
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 4: we get we can break all that.

2035
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 2: You think that's low? Yeah, I mean vis Vaughan incredible

2036
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 2: waiting Crashers, the maneuvering he does, Yes, the boost talking

2037
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 2: out out you on my hair, just a tip, just

2038
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 2: for a second, just to see how it feels. I think. Uh,

2039
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 2: Vince Vaughn is my three, my two and man, I

2040
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: don't want to say this, but I'm gonna go with

2041
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 2: the boy. I'm gonna go with the boy Taylor, and

2042
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 2: he's right, like I have zero experience with him, but

2043
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,560
Speaker 2: I you just you see the man work, and this

2044
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 2: is a guy you talk about no quit fight at

2045
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: the end if he were to get a challenge like that.

2046
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 2: I do think. I do think it is Taylor, Like Taylor,

2047
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 2: Taylor is up there. I mean, you're Tier two. And honestly,

2048
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 2: it pained me to hear you tell yourself tier one,

2049
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 2: because honestly I was about to put you there. Really,

2050
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 2: I was kind of helping you go first with the

2051
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 2: hope that a go ahead, go ahead.

2052
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 4: I'm all smiles right now to my cheeks hurt.

2053
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I think it's you. I think again

2054
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 2: a lot like Vince Vaughn, you know, very first pot

2055
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 2: I guess we did on OTP. Like my comparison for you,

2056
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 2: like personality wise and everything else was is Vince Vaughan

2057
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 2: out of like a wedding crasher's movie. And I think

2058
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 2: you operate on that kind of level. And I give

2059
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,640
Speaker 2: you the nod because I have a personable relationship with you,

2060
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 2: So I give you the nod over Vince Vaughn and Vincy.

2061
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 2: If you're out there watching my Tier one's gonna be

2062
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 2: none other than Barney Stinson from How I Met Your Mother.

2063
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 2: I think Barney Stinson is yeah, have you met Ted.

2064
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 2: He's just he's a wordsmith. He's suited. He's like, let's

2065
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 2: suit up. He's got a theme for all of it.

2066
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 2: When you're stepping out, he's like, let's get let's get

2067
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 2: suited up, let's get suits on. He's got a closet

2068
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 2: full of them. And he's just That show How I

2069
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 2: Met Your Mother was It's probably my favorite sitcom. And

2070
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:46,600
Speaker 2: I think we've done tier talk before on sitcoms, and

2071
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 2: I do believe How I Met Your Mother might have

2072
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 2: been my number one. But I love that show and

2073
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 2: I love the character of Barney Stinson and I think

2074
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 2: that guy is the number one wing man of the game.

2075
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 2: And if you ever had a night out or had

2076
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 2: the ability to have one with them, I think you

2077
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 2: it would be a memory that you never forget in

2078
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 2: your life. And so that's my tear talk.

2079
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 9: I'm watching How I Met Your Mother for the first

2080
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 9: time right now, season four, so I'm very happy. I

2081
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 9: know what you're talking about.

2082
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: How great is that show? Phenomenal? It's so good, a

2083
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 2: good show. Ted is a bitch though it. Yeah, I

2084
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 2: don't like how much. I think he's a little.

2085
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 4: He has his moments and in all the moments I'm

2086
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 4: thinking about in my head of him being a bitch

2087
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 4: I have actually done myself. But still it's watching it.

2088
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 4: It's like, God, damn it. Man, he's the vulnerable one,

2089
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 4: and you can be vulnerable, you can be you can

2090
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 4: be vulnerable yet dangerous. You can feel strong, you'd have

2091
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 4: a soft size, you can have all the things.

2092
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 2: It just shows, but then the side side characters aren't

2093
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: what they are unless ted is the way. You know

2094
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 2: what I mean? True? Well written, yeah, very well written.

2095
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 4: My one word, amazing, elite.

2096
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 2: Incredible, greatest you've ever done. Yeah, I have never had

2097
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 2: a better moment on this podcast.

2098
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 7: Hyphenated legend, wait for it, let's go Jack g G

2099
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 7: looked at me and he goes, wait for it, Darry,

2100
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 7: and then he asked the mic, I go, don't steal

2101
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 7: my So that's me and G's I guess tier two.

2102
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 9: That's my that's my hyphenated tier two.

2103
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 6: Damn good.

2104
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 2: The boys fuck not have been my favorite tear talking

2105
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: all the time, and that's you. Guys said that to him,

2106
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 2: thinking like, damn, that was a good teer talk, smiling

2107
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 2: and if I would have went first, I think you

2108
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 2: would have been the one really. Yeah, I just the

2109
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 2: double back you would add said kiss, because I think

2110
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: you got it.

2111
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 9: Man, I'm surprised you didn't put it like I.

2112
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,959
Speaker 2: Just wanted to put a fictional character to in everybody,

2113
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 2: Like if you've watched How I Met Your Mother, everyone

2114
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 2: that Barney is only once Barney Stinton rolls off the tongue,

2115
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna be.

2116
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 9: What's that Insprised you didn't dow Ryan Reynolds.

2117
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 2: And what like?

2118
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 9: Just in general?

2119
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, the attention, but get away. Ryan

2120
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 2: Rods are kind of in a different It's a lot

2121
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 2: going on in the internet between Blake Laveling Ryan Reynolds.

2122
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 9: Oh really, should we dive into.

2123
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 2: Not the best? Yeah, not a good look for a boy,

2124
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 2: he continued.

2125
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, can I see something without knowing nothing as something

2126
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 4: without knowing? I don't know any context at all about this. Yes,

2127
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna say something.

2128
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of Brian Reynolds.

2129
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 4: Okay, that wasn't that was no, No, No, I wasn't gonna

2130
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 4: just regardless of what's happened, He's talented and like like stuff.

2131
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you thought we were No, I didn't know that's

2132
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 2: what I was. Oh no, I just.

2133
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 4: Feel like a lot of times, like a lot of

2134
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 4: times when this this this stuff happens, people just toss

2135
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 4: you out to the side. Ryan, I want you to

2136
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 4: know I'm still a fan.

2137
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yo yo, yeah right yeah, probably a beautiful piece. Yeah,

2138
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm fired up about that. To your talk. You know

2139
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 2: who just missed the cut and again zero ex Joeys.

2140
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,520
Speaker 2: But you just assume based on the stories and everything else. Delaney.

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Speaker 7: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Honorable mention to Delaney Walker. Yeah, good call, because I

2143
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 2: was like, do I want to go, like, you know,

2144
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 2: do I want to have two characters fictional? Because I'm

2145
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 2: sitting there, I'm thinking about thinking about Taylor, I'm thinking

2146
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 2: about Delaney. I'm even thinking about my boy Logan log Yeah. Bro,

2147
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 2: Like he's just got this spirit about him. He'll approach anybody,

2148
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,600
Speaker 2: he'll approach any group and being on Bachelor parties and

2149
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 2: everything else with him, like he's just got that spirit

2150
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 2: about him to where it you know, he's not the

2151
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 2: most intimidating, but he just he has a confidence that

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01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 2: it doesn't you know what I mean, you know, you

2153
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 2: know what it's like you might you might eye up

2154
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 2: a table of gals or a group of couple and

2155
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: the boys, and I'm one of them. You kind of

2156
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 2: wanted to where you're little, you're nervous dances. Yeah yeah, yeah,

2157
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah. Like I'm one of the more nervous guys.

2158
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm not like that. I'm not like a tailor. I'm

2159
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 2: not like the guys. It's like they don't think nothing

2160
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 2: of it. They have the confidence, they have the bravado

2161
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 2: and everything else. I don't know if it was the

2162
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 2: teeth I had when I was young, to where there's

2163
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 2: just like a festering that happens where it's like, hey,

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01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 2: you know, how are we gonna how are we gonna

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01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 2: go approach this group? And there's just a guy in

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01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 2: the group that just has seems to have the confidence

2167
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 2: in the all the confidence in the world that just

2168
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 2: that they you're like game strategizing with the fellas. And

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01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 2: then there's this one that's like, oh, yeah, why why

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01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 2: are we spending so much time talking about this?

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01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 9: He's already at the take, he's at the table, like

2172
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:35,759
Speaker 9: why you're talking?

2173
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 2: He's leroys. Yeah, and he's got the you know, he's

2174
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 2: got the ladies coming over to where you're mixing it up,

2175
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 2: you're talking and everything else, and Logan's got that. He's

2176
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 2: got that ability.

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Speaker 4: Shout out logan, because you need a guy. Yeah, you

2178
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 4: need a guy that hits. And a lot of times

2179
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 4: the guys that are like the type of confidence, they're

2180
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:51,640
Speaker 4: in it for themselves.

2181
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 2: They like to go in.

2182
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:55,759
Speaker 4: They know what they're doing, they know what their mission is. Yeah,

2183
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 4: it's a it's a different kind of guy. It's like

2184
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:00,040
Speaker 4: trying to you gotta push it off this. Hey, this

2185
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 4: is how are you? Everything's good? Boom, pass the ball,

2186
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 4: to pass the ball to your boys.

2187
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 2: And but that ball ultimately comes back around. I mean,

2188
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 2: we're we're very happily married, but.

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01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry to process the ball back around thing here.

2190
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 2: Like, yes, the the vibe you give off, it ultimately

2191
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 2: works back in your favor because you're making it all happen.

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01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 4: You're you're like the guy that's facilitator.

2193
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's facilitating a little thing. And then you know,

2194
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 2: the ladies start talking to that gentleman because they have

2195
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 2: the ability, they have that approachable ability, you know what

2196
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 2: I mean. I feel it's like the guys that are

2197
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 2: that are like us, you can get in your own

2198
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 2: head about how your game and your strategy is going

2199
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 2: to be and it's ultimately it's like a paralysis by analysis.

2200
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 2: You're like overthinking it. With the guys who can approach

2201
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 2: and do everything else, they're making it about a purpose

2202
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 2: bigger than themselves. But at the end of the day,

2203
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 2: that one that one can win. I'm never more beautifully

2204
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 2: done than again. Like Rob, Yeah, and I was gonna.

2205
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 4: Make no because I don't I've never seen him really

2206
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 4: be a wingman. Like Rob is definitely one of those cats.

2207
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 4: Even in high school, like we would go to places

2208
01:37:58,280 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 4: and he's like, oh, I'm gonna go home and change

2209
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 4: real quick, and then he just would not ever come

2210
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 4: back out because you know, somebody would come over or

2211
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 4: something like that.

2212
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 2: And even now like I will, like.

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01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 4: I remember specifically, like when my wife and I first met,

2214
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 4: I went and got pizza with Rob, my wife, Tilon,

2215
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 4: and one of Taylor's friends and Rob comes in. If

2216
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 4: we say what's up. I introduced them as the first

2217
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 4: time Tailor and this girl have met Rob. Rob goes

2218
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 4: somebody use the bathroom, we sit downtail and goes He's

2219
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 4: fucking hot, and I'm thinking I'm trying to court Tailing.

2220
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 4: So I'm like in this like interesting little like Okay,

2221
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 4: how do I navigate that world right now? Right? Because

2222
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 4: I brought you? But I realized this is what Rob

2223
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 4: Bogie's beach and you're the sand, you know, and that

2224
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 4: scares me a little bit. But Rob just has it

2225
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,839
Speaker 4: about him. And it's not about Rob how like confident

2226
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 4: he is. It's the it's the laugh, it's the smile

2227
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 4: and the laugh and that beautiful head of hair that

2228
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 4: he has. He's just he has it. Mike Campanaro has it.

2229
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 4: Who else there's one camp.

2230
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 2: Will go camp. He's he's like a guy that will approach. Yeah,

2231
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 2: he's gotta to approach. But I feel like the honorable

2232
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 2: mention Mike men.

2233
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 4: But also is Mike working for the boy or is

2234
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 4: Mike working for Mike. That's why that's where the wingman

2235
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 4: think it's a little pulled apart right there, because I

2236
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 4: think Mike walks into the situation. He sees, he sees

2237
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 4: the field, he sees the entire thing. He's got no

2238
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 4: peripheral vision issues. He knows where he's going, he gets

2239
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 4: where he's going, and then he gets out of there.

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01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 2: Like Mike.

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01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 4: Mike's a ninja smoke type of guy. Like all of

2242
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 4: a sudden you'll see a dust and he'll be just

2243
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 4: out of the out of the room. And that's why

2244
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 4: I think is beautiful. That's a whole another game that

2245
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 4: I don't There's a lot of rules out there, right,

2246
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 4: a lot of rules out there. Yeah, Mike's a finisher. Yeah,

2247
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,719
Speaker 4: he's a finisher. He's a closer.

2248
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 2: You know. It looks like you put me behind the

2249
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 2: eight ball and I'll figure it out.

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01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it's almost better if Mike stumbles and falls

2251
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 4: to the ground at first. He's like, good, got the

2252
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 4: first hit out of the way type of mentality. So yeah, dude,

2253
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 4: shout out fucking the boy, shout out.

2254
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 2: This tear talk, Yeah, fun tier talk. Should you dive

2255
01:39:53,600 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 2: into the interview after just bouncing ball everywhere? We will

2256
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 2: dive into this interview after we shout out and Neutral.

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01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 4: Neutral Neutral, Yep, Neutral tastes great, tastes so much better

2258
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 4: than then what else is out there. Neutral is made

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01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 4: with real vodka and real juice. Neutral comes in a

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Speaker 2: And this thing is.

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01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 4: A crowd pleaser. See here, let me tell you about

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01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 4: neutral quick. Three four years ago. I'm in British Columbia, Canada.

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01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 4: There's a little bush league, a little softball league. Hey,

2267
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 4: we're going to the bush guarden. We're gonna hang out,

2268
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 4: We're gonna boos, we'renna have a great time. We go

2269
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 4: into this liquor store. They come out. Quinn Taylor's bow

2270
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 4: is like, you got to try these things. I look

2271
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 4: at him like, wasn't neutral? He's like, no, Neutral. We go,

2272
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 4: we grab these things. I put down three, four, five,

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01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 4: fifteen of these boys throughout the day, well probably through

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01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 4: the course. You know, we had a bump numbers up

2275
01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 4: when we're talking. Yeah, these things taste delicious, feel so great.

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01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 4: There's just enough carbonation in there where you're not your

2277
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 4: tummy's not upsets actually settling. Neutral this stuffespecially if you're

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01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 4: watching that beautiful figure, there's phenomenal stuff.

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01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 2: Phenomenal stuff. Neutral, Keep it tasty, dude, shout out Ainteuser

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01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 2: busch Man for real, for real?

2281
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 4: God ayoy know, just I'm just fired up. Big tiny kisses,

2282
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:23,560
Speaker 4: gotta have it. Enjoy Steve Vanella.

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01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:27,679
Speaker 2: Subscribe on subscribing Subscribe Love it leave comments. All right,

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01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 2: Welcome to Busting with the Boys. This interview is brought

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01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 2: to you by bud Light. My god, Steve Ranella, you

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Speaker 2: are very first bud Light interview of our lives. Really yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, Peyton Manning, George Kittle, Baker Mayfield, em It's

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Speaker 4: Smith Post Malone, Dustin Pourier. There is something about the

2295
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Speaker 4: bow tie, there's something about ann Iserbush in general. But

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01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 4: bud Light sitting down with your boys, hanging out, having

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01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 4: that drink. And now we have like a company that

2298
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 4: sits there and they're.

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Speaker 2: Like, yo, we want all one want to go with

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01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,920
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Speaker 2: shout out Saint Louis, Missouri. Steve Vanella. I will say, Taylor,

2304
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if you feel this way, but and

2305
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to slight any guests we've ever had,

2306
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 2: but I feel like Steve is the most fascinating guest

2307
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:36,680
Speaker 2: that we've gotten to sit around talk with experience, and

2308
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 2: I'm excited for this interview because you're You're deeper than

2309
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 2: all of us. I feel like every story that you tell,

2310
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 2: you can just hang out with you and you have

2311
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 2: a story for absolutely everything, and you get to learn

2312
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 2: about you a little bit. You got your you start

2313
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 2: to find your niche and writing, and you have this

2314
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 2: way of storytelling and bridging the non hunters with the

2315
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,799
Speaker 2: hunters that come, the conservation stuff, just the history of hunting.

2316
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 2: You're able to bring it all in in every experience

2317
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 2: or the two experiences that we've had hunting with you.

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01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 2: So I feel like you're the most fascinating guests we're

2319
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:08,839
Speaker 2: going to have on this podcast.

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01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 1: That's great, man. I don't want to say anything to

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01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: ruin it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna end.

2322
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 4: No, He's He's absolutely right. Like coming up here last

2323
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 4: year we wanted a little duck hunting. There was obviously

2324
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 4: some nerves because we knew, like we were aware of

2325
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 4: you from well, I mean the first time I saw

2326
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 4: it was on Joe Rogan and just you're the the

2327
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 4: amount of passion in how intentionally you are about conservation,

2328
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 4: about hunting all like, and you now will and I,

2329
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 4: who are too domesticated cats are walking into Montana like

2330
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:39,599
Speaker 4: God's country to sit with you and all your professional

2331
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 4: buddies to go on a hunt. It's like, man, I

2332
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 4: hope these guys like kind of embrace us a little bit,

2333
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 4: because I don't know if you've like not, I don't

2334
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 4: know if you notice a bit like in the Man's

2335
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 4: banned community, there's always like this like egotistical like kind

2336
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 4: of dick measuring competition going on. I don't know if

2337
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 4: you guys would be like kind of laughing at us.

2338
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 4: But we came in and you guys were awesome, Like

2339
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 4: you guys just treated us as like legit like we were,

2340
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 4: but in a good way, like hey, we're going to

2341
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 4: teach you up. You know, these are the dues, these

2342
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:05,799
Speaker 4: are the dons. You guys are great with gun safety

2343
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 4: and all that. So it was it's been it's been

2344
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 4: a fun second experience as well. It's just awesome, So

2345
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 4: we do appreciate it. What is what is it like

2346
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:17,600
Speaker 4: having guests that don't necessarily know what they're doing in

2347
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 4: the hunting world.

2348
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: I enjoy it. I've always liked it because it lets

2349
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: you let's it lets you see the world through uh

2350
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 1: fresh perspective, a new perspective. I got started and doing

2351
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the outdoor stuff, hunting,

2352
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 1: fishing and trapping and all that. I got into very young,

2353
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 1: so I have no recollection of starting out doing it,

2354
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: and it is really it's exciting for me to bring

2355
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: people in and have them see it for the first time.

2356
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons I like to get out

2357
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 1: with my kids a lot and just like kind of

2358
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 1: see it through new you know, to see it through

2359
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 1: a new perspective. And I think at a point too,

2360
01:44:55,920 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: when you get like.

2361
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 2: Not at all just turned off operation. You're running Steve,

2362
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 2: what he bumped the light switch there?

2363
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 4: So we're still rolling though, we're still didn't go.

2364
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 2: Out, just the light go with your kid's new perspective.

2365
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's a thing that happened. I hear

2366
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 1: people say that this happens, but I couldn't even picture it.

2367
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 1: Happening is uh, people say, well, eventually just more fun.

2368
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 1: Touh like, see other people have success. You know, I

2369
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 1: got this body mine. Uh do you name Zuck that I.

2370
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 2: Hang out with a lot, does his own Facebook?

2371
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: Nokay, no, this dude, No, this dude's last name is

2372
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 1: just straight up Zuck. Uh. It just ends at the

2373
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 1: K guy Zuck called mother Zucker. Uh. This dude, like,

2374
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: so he's hunting his whole life. You know, he don't

2375
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 1: hunt now. He only like it's just like he just

2376
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 1: don't seldom.

2377
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2378
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just he just likes to take people and

2379
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 1: just whatever it is he just has where he doesn't

2380
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: need to do it anymore. He just wants to have

2381
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:15,640
Speaker 1: He wants to help other people. And uh, you know

2382
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:17,640
Speaker 1: I could picture I'm not I'm not there, but I

2383
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 1: could picture that more and more happening. Right, It's just

2384
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 1: fun to take people.

2385
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 2: I think, did you have fun watching me miss the

2386
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 2: coyote yesterday?

2387
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 1: I had more fun watching that happen than than if

2388
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:30,799
Speaker 1: I had gotten it. Yeah.

2389
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it sounds like, based on listening

2390
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 2: to the other conversations, you could have had an opportunity

2391
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 2: to get it too. Well, there was a gun in

2392
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 2: your hand and you decided to lie. If I had

2393
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 2: that gas gun, I would have put it down right

2394
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 2: when you miss it.

2395
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 1: Well, the main thing I woke Yeah, it's something I

2396
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: woke up in the morning and I thought I was

2397
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 1: gonna grab my shotgun. If we'd had a shotgun, we'd

2398
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: have had it. But he just he came in. He

2399
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: came hard and fast. Yeah, Rabbit number six was the

2400
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: sound we were playing.

2401
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah with that call or like you're playing a video game.

2402
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I got these new calls. Let me

2403
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 2: try him out. Max. Yeah.

2404
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Max was showing me the film and dude, the

2405
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,640
Speaker 4: intensity he came right, okay, yeah, all right, go.

2406
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 2: Bro and him and I'm sticking putting myself in Will's position.

2407
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 2: I was so nervous. Steve was under the weather, so

2408
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 2: he wasn't at the shooting range the day before when

2409
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: we're trying to dial in the shots and you're messing

2410
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 2: with the tripod and you're trying to lock it in

2411
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 2: and get a good shot, and obviously the targets aren't moving.

2412
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 2: So when we get there the next morning and they're like, hey, Will,

2413
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 2: you're gonna go with Steve, I'm like all right, you

2414
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 2: know you're feeling the nerves, like all right, I gotta try,

2415
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 2: and I want to try, and you know, make Steve proud.

2416
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 2: This is my captain. And so we sit down and

2417
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 2: within were then sitting down. Within five minutes, he puts

2418
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,599
Speaker 2: the call out there and right away it's like, hey, hey,

2419
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: there's one there on the right, Get on it, Get

2420
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 2: on it. Are you on it? All right?

2421
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna shoot it.

2422
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 2: Shoot it when it stops. And then I'm like, I'm

2423
01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 2: trying to get it dialed in and realizing my tripod

2424
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 2: like okay, I can't set up to where I get

2425
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:03,919
Speaker 2: it tightened up. And I'm scoping in on this coyote

2426
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:05,719
Speaker 2: like it doesn't seem like it's going to Scott stop.

2427
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 2: This thing's moving and he's like, shoot when it stops.

2428
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 2: And then it wasn't stopping, and it keeps coming in

2429
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 2: faster and faster and the vaulge will be out soon.

2430
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 2: And I started just trying to follow it on the

2431
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 2: scope and he's like shoot it and he and then

2432
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:19,760
Speaker 2: there's a pause and he goes, are you.

2433
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 6: Gonna shoot it?

2434
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,759
Speaker 2: And I'm like yeah, I take a shot and missed

2435
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 2: and I looked to the right and I see Steve

2436
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 2: and he's just laughing.

2437
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 1: Just having a fun.

2438
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 4: It blows me away, like you, Stephen and go was

2439
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 4: with Garrett and we're like just the intentional walking. First off,

2440
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 4: you guys are men's on mission. Like you guys are

2441
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 4: just going at a pace that there's no domesticated human

2442
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 4: being can actually go at and walking like Garrett. Garrett'll

2443
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 4: just start walking and I'll be like walking behind. I'm

2444
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 4: like kind of like watching his feet and stepping where

2445
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 4: he steps, and then all of a sudden, he'll just

2446
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 4: abruptly stop, like adult, You're just gonna look around a

2447
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 4: little bit, and you just He's like, I was like,

2448
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,080
Speaker 4: all right, I have no idea what you saw, but

2449
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 4: picking out even you and the targets the day before,

2450
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 4: he'd be all right, go to F whatever it is,

2451
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 4: seven hundred fifty yards off to your left, and I'm

2452
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 4: just like, I.

2453
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: Got this scoping my hand.

2454
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 4: I'm just doing figure eights trying to figure out where

2455
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 4: the hell is this F And I find the number.

2456
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 4: You're all right to the left of that, Okay, to

2457
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 4: the right of that. And it's just you guys' ability

2458
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 4: to just see the world out of the like the

2459
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 4: live the live animals that are walking around is just

2460
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:27,639
Speaker 4: mind blowing.

2461
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that kind of stuff like definitely comes

2462
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 1: from a lot of exposure and shooting at the range

2463
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: is great and you learn a lot of shooting at

2464
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 1: the range, but never you can't replicate the stuff like

2465
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,640
Speaker 1: what we saw with where there's like timing, yeah, you know,

2466
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 1: timing and then trying to predict like behavior and you

2467
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 1: know it's it's tough, man, it's tough. You gotta have

2468
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, it takes a ton of field experience. But

2469
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 1: the the walking deal, that's the thing that's always bummed

2470
01:49:55,760 --> 01:50:00,120
Speaker 1: me out. As there's no sort of glory uh uh,

2471
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: there's no like Olympics ship do you know what I mean?

2472
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:09,720
Speaker 1: There's no like championship walking for just walking through the

2473
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 1: woods man or like walking, you know what I mean,

2474
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 1: Like there's no record, there's no way that you ever

2475
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 1: get formal recognition for just being really good at like

2476
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: a measured pace walk. Do you take do you take governing? Body?

2477
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 2: You take pride in? Like are you aware that you're

2478
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:26,759
Speaker 2: just burying me as we're climbing?

2479
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 1: I'm aware that Like, yeah, if I started to run,

2480
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 1: I would have shin splints would be terrible. But if

2481
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 1: it's just like a walking, yeah, it's like I'm I'm

2482
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,679
Speaker 1: extremely good at just regular walking.

2483
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah they were climbing, just regular walking, dude.

2484
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 4: But catching those beavers too, Like it's I felt like

2485
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 4: a newborn deer just trying to like get around and

2486
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, I'm like in the MUDs sinking.

2487
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 4: And you were smart too, because at one point you're like, hey,

2488
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 4: if you want to just grab these other traps, and

2489
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, I'm like a little kid, like no, I'll

2490
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 4: go with. Your dad was just in the back, like

2491
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 4: I'll stay here. You've had enough of Steve, you boy,

2492
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,679
Speaker 4: I'll just come with. We're walking Around'm in the middle

2493
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 4: of telling some story that Steve doesn't give two ships

2494
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 4: about it. Not just my left leg all of a

2495
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 4: sudden just goes like, you know, three feet and the

2496
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 4: thing I'm like kind of stuck for a little bit.

2497
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,560
Speaker 4: He's getting like multiple traps while I'm like prying my

2498
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 4: leg out. You just you just understand terrain.

2499
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 1: You know that that spot right was joking, had you

2500
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 1: walk into that spring yea and get stuck in.

2501
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:31,800
Speaker 2: That body, I almost dying there. We'll go ahead and

2502
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 2: check it out.

2503
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's this little there's a there's a spring. It's

2504
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 1: kind of it's a it's a warm spring. It's not

2505
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 1: warm to the touch, but warmer than the stays open

2506
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: year round where that water comes out of there. And

2507
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 1: I had waited in there, and I was joking about

2508
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 1: getting stuck in there, but like, later, look, I went

2509
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 1: into this little mock pocket and got stuck. And then

2510
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:54,600
Speaker 1: later it was kind of like thinking like, man, but

2511
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, you were to myself like I was stuck, stuck,

2512
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 1: and I realized I was like, what would you even

2513
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: have done?

2514
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 2: Man?

2515
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, because my buddy pulled me out

2516
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 1: of there. But I had my phone right here, you know,

2517
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 1: so I would have been fine. But like the second

2518
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 1: time I went back there, when I was with you,

2519
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 1: I left my phone on the dashboard, and you know,

2520
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:18,640
Speaker 1: you kind of all kinds of close calls in your

2521
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 1: life and stuff. Dude, if out of if no one

2522
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:22,600
Speaker 1: knew where you were and I'd got stuck in that

2523
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:24,640
Speaker 1: mudd I don't know that. I had a couple of

2524
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: things I could have tried to get out of that

2525
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: mud hole, but I don't know that I would have

2526
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,759
Speaker 1: gotten out of that mud hole someone trying to explain

2527
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: where I was.

2528
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we were talking through it. You would have

2529
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 2: had to take off your waiters and try and like

2530
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 2: swim out.

2531
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: That'd be the thing I would. Yeah, I guess the

2532
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 1: next thing you try to take off your waiters. There's

2533
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: this place and this kind This is a harrowing story,

2534
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: but you know, you guys have been to the town

2535
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 1: of Anchorage, Alaska.

2536
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 2: I have not.

2537
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 1: There's a hurd stories. Yeah, you know cap'n Cook. You

2538
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 1: ever hear a Captain Cook?

2539
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 2: Does he have a cereal?

2540
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 1: The great Sailor? All the cereal I've.

2541
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 2: Heard of Captain Hook named the cap'n Hook.

2542
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 7: Uh.

2543
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: There's this the city of anchorages on the sink called

2544
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 1: cook Inlet, And there's a arm of cook Inlet called

2545
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 1: turning an arm. And it's just it's got silt like

2546
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 1: it's different kind of muck, but it's got silt like that.

2547
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 1: And uh, but it's also got a tide. And there

2548
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 1: was a story from years ago. It's just so like

2549
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 1: Heroin to think about where a woman walked out on

2550
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: that muck, got stuck in that muck, and the tide

2551
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:31,639
Speaker 1: was coming up, and there's like first responders there trying

2552
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 1: to extricate her from the muck and no jokes, drowned her.

2553
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 2: God, that would be such a scary way to.

2554
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:40,639
Speaker 1: Go out because you're not only stuck in the muck,

2555
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 1: but then the fucking water. Yeah. Yeah, that's just the worst, man,

2556
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'll tell you guys about

2557
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 1: that dude in the ice, you know, ship Like that's haunts.

2558
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 4: Being found frozen, holding herself up, knowing that you're trying

2559
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 4: to get out and just there's nobody around but the

2560
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,560
Speaker 4: lady in Alaska getting stuck, like she's got to be

2561
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 4: so panicked, and then see the first responders and.

2562
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 2: There's got to be a sense of relief like all right, thank.

2563
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 4: God, I'm going to get out here.

2564
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 2: And they go to help her.

2565
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 4: But then they're like, hey, we got to get out here,

2566
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:06,600
Speaker 4: and they have to injurally make the conscious decision that

2567
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 4: we have to walk away from this lady and let

2568
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 4: her die, you.

2569
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: Know, trying to help her breathe through a tube and stuff.

2570
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 1: There's certain like there's certain like get like weird, you know,

2571
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: with outdoor stuff. People spend a lot of time. I've

2572
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 1: written about this fort in various ways. People spend a

2573
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:28,679
Speaker 1: lot of time thinking about, Oh, I'm gonna get attacked

2574
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 1: by mountain lion, I'm gonnaet attacked by a grizzly bear,

2575
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 1: which is great to think about. But like then when

2576
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 1: you're out messing around and doing stuff, you realize all

2577
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 1: these kind of like really mundane dumb ways to have

2578
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 1: something bad happen to. You know, all your mental energy

2579
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 1: is like, you know, me and my body's rise like

2580
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 1: this never ending debate, you know, like should you have

2581
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 1: your pistol or your bear spray? You know, and you

2582
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 1: don't even think about or you just get stuck in

2583
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 1: the mud.

2584
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 2: It out.

2585
01:54:58,200 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 1: The pistols you want?

2586
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 2: You just stuck what's been your closest call.

2587
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 1: The and reviewing it back in my head. There's there's

2588
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 1: a thing that happened with UH in Southeast Alaska. We

2589
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 1: have a little fish shack in a remote area of

2590
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 1: southeast Alaska. You fly into our fish shack and UH

2591
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 1: when I before we were married, before me and my

2592
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 1: wife are married. We we're out one night and it

2593
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 1: was right around between Christmas and New Year's and we're

2594
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 1: out in our boat at night coming back from deer

2595
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 1: hunting and hit a submerged log so hard that it

2596
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: like we're going pretty fast trying to get back before

2597
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 1: it got dark, and hit a submerged log so bad

2598
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 1: that it knocked the engine back up in the boat.

2599
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 1: Like the engine like I am up into the boat,

2600
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the on the tilt, and the bow

2601
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 1: dove down and just scooped up a big old mouthful

2602
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 1: of water in that bow. And we were out in

2603
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 1: this we were out in this big chan on the water.

2604
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: There's at that time of the year the water there's

2605
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 1: upper forties and you can't last anytime in that water,

2606
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 1: you know. And and dude like reviewing it my reviewed

2607
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 1: in my head. We were like, so you never made

2608
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 1: the beach. You've never made the beach.

2609
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 2: I to know that.

2610
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 1: I met this guy there was coast guard up in

2611
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 1: Ketch Camp, which is near there, and I'm talking about

2612
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 1: going to distressed vessel things, you know, and he said,

2613
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: like it's always the same thing, like people's dying the

2614
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: water so fast. And then he said, one time they

2615
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 1: do a call and they get there and there's two

2616
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 1: people that were they had to hit the beach, but

2617
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 1: they're just dead on the beach from hypothermia, you know, yeah,

2618
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 1: and that like that water if they're serious. And I've

2619
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 1: always taken my kids out and we take them out,

2620
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 1: and he realized, like it's it's yeah, you're just playing

2621
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 1: with I don't want to say playing with fire because

2622
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 1: like a lot of people do it. It's just that

2623
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 1: that's a sketchy environment, you know. And I'll and I'll

2624
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 1: bring up to them or bring up to other parents.

2625
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about having kids and raising kids is like

2626
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 1: I like to kind of put them in a what

2627
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 1: I call it like an arena of consequence. Do you

2628
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 1: might like to bring your kids into situations where there's

2629
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 1: like real ramifications to stuff, do you know what I mean?

2630
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 1: Like it's like real, you know, and and I like

2631
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 1: to do that with them. But then sometimes you also

2632
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 1: realize that that if something bad happened, you can imagine

2633
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 1: like the articles about what the idiot you were right,

2634
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, who would ever take little

2635
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 1: children yeah out in some eighteen foot skiff, you know

2636
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 1: what I mean? And you'd be like and people be like, oh,

2637
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 1: Darwin Awards, you know, and all that shit, you know,

2638
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And you'd be like that

2639
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 1: you'd be like that, never you'd be You'd you'd be

2640
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:00,040
Speaker 1: remembered as the idiot.

2641
01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 2: They wanted to put him in an arena of consequences.

2642
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you would. Yeah, they wouldn't remember you as

2643
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 1: like the dad trying.

2644
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 2: To like you learn today.

2645
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, we uh when we were trapping, you were

2646
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 4: talking about just like these these muskrats and hey.

2647
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 2: They used to be forty five dollars. Now you probably

2648
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 2: five dollars for these.

2649
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 4: Beavers, And like you could see the passion in your

2650
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 4: face and your voice about just like just trapping and

2651
01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 4: even said, like, when I was growing up, that's what

2652
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 4: I wanted to be was a trapper, which to me

2653
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 4: growing up in Arizona, I think it is like one

2654
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 4: of the craziest comments.

2655
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 2: I've ever heard of my life. Like I never thought

2656
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 2: I thought that like died in the eighteen trapper.

2657
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 1: But the next time we talk, I'll explain that there

2658
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 1: was a path forward for you in Arizona as a

2659
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 1: Bobcat man. But I could outline it for you. You

2660
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't need to have what you would have needed to

2661
01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 1: have done.

2662
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a Bobcat trapper.

2663
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 4: But I see, like, obviously the Metater brand has become

2664
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 4: you know, every time we come here, oh the last

2665
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 4: two times we come here, like I have. I was

2666
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,840
Speaker 4: in Vegas this past weekend, people are like, Hey, the

2667
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 4: meat Eater stuff you guys did was awesome.

2668
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:11,240
Speaker 2: All my buddies in Cave Creek are like, I can't believe.

2669
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know Cave Creek.

2670
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, shout out the boys. Yeah.

2671
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 4: But you've built such a such an awesome like company

2672
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 4: and everything like that. Like, where did you transition from

2673
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 4: I'm going to be a trapper to you know what,

2674
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to start writing, I'm going to start being

2675
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 4: a conservationist. I'm going to go and oh, I'm gonna

2676
01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 4: start a company called me Eater and made people more

2677
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 4: aware of hunting and fishing and the right way to

2678
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 4: go about these things. When did that big transition happen

2679
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 4: for you?

2680
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 1: When I So, I started trapping monskrats when I was

2681
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 1: ten and was just consumed by it. The reason, one

2682
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 1: of the reasons I liked it was it was kind

2683
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:51,800
Speaker 1: of there's this thing that these two things that would

2684
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 1: work together on it. Like I liked doing it, but

2685
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 1: I was also very interested in remem We're talking about

2686
01:59:57,320 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Boone. I was very interested in these, like these

2687
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:05,480
Speaker 1: guys that we now call long hunters, like the early

2688
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 1: deer skin hunters, and very interested in mountain men and

2689
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 1: these other groups of guys that would go out and

2690
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 1: just supply the skin trade, like fur trappers and hunters

2691
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 1: and shit. I was just fascinated by that stuff. Part

2692
02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:21,720
Speaker 1: of while, I was fascinated by this because I liked

2693
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 1: to do it too, and these were like these these

2694
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 1: were these iconic American figures who made their livings doing that,

2695
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 1: had all these wild ass adventures, right, So I want,

2696
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:35,240
Speaker 1: like when I was little, I wanted to make my

2697
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 1: living doing like as a hunter and trapper. The only

2698
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:44,600
Speaker 1: contemporary version of that would have been being a sort

2699
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:50,240
Speaker 1: of like like generalist trapper who traps for fur and

2700
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:54,080
Speaker 1: whatever else when they're growing up, you know, or getting older.

2701
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 1: And it just became untenable. At the same time, it

2702
02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:00,960
Speaker 1: became untenable because the economics that work out because of

2703
02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:03,839
Speaker 1: this mark, there's a market that like really fluctuates wildly.

2704
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:07,720
Speaker 1: I got interested in writing, and for a while I thought, well,

2705
02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:10,120
Speaker 1: what I'll do is I thought I could supplement my

2706
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 1: income from trapping as writing articles about trapping went to

2707
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 1: college as afterthought, like I don't really know what's the

2708
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:21,000
Speaker 1: test you're supposed to take? When you like, what are

2709
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:25,440
Speaker 1: the acts? Is that what you did? Sat Like, people

2710
02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 1: tell me there's no way this is true.

2711
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 2: I know.

2712
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 1: I went down and took the as VAB. I took

2713
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:32,760
Speaker 1: the military test and thought about going to the army

2714
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 1: for a minute, changed my mind. I don't think I

2715
02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 1: took the college test, like I honestly, god, I don't

2716
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:40,160
Speaker 1: think I remember going down to the community college we

2717
02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:43,480
Speaker 1: had where I grew up. It was a Muskegan County, Michigan.

2718
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 1: I went down to the community college and I wrote

2719
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 1: a check for six hundred bucks for a semester of

2720
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 1: night classes, and that was and I began college like reluctantly,

2721
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:57,200
Speaker 1: really yeah, reluctantly, dude, and I kind of fell in

2722
02:01:57,240 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 1: love with it. But I took two years of night

2723
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 1: classes and just kind of started getting into school and

2724
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 1: like getting more into writing, and then pretty soon I

2725
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:09,480
Speaker 1: was I was very pretty soon I was very focused

2726
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:13,560
Speaker 1: and dedicated on like becoming a writer. Uh, whenever I

2727
02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:16,160
Speaker 1: give professional advice, I always point this out, Like when

2728
02:02:16,160 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 1: I give professional advice now to people, I always tell them,

2729
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:22,120
Speaker 1: Like if I'm talking to kids or whatever, I tell them, like,

2730
02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:24,440
Speaker 1: never have a Plan B. You guys probably know what

2731
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about because you made it a thing that

2732
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:29,600
Speaker 1: was impossible to make it into, Like it's impossible to

2733
02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 1: become to be in the NFL, right, right, So it's like,

2734
02:02:34,680 --> 02:02:40,520
Speaker 1: kill any plan B because it'll be more seductive, it'll

2735
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,560
Speaker 1: be easy, and you'll just you'll do a Plan B.

2736
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:46,200
Speaker 1: If if the Plan B is sitting there, it'll it'll

2737
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:48,800
Speaker 1: be the draw is too strong, like you'll be sucked

2738
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 1: into your aversity strikes.

2739
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 2: You'll look back at that Plan B and be like

2740
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 2: it would be easier just to do that. I can't

2741
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 2: just pivot to this lane.

2742
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2743
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so.

2744
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:59,560
Speaker 1: Even though my plan A was like to be a trapper,

2745
02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 1: my plan is to be a writer. Once I once

2746
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 1: I settled on that idea kind of like that sort

2747
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:08,000
Speaker 1: of an adult notion of what to do is like

2748
02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:12,200
Speaker 1: to be a writer, I was it was I was

2749
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 1: either going to do that or I was gonna die,

2750
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:16,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like there was no other option,

2751
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:20,880
Speaker 1: Like I never entertained other options about it outside of writing. Yeah,

2752
02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 1: I was like I was going to make it work

2753
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 1: as a writer, and and for years, you know, it

2754
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:29,880
Speaker 1: was it's hard for years, right, Like it's it's hard

2755
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: to get there financially, but I don't if you're not married,

2756
02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 1: if you don't have kids who're not married, like it

2757
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:39,600
Speaker 1: doesn't like there's no you're not like Actually, poverty just broke, right,

2758
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:41,680
Speaker 1: it just broke. So you have years of being broke

2759
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:45,800
Speaker 1: as a writer. But I eventually got there, and uh,

2760
02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 1: and just by being that that's what I was going

2761
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:49,120
Speaker 1: to do.

2762
02:03:49,280 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 2: You know what was the one thing that started to

2763
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 2: catch catch traction in the writing world that started to

2764
02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 2: shift like, Okay, now I can start supplement money, making

2765
02:03:58,200 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 2: a little bit more money. Like when did that momentum

2766
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 2: started writing?

2767
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2768
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:06,360
Speaker 2: I you know, the.

2769
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 1: There's there's a meritocracy to it, right, there's there's absolutely

2770
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:16,400
Speaker 1: a meritocracy to it. But there's also like a connections thing.

2771
02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:21,680
Speaker 1: I got lucky. There's this there's this writer he used

2772
02:04:21,680 --> 02:04:25,400
Speaker 1: to be very prolific writer. There's his writer named Ian Fraser.

2773
02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:28,440
Speaker 1: He wrote this phenomenal book about the American great planes

2774
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 1: called Great Plains, where he just spent years cruising around

2775
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:35,120
Speaker 1: on the Great planes. He's really he's really good about culture, writing,

2776
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 1: really good about like writing about landscape and Western American

2777
02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:46,280
Speaker 1: West and Western history. He had this book, so he

2778
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:49,080
Speaker 1: wrote this book, Great planes. I love this book. It

2779
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:51,240
Speaker 1: wound up being the weirdest deal, where like he had

2780
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:55,680
Speaker 1: never gone hunting, and he'd written all about like he'd

2781
02:04:55,720 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 1: written whole books on like the La Cota Sioux and

2782
02:04:58,360 --> 02:05:00,880
Speaker 1: and all this Western stuff. I hadn't hundred for some reason.

2783
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:03,080
Speaker 1: And I got a chance to take him on his

2784
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:06,720
Speaker 1: first deer hunt. And I took him on a canoe

2785
02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:10,520
Speaker 1: trip for deer. He gets a deer, and meanwhile we

2786
02:05:10,600 --> 02:05:12,960
Speaker 1: talk a lot about writing, and he takes some of

2787
02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:15,880
Speaker 1: my stuff and sends it, takes a piece I wrote

2788
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 1: and sends it to Outside magazine. And this is in

2789
02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 1: the very late nineties ninety nine. The piece published in

2790
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 1: two thousand and I had written a piece about that

2791
02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 1: we used to go to the bar. When the bar closed,

2792
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:36,320
Speaker 1: we would go out and sleep inside this dam and

2793
02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 1: then fish whitefish and steel head inside the dam at daybreak,

2794
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 1: you know. And I wrote this whole story about doing this,

2795
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,960
Speaker 1: and he gives it to Outside, his editor, Outside magazine,

2796
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:49,760
Speaker 1: and they bought it for four thousand bucks, which I thought, dude,

2797
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 1: when yeah, I went there was this like I was

2798
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:55,400
Speaker 1: living in Missoula, Montana when I got that four thousand bucks.

2799
02:05:55,440 --> 02:05:57,600
Speaker 1: I remember, I bought a topper for my truck which

2800
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:00,920
Speaker 1: is like eight hundred bucks, and went out to Hot Springs,

2801
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:04,240
Speaker 1: Montana and basically just hold up at Hot Springs, Montana

2802
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:08,400
Speaker 1: in a like room for a couple of days to

2803
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 1: try to just process the like the windfall.

2804
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the amount of money.

2805
02:06:16,640 --> 02:06:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2806
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:17,800
Speaker 2: Man.

2807
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:21,320
Speaker 1: After that, it's like I got it, I got the topper,

2808
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:23,920
Speaker 1: I got a topper. I'm gonna blow a couple more

2809
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:27,400
Speaker 1: hundred here at the Hot Springs Hotel. Now what's my

2810
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:30,320
Speaker 1: path forward? And uh yeah, that was it. It was

2811
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 1: just like it was. I remember that dude telling me

2812
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:35,720
Speaker 1: in the in the writing world and everything, it's changed

2813
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:37,760
Speaker 1: so much, Like I'm this is an old ass story, right,

2814
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:42,600
Speaker 1: this is the year two thousand. But him saying like

2815
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:47,080
Speaker 1: he said, like as a writer, he goes, somehow you

2816
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 1: just wind up with like a stamp of approval on

2817
02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:51,600
Speaker 1: your head, and he goes, I don't understand it, but

2818
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:54,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you get it, and you got it.

2819
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:58,160
Speaker 1: You get like the stamp of approval. And so and

2820
02:06:58,360 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 1: in those days, there's one hundred way to do it.

2821
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 1: But in those days there were certain magazines that once

2822
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 1: you would publish in those magazines, it was like your

2823
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:08,440
Speaker 1: stamp of approval, and then all of a sudden people

2824
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:11,880
Speaker 1: would like you could sell a book. Right. It's just

2825
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:13,440
Speaker 1: like also in the whole world opened up to you

2826
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, TV people call either

2827
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:20,960
Speaker 1: about development, you know, maybe they want to license something

2828
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 1: you wrote, or get an option on shit you wrote.

2829
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just all of a sudden, like

2830
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:27,280
Speaker 1: you struggle, struggle, struggle, struggle, then all of a sudden,

2831
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:32,600
Speaker 1: like some imperceptible piece of thing happens, and it's in

2832
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 1: all of sudden just life becomes easy.

2833
02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2834
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 1: And so he told me that would happen, you know, yeah,

2835
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 1: Or he told me that's you just get You need

2836
02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:41,920
Speaker 1: to get the stamp of approval. You'll know when you

2837
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 1: got it.

2838
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was true. Man, Outside, our magazine was a stamp.

2839
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 1: Huh, Yeah, that magazine and I wound up being on

2840
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 1: the mast headed Outside. I wrote. I wrote a lot

2841
02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:53,480
Speaker 1: of articles for Outside that wrote. I wrote all over place.

2842
02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:57,000
Speaker 1: I wrote like I did magazine. I did magazine bits everywhere.

2843
02:07:57,040 --> 02:08:00,400
Speaker 1: I did everybody. I wrote all the tons of mags, sines,

2844
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:02,840
Speaker 1: and then to start doing books, you know, and then

2845
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:05,640
Speaker 1: and then from books got in from books got into

2846
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:09,400
Speaker 1: doing television television kind of got into doing podcasts.

2847
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:12,640
Speaker 2: And then were you excited about television because you were

2848
02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:15,040
Speaker 2: talking about you know, plan A was trapper, Plan B

2849
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:18,600
Speaker 2: was writer. Then writer becomes plan A. When TV starts

2850
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 2: to come in the equation, that's like another opportunity, you know,

2851
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 2: getting in front of the camera.

2852
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:26,920
Speaker 1: No, not in not in and of itself at all.

2853
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 1: I felt like it was a I felt TV was

2854
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:34,880
Speaker 1: a way to I felt TV was a way to

2855
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:38,520
Speaker 1: kind of round everything out with with books, Like I

2856
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:41,440
Speaker 1: thought it would be a way to find audience and

2857
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:45,120
Speaker 1: find readers, you know. Liked that the primary Like, at

2858
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:47,360
Speaker 1: any point in time, if someone said, if at any

2859
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:48,840
Speaker 1: point in time, someone came to me and said, hey,

2860
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:54,120
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta choose, like you can you can host,

2861
02:08:55,120 --> 02:09:00,120
Speaker 1: TV host, or or you can write anytime, I I

2862
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 1: would never, without a doubt, I would always go toward writing, always, always,

2863
02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:08,760
Speaker 1: if if I ever had to make the decision, but

2864
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:11,120
Speaker 1: I always just looked at it like part of a thing,

2865
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 1: you know what I said that the I always looked

2866
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 1: at it as like part of being a writer was

2867
02:09:15,120 --> 02:09:18,839
Speaker 1: doing that kind of stuff. Remember I said, the industry

2868
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 1: changes so much over time and and being back and

2869
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:25,880
Speaker 1: like when I was starting out that magazines were a

2870
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:27,840
Speaker 1: good way to come in, there's one hundred ways to

2871
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:29,640
Speaker 1: come in. I mean, you guys are media. You guys

2872
02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 1: are like media professionals came out of athletics, right like that,

2873
02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:39,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of that path to media, and it's

2874
02:09:39,480 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 1: it's everything changes so much, like you couldn't do it

2875
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 1: the way I did it anymore. But what became obvious

2876
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:47,720
Speaker 1: to me over time is it became obviously over time

2877
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:50,840
Speaker 1: that you had to learn you had to think of

2878
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 1: like your world as a set of ideas, right like

2879
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 1: it's and the set of ideas lives, and it's this

2880
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:03,200
Speaker 1: thing and you can hold, like you can hold this

2881
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:07,640
Speaker 1: set of ideas and like, imagine that there's all these

2882
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:12,840
Speaker 1: sort of conveyor belts moving away from you, do you

2883
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:16,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And you could have this thing

2884
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,040
Speaker 1: in your hand, it's your set of ideas and you

2885
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:20,920
Speaker 1: can just randomly place them on these conveyor belts that

2886
02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:24,320
Speaker 1: move away from you. When I started out, it was

2887
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:26,240
Speaker 1: like there was only one and it was like it

2888
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:29,600
Speaker 1: was writing for publication, you know, and so every idea

2889
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:33,800
Speaker 1: was placed on that thing, on that one belt, right.

2890
02:10:34,160 --> 02:10:36,839
Speaker 1: But now I imagine that it's this array of belts

2891
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:42,600
Speaker 1: and it's like it's podcast material, it's it's television stuff.

2892
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:43,120
Speaker 2: You know.

2893
02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:46,720
Speaker 1: I've worked a little bit, I've worked on some documentary stuff, right,

2894
02:10:47,640 --> 02:10:52,040
Speaker 1: And it's instead of thinking that I'm doing all these

2895
02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:58,200
Speaker 1: different things, I'm still dealing with this contained object, which

2896
02:10:58,280 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 1: is my ideas. Like the things I can about and

2897
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:05,240
Speaker 1: where I put them isn't important to me, right, It's

2898
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:06,240
Speaker 1: just important.

2899
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:06,040
Speaker 2: To me that.

2900
02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like this remains like my fucking thing, do

2901
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:12,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I don't really care

2902
02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:14,560
Speaker 1: about all that shit. That's kind of how I've come

2903
02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 1: to think.

2904
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:18,840
Speaker 4: It necessarily evil to get your idea, this thing out

2905
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 4: to more masses so they can enjoy and understanding more.

2906
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And and I went to kind of like

2907
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:27,080
Speaker 1: I went to at what at the time was a

2908
02:11:28,160 --> 02:11:31,360
Speaker 1: I got into a pretty like a prestigious writing program

2909
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:36,400
Speaker 1: and uh at University of Montana. And at that time, man,

2910
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:40,600
Speaker 1: it was like with the Internet coming, people were deathly

2911
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:43,520
Speaker 1: afraid of the Internet. Man, people were deathly afraid of

2912
02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:47,400
Speaker 1: like every thought that like that you were this that

2913
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:53,400
Speaker 1: that like writing books was the intellectual purity and everything

2914
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:57,120
Speaker 1: else was less than you know, and and everyone was real.

2915
02:11:57,480 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 1: You know, you could you could get real snobbish about

2916
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:00,440
Speaker 1: all that stuff.

2917
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:02,400
Speaker 2: But I just you never fell in that trap.

2918
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:03,120
Speaker 6: Well I did.

2919
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:03,840
Speaker 1: I fell out.

2920
02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:04,280
Speaker 2: I could.

2921
02:12:04,440 --> 02:12:04,960
Speaker 6: I could see it.

2922
02:12:05,320 --> 02:12:07,600
Speaker 2: I could see it the internet coming Like these individuals

2923
02:12:07,640 --> 02:12:14,400
Speaker 2: don't understand the art depend to paper community, the community

2924
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:16,160
Speaker 2: that you're in. If they're kind of frowning upon it,

2925
02:12:16,280 --> 02:12:18,640
Speaker 2: you have this vulnerability of like seeing it the way

2926
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:21,400
Speaker 2: you're seeing it, as like these are just vessels that

2927
02:12:21,480 --> 02:12:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm able to get this idea out. They're not necessarily

2928
02:12:24,040 --> 02:12:25,680
Speaker 2: seeing that. But also you feel the pressure of like

2929
02:12:26,160 --> 02:12:27,800
Speaker 2: if I do do this, you know the boys are

2930
02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:30,600
Speaker 2: going to be, oh yeah, this first time he had

2931
02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:31,480
Speaker 2: an article on the internet.

2932
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:33,160
Speaker 4: You know, he went back into that little group and

2933
02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:36,440
Speaker 4: they're like, Steve, you see Steve's on the internet.

2934
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:41,040
Speaker 1: Sold out? Yeah, you did something the internet stupid?

2935
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 4: Is that like in the environments in the world you live,

2936
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:45,600
Speaker 4: it is like a consistent where I feel like in

2937
02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:47,640
Speaker 4: the hunting world, there's like a lot of like purity

2938
02:12:47,680 --> 02:12:49,680
Speaker 4: about it, Like there's like a I don't know if

2939
02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:52,120
Speaker 4: it's a clickish group, but like people have like their

2940
02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:54,000
Speaker 4: ways they want to do things, and there's a pure

2941
02:12:54,040 --> 02:12:56,560
Speaker 4: way to do something as opposed to you know, maybe

2942
02:12:56,680 --> 02:12:58,560
Speaker 4: just the regular hunter who goes in a tree standing

2943
02:12:58,720 --> 02:13:00,680
Speaker 4: just takes the just takes the rat or something like that.

2944
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 4: I feel like you've lived in those types of communities most,

2945
02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:04,360
Speaker 4: if not all your life.

2946
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:08,320
Speaker 1: Dude. It's like, I'm sure everything is. I'm sure everything is.

2947
02:13:11,240 --> 02:13:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure every discipline, community, whatever. There's like intense tribalism.

2948
02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:22,240
Speaker 1: There's like there's a tribalism to hunting. Uh, it's almost comical.

2949
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:25,480
Speaker 2: You know.

2950
02:13:25,520 --> 02:13:29,560
Speaker 1: What I used to observe is like, so, so I

2951
02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:32,800
Speaker 1: grew up in a you know, I grew up in

2952
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:36,720
Speaker 1: a Christian household in a Christian community, and and if

2953
02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:40,840
Speaker 1: you had gone like like, people would be I remember,

2954
02:13:40,880 --> 02:13:43,880
Speaker 1: people would be they'd feel threatened by where I was

2955
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:47,480
Speaker 1: growing up. People might be feeling threatened by Latter day Saints, right,

2956
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:55,640
Speaker 1: threatened by Mormonism. And because it was like similar but

2957
02:13:56,000 --> 02:13:58,840
Speaker 1: little different, right, and you look at me like, why

2958
02:13:58,840 --> 02:14:01,760
Speaker 1: aren't you guys worried about like devil worshippers. That seems

2959
02:14:01,840 --> 02:14:04,800
Speaker 1: like it would be like a real enemy, you know,

2960
02:14:04,880 --> 02:14:06,640
Speaker 1: but you're like, well, yeah, never, no one pays attention

2961
02:14:06,640 --> 02:14:08,880
Speaker 1: to that. We're looking at We're worried about the things

2962
02:14:08,920 --> 02:14:12,520
Speaker 1: that are just a little different. And then and like

2963
02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:19,400
Speaker 1: the tribalism of hunting is that you it's it's that yeah,

2964
02:14:19,600 --> 02:14:23,280
Speaker 1: Like there's like archery guys that are you know, look

2965
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:26,200
Speaker 1: down on rifle guys. There's guys that hunt over bait.

2966
02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:29,000
Speaker 1: There's guys that don't use bait, and look down on

2967
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:35,840
Speaker 1: guys that hunt over bait. Just whatever, you know, just

2968
02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:36,760
Speaker 1: guys that use a knife.

2969
02:14:37,240 --> 02:14:38,880
Speaker 2: You gotta kiss with your bare hands.

2970
02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:42,120
Speaker 1: That's exactly track it down. What it winds up being, like,

2971
02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:44,760
Speaker 1: the more I've been around the country and like met

2972
02:14:44,800 --> 02:14:46,560
Speaker 1: so many people and got to go to so many places,

2973
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:49,760
Speaker 1: it winds up being that the whatever you grew up around,

2974
02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:55,760
Speaker 1: whatever is normal to you from growing up around that's right, right, yeah,

2975
02:14:55,840 --> 02:15:00,600
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and everyone else is everyone else is like

2976
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:03,440
Speaker 1: not right, yeah, tribal.

2977
02:15:04,840 --> 02:15:08,080
Speaker 4: I posted a video yesterday on Twitter or x of

2978
02:15:08,360 --> 02:15:11,040
Speaker 4: just like the landscape, me and Garrett looking over like

2979
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:13,240
Speaker 4: it was beautiful, but I had the rifle and someone's like,

2980
02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:14,640
Speaker 4: be a real man and use a bow.

2981
02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:17,240
Speaker 2: That was one of the first comments. I was thinking,

2982
02:15:18,160 --> 02:15:19,840
Speaker 2: I've never even shot at bow, like, but in my

2983
02:15:19,880 --> 02:15:23,000
Speaker 2: head of I I guess I'm not real. Yeah, failed,

2984
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:24,360
Speaker 2: this's opinion of hunting.

2985
02:15:24,440 --> 02:15:26,680
Speaker 1: Well, next time you come out, we'll shoot bows. I

2986
02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:28,240
Speaker 1: love shooting bows. But there's a rumor.

2987
02:15:28,280 --> 02:15:29,800
Speaker 4: There's a rumor going around that we're hunting a bear

2988
02:15:29,880 --> 02:15:30,280
Speaker 4: next time.

2989
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:33,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad, you know.

2990
02:15:33,160 --> 02:15:34,920
Speaker 4: I'm glad you're very aware that we're hunting a bear

2991
02:15:35,040 --> 02:15:38,840
Speaker 4: next time. And there's something about the apex predator that

2992
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:41,200
Speaker 4: I'm interested in the thought that if I don't kill it,

2993
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:46,920
Speaker 4: it'll kill me. I knew this would happen. I talked

2994
02:15:47,080 --> 02:15:52,040
Speaker 4: to kill bear fair but I could be right. Maybe

2995
02:15:52,040 --> 02:15:55,040
Speaker 4: a couple of cubs walk by, Yeah, no doubt, but

2996
02:15:55,160 --> 02:15:55,560
Speaker 4: black bear.

2997
02:15:55,600 --> 02:15:57,480
Speaker 1: Is not going to kill me. Man. Black beards don't

2998
02:15:57,520 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 1: like here's the thing they do. So I think that

2999
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:04,560
Speaker 1: you have black I think there's like black bear hunting

3000
02:16:04,640 --> 02:16:13,040
Speaker 1: seasons and close thirty states now, okay, most like by far,

3001
02:16:14,200 --> 02:16:19,320
Speaker 1: most Americans live within like a forty five minute drive

3002
02:16:19,400 --> 02:16:24,920
Speaker 1: of a black bear, okay, or blackberries. Everywhere you take

3003
02:16:24,920 --> 02:16:27,200
Speaker 1: a state like here, it's like we might have ten

3004
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:33,280
Speaker 1: thousand black bears in this state. No one gets killed

3005
02:16:33,320 --> 02:16:36,160
Speaker 1: by a black bear. Okay, ten thousand black bears, and

3006
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:37,800
Speaker 1: I can't think of the last time someone in the

3007
02:16:37,879 --> 02:16:39,240
Speaker 1: state's been killed by a black bear.

3008
02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:40,720
Speaker 2: They still get number.

3009
02:16:40,720 --> 02:16:44,360
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you get a thousand grizzly bears and they're killing

3010
02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:48,039
Speaker 1: a couple people a year. It's just a different bear, man,

3011
02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:51,240
Speaker 1: They're like a different bear with a different groove, and

3012
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:55,760
Speaker 1: they just got a different worldview. And like, even then,

3013
02:16:55,840 --> 02:16:58,160
Speaker 1: the odds are small, but there's like an elite group

3014
02:16:58,280 --> 02:17:00,760
Speaker 1: of there's like an elite group of plays out there

3015
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:04,960
Speaker 1: that are like very high risk individuals. I'm getting mix

3016
02:17:05,080 --> 02:17:08,400
Speaker 1: ups with grizzly bears and it's a real it's a

3017
02:17:08,480 --> 02:17:11,959
Speaker 1: real thing. Like I've had like close calls with them,

3018
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:16,160
Speaker 1: little skirmishes. It's a different bear.

3019
02:17:17,520 --> 02:17:19,800
Speaker 2: When you were having your mix your mix ups with

3020
02:17:19,879 --> 02:17:22,880
Speaker 2: the grizzlies, like was there's some fears starting to set in.

3021
02:17:23,160 --> 02:17:26,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's they're intimidating, man, They're intimidating. It's a

3022
02:17:26,800 --> 02:17:28,640
Speaker 1: real bear. I mean, I love them to death. I

3023
02:17:28,760 --> 02:17:32,680
Speaker 1: love them to death, but yeah, it's like you know

3024
02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:35,760
Speaker 1: those bears, those bears play for keeps man like in

3025
02:17:35,879 --> 02:17:38,600
Speaker 1: this state. You know, every year people get people get

3026
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:42,080
Speaker 1: tore up by one or two people in the lower

3027
02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:44,120
Speaker 1: forty eight get killed by them. And there's not that many.

3028
02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:47,880
Speaker 1: You got grizzly bears in three states well now, and

3029
02:17:47,920 --> 02:17:49,920
Speaker 1: then you'll have one in northern Washington. But you got

3030
02:17:49,959 --> 02:17:53,640
Speaker 1: a small number of bears that that do that do

3031
02:17:53,800 --> 02:17:56,200
Speaker 1: a lot of mixing it up with people, and they're

3032
02:17:56,480 --> 02:17:59,840
Speaker 1: they just have a different attitude, you know, like a

3033
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:03,480
Speaker 1: black bear. When you scare a black bear, intimidate a

3034
02:18:03,520 --> 02:18:07,080
Speaker 1: black bear, the black bear in his mind is like

3035
02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:10,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna get clear. He's gonna get clear of the

3036
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:16,440
Speaker 1: thing a grizzly like usually as well, usually as well,

3037
02:18:17,240 --> 02:18:19,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna his impulse is gonna be to get clear

3038
02:18:19,640 --> 02:18:23,080
Speaker 1: of it. But ten percent of the time whatever, some

3039
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:27,279
Speaker 1: percentage of the time, it's not fifty, it's less than fifty.

3040
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:31,840
Speaker 1: Is when he gets scared, his impulse is to just

3041
02:18:32,040 --> 02:18:35,600
Speaker 1: like crush what scared him. God and black bears don't

3042
02:18:35,640 --> 02:18:38,440
Speaker 1: have and it's like it's getting like nine times out

3043
02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:40,080
Speaker 1: of ten whatever, it is, like nine times out of

3044
02:18:40,160 --> 02:18:42,360
Speaker 1: ten or eight times out of ten, he's gonna peace out.

3045
02:18:43,360 --> 02:18:47,080
Speaker 1: But then you get like the right mix up, the

3046
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:50,280
Speaker 1: right proximity, he's in the right mood whatever, and you

3047
02:18:50,560 --> 02:18:51,680
Speaker 1: like scare him.

3048
02:18:53,120 --> 02:18:53,240
Speaker 2: You know.

3049
02:18:53,360 --> 02:18:55,440
Speaker 1: The difference is picture you go around to your buddies

3050
02:18:56,760 --> 02:19:00,600
Speaker 1: and you hide around a corner in a house, right,

3051
02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:03,520
Speaker 1: and your buddy comes in the door, Like you hide

3052
02:19:03,520 --> 02:19:05,000
Speaker 1: in your body's house and your body comes in the

3053
02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:08,320
Speaker 1: door and you go, ah to scare them. What percentage

3054
02:19:08,320 --> 02:19:12,720
Speaker 1: of bodies are gonna jump back and go? But there's

3055
02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:15,320
Speaker 1: gonna be that one that just boom? Do you know

3056
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:15,680
Speaker 1: what I mean?

3057
02:19:15,959 --> 02:19:19,120
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a good analogy, Like I don't know who

3058
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:21,480
Speaker 13: you know, Like, there's gonna be that one that just

3059
02:19:22,640 --> 02:19:25,240
Speaker 13: the size of smoke, that has the has the sort

3060
02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:27,880
Speaker 13: of the sort of these.

3061
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:33,000
Speaker 2: I fear. I know I'm the jump back guy. Oh

3062
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:34,720
Speaker 2: I'm an jumpy to you.

3063
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:37,240
Speaker 1: Got I'm like, as I'm gonna jump back.

3064
02:19:40,120 --> 02:19:43,440
Speaker 2: A striker. Maybe I just hold you in high regard interaction.

3065
02:19:43,480 --> 02:19:44,400
Speaker 6: I don't think, I know.

3066
02:19:44,680 --> 02:19:46,440
Speaker 1: Try it well, don't try because that sounds scary.

3067
02:19:46,520 --> 02:19:48,160
Speaker 2: It sounds like if I broke in your house, that'd

3068
02:19:48,160 --> 02:19:48,800
Speaker 2: be a world of heart.

3069
02:19:49,360 --> 02:19:51,240
Speaker 1: If I had a minute to assass then I would

3070
02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:53,080
Speaker 1: then take step just just.

3071
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:55,000
Speaker 2: Six seven shadow in the corner of your house.

3072
02:19:56,080 --> 02:19:56,680
Speaker 1: I'll be done.

3073
02:19:57,000 --> 02:19:58,200
Speaker 2: What about what about polar bear?

3074
02:19:58,240 --> 02:20:00,000
Speaker 4: I know I don't want to say this about bear fit,

3075
02:20:00,160 --> 02:20:04,279
Speaker 4: but like something about something about like cougars and bears

3076
02:20:04,400 --> 02:20:06,400
Speaker 4: and all that, because I'm, like I said, Arizona, like,

3077
02:20:06,520 --> 02:20:10,440
Speaker 4: I'm we got avelina and heel monsters and snakes, but

3078
02:20:10,520 --> 02:20:13,120
Speaker 4: there's no like giant predators. And so I walk out

3079
02:20:13,160 --> 02:20:13,800
Speaker 4: in the woods around here.

3080
02:20:14,120 --> 02:20:16,039
Speaker 1: Black bears in line mountains, well, those are up.

3081
02:20:16,040 --> 02:20:18,040
Speaker 2: North if they're anywhere, and they're not going to be

3082
02:20:18,080 --> 02:20:19,720
Speaker 2: down in Keith crekertt like the desert.

3083
02:20:19,480 --> 02:20:23,400
Speaker 1: And you know you're you're overlooking one because uh usually

3084
02:20:24,160 --> 02:20:29,640
Speaker 1: there's there's usually a jaguar in Arizona.

3085
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:30,199
Speaker 2: A singular jaguar.

3086
02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:36,880
Speaker 4: Dude, I'll take my like I just I've never I

3087
02:20:36,959 --> 02:20:38,840
Speaker 4: went to the University of Michigan, and the first time

3088
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:42,120
Speaker 4: I get there, I see all these trees and I

3089
02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:44,840
Speaker 4: just think there's a bear and every bunch of those trees.

3090
02:20:45,080 --> 02:20:46,960
Speaker 4: Like that's how dumb I am. And so then I

3091
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:48,720
Speaker 4: come out here, I'm like, we're for sure in bear

3092
02:20:48,760 --> 02:20:50,920
Speaker 4: country now we gotta be. So then my wife is

3093
02:20:50,959 --> 02:20:53,160
Speaker 4: from British Columbia and she they're always talking about bears.

3094
02:20:53,440 --> 02:20:56,360
Speaker 4: She knows bears they're aware the whole. Like if it's

3095
02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:57,960
Speaker 4: a if it's a black bear, get big. If it's

3096
02:20:58,000 --> 02:20:59,680
Speaker 4: a brown bear, like lay down, and then if it's

3097
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:01,200
Speaker 4: a wipe, it's like that you might as well do.

3098
02:21:01,240 --> 02:21:02,760
Speaker 2: It's over. It's over for you.

3099
02:21:03,959 --> 02:21:07,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, but polar bears, is that just a you

3100
02:21:07,440 --> 02:21:09,160
Speaker 4: see one of those things, it's it's it's game.

3101
02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:10,000
Speaker 2: Man, like I have.

3102
02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:14,040
Speaker 1: First off, I'm very comfortable talking about black bears and

3103
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:17,560
Speaker 1: grizzly bears. Yeah, I have zero polar bear experience. I

3104
02:21:17,640 --> 02:21:23,360
Speaker 1: can tell you though that numerically they are. Numerically they

3105
02:21:23,440 --> 02:21:29,240
Speaker 1: are a high, high level of aggression. But I'm I'm

3106
02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:32,680
Speaker 1: way over my waiters talking about talking about you're in

3107
02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:32,880
Speaker 1: the mud.

3108
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:33,880
Speaker 2: I'm not.

3109
02:21:34,360 --> 02:21:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm not a polar bear man.

3110
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:39,959
Speaker 2: Polar bears would be. I mean those things are massive, massive, terrifying. Yeah,

3111
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:41,680
Speaker 2: we can get off the bear stuff. What would you got?

3112
02:21:43,080 --> 02:21:44,640
Speaker 1: You talk about bears like want? I just can't talk

3113
02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:45,760
Speaker 1: about polar bears with any level.

3114
02:21:46,440 --> 02:21:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, FA, I was gonna ask, You've obviously built an

3115
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:52,040
Speaker 2: incredible company with meat Eater. You have meat Eater, you

3116
02:21:52,120 --> 02:21:53,800
Speaker 2: have first light, Like every time we come out of here.

3117
02:21:53,800 --> 02:21:55,880
Speaker 2: I feel like we learned something new, like one hundred

3118
02:21:55,879 --> 02:22:00,440
Speaker 2: and fifty employees, Like, how did you build this company

3119
02:22:00,480 --> 02:22:03,080
Speaker 2: into what it is today? Because it came through writing,

3120
02:22:03,240 --> 02:22:05,840
Speaker 2: you get on television, there has to be a shift

3121
02:22:05,959 --> 02:22:08,200
Speaker 2: in your mind mentally to where it's like, hey, I

3122
02:22:08,360 --> 02:22:10,680
Speaker 2: have the I could have the ability to build something

3123
02:22:10,720 --> 02:22:13,760
Speaker 2: of my own because I think that's incredible. It is

3124
02:22:13,840 --> 02:22:15,040
Speaker 2: incredible what you've built with me.

3125
02:22:15,280 --> 02:22:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such a it's such a convoluted, complicated story,

3126
02:22:18,200 --> 02:22:23,120
Speaker 1: and it's hardly like, it's hardly all. It's just not like,

3127
02:22:23,480 --> 02:22:27,960
Speaker 1: it's not this doings of a it's not the doings

3128
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:30,520
Speaker 1: of a single person at all. But I had eventually,

3129
02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:36,240
Speaker 1: do you guys remember, of course you do all the

3130
02:22:36,280 --> 02:22:40,199
Speaker 1: Anthony Bourdain shows over the years. Okay, so what happened

3131
02:22:40,360 --> 02:22:46,119
Speaker 1: was the production company that made all that Bourdain stuff.

3132
02:22:46,360 --> 02:22:51,320
Speaker 1: It was zero point zero production. Chris and Lydia Tonauglia

3133
02:22:51,879 --> 02:22:55,080
Speaker 1: had zero point zero production and they did like Cook's Tour,

3134
02:22:55,320 --> 02:22:59,240
Speaker 1: which was Bordain's first show. They did no reservations, they

3135
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:04,280
Speaker 1: did parts on and they produced all that material. I'm

3136
02:23:04,360 --> 02:23:06,040
Speaker 1: only bringing that up because it's a way to kind

3137
02:23:06,080 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 1: of understand the group of people on top about I

3138
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:15,080
Speaker 1: fell in with ZPZ on some like development projects to

3139
02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:17,520
Speaker 1: like develop some of the work, to some of my

3140
02:23:17,640 --> 02:23:24,320
Speaker 1: writing into TV material, and we started making me Eater

3141
02:23:24,440 --> 02:23:26,320
Speaker 1: the show. Like we just it was like me there

3142
02:23:26,400 --> 02:23:29,480
Speaker 1: was a TV show that I was making with zero

3143
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:34,000
Speaker 1: point zero production. I named that because I just had

3144
02:23:34,040 --> 02:23:36,840
Speaker 1: a new kid, my first kid was born, and I

3145
02:23:36,879 --> 02:23:39,040
Speaker 1: would read in books about animals, like I'm manly just

3146
02:23:39,080 --> 02:23:41,520
Speaker 1: reading books about animals and be reading like books about

3147
02:23:41,560 --> 02:23:43,800
Speaker 1: dinosaurs and shit, you know, and it'd be like this

3148
02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:46,360
Speaker 1: ferocious me eater the t rex. So I just had

3149
02:23:46,400 --> 02:23:49,080
Speaker 1: that word in my head. And we started this show

3150
02:23:50,440 --> 02:23:52,480
Speaker 1: and it was like no intention of being anything other

3151
02:23:52,560 --> 02:23:55,000
Speaker 1: than a show, and we would we'd make the show,

3152
02:23:55,080 --> 02:23:57,720
Speaker 1: and we didn't sell it. We just licensed it. So

3153
02:23:57,920 --> 02:24:03,800
Speaker 1: we licensed it to Sportsman Channel, we licensed it for

3154
02:24:04,000 --> 02:24:06,320
Speaker 1: we licensed it to Netflix for a bunch of seasons,

3155
02:24:06,360 --> 02:24:11,800
Speaker 1: and we just owned it. If someone had bought it,

3156
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:14,000
Speaker 1: we would have sold it to them, Okay. So it

3157
02:24:14,080 --> 02:24:17,520
Speaker 1: was just it was like lucky that we if the

3158
02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:19,120
Speaker 1: right deal would have come along, we would have just

3159
02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:20,840
Speaker 1: sold they. We would have sold it because that's how

3160
02:24:20,879 --> 02:24:24,280
Speaker 1: TV's always made. Like when a network, a stream or whatever.

3161
02:24:24,360 --> 02:24:26,959
Speaker 1: When they buy a project, it's usually today that they

3162
02:24:27,080 --> 02:24:31,440
Speaker 1: take possession of the IP. You produce it for them,

3163
02:24:31,520 --> 02:24:32,080
Speaker 1: but they own it.

3164
02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:33,680
Speaker 2: We just.

3165
02:24:35,240 --> 02:24:38,360
Speaker 1: Because we we just got lucky. We got lucky and

3166
02:24:38,440 --> 02:24:41,400
Speaker 1: didn't originally sell it to anyone. We only ever made

3167
02:24:41,480 --> 02:24:45,440
Speaker 1: licensing deals and it was almost like accidental, right. But

3168
02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:48,280
Speaker 1: what that enabled is being that we owned this whole

3169
02:24:48,920 --> 02:24:52,560
Speaker 1: We want to owning the like a seed to this

3170
02:24:52,680 --> 02:24:56,400
Speaker 1: whole sort of universe of hunting and fishing content and

3171
02:24:56,680 --> 02:25:01,920
Speaker 1: whatnot over time, and we got an opportunity to take

3172
02:25:02,680 --> 02:25:09,800
Speaker 1: an investment that would let us spin that we're approach

3173
02:25:09,840 --> 02:25:12,119
Speaker 1: about taking an investment that would let us spin media

3174
02:25:12,360 --> 02:25:16,920
Speaker 1: out outside of the zero point zero cradle, to spin

3175
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:19,720
Speaker 1: it out and like hire our own people. A lot

3176
02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:21,640
Speaker 1: of the guys that worked at a lot of the

3177
02:25:21,680 --> 02:25:24,320
Speaker 1: guys that worked on the show that I did all

3178
02:25:24,440 --> 02:25:26,280
Speaker 1: lived here in bos of Montana. It was just like

3179
02:25:26,840 --> 02:25:28,880
Speaker 1: a very It was a very small group of people

3180
02:25:29,160 --> 02:25:32,800
Speaker 1: and just almost like weirdly coincidentally, we're all centered around here.

3181
02:25:32,920 --> 02:25:36,920
Speaker 1: I had lived here before they were living here. So

3182
02:25:37,040 --> 02:25:39,160
Speaker 1: when we found when we found a way to like

3183
02:25:39,280 --> 02:25:42,280
Speaker 1: spin media off and make me eater its own entity.

3184
02:25:42,959 --> 02:25:47,039
Speaker 1: We just like moved it here and then we're able

3185
02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:51,000
Speaker 1: to take like we're able to take investment to buy

3186
02:25:51,160 --> 02:25:55,119
Speaker 1: gear companies, and we had had a sponsor like first

3187
02:25:55,200 --> 02:25:57,680
Speaker 1: Light was a sponsor of ours going way back, like

3188
02:25:57,800 --> 02:26:01,320
Speaker 1: the founders were one of our first sponsors. We eventually

3189
02:26:01,360 --> 02:26:02,800
Speaker 1: got to a point where we were able to like

3190
02:26:03,360 --> 02:26:08,840
Speaker 1: to buy first Light and then other gear companies. Fahf Gear,

3191
02:26:09,080 --> 02:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Phelps Game Calls, Dave Smith Decoy's we're able to like

3192
02:26:13,160 --> 02:26:19,560
Speaker 1: to grow into this commerce brand. But my I'm like

3193
02:26:19,680 --> 02:26:22,120
Speaker 1: aware of and know what's going on and you know,

3194
02:26:22,320 --> 02:26:25,240
Speaker 1: in all aspects of it. But my day in day

3195
02:26:25,320 --> 02:26:30,120
Speaker 1: out is like our our media brand, right, so we

3196
02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:32,560
Speaker 1: look at it. We kind of look at our world

3197
02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:36,080
Speaker 1: as being we have our our commerce business and our

3198
02:26:36,400 --> 02:26:40,879
Speaker 1: and our content business. And I worked day in day out,

3199
02:26:40,959 --> 02:26:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm like in the content business. But it was just

3200
02:26:44,720 --> 02:26:46,400
Speaker 1: but it's like it's not like a thing I did.

3201
02:26:49,480 --> 02:26:51,560
Speaker 1: I didn't have like a roadmap in my head for it.

3202
02:26:52,080 --> 02:26:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't feel if you think about like your professional life,

3203
02:26:57,000 --> 02:26:59,879
Speaker 1: maybe you guys have found it differently. I've never had

3204
02:27:00,200 --> 02:27:02,600
Speaker 1: be that that. I've never been in a situation where

3205
02:27:02,600 --> 02:27:04,800
Speaker 1: I felt like I arrived in a at a tee

3206
02:27:05,360 --> 02:27:08,280
Speaker 1: in a road do you know what I mean, like

3207
02:27:08,400 --> 02:27:11,879
Speaker 1: a clean tea where you have to decide like you're

3208
02:27:11,879 --> 02:27:15,360
Speaker 1: gonna turn ninety degrees right or you're gonna turn ninety

3209
02:27:15,400 --> 02:27:21,039
Speaker 1: degrees left. I've never hit that professionally. Every junction I've

3210
02:27:21,160 --> 02:27:22,440
Speaker 1: ever come to has.

3211
02:27:22,400 --> 02:27:23,000
Speaker 11: Been like.

3212
02:27:24,800 --> 02:27:31,360
Speaker 1: Like an angle that's the obvious angle, or there's maybe

3213
02:27:31,480 --> 02:27:33,800
Speaker 1: like some little shitty dirt road you could take off

3214
02:27:34,120 --> 02:27:37,120
Speaker 1: to the side, and I've always just like been like, well,

3215
02:27:37,160 --> 02:27:38,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay on the one that seems the most

3216
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:43,280
Speaker 1: like beaten down, like it's I've never had I've never

3217
02:27:43,400 --> 02:27:46,680
Speaker 1: had like some moment to be like oh do I

3218
02:27:46,920 --> 02:27:50,320
Speaker 1: do I do this or do this because they're equally tantalizing.

3219
02:27:51,040 --> 02:27:52,960
Speaker 1: It's always been like, well, no, man, right now, for me,

3220
02:27:53,160 --> 02:27:55,480
Speaker 1: the clear option is to go that a way, right,

3221
02:27:55,800 --> 02:27:58,480
Speaker 1: And I've just always gone like, the clear option is

3222
02:27:58,560 --> 02:27:59,959
Speaker 1: to go that way, and I just go that way.

3223
02:28:00,720 --> 02:28:03,480
Speaker 1: I've never had like a door die, do you know

3224
02:28:03,520 --> 02:28:08,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, I can't think, like thing that happened.

3225
02:28:08,600 --> 02:28:11,200
Speaker 2: To me right, change the trajectory of where you're actually going.

3226
02:28:11,240 --> 02:28:12,680
Speaker 2: It seems like it's all just been one thing to

3227
02:28:12,760 --> 02:28:14,320
Speaker 2: the next thing that's opened up the next door.

3228
02:28:14,440 --> 02:28:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's never some movie shit, you know, or like

3229
02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:18,640
Speaker 1: someone's like take it down, or.

3230
02:28:18,760 --> 02:28:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah the last opportunity or a hotel room with a

3231
02:28:21,640 --> 02:28:22,480
Speaker 2: suitcase and a guy.

3232
02:28:22,760 --> 02:28:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, never happened.

3233
02:28:24,040 --> 02:28:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, was it weird getting into the content world, like

3234
02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:32,440
Speaker 2: showing showing hunts like you know some like when we

3235
02:28:32,560 --> 02:28:34,640
Speaker 2: go on these hunts and they're prepping us about Steve

3236
02:28:34,720 --> 02:28:37,720
Speaker 2: Ranella and hey, we gotta have things in order. Camera

3237
02:28:37,800 --> 02:28:39,600
Speaker 2: guys got to be right. Because you're somebody who likes

3238
02:28:39,640 --> 02:28:42,400
Speaker 2: to go and do your thing. You're not necessarily thinking

3239
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:45,200
Speaker 2: content first. You're thinking hunting first, and the content better

3240
02:28:45,280 --> 02:28:47,760
Speaker 2: adapt around it. So was it weird when you're starting

3241
02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:50,320
Speaker 2: to implement cameras into your day to day on the

3242
02:28:50,400 --> 02:28:52,000
Speaker 2: things that you love to do and you're wanting to

3243
02:28:52,040 --> 02:28:55,160
Speaker 2: show people. Very weird, right, right, and then you're showing

3244
02:28:55,200 --> 02:28:57,240
Speaker 2: it to the world. You're putting it on socials, you're

3245
02:28:57,240 --> 02:28:58,240
Speaker 2: putting it on YouTube.

3246
02:28:58,640 --> 02:29:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very weird. And there was a couple

3247
02:29:00,840 --> 02:29:03,560
Speaker 1: of times. There's a couple of times early on in

3248
02:29:03,879 --> 02:29:06,000
Speaker 1: trying to film stuff I like to do, there's a

3249
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:07,480
Speaker 1: couple of times early on I was like, man, I

3250
02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:08,960
Speaker 1: just don't know if I want to do this, you know,

3251
02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:11,400
Speaker 1: but but I fell in love with it. And what

3252
02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:16,080
Speaker 1: one of the things that really one of the things

3253
02:29:16,080 --> 02:29:20,640
Speaker 1: that made our materials stand out in a somewhat crowded

3254
02:29:20,720 --> 02:29:24,160
Speaker 1: space is what made our materials stand out is remember

3255
02:29:24,320 --> 02:29:26,040
Speaker 1: something out of that shit would like working with ZPZ

3256
02:29:27,080 --> 02:29:33,400
Speaker 1: so like like picture that that Bourdain show for so

3257
02:29:33,640 --> 02:29:37,120
Speaker 1: long was like such heavy influence, you know, like cultural influence,

3258
02:29:37,200 --> 02:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Like it was emulated and it was like the cool

3259
02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:43,119
Speaker 1: kids worked on that show. It was like the cool show.

3260
02:29:44,120 --> 02:29:46,600
Speaker 1: Well those dudes. So there's like dudes that worked on

3261
02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:51,600
Speaker 1: that show. Nick brigged In, Jared Andrew Cannis, this guy

3262
02:29:51,760 --> 02:29:54,640
Speaker 1: Moe Fallon, Josh Ferrell, a bunch of dudes that worked

3263
02:29:54,680 --> 02:29:58,160
Speaker 1: on that show that would come when they weren't doing that,

3264
02:29:58,200 --> 02:30:01,160
Speaker 1: they would come out and do hunts. And these are

3265
02:30:01,200 --> 02:30:04,160
Speaker 1: guys that would they'd come out in film hunts, and

3266
02:30:04,280 --> 02:30:06,520
Speaker 1: these are guys that could give a shit about hunting.

3267
02:30:07,680 --> 02:30:11,039
Speaker 1: But what they were interested in is just like story, right,

3268
02:30:11,080 --> 02:30:13,360
Speaker 1: They're interested in like telling a good story, making things,

3269
02:30:13,600 --> 02:30:16,760
Speaker 1: like telling a beautiful story. And they're like what turned

3270
02:30:16,760 --> 02:30:21,800
Speaker 1: them onto it was They're they're like every quest is

3271
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:26,120
Speaker 1: so sort of encapsulated and perfect. Like if you imagine

3272
02:30:26,160 --> 02:30:28,520
Speaker 1: there's a definition of a story, you'd be like, it

3273
02:30:28,600 --> 02:30:30,560
Speaker 1: seems weird to define what a story is, but like

3274
02:30:30,840 --> 02:30:33,200
Speaker 1: a definition, a working definition of a story would be

3275
02:30:33,280 --> 02:30:41,720
Speaker 1: that there's a person or a thing wants something, there

3276
02:30:41,760 --> 02:30:46,400
Speaker 1: are obstacles preventing them from getting it. A story is

3277
02:30:47,360 --> 02:30:49,920
Speaker 1: them working through those obstacles to get it. Right. So

3278
02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:52,320
Speaker 1: you go back to the Iliad, the Odyssey, whatever, like

3279
02:30:52,680 --> 02:30:58,120
Speaker 1: it's it's that's the story. Someone or something wants something

3280
02:30:58,760 --> 02:31:00,760
Speaker 1: and they have to overcome obstacles to try to achieve it.

3281
02:31:01,160 --> 02:31:03,480
Speaker 1: And they're like, dude, it's kind of perfect because all

3282
02:31:03,560 --> 02:31:05,200
Speaker 1: the shit and all the thought you put into it,

3283
02:31:05,320 --> 02:31:08,440
Speaker 1: like what is like what's happening, it's all just right there,

3284
02:31:08,560 --> 02:31:12,040
Speaker 1: Like you want to go somewhere and get something, and

3285
02:31:12,080 --> 02:31:14,240
Speaker 1: then there's all these obstacles, but they just like cappen

3286
02:31:14,320 --> 02:31:17,800
Speaker 1: naturally anyways. Yeah, and then you either do or don't.

3287
02:31:18,560 --> 02:31:20,080
Speaker 1: But it's like it's like all you do is like

3288
02:31:20,160 --> 02:31:23,959
Speaker 1: turn someone loose the once. It's like it's just it's

3289
02:31:24,040 --> 02:31:26,440
Speaker 1: there already. So they were kind of fascinated by it,

3290
02:31:26,560 --> 02:31:28,840
Speaker 1: just in this weird way of like you could make

3291
02:31:28,879 --> 02:31:33,480
Speaker 1: these really clean, really entertaining twenty you know, thirty minute

3292
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:36,040
Speaker 1: episode is actually twenty two minutes. You can make these clean,

3293
02:31:36,440 --> 02:31:40,520
Speaker 1: entertaining little stories by just going into the woods and

3294
02:31:40,600 --> 02:31:43,280
Speaker 1: being like, what are we after? Yeah, well see you

3295
02:31:43,320 --> 02:31:45,560
Speaker 1: way up on that mountain, that thing up there, try

3296
02:31:45,560 --> 02:31:47,640
Speaker 1: to figure out get it there? Yeah, And they're like,

3297
02:31:47,720 --> 02:31:49,240
Speaker 1: and it was just it was just fun for them,

3298
02:31:49,280 --> 02:31:52,000
Speaker 1: you know. And they were able to bring their like,

3299
02:31:52,120 --> 02:31:56,040
Speaker 1: all their talents of cinematography and other stuff to this

3300
02:31:56,160 --> 02:31:58,040
Speaker 1: thing that they just thought was fun. And a lot

3301
02:31:58,080 --> 02:31:59,520
Speaker 1: of those guys later on did a little bit of

3302
02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:02,600
Speaker 1: hunting and you know, and and and and liked it.

3303
02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:05,400
Speaker 1: But they were first and foremost they were like, they

3304
02:32:05,440 --> 02:32:10,200
Speaker 1: were professionals and normally what will happen? And I'm and man,

3305
02:32:10,400 --> 02:32:13,680
Speaker 1: I am not disparaging this ship, like I do not

3306
02:32:13,920 --> 02:32:16,760
Speaker 1: want to seem like I almost I hesitated to bring

3307
02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:20,400
Speaker 1: it up. But like a lot of people that would

3308
02:32:20,440 --> 02:32:25,320
Speaker 1: come up and do hunting material would wind up being that, like,

3309
02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:28,480
Speaker 1: your crew was guys that like to hunt, you know,

3310
02:32:28,720 --> 02:32:30,640
Speaker 1: And there's a lot to be said for that. There's

3311
02:32:30,640 --> 02:32:34,080
Speaker 1: a lot to be said for it. But in those

3312
02:32:34,160 --> 02:32:36,280
Speaker 1: early days of doing it, the crew was like people

3313
02:32:36,320 --> 02:32:39,560
Speaker 1: who were like film professionals. So it was just different.

3314
02:32:40,360 --> 02:32:42,200
Speaker 1: You know, it was different, and I can't take the

3315
02:32:42,280 --> 02:32:45,240
Speaker 1: credit for it, right, right, because they brought like a

3316
02:32:45,440 --> 02:32:48,400
Speaker 1: lot and so we came out with this show and

3317
02:32:49,520 --> 02:32:51,840
Speaker 1: it was just different. And part of why it was different,

3318
02:32:51,879 --> 02:32:55,359
Speaker 1: it was it was like I'm in the world hardcore,

3319
02:32:55,760 --> 02:32:57,240
Speaker 1: But there was a lot of people involved in it

3320
02:32:57,440 --> 02:32:59,520
Speaker 1: just didn't care. Do you remember all the tribalism and

3321
02:32:59,520 --> 02:33:04,800
Speaker 1: all that lost on them? You know, if you said,

3322
02:33:04,800 --> 02:33:08,800
Speaker 1: hey man, we're gonna go hunt this kind of weird squirrel, it'd.

3323
02:33:08,600 --> 02:33:09,040
Speaker 2: Be like great.

3324
02:33:09,320 --> 02:33:10,840
Speaker 1: They didn't know enough to know that that was done.

3325
02:33:10,879 --> 02:33:13,240
Speaker 2: Cool man, let's what's what's the story? And taking down

3326
02:33:13,280 --> 02:33:16,119
Speaker 2: the squirrel? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

3327
02:33:16,160 --> 02:33:17,520
Speaker 4: As soon as he got a crew now that I

3328
02:33:17,560 --> 02:33:21,280
Speaker 4: mean Max himself, says Willison. He pulled up the coyote

3329
02:33:21,320 --> 02:33:24,280
Speaker 4: from forward, like you got a crew that like it.

3330
02:33:24,280 --> 02:33:26,040
Speaker 2: Seems like everyone just lives and breathing.

3331
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:28,600
Speaker 1: Now I got Now we got best of both worlds

3332
02:33:28,640 --> 02:33:32,080
Speaker 1: because now we got these guys that are like media professionals.

3333
02:33:32,720 --> 02:33:34,760
Speaker 1: But you know, long time has gone by, but now

3334
02:33:35,080 --> 02:33:38,720
Speaker 1: there's these like media professionals who are also very passionate

3335
02:33:39,200 --> 02:33:43,680
Speaker 1: and like here's the thing you take a dude like Max, really,

3336
02:33:44,240 --> 02:33:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if you kind of looked at it, you'd

3337
02:33:46,120 --> 02:33:49,320
Speaker 1: almost maybe think that, like if someone came down like

3338
02:33:49,400 --> 02:33:53,320
Speaker 1: a A A A A an objective person came down

3339
02:33:54,480 --> 02:33:56,800
Speaker 1: and sort of looked at the meritocracy of it all,

3340
02:33:57,080 --> 02:33:59,560
Speaker 1: they might be like, dude, I think that Max should

3341
02:33:59,560 --> 02:34:03,280
Speaker 1: be the guy on camera, and Steve should be and

3342
02:34:03,440 --> 02:34:07,560
Speaker 1: Max crushes old dude. Steve should be like the whatever,

3343
02:34:08,760 --> 02:34:13,920
Speaker 1: like the fucking the CFO guy or some ship. And

3344
02:34:14,000 --> 02:34:16,000
Speaker 1: it should be that this Max dude is like hosting

3345
02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:19,520
Speaker 1: the trips because like he's got like he's got all this,

3346
02:34:19,720 --> 02:34:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, he's.

3347
02:34:20,200 --> 02:34:24,840
Speaker 2: Like a you got your guys like walking around with them.

3348
02:34:24,920 --> 02:34:28,920
Speaker 2: It's Max spots the Cayo four hundred yards away Steve's.

3349
02:34:29,200 --> 02:34:31,560
Speaker 2: Once Max points it out, Steve's knows exactly where it is.

3350
02:34:31,600 --> 02:34:34,240
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, what are these guys looking like, where

3351
02:34:34,280 --> 02:34:36,320
Speaker 2: the hey, Steve, where we're at on the mountain. It's

3352
02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:38,600
Speaker 2: right under there, under that little lip of the cliff,

3353
02:34:38,680 --> 02:34:41,200
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm trying to spot in the next thing.

3354
02:34:41,240 --> 02:34:43,879
Speaker 2: You know, Steve's on the gun. But even walking these

3355
02:34:43,959 --> 02:34:47,640
Speaker 2: guys and birds, these guys in bird, He'll he'll be

3356
02:34:47,680 --> 02:34:49,440
Speaker 2: in the middle of a story that he's been telling

3357
02:34:49,480 --> 02:34:52,840
Speaker 2: this entire podcast, and they'll just I don't even know

3358
02:34:52,920 --> 02:34:55,440
Speaker 2: what happens, but he stops, like the way you you know,

3359
02:34:55,920 --> 02:34:57,680
Speaker 2: talk about Garrett where he just kind of stops and

3360
02:34:57,760 --> 02:35:00,520
Speaker 2: looks around. But he'll be Steve be in the middle

3361
02:35:00,520 --> 02:35:02,720
Speaker 2: of a story and he'll just stop and him be like,

3362
02:35:02,959 --> 02:35:05,840
Speaker 2: mact you heard that. Yeah, yeah, that seems like one

3363
02:35:05,879 --> 02:35:10,120
Speaker 2: of those blueberry pheasants that that came down that migrated

3364
02:35:10,160 --> 02:35:13,480
Speaker 2: down from the northeast. Yes, sounds about four years old.

3365
02:35:13,720 --> 02:35:17,160
Speaker 2: It sounds like he brought his family down here. And

3366
02:35:17,240 --> 02:35:18,880
Speaker 2: it'll be in the middle of a story and he'll

3367
02:35:18,959 --> 02:35:21,480
Speaker 2: just hear this noise were they're talking about some like

3368
02:35:21,640 --> 02:35:25,240
Speaker 2: some crane and max like it stands like four feet tall.

3369
02:35:25,120 --> 02:35:27,440
Speaker 1: From the south. We're talking about Sandhill crane.

3370
02:35:29,040 --> 02:35:32,920
Speaker 2: We'll be walking on the hill and we'll be walking

3371
02:35:32,959 --> 02:35:34,840
Speaker 2: on the hill and Steve will just stop it. He'll

3372
02:35:34,840 --> 02:35:36,879
Speaker 2: sprint to this other hill and find this little bottom

3373
02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:39,039
Speaker 2: jaw of a lizard bonum. But hey, check this out

3374
02:35:39,080 --> 02:35:39,520
Speaker 2: about how.

3375
02:35:39,520 --> 02:35:40,560
Speaker 1: The did you see that.

3376
02:35:42,680 --> 02:35:44,040
Speaker 2: Your eyes operate that way?

3377
02:35:44,800 --> 02:35:46,680
Speaker 4: Something as simple as we're like driving back in the

3378
02:35:46,760 --> 02:35:48,880
Speaker 4: can am from the night hunt last night.

3379
02:35:49,040 --> 02:35:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and garrets. In the middle of talking about horses

3380
02:35:51,440 --> 02:35:53,320
Speaker 2: and a bird goes by. He's like, yeah, so we

3381
02:35:53,400 --> 02:35:57,840
Speaker 2: had we robi pheasant and he just he has to

3382
02:35:58,959 --> 02:36:02,640
Speaker 2: let me know he saw this bird and you know,

3383
02:36:02,800 --> 02:36:05,480
Speaker 2: every pardicular just so you know.

3384
02:36:05,520 --> 02:36:07,480
Speaker 4: That blur that just went across your face as a pheasant.

3385
02:36:07,520 --> 02:36:08,840
Speaker 4: You'll never be able to see it again.

3386
02:36:09,360 --> 02:36:12,800
Speaker 2: But that's as long as you know. Now. It's insane.

3387
02:36:13,400 --> 02:36:16,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a thing that's like, imagine you could

3388
02:36:17,000 --> 02:36:18,720
Speaker 1: look at it and you'd be like, it's like, uh,

3389
02:36:20,120 --> 02:36:22,320
Speaker 1: well I was insane. I imagine someone could want to

3390
02:36:22,360 --> 02:36:24,280
Speaker 1: look down on it and say it's just sort of

3391
02:36:24,400 --> 02:36:27,360
Speaker 1: like some kind of like colonial tendency or whatever. I

3392
02:36:27,400 --> 02:36:31,440
Speaker 1: don't know, but there is a thing with outdoorsmen be

3393
02:36:31,640 --> 02:36:38,560
Speaker 1: like that cataloging landscape is I've never called it that before,

3394
02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:40,440
Speaker 1: but just hearing you guys talk about there is a

3395
02:36:40,560 --> 02:36:43,840
Speaker 1: thing of like the need to.

3396
02:36:43,879 --> 02:36:44,600
Speaker 6: Like list it all.

3397
02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3398
02:36:45,360 --> 02:36:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you ad you have to go like

3399
02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:51,200
Speaker 1: you have you can't. It can't go unnoticed.

3400
02:36:51,480 --> 02:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like you guys are legit, like like

3401
02:36:55,240 --> 02:36:58,480
Speaker 2: like wild animals like a noises You're like, yeah, you

3402
02:36:58,520 --> 02:37:02,320
Speaker 2: can part of land and Steve yesterday. We're just standing

3403
02:37:02,360 --> 02:37:04,560
Speaker 2: by the river. He's like, oh, look the beavers. This

3404
02:37:04,720 --> 02:37:06,880
Speaker 2: is where they kind of you know, this is kind

3405
02:37:06,879 --> 02:37:09,320
Speaker 2: of where they It's like they're Johnny on the spot.

3406
02:37:09,400 --> 02:37:11,480
Speaker 2: Look they're rolling around over here. That's beautiful.

3407
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:12,480
Speaker 1: And you're standing there.

3408
02:37:12,480 --> 02:37:14,480
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, grass here.

3409
02:37:14,320 --> 02:37:16,440
Speaker 4: And Steve goes, you see this, this horseshoe in this

3410
02:37:16,520 --> 02:37:18,480
Speaker 4: little river. I'm like, yeah, he goes, We'll see how

3411
02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:21,160
Speaker 4: it's kind of like uh sloped here. Well, the beavers

3412
02:37:21,160 --> 02:37:22,600
Speaker 4: and the otters they just think I'm not gonna take

3413
02:37:22,600 --> 02:37:24,600
Speaker 4: that trail. I'm just gonna go and slide over through here.

3414
02:37:24,640 --> 02:37:25,920
Speaker 4: And I'm just like standing in the middle of like

3415
02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:27,160
Speaker 4: their highway or whatever.

3416
02:37:27,480 --> 02:37:29,360
Speaker 2: In the ud. He's talking about the method.

3417
02:37:29,920 --> 02:37:32,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're like slowly sinking to your death. And

3418
02:37:32,640 --> 02:37:34,800
Speaker 4: he's like, you know some crazy guys when ice fishing

3419
02:37:34,879 --> 02:37:40,240
Speaker 4: back there, it's like this wealth and knowledge, Yeah, wealth

3420
02:37:40,280 --> 02:37:41,400
Speaker 4: and knowledge never been hitting.

3421
02:37:41,200 --> 02:37:42,080
Speaker 2: The head that many times?

3422
02:37:42,320 --> 02:37:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you when you go out with these guys

3423
02:37:45,400 --> 02:37:46,840
Speaker 4: like obviously Will and I we sit there and we

3424
02:37:46,920 --> 02:37:49,080
Speaker 4: obviously been to knee like we don't we're we're we

3425
02:37:49,240 --> 02:37:52,200
Speaker 4: listen to you. We know, we don't know, so that

3426
02:37:52,320 --> 02:37:54,320
Speaker 4: makes it more fun for us to learn and like

3427
02:37:54,400 --> 02:37:57,080
Speaker 4: hear your stories. Do you ever have guests that come

3428
02:37:57,120 --> 02:38:00,400
Speaker 4: in and be like the greatest hunter, I'm maybe the

3429
02:38:01,400 --> 02:38:04,400
Speaker 4: greatest gift to hunting I've ever anyone's ever seen. And

3430
02:38:07,959 --> 02:38:09,440
Speaker 4: I had something like that and tells a story has

3431
02:38:09,560 --> 02:38:10,960
Speaker 4: nothing to do with anything he's saying.

3432
02:38:11,320 --> 02:38:16,440
Speaker 1: I have definitely encountered blowhards, but no, not like no,

3433
02:38:17,720 --> 02:38:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, it just doesn't happen. Uh, it doesn't happen,

3434
02:38:23,600 --> 02:38:27,680
Speaker 1: and I try not to. I just try not to

3435
02:38:27,959 --> 02:38:33,840
Speaker 1: even create environments where that's like I just like the

3436
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:37,200
Speaker 1: dick swinging and all that. Like, I like, I'm sure

3437
02:38:37,360 --> 02:38:40,360
Speaker 1: you could probably build you could probably build a world

3438
02:38:40,600 --> 02:38:44,080
Speaker 1: where it was just full of it, you know, but

3439
02:38:44,520 --> 02:38:47,360
Speaker 1: I just am so I just I dislike it. I

3440
02:38:47,480 --> 02:38:48,000
Speaker 1: dislike it.

3441
02:38:48,200 --> 02:38:51,320
Speaker 2: Are there any uh content creators in the outdoors world

3442
02:38:51,360 --> 02:38:53,400
Speaker 2: out there that are just kind of full of ship.

3443
02:38:54,920 --> 02:38:57,160
Speaker 1: Like I'll be I'll be around crazy, I'll be out

3444
02:38:57,160 --> 02:38:58,120
Speaker 1: around some what.

3445
02:38:58,200 --> 02:38:58,640
Speaker 2: We want you to do?

3446
02:38:58,680 --> 02:39:01,840
Speaker 4: On Bust with the Boy started with another outdoor where's

3447
02:39:01,840 --> 02:39:02,720
Speaker 4: the outdoor beef?

3448
02:39:02,840 --> 02:39:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

3449
02:39:03,080 --> 02:39:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, beef.

3450
02:39:05,200 --> 02:39:07,280
Speaker 1: You gotta be Yeah, No, you'd have to be. Uh,

3451
02:39:07,520 --> 02:39:10,240
Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no way I would ever take

3452
02:39:10,280 --> 02:39:10,840
Speaker 1: that question on.

3453
02:39:11,440 --> 02:39:13,560
Speaker 2: But say you don't take the question, are there are

3454
02:39:13,640 --> 02:39:15,320
Speaker 2: their thoughts of like, yeah, there's some people that are

3455
02:39:15,600 --> 02:39:17,520
Speaker 2: like I'll be around some outdoor buddies and they'll bring

3456
02:39:17,680 --> 02:39:20,440
Speaker 2: up some brand or some personality. In fact, they curate

3457
02:39:20,520 --> 02:39:22,440
Speaker 2: it this way. But I've I've hunted with this guy

3458
02:39:22,480 --> 02:39:24,560
Speaker 2: and it's all it's all manufactured.

3459
02:39:24,760 --> 02:39:27,000
Speaker 1: Well, here, I'll tell you this. It won't be as

3460
02:39:27,120 --> 02:39:30,760
Speaker 1: satisfying you to hear it. There are people I know

3461
02:39:32,360 --> 02:39:37,160
Speaker 1: that are like exceptionally talented hunters, and I'll know that

3462
02:39:37,280 --> 02:39:40,000
Speaker 1: they're like I'll know their bio. I'll know that they're

3463
02:39:40,120 --> 02:39:45,360
Speaker 1: exceptionally talented and like extremely dedicated, and then I'll hear rumors, Oh,

3464
02:39:45,440 --> 02:39:48,840
Speaker 1: yeah he ain't ship, he did this, he did that,

3465
02:39:48,959 --> 02:39:51,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, it's not true, man, it's not true.

3466
02:39:52,000 --> 02:39:56,879
Speaker 1: Like there's such an appetite to there's such an appetite

3467
02:39:56,959 --> 02:40:00,160
Speaker 1: to see people be diminished, in such an appetite to

3468
02:40:00,160 --> 02:40:01,840
Speaker 1: see people be put in their place.

3469
02:40:03,400 --> 02:40:04,240
Speaker 2: That that.

3470
02:40:05,920 --> 02:40:09,720
Speaker 1: People want those stories. They ask for those stories. They're

3471
02:40:09,800 --> 02:40:13,440
Speaker 1: hoping for those stories. They're hoping to hear a story

3472
02:40:13,480 --> 02:40:16,920
Speaker 1: about how terrible someone is. So in the same way

3473
02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:24,560
Speaker 1: that if I'm talking to listen man, well, no, hear

3474
02:40:24,600 --> 02:40:26,320
Speaker 1: me out on this, because like there's different ways of

3475
02:40:26,360 --> 02:40:29,959
Speaker 1: looking at shit, Like if I'm hearing all about let's

3476
02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:31,520
Speaker 1: say I'm you know, let's say I'm talking to my

3477
02:40:31,600 --> 02:40:35,440
Speaker 1: wife and I'm hearing all about someone how terrible some

3478
02:40:35,640 --> 02:40:38,680
Speaker 1: friend's husband is, or maybe I'm hearing about all about

3479
02:40:38,720 --> 02:40:43,720
Speaker 1: how terrible some friend's wife is. I'm always sitting there

3480
02:40:43,800 --> 02:40:47,840
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, why I'd have to hear their story too? Right?

3481
02:40:47,959 --> 02:40:51,360
Speaker 1: It infuriates people around me where when I hear a

3482
02:40:51,440 --> 02:40:54,760
Speaker 1: story a lot of times I'm like, I have like

3483
02:40:54,840 --> 02:40:57,120
Speaker 1: a somewhat contrarian thing where I'm like, why I'd have

3484
02:40:57,160 --> 02:40:59,720
Speaker 1: to hear more from them? You know, sounds bad, but

3485
02:40:59,720 --> 02:41:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't heard the full story. So

3486
02:41:03,400 --> 02:41:09,480
Speaker 1: there is so you hear so much shit talking, it's

3487
02:41:09,520 --> 02:41:12,040
Speaker 1: got to be way worse, and it's got to be

3488
02:41:12,080 --> 02:41:16,240
Speaker 1: way worse in your guys world of like professional like

3489
02:41:17,080 --> 02:41:19,200
Speaker 1: like like in athletics, it's got to be like a

3490
02:41:19,360 --> 02:41:23,480
Speaker 1: thousand times worse. But yeah, there's this thing where everybody

3491
02:41:23,680 --> 02:41:28,000
Speaker 1: wants everybody to be ain't shit. They ain't all that,

3492
02:41:28,240 --> 02:41:32,120
Speaker 1: they don't at their opposer whatever, you know what I mean,

3493
02:41:32,240 --> 02:41:34,480
Speaker 1: And when I hear it, I'm was like, man, knowing

3494
02:41:34,760 --> 02:41:38,480
Speaker 1: how bad people want negative to be true and that

3495
02:41:38,560 --> 02:41:41,040
Speaker 1: they're rooting for negatives to be true, I just tend

3496
02:41:41,120 --> 02:41:42,280
Speaker 1: to just dismiss it.

3497
02:41:42,800 --> 02:41:45,160
Speaker 4: Sounds like a much more peaceful lifestyle than will and

3498
02:41:45,320 --> 02:41:47,400
Speaker 4: what will I grew up. I grew up in because

3499
02:41:47,400 --> 02:41:48,800
Speaker 4: the locker room can be a nasty place.

3500
02:41:49,280 --> 02:41:51,520
Speaker 1: It's such a perform because.

3501
02:41:51,520 --> 02:41:53,760
Speaker 4: You want to be seen as better, even if you

3502
02:41:53,800 --> 02:41:55,080
Speaker 4: want to be looked at as better than you might

3503
02:41:55,160 --> 02:41:57,720
Speaker 4: might actually be a lot of times guys will lean

3504
02:41:57,800 --> 02:42:01,200
Speaker 4: to well, he's not very good, I'm better, or especially

3505
02:42:01,240 --> 02:42:02,280
Speaker 4: in like position groups, or.

3506
02:42:02,280 --> 02:42:05,120
Speaker 2: If somebody gets coached a little differently, coach is harder

3507
02:42:05,160 --> 02:42:08,800
Speaker 2: on somebody else, or you see, you know, if I'm

3508
02:42:08,800 --> 02:42:11,640
Speaker 2: thinking of my experiences, you might feel like I might

3509
02:42:11,680 --> 02:42:14,200
Speaker 2: feel like I'm doing something correctly. I'm getting really I'm

3510
02:42:14,280 --> 02:42:17,440
Speaker 2: getting coached on something very small, and somebody that could

3511
02:42:17,480 --> 02:42:20,760
Speaker 2: be above me on the depth chart per se, they

3512
02:42:20,800 --> 02:42:22,920
Speaker 2: could be doing something that the technique that's going on

3513
02:42:23,080 --> 02:42:24,760
Speaker 2: is not even being taught. But the coach kind of

3514
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:27,480
Speaker 2: goes over it because he's he's like, yeah, he's the

3515
02:42:27,560 --> 02:42:29,240
Speaker 2: guy you know what I mean, And so you feel

3516
02:42:29,320 --> 02:42:31,840
Speaker 2: like this, you feel like this bitterness that could build

3517
02:42:31,879 --> 02:42:35,160
Speaker 2: in your mind because yeah, it's all so it's all

3518
02:42:35,280 --> 02:42:39,240
Speaker 2: so performance based and in your success and you attaining

3519
02:42:39,360 --> 02:42:42,560
Speaker 2: this you know, the roster spot or whatever it is

3520
02:42:43,400 --> 02:42:45,720
Speaker 2: is like predicated on your performance. So I feel like

3521
02:42:45,760 --> 02:42:49,080
Speaker 2: you're very more high alert or highly aware of all

3522
02:42:49,120 --> 02:42:51,040
Speaker 2: of these stories that are going on around you to

3523
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:53,720
Speaker 2: make it seem like you're you're doing the correct thing.

3524
02:42:53,760 --> 02:42:56,160
Speaker 2: And this guy he's not that good, Like your past

3525
02:42:56,160 --> 02:42:58,240
Speaker 2: set's different than this guy, but the headlines are really

3526
02:42:58,280 --> 02:42:59,600
Speaker 2: happened this guy up And you're like, I mean, he's

3527
02:42:59,640 --> 02:43:02,120
Speaker 2: not really right, he doesn't have it. Yeah, he doesn't

3528
02:43:02,120 --> 02:43:03,640
Speaker 2: have that. Yeah, I feel like it is a lot

3529
02:43:04,200 --> 02:43:05,000
Speaker 2: conversation in.

3530
02:43:05,000 --> 02:43:07,160
Speaker 4: The sports world. I can almost we almost speak for football,

3531
02:43:07,160 --> 02:43:12,440
Speaker 4: but ego, Yeah, it's insanely it's insane, it's out of control.

3532
02:43:12,560 --> 02:43:15,280
Speaker 1: Do you feel that in in that world? Do you

3533
02:43:15,320 --> 02:43:21,280
Speaker 1: feel that there's a way that talent isn't captured by stats?

3534
02:43:21,440 --> 02:43:22,880
Speaker 1: Like it seems to me like how could there be

3535
02:43:22,959 --> 02:43:28,520
Speaker 1: anything to argue about because all all reality is laid out,

3536
02:43:28,680 --> 02:43:31,160
Speaker 1: like all reality is is on the table.

3537
02:43:31,760 --> 02:43:35,160
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I think you can there's stats only tell

3538
02:43:35,240 --> 02:43:37,400
Speaker 4: part of the story. It's easy to see with like

3539
02:43:37,600 --> 02:43:40,480
Speaker 4: receivers or quarterbacks and all that. But like take Will

3540
02:43:40,480 --> 02:43:42,920
Speaker 4: for instance. We Will was the middle linebacker, if he

3541
02:43:43,080 --> 02:43:46,280
Speaker 4: had two de tackles that are shitty in front of him,

3542
02:43:46,560 --> 02:43:48,720
Speaker 4: it's gonna make him look worse, and they might get

3543
02:43:48,760 --> 02:43:51,080
Speaker 4: the detaglers might have better stats because they're doing things

3544
02:43:51,120 --> 02:43:53,120
Speaker 4: that they shouldn't be doing, but they're getting through the

3545
02:43:53,120 --> 02:43:55,480
Speaker 4: line of screams a little bit faster, but they're leaving big,

3546
02:43:55,560 --> 02:43:57,400
Speaker 4: gaping holes where Will has to now have a bigger

3547
02:43:57,560 --> 02:43:59,119
Speaker 4: area to cover to make a tackle.

3548
02:43:59,680 --> 02:44:00,560
Speaker 1: He's look worse.

3549
02:44:00,600 --> 02:44:01,520
Speaker 2: But if you have two guys that.

3550
02:44:01,560 --> 02:44:03,440
Speaker 4: Are doing their job in that instance and maybe not

3551
02:44:03,560 --> 02:44:05,920
Speaker 4: making the tackle, but putting everybody else in a position

3552
02:44:05,920 --> 02:44:08,200
Speaker 4: to make the tackle, their value now goes up a

3553
02:44:08,280 --> 02:44:15,640
Speaker 4: lot more offensive line there isom's.

3554
02:44:13,040 --> 02:44:13,680
Speaker 2: There's more room.

3555
02:44:14,320 --> 02:44:18,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you talk to like offensive linemen, our stats

3556
02:44:18,480 --> 02:44:20,560
Speaker 4: are only negative how many penalties you get, how many

3557
02:44:20,600 --> 02:44:24,200
Speaker 4: sacks you give up, those types of things. But there

3558
02:44:24,280 --> 02:44:26,880
Speaker 4: is a way like helping your neighbor, Like we like

3559
02:44:27,040 --> 02:44:29,200
Speaker 4: as five guys on offensive line, Like we're only as

3560
02:44:29,240 --> 02:44:31,600
Speaker 4: good as a cohesive unit. So if I'm playing great

3561
02:44:31,640 --> 02:44:34,320
Speaker 4: with my left guard's playing bad, or vice versa. Like

3562
02:44:34,440 --> 02:44:36,400
Speaker 4: it's kind of on both of us because there's so

3563
02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:38,080
Speaker 4: many times in a game that I can help my

3564
02:44:38,160 --> 02:44:41,080
Speaker 4: buddy out with, you know, putting my hand and a

3565
02:44:41,160 --> 02:44:43,520
Speaker 4: guy's shoulder at a certain spot so it turns his

3566
02:44:43,520 --> 02:44:45,840
Speaker 4: shoulder more so it makes that reach block easier for

3567
02:44:45,959 --> 02:44:48,240
Speaker 4: my guard, or he helps me out on the backside

3568
02:44:48,280 --> 02:44:50,640
Speaker 4: cut off. There's so many it's like that's why it's

3569
02:44:50,640 --> 02:44:53,200
Speaker 4: the greatest team sport. Ever, It's like no one can

3570
02:44:53,320 --> 02:44:54,240
Speaker 4: just do it by themselves.

3571
02:44:54,360 --> 02:44:55,080
Speaker 2: It's not like basketball.

3572
02:44:55,120 --> 02:44:56,600
Speaker 4: We can just have like a superstar that puts like

3573
02:44:56,640 --> 02:44:59,000
Speaker 4: forty up a game. Everyone's got a kind of function

3574
02:44:59,560 --> 02:45:02,160
Speaker 4: and have this well oiled machine working as one unit.

3575
02:45:02,240 --> 02:45:04,720
Speaker 4: Otherwise it all falls apart. But with that comes guys

3576
02:45:04,760 --> 02:45:07,680
Speaker 4: getting more stats than others and paid more and an ego.

3577
02:45:08,040 --> 02:45:10,080
Speaker 4: Well I should have got this because I was will

3578
02:45:10,120 --> 02:45:12,200
Speaker 4: had one hundred tackles this year, but I was eating

3579
02:45:12,280 --> 02:45:13,960
Speaker 4: up two blocks at a time. I should be getting

3580
02:45:13,959 --> 02:45:17,760
Speaker 4: paid more than ego. Fights fights fights. That's why culturally,

3581
02:45:17,879 --> 02:45:20,440
Speaker 4: you need great leadership not only in the locker room,

3582
02:45:20,440 --> 02:45:24,080
Speaker 4: but also from a coaching standpoint as well. So it's

3583
02:45:24,120 --> 02:45:26,840
Speaker 4: a there's a lot of different nuances in the football

3584
02:45:26,840 --> 02:45:27,560
Speaker 4: world that.

3585
02:45:27,640 --> 02:45:30,240
Speaker 2: Are just yeah, there's a lot underneath the surface, a

3586
02:45:30,280 --> 02:45:32,520
Speaker 2: lot underneath. Yeah, gaps can get filled in and not

3587
02:45:32,640 --> 02:45:35,160
Speaker 2: as like comparable to like basketball, where I feel like

3588
02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:37,520
Speaker 2: the realities and the stats are laid out a little bit,

3589
02:45:38,200 --> 02:45:41,120
Speaker 2: a little bit easier for like the objective eye. Yeah.

3590
02:45:41,600 --> 02:45:42,640
Speaker 2: But going off of like.

3591
02:45:44,160 --> 02:45:46,520
Speaker 4: Not hating on people, but was there ever a guess

3592
02:45:47,400 --> 02:45:49,440
Speaker 4: that came on and you're like, I don't know if

3593
02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:50,760
Speaker 4: what this guy's going to know, like and was like

3594
02:45:50,800 --> 02:45:53,400
Speaker 4: a pleasant surprise of their knowledge and understanding of the

3595
02:45:53,440 --> 02:45:54,920
Speaker 4: outdoors they kind of stood out to you.

3596
02:45:57,240 --> 02:45:59,840
Speaker 1: There's there's been a lot of people that have stood

3597
02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:01,720
Speaker 1: out to me, but I can't think of people did

3598
02:46:01,840 --> 02:46:03,840
Speaker 1: where I want to being surprised.

3599
02:46:03,520 --> 02:46:07,600
Speaker 4: And you can't say us, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel

3600
02:46:07,600 --> 02:46:09,560
Speaker 4: like you were surprised with our shooting abilities last time.

3601
02:46:09,800 --> 02:46:13,320
Speaker 1: That was surprising. Well, I was surprised until I thought

3602
02:46:13,320 --> 02:46:15,200
Speaker 1: about it, but then I thought about it. But like,

3603
02:46:18,840 --> 02:46:20,880
Speaker 1: but you guys have obviously you have to have like

3604
02:46:20,959 --> 02:46:23,600
Speaker 1: a very good you have to have a very developed

3605
02:46:23,680 --> 02:46:29,720
Speaker 1: sense of situational awareness, extremely good hand eye coordination mhm, right,

3606
02:46:30,080 --> 02:46:35,000
Speaker 1: and just like a little zip in your head. That

3607
02:46:35,560 --> 02:46:35,920
Speaker 1: was not me.

3608
02:46:36,080 --> 02:46:40,680
Speaker 2: You know, I'm claiming what happened there we go.

3609
02:46:42,760 --> 02:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because a zip in your head like a fast

3610
02:46:51,360 --> 02:46:53,840
Speaker 1: kind of like thinking thing. So then it was like,

3611
02:46:55,280 --> 02:46:57,400
Speaker 1: then it made sense to me that you would excel

3612
02:46:57,480 --> 02:46:59,720
Speaker 1: at it, you know, because you have a and then

3613
02:46:59,760 --> 02:47:02,600
Speaker 1: all so there's a competitive drive. So it made sense

3614
02:47:02,600 --> 02:47:04,320
Speaker 1: to me. But I was surprised, Yeah, because I've seen

3615
02:47:04,360 --> 02:47:08,360
Speaker 1: people really struggle with, you know, trying to pick up

3616
02:47:08,360 --> 02:47:10,240
Speaker 1: a shotgun and hit a moving target with a shotgun.

3617
02:47:10,600 --> 02:47:14,600
Speaker 1: But then when you factor in that your whole life

3618
02:47:14,640 --> 02:47:18,080
Speaker 1: has been you know, big portions of your life are

3619
02:47:18,120 --> 02:47:24,480
Speaker 1: focused around a moving ball and following it and figuring

3620
02:47:24,480 --> 02:47:26,360
Speaker 1: out what to do and making quick decisions. So yeah,

3621
02:47:26,400 --> 02:47:29,120
Speaker 1: that would make sense you'd wind up being good. Now,

3622
02:47:31,920 --> 02:47:34,000
Speaker 1: I was telling I was telling Will about something the

3623
02:47:34,040 --> 02:47:36,120
Speaker 1: our days, like we went out kyot Colin. Okay, and

3624
02:47:37,480 --> 02:47:40,800
Speaker 1: we'll go Kyote calling. It's kind of a mid winter

3625
02:47:40,920 --> 02:47:45,040
Speaker 1: thing here, like after big game hunting seasons are all done,

3626
02:47:45,320 --> 02:47:47,760
Speaker 1: just a fun thing to do to keep active at

3627
02:47:47,760 --> 02:47:49,120
Speaker 1: a time of year and there's not a lot going on,

3628
02:47:49,440 --> 02:47:51,120
Speaker 1: so we'll go Kyle Colin. But I was telling him,

3629
02:47:51,200 --> 02:47:53,320
Speaker 1: I got a friend, this guy named Mercer Long right,

3630
02:47:54,000 --> 02:48:00,200
Speaker 1: who's a professional predator guy. Like he catches he does

3631
02:48:00,280 --> 02:48:06,240
Speaker 1: government work as a caller for predation work he does.

3632
02:48:06,720 --> 02:48:10,240
Speaker 1: He catches bobcats for researchers to put radio callers on.

3633
02:48:10,800 --> 02:48:15,920
Speaker 1: Like his whole life. He's a fur trapper, so catches

3634
02:48:16,000 --> 02:48:20,640
Speaker 1: bobcats for the fur market. I'm bouncing over the place,

3635
02:48:21,160 --> 02:48:25,280
Speaker 1: catches bobcats for the fur market. Does predator work for

3636
02:48:25,520 --> 02:48:30,280
Speaker 1: biologists where if you have like imperiled species and you're

3637
02:48:30,280 --> 02:48:35,480
Speaker 1: trying to and you're trying to help sustain like a

3638
02:48:35,520 --> 02:48:38,480
Speaker 1: small population of animals and try to get them built

3639
02:48:38,520 --> 02:48:41,080
Speaker 1: back up again, and so you're trying to reduce predation

3640
02:48:41,280 --> 02:48:44,120
Speaker 1: on that little population of animals. He's a guy that

3641
02:48:44,160 --> 02:48:47,920
Speaker 1: will come in and do predator control, very targeted predator

3642
02:48:47,959 --> 02:48:52,880
Speaker 1: control in a place and catches stuff for researchers who

3643
02:48:52,959 --> 02:48:56,240
Speaker 1: want to do put collars on them, radio tracking collars

3644
02:48:56,280 --> 02:48:59,400
Speaker 1: on them. It's all this guy, I mean, like his

3645
02:48:59,560 --> 02:49:04,520
Speaker 1: whole life. So here's a guy that he'll call. He'll

3646
02:49:04,560 --> 02:49:10,080
Speaker 1: go predator calling for months on end, every day, months

3647
02:49:10,160 --> 02:49:14,760
Speaker 1: on end. You get to like you guys will make

3648
02:49:14,840 --> 02:49:16,640
Speaker 1: some jokes about like, oh you guys know this, and

3649
02:49:16,720 --> 02:49:18,600
Speaker 1: you're me, you know, me and Max or me and

3650
02:49:18,680 --> 02:49:21,120
Speaker 1: Garrett will like see this and see this and see this.

3651
02:49:22,400 --> 02:49:24,200
Speaker 1: You go hang out with like a dude like that

3652
02:49:24,600 --> 02:49:28,879
Speaker 1: who has been hyper focused on one small little component

3653
02:49:29,720 --> 02:49:32,760
Speaker 1: of this, and then you get into like some holy

3654
02:49:32,840 --> 02:49:33,400
Speaker 1: shit shit.

3655
02:49:34,240 --> 02:49:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like snow white talking to the animals.

3656
02:49:36,080 --> 02:49:40,720
Speaker 1: Dude. You get into like, you get into highly focused man.

3657
02:49:40,800 --> 02:49:42,800
Speaker 1: And then I had a couple of experiences of being

3658
02:49:42,800 --> 02:49:45,600
Speaker 1: able to go down to South America and hang out

3659
02:49:45,680 --> 02:49:51,840
Speaker 1: with indigenous South Americans and so here your people living,

3660
02:49:51,879 --> 02:49:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, live in a community in the jungle. Your

3661
02:49:55,120 --> 02:50:00,440
Speaker 1: people have always been there. They spend their whole lives

3662
02:50:00,520 --> 02:50:03,560
Speaker 1: maybe within let's say you spend your whole life within

3663
02:50:03,640 --> 02:50:07,440
Speaker 1: about a seventy five mile radius. But so did your

3664
02:50:07,560 --> 02:50:13,879
Speaker 1: great grandpa, your grandpa, your dad. You you guys hunting

3665
02:50:13,920 --> 02:50:17,119
Speaker 1: fish two hundred and fifty days a year. You want

3666
02:50:17,120 --> 02:50:20,280
Speaker 1: to talk about hearing some bird off in the distance. Yeah,

3667
02:50:21,320 --> 02:50:22,880
Speaker 1: they know what it is. They know what treeo it's

3668
02:50:22,879 --> 02:50:26,600
Speaker 1: sitting on. They know what that bird's mom was. You

3669
02:50:26,640 --> 02:50:30,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like you can't there's a level,

3670
02:50:31,440 --> 02:50:34,000
Speaker 1: there's there's a level of depth to this shit that

3671
02:50:34,280 --> 02:50:37,400
Speaker 1: that certain people can get and like I get to

3672
02:50:37,480 --> 02:50:39,000
Speaker 1: live in it, but I live in this whole other

3673
02:50:39,080 --> 02:50:41,840
Speaker 1: thing of like like you know, producing media, and there's

3674
02:50:41,879 --> 02:50:44,680
Speaker 1: like a business component. There's a lot of guys out there.

3675
02:50:45,879 --> 02:50:47,440
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys out there that just do

3676
02:50:47,600 --> 02:50:53,600
Speaker 1: a very stripped down version of just all in fucking

3677
02:50:53,720 --> 02:50:56,640
Speaker 1: all nature all the time, man. And that's like hanging

3678
02:50:56,680 --> 02:50:59,080
Speaker 1: out with When you talk about being surprised by people,

3679
02:50:59,440 --> 02:51:04,280
Speaker 1: the surprise winds up being how deep you can go

3680
02:51:04,520 --> 02:51:10,000
Speaker 1: and how good you can get on on on like

3681
02:51:10,200 --> 02:51:14,240
Speaker 1: wildlife and just immersing yourself into that natural world man.

3682
02:51:15,040 --> 02:51:17,480
Speaker 1: And uh, I get to touch it. I get to

3683
02:51:17,600 --> 02:51:20,320
Speaker 1: like tickle it, you know. But there's some dudes that

3684
02:51:20,400 --> 02:51:23,160
Speaker 1: live it. Yeah. And I always try to be clear, like,

3685
02:51:24,680 --> 02:51:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, I never run around talking about you know,

3686
02:51:28,480 --> 02:51:32,360
Speaker 1: I never run around talking about knowing more than whoever,

3687
02:51:32,959 --> 02:51:36,800
Speaker 1: because I've met the guys that know, like, I've met

3688
02:51:36,840 --> 02:51:39,360
Speaker 1: the guys that know it all, and I can't compare

3689
02:51:39,440 --> 02:51:41,160
Speaker 1: myself to them. Yeah, do you know what I mean?

3690
02:51:41,400 --> 02:51:44,039
Speaker 1: Because they're just too deep. They're too deep. They'll never

3691
02:51:44,120 --> 02:51:44,520
Speaker 1: catch them.

3692
02:51:44,760 --> 02:51:48,200
Speaker 4: So many like side categories. There's obviously, like hunting, right

3693
02:51:48,520 --> 02:51:50,440
Speaker 4: is just one thing and then there's all these different

3694
02:51:50,440 --> 02:51:53,520
Speaker 4: things that people can specialize in, finding these guys that

3695
02:51:53,680 --> 02:51:56,320
Speaker 4: just like sit out there, and the generations of all

3696
02:51:56,400 --> 02:51:58,720
Speaker 4: that is just it's just nuts to me. There's like

3697
02:51:58,800 --> 02:52:01,640
Speaker 4: you can never learn too much. Yeah, there's never an

3698
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:06,640
Speaker 4: end date, like you officially reached the pinnacle of the outdoors.

3699
02:52:07,080 --> 02:52:10,000
Speaker 1: There's like, there's this thing I found bouncing around the

3700
02:52:10,160 --> 02:52:14,080
Speaker 1: country that like an observation I've had is it doesn't

3701
02:52:14,080 --> 02:52:16,360
Speaker 1: matter anywhere you're going. Anywhere you go in the country,

3702
02:52:17,879 --> 02:52:20,040
Speaker 1: you could have two houses next to each other. Okay,

3703
02:52:20,200 --> 02:52:22,640
Speaker 1: anywhere you go in the country and there's two outdoorsmen

3704
02:52:22,680 --> 02:52:27,200
Speaker 1: they live next to each other. You can find the

3705
02:52:27,240 --> 02:52:31,000
Speaker 1: one guy in the house on the right who's like,

3706
02:52:31,320 --> 02:52:34,520
Speaker 1: everything's all fucked up. It used to be good, but

3707
02:52:34,640 --> 02:52:37,200
Speaker 1: all the spots are gone now, the woods is full

3708
02:52:37,240 --> 02:52:43,040
Speaker 1: of idiots. Everybody's out there, the fishing socks now, the

3709
02:52:43,120 --> 02:52:47,560
Speaker 1: Fish and Game Agency fucked everything up right right, and

3710
02:52:47,680 --> 02:52:52,240
Speaker 1: then the left house right next to him always as

3711
02:52:52,280 --> 02:52:55,959
Speaker 1: a dude's like, fuck, you can't even scratch the surface. Yeah,

3712
02:52:56,320 --> 02:52:59,600
Speaker 1: it's too good, there's too much to do, you know

3713
02:52:59,600 --> 02:53:03,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like everywhere you go, those two

3714
02:53:03,840 --> 02:53:07,080
Speaker 1: dudes everywhere you go, there's those two dudes, you know,

3715
02:53:07,320 --> 02:53:09,560
Speaker 1: And I just like the guy in the left house, better.

3716
02:53:09,440 --> 02:53:11,560
Speaker 2: Man that's ready to find the new pivot, find the

3717
02:53:11,640 --> 02:53:15,119
Speaker 2: new way to figure out. Excited man breaking break through

3718
02:53:15,120 --> 02:53:16,400
Speaker 2: another ceiling, can't.

3719
02:53:16,240 --> 02:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Scratch the surface, too much to do. It's like you

3720
02:53:19,280 --> 02:53:22,200
Speaker 1: always there's always those dudes, and I'm always like, I'd

3721
02:53:22,320 --> 02:53:24,920
Speaker 1: rather talk to that left hand, the left house guy

3722
02:53:25,120 --> 02:53:28,520
Speaker 1: that can't scratch the surface. And it's like there's that

3723
02:53:28,720 --> 02:53:31,560
Speaker 1: like infectiousness about it, you know, getting out.

3724
02:53:31,959 --> 02:53:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, sorry, I was gonna ask.

3725
02:53:36,200 --> 02:53:36,240
Speaker 1: You.

3726
02:53:36,400 --> 02:53:40,640
Speaker 2: Have you you speak to so many people that are

3727
02:53:40,760 --> 02:53:43,400
Speaker 2: both hunters and even non hunters because you have this

3728
02:53:43,920 --> 02:53:46,760
Speaker 2: this knowledge of with history and again you're able to

3729
02:53:46,800 --> 02:53:48,960
Speaker 2: weave all these things in that kind of kind of

3730
02:53:49,000 --> 02:53:52,080
Speaker 2: bring it relatable to everybody. So I want to put

3731
02:53:52,080 --> 02:53:56,680
Speaker 2: you in a situation where you're speaking to So let's

3732
02:53:56,720 --> 02:53:58,840
Speaker 2: just say guys like Tailor and myself, people that are

3733
02:53:58,920 --> 02:54:00,640
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, they flirt with hunting. They

3734
02:54:00,680 --> 02:54:03,320
Speaker 2: have kids. You know, we're both girl dads. You're very

3735
02:54:04,480 --> 02:54:06,480
Speaker 2: you're very adamant about getting your kids out the whole

3736
02:54:06,800 --> 02:54:09,560
Speaker 2: arena of consequences. And let's just say you're speaking to

3737
02:54:10,200 --> 02:54:12,680
Speaker 2: you're speaking to potential hunters, or you're speaking to hunters

3738
02:54:12,720 --> 02:54:14,280
Speaker 2: that just kind of dip in and they're wanting to

3739
02:54:14,360 --> 02:54:16,760
Speaker 2: learn about your philosophy of getting kids involved in getting

3740
02:54:16,760 --> 02:54:19,400
Speaker 2: in the outdoors. More Like, what would be kind of

3741
02:54:19,480 --> 02:54:22,720
Speaker 2: your general approach when speaking to a group like that,

3742
02:54:22,840 --> 02:54:25,440
Speaker 2: because again, I think you do a it's really cool

3743
02:54:25,480 --> 02:54:27,280
Speaker 2: to hear you talk about hunting in a way to

3744
02:54:27,320 --> 02:54:30,080
Speaker 2: where you know that you are immersed in it in

3745
02:54:30,160 --> 02:54:32,600
Speaker 2: such a way that is very intimidating and you feel

3746
02:54:32,640 --> 02:54:35,039
Speaker 2: like you can't belong, but you're also able to sit

3747
02:54:35,160 --> 02:54:37,480
Speaker 2: next to guys like us to where it it makes

3748
02:54:37,520 --> 02:54:39,320
Speaker 2: it seem so fun and that where you want to

3749
02:54:39,400 --> 02:54:40,160
Speaker 2: dive into a more.

3750
02:54:40,920 --> 02:54:47,440
Speaker 1: I I've developed a couple philosophies about with with families

3751
02:54:47,480 --> 02:54:49,880
Speaker 1: and getting kids outside. Is like, remember I was talking

3752
02:54:49,879 --> 02:54:54,119
Speaker 1: about in picking a career, it'd be that you get

3753
02:54:54,160 --> 02:54:57,360
Speaker 1: you got to either get where if you're trying to

3754
02:54:57,400 --> 02:55:00,400
Speaker 1: do a thing that's hard, you got to get where

3755
02:55:00,400 --> 02:55:03,280
Speaker 1: you're just gonna do it or die, you know what

3756
02:55:03,280 --> 02:55:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean? And I would would it would have a

3757
02:55:05,560 --> 02:55:10,880
Speaker 1: little kids. It's so hard to get out. It's like

3758
02:55:11,200 --> 02:55:13,760
Speaker 1: you go and you're like oh, there's like the snack

3759
02:55:13,879 --> 02:55:15,920
Speaker 1: shit and this one still wears diapers, you know what

3760
02:55:15,920 --> 02:55:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Like this one like take some weird ass

3761
02:55:20,280 --> 02:55:22,440
Speaker 1: nap in the middle of the day every day, I mean,

3762
02:55:22,520 --> 02:55:24,560
Speaker 1: and like at a point you just be like, well,

3763
02:55:24,680 --> 02:55:26,440
Speaker 1: just never mind, man, I'm not gonna do shit, and

3764
02:55:26,480 --> 02:55:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna become like a bitter dad who's like

3765
02:55:29,959 --> 02:55:32,240
Speaker 1: pissed at his kids because I can't go.

3766
02:55:32,680 --> 02:55:32,840
Speaker 2: You know.

3767
02:55:33,280 --> 02:55:35,640
Speaker 1: I'd be like I'm just gonna do that route and

3768
02:55:35,879 --> 02:55:38,440
Speaker 1: kind of resent my kids and kind of be shitty

3769
02:55:38,480 --> 02:55:41,280
Speaker 1: to my wife and just generally be pissed because now

3770
02:55:41,360 --> 02:55:44,800
Speaker 1: I can't live out my uh, I can't live out

3771
02:55:44,840 --> 02:55:48,360
Speaker 1: my passions, and I'm just like an old hasband dude.

3772
02:55:49,840 --> 02:55:52,040
Speaker 1: The amount of dudes that fall into that, you know,

3773
02:55:52,879 --> 02:55:57,480
Speaker 1: a lot, and I just didn't want to, Like I

3774
02:55:57,520 --> 02:56:01,560
Speaker 1: didn't want to do that, and so I just had it.

3775
02:56:01,959 --> 02:56:05,280
Speaker 1: I would set a goal even when they're little, like

3776
02:56:05,680 --> 02:56:07,959
Speaker 1: you know, with all that ship like diapers and all

3777
02:56:08,000 --> 02:56:11,560
Speaker 1: that garbage. I would I would set like a goal

3778
02:56:11,680 --> 02:56:15,080
Speaker 1: like we're gonna go today and we're gonna like I

3779
02:56:15,160 --> 02:56:18,039
Speaker 1: don't give a ship what happens. There's no way it's

3780
02:56:18,120 --> 02:56:21,960
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. We're gonna go fish, you know, and

3781
02:56:22,320 --> 02:56:24,400
Speaker 1: maybe we're gonna fish something that's not that exciting. We're

3782
02:56:24,400 --> 02:56:26,240
Speaker 1: gonna go catch some blue gills whatever. But like I

3783
02:56:26,320 --> 02:56:28,640
Speaker 1: don't give a ship, dude. If we don't fish, I'm

3784
02:56:28,640 --> 02:56:31,440
Speaker 1: gonna kill myself, you know.

3785
02:56:31,440 --> 02:56:31,800
Speaker 2: What I mean?

3786
02:56:31,879 --> 02:56:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I had like go at it like

3787
02:56:34,320 --> 02:56:37,640
Speaker 1: that with little ones, and I'll tell you here's the

3788
02:56:37,720 --> 02:56:40,600
Speaker 1: thing that I found, Like, well, there's there's there's two parts.

3789
02:56:40,600 --> 02:56:42,600
Speaker 1: Because this is the area that we that me and

3790
02:56:42,720 --> 02:56:46,200
Speaker 1: my wife agree on is we're not terribly interested with

3791
02:56:46,320 --> 02:56:48,800
Speaker 1: little kids. We're not like really interested in what they think.

3792
02:56:51,520 --> 02:56:53,440
Speaker 1: I don't really want to hear about. Like I'm not

3793
02:56:53,520 --> 02:56:56,680
Speaker 1: that interested in what they want to eat. Right, It's

3794
02:56:56,720 --> 02:56:59,480
Speaker 1: like you're gonna eat what we're having, and I'm not

3795
02:56:59,560 --> 02:57:03,160
Speaker 1: that int in On Saturday, we're going fishing. I don't

3796
02:57:03,160 --> 02:57:04,880
Speaker 1: want to go fishing. I was gonna go to Bobby's house.

3797
02:57:04,920 --> 02:57:07,800
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you're not going to Bobby's. We're going

3798
02:57:07,879 --> 02:57:13,440
Speaker 1: doing that. Like you live in our house and we'll

3799
02:57:13,520 --> 02:57:15,840
Speaker 1: lean your way a lot, but in a lot of ways,

3800
02:57:15,879 --> 02:57:19,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna lean our way and you're gonna do the

3801
02:57:19,160 --> 02:57:20,440
Speaker 1: things we're gonna do because I think that one of

3802
02:57:20,480 --> 02:57:23,080
Speaker 1: the most important things you can demonstrate to your kids

3803
02:57:24,200 --> 02:57:28,120
Speaker 1: is like demonstrate to them what it's like to be

3804
02:57:28,240 --> 02:57:33,039
Speaker 1: passionate about something. You know, like if everything, if all

3805
02:57:33,120 --> 02:57:35,000
Speaker 1: you ever can bring to the table for your kids

3806
02:57:35,120 --> 02:57:39,680
Speaker 1: is just like this kind of like ambivalence, passivity. Well,

3807
02:57:39,680 --> 02:57:41,320
Speaker 1: I guess we'll go down to the park, because what

3808
02:57:41,400 --> 02:57:44,480
Speaker 1: else you supposed to do with a kid later on?

3809
02:57:44,640 --> 02:57:48,600
Speaker 1: Like what is their impression about how you later on

3810
02:57:48,720 --> 02:57:51,560
Speaker 1: when they're grown up and they're thinking about it, Like

3811
02:57:51,640 --> 02:57:54,440
Speaker 1: what is their impression about how you engage with the world?

3812
02:57:55,480 --> 02:57:55,640
Speaker 2: You know?

3813
02:57:56,480 --> 02:57:58,760
Speaker 1: Even if my kids and they probably won't, I don't know.

3814
02:57:59,120 --> 02:58:00,680
Speaker 1: I remember someone saying that. Or if your kids don't

3815
02:58:00,720 --> 02:58:02,400
Speaker 1: like the hunting fish as much as you do, I'm like,

3816
02:58:02,520 --> 02:58:07,960
Speaker 1: not many people do. Man, Whatever that happens to them,

3817
02:58:08,000 --> 02:58:11,160
Speaker 1: if they don't go at all, they will when they're

3818
02:58:11,240 --> 02:58:13,920
Speaker 1: when I'm dead and they're sitting around with their spouses

3819
02:58:13,959 --> 02:58:16,440
Speaker 1: and they're like goofing on their dad, remembering their dad,

3820
02:58:16,480 --> 02:58:20,440
Speaker 1: They're gonna remember someone who was fucking on it, do

3821
02:58:20,480 --> 02:58:25,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Who was like driving hard.

3822
02:58:25,959 --> 02:58:28,520
Speaker 1: And they maybe won't like it, but they'll later they'll

3823
02:58:28,600 --> 02:58:33,080
Speaker 1: laugh about it, and they'll probably uh begrudgingly, they'll be like, yeah,

3824
02:58:33,120 --> 02:58:37,520
Speaker 1: I learned some shit from that, you know, and it'll

3825
02:58:37,560 --> 02:58:40,760
Speaker 1: be that like what you're gonna do, like be fucking tenacious.

3826
02:58:42,240 --> 02:58:45,920
Speaker 1: And so it's not to me like getting them into

3827
02:58:45,959 --> 02:58:50,960
Speaker 1: the outdoors is it's like selfish because that's what I

3828
02:58:51,040 --> 02:58:54,240
Speaker 1: want to do. But it's also it's also like, well,

3829
02:58:54,360 --> 02:58:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm showing them what it's like to care about something,

3830
02:58:57,720 --> 02:58:59,520
Speaker 1: what it's like to try to excel at it, what

3831
02:58:59,600 --> 02:59:01,400
Speaker 1: it's like to try to like be in it, what

3832
02:59:01,520 --> 02:59:04,360
Speaker 1: it's like to try to do hard little goals, you know,

3833
02:59:05,320 --> 02:59:07,960
Speaker 1: and uh, and it's not just to make them be

3834
02:59:08,440 --> 02:59:12,440
Speaker 1: outdoors people. It's just to have them see that like

3835
02:59:12,560 --> 02:59:14,959
Speaker 1: that you can that it's good to go through life

3836
02:59:16,840 --> 02:59:21,160
Speaker 1: fired up, you know, to be like this is fucking

3837
02:59:21,280 --> 02:59:25,520
Speaker 1: we're going man, Yeah it's windy, it's fucking cold, let's go.

3838
02:59:25,879 --> 02:59:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I love that because I think in

3839
02:59:29,120 --> 02:59:30,880
Speaker 2: a way, like whether or not they picked it up,

3840
02:59:31,840 --> 02:59:34,640
Speaker 2: they're about it later in life or when you're still around,

3841
02:59:34,760 --> 02:59:37,440
Speaker 2: but the moment that they start to have families themselves

3842
02:59:37,520 --> 02:59:39,800
Speaker 2: and think about it or if you you know, unfortunately

3843
02:59:39,840 --> 02:59:42,720
Speaker 2: weren't around anymore and you're able to recall things like

3844
02:59:42,879 --> 02:59:45,840
Speaker 2: ultimately you would bring they will be bringing that into

3845
02:59:46,120 --> 02:59:48,440
Speaker 2: their world because they're going to actually start to remember.

3846
02:59:48,440 --> 02:59:50,760
Speaker 2: It's like all the things we resent about or you

3847
02:59:50,879 --> 02:59:52,840
Speaker 2: get we would get upset about with our parents, and

3848
02:59:52,879 --> 02:59:54,840
Speaker 2: then you look back on things that they did and

3849
02:59:54,879 --> 02:59:56,600
Speaker 2: it's like, well, this is why they did they did this,

3850
02:59:56,680 --> 02:59:58,320
Speaker 2: and then it starts to come out through you now

3851
02:59:58,360 --> 03:00:00,720
Speaker 2: that we have families. I love that interesting.

3852
03:00:00,760 --> 03:00:02,280
Speaker 4: How parents will be like, you don't like this now,

3853
03:00:02,320 --> 03:00:04,400
Speaker 4: but you're going to appreciate it later, I say to

3854
03:00:04,400 --> 03:00:05,760
Speaker 4: you when you're a kid, and then you actually sit

3855
03:00:05,840 --> 03:00:07,800
Speaker 4: back and like, yo, I actually I really do appreciate

3856
03:00:07,840 --> 03:00:10,560
Speaker 4: it because it's very difficult. I have a seven and

3857
03:00:10,600 --> 03:00:12,960
Speaker 4: a four year old, and I want so badly to

3858
03:00:13,000 --> 03:00:14,240
Speaker 4: be a place where they can come and talk to

3859
03:00:14,280 --> 03:00:16,160
Speaker 4: me about things, where they can just say, well, how

3860
03:00:16,160 --> 03:00:17,880
Speaker 4: are you emotionally feeling? How do we work through it?

3861
03:00:18,240 --> 03:00:21,120
Speaker 4: What's the process of communication so that you don't just

3862
03:00:21,280 --> 03:00:23,480
Speaker 4: lose a gasket every single time you're mad about something

3863
03:00:23,520 --> 03:00:25,120
Speaker 4: like how do you process it in your mind and

3864
03:00:25,200 --> 03:00:27,360
Speaker 4: have an ability to talk about it? But then it's

3865
03:00:27,400 --> 03:00:32,440
Speaker 4: like I worry because I was successful and my kids

3866
03:00:32,520 --> 03:00:35,480
Speaker 4: live a much better life than I did growing up.

3867
03:00:35,920 --> 03:00:38,000
Speaker 4: And it's like, hey, how do I stop? How do

3868
03:00:38,120 --> 03:00:40,880
Speaker 4: I one make sure they have work ethic and then

3869
03:00:40,920 --> 03:00:41,760
Speaker 4: in a passion.

3870
03:00:41,480 --> 03:00:42,240
Speaker 2: In whatever they're doing.

3871
03:00:43,080 --> 03:00:44,840
Speaker 4: And I think the answer you gave it is the

3872
03:00:44,879 --> 03:00:48,640
Speaker 4: correct one, which is show them, like show them every day.

3873
03:00:48,959 --> 03:00:51,560
Speaker 4: Like the reason why your dat is successful is because

3874
03:00:51,560 --> 03:00:53,959
Speaker 4: of X, Y and Z. The reason why he has

3875
03:00:54,000 --> 03:00:55,680
Speaker 4: a hard work at this because he's passionate about the

3876
03:00:55,680 --> 03:00:56,640
Speaker 4: things he's working towards.

3877
03:00:56,720 --> 03:00:56,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

3878
03:00:57,360 --> 03:00:59,199
Speaker 4: And you just show him that over and over again

3879
03:00:59,320 --> 03:01:01,640
Speaker 4: eventually there and be like, Okay, I want to succeed

3880
03:01:01,640 --> 03:01:03,840
Speaker 4: in these things, Well, how would I do that? Well,

3881
03:01:03,879 --> 03:01:06,160
Speaker 4: my dad's successful. He did X, Y, and Z, and

3882
03:01:06,200 --> 03:01:08,720
Speaker 4: they can always lean back on that. So it's a

3883
03:01:08,840 --> 03:01:11,200
Speaker 4: very it's a difficult thing because I've been around. I

3884
03:01:11,280 --> 03:01:13,000
Speaker 4: went to I went to high school. My senior year,

3885
03:01:13,000 --> 03:01:15,440
Speaker 4: I transferred down to Scott's to Arizona. It's a very

3886
03:01:15,600 --> 03:01:18,560
Speaker 4: rich area of Arizona, and all these kids are driving,

3887
03:01:18,640 --> 03:01:21,120
Speaker 4: you know, the nicest cars and live in the nicest houses.

3888
03:01:21,600 --> 03:01:23,440
Speaker 4: And you see them like ten fifteen years later, and

3889
03:01:23,480 --> 03:01:25,720
Speaker 4: none of these kids have drive because they've been given

3890
03:01:25,760 --> 03:01:28,680
Speaker 4: everything their entire lives. So it's just like I sit

3891
03:01:28,760 --> 03:01:30,480
Speaker 4: back as a father of two young kids, and I'm like,

3892
03:01:30,640 --> 03:01:31,800
Speaker 4: how do I make sure that.

3893
03:01:31,920 --> 03:01:34,440
Speaker 1: Does not happen to fear? My kids?

3894
03:01:34,560 --> 03:01:34,720
Speaker 2: Have it?

3895
03:01:35,040 --> 03:01:35,400
Speaker 1: Gravy?

3896
03:01:35,760 --> 03:01:36,000
Speaker 11: You have?

3897
03:01:36,320 --> 03:01:39,440
Speaker 4: You have, You've established something incredible, like you've trail blazed

3898
03:01:39,480 --> 03:01:41,840
Speaker 4: an area that you know, for a lot of times

3899
03:01:41,959 --> 03:01:43,840
Speaker 4: only like a niche group knew about, and you're making

3900
03:01:43,879 --> 03:01:46,720
Speaker 4: it a mainstream thing. And so yeah, you you you

3901
03:01:46,840 --> 03:01:48,920
Speaker 4: might run into that. It sounds actually you're not going

3902
03:01:48,959 --> 03:01:50,200
Speaker 4: to run into that. I heard the way you talk

3903
03:01:50,240 --> 03:01:52,360
Speaker 4: about your kids, like your kids are gonna be just fine.

3904
03:01:52,720 --> 03:01:53,520
Speaker 4: It's from a tough.

3905
03:01:55,000 --> 03:01:57,520
Speaker 2: There's always a fear about the definition of storytelling. Like

3906
03:01:57,640 --> 03:02:00,640
Speaker 2: somebody wants something, there's going to be obstacles. Some might

3907
03:02:00,760 --> 03:02:03,920
Speaker 2: have many more obstacles. But if they're able to if

3908
03:02:03,959 --> 03:02:05,760
Speaker 2: they have moments to where we're wanting to show our

3909
03:02:05,840 --> 03:02:08,400
Speaker 2: kids something and maybe they're in college and we feel

3910
03:02:08,400 --> 03:02:10,440
Speaker 2: like they just haven't gotten it and we've done everything

3911
03:02:10,520 --> 03:02:13,080
Speaker 2: that we can, if they're going to overcome whatever that

3912
03:02:13,200 --> 03:02:15,520
Speaker 2: final obstacle is, they would have to look at themselves

3913
03:02:15,560 --> 03:02:19,360
Speaker 2: so closely to where you almost do appreciate You're like,

3914
03:02:19,440 --> 03:02:21,360
Speaker 2: you know what Dad is right. I'm never going to

3915
03:02:21,400 --> 03:02:23,400
Speaker 2: tell them, But if I want to get this thing,

3916
03:02:23,760 --> 03:02:26,000
Speaker 2: I have to come over this obstacle that ultimately I'm

3917
03:02:26,040 --> 03:02:28,240
Speaker 2: just standing in front of my own way. So no

3918
03:02:28,360 --> 03:02:30,320
Speaker 2: matter how it comes out, whether it's early in life

3919
03:02:30,400 --> 03:02:33,600
Speaker 2: or later in life, I do think it comes out

3920
03:02:33,600 --> 03:02:36,160
Speaker 2: at some point no matter what. And sometimes it's you know,

3921
03:02:36,240 --> 03:02:38,920
Speaker 2: when mom and dad might pass and then you're reflecting

3922
03:02:38,959 --> 03:02:41,000
Speaker 2: you're in a different state of mind. Sometimes it's when

3923
03:02:41,080 --> 03:02:43,160
Speaker 2: parents are a life. Sometimes you're getting out of college

3924
03:02:43,200 --> 03:02:45,720
Speaker 2: and everything structurally has happened the right way to where

3925
03:02:45,720 --> 03:02:47,680
Speaker 2: they kind of have that driving passion. But no matter what,

3926
03:02:48,280 --> 03:02:51,520
Speaker 2: I think it'll trickle out at some point along the road.

3927
03:02:51,600 --> 03:02:54,400
Speaker 4: And it's like also like seeing the adversities they're going through,

3928
03:02:54,520 --> 03:02:56,440
Speaker 4: knowing in your head like this is not a big

3929
03:02:56,480 --> 03:02:58,640
Speaker 4: deal and you know that, but it's like, what do

3930
03:02:58,800 --> 03:03:01,880
Speaker 4: I essentially that back and say you work through this,

3931
03:03:02,640 --> 03:03:03,640
Speaker 4: you have the tools to do it.

3932
03:03:03,720 --> 03:03:05,120
Speaker 2: And then at what point do I.

3933
03:03:05,160 --> 03:03:08,760
Speaker 4: Go, Okay, I need to intervene here because I want

3934
03:03:08,800 --> 03:03:10,680
Speaker 4: to make sure that I can see the path they're going,

3935
03:03:11,040 --> 03:03:12,800
Speaker 4: and if they go that way, it's just they're either

3936
03:03:12,840 --> 03:03:14,959
Speaker 4: going to get in trouble or you know, not handle

3937
03:03:14,959 --> 03:03:17,320
Speaker 4: it the correct way. So it's such a it's a

3938
03:03:17,400 --> 03:03:20,360
Speaker 4: finesse game with kids, ma'am. And I don't necessarily love

3939
03:03:20,400 --> 03:03:22,000
Speaker 4: the word finesse, but it really is like.

3940
03:03:24,200 --> 03:03:28,280
Speaker 1: Finassy. You don't know what sounds melodramatic, but like I

3941
03:03:28,360 --> 03:03:30,600
Speaker 1: think about it, I guess because I think about it,

3942
03:03:30,640 --> 03:03:32,960
Speaker 1: I'll just share it. Even though it sounds melodramatic and

3943
03:03:33,080 --> 03:03:36,959
Speaker 1: kind of simplistic, Like I always picture, let's say your

3944
03:03:37,040 --> 03:03:40,720
Speaker 1: kid is like your kid gets older and they and

3945
03:03:40,800 --> 03:03:43,640
Speaker 1: there's like a fucking car crash right and there's like

3946
03:03:43,760 --> 03:03:46,080
Speaker 1: a car rolls over and it's on fire, and there's

3947
03:03:46,120 --> 03:03:48,120
Speaker 1: like a person that needs to be pulled for you

3948
03:03:48,160 --> 03:03:51,360
Speaker 1: of the car right with the car could blow up,

3949
03:03:52,080 --> 03:03:52,280
Speaker 1: you know.

3950
03:03:52,240 --> 03:03:52,560
Speaker 6: What I mean?

3951
03:03:52,760 --> 03:03:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you always be like, will my kid be the

3952
03:03:56,280 --> 03:03:58,360
Speaker 1: what would my kid be the one that runs over

3953
03:03:58,400 --> 03:03:59,240
Speaker 1: and drags them clear?

3954
03:04:00,280 --> 03:04:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

3955
03:04:00,760 --> 03:04:02,840
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? And like it sounds

3956
03:04:02,879 --> 03:04:06,000
Speaker 1: so like it sounds so melodramatic and like fantastical, but

3957
03:04:06,040 --> 03:04:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm always like when I think about little things and

3958
03:04:08,600 --> 03:04:11,280
Speaker 1: bringing them up, it's like I want, how do you

3959
03:04:11,440 --> 03:04:15,480
Speaker 1: kind of from the ground up make the one to

3960
03:04:15,760 --> 03:04:17,440
Speaker 1: be like fuck, I don't want to do it, but

3961
03:04:17,480 --> 03:04:20,080
Speaker 1: I'll do it right, I'll go drag them clear?

3962
03:04:20,200 --> 03:04:22,480
Speaker 2: There have a selfless act of like.

3963
03:04:25,320 --> 03:04:26,640
Speaker 1: And it's like a lot of things. It's like how

3964
03:04:26,680 --> 03:04:28,520
Speaker 1: do you, how do you do you? How do you

3965
03:04:28,640 --> 03:04:29,800
Speaker 1: view other humans?

3966
03:04:29,879 --> 03:04:29,920
Speaker 2: Like?

3967
03:04:30,000 --> 03:04:30,280
Speaker 6: What do you?

3968
03:04:30,360 --> 03:04:33,040
Speaker 1: What are your obligations to people? What's your obligation to

3969
03:04:33,080 --> 03:04:33,640
Speaker 1: your family?

3970
03:04:33,920 --> 03:04:33,960
Speaker 2: Like?

3971
03:04:34,120 --> 03:04:37,000
Speaker 1: Are you act first? Are do you have it in

3972
03:04:37,080 --> 03:04:37,680
Speaker 1: you to act?

3973
03:04:38,680 --> 03:04:38,760
Speaker 4: Do you?

3974
03:04:38,879 --> 03:04:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean like, are you willing to like do ship

3975
03:04:41,320 --> 03:04:43,000
Speaker 1: you don't want to do? Or you know, are you

3976
03:04:43,200 --> 03:04:46,240
Speaker 1: willing to like court a little danger and have a

3977
03:04:46,280 --> 03:04:48,680
Speaker 1: little risk? Right? And so I'm always I kind of

3978
03:04:48,680 --> 03:04:51,280
Speaker 1: look at like would this make it more likely that

3979
03:04:51,400 --> 03:04:54,800
Speaker 1: they would go and drag someone clear for burning? I

3980
03:04:54,959 --> 03:04:57,320
Speaker 1: love that most extreme version.

3981
03:04:57,640 --> 03:04:59,720
Speaker 2: I know, we gotta wrap up something, but I'm a

3982
03:05:00,240 --> 03:05:04,320
Speaker 2: it's brought to us by bud light. People. People will

3983
03:05:04,360 --> 03:05:06,880
Speaker 2: do Are you talking about this one? Well, I'll on

3984
03:05:06,959 --> 03:05:09,879
Speaker 2: we gotta like ten minutes. Yeah, people will do anything

3985
03:05:10,000 --> 03:05:12,520
Speaker 2: for a bud light. That's something that you would do

3986
03:05:13,040 --> 03:05:16,120
Speaker 2: anything for. It. Is there some big game out there

3987
03:05:16,160 --> 03:05:18,960
Speaker 2: that you haven't yet conquered? What is something that you

3988
03:05:19,000 --> 03:05:19,920
Speaker 2: would do anything for?

3989
03:05:24,280 --> 03:05:34,200
Speaker 1: Man, there's a well, yeah, I'll tell you there's a

3990
03:05:37,600 --> 03:05:40,200
Speaker 1: there's a documentary thing I want. There's a documentary I

3991
03:05:40,280 --> 03:05:42,040
Speaker 1: want to make. I don't want. I'm not gonna tell

3992
03:05:42,040 --> 03:05:43,920
Speaker 1: you what it is. There's a documentary I want to

3993
03:05:44,040 --> 03:05:45,800
Speaker 1: that I want to make, and it doesn't it makes

3994
03:05:45,879 --> 03:05:51,199
Speaker 1: no sense. And but if I don't, there's a subject

3995
03:05:51,280 --> 03:05:53,280
Speaker 1: I want to take on in a documentary. And if

3996
03:05:53,320 --> 03:05:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't get to taken on in my life in

3997
03:05:55,280 --> 03:05:58,680
Speaker 1: a documentary form, my wife will have been a failure.

3998
03:06:00,080 --> 03:06:03,080
Speaker 2: Holy Ship, you can't give concept everything. You can't.

3999
03:06:05,360 --> 03:06:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know he's got to keep I'll tell

4000
03:06:10,920 --> 03:06:12,400
Speaker 1: you about it. And you're gonna try to act like

4001
03:06:12,560 --> 03:06:19,240
Speaker 1: you think it's interesting because you're polite, But dude, it's

4002
03:06:19,320 --> 03:06:22,000
Speaker 1: like I would Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, like

4003
03:06:22,040 --> 03:06:23,400
Speaker 1: a cheap shot. I was gonna be like, I'll do

4004
03:06:23,440 --> 03:06:28,160
Speaker 1: anything for my wife. But no, Like, there's like, there's

4005
03:06:28,200 --> 03:06:30,160
Speaker 1: a thing I want to there's a thing I want

4006
03:06:30,200 --> 03:06:32,039
Speaker 1: to make. It doesn't make a terrible lot of sense,

4007
03:06:32,200 --> 03:06:33,840
Speaker 1: and like, I don't even at this point, I don't

4008
03:06:33,840 --> 03:06:35,560
Speaker 1: even give a ship if anybody watches it or not.

4009
03:06:36,120 --> 03:06:38,119
Speaker 1: But it's so fascinating. I have to find a way

4010
03:06:38,160 --> 03:06:40,039
Speaker 1: to do it. I love that there's not a Day

4011
03:06:40,120 --> 03:06:43,160
Speaker 1: goes By. I'm not giving you da goes By. I

4012
03:06:43,200 --> 03:06:44,680
Speaker 1: don't think about how I want to make a film

4013
03:06:44,720 --> 03:06:45,880
Speaker 1: about it. I love it.

4014
03:06:46,320 --> 03:06:48,360
Speaker 2: People have great lengths to get a bud light. I

4015
03:06:48,480 --> 03:06:51,720
Speaker 2: love that you're going you'll go to any measure across

4016
03:06:51,760 --> 03:06:52,800
Speaker 2: the world to make sure that this.

4017
03:06:54,440 --> 03:06:57,760
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, will Yeah, I'll be like and just

4018
03:06:57,879 --> 03:06:59,680
Speaker 1: bring me. I'm sure they make one. They need to

4019
03:06:59,680 --> 03:07:01,959
Speaker 1: bring me n a Yeah, yeah.

4020
03:07:02,800 --> 03:07:05,400
Speaker 2: Got a couple. Yeah, I actually want to start up

4021
03:07:05,400 --> 03:07:05,840
Speaker 2: your company.

4022
03:07:06,000 --> 03:07:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

4023
03:07:07,120 --> 03:07:09,120
Speaker 2: My old man, he's a he's a drinker.

4024
03:07:09,200 --> 03:07:14,280
Speaker 1: But na yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll kick back of

4025
03:07:14,280 --> 03:07:15,680
Speaker 1: the old man. But you know what, I'm going to

4026
03:07:15,720 --> 03:07:17,600
Speaker 1: turn him on Too's gonna turn him on to taking

4027
03:07:17,680 --> 03:07:21,360
Speaker 1: that the butt an a and mixing in a little

4028
03:07:21,680 --> 03:07:23,199
Speaker 1: zing zang bloody marry mix.

4029
03:07:23,600 --> 03:07:28,840
Speaker 2: Okay, little cocktail. You know what it is.

4030
03:07:28,959 --> 03:07:32,600
Speaker 1: It's like because when you quit drinking, it's hard to

4031
03:07:32,879 --> 03:07:36,959
Speaker 1: like at night, if you're hanging out and other people

4032
03:07:36,959 --> 03:07:40,800
Speaker 1: are drinking, it's like you can't just drink water because

4033
03:07:40,800 --> 03:07:43,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't like. But you take that really spicy bloody

4034
03:07:43,600 --> 03:07:44,959
Speaker 1: this is a chip. This is a tip for people

4035
03:07:44,959 --> 03:07:47,960
Speaker 1: who quit drinking. Take an n a beer and then

4036
03:07:48,040 --> 03:07:50,720
Speaker 1: you put really spicy, bloody marry mix in the n

4037
03:07:50,800 --> 03:07:52,440
Speaker 1: a beer and you drink it and it's got like

4038
03:07:52,440 --> 03:07:56,360
Speaker 1: a little burn to it, scratches the edge something, scratch

4039
03:07:56,520 --> 03:07:56,760
Speaker 1: the itch.

4040
03:07:57,360 --> 03:07:59,000
Speaker 2: It helps you get everybody.

4041
03:07:59,200 --> 03:08:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wasn't like that kind of drinker. I

4042
03:08:01,080 --> 03:08:03,280
Speaker 1: wasn't like a you know, I wasn't like an AA guy.

4043
03:08:03,440 --> 03:08:05,760
Speaker 1: I was just I just drank too much and wanted

4044
03:08:05,760 --> 03:08:10,959
Speaker 1: to quit and gradually quit. But uh, yeah, that little

4045
03:08:11,280 --> 03:08:13,720
Speaker 1: you need, that little burn I find, and that little

4046
03:08:13,800 --> 03:08:16,080
Speaker 1: burn kind of your your body is like, ah, there

4047
03:08:16,120 --> 03:08:18,920
Speaker 1: it is all right. It's just tomato with Jesus black pepper.

4048
03:08:20,520 --> 03:08:21,360
Speaker 2: Yah, I love it.

4049
03:08:21,520 --> 03:08:25,160
Speaker 4: I did want to ask before you go being a conservationalist,

4050
03:08:25,240 --> 03:08:27,000
Speaker 4: being like someone who's in the outdoors all the time.

4051
03:08:27,560 --> 03:08:29,680
Speaker 4: There's been like a lot of stuff like obviously I

4052
03:08:29,720 --> 03:08:32,879
Speaker 4: don't we're not a political podcast. I really want your

4053
03:08:33,000 --> 03:08:35,160
Speaker 4: thought process on this. I'm not trying to make this anyway.

4054
03:08:35,440 --> 03:08:38,480
Speaker 4: And we kind of touched on it yesterday. But there's

4055
03:08:38,480 --> 03:08:41,080
Speaker 4: obviously all this this tariff stuff going on with Canada

4056
03:08:41,200 --> 03:08:44,480
Speaker 4: and all the wood and everything, and so Trump's now

4057
03:08:44,600 --> 03:08:46,680
Speaker 4: put done this executive order saying and I don't know

4058
03:08:46,760 --> 03:08:49,600
Speaker 4: the full detail. So there's so many different news articles

4059
03:08:49,640 --> 03:08:51,360
Speaker 4: that say he's it's a terrible thing. It's a great thing.

4060
03:08:51,879 --> 03:08:54,000
Speaker 4: But he's like signed this executive order that says that

4061
03:08:54,480 --> 03:08:57,400
Speaker 4: we have all this wood, like three hundred million hectors

4062
03:08:57,480 --> 03:08:59,279
Speaker 4: of land.

4063
03:08:59,120 --> 03:09:01,440
Speaker 1: That you can he didn't, you did it? Hitting the

4064
03:09:01,560 --> 03:09:03,959
Speaker 1: National Forest hard, right and hard to.

4065
03:09:04,080 --> 03:09:06,680
Speaker 4: Essentially be like we don't need Canada because we have

4066
03:09:06,800 --> 03:09:09,600
Speaker 4: the resources. But the resources is like thirty three percent

4067
03:09:09,840 --> 03:09:12,840
Speaker 4: of our wooded resources. Some people have broken down to me,

4068
03:09:13,000 --> 03:09:15,080
Speaker 4: like you need like ten years for treat to mature,

4069
03:09:15,120 --> 03:09:17,160
Speaker 4: and the longer they mature, the better the wood is,

4070
03:09:17,240 --> 03:09:20,840
Speaker 4: makes better the homes, makes better quality. So you being

4071
03:09:20,879 --> 03:09:22,880
Speaker 4: in your world that you are, I just want to know,

4072
03:09:24,000 --> 03:09:26,920
Speaker 4: is this like a detrimental thing to America? Is it actually, Hey,

4073
03:09:27,000 --> 03:09:28,520
Speaker 4: there's a lot of things we can really clean up

4074
03:09:28,520 --> 03:09:31,000
Speaker 4: in America from a wooded area standpoint, Because it's like

4075
03:09:31,320 --> 03:09:34,520
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to understand that this little game of

4076
03:09:34,640 --> 03:09:38,360
Speaker 4: chess that's going on between our northern neighbors and US.

4077
03:09:38,640 --> 03:09:40,040
Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple I'll give you like a

4078
03:09:40,080 --> 03:09:44,279
Speaker 1: little high level, my kind of high level thought process

4079
03:09:44,360 --> 03:09:49,920
Speaker 1: on it, and it's it's it's quite it's much more

4080
03:09:49,959 --> 03:09:57,520
Speaker 1: complicated than good bad. Yes, no, we need just like

4081
03:09:57,879 --> 03:09:59,959
Speaker 1: first off, I'm gonna clarify, I'm coming at the street

4082
03:10:00,240 --> 03:10:05,160
Speaker 1: from like wildlife habitat and like an environmental wildlife habitat perspective.

4083
03:10:05,400 --> 03:10:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't have the home builders wood market right,

4084
03:10:10,280 --> 03:10:12,920
Speaker 1: see at the table, right, I'm like the wildlife habitat guy.

4085
03:10:14,160 --> 03:10:19,120
Speaker 1: There is a lot of stuff that needs to be cut,

4086
03:10:19,440 --> 03:10:21,960
Speaker 1: and we need to have active timber management. And when

4087
03:10:22,000 --> 03:10:25,400
Speaker 1: a lot of places we've neglected timber management and it's

4088
03:10:25,520 --> 03:10:30,680
Speaker 1: detrimental to habitat. A healthy forest, Like if you go

4089
03:10:30,760 --> 03:10:33,520
Speaker 1: across most of the country, a healthy forest is a

4090
03:10:33,680 --> 03:10:40,840
Speaker 1: mosaic of stuff that was just recently burned or recently cut,

4091
03:10:41,280 --> 03:10:43,680
Speaker 1: whether from lightning strike, fires or whatever. So it's like

4092
03:10:44,280 --> 03:10:50,000
Speaker 1: new growth, medium growth, old growth. Right. You need it

4093
03:10:50,160 --> 03:10:54,000
Speaker 1: all because you want to create habitats to have all

4094
03:10:54,120 --> 03:10:57,120
Speaker 1: these different offerings, and you want to create habitats with

4095
03:10:57,160 --> 03:11:01,360
Speaker 1: a lot of edges, right, meaning like open areas that

4096
03:11:01,560 --> 03:11:05,520
Speaker 1: a butt brushy, areas that abut mature stands, because that

4097
03:11:05,800 --> 03:11:08,560
Speaker 1: way there's a lot more going on. I'm trying speaking

4098
03:11:08,600 --> 03:11:11,200
Speaker 1: very general terms. There's a lot more going on ecologically,

4099
03:11:12,720 --> 03:11:17,800
Speaker 1: greater diversity of plants, greater diversity of like of stages

4100
03:11:17,879 --> 03:11:20,200
Speaker 1: of growth. So you have things that are big old

4101
03:11:20,320 --> 03:11:24,320
Speaker 1: trees that are producing masts that like producing acorns, beech nuts,

4102
03:11:24,400 --> 03:11:27,400
Speaker 1: whatever from old trees, young trees that have new growth

4103
03:11:27,480 --> 03:11:29,280
Speaker 1: on them, and that's good for food. You have little

4104
03:11:29,320 --> 03:11:33,600
Speaker 1: thickets for stuff that likes thickets. Right, So you want

4105
03:11:33,640 --> 03:11:37,400
Speaker 1: a mixed ecosystem if we leave everything alone and don't

4106
03:11:37,440 --> 03:11:43,640
Speaker 1: do active land management because the natural processes aren't there anymore,

4107
03:11:43,680 --> 03:11:45,800
Speaker 1: like we just don't have We can't just let fires rip,

4108
03:11:45,920 --> 03:11:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, because it destroys property and things and other issues.

4109
03:11:49,600 --> 03:11:51,800
Speaker 1: You got to kind of do a man made version

4110
03:11:51,920 --> 03:11:55,040
Speaker 1: of how to create these mixed ecosystems. So there's a

4111
03:11:55,240 --> 03:12:00,880
Speaker 1: place for logging. Done right, it can be very advantageous

4112
03:12:00,879 --> 03:12:03,640
Speaker 1: for wildlife in the right areas. What I don't like.

4113
03:12:05,240 --> 03:12:05,560
Speaker 2: Is UH.

4114
03:12:09,440 --> 03:12:16,600
Speaker 1: I can't support and I can't get behind building new infrastructure,

4115
03:12:16,920 --> 03:12:21,280
Speaker 1: building new roads into our into our wilderness areas. And

4116
03:12:21,440 --> 03:12:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't mean designated wilderness areas, but areas that are

4117
03:12:24,040 --> 03:12:30,520
Speaker 1: like UH that are industrialized, like land natural landscapes that

4118
03:12:30,680 --> 03:12:33,840
Speaker 1: don't have infrastructure in place, that don't have roads built

4119
03:12:33,879 --> 03:12:37,880
Speaker 1: into them. I cannot support a plan to go into

4120
03:12:37,959 --> 03:12:40,840
Speaker 1: those areas and build new roads in order to harvest

4121
03:12:40,920 --> 03:12:45,879
Speaker 1: old growth timber. Why is why is that like we're

4122
03:12:45,920 --> 03:12:48,080
Speaker 1: just gonna we're we're gonna run out of it. Yeah,

4123
03:12:48,360 --> 03:12:51,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna run out of it. There's like a deal.

4124
03:12:51,680 --> 03:12:54,200
Speaker 1: There's always a deal with the devil that you make

4125
03:12:54,280 --> 03:12:57,920
Speaker 1: on this stuff. You mentioned wife being from British Columbia.

4126
03:13:01,800 --> 03:13:05,200
Speaker 1: Canada has you know, Canada has a reputation, like a

4127
03:13:05,240 --> 03:13:07,920
Speaker 1: little bit of some people hold Canada's a reputation of

4128
03:13:08,000 --> 03:13:13,560
Speaker 1: having this stellar environmental record in some ways, like the US,

4129
03:13:13,800 --> 03:13:16,240
Speaker 1: we've been able to hang on to our old growth

4130
03:13:16,959 --> 03:13:20,680
Speaker 1: coastal rainforests, which you know, there's not that much left

4131
03:13:21,480 --> 03:13:24,240
Speaker 1: old growth coastal rainforest, and we've kind of looked and

4132
03:13:25,520 --> 03:13:27,320
Speaker 1: guys in my world will look and be like, man,

4133
03:13:27,360 --> 03:13:36,439
Speaker 1: I can't believe be WAYBC British Columbia has just maintained

4134
03:13:36,760 --> 03:13:40,160
Speaker 1: openness to just keep whacking away at it. And it

4135
03:13:40,240 --> 03:13:41,640
Speaker 1: was kind of like, man, they're gonna cut it till

4136
03:13:41,640 --> 03:13:46,000
Speaker 1: it's gone, right, And meanwhile, we got a lot of

4137
03:13:46,080 --> 03:13:49,200
Speaker 1: coastal old growth rainforests. Like I mentioned, I have a

4138
03:13:49,240 --> 03:13:50,760
Speaker 1: fish shack. Like I have a fish shack, and like

4139
03:13:50,920 --> 03:13:54,640
Speaker 1: ground zero of this shit Tongus National Forest surrounded by

4140
03:13:54,680 --> 03:13:59,200
Speaker 1: Tongus National Forest. It's a perennial like, you know, like

4141
03:13:59,240 --> 03:14:02,440
Speaker 1: political ping back and forth as whether or not to

4142
03:14:02,520 --> 03:14:05,640
Speaker 1: build a bunch of new roads in tongest National Forests

4143
03:14:05,640 --> 03:14:08,959
Speaker 1: to get after the old growth coastal. I mean, we're

4144
03:14:09,000 --> 03:14:14,560
Speaker 1: talking six seven hundred year old trees, right and you

4145
03:14:14,640 --> 03:14:17,080
Speaker 1: look in that southeast lasting stuff. You look in BC,

4146
03:14:17,200 --> 03:14:20,200
Speaker 1: and they've been hammering it, and they might hammer it

4147
03:14:20,280 --> 03:14:24,960
Speaker 1: to the bitter end. I just like I think that

4148
03:14:25,360 --> 03:14:29,600
Speaker 1: that if you go in the into the future, I'm

4149
03:14:29,680 --> 03:14:32,320
Speaker 1: very conservative about this when I can. When I say conservative,

4150
03:14:32,320 --> 03:14:34,520
Speaker 1: what I mean is this, when we go into the

4151
03:14:34,600 --> 03:14:37,800
Speaker 1: future and more of the world has developed, and more

4152
03:14:37,840 --> 03:14:41,480
Speaker 1: of the world is industrialized, and there's less biodiversity and

4153
03:14:41,640 --> 03:14:44,400
Speaker 1: less wildlife, I think we're going to look at these

4154
03:14:44,560 --> 03:14:47,560
Speaker 1: last bastions of old growth timber and we're going to

4155
03:14:47,640 --> 03:14:54,000
Speaker 1: be like, thank god we protected that stuff. You go. Look,

4156
03:14:54,520 --> 03:14:56,600
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk lately, like somebody, even

4157
03:14:56,720 --> 03:14:59,800
Speaker 1: some politician in Florida, I think, introduce some bill to

4158
03:14:59,800 --> 03:15:03,000
Speaker 1: put it uh to put President Trump on Mount Rushmore.

4159
03:15:07,400 --> 03:15:09,800
Speaker 1: They say that that rock face isn't even suitable to

4160
03:15:10,080 --> 03:15:12,880
Speaker 1: accommodate a new face up there anyways. But let's just say,

4161
03:15:14,320 --> 03:15:16,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about who one of the guys that is there, Okay,

4162
03:15:17,120 --> 03:15:19,120
Speaker 1: one of the guys that is there is Theodore Roosevelt.

4163
03:15:20,360 --> 03:15:25,440
Speaker 1: Theodore Roosevelt. He's a Republican. And Theodore Roosevelt created the

4164
03:15:25,560 --> 03:15:29,400
Speaker 1: National Forest System, Okay. And what he did was he

4165
03:15:29,480 --> 03:15:32,000
Speaker 1: knew that American wildlife was on the way out, like

4166
03:15:32,320 --> 03:15:35,760
Speaker 1: like we relative to the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds,

4167
03:15:35,760 --> 03:15:38,320
Speaker 1: we live in the good old days of American wildlife.

4168
03:15:39,680 --> 03:15:44,080
Speaker 1: The shit was bad. Then Roosevelt came in and he

4169
03:15:44,160 --> 03:15:46,959
Speaker 1: knew that like for American wildlife to thrive, we need

4170
03:15:47,040 --> 03:15:50,760
Speaker 1: a National Forest System, we need like big tracks of forest.

4171
03:15:51,879 --> 03:15:55,000
Speaker 1: And he did that, and people didn't want him to

4172
03:15:55,080 --> 03:15:56,879
Speaker 1: do it, and they were pissed at him at the time.

4173
03:15:57,040 --> 03:16:00,480
Speaker 1: Now he's like universally celebrated every politician and wants to

4174
03:16:00,520 --> 03:16:06,680
Speaker 1: be favorably compared to Roosevelt. Okay, I'm very cautious about

4175
03:16:06,800 --> 03:16:12,760
Speaker 1: any effort that would undo or subvert those efforts to

4176
03:16:13,040 --> 03:16:18,200
Speaker 1: create these big tracks of nature, these big tracks of

4177
03:16:18,240 --> 03:16:23,080
Speaker 1: wildlife habitat. And I'm just always gonna be like I'm

4178
03:16:23,400 --> 03:16:27,480
Speaker 1: always gonna be on the side of preserving our landscapes,

4179
03:16:29,000 --> 03:16:34,000
Speaker 1: and I use the term investing in these wilderness landscapes

4180
03:16:34,000 --> 03:16:37,400
Speaker 1: where American wildlife can continue to thrive. And I'm gonna

4181
03:16:37,440 --> 03:16:42,080
Speaker 1: be like very I'm just gonna be on the defensive.

4182
03:16:42,080 --> 03:16:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the defense. I'm gonna defend wildlife habitat.

4183
03:16:45,440 --> 03:16:47,560
Speaker 4: Guilty before proven innocent. With you, when it comes to

4184
03:16:47,600 --> 03:16:49,800
Speaker 4: the wildlife habitat, it sounds like it's a double like

4185
03:16:49,840 --> 03:16:51,280
Speaker 4: it's a double ed short because on one hand, what

4186
03:16:51,320 --> 03:16:53,440
Speaker 4: you're saying is because we can't let fires roam free,

4187
03:16:54,160 --> 03:16:57,040
Speaker 4: we need we need the levels of growth. So cutting

4188
03:16:57,120 --> 03:17:00,320
Speaker 4: down what like is not necessarily bad. No, And if

4189
03:17:00,640 --> 03:17:03,480
Speaker 4: they sit in a layer, that's when it becomes detrimental

4190
03:17:03,560 --> 03:17:09,400
Speaker 4: to the wildlife, environment, human beings, the world we now

4191
03:17:09,480 --> 03:17:10,720
Speaker 4: see as it is today.

4192
03:17:11,200 --> 03:17:14,920
Speaker 1: If the right so with that executive order, with the

4193
03:17:15,160 --> 03:17:19,800
Speaker 1: right person in place to interpret it, I would be

4194
03:17:20,360 --> 03:17:22,280
Speaker 1: there's a there's a version in which I'd be like,

4195
03:17:22,440 --> 03:17:25,280
Speaker 1: thank God, yeah, because there's a lot of there's a

4196
03:17:25,320 --> 03:17:27,959
Speaker 1: lot of work we need to be doing for like wildfirework,

4197
03:17:29,000 --> 03:17:33,440
Speaker 1: wildfire reduction, habitat improvement, thinning. I'd be like great if

4198
03:17:33,520 --> 03:17:36,120
Speaker 1: with the right person on the ground implementing it, I

4199
03:17:36,160 --> 03:17:38,440
Speaker 1: could get excited about it. With the wrong person on

4200
03:17:38,520 --> 03:17:41,520
Speaker 1: the ground implementing it, I could get fearful of it.

4201
03:17:41,959 --> 03:17:44,680
Speaker 1: And right now it's it's a little early to tell,

4202
03:17:45,200 --> 03:17:47,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, with the right people executing it, I could

4203
03:17:47,600 --> 03:17:49,760
Speaker 1: think that it would be like net positive, or it

4204
03:17:49,840 --> 03:17:52,640
Speaker 1: could be people doing it and I wind up being

4205
03:17:52,680 --> 03:17:53,440
Speaker 1: like upset about it.

4206
03:17:53,760 --> 03:17:56,120
Speaker 4: Now, a hypothetical question for you. Let's say you're sitting

4207
03:17:56,160 --> 03:17:58,000
Speaker 4: in your office later this afternoon and there's a call.

4208
03:17:58,160 --> 03:18:01,160
Speaker 4: Some of your secretary walks in. She goes, Steve, the

4209
03:18:01,280 --> 03:18:04,960
Speaker 4: President is on the phone. You answer that phone. It's Trump,

4210
03:18:05,240 --> 03:18:07,080
Speaker 4: he said, tells you how great you are, how amazing

4211
03:18:07,120 --> 03:18:09,480
Speaker 4: you're everything's going so great in your life. But he

4212
03:18:09,600 --> 03:18:12,000
Speaker 4: wants you to be the guy to interpret the executive order.

4213
03:18:12,280 --> 03:18:13,280
Speaker 2: What do you say to that question?

4214
03:18:14,000 --> 03:18:18,760
Speaker 1: I would say, uh, yes, and then I would promptly call.

4215
03:18:20,959 --> 03:18:23,400
Speaker 1: I would promptly call a couple of friends of mine

4216
03:18:23,600 --> 03:18:26,840
Speaker 1: and I would say, uh, you guys need to do

4217
03:18:26,959 --> 03:18:28,680
Speaker 1: this because you understand it better me, and I need

4218
03:18:28,760 --> 03:18:29,840
Speaker 1: to act like I'm in charge.

4219
03:18:31,320 --> 03:18:35,440
Speaker 2: Smart man, smart man. I love it was it. Delegate

4220
03:18:35,480 --> 03:18:38,960
Speaker 2: to elevate. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, that's good.

4221
03:18:39,320 --> 03:18:41,160
Speaker 4: I do appreciate you bringing that down a little bit

4222
03:18:41,200 --> 03:18:44,920
Speaker 4: because it is so interesting, like this whole like the

4223
03:18:45,240 --> 03:18:47,400
Speaker 4: political landscape we live in now, because a lot of

4224
03:18:47,480 --> 03:18:49,400
Speaker 4: things he's doing, people are like, well, this is what

4225
03:18:49,520 --> 03:18:51,760
Speaker 4: you this is what everybody wanted. But there's so much

4226
03:18:51,840 --> 03:18:53,879
Speaker 4: going on that's hard for me to follow the bouncing ball,

4227
03:18:53,879 --> 03:18:55,800
Speaker 4: and I do my best to kind of like kind

4228
03:18:55,800 --> 03:18:57,280
Speaker 4: of fall off because it is so interesting to me.

4229
03:18:57,680 --> 03:19:00,280
Speaker 4: But when I saw that, you know, my brain goes

4230
03:19:00,320 --> 03:19:02,840
Speaker 4: to it's probably not as bad as it is because

4231
03:19:02,840 --> 03:19:05,920
Speaker 4: I'm not a pessimist. I'm very positive about like the

4232
03:19:06,040 --> 03:19:07,840
Speaker 4: best case scenario is usually gonna work out. My wife

4233
03:19:07,879 --> 03:19:10,000
Speaker 4: on the other end, being from British Columbia, not knowing

4234
03:19:10,000 --> 03:19:11,840
Speaker 4: the nugget that they're actually killing the forest, that they'll

4235
03:19:11,879 --> 03:19:13,800
Speaker 4: have to bring that up a dot our next family meeting.

4236
03:19:14,480 --> 03:19:18,039
Speaker 4: But uh, she she is huge into wilderness, her whole family,

4237
03:19:18,120 --> 03:19:20,840
Speaker 4: like her her mom is like, notice like the fishing

4238
03:19:20,879 --> 03:19:22,680
Speaker 4: queen in her town because she's like she can just

4239
03:19:22,760 --> 03:19:25,480
Speaker 4: rip any lip around there. So like she was very

4240
03:19:25,600 --> 03:19:27,560
Speaker 4: she's obviously worried and concerned, and I was like, well,

4241
03:19:27,560 --> 03:19:29,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be with meeter her next week. Like, what

4242
03:19:29,840 --> 03:19:32,160
Speaker 4: a perfect individual to talk to it about, because it

4243
03:19:32,280 --> 03:19:34,480
Speaker 4: is very interesting and just just trying to understand all

4244
03:19:34,520 --> 03:19:37,000
Speaker 4: the nuances of kind of like you were saying, like,

4245
03:19:37,120 --> 03:19:39,800
Speaker 4: how do you interpret these executive orders as opposed to

4246
03:19:39,879 --> 03:19:42,320
Speaker 4: just reading my face value and just assuming it's a

4247
03:19:42,320 --> 03:19:42,920
Speaker 4: blank canvas.

4248
03:19:43,280 --> 03:19:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you here's the main rep. Do you got

4249
03:19:45,920 --> 03:19:48,840
Speaker 1: a second? Here's kind of the main.

4250
03:19:50,600 --> 03:19:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly when the flight is, but I

4251
03:19:52,560 --> 03:19:53,600
Speaker 2: know we're getting well on this.

4252
03:19:53,879 --> 03:19:54,640
Speaker 1: This would be very quick.

4253
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Speaker 6: This would be very quick.

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Speaker 1: My my problem with the administration so far when it

4255
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Speaker 1: comes to the natural resources issues and public lands issues

4256
03:20:05,440 --> 03:20:10,400
Speaker 1: is I would like, I like I understand some of

4257
03:20:10,440 --> 03:20:12,600
Speaker 1: the things that need that they need to do. I

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03:20:12,680 --> 03:20:16,040
Speaker 1: think that they're taking a pretty ham handed approach and

4259
03:20:16,120 --> 03:20:20,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the doge stuff has been coming. A

4260
03:20:20,320 --> 03:20:22,760
Speaker 1: lot of the Doge stuff has been decisions being made

4261
03:20:22,840 --> 03:20:27,560
Speaker 1: by people who have no understanding of what they're toying with.

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Speaker 1: And I think that a better approach is get your

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03:20:30,680 --> 03:20:35,440
Speaker 1: cabinet heads in, get your administration people in, and let

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Speaker 1: people make decisions at a more expert level. The same

4265
03:20:40,680 --> 03:20:45,720
Speaker 1: way you read about Rubio's conflict with Musk or like

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03:20:45,800 --> 03:20:51,279
Speaker 1: Rubio's like, I'm secretary of State, let me go into

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03:20:51,879 --> 03:20:59,520
Speaker 1: my portfolio of interests and identify the cuts. That's my world, right,

4268
03:20:59,600 --> 03:21:02,199
Speaker 1: I'll do it. And so there's like a little possessiveness

4269
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Speaker 1: on some of the stuff with like beer, forest Service issues,

4270
03:21:06,040 --> 03:21:10,119
Speaker 1: Bureau of Land Management issues, logging issues, whatever, public lands

4271
03:21:10,160 --> 03:21:14,959
Speaker 1: administration layoffs and all that. Get the right agency people

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03:21:15,040 --> 03:21:17,720
Speaker 1: in place, let them know what they need to do,

4273
03:21:19,640 --> 03:21:22,800
Speaker 1: give them a minute to go and have like a

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03:21:22,959 --> 03:21:26,000
Speaker 1: more fine tuned expert opinion on where we find room

4275
03:21:26,080 --> 03:21:28,280
Speaker 1: for cuts, and don't just start cutting shit that you

4276
03:21:28,320 --> 03:21:32,360
Speaker 1: don't understand because someone else is gonna go in there

4277
03:21:32,480 --> 03:21:34,880
Speaker 1: and be able to do it without without throwing the

4278
03:21:34,920 --> 03:21:36,960
Speaker 1: baby out with the bath water. And they've thrown a

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Speaker 1: lot of they have thrown a in the area that

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Speaker 1: I'm informed on, which is like natural resources issues, They've

4281
03:21:44,800 --> 03:21:48,080
Speaker 1: thrown a shitload of babies out. And now you're gonna

4282
03:21:48,120 --> 03:21:51,320
Speaker 1: watch people come in, and they're gonna come in, They're

4283
03:21:51,320 --> 03:21:55,160
Speaker 1: gonna be like dragging those fucking babies back, picking those

4284
03:21:55,200 --> 03:21:57,440
Speaker 1: babies back up and putting them in and it's just

4285
03:21:57,920 --> 03:22:00,720
Speaker 1: it creates a mess and they will like the babies

4286
03:22:00,720 --> 03:22:03,080
Speaker 1: will get picked back up, and it will kind of

4287
03:22:03,120 --> 03:22:04,320
Speaker 1: be like, well, why don't we just like take a

4288
03:22:04,640 --> 03:22:07,400
Speaker 1: why don't we just do this in a more thoughtful

4289
03:22:07,400 --> 03:22:09,120
Speaker 1: way anyway, because they're already like, oh my god, he

4290
03:22:09,200 --> 03:22:13,760
Speaker 1: got they got rid of what? Yeah, and that's causing headache. Yeah.

4291
03:22:14,040 --> 03:22:16,960
Speaker 1: So I just think that I'm not the only person

4292
03:22:17,040 --> 03:22:19,520
Speaker 1: to bring this up, like there's an intention to go

4293
03:22:19,640 --> 03:22:22,000
Speaker 1: and do something, and I think that it was just like, uh,

4294
03:22:24,080 --> 03:22:26,520
Speaker 1: I think the intention kind of ran away with itself

4295
03:22:26,560 --> 03:22:28,320
Speaker 1: for a minute, and there's gonna be a lot of

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03:22:28,600 --> 03:22:30,880
Speaker 1: I think now there's gonna be like a lot of

4297
03:22:30,920 --> 03:22:32,560
Speaker 1: corrections are gonna need to take place.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that is I mean, this is a whole

4299
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Speaker 2: another hour of a podcast, a.

4300
03:22:37,640 --> 03:22:39,879
Speaker 1: Different show or two different show, and I have someone

4301
03:22:39,920 --> 03:22:43,240
Speaker 1: different than me talking to ye. Hey we delegate.

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Speaker 4: Uh last time was awesome, dude, shooting ducks with you

4303
03:22:46,520 --> 03:22:48,640
Speaker 4: This time just as much fun like the trapping portion.

4304
03:22:48,720 --> 03:22:50,480
Speaker 4: Obviously we didn't get a coyote, but it's good that

4305
03:22:50,600 --> 03:22:51,240
Speaker 4: we didn't get one.

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Speaker 2: You can't I can't be like, hey, we're going on

4307
03:22:52,840 --> 03:22:55,000
Speaker 2: a meat eat hunt, like it's gonna be right out

4308
03:22:55,000 --> 03:22:57,360
Speaker 2: in front of you, like that's that's honey. But we

4309
03:22:57,520 --> 03:22:59,600
Speaker 2: we appreciate, like, not just you, but your entire career,

4310
03:22:59,640 --> 03:23:02,080
Speaker 2: like the hospitality, the way you guys treat us like

4311
03:23:02,280 --> 03:23:03,320
Speaker 2: everything's first class here.

4312
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Speaker 1: So thank you so much. I appreciate it. Man. Thanks

4313
03:23:05,080 --> 03:23:06,480
Speaker 1: for coming on. I look forward to hanging again.

4314
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the man, bro.

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Speaker 1: Thank you