1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,610 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. Hello and happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson. 3 00:00:14,830 --> 00:00:18,250 Speaker 1: And I'm Holly Frey. We talked about the Onion Futures 4 00:00:18,489 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Act and an attempt to corner the onion market this week. Yeah. 5 00:00:24,660 --> 00:00:28,030 Speaker 1: A story that I found to be very silly. Best flavor? I... 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,540 Speaker 1: Also found just the whole concept pretty silly. Just the 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: concept of futures. All of the vagaries of financial transactions 8 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,409 Speaker 1: that at this point today may or may not involve 9 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:50,170 Speaker 1: ever owning an actual piece of anything. An onion. An onion, yeah. 10 00:00:51,070 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: It's a little weird to me. Also... Unrelated to that, 11 00:00:54,580 --> 00:00:58,020 Speaker 1: when I was a child, I did not like onions. 12 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: The texture of them really, really bothered me. And I 13 00:01:03,460 --> 00:01:07,790 Speaker 1: would be very stubborn about not eating things that had 14 00:01:08,430 --> 00:01:12,190 Speaker 1: chunks of onion in them. Bring it home. And then 15 00:01:12,250 --> 00:01:16,370 Speaker 1: I became an adult. And I was at work, and 16 00:01:16,450 --> 00:01:20,030 Speaker 1: one of my coworkers was having coworkers over after work 17 00:01:20,910 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: over to his house. And he put a bunch of 18 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,420 Speaker 1: vegetables on the grill to grill, and that included big 19 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:31,100 Speaker 1: wedges of onion. And I could smell the big wedges 20 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: of onion and kind of went, that smells really good. 21 00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:37,780 Speaker 1: So good. What if I try that? And I was 22 00:01:37,860 --> 00:01:43,660 Speaker 1: at that point, I think I had crossed the 30-year-old threshold. Like, 23 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,670 Speaker 1: I was a fully grown adult, and the onion was 24 00:01:46,700 --> 00:01:50,650 Speaker 1: so delicious. And now... that opened up a whole world 25 00:01:51,110 --> 00:01:56,660 Speaker 1: of onion acceptability slash deliciousness for me. Onion magic. Bring 26 00:01:56,700 --> 00:02:01,830 Speaker 1: it on. Yep. I was just thinking about onions. My 27 00:02:01,890 --> 00:02:04,290 Speaker 1: only funny onion story as a kid, because I loved 28 00:02:04,330 --> 00:02:08,190 Speaker 1: them from youth. My mom really liked those little, you know, 29 00:02:08,270 --> 00:02:12,050 Speaker 1: baby onions that you could get in jars. And my brother, 30 00:02:12,090 --> 00:02:13,970 Speaker 1: who was a good bit older than me, was really 31 00:02:14,010 --> 00:02:16,750 Speaker 1: intent that he hated them. And then she lied to 32 00:02:16,810 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: him and told him they were turtle eggs. And then 33 00:02:18,690 --> 00:02:20,260 Speaker 1: he wanted to eat them and he ate them like 34 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,500 Speaker 1: nonstop after that. I don't know when he realized that 35 00:02:22,540 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: was a piece of vegetation and not a turtle egg 36 00:02:25,340 --> 00:02:27,700 Speaker 1: or why he thought a turtle egg would be delicious. 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,140 Speaker 1: But that's one of those family stories that I had 38 00:02:30,180 --> 00:02:33,019 Speaker 1: not thought about until just this moment. There were a 39 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:35,690 Speaker 1: number of things I had texture problems with as a 40 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,770 Speaker 1: child that I eventually learned to love. I was pretty 41 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:44,030 Speaker 1: good about most stuff until my older siblings were like, no, 42 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:46,130 Speaker 1: that's yucky. And then sometimes I would be like, oh, 43 00:02:46,150 --> 00:02:48,929 Speaker 1: that's yucky. Like, I loved liver when I was a 44 00:02:48,950 --> 00:02:51,630 Speaker 1: little kid. And then one of my siblings was like, 45 00:02:51,669 --> 00:02:54,350 Speaker 1: liver is gross. And I was like, I guess it's gross, 46 00:02:54,430 --> 00:02:57,660 Speaker 1: but like. I think I had that, broadly speaking, from 47 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: learning on television that children don't like vegetables. Yeah. But, like, 48 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: I would still eat them. I would eat the broccoli 49 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,620 Speaker 1: and the carrots. I would just complain about it. But onions, 50 00:03:08,060 --> 00:03:11,690 Speaker 1: big chunks of tomato, various things that I just... textures 51 00:03:11,930 --> 00:03:14,950 Speaker 1: were a problem for me. Yeah. I like vegetables more 52 00:03:15,010 --> 00:03:16,829 Speaker 1: as an adult than I did as a kid. But 53 00:03:16,870 --> 00:03:19,470 Speaker 1: I think part of that, my mom was a great 54 00:03:19,510 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: cook in many ways, but she didn't do a lot 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,100 Speaker 1: of interesting things with vegetables. It was very much like 56 00:03:25,940 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: often canned vegetables just kind of heated up. And now 57 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:33,380 Speaker 1: I'm like, she never once roasted a Brussels sprout. She 58 00:03:33,419 --> 00:03:39,740 Speaker 1: didn't know how delicious. Mm hmm. Yeah. And I literally, 59 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,180 Speaker 1: if you want to just throw a bunch of onions 60 00:03:43,470 --> 00:03:47,010 Speaker 1: on a baking sheet and roast it. Yeah. I'll just 61 00:03:47,070 --> 00:03:51,350 Speaker 1: eat that. Caramelized onions in a pan. There is nothing 62 00:03:51,390 --> 00:03:53,770 Speaker 1: to top that. Now I want that at my lunch. 63 00:03:54,250 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I love onions very much. They're very good. Talking about 64 00:03:58,030 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: onions so much, though, is hilarious to me because it's 65 00:04:00,180 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: just a weird word. Yeah, I agree. I felt like 66 00:04:03,780 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: the outline for this was very silly. The explanations are 67 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: very silly. The fact that we had to start with 68 00:04:10,460 --> 00:04:13,460 Speaker 1: what is to me not the most interesting explanation of 69 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,430 Speaker 1: what futures are, but you needed to kind of have 70 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,310 Speaker 1: a sense of what that was for the rest of 71 00:04:19,390 --> 00:04:21,830 Speaker 1: it to make sense. That's one of those things I 72 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:26,170 Speaker 1: still struggle with. Like, I understand it in theory, but 73 00:04:26,210 --> 00:04:30,310 Speaker 1: then when you hear about, like, big crimes of it, 74 00:04:30,450 --> 00:04:33,580 Speaker 1: like the big short, you know, covered the housing stuff, 75 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: I still find myself making quizzical puppy face and going, 76 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,750 Speaker 1: do I understand this correctly? Yeah. I'm never confident of 77 00:04:39,810 --> 00:04:43,430 Speaker 1: my understanding. I did think a lot about Grandpa Simpson, 78 00:04:43,630 --> 00:04:47,029 Speaker 1: but that's a different thing. As was the way at 79 00:04:47,050 --> 00:04:51,470 Speaker 1: the time. I also, there was a Bruce McCullough character 80 00:04:51,490 --> 00:04:53,870 Speaker 1: on Kids in the Hall that was a little kid 81 00:04:53,910 --> 00:04:57,550 Speaker 1: that would just like overshare a lot of odd things. 82 00:04:57,570 --> 00:05:01,550 Speaker 1: Did you ever watch Kids in the Hall? Yes. But 83 00:05:01,610 --> 00:05:03,310 Speaker 1: like off and on. It was the kid that would 84 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:06,730 Speaker 1: occasionally say, all's I eat is onions. And I don't 85 00:05:06,790 --> 00:05:10,250 Speaker 1: know why I always... There he was. I also want 86 00:05:10,290 --> 00:05:13,990 Speaker 1: a shirt that says Chicago Butter and Egg Board. Butter 87 00:05:14,029 --> 00:05:17,289 Speaker 1: and Egg Board? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we should start making 88 00:05:17,330 --> 00:05:19,390 Speaker 1: more shirts for our shirt store that exists that we 89 00:05:19,410 --> 00:05:22,110 Speaker 1: never talk about. Yeah, we never talk about the shirt store, 90 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:24,690 Speaker 1: and we haven't added anything new to the shirt store. 91 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: And the fact that we have said the shirt store 92 00:05:27,150 --> 00:05:30,620 Speaker 1: just now, and I'm not sure even the URL of 93 00:05:30,660 --> 00:05:32,980 Speaker 1: the shirt store does exist. Me either, but we're going 94 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,580 Speaker 1: to get right on that because I do have ideas. Pope's. Yeah. 95 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: So we wondered which popes he could have had an 96 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,460 Speaker 1: audience with. Right. We're not saying he did have an 97 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: audience with these popes. But these are the four that 98 00:05:47,660 --> 00:05:49,270 Speaker 1: were potential. And I'll tell you the three that I 99 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,549 Speaker 1: think it would have been. Some of this is just 100 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,330 Speaker 1: based on the fact that this crime played out in 1956. 101 00:05:56,770 --> 00:05:59,230 Speaker 1: He couldn't do anything for a minute. And then he 102 00:05:59,270 --> 00:06:02,890 Speaker 1: started opening his restaurant and generated so much money that 103 00:06:02,910 --> 00:06:05,070 Speaker 1: he gave to the Catholic Church. Yeah. Is that your 104 00:06:05,110 --> 00:06:09,390 Speaker 1: understanding of when those donations began? So my understanding of 105 00:06:09,450 --> 00:06:15,350 Speaker 1: the donations is that it didn't necessarily follow the establishment 106 00:06:15,390 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: of the restaurant, but did follow his incredibly lucrative onion 107 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: farming and trading. Okay, great. I think it would have 108 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: been too late for Pius XII, who was pope. I 109 00:06:29,500 --> 00:06:33,340 Speaker 1: almost said who ruled until, but that's very, we're thinking 110 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,900 Speaker 1: about different kinds of things. He was Pope until 1958, 111 00:06:37,900 --> 00:06:40,180 Speaker 1: so I think that's too early. I think the real 112 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:42,140 Speaker 1: candidates are St. John XXIII, who did 1958 to 1963. St. 113 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Paul VI, who ruled from 63 to 78. You said 114 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:53,990 Speaker 1: ruled again. I did. I did. Great. Who was the 115 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,830 Speaker 1: pope from those years? Sorry, my brain can't get over it. Well, 116 00:06:57,850 --> 00:07:00,710 Speaker 1: we are talking about royalty later in this recording session. 117 00:07:00,750 --> 00:07:03,330 Speaker 1: We are, and that is exactly what's on my mind. 118 00:07:03,610 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: Because then there's John Paul I was not pope for 119 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: very long, just like a little over a month. Oh, really? 120 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:11,540 Speaker 1: In 1978, so I don't think that was a likely one. 121 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: He died 33 days after he became pope. And so 122 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,300 Speaker 1: then I think we're at John Paul II, who, of course... 123 00:07:18,630 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: was Pope for a very long time, 26 years, like 124 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,820 Speaker 1: 26 and a half years, something like that, starting in 1978. 125 00:07:24,820 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: So I think that would have had to have been 126 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: the one. It has to be John Paul II, Paul VI, 127 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,140 Speaker 1: or John XXIII. Those have to be the ones. If he, 128 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:43,110 Speaker 1: in fact, had... Yeah. Which maybe he did. Maybe. Like, 129 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,430 Speaker 1: maybe all of those things really happened. It just seems 130 00:07:46,870 --> 00:07:52,630 Speaker 1: very vague. Yeah. And I had done a fair amount 131 00:07:52,770 --> 00:07:56,270 Speaker 1: of the research on the episode, including pulling up all 132 00:07:56,290 --> 00:07:59,410 Speaker 1: of these documents related to the hearing that they had 133 00:07:59,450 --> 00:08:02,730 Speaker 1: to go through and all of that kind of thing. Before... 134 00:08:04,030 --> 00:08:07,130 Speaker 1: I can't remember if I read an article in kind 135 00:08:07,170 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: of a generalist, casual publication... or if I listened to 136 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: a podcast on it, like, there was some, something. It 137 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,540 Speaker 1: might have even been that NPR story from 2015. But 138 00:08:21,740 --> 00:08:25,020 Speaker 1: suddenly he was portrayed as a character in a way 139 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,940 Speaker 1: that he had not been in the other research. And 140 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: I was like, what is this? Like, where did this 141 00:08:31,770 --> 00:08:34,829 Speaker 1: come from? And then I realized the source for this 142 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:40,530 Speaker 1: seemed to be one book. And... that it really, like, 143 00:08:40,630 --> 00:08:44,010 Speaker 1: it felt like everybody was repeating the same basic story 144 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:47,709 Speaker 1: points from this one book over and over. And I 145 00:08:47,790 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: am not in any way suggesting that, like, there's anything 146 00:08:51,220 --> 00:08:53,260 Speaker 1: wrong with this book. The only parts of it that 147 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: I have read are the part that is about this 148 00:08:56,770 --> 00:08:59,370 Speaker 1: And when you are writing something that is not for 149 00:08:59,410 --> 00:09:02,949 Speaker 1: an academic audience, it is absolutely normal to interview a 150 00:09:02,950 --> 00:09:06,550 Speaker 1: bunch of people, write your chapter, and not have footnotes 151 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:09,819 Speaker 1: for every single piece of information. Like, it's just not 152 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: that kind of book. But that also meant I wasn't 153 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,500 Speaker 1: able to verify any detail in it, because I don't 154 00:09:16,620 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: know who said those particular things. I do know that, 155 00:09:21,059 --> 00:09:25,500 Speaker 1: you know, pouring through newspaper archives, I did not find... 156 00:09:26,210 --> 00:09:36,370 Speaker 1: substantiation for things that seem like they would have been newsworthy. Right. So, yeah. Yeah. Onions. Yes. 157 00:09:36,750 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: I did think a lot about just, you know, millions 158 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: of pounds of onions going bad. So many that I 159 00:09:43,059 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: can imagine how slimy it was. Yeah. Because when onions 160 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,020 Speaker 1: start to decay, they get that slimy texture. Yeah. Yeah, 161 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:58,390 Speaker 1: and then they become desiccated and fabulous. Not in any 162 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: real fabulosity, but just i don't know yeah there's something 163 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,540 Speaker 1: about a very dried out vegetable that i'd sort of 164 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: love it cracks me up a little i don't know 165 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: yeah probably me being a weirdo um we discovered a 166 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:15,300 Speaker 1: very elderly pepper that had gone unused in our refrigerator 167 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:18,850 Speaker 1: recently and it was like the cryptkeeper of vegetables. And 168 00:10:18,890 --> 00:10:21,210 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh yeah. I almost feel bad throwing 169 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:26,810 Speaker 1: it in our dehydrator to become compost, but there it goes. Yeah. 170 00:10:27,370 --> 00:10:33,250 Speaker 1: I tried to shift from having like bottled lemon and 171 00:10:33,309 --> 00:10:36,689 Speaker 1: lime juice in the fridge to keeping lemons and limes 172 00:10:36,809 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: on hand and just squeezing the juice out of them 173 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:43,820 Speaker 1: as needed. And I have not landed on the right 174 00:10:43,900 --> 00:10:46,540 Speaker 1: number of, To have on hand. I will never land 175 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,380 Speaker 1: on the right number. Yeah, but I have discovered desiccated 176 00:10:51,460 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: lime in the back of the fridge a couple of times. Well, 177 00:10:54,900 --> 00:10:57,300 Speaker 1: we always keep them on hand because I make a 178 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,420 Speaker 1: lot of cocktails. And the thing is, of course, if 179 00:11:01,460 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: we have a party, I buy too many, but that's fine. 180 00:11:04,059 --> 00:11:06,380 Speaker 1: But then there's that thing where I always keep a 181 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: little too many on hand because you never know when 182 00:11:09,140 --> 00:11:13,780 Speaker 1: somebody might want to come over for a cocktail somewhat spontaneously, 183 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,980 Speaker 1: and I don't have time to run to the store 184 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,739 Speaker 1: all the time. And then I'm like, uh-oh, so I 185 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,829 Speaker 1: always have too many lemons and limes. I keep just 186 00:11:21,870 --> 00:11:25,910 Speaker 1: throwing the squeezed things out the back door off of 187 00:11:26,010 --> 00:11:29,370 Speaker 1: the cantina, and I'm like, one day a glorious lemon 188 00:11:29,429 --> 00:11:32,090 Speaker 1: grove will grow here. It won't. Conditions aren't right. But 189 00:11:32,130 --> 00:11:38,819 Speaker 1: in my head, that's my legacy. Yeah. That would be lovely. Lemons. 190 00:11:40,010 --> 00:11:43,620 Speaker 1: I always think about when we were in Italy, you 191 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: were not on this optional day trip that we took 192 00:11:47,460 --> 00:11:51,860 Speaker 1: in Italy to go to Pompeii. But on the way back, 193 00:11:52,780 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 1: we were supposed to stop and have a limoncello tasting. 194 00:11:56,500 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: And I was so exhausted that all I wanted to 195 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,260 Speaker 1: do was go back to the train station and return 196 00:12:04,330 --> 00:12:06,969 Speaker 1: to Rome and go to bed. That was all I 197 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:09,900 Speaker 1: wanted in the whole world. And we got off the bus, 198 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,140 Speaker 1: and I was kind of trudging toward where we were 199 00:12:12,179 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: going to be. We were taken into a building that 200 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,209 Speaker 1: looked kind of like a somewhat old-timey ice cream parlor. 201 00:12:19,890 --> 00:12:22,710 Speaker 1: But then we continued walking out the back door of 202 00:12:22,830 --> 00:12:27,770 Speaker 1: the ice cream parlor. No, no. We walked into a 203 00:12:28,050 --> 00:12:34,670 Speaker 1: beautiful lemon grove. Hmm. with fully fruiting lemons everywhere, also 204 00:12:34,850 --> 00:12:38,210 Speaker 1: other citrus fruits. And we were ushered to a picnic 205 00:12:38,250 --> 00:12:41,589 Speaker 1: table in this lemon grove to have our limoncello tasting. 206 00:12:42,370 --> 00:12:44,610 Speaker 1: At the end of the limoncello tasting, they brought us 207 00:12:44,870 --> 00:12:49,819 Speaker 1: lemon gelato, and the lemon gelato revived me. And I 208 00:12:49,860 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: was like, never mind everything I said. It was absolutely 209 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,020 Speaker 1: worth it to come to this lemon grove and have 210 00:12:56,059 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: limoncello and lemon gelato. Hopefully no one will try to 211 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:05,130 Speaker 1: corner the market on lemons drive up the price for everyone, 212 00:13:05,450 --> 00:13:19,780 Speaker 1: but crash it instead. Yum, limoncello. We talked about Dr. 213 00:13:19,820 --> 00:13:22,939 Speaker 1: Bernard von Gooden this week. We did. I don't know 214 00:13:22,980 --> 00:13:25,300 Speaker 1: if you were as instantly enthralled by the idea of 215 00:13:25,340 --> 00:13:28,790 Speaker 1: him as I was when we were in Bavaria. Yeah. 216 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,740 Speaker 1: And specifically at Neuschwanstein, but boy, did I find him interesting. 217 00:13:34,220 --> 00:13:37,500 Speaker 1: I don't think I really grabbed any details about him 218 00:13:38,420 --> 00:13:40,949 Speaker 1: while we were there. Oh. I will say some of 219 00:13:41,050 --> 00:13:43,170 Speaker 1: it may have, I may have gotten some of it 220 00:13:43,230 --> 00:13:46,250 Speaker 1: when there is a beautiful, but not for Holly, a 221 00:13:47,570 --> 00:13:52,100 Speaker 1: bridge that is just north of the entry to the castle. Yeah. 222 00:13:52,740 --> 00:13:56,300 Speaker 1: And I are... Amazing tour guide Peter said as we 223 00:13:56,340 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: got there, hey, everybody has time to go walk across 224 00:13:59,220 --> 00:14:01,940 Speaker 1: this bridge. You'll get the most amazing pictures. Don't do 225 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,020 Speaker 1: it if you have a fear of heights. And I said, 226 00:14:05,179 --> 00:14:07,819 Speaker 1: I'm going to sit down. I'm not going up there. 227 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,660 Speaker 1: I went to the bridge. Yeah, so I was not 228 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,910 Speaker 1: there for the conversation if that's when that happened because 229 00:14:12,970 --> 00:14:15,110 Speaker 1: I went to the bridge. There was some. He mentioned 230 00:14:15,130 --> 00:14:17,350 Speaker 1: it again later, I know. But I know we talked 231 00:14:17,370 --> 00:14:19,170 Speaker 1: about it briefly then and then we talked about other things. 232 00:14:19,250 --> 00:14:22,190 Speaker 1: But yeah, I was not. I made the correct choice. 233 00:14:22,430 --> 00:14:25,130 Speaker 1: Everyone went to the bridge but me. And after watching 234 00:14:25,150 --> 00:14:28,060 Speaker 1: people's video, I was like, thank goodness I didn't go there. 235 00:14:28,700 --> 00:14:31,380 Speaker 1: When I was a lot younger, I struggled with heights 236 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,260 Speaker 1: a lot. And then when I went to college in 237 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:37,820 Speaker 1: the mountains, I was like, well, I'm going to have 238 00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:41,239 Speaker 1: to deal with this situation. And so I'm much better 239 00:14:41,260 --> 00:14:46,130 Speaker 1: with heights now. But that bridge, when you step onto it, 240 00:14:47,090 --> 00:14:50,530 Speaker 1: the planks have an amount of give that I did 241 00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:55,250 Speaker 1: not find acceptable. Yeah, nobody liked it. So I did 242 00:14:55,290 --> 00:14:57,790 Speaker 1: not go out that far onto the bridge. I definitely 243 00:14:57,830 --> 00:14:59,550 Speaker 1: didn't go all the way across it. I went sort 244 00:14:59,570 --> 00:15:02,530 Speaker 1: of far enough to get some pictures and then came back. Oh, 245 00:15:02,650 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: for some reason, I thought you had to keep going 246 00:15:04,740 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: if you went. No, you can just go back the 247 00:15:06,980 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: other way. But even then, like it. Yeah. Scary. Yeah. Scary. 248 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,050 Speaker 1: Not for me. One of the things that was interesting 249 00:15:18,970 --> 00:15:23,660 Speaker 1: about that trip to me, because as you know, I'm a, 250 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: professional eavesdropper. But and I wasn't even like butting in 251 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,330 Speaker 1: on anybody's private conversations. But like when you're just outside 252 00:15:31,370 --> 00:15:35,790 Speaker 1: of Neuschwanstein, there's a little uphill walkway that leads to 253 00:15:35,830 --> 00:15:39,090 Speaker 1: the front door, for lack of a better phrase. That, like, 254 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:41,070 Speaker 1: a lot of people would stop at and take pictures, 255 00:15:41,130 --> 00:15:43,130 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of groups there with tour guides, 256 00:15:43,450 --> 00:15:45,770 Speaker 1: and a lot of small groups that have private tour guides. 257 00:15:46,250 --> 00:15:48,510 Speaker 1: And I was kind of eavesdropping on all of those 258 00:15:48,590 --> 00:15:51,380 Speaker 1: as we went up. And I... At one point, too, 259 00:15:51,390 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: we were waiting for everybody to be together to go in. 260 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: And what was fascinating was the amount of variety in 261 00:15:56,900 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: the assessment of Ludwig II's mental state that those different 262 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:05,700 Speaker 1: tour guides had. Oh! Like, I heard one go... he 263 00:16:05,740 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: was not crazy. He was just a little eccentric and 264 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: nobody could handle it. And others go, he was clearly 265 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,900 Speaker 1: very crazy and every option in between, which shows you 266 00:16:13,980 --> 00:16:18,900 Speaker 1: just how, you know, completely unsettled this particular matter is 267 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,470 Speaker 1: in the minds of locals and people who even teach 268 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:25,790 Speaker 1: this history to others. So I thought that was really interesting. 269 00:16:26,610 --> 00:16:29,990 Speaker 1: I will say that walking through Neuschwanstein, which has been 270 00:16:30,030 --> 00:16:31,690 Speaker 1: something I've wanted to do for a very long time, 271 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,220 Speaker 1: My takeaway was not that this is the work of 272 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: somebody who is not in their right mind. Because it 273 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,380 Speaker 1: was like, this is how I decorate, just like with 274 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,730 Speaker 1: a lot more money. Yeah. If you don't recognize that name, 275 00:16:48,130 --> 00:16:53,430 Speaker 1: this is the fairy tale castle that the interior rooms 276 00:16:53,790 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: are decorated like Wagner opera sets. Yes. I would say 277 00:16:58,820 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: most Americans pronounce it Neuschwanstein. We discovered that was incorrect. Yeah. 278 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,180 Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of them are like, I want 279 00:17:07,220 --> 00:17:10,389 Speaker 1: to recreate my favorite scene from a Wagner opera. I 280 00:17:10,430 --> 00:17:14,650 Speaker 1: want to create a cool and amazing, you know, little 281 00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:17,850 Speaker 1: grotto that mimics something in a Wagner opera or from 282 00:17:17,890 --> 00:17:21,129 Speaker 1: a fairy tale or from, and like, I mean, I 283 00:17:21,170 --> 00:17:24,629 Speaker 1: went to, you know, the lengths to add onto my 284 00:17:24,670 --> 00:17:26,429 Speaker 1: house so I could have my own Star Wars canteen. 285 00:17:26,490 --> 00:17:29,290 Speaker 1: Instead of me, this seems perfectly rational. Like do what 286 00:17:29,330 --> 00:17:31,869 Speaker 1: you love, live in your fandom. He was just a 287 00:17:31,930 --> 00:17:35,650 Speaker 1: super fan. So it didn't strike me as the work 288 00:17:35,690 --> 00:17:38,940 Speaker 1: of someone who must clearly be not in their right mind. 289 00:17:38,980 --> 00:17:42,660 Speaker 1: I'm like, they just have flair. I understand that's not 290 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: the only criteria that people use to decide that. And obviously, 291 00:17:46,940 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: as we talked about in the episode, not everybody is 292 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: in agreement. And a lot of people that knew him 293 00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:55,389 Speaker 1: were like, no, he's just he's just very fanciful. I 294 00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:59,869 Speaker 1: don't know where you land on the assassination conspiracy theory 295 00:17:59,930 --> 00:18:03,429 Speaker 1: or not. But I know where I land. Where did 296 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:07,490 Speaker 1: you land? He was assassinated. Yeah. Here's one of the 297 00:18:07,550 --> 00:18:12,610 Speaker 1: things that really struck me as odd. Now, there are 298 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:15,750 Speaker 1: I mean, I as I was researching this, I was 299 00:18:15,810 --> 00:18:18,709 Speaker 1: reading various things, some of which make it sound. completely 300 00:18:18,770 --> 00:18:22,369 Speaker 1: rational that, yes, of course, he drowned. That makes all 301 00:18:22,410 --> 00:18:24,570 Speaker 1: the sense on Earth. And then there are other things 302 00:18:24,590 --> 00:18:27,410 Speaker 1: where I'm like, this is weird. One of the things 303 00:18:27,450 --> 00:18:29,890 Speaker 1: that struck me as very odd, and maybe I just 304 00:18:29,950 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: don't understand, was the comment that was in the U.S. paper, 305 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,060 Speaker 1: but written from a correspondent in Munich, that you could 306 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:45,730 Speaker 1: see footprints in the soil under the water. And I'm like, Yeah. 307 00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:49,030 Speaker 1: I need more information about that. Yeah. Because that seems 308 00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:52,910 Speaker 1: like a weird detail to include that is hard to verify. 309 00:18:52,930 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: I also have footprint questions. I'm like, duh. I mean, 310 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: this is a lake. It's not an ocean. But lakes 311 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,540 Speaker 1: have currents too. And water is moving and things don't 312 00:19:05,780 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: stay intact. Yeah. And also, how did you see those? 313 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,580 Speaker 1: Did you have divers that could see that? And I 314 00:19:12,619 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: have questions about how easy to distinguish difference in their 315 00:19:18,180 --> 00:19:21,950 Speaker 1: footprints would have been. Like, how different were their shoes? 316 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:24,510 Speaker 1: How different were the sizes of their feet? Like, I 317 00:19:24,550 --> 00:19:27,409 Speaker 1: don't really know that. That might be easy-ish because I 318 00:19:27,490 --> 00:19:32,390 Speaker 1: know Ludwig was much taller than Gudden. Okay. So presumably 319 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:34,899 Speaker 1: he probably had bigger feet. Like, he's always described as 320 00:19:34,940 --> 00:19:38,020 Speaker 1: being a much bigger man than Gudden. And so that's 321 00:19:38,140 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: one of the reasons people say, like, of course he 322 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: could have overpowered him really quickly if Gudden tried to 323 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:50,409 Speaker 1: interact with him. Something that happens tragically often is... a 324 00:19:50,570 --> 00:19:55,070 Speaker 1: person in the water will start to struggle and someone 325 00:19:55,150 --> 00:19:58,820 Speaker 1: who does not know how to rescue a drowning person 326 00:19:58,970 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: will try to rescue them and the result is both 327 00:20:01,820 --> 00:20:06,740 Speaker 1: people drowning. Yes, 100%. So it's like that idea of 328 00:20:07,609 --> 00:20:09,869 Speaker 1: Ludwig going into the water to try to end his 329 00:20:09,930 --> 00:20:14,129 Speaker 1: own life and his doctor attempting to rescue him and 330 00:20:14,190 --> 00:20:17,930 Speaker 1: both of them drowning on its surface seems like a 331 00:20:18,010 --> 00:20:25,490 Speaker 1: plausible scenario. But also many other questions raised by other 332 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:42,870 Speaker 1: details shared in the accounts of it. Yeah. I was 333 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:46,690 Speaker 1: fascinated to discover that there is, it is called a 334 00:20:46,730 --> 00:20:51,649 Speaker 1: secret society. People know it exists. I think whether or 335 00:20:51,690 --> 00:20:53,630 Speaker 1: not you are a member is a secret, but they 336 00:20:53,710 --> 00:20:57,470 Speaker 1: do things publicly, but they are hooded always. There is 337 00:20:57,530 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: a secret society that truly believes in the assassination thing 338 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,340 Speaker 1: and is always trying to find ways to prove it. 339 00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:05,570 Speaker 1: And one of the things that they do, we mentioned 340 00:21:05,650 --> 00:21:08,710 Speaker 1: at the end of the episode that on the date 341 00:21:08,850 --> 00:21:13,650 Speaker 1: of Ludwig's death, there are often memorials to him. There 342 00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: are ceremonies about him. He's really become very revered to 343 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people historically. But one of the things 344 00:21:22,260 --> 00:21:25,740 Speaker 1: that they do is they take a boat out to the, 345 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: it's still very shallow, but there are a bunch of 346 00:21:28,060 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: people and they go out to the spot where the 347 00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:33,340 Speaker 1: bodies were buried. found or whether he was believed to 348 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: have died based on, I guess, this footprint information. And 349 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:40,250 Speaker 1: there is somebody actually put a cross there some years ago, 350 00:21:40,570 --> 00:21:42,369 Speaker 1: but it's just fascinating to me that there's like a 351 00:21:42,410 --> 00:21:45,630 Speaker 1: whole ritual involved in going out there and like honoring 352 00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:48,810 Speaker 1: his memory every year. And yeah, there are people very 353 00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:52,310 Speaker 1: invested is my point in all of this in what 354 00:21:52,369 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: the truth may have actually been. And I, you know, 355 00:21:55,380 --> 00:21:58,580 Speaker 1: I'm so normally not into conspiracy theories at all, but 356 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,330 Speaker 1: this one just seems so shady and dicey that I'm like, Yeah, 357 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:07,030 Speaker 1: there are layers, layers of shady dices. It makes me 358 00:22:07,050 --> 00:22:09,730 Speaker 1: want to go back again. What I don't want to 359 00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:13,250 Speaker 1: do is walk down the hill from the castle ever again. Oh, 360 00:22:13,790 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: my goodness gracious me. That was rough. That was rough. Yeah. 361 00:22:18,580 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: You can take a little... There's a bus. Shuttle bus 362 00:22:22,380 --> 00:22:24,660 Speaker 1: that'll take you up the hill. You have to, like, 363 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,010 Speaker 1: disembark from any big buses at this parking lot. There's 364 00:22:28,030 --> 00:22:29,570 Speaker 1: a shuttle bus that will take you up to the hill. 365 00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:31,050 Speaker 1: You have to wait a lot because it only holds 366 00:22:31,070 --> 00:22:33,270 Speaker 1: so many people and a lot of people visit the 367 00:22:33,330 --> 00:22:36,090 Speaker 1: site because it's, again, making tons of money. Or you 368 00:22:36,109 --> 00:22:38,410 Speaker 1: can walk it, but they warned us, like, it's uphill. 369 00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:41,449 Speaker 1: It's like a 20, 25-minute walk. Most people did not 370 00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:43,630 Speaker 1: do it, though some in our group did. My hat's 371 00:22:43,670 --> 00:22:45,419 Speaker 1: off to all of you who did it. You can 372 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: also take a little horse-drawn carriage up there. But it 373 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: was so cavalierly, like, oh, you can just walk down. 374 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: And we're like, yeah, we can just walk down. That 375 00:22:54,980 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: walk hurt so bad. It hurt my feet a lot. 376 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: Hurt my feet, hurt my back. Brian's hips did not 377 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:06,060 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Yeah. The cant of the angle was way 378 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: steeper than I thought it would be. It's very steep 379 00:23:09,030 --> 00:23:13,629 Speaker 1: and it's on pavement the whole way. So, like, the 380 00:23:13,670 --> 00:23:19,930 Speaker 1: continual strike of my foot onto the pavement on, like, 381 00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:25,490 Speaker 1: my forefoot over and over. As we got toward the bottom, 382 00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:29,510 Speaker 1: I really thought I might have injured... Yeah. Myself. I 383 00:23:29,550 --> 00:23:33,370 Speaker 1: was not injured, fortunately. But I was, if I had 384 00:23:33,410 --> 00:23:36,310 Speaker 1: it to do all over again, we would have taken 385 00:23:36,369 --> 00:23:41,270 Speaker 1: the bus down. Yeah. Same, I think. I think. Gosh, 386 00:23:41,290 --> 00:23:46,290 Speaker 1: what a beautiful, beautiful place, though. The views just literally 387 00:23:46,330 --> 00:23:49,730 Speaker 1: take your breath away. Like, the gasping that I did 388 00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:56,429 Speaker 1: throughout that day. Spectacular. What a lovely place. And I honestly, man, 389 00:23:56,650 --> 00:24:01,429 Speaker 1: I love seeing all of that. Gorgeous design, both interior 390 00:24:01,550 --> 00:24:06,540 Speaker 1: and exterior of that castle. Yeah. So spectacularly beautiful. I 391 00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:10,340 Speaker 1: was bummed. I understand. But I was bummed because you 392 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,220 Speaker 1: can't take pictures inside. Right. But I, of course, bought 393 00:24:14,260 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: the books. So did Patrick. Of course I'm gonna. Yeah. 394 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,619 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just there's like that mosaic in the 395 00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:21,830 Speaker 1: floor that I was obsessed with in that one room 396 00:24:21,850 --> 00:24:24,950 Speaker 1: that has like animals all around it. Obsessed, obsessed, obsessed. 397 00:24:25,010 --> 00:24:28,859 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. And again, you know. If I had 398 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: all that money, I've often said I'm going to buy 399 00:24:31,859 --> 00:24:34,660 Speaker 1: every house in our neighborhood, put a different Star Wars 400 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: bar in each one. So like, I'm never going to 401 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,389 Speaker 1: judge his Wagner love because life should be lived with joy. 402 00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:47,050 Speaker 1: And Ludwig's writing about that castle was how excited he 403 00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:49,030 Speaker 1: was to build it and live in it. He did 404 00:24:49,070 --> 00:24:51,550 Speaker 1: not get to live there very long, obviously. It was 405 00:24:51,630 --> 00:24:54,530 Speaker 1: not even completed when he died and those rooms are 406 00:24:54,570 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: left uncompleted today. to this day as part of like 407 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,580 Speaker 1: maintaining it. But to me, it just reads as like, listen, 408 00:25:02,780 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm a fan boy. And I will say we didn't 409 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,780 Speaker 1: talk about it in the episode, but the other thing 410 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,340 Speaker 1: that is very much in the conspiracy theory side of 411 00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:17,379 Speaker 1: the scales for me is that Ludwig was not, not 412 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:22,660 Speaker 1: doing his work. Right. As the Monarch. Right. He didn't 413 00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:25,250 Speaker 1: like to talk to people, but he and like the 414 00:25:25,290 --> 00:25:27,929 Speaker 1: people that worked immediately with him had worked out ways 415 00:25:28,010 --> 00:25:30,429 Speaker 1: that like he was still getting things done. He was 416 00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:33,429 Speaker 1: getting stuff telegraphed to him. He was making decisions. He 417 00:25:33,450 --> 00:25:37,940 Speaker 1: was fulfilling all of his duties. They weren't always all popular, 418 00:25:38,020 --> 00:25:41,020 Speaker 1: but I don't know any leader in such a position 419 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:44,750 Speaker 1: where that's the case. And he, like, he wasn't shirking 420 00:25:44,790 --> 00:25:48,169 Speaker 1: his responsibility at all. So, like, the idea that he 421 00:25:48,250 --> 00:25:51,100 Speaker 1: couldn't be trusted to do these things really does start 422 00:25:51,140 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: to smack of, like, well, maybe not the way you want. 423 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: And maybe you're just trying to, you know, parlay this 424 00:25:58,180 --> 00:26:03,050 Speaker 1: convenient eccentricity into seizing power for yourself. That's the other 425 00:26:03,090 --> 00:26:09,030 Speaker 1: thing that I'm like, ugh. Anyway. Ludwig II, I'm sorry 426 00:26:09,070 --> 00:26:11,580 Speaker 1: about how all of this went down. Yeah. There was 427 00:26:11,619 --> 00:26:13,470 Speaker 1: also a thing I put in the episode and then 428 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:17,700 Speaker 1: cut for time about Empress Sissy. She sent him this 429 00:26:17,780 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: bouquet of flowers and it was placed on his chest 430 00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: in his coffin. And then she wrote him a poem 431 00:26:24,020 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: about the placement of those and like how she got 432 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: to privately say goodbye to him before it was all closed. 433 00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: And it's very sweet and quite moving. But I was like, 434 00:26:34,940 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: I love all of this, but we don't have time. Yeah. 435 00:26:39,290 --> 00:26:42,189 Speaker 1: It's a different story about her at that point and 436 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:47,190 Speaker 1: not about Gooden, certainly. So, yeah, Dr. Gooden, I don't 437 00:26:47,230 --> 00:26:50,530 Speaker 1: know if you sold your soul or not. I also 438 00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:54,870 Speaker 1: don't understand your eyeball science, but that's okay. No, me neither. 439 00:26:58,060 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: If this is your weekend coming up, I hope that 440 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: no one accuses you of being unfit to live your life. 441 00:27:06,030 --> 00:27:11,030 Speaker 1: because maybe you're eccentric and wonderful. And I say, fly 442 00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:16,450 Speaker 1: your flag, baby. We need more, more joy, more creativity, 443 00:27:16,650 --> 00:27:20,450 Speaker 1: more everything that brings light to the world all the time. 444 00:27:20,490 --> 00:27:22,620 Speaker 1: And I support you in whatever does that for you. 445 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: I also hope if you have to work, if this 446 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: isn't like a weekend where you get time to maybe 447 00:27:27,660 --> 00:27:30,660 Speaker 1: fly your flag, that you can still embrace the world 448 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,340 Speaker 1: in ways that give you joy, that give you meaning, 449 00:27:33,420 --> 00:27:36,379 Speaker 1: that make you feel fulfilled. and that everybody is super 450 00:27:36,420 --> 00:27:38,100 Speaker 1: kind to one another, and that we all get enough 451 00:27:38,180 --> 00:27:41,219 Speaker 1: rest and enough hydration. I'm really bad at that. I'm 452 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: always working on it. 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