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Speaker 1: Yes, grab your torch and dip it in to the

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Speaker 1: already lit sexy Saint Jeff Candle because no Buffs is back, baby.

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Speaker 1: I'm j Eat Skeats here on a Thursday night along

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Speaker 1: we have not been going around.

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Speaker 2: We're going to Rocks.

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Speaker 1: We got the beard one, Trey Kirby, we got the

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Speaker 1: other bearded one, super No Dunk's producer JD. And we

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Speaker 1: got a special guest joining us tonight to break down

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Speaker 1: episode three of Survivor forty two. You know him from

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Speaker 1: Survivor Edge of Extinction where he made it to day

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Speaker 1: thirty eight, the final four, and he's crashing this pod

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Speaker 1: like he's the damn kool Aid man.

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Speaker 3: It's Rick Davin.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Rick, how's it going.

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Speaker 2: Man, Dude? I left my buff in the other room.

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Speaker 2: I brought my beard Inferiority complex and I'm ready to

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Speaker 2: roll with you. Guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, we really appreciate you jumping on here to discuss

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Speaker 1: again episode three, which I thought was an incredible episode.

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Speaker 1: I know we've been talking about it all day here

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Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory. I assume you thought that was

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Speaker 1: a banger too. And what's your just thoughts on this

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Speaker 1: season so far.

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Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed this season so far, Like this cast

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Speaker 2: seems like it's just a lot of fun. I mean,

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Speaker 2: kind of wacky, but in the best kind of way.

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Speaker 2: Like last night, from start to finish, maybe the worst

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Speaker 2: overall gameplay ever. Yeah, for an episode, like just like

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Speaker 2: seen by scene. But I think they're really trying to

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Speaker 2: minimize the similarities to last season that people wouldn't win against,

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Speaker 2: and it's working out. I'm really enjoying myself.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing and I want to get your opinion on it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I think this, but I saw

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Speaker 1: some people in the Twitter sphere saying there's some similarities

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Speaker 1: between Annuel on this season to Rick Devons back in

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Speaker 1: thirty eight. Now, I think that was sort of blown

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Speaker 1: up last night after that performance, like you said from Daniel,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, what what do you Let's like, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the episode and talk about him and are there

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Speaker 1: any similarities at all?

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Speaker 2: Uh? You know, I thought when he started his speech,

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Speaker 2: like guys, I got this. I'm going, oh man, he's

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Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna make me proud. He's gonna Devon's this

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Speaker 2: tribal council. I think it's kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 2: in the NBA, you only compare white guys to other

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Speaker 2: white guys. I'm survivor. You only compared curly haired guys

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Speaker 2: with classes to other curly haired guys. Uh, Like people

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Speaker 2: Could it possibly keep further? So I think that's about

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Speaker 2: what we have going for each other. It's curly haired. Uh.

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Speaker 2: And he's a talker. I mean, I'll give him that.

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Speaker 2: He's really entertaining.

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Speaker 1: Yep, he does. And we were saying before we jumped

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Speaker 1: on here with you, the three of us, JD trained myself.

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Speaker 1: We watched the twenty in it Rick Devans highlight mixtape

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Speaker 1: that's on YouTube. That's the thing that exists. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if you've got a chance to see it, Rick, But.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you similarities.

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Speaker 2: Are you edited it?

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Speaker 3: Oh well, great job.

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Speaker 2: Great cutting. Noone else was going to put that together.

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Speaker 1: No, it's no, it's amazing. And I actually, I mean

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Speaker 1: how many idols you had and the big movies you're doing.

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Speaker 1: But the similarities, yeah, with Daniel at least are like

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Speaker 1: at a confessionals as were.

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Speaker 2: You, thank you, thank you. I didn't really edit that together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he is, he's he's so much fun. But uh,

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Speaker 2: he's also just zany man. I mean losing, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know we're gonna go through it, losing the idol

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Speaker 2: that's not strong social game, Daniel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that was what he kept in his

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Speaker 3: Some of it, some of it other places, didn't give

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Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of people are counting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, were you surprised at all that he didn't? Or oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we say that both both are in play here. Were

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Speaker 1: going to Rocks. Now, let's go from there. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: With you, because you got to know that if you're

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Speaker 2: you know, like that's not even a possibility, then you're

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Speaker 2: right just change your vote immediately, or just immediately say hey, Chanelle,

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Speaker 2: you know I don't want to go to Rocks. Let's

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Speaker 2: the two of us join these two instead of throwing

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Speaker 2: her under the mush weird, Yeah, he really. It's like,

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Speaker 2: if you're willing to give up Jenny, which he clearly was,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and my favorite part maybe of the whole tribal council.

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Speaker 1: And I was so psyched. I mean, I think as

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Speaker 1: fireworks they're gonna fly. They talked about the rice, they're

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Speaker 1: the journey as I call it. But they're talking about

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Speaker 1: And then Daniel, out of nowhere JD suddenly just sort

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Speaker 1: you know who calms you out here? And Daniel like, well,

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Speaker 1: Rick like you you know, like the editing can get

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Speaker 1: slick with it, but we see the reaction from high

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Speaker 1: what's going on here? I thought he was with us

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yale Law school had to be beating her head

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Speaker 2: against the wall. No, it really, the whole thing was

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Speaker 2: it wrong why he's not gonna win. There are other

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Speaker 2: reasons you're not gonna win, Daniel, But you're right. It's

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Speaker 2: like he says, Mike, and then it's like you see

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Speaker 2: that was a screw up. But before he can stop himself,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do to cover this up. My girlfriend, my mom, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and Hi and Lydia are just going, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: we're so sunk. At that point, were.

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Speaker 1: You impressed with how High handled that tribal council? Like,

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Speaker 1: with him and Lydia has turned on him. Uh and

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Speaker 1: like we might go to Rocks that's being presented to him.

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Speaker 1: He for all that information overload, uh Rick. It felt

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Speaker 1: how he was like, Daniel, do you trust me? And

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I couldn't agree more with you. He

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Speaker 2: he really was confused and should have been at the votes,

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Speaker 2: so clearly like he's got to be just not having

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Speaker 2: million miles and it's the.

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Speaker 1: First tribal council for them, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And then I'm pretty sure once it becomes a discussion

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Speaker 2: between Daniel and High, like Daniel's like, we definitely don't

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Speaker 2: kind of like, yeah, I agree with that, and I

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Speaker 2: think he was almost he could have been willing to

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to Rock. I just like crushed him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, in a game of chicken, Hi

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Speaker 2: hijacked it and just made Daniel look, yeah, look a fool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought it was like I was catching major

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Speaker 3: Ricard vibes from High last night, just the way he

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Speaker 3: kind of on to the fact that Daniel was in

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Speaker 3: between the different voting blocks here, and he just knew

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Speaker 3: something was up. So when something turned out to be

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Speaker 3: this doesn't make sense. And then he just knew. Once

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Speaker 3: Daniel came out and kind of gave away his position,

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Speaker 3: HI knew where his position could be. Then Mike asked me, like,

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Speaker 3: would you ever consider switching your vote? That's when he knew.

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Speaker 3: He's like I got him, Like, if I stick with

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Speaker 3: it right here, I'm gonna win this negotiation easily and

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Speaker 1: And then the reason all of this maybe has had

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Speaker 2: And Omer has got to be like, are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: To be wondering if she screwed him on purpose at Yeah,

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Speaker 3: in Tribal Console as well, Rick, Is it easy to

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Speaker 2: You know, I actually never fell into that trapped because

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Rick, of the you know, these

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Speaker 1: sure we'll get into that. We have another one. Last

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Speaker 2: What do you think really didn't like the hour Class? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So and it's been you know, this season's been better

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Speaker 1: I want you to chi him in here because you

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Speaker 1: But yeah, who who uh impressed you the most last night?

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Speaker 2: Is it? High and Jonathan Jonathan?

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, but yeah I owned them. I mean as

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Speaker 4: just very impressive game of chicken that uh, you just

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Speaker 4: oh my god, like the where are the votes? And

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Speaker 4: There's six of us here and I'm only saying too,

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Speaker 4: oh what's happening here? I loved it. I mean like

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Speaker 4: probably because I'm willing to go to Rocks for you.

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Speaker 4: That is an ally that is not going to turn

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Speaker 4: do you think about that? Just that sort of maneuver

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Speaker 4: it is? It does it mean anything this early in

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Speaker 2: You know, there are some people that it wouldn't like

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Speaker 2: And I think for Lydia, You're absolutely right, Like, if

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Speaker 2: for that person. He yes, I'd be more than happy

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Speaker 2: great moment on You know, I say resume, but really

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Speaker 2: nothing happening. Pre merge matters right on your final final.

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Speaker 4: Tribe, doesn't it though, in a twenty six day game,

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think most people when you

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Speaker 2: get me, good for you, But who cares what you

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Speaker 2: did with those losers? You know, they couldn't even make

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Speaker 2: them merge? Yeah, like me, we got vote out fourth,

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Speaker 1: Another great moment for High too is Chanelle returns from

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Speaker 1: He does on sort of how aggressive Chanel is playing

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Speaker 1: you're like, WHOA, that's not how they usually are, and

430
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: he tells us like, she's not really that aggressive, and

431
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: suddenly she's bosting everybody around and he seemed to think

432
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: that was weird. Is that something that could happen?

433
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 2: I think that that's definitely something that can't happen. You

434
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: see changes in personalities all the time. Usually it's like

435
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 2: you were talking about earlier, when people have something good

436
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: happen to them, they just start feeling themselves like they're

437
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: controlling the game. Like my good buddy Ron Clark on

438
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: our season was like that. You know, when he was high,

439
00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: he was high, his hands smacked, you know, he'd go

440
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: back and tower a little bit, that he'd build himself

441
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: back up. But yeah, I think for Hi to be

442
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: able to pick that up from Chanelle speaks really highly

443
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: of highly of his game. And then I think it

444
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: also just the whole episode speaks to kind of the

445
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: hubris of Daniel and Chanelle. I think they clearly like

446
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: think they're a lot smarter, yeah than High and Lydia

447
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 2: like uh, and the fact that they thought they could

448
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 2: just convince them to do whatever they want. Chanelle said,

449
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: you know, I can run this, and then at Tribal,

450
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: you know Chanelle thinks she can convince people that she

451
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with it, Like she's willing to

452
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: take zero responsibility, whereas Daniel thinks he can. He can

453
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: give one hundred pursue responsibility and they're gonna fall forth.

454
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: Like they just really seem to underestimate Mike and Lydia

455
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: and Hi. Of course I don't think they underestimated Jenny,

456
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: but Jenny was just a victim of circuit here.

457
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: Poor Jenny like to go home that way TK. That's

458
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: like so early in the season people were very high

459
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: on her going very far in this game. I think

460
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: for good reason, here's my winter pick. Yeah, and then yeah,

461
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: here she is and there's no edge of extinction like

462
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: Rick fortunately had to be the fourth one vote at

463
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: least got a chance to come back, but she is gone.

464
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked like she was in a pretty good

465
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: spot going into last night's episode. Then they go to

466
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: tribal console looked like it was gonna be okay there,

467
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 3: but then she was in a situation where basically didn't

468
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: even get to stick up for herself. I thought that

469
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 3: was kind of strange, where you know, the bottom tour

470
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: there and it's just everybody else is figuring out your

471
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: fate and you just have to be like, well, we'll

472
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: see what happens here. But Rick, I was curious, is

473
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 3: is the hubris like the hardest thing to control about yourself.

474
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the moment you had when you got

475
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 3: back in the game with war Dog and the Jungle

476
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 3: and he's like, hey man, it's gonna be great for you.

477
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: You're gonna come back and work for us, and you're like, yeah,

478
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 3: it's a great idea.

479
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: And I never got.

480
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: An all time great moment, but it really goes to

481
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 3: show you, like, when you're in charge, it seems like

482
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: and be really blind to everything that's going on with

483
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 3: the people trying to be trying to get themselves off

484
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 3: the bottom.

485
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. You know. I suffer from it by

486
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: old way, not because I was controlling the game, but

487
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: there were definitely times where I started winning challenges where

488
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: I was feeling myself and I was like, theseus kids

489
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: and you need that, you know. It's like the NBA,

490
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: like you're if you really believe that you're gonna whoop somebody,

491
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: like your chances of whooping them are a lot better. Yeah,

492
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: But it's not like that. Strategically, and strategically, when you

493
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: start thinking that you're that much smarter or that much better,

494
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: like that's exactly when you're gonna get clocked. Like you

495
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: need a healthy set of paranoia. And you also, you know,

496
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: the best players are the ones that are well, I

497
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: guess even when you're doing it from behind the scenes,

498
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: you can be in your interviews feeling yourself, but yeah,

499
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: you I think it's just a lot harder to control

500
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: the game strategically than it is to win challenges because

501
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 2: everyone knows they need control of that game. And when

502
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: you start feeling yourself for being in control of the game,

503
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: other people know you've been controlling the game, like if

504
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: you're legitimately like maybe you're a goat going to Final

505
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: Tribal and everyone's laughing at you behind your back. But

506
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: the people who are legitimately controlling the game most of

507
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: the time, like it's pretty obvious, and that just puts

508
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: a target on you. So as soon as you start

509
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: feeling yourself, it's also the same moment that you've become

510
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: a target.

511
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: One more question with the Final Tribal Council, and then

512
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: we got to talk about four that amazing immunity challenge.

513
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: Rick put yourself in either really high or Daniel's shoes.

514
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. But you're this early in the game,

515
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: suddenly there's these missing votes and we're going to rocks

516
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: or the possibility of going to Rocks. I guess I said, say,

517
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: are you doing it? Like or are you gonna do

518
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: like what Daniel did? Like ultimately like, all right, it's

519
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: not me and I'm not pulling one out of four

520
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: rocks out of a bag possibly going home, Like is

521
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: there any way you're doing it that early in the

522
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: game especially.

523
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's really interesting because my intinct now

524
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: is someone is like, no, no, that's just so early

525
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: in the game. I know how quickly things can change.

526
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: Yep.

527
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: But looking back at my own game, if if it

528
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: had been David, you know that, if David had been Jenny,

529
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 2: there's no doubt in my mind, I'd go to Rocks. Like.

530
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 2: I never would have betrayed David, you know, stupid, stupid, loyal,

531
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't have done it, and I probably wouldn't

532
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: have done it with a couple of people that ended

533
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: up coming after me, you know what I mean. Yeah,

534
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: so it might not have even been a strategic move.

535
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: But then later in the game, I wanted to go

536
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: to Rocks with Ron and and Julie and Victoria and

537
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: David and I was so ready to go to Rocks.

538
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: But that's because we were at a point in the

539
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: game where it's like whoever had the majority, it was

540
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: that big of a moment, whereas that was not what

541
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: was happening last night.

542
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so makes when it's the final Federal Rock.

543
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a when you're at the final five. Sure,

544
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: when you're in the first tribal Council, it's like, I

545
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: would like to keep playing and I'm sorry, Jenny, I'll

546
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: see you later, especially when.

547
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: You're high, like you know they're missing their votes but

548
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: you don't know why. Yeah, you could go to Rocks,

549
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 2: get one of them out, and then you're still in

550
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: the minority. You know that you still didn't out here.

551
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is amazing. I mean it's twenty five percent

552
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: chance if they had gone to Rocks that that it's

553
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: him that goes home. And I did like when Daniel asked,

554
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: I think it was the first question actually asked Jeff

555
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: uh So, hold on, there are four Rocks here. I

556
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: know it was like two of us really deciding, but

557
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: there are four rocks, right if we go and he's

558
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: like yeah, and he's like, okay, well I'm not going

559
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: to rocks. Yeah, it's like even twenty five percent, Nope,

560
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it.

561
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: You just don't want to write first next question, did

562
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: matter at all? Yeah?

563
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if it was fifty percenties, definitely, Like all right,

564
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: let's let's see boy. Let's talk about Jonathan in the

565
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: Immunity Challenge. I mean, everybody's asking Ray and I'll ask

566
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: you this thing. Was that the greatest like performance we've

567
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: ever seen, at least in a team challenge?

568
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: You know, I do want to give a shout out

569
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: to this year because we have short memories. Carried his

570
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: tribe who was trying to throw it good point to

571
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: a challenging But I do think last night was more impressive.

572
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 2: I cannot remember a single performance that was that good.

573
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he won it for his tribe and then

574
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: also went back and rescued this. It was. It was unbelievable.

575
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: The guy is ridiculous. While two other tribes, entire tribes.

576
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: Couldn't even do it, and he did.

577
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: It on his own. So yeah, I think that is

578
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: the single most impressive individual performance in a team challenge,

579
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: and it might not even it might not need all

580
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: those qualifications. You might just say performance.

581
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was true.

582
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: True, that's because he did it.

583
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: He legit did everything. Like he made the bags. That

584
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: was the crazy fire. He ate the bags right along.

585
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: He dove down to get the key, the first one.

586
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: He obviously carried the ladder like Rick said he was carrying.

587
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: He was like going back and just picking people up.

588
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: He's throwing them one but like skipping him like a

589
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: stone over to the spot.

590
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: Then he holds the ladder.

591
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: Though, let's give some credit to Lindsey for showing some

592
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: pretty good balance. I thought, well, just Jonathan like basically

593
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: held the ladder by himself, but she like scurried up

594
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: there and like some people are gonna slip and fall off,

595
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: so I was pretty present. And then he nails all

596
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: five sand bags in a challenge where Rick also said

597
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: Probes has to be like, hold on, yeah, they might

598
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: be drowning. They're never gonna do this. The water's only

599
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: getting choppier and more aggressive, so let's just bring everybody in. That's,

600
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: of course, never happened. Rick, do you think Probes made

601
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: the right call there, though, and it was like, some

602
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: people are saying not a fair call, that maybe they

603
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: should should have both gone to tribal council, But what

604
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: do you think?

605
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I do want to just real quick

606
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: remind everyone, like, if Jonathan wasn't in this challenge, we

607
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: would all think it was an impossible challenge. True, we'd

608
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: all be like, wow, no one could have ever done

609
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: that talent. But now because of Jonathan, I'm like, I

610
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: bet about ninety percent of tribes in the history of

611
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: Survivor would have been fine. But I do believe that

612
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: these are very physically not gifted tribes.

613
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I love it, but that being.

614
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: Said, I do a podcast called Surviving Snyder. We talked

615
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: Washington football and Survivor. It's very neat, but I do

616
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: it with Dalton Ross of Entertainment Weekly. So he actually

617
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: talked to Probes and and and you have video if

618
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: you see the current. They actually showed a clip where

619
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: Ginny's swimming against the current and there's stuff like flying

620
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: across the screen. I think it was a really rough situation.

621
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: He said they were out there twenty two minutes or

622
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: so before they called it. So if you're really treading water,

623
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: for twenty like Keith on my season might have drowned.

624
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what my.

625
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: Wife watching it last night was like, has anybody ever

626
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: drowned it? Like she's like, yeah, sort of a casual fish.

627
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: She watches it when I'm watching it, Is somebody ever drowned?

628
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm like no, And She's like, that could happen here, right,

629
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get yeah. I mean, I know they've

630
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: got safety like divers and all that, but like there

631
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: are many times where like people are just like trying

632
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: to keep their head above water and salt water coming

633
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: in your mouth. Like you said, you're exhausted when I

634
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: when I walk on the beach for five minutes, I'm

635
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: tired right right.

636
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: And I think I saw in an article today that

637
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: Jimmy was saying in her head like don't yell for help,

638
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: don't yell for help, Like they were panicking, but they

639
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 2: don't want to get voted out. You know, It's like

640
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: they're still playing the game out there. You saw Chanel

641
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: holding onto the pole, like, yeah, don't tell me she

642
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: wasn't a little freaked out.

643
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: I would have been, oh, yeah, okay, So do you

644
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: think it was the I mean, I guess you think

645
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: it was the right call to ultimately bring them in.

646
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: They were at the same point too. It felt like

647
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: the latter point they were never going to do it.

648
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: I think. I think you know what I love about

649
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: it is they showed it. They didn't try to b

650
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: ss about yea or anything. You know, It's like, yeah,

651
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: it was messed up. They showed it, so we can

652
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: all judge the tribe and I can call them less

653
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: physical and uh and in fairness, it's like the other

654
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: tribe kicked their butts and was safe. So I think

655
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: it was totally fine. I had. I had no problem

656
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: with them. I thought it turned out a lot more

657
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: entertaining this way than it would have been if it

658
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: runs smoothly.

659
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: The only other option was having Jonathan be like the

660
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: all time QB for both teams. Well, you gotta go

661
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: out there, hold theirs as well, bring them all in,

662
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: and all the dream Team is now unemployed. They're like,

663
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: well we just got Jonathan. Now he just does everything you.

664
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: Know what he should have done, because Propes loves this

665
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: type of stuff. Jonathan should have been like, hey, Jeff,

666
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: if I go out there and help one of these tribes,

667
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: can I get there and just like propose that to

668
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Jeff C. What he would have done would have been

669
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: all over, Oh yeah, absolutely, we can play the you know,

670
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: the the Superhero music a little bit longer earlier. Yeah,

671
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: I also would have It would have been hilarious if

672
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: when Prope sourceing, okay, okay, you guys are basically drowning,

673
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: come on in, and then goes, uh, all right, here's

674
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: what I'm proposed. Well, we'll just go get the keys,

675
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: and we see like the dream Team like go get them.

676
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: They got a little like fishing pole almost to get

677
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: them down, and then you know, so Prope says, we'll

678
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: do that and then we'll start again.

679
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: That sound fair.

680
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: Would have been so funny if somebody that's like the

681
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: basically been drowning for twenty minutes like no.

682
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, nope, we're going.

683
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: We're still going, just like really, hold just feet to

684
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: the fire and be like, no, we're not done. You're

685
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: the one that stopped it. We didn't say anything, but

686
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: they were obviously like, yeah, okay, let's just go throw

687
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: some sand banks. I think we could do that totally.

688
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: And rox Roy I thought did pretty well on the

689
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: sand bank toss. So Rick, I mean, this gets edited

690
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: like I ken get edited a ton. I'm always wondering,

691
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: like how many how many shots were throwing it on

692
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: these on these banks?

693
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows? Who knows? I was in the beneficiary

694
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: of some great editing. Oh really on my season, yeah,

695
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: the very it was the second challenge and where we

696
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: carried the big snake. It ended in a big ring

697
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: toss onto the paddles then flip yep and spell and

698
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: myself and Chris Underwood and Keith we're all doing that

699
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: and Keith and I like anything. It was awful and

700
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: they didn't show me at all watching and I was

701
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: so happy because I just like And then later in

702
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: the season I nail a ring toss and you know,

703
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: and it ended up went into the challenge so they

704
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: had to show it.

705
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: So I'm just like, yeah, one for one, Yeah exactly.

706
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there were a lot more misses than

707
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: we saw, a lot more close ones than we saw. Yeah,

708
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: for sure, is it.

709
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: I've always like fascinated.

710
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: I wish I said this to the trey just right

711
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: before we jumped on, like I wish I was a

712
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: survivor sickos they would just like post the entire challenge

713
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: like somewhere on like YouTube and we could just go

714
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: watch it. Yes, see how many misses around stuff like that, But.

715
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: They could get so many paramount plusters they threw all

716
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: this stuff up there. For sure. It's a no.

717
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: Brainer to be the idea though, Like like you said

718
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: in yours, like you were struggling. It's like when do

719
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: you like go all right, somebody else try, or when

720
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: does somebody else go let me try find like that

721
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: dance interesting?

722
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you this. When I was missing him,

723
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: I was just waiting for Chris to say thank God,

724
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: and then I didn't put myself back in again. It's like, oh,

725
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: you're tired, Okay, I guess I'll try it. No, And

726
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: then when you're feeling it, it's like it always makes

727
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: me laugh when I think it happened last night, Like

728
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: someone nails like five of them and then someone's like,

729
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: I'll take over. It's like, why you know hero moment

730
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: they saw the first five, Like we're not stupid?

731
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what's the strategy?

732
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: Is it more of a flip like a finger roll

733
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: or some people are shooting jump?

734
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? I never threw the same bag. I don't know.

735
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: I would say, look at what war Dog's doing and

736
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: do the opposite.

737
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: Good call.

738
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: Okay, let's we're always gonna take our first break. But

739
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: a couple more things about the episode, and then we

740
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: have a bunch of great questions sent in by the

741
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: nobus community and some of the No Dunks fans as

742
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: well about last night's episode for you, Rick, and then

743
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: even about some of your season. We had Marianne, we

744
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: get like Taku coming back after who the heck was

745
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: just went home last week? Remind me, can't keep.

746
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 4: Trying who was it?

747
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Maria Maria Fia.

748
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

749
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: Marianne tells the small tribe but there's only like for

750
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: of them left that she's gott an extra vote, and

751
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: then they do this whole group hunt thing, Rick, where

752
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: for like an idol, they find the beware advantage she

753
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: does and we get the whole phrase, uh, was that

754
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: ever a thing on your season? Like the group idle hunt?

755
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: And like, what's your your feelings about.

756
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: That there was a group idole hunt. It's a big

757
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: thing because no one wants to go off looking for

758
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: idols at the beginning of the game when you don't

759
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: think you're your targeter. Yeah, so I remember in Manu

760
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: we said you know, no one wanted to do sneak off,

761
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: but everyone wanted an idol, So it's like, yeah, let's

762
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: do a group hunting, and all of you in your

763
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: heads are like, if I find it, I'm sneaking in

764
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: my pocket as quick because I you know, I'm not

765
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: gonna tell anybody, Like David and I are hunting together, going,

766
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: I bet Kelly already has it, like she's making us

767
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: look stupid, and I think Lauren already did have it.

768
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, the group idol hunts are just basically a

769
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: really transparent way of everyone like, you're not gonna get

770
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: in trouble if you look right now.

771
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: You know.

772
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: You can't just point in the target on although you're

773
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: still pointing and putting target on people, Yes, you're doing it.

774
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: So it is a big thing. But like again, I

775
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: don't think mary Anne was even trying to hide it.

776
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: She is way every All of them are way too

777
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: open about their advantages, but mary Anne takes it to

778
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: like the next level of openness. And for someone who's

779
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: seen all but six episodes of Surviving the Mysterious Token

780
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: teen six h you would think that you'd be a

781
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: little more careful.

782
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's I don't think she can help herself or

783
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: actually not just her. Seems like a lot of them

784
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: in the last couple of seasons, like you fight.

785
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: I love her so much. I'm yelling at the screen

786
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: like stop, stop, help me, help you.

787
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: I thought she did a pretty slick job with the

788
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: secret phrase. Yeah, I mean it's another classic case of

789
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: the bunny rabbit having dinner in the mailbox. And then

790
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: she asked, Jeff, you know what I mean, right, He's

791
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: like not really, and then she like went on to

792
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: explain sort of what it meant, even though she didn't.

793
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: But I was like, okay, that's I guess just mary Ann.

794
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: I was cracking it. It's like what they say, you know,

795
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: you can tell someone's lying if they you know, if

796
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 2: they add on to it. It's like when you tell

797
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: a lie, just as few facts as possible. Marian's like,

798
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: I have a five minutest bit and I love the

799
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: way Jeff flew her off, because that's the way he

800
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: blows off stupid comments Like that was totally and as

801
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: a king of stupid comment I got it a lot.

802
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: So yeah, he played along really well.

803
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: That's funny. There was a part where people on Twitter,

804
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: I have seen two with the idea that Mike doesn't

805
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: say it, he doesn't say his phrase and looked over

806
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: and then you know, he explains to us, like, you know,

807
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see if the third tribe says it.

808
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: But there's some blowback, Rick, I don't know how deep

809
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: into the weeds you are about, Like what the actual

810
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: note says, actual fine print talk? Yeah, and like do

811
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: you have to say it? Because I guess Xander did

812
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: from what we've learned since season forty one is that

813
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: he sort of did have to keep saying it and

814
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: was forced to by production. But maybe they've changed that.

815
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: And I guess the other twist too now. And Mike

816
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: tells us is if this doesn't happen, if it's not

817
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: unlocked by the time I believe they're merged, then these

818
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: idols are just they're good to go. And there's the

819
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: entire note. I mean, we're showing it to everybody. We're

820
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: not gonna read the whole thing, the part about the

821
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: idols sort of becoming powerful if they're not used as

822
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: they're right at the bottom. But yeah, I mean, what

823
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: do you make of this, Rick? Is it too much?

824
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: Well, it's a lot, it's definitely a lot. But I

825
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: have seen what you said where he says you must

826
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: say the phrase yeah, And if I'm out there and

827
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: I read that, I might not even ask the producers

828
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 2: for clarification, Like it seems pretty clear, like, oh, I

829
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: have to say this. So I do feel like the

830
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: other play like mary Anne's at a disadvantage because she's

831
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: playing by the rules and Mike and these others are

832
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: are not. But that you know, I don't blame Mike.

833
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: I think the producers have to do something. Although if

834
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: you think he's gonna say that the first one and

835
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: then he doesn't, I don't know what you do. Like

836
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: does Jeff stop the action like you did at the

837
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: in Final Tribal and say you guys have to reveal yourselves.

838
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: I almost feel like he should have to do that

839
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: because it says beware, right, yeah, yeah, And if you're

840
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: not bewaring anything, then it's there's no then it's not beware.

841
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: It's just a good thing.

842
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, seem to especially if he had not told people

843
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: about him.

844
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

845
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: If he just sits on it, then you're right, and

846
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: then it becomes powerful, I guess at the merge, and

847
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: that was something that didn't happen in forty one, so

848
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: that is one tweak. I think they just you know,

849
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: if they were not all activated, then they were sort

850
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: of just nothing if I have that right.

851
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: But Rick, isn't there like a crew with you when

852
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: you're finding this advantage? And isn't there a producer to say, hey,

853
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 4: you might want to read see where it says you

854
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 4: have to say this. That means you have to say this.

855
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: Is that not part of the gameplay or do they

856
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: just let you make the mistake and let you flounder?

857
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 4: If if that's what is going to happen.

858
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 2: You know, I think that that very well could happen.

859
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: And in this situation, I would I would think if

860
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: they cared about it, they would know going into the

861
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: challenge that Daniel had told him not to say it

862
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 2: right and that he wasn't going to say it. Yeah,

863
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: And at that point, definitely I would expect him to

864
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: come in and say, hey, read it again, you have.

865
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 4: To say right.

866
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: There's like I don't know where I put it. I

867
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 3: was gonna check.

868
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: But that's the only thing I can see happening is

869
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: like Mike's so all over the place that like maybe

870
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: they thought he was gonna say it, and then he

871
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: did it, and afterwards it was too late. It's like,

872
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: what do we do now, Let's just roll with it.

873
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: So maybe that happened, But I don't know. If I

874
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: was Mike, as soon as I got pulled away from

875
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: my interviews, I'd be peppering them with questions, right, And

876
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: sometimes they say we can't you know, no, no, And

877
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: other times they're like, oh, you know, it's you know,

878
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: they explained like it has to be.

879
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: Like so did you do that a lot?

880
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: Rick?

881
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you found a lot of idols and you

882
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: had a lot of these weird things. Were you always

883
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: like saying, Okay, what can I do?

884
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: What can I do?

885
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: What does this mean?

886
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: It was this constantly, constantly, and most all the time

887
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: they're just like figure it out, you know, yeah, I

888
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: tell you. But but other times, you know, there's some

889
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: stuff I really wanted clarification on, Like when I played

890
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: Ron's fake idol yep and then played my real idol,

891
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: I was I didn't know if I could do that,

892
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: Like I had to be very clear, like if I

893
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: played this fake, that's not it, right, I still have

894
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: a chance to play this other one. And they're like, yeah, Yeah,

895
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: you know, if you don't know that going into it,

896
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: you can blow your whole game. Sure, So stuff like that,

897
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: and then like, you know, go up when I got

898
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: the idle out of the tree in the middle of

899
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: the night, like that's something I've warned producers about during

900
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: the day. Yeah, I go up to them and I'm like,

901
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ask him when it's time for the challenge.

902
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: And I go, I'm like, nice, the night be there

903
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: so you have chances to talk with him. And I

904
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: would think that this would have come up.

905
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 4: And it's the second challenge right that he hasn't said

906
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 4: it to.

907
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you surprised that he's okay not voting, like

908
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: not having his vote for now two episodes going into

909
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: a third. That's It's like maybe that's what's sticking out.

910
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 3: It's like we put it on there, like there is

911
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: a penalty.

912
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: There is a penalty. You can't put a vote.

913
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: You want to be able to vote. But he's like,

914
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: I don't have an I can't vote, but I don't

915
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: have to admit I don't like that. I like sock,

916
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: I will not say it.

917
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: The Nokikes podcast.

918
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't know they will see maybe now after obviously

919
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: what happened they go to tribal council. Yeah, he doesn't

920
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: know where he sits in this trouble. You might the

921
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: first thing he's gonna say is soccer makes me cry.

922
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

923
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see next episode. Okay, let's take our

924
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: first break, and when we come back, we'll get into

925
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: tree mail. We got lots of great questions from the

926
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: nobus community. Don't go anywhere people, Okay, back with no buffs.

927
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: Here in the Classic Factory on a Thursday night talking

928
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: to Rick Devins from Edge of Extinction fame. And Rick,

929
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: you got on. You showed us right before we went live.

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00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: You gotta tilt your hat down a little bit, but

931
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: you have a an Atlanta Hawks corduroy hat.

932
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: Hey, that thing pops.

933
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: It looks great. You said there's a story to this.

934
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: What is it?

935
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: Yes? Well, since we're talking wardrobe, I do want to

936
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: throw in a little tidbit for your sponsor w Inindo, China. Yeah,

937
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: I used to be a news anchor and I got

938
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: a clothing allowance as part of that. I've got like

939
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: five Indocino suit Wow. The suit I was wearing at

940
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: the finale Endochino Personalized, says Survivor Edge of Extinction, My

941
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: my beautiful inner lining big Endocino fan.

942
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: Oh amazing. I hope we got to get you. Uh,

943
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: you got to use our code.

944
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: First off, I used the code I got from a podcast,

945
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: so I can't use it. I'm gonna use this one now. Sorry,

946
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 2: Tony Krnheiser. It's no dunks now. Awesome.

947
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: So what's the story behind the hut?

948
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: Okay? So, Tyler Frederickson, who Survivor Faithful will know as

949
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: the Redhead from season thirty The Dirty thirty YEP, is

950
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: a buddy mine, and he sent me this hat randomly

951
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: and he was like, you'll probably recognize it, you'll know

952
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: the story. And I looked at it and I was like,

953
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: that is a really ugly Atlanta Hawks at But this

954
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: was last year during the playoffs, so I was rocking

955
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: it everywhere, you know, go Hawks. And I kept asking

956
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: for hints, and he kept giving me hints about why

957
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: I would know this hat. It turns out this same hat,

958
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: well not this exact one, but a quarterwaight Atlanta Hawk's

959
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: hat was worn by one of the main characters, not

960
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 2: not Kevin Bacon in Trimmers Tyler for some reason thought

961
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: I would know that.

962
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know what, I think I've tweeted

963
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: that before that. I was watching it and saw a

964
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: Hawk's hat, and I'm almost positive there's a tweet where

965
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's random. Yeah, yeah, definitely, I'm

966
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: looking over it's your tweet. That's my tweet.

967
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

968
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: Watch at last night. Don't judge me. Checked Atlanta. That's amazing.

969
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: It's the identical hut. You're right, actually crazy, it's almost

970
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: ten years old, but incredible.

971
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Tyler Frederickson, thank you so much for this incredibly thoughtful,

972
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: strange ship. Yeah.

973
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: And so you know you are a noted atl fan, right,

974
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean your your team Falcons, your team Hawks or

975
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: all that.

976
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: I am a Braves fan. I'm Hawks fan, but I

977
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: was born a Washington before I moved down here. Okay,

978
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: Washington football fan, Braids and Hawks.

979
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: And and how you just started a new job. Is

980
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: that correct? Director communications at the school there that's on

981
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: your shirt.

982
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: That's right, Middle Georgia State University here and Macon go nights.

983
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: I tried to put off the real world in real

984
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: work for as long as possible, thank you, Sea, but

985
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: I had to go back to work, and this is

986
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: like a dream job. It's right here and make it.

987
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful campus. So prospective students come check. Come,

988
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: let's talk survive.

989
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: Oh that's pretty cool.

990
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: Middle Georgia State University.

991
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: What are you saying there's a survivor class.

992
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying that you have an office.

993
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: Just come by, just do this.

994
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, if they want a master's class and survivor,

995
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 2: I'll bring your guest speakers. Hey, Wendell Holland is busy.

996
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: Nice, Okay, well speaking of.

997
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: That money speaking me beautiful table guys.

998
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, from our guys, beautiful. I think Wendell's I

999
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: forget what day it was. He's undergoing surgery, ACL surgery,

1000
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: I think he was, and we had the basketball regardless. Uh,

1001
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: so hopefully he's doing all right. We're hoping to have

1002
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: a Wendel on one of these No Bus episodes coming up.

1003
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: But we got Rick right now. Let's get to tree

1004
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: mail and fire some questions at Rick JD. Yeah, little

1005
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: tree mail, sending your questions to No Dunks at the

1006
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: Athletic dot Com. Throw no Bus up in the header,

1007
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: or you can tweet out us at no Dunks, Inc.

1008
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: I n c or of course you can leave him

1009
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: in the YouTube comments below this video. Okay, first one,

1010
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: as a former Money winner, Rick, who is the front

1011
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: runner for that prize this season if it still happens,

1012
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: and what advice would you give to those who want

1013
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: to win it? The se of Money? So this is

1014
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: from at Mighty Stebacha, can you explain for maybe, like

1015
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: because we do have some new sort of fans to

1016
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: Survivor by way of the podcast that we do, the

1017
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 1: basketball podcast, the Sea Money. What is just for someone

1018
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: that's new to this, what does that mean?

1019
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: So see the international pop star from Australia you know

1020
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: I want to Swing from the chandelier is a huge

1021
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: Survivor fan. She and she approaches her tight. She loves

1022
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: the show. Obsessed with Cochrane apparently, and I think the

1023
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: first season she ever did it was ties first season, Yeah,

1024
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: when he was looking after Mark the Chicken all season

1025
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: because I think she is a vegetarian. And so she

1026
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 2: rewarded him at the finale with just a big check.

1027
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 2: And then she did it again for Donathan on Ghost Island,

1028
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: and she did it again for David Davey Rickenbauer, and

1029
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: so it became like expected U and then she she

1030
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: gifted me with like a really nice gift which was outstanding,

1031
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: and I'm not has she done.

1032
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: It since Yeah, that's the thing. I feel like she

1033
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: she has stopped doing it.

1034
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: Or they're just not talking about it because the reunion

1035
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: shows aren't live studio affair anymore.

1036
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: So it's a good point.

1037
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: Good point. So, yeah, you might be the last sealing.

1038
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: For what we know, And so she's traditionally given it

1039
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: to people who are like really nice with animals or

1040
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: I kind of broke the broke the mold of everything

1041
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: because I'm not that I was mean to animals. I

1042
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: love thee but this season it's complicated. I would say

1043
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: Hi really went for that cmo.

1044
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think he really.

1045
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: I think he was thinking about CEA when he was

1046
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: doing his old crab thing. But I think Mary Anne

1047
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: is easily the front runner, okay, because I think what

1048
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: Cia really wants is just someone who's like authentically a

1049
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: nice person having fun. And I think when she gave

1050
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: me the money, I'm confident that like she talked to

1051
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: production and was like is he a nice guy? Because

1052
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 2: because I loved production so much, like I think that

1053
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: played into it. So I think mary Anne is the

1054
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: front run.

1055
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I've compared mary Anne to Rupert.

1056
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: Like and more.

1057
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 3: I mean that positive that just like they're one of ones.

1058
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: Honestly, they're just so excited to be there, both of me.

1059
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking like, you gotta remember Rupert. The first time

1060
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: he's on camera, you can't take your eyes off him.

1061
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: You're like, who is this character? Just this this crazy character.

1062
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: And as the times he came back, I think he

1063
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: started to like wear on some people. And he was

1064
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: a bit of a one note player when it came

1065
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: to Survivor too, he didn't you know, it wasn't you know,

1066
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: flexing his strategic chops by any means. But uh, yeah, no,

1067
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: I that Marianne's a great pick or or high. I

1068
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: think do you have anyone else trail that you.

1069
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: Might have nailed it? Even more with the Ruper thing

1070
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: by like someone who people at home love, love love,

1071
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: but it's hard to be on the island with.

1072
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, for sure, is there anyone else trail that

1073
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: you could.

1074
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: Does Jonathan have a chance? Huh? I mean, you know,

1075
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 3: like he seems to be a nice guy aside from

1076
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: just being an incredibly strong physical player as well and like,

1077
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: I don't know. He seems very gracious in every action

1078
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 3: with everybody, and you know he did save some lives

1079
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: a little bit. Yeah, and he probably won't win too.

1080
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like he'll probably win. Like that's a

1081
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: question I would have for you, Rick, How does he

1082
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: possibly avoid being the first guy voted out when it

1083
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 3: comes to the merge, everybody's gonna say, look at this

1084
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: physical threat, we don't stand a chance.

1085
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. And you know I

1086
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: posted about that online and a lot of people are like, oh,

1087
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: but you know, so many of the things are puzzles.

1088
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: You know, he might not be good at that, you know,

1089
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 2: so maybe people won't go after him. But I mean

1090
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: he literally can't hide behind anybody. Yeah, he's just like

1091
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: he's never gonna slip your mind. You know, if he

1092
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: gets to the end, he's gonna win, just because it's

1093
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: so amazing he got to the end. So no, I

1094
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: think he's he's one of those where you're just like,

1095
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: thank you so much for dragging me here to the merge,

1096
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: you know, goodbye, And that doesn't say anything like I

1097
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: don't think there's anything he can do. If he does,

1098
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: it'll be great because I'm rooting for him. He seems

1099
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: to have a really good social game, although the preview

1100
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: next week maybe it's not as strong as it looks

1101
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: right now. But like, I think he's doing everything right.

1102
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: He's just so impressive.

1103
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 4: Well, he could feed people. He's got fishing gears to.

1104
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: Start doing that here, Yeah.

1105
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 4: On a season where there's no food, and he could

1106
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 4: go and literally win every challenge because as you say, Rick,

1107
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: it's not an impressive bunch in the physical department, you

1108
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

1109
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the people like countering Rick are sort of

1110
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: right too. These are a lot of puzzles. Now, that's

1111
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: not like who's just the strong.

1112
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: But if he finds some idols, I mean, he but

1113
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: I just think it's a tougher road for him than

1114
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 2: anybody else in the game.

1115
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's likable move all of the physical attributes.

1116
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: He seems like an excres.

1117
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: And that's true. If he was a jerk, you probably

1118
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: have a lot better chance. Yeah.

1119
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 4: But he also and I'm just gonna also throw this

1120
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 4: out all right, he's got this bond with Omer and

1121
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 4: they're an odd couple. And those those Hawaians seemed to

1122
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: go far in this game. And if Omer uses him

1123
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: as a meat shield and then Jonathan has the sense

1124
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 4: to get rid of him at the exact right time,

1125
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 4: which I think he's capable of doing. I don't know.

1126
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 4: I like Jonathan's chances to make it deep, deep into

1127
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 4: this game.

1128
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: And you know, if I had to jump on your bandwagon,

1129
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: I would say, if he keeps mary Anne, I don't

1130
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: think she'll stab him in the back. Like maybe he

1131
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: could have her and Omer watching his back and I'd

1132
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: love to see it.

1133
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 4: The go train alliance.

1134
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: That's right, Om and mary Anne Toronto connection there all right?

1135
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Next one here from at Doug Glossi. He sends in

1136
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: a lot of great questions, this one by way of Twitter.

1137
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: If you could choose any season of Survivor to skip

1138
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: six episodes of, like Marianne and Token Jean's, which would

1139
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: you pick? And why that's a good one, Devin's what

1140
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: do you think there? If you had to pick one

1141
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: Survivor season six episodes.

1142
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: That's really tough. That's really tough. You know, if you

1143
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: go back and watch season one, it's so slow compared

1144
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: to these days that you could skip six and still

1145
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: not be lost. But it's you know, it's the best. Yeah,

1146
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: the first Yeah, so I would say season thirty nine.

1147
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I mean come on, let's yeah, yeah, take

1148
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: take that middle part and act like it never you know.

1149
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I'm trying to protect I don't want to

1150
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: say anything else.

1151
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: Yes, season thirty I think a lot of people would

1152
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: be picking that one. That's uh. I saw people tweeting

1153
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: that for sure. All right, this one's interesting. Back to

1154
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: Mike here, do you guys have any.

1155
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: Idea which six episodes or why do you have theories?

1156
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: Well, so I was listening to the plot has spoken,

1157
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: which is of course Tyson yeh from you know, winning

1158
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: Blood Versus Water, and he was on that one with

1159
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: fishback and stuff, and he was so they were making

1160
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: fun of him that maybe she she loved Tyson. She

1161
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: would have been very young, I guess at that point,

1162
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: but she loved Tyson, was watching it and then when

1163
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: he got voted out, she's like, I'm done with this.

1164
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: Turn it off.

1165
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: So that was the one theory, though the other three

1166
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: was she only started watching it after he got voted out.

1167
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: But no, it's weird.

1168
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 3: Which six middle six, first six and it could.

1169
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 4: Be scattered throughout the she just missed randomly six because

1170
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: she had like soccer.

1171
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: But she's like, okay, she's obviously a super fan. She's

1172
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: seen every other episode.

1173
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 3: You don't seek out those six And someone.

1174
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: Who plays Fortnite with fish back every Thursday and we're

1175
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: playing tonight. He can be wearing I can see just

1176
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: checking out.

1177
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, yeah, just over it's possible. What a fascinating

1178
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: thing to say. She is amazing, all right, next one

1179
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 1: here from Ryan Berry, Mike's position is pretty interesting. Let's

1180
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: go back to Mike. He's in a minority, but his

1181
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: ongoing lack of vote reduces his pre merged threat level.

1182
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: Is he safer voteless? That's sort of what we're alluding to,

1183
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: assuming his idol doesn't get activated next episode? What do

1184
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: you do with a mic on your tribe? What's Mike's

1185
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: next move? So, yeah, what do you think of Mike's

1186
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: position here? Rick?

1187
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: On this tribe of now five, Mike is in a

1188
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: really weird spot because yeah, if I'm uh, you know,

1189
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: lydi and high, Mike is definitely my preference to work

1190
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: with versus Chanelle or Daniel at this point. Yeah, and

1191
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: he's like like like the person who sent the tree

1192
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: mail said he's less threatening because he doesn't have a vote.

1193
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: So that's great, But the problem is that you're two people,

1194
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: and then Daniel and Chanell are two people, even if

1195
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: they're mad at each other. So if Mike doesn't have

1196
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: a vote, you're in trouble. You need at least Daniel

1197
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: Chanell to give you the majority, which makes Mike already

1198
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: not your priority. So I don't think Mike's in a

1199
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: great spot. And and then when he does get his

1200
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: vote back, doesn't that mean he'll also have an idol,

1201
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: So then he becomes a threat in a way. So

1202
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, Mike's in a rough spot. I feel

1203
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: like the only thing he has going for him is

1204
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: that he doesn't have his vote, and then that's also

1205
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: could be a bad thing. And the circumstances that that tribes.

1206
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: In right now, I one hundred percent agree with you.

1207
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: I think if that if this Green tribe goes back

1208
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: to a tribal council, let's say in the next episode

1209
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: or soon, Daniel is going to be I mean, he's

1210
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: he's basically forced his hand that he has to like

1211
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: now that Hi, whatever you want to do, let's do it,

1212
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: and he will I think serve up on a platter,

1213
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: voting out Mike. He talked about it in this episode

1214
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: with the whole like let's see the fine print and

1215
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: all that. Okay, maybe we do keep him around because

1216
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: of this idle whole thing, but he's going to be

1217
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 1: like anybody but me. I mean, that's how he's gonna

1218
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: play and probably how he should at this point. I

1219
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: think it'll be Mike over Chanelle. I actually think that's

1220
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: what he would present to High and Lydia, right.

1221
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you will know as soon as soon as

1222
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: he knows, you're gonna know that he's getting an idol

1223
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: back and he's getting his vote back. So either he

1224
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: has to activate it at the very next immunity challenge.

1225
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: Whats means then that Marianne has to say her piece

1226
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: and they have to get the other piece set as well,

1227
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: or he's gonna be on the chopping block, you would

1228
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: have to think, just because it's like he can't do anything,

1229
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: and then as soon as he can do everything, everybody knows.

1230
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 3: He's in a tough spot right here. But I mean

1231
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 3: he's burned less bridges, you know. I think probably socially

1232
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: he's oh sure, yeah, ranked higher than Daniel and Chanel

1233
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 3: are but not having a vote is pretty bad.

1234
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but will Mike put up the fight, let's say,

1235
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: between Daniel if it's him and Daniel to all the

1236
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: other ones on this tribe, especially High and Lydia and

1237
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: then Chanelle is in this mix here, But like, is

1238
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: he gonna be like, no, we got to vote Daniel out.

1239
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: He's the one that's flip flopping around here. He can't

1240
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: be trusted. He might, yeah, he might, but I also like,

1241
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't know he just does he do that? Is

1242
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: that his type of Yeah?

1243
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? And the other thing with Mike is you just

1244
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: don't know what his relationship has been with High and Lydia,

1245
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 2: Like has he made any effort with him or did

1246
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: he just feel so secure in his alliance? Because if

1247
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm Lydia in High and he hasn't from the gig

1248
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: go made any effort for me, plus he had secret,

1249
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: then I might just go with a wounded Daniels, yeah,

1250
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: you know, versus him?

1251
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. I heard Jenny talk to to

1252
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: Rob Cstererino in her exit interview today and she said

1253
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: she tried to build a bond with Lydia especially and

1254
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: that went nowhere. This according to Jenny, she would always

1255
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: like just get up and leave. So if that, if

1256
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, if which is yeah, seiler. But if Jenny

1257
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: is linked so tight with Mike, then I think we've

1258
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: been led to believe at least what Rick is saying,

1259
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: like that he probably is not all that tight with

1260
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: higher Lydia.

1261
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 3: It didn't seem like no, it seemed like there was

1262
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 3: two and two with two in the middle.

1263
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right. Next one here from Adam in

1264
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Hey, guys, since this season's contestants have not

1265
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: seen season forty one, someone from this season could falsely

1266
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: claim that another contestant appeared on forty one and rally

1267
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: their tried mates to vote them out. This seems like

1268
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: something Sandra or Boston Rob could smoothly pull off. But

1269
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: I wonder if all of you think anyone could pull

1270
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: it off from this season, and if so, who could

1271
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: they do it to? Like, who would they target? Thanks? Guys,

1272
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: love the show. So this is like Galaxy brain thinking

1273
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: here from Adam, and I guess, like's a it's a

1274
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: difficult question, I think, Rick, it's like such a hypothetical,

1275
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: but like I love the idea of Like I know,

1276
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: I say this all the time here on this show,

1277
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: Like if I ever go on there, I'll have all

1278
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: these lies, you know, like I'll lie about this, I'll

1279
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: lie about that. And I think it's so easy to

1280
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 1: say and then try to actually do as a whole

1281
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: other thing from your experience is like, am I on

1282
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: to something there? Like Yeah, you might think all these

1283
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: grand plans and you may act a different way, but

1284
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: you really won't, probably when you're out there and you're

1285
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: just stripped to the bare minimum.

1286
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. That that that's such a funny lie. Can you imagine,

1287
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 2: I know, if you're the person that's being targeted and

1288
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: someone comes up and they're like, did you play on

1289
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: forty one? Do I look like I just got up?

1290
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: Like you know, it would have to be like Zach Romeo,

1291
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: someone who's already very skinny.

1292
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 4: Right yeah, yeah, yeah.

1293
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: I mean logistically the lie just it could never happen,

1294
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: especially this season where you they needed like two weeks

1295
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: to quarantine. Sure it was even overlap and stuff. And

1296
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: then it's like, are the camera people and producers really

1297
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: that amazing that there's no recognition they could they could

1298
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: do that. I mean they're amazing crew. I think you'd

1299
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: be better off saying that someone was like Tony's nephew

1300
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: or something.

1301
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 3: That's good.

1302
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: That's good, like find a little uh, find someone that

1303
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: looks the most like Tony.

1304
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: Like if someone had told me Wardog was related to Tony,

1305
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 2: I would have been like, holy crap for not seeing that.

1306
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 3: You couldn't buy that.

1307
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: You can sort of see it. The personality is the look.

1308
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: It's like he could be related to him. That's that's

1309
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: where we're going.

1310
01:02:55,160 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: If someone targeted Daniel was like that's Devons's brother, would

1311
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: be like, oh my god.

1312
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 1: I guess the one problem with this is, well, yeah,

1313
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: like nobody most of the people on Survivor now are.

1314
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: They're fans of the show. They're watching every single episode

1315
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: outside of those six from Token Jeans and uh, and

1316
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: it's like they're like, how do you know that? So

1317
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: they would have to be like yeah, Like like DEVI

1318
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: to say like, oh, the producer, he let it slip,

1319
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: like yeah, but it seems a little far.

1320
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 3: Fet Rick, did you have a story or a lie

1321
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 3: that you wanted to take out the island that you

1322
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 3: thought was too dumb to actually say out there when

1323
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 3: they were cameras.

1324
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: I thought it was funny because all the way in.

1325
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: They were like, are you going to tell them what

1326
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 2: you do? Are you going to tell them your news anchor?

1327
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: I was like yeah, like what else would I talk about? Yeah,

1328
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: And they're like, you don't think they'll be I don't

1329
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: know what they expected. Like people were like, wow, he's

1330
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: a news anchor, Like watch out for him. I guess

1331
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: like as soon as I start talking, they're not going

1332
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: to be worried about.

1333
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: There was a prestige or on television for sure.

1334
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, top market at the time, I think, yeah, exactly, exactly.

1335
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: Uh so there was nothing like that I did. I

1336
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: do remember my pregame interview saying, if I ever get

1337
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: in a really bad situation, like I'm just going to

1338
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: find someone who's buy themselves in the woods and wait

1339
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 2: near them until someone else walks up, and then I'm

1340
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: gonna start running away like we got caught. That's something

1341
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: I really wanted to do. But the situation just never

1342
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 2: presented itself. It's like I had idols or had something

1343
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,479
Speaker 2: else where. I it wasn't worth making you that, he said,

1344
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: she said, And now I guess I can't do it

1345
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: next time either.

1346
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: When when you were hiding the fake community, idols, which again,

1347
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm so happy I watched that highlight. I was reminded

1348
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: of that. You did two of them. They both got found,

1349
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: they both got played. Of course they were idols. And

1350
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: there's the one they're showing you like you're like, like,

1351
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, back in the bushes, like she found it?

1352
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: Like I mean, was that like I was? Were you

1353
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: really there watching her notice it? And you're like, I

1354
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: got her, She's I got her in the trap here? Like,

1355
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: but were you worried at all that you she was

1356
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: gonna see you? I forget who it was.

1357
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 4: Was that a.

1358
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I had, you know, they showed me going

1359
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: up in the tree in the middle of the night

1360
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 2: and getting the idol. Yes, but they didn't show one

1361
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: time when when half the tribe was out on reward

1362
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: and Julian Aurora were on the beach, me climbing up

1363
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: the tree as fast as I could have rehiding my fake.

1364
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: Gotcha right?

1365
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I did it initially not to have

1366
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: anyone find a fake. Like I was really worried I

1367
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: was going to get into a spot. It was clear

1368
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: at this point I needed to win immunity or have

1369
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: an idol or I was out like there was no

1370
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: getting around it. So my backup, backup planned was if

1371
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: I don't win immunity or I don't have an idol,

1372
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: then right before it's time to go to tribal, I'm

1373
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 2: gonna go one second, I'm gonna climb up the tree

1374
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: in front of people, idol down, and then when we

1375
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: get to tribal, I'll show them the clue that said

1376
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: where it was. You know that I couldn't fake that

1377
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: had the painting of it, and that was gonna be

1378
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's like, if you think I'm bluffing, risk

1379
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: your game on it. That was my last ditch, Effra.

1380
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: But anyway, I got to a point in the game

1381
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: where I knew I wouldn't need that because I had

1382
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: enough idols to get me to the end. So that's

1383
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: when I was just ready to burn everything down. I

1384
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 2: just wanted them to find it. So Lauren more than anybody,

1385
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: Lauren's a totally great person, right, like she's a dentist.

1386
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 2: There's nothing bad. But we were on an island together

1387
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 2: for thirty eight days. We were adversarial a lot of

1388
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: the time, and like the last three weeks of the game,

1389
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 2: at least everything I said, she just rolled her off

1390
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: and like this, the disdain for me rolled off her

1391
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: and I was always in the minority, like she was

1392
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: coming after me the whole time. So when she found

1393
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 2: that idol, I did walk up and saw her find it,

1394
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: and I was so happy. Like looking back, it's like, oh,

1395
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: you jerk, but I was so happy. And then Chris

1396
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 2: walked up and I was like, Chris, you're not gonna

1397
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: come here, come here, Like all of that was totally legitimate,

1398
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: and yeah, it was the best. And I actually Laurena

1399
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: and I made up after the game and uh, and

1400
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 2: we were good. And then at the live finale, like

1401
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 2: we're all in the green room together and they show

1402
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: that scene for the first time and I'm laughing and

1403
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: I've been dead to her ever since.

1404
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 3: How long did it take you to make those fake idols?

1405
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: Because they looked pretty intricate, and like you know, you're

1406
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: always talking about you can't be gone too long and

1407
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: people get suspicious. So I guess at your point it

1408
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: was like, well, Rick's out there looking for it anyway,

1409
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: so maybe a bad time, is that what was going on?

1410
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: Like they looked really nice.

1411
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: That's what happened. Well, the first idol, I made was

1412
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 2: when I was panicking, yeah, and it was after David

1413
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: had left, and it was actually inspired by David because

1414
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 2: he was like, hey, that coffee lid. I think we

1415
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: could turn that into something on one of the rewards

1416
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: that Kama had brought over. And so the only idol

1417
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: David and I had ever seen in the game at

1418
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: that point was the one that we each had half of,

1419
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: and it was like a really intricate, nice, like fake

1420
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: dayd carved like beautiful idol. So that's what I thought

1421
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: I had to make before I'm a big threat. Like

1422
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,959
Speaker 2: I cut off the top of the jar, I painted

1423
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,879
Speaker 2: green in the middle of I carve a Chinese symbol

1424
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 2: in it that I had gotten off the tea container,

1425
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: so it's a legit symbol. I do all this and

1426
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: you look at it and it's the worst thing you've

1427
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 2: ever seen. It looks like a coffee lid painted green, crabby,

1428
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: like it's garbage. I still have it. I wish I

1429
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 2: could have time to run and get it, but so

1430
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: I was like, oh crap. Then I found my first

1431
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 2: eye on it was such a piece of crap. I

1432
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: was like, yes, yeah, so I'd actually know. And then

1433
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: I made another really nice idol before I found my

1434
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: first one that was made of a shell. I got

1435
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 2: out and it had tons of beads. Then I found

1436
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 2: a crappy idol, and I went out one afternoon and

1437
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 2: made like two of those easily with stuff that I

1438
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 2: get because I get yeah, yeah, yeah, I have to

1439
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 2: tweet at you guys pictures of my fake idols that

1440
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 2: I never use.

1441
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: And so how long were those taking you? Like a

1442
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: half hour?

1443
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: An hour?

1444
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 3: Hours?

1445
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: Like yeah, the one with the coffee cup was the

1446
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 2: one where I couldn't sneak off at all, So that

1447
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: was like probably little segments of like four minutes, but

1448
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 2: it probably added up to like an hour and a

1449
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: half and still just gard it. And then the other one,

1450
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: the real intricate one, and they actually when they showed

1451
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: the flashback when they're like days earlier Rick making his

1452
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 2: fake idols, they showed me fake make it my real

1453
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: fancy one. It never gets played. That one took a

1454
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: long time, and then the other two were pretty quick

1455
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 2: because it was one of those things where it's like

1456
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: I got to make him quick and crappy or look

1457
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: right right, but yeah, and again like I had an

1458
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 2: idol at that point, so I made it an exact copy.

1459
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, there's a show here, I'll put

1460
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 2: a show here, there's a quarrel here, and there's i'll like,

1461
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: and I didn't like. I was real worried I was

1462
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 2: gonna mix them up. And I'm sure production wouldn't even

1463
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: have known if I mixed him up. But yeah, I

1464
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 2: was trying to keep track of like four things in

1465
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: my bag, like a real idol, two fake idols, a

1466
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: fancier fake idle. That's why I wore my bag everywhere.

1467
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's great. Now I'm just imagining Mike with like

1468
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: five idols, three of them fakes, two reels. He has

1469
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:42,480
Speaker 1: no idea where any of them are, stumbling over them. Yeah,

1470
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: all right, here's another question. This one's from Kirk. Hello,

1471
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: no buffs. I remember once hearing Boston Rob say something

1472
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: to the effect of quote, let me give a tip

1473
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 1: to any future survivors out there, if you want to

1474
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: know who's aligned with who, see whom they sleep next

1475
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: to at night. Nobody's going to sleep next to the

1476
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: guy they want to vote out. End quote. I thought

1477
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: to myself, if I ever make it on Survivor, I'm

1478
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: gonna use that tip. If you guys were to make

1479
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: it on survivor do you have any tips, strategies or

1480
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: rules that you would follow going into the game. So

1481
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: they're asking us people had never been on the show,

1482
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 1: but we have somebody that was so first off, yeah,

1483
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: any truth to the Boston Rob, keep an eye on

1484
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: who's sort of sleeping beside each other? And then what

1485
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: other tips was maybe Rick Devans out.

1486
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: It's funny because I don't I think Boston Rob said

1487
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: that on season thirty nine when he was like the coach,

1488
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: yeah or whatever. And so it was after I had

1489
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 2: played and I looked back and went, wow, he nailed it.

1490
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean it could now that people have heard it,

1491
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 2: maybe they'll change. Yeah, But I mean he was so

1492
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: right about where people slapt. My other advice for people

1493
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: going out is don't sleep in the shelter. Sleep on

1494
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: the sand around the fire. So much better, really, yeah,

1495
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: so much more comfortable than that bamboo. Oh yeah, Like

1496
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 2: I was on bamboo the whole first part of the game,

1497
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: and then the edge we didn't have a choice and

1498
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: it was like, what have I been doing? So when

1499
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: I went back, I was I was definitely around the fire.

1500
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 3: Advice that I would Yeah, I mean.

1501
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: I would say pay attention. They seat you at tribal.

1502
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: You don't sit wherever you want. There's an order, and

1503
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 2: I would say pay attention because normally they you know

1504
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 2: this group, this group and the swing votes in the middle,

1505
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: and it doesn't tell you and you normally you know that,

1506
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: Like it's pretty obvious, but it confirms what you're thinking,

1507
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: like if it's not set up like that, you should

1508
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 2: be reevaluating, like what Although I think they might be

1509
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 2: catching on to that too. I think they'll switch that

1510
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 2: up because I think they're trying to put short people

1511
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 2: in the back now because short people and women were

1512
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 2: at a disadvantage because stuff was happening. So I think

1513
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: survivors trying to mess with that. But if you go

1514
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 2: in Australia survivor, it could not be more clear, like

1515
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 2: it is totaltally spelled out at tribal.

1516
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's wild. There's a tip for you. Ausie's

1517
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: out there an Australian survivor. I just heard ethan In

1518
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: talking to Tyson on his podcast. He had a he

1519
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: had what I sort of like took as a tip,

1520
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: even though he wouldn't sort of present it as such.

1521
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: He's like, when you go out there, you know you're

1522
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: obviously you're playing sort of against yourself. You're playing against

1523
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: your your you know, tried members, the other castaways, you're

1524
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: playing against the elements, like the island itself in terms

1525
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 1: of just surviving, but you're also playing against Jeff Probes

1526
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: and production in a way. And I think that sort

1527
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: of like goes to what you're speaking of, like emplacements

1528
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And what he meant by it

1529
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: was was what was happening with Daniel just sort of

1530
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: like blabbing away and saying how he's like tight with

1531
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 1: Mike or they calmed them down, him and Chanel, and

1532
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: he's like, they're asking you quite like you can shoot

1533
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: yourself in the foot by answering questions that Probes is

1534
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: firing at you, and like the if you can give

1535
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: Probes an answer without giving up any real you know,

1536
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: tips of what's going on or like tells or stuff

1537
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: like that, then that's the way to do it. And

1538
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: I thought that was like, Yeah, they are making a

1539
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: show here, and they're they're gonna steer you where they

1540
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: want to try and steer you, but you gotta like

1541
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: give them just enough. But don't tip your hand, right.

1542
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 4: He's base cross examining them. Yeah, and he wants you

1543
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 4: to mess up. Is that fair to say.

1544
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: Rick, I don't know. I mean, I guess in a

1545
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: way they want you to mess up. But I don't

1546
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: think Jeff is ever trying to get you to mess up. Right,

1547
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 2: But like held, the first time you go to Tribal,

1548
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: he tells you, listen, you can't not answer a question.

1549
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to tell me the truth.

1550
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: You know you don't have to blow up your game,

1551
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 2: but you have to give me something. This is a

1552
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: TV show, like this is part of it. I understand

1553
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: that it's best for all of your game to not

1554
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: say anything. Can't do that, right. So there are people

1555
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: like me who just and Dmuel, I guess who's just

1556
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 2: blab I don't think I ever sunk my game, but

1557
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: I was pretty honest, like I used tribal to my

1558
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: advantage when I could, and probably also put a target

1559
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: on myself and doing stuff. And then there are people

1560
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: like Christian and Aubrey and David Wright who are so

1561
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 2: good at these allegories and these metal and they'll give

1562
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 2: you this beautiful thirty second answer that's just nothing, give

1563
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: him nothing, and that's enough for Jeff to move on.

1564
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: But you didn't give anything away. Where there are those

1565
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 2: other people like Gavin who's like the second he lands

1566
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: in tribal all he wants is to be out and

1567
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: for Jeff to not call on him, like please, And

1568
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: so when Jeff does, it's like the spotlight's on. It's

1569
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 2: not like his normal life, Like he's trying not to

1570
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 2: give away much, but he knows he has to answer,

1571
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: and you can mess up. Gavin never really messed up.

1572
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: Other people have, so yeah, it's tough.

1573
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 4: Is tribal council where you are most aware of the

1574
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 4: cameras on the show.

1575
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: Or this is a really interesting thing that I really

1576
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 2: appreciate about us survivor. I don't know about the other ones.

1577
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 2: When you go to tribal council, you are as much

1578
01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: in that area as the TV viewer. They hide every

1579
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: single camera person in the dark and shadows you do

1580
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: not see. I mean you can tell, you can see

1581
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 2: like the shine of a lens, but literally the only

1582
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: person you see is Jeff until he goes to telling

1583
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: the boats and then the two bodyguards come in to

1584
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: stand over you and make sure there's no talking room,

1585
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: and those are the bodyguards that ride with you in

1586
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 2: boats and everywhere else to make sure you're not talking

1587
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 2: off camera. We love you, Jaden Nanana. So yeah, it's

1588
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: pretty amazing that you go in there, and I mean

1589
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 2: you are in the tribal you've watched on TV all

1590
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: those years. There's not anything distracting you that the thought

1591
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: they put into it is amazing.

1592
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 4: So even you, as a guy who works in television,

1593
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 4: I mean, how quickly do you forget that the cameras

1594
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 4: are there? I mean, I forget I'm switching the cameras

1595
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 4: right now, and I'm not merely aware that people are

1596
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 4: watching this right now. So I imagine that even when

1597
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 4: there's like you're opening a hidden immunity community idol, You're

1598
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,799
Speaker 4: you're just like just they're just part of the scenery.

1599
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 4: It's just like a tree or shrubbery around you. Is

1600
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 4: that is that fair? Or are you are you more

1601
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 4: playing to stuff.

1602
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: That wasn't I never forgot that they were there, but

1603
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 2: you you developed such relationships with them that it's just

1604
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 2: very symbiotic. Like I remember, it's funny that you bring

1605
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: up the immunity idol because I remember the first the

1606
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: camera people on the first day, it's like, you don't

1607
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: want to be rude, so you're like, hey, you're talking,

1608
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 2: and they'll stop you and be like listen, no matter

1609
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: how nice you want to be or whatever, don't ever

1610
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 2: talk to us because you're just screwing us up, screwing

1611
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 2: up our job. Like, if you need to say something,

1612
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 2: wait till we have to change our tape. Because every

1613
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 2: once in a while, you're in the middle of like

1614
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: a really intense conversation, they're like stop, stop, like change

1615
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 2: the tape as fast as they can and get it

1616
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: in like go you know. But other times you're just

1617
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 2: chilling and they're like, oh, stop, stop, and they're changing

1618
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 2: the tape. And that's when you're like, so, how are

1619
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: you guys doing? And then when you go to your

1620
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 2: interviews on the beach, it's like, hey, I can finally

1621
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: talk with you, like, how's it going. You're from South Africa,

1622
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 2: that's amazing. So the first time I found my idol,

1623
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 2: I found it in that tree. I did that dance

1624
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, and I looked

1625
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 2: to the camera and go, hey, I'm gonna run to

1626
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 2: the other side of the island, and he grabs me

1627
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: and he goes, stop talking to me, just do it.

1628
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, all right, I go.

1629
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: So it became like that, and then other times because

1630
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: of my unique circumstances where I kept I would I

1631
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: already had the idol, but I wanted to make them paranoid,

1632
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: so I'd go disappear, like I'd be walking and I

1633
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 2: have a camera team following me and we run into

1634
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: a camera team that was resting, and they'd look like,

1635
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Why didn't you warn us, you

1636
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: know over the radio you were coming. And they'd be like, oh,

1637
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 2: I you know, Devin's just looking for an idol, and

1638
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 2: the camera guy, one of them at one point just

1639
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 2: hit me and goes, you asshole, like it was great.

1640
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: And sometimes they had to hide with me in the

1641
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: bushes because you know, if I go off without them,

1642
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 2: everyone knows I'm not doing it, so they have to

1643
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 2: be a part of it. But if I'm hiding, they

1644
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 2: have to hide. You know. People talk about that time

1645
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 2: when I was hiding behind the log on the beach

1646
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 2: and the camera pans up there, like how did they

1647
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 2: not see the camera guy? It's like the camera guys

1648
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: were disguising what they were doing as just like getting

1649
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: a print or get you know, they they're always doing things. Yeah,

1650
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 2: so you really have to be symbiotic and kind of

1651
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: you don't want to give it. I've heard a lot

1652
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 2: of people say you don't want to give away what

1653
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 2: you're doing to production, like you want to keep it

1654
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 2: a secret, like they're after you. I had the exact

1655
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 2: opposite experience, where it's like, if you want to put

1656
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 2: on a good show and good TV, like it's a partnership.

1657
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 2: If they're not there to see me do fun stuff,

1658
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: what's the point. So I was really open with them

1659
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: about everything and what about come to conspiracy theories?

1660
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: What about confessionals? Is it just you and a producer

1661
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: and like maybe one cameraman or woman or is there

1662
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: a lot more people around? I always like, what's that

1663
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: set up? Like is it just sort of one or

1664
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: two people or is there quite a bit of people?

1665
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: Because they're in you know, television production, the.

1666
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: Way they always set up their teams is one camera guy,

1667
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 2: one sound guy with a boom mic because we're only

1668
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:30,799
Speaker 2: ever miked up during challenges in tribal you're never mi cam.

1669
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 2: And then and then there's like one kind of gopher

1670
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 2: guy who's like carrying a tripod or a big sandbag

1671
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: and just like doing whatever they need, right, And it's

1672
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: really cool to see those guys because that during the

1673
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: season you'll see him like, oh my god, they're letting

1674
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: him train on camera and they're like, you're so proud

1675
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 2: of you him something good, you know, like it's just

1676
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: it's so great. There was one time Reim was sharpening

1677
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: a knife on a rock and it was making the

1678
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: worst sound ever, and I just got as close as

1679
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 2: I could the micro. I was like, you guys like it,

1680
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 2: so it's fun. I forget your question.

1681
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: But a confessional setup, I mean yeah, it's oh yeah,

1682
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: it sounds like a small team.

1683
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 2: So if there's three people and then one produce, there's

1684
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: like four different producers. They'll ask you questions, so one

1685
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: of them will be there cool, and they do block

1686
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 2: off that whole part of the island, like no one's

1687
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 2: allowed over there, so it's you know, a loud talker

1688
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: like me is safe, right, right, So they'll tell you

1689
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: that morning, like we're doing stuff down here, you're not alloud,

1690
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: And is it I.

1691
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: Mean, does everybody sort of try and get the same

1692
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 1: amount of time with a with a producer. I mean,

1693
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 1: I imagine like you are going to talk more than a

1694
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: Gavin is probably gonna talk in that situation. But then

1695
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 1: they I don't know, has that come off, Like, Wow,

1696
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 1: Devin's was there for two hours? I mean they're loving him.

1697
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: I guess you know.

1698
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 2: It's funny because I think Survivor knows exactly what they're doing,

1699
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 2: Like they try to make it as equitable as well,

1700
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 2: even if even if it doesn't end up that way

1701
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: in the edit. Yeah, out there, they are not trying

1702
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 2: to pull one person away more often than the right,

1703
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: right that, unless it's for something obvious, like I got

1704
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 2: pulled out more often because I'd win. You know, after

1705
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 2: you win, you're gonna get pulled off because you want.

1706
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 2: You know, after you played an idol, you're gonna get

1707
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: pulled off that night because you did something. You know,

1708
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: after coming back to Tribal, no one wants to do

1709
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 2: any interviews. Everyone wants to go to bed. But if

1710
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: you did something good at Tribal or had something bad

1711
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: happen to you, like you're doing an interview, I would

1712
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: even let them go first. Take Julie, I'll go, you

1713
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 2: can wake me up trying to gain good favor. Obviously

1714
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 2: that didn't pay off.

1715
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: That's amazing. All right, Well, we're gonna take one more

1716
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: break when we come up, come back, excuse me. We

1717
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: will wrap this up with Rick Devins look ahead sort

1718
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: of to next week's survivor maybe get some final thoughts

1719
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: from Rick on this season so far and make some predictions.

1720
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: So don't go anywhere. All right, back here in the

1721
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 1: Classic Factory, start wrapping up this No Buffs episode. Rick,

1722
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: you'll be happy to know that yeves here in the

1723
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: in the Live tribe, which is we call the people

1724
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: joining us live on YouTube, the Live Tribal, uh Youve says,

1725
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: I swing back and forth debating submitting an audition tape,

1726
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: but Devin's just made it sound like the most fun

1727
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: thing in the world, and he and he is going

1728
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: to do it. So there you go. And what's in

1729
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: your hand here?

1730
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 2: All right? So I took advantage of the break since

1731
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 2: I described my idols. This is my bag, Okay, I

1732
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: just got it out of a box in the garage.

1733
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:30,520
Speaker 2: There's my dog tie yeah from tribal, got my chopsticks

1734
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: nice from our Chinese food reward. Here's the first idle

1735
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 2: I made.

1736
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it looks like our coffee looks like a

1737
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:40,839
Speaker 1: weird coaster.

1738
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 2: You see you see the symbol out there? How bad.

1739
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 3: It is?

1740
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 2: Awful? So this so I improved a lot after that.

1741
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: This is the second one. Is I had it wrapped

1742
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 2: up in its face twinees not you know, that's not

1743
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 2: how I found my idol. But that's okay. Oh this

1744
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 2: isn't even the idol. This was my idol. This is

1745
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 2: stuff I stole from our kid idol?

1746
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:13,839
Speaker 1: What are you gonna make more later tonight with fishbagh?

1747
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Where's he really?

1748
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 2: Like? I got so much crap in here still?

1749
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 3: So they I mean, does it smell like? Does it

1750
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 3: smell good?

1751
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 2: It brings back memories? I had not cleaned this since

1752
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: I got back at all. Like it's full of insaying

1753
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: that's awesome. I don't know where my other idol is

1754
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 2: so false advertisings amazing.

1755
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I thought I had heard like, you're

1756
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: not like not allowed to take a lot of stuff

1757
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: back anymore, that the production keeps it, but maybe your

1758
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: own stuff.

1759
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 2: I guess, dude, we had heard that, and I would

1760
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 2: have taken a whole lot more stuff because they didn't

1761
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 2: check us at all like there were people out there

1762
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: making stuff with the boot order painted on it, and

1763
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: and like David and I are looking at each other

1764
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 2: like what a waste of time They're ever taken that

1765
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 2: they took it home. So yeah, obviously they were responsible

1766
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 2: with it, but yeah, I was really surprised they didn't

1767
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 2: care at all.

1768
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: Wow, there you go. Well next week's episode, this is

1769
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: what we know from the next time on Survivor, mari

1770
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: Anne and Omar. They're angry with Jonathan, or Marianne is

1771
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: at least angry with him.

1772
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 3: And I think.

1773
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: Omar calls him a slob because somebody says I listened

1774
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: to it like three times. I'm like, I think he

1775
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: called him a slob. Okay a couple Yeah, yeah, So

1776
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: we'll see if there's anything to that. Rocks Roy uh oh,

1777
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: back to being Dad Rocks Roy. You know, Romeo say,

1778
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 1: this guy he's just all over us here at the

1779
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: Eka Tribe and he's basically just appears to be yelling

1780
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: at someone to blow on the fire.

1781
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 3: Is not a solid tip. Wreck, don't be telling everybody

1782
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 3: whats to do the first two weeks you're out there.

1783
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 2: I think that that's a very solid tip. Like when

1784
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:04,440
Speaker 2: we merged. All we heard from Karma was like Aurora's

1785
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 2: been Boston us around. Now it turns out late in

1786
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 2: the game, Michael Aroor is the only one keeping us alive.

1787
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 2: So they got for Aurora. But yeah, no, I mean

1788
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 2: you aren't mak an impression.

1789
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: Start telling people, Yeah there's a tip, that's a good tip.

1790
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: Don't tell people to do. And then finally for for

1791
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 1: next week, Mike, I guess, confronts Daniel. He says, no Kumbaya.

1792
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: Just holy crapaa, I've never heard that.

1793
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 3: So I love Mike too.

1794
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: Uh So maybe, yeah, maybe this is sort of the

1795
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: what I was saying before. Maybe we get Mike and

1796
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: Daniel coming to blows. Do you have any predictions for

1797
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 1: let's say next week, Rick, which I know is very

1798
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: difficult to call. And then just like, who do you

1799
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: like in the season to to maybe win this whole

1800
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: thing or at least go very far. Who you cheering for?

1801
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: I guess at the very.

1802
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: Least, I was a big Jenny fan like you. I

1803
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: thought Jenny had a really good shot. I like, I

1804
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 2: like Drea, but she did she I don't think she's

1805
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 2: in a very good spot. She kind of played herself

1806
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 2: a little bit. I really like omer. I like a

1807
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:13,759
Speaker 2: lot of them. My prediction going forward is that last

1808
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 2: night's tribal with Daniel and Chanel blowing up, I think

1809
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: both of them will recover. Okay, I think this is

1810
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 2: gonna be a distant memory for both of them soon.

1811
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they won't find other trouble, but I

1812
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 2: think that they'll both recover from this.

1813
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 3: Okay.

1814
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: You don't know any of the people out there personally,

1815
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: do you?

1816
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 2: No? I have, and I once played Fortnite with Lydia.

1817
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 2: That was wild. Gavin was like, hey, we got someone

1818
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,520
Speaker 2: from forty one who's gonna play with us. I was like, okay,

1819
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 2: it was Lendia. She's wild, she's she's funny.

1820
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:47,879
Speaker 1: Did she's saying get over here pitches?

1821
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1822
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 2: That personality shined through in a big way on Fortnite. Great.

1823
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

1824
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,520
Speaker 1: I think I heard fishback say he knows uh yeah,

1825
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: yeah he does.

1826
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: We give him a lot of crap about it. Every

1827
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: time something happens to daniel're like, oh, what's up with

1828
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 2: your buddy and his week shoulders Stephen, because we're very jealous,

1829
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: you know, we want them all to ourselves.

1830
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: You guys really do seem to have like this amazing

1831
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 1: Survivor community, Like I don't want to put words in

1832
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: your mother and it feels that way as an outsider.

1833
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: Is that true?

1834
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: It really is, And it's for someone who's like a

1835
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 2: lifelong fan of the show. It's it's a dream come

1836
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 2: true to have like these friends that are in Survivor.

1837
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: And my intro into it was Wendell was visiting Atlanta,

1838
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: So this was before my season started to air, but

1839
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: I've been on the preview. I that he and Davey

1840
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 2: and Desi, and like, they couldn't have been nicer. Yeah,

1841
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: they were so great. It was such a great representative

1842
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 2: because it is like all these people that you think

1843
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: are villains, you know, people get it cheerful. You meet

1844
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: them and you're like, oh right, they got on Survivor

1845
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: because they're so charismatic. Yeah, and like entertaining. It's a

1846
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 2: really cool thing. And usually when we all get together,

1847
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 2: like in a huge group, it's for the charity Give

1848
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 2: Kids the World or Hearts of Reality, so it's it's

1849
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 2: it's coming together for a good call. So everyone's you know,

1850
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 2: in good spirits, being their best, happy to see each other. Yeah,

1851
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: you're you're you're read on the Community's one correct.

1852
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: As a as a fan of the show, who did

1853
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: you most geek out to meet for the first time?

1854
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: We were like, oh my god, so and so.

1855
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: Man, you know I still haven't met Boston Rock. Would

1856
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 2: I would have been pretty over the moon about that.

1857
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 2: He was my favorite. I met Cochrane at the finale

1858
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: and was going crazy about it, although I would have

1859
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: gone crazier if I hadn't been such good friends with David,

1860
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 2: who knew Conchrane, so it was less of a shock.

1861
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 2: Sandra was a big one. Yep, for sure. I haven't

1862
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: gotten to meet Serene, Like, I'm really excited to meet her.

1863
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: There's tons of people. Yeah yeah, Rob Cesternino, huge, that

1864
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 2: was awesome.

1865
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 4: Nice You're you're a season. You had four legends on

1866
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 4: the each there with you, Aubrey was it, Joe, Yep,

1867
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 4: David and Wentworth. That would have been like your season

1868
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 4: is like a super geek out for me because I

1869
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 4: love all four of those players. And then the twist

1870
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 4: with Edge, which we have debated in this classic factory.

1871
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 4: You know, are you playing the game while you're on

1872
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 4: extinction the edge of Extinction? I say yes, but you

1873
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 4: know I mean it was just watching your season is

1874
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 4: just amazing, and watching the twenty minutes of your highlights,

1875
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm geeking out. You're saying that you're geeking

1876
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,799
Speaker 4: out but when you're meeting these people, but I'm totally

1877
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 4: geeking out with you, man, And I don't know. I mean,

1878
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's happened, but are you the only person

1879
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 4: who after getting eliminated got a standing ovation from the

1880
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 4: jury as you're leaving. I mean, that was amazing. And

1881
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 4: then I watched you or Ponderosa and the reception that

1882
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 4: you got coming off the boat was incredible and like

1883
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 4: you would have won, like you were the the There's

1884
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 4: no way that you weren't gonna lose that season.

1885
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: So Chris knew that.

1886
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the first question I asked coming down

1887
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 2: the dog at pond Rosa, was was I gonna win?

1888
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 2: And they all said yeah, everyone was there except Lauren. Yeah. Yeah, No.

1889
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 2: It was amazing. And Victoria, who I love, like our

1890
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 2: relationship out there wasn't shown as much as it was,

1891
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 2: like we have very much the same sense of humor. Sure,

1892
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: she was the one who started the clap. I'm really grateful.

1893
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 2: I mean that took a lot of sting out of it.

1894
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 2: It really did. Like that was obviously a really rough night,

1895
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 2: but it felt really good. You know, even Chris, I'm

1896
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 2: so mad at him, you know, it's like I love

1897
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 2: the guy. Otherwise I would have sent him home a

1898
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,759
Speaker 2: day earlier by not giving him the idol back idiot Devin.

1899
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 2: But no, it was so cool. And then at Ponderosa,

1900
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 2: I mean, they couldn't have been nicer. And I got

1901
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 2: to hug my boy Joey, who was one of the

1902
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 2: Fujian servers that we had met free game.

1903
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,759
Speaker 3: So and and what's I mean? I have a feeling.

1904
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: I know what your answer is. But what's your take

1905
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: on the being on edge? You know, are you in

1906
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: your mind still playing?

1907
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 3: Is it? Is it actually an advantage? What do you think?

1908
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 2: I think all credit to Chris for doing everything he

1909
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 2: could to win. Like I'll tell you you hear a

1910
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 2: lot of stories from winners at war about people who

1911
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 2: went to edge and did not make people love them,

1912
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you spend time with

1913
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 2: people on edge and you end up not liking them.

1914
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 2: So the fact that everyone loved Chris says that he

1915
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 2: was doing a great job out there. The reason I

1916
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 2: gave Gavin my vote is because it's not the game

1917
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 2: on the edge, Like I was on the edge and

1918
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 2: I napped. I never napped in the game. It is

1919
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 2: really hard to stay in the game, whereas on the edge,

1920
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 2: like everyone who's ever gone there a state except two people,

1921
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 2: you know, three people. So credit to Chris, he played

1922
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 2: the rules. But but there's no doubt in my mind

1923
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 2: that you know, the people on the jury wanted to

1924
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 2: legitimize their experience a little bit. They had nothing to

1925
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 2: be upset with Chris about. The people that were in

1926
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 2: the game longest voted for Gavin, right, like all of

1927
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 2: them that were in the game longest voted for Gavin

1928
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 2: because we know how hard it was at the end,

1929
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 2: whereas you know, you know, Chris, no one's ever had

1930
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 2: an amazing ending like he had. And I love the guy,

1931
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 2: you know, he's such a good dude. Well, Gavin's my

1932
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 2: best friend.

1933
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 3: But well let's let's.

1934
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 1: Let's wrap this up with a prediction of my own. Actually,

1935
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: and it sort of has something to do with you, Rick,

1936
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:59,759
Speaker 1: because you are the master of finding hidden community idols.

1937
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: My prediction in forty one, as everybody that knows that

1938
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 1: watches nobus was the game within the game was going

1939
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: to be in the game, and I ended up being right.

1940
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: So I'm one for one so far. My prediction this

1941
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: year again, this is for you devons Is, and I

1942
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: think JD has a photo. I believe there's a hidden

1943
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: immunion IDOL in that ship wheel. In the wheel, yeah,

1944
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 1: right there in front of Jeff. And I say this

1945
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: because I know this is something that's happened before on

1946
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 1: Australia Survivor. We've seen Adam try and rip something off,

1947
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: you know, the podium there in sales Idol. I'm just

1948
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 1: throwing it out here right now that I think we'll

1949
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: get a clue at some point and there will be

1950
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 1: something with that weird little ship wheel sitting right front

1951
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 1: of Jeff.

1952
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 3: Why because it looks too movable, looks.

1953
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:48,879
Speaker 1: Strange to me. There, yeah, little pockets there, Yeah, yeah

1954
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 1: for sure. And you know you could have some fun

1955
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 1: with the clue. I feel like too, you know, whatever

1956
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: nautical theme you're gonna come up. So I'm trying to

1957
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 1: call my shot again here.

1958
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 3: Well, if you were completely right about the game within

1959
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 3: the games in the game, I would throw this out

1960
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 3: right away, but you can't. I think you're right, this

1961
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 3: is going to happen.

1962
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: Rick, tell the people that are obviously Survivor fans or

1963
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 1: No Bus fans, like how to like get in touch

1964
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 1: with you or follow you? What what's the best way

1965
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 1: to do that?

1966
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've been locked out of my Instagram for like

1967
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 2: over a year now, so if anyone can help me

1968
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,839
Speaker 2: with that, I'd appreciate it because Instagram's not helping. Okay,

1969
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,759
Speaker 2: but yeah, so follow me on Twitter underscore Devin's Okay,

1970
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 2: that's the best way.

1971
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: Okay, great, Well, thank you so much Rick for coming on.

1972
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. I know we kept you a

1973
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 1: little longer than we thought we would.

1974
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 4: But gott to play Fortnite.

1975
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: Well, he's got to play Fortnite with fishback. He's got

1976
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 1: a new jobs that he should get in rest for.

1977
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to make an idol because he's

1978
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 1: got his kid out there. But yeah, but we can't

1979
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 1: thank you enough for coming on. We really appreciate it

1980
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 1: so much.

1981
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 3: Fun.

1982
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was great, guys. Thanks for having me.

1983
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: All right, guys, we will see you next week for

1984
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 1: another edition of No Bus. Plan is to hopefully get

1985
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Wendel on. Your boy made this very death so hopefully

1986
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: we'll have him on as we're talking about episode four,

1987
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 1: But until then, t K, why don't you put out

1988
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 1: our sexy Saint Jeff candle. There it goes, and uh

1989
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,799
Speaker 1: huh the candle is spoken.

1990
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 3: We'll see you guys next week